##VIDEO ID:y9_-OCJT-FY## operating expenses which is the recommended minimum by the government Finance Officers Association for counties okay um total adjustments for the other funds is approximately 7.6 million which includes 1.9 million in Grant reconciliation adjustments approximately 8 million in beginning fund balance adjustments for revenues that exceeded actual expenditures um more than we projected in fiscal year 2024 um it incl in an increase in infrastructure sales tax revenues over projections um which resulted in additional funding um it's been allocated for a sheriff's warehouse and machinery and equipment for Fleet and fire services and we have about 417,000 in other adjustments that are primarily related to final property values and ALS adjustments um from the final property values and updates for personal services all right I will turn it over to the chairman to open the public hearing all right we'll open the public hearing is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak about this budget amendment seeing none we'll bring it back to the board oh online do we have someone yes there's one person online Eric Portnoy you should be able to unmute your mic and please state your name and comments to the board Eric your mic is muted you may have to unmute your mic there we go Eric poro thank you for taking my call um I apologize I had some technical difficulties earlier this morning um I'm calling in to see if tab three was approved yes yes yes okay thank you so much thank you for your time okay any other okay all right then we'll bring it back I just want to um make an announcement you know it may sound kind of weird to some of the people that were going through midyear adjustments and that's because we're on a fiscal year not a calendar year just to make that clear to everybody out there that this is a midyear adjustment but we actually started in September October October yeah October first so okay just to clarify that for people all right do we have a motion and and with that I like to make a motion that we approve okay do we have a second second all right all in favor say I I I oppos okay moving along then to tab 17 this is uh recommend approval and Adoption of an ordinance amending section 10.0 1.03 in Chapter 2 Lake County code append C Land Development regulations entitled accessory dwelling units and definitions and section 22-14 Lake County code entitled refund of impact fees paid hey this will be an ordinance of the board of County commissioners of Lake County Florida amending the following sections of the Lake County code appendix Z Lane development regulations chapter 2 entitled definitions section 10103 entitled accessory dwelling units clarifying the definition of an accessory dwelling unit amending section 22-11 Lake County code entitled wer or deferral of impact fees and accessory dwelling units removing Provisions for waivers amending section 2214 Lake County code entitled refund of impact fees paid providing for a refund if a primary structure is demolished after construction of an accessory dwelling unit providing for severability providing for inclusion in the code providing for filing with Department of State and providing for an effective date if you choose to approve this today it become ordinance 20254 all right we'll open it up to the public is there anyone here that wishes to speak about this ordinance Amendment anyone online we'll bring it back to the board need a motion for approval motion to approve second all right all in favor say I I I any opposed all right moving along then to tab 18 Fred Schneider assistant County attorney will present this um request for vacation of a ploted park a little tiny platted Park good morning in fresh our assistant County Manager uh this is vacation petition 1301 um the petitioner is James panaco registered agent pevco represented by Ray bradock PKA Orlando uh the areas in Mount Plymouth area of Lake County Commission District 4 um this is in the area of the roads within Mount Plymouth this map um Mount Plymouth was platted I think around 1926 so the plats about 100 years old um the golf course that was there uh went defunct about 15 years ago and um uh developers come in and been approved uh for single family home lots on the old golf course so what's taking place is um 1974 when the golf course was still operating they vacated the the road rideway that went through the golf course which you can see out closer in the upper left inset and then there was a little triangle piece right next to Prestwick Avenue which was a platted Park from 1926 or four whatever whenever it was platted so that wasn't that wasn't vacated at the time uh but the developer is requesting the board to consider vacation of that area right now uh according to the county attorney her opinion on this is that the public interest in the park could be vacated but like other parts of a vacated plant the residents you bought under the plant may still have private rights to the Park area but so the request would be Dev vacate the public interest in the park it's about 12200 Square F feet so it's it's not significant we spoke with office of parks and trails um they didn't have any concerns or issues I haven't we have haven't received any objections or anything like that from we've had some calls from residents but no objections um the reason talk about this one a little more than other ones is I can't recall another public park that has come to the board for requesting vacation I've been doing this for eight years and I can't remember one before that so this is kind of unique um but that's the area there and the area in the hatched area was uh vacated previously in 1974 and then the little triangle area in between the the rideways is being requested for proposed vacation so staff recommends approval of the vacation so I did get an email um from someone in that area that did not think it should be vacated for the benefit of the developer um so I just wanted to make that known I don't know if you all received that as well um my issue is mainly the fact that when this was rezoned to PUD when Fred referred to they've got approvals um we went through a lot of conditions that the developer was supposed to adhere to and I feel like I mean we haven't none of those things have come to fruition as far as Road improvements traffic calming and the people in the community are very frustrated by that so I don't want to muddy the waters here if this a this little triangle piece that's going to um somehow require County maintenance and then create problems for the public to take care of this I I I feel like it's probably in the Public's interest to get rid of it but I want to State on the record that um I wish the developer would uphold the things that he said he would do out there um they there was an old clubhouse that they had to do some testing on and they had to remediate and there's a holes and there's like ATVs that ride out there it's just like ongoing problem in the community and we can't get the developer to be active in his enforcement of not letting the ATVs ride all through the area area so and I don't know I I had asked Melanie a while back about um you know what if anything we could do did we have any recourse because we did approve the Pud um could we force them to but I think the improvements were tied to them actually developing lots and they haven't done that yet and Fred's shaking his head because they haven't developed Lots now will this little triangle if it's vacated turn into a part of private property it'll become so the road was vacated so this will be a lot like part of a lot you know I didn't I didn't look into it that far um but it wouldn't be in the County's Public interest any longer so it could be open area I I don't recall where it is within that PUD is what I'm saying I don't know what what they've got in mind for for that particular area but it could be part of a retention Pond it could be be you know part of a lot I would think with the private rights that still arguably exist even if you vacate it that you might not be able to make it a lot because that might create a title problem for somebody buying it so maybe it just would become like you said part of a retention area or something like that so I I think this may be a question from Melanie can can we um make a decision on this based on if the developer follows through with his previous commitments historically we have not conditioned vacation petitions um I'd have to look into it you could certainly postpone it we could pull the Pud and look at um what they were supposed to do and the timing of it if you'd like to do that um it it's possible that we had our three-year requirement that they have to start construction within three years in that PUD but as I had sent out to all of you I think a month or so ago with the consistent state of emergency extensions that we have in Florida Statutes they've probably repeatedly asked for extensions which really sort of decimates our ability to get rid of puds that aren't moving forward um but if you would like to postpone it you can postpone it to the next meeting or another date certain and then we could pull that PUD and bring you back more information and since they applied couldn't we as part of this postponement say developer can we please sit down and talk to you about these things that you were going to do that haven't been done so I I would like to make a motion that we postpone this uh that we table this until not yet I'd like to make a motion that we table this until the next meeting okay and I believe we have the developer owner here maybe but we got a motion on the table we do but in the I think it's in everyone's best interest to hear what he has to say then we need a second and he can do it during discussion okay do we have a second second all right we have a second so during discussion we're going to have the developer give us his thoughts on this and before he comes up when you say the next meeting are you talking about February 4th which is your rezoning meeting or do you want it your regular board meeting on the 11th the next board meeting the fourth next one we're together okay uh question for County attorney would we have have to read vertise the legislature added language a year or so ago I think maybe two sessions ago where as long as it's done to a date certain you do not have to read vertise okay and then we have uh staff brought up a copy of the Pud so that area Falls within two platted lot areas so right Canen show me again where that is oh right here yeah it shows on their it shows on their PUD uh that that area is going to be between two lots but the public RightWay doesn't show on their approved PUD so Fred can you put that on the screen this is uh this may be the construction plans so we can't see it that's not working okay there's no screen operating here it goes oh well it's up there can you pull it up on the individual monitors please Eric okay so this is um Anglewood Street which comes in right here so on the other side would be the park so right here where this where the uh island is supposed to be installed for traffic coming right right in this area is uh where that platted Park is did you see what I was pointing at M right here so probably something like that and what is that a retention those are what you have here is your you have a Swale down into a retention so yes retention right yeah right here I can't zoom in and out I don't know if this is working but that's a like a Swale that drains on down to the storm water pond backyard swes and Fred could you just show again one more time where the triangle is it on on that one no no no I'm sorry yeah on that on the one that's up yeah that would be right here and it's about that size what where you're that's yeah okay so the developer has some insight to help us with navigating the situation cuz we get complaints all the time about the fact that when the remediation was done out there on the old clubhouse that it was never cleaned up and there's big holes and the people ride the ATVs all over the place and it creates Havoc for the neighborhood and and then people residents ask me why hasn't the traffic calming been constructed per our condition in the Pud and maybe you can help us well first of all I'm Ray bradic uh 11:37 Edge Water Drive Orlando Florida uh chairman Champion we've been working on this project for 10 years that's how long it's been going um as far as us working to help alleviate the the residents we had a meeting in fact last week with the sheriff's department uh trying to deal with the uh four-wheelers and the dirt bikes um we've posted no no trespassing signs uh they've tried to control it it's hard to control it's happening all over that area in the old uh lake bed of Mount Plymouth Lake that's that's another popular place that they go to so what we worked out with with the sheriff's department uh last week is uh we posted no trespassing signs but they say no trespassing signs only give them the right to sight somebody and if if they can catch them uh so what they're going to what we've agreed to now is we're going to convert the no trusting passing signs to construction zone no trespassing because then they can actually con confiscate the motorcycle because that's a felony not a misdemeanor trespassing is a misdemeanor uh so the sheriff's department is working out the the proper signage and notification excuse me that we we have to give uh on the signs to make sure they adhere to uh the law we're going to post the signs they have to be within 500 ft of each other so we're going to post them around the total perimeter of the project um as far as why the project has taken so long it's because of the mitigation we had to do for the Arsenic that was on on the property originally um uh we spent in excess of $800,000 remediating the Arsenic that was on that site um it was very difficult it took years and years to get the Department of Environmental Protection to approve and clear everything through the state um now that's done uh construction will start within the next couple months on on the site improvements which will include the paving of Exmore all the way from uh 435 to sax Maxon it'll include all the traffic cing devices that that were approved as far as as Park is concerned nobody has figured out why that triangle was put there back in 1923 when the plat was recorded maybe it was a a a entrance sign Monument or something that went there originally but there there was there's nothing there at this point as far as what will happen with that area that 12200 ft as part of the platting of the Lots the county is requiring additional 8 ft of rideway to be dedicated so 8 ft of that Park will become County rideway the back of those lots has a landscape buffer requirement because because when we went through the Pud uh that was a double Frontage lot and as part of the conditions we had to make sure nobody could have a a driveway coming off of Prestwick the drive has to come off from the north so another 10 ft of that old park will become a landscape buffer and so what's left after all of this is done of that 1,200 ft that will become it'll be in on one lot itself there's only one lot that that the triangle actually ends up in there's only like 3 or 400 square ft left after all that dedication is done so I would like to see us get this thing processed so we can get moving uh there's been I've met with the residents out there I'm in very good communication with Joanne mayard and the rest of the uh the associ Jason out there they were at the meeting we had last week they know we're trying to help them and as soon as we can get construction underway then those uh borrow areas that we had to use in order to to do the mitigation for the Wetland I mean for the Arsenic will then be converted in part of the storm water system so it'll be graded you'll have construction going on out there at that time uh there'll be a lot of activity that will then reduce the probability of people wanting to be out there riding on that I mean it's an ideal spot and the you know the people that use those things are find trying to find places where they can go out and play around on the weekends and after work but once we get the thing under construction which this will help do to get this this park vacated we can then turn that into what it was supposed to be which is you know a subdivision which was approved okay that is really helpful and this is really good news because this has kind of been a thorn in my side for a while because it's dragged on for so long and um glad to hear that you got your remediation finally I mean it it was the one of the hardest projects I've ever had to try to get approved as far as through this nobody had any idea the depth of what that arsenic did because of those uh sandy soil generally arsenic only goes down 3 or 4 ft we had areas 23 and 24 ft deep that we had to excavate mix all that material and then spread it back around so that's why the time delay in getting the remediation done happened we should have been constructed and gone 3 years ago well I'm so glad to hear that xmore is going to be paved and traffic calming is going to be added it's all going to go in we just got to get this is our last piece because we need it in order to record the plats you know that vacation needs to happen I'd hate to see a delay in this we've been would been so in and thank you very much appreciate your input very helpful I'm wondering if the commissioner who made the motion and second if we might yeah we got a motion in a second to table all it's got to do is fail and then another motion to approve it all right well all in favor of the motion say I all oppos say I I all right now we need another motion uh then I'll go ahead and make a motion that uh on the information we just heard that we uh I make a motion that we approve the vacation second second all right all in favor say I I I passes unanimously thank you appreciate it Madam Sher if I could really quick um just a shout out we have a a new employee that I know is in right of way Eric White Eric White is right there I just happen a point of of privilege here I guess just have known him as an intern and then uh uh working uh diligently around the county so um he's involved with right away and I think you were probably involved with this case so um yeah so I I thank you for allowing me to do that but I just wanted to congratulate him welcome to the county thank you appreciate it um other business um tab 19 request approval to reappoint members to the pnz board board representing Lake County School District to serve a term ending January 31st 2029 and that would be Molly Cunningham and Bill Mathias is the alternative school board representative move approval second all in favor say I I tab 20 uh request approval to appoint a member to the affordable housing advisory committee to serve terms as indicated below a resident who is actively engaged in real as a real estate professional in connection with affordable housing and that would be viven Cunningham the term would end 11 3026 move approval second all in favor say I I I then uh board discussion um this is the request uh to reappoint Gary Cooney Lake County clerk of the circuit court and comproller and um Allan Hayes Lake County super of Elections to serve on the sales C tax oversight advisory committee and as you know this is a committee that we have to set up every year to look over the applications that come in from the cities um typically the role of that committee is to make sure that it complies with the requirements of the sales tax rules not whether it's necessarily a great project or not it's does it comply and what has to be done to make it comply that's my my experience with that move to approve I'll second all in favor say I I all right tab 22 request appointment of a commissioner to the lead board of directors to fill a one-year term and I was going to recommend that commissioner Morris take I'll make that motion I'll second all in favor say I I I thank you regular agenda tab 23 Jeff aart Public Works engineering director uh to go over resolution supporting Lake County list of projects to be included in the lake Sumpter MP list of priority projects uh good morning uh Commissioners Fred schne assant County Manager I'll cover an initial part of the presentation and then J Jeff aart is going to follow up with the list of priority projects that uh we request the board to send to the mo for future funding um so one of the things that we want to do today is uh talk about County Road asset our Capital program operations maintenance Revenue sources and our work program and um about three years ago I gave a more in-depth presentation on transportation funding and our roadway assets so there's a couple slides that I've updated from then but um typically when we talk about road construction and maintenance they are core functions of County government and the Public Works Department's respons for the planning construction and maintenance of the county road infrastructure so some of you have seen this slide before our Lake County roadway asset I've been updated a little bit uh it was from tares to Boston now it's from tares to north side of Boston but we've got about 1,291 road miles and converted to Lane miles that's 2800 so a four lane road a mile of that is four lane miles if give you an idea what we're talking about Lane miles so the the bigger number just tells you how many lanes that you have in Miles uh some of the things that we do uh road maintenance elements pavement shoulders our clay roads we got 100 miles of those curbs storm water system sidewalks guardrail our bridges mowing tree trimming traffic signals uh this is the list of the roadway asset asphalt 1,69 miles tar and gravel concrete clay well about 110 miles traffic signal we maintain 233 traffic signals got over 38,000 traffic signs 27 Bridges um about 18 of those are what you think of as normal bridges over waterways and those kind of things and then there's some other ones that are very large covert systems and dependent on the size of the covert and the width of them and where they're located they also are classified as Bridges by Federal Highway Administration all our bridges are inspected uh on a regular basis through the Florida do program and so we get those those reports regularly from them we've got 240 mies of sidewalks and 20 mi of guard rail if you put those end the end um on the right is a 455 extension Ray good game Parkway we're just finishing up another segment of for Ling of it and then uh on the photo below is scoffield Road in Wellness sway area uh that was open to traffic and it got a lot of traffic just seemly overnight where we going down to look at that commissioner um on our Capital program the transportation construction program uh is our five-year work program so it's adopted annually in September and it has the capacity projects with is construction of new road alignments adding Lanes to existing roads intersection improvements anything that would add capacity City to a roadway or segment of roadway or adding a new highway or roadway is a is a capacity project and then safety projects is our our sidewalk signals guard rails those kind of things we do uh uh also we have multi-use trails in that work program and the funding sources for that are the transportation impact fees sales tax and fdot grants and then on the right you see North Hancock Road in that photo at 5 61a uh like many of our I would say probably all of our four-lane roads New Roads that we've built um new alignments were public private Partnerships so that one there was a public private partnership with Del Webb for the first segment going north of 561a and that was completed a year ago and then the next segment currently is under construction on our public private partnership with the Sugarloaf drri Sugarloaf development and that segment road is uh was bid by them at $20 million uh we received $2 million for legislative appropriation the do to finish the trail up from North Hancock Road over Sugarloaf to 455 that's going to tie into the Scenic Overlook and so the other $18 million is going to be uh Transportation impact fee credits so a lot of these roads and we require them to donate the right away so they donate the land they donate the storm waterer ponds and sort of a a partnership of 50 50 then we'll give them credits for design engineering construction permitting and that kind of thing but uh it would be a lot more a lot more cost if if we had to go the the other route of purchasing right of waste but it's a win-win for both uh they get what their development is uh they're currently in the city of minola by the way so they're in the city of minola along with Del Web those are City development approved projects and then as far as operations and maintenance um that's Public Works operations traffic operations engineering involved in that uh it's maintenance of traffic signals sidewalks a clay road shoulders tree trimming stripping and signage roadway surface and it devolves engineering our road resurfacing program and we also have our Construction Group does this contract baiting inspection Administration and that's funded from gas tax sales tax Transportation impact fee uh which is used for design and project management of row capacity projects uh General fund was provided toward the resurfacing program beginning fiscal year 22 and so on Revenue sources you kind you seen this slide uh a few years ago I I'll just go over it briefly again so those are our typical or those are our Revenue sources that we we've had and I what I did is I I I gave you a 30-year shot at 1994 to 2004 because I have a explanation I want to follow with this but the gas tax is uh which is transportation trust fund that's in the blue you can see how it's um fairly steady uh mstu roads uh that's the roads park stormw mstu that's not the mstu that was being discussed earlier but that's a countywide mstu and it was used briefly in 2007 to20 and then again um this this year uh there was 500,000 of it put into Road resurfacing we had a resurfacing loan that was in 2020 2021 5 million it was 10 million we spent 5 million each year uh ADV valorum which is um recently as I mentioned it's starting in 2022 those are dollars that went to resurfacing sales tax um in the green sales tax we we use for cap you know construction projects so it could go to traffic signals or matching do funds so when do gives us a grant they often require a match if we can't match it with impact fees we're going to match it with sales tax so that's that's where a lot of the sales tax goes um then the road impact fee you can see um like we had a a large amount of Road impact fees that came in early 2000s and then um you can start seeing around 2007 it was the indicator that something was going on that there was something happening the road impact fees started lessening before I guess the rest of the rest of us knew there was a something coming so that's a good indicator sometimes uh but what we have today is you know the one thing this doesn't show on road impact fees it doesn't show those developer agreements so uh far as credits that developers are pulling it it just shows the revenue and like the cash Revenue that's coming in it doesn't show the credits that are being used so the the actual impact fee is likely to be higher than what's shown on here um I didn't show that on here but you know it's developers pull build roads and then they pull each unit whether it's commercial site plan residential they're not putting something into the County's fund they're just drawing down their credits so but it works it works for the county because we get a road they have to finance the construction of the road and somehow manage to get their money back over the next so many years or five or 10 years as they as they build out and then on top of that would be grants um we although we do have some grants that we got in 20 that don't show on here it's just the funds that came in uh for instance we got a grant last year I believe it was 3 million Federal grant for 466a uh we already had program for that 3 million from do for 466a uh dot didn't like the PDN study that was done 20 years ago by the city of Fruitland Park and requested that would be redone so we're currently um finishing up Contracting to have the PD updated that's a half a million dollars that we have to spend to satisfy do on that and once we get that then uh finish it take about a year then we'll be able to draw those $6 million and get that last piece of 466a finished so those are the kind of things that happen that don't necessarily show up on this on this chart one thing I wanted to point out was the transportation trust fund gas tax what's happened to it over the years everybody's aware of of uh the gas tax for the counties and cities the dot you know 30 some years ago they indexed their fuel tax to inflation so they're not they're not hit hit by it but counties and cities are so what you're seeing here is is um what would the what would be the purchasing power of the current pennies of gas tax that Lake County receives in today's in today's dollars if if we were if they were 1994 purchasing power it'd be about double what it is today and so what's happened over the years is you know when I first started here 1992 and then over the '90s early 2000s we had a very strong say clay to pave program we had we did paveed shoulders with gas tax we did a lot of things with gas tax but over the years you've had to replace that with other sources and so that that's what's happened with um with with the penny gas SE now we get about 10 pennies per gallon some of that shared with cities um uh and but overall all it it this last year it was about uh 14 15 million in the gas tax revenues but but that's what we use primarily for operations and maintenance so we contract out about 50% of our work for operations and maintenance for um you know this isn't resurfacing resurfacings come out of sales tax this year in a general fund uh we we you know we can no longer we just can't use that gas TX for anything more than operations and and maintenance and which is the salaries the staff Administration contract Administration um we I think I mentioned we put about 50% of our our work out to to contracts to vendors but that that's what's happening with the gas tax and this this affects everyone so what happens is you got inflation but then you've also got electric vehicles of course they don't buy gas so they're not they're riding the roads at not paying any kind of road maintenance on it and our hybrid vehicles so cars have got more efficient vehicles got more efficient over the years back quite a bit um but and uh so for that reason you've got more cars on the road but they're not paying per gallon you know that can go further on a gallon so is what I'm saying so again the factors affecting the gas tax revenue population population increased gallons of fuel sold increased County pave road miles went up this is going from the year 2000 now 19% fuel defici went up 41% so fuel efficiency is up 41% that's data from uh the federal site U inflation 51% increase so as I mentioned so that's that's one of the area we talk a lot about capacity we need capacity on roads we we need to resurface our roads but but there's still there's still an area of operations and maintenance that that really need to pay attention to as well and so the list of priority projects Jeff Art's going to come up he's going to talk about the list of priority projects and how it fits in the work program and this list is um they're not currently funded but we're some may be on our impact fee program but we're also trying to go through the lake Su no for some of those high dollar projects and ask for them to to fund it through do program and if that's the case then we wouldn't have to fund it at impact fee we could there's PL air projects that we need to do so if we can find alternative funding sources through the do the n processor grants we we want to do that so here's Jeff can I ask a question real quick though on the indexing to inflation um has fa ever taken that on or is it just a non-starter oh yeah F almost I don't know I'm not sure about this year but every year they TR they try to has there ever been a compromise like presented that maybe you don't Go the whole I don't know um I that's a good question uh it just seems like with so many transport Transportation needs in the State of Florida with so many people moving to Florida local governments are really you know getting hit and I think there I think there um I think the yes it's been a fact issue uh for a number of years I think they maybe the legislator side is they're they're saying it could be viewed as a tax you know I mean that's going to be the argument is is the consumer impact even though they do it but they did it and they do it yeah but they're not going to allow the local roads to be able to be addressed yeah I know I that's a good question may somebody could find a tradeoff somewhere um it just I will ask about that I think we should ask great question Jeff fairart engineering director thank you Fred for that great um introduction about where some of our funding comes from I'd like to talk a little bit about the uh list of priority projects which I will probably use the acronym Lop so just get used to all my acronyms Engineers like to use them and see Jennifer's already heard them um I do want to introduce that I do have Mike Woods that was gracious enough to come he's our Lake Sumpter Mo director so um Mike is right there so um any hard questions we will certainly direct to to Mike um I did want to talk a little bit I'm going to I'm trying to confuse you a little bit we're going to talk about three different lists pretty much first of all we developed this list of priority projects we're going to talk about this list this is kind of like that wish list everything that we might want to do that we might want Federal funding for or dot cooperation one goes on this very large Lop list dot then takes that list and they develop a fiveyear work program that they kind of go out and they kind of look over the five years they allocate the monies and they kind of we look at what projects they might want to cooperate with us on and we submit those our Lop list to MMO they give it to do they kind of come up with that now in cooperation with all of that the county also has its fiveyear work work program so if if if the dot gives us funding we try to prioritize those in our five-year work program but there's also projects on our five-year work program that we are doing 100% with County County funding so you have three different lists you have this large Lop you have the dot fiveyear program you have the county five-year program and um so that's kind of what we're talking about today so I hope that confuses you so you don't ask me questions so you have the long you this 25 year year plan you have what the county wants and this the CM the CMP this goes into that Lop you that and then that goes into The Five-Year Plan kind of graphically what I just um said you agree Mike yes sir okay he he agrees um just want to give us some words here to look at so we're looking at the Lop defines what the priorities might be considered um they try to take it down to the fiveyear it uh it's they also have this physically constraint where I'm going to talk a little bit about that is dot looks at how much money they have so they put together a five-year plan and they actually do a 20 a 30-year plan that says it's physically constrainted what can we possibly do within 30 years for funding and then if everything on the lot might not make it onto that particular plan so as we take a look I I kind of like this this graphic it it it it kind of speaks to me it kind of we see between the the plan from that was 25 to 45 they were guessing in the 117 million range would Pro be the money that might be coming to facil to work on that 20-year project the program that they're working on now that every year that long year BL program is updated so in 2050 they've changed that project projection that there may be 44 million available so basically in the on the order of five years theyve reduced it by 62% what they think that do or the federal government might be able to participate with the county on these particular fundings um they have the same thing on on the bridges they've reduced that about 20% so just just kind of give you a flavor of um funding and how this might tighten in some of the other Graphics that you'll see later on so we kind of we look at here what what has the county received from do or from the federal governments in the in the coming years you can see the first 25 26 27 we're in that $10 million range and then you you can kind of see the 28 29 30 it's gone down to to zero or or very little I getting that and that's probably related to that long range Transportation plan it's also related to the legislature has um asked dot to prioritize resurfacing of of roads and keeping this the dot roads at a certain level so there's and of course the gas tax information that that Fred um talked about um I put this one partially on for for commissioner mois because he likes numbers and um what I really want to focus on is that that that Top Line matches what you just saw then we have a lot of money that comes from Impact fee districts um the the the rate that we're collecting is now the same in all the impact fee districts but the South was collecting a lot more and it still is because there's more more more development then you have some other sources of funding and you kind of see we got if everything happens right this year we got 64 million then it goes down to 30 million but then those outer years you see we're down in the in the tens of tens of millions just kind of give you an idea of how that comes across I wanted to give some some optimism by showing some projects that dot is cooperating with us on and some projects you may know about and how they are moving forward um this is Citrus Grove Road um you see phase phase three phase one phase 4.1 have already been built the road going over the turnpike that's under construction right now it ought to be complete um in just uh by June probably and then s in Phase phase two we did get um well actually minola helped get 8 million from the the the state to help construct that that construction should start soon but of course since we got the 8 million the price on that has probably gone up to 16 or or or 20 million so there's some cooperation going on there now we also did get a $1 million of federal government for some CI on that project um Fred did show the picture of um North Hancock he showed how Dell web built the first part um Richland or Sugarloaf Corporation is building the next part we did get 2 million um Federal money um Federal I believe it's Federal it could be state federal okay and um that cost about about 20 million there so that's that should also be done by the end of the year I'm hopeful like June June to August for that one to be done and open um hook street is coming up now we uh we've had this on for 50-50 cooperation about 5 million fit 22 2.5 million from the state and about 2.5 million from us the estimated is for construction is up in the 21 million range now for the whole the whole bit so we're looking at kind of do it in in sections maybe from um Hancock over to ail ji as the first first section but we are cooperating we're leveraging our our funds here you can see Villa City Road this is a Safety project when we asked for this money um to do everything that you see phase one two and three was about 3.5 million since then that price has gone up to to 7 million um there's not additional funding from from the state or the county to meet that so we're kind of prioritizing doing the work in those curves on Villa City Road because that's where the the the most um accidents are occurring um if you have heard about uh yor road we have a 50/50 on this maybe a little bit little bit more the the bid came in at 8 million we're redesigning this and trying to to to make this commit a little bit um more financially attractive it can we go back to udor Road sure sure when are we going to stop talking about this road what it's been forever we need to get it going well but the bid came in for8 is Mount Dora I know that but like d more than double what it was supposed to get it done right get it done get it done get it done get it done yeah we're we're right now we're redes we we're trying to do a roundabout up north on Short Short Street to try to get theot to come down a little bit on the price then we'll rebid it next year next year did you say next year that's what I said we been waiting 10 I know if you give me $8 million I'll build it now you know um the serrento realignment that's that's that's going on we've gotten matching funds for the RightWay acquisition for this particular one uh the construction our latest it's is 8 million could could be could be higher um some of the development out there might help when they when they start happening um um Round Lake Road we are getting about 13 million um for this for for RightWay acquisition which in the middle of of acquiring that the construction on this just to do the part that hasn't built yet is about 38 million if you want to do the whole section from the County lineup is about 85 million this is where I come in and say we're going to do a bake sale so that's that's my that's um the the next this project is we've also been talking about a long time this will finish the four laning on 466a um the federal government has has given us 3.6 million we've got about 3.6 from the state that will will the county will make up the rest they are requiring us to update the PD in order to accomplish that so we're hoping that construction on this will start next fiscal year um 455 we also have a 50 we have some RightWay money coming from dot on on this one and um we are trying to work on prioritizing that little bit of section from L Lake down to um John's Lake because that's kind of been the the rest of it goes down through through CeX and we're working on the St John's permit for that right now so hope that was exciting for you it was for me um the uh so the request what phases of projects are we trying to construct it's it's they don't do very many PDN anymore more they will fund studies they will fund design they will fund construction they will fund right of way that's kind of what we're looking for DOT to help us fund and they'll funded on most any types of projects but they do like um capacity projects ones that decrease congestion ones that increase safety um those are the type of projects that we kind of Lo like to focus on and Mike can talk a little more that if you have any more questions um what we're really asking today is to approve the Lop list this is just a list off of the uh some of your favorite projects maybe Beyond these lists um was going to talk a little bit about them but I think I'll just um let you guys look at them assume you've assume you guys looked at them the like the number one on the list is uh 44 that's the 44 in Mount Dora that's the one that's it's just so congested and Brit Road being knocked out has made this so much worse I get complaints about this on a regular basis I believe they're resurfacing it now right that really helps a lot I mean that's great but this is for widening it would be better if they took that money and used it to widen it and to get this project done it's been on the books for many many years it's very frustrating yes um number three is sidewalks they've all been been designed they did find one that 800,000 in that year year three that was for that for that logous sidewalk um you can see that this list also goes between Lake County and Suter County as far as the priorization number five is 441 that's the widening up up in leeburg number seven is the 441 widening in in Mount Dora number eight is the additional two lanes on on Wellness Way going out uh Round Lake Round Lake Road this is the the request for construction that 38 million and um so there's a a lot of stuff and this is what's actually made on to the top the top 20 and as you can see the ones that I circled are the ones that they actually funded this this last go around so they probably funded maybe two or three million worth of of projects um so with that I'll just kind of let you guys this is also on the Lop list these are just kind of the top the top 10 that were on the uh L list that you guys had in your in your things to look at so just want to mention that partnering with do is extremely important we we we consider them a a very critical partner with getting our projects done um you've heard that funding is is limited you've saw that gas tax is limited the money from do is limited impact fees are limited and we're trying to not we're trying to capitalize and leverage those funds as much as we can we are looking at that fiveyear planning Horizon so once you get get on that five years it's pretty it's pretty optimistic three years is really good five years are probably going to happen and um it is an iterative process we work together with what do is funding what what what our priorities are what the cities are doing we try to work together to leverage all those um funds so with that I'll open it up for any questions and you guys have had the Lop list and I think all we're doing is approving the um Lop list to be trans transmitted to the npl I just have a real quick question um on our ft 5year funding plan um in year 2020 is this is the fifth year 2021 this is the fourth year 2022 this is the third year are we tracking the funding as the years click down we I mean we could have a five-year plan but if it doesn't happen Happ in five years and that plan's no good right so we got to be able to track it we we we have our five fiveyear plan every year we update our fiveyear plan with What DOT is is is funding yes can can we all get a copy of that from 2020 up to 2025 yes you can thank you you want to look at what actually happened yeah because you know we're getting just hit all the time about transportation and this will show help us show what's actually been funded and what's the state doing what we're doing and the roads that we're working on and the plan and how it works yes sure commission Parks yeah one thing um a couple maybe question points but to what you just said commissioner one thing that's been very helpful for me um particularly like with Claremont and minola is um Jeff and Fred do uh will do incredible maps for you that you can give in handy like because I get a lot of questions from City council members so you hand them the map that shows all the projects the it has they'll do it they're loving me for saying this now you got to do a bunch of more maps but we love Maps you do but but it's something you hand them and you say here's the latest and greatest it has when it's funded when a construction's anticipated to be to be started any other information that's on basic information about what the project is so that that might be helpful you know to you and the other districts just putting that out there um yeah I'm Wonder that's not a bad idea I wonder if we can break it down to commissioner District yeah see I know you'd love me for that that's it's very helpful though it is you take it to your councils and um can you put up slide nine just that this might be more of a comment but off of previous discussion um so if you see slide nine uh the the revenue sources and if you had a line that was uh you could show the actual cost of all these projects it would be like way above that and accelerating the Gap would be growing a lot larger correct that's just the ability I can probably talk about it more but I think the red line is like the what that what we think that Penny would would buy or that dollar would buy is is the red line but in but in reality construction inflation has been higher than CPI inflation so you but I mean if you had a if actual cost to do those projects that line would be yeah it would start out there at 94 and but by the time you got up to 20 24 or 25 this would be like it'd be like up here yeah we'd be off the page yeah so you know just to point out and the these are all the different sources and going back to the days of remember the capital capital facilities Improvement board that was made up at met many months over many years several years very conservative board I mean met made up of like some of the most conservative and business business Minds for years and they I'll never forget because they always said over and over again portfolio of options so you you balance out your funding sources so so they're not all in one basket like impact fees or or um you know waiting for the for the state to give you money and so they they recommended and so you know previous conversation mstu and mpus were a part of that recommendation even back then as to help cover the cost because they even then there was a recognition that there's all these roads that costs that are like 700 million and we we don't when we have so such a limited ability to collect on that to collect enough Revenue to meet those project needs so you have to put your you have to diversify your portfolio of funding options so I just never forget that that that was msus and mstu weren't just a as I told people in my district just a like a Shawn Parks thing that goes way back way before me even definitely as an option on what do you think about putting that board back together I I reviewed what they did it was it was very intensive of their thought process yeah I mean I it I have I always like input from the you know the business Community I know they were frustrated a lot of it didn't get done but it but it but it did in the last three years we finally started pulling some out of adalum and that that's really what they said recommendation yeah they wanted a diverse source of revenues and the only one that we were really missing was the adum right and we're not where we need to be but again we're getting there it's everybody's buying for those same dollars but um yeah you can look at the little pink section in 22 23 24 and starting to do more yeah so that's just something to keep in mind as we move forward to the budget process that up until then we really weren't pulling anything out but and I think that the public needs to understand that just because it's on a priority list this is this is the part didn't understand you have a priority list well in business priority list is one two and three it might be moved around during the year depending on funding so yes you're at Priority One there's no funding for it we need to do it but we have funding for priority three so and that would be good to explain that it would be and and also if I can just point out to that discussion about Revenue sources and to your point about uh growing uh and using more of the Ador I think the recommendation was get to eventually get up to 8% of our general fund so this is the other side of the big growth issue and frustration with why aren't roads catching up and so on so forth and if we grow our economy the right way in Lake County and we we're not going to we're not a board that raises tax rates and tries to look for you know additional taxes and things out of the out of that are unnecessary but if we're able to grow our economy and we're able to stay committed to you know spending 8% out of ad forum for the roads it'll probably help us catch up a little more right and and the key to that is having commercial industrial exactly the right it's not all falling on your residents absolutely yeah exactly who have homestead exemption exemptions yeah and what may help you is I've had Fred come to several meetings of of of mine to explain the road process so maybe if you're in uh up in your District I have a date coming up don't we Fred we're going to spend an afternoon together going through talking about talking to Residents though so you you hold a meeting and he'll bring in little boards and stuff and do this presentation so it'll come out to your constituents what we're actually doing for the roads and i' I've done that in the past perfect thank you just one more question um and um Fred makes sure he buys you lunch when he drives you around for a while I always buy I think take that you buy him lunch there you [Music] go uh just a question about G Army Rogue what's the latest on that what what what is the stage I know that there had been some engineering uh if you look at garmy Road um you you'll see that traffic backs up now all the way to 27 um for that this the three-way stop sign yeah um garmy is about at the uh 50% level of plans it did just get funded they that's one of the projects that dot funded this year and I believe it's 20 27 or 2 I think it's 20 to 26 I think they they funded it so now we have some Cooperative funding for for garmy okay so I would expect construction to happen in 26 all right I just wanted to ask about that yeah right number is number 16 I I circled it I didn't tell you what year it was but I'm pretty sure it's 26 you circled it that's why I asked so I'm pretty sure it's that's it got taken off this list because a lot we were going to do it with just County funds but do did um give us 50 50% of that so okay 26 is when construction should start we still have we're still working with the uh HOA because we're going to have to get the right away from them CU when they gave the golf course when the city bought the golf course they gave it to the HOA that's right that worked out okay all right thank you you're aware of the city of leeburg South of the city of leeburg the the traffic patterns how bad they are also I know it's state road right 27 yeah do you and I guess the no's working with the state on those issues we uh there in addition to our list that we're approving do funds their own projects with this and all that comes through right yeah we're also I think we're meeting with leberg is it this week tomorrow tomorrow we're meeting with leberg to talk about some of those issues tomorrow just just so you know commissioner me and Fred spent eight months to get a flashing light on 27 right next to the plantation was it eight months or was it almost a year close to a year for a flashing light so and I'm sure that uh commissioner Campion would agree with me that we sure would like to see some movement on UD Door Road yep first time I'm hearing this so the request to approve the L your question answer all right all right thank you for that what about you door I'm just kidding yes what about you Door Road um okay great so that that concludes the presentation correct we don't have to take we don't have to take action do we or we do we adopt adopt resolution supporting Lake County list of projects the Lop so we need a motion I'll move for approval I'll second that approval all in favor say I hi okay great moving along to the county attorney's report if we could we have tab 25 that was an addendum oh right okay KB okay this is on the um keep Lake Beautiful Committee and um we've got um a spot for one elected Municipal representative Judith Fike with a conflict waiver city of grevin council member would fill an unexpired term ending May 31st 2028 and then we have a group of Citizen representatives and I'm really glad that we have a lot of people who have applied um we've got some really excellent I mean all of them are all of them are good really appreciate their interest um I would recommend Terry Fister Seuss and Mark Rabinowitz would be my recommendation and move to approve second all right and does that include uh wait a minute yeah Judith Fike for one yeah Judith fik right from okay with the conflict waiver all in favor say I okay what's the conflict waiver again or what's it's like a general description means there's something what what is it exactly Melanie can you explain waiver I I know what that means I just want to so for instance since Miss Fike is an elected representative and we do business with gr and we have interlocs and things like that we go ahead and have them do the conflict waiver under the ethics code Co thanks just to say yeah you just acknowledged that things could come up potentially yeah thanks um all right so that was 25 um we approved 24 now we're going back to County attorney report County Manager report nothing commissioner sabatini nothing for me commissioner Parks yes chair thank you uh want to just remind everybody the Ferndale uh meeting is tomorrow it's yeah tomorrow night Wednesday night so um looking forward to that please come on out um want to also say that I enjoyed mascots 100y Year celebration uh this past Saturday they did an incredible job uh celebrating 100 mascot is 100 years old this year um if you miss that one they'll not to worry apparently there'll be at least two more throughout the year they're going to party all year long so um they did a great job though so um do want to also just to give a shout out to um to David who we acknowledged earlier and he's here I he here but I just want to thank for 45 years of service or he's in the back okay missing him wherever he is thank you very much he's right there through the window he's in the dark window okay all right there he is all right that's where I thought he was I don't know why I was looking over here uh uh but David thank you very much um uh you've done such a wonderful job and um uh thanks for 45 years that's it okay and commissioner Smith yeah I've got a couple of things um the first thing I guess is for Melanie or Jennifer how are we coming along with our line item request of the Constitutional budgets being put on the uh trim notices so I I need to talk to the uh new property appraiser about that however I don't believe that we can put in a separate line item Budget on the trim notice I believe that is mandated by the state of what the trim notices look like so all we can do is add the insert that explains it right we going to we did last year we did the dollar bill graph like yeah you were going to we were working on something different we're going to we're going to tweak it a little bit and and come up with more of an explanation this year now that we can work on it we have time to work on it last year was kind of last minute and we threw together kind of a tweak of the dollar graphic but we're going to have more explanation this year on the insert that goes to the property appraiser to be included with the to be inserted in so it's not actually on the trim notice it's just a company that's fine as long as the citizens know where their their money's going that's all I care about thank you for asking about that um I would say that I would have joined commissioner parks on Saturday but I had a wonderful day at the city of tares for their Arbor Day celebration uh city of t do you plant any trees I I got two trees it's too cold to plant them right now so they're they're tightly nled at a nice little warm place getting watered it's um I got a couple of um crepe myrtles uh so uh very happy that it was very informative they had owls out there and birds and explaining what the birds do and how they hunt and so uh next year if you have the opportunity to go to Arbor Day I would highly suggest it uh I have had a meeting with uh go sports that was very productive uh that that's going to be coming up to the commission here pretty soon I also had a meeting with the hotel years uh within uh Lake County and um more information's coming on that on some of the things that we're doing uh with them had a meeting with ls SC Lake Suter State College on on moving forward on a couple of plans with them um uh I met with the Lake County rowing Association and with the um Economic Development uh Ryan Richie we have big opportunities um to bring something uh National here to um Lake County through the Lake County rowing Association uh could be a permanent thing for us uh which would be very exciting and would absolutely ramp up some of our Economic Development efforts here in Lake County um as you know I'm on the TDC board so that's why I'm highly in tune with that uh let's see here I met with uh uh homes in Partnership on some of the initiatives they're doing an extremely interesting U uh organization and it's uh good to get to know a little bit more about what they do and that's it until my last thing all right um commissioner Morris well mascot I was down at mascot the afternoon I guess the Sean you had the morning I had the afternoon and all I can figure out at the petting zoo is that my new granddaughter is probably going to have a turtle thank God she did not want a pony but the turtle she really liked but uh they were they were really excited that we would spend the time down there with them and it it was an exciting time I'm glad they're going to go over a year celebrating it um Lake Sun State College um I had a meeting also with them regarding the Legends way Fields we're trying to come with some kind of scenario that is a win-win for everybody including uh the county so uh I don't want to step on uh commissioner Smith's toes but I had the relationship there serving On The Board of Trustees so uh I kind of pushed a little harder that way um met with the sheriff it was very um informative uh we we did go through the budget and I think that we've got an analysis that's coming to us that's going to be a little different than it has been in the past um there are a lot of things that that our Sheriff gets blamed for that he has no control over so um the dollar bill might be split up a little differently this year possibly I asked them to come with uh uh additional information to help explain their uh budget process um lastly what secondly uh affordable housing that was a uh that's a very passionate committee I will say um very very good meeting and lastly Mr Selenas I cannot thank you enough for for fiing all the uh debris questions and uh taking me out of the hot seat but you did a great job thank you great um and I just wanted to mention that I had gone to the uh Martin Luther King uh breakfast celebration over in leeburg and they just did outstanding job um the school board superintendent Diane corn was there she spoke um the speaker this year was phenomenal um just everything about it was it was it was exceptional really enjoyed it and was glad to be there representing you all and um read our um Proclamation at the event on behalf of the whole commission so now I will kick it back to commissioner Smith to tell us what today is so I think uh commissioner Morris will be very happy with this uh today since you you brought up your granddaughter's new uh pet today is address up your pet day all right so put a bow tie on the turtle and let's go where do you find these I'm so curious oh he doesn't he won't give up that's yeah is it is it an official list is it an official list do we need to approve that as probably it's the commissioner Smith list okay everybody well um appreciate it good meeting and uh we're getting out before 11 o'clock which is do I get kudos for that commissioner Smith yeah all right okay we stand adjourned ER