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video Sorry Similar So even the light is turned on has respect This is the Lake County Board of County Commissioners regular meeting on April 1st 2025 in board chambers administrative building to various Florida
You can't tell what time I Is that The only thing Oh shoot Okay Good morning everyone Welcome to our April 1st 2025 board of county commissioners meeting We're going to get started with our meeting Um we're
missing Commissioner Parks this morning He's under the weather but he's going to join us via phone via Zoom Um so we're going to start the meeting today by opening up with an invitation that will be given by Reverend James my Congregational Church of Taris Welcome
pastor And then we'll remain standing for the pledge of allegiance Let us pray Gracious God may your presence of love and compassion fill this chamber today We give thanks for our elected
Lake County commissioners and the gifts of leadership that they provide in the service to the citizens of our community We give thanks for their past experiences and formed and fashioned them as leaders We thank you for their
families who provide support and encouragement as they engage in making caring decisions for all the families of our community And we thank you for every teacher and mentor whose wise guidance molded their skills and provided wisdom
in making decisions We thank you for all the support staff who work with them to provide information that enables them to make informed decisions that benefit the health of our county and all who live and work here May the decisions they
make be guided by your love and compassion for all your children and lift the life of our community so all thrive and benefit from their leadership and service to your honor and glory We also remember with thanksgiving our veterans who have given
so much of their lives to ensure the freedoms we enjoy as a nation And may your blessing be upon them and their families Keep our first responders safe as they serve our communities with dedication and courage
We are grateful for their service In the master's name amen Amen I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank you again pastor Appreciate you being here Um we're going to now uh check to see if we have any modifications or updates to our agenda Yes Good morning
Miss uh Madame Chair Um as you mentioned earlier Commissioner Parks is joining us remotely by Zoom He has asked that he be allowed to vote remotely So at this time I am recommending approval to allow Commissioner Parks to participate and
vote using an electronic platform you will need to first vote to add this to the agenda and then if if that is approved you would then vote on whether or not Commissioner Parks may vote remotely during this meeting Okay Um add
it to the agenda Second All right Um we have a first and second to add it All in favor say I I Any opposed that passes It's added to the agenda Now we need a motion Make a motion to allow Commissioner Parks to vote electronically Second All right All right we have first and second All in
favor say I I Any opposed so we have taken care of that business and Commissioner Parks will be able to um participate in voting in this meeting today under Florida statutes Any other updates to the agenda all right we'll move on to citizen question and comment period Uh we're now
entering the public comment portion of the meeting when the public can discuss items that are not on today's agenda with the exception of any zoning items there um is anyone who has zoomed uh joined our meeting through Zoom they can use their phone to press star 9 to virtually raise their hands Anyone participating through Zoom online please
click the raise hand button to let us know that you wish to speak Everyone will have three minutes to speak and after 3 minutes an alarm will sound letting you know that your time is up Um so we'll get to the zoning um items um a little bit later First we'll um handle
any cards on speaker request And it looks like everything that I have is actually related to zoning So do we have anyone online that wishes to speak on just public comment alone yes Good morning Uh we have one Barbara Morris You should be able to unmute your line
and then please give your name and then your comments to the board And Barbara just to make sure this is we can't do any zoning cases It has to be nonzoning case I understand that Okay My name is Barbara Morris I'm live in district 4 Um
I want I have some concerns about a our process Um when we do our PUDS and development comes before you we go through in your final hearing
Um developers typically do their presentation Staff does their presentation as far as wetlands and open spaces and Wakiva study area and Waka protection area will be addressed under site plan reviews or
other various development reviews The public does not get to participate in those Once the commission has voted on a PUD and the developer has gotten their entitlements the long process of
making sure wetlands are protected and setbacks are proper and open space is proper The public has no input We have no idea what what's going on when it's happening
and we as public in the area know more about a property than probably you do or even the developer because we live here we know it Um we can comment and give input to
help It's recently come to my attention that a prior uh development The maps and construction plans were submitted certified by an engineer and a
surveyor that left off approximately an acre of lake And in that process that acre of lake was calculated I believe in open space calculations Lots
were planned right up against the lake without any setback requirements And it's so far along in the process now that I'm not sure it can be fixed Is there any way we cons can can
consider making sure the wetlands the Wakava study area the Wakava protection area is all designated on the concept plans to begin with So that that last stage the public
is allowed to participate in if we see something that's off or we see something that's not correct that we can speak up at that stage before we no longer have a voice It's something that I really wish
that um this commission would consider altering how the process works Thank you Thank you Barbara And I appreciate the points that you raised and I think it's something that we can talk about more
and um look at with staff as far as how we make sure that um we have a couple opportunities to assure that what was approved is actually what makes it to the ultimate construction plans and development plans
Um okay any other callers okay we'll move on then Um we're moving on to our consent agenda Um I'd like to pull tab one All right we'll pull tab one The only tab
That's the only one on our consent Um so we got two on consent Um we've got on regular That's on regular Yes sir Is there a vote to pull we don't have to vote to pull it I mean you just
asked to pull it and now we'll talk about it For the record I was going to pull it anyway So yeah I think everybody was going to pull it Okay good So the reason why I asked to pull it is this is for a contract for forefront engineering for the supervisor of elections on a
possible um lease opportunity um at a building here in Taris Um the reason why I wanted to pull it is I'm not in favor of voting on anything to move forward until we see the actual lease I have not seen the lease and I don't believe that the county attorney has had adequate
time to go through the lease So I just want to bring that up to everybody's attention and and yeah along those lines I think we can we can certainly make the approval contingent upon us approving the lease So you know we could you could say okay move forward with um approving
design but no activity will occur until we've signed off on the lease say on here that it is contingent to the execution of the lease but I I just don't like doing things What's
the ahead of time what's the advantage of starting right now with the the architecture part first or the design before the lease i just didn't know if there was a I don't know if it was like a timing thing or something we had to do it I Yeah Yeah And I I don't from the standpoint of the supervisor of elections I think he he's just wanting
to move forward but as indicated if we don't have a lease to sign off on you really can't and it's contingent upon the lease you still have to bring the lease back Um and then the other item that I was interested in was um a
requirement that or at least a stipulation that if we approved moving forward with design that we still we weren't bound to move forward with the project unless we were comfortable with the ultimate price of
renovation And I knew that was going to be an issue with everyone else At least I thought it would be an issue with everyone else um that we would want to know how much is it going to cost to do this to actually do the construction renovation Um we've got the price to do the plans but what is it going to cost
to do the renovation so those would be the that that would be a stipulation I would want no matter what moving forward is that we have some parameters Yeah And one thing that we do not know is we do not know if he's going to use this There is there's speculation that he wants to
use this for his administrative office which is a completely different area as where I was going as a warehouse space Um so we don't even know that yet Well I do I can tell you what he told me that he does want this to be the
administrative space because the warehousing situation over at the existing building is more secure and it's more um able for him to to use to get his trucks in and out which I honestly think on an issue like that we have to defer to him on operational
stuff So if he it's easier for him to get all of his equipment in and out of the existing building and and he'd prefer for this to be at the administrative location where the public comes to you know to sign up to to vote or to change their documents
etc That that I I would defer to him on that but um I was just you know looking at the numbers I I think it from all of the things that we've had presented thus far to create additional space for the supervisor elections I think this is the best option so far as
long as the ultimate price to do the renovation is is in a reason reasonable amount in my opinion And he was talking somewhere between $2 to $3 million So I'm just asking a question but should we table it and then include the parameters that you outlined about cost
etc and then just revisit it next month or should we actually just try to pass it with amendments today I'm just curious what the commission think is best Morris Well first of all I want to compliment uh Supervisor Hayes on finding a a least
expensive option Um I thought it was going to be used for storage but it's not He wants administrative building And I agree with the U chairman that he knows how to run his operation Um the only thing I would ask that if we're go
if if we're going to do this I would like to try to do this a little differently Let's challenge the uh architect to provide plans that we could put out for a hard bid instead of doing a construction management and
and it's not a large project It'd be a good good one to try to challenge the architects they can do this to get a plan done well enough that that it could be bid out So um I don't have a problem with tableabling it We do need to move
it forward shortly Uh he he wanted to get started uh a little early and this is the company he had worked with before So I I'm good either way And and might I remind everybody that the price of the lease is not the actual
price that we'd be paying because you have common areas that would also take up the triple net That's not included in the price of the lease as far as I know So once we get all the numbers down then we'll have a better idea of what's going on You know what it'd be good uh Kirby if
you would give them a list of what you would like to see in the least I think Melanie already has that list Okay So do you guys have any indication from him and your discussions how quickly that lease the lease terms would be available
so Michelle Wilkinson in my office the property manager she has had some brief discussions with the property management company over there As of right now um the current tenant is still there They're still under lease Um they are in chapter 11 bankruptcy So we don't know
and the the landlord doesn't know exactly when they may move out He thinks it might be May but a lot of that's going to be contingent upon the bankruptcy court and whether or not they'll um terminate that lease through that bankruptcy proceeding So we could negotiate a lease Unfortunately the
termination date as of or the start date as of right now is going to be up in the air Um so but we can certainly negotiate the terms and as we move a little bit further into this process we may have more of a definitive answer from the current tenant as to when they may be leaving
Yeah So like we have two items though because I do like Commissioner Morris's idea We could I think pass a resolution requesting the architect to come up with a um a pro um a proposal that could be bid out to the public I'm fine I support
voting for that today just to see what that looks like and how they respond and then tableabling the rest and including the new parameters in it next next month or I guess what next week maybe Yeah And you know again and and and I I I'm have indicated to Supervisor Hayes
that I mean I I like this concept and I think we're moving in the right direction Having been down this road a little bit before I'm leerary to say "Let's spend $72,000 designing a building when we don't know what the lease terms are going to be." Correct
and we're assuming they're going to be reasonable but it's all contingent on that bankruptcy getting finalized So we could just be in a holding pattern And yes I get you want to get your building designed You want to get it bid out You want to move forward as fast as you can
knowing that the bankruptcy is probably going to go through It's just that you just got a couple variables here that I'd like to pin down a little bit better And I like to see the hard numbers on the common areas as well because that could be significant
We do have what the current tenant pays for common area maintenance and insurance and they're paying about $65,000 a year just for that alone When you say common areas is that the parking parking lot and prop property taxes are included in
that how much was that about $65,000 a year It's what they're currently paying So it could renegotiate our lease or down or down It could typically with commercial leases there's a provision in there where the landlord will notify you by a
certain date of increases in those fees Um and then you have the option to terminate or not at that point But once you're in there I mean you're usually in there and you're going to pay those increases My thought process was we we don't know how we're going to be voting in five to seven years you might pick up your phone
and do do you know your eyes and you're able to vote So I didn't want to build a $22 million building So to me I think that he has done a good job of finding a
location that if we have to get out of it we don't need anymore we can And the county doesn't have a $22 million bond Um I completely agree with that statement However we do have a good space currently where the current
supervisor of election is now The only problem is he's hamstrung with warehouse space Yeah So yeah and the to the parking though this would be a much better parking situation for the public because it is cramped where it is right now and when it gets busy on certain
days it is So I I get his thought process on why he wants to flip it and be here Um could we just try to pin down terms bring it back um maybe shoot for the next meeting if we can get all that together and if not then bump it one more meeting
Yes So your next meeting is next week Um we'll do what we can to make the ETH But just wanted to point out to you as well the the architect did provide an estimate of internal renovation and he's estimating between 150 per square foot and 100 and 150 at the high end So the
construction cost of renovations would be between two and $3 million And keep in mind because this is a leased building you cannot use infrastructure sales tax for those costs So maybe on next meeting's agenda we could also put some parameters in there as far as what it would be considered
acceptable on the lease terms just so we don't get into a situation where we get down the road and then we're arguing about whether we really agreed to move forward or not without having terms pinned down So for
today's purposes then um we would request that you at least vote on the second part of your um item which would be to negotiate a lease to bring back to the board Okay Do we have a motion for staff to work on negotiation of the lease to bring back to the board i'll make a
motion We get a motion from Commissioner Smith a second from Sabatini Um any further discussion all in favor say I I Any opposed i was an I No that was an eye in Yes Yeah And I agree with the discussion I I
just wanted to say real quick I think it in in um concept you know we may have landed somewhere that's pretty good but really appreciate the discussion And yeah we need to know what the lease terms will be first Okay So we have a unanimous vote Um five to zero Thank you
Commissioner Parks Um moving on then to the regular agenda Uh Commissioner Sabatini this is your Hold on a second We got to vote on the um Don't we have to vote on the first part about the lease no Okay No we can table the forefront and bring that back when we
bring back a lease So the the only thing I want to make sure that we understand is that um as Commissioner Morris stated we want a hard bid not one of these bids to come in and it could be 3 million and then all of a sudden it jacks up to 10 million like it
did at Sears building Yep Okay Okay Um on the regular agenda we have tab two This is a resolution in support of executive order 25-44 ensuring government efficiency And I'll turn it over to I'll be quick just uh you probably saw in the news the
governor uh is establishing a state equivalent to the the federal doge system that's been in the news so much And he requested local governments to um show support for it and to show indicated indicate openness to it And obviously I think it's a good idea for
us to send a letter uh in designating a a staff contact just in case they did ever want to come um speak to us about fiscal accountability I don't think that good counties like our own are obviously going to be a point of concern I think they're focused on some of the
municipalities especially down south But uh I think it's a good looks good on the county and it shows a tenative openness and and fiscal um um openness and Marian County has the same exact resolution on their u uh agenda today literally at
this exact time So maybe we'll beat them if we pass it first But with that that's all I I'm okay with it I just want I just want the public to know that our staff does an absolutely fantastic job We have an internal re we have an internal um
review every year that each commissioner asks for Um so this is already being done But I I do not mind uh supporting a resolution like this And I would want to point out too that um we have a regular audit system in place The clerk of courts performs audits on a revolving
basis and then if any issues do come up or raised by the public we can specifically request um an audit um on particular departments So we do all of this already Um but I think it does indicate that we're not opposed to
opening everything up being completely transparent and indicating how we get things done and how we try to save as much money as possible in the process I I don't disagree with this but what I I do want to make a statement that I I I think from the dis here we do not need
to be doing political type um ordinances I I think that we represent 400,000 people Some of them agree some of them don't So I would just caution the commissioners not to bring up something that's really political political to the
to the dis because I I will vote against it Sure And I want to say I totally agree with you on that You know if something comes up and it's extremely divisive and it distracts from what we do I think that's something we need to be very cautious about But I do think that this falls into a separate category
of fiscal accountability And we do have the best clerk in the state Thank you Gary for keeping us accountable And the reason why I don't have any problem in in opening this up is I have full faith in our um clerk of courts and the staff that we do and we do these
constant audits all the time Right So and we get the reports And we get the reports over and over All right Um Commissioner Parks did you have anything to weigh in on i appreciate it No I I think as I said last week um I I welcome any kind of um
you know um any anything like this I am totally in support of uh you know us coming in I think the process is great here and as has been said we got a great clerk of courts Our staff has done a wonderful job So uh ready to move forward and I
say bring it on So okay Do we have a motion commissioner Sabatini i would move to approve um agenda item from tab two passing a resolution support of executive order 25-44 We have a second Second All right We've
had discussion All in favor say I I Any opposed that passes unanimously 5 to zero Now moving on to public hearings and resonings um which is a separate agenda As we start uh this part of our agenda I'd like to remind each member of the board um that you're required to
disclose any communications you may have had with the applicant or members of the public about any zoning cases on today's agenda And at the start of each case please state on the record the names of persons you have spoken to and the subject matter of those discussions Um written correspondence uh should be given to staff and placed in the zoning
file I think everything is already in there and any site visits should be disclosed Um we've got two items on consent and two items on regular Uh so this is an interesting question On
consent Melanie do we I don't know that we've ever like disclosed discussions on consent because they're on consent Do we still have to make that disclosure yes you should make that disclosure Okay But uh Madam Chair before we do that I'd
like to pull uh uh tab one from PNZ and and discuss that just to learn a little bit more about it Okay All right So item one will come off of consent Um and two will stay on So if we have a motion for two um will consent which is
only item two Move to pass the remaining items on the consent agenda which is just tab two And do we have a second i have a second And were there any disclosures that need to be made with regard to speaking to anyone okay All in favor say I I Any opposed all right That
passes five to zero Then we'll start in order So we'll go back to tab one Thank you chairman commissioners Good morning For the record Mike Fitzgerald Office of Planning and Zoning Director I'd like to point out that these items have been advertised in accordance with Florida statute Beginning
with tab one Uh this is the Ford vacant property This requested action is to reszone approximately 1.31 acres from urban residential to neighborhood commercial C1 The planning and zoning board voted
unanimously to recommend approval of this item This is located at the corner of Northern Avenue in unincorporated Leburg area This is within the Leburg ISBA The city of Leburg had no comments regarding this reszoning They did however have a
comment regarding city water stating that the city water is available with an extension at the applicant's expense Sewer is not available but the city of Leburg is willing to work with the applicant and grant a waiver in that regard Uh the proposed reasonzoning request is consistent with adjacent
neighboring properties Sever several of the properties on Northern Avenue are zoned CP which is a planned commercial zoning or C1 which is the neighborhood district that the applicant is requesting Uh Lake County Fire Station
is uh located about 21 miles from this property Uh transportation concurrency cannot be determined as the applicant has not indicated any uses Uh C1 is a straight zoning So any use that is allowable under our table would be an allowable use for this district Uh an
environmental assessment would be required at the time we go to site plan and staff would review that uh with the development review staff And at this time I could answer any questions I don't have any question just from some clarification because this is my
district and I've been out there many times the the wooded area on the corner on the west side of 473 is actually where the new fire station is going to go To the north of this property is Camp Moon um which is a Church of God camp I
went to when I was a a kid and there's commercial properties all around it So I think this is a great fit for this piece of property And just to um confirm any development plans would have to go through site plan review and comply with all of Lake
County land development regulations as far as how it's laid on the property parking landscaping all of those things That's absolutely correct Yes Well I feel good about it Just wanted to learn a little bit more and I'm glad that I did because now we have our our local uh district rep with some personal insight
So thank you Move approval Okay hold on one second because we pulled it off of consent I think I do have to call for any public comment I don't have any cards but just to be sure All right so you got motion for approval Approve Second All right All in favor say I I
Any opposed i That passes 5-0 Then moving on to tab three Um first do we have any disclosures anyone talk to anyone on tab three i I talked to Mr O'Keeffe uh late
yesterday afternoon on three Is that Heritage no this is Mountain Lake Drive Oh I'm sorry No I'm good Okay No disclosures Commissioner Parks Anything no no disclosures on this tab Okay For me
thank you Chairman Uh tab three The requested action is to reszone approximately 4 acres from neighborhood commercial uh C1 district and agriculture to urban residential which is R six to facilitate uh facilitate a residential development The planning and
zoning board unanimously recommended approval of this item This is located south of Sarrento Avenue along an unimproved Mountain Lake Drive in the mount uh Mount Plymouth area The proposed reszoning request uh to R
six is consistent with adjacent neighboring properties The applicant is proposing to uh develop single family housing This property historically has been uh meant for single family housing It's part of the Mount Plymouth Plat and
the applicant would like to do some lot line configurations so that the lots are larger than what was originally platted Uh it's proposed to be a 55% maximum imperous surface area This is the concept plan that illustrates how the lot lines will be adjusted and those
these will be larger lots than what was originally anticipated The urban residential district um allows 5.5 dwelling units per net acre and this is only being proposed at approximately two and a quarter dwelling units per net acre So
it's well under what the what the allowable use is Uh this will be a septic tank system and wells providing uh water and sewer to the property and it has a dimminimous impact on traffic concurrency I'm happy
to answer any questions If I'm not mistaken this has already been appled for residential since the 1920s Yes sir The plat I believe was from 1926 So always intended for residential use in this area
So why wouldn't staff automatically require on-site um waste distributive system is that uh something we would have to request be included we can we can work through the site plan to request that the applicant uh do do the
do the best septic system that they can Keep in mind this is not a conditional zoning So you cannot place any conditions if you approve it today So didn't we make a change though or maybe it was just for resonings that we were requiring if there wasn't central
sewer that we would require You've only been doing that in conditional zonings It's not part of the county code that would require them to do on-site So just to be clear so what you're saying Mike is that um
your the determination staff would make what would be the best system under the circumstances Is that I mean you is there like a criteria we would rely upon the expertise of the department of health to uh advise us on
best route Okay Because I did think that they were going in that direction Maybe Commissioner Parks can weigh in on that Yeah I was going to say um I appreciate you bringing that question up Chair Uh that was a big question of mine Um I thought we were moving in that direction
Now I don't know what U D department of health it's really D now will will um require um they may not and this just in reality they may not be very uh definitive or give good direction on it
at this point Um but I had thought that we had I thought that we as a county were moving forward with that to try to address our BMAP our BMAP requirements to um get everybody uh either on advanced uh you know DWTS or uh to a
sewer connection from a city So I I'm looking at it as like a BMAP requirement because we've got you know some 8,000 homes or so at some point over the next whatever it is I don't know five or seven years that we're supposed to you know get over to convert over to DWTS
And that's why we're in the grant program to try to get the state money to do that and everything But I thought that that's as you had kind of indicated chair that that we were doing it uh from the BMAP requirement and and chair I I also thought that the
distributor waste was was almost an automatic Um so maybe we just need to bring an ordinance back and clarify and then have like exceptions in the ordinance if there are times when it's not feasible but that otherwise it would be an automatic requirement that you use
the latest and greatest which right now we're told is waste distributive versus septic When you say an ordinance you mean to change the LDR and make it a mandatory DWTS unless there's a reason to not do it Mhm We can certainly work on that and bring it back
to you And if we bring that resolution forward then we need to find one we need to take off the books Yes Typically when you add a new requirement you would take something old out of the code Thank you That's our predates you That's our policy That's
really That's the Josh Blake rules You can't add a new role if you don't take an old roll off I'm I'm sure there's something about squirrel hunting on Sundays or something Who knew you can take more than an one old rule off You can take multiple old rules Yes
Okay All right So if we were to jump right on that and get that done that would likely be in place by the time they would be moving forward with with this anyway And I think the record will show our intention that that's what's being used Yes ma'am We're just talking about a
zoning today Mhm So if that ordinance gets put in place before they apply for their site plan that new rule would apply for their site plan application So do we need to uh postpone this to make sure the ordinance is there
i don't think you really need to postpone this because I think you have time between this being approved and getting an ordinance or at least an ordinance will be in process That's correct He still has to go through development review approvals So
we could bring that ordinance back as long as we have it in place before he's ready to pull septic permits Are these durable and I would add Go ahead I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry uh Commissioner I was just say and I would add that um I I think there'd be value in if if our
staff was sort of um taking this application to when they go to D to you know obviously um let them know the discussions of today and that that that would help perhaps with their own determination to let them know that we're going forward with this ordinance
and that this came up uh during the discussion today that we wanted this to be the DWTS to be within this uh little small subdivision there and I think they would make that determination Is Mountain Lake Drive paved
no sir So is that a county road or will that be their road it's currently platted as public rightway So there's nothing there now um that the developer did do some early clearing but they would have to make
this a county standard roadway Um since it is publicly dedicated okay and because it's not conditional zoning you can't really say that in this ordinance but it is code They can't plat lots off of it without it being a county
standard road Do they have to give it to us or can they keep it and maintain it themselves with the HOA you can't you're not going to be able to condition it because this is not a conditional zoning Okay Correct But as they go through the development process they could choose to vacate it and make it a private gated um
community but as of right now it's publicly dedicated right away So under the under your question yes under the goodness of their heart they could take this road on themsel Yeah And it might be make the lots more marketable and valuable if they did gate
it but they don't have to It doesn't have to be gated just to be a private road either All right So we've um do we have any um comments from the public i see I have one card from Cindy Newton Um Cindy if
you want to come forward Good morning Cindy Newton District 4 Uh one point I want to make was in the original application for this uh what was submitted to the health department
and they came back with no comment was that Mount Dora was going to be supplying utilities here So I want to make sure that is clear to the department of health that um they are going with septic Uh one reason that I was going to
request the on-site is of course the BMAP and also uh what is on this is just what they're reszoning at this time and you can see most of it is in flood plane so they're going to be putting these
septic systems in flood plane uh when I talked to the department of health They said it was okay to put the septic in the flood plane but not the the um drain field And there would be an understanding that if it did flood that
the septic could float Also they rather than just what they're reszoning they own even more property than what's in the concept plan It comes clear over to here It's around 10 acres
altogether So we're looking at possibly 20 houses with septic and wells So I think the on-site is very important in this and especially since it's in the Wakiva protection area and
the Wakiva BAP So thank you for your time Thank you Um appreciate those comments Those are along the lines of our concerns on the septic versus on-site waste distributed system But I'm curious Mike on the flood
plane issues Um don't they still have to have sufficient land um out of the flood plane to be able to build homes on if Lake County does not exclude building in the flood zone if they do they have
to meet the building code and raise the finished floor elevation to I think our code is 18 in of base above base flood elevation So they've got to go above base flood on finished floor elevation Um but unless we make the changes that
we've been discussing to compensating storage there wouldn't be any requirement for compensating storage If you build in the flood plan you go above base flood don't you still have to have compensating storage uh that's a great question for our
public works folks to discuss storm water requirements if they want to I just I think it's important to understand that they still have to create a place for the water to go on their own lots
Jeff Airhart engineering director So nice of Mike to call me up Um the um you you're you're allowed to fill to build the the house without providing compensating storage Anything else besides what's built up for the for the house um foundation itself would have to
be compensated on a cut by cut basis So like driveway driveway would either they would either need to do it at existing grade where they wouldn't fill and it would if it does flood it would flood or if they did build it up they'd have to build they would have to excavate somewhere else on their property And the
rules that we've been talking about amending that are in process would that change what we're talking about today would that be any different than what you just described i don't know I don't know that Jordan isn't here and she's kind of been the
one leading I think the charge on that I I believe the 18 inches was going to change to 24 in as far as how far up it was going to be or was going to change the the actual flood I don't know Yes Um we don't I don't know the answers I don't I don't think it I think you're
still allowed to to construct I I don't I'm not 100% sure if it's 100% in in the flood plane I know if it's only like a portion in the flood plane you're supposed to build where there is not flood plane but I I don't think we're restricting a person's ability to develop within the allowable land
development codes And if it stayed commercial we'd still have the same issue and unless our code changes And again we're back to if we're in the process of amending the ordinance and the ordinance is done before they apply for their site plan then the new
rules would apply to this as well And and regarding the road I I do believe the applicant's intention is to leave that as a dirt road I'm not quite it is it is county right away but it's it's non-maintained but that's to be decided further on I'm not 100% on that That's just my understanding All right So
that's another question If it's just reszoned to R six and it's a dirt road I didn't think that they could plat off of a dirt road No I mean we've we've talked to this developer and we've told him that he's going to have to have a road up to county standards because it is not an
existing dirt road If the road was already there then they would be able to to build off of that but it's not there All right we've definitely flushed a lot of issues out here Excuse me chairman We do have a hand on
Zoom If there's a like to speak on Zoom uh Barbara Morris you should be able to unmute your line now Barbara Morris District 4 Um several things on this project One I want to address the road situation
um Mount Plymouth's subdivision when it was platted they actually built the roads So underneath all those trees there is clay and piece pea gravel The road is actually there I know this because I have built on several roads in
Mount Plymouth area that had was covered in trees and all I had to do was take the trees out and restore the road But on this application attachment D says they're asking for nine lots The standard review page says they're asking
for for four lots Their concept plan shows 19 lots This was vested under the originally the lot of record ordinance which has was converted
to the non-conforming uses ordinance 1.08.03 03 Uh the county attorney has indicated that you can't put conditions on it because resoning is non-conditional but in this case it's a non-conforming use
and it has special reasonings behind it 1.08.03A 03A says that existing prior to the effective date of 2030 comprehensive plan September 22nd 2011 is allowed
unless there is a change of use from one classification identified to another use classification They are changing a use classification of C1 to R six That possibly in my opinion
brings it into the situation where you can put conditions on it Um some of these lots they have platted are less than 12,500 square ft
The ordinance requires one of them at least I spoke to the U Department of Health and their current standard is 21,780 The reason our ordinances say 12,500 square foot is because the lot of
record ordinance at the time back in the '90s when it was passed the health department requirement for well and septic was 12,500 ft That has changed But if you pass this the health department is required to give them a
waiver because it is a vested property Um I think this is important because it is right on the lake There is no requirement for them to put any kind of a swell to prevent runoff into that lake
And you're throwing up 19 20 homes and that lake is coming forward It It's actually improving and it may be coming back I don't want to see us do something that will contaminate it Thank
you Thank you Barbara And you you do have a lot of institutional knowledge on those that old lot of record um um ordinance from the from the 90s Um
I think honestly think that a lot of important information was raised and we need to relook at this Agreed Can I just make one more comment too Chair certainly
Yeah Just again in regarding regarding the DWTS I think I really and I'm I was kind of frantically trying to look through the comp plan right now but I think it says it's pretty clear in our comp plan right now that in the Wakiva protection area that um we are I think
it gives us the ability to require DWTS to move away from uh septic tanks and the study area to either DWTS um or uh connection to sewer as Well so I think I think I I know we we kind of
addressed that issue with the ordinance that we're going to hope hopefully change here but in the in the time being if this were to be approved and then over the next couple months before a site plan comes in I do think the staff has the ability to just require the DWS ba based on trying to be consistent with
our comp plan Is the uh applicant here the applicant is not present in the room We've contacted them to see if they can attend via Zoom I'm not sure if they've logged on yet A lot of questions that need to be
answered and perhaps stabling I think the applicant is on Zoom now according to the information we're receiving If the applicant could please raise your hand on Zoom
Anything nothing So so I'd like to make a motion that we table this until our next zoning meeting Okay And along those lines I think we need to look at issues like size of the lots in relation to um minimum
requirements um and the waste distributive system but also swelles runoff related to the road construction and the lake Madam Chairman as a suggestion as part of postponing this would you want to
include in your motion that it be readvertised as a PUB in which case you can address all of those issues would you like to amend a motion so at least that's an option for the applicant because otherwise the way it is now they have to come back the way as
a straight zoning If you make your motion different then they could bring it back as a PUD I'd I'd like to just bring to the board's attention that this is only a reasonzoning of half of what the the property owner has If we come back with a
PUD he will have he really should do a PUD for all of the property that he owns not just the half that we're discussing today Agreed And I'm not sure if that would be that would be considered a board initiated resoning which is not a voluntary
reasonzoning Right And and I'm not comfortable with that So I'm going to keep my motion the same Okay All right So just to clarify that would be bringing it back then on May 6th All right We have a first we have a second And just for discussion so the
applicants aware I think there have been a lot of concerns expressed so that needs to be taken into account with regard to preparation for the next meeting Um all in favor say I I Any opposed all right that passes 50 to postpone to the next zoning meeting Then
moving now to item four and we have to make disclosures Um I spoke I spoke with Dan O'Keefe late yesterday and I've spoken to several engineers
and other people about this project Um and I've been on the property I've had a site visit with staff and also with the applicants engineer and a couple representatives That was a while back Um
talked to Dan O'Keefe talked to Bill Ray Um and I've also talked to several residents um during this process Spoken to know one about this Okay And I have spoken to Dan O'Keefe
chairman site as well The the applicant contacted staff this morning and is requesting the opportunity to address the board and request uh a postponement of this agenda item Is the applicant's representative here
yes Uh good morning Uh respectful of time we had uh submitted the drainage calculations and the flood plane study as requested There were some untimely delays in getting the consultant engaged and then getting a different consultant
engaged due to a conflict of interest That study's been submitted to staff staff uh does has not had to time to complete their review Understanding it's a critical component of moving forward with the project We're asking for the uh
continuence so that staff has time to fully review the hydraologic report that was submitted We can further address their questions with staff that come that comes up and then together with staff set a time certain when we can bring this back forward But again it's
based upon staff's full understanding of the hydraologic report and then any additional issues that may have come up in the interim So so just so I'm 100% clear um you want to postpone it and then not give us a time certain today but as you go through
the process then come back with the time certain Correct Um I I I request that we be allowed to work with Mike and give him and engineering appropriate time to fully review and answer the questions Then together both staff and the applicant itself will give you a time
certain as to when we can come forward I don't want to try and schedule you know your staff I I know we probably have some public comment I don't know if they want to speak on it now or if they want to wait until staff has a chance to review and then get all
their questions answered and then come back I don't know Um as far as the request um would we we've got public speaking cards Would the comments that we would take at this time be to this request of a
postponement or would that be up to the board whether we would hear any other concerns typically in the past you have limited public comment to the request for postponement only However this is the second time it's come back so it's really board's discretion whether you
would like to give them the opportunity to put all of their objections on the record Again the applicant could consider that as they're working through the process or you can limit it to postponement only I I just I hate the fact that we have a full room of residents that are impacted
by this request [Music] and it's an inconvenience to come back again and not know when that's going to happen Um but to the extent of having cards and having comments this would give an
opportunity for the applicant to hear what issues you all have I know there there has been a public like a community meeting at least one maybe even more um where you've given comments but
um I mean I I I feel like um I mean we're in a is it we're in a tough situation we either would say no to the postponement and potentially just deny it altogether in which case they're going to file again and they're going to come back so we're going to end up here
again just realistically So can we do this in a way that is the most convenient way possible Um we recognize that it that it's a hardship on the public to come back but then some of the comments that may be raised are have also been addressed and
are are you know in our application coming forward Um we'd be hesitant to open it up and imply that it's a full public hearing right now to vote the project up or down We know that the critical component of the flood plane has not been fully reviewed by staff Um
we know that staff is engaging a consultant to review the flood plane Staff is unable at this time to tell us when that consultant who is unfamiliar with the basin at this point would be able to give us a time certain as when we could come back forward But until we can get
those questions issued the comment a lot of the comments we know that are going to be raised are about the flooding within the issue And that's what we're seeking to address Okay Um well at this point I think I'm going to have to call speaker cards and
if you can give your input on the on the request for a postponement um and let us know where where you stand Um we have um first speaker I've got a card for is Jeff Kimbro
First I want to thank the board for your attendance last year at the flooding workshop and your concern over the issues we had in our area late last year I also want to thank in particular Chairman Campion and Jeff Heheart for
their assistance with the residents of Wolf Branch and states in removing the flood waters that incurred in our neighborhood that were from without our development That's why we're very skeptical We're extremely concerned about this development going in It is
due north of our uh area Um I'm going to keep my comments very short today I had some lengthy comments I was going to eat up the whole 3 minutes today I I would request that you deny this application today Let them resubmit it fully Um we
have several concerns in regard to the access roads the wastewater treatment the flooding concerns and the density I did the math on this very very quickly uh where they are building homes Although I do understand the
conservation uh approach and understand that and can appreciate that where they are building homes they're building seven homes per acre That density is absurd for that area of the county Every
property that touches that is anywhere from a 1acre lot to five plus acres Wolf Branch Estates is 2 and 12 to 3 and 1/2 acre lots Um this is totally out of character for this area I will save my more detailed uh concerns for the next
time I approach here Um and I look forward to seeing you again but I ask that you deny this extension today Thank you Thank you uh Jeff Um Heidi Swanson And then after Heidi I've got John
Suarez Thank you Good morning I'm very uncomfortable with public speaking so you're going to have to bear with me Um there are several points obviously that I have to make My home was the one that was flooded in Wolf Branch Estates Um two things I want
to point out is in regards to real estate and this is you may know this but this is really going to the developer I pulled up the real estate this morning on realtor.com There are almost 6,000 homes available
Um more than that obviously with new developments the Orlando Business Journal just recently said housing supply rise hiding unsold homes Um of those 6,000 lot properties that are available in Lake
County those five acres or more Um in Sarrento there are four four properties available The cheapest one is $995,000 So there I understand there is obviously
people moving to this area We don't want to stop growth That's not reasonable This developer is going to put something in but put something in that makes sense for the area You have the innovation district going in where you're going to hopefully have very high executive
paying jobs These are not people that want to live in a home that is right next to their neighbor They want to have a nice estate home which is what we have in Wolf Branch Estates and we are requesting that you at least take that into
consideration Um in addition there is an elevation issue If you look at the alt code 1595860 which is the property right between Scenic Hills Drive and Wolf Branch Estates the home on the corner in on
Scenic Hills is at 105 ft The home in Wolf Branch that abuts that is at 62 feet Um it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that when it rains where is that water going to go There is obviously an elevation issue to
be addressed Um there is still several issues going on with the timberwalk elevation Uh my husband and I actually had an independent engineering firm come out and evaluate the flooding issues Um they are stating that the failed cross
culvert is located upstream from Timberwalk outfalls The cross culvert is approximately 10 ft higher than Timberw walks outfall inverts So while you're work I know this whole thing is brought up because the flooding We've got to fix the problem first It doesn't matter if
you put a 5-ft culvert under that road if it's above where the water is coming out So um I have lots of other notes here but I see my time is running out So I am requesting a denial because this just is not um it's not the right thing
to do So thank thank you for your comments Um John Suarez and then um Stephanie Burgess Good morning John Suarez District 4 um Lake County Um I'm I'm against this
development I wish you just niched it Um the flooding issues I have a really an a question for you all Do you have all the hydraology and engineering studies back from DVO and everybody else that was involved in everything
countywide so I take that as no Well we don't typically do back and forth but I can tell you we have a lot of data from DVO Um but we're waiting on our independent consultant to evaluate what
uh this developer has submitted And do we have a viable plan put in place for all the flooding that's happened and I can say that we probably don't Correct I think we need to stop with this until we have all those
answers answered because I can see nightmares happening around the county due to the flooding issues and stuff This piece of property is way higher than a lot of other people and it's like they said water runs downhill They can
build a big old pond but what happens when the pond breaches if it does right that's always an if If that breaches oh god we're going to have a real nightmare So I think we need to look at all of those
things before we move forward The other thing I want to point out is they had some construction equipment on the property recently and we stopped the people when they came out and asked them "Why did you come down our roads there
were non-maintained county roads and they were told that's the only way to get to the property where they could have came right down Avington to the gate and that's a county maintain road My fear is if this thing is approved they're going to use our roads
non-maintained We maintain them We pay them money to put material into the road so we can pass is going to be destroyed and they're going to use them as a construction interest And I think that's totally wrong So I'll leave it at that and I hope you deny it and we'll come
back at another day Thank you Stephanie Burgess And then Sarah Keer Good morning Are we able to look at pictures just to summarize okay Uh I got a few pictures here Again
Misty would you mind helping her out my name is Stephanie Burgess I leave live in Scenic Hills area Um I just was going to summarize kind of what's been going on We've all already talked about it Three speakers that came up I agree
completely I'm just going to just refresh does just turn it like refresh our memories of this and I won't hold them up there for very long
Um you're all familiar with this Um this is what we're dealing with with a flooding issue that hasn't been addressed yet Um just going to just like I said this
is what's happening off of Scenic Hills This is the road that they want to uh put towards Scenic Hills for the development which is flooded at that time This is the house behind what they
had to deal with Just to show you this has been repaired but will it happen again we don't know They've been working on it for months draining this this pond It's clay
so it doesn't when it rains it fills back up So there's no drainage for it Um hang on one second Had to buy this house because of the flooding that nothing has been done
about just yet The city now owns this home Um wanted to talk about also too uh the sewage system Uh no contiguous
uh system in place for this development Um ownership of this property has changed hands more than four times Uh it's not developable Excuse me I'm nervous Um
it's too wet It's a wetland um for the animals and stuff like that And again no survey or um permits have been done for the endangered gopher turtles which they
support 500 other different species of animals in that area nesting and whatnot But that's all I have I suggest that we make this a green space You know it's not developable It's it's unable to develop
this property It's too wet It's our n our natural drainage Anyways thank you Thank you so much All right Sarah Keer and then John
Paladino All right John Paladino and after due respect to everybody else Okay And and I appreciate that And if anybody wants to defer to the fact that their concerns have been raised at this point and of course we're what's under deliberation is whether we would
postpone um and come back at a different date for them to present um the rest of the information that they put together Um Jason um Howell and then Michael Ambrose Good morning My name is Jason
Howell I live in the Wolf Branch Estates neighborhood I come before you not only as a concerned resident of the community but also as a professional with deep experience in this field I hold a law degree specializing in real estate and uh environment sustainability as well as
a master's degrees from Georgetown University in real estate I run a real estate investment fund here in Central Florida I I write I want to rise a strong opposition to this development Uh not because we're against progress but
because in its current form it goes against Lakes County own development standards in three different fronts Value impact density as well as accessibility One of the key questions when evaluating a new development is
will it affect values the developer says no but that's not the full story As a professional know residential appraisals rely heavily on sales comparison approach and comparing homes of like kind and similar scale When
place a density community against a smaller uh community the you're going to have this this this drift of of of of smaller houses to bigger houses because the smaller houses may considerable consider
comparables and ultimately dragging down the appraisal values of the larger homes This is especially relevant to us because our community sits on directly south of the heritage development and now this proposed development to the south of us which is the new development
We we get sandwiched in between these these two smaller you know potential density communities Uh worse you have this thing called the the unicorn effect All right where if our homes in our neighborhood become so unlike un anything around us
right appraisers and lenders have to reach out to get comparable sales you know resulting in less favorable appraisals more buyer uncertainty and ultimately suppress property values Uh the lack the Lake County own
development guidelines acts whether the new project reflects logical and orderly progression of development My property is nearly a 100,000 square feet There's nothing orderly or logical or transitional about placing an
8,000 ft directly adjacent This kind of abrupt shift creates visual and economic whiplash and breaks the natural development rhythm that preserves both aesthetic and value this development proceeds as pro If it
proceeds as proposed it would not be filling a community It would be fracturing it I'm going to run out of time but we we we motion for you to uh to object to
this Thank you Um Michael Ambrose and then Michelle Wooten And again we're really focused right now on whether to do the postponement Uh my name is Michael Ambrose Good morning I agree with the rest of these
folks that uh you should deny this completely Uh I've my wife and I have been a resident here of the hills of Mount Dora for over 20 years We chose and invested here because of the rural
nature of this area Now for the second time Heritage Green is trying to get you commissioners to approve their subdivision which if allowed will permanently destroy the rural nature of this part of Lake County
In the summary analysis in zoning department staff report they describe the objective of a rural conservation subdivision is quote to provide for alternative subdivision designed to provide housing in a manner that also
preserves agricultural and forestry lands natural and cultural features scenic viewsheds and most importantly rural community character Heritage Green plans to put 265 homes
and if granted an additional 49 homes totaling a total of 315 homes on 217 acres I can't imagine what the traffic and road repair issues uh that this
density will cause to Wolf Branch Road including the increased potential for flooding like we experienced last year My sub subdivision and our neighbors at Wolf Branch Estates both of which surround Heritage Green consists of a
total of 208 acres 9 acres less with a total of 91 homes spaced on properties that range from 1 to 5 acres each Do you uh elected commissioners really
believe that Heritage Green keeps the rural community character objective of the rural conservation subdivision in this area of Lake County i don't Thank you Thank you And then Michelle Wooten
and then Danny Mack And again trying to focus on the postponement Hi Michelle Wooten the hills of Mount Dora Um they've pretty much covered everything I was concerned about Uh there is a road that's going in front of my house that's going to be the
roundabout and they have deviated my driveway to a perimeter road that went by the road that they want to connect from Heritage Green out that was flooded If I remember the last meeting you did state something about it was a flood ground and probably wouldn't get the
road Excuse me But I'm here to ask today to please deny the project deny the road that goes behind my house I'm being squished uh by two roads Um if they have 200 homes there won't be
just 200 cars There'll be 2.5 2.9 cars um per household And this will be the exit that will dominate most of the neighborhood by where all of our items are downtown Mount Dora The school we
have a lot of impact on Wolf Branch as it is The school alone contributes a lot of traffic trying to come in and out of scenic hills drive So at this time um and I'll be back to the next meeting is please deny the project and deny the
road behind my house Thank you Um and next is Danny Mack and then Lana Folsam Hi my name is Danny Mack I live in Wilter Estate subdivision Um I do want to respond to their request Heritage
Green for postponement We have many people here that have jobs They work for a living This is an extreme hardship for these people to show up I hope you really understand that at 9:00 during the week they have to change their whole lives their family lives for them to ask
for another postponement I believe they're just stalling Okay so I I want to really address that And and final finally yesterday we had.13 ines of rain not even a quarter
of an inch of rain and we had flooding again on Wolf Branch Road The storm water came again down from Timberwalk Nothing has been corrected We're we're going to be approaching hurricane season in about two months It's going to be devastating
if that is not addressed And and the Heritage Green subdivision is going to be devastating to our subdivision and the Wolf Branches We'll have no out they will eliminate our our our regress degress to get out of that subdivision as we were trapped
in it when Hurricane Milton came in So we need we need your help to to to stop this subdivision coming in I appreciate that Thank you very much Thank you Mr Mack Uh Lana and then um
Kathy uh Fury I believe Good morning Lanna F I live in um Wolf Branch Estates District 4 I just want to address um their request for a postponement I request that y'all deny it The last meeting was they were supposed to bring they were supposed to
be prepared to that meeting and y'all had so many questions so many holes in their presentation about the flooding about the traffic about the sewage where they're going to get their water So why are y'all going to give them another bite at the apple why are we going to convenience them that's unconvenienced
all of us by not being prepared when they are the ones that put in the application Y'all didn't put in their application We didn't put in their application They did They thought they were ready They're not Please say no Kathy and then um Cindy Newton is last
Good morning My name is Kathy Fury I live in Wolf Branch Estates Um most of my uh concerns have already been addressed but I do have a few more to bring up Number one does the St John's Water Management District have any say
or input regarding this matter because I know they're already involved in the flooding in our neighborhood So do they have any say in this matter well they ultimately over they they review storm water permits that are put in by a
developer So they're not involved in the zoning aspect I understand Okay And then then as far as the sewage goes I'm very concerned if they're going to have septic tanks which is what I think has been discussed That's what I read in tab 4 Where does their sewage go because I
have a well I don't want their well their sewage draining down into my well So I request that you deny this um extension and just go ahead and deny the um application all together Thank you
And Cindy Newton is the last speaker card Cindy Newton District 4 It's difficult to know what to comment on because I don't know if it's going to be postponed But uh one thing I would ask if it is postponed is to make sure you take DVO's
second video assessment into account for this property Uh he not only has the one that was majorly done showing the uh flow coming from the north and from the west
but now he's also got one that's in the shallower areas that's coming from the east So there's a lot of water issues with this Also there's a existing deep depression with vertical leakage to the
aquifer In other words a sinkhole And this assessment that they have online uh states that the depression will result in a rise of water elevation in the depression to about 75 ft in AVD And currently the water in there is at
52 feet Uh you're going to have you've got a um management plan in place for this now and it mentions a lot of use of Roundup You've got an open depression there You're going to have runoff that's
going into the this low depression Uh even during normal times let alone during the excuse me the uh high water times also the use of heavy equipment coming in FWC notes some issues with
that uh trying to avoid the gopher turtle tortoise burrows and even the tortoises themselves And they even state that the hatchlings can't be seen from this uh type of uh grading and uh heavy
equipment And the overall design for it I don't feel it actually supports clustering This is agricultural land being changed over to residential This is also the rural
transition area getting a bonus of 22% in density because of the the clustering But the clustering does not appear to support what we had put in place for
the conservation subdivisions So thank you for your time Thank you All right I'll ask the applicant if the applicant wants to um make closing comments Oh online Oh I'm sorry Mr Ray but I need to
check to see who's on the phone Yes we do have one online Barbara Morris You should be able to unmute your line now Barbara Morris District 4 Um I don't believe that this proposed
um subdivision or whatever it is is really ready to be considered Even if you postpone this so that the uh most recent report can be evaluated you still have so many
issues that you probably need to just say no Decline it Give the applicant a year to go back and figure out all these problems On the Avery engineering report that they submitted it states it is
proposed to construct a 5 foot deep pond with an area average area of about 5.8 acres to temporarily store 25 acre feet of flood waters which will be pumped into the pond during an extreme weather
The proposed storage pond known to have a vertical leakage to the underlying limestone our aquifer is what they intend to pump this in We have another major storm And I'm sure that two five 10 years from now the
homeowners association is going to run out there and install pumps so that they can pump this water to this aquifer sucking hole in time for it not to flood everybody
around them It amazes me that this is even being considered because pumping is for after the hurricane has passed and after the homes have been flooded You're setting
yourself up for down the road having to buy another house and turning it into a retention pond So many other things are wrong with this proposal that it shouldn't even be in front of you The city of Mount Dora has
informed you they will not supply they don't have capacity for central septic They will not accept the roads into their maintenance system You're going from a one to five transition area down to 6,000 square
foot lots And even though they are having a conservation area there is absolutely nothing in this world to prevent someone from coming in later and removing that conservation area because I've watched this this board do that
very thing on smaller conservation areas Even though it says it's in per perpetuity it's not There is no solid ingress and egress There are so many problems with this
proposal that even if you delay it for another couple of months it is not a feasible project And I'm just asking you you have the ability today to say no and decline it and let these people go back
to work and not disrupt their lives at least for a year and I request that you do so Thank you Thank you Um and that's our last speaker And now Mr Ray Um thank you for your time Again uh
the majority of the information that we heard again is specific to the hydraologic study um staff has not had a time to review that study that was submitted question negotiate find out for appropriate ways to move forward with it That's what
we're requesting is that staff had the time to fully review the hydraologic study that was submitted If if staff feels that additional information is is required that we be provided the opportunity to provide that with staff and then come forward with with a clear
plan to mitigate restore enhance address the flooding issues that are occurring not only on potentially this project but also offsite and adjacent to it We're just not looking at specifically one project We recognize clearly and simply
that there's an issue at at Wolf Branch and that this is part of that contributing basin How do we address that moving forward again we request the continuence to move forward We've heard some of the similar items that have been addressed before that we believe we have answers for when we come back in front
of you But again we request the continuence to move forward on a mutual time agreeable with staff All right Thank you Okay Um again I want to say thank you to everyone for being here today Um and appreciate everyone's
comments Um and um I'm going to ask the board um whether there is a motion I do want to state on the record just for the benefit of the applicant I feel that there are a lot of issues that I don't
see how get resolved but I move to deny the application Yes [Applause] And we have a motion for denial And do we have a second
come on now Come on All right y'all Y'all please We don't do yelling at our meetings Um so we we don't have a second on the denial The question then is um on a and and I I'm the chair so I don't make
motions or seconds Um so we're back to do we have a motion for a um postponement go ahead So I would like to um there's been a lot of things brought up for the developer
to go over uh septic hydraulic iss hydraology issues um road access issues rural cons this is the first rural conservation design we have done um to my knowledge done by Randall Alt
uh who is well respected in the field of rural conservation and this project here instead of allowing 35% open space allows 61.5% open space
Um I think I would just like to give the applicant uh time to redesign the roads the hy get the hydraology issue um looked at and by the time that this
comes back to us the septic issue will be solved due that new resolution that we just requested to have done So I would like to um at least allow the applicant to go through all these things and bring it back to us for
consideration Are you stating a time certain or just whenever they make the request for a hearing all right Is there a second on your motion second There's a first and second um and for discussion Um I I personally
don't think that the conservation design works here I think the conservation design can work in certain instances I don't think it works on a property like this that has such huge um um changes in its topography Um and
and I don't think it works because of the impact of that topography on the adjoining properties and we're not even we don't have to speculate we know because we have a track record um with
what happens with drainage in this area Um I think the access issue is a huge issue Um I personally think that rural transition land use that's there should stay there and the zoning that's there should stay there and if they can figure out a way to design and meet the the
rights that they have right now but I'm not in favor of giving additional rights Um so I just want that to be clear just as the applicant goes forward so they know where I stand on it Um and I'm hoping this conversation they understand where this whole board stands because
this whole board stand I think stands with you We just don't want to delay it a whole year I think they can go back and redesign it and bring it back to us It have to be a major major design change They have that noted And Commissioner Parks did you have anything else you wanted to weigh in on
um no I I guess my thoughts are um you know this is it's it's about process of course Um this is the first time that we're going through the conservation subdivision uh criteria Um this is a concept plan So it's not the actual PUB
zoning um and or land use change that would come after this This is like an added step It's a concept plan Um I would state very clearly that if we were at the PUD level I would not be able to support There's obviously too many big questions
uh to move forward I I think that some of the questions could be answered Um like you chair though I you know I'm not sure maybe they can't Um and we'll you know I think we'll certainly know within the next few months on that Um but I
would I would uh I would support uh the um the table I guess it's a table request Is that that's what the motion is on the floor The motion is for continuence Correct Yes Yeah Okay Okay All right Any other for discussion um
all in favor of um tableabling until a date that the applicant requests a new hearing uh say I I I I Any opposed i All right So that the tableabling passes 3 to two and there will be public notices
sent out Um I would they would have to send like actual notices right to the surrounding property owners We will do the entire public notice process again Okay And I would also make a suggestion that the applicant makes more uh community meetings
Just a suggestion Okay All right So you will be getting notices at such time as they request a hearing on their revisions and their additional information through the postal service Through the
postal service Yes In the mail Okay All right Thank you everyone That concludes our zoning cases today We're going to um as the chambers clear we have um reports Um so we'll have uh soon as it gets
quiet we'll move on to reports That won't take long Okay moving ahead then Um do we have a report county Attorney do we have a report county manager Commissioner Satini do you have a report thank you very much Uh not much
in the district in terms of a report but it is that time of year It's that time of year We're in the middle of the legislative session You guys all know you've been following Oh it's fine If you guys can hear me it's fine I don't want to um you know just really focus on some of
these bills that are being filed There's some very good bills moving There's ones that are very bad for the county bad for Lake County in particular And just you know pay attention and focus and and there's a lot in the air Uh the c the House the Senate and the governor really all in completely different directions right now So your voice matters You
could really tilt and influence I think um um some of the stuff that's going on But there's when it comes to rural protection when it comes to protecting the quality of Lake County there's a lot of bills that would have a substantive effect So I would just encourage everybody to stay focused on it during the last I think we got seven seven
weeks left on it So that's all Thank you Uh Commissioner Parks Um nothing to report Um looking forward to seeing you guys uh next week and u thanks for letting me join you uh
virtually Oh uh one quick thing too I will I do I want to say it u in followup to Commissioner Sabatini this s this SB118 want to definitely start voicing my opposition to that uh that bill as
well Um and I'm actually going to write an editorial about that um because I I just I have some pretty big concerns with that one Um but other than that I'm looking forward to um Commissioner Smith's uh what day is what day is it
uh today that's scary April Fool's All right Yeah Um thank you Commissioner Parks and look forward to having you back next week Um Commissioner Smith on your report Do you have a report uh yes Uh the first report is um Commissioner
Parks I hope you get to feeling better here pretty quick Um I'm glad you're on the line uh giving your input Second issue is a legislative issue Um Commissioner Sabatini is 100% correct
uh don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see Uh a lot of the stuff coming on Facebook and all this all these um other social media platforms they try to sway you one way or another The only thing I would suggest is actually get the bill number
and read it and then call your legislator and ask them about it to explain it to you what it exactly means That way you'll have a full scope and not one-sided Uh that's all I have to say about that Um second thing is is
um today's election day for northern east lake county So uh I hope you go out and vote and then um I was in Washington DC last week had a very productive meeting with Congressman Webster
um about the trail project we have in here between Lake County two areas of Mount Dora was extremely productive Uh I would like to thank uh Maurice who who is our um legislative aid up there lobbyist up there that um actually
helped this and Pam Jones who is with the Commissioner Webster's office They were paramount and making this meeting happen Uh I just want to say I want to thank um Congressman Webster for uh taking the time and his complete
um attendance uh at that meeting Uh it was very nice to see his engaging uh part of it and I think that we're going to be moving in the right direction and that's all I have for right now until it becomes a national
day All right Um Commissioner Morris Okay Uh we had a great lead uh executive board meeting They do have a lot of things on on moving forward So uh I'm excited about that Uh secondly Fland Park Day was great last Saturday Um on
on a a sad note um Commissioner Chris Bell passed away and uh I think everybody knows that was uh past Commissioner Blake's father-in-law So um keep them in your prayers That's my report All right And under my report
I'll keep it short I just want to say thank you uh to Commissioner Smith and everyone on county staff and city of Tvarious and City of Mount Dora that continuing to work on the Bukiva Trail Um I'm super excited about the potential of having a trail that runs from
Sarrento to Mount Dora to Mount Dora to Taris and on throughout the rest of Lake County and in the other direction as well to Orange and to Seminal So um this is uh getting exciting that we're making some progress and I appreciate all the hard work and determination not to give up on this So Commissioner Smith what is
today well and and to go on that um it's not just a trail it's also a utility corridor right as it was mentioned earlier today the Maldor is having some capacity issue So is Taris uh two different things One's having capacity issues with uh wastewater the other
one's having a capacity issue with water uh the city of Tvaras and city of Madora have come together and they're going to share uh services if this happens So it's a it's a great for everybody along that corridor So with that second Commissioner Morris is raising I apologize I did forget one
thing Um I'd like to for us to consider working with Lake Sumpter on the Legends Way I'd like to start onou to uh get the county involved in that uh project down there on Legend's
way to run it to um manage it And I wanted Yes I agree Uh I agree 100% as long as the maintenance is brought up to snuff where they should have done previously There there is money that's going to be available for that Uh we're looking at
naming rights uh right now There is some um work that's already been done but we do need to bring it up to up to snuff and well they need to bring it up to snuff then we can take it over Yeah that was under the original agreement I don't disagree with that We're working towards
that All right Appreciate your work on that All right Now drum roll Okay So everybody knows that today is April Fool's Day or National Tom Foolery's Day but some people may not know that today
is actually sourdough bread day So when you go out and have your sandwich today go out and enjoy it on a sourdough bread That's all I have Nice Excellent All right Thank you everyone We'll see you next week We stand adjourned
Good work See you fish fry