##VIDEO ID:y-IpcI6LinU## e e e e e e e e e we'll go ahead and call the January 27th City commission meeting to order if you would please stand for the invocation and I would like to invite Pastor Terry with the father's house to pray and then we'll do the pledge Our Father in heaven Hallowed be thy name we thank you tonight first of all for this great nation that we live in thank you for our freedoms we thank you for our elected officials we thank you for this commission and we pray Lord that you would be with every uh decision that's made tonight that it would honor you in all things we pray that this city may continue to be a city that shines shines forth your light that cares for people and makes a difference and we'll give you thanks in your name amen amen I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you um Pastor Terry and before we move on I just wanted to let the audience know we will be pulling um item 6 A6 6 A7 and 6 A8 uh the applicant has asked for that to be pulled and it will be postponed till the 24th meeting of February do we need to we might need I'm sorry we might need to open and close that yeah let yeah I think we can open and close it and then we'll L time date and location for the continuance yes sir that's fine all right we'll do that at a later date we have a proclamation for lone o I'll go ahead and read that o into the record Office of the mayor lebur Florida Proclamation whereas Lone Oak Cemetery of the city of leeburg is the historic site of the city's first churches school and burials the first recorded in 1867 and whereas the Board of Trustees is sponsoring a Moonlight tour of Lone Oak Cemetery on February 13th 2025 and whereas by honoring historical sites of early homesteaders we are stimulating public interest in early lesburg and whereas it is fitting that all people recognize the importance of this historic site as a part of our City's Heritage now therefore I Alan reesman mayor of the city of leeburg Florida do do hereby Proclaim February 13th 2025 as Lone Oak Cemetery Heritage day and encourage its support and observ observance throughout the city as a means of gaining public interest in this historics patriotic cultural and educational aspects of that most significant era in the formation of our great City get up come up here and we'll get [Music] [Music] next we'll move to the presentations we have a Water and Wastewater impact fee analysis update by the city manager do we have the okay good evening distinguished members of the commission Cliff Kelce director of Public Works just a quick update on where we're sitting at with our water and wastewater impact fees so we've been keeping a close eye on these over the years as de development um comes through in as prices in construction and capital expenditures go up so uh next slide Anna first slide just a quick background on the legislation guiding the use of impact fees the key takeaways are there to accommodate new growth and maintain adequate service levels for our current customers and what we're trying to prevent is a reduction in service level so this slide basically tells us how impact fees are based and how they are supposed to be used by municipalities so they're based on the estimated Capital requirements to for new support new growth and development and the fee should not be used for Capital deficiencies for existing customers so not our current um infrastructure that is in disrepair next slide so from our point of view we just did a quick um estimate of where we should be at this is very rudimentarily very rudimentary so if you look at current construction costs for a water treatment facility it's on average of $7 a gallon and if we look at our growth forecast this is based on 10,000 new homes in the plans for future development that would give us 3 million gallons a day requirement at one eru of 300 gallons per day per single family home so if you take $7 a gallon times 3 MGD you get about $21 million divide that by the 10,000 homes you're roughly looking at $2,100 for your water impact fee our current water impact fee sits at1 $1,175 so now if we look at Wastewater same same basic math we're looking at $25 a gallon for construction cost and we have a smaller eru per single family home 250 gallons per day that gives us a 2 million gallon per day deficiency so multiply the $25 per gallon times 2.5 million gallons a day you're looking at $62.5 million and then divide that by the 10,000 homes your impact fee would roughly be $6,250 ours sits at$ 2778 so looking at this we're well over the 100% increase so what what do we do about this of course we're always tracking it we're always looking it we're always looking at our 5-year Capital program so the next step is hey let's get the experts in this to do some analysis for us they're going to look at um they're going to do a more scientific analysis they're going to go through our entire program our asset management program and see just where we're at um one of the contractors that we use to do these things we we have a continuing Services contract with Jones Edmonds they know our system very well we use them for our Wastewater flow modeling and a lot of um stuff that we can't do organically all right next sign so what's the way forward what's the timeline from here so we're looking at a scope of work to look at our impact fees do the analysis issue a notice to proceed to Jones Edmonds which we have already done that's where we're at presently so we're in the two weeks of data collection we're we're collecting all our information that requires them to do their analysis we'll download it to them they'll do their their data analysis and computations take them about two to four weeks and this this is progressively so you go two weeks and then another two to four weeks and then they'll issue us a final report of summary of findings and recommendations which would be another two to three weeks and then we're looking at a presentation to to put it together have them come brief Commission on what they found and what they recommend and then at that point it will be up to the body to impact the uh amend the impact fee ordinance codify or do nothing or whatever decision the the body makes and that's all I have unless there's any questions more we kind of skipped over the money there real quick yes sir I went a little fast so basically the uh I'll throw it in there I'll throw it in there so basically essentially here's where we're at and there just a couple of things I wanted to add to Cliff's presentation um so one um we want to go from if you scroll back a little more and that's good so that's that number our current that's a that's our solid wa or that's our that's our Wastewater impact fee so every residential unit that comes into town they have to pay the city $2,778 to hook up to the system um that's the number specifically that we're focused on where we think cliff and I on on our math there that that n number needs to go up from about the $2,700 number to about the $6,200 number number so that's the math that we that we want to double check impact fees obviously are are um a lightning rod type issue both sides of the equation um I think if you talk to me and Cliff and pin us down we will admit you got to have impact fees to defay the cost of development on your system um the trick is though that impact fees are monitored and watched probably more so I think by the development world to ensure that the fee that you're charging is corresponding to actual costs so that's the biggest reason that we want to take this from cliff and I's cliff notes to Jones Edmond who's our Professional Engineers who deal with us on this basis so to transfer this into more of a study that the cost is 50 Grand and the cost is 50 Grand 25 on the water side 25 on the sewer side which which is a good number which is within my spending Authority so barring you all saying stop don't do it we want to keep the impact fees where they're at we we're going to Endeavor to go ahead and get that done and then we'll bring back to you the the timeline that Cliff brought uh a report from Jones Edmonds with a recommendation from them that we think is going to cooporate what we think our rough house number is it it may be more it may be less um but with that um the fees don't go until an ordinance comes back to you so expect a report from Jones Edmonds and then that would be followed up by an ordinance I hope within the the time frame that Cliff provided on that other slide um can I ask you quick question how long ago when's the last time we uh increased or decreased or changed our impact fees how long not since I've been here 11 years so a long time yeah long time different dollar way different dollars and way different growth aspects yeah so having said that I just there a couple of things I wanted to add to Cliff's presentation kind just for your consideration I don't think our current water sewer electric infrastructure and for the most part gas gas is a little bit of a different creature have significant problems with growth um and let me let me explain in more detail um on average we use that 300 gallons a day on water so you divide basically our consumptive use um or the residual by that there's about 8,000 units leish in our cup um the second thing sewer is a little bit less Buck 50 or so or 250 is what we use on that so we still have considerable time on that and and again so that would be the 250 divided by the number of units uh and the and the capacity which we're going to build to the sewer plant so long story short on the water side of the house and the sewer side of the house I feel extremely confident that uh at the current growth rates which I'm going to talk about here in a second match what we're doing okay meaning the pioneering agreements that we've done to date and the growth rates that we've seen to dat really securely gets the city from today to 2030 so if we start talking major expansions of the plant major expansions of water treatment I mean we're really talking we don't need to talk about those things until 28 29 that's based on the growth rates that we see that have impacted the systems that we're required to do so what does that what I just say in English means all the growth not including the villages Okay so if you look at the growth charts if you look at one chart every month that comes out in the in the in the monthly reports not Robert's report so to speak but the the the department head one that's you know you go through look at the growth chart it's prepared by Dan Miller and an Kinsey and it shows the single family units by month okay so single family units by month not including the villages is only averaging about 35 units a month that's the key number for right now so even though we've got and for the audience benefit I want be sure they understand that certificates of occupancy certificate so that's how we're counting it so what we do we issue a start if you will a residential start and we issue a certificate of occupancy and those numbers they pretty much match you know there's a there's a variance a little bit of a delta in it but you know on the number I'm telling you on average from 19 20 21 22 through 24 um so through just last month our numbers never really exceeded over 40 units a month that is a relatively slow growth rate I know that's contrary to what comes before you I get it I understand it um but we have not seen significant non Villages numbers but for um in our history but for when Lake denim came in at 80 units so it's it's is it a matter of time when does that number pop up you know it's it's anybody's guess but there's there is a significant lag in approvals versus build outs so that so at the current Pace you know you would take that 40 units a month divided by 40,000 and if we continue at 40 units a month that's like 85 years before all of those are built out and so 85 years Al way exceeds the four uh the four years before there before that PUD expires does growth pick up does it not pick up I don't know but obviously you continue to get petitioned with with development requirements which are a quasi judicial requirement for yall um so we we have to manage those we have to follow the law when you manage those um and for now probably the next five years or so our window of development and seeing that number increase I don't think think outpaces the capacities that we're building or have built so that's a good thing um so but um developers have already approached us in reference to um new new pioneering uh agreements which I have not processed because we don't have the funds to cover what we aren't prepared to build and so what we've are prepared to build is the 2 MGD that we have in our cup for water consumptive use permit and water and in in March of this year we'll have probably an excess of 2 and a half MGD at the sewer plant is that about right round numb October is when we'll finish the turn PL October yes sir okay so so we also have a means to get the Wastewater to the sewer plant the stop Gap was Lift Station 72 the the future is the pioneering agreement that we did with NVR homes which was the Bary subdivision which was the $15 million sewer where we pledged the impact fees to cover that sewerman extension and then we had existing fees that covered our plant expansion on the water side of the house where we can we can manage nine cup if we have to pump that um and the water tower there the tank that we put in at Highland Lakes give us the pressures that we need on the south side of town we probably will have to revisit the the size of the pipe um between about about 33 and 48 that needs increase that was about a million dollar project because those growth numbers haven't expanded we we we kick that can a little bit the other thing I also note too is our policy for developers has been and will continue to be unless the commission directs us differently is first come first serve mind you that is different than your quasi judicial responsibility to hear subdivisions so when subdivisions come in and they're asking for an entitlement and you approve a subdivision of X units or don't approve a subdivision of X of X units that still does not provide an entitlement on the developer the next step for a developer after they've gone through the Pud phase is to develop when they develop they then have to go through a series of all sorts of other requirements through the our development Review Committee we have to check off boxes on do we have capacity is it at the plant do we have the water and so right now we're checking those boxes yes but those yeses turn to NOS when we hit those unit counts so it's about 8,000 units on sewer and it's about 2,000 units on on water and believe it or not we haven't hit those numbers yet if we continue at the current Pace that's where you know we're looking at 2030 before at least the water capacity potentially expires um so from a water sewer standpoint electric standpoint I think we're in good shape but we do need to look at impact fees we continue to progress this if the stuff on the books does grow we're going to need higher impact Fe and that's really the the cause of this so before we go off start working with Jones Edmond's agosi on this impact Fe I wanted to bring it to your attention um the other thing in there too to to point out was the 50 Grand gets us started um I really kind of want to see where Jones Edmund goes with a recommendation the next concern on that which would increase that that fee is is if we have to increase our fees Beyond 50% which cliff and I suspicion that we do then we'll have to do different studies pursuant to the statute what was it um Grant a year or so ago the state maybe two years agoo the state changed the law on the increase of impact fees so that's a significant thing for the audience to remember the state changed the requirement for impact fees so where is that coming from that's coming from the development lobbyist and I think that's important to remember too because the law is also written in favor of the developers so there's a whole another power out there besides this body that controls growth at Tallahassee that our hands are tied and I bring that up because that body the state legislature changed the rules on how Municipal corporations increase your impact fees um and that is if you increase it over 50% in one year there's a whole Litany of things that you have have to do so we cliff and I will be working with Jones Edmonds to Endeavor to do that we will try to get back uh a uh a reasonable estimate on where sewer impact fees goes if we need above the 50% level um then we'll have some more homework to do before we do that but I'll also say I don't think we're going to be in a position to issue out any more pioneering agreements until we're really set with where the impact fee is because the next piece of the puzzle is going to be not only to expand I say so in Easy language everything I'm saying is right now on the sewer and the water side of the house I think we're set because the improvements that we put in Hold Us for reasonable amount of time with the infrastructure improvements the new infrastructure improvements we've made and the units that are in the south side of leeburg that will connect as those numbers continue to increase now we're looking at different things such as now we don't have treatment capacity so that's affecting our impact fee so therefore it needs to go up so long story short we really do need to take a look at our impact fees we really do need to do this study and in the next several weeks we need to bring you an ordinance that ultimately increases the fees Al I also had a question um like as a if you look at Lake County in general where do we rank with regard to our impact fees so just so everybody knows we're pretty much the mo the least expensive so most other communities probably looking at impact views on the sewer side in the neighborhood with about 5,000 a unit and 3750 is on the water side of the house got at no RS 2700 and 1500 you going to look at will this study also look at police and fire impact I we talked about that earlier today commissioner I think it's something that you all probably should engage us to do um we we we haven't in this um but it's probably something we do need to look at as well um so if you want me to start uh grabbing some numbers on a fire uh police impact fee study I think it's probably something we need to throw in the hopper that's good Al uh I understand the Pioneer agreements uh the presentation talks about the facilities the water facility the sewer facility Does this does it are you capturing the other infrastructure uh water pipes sewer pipes that are going to be increased is that captured in this yes yes okay explanation or yes good that's perfect perfect a quick I feel obligated to tell you because so and and that was kind of goes back to this so what so the impact fee is broken down into how much does it cost to there's so there's two components how much does it cost to treat water or Wastewater how much does it cost to distribute or collect water Wastewater to today's prices divided amongst what you think you'll be serving in your in your District um the ISB have been extremely helpful with that because we know exactly the area that we'll be serving um we we know where the modern day costs are we haven't done this exercise in forever so the cost of pipe the cost of asphalt because if you cut a road you got to fix a Road the cost of buying land the cost of buying steel all that is part of the The Matrix that goes into how much it cost to do this so the thing that's been I would say easily about our impact fees at least on the on the uh on the sewer side of the house is it is it covers collection or treatment it didn't cover both because we had the villages expansion and we were able to receive some dollars we were able to make system improvements at the treatment plant that didn't impact the rate payer that allowed us to do pioneering agreements with impact fees that covered the infrastructure The Collection infrastructure once we did that last impact fee that was that last impact for agreement you add up the numbers of units that are embedded in the pioneering agreements we've hit our max if I was a gambler man I don't think we'll see development of those in the next five years I mean the world could change tomorrow and we could go and you know we could start going having crazy developing building numbers um we haven't seen it to date um and that's where we're at for now any other commissioner comments do you need anything from us as a side comment or question to you um you talked talked about 35 cosos approximately a month okay so how does that rank with the rest of the county I'm going to I'm going to find out um let me I'll I know a few of you have spoken to me privately commissioner Peterson mayor reesman uh commissioner bur um about different things and one of the things that that we will do as a staff level is we're going to present a presentation to you all on growth impacts we'll shoot to get that in in February um I I bring that up because there's a lot a lot of moving Parts in all of this you all have been bombarded with different questions and comments and obviously the puds keep coming um that is not of Staff making that is the economy and that's leberg is obviously in the Crosshair of development when it occurs is is anybody's guesss um but I think that data will be important I think it guides and so part of that is uh to to go back and review some of the things that we don't control which is collector Road and impact fees uh we don't control School Board there's some different the school board actually is with our concurrency issues is is pretty good at calculating uh who's been issuing what my guess is that our 40 units a month is probably on the low side in Lake County um my guess is it's probably lower than uh the county itself um that's speculation like to know that I will I will dig up those facts and have it for you in about a month's time um and obviously the village has changed everything um you know the villages has touched Lake County in the past 15 years twice now in Fruitland Park and as well as leeburg and frankly I don't think any development engine matches that engine as far as Spa as far as speed so if you go back and you look at our development you know the The Villages so our development about 40 units a month Village's Pace was 250 a month 250 to 300 a month and they and that's actually increased um Corey um goer our gas director has actually been dealing with that because of our partnership with the villages over in Suter County so I don't I don't you know honestly I think I don't mean this in a positive or negative way the village is special the engine that they have on development I I don't think is is is matched really by any um Municipal Corporation private you know what I ipal corporate private developer meaning KB Homes or whatever you know I don't I don't think anybody's that fast it again I don't I don't think you see leberg numbers getting up above 75 units a month perhaps but even today when you look at the things that we've approved and what's being constructed you we're still only about three major subdivisions under under works as we're talking so I want to grab all that data I'll present it to you it'll have Road data it'll have school data it have permit data have our data and just kind of lay it out for you because I think those are the principles that have guided a lot of Staff recommendation and those type of things and hopefully answer some questions for the public I got a question other than the villages what other City would you say are greater than 40 units a month to give a measure I'll say the other faster cities yeah would be Claremont and unincorporated Claremont what average would you I don't know okay um I would say uh grovelin is is faster than we are I would say mascot and minola are also also faster than us so I mean I would just encourage folks to take trips down to South County and and look at 50 encourage folks to look at 19 565 um and and and those uh other areas where where growth has hit the county I think a little bit faster than it'll probably be in your analysis or report but could you update the status of all these developments I mean I think I know but for the benefit of the public I mean I'm referring to you just mentioned three when you say three those three have broke have moved dir yeah I would you know look we have we have starts all the time but I would say the primary starts from where electric is working and and and where you see actual dirt move is uh and this is not scientific um but blue cedar is is one subdivision that just I think that was 50 acres how many acres about 100 the ex 300 units in certain acreage then they clearcut they were underneath 50 because it didn't what Cliff what were you about what were you saying I think it's 105 units 105 well don't know what units number it is um it's on my wall in my office um but blue cedar is one that's moving um that's South Way South South Way South leeburg right if you're headed south it it'll be on the east side of the road right before you get to um Royal Highlands um right after the Orlando Health Clinic that's that is clearcut they look like they're moving um Silver Lake Point which you know and and you know look staff levels we all and especially I know I do struggle with when it comes before you it's typically named after a property owner robu a RAC AUST strander and then it gets changed over when it kits DRC from the applicant's name to the development's name uh so Silver Lake Point is is one that that's on the move it's affect the electric fund um the the old golf course uh is another one that's that's starting to be on the Move um and that's Silver Lake Estates or something uh those three are on the Move um Swan capital and what's the other one over there start orange bins starting a little bit but they seem to start and not start Maron seems to start and not start uh but I would you know and there's a couple other little ones but as far as some major ones those would be those would be the three that I would Point your attention to because you know that we you know just you really don't see you I don't think you really can count on that development until they actually broke ground I mean so so Dan's been talking to to Orange bin forever and you know I don't Tiara Oaks is another great example of someone who rattles Sabers and then you know start stop start stop but those ones I named are are probably the ones that I would I would say yep that's on the move and maybe a couple of smaller ones in Sleepy Hollow any other commissioner comments thank you cliff and Al for your presentation and we look forward to getting that presentation in February we're going to move on to the public comment section this section is reserved for members of the public to bring up matters of concern or opportunities for praise please note that issues raised during this time will not be discussed in detail during the current meeting they will either be referred to the appropriate staff or scheduled for consideration at a future city commission meeting each speaker is allocated three minutes to provide their comments kindly adhere to this time limit to ensure equal opportunity for all participants and to support the efficient conduct of the meeting thank you and when you come up would you please state your name and address for the record thank you hello I'm Caroline V I'm at 120 palur again I'm a little late to the party as far as the fluoride but I'm really not here to talk about the fluoride I've actually been concerned about the city water in general just looking at how things are changing and how we're talking about forever chemicals and and I heard the whole argument about the 300,000 losing it do we put fluoride do we not put fluoride in but what I'm just trying to understand as a concerned Citizen and and someone who wants the best for my city is the forever chemicals you know are we um using some of these methods out there they talked about um like the um extra carbon uh let's see to they the granular activated carbon that can treat these forever chemicals and I know that would be something ex sure that we would do something to our water and again it would come at a cost and I was just kind of thinking did we have those discussions before we started talking about adding fluoride in now I'm not an expert on fluide I mean there's a lot of us we're not you know we know what it is we know but looking at it we know if we get too much of it it's bad and then of course we need it because we want healthy teeth but understanding that you know as a citizen I can't filtrate that out if I decide I don't want it unless I go out and spend $5,000 on an Osmosis System to um put in my home to get rid of the fluoride because my brittle water container is not going to take the fluoride out for me um those are just some of my concerns and and like I said I don't I'm I'm not I'm on the fence as far as fluoride but what I'm not on the fence about is the forever chemicals and just looking at some of our numbers out there that's online that's generated by um some of the companies out there and then looking at our water um information that was submitted for 2023 that we can access through the city and I appreciate that and just wanting to know when we can see our next um submitt because it's now 2025 so now we need to see I'm sorry it was 2023 that's online so looking at when we should get our 2024 look of our water and how many forever chemicals are in there and what is our level um because right now it kind of seems like our levels are right there at some of the highest levels that we have and that's concerning so when you start thinking about all right we have these extra chemicals then we're going to put Flora in and we have all this stuff maybe it's not just one thing but it's all this stuff added together and I don't know about you guys but I read labels at the grocery store now and it's so hard to find non GMO stuff and we start adding all these chemicals up in our body and it's no wonder that with within 10 mile radius I have so many friends that have breast cancer and you start to think is it in the water so that's just by two cents and something to be concerned about you you guys are elected to think about that kind of stuff and I just wondered if it was thought about when the whole floor thing was brought up thank you can I think city manager would like to okay yeah just and I don't I don't mean to be wordy but but again this body has kind of been inundated with different concerns and I'm going to use the word conspiracy theories and all these things and I think the times here especially with the potential appointment of RFK Jr uh to the you know federal government level to talk about health things has really stirred up a lot of concern in my professional opinion it stirred up a lot of concern needlessly um and and and I won't take those remarks back I think the way you check your local government is is to be in touch with their elected bodies be in touch with their city manager be in touch with their Public Works director this city like every other city in the State of Florida is regulated by the health department on our water on an annual basis we send that we we have to do an annual Water Report so some of the numbers that she's saying where we're super high at I don't know what the reference is because our water report numbers have been extremely good she mentions carbon and and I want to digress on this a little bit because there there's there's there's essentially two water treatment processes that the nation uses one is a reverse osmosis process that we here in Florida do not deal with with in Florida we have pretty much a pure water system we pump out of the aquafer we put it into our systems we throw it over a filter bed we airify it we inject it with chlorine we send it out into the system and that that that is pretty much the standard treatment process for Public Water Systems in the State of Florida we're be blessed with the aquafer um as the aquafer get strained I think that the the water professionals and and strained what I mean by consumption will go to lower levels and and what we find it lower levels may be some type of additional treatment process but no near the level of a reverse osmosis system so a Reverse Osmosis System you're going to find pretty much in the rest of the United States where they don't have spring water as their source and they use Reser rivers or reservoirs or what have you and that that's a that's a system that's very similar to your waste water treatment system where you bring in water into a fluu basin you add carb carbon and lime and Alum to it to create a flocku that flocku drops and so you pre-treat the water and carbon is one of those chemicals that's used um in in in surface water treatment not typically found in in wellwater treatment we don't use carbon here in lesburg I can assure folks that our water's safe our water is consumable and will continue to be so and meet the standards of the American Water Association as well as the Department of Health even after we've injected fluoride into it so I think those are the important things to remember um I know folks are reading a lot of things online and different stuff understand the worry but really the best source is to come talk to Cliff or come talk to me and we'll get you in touch with water professionals we'll give you tours of our water plant if you'd like to see how it works um but the the guys who put together the guys and ladies who do our our water do a fantastic job and um today we've had no issues with water no I'm I'm not I'm not badmouthing our water I'm not badmouthing our city and I do know that yes it it meets all the standards it does I just want it to be better in regards to the report maybe you can get with Cliff Kelce in the back and he can get you the news report thank you miss vanen any other public comments this you just state your name and address for the record my name is Alan foot and I live at 6030 Hunters Ridge Avenue in Legacy of Leesburg back in November I approached the commission about the hurricane damage at Shady Oak Cemetery and requested see if we could get something done to clear up two major oak trees that were down I just want to give my thanks because it was done expeditiously and the cemetery looks fantastic and now I can continue I do genealogy research throughout the county mainly lesburg and I'm you know with Shady being in district one uh I'm working on assistance in genealogy research there so it helps me with the think of commissioner Barry I've been able to make some contacts to learn about um you know the the cemetery and and the people within the community and now I can move on to my other projects which I do um unkempt cemeteries uh neglected cemeteries and so far the only other one I can come up with are just outside the city limits and they're in the county so those are my next projects as well as working with Lone Oak Cemetery uh with theirs but again I just wanted to thank the commission thank you for the compliment Mr foot we have the uh the best of the best when it comes to our public works department yes thank you thank you any other public comments move on to the consent agenda routine items are placed on the consent agenda to expedite the meeting if the commission or staff wish to discuss an item the procedure is as follows one pull the item or items from the consent agenda two vote on the remaining items with a roll call vote three discuss each item pulled and vote by roll call are there any items the Commissioners would like to pull 5 C7 5 C7 any other items can I get a motion to approve all remaining items so moved we have a motion and a second uh roll call commissioner conell yes commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes mayor re yes would someone please introduce 5 C7 to be introduce and has be read by title only resolution of the city Commission of the city of leeburg Florida authorizing the mayor and city clerk to execute a memorandum of understanding mou between the city of leeburg and the Lake Community Action Agency Inc for the home repair grant program and providing an effective date second so so I'm the one who pulled this um I'm okay with the with this this uh project entirely um my question was I didn't see this in years past the the $4,000 fee that's why that's exactly why I put it back on because you did see it in years past it was in years past yes so last year when we started the the the home Grant we we came before the commission and said man there's a bunch of stuff that goes along with this the inspections of it the organizing of the the contractors and subcontractors and the other Grant dollars that are matched with our dollars and we did that with the Lake Community Action Agency I felt because we expanded that program this year um from I to the $600,000 level I think from what was it 300 last year um I I just wanted to let you know that we'll be doing that again so this is an agreement that basically does year two I think we left the term clause in that a little bit more open so I won't we won't need to necessarily come back to you if there's a year three on that we'll continue to lose use uh Lake Community Action uh as that as that group um and next week they'll be making a presentation to you all to show you the success from year one so I just I wanted to put this on the radar in case that question came up to let you know that there is a $4,000 cost that's part of the Grant and again like like we did last year assuming you approved this agreement uh Sandra Wilson's in the process now of of really pulling the the folks that we missed from last year and then adding to it um so we'll bring you the new grants uh individually just like we did last year and then that's where when once we approve that Grant agreement then it's wrapped in with the the the help from Lake action Community agency and then that's where that that inspection and and administrative fee is is weaved in you answer my question thank you any other commissioner comments public comments oh sorry commission i' just like to add on that comment hopefully after the presentation others would be interested after seeing the before and afters for the first phase the first year excuse me hopefully others will one very good and it's going to affect 24 houses right isn't that the number important for the public to know that removing blight from 24 homes important thing so any other commissioner comments public comments on this item seeing none roll call commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner conel yes mayor rean yes move item to six public hearings and on routine items I would ask the City attorney if you would swear in any people for this tonight yes sir Mr Mayor thank you um all members of the audience and staff members who are here and prepared to testim testify on second readings uh item 6 A5 sunyside vew resoning 6 A8 Cronin Dewey Robinson or excuse me Cronin Dewey Robbins Spud and first reading item 6 B3 Silver Spring PUD if you would please stand raise your right hand so we can get you all sworn in all right do you swear or affirm that all testimony you'll give tonight will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth all right thank you all right Mr Mayor all set would someone please introduce 6 A1 and two to be read by title only I'll introduce ask be read by title only 6 A1 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the city of lebur changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing [Music] 131.5 plus minus Acres from General commercial transitional institutional Recreation and low density residential to downtown mixed use for properties generally located south of the lebur Wildwood Trail and West Line Street East of Perkins Street uclid Avenue and South 9th Street North of West Dixie Avenue East East Dixie Avenue and that portion of Pine Street lying east of child Street and West of Rambo Street Properties lying west of Rambo Street south of a portion of East Main Street that lies west of Rambo Street and East of North Canal Street and properties lying west of that portion of North Canal Street north of east west or east Main Street and South of the leeburg Wildwood Trail as legally described in sections 2 3 25 and 26 Township 19 South Range 24 East lying in Lake County Florida and providing an effective date 682 an ordinance of the city of leeburg Florida amending the city's comprehensive plan future land use element goal one objective 1.1 item H downtown mixed use to allow the expansion of the existing downtown mixed use future land use designation providing for conflict severability and an effective [Music] date yeah motion to approve uh 681 Dam would you come up and give us a presentation on this a second oh we need a second on that first second please thank you thank you Mr Mayor and Commissioners Dan Miller Planning and Zoning um the two items that had that the city clerk introduced to you tonight are for the downtown mixed use future land use District there are two cases the first is a map Amendment changing the map from the current downtown mixed use area of approximately 27 acres to about 130 acres and then the second would be the text Amendment which makes some changes to the wording um what you see in these as presented today is we're looking to continue to encourage economic growth and the overall engagement of our citizens in downtown Li leeburg in a live workplace environment um under the Liv example we have Apartments being constructed right now on uh and soon moving into the Main Street area in the old Butler Chevrolet building on Magnolia Street we have potential for our future proposal for some additional uh residential uses um actually apartments at the old Lee School site and we have had recent discussions about potential Town Homes um to be faced which would be to be developed which would face the Magnolia Trail under the work part of that live work play we have a lot of employees downtown we have them at the city hall here police and fire headquarters on Magnolia we have several new restaurants variety of retail and office businesses we have Beacon College anchoring the east side of downtown and then the ReUse of the Tropic theater and then finally under the play portion of the livor play idea we have Veterans Memorial Park and pond on Meadow Street three parket pocket Parks thanks to uh the city's work with Beacon college and the Magnolia trail that runs through downtown and connects to other trails in the city and then Venetian Park and Rogers Park which is just over the boundaries and and also uh Dabney pool area um if you look at all these examples of the live work and play those are all indicators of uh strong indicators of a healthy and growing downtown so by expanding the district um what we're trying to do is allow additional opportunities for housing working and recreational opportunities um in the in the general area it will not make a huge change immediately these kind of things take years to work through um but again the first case on the map excuse me the first case that uh Miss pvis introduced was the map Amendment which expands the area from the core area in downtown out towards uh Dixie back toward the railroad right away the trail over pass canal and then over towards Lee school so it goes from 27 acres to I believe was 130 131 and um then the second one of course is the wording to the amendment which changes the future land use wording basically says Downtown mixed use land use category is established to encourage economic activity leing living quarters local EMP employment opportunities within the historic downtown and it will consist of a variety of retail convenience entertainment personal business and other Professional Services as well as a diversity of housing types and churches and I can go on with that but that's about half of it there and basically what we're trying to do is encourage what was the phrase that candy used earlier today was get um cars off the road and feet on the street something like that so um we're we're trying to encourage activity downtown thank you sir thank you Dan any questions from the Commissioners for comments Dan I have one question um sir did are we amending the height restrictions for downtown and not not within that at this point I mean I know we could approve I believe we could approve something outside the the standard zoning in a PUD I just didn't know if we were encouraging like I think right now our code our land is 35 ft or three stories or 35 or 40t in um I'd have to go back and look it up and in a PUD you can go to whatever okay that my question right there deal with that okay thank you I think you know I asked that question yes any other commissioner comments any public comments on these items seeing none any additional no other comments from the Commissioners we call on 6 A1 commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner conel yes commissioner bur yes mayor reesman yes yes we have a motion on we need to oh yeah motion to approve uh 6 A2 second any discussion from the commission discussion from the public seeing none roll call commissioner Barry yes commission canel yes commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes mayor re yes would someone please introduce 6A 3 four and five I'll introduce 683 four and five ask ask that they be read by title only 6 A3 an ordinance of the city of leeburg Florida annexing certain real property consisting of approximately 2.82 plus minus Acres being generally located east of Sleepy Hollow Road and south of Park Hill Avenue L in section 29 Township 19 South Range 25 East Lake County Florida provided that said property so Annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said City providing that such annexed property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of s city as if all such territory had been a part of the city of lebur at the time of Passage and approval of said laws and ordinances providing that such Annex territory shall be placed in City commission District 5 and providing an effective date 684 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the city of lebur changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing two .82 plus minus Acres from Lake County Urban low density to City of leeburg semem Sunnyside Estates medium for property generally located east of Sleepy Hollow Road and south of Park Hill Avenue lying in section 29 Township 19 South Range 25 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date 685 in ordinance of the city of lebur Florida changing the zoning on approximately 2.82 Plus Acres from Lake County R1 rural residential to City leeburg R1 low density residential to allow for residential development for property generally located east of Sleepy Hollow Road and south of Park Hill Avenue lying in section 29 Township 19 South Range 25 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date motion to approve 6 A3 would you come up and give us a presentation and then if the applicant is here they want to come up next thank you Mr Mayor this is an quick proposal for an annexation small scale count plan and rezoning on the east side of Sleepy Hollow Road and south of Park Hill Avenue um the request is simply for a straight zoning it's not a PUD it would uh go from it would go to City R1 which is low density residential um they're asking for eight Lots basically if you take the eight Lots north of there and pull them down essentially that's what you're going to get uh 9,000 ft on these Lots where R1 minimum is s and two floor maximum height two parking spaces the same thing you'll see in often um they have also agreed to signage consisting of a decorative entry feature and they're offering a children's playground none of those things are actually required but they're they're offering that at the on the Eastern portion of the property um our dark sky lighting requirements are coming under ordinance changes so they'll be covered under there if anyone's concerned on that um this also meets the requirement of the city's new comp plan and with the Sunnyside regulations which were passed in 2024 so it's eight houses is the applicant here and would they like to say anything it's Mr Alexander train he is here yes sir if you'd like to speak would like to say anything you would you like to say anything no okay commissioner comments Dan the uh you said it's the same basic density as the property to the north yes sir and that's county is it not it's a count I believe that is County to the north um Anna we might we should be able to tell on one of those Maps I honestly I forget but it's the same density okay thank you yes sir any other commissioner comments public comments on this item seeing none we'll do roll call commissioner conel yes Commission commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes mayor rean yes's motion to approve 6 A4 second any commissioner comments on this any public comments roll call commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes commission Barry yes commissioner canell yes mayor re yes motion to approve 685 second commissioner comments public comments seeing none roll call commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner canel yes commissioner bur yes mayor reesman yes so regarding 6A or six six seven and eight do we need to introduce those and ask to be postponed yes sir and um in order read yeah just go ahead and read them and then um if a motion to postpone to a time date and location certain okay I would avoid read vertisements all right would someone please introduce 6 a67 and8 I'll introduce 6A 678 ask that they be read by title only 6 A6 an ordinance of the city of leeburg Florida annexing certain real property consisting of approximately 9.94 plusus Acres being generally located north of Dewey Robbins Road East of US Highway 27 lying in section 31 Township 20 South Range 25 East Lake County Florida provided that said property so Annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said City provided that such Annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had been a part of the city of lebur at the time of Passage and approval of said laws and ordinances providing that such Annex territory shall be placed in City commission District 3 and providing effective date 6 A7 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the city of leeburg changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing 9.94 plus minus Acres from Lake County rule to City lebur low density residential for property gener located north of Dewey Robbins Road East of US Highway 27 lying in section 31 Township 20 South Range 25 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date 6 A8 an ordinance of the City leeburg Florida changing the zoning on approximately 9.94 plus minus Acres from Lake County a agriculture to City of leasburg Spud small plan unit development to allow for 48 town homes and 15,000 square fet of commercial for property generally located north of Dewey Robbins Road East of US Highway 27 lying section 31 Township 20 South Range 25 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date so the applicant has asked for this to be postponed till February 24th and we'll need a motion stating that with um here in the city commission Chambers at 5:30 on February 24th so moved second discussion roll call commissioner Barry yes commissioner conell yes commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes mayor reesman yes would someone please introduce we're going to first readings would someone please introduce 6b1 2 and three do 6 B12 and three and ask that they be read by title only 6b1 an ordinance of the City lebur Florida annexing certain real property consisting of approximately 337 7.15 plus minus Acres being generally located west of number two Road and North of Busby Road lying in sections 19 and 30 Township 25 South Range 20 East Lake County Florida provided that said property so Annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said City provided that such Annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had been a part of the city of lebur at the time of Passage and approval of said laws and ordinances provided that such Annex territory shall be placed in City commission District 3 and providing an effective date 6b2 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan the city of leeburg changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing 33715 plus minus Acres from Lake County rule to City of leasburg estate residential for property Journey located west of number two Road and North of Busby Road lying in sections 19 and 30 Township 25 South Range 20 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date 6 B3 an ordinance of the city of leasburg Florida changing the zoning on approximately 33715 plus minus Acres from Lake County a agriculture to cfd community facility District to City of lebur PUD planed unit development to allow for 825 single family residences with accompanying amenities for a property generally located west of number two Road and North of Busby Road lying in sections 19 and 30 Township 25 South Range 20 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date thank you Andy Dan if you would come up and then if the applicant has anything after that thank you Mr Mayor this is an overall proposal for an an annexation large scale comp plan plan and rezoning consisting of 337 plus or minus Acres generally located on the west side of number two Road and North of Busby Road again it's annexation large scale comp plan and PUD zoning the request would be for 825 detached single family residences and Associated amenities uh on the large scale comp plan the request would be to change the future land use from Lake County Rural to City of lebg estate and on the rezoning the request would be to change the zoning from Lake County Agriculture and Community facilities District to City of leeburg PUD planned unit development um under the Pud requirements there are several lot sizes again 825 single family residences with no other uses would be permitted there are lot sizes consisting of 50 60 70 and 145t lots um with graduated house sizes for 1,700 18 19 and 2,000 respectively as they go up by lot size um two floors being the maximum height we do have their standard architectural standards uh facades are shown in exhibit D with the dark skylighting trees requirement in each yard 35% of the property being in open space uh 25t landscape buffer is required along the entirety of the property boundaries there is a 100 foot landscape buffer along number two Road and the 25 ft closest of that 100ft buffer that the 25 ft closest to the residential lots have to be planted as you'll see in exhibit I believe that's exhibit G um there's a split rail fence or opaque 4ot plank fence required along Busby Road sidewalk requirements throughout the development of course the usual Bea or Bermuda instead of St Augustine grass which uses a lot of water all the main access points are required to be Boulevard type roadways and a landscape median of at least 8 feet in width uh connecting them to allow and and those Boulevard roadways are to allow emergency access to get there of course the signage is our decorative entry feature 5T minimum height on each side of the driveway there's 3.92 basically four acres of recreation required in two separate Recreation areas set aside for swimming pool playground dog parks gazebos and those types of things then there's a walking trail provided around the wetlands in the northeast corner of course we do have the phasing uh clause which has been required by this commission for not quite a year now I think we're that's working out quite well requires the substantial commencement within four years or the property automatically reverts to the re1 which is one acre per unit um this pro project has been to the Florida Department of Commerce and they came back to us with no substantial comments on it um all development does have to be on City Water and Wastewater there's no Wells or septics allowed uh finally Miss Tera tedro of loung dri D caner and Reed in Orlando is here to represent the case if you have any further questions did the applicant have a presentation at [Music] all thank you Dan thank you sir good evening Tara tedro louns law 2 and5 North Yola drive here on behalf of the applicant we have a presentation I know it's by title only happy to do the presentation if you'd like us to tonight or save it for a second reading I talked with them so I'm okay okay they would like to see it okay great I think there's a excuse me Terry we'll get you a pointer I need to make correct my statement I said it had been to Florida commerce it has not um I've got so many cases going on that went through my head my apologies cuz this one have to go we'll do [Music] that I don't either let's see if not I'll just have to thank you oh it does okay let's see maybe this is feeling like an IQ test I'm not passing no it's not I'll just do the scroll with you okay thank you very much we can go down to uh two down more from here for project overview your your staff already gave you all an overview of where the project site is located you can see that there's access off of Busby Road and number two road and it also has Watson Road also adjacent to the property site it's approximately two miles north of Dewey Robbins Road and we have held two Community meetings to date we held those back on 4117 and 612 of last year there was a bit of a lag where we had submitted everything held the community meetings made revisions to our plans um but then ended up putting a postponement until we had our our last hearing before your Planning Commission the proposed project includes an annexation a future land use Amendment and a rezoning currently the project site is within Lake County if you see on the next aerial page it shows what the current Lake County future land use designation is of rural the next slide will show you that the uh zoning on the property is community fa facility district and agriculture with a majority of the project site being within that cfd zoning within Lake County's plan cfd zoning does allow for a number of different uses uses under the current designation everything from an assisted living facility commercial res uh Community residential homes schools dayc carees dorms nursing homes professional offices and colleges and universities are permitted by right today under the Lake County zoning designation uh of course our request would bring this under the jurisdiction of the city City and your regulations as well you can see that this is the current city of lesburg zoning map showing that all the properties are City puds in Orange we meet the threshold requirements under Florida Statutes chapter 171 for an annexation there's also a 2014 interlocal service boundary agreement between the city and Lake County our properties are specifically identified on the exhibits to that agreement uh as properties that are eligible for annexation into the city of leeburg for the provision of services so in order for there to be development of the project site that annexation is required as a threshold matter but again we meet both statutory requirements for annexation given our contiguity to other existing City properties as well as the fact that this has been contemplated by both the city and the county for annexation since 2014 under that agreement we can go on to the next slide so this just shows you the site plan details that we have the current site plan as you heard um from your staff has a variety of different types of housing product on the on the site we did make changes to this plan from the first time that we had brought it to the Public's attention at our community meeting to what you see today some of those significant changes uh include that we added the one acre lots along number two Road the biggest issue that we heard from residents during the community meetings was that they wanted number two road to have 1 acre lots they wanted there to be specific architectural design standards they wanted us to preserve a 100 foot setback which included 85 fet of mature tree line they wanted us to have split rail fencing and all of that we went back and changed the plan to include we changed the lot sizes as well one of the specific requests was for us to put a variety of different lot sizes along the internal Street Network so we changed the end cap to have some of the larger Lots on Street end caps we were also asked to put larger Lots around all perimeters of the subject property as well so we did increase the sizes of the lots that are on the perimeters we increased the size of obviously the lots that were along number two road we respected the buffer requests from the neighbors uh we also removed access uh entirely from number two Road So the plan was changed to have that access be routed through Whispering Hills to 27 so that is a request that of course is going to put the onus on the developer that we are either going to build if we go ahead of Whispering Hills in their project or we would tie in through a Boulevard access point on our property to the already contemplated access points through Whispering Hills so one way or another we would have to make sure that sufficient access would exist to get us out to a roadway that was not number two road because that was the biggest complaint that we heard from the residents is that they did not want us to put any Vehicles onto number two road so we were agreeable to redesigning our plan and putting again a bigger risk on the developer of us having to go through and jump through much larger hoops and and greater costs for us to do that but allowing for a better plan that the residents were able to say that they accepted and that we were able to bring before you today if you go to the next slide please again you can see some of the highlighted areas of where that uh mature tree line as well as where the one acre lots that were added um onto our property for the Pud itself the next slide please and this shows you the open space plan so today the site would be required to have 35% open space if we were in the county we're proposing 39% open space on the property and you heard from Dan that four acres has to be a combination of active and passive Recreation of that overall 39% that's being presented on the plan we have today so it's a mix of having a clubhouse a pool area with designated parking you have dog parks uh you have some passive recreational areas tot Lots but then you also have in our existing preserved Wetland Conservation Area on the project site you can see that's in the upper left corner of the Pud plan that we also have um low impact nature trails going through that Wetland area in order to have a walking Park um area for the residents as well this shows you um a street buffer view Shed from number two road so this was what we had proposed to the residents of split rail fences along number two road so that as you're driving past our project site we would have the enhanced buffer of the 15ot landscape with buffer and the split rail fence closest to the road but that we would keep in place the 85 ft width of existing vegetation which has some very nice large mature trees there so that tree line essentially blocks The View shed uh of the property itself but if you were to see the houses that we were building along number two Road through the trees the next slide shows you um what that elevation and the required facades for those homes facing number two Road were we were asked to put a more rural character so what has been presented and included uh as conceptual renderings in the Pud ordinance itself has these types of um required facades for the properties next slide shows you the review criteria that your staff went through and the analysis that they did and making a recommendation for approval we also similar received a unanimous approval for recom recommendation from your Planning Commission the next slide shows you that there is an analysis about project compatibility the projects that are closest to us both Whispering Hills and Eagle Tail both have a similar density that's being proposed at 2.4 units per acre is what the Pud would capit at so if you look from a compatibility analysis those directly adjacent projects have similar size Lots as well as um a similar density to what is being proposed today if you go down you can see too that there were multiple um yep next slide please uh there were multiple criteria uh with in terms of your consistency with your comprehensive plan elements the objectives that you staffed an analysis of in terms of diversity of housing a sustainable type of development um land use compatibility all of those were looked at and reviewed by your professional staff when they rendered their recommendation the next slide also shows you that the recommendation found that the proposed request for a PUD is compatible with the current surrounding zoning districts that it's compatible with the proposed future land use designation and it does not appear to create any detriment to surrounding properties based on the location and the proximity to Future compatible development next slide please also gone your staff's recommendation also included that we meet the requirements of chapter 163 Florida Statutes that it's compatible with adjacent future land use designations with our proposed zoning of PUD we've met the criteria necessary for that and is consistent with the city's growth management plan the next slide is if there's any questions more than happy to answer those of course if there's any members of the public here who we not yet had a chance to talk to before tonight's hearing and have any comments I'd appreciate the opportunity to come back and respond thank youed thank you any commission comments on this question for Dan I think okay uh just the requirements for this particular PUD yes sir if we compare those to the requirements we had uh for Whispering Hills because the entryway in I mean this is kind of like Whispering Hills too really uh in a way I would you could say that because this development depends on the success of Whispering Hills it doesn't happen if Whispering Hills doesn't happen or this developer has to choose to bring all the money to build the roads through Whispering Hills so they still have to work with them one way or another right so my question is are there differences substantial differences in requirements because we did Whispering Hills four years ago or three three years ago like that yeah but I mean have has we I just want to make sure we we get everything this is very complimentary um I would say that th this one does have the 100 foot lots and and I believe Whispering Hills had a few on it on the on the number two road side if I remember correctly they had a bigger buff bigger buffer and uh this one has some really nice architectural designs that that we have found okay thank you yes sir Dan I have a question yes sir the the present zoning the county is a MH and and the density on that in the county if it was developed for houses usually that's uh at a is going to be one unit per 5 Acres so if it was developed in the county they would get 6068 homes 6768 yes sir I believe that I did the math earlier today if I remember right and they're asking for 8 825 that is correct so a difference of 757 units yes sir versus V vilon County or under what the they're proposing to come to the city yes sir it's a huge difference in the amount of units it is yes sir 67 to 825 wow okay okay any other commissioner comments uh Dan one thing I just caught in the agend um in the PE and I know we had talked about I think it just got missed we talked about adding um aration and fountains to all ponds yes sir thank you um if this that was something that has been spoken about recently and I think we built this P probably off ofing Hill so we will add want make sure we capture that the requirement for sprinklers in wet ponds it just depends on because you don't always know until correct it's built will it be wet or dry the engineering is done but yes sir we will add that to those thank you any public comments on these items oh sorry commissioner Peterson comment um first of all I I I like the 100 foot uh buffer um I was just going to throw it out there I don't know where the other Commissioners stand uh but with the 100 foot buffer I don't care if there's a fence or not and I don't know how other people feel that's just my opinion thank you any other commissioner comments public comments on these items if you would just state your name and address for the [Music] record um my name is Mario Nappa 27548 Stony Brook Drive leberg first of all I'd like to commend the developer for working with the community and keeping the traffic off the number two road because number two Road really can't handle it my main comment is um you know I I don't have the number in front of me but I can come up with it if You' like is probably about 10,000 homes they're going to be dumping on to Route 27 between the uh uh turnpike entrance at 27 and for route 48 and if you count all the roads that are going to be imp all the homes that are going to be impacting from The Villages and all the new developments on Road 48 probably another six or 7,000 there so I think now is the time time to start thinking about approaching the no in the state of widening Route 27 to six Lanes from four you got six Lanes in Claremont you got six Lanes in Fruitland Park and Lady Lake and I know it's going to be painful coming through leeburg especially in the uh Main Street area in Dixie Avenue but now is the time to start thinking about uh having some action in that area and maybe commissioner Barry can when he approaches the no I'm going to do so next month or at the next uh um public meeting uh and and discuss this because um you know we can't have all these homes going in in 27 remaining the way it is because it's going to be bottlenecked that's my only comment thank you sir any other comments from the public sorry did you have something to say Grant no I was just going to remind the commission that for item 6b2 since this is a large scale comprehensive plan that there would need to be a vote on a motion to transmit to the reviewing agency thank you before we do that any any other comments before the commission uh yes as Grant said we need to have a motion to submit or not to submit so so moved if the motion is adequate we can do that the middle yeah just to clarify is that a motion to transfer to the re to the reviewing agencies so moved thank you yes sir y okay and I'll second that we have a motion and a second on transmitting to the state roll call uh all sorry I was just going to say I mean I that's a lot of units I mean it's so much higher than you could get if they develop in the county I mean you're talking 6 60 to 800 uh I just I just think it's it should just be turned down right now and not even submitted any other comments from the Commissioners move to go commissioner conell no commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes yes commission Barry yes mayor rean yes C non-routine routine items we have none seven informational reports we have none City attorney items yes sir thank you Mr Mayor uh very briefly uh at the last meeting uh the commission gave us a little bit of leeway on the Blue Rock closing for the airport parcel across the street from the airport um it looks like we are going to be able to get that wrapped up by the end of the week um so I just wanted to update everybody on that we did get the last document recorded uh at the tail end of last week uh so Mr Mayor uh will be in touch here when we have the closing documents ready uh just so we can get that signed up um but otherwise everything's good and uh just glad to see everybody and look forward to seeing you next time thank you Grant City Manager items none roll call commissioner Peterson nothing tonight commissioner be um yes I have a few things I would like to First say I I'm really excited about seeing the initiative to amend the future land use map of the comprehensive plan and the impacts of District 1 four and five and that we're all in agreement so that's a plus and I also would like to say that the um kudos to the Martin Luther King group again and for another a successful parade as well as um for I'm sorry excuse my thoughts for Simone and artist with a purpose for the soulfest activities after the event on Saturday nice very nice turnout and also for the opening of um the melon patch um theat on Friday night with been her very funny must go see and support and um looking forward to other plays to come to the area thank you m canel commissioner bur yeah I had just a couple of things I think uh if you guys had a chance Al send an email out regarding kind of holiday inish uh the uh I've had questions from folks the the old holiday in which is the sa staying safe uh you know it's been an on again off again project this is the hotel uh Griffin Road in uh 27 and I just wanted kind of an update what's going on now we all got that information Alf do you recall ex it was uh commercial space is going to go in the old building uh then it's going to be Apartments upstairs and potential commercial downstairs in the buildings that are where the hotels were 60 apartment units and different NES of stuff right but I just wanted you know the public to know because I do get questions on that every once in a while I also um kind of wanted to update on the school property uh you know kind of where we are and Al explain to me that that's going to be coming to us pretty pretty soon with a first reading of the Pud mod will be next next meeting the 10th good and hey does that go right to Second reading on the 24th then or does that hold over there's no comp plan Amendment involved with that as long as the the U Future land use change for the downtown mixed use goes through then this goes straight through as a zoning so yes because it's a potential use already gotcha perfect okay and then the last thing I I just want to keep up with the Venetian Isles I think is the name of it the Marriott property uh we had extended you know yeah you you just an upate you all extended the development Bond on that I can't remember what that that was the amount of do you remember gr it was was it 250 half a mil something like that seemed like I I don't remember the number off the top of my head it was a good number it was a pretty big electric department is is uh making improvements and and uh getting ready to help them build the apartment complex which we anticipate will go up um I think at the end of the day uh that issue of uh the bond expiring it probably be on your desk again because the way the development order reads between the developer and the electric department is that they're required to build the infrastructure and that was the hotel the commercial pad sites and I there was a number of buildings I want to say there were nine buildings or so in that in that commercial PUD in all honesty I don't think they will meet uh the requirements of that agreement and and your expansion unless they start moving faster than the villages um so that'll be on your desk again and to consider whether you want to uh Grant them another extension or you know a grant and a talk um but that might be something where we might just want to scratch that agreement and start a new um but we'll we'll cross that bridge when we get there so we've got I think you guys extended that back in the summer so August June July years okay I was going to say I thought it was two years okay so it's got another it's got another healthy year on it anyway and that's all I have mayor reesman I have a few I'll save the fun stuff for last um I'm getting a lot of uh requests for statements regarding growth um development things like that I wanted to see if the commission agrees we could ask the city manager to um create a draft statement on behalf of the commission so we can have like a united front on what our state our beliefs are on that that way when we get asked we can present that I wanted to see if the commission would be okay with having the city manager do that it depends on what you mean beliefs obviously we have have different beliefs when it comes to development so I I would probably object to that if it appears that I'm in agreement with some of the stuff that goes on here and I think I think we could maybe see what city manager comes up with and yeah I think you know so this has been brought up to me by a few the Commissioners um you get me you get consistent media requests about growth I think most of your answers are typically the same I'm happy to draft a statement for you bring it to this body and you all vote on it um and and I think that's where the mayor's headed so if you all don't agree on it or what have you but I think you know a joint statement would obviously need to be reviewed by the body you all vote on it if you all agree on it then that's the statement if you don't um there'll be VAR parts of it or however we can modify it but I'm happy to put something together and bring it to you the next meeting if that if that's where y'all want to go question may we look at this after you provide the listings of where we are with growth comp comparisons saying earlier the count where we are for the other cities in the Cy I thought you mentioned earlier about just where we are for us growth number one number three number four I think she's referring to the presentation next month yeah I will get you I can get you out a draft statement I don't know if they need to correspond exactly because they're around I can get you an idea um but why don't I'll send out a draft statement to y'all take a look at it and email me back email me back separately and then you know if I get three people that say yay we love this I'll have it on the agenda if yall say no this is horrible then I won't is that reasonable um yeah and I'm just on the same subject matter I I am uh I'm all I'm fine with you having a a summation but I'm also well aware that all our commissioners have a voice and just because someone may not agree with what others agree with there that should not be seen as a muzzle or you know that they went along with it you know I think everybody should be able to have their opinion about that I think that's real important and that can be worded in the statement as well exactly um upcoming events I wanted to let the Commissioners know is February 1st is the Fishers of Men the north Florida bass tournament at the Venetian Gardens and and on February 8th hope to see you out at the lebg airport uh from 10: to 2: for the food truck Flyin we have 10 food trucks they'll be in our parking lot and then we had like 60 to 80 aircraft show up last time and we're anticipating more hope to see you out there and then also on Friday night I had the pleasure of attending opening night with uh commissioner Barry bur and our city manager and their spouses of the melon patch it was a great night I also attended Saturday and Sunday and spoke and kind of got listened to the feedback from the people at attended and it was a wide variety of leberg surrounding residents and Villages and they were very appreciative that the city of leasburg invested in the Arts and they are excited about it and they said they love the villages but they like getting out of the villages and they are excited about coming to downtown lebg they think our downtown is phenomenal and they are excited about everything that is happening uh with that that is my final umotion to adjourn second meeting adjourned