We'll call the Monday, December 8th, commission meeting to order. If you would please stand for the invocation and the pledge. >> Dear heavenly father, we ask that you give us wisdom to make the best decisions for the city of Leburg. In your precious name, amen. >> Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> We have no proclamations this evening. We do have two presentations. The first
one will be done by Miss Sandy Moore for the Leburg and Bloom update. Good evening, Commission Mayor. Uh, I'm here to talk a little bit about our Leburg and Bloom um initiative and kind of where we are and hopefully get your kind of um blessing to move
forward. So, if you'll notice, this first slide is actually our new logo. We try to take the existing city logo and then so that it kind of has a continuity to it. And then we added obviously Leburg and Bloom with the big magnolia flower up there.
So, next. Do I do this or do you do it? It says it's on. Can I go to the next slide? That's works. So, here's a couple of the projects. Um, I'm going to tell you a little bit more about the first three in the next slides, but these are some of the ones that we are kind of we have on the burner working toward. So,
storefront planner program. I'm going to tell you a little bit about that in the next slide. um our Leburg pollinator or library pollinator garden, a community garden, adopt a park. This is really we're trying to get groups uh whether they be businesses or civic groups to adopt our parks to really help kind of
keep the parks clean um in in some of the times when maybe our uh public works can't get there. Um street banners and um we're we are putting together a volunteer database for all of these projects. Some of the ones that are a
little bit bigger that are not, you know, at in directly coming are looking at gateway entry entrances um which would include neighborhood entrances and then also the big entrances into Leburg kind of making more of an iconic entrance into them um and just really
beautifying all of the corridors and then um murals. So if we go to the next slide, this is the um the storefront planner program and go ahead and go ahead and go to the very next one. So, for this program, what the intention is is the s we would actually with our with
the budget, we would um we would purchase these planters. And you'll see that there's two different types of planters. And these planters um they may not be those exact colors because there are some other colors that we can look at, but they have a a reservoir of water in them so that they don't have to be
you don't have to water them all the time. And the intention here would be that any business that would like to have one of these plants planters, they would actually fill out an application and um the planter would be free, but they would have to agree that they would
keep it watered, the planter watered, and then also that they would put the plants in the planter. Now, we will have uniform plants that we're going to be have give them as suggestions for each quarter. So they would have to change out the plants quarterly, but it would
be uniform so that the whole city would have the same kind of plans no matter where your your business might be. So whether you have a business in downtown Leburg or on, you know, any of the corridors, anywhere in Leburg and you would like to do this planner program, you would be eligible to do it. Um the
only other thing on the planner program is that we'll probably have a specific number each year that we can enter into the program. So it might be that we start with 20 planters and then this year if everybody all 20 go out the next year we'll put 20 more. So on and so
forth so that we can keep the cost down for how much we spend initially. Um if you want to go to the next slide um this is the the library pollinator garden. So, those of you who will remember when the library was first built, we actually had a butterfly
garden in the back and it was that was the intention of the library to have that butterfly garden back there. Um, over the years for just different reasons, um, it just kind of lost the pollinators. Um, so there's beautiful it looks nice back there, but it just doesn't have the, um, the the types of
flowers and things that attract butterflies. So, um, and bees and all of those kind of things. So this is one of the things that we want to reestablish that program. Um we feel like one it's also an educational opportunity for the library to have it there so they can
teach about that and the importance. Um it's obviously good for your environment as well. Um in addition to that we we're hoping to work with the Lake County Bee Association. We've already talked to them about the potential of putting hives on top of the library so that we
would have um that in in addition so that where you go up for help help desk on the second floor if you look behind there that's where the hives would be. So people could even see it see the hives from that second floor. So that would be the pollinator garden. We already have some community partners
with this uh Lowe's Improvement who already donated money so that and and well actually FL plants and things um that that got planted in in the town square that looks so nice. They have different um pots of money um that you
can apply for at different times. So, and they have to spend that. So they we've already talked to them about ut utilizing that for this pollinator garden and they're willing to donate seeds and plants and things of that nature for that once they come into stock because it's only certain times of
the year that they sell those types of plants. Um and then and then of course the Lake County Bee Association is the other community partner for for that. So this is one of those projects that hopefully can be done at very little cost actually out of any of our budget. Um so if we go to the next one is our
community garden. Um this is the first one that we'd like to start and this is our hope is that we would actually do multiple of these so that this will be successful and then we can move to different communities, different um neighborhoods within the city and possibly do these gardens. Uh so we have
a great uh we have a really good committee that is working on this. Of course, I'm just the the person that's doing this presentation, but one of our committee members is a master gardener and she's done a lot of these gardens in the schools already. So, we have a
really good idea of what we need. Um, this is just picture I got off. This is just a stock picture. So, but but it just kind of gives you the idea of the raised beds. Um, obviously we'll need volunteers to help with this. Um, it's a um we anticipate being able to do
possible farm-totable events. again educational opportunities where you can teach people um how to garden and also with our master gardeners teach teach some of the residents um or anybody who comes how to you know be able to garden in in minimal space so they don't have
to have like a huge yard to garden but they actually can grow some of their food even if they have small spaces. Um, the other thing that we're hoping to do with this is to address some food insecurities in that neighborhood so that you would actually be able to come and harvest at at times and be able to
get food from that garden um to go home. Um, some of the community partners that we've already identified for this ROMAC um lumber, they have already offered um to supply us with all of the wood and all of the supplies that we need to build all of those raised beds. uh black
cow fertilizer has is willing to donate the fertilizer for these in addition to also donating the fertilizer for those the planters that we talked about a little while ago. And then um the cap kappa alphasai fraternity they've als they've volunteered to help build the beds. So that's a big chunk of of being
able to build the beds in addition to other uh you know any other volunteers that we might recruit for this. So that's the other project we're really excited about hopefully getting that started in the spring so that like as soon as the you know it's good to to plant we can get this going and even
start to harvest by by the um summer. And then the the last thing um if you would like anybody that's here or any of our commissioner to follow us and connect with us on Facebook um at Leburg and Bloom and then if and that's just for more information or anybody who
would like to be involved in this um as well volunteering for any of the things. So are any questions? >> Thank you Sandy. Any commissioner comments or questions? >> Thank you Sandy for your hard work on this and I know we have a couple of the board members out there. So thank you for all your hard work on this. >> All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Next, we will move to the employee service award recognitions with Miss Melissa, our HR director. >> Good evening, mayor and commissioners. Melissa Ariyaga, director of human resources. So, we'll get started. I'd like to first say um and collectively
we're recognizing about a 100red years of service to the city by our employees. So, it's nice to do that and have family members and co-workers here to recognize them. So, we'll start off with our five-year. We'll start with um quite a few from police today. So, some of our
uh five years start off with Brendan Evans. He started in law enfor his law enforcement career here at LPD and he serves as a police officer. Congratulations, Congratulations. Next is Mr. David Mlan. Also, he came on board as an officer and serves as a
senior police officer in at Leburg PD. Congratulations. Next we have Mr. Christopher Moing who also he started his law enforcement career here with Leburg PD and he's ser currently serving as a corporal in the department. Congratulations Chris.
Moving on to our tenure awards. Very good. Oh, I'll do Okay, I'll do to Gabriel since Gabriel's no problem. We'll go move on to Gabriel White. Gabriel actually he previously worked for the police department and he recently
returned to our agency which is great and so collectively we're honoring him for 10 years of service to Leburg. Congratulations. Congratulations. And that's it for right now. You come back for the next ones.
[laughter] [gasps] We want to honor right now and recognize Mr. Ryan Owens. He started with the city as a firefighter and today he serves continues to serve LFD as a fire lieutenant. Congratulations, Ryan. Thank you, sir. >> Now, moving on to our 20 year awards,
Mr. Tim Patton. He started with facilities as a maintenance worker and today he continues to serve in facilities as our facilities maintenance lead. We see him quite often setting up for events and helping out. So >> congratulations Tim.
Next, Miss Sonia Schaefer. She started her career with the city in police and about 12 years ago she transitioned over to IT and she serves as the deputy IT director. Congratulations. Congratulations.
And lastly, our 25 year award goes to Mr. James Eric Green. He started in LPD in 2000 as a police officer and he continues to serve the community as a senior police officer. >> So, thank you and congratulations to the employees. >> Thank you, Miss Melissa. And thank you
to all of our employees that are the backbone of our city. Thank you. Next, we'll move to public comments. This section is reserved for members of the public to bring up matters of concern or opportunities for praise. Please note that issues raised during this time will not be discussed in detail during the current meeting. They
will either be referred to the appropriate staff or scheduled for consideration at a future city commission meeting. Each speaker is allocated three minutes to provide their comments, kindly adhere to this time limit to ensure equal opportunity for all participants and to support the efficient conduct of the meeting. Thank you. Are there any public comments this
evening? >> Seeing none on the you Mr. P. >> Good evening. My name is Bill Poke. Live at 600 Cascade Avenue in Leburg, Florida. Uh praise for the uh parade that we had Saturday night. It was a wonderful thing. I saw Allan and Al
handing out candy to all the kids and everything. That was good. Rotten their teeth out. But uh Mike, I didn't see you. It was too dark, you know. But um anyway, uh my concerns are the traffic in Leburg has been uh atrocious for some
time now. We continue to annex property in the city. And if you go to a restaurant or you walk down the street or you talk to your neighbors, they all complain about how the traffic is just stopping everybody from doing anything.
And I don't know if you're aware, if you buy a load of concrete today, they charge you more to deliver concrete in Leburg than they do in the county. The county, they have a delivery charge, and Leburg has
charged about 20% more than they do in the county. uh just because of the traffic issues. We continue to annex and annex and annex and we've talked about it. We've talked about it. Nothing's happened. You know, I don't know. The DOT is never here to talk to you about anything, I don't think, unless they're
talking in private. I've never seen them here. But uh you know, you need to get the DOT in here to try to get them to uh work with us and try to get them to advance these roads. You know, anybody that's tried to go from Leburg to Eustace on 44, y'all annexed all that
property. It's impossible. You try to go to Okahumpa, it's impossible. And I haven't talked to anybody in Leburg that hadn't complained about the traffic. So, you know, you can blame it on DOT, you can blame it on whoever you want to blame it on, but Leburg has to get
somebody in here to talk to them about trying to take care of these roads. And we're having to build new roads. But also, the roads that are in the town here now have potholes all over them. I don't know if the county is still giving us money for for our roads or not from
the gas tax, but that's what used to happen. So, I don't know where you're getting your money to do the roads, you'll see a patch that goes 20 ft to cover up a couple of potholes and then 20 ft past that you got more potholes. They don't they don't pave the entire roads all over the town and everything.
So, it'd be really a great thing if y'all could have a some kind of a summit or something about the roads with the public. You know, listening to the public is a good thing. I'm not sure that y'all have listened that well to the public about the traffic. Anybody
that has to go to work at from 5:00 till 9:00 in the morning down 27 or to the post office or anywhere to Oklahoma, I know Al has to drive that every day. He's coming from Claremont. It ain't no fun. And it's it's gotten to be where it's dangerous now. Just sitting at the
gas station on the corner at the Circle K, I've seen about a wreck every time I go there. And I don't go there that often, but you know, there's a wreck there on every corner. So, my time's up. Thank you. >> Good evening. I'm Ely [snorts] Dennis. I
live in Legacy in um Leburg. I'm here to discuss the communities which have been approved over the past couple years. This is not a complaint, so relax. Don't get charged up. [laughter and gasps] I actually am here to discuss a sustainability impact assessment for
each of these projects. As I'm sure you're aware, this assessment evaluates the environmental, social, and economic effects of proposed projects or plans ensuring informed decision making for long-term sustainability.
Among these issues, just to name a few, are roads, schools, medical facilities, jobs availability, business opportunity, civil protection, fire, police, water supply and protection, possible flooding and pollution resulting from
overbuilding. Now, we have seen the approvals over the years, but we have not seen any of the plans for support or sustainability of this expansion into this city. There will be a time lag between the build start and the hopeful sales of
those buildings. This of course would delay new property tax coming into the city and your everinccreasing fire assessment fee. I know this commission wouldn't approve all this development without the sustainability assessments done prior to each approval. Since I am
sure of their availability, I would respectfully request a meeting or town hall be held shortly after the new year to review and discuss these documents. Thank you. Any other public comments? Seeing none, we'll close public comments and move to
the consent agenda. Routine items are placed on the consent agenda to expedite the meeting. If the commission or staff wish to discuss any item, the procedure is as follows. One, pull the items from the consent agenda. Two, vote on the remaining items with one roll call vote and three, discuss. Are there any items the commission would like to pull this
evening? None. If I could get a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> So moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call. >> Commissioner Connell? [clears throat]
>> Yes. >> Commissioner Bur? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry? >> Yes. >> Mayor Reeseman? >> Yes. We'll move on to public hearings and non-rine items. During public hearings and non-rine items, the commission request that those in attendance respect the process and maintain order. As such, in accordance with Robert's rules of order, please
refrain from speaking out, cheering, or applauding during these proceedings. Your cooperation helps ensure a fair and respectful hearing. I would at this time now that if our city attorney would swear in anyone speaking on this evening's uh first readings or second readings. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good evening, everyone. And if anybody is here tonight
to speak on uh 6A4 Legacy Commerce SPUD resoning uh second reading or first reading SB2 Dominium Apartments SPUD resoning. If you would please stand, raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that all testimony you'll give tonight will be the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth. I do. >> All right. Thank you all. >> Thank you. City attorney, would someone please introduce 6 A1? >> I'll introduce and ask be read by title only, please. Thank you. An ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, changing
the zoning on approximately 103.14 plus minus acres from City of Leburg PUD to City of Leburg PUD planned unit development to allow for 294 single family detached units consisting of 24150T
lots and 53 60 ft lots for property during located east of County Road 48 and north of North Austin Merritt Road lying in section 32, Township 20 South, Range 24 East, Lake County, Florida, and providing an effective date.
>> Move for approval. >> Second. >> A motion and a second. Any discussion from the commission? Mr. Miller. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. Dan Miller, planning and zoning. This is the banning 5PUD project. It is a reszoning only 103 plus
or minus acres generally located on the east side of County Road 48 north of Austin Merit Road. The request is for future approval for future development of a 294 single family dwelling unit uh small community there.
Under this request, the application would go from as stated plan unit development to plan unit development with revised conditions. If approved by the com city commission, this project will interconnect County Road 33 and 48
via the developments that run from the west side on 48 all the way back to 33. Staff did reach out today to see if there's any additional comments from Lake County. We haven't heard from them yet, but we will update the commission upon receipt of those. under the city
departments had no um issues with this request in the it is outside the Leburg electric area. The school board did note that it was it that a mitigation agreement would likely be required. Um we did get one response to the ads and letters um concerns about water supply
pollution, wildlife habitat, and increased traffic. Now, previously this project was known as the Zelwood property. Um the current PUD is expired. It allowed a total of 300 units as compared to the request tonight which is for 294. In that previous zoning, just
to give you a comparison, it was broken down into 152 town homes and 148 single families. So, what you're getting is essentially the same density difference by six units. So, it's statistical at that point. [cough and clears throat] Under the terms of the proposed PUB
agreement, there is again the 294 single family units, no other uses. The site plan would allow for the exterior lots to be 60 feet wide, 7500 foot lot size, minimum house size of 1700 feet. The interior lots would be 50 ft wide with
minimum 1,600 square ft homes and 6250 square ft lot sizes. The project proposal does include design standards, including selecting five design features for each building frontage that come out
of the uh design standards in the PUB. There also buffers required all the way around the project. Of course, dark sky lighting, 35% open space minimum, and a landscaping plan. The maximum height is two two floors, uh, which is consistent
with all the other developments in the area on that. And of course, excuse [clears throat] me, the usual bea or bermuda grass required in place of St. Augustine. Uh there is site access through there, one access point. Um because county road 48 there is under
Lake County authority, the developer is required to provide any and all upgrades, changes, widenings, turn lanes, signalization, anything like that that's required by Lake County and our PUDs are written to support that. Um there is 1.35 acres of recreational uses
that are required. Uh that would be a primary recreational area with three amenities. In other words, it would include a pool plus two more features such as some barbecue grills, play areas, ball courts, picnic tables, something like that. Um the utilities
are provided by the city with the exception of electric and I forget which um electric service would be down in that area, but there would be no wells or septic. it would all be on city water and wastewater. Um [clears throat] at the present time uh the departments are noting that there is capacity to serve
the development. Finally, there is a phasing or expiration clause which would require this development to move forward within 48 months or it would revert to the RE1 zoning standards. Again, it would remain a PUD zoning. It's just the standards would now go to one acre per
unit. Uh the the this request was recommended for denial by a vote of 4 to one at the planning commission and they cited lot sizes density wanting more open space. Um with that I have Mr. Logan Offsell of Lawn Louns Drossstick
Caner and Reed Law Firm in Orlando to represent the case and answer any other questions you may have >> before we go to the developer. Any questions for Dan? >> Dan, so this this is an existing PUD. Has it expired? >> Yes, sir. Expired several years ago.
>> Okay. Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. >> We're still waiting to hear from the county. We did not hear >> they normally send back the the standard comments. We just called we contacted them today to see if there were any additional con uh additional comments
that they wanted to add. So, that was that was what that was about. Talk about the roadway. >> Commissioner, since we talked, we haven't heard from >> Seeing no other questions. the developer. Would you like to have make your presentation? >> Yes. Thank you. Andrew Macau of GI
Consultants. I'm not from Louns and I'm not an attorney. [laughter] No worries. No worries. Uh our offices are at 618 East South Street, Orlando, Florida, representing um the uh Handoverland Group tonight. Uh so uh I
do have a a presentation here, but it is almost identical to the one you saw last time. So, I figured we wouldn't go through everything again. Here to answer any questions uh you had, but I know since uh the last hearing, the topic of
the spine road and uh the traffic uh has come up since then. So, if you could go to slide six, we can speak from that slide. Yep, this is it. So, um, again, just as a reminder, the spine road that goes, um, all the way through all of the
the five banning phases from 48 to 33. Um, as as we discussed last time, there was some potential concern on a number of fronts regarding this spine road, such as potentially speed since there were houses and neighborhoods that that
front on this road and intersect with this road. and also um truck traffic was brought up at that time and um and so um we would like to kind of address each one of those items here tonight and any
other items that that the commission would like to discuss. So um handover obviously they they understand the concerns about the uh potential speed uh connecting between those two roads though this is an alternative route. Um
we would not classify this as any kind of a cutth through. Uh the road is pretty circuitous and there will be stop signs and and other types of of traffic calming uh measures implemented on this road. And of course, we can discuss the
specifics about any of those traffic calming methods that would be acceptable to staff uh and the commission as the project moves forward through the permitting process. Uh but to keep the speeds down on the road, it's just a two-lane road. So, it's not designed to
be uh a wide fast road. Uh and so speeds um will be kept to neighborhood level speeds along the course of the road. uh and um any of those um additional measures that would give the commission comfort um in those regards, we are
happy to discuss those. Um but obviously there there will be there will be um measures taken along the road to reduce those speeds. Um so any other comments? We we're happy to address those. >> Any other comments for the developer?
I I thought in the first reading, I guess when I look at this and I think of other developments not even this large, I thought the I call that a boulevard. I thought it was a four-lane boulevard. You said two lane. >> I don't I believe it's a two lane, >> commissioner. It's a it's designed to be boulevard entry. So, you'll have the
four lanes at the at 48 and 33 where you enter into the subdivision and then those pinch down into two. So, the boulevard entries for an ingress egress off on 48 and 33. >> And I thought I'd seen I guess I thought in some prior developments that the four
lanes extended often times through the entire development. I just look at that road. I I just assumed it was a four-lane road. >> Well, if you look at the picture, you know, in the PUD, it implies that there is four lanes. uh like
I forget the so it's like on page 22 of that uh that document that's in in the packet. Um, you know, it's it makes it look like but that's just 8
feet of uh the entryways at 48 and 33. I'm not sure where to start here. Um, I I hear the comments from the public. Uh, I I'm hearing them everywhere I go.
um the and we can talk about that another day, but I guess when I look at this development, if we've done one through four, I feel like five I hope will help a little bit take pressure off of uh 33 and 470. So, this one is tough,
but I think there's some pot if you've done one through four, I feel like you almost have to do five, and I don't take that comment lightly, but uh I'll just throw that out. Any other commissioner comments? All right, we're going to open it up to public comments at this time.
>> If there was one other item I could bring up before we do that. So, if you can go to the next to the last slide. I just wanted to remind the commission we had um the next to the last slide. Yeah. Go back one. Yep. This one. So, um
I had brought this up at at the previous hearing as well regarding the u minimum lot depth and we were requesting that to be changed from the draft ordinance that you received um from 125 to 115 and also the subsequent um changes to the minimum
lot sizes. So, the the depth and then the overall lot sizes. And that was it. I just wanted to remind get that back on the record and happy to answer any other questions. The full team is here with u traffic and if you have any other questions. All
right. Thank you. We're going to open up to public comments. If you have any public comments, I would ask that you form a line at the podium. Please state your name and address for the record. Thank you. >> Ready for public comments? >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> So, you're going to have 50 foot lots.
You're going to have 50 foot lots, sir. 50s and 60s. >> 50 foot lots. >> 15. >> Okay. So, and you're going to have 294 homes. >> When is Leburg going to try to do a subdivision that you can plant a tree between a house? What are we doing? I
mean, you know, this is going to be bump bump bump, all the same color, maybe four different colors like he said. Uh, and then he's going to uh have a two-lane highway or two-lane road coming between that. So, it's not going to leave any traffic between 48 and 33. I mean, if you're going to go 25 miles an
hour, 35 mph at the most, uh, all the villages roads are fourlane and they got 35 up there and it moves right along. But you got 25 35 and stop signs all along the way. You're not, nobody's going to go down that road. 33 is still going to be crammed up like it is now
all the way back to to AB Merit Road. So when are we going to try to make a decent subdivision that has decent size lot 50 foot there's one lot where I live in Palmore Parker two lots one is 50 foot and one is 55 ft and the house is
about this wide and there's nothing in between them. I mean, you know, why don't we do something beautifification lady that just left, I guess, and you know, we're trying to beautify Leburg. That's not beautifying it. Have it boom, boom, boom, boom. House the same roof, same color. Every other house is a green
roof, and the one is brown roof or whatever. You know, that's not beautifying Leburg. Let's get a decent subdivision in here and make it right. And plus, if you can go back some slides to show uh the property right there is fine. uh that you got a lot of green
area down there that and I've been out on that property quite a bit. Uh Jack Banning who sold the property was in my office for 20 years and we went down there bunches of times. It's it's swamp land down in there. So, you know, I mean, he's going to address that probably. And and you got a bridge going
across water somewhere in there. I don't know where it's at now on that piece on that slide, but there's a bridge going across some water down there. Uh you know, you've got environmental issues down there like crazy. eagles, gophers, deer, turkeys, all kind of wildlife down
there and you're going to put houses on 50ft lots down there. You know, I would if anything I mean you could, you know, increase the size of the lots and make it look pretty cuz you can't hardly plant an Isaiah that's not going to get 5 foot wide and that's about what you're going to be between the houses 5 foot
wide or maybe 10t at the most. And it's just it's not going to help beautify a Leburg at all. You know, you got wetlands down there. You got all kind of uh environmental issues down there. And the road's not going to help alleviate any traffic on Highway 33 whatsoever.
Thank you. >> Any other public comments? We're going to close public comments and bring it back to the developer if you have any final words. >> Yeah, I would like to respond to some of the comments uh from the gentleman. So, I think the notion that you can't get a
a decent subdivision with 50-foot lots is is just is not true. Um, some of the most desirable neighborhoods in the entire region have 50 foot lots and smaller and incorporate town homes and all other types of units. Think of of communities like Balden Park, like Lake
Nona. Um, just examples all over uh the region, including in downtown Leburg. Um there are are many examples of well landscaped, welldesigned, well implemented neighborhoods like that all
over the the region. So don't don't take uh 50 foot lots as an indication of a poor [clears throat] quality subdivision or poor poor quality design. >> Can I bring it back to the commission for any final comments? >> Uh yes. [clears throat]
>> Yes, sir. I'm going to bring up again, but feel like I've beat a dead horse over the last five years, but I've been talking about traffic problems in this town for 5 years, and it continues [clears throat] to get worse because we
continue to annex and reszone property. This [clears throat] is down again on 3348, two-lane roads. The intersection of 48, 33, and 470 is awful. Awful. I mean, there's there's a conceptual plan
by the county out there to somewhat address it. It's not going to do a lot. Maybe a couple turn lanes, but it will help. But we can't keep annexing property on these roads and dumping all this traffic on these two-lane roads, all being funneled back to the same
intersection. That is is awful. I mean, what's happening is people are cutting through now off of 33 down Industrial. They're going down industrial to Mike to to >> Worm Farm >> to Worm Farm Road, then hanging a left
back to I mean that's becoming a major cut through there. I I just don't believe we should annex any more property or in this particular case approve any more development on these roads until at least that intersection has been properly addressed and
completed. We're just creating a bigger and bigger problem every time we do this. And I I I really hope the commission takes this in consideration on this vote. We don't need any more traffic down there until these roads and intersections are addressed.
>> Any other comments? >> I want to say I I I do respect Commissioner Canel's comments. Yeah, we haven't been in agreement for years. I said earlier, you know, we um >> we have a lot to talk about. Um, I view this one a little bit differently just because, you know, we did one through
four and and I'm struggling, but that that's what sways me a little bit on this one, but I I just I guess I want to re telegraph to my fellow commissioners. I am open to any and all ideas. Uh, and we do need to talk about it. It it is the talk of the town. Um,
I was going to say a few things, but uh I'll stop right there. My comment on this is that uh this is like another project uh the Sunnyside project. This is a a PUD that has expired that's in the city of Leburg.
Property's already here. Our planning and zoning people have said this is what you can build. It's within our comp plan and it will be the same result if we say no to it. we can expect the same thing
to happen that happened with the Sunnyside property and that's >> Thank you for that clarification. Speak for the audience just clarify about on the annexation is the issue. >> So there's a neighborhood in Sunnyside that's not developed yet but that was in
the city of Leburg that had an existing PUD to be built that was never built. The PUD expired, somebody else bought the PUD. Same scenario as this. Came to our planning and zoning people,
worked within our comp plan, got the design, and we said no. And then we got sued and the special magistrate told us we would didn't have a case. So, uh, you know, I don't see any difference
in this. We, you know, we'd be wasting taxpayer money because we're we're going to be on the losing end of it. I have a question please. I'd like to ask um it's unfortunate that we um have done the various phases of the banning and also
it's unfortunate that we have not heard back from the county as far as the roads which that's not city roads. [clears throat] Is it a possibility that we could table this? >> Until we get further information. I think this is a really I mean this is hard. I'm listening. I understand. And I
respect everybody's comments about the traffic. The city is growing. Um, growth is good. Unfortunately, the roads aren't going with the with the road with the development. Unfortunately, um, that would be my suggestion and I can open it to put it into
>> and I want to come back to your your comment. I I don't want to go sideways on you. I just want to piggyback off of Commissioner Bur's comment. Um the issue is if we turn down an annexation, we are shielded from I say shielded, you know, we have limited liability, but in this
case, he's correct. We have we do have legal liability here if it meets all our code. We all learned a valuable lesson in Sunnyside. And I appreciate you bringing that up because this is a similar situation where it's already in the city. Um and the case law went
against us on that one. And we did end up settling that one after fighting it uh for a year, a year or two. >> Just to kind of hit on that standard again, if somebody, you know, if a property owner does
demonstrate that they meet the code with their application, then it's on the city to bring up information and evidence that would rebut uh their ability to develop the property as as it's done. And typically, that would be done through expert testimony. In this instance, the expert testimony would is
coming from staff or from the developer side. And so with a staff recommendation of approval um and that it meets the code and all the requirements in the code, it's more challenging to to turn that down. Uh certainly and and I think that the
Sunnyside example is a reasonable example to to bring up as to how that has played out in the past. But basically, you're going to need evidence to refute that uh that this is a good plan that that works within the code. And in the absence of that evidence,
then there would be a lack of competent substantial evidence uh to refute and rebut the developer's position. I want to touch base. Thank you, Commissioner Murray, for bringing that up and for Grant for the clarification. Dan, the only thing we're waiting from the county was just additional comments.
There was no like >> Yes, sir. That is correct. So, they did all their they looked over everything. We just asked them for additional comments. >> That's correct. >> Okay. >> And correct me if I'm wrong. I believe we already tabled this one one time over Is this the one we tabled over? Okay.
Was that a different one? Okay. >> I do have one other request that on this property. I would like uh the whole banning uh project to be in a community development district which the PUD indicates that uh you guys are willing
to to move in that direction and I would think that would uh make the development itself more responsible for their roads >> if um let the develop >> if we need to formally accept that uh
requirement of the entire project all I'm sorry Ben Snder Hanoverland Company 605 Commonwealth Avenue Orlando 3283 Yes sir we [clears throat] uh plan on putting the entire banning development all five phases in a single CDD
>> in the first reading I learned something I I pushed back and asked if the developer could maintain the road and I was told it was a city road if there's a CD CDC will they maintain the road CDD I'm sorry I get all these acronyms is mixed up. Uh, yes, it's community community development district. Uh, I'm
looking at my dad Miller. Okay. A CDD comes under chapter 190 of the state statutes and they can be written in a multitude of ways. So, if you wanted that road to be in there, it could be. >> And that's what we for my vote, I would want. >> Yeah. Uh,
the reason I hesitated I' I'd probably rather see that money spent on the roads on 33 and 48 is why I hesitated, but I'll let my fellow commissioners chime in. >> Is I have one more question. Is it May I ask? Can you explain is it necessary to
have the road to go through? It's just joining from each phase to another. I mean, I'm I know you're the developer, but can you explain the purpose just to drive through? From a planning perspective, it is uh good to have the phases interconnected so that traffic
can flow in both directions. From a utility perspective, it's good to have the lines, the trunk lines on 48 connected to 33 for um uh looping. Um, and so, um, it's just from an infrastructure standpoint, it's
objectively a better plan to create a subdivision that's and development that's interconnected with multiple county roads rather than one entrance or, you know, subdivisions, dead-end subdivisions. That's objectively bad planning.
>> Yeah. And and another addition to that would be the amenities. The amenities for all of the phases are shared. So they are scattered throughout the the entire development, but they're not procluded from using any of the amenities across all five phases. So if
there was a break in any of the lines, you'd be [laughter] you'd be going around to access any of the others. >> Mr. do it. >> Our our comprehensive plan uh Commissioner Barry requires us to have interconnectivity between different subdivisions
>> and I can't find a way to not interconnect these subdivisions. So, >> okay. Thanks. >> Any final comments from the commission now? Sorry. >> Just uh back to Commissioner Bur's comment. The CDD requirement, we I don't
think we've ever put one of those in to the PUD. This PUD has some of the older language where where dedication is left open. Um more some of our more recent PUDs clearly state that we will accept
dedication of infrastructure. This one has the old language where it's open where it says the city may. So it's not a guarantee. So if there's a requirement for a CDD, I would think we probably should put an extra paragraph in there, an amendment
to the PUD, and make that paragraph 16G, which would be uh that something like the city commission will require the development of a CDD for development and future maintenance of infrastructure. You agree with that, Grant? >> Yeah, I do agree with that. I think we can
>> to make such a motion. We'll add that >> and we can add that. would be a motion to amend on the floor there. >> Yes. >> And then we can add that language after the meeting. >> Yes. That would that would be my [clears throat] >> that would be my motion.
>> Yes. So we have Commissioner Bur who made a motion amended motion >> and that's paragraph six to add paragraph 16G the requirement of the creation of a CDD for development and future maintenance
of PUD infrastructure for banning 1 through five. >> I'll second it. >> Did you grant Did you see my slip there? >> So I'm referencing back banning one through five. So, we have a motion and a second on the
floor. >> We also we have that motion, so we got to deal with it, but we also probably need to if we're going to change the 125 to 115, we need that probably >> I would recommend you leave it where it's at. That's the the bigger lots.
They're asking for you to make it smaller. The language in there is um paragraph. I just looked it up after he said that to see where we were at. So the PUD as being considered, so you do what you will, okay? But the PUD as
considered is paragraph, it's paragraph 4 E one 4E1 D, which requires that the minimum size be 6250. They were asking that you reduce 6250.
Hold on. Yep. They were asking you to reduce those sizes. So the draft of the ordinance is still with that first bullet. It's 6250 for 50 foot lots and 17 7500 for 60 foot lots. So they're
asking you that you make that a tick smaller. So you would if you want to oblige that request, you need to amend this. I would definitely make a motion to amend that. If you don't want to oblige the request and keep the lots a little bit larger, then approve the PUD
as presented. >> Okay. >> What what they're doing net effect is they're taking >> 10 feet off the back of each. >> Yeah. They're making the lot a tick smaller. >> So, but but let's deal with you. You got a motion to amend on the floor to add paragraph 16G. Correct.
>> Any further discussion on that? Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call on the Well, I have another question. The the the the motion on the floor is to amend >> to add to the PUD another section. >> No, >> that's but that doesn't have anything.
Well, >> the motion on the floor is to add paragraph 16G requiring that the PUD put together a CDD for banning phases one through five >> to develop and maintain infrastructure
in the future. All right. So, we're going to vote on that first before we vote on the PUD. >> Yes. >> Because it's an amendment to the PUD. >> Okay. All right. >> So, a yes vote on this doesn't mean you're approving the PUD. >> All right. So, any further discussion on
the amended motion? >> Roll call. >> Commissioner Bur? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Mr. Barry? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Conell? >> Yes. >> Mayor Reeseman? >> Yes. Now, we need to go back to the original motion on the floor. Well, unless you want to consider the lot changes.
>> Yes. So, uh maybe Dan, can you tell me that I mean why why the lot change? What the uh >> Yeah, staff is always trying to get the largest lots we can get.
And the developers want smaller lots. >> Okay. >> That's the staff. >> That's that's that is respectfully that is the answer. Um, >> well, I'll ask the same question of of the developer. Why the amendment? Why do you want to change that?
>> You know, honestly, most of our lots are 120 125 anyway. We like the flexibility to go to 115 when we're working around wetlands, you know, so that we don't end up having to impact the wetlands and then pay to mitigate them or, you know, whatever. So, it's really just for a
very limited number of lots where we're skirting around wetlands or whatever and so that we're not, you know, pushing pushing lots in the wetlands or, you know, but but the majority of the lots will be designed as 125 12125 anyway.
We just I would appreciate the flexibility. That's it. If we are going to do it, maybe we put a number on it, you know, just, you know, a small number on it or just or leave it like it is. It's up. >> The staff recommendation is you leave it like it is. >> That's a developer problem.
>> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, any other further discussion on the original motion? Seeing none, roll call on the original motion on the floor. >> As amended. >> As amended. >> Commissioner Peterson. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry.
>> Yes. Commissioner Connell, >> no. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Mayor Reeseman, >> yes. >> Would someone please introduce 6 A2 3 and 4 to be read by title only? >> I'll introduce and ask to be read by title only.
6 A2 an ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, enexing certain real property consisting of approximately 7.3 plus minus acres, being generally located west of US Highway 27 and north of University Avenue, lying in section 24,
Township 20 South, range 24 East Lake County, Florida, provided that said property so annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said city. providing that such annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had
been a part of the city of Leburg at the time of passage and approval of said laws and ordinances providing such annex territory shall be placed in city commission district 3 and providing an effective date 63 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the
comprehensive plan of the city of Leburg changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing 7.3 3 plus minus acres from Lake County urban low to city leburg general commercial for property generally located west of US highway 27
and north of University Avenue lying in section 24 township 20 south range 24 east lake county Florida and providing an effective date 64 an ordinance of the city of Leburg Florida changing the zoning on
approximately 7.3 plus minus acres from Lake County Agriculture to City of Leburg Spud small planned unit development to allow for 50,200 square ft of multi-use office warehouse buildings for a property generally
located west of US Highway 27 and north of University Avenue lying in section 24 township 20 south range 24 East Lake County, Florida and providing an effective date. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Mr.
Miller. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is the legacy commerce project. Uh, this is consists of an annexation smallcale comp plan and reszoning of 7.3 plus or minus undeveloped acres. It's a general located on the west side of US Highway
27 as you can see up here on the map. Um, and north of University Avenue. This is for a commercial type um industrial commercial type development. There's no residences in here. Um 50,200
square ft of multi-use/off warehouse type buildings. Under the f under the o overall proposal, there'd be the first the annexation and the future land use which would go from Lake County urban to city general commercial and then the zoning application would request going from
Lake County a to city of Leburg small planned unit development. There were no public responses to the ads and letters that we had. Um, Lake County had no comments. They responded with a no comment comment. And uh, under the terms
of the SPUD agreement, it would be 50,200 ft of multi-use office and warehouse buildings on the 7.3 acres. That would include offices, warehouses, many warehouses, industrial flex space, indoor light manufacturing, building trades and contractors with indoor stub,
indoor storage such as um things for electricians, plumbers, AC contractors. And then of course daycare and private school as the location is near residential development. There are design standards including screening of mechanical equipment and the standard
35% open space, dark skies, lighting, landscape plan, etc. Two floors is the maximum height and excuse me. Um access is shown on the site plan which is in your packet. There's only one needed. Um the developer would be required to make
any and all upgrades to Highway 27 there, which is more than likely just going to be a del lane improvement if anything. Um utilities would be on city water and wastewater, no wells or septics, and it has the 4-year substantial commencement clause. The
attorney JD Bicklme is here for any questions you may have. >> I do have a quick question, Dan. Is any of the residential property um border fenced? >> I'm sorry, M. >> Any of the residential property fenced that borders the res the mobile home park?
>> Um generally when you have a residential to a commercial, we're going to require a fence in the PD. >> I didn't see the options. Okay. Thank you. Yes, sir. >> JB Burkmire, 17032 John Lake Drive, Winter Garden, Florida 34. Anyway, um sorry about my voice. I'm
coming off Bruce surgery, so it's a little weak still. Are there any questions I can answer for the board? >> Any questions from the commission? >> Seeing none, >> we'll take We [clears throat] have no questions at this time. We're going to open it up for public comments. Are there any public comments on these on
this item? >> Seeing none, we're going to close public comments. Any final commission comments before we move? Seeing none, roll call on 62. Commissioner Barry, >> yes. >> Commissioner Conell,
>> yes. [clears throat] >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Mayor Reeseman, >> yes. >> Would someone please make a motion to approve 683? >> So moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second on the floor. Any discussion? Any public
comments? Seeing none, roll call on 683. >> Commissioner Conell, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. >> Mayor Reese, >> yes. Can I get a motion for 6 A4? >> Motion to approve 6A4. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any
discussion? >> Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call. >> Commissioner Bur? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry? >> Yes. Commissioner Conell? >> Yes. >> Mayor Reeseman? >> Yes. Would someone please introduce 65? I'll introduce and ask be read by title
only, please. An ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, amending chapter 25 of the COD ordinances to create section 25-165 establishing procedures for requests for reasonable accommodation for certified recovery residence residences and other
persons with disabilities. Providing for purpose application review, appeal and enforcement procedures. Providing for annual reertification. Providing for inclusion in the code of ordinances. Providing for conflicts. providing for severability and providing an effective
date. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> We have a motion in a second. Any discussion? Seeing none, any public comments? Seeing none, roll call on 685. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. Commissioner Po, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Mayor Reeseman, >> yes. Would someone please introduce 6B1 and two? I introduce NA has to be read by title only. 6B1, an ordinance amending the future
land use map of a comprehensive plan of the city of Leburg, changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing 18.71 plus minus acres from city of Leburg low density residential and general commercial to city of Leburg general commercial for
property generally located west of US highway 27 and north of Palm Drive lying in section 2, township 20 south, range 24 east, Lake County, Florida, and provid providing an effective date 6B2, an ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, changing the zoning on
approximately 18.71 plus minus acres from City of Leburg PUD to City of Leburg PUD planned unit development to allow for 276 multifamily units for property generally located west of US Highway 27 and north of Palm Drive lying
in section 2, Township 20 South, range 24 East, Lake County, Florida, and providing an effective date. >> Thank you, Andy. >> Just for clarification, these are first readings and they will lay over till January 12th. Mr. Miller. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is for the Dominium apartment project. Again, small
scale comp plan and reszoning for the 18.71 acres. As our clerk indicated, it's uh on the west side of Yes, Highway 27, north of Palm Drive and Armoyan and south of CR25A for the proposals for future development of an apartment
complex consisting of 276 multif family units. The future land use request is to go from general commercial and low density to general commercial and the zoning application for the project is requesting a change from PUD to PUD with
revised conditions. uh no substantial substantiative comments from the city departments. Uh the school board has noted that the applicant will be required to obtain a school concurrency reservation in order to reserve capacity and if at the time of development if
adequate capacity is not available they would then be subject to a mitigation agreement. Lake County Public Works did not have any comments on this project. Um we did receive a couple of written responses to the ads and letters. The concerns were significant alteration of the character of the neighborhood,
increased traffic noise and light pollution, increased crime, concerns about storm water runoff, and then additional noise, loose pets, and children walking around. Under the terms of the SPUD agreement, the proposal again, 276 multif family units on the
18.71 acres. Um, I believe if it hasn't changed, it's 2, three, and four bedroomedroom units provided in 800, 900, and 1,000 square foot sizes. Um project proposal does have design standards. There are 25 foot undisturbed buffers all the way around. There's a 4-
foot tall earthen burm along US Highway 27 and 25A County Road 25A which is supplemented with plantings on the top of the burm to provide a visual and noise buffer. Opaque fencing is required where the property is adjacent to residential
areas. Um then we have our 35% open space, dark skylighting, code compliant landscaping and beer bermuda grass. Maximum height on the building is three floors. There are facade samples of the proposal in your packet. There is access shown on
the site plan which is one primary access point and one emergency access point on the more on the south and east side of the project. Um, the PUD, excuse [clears throat] me, does require the developer to provide all of the
necessary upgrades to the roadways as required by FDOT or Lake County. 1.3 acres must be in recreational land, which will include swimming pool, children's playground, and a dog park. All utilities are on city water, waste
water, all no wells and septic. And then there's the phasing and expiration clause. Um, there are a couple of different site plans that they may wish to talk about this evening that would impact the parking ratios. So, I want to bring that up. Mr. Mayor, >> any questions for Dan? [clears throat]
Dan, I do have one. What? Yes, sir. The original PUD that was approved, what was it for? >> The original Originally, the property had two PUDs on it. One was for assisted living, which had 250 beds on it plus some commercial on the east side. So,
the assisted living was on the west side of the property. It was two separate PUDs that came in around I believe 2006 or 2008 I believe I believe you were working over there at that time. [laughter] Uh but yes sir it had u some commercial
development on the east portion of the property proposed and then 250 beds of assisted living on the western portion of the property. >> So there was no residential approved as part of the original PED. >> I believe that is correct. >> Thank you sir. Any other questions for
Dan? >> Yeah, I had one to answer. You said uh there would be two exits, but one is only emergency. >> That is correct. >> So is that what we're expecting then is all traffic from this will dump on to 25. >> It will come out on 25 to 27, excuse me,
2527. Yes sir. >> What if you want to go north? >> I believe you can still pull on 25A. Go north on that >> if I'm not mistaken. If I if I saw the site plan correctly and it's >> I just thought the uh the 25 moving
south there is no way to get north from you know they would have to go north on 25 up. >> Do you have a presentation >> or go right and do you >> uh the applicant does have a presentation if we need to look at that. >> Let the applicant do the presentation >> and >> Yes sir.
>> And this time it is Logan Opsel. Good evening. Logan Obsol 215 North Yola Drive. Uh thank you Dan. Um I'll talk briefly about uh property uh the project some of the specifics we have um and then briefly about uh Dominium uh the
proposed applicant developer on this property as well. Um before I dive into the substance of my conversation, I'll have uh introduce Glenn Daniels with Dominium to just give a brief overview of who they are and what they do. Yeah, thank you, Logan. Thank you, commissioners. I'm Glenn Daniels with
Dominium, 375 Northridge Road, Sweet 500, Sandy Springs, Georgia 30350. Um, I'm here today with Dominium. Uh, Dominium is one of the largest owner, operators, and developers of attainable housing in the nation. We've been in the
business for 50 years and in Florida alone, we've been working and owning and operating uh over 33 apartment communities currently for over a decade. Um I want to speak to to you today to to
kind of introduce us. This is our first time working in the city of Leburg and we want to be partners working through the uh the PUD that's proposed. So, um, in Florida alone, we have over 7,500
apartment homes housing over 14,000 residents. And I I stress that we want to partner with the city of Leburg. We understand that uh, you know, the city wants to maintain um, compatibility and
neighborhood compatibility, and we're here for that as well. Uh, we are not a developer that builds, sells, and leaves. We're a developer that comes and and stays and owns and operates our properties for at least 15 years. So, with that being said, I'll I'll pass it
back to Logan, but looking forward to the partnership with the city of Lesburg. >> Thank you, Glenn. So, we'll talk project specifics here. Um here's an overview of the property. Uh Dan showed you it's an assemblage uh totaling about 18 acres
and some change. Um, it was previously annexed in 2011 and we referenced some of the previous entitlements which I'll discuss as well. So, we're here on the PUD and and what you see is kind of a rendering and I have a few of them to show you of of of
what's being uh proposed. Uh, this fully amenitized residential community. Uh, these are really type class A amenities. And the benefit of having uh these types of uses is that quite frankly we know that across the state specifically
central Florida uh is is an affordability and housing uh crisis and and having a company like Dominium be able to come in partner with cities uh and provide for these types of developments uh that are fully amenitized uh we see as an asset across
the central Florida region. And I'll talk a little bit more about this project specifically um and then how uh those parameters work. This is a conceptual rendering uh of of the community. Um and you could also search and and see that these are similarly
situated uh several built out across the state. Um that this is a a competitive market, right? folks that want to uh they have uh limitations which I'll talk to talk to about uh income and and rent.
So that these are folks such as school teachers, firefighters, police officers who move into these communities and stay. Um Dan mentioned the layouts. We have four bedrooms, three bedrooms, two bedrooms. Just to give you a little bit of idea of what those rents look like on the four
bedrooms, $1,834. On the threebedrooms, $1,644. And on the twobedrooms, $1,423. And I'll talk a little bit more about that. History of the property uh previously approved. It had a commercial
and office park component as well as uh what we saw in in the ordinance uh previous ordinance that is expired, 305 assisted living residents. Uh so those two uses on the property that's again part of the uh expired PUB ordinance.
City of Leburg zoning map uh again it's was annexed back in 2011 under the PUD. So that's what's indicated on the screen there with a kind of a split future land use of that general commercial. So comparing the two [clears throat] that's that's would what equate to a
highway commercial underlying zoning and just some of the uses that are there some institutional like your government facilities you put a school and church there some utilities but you also have what was previously approved like your you know well excuse me this is adult daycare facility there is group living a
multif family allowable use hotel motel vehicle sales so those are types of the uses um under that underlying future land use on the commercial front. Uh this is language that's borrowed from the code. This is for PUD. So what we have here is this infill area. Uh that
really requires an innovative site plan and and a flexible approach to the buildout, which I'm going to touch on as well. This is what the property looks like today. You've seen in your staff report, there's some structures out there uh pretty dilapidated um in their
condition. Uh some storage, there's some dumping ground areas. Um, so not ideal. The proposed site plan, this is what's taken. This is the conceptual uh plan. This is taken from the planned development ordinance itself. That's
part of your packet. Um, what I'm going to present as part of our ask is uh change to the parking that's in the ordinance itself. Your code requires two units an acre. Excuse me, two two parking spaces per unit. um
several uh jurisdictions throughout kind of have different parameters as it relates to these types of uh developments and uh what we've provided which is in your application package uh a study done by Kimley Horn which uh
demonstrates that these types of developments simply require less parking parking right we've this body's talked about it for some time uh what we don't want to see is an overparked unnecessary
imperous areas on this property. Uh this is we asked our engineers to put together a site plan that's that's beyond the conceptual that we need to do to meet sufficiency in an application package and said build us this community that meets your parking requirements and
this is what they were able to do. Um, we had our community meeting and and some of the feedback that we got was, "Look, this is a wooded area. You heard about the burm. There's there's existing vegetation. We're trying to install this community in such a way that quite frankly, it's tucked back and and not
really visible from 27. Um, utilizing this study that we that was provided by our engineer as well as real world buildouts. We have these communities elsewhere. We see what the parking is. We have the data. we know the practicality of who's parking there and
how much is required. Um, and so our request as part of this PUB approval is a 1.6 parking space spaces per unit as opposed to the code required too. The two is what's in the staff reports in the ordinance. We're proposing a 1.6 so that we can accommodate those specific
uh comments that we received from our community meeting and can affectuate what I'm going to present on the next slide. But what you see here that meets the the the code required too is 555 uh parking spaces. Uh again, still meets
all the performance standards in the PUD ordinance. Um but the changes is that and these are these are we're going to flip back and forth on these slides. Um what you see on the east and south where the existing uh residential developments are are
about 39 ft and and 30 feet as shown. Okay. What we're proposing that meets our study and what we see in our other communities uh is 442 spaces, right? That that's what meets the 1.6. And what it does is pretty striking. It allows us
to increase the setbacks to 140 plus on the east side, 129 plus on the south side, 141 plus on the north side. It also allows us to have less imperous areas. We don't want to unnecessarily overp park this thing uh so that it looks like some of the shopping malls
you see around here now just sitting empty. It allows more green space, more buffering, more setback from the existing development which ultimately you know provides for additional compatibility. Um with that I'm happy to answer any specific questions. We have traffic engineer here. We have other
representatives from the project team. Um, but before I do conclude, um, and and I'll reserve some time because I know there'll be some some responses. I think it's powerful to note a few things and and and one is is the limitations as it relates to the income levels of folks that that move into these communities
because again, they're highly competitive. You know, to to apply to live at a Dominium community, you got to go a background check. You got to be a citizen. Uh, you they they do a full review of your income levels, who's moving in. Um for two for for two people
it's 56,40 for three 56,940 for four 63,240 just and I I just pulled this from from the website so there may be some additional detail that goes into this but the Leburg police officers base
salary $62,000 firefighters 53 Lake County schools they start you at $49,500 these are the folks who live and work in this city in this community that we'll be catering to in a highly competitive market. And I think it's important when
I come up here and do slides and to quote ordinances to you that we think about those real world practicalities. Um, and with that, I'll happily answer any questions and reserve my time. >> Any other questions for Logan? I don't know if it would be Logan, but I
I would like a list of uh where all in Florida you have dominium, the cities, the address of of those, please be good. >> Yes, sir. >> This question, I guess, is directed at Dan. I'm not running you off, Logan. Um >> I'll be right here.
>> Dan, from a staff standpoint, which parking plan do you like better or support or not support? >> The data shows that they can work it with 1.6. The issue staff has is that if you go back to those two site plans,
this one is clearly superior to the other one in terms of buffers and the use of the land. Um, including the well, the emergency access and the access points pretty much stay the same. But in terms of buffers for the neighbors, that's a big deal to staff. And I think
that they worked very hard with us to try to come up with something. staff is willing to bend on the parking for something like this. It's a tough It is a tough call and I respect whatever you want to do on that.
Earlier I heard a comment that the ingress egress was off of 25A. U looks like it's off 27. Is that correct? >> Thank you. So that that that was what Dan was talking to as emergency access. We've met with FDOT and that we are proposing a full access on both to just
allow for better sight circulation. So, I just wanted to kind of provide that extra detail, too. That's >> Will there be um would you will you get have a median cut there? >> Well, we we're going to have there I believe there is a median cut. >> Okay. Okay. I couldn't tell from this area and all of that. Yeah. Driveway per
all that's got to go through FDOT as well. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Questions from Logan. >> We're going to open it up to public comments. If you have any public comments, please state your name and address for the record. And thank you. >> Uh Bill P 600 Cascade Avenue. I don't exactly know where that's at. 25A. Is
that the road south of South U? >> Southside shopping center. >> Yeah. Cemetery out there. >> They're by Lake Dunham Estates. And >> and you got 450 to 80 cars. Give me a break here. How you going to get them on the highway?
You can't get out of 25A coming from 25A unless you go down south to uh where that trailer park is down there. There's a median cut there, but it's not even wide enough for a car. It's not as
wide as a car is wide or long. You're going to put a stoplight there right before the other stoplight that's uh at the Southside Shopping Center. There's no way to get 480 cars out of there a day or even 25 cars out of there
a day because it's backed up all the way south of 48. Something to think about. I mean, you're you're talking about the old Lucans property right there off of 25A, right? >> Yes. >> I believe the entrance matches up to
English Road if that helps. Bill, >> that's the entrance. Who said that? It It's right now >> the two dots. >> Okay. That's the road south of south of there. >> That's the south end of 25. >> So they're going to go south. They're going to go south on 25A to come out
there. >> That's one of the entrances. >> Where's the other one? >> It's down south. >> You see that on the bottom? >> Can you point it out to me, please? >> The one the right corner there? >> That's coming out on 27. >> Yes, sir. >> Right across from where they sell
wheelchair stuff. And then this is way further south, Bill. >> Further south. >> The first entrance is of 25A is just south of the southside shopping center. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> The southern. >> Okay. Are you planning on coming on 27
to there? >> Because there's no possible >> on the south side. Yeah. >> The southside. So, are they going to put a stoplight? DOT said they're going to put a stoplight. >> We got to work. We got to work with FDOT on the signalization warrant study, all that. Do a driveway permit study. We've met with them on that. >> Okay. We're going to look at those things. >> Okay. It's just there's no way you're
going to get that many cars out of there in >> in one day. I mean, it's a beautiful beautiful concept. But, uh, >> but I I don't, you know, that is right at the the bad part of where the traffic is. >> All the traffic comes buck right there.
>> Yep. So, we we've met with FDOT on that. We're having those conversations and Yeah. [clears throat] >> They think we can. So, >> they think Well, they're 10 years behind. >> We're going to ask questions and then the developer will come back and answer. >> Uhhuh. >> Thank you, Bill. >> Yeah. Well, I got [clears throat] 13 12 more seconds.
>> 11 more seconds if you want to talk to me. >> So, do you think that's feasible to have that happen? >> Ask yourself that. I got three more seconds. >> Thank you. >> Any other public comments? [clears throat] >> Good evening. I'm Trey Holidayiday. 905
Northshore Drive, Leburg. Dan, if I understood you correctly, you said there are two, three, four bedrooms with a maximum square footage of a thousand square feet. >> Minimum. What's the maximum on the force? >> Maximums aren't in the ordinance. They have to do a minimum and then everything
above. That's kind of great how the ordinance written. >> What What are you looking at forecasting on your >> around 1300 for four bed? >> 1300 feet for four bed. 00 to 1400 >> and 18 almost 1,900 a month. >> Oh yeah. >> How much of this is government
subsidized housing? >> It's no it's not >> no subsidizing [clears throat] at all. >> No, there's there's tax credits that we get from the federal government subsidized. >> We don't incentive. >> Okay, Mr. Holiday, ask the questions and then they can come up and answer them.
>> So, I'm just curious. Basically, we're putting in government housing. That's what I Okay. Well, uh, it's the way I'm seeing it. So, I was just curious that we're all on the same page of what they're asking to
develop here. So, something to consider. Thank you. >> Any other public comments? Seeing none, we'll close it. And would the developer like any final comments? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, and appreciate the comments and feedback. Um, yeah. No,
this isn't government housing. There are there are certain tax incentives um certainly that that give quite frankly Dominium the out the 15-year outlook that they have that they build successful communities in. You know, they want to see a successful community because they are going to own it and they're going to operate it and that's
what we've seen. That's why it's we have such demand for these types of communities and I I I outline the types of folks that we see here vying to get in. Uh so just wanted to clarify that but appreciate the the comment and any other questions I can answer for you. Any final comments from the commission?
>> No, I I I like the project. I am concerned about the ingress egress and the traffic. Anything you can do to mitigate that? And I say I like it. Let me qualify why. I was on a committee with the chamber years ago. It was education committee and it was we met with all the principles of all the
schools and they talked about their frustration with there wasn't housing for the teachers and they would they would tell me how they would hire a teacher that live in Claremont Eustus Mount Dora and as soon as the position came open they were gone and and they were advocating this type of housing. So the the project is great. I am concerned
about the the traffic down there in the ingress egress. I know we don't have authority on a light. You don't have authority. I don't have authority on a traffic light, but uh that that's my only concern is is the >> traffic issue. >> Yeah. Thank you, M. >> The traffic issue >> and this beauty of first reading, right?
We we have a traffic study and we have traffic engineers we're working with. We've met with FDOT and we'll continue to provide that information to you particularly uh at second reading as well. Happy to provide a more color on that. >> Any other comments? >> Thank you. >> Seeing none, this will lay over till
January 12th. I know. I thought you had for him. I do have a couple things I want to mention. >> Yes, sir. >> I'll excuse myself, but thank you for your time, Commissioner. >> Just a couple things. Just think about [clears throat] before this comes back to second reading. We're talking about 10 threestory
apartment buildings. I mean, 10 three-story apartment buildings. Now, was it last meeting or the the meeting before that? This commission approved three-story apartment buildings and four-story apartment buildings. How many more apartment buildings we need? 10 threestory apartment buildings at this
location I think is way too much based on the number of units and the acreage. It's coming out to about 15 units an acre. It's pretty high density. I think the the the ingress and egress to get out of this location is awful.
We're going to have um apartments, some of them going to be threebedroom, some are four bedroomedroom, and we're going to consider letting them get away with 1.6 spaces. Now, how how many people just realistically are going to rent a
three-bedroom or a fourbedroom apartment? It's not going to have at least two vehicles. A lot of them probably have three vehicles for a for a four fourbedroom apartment. I think even remotely considering letting reduce the parking from 2 to 1.6 is is craziness.
This is an expired PUD. It was approved for assisted living. It was never approved for apartments. My opinion, they have no type of vesting to come back and get 10 threestory
apartments for in this additional traffic. These are just some things I hope the commission considers when this comes back up for a second reading that these are all issues and you know the the buildings aren't going to be visible from 27 on how you're going to hide
three or 10 threestory buildings but you know things to think about before this comes back up. That's all I have to say. Thank you. >> All right. This will lay over till January 12th, 2026. No non-rine items,formational reports. Uh any
questions on the financial reports as of September 2025? Seeing none. >> No, I I have one. And uh also when I first got on the commission, I was always uh going through these reports more thoroughly. But the only one thing
jumped out at me, Al. Um I saw these collection amounts for it said security and I guess my my question is do we need to have these people pay up front or would you need to have a bigger security deposit? I was just surprised we were having to go after hire attorneys and collect on I'm guessing a uh it was
security. It was payment for security. I think it's the Leburg police officers. Am I making >> Yeah, I don't know. So, I'm just I'll get back to you. >> Okay. I was just throwing out an idea. I saw some small amounts. I was like, you know, maybe we could skin this. I know. I remember when we after we built the
median center, we talked about um you know, the the rental the lease rates, the deposits. We we tried to make it very businessfriendly, but we I just say so I guess my question is, do we need to maybe relook at those security deposits if we're having to charge off amounts? That's all I'm saying. Something to think about. Let me let me dig into it.
>> Thank you, Al. >> All right. Uh, city attorney items. >> No reports this evening. Thank you. >> Thank you. City manager items. >> None. >> None. Roll call. >> Commissioner Pell. >> Nothing. >> Bur.
>> Nothing tonight. >> Peterson. >> Just one thing. Um, I want to congratulate uh Mayor Reeseman on his Leburg Chamber award for the uh Greg Padet Award. Uh, Greg was a personal friend of mine and a great community advocate and it's it's I I say that's
quite an honor. Uh, Mr. Reeseman, >> thank you, sir. >> Yeah, >> you stole my thunder. >> Oh, I'm sorry. [laughter] >> I'd just like to congratulate um um Sandy and Siobhan and the new members of the chamber as well. And it was a great
night on Thursday and wish to continue our businesses joining and coming to Leburg and making this city >> a night. >> If you wouldn't mind, please be quiet out there so the commissioners can comment. Thank you. We've heard enough comments this evening from you out of
out of the chair from there. Thank you. >> So I'm not hearing me. >> I couldn't hear you at all. You were talking. [clears throat] >> That was my comment. Thanks. >> Thank you, Commissioner Barry. Mayor Smith. >> Uh just multiple grand openings this week. We have Wawwa. We have uh over
there behind the Town Place suites. Uh and our wastewater treatment plant grand opening is this week. Discover Leburg is on the 12th. If [clears throat] any of you guys want to come out to the Lone Oak uh wreath across America, that is on the 13th. I'll be the MC for that event. And then hope to see [clears throat] all of you guys at the Chamber Sunrise
Breakfast sponsored by the city of Leburg on the 18th at 7 a.m. Uh with that, I'll take a motion to adjurnn. Oh, wait. Your next meeting is Monday the 15th. Next Monday. >> Next Monday is the 15th. Yeah. [clears throat] Because the holidays. Yeah. Monday the 15th. >> The 15th.
>> Then next week because of the holidays. So we're meeting next Monday. >> Yeah. December is always second and third. >> Second third. Yeah. Um motion to adjurnn. Have >> a motion. A second. Meeting adjourned.