K9 Longevity is presented by Myios Pet, the leaders in pet muscle health. When we talk about longevity, one of the components is being proactive versus reactive. And that means we really need to understand what's going on within your dog, within your patient that we're
dealing with as veterinarians. And there's so much that can be going on regarding inflammation that we're just not even aware of. It's the same with us in humans. And it's all about data, right? Data is king. And for us to actually be able to have ways to analyze what's going on inside the dog's body
pre proactively and a more proactive reactive response or rate is going to be really important. So this has really taken off in the human realm. And believe it or not, it's in the veterary space as well. So on today's edition of Canal Longevity, we have Dr. Maro here
from VDI is going to be talking to us about all things related to the ability for us to test these types of changes, inflammatory changes, mediators, and so forth and our patients. Dr. Mara, thank you so much for joining us. >> You're welcome. Thanks for having me. >> So, another vetinarian, we're going to
geek out on all sorts of things. Um, and close by in Pennsylvania, it sounds like. Um, what led you down this path? So, a vetinarian that's now going the path of all the holistic longevity, wellness. What was there anything that with your own pet or you know patient or what was it that kind of steered you in
this direction? >> So I started very early into integrative medicine and um studied actually at this very conference at it was not called NAVC. It was the Eastern States Veterinary
Conference. Um I met Dr. Dr. Carval Tikert who was the founder of the AHVMA the holistic veterinary medical association and I specifically attended this conference so I could get more understanding of acupuncture and TCVM
um and I thank my lucky stars that I met Dr. Turt and he had been the president of the Maryland Veterinary Medical Association. Um, so he had approached me and asked me how I like the conference and if I'd like to be a member and that
opened up a whole world of information. I originally joined the organization just to u have uh access to their newsletter or journal. At that time it was more of a newsletter. Now it's a peerreed journal of the AHVMA and you can get
lots of data about integrative uh vet medicine and it's a great resource. So I started down the path looking at how we could do better for patients than just focusing on vaccines and like you mentioned reactive care and uh that led
me towards uh getting certified in many modalities in uh alternative and integrative vet medicine. Um but early on uh even in 1987 when I started my practice I wanted to have diagnostics available at point of care and that was
tough to find. Uh so I had wet chemistry a wet chemistry lab in ' 87. I did emergency care and uh that was really unheard of in western Pennsylvania at that time. There was no emergency clinic in Pittsburgh. Um and I found it to be
very helpful in uh diagnosing early rather than waiting days to a week for blood work to come back. Um and then I just built on that. But in uh uh 20 I think it was 2009 I started using VDI uh
laboratories and I found them to be very helpful and especially because I could get uh C reactive protein testing some um uh early cancer diagnosis or at least leading me onto a path where I could um
say to the pet parent listen this thyodine kynise the C reactive proteins elevated I'd like to do an abdominal ultrasound. And it's so much easier to get clients to be compliant and interested in exploring more
possibilities when uh you have data to to show them and say this isn't just my intuition. This is a piece of paper that says we should do an ultrasound. >> Right. >> So, >> so how did you discover VDI? So, were you searching for labs that would do
these types of >> alternative type panels or you just stumbled across them or >> I think I started doing vitamin D testing first and um and I was really interested in vitamin D um and the way it helps support the muscular skeletal
system, the immune system, uh the kidney functions, all of those. Um, so I started there and then I think I added in the lymphoma screening panels next and um, and I was extremely impressed
when Randy Ringold, the owner of the company, called me one night after I think it was after 900 p.m. and he had figured out by I guess my contacts that I was uh, I would work late into the evening. So, and uh he called me and he
said, "Tell me about this patient." And I thought, "Good golly, I've never had anybody do that." And I had used smaller laboratories and what we have now available for my diagnostics. And I I mean, sometimes I'd have to chase down
the clinical pathologist and I think most veterinarians have experienced that when you say, "Hm, this blood work doesn't match what I was seeing. I want to talk to somebody." And then it's layers of talking to people and Randy was always available and if he wasn't immediately available I'd get a call
back within 24 hours >> and uh and I I quickly learned that uh having C reactive protein and now many people are doing CRPS and of course feline haptlobin was just such a gift to
my clients and my patients to be able to respond uh very proactively rather then wait until we go down the road of serious disease. >> Right. >> K9 Longevity is presented by Meios Pet, the leaders in pet muscle health.
>> Dogs age, muscle loss can quietly steal mobility and quality of life. But what if science could help change that? Meios muscle formula with forotropen is an allnatural science-backed ingredient shown to help build and maintain muscle
while reducing muscle breakdown with over a decade of research and real results. Because stronger muscles means more moments together. Meios more time together. So then you were using the lab and all
of a sudden now fast forward you're working with them. How did that come about? >> I'm not sure. So maybe five or six years ago, u I was and and I will say that VDI Labs has
been very um and and Randy and Kyle have been very supportive of the AHVMA and it's been a really nice symbiotic relationship uh for members with VDI who are AHVMA and um members and certainly
other people are using their lab services. Uh, but I stopped by the table at the AHVMA conference and maybe it's a little longer ago than I recall. I'm sorry. This is 38 years in practice. So,
um, uh, we were talking about vitamin D and Randy mentioned about how magnesium um, you know, if you can't get those vitamin D levels to come up, magnesium is really important to follow up on. And they were starting to do serum magnesium
levels. So I said, "Well, I already use magnesium and I use a lot of topical magnesium in my practice." And I kind of figured that out along the way. And um then Randy had asked if I wanted to be involved in submitting some samples and
we did that. and he recognized that I was sort of researching a lot of human side and European studies in nutrition and uh longevity medicine on on both the human level and the veterinary level. Um and
we would sometimes talk and collaborate and then he had asked me to be on their medical advisory board and then this past year he asked if I'd be interested in being the medical director. So, you're doing that and practicing still? >> Yes. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Well, it's at this point, uh, we say
it's around four hours a month, but I think it's more than that. >> But I love it because I love how innovative BDI is and how responsive they are to the veterinarian's needs and interest and curiosity.
>> So, how are you getting the word out? So I I think the challenge we have in the veterary industry um is that this whole area of proactive medicine, right, versus reactive. Um I think the challenge we have of even understanding when and why they should run these tests and then what the tests mean when they
get the results back. They, you know, we're to geek out on on biochemistry here in a bit, but it's it's a matter of they're so busy. you know, vetinarians are seeing the cases. They're trying to work them up, do their annuals, do the vaccines, get them out the door, and to do that deep dive into, hey, this is
more of a proactive type test I want to run. Even in the healthy dogs, I think obviously that's what we're talking about is here being proactive. Um, how are you getting the word out to veterinarians um that this is that this exists and the why, you know, why is it important? So um first I'll speak as an
individual practicing veterinarian when I see cases and I see cases from all over as many integrated veterinarians do. I'm usually in contact with a local veterinarian and so even if I don't directly speak with them when I send the pet parents and I always send
pet parents with their data so they can have it and keep it in their own folder as well as in the chart I possess. uh when they go back to their veterinarian and I suggest that they have these tests run. I have many clients who spend half the year in Florida and half in
Pittsburgh. Um they then are the pet parents are educating their veterinarians, right? >> And um sometimes it shocks me that a veterinarian has been given a gift and they choose not to open it up. Um and so
and most veterinarians though will ask the pet parent how they can you know contact this laboratory and or they'll contact me directly. Okay. So, um I've done some uh podcasts for um CIVT and I
did get veterinarians contacting me after that podcast. And it wasn't specifically about VDI, but some of the things that I mentioned uh led to veterinarians saying, "Hey, I I want to find out what they offer." And uh the
service is just exemplary uh from VDI and that's why I >> part of the park. >> Yes. Yeah. So if a so a client or a pet parent orders the kit, they have it run um and they have questions, can they call directly into you as one of the
vetinarians to ask questions or they directed back to their veterinarian to answer questions um regarding the results? >> So at this stage at the level that I'm involved, I am not answering other veterinarians questions directly. >> Okay. Um, I will collaborate with Randy
Ringold >> and uh sometimes he will send me an email that has >> um the veteran the ordering veterinarian's information. So it's usually uh Randy communicating with the veterinarian. Okay. And most of the time
I give him a bigger answer about the case than and it goes beyond the scope of the diagnostics and uh my clinical impressions and then he'll share that with the veterinarian who ordered the test. Um we're really not consulting at
this stage direct I mean not at all direct pet parent other than values. Um but what VDI does and and they do well is that it's a test and treat philosophy as an integrated veterinar veterinary lab. So that means when the test results
are presented then options for next steps are given >> which is great >> to the pet parent and to the vetinarian or >> veterinarian >> vetinarian. So then the veterinarian um as an example uh let's say the TK test and C reactive protein or in cats the
haptoglobin are elevated on an advanced gastrointestinal uh panel. Well, they uh there'll be these little boxes that explain each of the values uh such as uh the TK is elevated, C reactive protein is normal, >> right?
>> Investigate for pancreatitis. Well, pancre CPL, FPL are on that AGI panel. >> Got it? So we can already rule in rule out pancreatitis and then uh there may be a line and I started with elevated C reactive protein
NTK elevated neoplasia index do diagnostic imaging to see do you have lymphoma going on here. So it's it gives a lot of guidance. um vitamin B12 is on that panel for AGI. And if vitamin B12
is low, there'll be guidance on dosing for vitamin B12. Not just give them some B12, but like sometimes as veterinarians, we're in the dark about, okay, vitamin D is low, what do I do now? >> So, if that's the case, where do you send them to get the supplement? So, is
there a or they just go online and sort of look look it up or do you guys help with that as well? >> We help with that as well. Okay. >> So, u VDI now keeps in stock many of the supplements. So, it simplifies ordering. Yes. Yeah. It's really very nice.
>> So, it simplifies um so the veterinarian can just call them directly and say, you know, send me a pack, you know, a dozen of these or Okay, >> I only have one patient who needs it. Can you send that out with my next kits or whatever supplies they need? >> So, I'm going to play pet parent. Okay.
And so I'm listening to this podcast and I say, "Whoa, I have a 5-year-old lab. I want to have this screened. I want to get on I want to be more proactive." So they're going to and say they're a veterinarian that they see um hasn't worked with you guys, hasn't worked with and doesn't really know a lot about some
of this proactive medicine. Um can the pet parent, can I as the pet parent reach out to you, order the kit, you send it to me, and I take it to my veterinarian or would I say, "Hey, I'm really interested in this. I have to convince my veterinarian to order the kit from from you guys. Help me with that first because I am a me as a pet
parent being very proactive. Man, I'm all in. What's my next step? >> If someone asked me directly what to do, my response would be to uh contact the veterinarian, >> their personal veteran, >> their personal veterinarian. And it's so
easy to set up an account. VDI makes it very simple. Okay. Unlike some of the major labs, you can order three tests a year. You're not committed with any crazy contracts or fees. And uh the
really nice thing is that Randy will do inservice kinds of uh live Zoom meetings with staff to explain the applications of each of the tests. People can get started with one test. You're not obligated in any way. So, I think it
works well for the pet parent, in this case you, to go to your veterinarian and say, "Hey, I heard this. It's great." And these folks say you can just go online, vdi.com, I think, and and order the the uh the
kit or talk to them. Um, and Kyle and Randy will get on the line and, uh, they will fill a veterinarian in, uh, send whatever kits they want, and you can start slow. >> Perfect. So, kit's going to come to my veterinarian, take my my dog in, they're
going to draw the blood, send it in. results then come to myself and the veterinarian or will they'll go to my vetinarian >> the veterinarian for a review which is good because if something is unforeseen or doesn't make sense then um >> they can reach out to
>> to BDI labs >> okay perfect and then >> but the report I will say their reports are beautiful >> okay >> the report is >> can the client can can I as a pet parent get a copy of the report as well because I love to keep all my files and you know kind of >> I give all my files So we can have a
copy of that. >> You can have a copy and the copy is very easily understood by the client. >> Okay. >> This segment of K9 Longevity is brought to you by Equisir for dogs. Combining light therapy, infrared and neuro stimulation to help support K9 comfort
and movement. >> Now my veterinarian, you know, inventory, right? They don't keep all the medications, all the supplements on the shelf because they have such limited space, right? So you guys carry the supplements. So if it shows I'm, you know, my pet is, you know, deficient in
X, Y, and Z, now I can go directly back to you and say, "Hey, I'm deficient in these or my my pet is can and I can order these supplements and you'll drop ship them directly to me or do I have to pick them up through my vetinarian?" >> Yes. >> Because these are I'm just trying to figure out logistics because my you know, as we really get the word on the
street out there to proactive medicine, you know, medicine 3.0 versus 2.0 you know, in the veterary space. I think what's going to happen by demand, the veterarians are going to be brought into this, right? Cuz so many of them aren't quite there yet. Um, we're really pushing for it, but it's going to be by client demand. So, what you're going to
find is that, especially as things like these podcasts and TV series release, you're like, whoa, lots of dog owners are reaching out. How do we actually make this streamlined and how do we make this so that we can scale this up? So, I know that my my clientele, boy oh boy, a lot of them are performance dogs. They
want things like yesterday. they're a little impatient. They're like the border collies that they're running with. And so, um, so definitely something that I want to be able to say to my clients, hey, um, this is the next steps as you're going back to your vetinarian. So, that's is very, very helpful. And the supplements, then we'll talk to Kyle about how those actually
then get back to the to the patients. And I'm assuming then once they're on those supplements for a while, they should probably rerun the panels to make sure that we're >> absolutely >> balancing out, right? And the profiles say uh for instance with vitamin D because it's a fats soluble vitamin
you're not going to run the next week >> run it in 8 to 10 weeks. Now I have some clients who are in my office >> 3 weeks after you know we we drew the test >> and then we review I send them with the vitamin D. I stock it in my office and I
will uh often have two or three supplements. Of course we don't start all these supplements the same day. you have a pet parent calling you the next day saying, "Ah, what did you do?" So, um, then I'll tell them from that date that they start the supplement and we schedule the follow-up blood work. Okay.
Um, before they leave the office. >> How often do you see vitamin D being low and the patient use screen? So this is an interesting uh question because previously I saw it about 65 to 75% of the time >> but now something has happened since
COVID and I have not talked to Randy about this in detail. I am seeing more elevated vitamin D levels and very elevated vitamin D levels. So this is my um theory. Uh I always ask clients about
what else they're giving that I don't know about. And lo and behold, my clients are are sent a survey every time they're having an appointment which says, "What new things are going on? What old things haven't resolved? Uh what food and supplements are you
giving?" And I will get a whole list and invariably I get a list of what I recommended either from TCVM herbs um and general supplements. And I I look at it and I say, "Okay, that matches my notes. Here we go. We're in the room."
and they get these crazy 250 vitamin D levels and I'm like, >> "Wow, >> this is odd. This dog's not on any supplemental vitamin D." When I asked the client, and now I've been specifically asking about therapeutic mushrooms because as therapeutic
mushrooms are all over the internet, I'm seeing loads of elevated vitamin D levels. >> Okay, >> so now it's becoming important to monitor, are we excessively supplementing? The other thing that will raise vitamin D and and you know this is all the salmon and there's loads of
salmon meals, salmon treats, dehydrated salmon. >> So now we have to worry about that. But this is the other part. I have a theory that many pet food companies to make up for the rising cost of muscle meat going up are adding more organ meat.
>> Okay. >> And it's really easy to do even in raw foods and maybe more so. And I have many clients who are feeding raw or >> yeah. >> So that's even more important because in the sporting dog community, the agility community, that is a very hot topic in
the hot area that they will commonly do. Um so boy, we need to stay on top of that >> and and I think pet parents really need to be watching vitamin D levels because you get excessive for a long period of time and then you can have damage. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Dr. Mara has been incredible. Thank you so much for taking time with us. And if
pet parents would like to learn more about your company, they go to >> vdilabs.com. >> Excellent. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> And remember, it's all about your pet's health span, not just lifespan. And stay tuned. Coming up with us from BDI, we're going to have Kyle here to talk about
all things bioenzymes, biomarkers. We are going to geek out. Stay tuned. Stay. K9 Longevity is presented by Myios Pet, the leaders in pet muscle health. So joining me now with Canine Longevity
is Kyle Wilson with VDI. And we're going to be talking about all things biomarkers, inflammation, test kits, everything we should be doing from a standpoint of longevity and proactive medicine with our our K9 patients and and pets. So um thank you for joining us. >> Yeah, thanks for having me.
>> So I'm going to geek out a little bit. I was a biochemistry major at Hopkins and so I know your whole area of um understanding these things is a is a deep dive. So if I get too deep be like canap >> rain it back in. So, when we talk about this proactive medicine, um, when you go
to your vetinarian, they run your basic CBC chem profiles. They do it for us as well. When we go to our our own doctors and there's such a deeper dive we should do even with us when we're looking at a a lipid panel and there's LP little A and all these things that you go to your general doctor and they're like, you want to run what? And so, I think what
we're doing now is we're seeing owners being way more receptive to a proactive approach. And therefore, I think we'll have a trickle down effect to really bring smaller practitioners into this whole world of testing that you guys are doing through VDI. So, explain to me, help me understand a little bit what's
available um as far as to the pet parents out there. What tests should they be doing? How often should they be running them? Um are there kits and are those kits sent to the vet or to the owner? So kind of a little bit I guess we'll first start with um what do you recommend on like an annual basis or
semiannual that people really should be adding to their basic workups just for your healthy wellness evaluations? >> Yeah. So I'm going to touch on one thing you just mentioned there is about the CBC Kim profile. It's conversation we have with vetinarians even pet parents every now and then which is the body
works really hard to keep blood chemistry is normal. And so it's not until things are really outside of normal before there's actually problems. And a lot of times even when something's abnormal, it's a well let's wait and see and test again. That's not being proactive. That's being reactive. So that's why we're working on building out
more biomarkers, more tests, more options to be more proactive at detecting disease earlier so you can get ahead of it and start taking action. We kind of lump them into two kind of main categories. One is inflammatory diseases and things like detecting inflammation.
Apparently healthy animals should not have inflammation. So that's where C reactive protein and heptoglobin come in as early indicators of inflammation. Then we also bundle in things like nutrition. So nutrition is a very critical point. Um obviously there's all the talk on the town all the time is
good diet leads to good health. Problem is diet is only as good as the individual and what they're actually getting from their diet. So testing can help us determine are they getting all the nutrients they need. Essential vitamins, vitamin D, B12, folate, magnesium, but even things like hair
analysis looking at micronutrients. So, it's kind of a a whole look of what individual pet is getting. And it could be siblings in the same household. Two golden retrievers from the same litter on the same diet, same age, everything, same health status, different vitamin levels, >> right?
>> So, nutritionally, we say start around one year old. Once you're on the adult diet and you've kind of got a good staple diet, get that first test in, see what the levels are, see where you need to make some tweaks or adjustment, or maybe it's just not a good diet for that pet. start again, find another one that they're tolerant to and try to make good
progress and get a good healthy diet that's got the nutrients that they need. Then as you start progressing, getting into the adult age, you start screening for inflammation. That's going to be C reactive protein, haptolobin, looking for just general systemic inflammation and see if we can take steps to control it or mitigate it or find the source.
And then once you start approaching senior age is when you get into the more specialty things. That's going to be hyaluronic acid, which is a joint test, looking for early signs of deg joint disease. uh cancer screening, looking for early um signatures that cancer may be growing or that the pet's at risk of
developing cancer. That's a big thing is like it may not have cancer now, but we're starting to see abnormal cell growth. We're starting to see inflammation. And when those things happen together, it's a recipe for cancer growth. So, especially when you couple that with low vitamin D levels, that kind of thing, you really want to
try to bundle that together. So, we we start to say if you're a high-risisk breed or if you're starting to get into the senior age or the late adult stage, that's when you want to start looking at those specialty kind of tests. And then, you know, you that's that's kind of the framework that you build off of the specialy test. There are some other
applications like if you're sporting dog, for example, you're an agility dog, you may want to do some of this stuff earlier. Try to make sure you stay on top of it. >> K9 Longevity is presented by Myios Pet, the leaders in pet muscle health. Dogs age, muscle loss can quietly steal
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over a decade of research and real results. Because stronger muscles means more moments together. Mios more time together. >> I think having baseline data is king. So I think everybody when they go in as a young dog, they have the wellness
evaluations, they have the panels run and that way they have a starting point and they can track those over the years to see and and I think you mentioned the senior dogs with cancer screening, but would you think to do cancer screening even earlier as you know because some of the cancers we see and golden retrievers may see even Absolutely. High-risisk
breeze. As soon as they're adults, it's good time to start. Yeah. And and you're going to get that information. What we're really looking for in in the cancer screening isn't >> are we detecting cancer. That's a very big important piece. But when we do cancer screening, we bundle it with inflammation. And inflammation is that
propagator of disease of all diseases including cancer. And so if we can take steps even before the tumor develops, then we can start to >> push that down the line or hopefully prevent it all together. So if you start testing sooner, that's when you're going to start seeing these trends pop up.
When you see trends pop up, you can take um take action, >> right? So what about GI? I this term loosely GI mapping or looking at, you know, the the gut is such a an important organ so responsible for cardiovascular disease, type two diabetes, cognitive dysfunction in humans if they have
inflammation within their guts. Is there anything that we can do for the patients as well to look at any kind of gut health that you have? Yeah, there's there's some definitely microbiome testing that's a good good option. Um, you know, mapping the the biome, seeing what kind of bacteria, the diversity,
the richness, um, seeing if there's anything growing in like an SIBO situation. We also have some other stuff that we we work on. We look at things like micotoxin exposure. So, this is mold growth um, that could be from the areas they live, especially in hot humid conditions. That can be an underlying
contributor to GI and derm signs. uh glyphosate exposure, you know, Roundup, huge pesticide used all over the world and food sources and uh chemical lawn treatment that can lead to leaky gut, which is, you know, obviously a contributor to GI signs. So, there's
some other preventative or underlying diseases that you can look at using testing as a as a resource to see if the pet's in, you know, exposed to it. >> So, how do you decide you have so many tests that you can run? Um, is it based on we have a pet parent that says, "Man,
I'm all in." And you know they my clientele will be like check check check they'll have check every single box. Um and so how do you determine based on age breed like when a a parent's going to reach out to you directly. >> Yeah. >> How do they decide which kits to order or I I know they should always go
through their veterinarian but I can tell you so many times my clients are going to be ones that are going to be like I just want it all. Um so how do you decide you know how do you determine that? >> So the first step and Dr. Marorrow alluded to this is we try to empower the vetinarian. you know, they they are the one seeing every animal. They're the one
on the front line. So, to the extent that we can empower them and educate them, that's what we try to do as a company. But a lot of clients need that help and we provide it. So, we we provide some general framework um based off of age, um what kind of dog, what
kind of cat, you know, what's their lifestyle that we make some recommendations on when and what kind of testing to choose and we put them in in panels. Um and that's where our baseline recommendations go. Now, nothing stops you from going to the the top tier and getting it all and getting the information. It's a great place to
start, usually the best value versus doing it, you know, piece by piece as you go. Um, but we provide that guidance and and there's a few selective panels and groupings that we recommend based on lifestyle or um life stage. >> So, let's say I my cl So, I do sports
medicine, so I see a lot of the agility dogs. And so let's say that I have an agility dog client. Um we're say I am the agility dog owner and I'm listening to this podcast or this TV series. I'm like, "Okay, I'm one of those. I'm going to check the boxes all the kits." What are the kits? And so it sounds like they
can get these kits directly from you. Um give me a little bit of information as to what the different kits are and then how will they get the samples? It sounds like you have one that's fur. I think there's one that definitely you take to the vet office to have a blood draw. um what are all the kits that they would be ordering and what's the steps to get the
results? >> Okay, so there there's two basic kit types. There's u serum which is going to require blood draw from the veterinarian. Any panels that's selected that has serum, we'll bundle it so that the pet parent gets the kit, >> schedules a blood draw with their vet, takes it in, and the vet just finishes processing. They don't have to worry
about any payment with the lab. They don't have to worry about any of that. >> Okay? >> The pet parent will get a copy of the results and the vetinarian will get a copy of the results. That way everybody's in the loop and they can have discussions. Um things that may not need serum, so fur test, that parent can
just collect it according to the instructions and send it right to the lab. Perfect. >> We send them a copy of the report and if they so choose, we'll send their vet a copy of the report. >> And then the same is true with our urine tests. They'll be the same. They can be collected at home. If you're having trouble collecting at home, you can request that from from the vet and they
can help with that. >> Of K9 Longevity is brought to you by Equasier for dogs. combining light therapy, infrared, and neuro stimulation to help support K9 comfort and movement. >> So, I'm the pet parent. I did the fur test and you sent me the results
directly. Now, I'm going to go right to your website, and do you have a uh patient portal or a place that I'll go to compare my results to normals, or do I get a nice list um of normals and abnormals and some thoughts or recommendations based on my return results from you guys?
>> Yes. So, we we do normal ranges with all of our testing um or sufficient ranges in case of like vitamin D. Um so, we do provide that that on the report. Then, we make recommendations for products where it's um suggested and necessary. Everything we make on a report is in consultation with your routine, your
regular vet. So, we don't want anything to be stood in isolation. You know, it it's part of a collaborative team effort to make sure the pet's getting the best care. So, keeping that in mind, we do provide recommendations on the report that the veterinarian can review with the pet parent or the pet parent can
look at it and if it it makes sense and after they've already talked with their vet, they can move forward with looking at those products. So, we partner with a range of companies. We don't manufacture our own products. So, we find partners that are um high quality, reputable with good products that we know are safe and effective. Okay?
>> And we make them available. So, if they're on our report as a recommendation, you don't have to follow the recommendation, but it's there as a resource to say, "This is a good product that pairs well with the results of your specific pet." >> Perfect. >> And then you can go right to our website and you can order it. Now, some things
may be only through the veterinarian. So, we do have some vetinarian only products and it'll has you ask you to have your vet contact us to order because they are vet only products, but a lot of it like vitamin D, B12, colostrum, that kind of stuff is is available to the pet parent. So, just
right there, easy to order even from different brands. It's just if if it's on our report, it's on our website and you can order it. >> Perfect. What are the ones that you'd have to get through a veterarian? >> We have a couple lines of like neutrauticals that are vetinarian only lines. Um some of the more advanced um
treatment protocols might be vetinarian only, but for the most part it's all publicly available. >> Perfect. And how often do you recommend that people run these these tests? What's the typical panel um that you recommend that the all-in the first sample and how often should they be repeating that?
>> The all-in is at least twice a year. >> Twice a year. >> That that's kind of the the gold standard. Now there's an opportunity to test more frequently depending on what the results are and we provide guidance on that. So if vitamin D comes back low and it's the only thing maybe only a vitamin D is the only thing you need to
repeat 8 to 10 weeks we make that recommendation of when to do that. If something more uh significant is out like a cancer risk assessment um or a um GI panel, something is is a little more critical, the test window would be recommended and it it'll vary depending
on case by case, but we make those recommendations. But for general wellness screening, you're looking at at least twice a year. If you really want to stay ahead of the game, some of these diseases, especially cancer, can develop um really quickly. Things like commandio saroma, for example, can just show up out of nowhere. And so you want to make
sure you're getting that data quickly enough that you don't miss the window where your opportunity for best outcomes is. >> Okay. So cost, if a client's looking at this twice a year, pet parents looking at this twice a year, um ranges of prices for the different kits, what do they cost? >> They can range anywhere from $110
for vitamin D to like a $500 allin. Everything's kind of their panel. So >> for my client that's the border poly owner that checked every single box, that's about $500. >> About 500 rough roughly give or take. And that's going to include a lot of information, a lot of data, a lot of it that you can take proactive steps and
help for that long-term health. >> My clients like a lot of data. >> Data. Data. We're we're great at data. And that's one thing our company really strives for is not just presenting data. You know, the the standard lab report is here's numbers on a page. Figure out what it means. We take those extra steps
to try to understand what they mean in context with the patient. Awesome. >> One thing you'll see us talk about a lot is contextsensitive. Everything we do is context sensitive. So when you submit a sample to our lab, we ask a bunch of checkbox questions. What kind of medications is a recent surgery? Uh
other concurrent diseases, uh is there a tumor? What kind of GI signs? All of that drives our expert system. So we can dial in those recommendations. So we can dial in that diagnostic and say this is what's going on specific to your pet. And that really helps us provide a
better service than just, you know, CRP is abnormal. Good luck. >> Sure. Okay. >> So >> makes sense. It's been fantastic. >> Yeah. >> So, if uh pet parents listen to this right now and they're interested in more information or ordering the kits, how do they do that? >> They just head to our website, vdilab.com, and that's uh all the information is out
there. They can definitely reach out to us anytime. We're very responsive. Um there's not very many layers of people to go through to get get to somebody, usually myself or Randy, and we'll we'll get you responses. definitely if they can get their veterinarian involved as a partner in this that makes life easy
because you know they're going to have additional questions because unfortunately life's not as simple as just one test result right so um we're always here for for that so just head of vdilab.com and shoot us an email give us a call fill out a form >> and we can help >> Kyle can't thank you enough for taking
the time really much great information this has been Dr. Sherman Kap with Canal Longevity. And remember, it's about your patient or pet's health span, not just lifespan. Good girl, Fachi. K9 Longevity is presented by Myios Pet,
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