>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.   WELCOME TO OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. A SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP OF   2025. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO  THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HERE   AS WELL. WE ARE GOING TO GET   STARTED HERE COMMISSIONERS I   APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALL HAD OUR BRIEFING WITH THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND WE   APPRECIATE HIS TIME  AND SOME   OF US HAVE MET WITH HIM AND OUR STAFF AS WELL AND HAD THE  OPPORTUNITY TO BE WELL BRIEFED  ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS  BEFORE US TODAY.  I DO NOT SEE  ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO THE INFORMATION  WITH ANY INFORMATION COMMENTS  AND MORE OR BE OUT OF HERE IN  TWO HOURS OR LESS.  ON AGENDA   ITEM NUMBER ONE WE HAVE A GREAT SUMMARY THAT WAS PREPARED FOR   US. BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE STAFF. IN AS MUCH  AS   WE REQUESTED INFORMATION ON  ITEM NUMBER FOUR WE ARE ON PAGE 28 AND I WOULD LIKE TO   ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I RECOGNIZE SOME COMMISSIONERS ARE OUT OF   THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW.  FOR   OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND   FOUR FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.    COMMISSIONER MADDOX IS BACK. ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE I WOULD  LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THE MOTION   FOR OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR?  >> MADAM CHAIR WE ARE PREPARED  TO DO A PRESENTATION PRIOR TO   THAT. IF IT FITS THE PLEASURE   OF THE BOARD.  >> WE WILL HEAR THE   PRESENTATION  >> AND MORNING TEMPERATURES AND WELCOME TO YOUR FIRST WORKSHOP  ON THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET. I MAY AS WELL GO OFF SCRIPT RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING.  I DON'T   KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING THAT  FEEDBACK BUT COULD YOU HELP US  OUT THERE IN THE BACK?    NORMALLY WE LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK  MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BUT  NOT IN THIS CASE.  CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU   COMMISSIONERS AGAIN AS I HAVE   SAID I'LL GO OFF SCRIPT RIGHT  OFF THE BAT IT WAS BOUND TO   HAPPEN ANYWAYS. WHEN I SOLD   BRENTZ ON MY WAY AND IT   REMINDED ME THIS IS THE FIRST   TIME WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER SINCE THE APRIL 11th RAIN EVENT.   WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH A NAME FOR THAT RAIN EVENT BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY EARNED A   NAME. I WANTED TO QUICKLY   ACKNOWLEDGE AT THE RISK OF   PREEMPTING COMMISSIONERS   BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE   ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY   AND THROUGHOUT THAT EVENT. AND  CERTAINLY GOT TO SEE THOSE   RESPONSE EFFORTS THROUGHOUT.   I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE  WORK OF OUR STAFF BRENT POWELL  ANDREW LIGHTLY AND THE WHOLE  TEAM OF PUBLIC WORKS.    CERTAINLY MATT CAVELL AND ALL  OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE COORDINATION EFFORT THAT  TOOK PLACE. LIKE ALL OTHER  EVENTS WE WILL BE LEARNING FROM THIS ONE  AND WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TIME TO CELEBRATE AGAIN   THE EFFORTS OF OUR STAFF. AT  THIS POINT IN TIME WE WANTED TO QUICKLY ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE   EFFORTS WE ARE STILL DEALING  ITH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WITH  LOCALIZED IMPACTS AROUND THE   COUNTY. I DID WANT TO  ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE EFFORTS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. WITH THAT, GREAT   JOB TO ALL OF THOSE IN   ATTENDANCE. COMMISSIONERS I   WILL GET US STARTED HERE. A   REMINDER AND YOU MAY NOTICE  FROM THE FOLKS ASSEMBLED AROUND THE TABLE WE DO HAVE A TEAM   HERE WHO ARE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.  JUST A REMINDER YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER  WORKSHOP IN JUNE  IN THAT  DIRECTION WILL BE RECONCILED   WITH MORE REFINED REVENUE AND  EXPENDITURE DATA THAT WE HAVE   IN DETAIL THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. AT THIS TIME THE  BOARD IS PROVIDING  A LOT OF   BALANCE AND FUNDING PRIORITIES  WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT  WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD IN A VERY DELIBERATE MANNER AT   VARIOUS STAGES THROUGHOUT THE  BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.   WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID WE  WILL GET THE BALL ROLLING.   SHONDA BRADLEY WILL FOLLOW ME   WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THE BUDGET OVERVIEWS. WITH   THAT, IN RECENT YEARS AS THE   BOARD IS WELL AWARE WE HAVE   BUDGETED OUR WAY THROUGH A   GREAT RECESSION NATURAL   DISASTERS AND A GLOBAL   PANDEMIC. AND MOST RECENTLY  THROUGH HISTORIC HIGH   INFLATION. THERE IS NOT A LOTS  THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN OR BEEN  ABLE TO ADDRESS EFFECTIVELY.   WITH AS MUCH STABILITY AS   POSSIBLE TO THE TAXPAYER AND  THE CENTRAL QUALITY OF SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS.  THIS BUDGET  IS BEING DEVELOPED AMID ITS OWN UNIQUE CHALLENGES WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY. IT ALSO   FOLLOWS A TRADITION IN MAKING   PRUDENT AND TIMELY DECISIONS   WITHIN THE BUDGET PROCESS TO   BEST POSITION THE BOARD TO   ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AS WELL AS ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT WE MAY   NEVER FULLY BE ABLE TO PREPARE  FOR BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY   ENCOUNTER IN THE FUTURE. I   WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE STILL EARLY IN THE BUDGET   DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND  PAINT SOME BROAD STROKES OF   WHERE WE ARE AT THIS TIME AND  PROVIDE A SNAPSHOT OF THE   PROCESS GOING FORWARD AS   REFLECTED WITHIN YOUR MATERIALS  THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET TAKES A RESPONSIBLE AND CAUTIOUS   APPROACH ANTICIPATING MODEST  PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GROWTH FOR FY 25 AND BEYOND. AND YOU WILL  CERTAINLY SEE THAT REFLECTED IN YOUR MATERIALS. IT ALSO   ACCOUNTS FOR CONTINUED HIGH   INFLATION. WE ANTICIPATE TO BE  WITHIN A CONTINUED HIGH   INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT IN FY  25 AND PERHAPS BEYOND THAT AS  WE MAY PERHAPS HAVE A LAG IN   RECOVERY THERE.  IT ALLOCATES   THE ARPA FUNDING WHICH HAS BEEN CRITICAL TO OUR BUDGET   BALANCING STRATEGIES OVER THE  PAST FEW YEARS. YOU WILL HEAR  ABOUT $57 MILLION WITH THIS   BUDGET THAT CONTEMPLATES THAT   LAST CRITICAL FUNDING LEVEL AND IT ALSO PLANS FOR CONTINUED   LEGISLATIVE MANDATES AND COST   SHIFTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.   CERTAINLY AS THE BOARD IS WELL  AWARE WE CONTINUE TO KEEP YOU  MONITORED THROUGH THE  LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT WE  WERE CERTAINLY SPARED THE   IMPACTS THAT WERE PROPOSED   DURING THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND LOOK QUITE LIKELY TO PASS   WHICH WOULD'VE HAD CRIPPLING   IMPACT AND NO HYPERBOLE THERE   ON THIS PARTICULAR FY BUDGET.  WHILE WE SPARED THOSE WE FULLY  ANTICIPATE THEM TO BE   REINTRODUCED IN THE NEXT  LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND BEYOND. AS SUCH CONSTRAINING   EXPENDITURE GROWTH WILL BE   CENTRAL TO PROVIDING THE   MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO THE   BOARD NOW AND IN SUBSEQUENT   BUDGET YEARS. WHICH MEANS THAT  WE DO OUR VERY BEST TO ENSURE   YOU HAVE AS MANY OPTIONS AS   POSSIBLE AND AVAILABLE TO YOU   TO DEAL WITH A SIGNIFICANT   FISCAL IMPACT IN ANY BUDGET   YEAR. ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE   IMPACTS OCCUR. GIVEN THE  LANDSCAPE THAT WE FIND  OURSELVES IN TODAY. WHILE   CONSERVATIVE THE PRELIMINARY   BUDGET IS SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THE MOST PRESSING ISSUES OF THE DAY AND PROVIDE FOR DIVISION OF QUALITY  FOR CITIZENS AND   CONTINUED ADVANCEMENT FOR THE   BOARD LONG TERM GOALS FOR THIS  COMMUNITY. HIGHLIGHTS OF THE   BUDGET AND A BIG DISCLAIMER IS  BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN. AT   THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS IT   INCLUDES NO CHANGES IN THE   MILITARY FOR THE 13th   CONSECUTIVE YEAR WITH NO NEW  TAX OR FEE INCREASES OF ANY   KIND REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET.  NO NEW GENERAL REVENUE   SUPPORTED POSITIONS SO YOU SENT A VERY CLEAR FRAME WITHOUT LIEN OF AN APPROACH WE ARE TAKING AN IMPORTANTLY SUPPORT FOR THE   SHERIFF'S BUDGET AND THAT PAY  PLAN THAT WAS INITIATED YEARS   AGO WITH THE LAST YEAR AND THAT CURRENT PAY PLAN IN THE FIRST  YEAR OF THE SHERIFF'S MINIMUM  $60,000 STARTING PAY  FOR   SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AS PROPOSED WITHIN THIS BUDGET AND   PRELIMINARY BILLY BALANCED   REFLECTING THE STRATEGIC  PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD  AND  THE CONTINUED FUNDING FOR HUMAN SERVICE AGENCIES INCLUDING THE  ESTABLISHMENT OF LINE ITEM   FUNDING FOR THE EMERGENCY HOME  LIST SHELTERS AND ANOTHER  PERFORMANCE  DETAIL COMING AT  YOUR JUNE WORKSHOP. FUNDING TO  SUPPORT THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE  INCREASES 0.5% WITH AN AVERAGE  OF THREE AND OTHER OF COURSE   ESSENTIAL AND STRATEGIC   CONDITIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THE    DEPARTMENT WE DID PROVIDE AN  ANALYSIS OF THE COST OF THE 5%   ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THIS PAY  INCREASE WHICH THE BOARD DID   APPROVE OVER THE LAST TWO  BUDGET CYCLES. AS SUCH OPTION   FOUR IS INCLUDED SHOULD THE  BOARD DEEM IT WARRANTED TO   CONTINUE THAT FOR THE UPCOMING  YEAR. THE OVERVIEW ITEM ALSO   PROVIDES ANALYSIS OF THE DEBT   SERVICE SCHEDULE AND OTHER  ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO GO  INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS THE   BOARD DESIRES. THAT IS A VERY  HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW AT THIS  POINT IN THE PROCESS. THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT DETAILS THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING   THROUGHOUT AND I WANT TO   EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE EARLY ON  IN THE BUDGET PROCESS BECAUSE  WE WILL BE SPENDING  A LOT OF   TIME TODAY FOCUSING ON THAT   DETAIL THE BUDGET AND THE   PURPOSE OF THIS WORKSHOP IS TO  CONTINUE TO SEEK PRELIMINARY   GUIDANCE THROUGHOUT THIS   PROCESS. THE JUNE WORKSHOP WILL BE PRESENTING A DETAILED BUDGET BALANCING STRATEGY  SHOULD THAT BE NECESSARY. AND BY JUNE WE  WILL HAVE THE ESTIMATE OF VALUE FROM PROPERTY APPRAISERS AND   ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGET  OFFICES  AND THEY WILL HAVE   BEEN SUBMITTED BY THAT TIME.   THEY WILL HAVE COMPLETED THE   ANALYSIS AND OVERVIEW OF ALL   DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS AND   CAPITAL PROJECT REQUESTS. ALL   OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE   AVAILABLE IN JUNE AT THAT   WORKSHOP. FINALLY I WANTED TO  REMIND THE BOARD THAT TODAY'S  WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED FROM 9:00 UNTIL 3:00 BUT AS THE CHAIRMAN  NOTED I'M SURE YOU WILL NOT   NEED ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT  TIME AS WE ONLY HAVE A FEW  DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THE BOARD  TO CONSIDER. HOWEVER WE DO HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS THE BOARD DOES  DESIRE. ANY ADDITIONAL POLICY   AND GUIDANCE YOU PROVIDE FOR US TODAY WILL BE REFLECTED AT YOUR JUNE 18th WORKSHOP. AS A RABBIT MY COMMENTS HERE DUE IN NO  SMALL PART TO A LONG HISTORY OF VERY THOROUGH PHYSICAL PLANNING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MEET   CHALLENGES THAT COME OUR WAY    WHATEVER THEY MAY BE WAS  DRIVING TO SET THE STANDARD OF  PUBLIC SERVICE AND PERENNIALLY  BEING ONE OF THE MOST EFFICIENT AFFORDABLE AND RESPONSIBLE   LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN FLORIDA.   THAT NEVER CHANGES. THE STRONG  FISCAL FOUNDATION HAS BEEN   ESTABLISHED OVER MANY PREVIOUS  BUDGET CYCLES USING BUDGET  DISCIPLINE  AND SOUND PHYSICAL  PLANNING AND THE EMPHASIS THAT  WE PLACE AN ORGANIZATIONAL WIDE FOCUS OF INNOVATION, COST   SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCY. OF   COURSE THAT LEVEL OF EFFORT IS  CONTINUOUS. WITH THAT I WOULD   LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK  ALL OF OUR COUNTY STAFF WHO DO  PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS ON  A YEAR-ROUND BASIS INCLUDING   WHERE SHAUNA BRADLEY WHO YOU   WILL HEAR FROM JUST A MOMENT   THE DIRECTOR OF OMB AND HER   TEAM FOR THE CONTINUOUSLY   EXCELLENT WORK.  FINALLY I LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD FOR ALL OF   YOUR POLICY GUIDANCE AND   DIRECTION IN YOUR CONSISTENT   LEADERSHIP INCLUDING TODAY WITH YOUR BUDGET GUIDANCE AND THE   DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PRELIMINARY BUDGET. I WILL HAVE THE SELF  KNOW IT WE WILL PROVIDE   ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THESE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE WILL   HAVE THE BOARD SEEKING  DIRECTION TO INCLUDE FOR YOUR   CONSIDERATION TODAY.   >> EXCUSING MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR? WE HAVE A   QUESTION DIRECTED TO YOU.   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND   GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.   ADMINISTRATOR THANK YOU.  BECAUSE NO DOUBT WE HAVE ALL   HAD PRELIMINARY BRIEFINGS MY   INTEREST TODAY IS THE   SCAFFOLDING TO CARRY US IS  WELL-PLACED.  TO THE EXTENT   THAT YOU CAN FORESHADOW NEXT   YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE MANDATES    THAT MAY CONSTRAIN STREAMS OF   REVENUE. AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ALL LOOK INTO THE FUTURE FOR US I  THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO THINK  ABOUT AS IF WE ARE IN 25 AND   NOT 24. THANK YOU SO MUCH.    >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.   FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER  THE CURRENT ECONOMIC OUTLOOK AS WE ARE DEVELOPING A BUDGET. ON  A NATIONALLEVEL THIS IS THE  FINAL YEAR OF THE ARBOR FUNDS.  REVIEWS ARE $57 MILLION OVER   THE PAST FEW FISCAL YEARS AS   REVENUE REPLACEMENT AND TO   SUPPORT THE CAPITAL PROGRAM   WITHOUT THOSE FUNDS  WE   WOULD'VE BEEN FORCED TO CUT   AND CAPITAL PROJECTS. THIS IS   THE FINAL YEAR  GOING FORWARD  WE WILL BE FORCED TO CONTINUE   CONSTRAINING EXPENDITURES TO   NORMAL GROWTH IN GENERAL   REVENUE. THIS YEAR WE UTILIZE   $1.9 MILLION IN FUNDING.  I'D  LIKE TO REITERATE THAT IS GOING FORWARD. MOVING ON TO INFLATION WE ARE CURRENTLY DOWN FROM THE  PEAK THAT WE EXPERIENCED  IMMEDIATELY AFTER COVID-19. IF  YOU RECALL AS WE WERE PREPARING WE ARE STILL ABOVE NORMAL   LEVELS AT ABOUT 3 1/2%.  THIS   WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST AT   NEARLY 4%.  CURRENTLY IN THE  BUDGET WE ARE STILL FEELING THE IMPACTS OF INFLATION AND THE   PRICE OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.  TO ADDRESS INFLATION DURING   THE PANDEMIC THE FEDERAL   GOVERNMENT AND RESERVES   INCREASE INTEREST RATES AROUND  11 TIMES.  BARRING CALLS GO UP  AND BASICALLY SPENDING GOES   DOWN. ULTIMATELY THAT RESULTS  IN LESS TAX COLLECTION FOR US.  IN THE MOST RECENT MEETINGS THE FED HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE   CONSIDERING LOWERING RATES AT   SOME POINT THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THAT APPROACHES SLOW DOWN IN   RECENT MONTHS. AS INFLATION IS  CONTINUING TO UPTAKE EVEN FROM  FEBRUARY TO MARCH THERE WAS   STILL A SLIGHT INCREASE SO WE   ARE NOT SEEING INDICATIONS THAT THE INFLATION IS GOING DOWN AS  FAST AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE   WOULD WANT IT TO.  ON A LOCAL   LEVEL WE ARE STILL EXPERIENCING EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE JOB   MARKET IS. LOCAL UNEMPLOYMENT   IN LEON COUNTY AVERAGE IS   AROUND 3%.  THE COMMISSION IS  TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND YOU  HAVE IMPLEMENTED A COMPENSATION STUDY WHICH MADE OUR SALARIES   MORE UP-TO-DATE WITH THE MARKET AND WE ARE HEADED THAT WAY. YOU APPROVED A 5% PAY INCREASE   ACROSS THE BOARD OVER THE LAST  FEW YEARS AND YOU ALSO BE  CONSIDERED GOOD HITS BOOTS TO   THE EMPLOYEE BENEFIT POLICY.   LOCALLY AS VENTS  TALKS ABOUT   THIS LEVEL ARE PROPERTY VALUES  WERE AVERAGING AROUND 6% AND  THIS YEAR WE ARE PROJECTING 6  1/2%.  THAT IS REALLY LOW IN   COMPARISON TO OTHER GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING A   DOUBLE-DIGIT INCREASE. SO WE   ARE MODERATING TO WHAT WE   CONSIDER NORMAL GROWTH FOR US.  BUT THAT BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE  ECONOMY WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT LEGISLATIVE IMPACTS THAT WERE   SPOKEN ABOUT AS YOU KNOW THIS   YEAR WE DID DODGE SOME OF THE   MORE DRASTIC IMPACTS AT $23  MILLION AND WE HIGHLY   ANTICIPATE IN THE COMING YEARS  THAT THESE ISSUES WILL BE BACK. THE BUDGET WILL BE CONSERVATIVE WITH THAT IN MIND BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT THESE ISSUES WILL BE  BAD. THE FIRST ISSUE ISTHE FRS WHICH WAS A PROPOSAL TO   RE-IMPLEMENT SOME OF THIS FOR   THE RETIREES. A 9.6 MILLION   DOLLAR IMPACT TO THE BUDGET.    WE ARE EXPERIENCING NORMAL  GROWTH AT ABOUT 2 1/2 MILLION  DOLLARS BETWEEN US AND THE  CONSTITUTIONAL'S. THE   ADDITIONAL 25,000 HOMESTEAD   EXTENSION WOULD'VE HAD $1   BILLION OFF OF THE PROPERTY TAX VALUES THAT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN OVER $11 MILLION AND THAT   IMPACTS WOULD'VE HIT US IN FY  26. THE WATER AND SEWER   SURCHARGE PROPOSAL WOULD LIMIT  THE UTILITY PROVIDERS FROM   CHARGING MORE THAN 25% FOR  CUSTOMERS.  AS YOU RECALL THE  INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ALLOWS  THEM TO IMPOSE 50% SURCHARGE IN EXCHANGE FOR THE USE OF CITY   RECREATIONAL AMENITIES.  WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE THAT WE WILL   WANT TO RENEGOTIATE THIS   AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD'VE   IMPACTED US BY 2.6 MILLION.   LUCKILY WE DODGE THESE ISSUES   THIS YEAR. BUT WHAT DID PASS   WAS A HOMESTEAD ADJUSTMENTS    AND ANNUAL INFLATIONARY   ADJUSTMENT THAT WILL BE ON THE  NOVEMBER BALLOT. BASED OFF OF   OUR CONVERSATIONS AND   CONSIDERING THE CURRENT CPI IT  COULD RESULT IN OVER $350,000   OF IMPACT ON THE 26 BUDGET.  IF IT PASSES WE WILL HAVE TO  ANTICIPATE THAT. AND THE   DIFFERENCE WITH THIS ADJUSTMENT IN THE HOMESTEAD EXTENSION, OR  WOULD'VE RESULTED IN A ONE   TIME HIT AND  IT WILL ADJUST   THE VALUE ANNUALLY WHICH WILL  RESULT IN US NOT BEING ABLE TO  FULLY REALIZE THE YEAR OVER   YEAR PROPERTY TAX GROWTH.    AGAIN WE ARE CURRENTLY   OPERATING WITHIN THE   ENVIRONMENT THAT WE DO   ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL CALLS TO  LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THAT IS   THE DIRECTION TO THE   DEPARTMENTS AS WE ARE  DEVELOPING A BUDGET. WE ARE   SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE POSITIONING YOU IN THE   GREATEST POSTURE TO HANDLE   THESE ISSUES GOING FORWARD.    >> QUESTION?  >> PLEASE.   >> THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM IS HERE ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE ARE  GOING TO BE IN A ROPE A DOPE   POSTURE AND JUST GETTING   ATTACKED BY THE FLORIDA   LEGISLATURE? OR WHAT IS THAT   FIGHT BACK PLAN AGAINST THESE   UNFUNDED MANDATES WITH THE FRS  COLA THE HOMESTEAD AND MORE?   WHAT ARE COUNTIES DOING TO  GALVANIZE THE STRENGTH NOT TO   TAKE THESE BLOWS? IN THESE  KINDS OF POSSIBILITIES? IT'S  GOING TO BE TOUGH. SMALLER   COUNTIES WILL BE TOUGHER.  WE   DON'T NEED TO KEEP GETTING HIT WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK ON THIS  APPROACH.    >> OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORE AND YOUR   UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP   THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR YOU. BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF  CREDIT TO THIS TEAM THAT HAS  BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE. YOU KNOW  WE DON'T TALK ABOUT  LEGISLATION ISSUES THAT   SHOULD'VE BEEN FILED WERE   TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE   ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.  THE   LEGISLATIVE TEAM THAT WE HAVE  HAS TAKEN EVERY APPROACH  POSSIBLE FROM GALVANIZING ARE  COUNTIES  THROUGHOUT THIS   LEGISLATIVE SESSION.  SEVERAL   OF THESE WERE ADVANCED  HAVE   BEEN REDOUBLED.  WE'VE TALKED  TO THOSE WHO HAVE FOLLOWED   THESE BILLS AND ARE NOT AT ALL  SHY SAYING THEY FULLY INTEND TO REFILE NEXT YEAR.  EVERY   EXPECTATION WILL BE HERE IN THE FUTURE AND THEY DON'T ONLY   FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF THE   COST SHIFT SIDE.  WE FIGHT   THESE ON EVERY FRONT AND IN   ESSENCE THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT IN THIS   LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP.  THERE   ARE THOSE INCREASED PROPERTY  VALUES.  THAT 6 1/2 IS A   PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE.  THE   ANTICIPATED PROPERTY TAX  INCREASES ARE HERE AND THEY   DON'T FULLY COVER THIS  EXPENDITURE.  THERE IS THE   RESIDUE OF THE COVID-19 MONEY   GOING AWAY IN THOSE FIRST TWO   BULLETS ARE HERE AND ARE  POTENTIALLY LOOKING PRETTY  STEEP  WITH A 6 1/2  NOT   GETTING CAUGHT BLINDSIDED.  ARE WE GOING DOWN? WE NEED TO KNOW?    >> SO NOW WE ARE JUST GOING TO  QUICKLY SHIFT TO SOME OF OUR   DELIBERATE EFFORTS TO COUNTY   EMPLOYEES TO CUT COSTS.  PRIOR  TO US COMING TO YOU WITH ANY   RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TAXES OR   FEE INCREASES  THERE ARE COST   SAVINGS AND AVOIDANCES WITHIN   THE BUDGET. THESE ARE RELATED   TO THOSE TARGETED PROGRAMS  AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE IDENTIFIED  NEARLY $12 MILLION IN SAVINGS.  THAT IS ABOUT 76,000 OVER THE   PAST 10 YEARS.  YOU CAN SEE I   WILL NOT BE GOING INTO MUCH   DETAIL BUT THIS IS ISOLATED   WITHIN THE ONGOING YEAR-ROUND  EFFORTS  OR THESE COST-SAVING   MEASURES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO   THE TABLE.  WE ARE STILL VERY  EARLY IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS.   PROPERTY TAXES ARE ESTIMATED TO INCREASE BY ABOUT 6 1/2%.  THE  YEAR BEFORE THAT WE ARE AT 9.3  SO WE ARE STARTING TO SHIFT TO  A NORMAL RATE.  YOUR HALF CENT  SALES TAX AND THE STATE SHARE   REVENUES ARE ANTICIPATED TO   INCREASE WHILE OTHERS ARE  EXPECTED TO REALIZE THE   DECREASE IS HERE. WE ARE   ANTICIPATING $15 MILLION. SO I  WILL SAY TO REITERATE IN THIS   ECONOMIC AND LEGISLATIVE   OUTLOOK THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY   FACING THERE ARE INCREASES THAT YOU SEE HERE THAT ARE   CONSTRAINED TO THE SMALLEST   LEVELS NECESSARY.  YOU CAN SEE  THIS AROUND THE TABLE THEY HAVE HEARD THIS AND  THIS CONSTRAINT IS INCREASED. THE MAJORITY  TAKES IT FROM THE OPERATING  SIDE  WITH MANDATORY SERVICES.  THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET OF COURSE IS HERE. AROUND 9 1/2%.  THE   BRIGADIER USE THOSE OFFICE ON   SALARIES UP TO HIM PROPER   MINIMUM. THEY CONTINUE TO  PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR   CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES  AS YOU   KNOW FLUCTUATES YEAR AFTER YEAR  AND OF COURSE THIS INCLUDED  THE PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE   PRIMARY SO WE SEE THIS GO DOWN.    >> IT'S REALLY ON THE   LEGISLATIVE REVENUE SIDE I'M   SORRY TO GO BACK BUT YOUR ROLE  ON THE DETAILS WAS HERE AND I   WASN'T GOING TO MISS THOSE. AS I UNDERSTAND THIS WE ALSO HAVE  A STATEWIDE BALLOT INITIATIVE   THAT WOULD ADD INFLATION   ADJUSTMENT AND A HOMESTEAD   EXEMPTION. SINCE THAT IS  STATEWIDE  IT WOULD ALLOW THAT  THE PASS IS FACT PLANNING A  CAMPAIGN OR POLICY DECISION ON  THE OPPOSING LEVELS?    >> THAT INFORMATION WILL BE   INCLUDED FOR YOU WITHIN THE   BUDGET WORKSHOP. I'M NOT SURE  IF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD HAS MET  OR MADE A DECISION ON THAT.   >> THAT IS EXCELLENT. ON THOSE  DETAILED EXPENSES AS YOU NOTED  BY FAR THE MOST OF THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES IS OFFSET BY AND  ALWAYS SIMILAR AMOUNT WITHIN   THE SHARE OF OPERATIONS.  AS   I'VE SAID BEFORE COMMISSIONER  PROCTOR HAS SAID BETTER THAN ME EVERY TIME  HOW ARE THESE  LEVELS.  ARE THESE SIMILAR WITH OTHER SHERIFF'S OFFICES OR ARE WE THE LEADER  AND HOW DO WE  COMPARE? IS IT TYPICAL OR   ATYPICAL?   >> FIRST OF ALL, YES. AND I   TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE AND  IT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE GIVEN  THE IMPACT OF THE SHERIFF'S   BUDGET ON OUR OVERALL BUDGET.   WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE  THE BUDGET RELATIONSHIP THAT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE  SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND I KNOW   THE BOARD APPRECIATES THAT. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ENGAGES  COMPLETELY WITHIN OUR BUDGET  PROCESS  I DID TALK TO COUNTY   ADMINISTRATORS REGULARLY AND   SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO   THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGET  OFFICER'S REQUEST THIS IS NOT  OUT OF LINE AT ALL PROPORTION   TO HER BUDGET TO SEE THIS  BREAKDOWN.  THERE IS A HANDS-ON WORKING RELATIONSHIP.  THERE IS THE MINIMUM STARTING SALARY AND AGAIN THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO   THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN TERMS OF ENGAGING WITH THAT  ON THIS   LEVEL. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU  HAVE TO ADD ON THAT?   >> NO. WE DO WORK CONSTANTLY   WITH THEM TO KEEP THEIR BUDGET  DOWN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO   WERE JUST CONTINUING THAT  RELATIONSHIP.  GENERALLY WHAT I FIND I SHARED THIS WITH THE   COMMISSIONERS WE TRY TO   CONSTRAIN THAT.  WE ANTICIPATE  A 6 1/2 VALUE  AND THAT IS NOT  THE CASE.  WITH THIS YEAR THEY  WERE A LITTLE HIGH ON THAT.  A  PARTICULARLY BIG YEAR BECAUSE   OF THE OPERATING IMPACTS  RELATED TO THE SALARY.   >> THANK YOU. I DO NOT NEED ANY MORE DETAILS. WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THE CHAIR AND THEIR  OFFICE WILL DO EVERYTHING THEY  CAN WITH OUR OFFICE TO KEEP   THOSE COSTS AS LOW AS NEEDED.   >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE. SO  IS IT IMPORTANT  TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER   LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN DOING  THIS BUDGET CAN YOU ADDRESS   WHAT YOU DID TO LOOK AT FELLOW  LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE IN LEON   COUNTY?   >> NOT ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL REQUESTED  ITEMS IN THE FORM OF BUDGET  DISCUSSION ITEMS WITH ANALYSIS  ON WHETHER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE METRO REASON OR GOING   BEYOND THAT RELATIVE  TO   SALARIES AND OTHER BENEFITS YOU WILL SEE IT REFLECTED IN THE   ANALYSIS. THEY ENGAGE IN MARKET ANALYSIS YEAR-ROUND AND WE DO   LEAD IN WITH AREAS WE HAVE   PARTICULAR ISSUES  BUT  CERTAINLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY OF TRYING TO KEEP PACE LOCALLY  WITH THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT  OFFICES IN TOWN.  I SEE  COMMISSIONER MATTIX. DID YOU   HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY.    COMMISSIONER PROCTOR?   >> A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC TO   THE QUESTION HE RAISED WHERE DO THOSE SHERIFF'S NUMBERS PLACE  HIM IN CONTRACT TO TPT? THAT IS TYPICALLY THE GOLD STANDARD FOR WHICH THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO  MATCH FOUR YEARS.   >> I THINK THEY'RE AVERAGING  AROUND 65,000 MINIMUM.   >> SO THE SHERIFF IS STILL  BELOW THE SISTER AGENCY HERE.   FOR MANY YEARS THERE HAS BEEN  AN EFFORT TO CLOSE THE GAP AND  TO RECEIVE  COMPETENT   APPLICANTS TO SERVE IN THAT  ROLE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND   THAT IS A REASONABLE NUMBER I  BELIEVE THAT FIREFIGHTERS   SHOULD LIKEWISE BE IN THAT SAME NUMBER. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE MS FALLS IN THIS PICTURE. BUT  OVERALL  THEY ARE READING ME  RENEW WE NEEDED AND THE OTHER   EXPENSE CATEGORY IS WHAT HIS   OTHER MEAN?   >> THOSE INCLUDE AND YOU CAN   ALSO GO TO PAGE 11 OF THE ITEM  FOR A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN THOSE  ARE OTHER MANDATORY INCREASES   SUCH AS MEDICAID RECLUSES FUEL  INCREASES AND THINGS OF THAT   NATURE.   >> OKAY MY LAST QUESTION ON THE REVENUE SIDE  THEY WERE SPOOKED OUT HERE WITH THE MONEY THAT WE TAX THEM.  WE DO JUST RECORD   WHAT WE ANTICIPATE FOR THE CITY TO COLLECT HERE.  WE THE STAR   FOOTNOTE THAT WE COLLECT THAT   MONEY IN THE COUNTERFEIT MODE   THIS IS WE NEVER TOUCH THAT  MONEY.  WERE GOING TO   TRANSITION NOW  WE WOULD LIKE   TO TALK BUT WITH COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR WAS TALKING ABOUT HERE.  WERE TALKING ABOUT THE   EMERGENCY HOMELESS SHELTERS THE INCREASE RATE FOR DENTAL MENTAL HEALTH. AND IN PARTNERSHIPS   WITH 211 TWO IN IMPROVE ACCESS  TO HUMAN SERVICES. REAL   COMMISSIONERS BASED ON YOUR   DIRECTION AT YOUR RETREAT THIS  WORKSHOP ITEM ALSO INCLUDES THE ANALYSIS OF YOUR CURRENT DEBT   OBLIGATIONS. WE USUALLY ONLY   ISSUE DEBT FOR LARGE CAPITAL   IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.  JUST TO  REITERATE THE DEBT SERVICE  LEVELS ARE CURRENTLY PRETTY LOW IN COMPARISON TO OTHER   ORGANIZATIONS. WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF DEBT AND WE DO   ANTICIPATE BEING DEBT FREE BY  2037.  IN YOUR AGENDA ITEMS   THERE ARE SOME SUMMARY TABLES  THAT DO BREAKDOWN EACH DEBT   SERVICE THAT WE HAVE, THE   PURPOSE OF THE DEBT AND THE   FINAL MATURITY DATE AS WELL AS  REMAINING PAYMENTS.  >> WHAT PAGE IS THAT?   >> PAGE 20. AS REFLECTED ON   YOUR SCREEN WE ARE ANTICIPATING A REDUCTION IN DEBT BEGINNING   IN FY 26. IN PREVIOUS YEARS  WE HAVE UTILIZE THESE THAT SAVINGS TO OFFSET TAX AND FEE   INCREASES. MOST RECENTLY YOU   WILL RECALL EMS AND FIRE   UTILIZING ADDITIONAL GENERAL   REVENUE TO DELAY THOSE  INCREASES.  THE CHART REFLECTS  THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE   ARE ANTICIPATING PICKING UP   EACH FISCAL YEAR WE WILL BRING  BACK RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE  SAVINGS AS WE DISCUSSED AND  TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY THE  FUNDING IS GOING AWAY AND WE   WILL ANTICIPATE USING THE   SAVINGS TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK  TO YOU DURING THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.  MANAGER?  ON DEBT  SERVICE I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE   BECAUSE OF CONSERVATIVISM IN   THE BUDGET THIS COUNTY HAS   INCREDIBLE DEBTS TO FUND RATIO  AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IN A   GENERAL TERM WHERE WE ARE IN   THAT CAPACITY SHOULD FUTURE   PROJECTS BE NEEDED?   >> OUR LAST COMMUNICATION  I   THINK WE WERE AT A+. THERE IS   AMPLE CAPACITY  IN LINE WITH   YOUR OBSERVATION WITH VERY LOW  DEBT AND AMPLE CAPACITY HERE  THAT HAS BENEFITED FROM BOARD   DIRECTION WITH A REFINANCING OF THE MARKET SCORE AND COULD HAVE PAID ALL OF OUR DEBT WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS THE   BOARD MADE STRATEGIC DECISIONS  TO REFINANCE DEBT AND DO THAT  SORT OF THING. THAT IS NOT TO   SAY THAT ALL DEBT IS BAD BUT   CERTAINLY WE HAVE MAINTAINED A  VERY LOW LEVEL OF DEBT AS IS  PROPORTION TO THE BUDGET. AND   TO UNDERSCORE WHAT WERE SHONDA  HAS SAID THE SAVINGS THAT YOU   SEE COMING ONLINE IN FISCAL   YEARS WILL BE CRITICALLY   IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD IS YOU   DO ENTER INTO BUDGET   DELIBERATIONS AND WILL   ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO DIRECT  THE SAVINGS AT THAT TIME.   >> IS THAT THE HIGHEST RATING   THAT WE CAN HAVE? OR IS THE   DEBT RATIO GOING DOWN PRETTY   HIGH?   >> OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS  THIS IS MY 29th BUDGET AND WE  HAVE CONSISTENTLY GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER IN TERMS OF BOND  RATINGS.    >> THANK YOU.   >> MADAM CHAIR? DO WE HAVE A   POLICY ON WHEN THE DEBT GOES  OFF OF THE BOOKS. WILL THE  SAVINGS GO TO THE RAINY DAY   FUND? OR DOES IT GO TO THE   REDUCTION OF MILLAGE? WHAT   POLICY DO WE HAVE IN PLACE WHEN THE DECK COMES OFF THE BOOKS?  >> WE DO NOT HAVE A POLICY. IN  FACT WE MAINTAIN THE ULTIMATE  FLEXIBILITY ON HOW TO UTILIZE  THOSE FUNDS. BUT WE DO BRING   THEM BACK WHEN YOU SEE WE ARE   PAYING OFF THE DEBT WE WOULD  INTRODUCE THAT BACK INTO THE   BUDGET PROCESS AND USE THE   BUDGET BALANCING STRATEGIES.   >> COMMISSIONERS I WOULD   SUGGEST THAT  WHAT YOU CONSIDER DEBT REDUCTION AS THE FIRST   POSSIBILITY TO REDUCE THIS   MILLAGE AND TO WHAT EXTENT CAN  IT BE PLOWED INTO THE   CONSTRUCTION OF A BUDGET THAT  IS PARAMOUNT RIGHT NOW.    SUFFERING MANY FISCAL  CHALLENGES WE DO NOT HAVE A   POLICY THAT IMMEDIATELY TELLS  STAFF WHAT TO DO WHEN WE NO   LONGER HAVE THESE ISSUES HERE.  IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT IS  A GOOD-LOOKING AMOUNT OF MONEY  FOR US TO FOCUS. BUT LET'S NOT FOCUS ON THE MILLAGE REDUCTION.   >> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR  AS THAT IS PRESENTED TO US DO WE   REDUCE THE DEBT DEPENDING ON  THE COMPETITION WITH THE BOARD? I BELIEVE THAT IS A DECISION   THAT COULD BE MADE AT A   PARTICULAR TIME DEPENDING UPON  THE AMOUNT  AND COMMUNITY AT  THE TIME?  >> I STRONGLY ADVISE YOU KEEP  ALL OF YOUR OPTIONS OPEN.   >> COMMISSIONERS YOU RECALL YOU RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THESE  PROJECTS AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.  IN THE COUNTY WE HAVE  BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL AND   EFFECTIVE AT LEVERAGING STATE   AND FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR THESE  PROGRAMS. EVEN WITH OVER $63   MILLION IN GRANT FUNDING THERE  IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT SHORTAGE TO COMPLETE SOME OF THESE   REMAINING PROJECTS DUE TO THE   INCREASES IN CONSTRUCTION   COSTS. AS SUCH THE OFFICE ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS HAVE BEEN   AGGRESSIVELY SEEKING ADDITIONAL GRANT DOLLARS. YOU DID GIVE US  AUTHORIZATION AT YOUR FEBRUARY  MEETING TO APPLY FOR A $10   MILLION STATE GRANT. THAT   REQUIRES A $10 MILLION LOCAL   MATCH. COMMISSIONERS?   >> YOU SAID THAT SO CASUALLY.  >> IT'S JUST $10 MILLION.   YOU'VE DEDICATED  THE FUNDS  FOR THE MASS KNOWLEDGE OF THESE PROJECTS. WE'VE USED ABOUT $8  MILLION TO DATE. AND WE DO   ANTICIPATE CONTINUING THAT   PRACTICE BASED ON BOARD   DIRECTION. TODAY,   COMMISSIONERS, UPON   NOTIFICATION OF THE GRANT AWARD  WE ARE ASKING THAT WE BE ABLE  TO ENGAGE IN THE FINANCIAL   SHORT-TERM ROLE WHERE WE WILL  LEVERAGE  THE DEBT SERVICE   PAYMENTS THAT WILL NOT HAVE AN  IMPACT IN GENERAL REVENUE   BECAUSE WE HAVE A DEDICATED   REVENUE SOURCE. YOU WILL SEE   THIS OPTION REFLECTED IN YOUR   RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE.    >> MADAM CHAIR MIA COMMENTS?   >> PLEASE.   >> OKAY  CAN WE GO TO THE ONE   WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SEWER?  OKAY I WANT TO COMPLEMENT OUR   STAFF FOR DOING A SIGNIFICANT   AMOUNT OF WORK IN THE PIPING    IN THE WOODINVILLE AREA.  WE   APPRECIATE AND RECOGNIZE THE  CALL HERE ON THIS PAST SATURDAY WHERE THEY CALLED TO SAY THAT  THE CHURCH IN OLD WOODINVILLE   HIGHWAY WHICH IS ON THE LIBRARY ROLE  IS HERE AND HE SAID THEY  HAD A SEWER AND YOU WOULD'VE  THOUGHT IT WAS CHRISTMAS  MORNING.  AND IT GOES ALL THE  WAY DOWN OAK RIDGE ROAD. THAT   IS A SIGNIFICANT ELEVATION  FOR THEM TO STEP INTO THE 21st   CENTURY SO I WANT TO SHOUT OUT  THE STAFF IN THIS LONG   ADMINISTRATION FROM THE DORMANT FOCUS ON WOODINVILLE AS THESE   STAFF HAVE CHAMPIONED SUPPORT   TO BRING OPTIMAL INFRASTRUCTURE  THAT SIGNALS PEOPLE THAT LIVE  IN THE 21st CENTURY. AND BEING  THE ULTIMATE ZONE BACK FOR   CIVILIZATION. BUT TO HAVE SEWER IS FUNDAMENTAL AND BASIS OF   BASIC NECESSITIES HERE AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL. ESPECIALLY FOR   THE PUSH ON THE STAFF HERE  I   DO BELIEVE MAYBE NOT HERE IN MY FULL TENURE BECAUSE I AM  DISAPPOINTED IN THIS BUT ONE   DAY WE WILL HAVE PIPES IN THE   GROUND THAT WHEN WE GET THE  DIRT FROM THE FEDERAL   GOVERNMENT CALLED U.S. PARKS   THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO  SOMETHING WITH AND WE WILL HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT DIRT AND  THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY   DESERVE IT. AND WE ARE FEDERAL  TAXPAYERS AND  THAT MONEY THAT  WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.  FOR DIRT THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE NEED FOR   AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND OTHER   NEEDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.  SO THE FUTURE, MARK MY WORDS, IS  GOING TO BE BRIGHTER FOR WHAT   WE HAVE DONE. THESE MAY NOT BE  VISIBLE PIPES BUT THEY ARE THE  CATALYTIC FORCE THAT MAKES FOR  ACTIVITY ON TOP OF THE GROUND   TO BE MORE VALUABLE AND   ENRICHING. SO, THANK YOU. I'M  NOT SENTIMENTAL OVER THE SEWER  BUT I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT PIPES THAT CAN PUT ACTIVITY ON TOP OF THE GROUND AND MAKE IT MORE   ENRICHING. SO THANK YOU AND I   AM 1% BEHIND YOU AND THE  CONTINUING WATCHED WITH THE   PIPES WITH A NEED TO BE.    >>> SO LASTLY AS I WRAP UP  COMMISSIONERS THE NEXT BUDGET  STEPS ARE HERE. WE DO A FEW   THINGS TO GET THROUGH BEFORE WE CAN OFFICIALLY ADOPT THE BUDGET IN YOUR SEPTEMBER PUBLIC   HEARINGS. OF COURSE BY MAY 1st  WE WILL HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL BUDGETS AND WE WILL BE  RATIFYING THE ACTIONS THAT ARE  TAKEN STAY AT THE MAY 14th   MEETING. ON JUNE 1st WE WILL   RECEIVE THIS LEVEL TO PRESENT  YOUR TENTATIVE BALANCE BUDGETS  AND ON JULY 1st WE WILL RECEIVE THE FINAL VALUES FROM THE   PROPERTY APPRAISALS OFFICE.  COMMISSIONERS YOUR BUDGET  CALENDAR HAS A WORKSHOP IF   NECESSARY ON JULY 9th AND THEN  OF COURSE WE WILL HAVE OUR TWO  REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETINGS. WITH THAT   COMMISSIONERS THE   RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON YOUR  SCREENS.  WITH THAT  COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO  TURN IT BACK OVER.   >> MADAM CHAIR WE WILL TURN IT  BACK A REVIEW TO FACILITATE THE VOTE ON ITEM 1 AND JUST NOTE   THAT LIKE THE COMMISSION   MEETING I WILL BE PREPARED TO   INTRODUCE THE BUDGET DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT FOLLOW.   >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR AND MISS BRADLEY, THANK YOU ALL FOR REPRESENTING  THE INFORMATION ON THE SUMMARY  ITEMS BEFORE US. AND ALL OF  YOUR HARD WORK.  COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE THE OPTIONS AND I WOULD LIKE TO THROUGH TO THE MOTION   FOR OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.  >> THINK MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD   MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS   BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING HERE. SO  I DO MOVE THE STAFF   RECOMMENDATION OPTIONS 12 AND   THREE.   >> COMMISSIONER?  I WANT TO  COMMEND ALL OF YOU OBVIOUSLY MY PERSPECTIVE IS LIMITED ON THE  BUDGET CONSTRUCTION BUT I THINK YOU CLEARLY DO AN INCREDIBLE   JOB AS A STAFF FROM THE TOP   THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS THESE   ARE BUDGETS IN VERY DYNAMIC  ENVIRONMENTS WITH INFLATION AND REVENUES AND ALL OF THIS  CHANGING.  AS ONLY MAN WHO  LOOKS AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS I  WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND YOU AND   LET YOU KNOW THAT I DO   UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING.  I SEE THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND THE DECISION-MAKING THAT IS   DONE AND I FEEL LIKE FOR MY  COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD   OBVIOUSLY WE ARE IN A DYNAMIC   ENVIRONMENT ACROSS THE STREET.  I FEEL LIKE YOU TO ANTICIPATE   THESE THINGS WILL COME DOWN IN  THE COMING YEARS THAT WILL  REQUIRE US TO PIVOT OUR BUDGET. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS PROBABLY    THE FOURTH BUDGET COUNSEL THAT  I'VE GONE THROUGH IN LEON   COUNTY AND IT IS A GREAT WORK  PRODUCT THAT REFLECTS OUR   VALUES AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING  TO ACHIEVE HERE. AND IT IS  RESPONSIBLE MORE THAN ANYTHING. SO THANK YOU.  >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX?  >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, AS THE ADMINISTRATORS WE RECEIVED  A REQUEST FOR FUNDING FROM THE  HOUSING AUTHORITY TO MATCH THE  CITY OF TALLAHASSEE'S PENDING  APPROVAL THAT WOULD BE A MASTER PLANNING MONEY USED FOR   SPRINGFIELD. AS YOU ALL KNOW   THIS HAS BEEN A PARTY FOR ME  FOR A LONG TIME. I WOULD PREFER SPRINGFIELD BEFORE ORANGE   AVENUE BUT NOW THAT SPRINGFIELD IS A POSSIBILITY ON THE MASTER  PLANNING I WOULD LIKE TO   INCLUDE THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET. AM I WITHIN MY ORDER TO ASK FOR THIS TO BE PART OF THE ORDER OR MUST I ESCORT LATER?    >> PERHAPS IF YOU DID WANT TO   SAVE IT UNTIL AFTER THIS I   THINK THE IMPACT WOULD BE IN   THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR 2024.    BUT CERTAINLY WE WOULD BE HERE  TO RECEIVE WHATEVER DIRECTION   THE BOARD WOULD HAVE AT THAT   TIME?  >> WHAT DO WE HAVE THE   CONTINGENCY ON RIGHT NOW?  >>  IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE  BOARD WE WOULD BRING AGENDA   ITEM OUT TO YOU AND LAY THOSE   OPTIONS DOWN. WE WOULD NOT   RECOMMEND GOING INTO   CONTINGENCY WITH THAT. WE MAY  BE IN A POSITION TO UTILIZE OR  AT LEAST PROVIDE THE OPTION TO  THE BOARD TO UTILIZE E.R. A   FUNDING. THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY  DEDICATED  TO PURSUE GRANT   FUNDING BUT WE CAN PROVIDE ALL  OF THAT AND MORE WITH THE  ANALYSIS THAT COULD COME BACK   TO YOU.   >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX LET ME  SAY THIS WE NEED TO ADDRESS   THIS SEPARATELY WITH THE MOTION AND REQUEST FOR THE ITEM TO   COME BACK FROM THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR. I HAVE PLAN TO  SEE IF WE CAN VOTE ON THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DURING THE ANALYSIS AND BRING IT BACK IN  THE NEXT MEETING.   >> MADAM CHAIR I WILL LET YOU   HANDLE THAT. THERE IS  DEFINITELY HARD WORK ON THIS   BUDGET SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR   MOTION WORK. OF COURSE THE  OTHER PART WE DID NOT DISCUSS  YET WE WOULD BE WILLING TO  LISTEN TO THE POOR DISCUSSION  OF OPTION FOR WHICH IS A 5%   ACROSS-THE-BOARD INCREASE. AND  ONE THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT THESE INCREASE  OUR BUDGET PERPETUALLY. AND  THIS IS SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT   WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK ON.  I  APPRECIATE DIMINISHMENT FOR  BRINGING THIS FORWARD BUT I   WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTERTAIN BOTH AND I THINK AS THEY BROUGHT   THIS UP IN THE FRONT END OF THE DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE   UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE DO  HAVE THAT 23 MILLION IT COMES   AS A RESULT OF NEXT YEAR'S   LEGISLATIVE SEASON AND WE WANT  TO CONSIDER THAT WITH ANY  DECISIONS WE MAKE TODAY.    >> I MAKE THE MOTION TO   CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT OF   ADDING OPTION FOUR.    >> THANK YOU.   >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER   MADDOX. I APPRECIATE THE  SENTIMENT.  AS WE ALL KNOW  WE'VE DONE 5% ACROSS-THE-BOARD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. I   THINK AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN   THE PAST THE 0 TO 5%  AVERAGE  IS THERE. WE WILL STICK WITH   THE STAFF  I THINK IT GIVES THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION THE   FLEXIBILITY TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE 5% AND SOME LESS BASED ON  PERFORMANCE.  OR THE QUALITY  THAT THEY PROVIDE. SO I THINK   THAT IN MY OPINION, I WOULD   RATHER THAT WE STICK WITH   FLEXIBLE 0 TO 5%. I BELIEVE IF  I'M NOT MISTAKEN DOING THE  FULL 5% WITHOUT ANOTHER 1.3   MILLION TO THE BUDGET?  I THINK IN THIS ENVIRONMENT OR WERE  LOOKING AT POTENTIAL HITS FROM  ACROSS THE STREET CONSIDERING   THAT ARE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS CONSUMED ALMOST ENTIRELY BY THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET.  WE HEAR  FROM THE STAFF ABOUT THE   TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN CONCRETE AND ASPHALT. WE HEAR THAT   AROUND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.  I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A 50 PAGE  ANALYSIS BUT A DECENT AND   WORKABLE NARRATIVE ON WHAT IS  FACING THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.    THAT WILL HELP US EXPLAIN TO  THE PUBLIC AT LARGE IS WHY WE   ARE SEEING THE INCREASES.  I   WOULD MANAGE PROGRAMMING TEAMS  OF 50 TO 60 PEOPLE. THESE WERE  BRIGHT, AMBITIOUS AND DEDICATED PEOPLE FOCUSED ON DOING THEIR   JOB. BUT THE BEST TOOL THAT I   HAD FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE   BEST AND HARDEST WORKING AND   SMARTEST EMPLOYEES STAGE WAS   BECAUSE OF THE MERIT-BASED  INCREASE.  I HAVE ALWAYS HAD   THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE GREAT   PEOPLE HERE IN LEON COUNTY AND  SOME PEOPLE THAT REALLY GO THE  EXTRA MILE TO MAKE SURE THEY   ARE SERVING THE PEOPLE THAT   LIVE IN THIS COUNTY WELL.  I  THINK ALL OF THAT REALLY  MATTERS.  MANY WOULD SAY THIS   IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL FOR THEM.  AND NUMBER TWO AS COMMISSIONER  WALCH ALLUDED TO WE HAVE   INCREDIBLE UNPREDICTABILITY  COMING.  WE ARE NOT TO LEAVE  EMPLOYEES BEHIND ONLY HAVE   MONEY ON THE TABLE. IN THE   YEARS IN WHICH THERE IS SURPLUS WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THOSE GOOD YEARS, OUR STAFF GIVES US  NUMBERS. THESE NUMBERS THEN   BALANCE THE BUDGET THAT HAVE   ALREADY BEEN FACTORED. WE ARE   NOT ASKING THEM TO GO BACK THEY HAVE ALREADY FACTORED 5% INTO   THIS CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. SO I ASK US TO  RESPECT THESE WORKERS  AS   SUPPORT THE FIREMEN WHO ARE   GETTING MORE MONEY.  THE BILLS  ARE COMING NOW AND THEY ARE  COMING FIERCELY AND FAST. I   OFFER A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR   OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND   FOUR. FOR BEING THE 5% WHICH IS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR. AND THAT  WE CAPTURE    >> MR. ADMINISTRATOR, THE   BUDGET CONTEMPLATES AN AVERAGE  OF 3%?  WE ANTICIPATE BEING   ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE EXTRA   BUDGET PROCESSES.  MR.  ADMINISTRATOR HOW MANY  POSITIONS HAVE WE BROUGHT BACK  WORKFORCE WISE? ARE WE THE SAME AS WE WERE WHEN WE CUT THEM?    MADAM CHAIR IF YOU DON'T MIND  THE LAST QUESTION OF THE LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEES WERE TRYING TO   WORK UP    >> WE WERE TRYING TO GET THEM  TO 15 CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE  STATE WAS TRYING TO GET TO BY  2026.    >> I WILL SUPPORT THE   SUBSTITUTE MOTION. BUT AS WE   MOVE FORWARD WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO GO ZERO TO FIVE THIS IS THE  MORE PRACTICE WE NEED TO GET   BACK TO YOU.   >> LET ME JUST SAY THIS AS   WELL, WE GAVE THE EMPLOYEES 5%  LAST YEAR. INFLATION WAS HIGH.  THIS YEAR INFLATION AT 3.5 IS   STILL PRETTY HIGH.  I DON'T  THAT WE WOULD BE IN AS GOOD A   POSITION NEXT YEAR TO GIVE   RAISES TO OUR EMPLOYEES AS WE   ARE THIS YEAR. WHICH IS ONE   REASON WHY I DO SUPPORT THE   SUBSTITUTE MOTION.  THE OTHER   THING THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER   REASONS BUT, I DO RESPECT   COMMISSIONER MINOR AND HIS   INPUT. PARTICULARLY ABOUT   AWARDING EMPLOYEES THAT DO WORK HARD. I DO KNOW THAT IN MANY   INSTANCES, WE HAVE EMPLOYEES   THAT DO WORK HARD THAT ARE LEFT OUT. IF RAISES ARE   DISCRETIONARY OR SUBJECTIVE.    WE CAN GET AROUND HER OWN  BIASES  AND INDIVIDUALS THAT WE FAVOR CELLS WITHIN THE   WORKPLACE. WE ARE HUMAN. I   THINK IF WE DO THIS ACROSS THE  BOARD THIS YEAR WITH INFLATION  WIRED IS  LOOKING AT WHAT THIS  BLEAK OUTLOOK MAYBE FOR NEXT  YEAR AT THIS LEGISLATION THAT   WE ANTICIPATE IS GOING TO BE   BROUGHT UP AGAIN, IT WILL  PROBABLY PASS AND I THINK WE   ARE SHOWING  EMPLOYEES THEIR   VALUE AND THAT WE CERTAINLY   VALUE THEM. AND I THINK IN THE  OVERALL BUDGET WE ARE FOCUSING  ON MANY AREAS OF NEED WITHIN   THE COMMUNITY. BUT I DO NOT   WANT US TO EXCLUDE OUR COUNTY  EMPLOYEES.  WE KNOW THE   COMPANION CITY HAS PROVIDED A   RAISE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES WE   KNOW THE STATE HAS AND WE WANT  TO CERTAINLY KEEP GOOD  EMPLOYEES WITHIN THIS COUNTY.   WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE  THE COUNTY AND GO TO THE STATES OR THE OTHER CITIES. SO I   BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT  TIME TO DO THIS BECAUSE NEXT   YEAR IF I AM HERE AND MAY NOT   SUPPORT IT  BASED ON THE   NEGATIVE IMPACTS THE COUNTY MAY HAVE ON LEGISLATION THAT IS   LIKELY TO PASS.  COMMISSIONER   WALCH?   >> THINK YOU MADAM CHAIR.  NANCE, CAN YOU CLARIFY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME? THE 1.3  MILLION WILL BE COMING OUT OF   THE FUND BALANCE FOR THIS YEAR?   >> THAT IS CORRECT.   >> AND A MOVING FORWARD IT   WOULD JUST BE PART OF THE   BUDGET?   >> THAT IS CORRECT.   >> MANAGER TO POINT WHATEVER   HAPPENS NEXT YEAR THIS IS AN   ANNUAL COMMITMENT WE ARE   MAKING. WE ARE COMMITTING NOW  TO THIS AMOUNT OF FUNDING  FOREVER IN PERPETUITY. IF NEXT  YEAR IS BAD WE'VE ARTIE   COMMITTED TO THIS FUNDING IN   PERPETUITY. WE ALREADY HAVE A   CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT  WE ACKNOWLEDGE WILL LIKELY   CREATE A $350,000 YEAR HOLE IN  OUR BUDGET.  WE ARE IN A   POSTURE IN OUR REAR GUARANTEE   TO $350,000 REDUCTION.  WE'VE  TOYED WITH THE IDEA OF MILLAGE  RATE ROLLBACKS. WHERE IN THIS   DOCUMENT IT TELLS US THAT A   10th OF A MILLAGE RATE   REDUCTION WOULD BE A $1.2  MILLION HOLE IN THE BUDGET. WE  HAVE GONE FROM CONTEMPLATING   THE MILLAGE RATE REDUCTION  TO  NOW CONTEMPLATING A $1.3   MILLION PERPETUAL ANNUAL   INCREASE TO THE SALARY  WHEN WE HAVE A CURRENTLY BUDGETED  AVERAGE RAISE AT 3% THAT HIS   PERFORMANCE AND MERIT-BASED. I  DO NOT BELIEVE I CAN SUPPORT  THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. I DO   NOT THINK IT IS FISCALLY   RESPONSIBLE GIVEN THE CONTEXT   OF THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE   CURRENTLY IN. WE HAVE GIVEN 10% PERPETUAL, FOREVER, OVER THE   LAST TWO YEARS WHEN INFLATION   WAS ADMITTEDLY HIGH. NOW WE   HAVE SEEN A 50% REDUCTION IN   INFLATION WHICH I WOULD SUGGEST IS AVERAGE OR NORMAL, AND NOW   WE HAVE A 3% AVERAGE RAISE   CONTEMPLATED WITHIN THE BUDGET. SEAR ONLY A HALF A PERCENTAGE   OFF OF THE INFLATION MARKERS.   SOME PEOPLE WILL GIVE 5% AND   SOME PEOPLE WILL GET 1%. SOME  PEOPLE GET 0%. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.  I CANNOT SUPPORT IT AS IT IS. I DO NOT FEEL IT IS   RESPONSIBLE GIVEN THE CONTEXT I HAVE DESCRIBED. I THINK THE   STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OPTIONS ONE, TWO AND THREE. AND AS WE   JUST MENTIONED, WE HAVE AN   INCREDIBLY COMPETENT STAFF OF  BUDGET BUILDERS HERE AND THEY   DO A VERY THOUGHTFUL AND   CONSIDERATE JOB OF TRYING TO  PUT US IN A POSTURE TO BE  SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE. SO I  DO URGE US TO STICK WITH THE   STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. PLEASE.  >> COMMISSIONER WALCH BRIEFLY.  BUT LET ME GO TO COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE FIRST.  >> THINK YOU MADAM CHAIR.  IT   IS HARD FOR ME TO CONSIDER   VOTING AGAINST MONEY FOR GREAT  STAFF. I LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE  SEEING  ACROSS STATE   LEGISLATURE AND THE CHALLENGING OUTLOOK THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR  BUDGET FOLKS IN THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR HIMSELF IN A   FUTURE WHERE WE WILL CONTINUE  TO GET CHALLENGES FOR UNFUNDED  MANDATES AND AT SOME POINT THEY MAY PASS. I THINK ABOUT THIS   $1.3 MILLION IT DOES REPRESENT  2%. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE OF 3%  SPENDING AN  EXTRA 1.3 MILLION OUT OF THE   FUND BALANCE. I WOULD LOVE TO   GIVE THAT LECTURE TO THE STAFF  AND IF IT WAS JUST UP TO ME I   WOULD PREFER THAT WE GIVE THE   EXTRA 2% OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE LOWEST. INSTEAD OF SPREADING IT TO THE 20% EMPLOYEES WHO ARE  PAID  WHAT THEY DESERVE BUT IF  WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAKING   CARE OF PEOPLE IN INFLATION, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GIVE EXTRA TO FOLKS WHO MAKE THE LEAST YET   WORK JUST AS HARD AS ANYONE   ELSE. THAT BEING SAID I ALSO  THINK ABOUT 1.3 MILLION THAT   SHOULD BE CHOOSE NOT TO ADD TO  THE NORMAL AVERAGE 3% RAISE IT  STAYS IN THE BANK IN THE NEXT   YEAR ANOTHER 1.3 MILLION GOES  INTO THE BANK BECAUSE WE'VE   NOT HAD IT RECURRING. AND THE   NEXT YEAR GOES INTO THE BANK.   AND I THINK  THAT IN A FUTURE   WHERE REVENUE GETS CUT   SIGNIFICANTLY OR THERE IS AN   ECONOMIC CHALLENGE AND OTHER  GOVERNMENTS MAY BE FACED WITH   CUTTING POSITIONS. ROUGH   NUMBERS SITTING HERE 1.3   MILLION COULD FUND AN AVERAGE   OF 20 EMPLOYEES.  POSITIONS   THAT WE KEEP EVERY YEAR WHEN  OTHER GOVERNMENTS ARE NOT  PLANNED FOR THIS MAY BE CUTTING POSITIONS. THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'M CONSIDERING FOR THIS VOTE.  COMMISSIONER MINOR AND   COMMISSIONER CABANA?    >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. OUR   COUNTY EMPLOYEES OF THE BEST. I HAVE SAID THIS ON FACEBOOK AND  WE WORK WITH THEM A LOT IN THE  DISTRICT OFFICE. I KNOW YOU DO  AS WELL. AFTER THE FLOODING WE  HAD A LEON COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS  CREW GO OUT TO THIS ROAD AND   HAD THESE SERVICE RESTORED FOR  THOSE TO TRAVEL ON THE ROAD.   THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN BY   ACCIDENT. OUR PEOPLE ARE   INCREDIBLY HARD-WORKING. AND I  THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE THIS   AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW INCREDIBLY AWESOME THE COUNTY FOLKS CAN   BE. AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE   THERE'S A STORM COMING AND WE  DO THINK THAT IT IS GOING TO B VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND   WAYS TO BALANCE A BUDGET NEXT  YEAR IF THESE LEGISLATIVE   POLICIES GO THROUGH. AS   COMMISSIONER WALCH SAID,  THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT MADE THAT IF WE CAN AFFORD IT NOW LET'S DO IT  BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD IT   NEXT YEAR. THIS IS A RECURRING  PERMANENT EXPENSE. IF WERE  DOING IT NOW ARE LOCKING   OURSELVES AND TO DO IT NEXT   YEAR. AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT THEN. AND THAT IS A   VERY IMPORTANT PART. LET'S SAY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR SITTING   HERE WE HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE   POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED COSTING US AROUND 23 MILLION.   WE WILL BE FACED WAS A VERY   TOUGH DECISIONS. WHAT KIND OF  SEVERE CUTS WE HAVE TO MAKE UP  THAT LOSS OR GAP? OR WHAT   MILLAGE INCREASE OREGANO BE  FORCED TO PROVIDE UPON OUR   CUSTOMERS OR CONSTITUENTS  BECAUSE OF WHAT THE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES REQUIRE US TO DO?    WHEN THAT DAY COMES ONE YEAR   FROM NOW THE CONSTITUENTS   THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO BE ASKED WHAT IS THE COUNTY  DONE TO LEAD UP TO THIS POINT   TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IS  FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AS THEY   CAN BE BECAUSE BEFORE YOU   INCREASE YOUR MILLAGE RATE I  WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE UP TO THIS POINT. BEFORE YOU   CUT SEVERELY WITH CAPITAL  PROJECTS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE UP  TO THIS POINT? TO ACT   RESPONSIBLY? COUNTY EMPLOYEES   ARE THE BEST AND I SEE IT EVERY DAY. MY CHIEF OF STAFF AND I   WORK A LOT AND CONSTANTLY THEY  ARE MAKING THE COUNTY   GOVERNMENT LOOK GREAT. BUT AT   THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO  BALANCE THAT WITH WHAT WE KNOW  IS THE POTENTIAL DIFFICULT   BUDGET YEAR COMING UP WITH   THESE LEGISLATIVE POLICIES.  I  KNOW THAT WE MAY HAVE A  TREMENDOUSLY DIFFICULT BUDGET   YEAR WITH SERIOUS CHOICES HERE. AND I THINK THAT STARTS RIGHT  NOW.    >> I LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF   ARE PREPARING THIS BUDGET.  I   KNOW WE NAVIGATE IT WEIRD TIMES  WITH SOME POLICY THAT CAN   AFFECT US ON THE BUDGET. CAN I  ADDRESS THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR?   >> PLEASE.   >> THIS IS JUST COMING THROUGH  ARE YOU COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER  COUNTIES? DO WE HAVE ANY   TROUBLE HIRING?   >> YES.   >> BUT WE ARE VERY COMPETITIVE. IT IS A NATIONWIDE AND A   STATEWIDE TREND THAT TENDS TO   BE IN SPECIFIC POSITIONS.    >> DO WE THINK THAT  WE'RE   LOOKING AT 2% RIGHT NOW? THERE  IS CURRENTLY 0 TO 5% IS THAT   CORRECT?  >> BY ADDING 2% IT COULD HELP  IN THIS HIRING ABILITY.    >> WE ARE CONSTANTLY EVALUATING ALL OF THIS.    >>  PRIOR TO ME BEING ELECTED I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER 5%  INCREASE.  WE DON'T KNOW WHAT  WILL HAPPEN WHAT'S GOING TO  HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. WE CAN  SPECULATE BUT AS A BUSINESS   OWNER I TYPICALLY DEFER TO MY  DEPARTMENT HEAD AND DEPARTMENT  MANAGERS ON WHAT THEY WOULD   LIKE TO SEE FOR THEIR   DEPARTMENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT  PAGE. IN THIS PARTICULAR   INCIDENTS I THINK I WILL DEFER  TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS RECOMMENDATION AND NOT   SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL 2% THAT  WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY. NOT   BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT   EMPLOYEES DESERVE IT. I THINK   WE HAVE THE BEST STAFF HERE IN  LEON COUNTY BUT I ALSO THINK   THERE ARE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS   WITH WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE  NEXT 18 MONTHS AND I THINK WE   ALSO HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE   TAXPAYERS TO KEEP THEIR BASE   CONSISTENT. IF THAT CHANGES   NEXT YEAR I WILL HAVE TO HAVE   ANOTHER CONVERSATION. OR IF   THERE IS A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL   BROUGHT TO US BY STAFF THAT   SHOWS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO  CARVE OUT AT 1.3 MILLION THEN   WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER   CONVERSATION. WHERE I AM NOW  I'M SUPPORTING OPTIONS ONE   THROUGH THREE.    >> I KNOW WE HAVE THAT PROPOSAL AND WE SUPPORT INCREASING THE   ENTRY LEVEL  AT 60,000 YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE THE INCREASE IS FROM WHERE THAT ENTRY-LEVEL   SHARES POSITIONS NOW?    >> THEY ARE AT A 50,000 MINIMUM RIGHT NOW.   >> THEY'RE MOVING THAT BASE TO 60.   >> THANK YOU.  WHAT IS ON THE   TABLE IS 5%.    >> HOW MUCH WILL THE STATE  AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY   COMMISSIONERS HERE?  OVER THE  LAST THREE YEARS COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS HAVE OVERSEEN   THESE INCREASES?  FOR THOSE   THAT ARE HERE WHAT ARE YOU   SEEING HERE?  ARE YOU GOING TO  FORGOES THIS RAISE THIS YEAR?     >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT   MEANS.   >> 0 TO 5 MEANS IS AN AVERAGE   OF THREE CONTEMPLATED SO WITH   THE BOARD WANTED TO SEE  HAS AN AVERAGE OF THREE CURRENTLY   CONTEMPLATED. SO  ACROSS-THE-BOARD IT WILL BE  HERE BASED ON THE OPTION THAT  IS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW.    THAT WOULD RANGE BASED ON THE  PERFORMANCE.  ONE OF THE FIRST  THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT   WAS A SIZABLE CHUNK THAT THE   SHERIFF REQUIRED.  I THINK WE   ARE HYPOCRITICAL TO FORGO  APPROVING THE BUDGET THAT IS   ARTIE CONTEMPLATED WHAT WE   CANNOT AFFORD. AND TO NOT CARRY THE MAXIMUM THE INSURANCES ARE  INCREASING WITH ALL OF THESE   THINGS. IT IS NOT FAIR WHEN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION WAS HERE  I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED THEY   GET 5% ACROSS THE BOARD. AND I  WOULD NOT BALANCE THE BUDGETS   OFF THE BACKS OF THE EMPLOYEES  THEY GIVE TOO MUCH FOR THAT.    ALL THE OTHER MIRACULOUS THINGS THAT OCCUR HERE THEY DO.    CONSIDER WHO WE ARE WHEN WE ARE NOT APPEAR. I AM A  PATENTLY   PAID TEACHER WITH AMU. I WORK   FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I   DON'T KNOW BUT YOU WOULD  ACCEPT A RAISE IF YOU GOT ONE   THIS YEAR AND YOU'D GET MAD IF YOU DON'T GET ONE. I DON'T   KNOW WHAT THE REST OF YOU DO.   BUT IN MY JOB, MY REAL JOB, NOT ONE THAT I GET PAID FOR TO COME APPEAR ONCE A MONTH  WHICH   STAFF IS RECOMMENDED AS A ONE,  TWO, THREE OR FOUR AND GET THIS PAYCHECK.  DO YOU NEED A RAISE  AS HARD AS YOU WORK? WE DON'T  HAVE A CONSCIOUSNESS WITH   EMPATHY AND RESPECT TO THE   PEOPLE THAT ARE SACRIFICING.   $1.3 MILLION WERE TALKING ABOUT $23 MILLION.  THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS YEAR ON THE   DIFFERENCE I AGREED THAT EVERY  LITTLE BIT HELPS  BUT THAT'S  NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS COUNTY  THINK IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO MOVE  THE A+ RATING IT'S SMALL. SO   THE BUOYANCY FACTOR IS THE   FLOAT ABILITY.  IT'S NOT TO BE IMPACTED AT ALL OVER THE 1.3   MILLION. WHAT WE CONVEY AS   MORALE BOOSTER SHOWS EVERY  LITTLE BIT INCREMENTALLY TO  SUSTAIN AND PAY FOR CHILDREN    TO MEET THESE MYRIAD OF   CONCERNS AND MANDATES THAT WE   PAY WITH A GREAT ENDORSEMENT OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND ALL THAT THEY FACE AS HUMAN BEINGS IN THE   REAL WORLD. AND AS YOUR   CONSIDERATION AS MERE MORTALS   THEY WANT THEIRS TOO.    >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I  THINK WE'VE ALL NOW HAVE AN   OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR OPINION ON THIS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE   SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON ITEM ONCE  I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION. ALL  THOSE IN FAVOR? WHICH IS   OPTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND   FOUR LET IT BE KNOWN?  LET IT  BE KNOWN IN NAME? THE KNEES   HAVE IT. THE MOTION FAILS. NOW  WE WILL GO TO THE SUBSTITUTE   MOTION WHICH IS OPTIONS ONE,   TWO AND THREE. THAT IS THE   ORIGINAL MOTION OPTIONS 12 AND  THREE. VERY BRIEFLY  COMMISSIONER MADDOX?   >> FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING YOU SAID IN 22 INFLATION WAS WHAT?  9.1?  I THINK 23 IS DONE AROUND FIVE. THEY CURRENTLY WE ARE AT  3.5.  THAT IS THE PROPERTY TAX  VALUE INCREASES.  >> CEMENTED HER BRIEFLY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE 5% BEFORE I GET THE POINT THAT WE WANT TO  TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT WE ARE   LOOKING AT. THIS IS WHAT THE   EMPLOYEES HAVE DEALT WITH OVER  THE PAST THREE YEARS. LOOKING   AT 17% INCREASE IN INFLATION  AND WE'VE GIVEN 15% SO WERE   STILL A LITTLE BEHIND WHAT   INFLATION IS. DOES THAT SOUND   ABOUT RIGHT?  WE'RE STILL NOT  GOING TO BE COMPLETELY CAUGHT  UP.  WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT  WHAT KIND OF MOREL WE HAVE AND  WE VALUE THEM. THESE ARE THE   FOLKS THAT MAKE US LOOK GOOD SO THAT WE HAVE GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.  I   UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE NOT  WILLING TO ENTERTAIN FIVE   ACROSS-THE-BOARD. WE HAVE 3   1/2% THAT IS THE INFLATION THIS YEAR. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 3%  AT THE BUDGET.    >> I WANT THE BOARD TO   UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING  WITH JUST 3% AND SEE IF   THERE'S ANY CONSIDERATION OF   MAKING IT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING  DIFFERENT.  IF WE GO DOWN FROM  FROM 9 TO 6 IT IS SIGNIFICANT   BUT IF WE TOUCH SEVEN THAT   MONEY THAT WE ARE QUIBBLING   ABOUT AND NERVOUS OVER I WOULD  LIKE TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION BACK IF THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL  IS NUMBERED.  >> IS IT POSSIBLE THE EXPOSURE  WORKSHOP IS TRUE?    >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. AND  THE ANSWER IS YES. ABSOLUTELY.   IT IS APPLIED OF HER VERY   BROAD BASE.  WE COULD BE IN A  POSITION OF REALIZING $1   MILLION. THOSE NUMBERS WILL   CHANGE IN A BUNCH.  IF YOU SO   CHOSE AGAIN BUT I KNOW THAT  THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THERE ARE POLICY AND BUDGET  DECISIONS BEEN DISCUSSED AS   WELL. YOU COULD COME BACK WITH  THE REFINED VALUE AND IT COULD  BE SUCH  WITH THIS MUCH MORE   MONEY AVAILABLE.    >> THIS IS  THOSE THINGS THAT   WE ARE PONDERING HERE AND WASTE OF TIME TO GO WITH   BELT-TIGHTENING AND SO FORTH.   IF THOSE NUMBERS COME BACK  POSITIVE MASKING A   RECONSIDERATION IN THE EVENTS   THAT YOU KEEP OPTION FOR AS A  REAL POSSIBILITY AND NOT JUST A PHANTOM OPTION.  IF THAT  APPRAISAL HIT 7% INCREASE?    >> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BOARD WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE MOTION IF YOU WISH TO SEE THIS ONE    BROUGHT BACK WITH THOSE REFINED NUMBERS.  >> LET US VOTE ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DID YOU WANT TO  SPEAK ON THAT MOTION?  YOU CAN  SEE COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S   RECOMMENDATION? OKAY THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR  IS OPTIONS 12 AND THREE FOR ACCEPTANCE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?  NO IT IS OPTIONS 12  AND THREE. WE WILL DEAL WITH   OPTION NUMBER FOUR IN A   SEPARATE MOTION. OKAY OUR MINDS ARE CLEAR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?  ANY OPPOSITION? NONE. OKAY LS   COMMISSIONER PROCTOR?  >> I MOTION OPTION FOR COME   BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING  WITH THE ATTENDED FACTORS BASED ON THE APPRAISAL'S OFFICE ON   ANY RETIREMENT CONSIDERATION OR REVENUE STREAMS WHICH MIGHT   LEND THEMSELVES TO  CONSIDERATION FOR $1.3 MILLION  AND A 5% RAISE TO THE EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD?   >> IS THERE SECOND? THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER FRED DID YOU WANT  TO SPEAK ON THIS?   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. WHAT  I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT NOW   IS THAT I WOULD BE WILLING WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO HAVE A   DISCUSSION IN THE JUNE   WORKSHOP. WE DO WANT TO HAVE 5% SO I WILL STAND FIRM ON WHAT I  SAID EARLIER. IF WE CAN DEFINE  IT FROM OTHER CATEGORIES WE  STILL KEEP THAT BASELINE AND I  WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING THAT   CONVERSATION AS WELL.   >> AND I DO THINK THAT IS PART  OF THE ANALYSIS THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR WILL BRING BACK   TO THE BOARD AT THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING. BRIEFLY COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE?   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I  WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A THOUGHT   OR IDEA HERE. WE WANT TO VALUE  OUR EMPLOYEES AND IF WE ARE  USING THE EXTRA MONEY IDEALLY I WOULD LIKE IT TO GO TO THOSE   EMPLOYEES IN THE LOWER RANGE OF THE SALARY. PART OF THE CONCERT IS A OCCURRED COUPLE. I SEE THE FRIENDLY MOTION  WE ASK STAFF  TO BRING BACK THE IMPACT OF   GIVING EVERY EMPLOYEE WHO MAKES LESS THAN $80,000 A $1000   ONE-TIME BONUS IN ADDITION TO  THE NORMAL POLICY. IT IS   NONRECURRING AND I BELIEVE IT  WILL COME OUT  AND WE WILL LET  THEM DO THE ANALYSIS WITH A  SIMILAR COST GOING UP TO 32%.  THE REALITY IS THAT EVERYONE   DOES THE STANDARD POLICY OF THE AVERAGE OF THREE TO FIVE WITH   THE ADDITIONAL DIP INTO THE   FUND WITH A ONE-TIME $1000   BONUS TO EVERYONE UNDER   $80,000. AS FOR THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT WILL COST WITH THE   NEXT WORKSHOP.  >> DO YOU ACCEPT THIS FRIENDLY  MOTION?  >> HE ASKED FOR HAD NOT?   >> WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT AS A  FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO YOUR   MOTION?   >> NO.  I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A MORALE DIFFERENTIAL AMONG   STAFFERS THEY WOULD BE PAINFUL. OR JUST HER AND CREATE   BIFURCATIONS IN A CASTE SYSTEM  SITUATION BASED ON HOW MUCH YOU MAKE?  OKAY PLEASE   COMMISSIONER?  >>  I HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT I LEAD MYSELF. YOU CANNOT  SPECIFY A CLASS OF EMPLOYEE  OR GIVE THEM A BENEFIT THAT THE   REST THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT   RECEIVING. MY HEARING THAT   WRONG? I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT   YOU CAN JUST GIVE THIS TO   80,000 BELOW.   >> LET'S US THE COUNTY  ATTORNEY IF SHE HAS ANY OPINION ON THIS? THERE MAY BE AN EQUAL  PROTECTION ISSUE?   >> I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH   THIS THERE COULD BE CONCERNS   PARTICULARLY IF THEIR EMPLOYEES WITHIN THAT SAME JOB   CLASSIFICATION WHO WOULD BE ON  DIFFERENT SIDES OF THIS LEVEL.    >> I AM ALMOST CERTAIN THAT  THAT IS THE CASE. SO FOR THAT   REASON I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.   >> VERY QUICKLY HERE.  COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE I FEEL  WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO GO WITH THAT BUT AS A SCHOOLTEACHER,  WHEN WE GET A BONUS  WE RESENT  THAT. BECAUSE IT'S A ONE-TIME  THING. IT'S LIKE OKAY YOU HELP ME THIS ONE TIME BUT IT   DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING  DOWN THE ROAD. I GET WHERE YOU  ARE TRYING TO GO AND MAYBE IF   WE COULD DO THIS INSTEAD OF   PUTTING ON COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR'S MOTION WE COULD   PERHAPS ASK AND I GET THAT  THESE ARE LEGAL PROBLEMS. I GET YOUR SENTIMENT INFLATION IS   HITTING THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE   $15 AN HOUR MORE THAN ANYONE   ELSE. IS THERE WAY WE CAN MAKE  THEM GET $18 AN HOUR WITH THE  EXTRA 1.3 MILLION THAT WERE  TRYING TO FIND SOMEWHERE?  THAT WOULD HAVE MORE OF A REAL AND  MEANINGFUL IMPACT UPON  IMPROVING THE LIVES OF  EMPLOYEES THAN ACROSS-THE-BOARD 5% PAY RAISE THAT THOSE ARE   MAKING OVER 80,000. THAT'S   WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT.  MAYBE WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT  AND MAYBE THERE'S NOT BUT YOU  COULD LET US KNOW THIS IS WHAT  MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE.   >> THANK YOU. WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE SENTIMENT FOR THE LOWEST   EMPLOYEES. BUT, I'M GOING TO   GO ON AND CALL THE SUBSTITUTE   MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? IT  IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION OKAY.   ALL THOSE I'M SORRY LET ME ASK TO VOTE AGAIN. LET ME KNOW BY   SAYING I? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? IT FAILS. SO WE ARE BACK TO   COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S MOTION  FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK THE   AGENDA ITEM AT THE NEXT BUDGET  MEETING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?   ANY OPPOSITION? THANK YOU   COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS AGENDA   ITEM NUMBER TWO.   >> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WE  HAVE THE APPROPRIATE STAFF   SITTING AROUND THE TABLE IN   CASE THE BOARD HAS ANY   QUESTIONS ON IT BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THESE ARE AGAIN ISSUES  THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO BE   BROUGHT TO DURING THIS   WORKSHOP. WHILE THEY MAY NOT BE THE BIGGEST TO GET HER THE MOST EXCITING ITEMS THEY DO REMIND   ME OF  QUOTES THAT I'VE HAD   OVER SEVERAL YEARS AND DURING   THE BUDGET THAT NO ONE EVER HAS A RIBBON-CUTTING FOR THE PROPER MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD. IN   THESE ITEMS FIT INTO THAT   CATEGORY. AND THAT THEY MAY NOT BE  BIG-TICKET ITEMS OR GET  MUCH ATTENTION BUT IT IS   CERTAINLY AN INDICATION OF THE  LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE PLACED  IN THEM AND CERTAINLY THE LEVEL THAT THE BOARD ENGAGES IN  THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET. AND   AGAIN THE ISSUES THAT ARE   PRESENTED HERE HAVE FALLEN INTO SEVERAL CATEGORIES. AS SORT OF  THE INTRODUCTION WE DO HAVE AN  ITEM ON LEVERAGING RESOURCES    WITH THEIR PARTNERS SO THEY CAN PROVIDE HEALTHCARE SERVICES TO  PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST IN NEED AND AVOID HEALTHCARE OF LAST RESORT WHICH IS ALSO EASILY THE MOST   COSTLY TO THEM AND CERTAINLY  THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS HERE ON EMPLOYEE BENEFITS WHICH WE WILL HIT VERY QUICKLY  AND WE HAVE ONE ON VFD AND  IMPROVING THE FIRE READINESS IN THE FAR REACHES OF THE COUNTY   AND A LOT MORE. COMMISSIONERS I WILL BE STARTING OFF WITH ADAM  NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A BUDGET   DISCUSSION ITEM WHICH CONSIDERS INCREASING THE CARENET    PROVIDER REIMBURSEMENT RATE FOR DENTAL AND MENTAL SERVICES  PROVIDED BY HEALTHCARE   PROVIDERS TO LOW INCOME   RESIDENTS. WE ARE RECOMMENDING  DOING THIS BUT WE HAVE FALLEN   BELOW THE MEDICAID RATE AND   REIMBURSEMENTS OVER THE LAST   TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AND   THIS WILL PUT US IN LINE WITH   THAT AND IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY   FISCAL IMPACT. WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING OPTIONS ONE AND   TWO.  >>  MOVING ITEMS ONE AND TWO.  IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I KNOW LAST YEAR WE DID INCREASE THE PAYMENTS FOR   PRIMARY CARE TO LOW INCOME   INDIVIDUALS. SO THIS IS   SPECIFICALLY WITH DENTAL AND   MENTAL HEALTH. ALL THOSE IN   FAVOR? ANY OPPOSITION?  OKAY WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK AT 11:00.    >> WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO  THE GREEN FLEET CONVERSION  CHAMPIONS.  ANY IDEA WHEN WE   WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS US TO CONVERT OUR   HEAVY-DUTY EQUIPMENT LIKE   BACKHOES AND DUMP TRUCKS?   BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE PRETTY   COOL.   >> THIS AGENDA ITEM AS THEY   HAVE IN FOCUS ON LIGHT DUTY   WE'RE CONSTANTLY WATCHING   THESE MARKETS.  WE WANT TO BE A LEADER  WITH THE ABILITY TO  MAINTAIN AND KEEP THESE ON THE  ROADS. EVEN IN LIGHT DUTY FLEET THE CHEVY BOLT IS ONE WE HAVE   HEAVILY INVESTED IN IT IS NO   LONGER GOING TO BE PRODUCED.   THEY'RE RECALCULATING AND THEY EXPECT IT TO HAVE MEDIUM DUTY  AS WE FEEL CONFIDENT WITHIN   THESE DUTIES.   >> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE ALL   YOU DO WITH THIS DYNAMIC   ENVIRONMENT AND THE FACT THAT  LEON COUNTY STAYS IF NOT ON THE LEADING EDGE THE CUTTING EDGE.     >> COMMISSIONER MINOR?   >> SAME THING I WANTED TO THANK MAGGIE AND THE TEAM FOR   EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING TO   ACCELERATE THIS. WHEN I HAVE MY BRIEFING WITH THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR  WE TALKED ABOUT  THE AVAILABILITY OF VEHICLE   INVENTORY AND COST REDUCTIONS.  TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUSHING AS FAST AS WE CAN. FOR  ANYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING HIS  PROCEEDINGS, JUST KNOW THAT OUR STAFF IS DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.   WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL  OF YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU   MADAM CHAIR.   >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER AND   STAFF. I APPRECIATE THE FACT   THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THE   EXPENDITURES THAT OF ARTIE BEEN MADE AND LOOKING AT THE USEFUL  LIFE OF THOSE VEHICLES.  I   THINK IT IS REMARKABLE THAT WE  ARE USING WHAT WE SPENT FUNDS   ON HERE AND AS TIME IS MOVING  ON WHEN IT NEEDS REPLACEMENT WE ARE GOING TO EV SO THANK YOU   VERY MUCH.    >> WHAT IS THE AVERAGE MILES   THAT WE ARE GETTING OFF OF OUR  FLEET? AND  DOES IT VERY WITH  TRACTORS TRUCKS AND CARS?    >> AS OUTLINED IN THE GREEN  FLEET POLICY WE HAVE RELEASED   REPLACEMENT ELIGIBILITY   STRUCTURE. MILEAGE IS ONE OF   THOSE FACTORS BUT IT'S NOT  FORMULAIC.  WHEN THE REPAIR  COST HAS EQUATED TO TWO THIRDS  THAT IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT   TRIGGER. WE HAVE SOME VEHICLES  THAT ARE FROM 2005 AND 2006   THAT WE MAY BE REPLACING A  HIGHER MILEAGE VEHICLE THAT THE 2010 OR 11 AS WELL. SO IT IS   NOT A STRAIGHTFORWARD FORMULA  BUT WE DO TAKE EVERYTHING INTO  CONSIDERATION.   >> DO WE TRADE THEM OR THEY   GIVEN TO GOODWILL OR SOMETHING? >>  I REPRESENT THE OFFICE OF  RESOURCES HERE SOME SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FLEET MANAGEMENT  RIGHT NOW WE PUT ALL OF OUR  HEAVY EQUIPMENT ARE LIGHT-DUTY  EQUIPMENT AND MORE OUT TO  AUCTIONS THAT'S DONE IN A VERY PUBLIC TRANSPARENT PROCESS. IN  ADDITION TO THE VEHICLES AND   EQUIPMENT THAT ARE LEAST THAT  WE HAVE A TRADE-IN PROCESS.    >> I SAW SOME INFORMATION  RECENTLY THAT I CANNOT QUITE   REMEMBER BUT DO WE POOL  PURCHASE? LIKE WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE SCHOOL BOARD?    >> WE ARE AS WITH MANY OF OUR  SERVICES AND ITEMS WE PURCHASE  WITHIN THE COUNTY WE HAVE TERM  CONTRACTS THROUGH THE STATE AND MANY OF OUR VEHICLES ARE  PURCHASED FROM THAT STATEWIDE   CONTRACT.   >> VERY GOOD. WE ARE TRIMMING   AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE  MUCH.    >> ALL THOSE TO ACCEPT OPTION   ONE WHAT IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING  I? HEARING NO OPPOSITION THANK  YOU COMMISSIONERS. AGENDA ITEM   NUMBER FOUR.   >> THIS IS AN ITEM   COMMISSIONERS THE NIKKI PATENT  HAS BEEN ANXIOUSLY WAITING. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON  THIS ITEM. HERS HAS NOT BEEN   APPROVED NOT KIDDING. THIS IS   AN ITEM THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO   BE INCLUDED TODAY FROM YOUR   JANUARY 23rd MEETING.  YOU   DIRECT TO THE COMPARISON THE  RECENT CHANGES WITH THE STATE  AND OTHER COMPARABLE   GOVERNMENTS. AS I MENTIONED WE  WERE EARLY ADOPTERS CAME OUT   WITH THAT PATERNAL LEAVE POLICY AND IT DID APPLY TO NEW PARENTS OF MEN WOMEN AND THOSE ADOPTING AND IT WAS A GRADUAL LEVEL THAT WAS PAID FOR THREE AND 475 FIVE AND SIX WERE 50% OF PAY ALL   BASED ON THE CURRENT ANALYSIS  BEFORE YOU  AND THE CURRENT   BEST INDUSTRY STANDARDS WE ARE  RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO PROVIDE EMPLOYEES WITH SIX WEEKS FULL  PAY  FOR PATERNITY LEAVE. WITH  THAT WE ARE HAPPY FOR ANY   QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE?  >> COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE   >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE OPTION  ONE.   >> ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION   LEVELS?   >> YES. THANK YOU I WOULD LIKE  TO THANK  MOST ESPECIALLY THE   COUNCIL AND THE STATUS OF   WOMEN'S AND GIRLS COMMISSIONER KATIE WILLIAMS AND EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR STEPHANIE SHOEMAKER   FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY   ATTENTION. THIS IS AMAZING   BECAUSE NOW PARENTS WILL   RECEIVE THEIR FULL SALARY WHICH IS DIFFERENT AND AS WE   APPECIATE COUNTY STAFF WORKING SO QUICKLY TO GET THIS IN AND   ON THE BUDGET.  I KNOW WE   ALWAYS WANT TO BE THE LEADER OF THE PACK ON THIS AND AS BEST   PRACTICES ARE CHANGING I KNOW   WE WILL NOW STAY ON TOP OF IT.  THANK YOU. THING   >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE.   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I HAD  A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS LAST  FALL.  I'M VERY EXCITED AND   HAPPY TO HAVE THIS IN THE  BUDGET WORKSHOP. SOMEONE WHO   HAS FOUR SISTERS AND TWO THAT   ARE TEACHERS I FIND THIS IS   AMAZING TO COME BEFORE US.  I  LIKE TO POTENTIALLY OFFER   SLIGHT CHANGE. IN THE STATE OF  FLORIDA IT IS ILLEGAL TO REMOVE A PUPPY OR KITTEN FROM ITS  MOTHER FOR EIGHT WEEKS OF AGE.   DO I THINK THIS IS A BIG WIN?  ABSOLUTELY. BUT I WOULD LOVE  FOR IT TO GO FROM SIX WEEKS TO  EIGHT WEEKS HERE IN LEON  COUNTY. I BELIEVE IT IS   SOMETHING VERY DOABLE IT IS A   SMALL CHANGE BUT IT WILL GO A   TREMENDOUS WAY NOT ONLY FOR   WOMEN BUT FOR FATHERS AND   MOTHERS AS WELL. THANK YOU.    >> I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE   FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CHANGE   FROM EIGHT FROM SIX WEEK TO   EIGHT WEEKS.   >> I WILL SECOND THAT.   >> I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE ANY  BUDGETARY IMPACT WITH THAT   MOTION.  >> THEN I WILL DEFINITELY  SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT.   >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. MADAM CHAIR THIS IS UNRELATED BUT THE LEVEL OF ADVOCACY ON THIS TABLE HAS GONE TO ANOTHER LEVEL. I  DON'T THINK MY YEARS OF BEING  HERE I'VE EVER HEARD US   REFERENCE ANIMAL CARE.  I WAS  KIND OF JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY  NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. SO I   WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION ON THE  CHAIR.   >> COMMISSIONER WALT?   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I   WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I AM   DISAPPOINTED THAT THE STAFF  WASN'T LEAD ON THIS BUT I  WOULD LIKE TO SAY WAS THE MOST  STRESSFUL TIMES IN MY LIFE IS   MY FIRST CHILD WAS BORN AND WE  DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE TO   MANAGE IT. FROM A WORK  STANDPOINT. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T  HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS. SO I  THINK TO THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATORS CREDIT WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER HOW WE ARE  RYING TO BE ON THE CUTT  EDGE AND DOING THINGS TO   RECRUIT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES.   BUT THINGS LIKE THIS IS A BIG   DEAL ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE   ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO HAVE A  CHILD.  IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN   THIS APPLIES TO MALE AND FEMALE EMPLOYEES? AND THERE ARE 12   JURISDICTIONS WITHIN THE STATE  TO DO THIS. AND ONLY THREE OF  THEM DO IT LIKE THIS. WITH THAT FULL SIX WEEKS?   >> THERE WAS MORE OF A TREND  ONGOING WITH A FULL SIX WEEKS.  >> AND I WERE GOING TO EIGHT   WEEKS. SO I SUGGEST WE WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE DOING THAT?   >> ST. PETERSBURG DOES IT AS   WELL.   >> AND THAT IS A FULL ON CITY   AND WE ARE COUNTY. THERE ARE A  LOT OF CITIES AND ONLY   SOMETHING COUNTIES. SO, I KNOW  COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE THIS IS  SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART. AND I JUST WANT TO   COMMEND STAFF ARE FINDING A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK. THIS IS SUCH A BIG DEAL. FOR REAL PEOPLE   THIS WILL IMPACT QUALITY OF   LIFE AND  TO THE COMMISSIONERS. CATS AND DOGS AND MOMS AND DADS WE ALL ARE BONDING REALLY TIGHT IN THAT FIRST 6 TO 8 WEEKS.  SCIENTIFICALLY THAT FIRST MONTH OR TWO IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT   IN DEVELOPMENT OF A CHILD.  BONDING WITH THEIR PARENTS IT  CAN HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT WERE   TALKING ABOUT SUPER EARLY   CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. MY OLDEST  CHILD STAYED HOME WITH MY WIFE  FOR 12 WEEKS WITH NO PAY AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. WHEN SHE  WAS IN KINDERGARTEN AND SHE WAS READING 185 WORDS PER MINUTE.   AND IT WAS LIKE NINE MONTHS AT  HOME WITH MY WIFE. AND THIS IS  WHAT SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET   WITH NO PAY HERE IT WAS VERY   TOUGH FINANCIALLY. AND IT  REALLY PAID OFF. SOME SO GLAD   TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT   CELEBRATES THE COMMUNITY.   >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR?   >> I HONESTLY DIDN'T HAVE A   LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS. I THINK IT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH ME BEING A MEMBER OF THE AARP. TO MY   YOUNGER COLLEAGUE HERE HE GOT  INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF ALL OF THIS. I HOPE TO NEVER HAVE TO  HAVE THIS APPLY TO ME. BUT I DO SUPPORT THIS MOTION AND TO ALL  THAT IT MAY AFFECT.  CONGRATULATIONS.   >> COMMISSIONER MINOR?  >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I'M  VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS   POLICY. EVERYTHING THAT   COMMISSIONER WALSH IS SAID   RESONATED WITH ME AND IS SO   IMPORTANT. AS A FATHER OF YOUNG GIRLS HAVING THAT EXTRA TIME TO BOND WITH THEM WAS VERY   IMPORTANT. I THINK WE SHOULD   JUST VOTE ON THIS NOW.  LET'S  PUT THIS IN AND GET IT THERE SO IF ONE CAN BENEFIT. THANK YOU   ALL. I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.   >> IT DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT   IMMEDIATELY. UPON RATIFICATION  OF WILL.  AS A DON'T CALL THE  MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE EXCLUDED AS THE ONLY WOMAN   HERE. BUT AS A WOMAN WHO IS   WELL PAST CHILDBEARING YEARS,  WHICH I AM, I AM CERTAINLY   ELATED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR   BUDGET ITEM. I AM ALSO EXCITED  FOR YOUNGER MOTHERS AND MOTHERS TO BE THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY. I THINK IT CERTAINLY   DEMONSTRATES CARE AND CONCERN   HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE   CONCERN FOR OUR YOUNG MOTHERS.  AND APPARENTLY ADOPTIVE PARENTS AS WELL. AND FATHERS.   ABSOLUTELY. BUT IT PUTS US IN A COMPETITIVE MODE AS WELL.   BECAUSE WHEN I WORKED FOR THE  STATE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS. YOU COULD TAKE LEAVE BUT YOU WOULD  USE YOUR ANNUAL LEAVE OR YOUR   SICK LEAVE. SO THAT MAKES US   COMPETITIVE AND I FEEL GOOD   ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR   EMPLOYEES FOR THE COUNTY SHOULD FEEL THE CARE AND CONCERN THAT  WE HAVE FOR THEM . AND WE DO   WANT TO KEEP THEM AND DON'T   WANT THEM TO LEAVE AND GO TO  THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO DO   HAVE THESE POLICIES AND NOT   THIS COUNTY. THANK YOU.  FOR   ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THIS. LET IT BE KNOWN IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR? THE MISSION   MOTION WAS UNANIMOUS.  THEY   WILL INTRODUCE THE BUZZ IT  BUDGET DECISION ITEM NUMBER   FIVE?   >> I SHOULD NOTE THE COUNTY   ATTORNEY WANTED IT TO APPLY   WHEN YOUR KIDS BECOME TEENAGERS TOO AND WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS   HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS   CHANGING THIS CURRENT FORMULA  úBASED ON THE ANALYSIS THEY  RECOMMEND THAT WE MAINTAIN A   CURRENT RATE WITH THE HEALTH   CARE PLAN  THE HR ANALYSIS  CONDUCTED.  YOU CAN SEE THE   AGENDA MATERIALS SHARING THE   COST OF PREMIUMS WITH THEIR   EMPLOYEES BASED ON THEIR NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.  IT IS NOT  ONLY COMPETITIVE HERE    MAINTAINING THE CURRENT   CONTRIBUTION RATES  WHICH WE  ARE VERY GOOD THIS YEAR.    MOVING TO THIS SPLIT WOULD   RESULT IN 1.7 MILLION IN AN   INCREASE WHICH IS $761,000 MORE THAN THE PROGRAM FOR THE   CURRENT BUDGET.  BASED ON THE   ANALYSIS IT WOULD REMAIN VERY   COMPETITIVE WITH THE EMPLOYEE  COST AND HEALTHCARE INSURANCE  AS WELL AS THE IMPACT THAT WE   RECOMMEND OPTION ONE AND THIS   IS AN ITEM THAT CANDACE WILSON  JUST DREAMS ABOUT IN HER SLEEP. WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY   QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.    >> I BROUGHT THIS ITEM AND I   WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR VIEWING IT. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SECONDED BY   COMMISSIONER WALSH. GO AHEAD.  >> MADAM CHAIR I RECALL WHEN WE WENT TO THIS 13% IT WAS PAINFUL AND WE DID IT. BUT THE  ADMINISTRATOR HAS ASSURED ME  AND REASSURED ME THAT THIS IS A COMPETITIVE RATE. AND RELATIVE  TO THE GOVERNMENT.  SO THESE  THINGS HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED   AND I WANT TO THANK CANDACE FOR THESE TABLES THAT HELPED TO   BRING CLOSURE WITH RESPECT TO   THE DESIRE TO BRING EMPLOYEE   CONTRIBUTIONS DOWN. IF WE GET   AN 8% NOD WE COULD PULL THIS   BACK UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT  IT. THOSE THINGS BEING SAID  THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.    >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF  ACCEPTING THE MOTION ON THE   FLOOR LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. ANY OPPOSITION? IT IS  UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.   >> THE FINAL BUDGET ITEM BEFORE YOU IS SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO PROVIDE ENHANCEMENTS  IN   ADDITION TO PROVIDING APPARATUS MAINTENANCE  WITH THE FY 25  BUDGET TO CONSTRUCT GROUND   LETTER WATER ON SMITH CREEK   ROAD THE DISTANCE YOU MAY   RECALL US EVALUATING THIS OVER  THE YEARS IN TERMS OF THE   EFFECTIVENESS OF GROUNDWATER   TANKS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE   AND ANALYSIS WE ARE   RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO IT   WITHIN THE CIRCUMSTANCE AND IT  WILL PROVIDE A WATER SUPPLY FOR A LARGE INCIDENTS WITH VECTORS  TO ALLOW THE VFD TO REFILL AT   THE STATION AND IN ADDITION DUE TO RISING COSTS WITH ENGINE AND TANK REPAIR ITEM DOES ALSO   INCLUDE INCREASED FUNDING TO  FULLY COVER THE COST OF   APPARATUS MAINTENANCE AND THERE IS ADEQUATE FUNDING AND WITH  THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING   OPTIONS ONE AND TWO.  >> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR  THANK YOU FOR THAT ANALYSIS.   THIS IS WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT  AND I WILL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF   RECOMMENDATIONS.   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR I   MOVED TO EXCEPT OPTIONS ONE AND TWO.   >> IS THERE A SECOND?   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. WHEN  I AM PASSING OUT NOW IS A   LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE   VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE   DEPARTMENT HOPEFULLY WILL NOT   NEED ONE. I WILL SAY THAT THIS  IS A NEED FOR THE VOLUNTEER   FIRE DEPARTMENT AS THERE IS   ROUGHLY A 10 MILE GAP BETWEEN   WHERE THIS WATER TANK WILL GO  AND THE NEAREST BUS STATION. SO THAT MEANS IN THE INSTANCE OF A FIRE OR EMERGENCY ANYWHERE   SOUTH OR SOUTHWEST OF THE VIRAL VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT THEY  HAVE THOSE THAT HAVE TO TRAVEL  10 MILES TO THE NEAREST PHIL   STATION AND THEN BACK TO WHERE  THE FIRE IS SO IT CUTS OUT   ROUGHLY 20 MINUTES OR MORE OF   RESPONSE TIME FIRST FIRST   RESPONDERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF IN THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR   IDENTIFYING THIS NEED AND  BRINGING IT BEFORE US TO VOTE  ON. I'M ASKING FOR EVERYONE'S SUPPORT AND THANK YOU.    >> MADAM ATTORNEY WITH RESPECT  TO OUR VOLUNTEER  SERVICES AND  THE FACT THAT WE ARE ENDORSED   WITHIN THIS EXPENDITURE OF   MONEY MAKES IT A MISNOMER  WITH FIRE AND RESCUE.  WERE CITIZENS IN THOSE UNINCORPORATED AREAS  WHAT ARE THEY PAY AND DO THEY   ACTUALLY MAINTAIN A ANOTHER  PERCENTAGE  WITH $223 PER   HOUSEHOLD OR RESIDENT AND WE  KEEP A PERCENTAGE OF THAT WITH  VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICES.  IS   THERE A BLEED OFF WITH SOME OF  THAT MONEY AND NOT ALL OF IT   GOING 100% TO THE CITY?   >> AS MENTIONED IN THE LAST   MEETING WE HAVE WITHIN THE  LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY  AND THE BOARD HAS BASED ON THE  RATES CONDUCTED BY A   THIRD-PARTY HIRED BY THE CITY   AND THE COUNTY DID DEVELOP FEES THAT ARE CONTRACTUALLY  OBLIGATED  TO IMPOSE ON   RESIDENTS IN UNINCORPORATED   AREAS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO UNWIND YOUR AGREEMENT AND CHANGE YOUR  RATES BASED ON THE NEW RATE  STUDY SEE YOU HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT. I WOULD ALSO DEFER  TO VENTS TO SUPPLEMENT THAT FOR ANYTHING HE WOULD LIKE?   >> JUST TO ADD TO WHAT THE   COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS HAD AND   OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE VERY FAR   ONTO THIS.  THIS WOULD CHANGE   WHAT THEY HAVE NOW AND WHAT THE EXISTING FIRE SERVICES HAVE IN  PLACE IT DOES TAKE INTO   CONSIDERATION THE VFD AND HOW   THEY FUND THEM CURRENTLY OUT OF THE FIRE SERVICES. IT IS ABOUT  A HALF $1 MILLION A YEAR   CURRENTLY OUT OF THE FIRE   SERVICES FEE AND IT IS   COMPLEMENTED WITHIN THE BUDGET  SERVICES AND ALL OF THAT.   >> WE DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE   GRAPH. WE DIDN'T SEE ANY   MOVEMENT OF THAT MONEY. SO I   GUESS WE HAD ANOTHER CATEGORY   ON THIS LEVEL?  WE NEEDS TO  CAPTURE THAT AND IT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO US.  >> IT IS REFLECTED WITHIN THE   BUDGET DETAILS BUT WE DID NOT   GO TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.   >> IT FEELS STRANGE THAT WE   WOULD BE LEVERAGING $11 MILLION COMING BACK  WITHIN THAT   VOLUNTEER LEVEL.  THANK YOU.    OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL   THOSE IN FAVOR OF STAFF   RECOMMENDATION? ANY OPPOSITION? HERRING ON IT PASSED. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.    >> I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE  CONCERN THOSE HOUSING   AUTHORITIES HERE ANY MOTION?   >> SECONDED.   >> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. IS   THERE ANY DISCUSSION?    >> IF STAFF COULD FORWARD THAT  LETTER TO ME OTHER THAN THAT  THAT IS FINE.    >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO  COMING BACK TO THE NEXT AGENDA  MEETING. THE CITY OF   TALLAHASSEE WILL BE TAKING IT  UP TOMORROW AT THEIR BOARD  MEETING.  JUST FYI THEY SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO ALL OF US WITH THE EMAIL ATTACHED WAS A LETTER  SENT US AS WELL AS THE CITY   AGENDA. I'M READY TO VOTE I   JUST WANTED THAT FOR MY   RECORDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?   COMING ON TO A REQUEST FOR MISS BRENDA AND THE HOUSING  AUTHORITY.  IT IS UNANIMOUS.   THANK YOU ANYTHING COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE?  I WANT TO THANK   STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK IF THIS EVERY YEAR. THIS IS PROBABLY   ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE DO AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THIS IS  THE FIRST BUDGET AND THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB. I COULD TELL YOU   THE NERVES WERE ALL OVER THE   PLACE AND YOU DID VERY WELL   INDICATIVE OF THE BUDGET THAT   WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST YOUR  PREDECESSORS TRAINED YOU WELL.  SO THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR FOR   LEADING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT  BUDGET WORKSHOP WHICH WE WOULD  CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER FOUR   AGAIN. AND I WANT US TO   REMEMBER AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS WHAT IT MEANS. WE WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST KEEP AWARE OF WHAT THE INFLATION IS. THERE IS NO RACE  THAT WE HAVE HERE TO COMPETE   WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTS WHEN IT  COMES TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.    THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.    >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER  CABAN.  COMMISSIONER PROCTOR?   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. STAFF I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR MY   UNDERSTANDING FOR TODAY IT WILL BE PACKAGED IN THE NEXT   ITERATION OF THE BUDGET. AND   THEN WE WOULD HEAR FROM THE  CONSTITUTIONAL'S WHO WOULD   HAVE RESPONDED AND WE WILL GET  WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE LOOKING  LIKE IS THAT ACCURATE FOR THE   NEXT MEETING? OKAY. AND THEN    WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST A SHADOW  OF THAT 5% IS A POSSIBILITY.   THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT  WILL BE A FINAL AND WHAT THE  DEAL ON THAT IS. SO I WOULD   LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT THAT   IS VERY EASY FOR COMMISSIONER  MADDOX TO SUPPORT YOUR MOTION   TODAY. WITH BRENDA WILLIAMS AND THAT FINALITY IN THE   TALLAHASSEE HOUSING AUTHORITY.   ONE OF THESE THINGS FROM MY   UNDERSTANDING AS THEY SEEK TO   DO A NEW MASTER PLAN TO LOOK AT DOING THE SAME TO THE JOE LOUIS HOUSING PROJECT.  MY HOPE IS   THAT THE MASTER PLANNING IS   HERE FOR THE JOE LOUIS HOUSING.  SO SHOUT OUT TO HER.  I KNOW  YOU HAVE BEEN BURNING THE   MIDNIGHT OIL.  USE SET HERE  YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THIS IS MY  FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR.  THIS   WILL BE PASSED AROUND THE  ROTATION OF THESE NUMBERS THAT  HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE   ABILITY TO REACH AND IMPROVE   THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU  ALL. YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL AND YOU HAVE MADE MY TIME WONDERFUL AGAIN. I AM GRATEFUL TO SERVE   WITH THE COMMISSION HERE.  YOU  ARE NOT THE PRETTIEST COUNTY  COMMISSION BUT OUR CHAIR LADY   IS. THEY ARE TRYING TO BRING   THIS UP BUT BESIDES THAT YOU   ARE VERY GOOD TO SEE.  THIS IS  AN UNBELIEVABLE RESPONSE  AND I KNOW WE'VE ALL HAD A TON OF  PHONE CALLS ABOUT FLOODING AND  THIS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFICULT   ISSUE WITH LONG HOURS IN THE   PUBLIC WORKS AREAS WHERE I   WOULD CONTEND AND SUBJECTIVELY  IS THE GREATEST PUBLIC WORKS   DEPARTMENT IN THE WORLD. JUST  SUPER RESPONSIVE AND CAPABLE.   IT ALWAYS MAKES US LOOK GOOD.   THEY REALLY SHOW UP AND THAT   SPEAKS TO MY POINT THOSE FOLKS  ARE OUT ALL NIGHT 24 HOURS OF   TIME JUST TO FIX WHAT THEY HAD  TO DO IMMEDIATELY. I KNOW THAT  THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED   IN THESE DEPARTMENTS AND  CERTAINLY THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR IS KEEPING US IN  THE LOOP AND KEEPING US   INFORMED TELLING US THIS IS THE STATUS OF THIS AND THAT  AND   IT'S VERY MICRO HANDLED AND I  APPRECIATE THAT.    >> I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AS  YOU ALL KNOW WE LOST OUR  GOVERNOR  ALL THOSE IN FAVOR   LET IT BE KNOWN? NO OPPOSITION. >> PLEASE NOTE IN THE  RESOLUTION THAT THE COMMISSION  WOULD TOLERATE THAT I AM A   FORMER STAFFER AND I WANT TO   NOTE THAT BUT FOR HIS OFFICE I  WOULD NOT BE HERE. SO ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNTY AND THE COUNTY   COMMISSIONER HE IS HER BOSS.  >> I ALSO WORK FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND I THINK MANY OF US  HAVE FOND MEMORIES AND   CONNECTIONS WITH GOVERNOR   GRAHAM AND I WANT TO REITERATE  IN YOUR REMARKABLE STAFF THERE  ARE SENTIMENTS HERE WITH ALL   THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE HARD  WORK THAT YOU DO WITHIN THAT   PRESENTATION BOTH VERBALLY AND  WITHIN WRITTEN ANALYSIS THERE   IS A ROADMAP TO ALL OF US THAT  IS ON TOP OF THAT BUDGET AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY  MUCH AND I HOPE THAT WHAT WE DO HERE  DOES NOT DEFLATE OUR   EMPLOYEES. WE WILL BE LOOKING   AT ADDRESSING ALL OF THIS. THE  EXECUTIVES THE ADMINISTRATORS   THOSE THAT ARE IN THE TRENCHES  AND WE CERTAINLY WITNESSED ALL  OF THIS DURING THE FLOODING  OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS SO WE   APPRECIATES THE HARD WORK AND   OF COURSE WE DO GET ACCOLADES  ALL THE TIME FOR COMMON   SENTENCE AND CITIZENS WHO   REPRESENT ALL OF THIS BUT   ESPECIALLY DURING THAT FLOODING A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. SO THANK  YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.   AND I APOLOGIZE MADAM COUNTY   ATTORNEY DO YOU HAVE ANY   COMMENTS?   >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.   >> NOTHING FURTHER THEN. JUST A SINCERE THANK YOU TO THE BOARD  FOR ALL OF YOUR CONTINUED   ALSO WANT TO GIVE HER SHONDA A  SHOUT OUT HERE FOR LEADING US  TO THIS PROCESS. COMMISSIONER   MADDOX SAID WE ONLY LOST 70   YEARS BUT SHE HAS STEPPED UP   AND TRUTH BE TOLD SHE'S BEEN  DOING THIS BUDGET FOR ABOUT A   DECADE ANYWAY.'S WE REALLY   APPRECIATE HER AND COMMISSIONER WELCH I'M TOLD IS THE MASTER   BRANDER REFERRING TO THAT APRIL 11th STORM A HAPPENED IN 2024   AND THE NATIONAL WEATHER  SERVICE TELLS US IT WAS A ONCE  IN 200 YEAR EVENT. SO   HENCEFORTH THIS IS THE   BICENTENNIAL STORM THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU MR. COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE?   >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR  BEING FULLY IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THIS LEFT ALREADY FORGOTTEN THE PERSONS BEFORE YOU.   >> SHOUT OUTS TO ALL OF YOU   HERE. THANK YOU. THIS MEETING   IS NOW ADJOURNED.