>> WELCOME BACK TO THE SECOND  PORTION OF OUR COMMISSION  MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL   THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE HAVE   SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING.   >> MADAM CHAIR.   >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX, ARE YOU HERE?   >> OKAY, AWESOME. THANK YOU,   COMMISSIONER MADDOX . WE HAVE  SCHEDULED AT 6:00, A PUBLIC   HEARING. I WILL TURN IT OVER  NOW TO OUR COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ITEM NUMBER 31 IS YOUR PUBLIC   HEARING TO CONSIDER THE NINTH   AMENDMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. COMMISSIONERS, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU  CONDUCT THIS PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.   HAPPY THAT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.   >> ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ON   THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKERS.   COMMISSIONERS?   >> I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A  MOTION. IS THERE DISCUSSION  AFTER THE MOTION?  >> I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR   STAFF RECOMMENDATION.  >> THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU. DISCUSSION FROM  COMMISSIONERS?  HEARING NONE.   ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE   KNOWN BY SAYING THREE.   COMMISSIONER MADDOX?    >> AYE .  >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER? >> NOT ON THAT ITEM.  >> THANK YOU. WE ARE BACK TO  OUR GENERAL SPEAKERS ON THIS   ITEM. I TURN IT OVER TO YOU.  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.   BEFORE I HAND IT BACK TO YOU TO FACILITATE THE BOARD, I KNOW  YOU HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF   SPEAKERS BEFORE THE BREAK. I   JUST WANTED TO. WE'VE GOT.   THIS IS ALL HIS FAULT BUT HE  CAN ANY ANSWERS TO ANY   QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE   ABOUT ANY OF THIS. LET ME JUST  SAY, COMMISSIONERS, TOO, TO   WALK YOU THROUGH IT AND   SIMPLIFY IT. THIS IS AN  OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. IN SIMPLE MATH, THOUGH, REALLY  -- I WILL HIT A COUPLE THINGS.  HOW WE HAVE AT LEAST FOUGHT   THROUGH THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS.  THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I   SHOULD SAY TO YOU IS THIS IS   SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE.   TO GIVE US WHATEVER DIRECTION  YOU WOULD LIKE AND WE WILL BE   HAPPY TO ACCEPT IT. THE  OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE IS ONE  THAT STARTS WITH -- STARTED   PRIOR TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES  COUNCIL TO GOING ON THE BALLOT  IN 2020.  CREATE $9 MILLION.  NEW MONEY. MONEY THAT WAS NOT   HERE BEFORE. PRIOR TO THE ISSUE THAT THE BOARD HAD TO PLACE IF  YOU WANT VALID. THERE WAS LOTS  OF CONVERSATION LEADING UP TO   THAT. THROUGHOUT WHICH CASE IT  WAS VERY WELL UNDERSTOOD THAT   THIS CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD, EVEN THOUGH IT IS   NOT A LOT OF MONEY, TO REALIGN  DOLLARS IN SERVICES CSC OVER A  PERIOD OF TIME. THE BOARD   PASSED A MEMORANDUM OF   UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE   COUNTY AND THE CSC AND THE CITY TO WORK TOGETHER OVER A PERIOD  OF TIME TO ESCORT ALONG THOSE   LINES. THIS PROPOSAL ALIGNS   WITH OTHER PRIORITIES OF THE  BOARD. IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED.   THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE HAS BEEN MENTIONED, OF COURSE. THIS IS   AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A  RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF   MONEY. THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE  ALLOWS YOU TO ADDRESS OVER THE  COURSE OF TWO YEARS, PRESSING  ISSUES LIKE HOMELESSNESS. NO   LONGER BENEFITING FROM THE   INFUSION OF FEDERAL DOLLARS  THAT WE RECEIVED TO ADDRESS   OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.   AND AGAIN, IT IS SIMPLY AN  OPPORTUNITY . WE HAVE TRIED TO  ON YOUR MOST RECENT DIRECTION,  THE COURT DATE AND INDICATE   WITH AGENCIES TO DEAL WITH ANY  TRANSITION ISSUES WE MAY HAVE.  WITH THE PROCESS A VERY LONG   TIME AND HAVE MADE A LOT OF  OVER THE YEARS THE PROCESS. ALL WITH THE IN AND OF LEVERAGING  HUMAN VERSUS DOLLARS, OF WHICH  WE DO NOT HAVE DEDICATED   REVENUES. WITH THAT IN MIND, I  WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU IF YOU  CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRANSITION WE HAVE OPPOSED.   >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY I AM   VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE   HARD WORK THAT OUR AGENCIES DO  AS WELL AS OUR HUMAN SERVICE   PROVIDERS PROVIDE. THEY HAVE   PROVIDED GREAT INPUT AND   FEEDBACK. NINE TIMES OVER THE  LAST COUPLE MONTHS TO TALK   ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT AND TALK  THROUGH A TRANSITION PLAN.  TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OH   ALL THE CONCERNS, ALL THE   FEEDBACK AND INPUT AND BRINGING TO YOU WHAT WE BROUGHT TONIGHT  AS WHAT YOU REQUESTED. THE   BOARD ASKED THAT IN LOOKING   WITH THE REALIGNMENT, WE DO IT  IN CONCERT WITH OUR HUMAN   SERVICE PROVIDERS. THAT IS THE  STEPS WE TOOK. I THINK IT WAS   VERY IN LIGHT FULL AND CRITICAL THAT WE DID THAT. THAT IS WHY  ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE  DO AS PART OF THE TRANSITION   PLAN IS BUT WE ASSURE THERE IS  A SAFETY NET. CAN APPLY FOR   FUNDING FOR CHSP. THAT IS THE   MOST CRITICAL IN DEVELOPING AND LOOKING AT YOUR TRANSITION PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT AGENCIES THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL   FUNDING STILL WOULD BE ABLE TO  APPLY FOR FUNDING THROUGH CHSP. THOSE THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CSC DOLLARS WOULD APPLY AND  DURING THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WE  WOULD WORK WITH THEM IN   PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, THE  UNITED PARTNERS TO PREPARE  THEM, PROVIDE THEM TECHNICAL   SUPPORT AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT  MAY COME UP FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR FUNDING IN THE   FOLLOWING YEAR. THE SECOND YEAR OF THE FUNDING CYCLE. THE GOAL  WAS TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY SO THERE WAS NO   HARM IN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO APPLY. IT IS A COMPETITIVE   PROCESS. STILL REMAINS A   COMPETITIVE PROCESS. AGENCIES   MUST APPLY TO. FUNDING IS NOT   GUARANTEED. SAME THING WITH THE CSC. THE FUNDING IS NOT   GUARANTEED. THE OTHER THING WE  WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID  WITH THE TIMELINE WAS IN  ALIGNING WITH THE CSC IS THAT   WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE  DO OPEN THE PORTAL FOR  APPLICATIONS,  WHEN WORKING  WITH THE CSC, WHAT THE CRITERIA WOULD BE FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR  FUNDING IN EARLY LEARNING. THAT IS THE PATH THAT THEY ARE   HEADED FOR THE NEXT FUNDING   OPPORTUNITY COMING UP IN THE   NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IF THOSE   CRITERIA'S WERE EITHER VERY   STRINGENT, THAT AGENCIES CANNOT APPLY FOR OR THAT THEY WERE NOT PUTTING ENOUGH DOLLARS INTO  DOING THAT OPPORTUNITY,   AGENCIES COULD STILL COME   THROUGH CHSP AND APPLY. THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO ALIGN THAT   EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE,   COMMISSIONERS, HAS BEEN   CONSISTENT WITH STRATEGIC  INITIATIVES AND WORKING WITH  COUNSEL.  WORKING WITH THE  CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, AND  TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE  MOST PRESSING ISSUES THAT WE  KNOW IS COMING DOWN AND YOU   KNOW THOSE LIMITED RESOURCES   THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WILL   REQUIRE US TO BE VERY   METHODICAL IN HOW WE INVEST  THOSE LIMITED RESOURCES.  HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.  >> I HAVE A QUESTION. DOING   THAT TWO YEAR CYCLE THAT YOU  ALL ARE PROPOSING, A   TRANSITIONAL PERIOD. WHAT   HAPPENED TO ENTITIES AFTER THE  TWO YEAR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD.   THAT IS NOT RECEIVED ANY   FUNDING FROM THE CHILDREN  SERVICES COUNCIL?   >> AGENCIES THAT CANNOT APPLY   FOR -- NEW TWO YEAR FUNDING   CYCLE SHOULD REGARDING THE  CATEGORIES OF HOW WE WOULD   ESTABLISH THE CATEGORIES FOR   THE FOLLOWING TWO YEAR FUNDING  CYCLE. THIS UP COMING TWO YEAR  FUNDING CYCLE, AN OPPORTUNITY   IN WHICH AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT  ELIGIBLE FOR CHILDREN SERVICES  COUNCIL FUNDING CAN APPLY.    THROUGH CHSP. DOES THE HAPPY  ELIGIBILITY, WHICH RIGHT NOW,   THE CATEGORIES WOULD APPLY TO  THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL.  IF THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO   APPLY, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH   CHSP.  >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST   WANT TO CLARIFY. DURING THE TWO YEAR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD, THEY  CAN COME BACK. MY QUESTION IS  WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE TWO YEAR TRANSITIONAL PERIOD?   >> AFTER THE TRANSITIONAL  PERIOD, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH  THE COUNCIL FOR FUNDING   OPPORTUNITIES.  >> IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY, WHAT HAPPENS?  >> IF THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE AND DON'T QUALIFY -- IF THEY   DON'T QUALIFY IT'S BECAUSE  THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE   FUNDING PROCESS THROUGH CSC.   WILL THERE BE A FUNDING   OPPORTUNITY? IF THERE IS A  FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO APPLY, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. IF   THERE IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO APPLY THROUGH, THEN  THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH CHSP.  >> AFTER THAT TWO YEAR   TRANSITIONAL PERIOD, IT   CONTINUES. BUT IS IT DO THAT   THEY CAN CONTINUE TO APPLY? IF  THEY ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE  CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL?   >> THE CHILDREN SERVICES   COUNCIL, ONE FUNDING   OPPORTUNITIES COME AVAILABLE,   WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH  THOSE AGENCIES SO THAT WAY THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY   THROUGH THE CHILDREN SERVICES   COUNCIL. IF THERE IS NOT AN   OPPORTUNITY, THERE IS STILL   OTHER CATEGORIES THAT IS WITHIN CHSP THAT MAY BE ABLE TO APPLY  TO FOR FUNDING.  >> OKAY, THANK YOU.   COMMISSIONERS?   >> COMMISSIONER WELCH?   >> THANK YOU. I NEED SOME   CLARITY ON THAT TOO. I THINK  WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS   IF THEY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE  TRYING TO BUILD A LANDING PAD   OR THE FOLKS WHOSE FUNDING IS   AT RISK. I THINK WITH THE   CHAIR, SUGGESTING WHAT HAPPENS  IF THEY DON'T GET FUNDING FROM CHSP OR CSP 26, WHENEVER THIS   TRANSITION PERIOD ENDS. THE  QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF   THEY WERE TO NOT GET FUNDING?   THEN YOU ARE SAYING THEY'D   COME BACK. TRY TO FIT THEM IN A CATEGORY THAT THEY HAVE LEFT?   >> THROUGH CHSP, THEY CAN   IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES THAT  THEY CAN APPLY TO THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT WOULD EXIST.  COMMISSIONERS, AS A   RECOMMENDATION, IF THAT   SOMETHING WERE SEEING, WE ARE   CREATING CATEGORIES AND FUNDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE WHERE THEY   COULD APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDING   THROUGH THE CATEGORY.   >> I DO SEE WE ARE IN THAT   CATEGORY. THAT IS KIND OF LIKE  A SAFETY NET IF THE AGENCIES   CANNOT SECURE CSC FUNDING.   >> IF THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO  APPLY, IF THERE IS NOT A  FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT  EXISTS.   >> GOT YOU. BY THE NEXT CHSP   TWO YEAR CYCLE.   >> WE ARE BASICALLY AT THE  BIDDING OF IT DO YOU YEAR CYCLE NUMBER RIGHT? IF YOU CANNOT GET FUNDING IN SOMETIME IN THIS   NEXT CYCLE, THE SUPPLEMENT OR   REPLACE THE FUNDING THAT WE ARE POTENTIALLY REMOVING. YOU CAN   COME BACK TO CHSP UNDER THE.    >> DO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY  TO APPLY TO COUNSEL?  IF   THERE'S NOT OPPORTUNITIES THAT APPLY FOR CHILDREN SERVICES  COUNCIL, THERE WOULD BE   OPPORTUNITY THROUGH CHSP. IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER AS PART   OF THAT PROCESS, WE WOULD BE  WORKING WITH THOSE AGENCIES TO  ENSURE THAT THEY CAN APPLY.  WHEN THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL.   >> WRIGHT,  WE WILL WALK YOU   THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THEY   ARE GOING I DO NOT KNOW. WE ARE WALKING OUT IN THE SIMPLE   TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE  WHERE THERE IS SOME CONCERN.  AND I TRUST YOU WHAT WERE  TRYING TO DO HERE.  AS THE  PREVIOUS ITEM WE DISCUSSED   EARLIER, EVERYBODY IS   WELL-INTENTIONED. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A JOB WORKING WITH USEFUL. THESE FOLKS. AM I   CHARACTERIZING THIS RIGHT? AM I WRONG?  >> YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SIGNIFY  IT. THESE AGENCIES WILL HAVE TO TRANSITION TO THE CSC PROCESS  TO RECEIVE FUNDING IF THEY ARE  ELIGIBLE  FOR THE CSC FUNDING.  IT IS THE WAY THAT YOU CREATE  DOLLARS IN THIS PROCESS TO,   THEN, DO OTHER THINGS IF YOU   DECIDE TO DO IT. THAT IS WHERE  YOUR STRAIGHTFORWARD. DO I   THINK THE AGENCIES -- HAVE A   SCENE THE AGENCIES TRANSITION   TO CHANGES LIKE AS IN THE PAST  AND BE ABLE TO ADAPT. ASSIST   WITH THE MONEY.  IF YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE, IT MAY BE BEST TO SAY WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.   NEXT YEAR, THE CSC HAS SAID  WERE GOING TO FUND SUMMER YOUTH AND EARLY LEARNING. WE SAY   GREAT MAMA UNDER THIS PROPOSAL  SO WE WILL NOT FUND THOSE  PROGRAMS. WE WILL ELIMINATE   THOSE CATEGORIES. JUST THOSE   TWO. FOR THAT, YOU HAVE TO   APPLY. WERE GOING TO MAKE YOU  APPLY FOR THAT OVER THERE AND  IF YOU DON'T GET FUNDED, IF   YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE, WERE   GOING TO GIVE YOU A YEAR TO   COME BACK. IF THINGS DIDN'T   WORK OUT, YOU'RE STILL GOING   TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR   FUNDING. AND IN THAT YEAR, WERE GOING TO TRY TO WORK TO GET YOU ELIGIBLE. WHATEVER  HURDLES YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE MEETING,   IT'S IN OUR COLLECTIVE  INTEREST THAT YOU COULD   ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROCESS. WE  WILL WORK WITH YOU OVER THAT   PERIOD OF TIME. BUT AFTER THAT  TIME, TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION  SPECIFICALLY, THEY WOULD HAVE  TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE CHSP IN  THOSE CATEGORIES. AND THEN THE  NEXT YEAR, WE WOULD FURTHER   ELIMINATE. JUST AN OPTION FOR  THE BOARD -- WE WOULD ELIMINATE FURTHER CATEGORIES THAT THE CSC INTENDS TO FUND. TO ELIMINATE   DUPLICATION AND TO ELIMINATE   POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT THE CSC COULD GET INTO BECAUSE THERE'S STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS. NOT  CREATING DUPLICATE IF FUNDING   CYCLES. WE ARE DOING IT IN   COORDINATION ADDRESSING   OPPOSITIONS. WILL THAT   TIMECLOCK RUN OUT IF YOU GO   OVER THIS TIME AT WHICH UNDER   THIS SUPPOSEDLY WOULD HAVE TO  A MUST THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR   ANOTHER FUNDING CATEGORY THAT   IS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CHSP   PROCESS. MUCH OF THE SERVICES  WILL TRANSITION OVER THAT  PERIOD OF TIME TO THE CSC.   >> THAT MAKES IT CRYSTAL CLEAR, RIGHT? THANK YOU.  >> MISSIONERS COMMISSIONER,  OKAY.    >> ALL KNOCK OUT THE EASY ONE   FIRST. THE BUDGET IMPACT, I   WANT TO CONFIRM I HAVE THIS   RIGHT. THE BUDGET IMPACT IS   FREEING UP THE FISCAL YEAR WERE ABOUT THE STAR IN FREEING UP    $116,000 IN THE NEXT FISCAL  YEAR AFTER THAT?   >> CORRECT.   >> OKAY, THANK YOU.   >> OF COUNTY DOLLARS.   >> COUNTY DOLLARS, YEAH. OKAY.  IF IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE, IT'S BECAUSE   IT'S AN IMPORTANT HORSE. NO  OFFENSE TO THE TRAIL RIDERS.    WERE TALKING ABOUT TRANSITION   BUT I'M GOING TO DO LIKE WERE  DOING AND A CARDIO. I WANT TO   SEE AND WRITINGS, STEP-BY-STEP. THE PLAN LAID OUT IN THIS ITEM  IS THAT IN EARLY MARCH, WE   EXPECT THE CSC TO ISSUE   REQUIREMENTS FOR PEOPLE TO   APPLY, FOR AGENCIES TO APPLY.  >> WE EXPECT THE BOARD TO   ESTABLISH WHAT THE CRITERIA  WILL BE FOR EARLY LEARNING  FUNDING.   >> COOL. AND THE PEOPLE WHO GET CHSP WHO ARE AT RISK OF FALLING OFF WILL GET TO LOOK AT THOSE   RULES AND SAY OH, IT LOOKS LIKE I FIT AND I CAN APPLY. I WILL   APPLY. OR NO I DON'T FIT AND   THEREFORE, THE COUNTY IS GOING  TO LET ME APPLY FOR ANOTHER   CYCLE OF CHSP FUNDING BY THE  END OF MARCH.   >> WE WILL LOOK AT THAT TO  DETERMINE WORKING WITH THE CSC, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE   ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROCESS. TO  DETERMINE THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROCESS, THEY HAVE TO GO  TO APPLY CSC.  >> AND THEN THEY APPLY AND THE  CSC DECIDE ON A VERY   COMPETITIVE BASIS WHO DOES AND  DOES NOT GET AWARDS. LET'S SAY SOME OF THESE FOLKS DO NOT END  UP GETTING AN AWARD BECAUSE   THEY WERE NOT IN THAT CASE.   WHEN DO THEY COME BACK TO THE   COUNTY TO SAY OH, I DIDN'T GET THAT FUNDING AND WHEN CAN THEY  GET FUNDING BACK TO THE REST OF THE CYCLE?   >> THEY DO NOT COME BACK.  >> OKAY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO  EVERYBODY. IF YOU APPLY AND   DON'T GET THROUGH, WE WILL   HELP YOU. WERE SAYING IF YOU   CAN'T APPLY, GOOD LUCK AND WE  HOPE YOU GET IT. IF YOU CAN'T  APPLY FROM THE START, WE WILL   HELP YOU. THANK YOU.   >> THANK YOU.   >> AGAIN, JUST LIKE , HAS A   COMPETITIVE PROCESS. FUNDING IS NOT GUARANTEED THROUGH CHSP OR  THE COUNCIL PROCESS.   >> THANK YOU. OTHER  COMMISSIONERS?  COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR?  >> I AM TRULY IMPRESSED WITH   OUR COUNTY STAFF. I REALLY AM.  WE HAVE THE MOST OUTSTANDING   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ON PLANET  EARTH. YOU HAVE TO FEEL GOOD .  SINCE MY CONVERSATION,    PROVIDERS AND LEADERS  IN SOME  CROWDED WITH A VERY CLEAR  VISION OF EFFICIENCIES THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SAID WOULD WORK. I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING  WITH ME THROUGH THE CHALLENGES  OF. I LIKE THAT. I APPRECIATE   YOU SPENDING TIME TO HELP. I   KNOW THAT WERE TRYING TO REACH  THESE MODELS OF EFFICIENCY AND  ONE OF THE THINGS OVER TIME, IS THAT OUR COUNTY WILL CENTRALIZE OUR STREAMLINED OF THINGS SUCH  AS THE POINTS THAT WE TALKED   ABOUT EARLIER. ONE SUCH   OCCASION WAS TO ALLOW THE   PEOPLE FROM THE GREEN LAKE TO   MAINTAIN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS   THAT THEY COULD LET THE   LEADERSHIP WITH STREAMLINED   PROCUREMENT CATEGORIES LIKE MW.  WE DONE ANYTHING BUT MERGE   WITH THE CITY. I BELIEVE THAT  MODELS OF EFFICIENCY, BUSINESS  MODELS THAT WORK WELL IN  PERFECT.  NO ONE WANTS TO ARGUE AGAINST THESE MODELS OF   BUSINESS EFFICIENCY. THAT IS   WHAT WE DO. PERFECT MODELS. THE CULTURAL COMPETENCIES CANNOT BE MODELED. THAT DON'T FIT IN A   MODEL. WHAT IT TAKES TO REACH   THE NET NEGLECTED, REJECTED,   NEGLECTED. ALL OF THAT. AND  WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM TONIGHT  IS AS TALENTED.  A GALAXY OF  SUPERSTARS WHO DO HUMAN   SERVICES IN THESE COMMUNITIES.  THERE IS NO FINER COLLECTIVE OF EXQUISITE PROVIDERS THEN WE'VE HEARD FROM. DAVE SAID SLOW   DOWN. I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THEM. I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THEM OVER THE CREDENTIAL , THE  AWARDS AND CERTIFICATES OF MY   OWN STAFF BECAUSE ALL THE   YEARS, SOCIAL AGENCIES HAVE  BEEN MADE TODUKE IT OUT. AN  EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE PROCESS.  THERE IS NOTHING COMPETITIVE   FOR WALT McNEIL TO COME IN HERE AND SAY I NEED $5 MILLION. WE  BARELY SCRATCH ON A SHEET OF   PAPER OR ASK WHY.  BUT OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE DRAGGED SOCIAL   AGENCIES BY THEIR ANKLES.  MANY 6-98 REVOLVED THROUGH THERE.  EVEN AN APPLICATION FOR THE   CHSP, THEY WERE AGENCIES THAT   WERE VERY EFFICIENT IN THE   FIELD BUT INEFFICIENT IN THE  PAPERWORK.  THEY FELL OFF THE  WAGON BECAUSE SOME DIDN'T HAVE COMPUTERS, SOME DIDN'T KNOW   WHAT A SPREADSHEET WAS. BUT   ONE-ON-ONE IN THE CRISIS OF   HUMAN ENGAGEMENT IS VERY GOOD.   WHAT IS THIS? THE OTHER   COMPONENT WHICH I AM LISTENING  TO TONIGHT IS THAT CHSP IS  ABOUT 25 YEARS OLD.  LIFE OF   ITS OWN OF 25 YEARS OLD, WE ARE SEEKING TO TRANSFER TO AN   AGENCY WHICH IS ABOUT TWO YEARS OLD.  AND IN THAT TWO YEAR  PERIOD,  THEIR GROUNDING, THEIR MISSION, THEIR VISION, THESE   THINGS ARE BEING CRYSTALLIZED   AS WELL AS THEIR PROCESS. THIS  IS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WEIGHT.  WAS EVEN FIT UNDER THE  STATUTORY GUIDELINES WHICH    THEY CAN ASSUME THIS WORK. NOT  ONLY IS THE CSC YOUNG, YOUTHFUL AND FINDING ITS OWN . BUT TO   DUMP A 25-YEAR-OLD AGENCY WITH  ALL OF THE SUITCASES IN BAGGAGE IS, THE PEOPLE, HOW THEY TALK,  HAVE A COME AT YOU. THE NUANCES OF WHAT THEY ARE REALLY SAYING. THEY KNOW THIS. CSC DOES NOT.   IF YOU ASK AND SAID TO ME CAN   WE REPLACE THE CSC UNDER THE   UMBRELLA OF THE CHSP, I WILL  SAY THEY ARE SEASONED,   EXPERIENCED. THEY COULD   DEFINITELY ASSUME LEADERSHIP.   YOU ARE ASKING TONIGHT THAT WE  PONDER CAN A TWO-YEAR-OLD   ORGANIZATION RESPECT THE   RESPONSIBILITIES IF OVERTIME,   THEIR OWN TRIBUTARIES AND   MEANDERING PATHWAYS HISTORY  THAT IS NOT EASILY GIVEN TO   CSC. NOT COMFORTABLE PLACING  THAT WEIGHT ON THEM. IS MADAM  CHAIR, YOU ARE MORE AWARE THAT  THIS SUMMER, WHEN THE  OPPORTUNITY WAS THERE FOR THE   BOARD OF THE CSC TO ACCEPT 13%  INCREASES AS OPPOSED TO  RECEIVING NEW MONEY AND  PROGRAMS FOR THE CHILDREN OF   OUR COMMUNITY. THE CSC BOARD  SAID HOLED UP , WE ARE NOT   THERE. WE WILL HOLD UP WHERE WE ARE. AND THEY DID. THE CITY DID NOT ROLLBACK. THE COUNTY DID   NOT ROLLBACK. THE COUNTY IS 200 AS WELL. THE SCHOOL BOARD.  CSC ROLLED BACK AND REFUSED NEW  MONIES TO HELP POOR CHILDREN.  THOSE ARE THE FACTS. IT IS A   PRECEDENT. SIX MONTHS LATER, I  AM TO BE PERSUADED THAT  MONEY  DID NOT MAX OUT ON THEIR PAST  CITIES BUT THEY REFUSED IT.    WHY WOULD THEY WANT NEW MONEY   NOW? EVEN SOME OF IT IS NOT   SYNCHRONIZED WITH ACTIVITIES   AND FUNCTIONS. BUT IN SIX   MONTHS TIME, A NEW CHARGE, A   NEW DESIRE TO RECEIVE MONEY.   THEY DID NOT RECEIVE WHAT THEY  COULD RECEIVE. I CANNOT   RECONCILE THAT.  TONIGHT, I AM  PERSUADED BY THE NAMES YOU'VE  HEARD OVER THE YEARS. IT IS NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD   FIGHTERS. IT'S THAT THEY ARE   GOOD WRITERS.  THEIR HEARTS  HAVE BEEN ON THE LINE. THERE   COMMITMENT IN THE TRENCHES OF   BEEN THERE. EVERYBODY WHO HAS   COME UP HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK  IN THE INTEREST OF HUMAN   SERVICES, IF YOU COULD GIVE HIM A MILITARY RANKING, WOULD BE A  GENERAL. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.   IS NOT HARMFUL. WE ARE NOT JUST MOVING TO MOVE. WE ARE DEALING  WITH THE MOST SENSITIVE ELEMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. POOR PEOPLE.  HOMELESS PEOPLE. I COUNTED 50   CHILDREN. 50 BLUE SHIRTS IN   HERE SAID I COULD BE AFFECTED.  WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE NAMES   THAT WOULD SLIP THROUGH THE  CRACKS. THEY WOULD NOT COME   IMMEDIATELY FOR SECURE   PROTECTED OF MONEY. I PLEAD. I  CANNOT LOOK AT THOSE KIDS AND   ROLL DICE. I'M NOT GOING TO   ROLL THE DICE ON WHAT IS   POSSIBLE. YOU JUST DON'T   GAMBLE THAT. MAYBE,   COMMISSIONERS, IF THE SHERIFF   COULD GET ANY KIND OF MONEY,   ANYTHING HE WANTED.  HUMAN  SERVICES DO NOT GET THAT   OPPORTUNITY. HUMAN SERVICES   JUST DO NOT GET IT. THEY DO  HAVE TO FIGHT. IT IS   COMPETITIVE. I APPRECIATE ALAN  BECAUSE I SAID WE DO NOT SPEND  AT LEAST 1% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET ON HUMAN SERVICES. ALAN   ROSENBERG INDICATED THAT WE   SEND SPEND EIGHT PERCENTAGE  GREATER THAN 1%. I APPRECIATE  BEING CORRECTED IN THAT REGARD. I AM HOPEFUL THAT TONIGHT,  WE  CAN FIND A REASON TO PAUSE AND  I AM NOT INTERESTED IN MODELING BUSINESS EFFICIENCY OVER WHAT I KNOW IS CULTURAL COMPETENCY.   RIGHT NOW, FOOD PRICES ARE UP,  GAS IS FLUCTUATING .   HOMELESSNESS IS HAPPENING FOR A REASON. CHILDREN ARE MISSING.   THIS IS NOT THE MOMENT TO  GAMBLE.  IN THE WE HAD THE CHSP PROCESS AND IN THE SHORT OF   MEMORY, IT'LL TAKE YOU BACK AS FAR BACK BUT YOU HAD TO   QUALIFY. IF YOU DID NOT   QUALIFY, YOU HAD TO SEND BY   SOME ST TO APPLY TO BE   CONSIDERED. BEFORE THEN,   EVERYBODY CAME IN THIS ROOM,  BROKE THEM UP SOME MONEY AND   TRIED TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME.   USUALLY, EVERYBODY GOT SOME   WHETHER WE BECAME BEFORE THE   COUNTY COMMISSION. WE WENT TO  THE CHSP WITH THE CITY AND IT   HAS NOT GOTTEN.  THE CHSP HAS   TWO FIVE FOR EVERY DOLLAR AND  WE WANT TO PLACE THOSE PEOPLE   UNDER THE CHILDREN SERVICES   COUNCIL WHICH TURNS DOWN   DOLLARS. I CANNOT RECONCILE IT.  I LOVE EVERYBODY IN THE  RESPECTIVE PLACES OF WHAT THEY  DO BUT RIGHT NOW, MEASURING THE ENTITIES, THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND WHAT TO. AND  AUTOMATION ON A UNIT. YOU WANT  THIS TO BE ORGANIC. THIS IS NOT AN ORGANIC PAIRING IN MY EYES.  I'M ASKING, MADAM CHAIR, WE   TIME OUT, PULL THE CORD,  MAINTAIN STATUS QUO FOR NOW.  THE ASK OF THE COMMUNITY IS   ADDITIONAL STUDY. ADDITIONAL   REVIEW. THE COMPETENCIES OF WHO IS ASKING.  IF THEY DID NOT  HAVE THE TRACK RECORD AND YEARS OF SERVICE. ALL-STARS WOULD NOT PAY HIM MIND. WE CAN ILL AFFORD TO IGNORE THE PLEAS OF THESE  VETERANS OF HUMAN SERVICES. THE WARS FOR PEOPLE'S LIVES. I'M  ASKING TONIGHT TO LISTEN TO   THIS ELEMENT.  THAT IS NOT TO   SAY THAT WE ARE NOT PERFECT. WE ARE VERY PERFECT EXCEPT FOR ONE NOT. OTHERWISE QUITE PERFECT.   WITH COMMOTION THAT WE WOULD   PAUSE THIS AND ALLOW FOR   CONTINUAL DIALOGUE DELIBERATION AND SHARPENING OF PENCILS TO   GET A PROCESS. I ALSO CONFESS   THIS RIGHT HERE. I HONESTLY   THOUGHT THAT WE WERE ALL GOING  TO SING AND WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE OF MUSIC. WITH WHAT I HAVE HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE   COMMUNITY, I AM WILLING TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AND SLOW THE   TERRAIN DOWN.   >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A   SECOND? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER   DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE .   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.  THE THING I THINK WE OUGHT TO KEEP  IN MIND IS THAT, ONE, I AM   SORRY THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED A   RUSHED DECISION TO CONTINUE TO  COME IN SUCH A WAY THAT MOST OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE SPENT ALL DAY TODAY  PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE   NEEDIEST IN OUR IMMUNITY ENOUGH TO DO IT AGAIN TOMORROW WITH   LIMITED RESOURCES -- NEED TO   SPEND THEIR EVENING ADVOCATING  TO CONTINUE WHAT WE'VE   EXISTING DONE. I ESPECIALLY  FEEL BAD THAT WE MADE IT SUCH  BUT I'M SURE THOSE KIDS LOVED  COMING HERE BUT I AM ALSO SURE  THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BETTER   THINGS TO DO IF WE DIDN'T PUT  ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE   SITUATION OVER NEXT YEAR'S   BUDGET OVER $23,000. KEEP THAT  IN MIND. KEEP THAT NUMBER IN   MIND. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT  400 UNTIL TWO YEARS FROM NOW. I APPRECIATE WE NEED TO DO NO   HARM. WHAT WE ARE ASKING THEM   IS TO COMPLETELY CHANGE WHAT   THEY ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR   WITH KEY FUNDING THAT THEY NOT  ONLY GET FROM US BUT WE HEARD   GETS TRIPLE MATCH FROM THE   FEDS. IN A FEW WEEKS, THEY   WOULD GET THE NEW RULES 60 DAYS FROM NOW WHEN THEY HAVE A FEW  WEEKS TO CHANGE WITH THEIR  APPLICATIONS IS. THAT MAY SOUND LIKE PLENTY OF TIME BUT IN THE  NONPROFIT GRANT WORLD, THIS IS  WHATEVER THIS IS. THE SNAP OF  THE FINGER. NOT ENOUGH TIME.   OVER $23,000. AND I DON'T   THINK WE ARE GOING THE   DIRECTION OF MAKING   ORGANIZATIONS FIGHT EACH OTHER  FOR IF IT IS NOT HOMELESS, NOT  HERE. THE OTHER THING IS  --   WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS WE   JEOPARDIZE. THEORETICALLY,   PEOPLE WILL GET THEIR FUNDING   BACK. WITH THEIR DOORS STAY   OPEN UNTIL THEN. WE HAVE MADE   SOME PROGRESS. WHY WOULD WE  JEOPARDIZE THE PROGRESS WE'VE  MADE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND RUSH  IT OVER $23,000? THE REASON I   KEEP HARPING ON THAT IS THAT I  LIKE THE MOTION. WHAT I   WOULD'VE ARGUED FOR IS SOME   SPECIFICITY IN THE SENSE OF IT  WERE GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN,   SHUT IT DOWN. PERSONALLY,  IF   WE KEEP DEFERRING, WE HAD MORE  UNCERTAINTY. WHAT I WANT US TO  THINK ABOUT ARE THE CATEGORIES  WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING   OUT ALLOWED TO HAVE A ONE YEAR  CHP CYCLE. NORMAL RULES, NO  CHANGES . AND INSTEAD OF TWO   YEARS FOR THOSE CATEGORIES, IT  IS ONE YEAR WHICH IS ONLY   IMPACTING US BY $23,000.   >> ANY CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO  MAKE TO THE PROCESS BE BROUGHT  TO THE BOARD BY SEPTEMBER SO WE CAN GIVE CERTAINTY ON CHANGES   SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF WHEN   CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. I KNOW IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. MY GOAL IS TO FIND A COMPROMISE THAT GETS  WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITHOUT   RISKING SERVICES THIS YEAR OVER A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF   MONEY AND ALLOWS US TO GET  WHERE WE ARE GOING. I WANT TO   LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND SEE WHERE WE  END UP INTENDING ANYTHING. THE  KEYS I WOULD LIKE TO ARGUE IS   GIVE CATEGORIES ONE YEAR AS IS. SET ANY CHANGES FOR THE FUTURE  TO BE DONE BY FAULT FOR NEXT   YEAR. THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE .  COMMISSIONER MADDOX ?   >> MADAM CHAIR, MADAM ATTORNEY, DO I HAVE A CONFLICT?   >> OH, I'M SORRY.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.  >> YOU PREVIOUSLY -- WHEN THIS  AGENDA ITEM CAME UP, WERE  ACCUSED FOR THE APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT GIVING YOUR   EMPLOYMENT.   >> YES, MA'AM. SAY NO MORE. I  REFUSE MYSELF GIVEN MY   EMPLOYMENT WITH . THANK YOU,   MADAM CHAIR.  >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   MADDOX. LET ME WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE, RECOGNIZING THAT I AM  ALSO ON THE BOARD OF THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL.  FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THINK ALL OF THE DIRECTORS   OF AGENCIES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE VARIOUS ENTITIES THAT   PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR   CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. THE  SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE ALL  PROVIDED OVER THE YEARS OUR   INVALUABLE AND I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY LAPSE IN THOSE   SERVICES. WHO WILL ULTIMATELY   SUFFER WILL BE OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FAMILIES. I APPRECIATE YOU  ALL COMING, SPEAKING TO THE   COMMISSION TODAY. I APPRECIATE  THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE   CITY AND THE CHILDREN SERVICES  COUNCIL. ALL THE WORK THAT YOU  HAVE ALL DONE TO THIS POINT. I  THINK EVEN GIVEN THAT WITH ALL  THE WORK AND ANALYSIS THAT HAS  BEEN DONE, THERE IS A LOT OF   UNCERTAINTY. THAT UNCERTAINTY   GOES ACROSS SERVICE PROVIDER  LINES. I THINK IT WOULD IMPACT  OUR CHILDREN. I APPRECIATE THE  SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT MET WITH US IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY TO   DISCUSS THE IMPACT THAT   CHANGING IN THE FUNDING  WOULD  HAVE ON THE PROGRAMS AND THAT  IMPACT WOULD HAVE A RIPPLE  EFFECT TO THE POINT WHERE ONE   AGENCY DIRECTOR TOLD ME IF WE  LOSE FUNDING, WE LOSE  POSITIONS. IF WE LOSE   PHYSICIANS, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SERVICE FAMILIES WITH   CHILDREN. THE PARENTS LOSE   THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT HAVE SUBSIDY FOR DAY CARE IF.   IF THE PARENTS LOSE THEIR JOBS, THEN THEY CANNOT PAY THEIR  RENT, CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THE   FAMILIES. THE ONE THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FREE UP MONEY FOR TO ADDRESS HOMELESS ISSUES AND  OTHER ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY,  WE COULD BE CREATING,   INCREASING THE HOMELESS   POPULATION FROM THE RIPPLE  EFFECT. I WAS IMPRESSED . WE   LEVERAGE ABOUT THE DRAWDOWN.   ANOTHER SPEAKER INDICATED, YOU  KNOW. WE DO NOT GET VERY MUCH   FROM CHSP PROCESS BUT WE USE   THAT THE DRAWDOWN CLOSE TO A   HALF $1 MILLION. I THINK THAT   IS COMMENDABLE, REMARKABLE.  WHEN I TALKED ABOUT UNCERTAINTY , I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY OF   THESE ENTITIES LOSE FUNDING   BECAUSE NOT ONLY WITH A LIST   THE AMOUNT THEY GET FROM CHSP,  BUT THEY WOULD LOSE THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE THAT MONEY AND   DRAWDOWN FROM FEDERAL SOURCES   AND OTHER GRANT SOURCES AS   WELL. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO  SLOWING THIS DOWN. THIS IS   DRASTIC. BUT THOSE 22   CATEGORIES, WE HAVE SO MANY  MORE ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE   DIRECT SERVICES TO OUR CHILDREN AND THE IMPACT IS GREAT WITHOUT MORE CERTAINTY. I THINK WE NEED MORE CERTAINTY. OUR SERVICE   PROVIDERS NEED TO KNOW THAT IF  THE CHSP PROCESS IS GOING TO BE CHANGED AND THEY ARE GOING TO   BE REQUIRED FOR THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL, I THINK THEY  NEED SOME CERTAINTY ABOUT   WHETHER OR NOT THE CRITERIA   THAT THE CHILDREN SERVICES   COUNCIL WILL BE APPLYING IS THE CRITERIA THEY CAN ADDRESS.    BEING A MEMBER OF THE CHILDREN  SERVICES COUNCIL, I CAN TELL  YOU  -- HISTORICALLY, THAT WILL ME HAVE HAD REQUEST FOR   PROPOSAL, THE INVITATION TO .   PROBABLY MORE THAN 50% OF THE  APPLICANTS ARE NOT FUNDED. I   CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU WITH  THE PROCESS THAT WE UTILIZE   RIGHT NOW, SERVICE PROVIDERS   FOR FUNDING -- IT IS VERY   LIKELY MORE THAN 50% WOULD NOT  RECEIVE FUNDING WHICH IMPLORES  ME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD  HAPPEN TO THOSE ENTITIES THAT   ARE PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES   FOR FAMILIES? WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT ON THEM? WE TALK ABOUT  CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. I THINK  WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE   ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES. THEY WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO LAY  OFF SOME OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AS  WELL. I THINK THE IMPACT IS A   LOT GREATER THAN WHAT WE CAN  IMAGINE. I THINK AS REALITY, IT COULD HAPPEN WITHOUT SOME TYPE  OF CERTAINTY. I RECOGNIZE THAT  WERE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE FUNDS  SO WE CAN ADDRESS OTHER AREAS  BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LOT MORE DELIBERATE ABOUT  NUMBER   ONE, THE IMPACT AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL SIDE? ONCE THOSE AGENCIES ARE TOLD  AFTER THIS TWO YEAR TRANSITION, YOU GOT TO GET FUNDING FROM THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL.    WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS,   NUMBER ONE, THIS GROUP THAT   REPRESENTS THE CITY, THE   COUNTY, AND THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL CONTINUE TO   COLLABORATE, MEET. LET AGENCIES KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE THEY ARE THRUST TO THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL.  I BELIEVE   THIS WHOLE PROCESS CAME ABOUT   BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING   MECHANISM. I AGREE, THE  CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL DOES  RECEIVE FUNDING DIRECTLY FROM   TAXPAYERS. IT IS A GREATER PART OF MONEY THEN THE COUNTY  APPROPRIATES.  I DON'T HAVE A  PROBLEM WITH THAT. MY PROBLEM   IS ONCE IT GETS THERE, . I  WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO WORK AND COME OUT   WITH A PROPOSAL TO MEET  SUBMITTED TO THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL TO AGREE OR   DISAGREE. ALSO, KEEP IN MIND   THAT WE HAVE VACANCIES.    APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR. WE  HAVE A MEMBER FROM SCHOOL   BOARD, THIS BOARD.  APPOINTEES  FROM THE COURT SYSTEM.    STRONG-MINDED. WE HAVE OUR OWN  OPINIONS.  YOU ALL CAN COME UP  WITH A PROPOSAL, LOADED TO THE  CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. ONCE WE HAVE A FULL BOARD, I THINK  TONIGHT, HOPEFULLY, WE WILL BE  SENDING SOME NAMES TO THE   GOVERNOR. I THINK WE CAN TAKE   THIS YEAR TO TAKE OUR TIME,   SLOWING DOWN, AND MAKE SURE  NONE OF THESE PROVIDERS FALL   THROUGH THE CRACKS. THE CHSP   PROCESS, YOU PRESENTED TO US A  COUPLE SESSIONS AGO. I BELIEVE  YOU ARE CREATED FOR SEEING IF   THE NEEDLES ARE BEING MOVED BY  THE SERVICE PROVIDERS. WE CAN  TAKE THOSE MTRICS .  I DON'T  SEE WHY, DEPENDING ON LEGAL   ANALYSIS AND WE HAVE OUR OWN   LEGAL COUNSEL AT THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL. I DON'T SEE  WHY THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT   ARE ALLOCATED DOWN FOR THESE   CATEGORIES THAT ARE BEING  RECOMMENDED TO BE TAKEN AWAY -- I DO NOT SEE WHY THE COUNCIL   COULD NOT CARVE OUT THOSE SAME  AMOUNT OF FUNDS, UTILIZE A   PROCESS THAT IS NOT BROKEN FOR  ANALYSIS WITH THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL   MIGHT REQUIRE SOME ENHANCEMENT  ON THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING  PROVIDED. I KNOW THE SERVICE   PROVIDERS CAN DO THAT. THEY CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. THEY   CAN SHOW THAT WITH CSC FUNDS,   THERE IS ENHANCEMENT TO WHAT   THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY   PROVIDED TO OUR CHILDREN AND   OUR FAMILIES. MY POINT IS THAT  IF THE PROCESS IS NOT BROKEN,  WHY NOT TAKE IT TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES -- WHY REINVENT THE   WHEEL? IS THIS LEGALLY   POSSIBLE? AND LET'S SAY,  HYPOTHETICALLY, WE ARE LOOKING  AT 1,000,000 1/2. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE TOTAL FUNDING CYCLE   WOULD BE. IF THE COUNCIL IS   RECEIVING BETWEEN EIGHT AND $9  MILLION, WHY CAN'T WE CARVE   OUT 1,000,000 1/2 OF THESE   ENTITIES PREVIOUSLY SERVICE BY  CHSP . CARVE IT OUT. THAT  LEAVES 6-7 MILLION, 5-6 MILLION TO THE CHILDREN SERVICES  COUNCIL TO CONTINUE OUR MANDATE AND WE RECENTLY DECIDED WAS TO  FOCUS ON EARLY LEARNING. TO   FOCUS ON SCHOOL READINESS SO   OUR THIRD GRADE STUDENTS CAN   PASS THE TEST. THERE ARE   CERTAIN AREAS, CERTAIN Z.I.P.  CODES IN THE COUNTY.  IN THOSE  CERTAIN AREAS, IT IS A DRASTIC  DISTANCE. WE AGREE TO FOCUS IN  ON THOSE AREAS. THAT WOULD  LEAVE ENOUGH FUNDS FOR THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL TO   DIRECT SPECIFIC FUNDING ON   SCHOOL READINESS.   >> OKAY. AND I GUESS MY POINT   IS WHY REINVENT? EVEN THOUGH IT IS A DIFFERENT AGENCY, WE COULD IMPLORE THE SAME PROCESS. THE   SAME TYPE OF COMMITTEE. WE   COULD HAVE GO THROUGH THE SAME  STRUCTURE. BUT AS A MEMBER OF   THIS BOARD AND THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL, DO NOT WANT   TO CHANCE IT ON ANY OF THESE   ENTITIES BOOTING LOSING FUNDING BECAUSE THE ABILITY FOR   LEVERAGE IS TAKEN AWAY.  IN MY  OPINION, WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY.   >> SO I GUESS TO PIGGYBACK   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE AND   COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, I WOULD  LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE. BRING BROUGHT UP A PROPOSAL. I  WANT TO KNOW WHEN THIS GOES TO  THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL.  I WANT TO KNOW THAT THESE OTHER AGENCIES THAT DIVIDE SERVICES,  I WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE  GOING TO BE TREATED FAIRLY,   THEY'RE GOING TO BE TREATED  WITH THE PROCESS . I WANT TO   MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES TO  OUR CHILDREN CONTINUES. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. SERVICES  FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. I  THINK IF WE DON'T TAKE IT TO   THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION, IT'S   TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY. IT'S TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW.    >> AND I AM NOT MAKING A   MOTION, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT FOR CONSIDERATION. I WOULD  HELP, COMMISSIONERS, YOU COULD  GIVE ME SOME DIFFERENCE ON THE  CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. AND  IF THE PROPOSAL IS TAKEN TO THE COUNCIL, WE COULD TWEAK IT IF   IT FALLS WITHIN THE EMILY OF   THE LAW THAT WAS PASSED. AT   THIS POINT, I'M NOT READY TO   STAMP IT. THERE'S TWO. ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE  SERVICES TO OUR CHILDREN.   COMMISSIONER WELCH.  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THAT WAS A REALLY WELL SAID, VERY  COMPELLING.  AS PARTICULARLY TO OFFER A SUGGESTION WHICH REALLY CHALLENGES MY COMMENTS ON THIS. I AM REALLY PREPARED TO BE THE  CONTRARIAN  AND HERE IS WHY.   NUMBER ONE, BUT WE ARE DOING IS IN GOOD FAITH. IF YOU LOOK AT   IT FROM A BIG PICTURE   PERSPECTIVE, THIS COMMUNITY HAS VOTED TO SPECIFIC PART OF   MONEY. TARGETED SPECIFICALLY  WITH THESE ISSUES AND WE ARE   TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT IN HOW  WE  ARE DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO CHILDREN  SERVICES. ALSO, OTHER NEEDS  THAT WE HAVE. I GET THE   UNCERTAINTY BUT I FEEL LIKE WE  ARE DELAYING THE INEVITABLE. AT SOME POINT, WE ARE GOING TO  HAVE TO TRANSITION THE CHILDREN SERVICES PROVIDED  THROUGH CHSP TO THE CSC BECAUSE IT IS MY   UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A   SIGNIFICANT APPLICATION PROBLEM AND  THE CSC FUNDS CANNOT BE   DUPLICATED IN OTHER WAYS. I   KNOW THERE ARE WATCHDOGS OUT   THERE, PEOPLE WHO ARE CHOMPING  AT THE BIT TO FIND THAT  DUPLICATION. WHICH THREATENS   THE FUNDING.  >> WHETHER THAT DUPLICATION IS  COMING , THERE'S GOING TO BE   DUPLICATIONS. AT SOME POINT,   WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS.   I WAS GOING TO SAY I CANNOT  VOTE FOR THIS MOTION. ARE WE ON OPTION TWO? HAS THERE BEEN A   MOTION MADE? WAS IT FOR OPTION  TWO?   >> I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE A   MOTION.   >> IT WAS FOR OPTION TWO. THAT  IS THE DO NOT AUTHORIZE. I  REALLY AM LEANING TOWARDS   OPTION ONE AND LIKE RIPPING THE BAND-AID OFF, SO TO SPEAK. WE  ARE JUST DOING IT SLOWLY.  COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE'S CONCERNS EARLIER. I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS. THIS IS WHERE I WILL NEED SOME HELP  FROM STAFF. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE   EXTENDING FOR A YEAR. WE ARE   NOT GIVING RUNWAY FOR A YEAR?  >> WE HAVE NOT ACCEPTED   ANYTHING.   >> HOLD ON.   >> OPTION ONE DOES NOT  ACCOMPLISH A LITTLE BIT OF  GRACE FOR A YEAR? MY   UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT OPTION  ONE PROVIDED A YEAR OF GRACE.   >> YES, IT DOES GIVE A YEAR FOR THOSE AGENCIES THAT WOULD NOT   BE ELIGIBLE FOR COUNCIL FUNDING TO APPLY THROUGH CHSP. THAT   APPLICATION IS HAPPENING NOW,   RIGHT?   >> HYPOTHETICALLY, ALL THE  PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING THIS   FUNDING EXPECTING THIS FUNDING, ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR IT   THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS.   THEY WILL PROBABLY GET AWARDED  HE MONEY AND THEY HAVE   TO TRY AND TRANSITION, WHERE IF THEY DON'T GET THE FUNDING, WE WILL KEEP THEM ON ANOTHER YEAR. AT THAT POINT, THEN WE WILL   HAVE SOME RUBBER MEETING ROAD.  THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I   FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME   CONFUSION. BECAUSE  HE IS   SHAKING HIS HEAD AND HE IS  NODDING HIS HEAD. I WANT TO  MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANYBODY  WITHOUT PARACHUTE. I THINK THE  PROBLEM IS WE ARE FALLING. THE  PARACHUTE HAS BEEN CAREFULLY   PACKED AND EVERYBODY IS SCARED  TO PULL THE STRING. AT SOME   POINT, THE GROUND IS   APPROACHING AND THAT IS THE WAY I THINK ABOUT THIS. I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD BE BEST SERVED MOVING  ON DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK IT'S BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR AMONGST   COMMISSIONERS, OUR STAFF, AND   EVERY STAKEHOLDER THAT WE DO   NOT WANT ANYBODY FALLING  THROUGH THE CRACKS. WE DON'T   WANT ANYBODY LOSING FUNDING.   MATCHES DRAWING DOWN. THAT IS   MY CONCERN. I SAY ALL THAT TO   SAY, AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO   CRAFT THIS. TO CRAFT A MOTION  TO THE EFFECT OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR. I WOULD DO THAT OUT OF   DIFFERENCE FOR YOU, MADAM   CHAIR. IF WE WOULD CRAFT A  MOTION THAT EFFECTIVELY SAYS   WHAT CHAIR CUMMINGS HAS   SUGGESTED WHICH IS GIVE STAFF  DIRECTION TO FIND A WAY TO   REALLY AND TRULY TRANSITION THE CHSP FUNDING . IF IT'S  POSSIBLE, THERE ARE SOME   SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT   WHETHER IT IS STATUTORILY  POSSIBLE TO DO THAT. I DON'T   KNOW. OTHER THAN A CLEARLY LINE EMOTION AND TO THAT EFFECT OF   WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, I'M   GOING TO HAVE TO NOT SUPPORT   OPTION TWO ON THE TABLE.  >> ON THIS CLARIFICATION,   COMMISSIONER WELCH , SINCE WE   MET THE LAST TIME. OUR GENERAL  COUNSEL FOR THE CHILDREN  SERVICES COUNCIL DID RUN A   LEGAL OPINION. HIS OPINION WAS  TO THE EXTENT THAT IF THE   COUNTY WITHDREW FUNDING TO THE  CHSP PROCESS WITH THE CITY, IF  THAT FUNDING IS WITHDRAWN AND   WE KNOW AS THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR IS INDICATING,  THAT IS A POLICY DECISION FROM  THIS COUNTY. BUT IF WE WITHDRAW THE FUNDING, IT IS LEGAL FOR   THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL   TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO THOSE   AGENCIES THAT NO LONGER RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE CHSP PROCESS.  MY QUESTION IS THAT WE MIGHT   NEED A LEGAL OPINION ABOUT IT   FROM OUR GENERAL COUNSEL IS   WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN CARVE OUT FROM THE $89 MILLION THAT THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL   RECEIVES IN A YEAR, IF WE CAN   CARVE OUT THE SAME DOLLAR   AMOUNT THAT WE ARE TALKING   ABOUT TAKING FROM THE CHSP   PROCESS AND PLACE IT ONTO THE  CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL AND   UTILIZE THAT SIMILAR PROCESS   THAT THE CHSP PROCESS DOES TO   EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS AND   DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF   FUNDING. THAT IS WHAT I'M  SAYING WILL PROBABLY NEED A  LEGAL TO LOOK AT. IF WE DID IT  THAT WAY, WE STILL LEAVE ENOUGH MONEY WITH THE COUNCIL TO FOCUS ON THE AREAS THAT WE WANT TO   FOCUS ON.   >> MA'AM --    >> ONE SECOND.   >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX, I WILL  BE QUICK. I AM SORRY. MADAM   CHAIR, WHAT DO YOU THINK --   WAIT A MINUTE.   >> I'M SORRY.   >> THAT'S OKAY. WHAT DO YOU  THINK MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO DO  ACCOMPLISH THAT? DELAY? A VOTE  ON NUMBER TWO AND NOT DO THIS?  WE NEED TO GET SOME POLICY  DIRECTION TO THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR. I WANT TO MAKE  SURE WE ARE IN THE RIGHT   POSTURE TO DO THAT. I AM  WILLING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE   MOTION TO ASK OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CSC. ALL THE   STAKEHOLDERS GET A LEGAL  OPINION ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THIS  CONVERSATION IN NOVEMBER AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT FAR.   >> I DO NOT THINK GETTING A   LEGAL OPINION SHOULD BE PART OF THE MOTION. I THINK IF WE NEED  A LEGAL OPINION, THE COUNCIL   CAN RECEIVE THAT WITHOUT   EMOTION.   >> ABSOLUTELY.  >> THAT STILL BEGS THE QUESTION HOW DO WE PROCEED WITH THIS   AGENDA ITEM IF WE HAVE A BOARD  DIRECTION? AGAIN, I AM NOT   REALLY WANTING TO DO THE NUMBER TWO.  >> LET ME SAY THIS. VICE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A   MOTION THAT THE COMMITTEE   CONTINUES TO WORK BUT WORK  SPECIFICALLY  ON THE PROCESS   THAT THE CHILDREN SERVICES   COUNCIL WOULD UTILIZE TO   SERVICE THESE ENTITIES THAT   WILL NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE FOR  FUNDING. OKAY? INCLUDING THE   SPECIFICS. WHETHER OR NOT THE   FUNDING CAN BE CARVED OUT OF  THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL   WITH THESE ENTITIES THAT ARE   PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES. THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO SHOW   ENHANCEMENT PURSUANT TO THE  STATUTE. WHETHER OR NOT WE   COULD UTILIZE THE SAME PROCESS  WITH THE CHILDREN SERVICES   COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD LEAVE  SEVERAL MILLION TO ADDRESS THE  ISSUES THAT WE, ON THE COUNCIL, HAVE INDICATED VERY IMPORTANT   TO US IN LEON COUNTY.    >>  MADAM COUNTY ATTORNEY,    THEY HAVE A STAFF, ATTORNEY,   TAXING AUTHORITY. CAN THE   COUNTY UTILIZE SHINGLETON ? IS  IT ON INITIATIVE AND STAFF AND  THE LAWYER THAT COMES UP WITH   THAT PROCESS TO ACHIEVE HOW  % THEY WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE  CHSP?  SHOULD MY EMPLOYEE DO   THAT OR SHOULD CHILDREN   SERVICES EMPLOYEE DO THAT?  >> IT COULD BE EITHER ONE. THE  BOARD COULD DIRECT COUNTY STAFF TO COLLABORATE AND WORK WITH  STAFF TO DEVELOP A PROPOSAL TO  TAKE TO THE CSC OR THE CSC   BOARD WOULD HAVE TO DIRECT ITS  STAFF TO UNDERTAKE THAT WORK.  THAT IS SOMETHING THE CSC BOARD WOULD HAVE TO DO.   >> WE CANNOT CONTROL ANYTHING  WITH THE BOARD?  >> RIGHT. OR THEIR STAFF.   >> AND MAY I SAY, COMMISSIONER  PROCTOR AND MADAM ATTORNEY, WE  GOT A MEMORANDUM OF   UNDERSTANDING THAT INCLUDES THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND THE CSC.  WE HAVE AGREED TO WORK TOGETHER ON FUNDING. THE WAY I SEE IT IS ONGOING. PART OF THEM   MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. I  DON'T THINK THE COMMITTEE WILL BE DIRECTING THE COUNCIL  THROUGH ANYTHING ANYMORE THAN   THE COMMITTEE'S COMING BEFORE  US TONIGHT. I THINK WE CAN'T   JUST DO PART AND THROW IT AND  NOT MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A LOT  OF CONCLUSION FOR THE PROCESS.  THAT COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF   THE CSC IN THE COUNTY. OKAY? I  THINK THOSE ENTITIES COULD COME TOGETHER WITH A PROPOSAL. I   DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT. IT IS NOT FAIR FOR OUR SERVICE  PROVIDERS TO BE UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE FUTURE, UNCERTAIN ABOUT WHO THEY'RE GOING TO SERVICE. EVEN UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES.    >> OKAY.   >> I WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN. I  LOVE WHAT YOU SAID. SOME ISSUES TO ADDRESS AND YOU SEE NOT WITH YOUR EYES BUT YOU SEE WITH YOUR HEART. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE   ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE TUGGED ON  OUR HEARTSTRINGS. YOUR PASSION. THIS IS A HEART ISSUE IN PART   AS MUCH OF A HEAD ISSUE. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE PILOT PROJECT.  THERE IS NO GAMBLE  SO THAT   THERE IS NO RISK AND NO GAMBLE  . AND IN THAT WAY, THERE IS NO  GAMBLE. I LIKE THAT. THE   FLIPSIDE OF THAT IS THE CSC HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE ALL THE   DEBT OF THE CURRENT CSC.  THEY  HAVE SPENDING ON THE CREDIT  CARD.  GUARANTEES NO LOSS, NO  GAMBLE.  WHAT THE INCREASE  LOOKS LIKE IF IT WERE ABLE TO   ACCOMMODATE. WHEN WE PULL THE  PLUG ON FUNDING, THE CITY PULLS THE PLUG. THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT DOUBLE DIPPING. THE TAXPAYERS   ARE PAYING FOR, CONTINUING TO.  BE BUT EVERYBODY ON THE IF WE  CAN GET THE CHILDREN'S COUNSEL BOARD TO LOOK AT THAT NUMBER   WILL BE. WE PULL THE PLUG BUT  EVERYBODY REMAINS SAFE.  >> S, COMMISSIONER MADDOX?  >> AM I ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE  IN DISCUSSION?    >> THE PROHIBITION AGAINST   ENGAGING AND DISCUSSING   PROHIBITS DISCUSSION WHEN YOU   ARE AN APPOINTED OFFICIAL. THE  GENERAL RULE IS EVEN IF AN   ELECTORAL OFFICIAL ACCUSES,  VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES CAN ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION. YES, YOU  CAN ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION ON   THIS MATTER IF YOU CHOOSE TO.  >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH   IN?   >> YES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TRY TO BRING TOGETHER ALL   THE COMMENT TO SEE IF I COULD   HELP COMMISSIONER WELCH WITH   WHAT HE'S TRYING TO GET TO. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT NO ONE  ON THE COMMISSION IS REALLY   COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THINGS SIT AND UNCERTAINTY OF HOW  THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK. MAY   NOT BE FUNDED. EVEN THOUGH WE   HAVE THAT PILE OF MONEY IN THIS NEW PROPOSED BUCKET. THE   QUESTION IS, AND MADAM CHAIR, I THINK YOU ARTICULATED WELL. I  THINK THE QUESTION IS MORE OF   -- WE WANT TO WORK THROUGH THIS THING IN A WAY THAT AT THE END, DOES MORE CERTAINTY FOR THE   GOVERNMENTS INVOLVED AS WELL AS WHAT ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED.    MADAM CHAIR, YOU TALKED ABOUT  THE COUNTY, THE CITY, AND THE   CSC WORKING TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT EVERYBODY   UNDERSTANDS FIRST. IS THAT   WHERE YOU WERE ON THAT?   >> ABSOLUTELY. I'M CONCERNED   ABOUT.   >> THEY WILL BE. I THINK NOW  SINCE EVERYBODY IS ON THAT   PAGE, I THINK EVEN COMMISSIONER WELCH, SOME KIND OF HESITANCY   BECAUSE HE WANTS THE CERTAINTY  TOO. I THINK THE QUESTION IS   NOT WHERE WE ARE GOING BUT HOW  LONG ARE WE GOING AGAINST   STAFFING ORGANIZATIONS TO GET   THERE? ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE SAME CYCLE FOR THE   NEXT TWO YEARS? AND IN THAT   SPAN OF TIME, REQUIRE THAT THE  GOVERNMENTS WORK TOGETHER TO    COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT   ACCOMMODATES SOMETHING THAT  EVERYBODY IS CULPABLE WITH? OR  ARE WE GOING TO GIVE IT SIX  MONTHS? A YEAR? THE THING WE   HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT'S   GOING TO HAPPEN? WHAT IS THE   THRESHOLD BETWEEN RIGHT NOW AND THE NEW CHSP CYCLE? THAT IS   WHAT THE ORGANIZATIONS WHO   SPOKE TODAY ARE CONCERNED   ABOUT. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IF A CYCLE HAPPENS, AND MY   GOING TO BE ABLE TO APPLY  FOR  MONEY. AND IF I DON'T APPLY,   IF I AM NOT ABLE TO APPLY AND I APPLIED TO THE CSC, I NEED A   CERTAIN WAY TO KNOW THAT ALL  THE CHILDREN THAT I'M SERVING  ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE   SERVED IN ALL THE STAFF ARE   GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITH   ME. COMMISSIONER WELCH, I THINK IT IS EITHER WE KEEP THE SAME   TWO YEAR CYCLE BUT WITHIN THE   TIMING, WE GET STAFF TO WORK   TOGETHER TO BRING BACK PROCESS  WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS THAT  WE CAN AGREE UPON THAT MAKES   EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE . WELL, I WILL NOT SAY EVERYBODY. BUT ME, TOO, SAY NO MATTER HOW WE DRAW  THIS, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO END  UP UNCOMFORTABLE. THERE IS NO  WAY WE GET OUT OF THIS AND   EVERYBODY IS IN TROUBLE. IT'S  GOING TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE   BECAUSE IT IS CHANGE. WE CAN   CREATE SOMETHING TO WHERE AT   LEAST THERE IS SOME CERTAINTY   THAT AT LEAST THE BOARD MEMBERS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE CERTAIN AS  TO HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK OUT IN THE END. RIGHT NOW, I   THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT  THRESHOLD. IF WE WANT TO KEEP   THE SAME CYCLE, I THINK   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE SAID A   ONE YEAR CYCLE? ONE YEAR, TWO  YEARS. WHAT IS THAT LOOK LIKE?  THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY -- LIKE  YOU SAID TALKING ABOUT RIPPING  OFF THE BAND-AID, EVEN THOUGH I THINK WE WANT TO, IT STILL DID  NOT SOUND LIKE, TO ME, THAT   TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH IT   WITHOUT KNOWING ON THE BACK END THAT EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME  PAGE AS TO WHAT IS GOING TO   HAPPEN TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS   THAT DO NOT APPLY IS GOING TO   LOSE FUNDING. I WANTED TO SEE   IF I WAS AT LEAST BRINGING THAT ALTOGETHER TO SEE IF WE COULD   GET TO A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY  IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY   THAT WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VOTE. I THINK WE ALL  WANT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.  >> THINK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. MR.  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, YOU HAVE  A COMMENT ON THIS?   >> MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TECHNICAL NATURE OF THE  MOTION THAT YOU ARTICULATED.   THE VALUE STATEMENT.  AND   AGAIN, AS WE SAID AT THE  BEGINNING, AS I SAID AT THE  VERY BEGINNING, THIS IS JUST AN OPTION FOR THE BOARD. WE CAN   DECIDE WHETHER TO TAKE IT, NOT  TO TAKE IT, WHEN TO TAKE IT.   ANY OF THAT DIRECTION WORKS FOR US. WITH RESPECT TO THE MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE FOR US  AS   COUNTY STAFF WOULD GIVE THE   DIRECTION TO WORK WITH OUR   PARTNERS AT THE CSC AND THE   CITY OF TALLAHASSEE TO GO TO   THE CSC AND PROPOSE TO THEM TO  BASICALLY REPLICATE OUR PROCESS FOR THOSE AGENCIES. WE CAN DO   THAT. THE BOARD IN THE CSC   CONNECT ON THAT AND THE NEXT   ONE. WE LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF  HOW WE DETERMINE THE TIMING OF  THAT. AGAIN, THE CSC COULD  DECIDE THEY WANTED TO DO IT NOW OR IF THE CSC SAYS WE DON'T   CONTROL THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO   TAKE THAT DECISION, IT COULD BE THAT WE DRIFT INTO THE NEXT   CYCLE, IN WHICH CASE, WE COULD  ACT ON IT THEN. TECHNICALLY, I  UNDERSTAND EMOTION AND   CERTAINLY, COULD GIVE US THE   DIRECTION OF THAT WAS TO   PROPOSE SUCH A THING.   >> THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WE   KEEP HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE COUNCIL  AND THEY ARE  IN THE ROOM. THE EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR IS JUST SITTING OVER   THERE. WOULD IT BE OKAY --   >> KNOW. I DO NOT THINK THAT   WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS  TIME.  >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BOARD.  THE PROPOSAL WILL TAKE BOARD   ACTION.   >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON THE SPOT.   >> OKAY.  >> I THINK SHE WANTS TO SPEAK.  >> KNOW.   >> OKAY.  >> KNOW. THANK YOU.   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE? DID I   SEE YOUR HAND?  >> COMMISSIONER WELCH?   >> GO AHEAD.   >> I WAS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR. FOR BOARD  DIRECTION TO DO WHAT HE SAID.  ASK OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH ALL  EXPECTS TO DEVELOP A TRANSITION OF FUNDING OVER TO CSC AND LET  THE CSC TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT  OVER THE NEXT CHSP CYCLE OF TWO YEARS.  >> I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO DO  A TIME LIMIT TO ALLOW THEM TO  ACCEPT IT OR NOT.   >> THEN THAT WOULD BE THE   MOTION TO DIRECT OUR STAFF TO   WORK WITH THE CITY AND   OBVIOUSLY, REPRESENTING THE   COUNTY TO FIND A WAY TO   TRANSITION THE CHSP OVER TO THE CSC IN TERMS OF CHILDREN   SERVICES   >> AND BRING IT BACK .   >> MADAM CHAIR, I WITHDRAW MY  MOTION AND I AGREE TO SUPPORT.  >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A   SECOND?  >> THINK THANK YOU.   >> MADAM CHAIR --   >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND.  >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. TO   BE SURE, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT   WE'VE DONE. AGAIN, IF THE   ISSUE WAS TO TAKE YOUR PROPOSAL AND ASK THE CSC TO REPLICATE   OUR PROCESS, AGAIN, WHAT I   HEARD WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE  AGENCIES HAVE -- ALL I AM   SUGGESTING IS THAT IT IS A   LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION BUT   YOU COULD PROVIDE US, RATHER   THAN JUST SAY TRANSITION THESE  SERVICES, BECAUSE THAT IS   EXACTLY WHAT WE TRIED TO DO BUT IF YOU WANT US TO MAKE A  PROPOSAL TO REPLICATE, WE CAN  DO THAT. I WAS JUST SEEKING A  LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION.    >> TO REPLICATE OUR FUNDING FOR CHSP?  >>  OR ACCEPT ANY OTHER  PROPOSAL. I DO NOT THINK THAT  WE SHOULD BE RELEGATED TO THAT  BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A  GOOD OPTION.   >> OKAY.   >> THANK YOU.   >> IF THERE IS NO TIMETABLE.   >> WE DID NOT ENTERTAIN THE   TIMETABLE. DISCUSSION.  >> THANK YOU. I WILL NOT BE   SUPPORTING THE MOTION.  I AM  NOT COMFORTABLE. I WOULD LIKE  TO MEET WITH THE CHILDREN  SERVICES COUNCIL AND SEE HOW  THIS AFFECTS THEM SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADOPTING OUR  PROCESS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN   PROCESS. THEY ARE THEIR OWN   TAXING AUTHORITY, THEIR OWN   BODY. I DO NOT THINK IT IS OUR  RIGHT OR DUTY TO GIVE THEM   DIRECTION OF WHAT TO DO. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.   >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE OVERALL   PROCESS. WE ARE NOT SAYING GIVE THEM, TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. WE  ARE SAYING PART OF THE M.O. YOU IS ALL THESE AGENCIES TO WORK   TOGETHER ON FUNDING,   PROGRAMMING SO THEY WILL BE   WORKING WITH THE CSC. OF   COURSE, A PROPOSAL WOULD HAVE  TO GO TO THE FULL BODY FOR   ACCEPTANCE OR NOT. IT'S NOT   SAYING TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. IT IS A PUZZLE. IT MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO PROPOSALS ON THE FUNDING   PROCESS BUT IN THE ANALYSIS,   WHAT WE WANT, WHAT I WANT IS   SOME CERTAINTY. SO ARE THESE  AGENCIES THAT ARE BEING TAKEN   AWAY FROM THE PROCESS.   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE?   >> THINK YOU.   >> DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME.   >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX?  >> I WILL COME TO YOU AFTR   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, OKAY?   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I  WANT TO GIVE CERTAINTY FOR THIS APPLICATION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD BE DUE IN   MARCH. THAT IS 60 DAYS AWAY. I  HATE TO KICK THE CAN, TOMORROW  MAKE CLEAR TO THESE   ORGANIZATIONS. I'M GOING TO   OFFER TO SUBSTITUTE EMOTION AND THAT INTEREST AND THEN ZIP IT   AND SEE WHERE IT GOES. I AM   OFFERING TO SUBSTITUTE EMOTION  A MOTION THAT WE KEEP OUR  CATEGORIES THE SAME FOR THIS   CYCLE. THAT WE KEEP ALL THE   CATEGORIES THE SAME FOR THE  CYCLE, NO CHANGE.   >> I THINK THEY WILL BE THE  SAME IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR   CHANGE. THEY ARE GOING TO   REMAIN THE SAME.   >> THIS IS TO BED , THOUGH.  >> IF WE DON'T ACCEPT TONIGHT, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY   CHANGES.  >> CORRECT. THE SUBSTITUTE  MOTION I MAKE IS KEEP THE SAME, DO NOT ACCEPT THIS.   >> DO YOU ACCEPT THAT?    >> YES.  >> FOR CLARIFICATION, THANK   YOU, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE.   AWESOME.  >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX --   >> I HAD THE SAME QUESTION  COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE SAID. I   DID HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.  IS THAT FOR ANOTHER TWO YOUR   CYCLE? THAT IS THE QUESTION I   HAVE. THE APPLICATION IS COMING UP IN MARCH, IS IT NOT?   >> ABSOLUTELY.  >> OKAY. BASICALLY, WE WANT TO  KEEP CHSP THE SAME FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND IN THE MEANTIME,  STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY  TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH   SOMETHING THAT NOBODY CAN GO   EVERY AGREE UPON. AT THAT   POINT, THE TRANSITION THEN,   MADAM CHAIR?   >> ACTUALLY. THAT IS MY   UNDERSTANDING.   >> THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU.    >> MADAM ATTORNEY, I HAD A   QUESTION. IS THERE SOME KIND OF MANDATE THAT WE ARE UNDER TO   TRANSITION CHSP UNDER THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL? IS   THERE SOME STATES THAT SHE? IS  THERE A LEGAL MANDATE THAT WE  DO SOMETHING?   >> NO.   >> WE HAVE NO COUNTY ORDINANCE  THAT MAKES US TAKE CHSP AND   SUCCUMB TO CSC?   >> NO.  >> WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A   TIMETABLE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, OURSELVES, HAVE FOSTERED   THAT TWO YEARS, ONE YEAR, RIGHT NOW IS SELF GENERATED FROM   OURSELVES. IS THAT WHAT WE ARE  --   >> YES.   >> OKAY. SO IF WE DON'T DO  ANYTHING AT ALL, WE WOULD NOT   VIOLATE ORDINANCE? WE WOULD NOT VIOLATE A STATE STATUE AND WE  WOULD NOT VIOLATE THE COUNTIES  M.O. YOU?   >> NO.   >> OKAY.  >> THE RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS  NO TIMELINE IS NOT CONSTRICTED  TO TWO OR THREE, NOR FOUR.   LOOKING AT THE MEMORANDUM OF   UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU   REFERENCED, MADAM CHAIR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS MISSING OF   WHICH COMMISSIONER WAS   RIGHTFULLY NEEDING AND WANTING  TO HEAR. WE HAVE NO LETTER, NO  ACTION FROM THE CSC BOARD   STATING THEIR READINESS,   WILLINGNESS, OR THEIR   CAPABILITY OF DOING THE WORK OF WHICH THE CITY IS.  SEEING  SOMETHING IN WRITING, GOT M.O.  YOU  MOU  THERE. IT SEEMS LIKE  FROM THE WORDING, WERE GOING TO MAKE A PACK MULE. ONE OF THE   THINGS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT  THE AUDIT AND THE RECORDS   RETENTION, THIS MOU REQUIRES TO PERMIT  PERSONS DULY AUTHORIZED TO HAVE FULL ACCESS AND THE   RIGHT TO EXAMINE ANY OF THE   RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS RELATED  TO THIS M.O. YOU. REGARDLESS OF THE FORM , THERE IS NO DOUBT   THAT WE REVIEW AND THERE IS NO  RECIPROCAL COMMENT OF THE CSC   HAVING THE RIGHT TO ACCESS ALL  FORMS OF RECORD-KEEPING, BE IT  YOUR NOTES. WHAT HAVE YOU? AND  I CLEARLY SEE THAT THE NATURE   OF THE AUDITING, THE   RECORD-KEEPING, THE RECORDS  RETENTION , CSC, THIS IS GOING  TO BE A SIGNIFICANT BURDEN AS  WELL AS ALL THE APPLICATIONS.   ALL THE SUITCASES ARE GOING TO  COME UNDER THE RECORD-KEEPING   AND WHERE THEY ARE COMPELLED BY AGREEMENT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO   THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, WE  DEMAND TO SEE THAT. THAT IS NOT A RECIPROCAL TASK THAT THE CSC  HAS FOR OUR AGENCIES.  >>  I LIKE THE POINT. I REALLY  LOVE. I WOULD LOVE IF THE CSC  WOULD TAKE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. IF THEY COULD LOCK INTO THAT   AMOUNT AND COME UP WITH SOME  OTHER MEMORANDUM AND SAY THAT   OUR ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE   TAKEN CARE OF IN THAT WAY, NO   GAMBLE. I LIKE THAT. AS I   ARTICULATED PREVIOUSLY, THE  OTHER ASPECT IS FOR THE CSC TO  STATE AN OPEN AND WILLINGNESS   TO RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE TO   COME UP. YOU THREADED THE  NEEDLE. YOU FOUND THE SOLUTION. WE DESIGNATED AND ASSUMING THE  RESPONSIBILITY FOR CSC OR WE   CAN COMMIT TO RAISING. UNTIL I  HEAR FROM CSC, RIGHT NOW, I'M  NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE REACTED   AT ALL. IT IS DEFINITELY   PREMATURE ON OUR PARTS TO   ASSERT THIS KIND OF BURDEN.   THEY WANT TO LOOK GOOD, PRETTY. BUT THEY ARE TWO YEARS OLD AND  THERE IS MORE STEADINESS THAT   THE ORGANIZATION NEEDS. THOSE   COMMENTS WILL BE SUPPORTED.   >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR. AS THIS IS  REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CHILDREN  SERVICES COUNCIL, DID COME TO   ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND HE   PRESENTED A PROPOSAL. JUST FOR  PRESENTATION, IT WAS NOTHING  THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE UPON. WE   HAVE NOT HAD THIS PRESENTED TO  THE BOARD TO VOTE UPON. I CAN  ASSURE YOU THAT IF A PROPOSAL  IS MADE, IT PASSES THE   SCRUTINY. I THINK THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WOULD BRING BEFORE THE BOARD FOR OUR CONSIDERATION   THAT AT THIS POINT, THIS   PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN REALLY  DISCUSSED.  VOTED UPON BY THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. IF  IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF   THE CHILDREN, I PROMISE WE WILL BECAUSE WE WANT WHAT IS BEST   FOR OUR CHILDREN. HAVING ALL   THE SERVICE PROVIDERS WITH SOME OF THE CSC FUNDING, I BELIEVE   THAT IT WOULD BE NO QUESTION   THAT IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE BY  THE BOARD.   >> ONE MORE COMMENT?  >> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I   WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO   EVERYBODY THAT IT IS A  NEGOTIATION THAT'S GOING TO   HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT TWO YEAR   PERIOD. THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE ALL THEIR OWN SEPARATE   GOVERNMENTS THAT REALLY WORK   OFF OF TAX DOLLARS. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT IN THIS TWO   YEARS, AGREEMENT WOULD BE   REACHED SUFFICES ENOUGH FOR   EVERYONE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE  WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE  TRYING TO MOVE IN. WE MAY GET  THE SAME POINT IN TWO YEARS  THAT WE ARE NOW. I THINK WE   HAVE TO PAIR OURSELVES, AT SOME POINT OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A  HALF OR SO, AS TO WHAT EVEN   THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I   COULD VERY WELL SEE US SITTING  RIGHT HERE HAVING THIS   CONVERSATION. THE CSC SAYING  THEY CANNOT COME UP WITH A WAY. AND HAVING TO FIGURE OUT   ANOTHER TWO YOUR CYCLE. I   DON'T WANT TO BE AN ASSUMPTION THAT AT THE END OF THIS THING,  A NEGOTIATION IS GOING TO   HAPPEN IN THE WAY THAT WORKS   FOR ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS. I   SAID THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS   GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS THING HAPPY. WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OKAY WITH THAT OR WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OKAY WITH DOING THE  SAME THING TODAY THAT WE DID IN TWO YEARS THAT WERE DOING  TODAY.   >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I  BELIEVE WE WANT THE MOTION  RESTATED.    >> ANOTHER COUNTY   ADMINISTRATION --   >> ESSENTIALLY , THE DIRECTION  WAS FOR COUNTY STAFF TO   CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CSC  AND THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE TO  REPLICATE TO THE GREATEST   EXTENT POSSIBLE IN BUILDING AS  MUCH CERTAINTY AS POSSIBLE INTO THE SYSTEM. AFTER THE CURRENT   TWO YOUR CYCLE IS COMPLETED, NO CHANGES FOR THE CURRENT CYCLE.  TO SEE IF WE CAN TRANSITION  AFTER THAT TIME TO EIGHT CSC  PROCESS WHICH DOES THAT. OUR   EXISTING CATEGORICAL FUNDING.   >> THANK YOU.   >> TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY   MOUTH.   >> THANK YOU.   >> THIS MOU . I COULD NOT SEE A DATE OF TERMINATION. THERE IS A REFERENCE TO FIVE YEARS. HOW  LONG DOES THIS MOU SERVE? I DO  NOT EVEN SEE A TERMINATION   POINT.   >> I WILL LET THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR WAY IN. MANY  INSTANCES,    >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR.  >> IT IS ACTUALLY SECTION FOUR. TERM/TERMINATION. THE DATE SET  FOR THE LEVEL OF CONTINUE UNTIL A PARTY IS 30 DAYS WRITTEN TO   INTENT TO TERMINATE. THAT IS   THE TERM.   >> OKAY, THANK YOU.   >> IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN   INCLUDING OTHER ORGANIZATIONS   IN THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE  MAKEUP OF HOW THIS LOOKS IN THE FUTURE?   >> I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR   COMMENT. SAY IT AGAIN, PLEASE?    >> IS THERE ANY INTEREST ON THE BOARD, INCLUDING OPINIONS IN   HOW THIS THING WORKS OUT WITH   NEGOTIATIONS?   >> THEY WILL BE OBLIGATED TO   BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. WE  WILL KNOW.   >> NO, MA'AM. WHEN STAFF IS  HAVING THIS CONVERSATION,   HAVING THEM INCLUDE US.  >> OH, I'M SORRY. INCLUDE IN   THE PROCESS? I THINK ALL OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS. I BELIEVE WE GAVE DIRECTION AT THE LAST   MEETING. WE ASKED A GROUP IF  THEY WOULD CONTACT THOSE   SERVICE PROVIDERS OF OUR   CHILDREN AND I THINK THEY TRIED TO ENGAGE THEM.  SEVEN OR EIGHT MEETINGS WITH THOSE SERVICE   PROVIDERS. I DON'T BELIEVE   THEY WOULD BE EXCLUDED.  >> NOBODY WOULD BE EXCLUDED. .  ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE  FLOOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY   SAYING AYE.    >> AYE.   >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX?   >> I'M SORRY.   >> FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE  ACCUSED MYSELF AS WELL.   >> I VOTE THAT RECUSED HIMSELF. THANK YOU FOR A ROBUST   DISCUSSION. I THINK IT CLEARLY  INDICATES THAT WE ARE ALL  CONCERNED ABOUT HOW CHILDREN.     >> THANK YOU, MATTER CHAIRMAN.  THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, ITEM   NUMBER 28 REQUESTS PUBLIC  HEARING . BOARD APPROVAL TO   CONSIDER ADOPTING PROPOSED  ORDINANCE PER PITTING.   >> THANK YOU. END OF   DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE?   >> I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF. I'M   GOING TO OPPOSE THIS. IN THE   INTEREST OF I DON'T BELIEVE   THAT WE HELP TO THIS PROBLEM BY IMPOSING MORE PENALTIES ON  PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED. THANK   YOU.   >> THINK YOU, COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE. ANY OTHER   DISCUSSIONS?   >> THANK YOU. I TOTALLY   APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS IN   THAT REGARD. I SEE THIS AS   DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR. IT   WOULD REALLY PROVIDE SOME  RELIEF TO OUR BUSINESS   COMMUNITY OF THE BURDEN OF   TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE   TRESPASSING PROCESS IN THE   LEGAL PROCESS OF DOING THOSE  THINGS. IT JUST PROVIDES FOR A  MORE EXPEDITIOUS WAY  FOR THEM  TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESSES. I  DO APPRECIATE YOUR SENSITIVITY  TO IT AND I THINK WE ARE ALL  SENSITIVE AND WANTTO CONTINUE  TO WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS IN  THIS REGARD. THANK YOU.   >> I, TOO, AM SENSITIVE  TO OUR POPULATION. WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT NOT ANALYZING  THE STATUS OF INDIVIDUALS BUT  BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY   DIRECTED TO PRIVATE PROPERTY, I DON'T HAVE A MAJOR CONCERN  WITH IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?  HEARING THEM. ALL THOSE IN   FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY   SAYING I AYE. ANY OPPOSITION?   COMMISSIONER MADDOX?   >> I VOTE AYE. THANK YOU SO   MUCH.  >> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.  >> THANK YOU. NOMINATIONS TO  THE GOVERNOR OF SERVICES. THE   ITEM SEEKS THE BOARD'S   NOMINATION OF ELIGIBLE   APPLICANTS BE FORWARDED THE   GOVERNOR FOR VACANT SEATS. THE  BOARD IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE NAMES OF AT LEAST THREE PERSONS  FOR EACH VACANCY. THE BOARD   HAD PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED NINE  NOMINATIONS FOR THE FREE  AGENCIES BUT ON DECEMBER 13th,  THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE  REQUESTED A NEW LIST OF   CANDIDATES. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE OLD LIST OF NINE AS WELL AS A NEW LIST OF WHAT WAS 10 BUT   WE DISTRIBUTED AN ADDITIONAL   ONE THAT WE GOT IN JUST VERY  RECENTLY TO MAKE THAT 11. THE  BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY WITH  ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS BEFORE YOU  TO SUBMIT ANY NUMBER OF THOSE   APPLICANTS FOR THE GOVERNOR'S  CONSIDERATION.   >> THANK YOU. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AS A MEMBER OF THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, I   WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A   MOTION.   >> HOLD ON, PLEASE. HOLD ON,  PLEASE. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON  THE ITEM.   >> I'M VERY SORRY. NOT SURE IF THEY ARE STILL WITH US.  >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.  >> APPRECIATE IT.  >>  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR  LETTING ME SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR  THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO. I   THINK I HAVE BENEFITED FROM  THIS DISCUSSION AROUND ITEM 27. I COME TO YOU TODAY AS A   PRIVATE CITIZEN OF DISTRICT   FIVE. TYPICALLY, I COME TO  SPEAK TO GROUPS ON BEHALF OF   OTHERS AND ORGANIZATIONS. THIS  IS UNUSUAL FOR ME BUT I COME TO SPEAK ON MY OWN BEHALF. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO INCLUDE MY   NAME TO YOUR NOMINEES. BOTH OF  US WERE PREVIOUSLY NOMINATED BY THIS BODY AND ARE IN THAT LIST  THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU   FROM THE LAST ROUND. I WANT TO  TAKE A COUPLE MOMENTS TO   HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS THAT ARE  ON MY APPLICATION. A FEW THINGS THAT ARE NOT CAPTURED ON MY  APPLICATION. I HAVE BEEN  WORKING ON YOUTH EMPOWERMENT   ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND  FAMILY SUPPORT FOR OVER 20   YEARS. I AM A RETURNED PEACE   CORPS VOLUNTEER FROM UKRAINE  AND I STAYED ON TO SUPPORT AN   ORPHANAGE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. I AM A KIDNEY DONOR, A FATHER.  I'VE SERVED AS A FOSTER PARENT IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'VE BEEN A READING POWELL FOR MANY YEARS   AND I HAVE WORKED FOR THE LAST  FOUR DAYS COACHING AND   SUPPORTING YOUTH THAT OF AGE   THAT A FOSTER CARE OR   EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS. THEY  COME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. I AM A MENTOR FROM THE CHAPTER   AND I SPENT THE LAST TWO DAYS   MEETING WITH OVER 50 OF OUR  ELECTED OFFICIALS ACROSS THE   STREET ADVOCATING FOR CHANGE,  NOT FOR THEMSELVES BUT FOR   THEIR PEERS.  >> IN PREVIOUS ROUNDS, I HAD   RECOMMENDATION OF THE FORMER  DEAN FROM THE COLLEGE OF SOCIAL WORK. YOU HAVE TO SET UP THE   COUNCIL, I CURRENTLY WORK ON  PROJECTS TO INCLUDE A CHILD   WELFARE SYSTEM ACROSS THE   STATE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING  THE COUNCIL FROM THE BEGINNING, ATTENDING FORUMS, OPEN HOUSES,  AND I REALIZED IN WAITING FOR   THE GOVERNOR'S APPOINTMENT   THAT THERE WAS NO REASON I  COULD NOT ATTEND THE BOARD   READINGS AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN   SO I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR   THE LAST. I THINK THAT IS VERY  HELP FOR ME TO CURE THE OTHER   CONVERSATION THAT WAS HERE   TONIGHT. I HAVE APPLIED OPEN  SEATS SINCE THE COUNCILS. I   DON'T KNOW THE OTHER  CANDIDATES ON THE LIST BUT THE  NAMES THAT ARE FAMILIAR ARE ALL GOOD CANDIDATES. I AM HERE TO  ASK FOR MYSELF, JOHN SHEETS,   AND THE CURRENT CHAIR. I INVITE YOU TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS  THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, AN HOUR   LATER. I AM READY TO SERVE.   >> THANK YOU, MR. SHEETS FOR  COMING. WE APPRECIATE IT.   >> I DO NOT THINK ANYONE HAS   ANY QUESTIONS.  >> I AM SORRY.   >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE   TABLE 2. THOSE PERSONS WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO OUR   GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.  I BELIEVE  IF I READ RIGHT, STAFF, PLEASE  CORRECT ME. THE GOVERNOR'S   OFFICE REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING   WITHIN THE 4-5 DAY WINDOW WHICH THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO AND   WAITED FIVE MONTHS. WHEN THEY   WAITED FIVE MONTHS, THEY ASKED  OR A NEW PRESENTATION OF NAMES. WE SENT PEOPLE'S NAMES WITH   GOOD CITIZENS LIKE MR. SHEETS   TO QUALIFY. WAS THE GOVERNOR   TURNING DOWN? CITIZENS OF OUR  COMMUNITY TO SERVE ON OUR   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL.   PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW, YOU KNOW,  I KNOW. I LIKE TO SEND THE SAME NAMES BACK UP THERE BECAUSE  WE'VE GOT NO RESPONSE.  >> LET'S GET A SECOND.  >> OKAY, THANK YOU. THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH DEMOCRACY. WE HAD  A CONGRESSMAN REPRESENT IN OUR  AREA. LEGISLATURE RECOMMENDED   THAT A SENSE OF DREW MAPS THAT  ALLOWED US TO CONTINUE TO BE   CONGRESSIONAL. DECIDE TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION INPUT FORTH HIS MATH OF WHICH HE IS NOT THE   STATES. HERE WE ARE, HE TOOK  AWAY OUR CONGRESSMAN. 90% OF   THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT ONE   VOTED. HE TOOK THAT AWAY. WE   ARE TELLING THEM THESE ARE THE  NAMES THAT WE WANT AND HE CAN.  THIS IS WHY I DID NOT SUPPORT  THE COUNCIL, INITIALLY AND   STOOD WITH THOSE WHO OPPOSED IT BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR , THE   STATE IS PUTTING THE MONEY INTO THIS BUT GETS TO MAKE FIVE OF   THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IT IS  TOTALLY INCONSISTENT. IN FACT,  WHAT HE IS DOING IS THE VERY   REASON WE HAVE THE AMERICAN   REVOLUTION. HOW DOES GREAT   BRITAIN GET TO TATE WHO IS   GOING TO LEAD US COLONIES IN   LAMB COUNTY? LEON COUNTY. WE   ARE SENDING NAMES TO GREAT  BRITAIN AND GREAT BRITAIN IS  REFUSING TO OFFER IT. WE DON'T WANT THESE. THESE ARE NOT GOOD  ENOUGH. I WILL SAY THEY ARE   GOOD ENOUGH AND STAND BY THE   SHEET OF PAPER. IN OUR FAULT OF THE GOVERNOR DON'T WANT THEM.  WE WANT THESE PEOPLE AND I  THINK WE SHOULD STANDBY WILL BE SAID THE FIRST TIME. AN  EXPLANATION ON ANYTHING. THEY   TOOK FIVE MONTHS INSTEAD OF 45  DAYS TO PROVE.   >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.  WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO,  COMMISSIONERS.  SINCE I AM YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COUNCIL,  THE STATUTE SAYS WE NEED TO  SEND A MINIMUM OF THREE. IT   DOES NOT GIVE US THE MAXIMUM. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A   SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO SUBMIT   BOTH IN ADDITION TO DR. DAVID   ON ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS. I  LIKE TO USE THE SUBSTITUTE   MOTION TO SEND BOTH LIST. THANK YOU.   >> I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.   >> IS THERE A SECOND?  >> I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION,  MADAM CHAIR.  >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A   SECOND? THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER  DISCUSSIONS?   >> ANOTHER BROKEN RECORD. I'M  OING TO END UP RESPECTFULLY  OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME NAMES THAT I DO NOT  BELIEVE WOULD BE IN THE BEST   INTEREST. JUST A LITTLE   EXPLANATION FOR WHAT IS COMING.   >> CLARIFICATION. SOME ON THE   SECOND LIST IS WHAT YOU ARE   SAYING? ANY OTHER COMMENT?   >> OKAY. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR  OF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WHICH  IS TO SEND BOTH LIST TO THE   GOVERNOR IN ADDITION TO THE   LAST APPLICANT , DR. BELLAMY?   >> OTHERS IN FAVOR, LET IT BE   KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.   COMMISSIONER MADDOX, ARE YOU   THERE?   >> ANY OPPOSITION?   >> COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE,   COMMISSIONER MINOR.  >> I HAVE POSED AS WELL.  >> I THOUGHT YOU WERE A MOTION.   >> WITH THE ORIGINAL LIST.   >> RE-ELECTED THE SERVICE. TO  SERVE OUR COUNTY IN MAKING   THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE   BOARD THAT WE 100% FUND.   >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR.   >> ITEM NUMBER 30, SEEKS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE   AND THE UNAFFORDABLE FOR   QUALITY GROWTH. THE ITEM SEEKS  OR RECOMMENDS OPTIONS 1-2. WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF ELIGIBLE   APPLICANTS WHICH SATISFIED.  >> SECOND.   >> THANK YOU.  >> MR. CHAIR, IS THERE ANY   DISCUSSION OF THOSE IN FAVOR,   LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.  ANY OPPOSITION ?   >> ADMINISTRATORS,  THAT   CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.  >> THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL GO TO IF THERE IS ANY COMMENTS FROM   MY COUNTY ATTORNEY.   >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER UNDER   CITIZENS TO BE HEARD ON   NON-AGENDA ITEMS. KAREN   PREACHER.   >> THANK YOU, MISS PREACHER.   >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR  HEARING ME TONIGHT. I AM HERE   ABOUT AIRBNB'S AND   NEIGHBORHOODS. I RECENTLY HAD   ONE THAT IS BEEN PLACED RIGHT   NEXT TO MY TOWN HALL. THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING LESS THAN A  MONTH AND IN THAT MONTH, WE'VE HAD LOUD NOISES ALL NIGHT, DOGS BARKING ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT.  OTHER ISSUES, PARKING, UNABLE  TO GET OUR CARS OUT. FIREWORKS. THIS WAS NOT NEW YEAR'S. THIS  WAS OVER A WEEK LATER. ONE OF  THE ANIMALS WAS MANAGED TO GET  ON TOP OF A TABLE.  THIS MAKES  A SERIES OF STRESS AND A  PROBLEM. AS A COMMUNITY, SOME   KINDS OF REGULATIONS AROUND   THESE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN   PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR   NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE OUR  CITIZENS LIVE AND I WOULD LIKE  TO ASK THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO LOOK INTO SOME THINGS LIKE   THAT. MAYBE WORK WITH THE CITY  AND COME ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU, MISS PREACHER.   ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?   >> NO.  >> THANK YOU. NOW WE ARE AT  COMMISSION COMMENTS.   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE?   >> I'M SORRY. MADAM COUNTY   ATTORNEY ?   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DO HAVE ONE ITEM FOR THE BOARD   THIS EVENING. THE LEON COUNTY   BOARD AT ITS MEETING AND I WAS  NOTIFIED THAT THE BOARD HAS   REQUESTED, AS IT HAS IN THE TWO PREVIOUS ELECTION CYCLES, THAT  I REPRESENT THE CANVASSING   BOARD IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION  CYCLE. I'M TAKING DIRECTION   FROM THE BOARD WHETHER THEY   WISH TO PROVIDE ME THAT   REPRESENTATION OR,  ALTERNATIVELY, IF TIME DEMANDS  AND CONSTRAINTS, DICTATE --   GIVE ME AUTHORITY TO HIRE   COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE   CANVASSING BOARD. THANK YOU.   >> SECOND.   >> MOVED.   >> MADAM CHAIR, I CAN TESTIFY   TO THE COUNTY SKILL AT  REPRESENTING THE CANVASSING  BOARD VERY WELL. SHE IS A TRUE  PROFESSIONAL.  >> THANK YOU.  >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT   BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY   OPPOSITION?  COMMISSIONER  MADDOX?  >> AYE.    >> AYE. YOU HAVE IT, MADAM   ATTORNEY.    >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.   THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE   BOARD. STORM RECAP, I KNOW IT  FEELS LIKE A YEAR AGO BUT SINCE LAST TIME WE MET, I WANTED TO   GIVE A BIG THANKS TO COUNTY   STAFF RELATED TO THE VERY   SEVERE SQUALL THAT CAME   THROUGH. EVEN THOUGH WE  RECOVERED VERY QUICKLY, THERE  COUNTY ROADS . AGAIN, LOOKING   FOR US AND COMMUNITY, VERY   LITTLE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AND NO LOSS OF LIFE WHICH IS THE BIG  THING. OF COURSE, WE CONTINUE  TO LEARN FROM EACH ONE OF   THESE. FINALLY, LEGISLATIVE  SESSION. I WANTED TO, VERY  QUICKLY, I ASKED TO BE PREPARED TONIGHT BUT I AM SENSITIVE AT   THE LENGTH OF THE MEETING  COMPARED TO A QUICK UPDATE. I   WILL GIVE IT FOR HER IF YOU  WOULD LIKE AND JUST KNOW THAT   SHE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY   QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. WE ARE  THREE WEEKS INTO SESSION, OR AS NIKKI CALLS IT, THE FIRST   PRIMARY. IN THAT TIME, WE'VE   GOT A LOT OF BAD BILLS FILED.   THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT COUNTY REVENUES BUT POTENTIALLY,   OBVIOUSLY THERE ISSUES THAT WE  ARE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION   TO. YOU WILL GET YOUR UPDATES   ON EVERY FRIDAY THROUGHOUT.   WERE ALWAYS HERE TO ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.   CALLING UPON YOU THROUGHOUT  SESSION WE NEED YOU TO PIGEON.  UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER   QUESTIONS, WE ARE HAPPY TO  ANSWER THEM. BUT IF THAT IS IT, THAT IS THE REPORT.  >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER   MINOR?  >> I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE.   >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM  CHAIR. I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM   TONIGHT. IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT IT MIGHT BE  TIME TO RECONSIDER INCREASING   THE BENEFITS WE OFFER FOR   PARENTAL LEAVE FOR LEON COUNTY  EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE GENERALLY   STAYED ABOVE THE CURVE ON THAT  BUT IN THE PAST YEARS, THE   STATE OF FLORIDA CAME AND SNUCK UP ON US AND THE STATE OF  FLORIDA HAS A GENEROUS RENTAL   THE POLICY. I DON'T THINK   THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I SPOKE   WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM A   COUNSEL ABOUT IT AND THEY ARE   ACTUALLY, AS A COUNSEL,   DEVELOPING IMMUNITY BEST   PRACTICES FOR EMPLOYER PARENTAL LEAVE POLICIES. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK A RECOMMENDED   IMPROVED PARENTAL LEAVE POLICY  FOR OUR EMPLOYEES WITH INPUT   FROM THE REPORT OR INFORMATION  FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE STATUS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS.  >> IS THERE SECOND?   >> THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN  FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY   SAYING AYE.   >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX?  >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE?   >> I HOPE MY WIFE DOESN'T PUSH ME TO HAVE MORE KIDS NOW. THANK YOU.  >> COMMISSIONER MINOR.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I  THINK A LOT OF US HAVE THE  OPPORTUNITY TO GO SEE SOME OF   THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE LAST WEEK. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED  WITH THE THINGS THAT DJ IS  DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY. HE HAD BEEN DOING IT FOR SO MANY   YEARS. BUT I WANTED TO DO WITH  ACTUALLY SEEK A MOTION FOR A  PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING FOR   HIS WORK AND THE WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. ONE THING   THAT DJ TOLD ME WAS THAT THE   CITY HAS PROVIDED HIM WITH   THREE PROCLAMATIONS OVER THE   YEARS AND THAT LEON COUNTY HAS  PROVIDED BUCKETS. RIGHT NOW,   IT'S 3-0. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS MOTION FOR A PROCLAMATION  BUT AS AN ADDENDUM, I WOULD   LIKE TO HAVE FOUR COPIES OF   THIS PROCLAMATION MADE UP SO  THAT WE'VE GOT FOUR IN THE   CITY'S GOT THREE. IT IS  UNACCEPTABLE THAT THE CITY IS  LEADING THIS 3-0. THAT IS THE  MOTION.   >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A   SECOND?   >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT   BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.   >> AYE. COMMISSIONER MADDOX?   >> AYE.   >> THANK YOU.   >> IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE  TREE YESTERDAY, I MENTIONED  BRIEFLY ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING TO THIS BODY  FOR THIS MEETING. ONE, I TALKED ABOUT THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES   THAT WE'VE GOT. THE COUNTY IS  DOING A GOOD JOB. WE PLEDGED TO HAVE 30% OF OUR VEHICLE FLEET   GOING EV BY 2030 BUT SINCE THIS WAS MADE, THE MARKET IS CHANGED IN EV'S A BIT. WHAT I WOULD   LIKE TO DO IS ASK THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS TEAM TO  TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE  ADJUSTING MARKET IS AND SEE IF  WE CAN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ON  THE TRANSITION TO ELECTRIC   VEHICLES FOR LIGHT VEHICLE  DUTIFULLY.  RECOGNIZING THAT WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER GET TO 100% BECAUSE FOR EMERGENCY  MANAGEMENT, OUR VEHICLES, WE  NEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THEM   TO BE FUEL BASED SO IF WE HAVE  EXTENDED POWER OUTAGES, WE   DON'T RUN THE RISK OF NOT   HAVING ENOUGH VEHICLES FOR  TRANSPORTING OUR EMPLOYEES. I  RECOGNIZE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATOR DIRECT  HIS TEAM TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO TO ACCELERATE THAT  THE VEHICLE THAT WE'VE GOT AND BRING THAT BACK TO A TIME THAT  IS SUITABLE. THAT IS MY MOTION.   >> THANK YOU. IT IS YOUR MOTION FOR THE AGENDA ITEM TO COME   BACK. IS THERE A SECOND?  >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,   LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.   ANY OPPOSITION? MISSION OR   MADDOX?   >> OKAY. I VOTE AYE.   >> THE NEXT THING , I TALKED   ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY OF IT  POLICY THAT WE HAD. WE DO A  GOOD JOB WITH THAT. WE GOT A  GREEN EVENTS CHECKLIST THAT IS  AVAILABLE ONLINE ON OUR  WEBSITE.  IT ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO  ENGAGE WITH THE COUNTY ON   EVENTS TO GO THROUGH THAT AND   MAKE THEIR EVENTS MORE   SUSTAINABLE. THE CITY IS DOING  A REALLY GOOD JOB AS WELL. GOT  A RIGID, ROBUST SUSTAINABILITY  OF IT POLICY. I WOULD LIKE TO   SEE IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT  WHAT WE COULD DO WITH OUR   EXISTING POLICY WITHOUT HAVING  AN EVEN MORE ROBUST  SUSTAINABILITY EVENT POLICY. I  UNDERSTAND AND AM ASSUMING IT   ALREADY HAS. WE NEED TO WORK   WITH THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE   CONTRACT BUT THERE MAY BE   OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO, NUMBER ONE, UPGRADE OUR EVENT POLICY   AND SEE WHERE IT MIGHT APPLY TO THE 2026 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.   MY MOTION IS TO BRING BACK AN   AGENDA ITEM ALONG THOSE LINES.    >> IS THERE A SECOND?  >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,   LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE .   >> AYE.    >> THANK YOU. I VOTE AYE.   >> THE LAST THING, I WANTED TO  THANK OUR COUNTY STAFF FOR  ORGANIZING WITH THE CITY, I   BELIEVE, THE DAY THAT TOOK   PLACE ON JANUARY 20th. THE   TREEPLANTING EVENT. THAT WAS   REALLY TERRIFIC. I THINK IT WAS OVER 120 TREES THAT WERE   PLANTED. IT WAS VERY COLD IN   THE MORNING BUT REALLY GREAT   EFFORT. WITH A GREAT TURNOUT  FROM THE PUBLIC. IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE,   CITIZENS CAN GO TO OUR LEON   COUNTY WEBSITE  AND BASICALLY,  ADOPT A TREE. YOU CAN GO TO    LEONCOUNTYFL.GOV. THERE ARE 2-3 TYPES OF TREES THAT YOU CAN   PLANT IN YOUR PROPERTY HOME.    LEONCOUNTYFL.GOV/ADOPTATREE.   >> THANK YOU. IT FEELS GOOD TO  BE BACK IN THE SWING. WE HAD   TWO BACK TO BACK MEETINGS. I   ENJOYED SOME OF THE   CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD. I  DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH. I JUST   WANT TO GIVE A QUICK THANK YOU  TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTERED HER  AND STAFF. THERE WAS A COUPLE  OF DISTRICT 2 ITEMS IN CONSENT. I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THOSE. ALSO, I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUT  OUT TO SDOT AT THE FLORIDA  DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.   THEY HAVE REALLY BEEN DOING  SOME EXTENSIVE WORK IN DISTRICT 2. HIGHWAY 20, CAPITAL CIRCLE  SOUTHWEST . THEY ARE CONTINUING TO INVEST IN DISTRICT 2 AND I  APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS. THAT IS ALL I GOT. THANK YOU.   >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR?   >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.  WHAT A GREAT COMMISSION. I  ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU. WE ARE  A GREAT COMMISSION. MADAM   CHAIR, WE APPRECIATE THE   LEADERSHIP, THE THINGS THAT WE  ACCOMPLISHED. AMONG THOSE   THINGS IS THAT WE ASK TO GIVE  SOME DIRECTION TO COUNTY STAFF  AT LOOKING AT NATIONAL FOREST   AND SECURING. IT WAS  INTERESTING TONIGHT THAT WE   HEARD WHERE THE STATE GAVE LEON COUNTY THE GREEN LIGHT. THERE  IS PRESIDENT OF THE STATE OF  GIVING THE CHARGE OF LAND.   THERE IS ALSO PRESIDENT FOR THE GOVERNMENT. ONCE WE LEFT THAT  MEETING, I DID A LITTLE   DIGGING. PUBLIC LAW 110-343.    THERE ARE FIVE COUNTIES IN  FLORIDA THAT RECEIVE PAYMENTS   WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT  PAYS THEM BECAUSE OF HIGH   PERCENTAGE OF FOREST OCCUPIES  AND TAKES UP THEIR LAND. THAT   IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE  20% OF OUR LOCAL PROPERTIES IN  LEON COUNTY OCCUPIED BY THE   FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I THINK   THAT WE WOULD BE WELL ADVISED   TO PURSUE THIS MEASURE BUT IS  ALREADY ON THE BOOKS CALLED  SECURE.  I LOOKED AT THE  SOUTHERN REGION FOR OUR FOREST  THAT THE GOVERNMENT PUTS THEIR  NAME ON AS CLAIMING. WE'VE GOT APALACHICOLA NATIONAL FOREST,  THE ONE THAT OCCUPIES OUR  STATE.  WE HAVE THE NATIONAL   FOREST IN FLORIDA. WE HAVE   EIGHT SIGNIFICANT STATE. WE  NEED TO LOOK INTO PUBLIC LAW   110-343 TO FIND OUT WHAT IS   AVAILABLE IN LIGHT OF THE FACT  THAT SO MUCH.   >> COMMISSIONERS, I APPRECIATE  YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE CALL FOR  AN OFFICIAL APOLOGY. FOR WEEK   TWO ADOPT AND DO SOMETHING   TONIGHT FOR FURTHERING THAT   APOLOGY. IT'S JUST GOING TO  COME BACK AT SOME POINT OR   WHAT?   >> MADAM CHAIR, IT WAS IN YOUR  RATIFICATION YESTERDAY.   >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.   >> I WANTED TO ASK IF WE CAN  GET AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY  INVESTMENT ACT? I JUST CANNOT   REMEMBER. 2004-5. WE HAD A   CHANCE TO SEE WHAT WERE DOING  WITH RESPECT TO LOANS, NEW   MORTGAGES. WHERE THEY WERE   SENDING MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY  REINVESTMENT ACT. IT ENTITLED   US TO A PEEP AT WHAT THEY ARE   DOING. IT GIVES A DEMOGRAPHIC   BREAKDOWN OF THE APPLICANT BY   RACE, GENDER, AND SOME OTHER   THINGS. I THINK THAT THE BOARD  WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO KNOW  IF OUR BANKS ARE BEING FAIR AND REFLECTING IN THEIR LOANS .   AREAS IN WHICH THEY RECEIVE   DEPOSITS.  >> MR. ADMINISTERED RATER, THIS IS GOING TO BE SHORT. CAN WE   GET SOME LIGHTS ON CRAWFORD   BILL HIGHWAY SOUTH OF WILSON   GREEN? AND INSIDE THE URBAN   SERVICES AREA, WE ARE STILL A   LITTLE DARK. I INVITE ANY AND   ALL OF YOU TO COME DOWN. I  WOULD DO ANYTHING LEGAL TO   SECURE SOME LIGHTS FOR ROAD  FROM WILSON GREEN NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO TO GET STARTED  FOR CITIZENS INSIDE THE URBAN   SERVICES AREA. I DO NOT KNOW IF I NEED A MOTION, MADAM  ATTORNEY. BUT CAN WE DO TO   INSTIGATE, INVESTIGATE, TO   SOMEHOW AGITATE -- WHAT DO WE  DO TO GET THE PEOPLE IN THAT  AREA TO BE BROUGHT TO A   STANDARD? A HEALTH STANDARD   EQUAL TO MOST OF THE COMMUNITY  AT TEMPORARY AGE? WHAT WOULD   YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE DO TO GET CENTRAL PIPES INSIDE THE URBAN  SERVICES AREA TO COMMUNITIES   THAT HAVE TO PUT THEIRS IN THE  BACKYARD?   >> DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT?   >> SURE. WE ARE HAPPY TO BRING  SOMETHING BACK. WE WILL CHECK   WITH THE CITY TO BRING BACK.    >> DO YOU NEED A MOTION?  >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF YOU  COULD TIE THE CRA ITEM TOO. I  WILL CHECK INTO THAT, MR.   PROCTOR AND GET BACK TO YOU.  >> YESTERDAY --   >> LET'S DO A MOTION.   >> I AM SO MOVED.   >> ON THE COMMUNITY   REINVESTMENT ACT AND INSIDE THE URBAN SERVICES. IS THERE A   SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY  OPPOSITION?  COMMISSIONER?   >> AYE.   >> YESTERDAY, THE DEBT SERVICE   SCHEDULE THAT OUR COMMISSION   CAN RECEIVE ON OUR CURRENT   DEBTS IS GOING TO EXPIRE AND  THE MONIES THAT WE ARE PUTTING  OUT INTERMITTENTLY FOR SERVICES OF DEBT, I THINK WE DESERVE --  MAYBE THEY CAN BE INCORPORATED  IN OUR BUDGET.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.  >> THANK YOU.    >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX?   >> YES, MA'AM.   >> I WANT TO REQUEST A   PROCLAMATION ON THE HALF --  EXCUSE MY SON. HE IS SUPPOSED   TO BE SICK. THE NATIONAL MS   SOCIETY SUGGESTED A  PROCLAMATION FOR MARCH BE   NATIONAL MS MONTH. THEY WANT TO BE PRESENTED AT THE MARCH   MEETING. MADAM CHAIR, THAT IS   MY MOTION AND THAT IS ALL I  HAVE.   >> IS THERE SECOND? ALL THOSE   IN FAVOR? AYE?  NO OPPOSITION?    >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   MADDOX. THAT IS IT.  >> THANK YOU.   >> COMMISSIONER WELCH?   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I  WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION   AND ITEM THAT WAS ON CONSENT.   IN REGARDS TO AMBULANCE   PLACEMENT AT THE FIRE STATION  ON CENTERVILLE ROAD WITH   LIFE-SAVING CAPABILITIES, FIXED PLACEMENT. THIS IS A BIG WIN  FOR THE FOLKS IN THAT CORRIDOR. THE ONLY RURAL FIRE STATION   THAT DID NOT HAVE A PERMANENT   ADVANCED LIFE-SAVING   CAPABILITY. THIS WAS A BIG LIFT BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN  COOPERATION WITH THE CITY OF. I WANT TO THANK THEM IN THE FIRE  CHIEF FOR GET THAT DONE. THAT   WAS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA   EARLIER. THANK YOU TO MADAM   CHAIR FOR  LETTING ME HANG OUT  ON THE OPENING REMARKS CIRCUIT  LAST WEEK. I WAS ABLE TO GO TO  THE VISIT TALLAHASSEE MARKETING ROLLOUT AS WELL AS THE  ORCHESTRA PERFORMANCE ON SUNDAY AND DELIVER SOME OPENING   REMARKS ON BEHALF OF THE   COUNTY. BOTH EXCELLENT EVENTS.  DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE   MARKETING ROLE. PERFECTLY  APPROPRIATE VENUE FOR OUR 200   YEAR CENTENNIAL KICKOFF FOR OUR RESTAURANT FOLKS. WE GOT A  GREAT AGENDA SCHEDULED FOR  MARKETING AND VISITING IN THIS  NEXT YEAR. THE TALLAHASSEE   SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, I DO NOT   KNOW IF ANYBODY THOUGHT. IT WAS INCREDIBLE. DARRELL JONES   RECITING THE WORDS OF ABRAHAM   LINCOLN IN THAT VOICE OF HIS  OVER THAT MUSIC. IT WAS IN   CREDIBLY POWERFUL STUFF. I   WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE   SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER JONES,   NUMBER ONE, WITH AN ABSOLUTELY  NOTABLE PERFORMANCE AS WELL AS  THE SYMPATHY ORCHESTRA. I AM   NOT MUCH OF A SYMPHONY GUY.  I  TELL YOU WHAT, I WAS TOTALLY  CAPTIVATED AS I SAT THERE IN   THE CONCERT HALL AND LISTENED   WITH A WONDERFUL VISUAL HISTORY OF TALLAHASSEE AND STUFF GOING  ON IN THE BACKGROUND. ALSO, I   WANTED TO THINK CONGRESS AND   NEIL WHO I MET WITH THIS   AFTERNOON ABOUT SERVICE ISSUES.  I'M NOT IMMUNE TO THE IDEA   THAT THERE ARE ISSUES ALL OVER  THE COUNTY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE   ANY OF YOU IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT. HE IS EQUALLY   CONCERNED WITH THAT. WE'VE GOT SOME REAL CHRONIC ALBUMS IN   DISTRICT FOR. AND THEN   CONGRATULATIONS TO ROB CLARK ON BEING THE NEW CHAMBER CHAIR. I  WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE BREAKFAST WITH COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE AND  COMMISSIONER MINOR THIS WEEK.   OTHER THAN THA, I THINK THAT   IS ALL I GOT. MADAM CHAIR,  THANK YOU SO MUCH.  >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK   OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN ALL OF HIS REMARKABLE STAFF. ALL  THAT THEY DO. THE PRESENTATION  AT THE COUNTY RETREAT AND I  WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR INPUT   AND COOPERATION ON DOING THAT   RETREAT AS WELL AS YOUR INPUT   TONIGHT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A   LONG MEETING BUT WE HAD SOME   IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND  I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO LISTEN  TO THE PUBLIC, LISTEN TO THE   VOTERS, LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS. I BELIEVE  WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS  WE CAN LIVE WITH GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU, ALL. I APPRECIATE   THE NATURE OF OUR COMMISSION .  I WANT TO THANK MY CO-CHAIR,   COMMISSIONER WELCH. I REALLY  HAD LOOK FORWARD TO A LOT OF   THOSE EVENTS, ESPECIALLY THE   SYMPHONIC -- DOING THE GRADING. HE DOES NOT KNOW THAT I PLAYED  IN THE SYMPHONIC BAND IN  COLLEGE. I LOVE SYMPHONY MUSIC. I PLAN TO BE THERE. OTHER   EVENTS THAT HE STEPPED IN FOR  ME ON LAST WEEK. I APPRECIATE   IT. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A GOOD   CO-CHAIR. MOSTLY, I HAD A  REALLY SERIOUS EVENT TUESDAY. I TOTALED MY CAR. I AM JUST   BLESSED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU,  GUYS, FOR THE PHONE CALLS AND   YOUR PRAYERS.  MY CAR, YOU CAN  SEE WHY I AM SAYING I AM REALLY BLESSED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU  SO MUCH.   >> MADAM CHAIR, I WILL   REPRESENT YOU AT YOLANDA ADAMS  IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE GOING   TO SEE YOLANDA, I WILL BACK YOU UP ON THAT ONE.  >> THANK YOU.   >> I WANT TO THANK, ALSO,   COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. EVERY   YEAR, THE MLK CELEBRATION IN   THE ROTUNDA DOWNSTAIRS AT THE   COUNTY COURTHOUSE. WE HAD A   DUTIFUL SERVICE ON MLK DAY. THE WEEK BEFORE, THE WEDNESDAY   BEFORE. WE HAD EIGHT REMARKABLE SPEAKER , SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.  HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE   CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL. HE   DID A REMARKABLE JOB AS OUR   GUEST SPEAKER. I JUST WANT TO   THANK COMMISSIONER PROCTOR FOR  ALWAYS SPEARHEADING THAT EVENT. BRINGING US TOGETHER. REMINDING US OF JUSTICE AND EQUALITY   THROUGHOUT HIS LIFETIME AND IF  HE CONTINUES TO INVIGORATE US   TO WORK TOWARDS THOSE.  I ALSO  WANT TO ASK THE BOARD FOR THE   SUPPORT IN SPONSORING A   SYMPOSIUM DURING BLACK HISTORY  MONTH. WE KNOW THAT BLACK  HISTORY MONTH IS COMING UP IN   FEBRUARY. TEACHING OUR OWN   HISTORY IS SCHEDULED TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 26th THROUGH THE   27th. IT IS SLATED TO PRESENT   WHICH IMPORTANT AND FACTUALLY   CORRECT HISTORY ABOUT AFRICAN   AMERICANS IN OUR COUNTRY IN   LEON COUNTY. THAT INFORMATION  WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE   CURRICULUM OF OUR   SCHOOLCHILDREN. I AM SEEKING  THE BOARD SUPPORT FOR $15,000  FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUND. BETH ADAPTED METHODIST CHURCH IS   HOSTING IT. SOME OF THE LEADING HISTORIANS AND SCHOLARS WILL BE COMING IN THAT WEEKEND MAKING   PRESENTATIONS. NOW, THEY DID  THE SAME REQUEST FOR THE CITY.  THEY ARE ASKING THE CITY   COMMISSION, THEY HAVE ASKED THE CITY COMMISSION FOR 15,000. THE CITY COMMISSION HAS ALREADY   AGREED TO, VOTED, AND APPROVED  15,000 FOR THIS VERY, VERY   SIGNIFICANT SYMPOSIUM AND IT  WILL TAKE PLACE THE WHOLE   WEEKEND.   >> I'M SORRY.  >> ARE YOU PASSING THE GAVEL TO MAKE A MOTION OR ARE YOU   PASSING OR ASKING --   >> OKAY. I AM ASKING SOMEBODY   ELSE.   >> SINCE IT IS NOT ON THE   PUBLIC AGENDA, WHAT I WOULD   LIKE TO DO IS ENTERTAIN A   MOTION TO WEIGH IN THE RULES TO CONSIDER A SPONSORSHIP OF THIS  REQUEST IN TEACHING OUR OWN  HISTORY. I RECOGNIZE THAT IT  REQUIRES  A UNANIMOUS VOTE BY   THE BOARD. . OBLIGATED THEIR   FUNDING. THANK YOU. IS THERE A  SECOND?  >> THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN   FAVOR OF WAIVING THE RULES, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE .   THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE A   MOTION TO AUTHORIZE A COUNTER  ATTORNEY TO APPROVE A BUDGET   AMENDMENT. I CAN MAKE THE   MOTION. LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY.  I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A   MOTION TOAUTHORIZE A COUNTY  ATTORNEY TO APPROVE A BUDGET   AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF   $15,000 FROM THE BOARD'S  GENERAL CONTINGENCY FUND. TO   SPONSOR THIS VERY SIGNIFICANT   SYMPOSIUM TEACHING OUR OWN   HISTORY.   >> MADAM CHAIR, I MADE THE  MOTION THAT WE WILL TAKE  $18,000 OUT OF OUR AGENCY FUND  TO SPONSOR THIS EVENT. THANK   YOU.   >> IS THERE A SECOND?  >> I SECOND.   >> END OF DISCUSSION, THANK  YOU, COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I   KNOW YOU SAID IT BUT I DID NOT  CATCH IT. CAN YOU SPECIFY THE  ORGANIZATION THAT THE   SPONSORSHIP IS GOING FOR.   >> IT IS CALLED  -- IT IS  SPONSORED BY THE BAPTIST   CONVENTION -- LET ME SEE. I AM  SORRY. OKAY, TEACHING OUR OWN   HISTORY TASK FORCE. TEACHING  OUR OWN HISTORY TASK FORCE.  MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH WILL  BE THE HOST CHURCH. THE HOST   HOTEL IS THE SHERIDAN. THEY ARE EXPECTING SPEAKERS FROM ALL  OVER THE COUNTRY WHO ARE   EXPERTS IN HISTORY AND   AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY .   LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE.  THERE   HAS ALREADY BEEN A TASK FORCE.  THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS  FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR AND IT'S  GOING TO CULMINATE IN FEBRUARY  DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH.    IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO   SCHEDULE IT DURING THE MONTH OF BLACK HISTORY. I THINK IT IS  SIGNIFICANT TOO, BECAUSE HERE  IN TALLAHASSEE, WE ARE  CELEBRATING 200 YEARS OF BEING  IN EXISTENCE. TALLAHASSEE AND  LEON COUNTY. ONE OF THE THINGS  I HAVE DONE, WE HAVE BEEN ON   THE. EMPHASIZING OUR HISTORY.   ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE   SAYING IS THAT ALL OF OUR   HISTORY IS IMPORTANT.  THE   GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY. IT IS  ALL IMPORTANT. WE DO NOT WANT   TO IGNORE ANY OF OUR HISTORY.   THAT IS WHY THIS IS VERY, VERY  IMPORTANT. SIGNIFICANT.   TEACHING OUR OWN HISTORY IS THE NAME OF IT. IT IS A NATIONAL   GROUP. I DO NOT SEE IT ON MY  PAPERWORK. I AM SORRY. TO  ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE, I DO NOT SEE IT ON --   >> -- I HAVE A PROCEDURE   QUESTION. THE UNANIMOUS IS   REQUIRED FOR WHAT WE JUST DID  TO WEIGH THE RULES. THIS BOAT  WILL BE NORMAL MAJORITY. THIS   COMING VOTE WON'T NEED TO BE  UNANIMOUS?  >> OH, OKAY. SINCE WE WAIVED  THE RULE, WILL IT JUST BE   MAJORITY?  >>  IN MY TIME HERE, THE BOARD  HAS NEVER WAIVED THE BOARD   POLICY OF REQUIRING THAT FOR A  SUBSTITUTE MATTER TO BE   CONSIDERED DURING COMMISSIONER  TIME THAT IT NOT REQUIRE  UNANIMOUS.  THE BOARD IS WAIVE  THAT REQUIREMENT. WE CAN DO IT  ON HER MAJORITY IF IT WISHES.   >> MAJORITY.   >> WAIVING THE ROLE WAS TO   WAIVE THAT PART? I AM CONFUSED. >> THAT IS WHAT YOUR MOTION   WAS, WAS TO WEIGH THE RULES.   THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. WHAT   YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE MOTIONING? >> NOW, SHE IS SAYING -- IT IS  A MAJORITY VOTE. IT IS JUST A   MAJORITY VOTE, BASICALLY.    >> I WILL SUPPORT THIS FOR YOU  BUT I JUST HAVE A FEAR -- WE   DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON  THIS AND I KNOW THAT  COMMISSIONER WELCH, LAST TIME   WE DISCUSSED THAT THIS WAS  GOING TO BE THE LAST TIME THAT  WE DID THIS. I AM PARTIAL   BECAUSE I WANT TO DO IT FOR YOU BUT I ALSO .  I WILL DO IT FOR  YOU BUT I JUST DON'T WANT -- I KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU  THAT I DON'T KNOW -- HOW DO WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE THIS DOES  NOT KEEP POPPING UP WHERE WE   ARE FORCED BETWEEN SUPPORTING A COLLEAGUE WITHOUT A LOT OF   INFORMATION? DOES THAT MAKE   SENSE?  >> THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. THANK  YOU COMMISSIONER CABAN . I   UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT DID NOT GET REQUESTED TO GO TO THE  PROCESS. I DO NOT THINK THE  CITY DID EITHER. TO ANSWER,   COMMISSIONER CABAN'S QUESTION, IT IS UP HERE.  THE BAPTIST   CONVENTION INCORPORATED IS LIKE THE UMBRELLA GROUP THAT IS   ADOPTED THIS.  WE ARE IN A  CAPITAL CITY AND WE HAVE TO   LAUNCH AND KICKOFF HERE IN LEON COUNTY, TALLAHASSEE DOING BLACK HISTORY MONTH BUT DOING   CELEBRATION TO. OKAY.  >> MADAM CHAIR, I HATE THAT I  GOT TO DO THIS BUT I CANNOT   SUPPORT THIS. I SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE SOME POLICY   AND IT IS JUST NOT RESPONSIBLE, IN MY OPINION, TO BE PROPPING   OUT 10-15, 20 $-25,000 REQUESTS FOR MONEY FOR NOT BEING CLEAR  ON WHERE IT'S GOING. I REALLY  APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER   CABAN'S SENTIMENT . IT PUTS US IN A DIFFICULT POSITION AND   WE'VE GOT TO DRAW THE LINE   SOMEWHERE. I APOLOGIZE BUT I  WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT   THIS REQUEST. I WILL OFFER  THIS, MADAM CHAIR.  YOU SAID   FEBRUARY 23rd?   >> 26-27.   >> OUR NEXT MEETING IS IN   FEBRUARY. THE STAFF WANTS TO  COME BACK WITH SOME ANALYSIS.   WHAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR,   IS IT A LOCAL GROUP, NATIONAL   GROUP. THESE ARE ALL VERY VALID QUESTIONS. I WOULD BE WILLING   TO CONSIDER IT THEN BUT I   CANNOT CONSIDER IT IN THIS   MOMENT IN TIME. SORRY.   >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   WELCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER   COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE.   >> HAVE A COME BACK TO YOU.    >> IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT   PREVENTS US THAT ON THE AGENDA  IN FEBRUARY SINCE THE EVENT   COMES AFTER THE MEETING AND THE PROCEEDING OPPORTUNITIES WHEN   WE HAVE DONE THIS, THE EVENT   ACTUALLY. IF WE CAN CONSIDER   HAVING THE AGENDA ITEM, THEN   MAKE DECISIONS.  AN OBLIGATION  FOR THE FUNDING PRIOR TO THE   EVENT SO THAT THERE CAN BE SOME PLANNING ON NATIONAL PEOPLE   THAT WILL BE COMING. WE   SCHEDULED FEBRUARY 26-27. I  BELIEVE OUR COMMISSION MEETING  IS THE WEEK BEFORE?   >> FEBRUARY 20th.    >> IS SIX DAYS BEFORE THE   FUNCTION, COMMISSIONER CABAN. I AM JUST THROWING IDEAS TO HELP.  IF WE ARE JUST HAVING ONE  AGENDA ITEM, WOULD BE SPECIAL  TO POSSIBLE TO HAVE ONE AGENDA  ITEM NEXT WEEK TO COME BACK?  I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS TOO  SHORT A TIME FOR ONE AGENDA   ITEM FOR STAFF TO DO A QUIC   ANALYSIS ON?  >> COMMISSIONER PROCTOR.   >> I'M SORRY. I STILL WANTED   TO SPEAK AFTER COMMISSIONER   MADDOX.   >> I AM SORRY.   >> I WAS STILL IN QUEUE. I  DIDN'T WANT TO GET DOWN THE   LINE.   >> OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM   CHAIR. WE HAVE THE MOTION ON   AND RESPECTFULLY, I SHARE   COMMISSIONER WELCH'S SENTIMENT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION TONIGHT BUT WE ARE  IN TACOMA ON AN AGENDA ON THE  20th WOULD BE EASY WITH MORE  INFORMATION I AM SURE IT WOULD  BE EASY . THIS ISSUE IS NOT   SUBSTANTIVE FOR A SPECIAL   MEETING. IT IS A SMALL FUNDING  REQUEST. PROBABLY SPENDS ABOUT  WORTH OF STAFF TIME AND ALL OF  THAT.  I AM SENSITIVE TO THE   SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM BUT LIKE  COMMISSIONER CABAN ,  BETHEL   CHURCH, THE WORK AT THEIR   SCHOOL, THE WORK OF THEIR NEW  DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE  OCCURRING.  HEAVY LIFTING YEAR  AFTER YEAR, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT . AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY   BEING PURGED FROM THE SCHOOL   RULES. COMMISSIONER OF   EDUCATION LAST WEEK .  GETTING  HIT ALL OVER THE HEAD AND  KICKED IN THE BUTT WITH RESPECT TO THE AUTHENTICITY AND   LEGITIMACY OF HISTORY IN   RESPECT OF AFRICANS.  WE HAVE  LANGUISHING IN THE SUPREME   COURT. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE WE   ARE GOING. THE HOSTILE FORCES   OF THE STATE RIGHT NOW,  THE   HEAT WITH WHICH THE  AUTHENTICITY OF OUR VERY   EXISTENCE IS -- NOT THAT   PROCEDURALLY, NORMALLY, I WOULD BUT I UNDERSTAND THE WAR   AGAINST OPPORTUNITIES. SUPREME  COURT ATTACKED THE FRONT OF   ACTION. THE KIDS THAT YOU MET   YESTERDAY WHO WERE MY STUDENTS, THERE WILL NOT BE WEIGHTED  CONSIDERATIONS WHEN THEY APPLY  FOR GRADUATE OR PROFESSIONAL   SCHOOL. SOME OF THEM MAY NOT GO AS A RESULT OF SUPREME COURT   RULING. I HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE WHETHER OR NOT OUR COUNTY, AND  I BELIEVE THAT OUR COUNTY   LEAVES. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH   THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHES. I   WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. THEIR   APOLOGIES FOR THE ROLES   CONDUCTED BY THEIR INSTITUTION  IN THE CHURCH AND BY MEMBERS AS INDIVIDUALS. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN IT IS YOUR PLANE HEART.   AND THIS ASK OF CHURCH LEADERS  SEEKING TO COME TOGETHER TO   LOOK AT WHAT CAN POSSIBLY BE A  CURRICULUM FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY.  I APPEARED LAST YEAR  ON FOX NEWS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD  BE.  THIS CURRICULUM THAT CAME  OUT OF COLLEGE BOARD.  TO IF   NOT TAKE THE REQUEST AND  SUPPORT OF THE CHURCH RIGHT  NOW. I DO NOT KNOW ANYBODY WHO  IS DEFENDING FOR MY   GRANDCHILDREN OR FIGHTING AS   NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTES TONIGHT IN  ALL POSSIBILITIES TO VOTE FOR   DONALD TRUMP. I AM GOING TO  VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE  EVERYTHING I SEE IS COMING   AFTER ME AND MY ANCESTRY AND   THE LEGITIMACY OF WHAT WE HAVE  FOUGHT IN OUR COUNTY. MY   APPRECIATION FOR MY UNANIMOUS  VOTE YESTERDAY TO APOLOGIZE.   THE STRUGGLE OF AFRICAN LIFE IS UNITY. WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE   TRYING TO DO IS BRING SCHOLARS  TO SEE WHAT CAN BRING   CONSTITUTE A VIABLE, ENERGETIC  HISTORY . YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT   IT. I'M IN A PULL UP OFF THE   SOAPBOX. I NEED TO GO   SOMEWHERE. I APPRECIATE YOU  BRINGING THIS UP. THIS IS A  TOUGH ONE BUT WE LOVE YOU. I  BELIEVE THAT INTEGRITY IS WHAT  INSPIRES THIS IS AS HEAVY AS IT CAN BE.    >> I HAVE ENJOYED . I HAVE  NEVER SEEN A BILL LIKE THIS. I  DO WANT TO OFFER A MOTION. I   HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO  HISTORY, TO OUR HISTORY. TO   EVERYONE'S HISTORY. THAT   THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN TO BE  ABLE TO SPONSOR THINGS LIKE  THIS BUT I ALSO HEAR . I WANT  TO APPROVE THE FUNDING BUT I   ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE IN MY   MOTION BUT POLICY BE CREATED.   UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES,   SPONSORSHIP CAN BE APPROVED   ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM AT ANY   TIME ABOVE THE THRESHOLD OF  $2500.  ALL OF THESE ARE  IMPORTANT, I COULD SEE IT DOWN  THE ROAD AND WE WERE PUTTING IN THE SAME POSITION. AT LEAST  CREATING A SITUATION TO WHERE   WE TAKE SOME OF THE FLEX  ABILITY AWAY FROM OURSELVES AND WE HAVE TO PUSH IT TO AN AGENDA ITEM. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I  WANT TO PUSH -- I WILL CHANGE   IT. MY MOTION OPERATION, MADAM  CHAIR, IS THAT WE APPROVE THE  $15,000 TONIGHT AND AFTER THIS  MEETING, NO SPONSORSHIP FUNDING WILL BE CONSIDERED  WITHOUT AN  AGENDA ITEM. THE ONLY WAY YOU   CAN GET TO THAT IS BE  RESEARCHED BY STAFF IN APPROVE. WE HAVE DONE THIS THREE TIMES.  I THINK WE HAD TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WE ARE LETTING  OURSELVES KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO  GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THERE  IS NO OTHER WAY ABOUT IT. THAT  IS MY MOTION. THAT IS MY   MOTION.   >> IS THERE SECOND?   >> COMMISSIONER MADDOX. CHAIR,  THE MOTION -- DID YOU GIVE YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER MADDOX?  >> HIS FIRST MOTION WAS TO  APPROVE THE FUNDING. THERE WAS  NO SECOND. WE ONLY HAVE ONE   MOTION ON THE FLOOR.  >> THANK YOU.   >> LET ME JUST SAY THIS. I   CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE   COMMISSIONER CABAN ,   COMMISSIONER PROCTOR IN   SUPPORTING THE MOTION THAT IS   ON THE FLOOR. I WOULD HOPE THAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WOULD   RECONSIDER AND CONSIDER THE   SENSITIVITY OF THIS TO MEMBERS  ON THIS BOARD THAT DON'T LOOK  LIKE YOU.  AFRICAN-AMERICAN  HISTORY HAS BEEN ATTACKED THE   LAST COUPLE YEARS.  FEDERAL   LEVEL AND ON THE STATE LEVEL.  ON THE STATE LEVEL, WE HAVE   FELT THE MOST DEVASTATING   IMPACT FROM OUR GOVERNOR AND  OUR STATE LEGISLATORS.  FUNDING FOR OUR UNIVERSITIES AND  COLLEGES.  CONNECTED TO EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND ADVERSITY. AS A  RESULT, MANY PEOPLE ON THESE  COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS. JOBS THAT THEY HAD FOR YEARS . FOR  INCLUSION OF EVERYONE. THE   GOVERNORS PROPOSED THE   LEGISLATURE. THIS IS AN EFFORT  ON THE PART OF US. THE PEOPLE  THAT LOOK LIKE ME TO PROMOTE   AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY WHICH  HAS BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY  EXCLUDED FROM OUR SCHOOLS IN   FLORIDA. THERE IS NO EFFORT TO  EXCLUDE MAJORITY HISTORY BUT  EFFORT TO EXCLUDE MINORITY   HISTORY. I GUESS I AM EXTRA  SENSITIVE TO THIS.  MANY   CITIZENS IN LEON COUNTY, HERE   IN TALLAHASSEE, HAVE   DESCENDENTS THAT WERE SLAVES .  THERE IS AN EFFORT TO WIPE OUT  ALL THE HISTORY. MY HISTORY IS  IMPORTANT. YOUR HISTORY IS  IMPORTANT.  THIS IS DESIGNED SO THAT WE, OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN   DESCENT CAN HAVE THIS AND   RECOGNIZE THAT WE, TOO, ARE   IMPORTANT AND WE, TOO, PLAYED A ROLE IN ORGANIZING THE STATE,   THE CITY, AND THIS COUNTY. WE  ARE NOT ASKING FOR COMMISSION,  THIS IS TAXPAYER FUNDS. THOSE   OF US OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN   DESCENT PAY TAXES IN THIS   COUNTY. WHILE I RECOGNIZE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT WE DO HAVE POLICY THAT DEALS WITH   REQUESTS, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THIS IS UNIQUE. I BELIEVE  THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE I  HAVE LIVED IN FLORIDA THAT   THERE IS A DIRECT SLOT ON  TEACHING . THE HISTORY OF OUR   PEOPLE FROM THE TOP TO THE  BOTTOM. THIS IS A UNIQUE   SITUATION. IN A SYMPOSIUM LIKE  THIS, IT IS VERY ESSENTIAL TO  MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN,  YOUR CHILDREN. IT DOES NOT   MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE BLACK,   WHITE, OR BLUE. I BELIEVE ALL   OF OUR HISTORY IS IMPORTANT,  ALL OF OUR HISTORY IS  ESSENTIAL. WHETHER THERE IS   GOOD, BAD, OR UGLY, WE KNOW THE HISTORY AND WE MOVE ON. LIKE I  SAY, THIS IS A POLICY, A UNIQUE SITUATION. I BELIEVE THIS WILL  GO ON.  AND REFUSED TO DO SO   WHEN WERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT   $15,000 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY. I  AM HOPING THAT MY FELLOW  MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION WOULD THINK AGAIN.  I ASKED THAT WE   DON'T PUT OVER SUBSTANCE AND   WE GRANT THIS MINOR SUBSIDY    THE TAXES THAT I PAY IS OVER  HALF OF THIS AMOUNT. I AM ONE   PERSON. I IMPLORE YOU TO THINK  AGAIN. I KNOW WE HAVE A POLICY. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION  WHERE THE VERY EXISTENCE OF MY  PEOPLE IS BEING ATTACKED. WE   CAN'T SIT AROUND AND ALLOW   SOMEBODY ELSE. WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT OURSELVES. WE ARE ASKING  FOR A MINUTE PIECE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.  >> A PERFECT ROLE. I WAS TRYING TO BE IN VERY POLITICALLY   CORRECT BECAUSE YOU WAS ON THE  STEPS OF THE CAPITAL LAST WEEK. THE MAYOR WAS THERE.  WAS LEON  COUNTY STAY AT THE CAPITAL. IT  REALLY STRUCK ME TO THE CORE  THE SECRETARY OF STATE WAS THE  OPENING SPEAKER.  TALKING STUFF IN A RESOLUTION. I HAD TO LEAVE AND GO HOME. I COULD NOT STAND  THERE. THAT MAN FILED A MOTION  WITH THE SAID SUPREME COURT TO  TELL THE SUPREME COURT OF   FLORIDA DID NOT LISTEN TO THE   APPEAL OF BOTH PLAINTIFFS WHO   ARE SEEKING THE HEARING ON   RESTORING CONGRESSIONAL SEAT   FIVE. 16-18-20 -22. MY DISTRICT HAD A BLACK MAN AS THE   CONGRESSMAN. DEMOCRAT  REGISTERED LIKE ME. THE  SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD ACT   LIKE THE RESOLUTION FOR LEON   COUNTY. STUCK A KNIFE IN OUR   BACK AND WROTE THE SUPREME   COURT TO NOT LISTEN TO US . THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS SUPPOSED  TO BE FAIR . THE PLEASE OF ALL  VOTERS. THE REFEREE OF ALBANY.  WE TOOK SIDES AND TOLD THE   COURT THAT MY DISTRICT, THE   BLACK FOLK LETTER BLACK PERSON  REPRESENT NORTH FLORIDA . ALL   THE SLAVE COUNTIES. IT IS THESE INSULTS THAT INFLAMED AND TRIED TO KEEP YOUR COOL. TRY TO   REMAIN POISED AND WE HAVE AN   ALL-MALE CONGRESSIONAL FRONT IN NORTH FLORIDA. THE ONLY OTHER   DEMOCRAT. THE CAPITAL OF   FLORIDA AND OR WHATEVER THAT   MEANS. THE SECRETARY OF STATE   IS NOT INTERESTED IN US HAVING  AN THE GOVERNOR IS NOT  INTERESTED. AND THEN, NOT ONLY  IS HE NOT INTERESTED, HE IS NOT INTERESTED THE NAMES THAT WE   SENT WITH BLACK PEOPLE ON IT   THAT SERVE ON THE CHILDREN   SERVICES COUNCIL. HE WANTS A   WHITE SHEET OF PAPER. JUST TO  BE REAL ABOUT IT. YOU ARE   TRYING TO BE COOL APPEAR, BE   POISED AND DON'T GO THERE AND  ALL OF THAT. WE JUST SAID WHAT  WE SEE. EVERY PERSON HAS THEIR  OWN CONVICTIONS ABOUT HOW THEY  VOTE BUT NOT ALL OF OUR  THOUGHTS ARE GENERATED FROM THE SAME REALITIES. I BACK MY   CHAIRWOMAN AND ASK   COMMISSIONERS IS THAT OVER   FORMED AND IF YOU WERE IN OUR   SHOES, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL WITH  ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE   SEEING ON A CONSTANT BASIS? I  NEVER HEARD OF THE CHAIRWOMAN   SPEAK ISSUES ABOUT. I HAVE   NEVER HEARD THAT. SHE IS NOT   THE PERSON I AM.  COMING FROM   MISSISSIPPI, THOSE VARIANCES   ARE RAW AND COMES OUT OF   MISSISSIPPI.   >> COMES OUT OF MISSISSIPPI.  ON, ON, AND ON. OUR CHAIRWOMAN  IS BLEEDING FROM A PLACE THAT   EVERY SLAVE INSIDE OF MY DNA IS RUNNING ACROSS THE BACK OF MY   SHOULDERS AND THEY HEAR YOU. I  DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL HERE  BUT I THOUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE   WHO COMPRISE OF MY DNA. THEY   HEAR EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST  SAID. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.  >> THINK YOU, COMMISSIONER  PROCTOR. COMMISSIONER WELCH?  >> MADAM CHAIR, MR. PROCTOR, I  AM ALSO FROM MISSISSIPPI.  I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE THINGS   THAT THE CHAIR DISCUSSES.  OBVIOUSLY, MADAM CHAIR HAD A   DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE GROWING UP IN MISSISSIPPI THAN I DID.  DO HAVE A SECOND.    >> WE DO HAVE  A QUESTION.    OKAY, I AM SORRY,  COMMISSIONER WELK  DID  PROVIDE THAT. ALL  THOSE  IN FAVOR, SAY  AYE . ANY OPPOSITION?    >> DOESN'T NEED TO BE DENIED . DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT, OKAY,  O'KEEFE ?    >> IT CANNOT BE  DEBATED.    >> OKAY,  THERE IS  NO DEBATE,  ALL OF THOSE  IN FAVOR OF THE  MOTION.    >> THE MOTION WOULD BE  TO  PROVIDE  THE SPONSORSHIP  TO  MADAME CHAIR'S  REQUEST, WITH   A REQUIREMENT THAT ANY  FUTURE REQUEST FOR FUNDING  OR  SPONSORSHIPS THAT COME FROM    CONTINGENCY , OVER $2500, WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE AN AGENDA.  >>  OKAY.  ALL THOSE  IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.   AYE. ANY  OPPOSED ?    >>  NAY.    >> ONE OPPOSED. THANK YOU,  COMMISSIONERS.  THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR , FOR THE EMOTION  --    MOTION.  THANK YOU ALL  SO  MUCH.  IT WAS A GREAT  MEETING. THANK YOU, AUDIENCE, THANK YOU  EMPLOYEES FOR BEING HERE.   ---------   >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.  WELCOME TO OUR JANUARY 23rd,   2024 MEETING. OUR VERY FIRST   COMMISSION MEETING OF THE NEW   YEAR. SO WE WANT TO WELCOME  EACH ONE OF YOU HERE. WE ARE  GOING TO BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN CABAN   INTRODUCING THE PASTOR WHO WILL PROVIDE THE INVOCATION.   COMMISSIONER CABAN?    >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. FOR  THE INVOCATION TODAY, WE ARE  GOING TO HAVE PASTOR MATTHEW   WILEY  FROM LAKE TALQUIN   BAPTIST CHURCH, ACCOMPANIED BY  HIS WIFE KIM AND WIFE  KELLY.   PASTOR WILEY?    >> THANK YOU TO THE   COMMISSIONERS FOR HAVING ME   TODAY. AND TO COMMISSIONER   CABAN FOR THE INVITATION. BOW   YOUR HEADS, LET US PRAY. DEAR   HEAVENLY FATHER , I'D LIKE TO  THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL  DAY. MAY WE ALL KNOW THAT EVERY MORNING YOU WAKE US UP AND  ALLOW US TO DRAW BREATH IS   ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU ARE GIVING US TO SERVE YOU. WE ALL HAVE  OUR OWN PATH AND CALL TO   SERVICE, LORD. BUT WE ARE ALL   CALLED TO SERVE YOU. AS THEY  FOLLOW  THEIR CALL TO SERVE   YOU, YOU PLACE YOUR HANDS ON  THE HEARTS, MINDS, SOULS OF OUR COUNTY LEADERS TODAY, AND EVERY DAY MOVING FORWARD. AS THEY  MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY AND   COMMUNITIES. HELP THEM LEAD IN  A WAY THAT EMBODIES THE VICTOR, JESUS CHRIST, WITH STRENGTH,   CONVICTION, EMPATHY, COURAGE,   AND LOVE. IN CHRIST NAME I   PRAY, AMEN.    >> WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK   PASTOR WILEY FOR PROVIDING US   THAT VERY APPROPRIATE   INVOCATION. WE CERTAINLY    WELCOME YOU, YOUR CONGREGATION, AND YOUR FAMILY FOR BEING WITH  US THIS AFTERNOON. AT THIS   TIME, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION   RECOGNIZED IN MELISSA DAWN   HUGHES FROM GOAT HOUSE FARM'S. THE PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE   BY COMMISSIONER CABAN.  SO   THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE THE   PROCLAMATION, WILL YOU JOIN  COMMISSIONER CABAN AT THE  PODIUM?    >> WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM  IS A MICRO GOAT, DAIRY, AND  EDUCATIONAL FARM LOCATED IN   RURAL LEON COUNTY, IN TOLKIEN.  WHERE IS THE  GOAT HOUSE FARM  BEGAN IN THE SUMMER OF 2015   WITH JUST FOUR ACRES OF LAND,   FOR GOATS, AND FOR CHICKENS,  AND WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY  MELISSA DAWN HUGHES, AND   WHEREAS THE GOAT HOUSE FARM   PRIMARY GOALS ARE TO EDUCATE   GOAT OWNERS UNSCIENTIFIC BEST   PRACTICES AND HOLISTIC CARE TO  DEVELOP AND BUILD COMMUNITY   EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS  ON GOAT   HUSBANDRY CENTERED AROUND  COMPASSION, EMPATHY, AND  ENVIRONMENTAL AWARENESS.   INCREASED YOUTH PARTICIPATION   IN DAIRY GOES THROUGH 4H AND   FFA PROGRAMS. TO INCLUDE THE   COMMUNITY WELLNESS THROUGH GOAT -ASSISTED COMMUNITY SERVICES   PICK TO PARTNER WITH  ORGANIZATIONS TO UNLOCK CHAIR   MISSIONS, AND WHEREAS THE GOAT  HOUSE FARM PARTNERS WILL BE ON  THE EXTENSION OFFICE AND AGENT  VALERIE MENDEZ, AND IS HOME TO  THE LEON COUNTY FOR H DAIRY   GOAT PROJECT. AND WHEREAS THE  GOAT HOUSE FARM INC. AND THE  KIDS IN THE 4H PROGRAM  PARTICIPATED IN THE NORTH   FLORIDA SHOWMANSHIP AND FITTING CONTEST, AND WHEREAS EVEN  HARMON, ROSALINA HARMON, IS A  CAROL, AND LILLIAN CABRERA   PLACED FIRST IN THE SHOWMANSHIP AND FITTING CONTEST FOR AGE AND FFA DAIRY GOAT SHOW. THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE  BOARD  OF COMMISSIONERS OF LEON  COUNTY, FLORIDA, WE RECOGNIZE   THE GOAT HOUSE FARM INC. AND  MELISSA DAWN HUGHES FOR HER   COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY,   COMMITMENT TO EDUCATING THE   YOUTH AND GOAT OWNERS, HER   COMPASSION AND CARE FOR THE   ANIMALS, WE EXPRESS OUR  GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR  THE PARTNERSHIP OF LEON COUNTY  FOR H FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES IT  PROVIDES TO KIDS IN OUR   COMMUNITY. DATED THIS 23rd DAY  OF JANUARY, 2024, SIGNED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.     >> SO THESE ARE OUR KIDS THAT   WON THIS YEAR. OUR PROGRAM HAS  GROWN FROM TWO KIDS THE FIRST  YEAR TO 3, 24, AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE 30 KIDS SIGNED UP. SO ON   THE PREMISE THAT IF WE DO NOT  GET MORE YOUTH INVOLVED IN  AGRICULTURE, WE WILL BE IN  TROUBLE IN THE FUTURE. AS WE   ARE SUPER GRATEFUL FOR OUR   YOUTH FOR PARTICIPATING AND FOR BEING PATIENT WITH SOME UNRULY  GOATS THIS YEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.    >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER  CABAN. WE CERTAINLY THANK YOU  FOR ENGAGING OUR YOUTH IN THOSE AGRICULTURE -RELATED   ACTIVITIES. WE ARE PROUD OF   THEIR INVOLVEMENT.  COMMISSIONERS, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MADDOX, WHO   DESIRES TO APPEAR   TELEPHONICALLY. COMMISSIONER  MADDOX, ARE YOU THERE?    >> YES MA'AM, MADAM CHAIR.   >> THANK YOU.  >> I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A  MOTION TO ALLOW HIM TO APPEAR   TELEPHONICALLY. THANK YOU. ALL  THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.  NO OPPOSITION,  I VOTE AYE. THANK YOU VERY   MUCH.  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR,    THE ITEMS TO BE HEARD ON THE   CONSENT AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS.   >> MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE NO   CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. SORRY   ABOUT THAT. WE DO HAVE ONE  ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 17. IT HAS   BEEN TOLD. SO WE HAVE THE   OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. ITEMS   PULLED WERE 8, 9, 13, 14, AND   17. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SPEAKERS  ON ITEMS 17 , WHEN YOU GET TO   THAT AGENDA.  >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONERS ,  WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT AGENDA  ABSENT THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE   BEEN POOLED. MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR, WILL YOU GIVE ME THE NUMBERS AGAIN?  >> 8, 9, 14, 17.   >> OKAY. SO MOVE, EXCLUDING 8,  9,  13, 14, 17. IS THERE A   SECOND? THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY   SAYING AYE. WE VOTE AYE.    >> MADAM, WE DO HAVE A CALLER?  OKAY, AWESOME, THANK YOU.   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I WILL  TURN IT BACK TO YOU.  >> THANK YOU. IN THE ORDER THEY WERE PULLED, WE HAVE ITEM   NUMBER 8, WHICH IS  PROPOSED   REVISIONS TO POLICY NUMBER 96-1 "PURCHASING POLICY". FOLLOWING  THAT, THESE TWO ARE RELATED ,   ITEM NUMBER 9, WHICH ARE   PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE   COUNTY TORAH MS. -- COUNTY  TORAH ROOM SOME EVENT GRANT  PROGRAMS.    >> THANK YOU MR. COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY?  WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS?  >> NOT ON EITHER OF THOSE TWO.    >> COMMISSIONER CABAN?  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I  WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, SO  THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. I WILL MOVE OPTION   NUMBER TWO TO PROPOSED   REVISIONS TO PURCHASING POLICY. >> IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND. DISCUSSION.  >> THANK YOU. I PERSONALLY HAVE MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH THIS   AGENDA ITEM. NUMBER ONE, THERE  ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES BEING   PROPOSED TO THIS POLICY. I DO   NOT THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN   IN CONSENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.  I HAVE TWO STACKS, ONE WAS THE  PREVIOUS POLICY, AND I HAVE THE PROPOSED POLICY, WHICH IS   SOMEWHAT, IF NOT DOUBLE. THE  ANALYSIS IN THE AGENDA ITEM    SAYS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR  THESE CHANGES ARE TO,", TO BE  CONSISTENT WITH INDUSTRY  STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE CITY   OF TALLAHASSEE, AND BLUEPRINT   INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCY. I   PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT COUNTY   POLICY BUILT AROUND ROUP    BLUEPRINT POLICY. IF WE ARE  GOING TO START MIMICKING POLICY THAT IS LAID OUT IN BLUEPRINT  AND TRY TO BRING THEM OVER TO   THE COUNTY, NO. I DO NOT THINK  THAT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. I DO   NOT THINK TAXPAYERS WOULD  APPRECIATE THAT. I AM NOT A FAN OF THAT. TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE POLICY CHANGES, WE GET A   REDLINE COPY TO GO THROUGH,  COMPARE, AND MATCH THE   DIFFERENCES IN CHANGES.  THIS  YEAR WE DID NOT HAVE THAT. WE   WERE TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND   MANUALLY LOOK AT IT AND   HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES. SOME OF  THE PROPOSED POLICIES AND HERE  WERE DOUBLING THE THRESHOLD FOR STAFF SPENDING WITHOUT IT   COMING TO THE BOARD FOR   APPROVAL. I DO NOT THINK THAT   IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. I THINK   THAT WHEN WE HAVE SUCH BIG   POLICY CHANGES, SUCH AS   PURCHASING POLICY, I MEAN, WE  SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO   THE YEAR. THERE ARE BIDDING  PROCESSES IN CERTAIN AVENUES   THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH FOR  GOOD TRANSPARENCY AND   ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING POLICY CHANGES   LIKE THIS, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH  LEEWAY FOR US TO MAKE CHANGES  OR TO OFFER ALTERNATIVES. I  PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS  POLICY SHOULD BE LAID OUT IN A  POLICY WORKSHOP . AND THEN WE  CAN ALL COME TO THE TABLE WITH  A REDLINE, LOOK AT THE CLEAR  CHANGES. SOME OF THE POLICY IN  HERE CLEARLY SAYS WE WILL  INCREASE SPENDING THRESHOLD  FROM $100,000-$250,000. THAT IS A 150% INCREASE. SO I AM NOT   COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I AM   CURIOUS TO SEE IF ANY OTHER   COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY INPUT.   I'M NOT SURE IF I AM THE ONLY  ONE. I AM JUST CURIOUS  TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE  TO SAY.  >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER  CABAN. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS  THAT WANT TO ADDRESS IT?   COMMISSIONER CABAN, MR. COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR?  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WE   WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS THAT THE  BOARD HAS   SPECIFICALLY ON ANY OF THESE IN PARTICULAR. AGAIN, WE VIEW   THESE AS MINOR IN NATURE,  CONFORMING IN NATURE, A  CONSISTENCY-BASED IN NATURE,   VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY WE HAVE ALWAYS HANDLED ITEMS LIKE  THIS. AGAIN, SHOULD THE BOARD   HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF   THIS, I AM HAPPY TO BRING THESE BACK SEPARATELY , ADJUST THEM   AS SEPARATE ISSUES, STANDALONE  ITEMS, IF YOU WILL. OR WE ARE   VERY HAPPY TO ADDRESS EACH AND  EVERY ONE OF THESE GENERALLY  SPEAKING. EACH ONE OF THESE  HAVE A REASON, ISSUE, OR A   CHALLENGE THAT WERE ASSOCIATED  WITH THEM. BUT, AGAIN, WE DO   NOT BRING THEM  TO ONE AT A  TIME OR WHEN EACH OF THOSE   ISSUES COME UP. WE WAIT FOR AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM AS A  WHOLE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY  TO  CLEAN SEVERAL DIFFERENT  THINGS UP AT ONCE. AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY  OF THESE. I THINK YOU WILL FIND THEM TO ALL BE VERY   STRAIGHTFORWARD. AGAIN, WE ARE  PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE  QUESTIONS.   >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR. COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR, WE ARE ON CONSENT   AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. IT HAS   BEEN PULLED. IT INCREASES THE   PURCHASE POWER FROM $100,000 TO 220 THAT -- $250,000.  IT GIVES THE AUTHORITY, I GUESS IS WHAT  IT SAYS.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.  COMMISSIONERS, THIS WAS A BIG  ITEM, A BIG ITEM. PURCHASING   OVER THE YEARS HAS GONE TO   EQUITY. I KNOW THAT FLORIDA IS  NOT A STATE THAT THRIVES ON   TRYING TO PUT THE FLAMES, THE   EMBERS OF EQUITY OUT. THE   PROCUREMENT, WE HAVE GOALS AND  THAT.  THERE ARE THE NUANCES OF WHEN STAFF CAN MAKE PURCHASES.  WE HAVE THOSE THAT QUALIFY. FOR INSTANCE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY   CAN CALL FOR A FIVE ATTORNEYS  TO PICK UP DEBRIS FROM STORMS,  YOU CAN CALL 304 COMPANIES, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO -- I THINK IT IS TIME FOR A WORKSHOP ON  PURCHASING.  IT GOES TO THE   CORE OF WHAT WE DO IN SPENDING  THE DOLLARS FOR THE PUBLIC. AND OF COURSE, OVER THE YEARS, THE  NUMBERS BEAR OUT THAT WE HAVE   CONTINUED TO FAILED TO MEET OUR MARK. IN PURCHASING. IT WAS NOT A THRILL, BUT YEARS AGO, UNDER  MR. KEITH ROBERTS, HE WAS OUR   PURCHASING DIRECTOR, I ASKED   THAT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR   FIRE HIM, AND I AM NOT SURE   ENTIRELY, I DID NOT KNOW, BUT I FELT THAT WE WERE OVER AND  OVER, YEAR AFTER YEAR, MISSING  MINORITY INCLUSION AND   INVOLVEMENT. I FELT WE NEEDED A NEW DIRECTOR THAT COULD   IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES THAT   WERE ON THE BOOK. WE NOW HAVE   CONFLATED MINORITY PURCHASING  LINED  INSIDE THE OFFICE OF THE OEV. WHEN WE USED TO HAVE THE   CITY NUMBERS ON STANDALONE, THE COUNTIES STANDALONE, THIS HAS   BEEN A COMPLETE WASH. AND HOW   WE ARE COUNTING THE NUMBERS,  WHEN YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE  TRIBUTARIES OF CITY  AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT ALL OVER THE SAME  PLOT, GOING TO THE SAME   INSTRUMENT TO ACCOUNT FOR   SOMETHING, THAT IS JUST VERY   HARD TO MAINTAIN TRANSPARENCY   THAT IS ACCURATE AND PRECISE.  REALLY, NOBODY KNOWS. SO I   GUESS WE ALL STAND A LITTLE  TALLER WITH OUR NUMBERS   COMBINED. BUT I AM NOT SURE WHY WE HAVE THIS ISSUE, BUT WHEN I  SAW THIS MATTER, I THOUGHT IT  WAS A VERY BROAD AND BIG MATTER FOR CONSENT. AND TO EXTEND THE  PURCHASING POWER TO $250,000,   IT IS NOT A LOT, BUT IT IS THE  WHOLE STADIUM OF PURCHASING.   AND I THINK OUR NEW COMMISSION  DESERVES TO HAVE AN OVERVIEW,  WE NEED THAT. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION.  >> THERE IS A MOTION ON THE   FLOOR FOR OPTION TO ENTERTAIN   AN AMENDED MOTION TO WORKSHOP   THIS ITEM.  >> MADAM?  >> YES, IT WAS YOUR MOTION.   >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION AS WELL. ON   PAGE 138 OF 1067 IN OUR AGENDA, IT HAS ALL THE PURCHASING   PROCESS THRESHOLDS. SOME ITEMS  ARE 1200 $50,000 THAT ARE   INCREASING. ONE ITEM IN   PROCUREMENT AGREEMENTS WENT   FROM $100,000-$250,000. THERE   ARE DEFINITELY SOME BIG   INCREASES EXCEEDING $25,000 IN  CHANGES. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE  THAT AS WELL. BUT I WILL AMEND  MY MOTION TO NOT ACCEPT THE   PURCHASING POLICY AND SCHEDULE  A WORKSHOP  WHERE WE CAN COME   TOGETHER AS A BOARD AND COME UP WITH POLICY THAT WORKS FOR  EVERYONE.   >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A   SECOND?   >> SECOND.   >> ANY DISCUSSION?    COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE?  >> THANK YOU, I JUST HAVE A   QUESTION. MADAM CHAIR, IN THIS  PURCHASING, SPECIFIC TO THIS   ITEM, PURCHASING POLICY, HAS  ANY NEW DELEGATION BEEN ADDED?  SO A FURTHER DELEGATION TO  LOWER-LEVEL STAFFING   ORGANIZATION IN THIS ITEM?   >> MR. COUNTY COMMISSIONER?  >> THANK YOU. PLEASE?   >> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I?  >> YES.  >> NO NEW DELEGATIONS. OU WILL SEE ON TABLE 2, WHICH IS PAGE   14 OF THE AGENDA ITEM, IT IS   138 OF THE AGENDA PACKAGE,   THOSE WERE EXISTING DELEGATIONS THAT EXIST IN THE CURRENT   PURCHASING POLICY. I BELIEVE  WHAT  COMMISSIONER CABAN IS   REFERRING TO IS THAT SOME OF   THOSE THRESHOLDS THAT   AUTHORIZED THE DELEGATES TO ACT WITHOUT BOARD AUTHORITY IS   PROPOSED TO BE INCREASED. THE   OTHER THING THAT WAS REVIEWED,  AND THIS WAS PART OF A   CONFERENCE OF OVERHAUL IN THIS  POLICY, WHICH IT WAS MOST   RECENTLY TOUCHED TO REMOVE THE  OEV PROVISIONS. BECAUSE AS   COMMISSIONER PROCTOR POINTED   OUT, THESE HAVE BEEN  CONSOLIDATED UNDER OEV FOR SOME PORTIONS. THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE PURCHASING POLICY WERE REVIEWED TO SEE IF THEY MAKE SENSE, IF  THEY WERE EVER UTILIZED, IF   THEY WERE CLEAR, IF THERE HAS  BEEN CONFUSION IN THE PAST   ABOUT WHETHER AN EXCEPTION   APPLIED. SO THAT WAS PART OF   THE REVIEW AND OVERHAUL OF THE  POLICY.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY.   ANYTHING FOR COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER  MATTIX, I KNOW YOU ARE ON THE  PHONE, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU  WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS  ISSUE?   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.   REALLY QUICK, MR. MINNIS  TRADER, YOU GUYS ASKED FOR AN   INCREASE OF A DOUBLE ON THE ONE THRESHOLD. ALSO, I AM IN A   PLACE WHERE I'M GOING TO GO   AHEAD AND ACCEPT THIS POLICY,  AND THEN WE CAN STILL WORKSHOP  IT, BUT I WOULD EXCEPT THE   POLICY AND WORKSHOP IT. BUT I  DO WANT SOME EXPLANATION. I   THINK TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHY DO THRESHOLDS INCREASE SO   MUCH, MR. ADMINISTRATOR.  >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   MATTIX. AGAIN, AND I THINK   COMMISSIONERS HAVE NOTED THIS.  THERE ARE PROBABLY A DOZEN OR   SO CHANGES IN HERE. SOME OF   THEM GO SPECIFICALLY TO   INCREASED COST AND THAT SORT OF THING. ALL OF THESE, YOU SHOULD KNOW, ARE CONSISTENT WITH    PREVIOUS BOARD APPROVED  BUDGETS. THEY ARE ALL DONE IN  THE NATURE OF EXPEDITING THE  REGULAR BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY  SO THAT WE CAN DO THINGS AS   EFFICIENTLY AND QUICKLY AS   POSSIBLE. AGAIN, ALL CONSISTENT WITH BOARD DIRECTION, OF  COURSE, AND PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUDGETS AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THE SPECIFIC ONE THAT YOU   NOTED, COMMISSIONER MATTIX, ON  THE AUTHORITY, I WILL  CONFER   TO MR. MORRIS ON THAT ONE. HE  HAS A BETTER GRASP ON ALL OF   THAT.  >> SURE. I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THE CEILING THRESHOLD, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS   PURCHASING THRESHOLD REMAINS AT $250,000. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE   AGENDA ITEM MATERIALS ARE A LOT OF THE THRESHOLDS FOR, LET'S   SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE  PURCHASING DIRECTOR THERE ,   THOSE THRESHOLDS INCREASE, BUT  OF COURSE, SAY UNDER AND  WITHIN, ULTIMATELY, THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATORS AUTHORITY. WE  SEE SOME CHANGES RELATIVE TO  THE PURCHASING OF USED   EQUIPMENT FOR THE COUNTY, AND  HOW MANY APPRAISALS WE WOULD  NEED TO GET IN THAT PROCESS.   AND THOSE ARE TO REFLECT JUST  CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS AND  WHAT NEEDS TO GO TO THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR VERSUS WHAT CAN   BE APPROVED BY THE PURCHASING   DIRECTOR THERE.    >> THANK YOU.  >> CHAIR, BY ALL MEANS, IF THE  BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SLOW THIS  DOWN AND CONDUCT A WORKSHOP, WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO CONDUCT  A CONFERENCE OF WORKSHOP ON ALL OF THIS AND REMAIN UNDER THE   CURRENT THRESHOLD, IF THAT IS   THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD. THANK  YOU.   >> MADAM CHAIR? IF I'M IN   ORDER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A   SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THIS ITEM  TO BRING IT BACK FOR WORKSHOP.    >> IS THERE A SECOND?    >> COMMISSIONER CABAN, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION?  >> I THINK THAT IS WHAT MY   MOTION WAS ORIGINALLY. NOT  ACCEPTING THE SCHEDULE   WORKSHOP, AND THEN BRING IT  BACK.   >> OKAY. I AM SORRY. I THOUGHT  YOUR MOTION WAS TO REJECT IT.   BUT IT IS TO WORKSHOP IT?   >> YES, MA'AM. THE ALTERNATIVE ONE WAS TO REJECT IT. EITHER  WAY, I SUPPORT COMMISSIONER   MATTIX 'ASK MOTION. ANY   FURTHER DISCUSSION?   >> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THAT,   UNLESS SOMETHING RADICAL HAS   OCCURRED, OUR COUNTY EXPENDS, I WILL STOP AT 95%. 95% OF ALL OF THE COUNTIES DOLLARS IN OUR   BENDING AND CONTRACTING WITH   WHITE, MALE FIRMS. IT IS MORE   DIFFICULT FOR US TO IDENTIFY   IT, BEING THAT THOSE NUMBERS   NOW ARE FUNNELED THROUGH OEV.   AND IN A SENSE , OEV SERVES AS  A, I CANNOT THINK OF THAT WORD. BUT IT IS A WALL THAT BLOCKS   THE TRANSPARENCY, AND IT   PROTECTS EXPOSURE OF THE   ABSENCE OF OUR CLOSING THE GAP  IN EXPENDITURES WITH MINORITY   VENDORS. WE ARE A BORE THAT   HAVE ALLOWED 96% TO 97% OF HER  COUNTIES TAX DOLLARS TO GO TO  WHITE MALES YEAR, AFTER YEAR,   AFTER YEAR. WE DON'T KNOW HOW  TO BREAK THE CYCLE. BUT I THINK THAT A PART OF OUR WORKSHOP   SHOULD BREAKDOWN NOT JUST  PROCUREMENT IS A PROCESS, AND   THE STRATIFICATION OF WHO GETS  TO EXPEND AT WHAT AMOUNT. BUT   WHEN WE DO NOT BRING THE MATTER BACK TO THE BOARD UNTIL IT IS   AT $250,000, BUT EVERYTHING  BEFORE  $249,999, MOST OF OUR  WORKING MINORITY CONTRACT  THERE'S ARE DOING , THEY WOULD NOT BE IN REACH OF $250,000. SO ALL OF THE DECISION-MAKING IS   OCCURRING OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE  OF THIS BOARD. I'M NOT   ACCUSING ANYBODY OF BIAS, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY THE  NUMBERS ARE SO STUBBORN AND NOT EVOLVING FOR THE BENEFIT AND   THE DERI, INCLUSION, THE I PART , IT IS JUST NOT THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS   TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT, NOT   JUST AT WHAT THRESHOLD WHAT  LIEUTENANT, COLONEL, GENERAL,   TITLES LIKE THAT, HOW MUCH THEY CAN SPEND. BUT ALSO, HOW DO WE  GET TO TRACK OLD NUMBERS THAT   WE USED TO HAVE THAT WE DO NOT  SEE ANY MORE, AND INCREASE THE  EXPENDITURES OF MINORITY   VENDORS. ALL OF THAT COMES UP   WHEN I LOOK AT THIS.  >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR. BASICALLY, YOUR   COMMENT, SORRY, IT IS PART OF   THE WORKSHOP, YOU WOULD LIKE AN ANALYSIS OF, I GUESS, THE   EXPENDITURES BELOW THE $250,000 THAT IS PART OF DISCRETIONARY   FUNDING ON THE PART OF THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN THE   PURCHASING DIRECTOR THERE, AND  ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE THAT  AUTHORITY?   >> RIGHT. IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO IN THAT HOW MANY CONTRACTS  AND HOW MUCH SPENDING IS  OCCURRING ON THE $20,000.  HOW  MUCH IS $50,000? HOW MUCH  ACTUALLY GOES OUT OVER   $250,000. I AM NOT SURE WHAT   THE VOLUME LOOKS LIKE. $5000,  DO WE SPEND MORE MONEY BETWEEN  $25,000 AND $30,000? WE DO NOT  KNOW. BUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT   INDEX FOR THIS BOARD TO  OBSERVE. AND IT ALSO WOULD HELP US TO KNOW HOW TO SET WAGES OR  STANDARDS ON THAT RIGHT NOW.  AND WHAT VOLUME AMOUNT AND  FREQUENCY  ARE WE MAKING FOR   THESE CHOICES?   >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR, WE HAVE HEARD  THE COMMENTS AND THAT PART OF   THE WORKSHOP.   >> ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL MAKE  SURE THAT WE HAVE MR. JONES   HERE INVOLVED IN THAT. THE   DECISION WAS MADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO COMBINE OUR PURCHASING  POWER  ALONG WITH OEV, THE CITY OF TALLAHASSEE, AND LEON  COUNTY, SO THAT WE COULD  ADVANTAGE, IN PARTICULAR,  MINORITY BUSINESSES AND AVAIL  THEM TO A WHOLE LOT MORE. WE   BRING TO AN ITEM WHICH SHOWS   OUR SPENDING , COUNTY ONLY, AS  WELL AS CITY, AND BLUEPRINT  EVERY YEAR. JUST FOR THE   RECORD, THE COUNTY EXCEED OUR  DISPARITY STUDY GOALS   CONSISTENTLY. BUT WITH THAT, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE ALL   OF THAT IN THE WORKSHOP.   >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER  COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE?   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. REAL BRIEFLY, I AM GOING TO POSE   THIS. SHOCKER, I DO NOT THINK   WE NEED A WORKSHOP ON THIS. BUT THAT IS ALL.  I JUST WANTED TO  KNOW IF THAT WAS WHY.  >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL OF   THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO WORKSHOP IT WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR IS INDICATING,   LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE . AYE. A POSITION?    >> NAY.   >> THANKS.   >> ITEM NUMBER 909, CHANGES TO  THE  COUNTY TOURISM EVENT GRANT PROGRAMS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO  ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.    >> COMMISSIONER CABAN?  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS POLICY, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT I WISH WOULD HAVE BEEN IN GENERAL BUSINESS AND NOT IN CONSENT.   BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS POLICY, I THINK ABOUT WHERE THIS BOARD  WAS POTENTIALLY 20+ YEARS AGO  WHEN THEY WERE LAYING OUT THE   AGREEMENT, THE BLUEPRINT, AND   DELEGATING AUTHORITY FROM THIS  BOARD TO STAFF. MY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT THE TDT IS  ESSENTIALLY A LOCAL TAX. THIS   POLICY IS BUILT AROUND   ESSENTIALLY GIVING MAJORITY, IF NOT ALL THE POWER AND AUTHORITY OF THIS TAX TO STAFF IN AWAY  FOM THIS BOARD. I DO NOTHING  THAT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. I  THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SAY,  A LOT MORE SAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN FOLKS COME TO APPLICATIONS,  BIDDING, GRANT FUNDING. I THINK THAT IT SHOULD COME BEFORE THIS BOARD. THAT IS MY PERSONAL  OPINION ON THIS. ADDITIONALLY,  THIS POLICY SAYS THAT WE CANNOT USE GRANT FUNDING DURING THE   HOMECOMING OR FSU HOME GAMES. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF EVENTS  AROUND FAMU HOMECOMING AND   FOOTBALL GAMES AS WELL. I THINK THAT THIS POLICY JUST NEEDS   ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. SO I AM   GOING TO MOVE TO NOT ACCEPT  THIS POLICY AND SCHEDULE A  WORKSHOP TO GO THROUGH IT AS   WELL.   >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A   SECOND?   >> I WILL SECOND THAT BECAUSE  OF A COUPLE THINGS HE TOUCHED   ON HERE.    >> IS THERE A DISCUSSION THERE? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.  COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE?   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS ONE, I AM GLAD WE PULLED IT. I  UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BE ABLE  TO MOVE WITH SPEED AND   EFFICIENCY. I WILL JUST NOTE  THAT MY ONLY CONCERN HERE IS   THAT THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE   DELEGATION THE WAY THAT I READ  IT. SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED   FOR DELEGATION, AND I AM HAPPY  DELEGATING TO THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR. BUT IF WE BRING  BACK A REVISION IN A WORKSHOP,  I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A   LIMIT SO THAT IT IS SOMETHING   TO THE EXTENT OF DELEGATE TO  THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR  OR A  STAFF MEMBER DIRECTLY REPORTING TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SO  THAT WE DO NOT FIND OUT THAT WE HAVE DELEGATED DOWN, DOWN,   DOWN, SO THAT THE STAFF   ACCOUNTANT IS SIGNING CONTRACTS OR SOMETHING. THAT IS ALL,  THANK YOU.   >> WE ARE NOT READY, COUNTY   ADMINISTERED HER. MY   UNDERSTANDING WAS THE $250,000  , CAN YOU WEIGH IN?  >> YES, MA'AM. IF THE BOARD  WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANY OF   THESE IN PARTICULAR, THIS IS   ALL CONSISTENT WITH  APPROVED   BUDGETS OF THE BOARD. SO YOU  MAY HAVE AN EVENT, FOR EXAMPLE, A CROSS-COUNTRY EVENT. WE HAVE  BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD, THE   BUDGET TO THE BOARD, ALL THE  MAJOR CONTRACTS THAT KIND OF   THING. YOU MAY HAVE AN ISSUE   WHERE AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE  EVENT, YOU MAY NEED CONTRACTS   WITH FOOD TRUCKS OR FOOD   VENDORS. TO SAVE TIME, AS LONG  AS IT IS WITHIN THE BUDGET,   THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE  TO DELEGATE THAT TO A DIRECTOR  OF TOURISM. I HEAR WHAT  COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE IS SAYING ABOUT THE LEVEL OF DELEGATION,  THAT IS GENERALLY WHERE I STOP. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR CLARITY AROUND THAT.  BUT,   AGAIN, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE A CLOSER LOOK  AT, WE ARE HAPPY TO BRING THAT  BACK AND GO INTO AN EXHAUSTIVE  REVIEW OF WHY WE BELIEVE ALL   THESE THINGS ARE NECESSARY AND  IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE   COUNTY.   >> THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR? COMMISSIONERS?  OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR ARE?   >> I LOOKED AT, WHAT IS THIS?   2.4, PAGE SEVEN, 220 OF 1067.   IT ACTUALLY SAID THAT GRANT  FUNDING WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED  FOR EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED   DURING PEAK VISITOR PERIOD.   THOSE WHO BALL GAME WEEKENDS,   THEY ARE ANTICIPATED TO FILL  EXISTING HOTEL ROOM INVENTORY.  FAMU HOMECOMING WEEKENDS, THE  SPRING AND FALL GRADUATION   WEEKENDS, AND MONDAY THROUGH   THURSDAY DURING THE REGULAR   STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THOSE   PERIODS OF PEOPLE GETTING, WHAT IS THE WORD? PRICE GOUGED.   THESE ARE THE WEEKENDS THAT WE  DO IT TO PEOPLE. IF THERE IS A  TIME THAT WE SHOULD OFFSET COST AND OVERHEAD, THESE ARE THE  MOMENTS WHEN YOU NEED IT.  BECAUSE SOME OF THESE HOTELS   AROUND THESE GRADUATION   PERIODS, IT IS UNMERCIFUL. I  THINK THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT   COUNCIL, ME SERVING ON THEIR, I THINK THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT  COUNCIL DOES A GREAT JOB. AND   IF ANYTHING, THERE ARE TOO MANY EXTERNAL INFLUENCES AND   INFLUENCERS THAT SPEAK TO THE   RESOURCES, WAS THE TOURISM  DEVELOPED COUNSEL HAS VOTED.   AND IT HAS NOT BEEN JUST A   SINGULAR OCCASION THAT OUR   COUNTY HAS ASKED THE TOURISM   DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THIS OR THAT. COCA HAS SOME  INTERACTION, AND I DO NOT HAVE  ENOUGH DEMAND TO ARTICULATE   THEIR PROCESSES. BUT THE  TOURISM DEVELOPMENT PAYS FOR A  LOT OF THINGS THAT IS NOT JUST  REGULAR UNDER THEIR BANNER. SO  I RECOGNIZE IT THAT THEY PICK   UP THE TAB ON A LOT OF STUFF.   BUT POSTURING THIS PERIOD AS A  BLACKOUT PERIOD, I DISAGREE   WITH. I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT. I SERVE ON THE TOURIST   DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. WE CANNOT  GET THIS COUNTY COMMISSION, WE  CANNOT GET THE CITIES   COMMISSION. WE CANNOT GET   FLORIDA STATE NOR FLORIDA   UNIVERSITY TO RAISE THEIR WEAK  VOICES WITH RESPECT TO PRICE   GOUGING OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS.  I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND I DO NOT KNOW WHY PRICES   QUADRUPLE AND TRIPLE AROUND   THESE PARTICULAR EVENTS. BUT I  FEEL AS IF WE ARE CONSPIRING   WITH THIS POLICY, WITH THE   PRICE GOUGERS AND TO TELL  YEARS, WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF   THE PARENT, THE FAMILIES, THE   ASSOCIATES, THE FRIENDS, THE   ALUMNI, THE ALUMNI THAT COME  BACK TO TALLAHASSEE DURING THIS PERIOD. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE A CO-CONSPIRATOR WITH GOUGING  THE SUPPORT SYSTEM OF LEON  COUNTY.    >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR. COMMISSIONER MADDOX?  >> YES, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIR.   THANK YOU FOR CALLING ON ME.  SO, HERE AGAIN, I DO NOT SEE A  WHOLE BUNCH OF PROBLEM WITH   THIS. IF THE BOARD WANTS YOU   WORKSHOP IT, I AM NOT OPPOSED   TO THAT. I DO NOT WANT TO  REJECT THE POLICY, THE POLICY   AND WORKSHOP AS BEING A   STARTING POINT, SO I WOULD MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE   ACCEPT THE POLICIES. THANK YOU.    >> I WILL SECOND.   >> OKAY, THANK YOU.  WE HAVE   MISS KERRY POST HERE. I THINK   THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WOULD  LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.     >> MADAM CHAIR, DID MY MOTION  GET NO SECOND?  >> IT WAS SECONDED BY   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE.   >> OKAY, THANK YOU.   >> WE ARE IN DISCUSSION NOW.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I   DID WANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL   INSIGHT INTO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE BLACKOUT DATES SO THAT   THERE IS SOME UNDERSTANDING.   THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL APPROVES THE GUIDELINES AND   BLACKOUT DATES EVERY YEAR. AND  WHAT THIS SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO IS OUR TOURISM EVENT GRANT   PROGRAM. AND WHAT THAT DOES,   ESSENTIALLY, AGAIN, LOOKING AT  ROI, IT IS LIKE YOU ARE   SPENDING MONEY TO PROMOTE   EVENTS, YET YOU HAVE NO   CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL FOLKS   TO COME INTO THE MARKET. SO   WHEN YOU'RE HOTELS ARE FULL,   YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE   SUPPORTING EVENTS WHERE ALL WE  ARE DOING IS HELPING THEM,   STAY. IT IS OUTSIDE THE MARKETS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO MORE   CAPACITY. ON THE MIAMI GAME,   YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE AT   CAPACITY, THE TD T  HAS   RECOGNIZED TO BLACKOUT THESE   DATES TO THE EXTENT TO SAY, WHY FUND OTHER EVENTS IN THE MARKET AT THE SAME TIME? LITERALLY ON  THE SAME WEEKEND. YOU ARE   BASICALLY PLOPPING THEM ON TOP  OF EACH OTHER WHEN YOU DO NOT   HAVE THE CAPACITY TO   ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL FOLKS IN THE MARKET. SO THAT IS WHY THE  BLACKOUT DATES ARE THERE. I   HEARD SOME COMMENTS EARLIER   ABOUT THERE ARE SOME EVENTS   THAT TAKE PLACE ON HOMECOMING   OR, YOU KNOW, FAMILY RISING,   FOR EXAMPLE.  WE ARE MARKETING  PARTNERSHIPS WITH THEM AND WITH THE GET DOWN. WE KNOW IT HELPS  VISIBILITY, BUT NOT IN THE  GRANT EVENT DOLLARS. THIS   SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO EVENTS COMING TO THE  TDC REQUESTING  FUNDING FOR EVENTS THAT THEY   WANT TO HOLD ON SPECIFIC  WEEKENDS. AGAIN, IF WE ARE  ALREADY SOLD OUT THAT WEEKEND,  THAT IS WHY THE TDC PUT THIS IN PLACE TO SAY, SHIFT TO ANOTHER  WEEKEND WHEN WE NEED THE  BUSINESS AND CAN ACCOMMODATE   THE BUSINESS.   >> THANK YOU. DO COMMISSIONERS  HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOLKS?   >> I WILL ASK ONE, AND THIS IS  HYPOTHETICAL. SO THE FRENCHTOWN RISING EVENT PUTS TOGETHER A   BIG PLATFORM FOR ALUMNI,  FRIENDS, SUPPORTERS. THEY ARE  NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING DURING THE FOOTBALL SEASON. I'M JUST  USING ONE EXAMPLE   HYPOTHETICALLY.   >> AS IS IN THE TOURISM EVENT   GRANT PROGRAM, THAT IS CORRECT. USING THE FRENCHTOWN RISING   EVENT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE PROVIDE SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS TO THE  ORGANIZATION. IT IS OUTSIDE THE GRANT PROGRAM, BECAUSE THE  GRANT PROGRAM IS SPECIFICALLY,  THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT  PROGRAMS IS TO GENERATE DESIRE  IN A DESTINATION.  WHEREAS   FRENCHTOWN RISING EVENT IS  ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, IT IS A   GREAT EVENT, BUT IT DOES NOT   FIT IN THE GRANT PROGRAM. IS   THAT WE PROVIDE SPONSORSHIP   DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THAT EVENT,  BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE WHAT AN   IMPORTANT EVENT IT IS IN THE   MARKETS, BUT IT IS JUST NOT   SUITABLE FOR THE TOURISM EVENT  GRANT PROGRAM, THAT IS BASED   UPON -- REGENERATION.   >> THAT IS AN IMPORTANT   DISTINCTION AND THE  LINEARIZATION FOR ME. BUT TO   THE EXTENT THAT I BELIEVE THE   COUNTY COMMISSION SHOULD NOT   ALL LOOK OVER THE SHOULDER OF   THE TDC, I AM NOT AS STRONGLY  COMPELLED THAT THE LORD SHOWED  PAST TWO, AS I THINK THE  COMMISSION ONCE YOU GAIN A   SENSE TO INTERACT WITH THE   PROCESSES. BUT NEVERTHELESS, I  AM OPEN TO ALL OF US LEARNING   ABOUT THE PROCESSES OF A VERY   IMPORTANT INSTRUMENT. I AM SURE THAT KERRY IS WIDE OPEN. YOU   ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB. I READ THE MAGAZINE LAST NIGHT  THAT YOU ALL SHARED WITH US.   AND IT REALLY WHET MY APPETITE. THAT IS A GREAT MAGAZINE THAT   YOU PUT OUT AND SHARED WITH US  YESTERDAY. BUT I AM OPEN TO THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, I   APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT I HAVE  MISREAD THE MEASURE IN PART TO  IT SHUTTING OUT LOCAL VENDORS   WHO ARE SPONSORING AND DOING   THINGS, BUT THAT THERE IS A   SPONSORSHIP CATEGORY. SO THAT  CLEARS UP SOME STUFF. I WISH   YOU HAD PUT THIS IN THE NOTES   AND I WOULD NOT HAVE THIS  ATTITUDE.  [ LAUGHTER ]  >> COMMISSIONER MINOR?  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.  YEARS AGO, I WAS PART OF A  GROUP THAT FORMED TALLAHASSEE   MUSIC WEEK. DURING THAT TIME,  WE GOT A FIRST RATE EDUCATION   ON THE TOURISM INDUSTRY  HERE   LOCALLY. THAT IS WHEN I FIRST   GOT A CHANCE TO WORK WITH YOU,  CARRIE. AT THAT TIME, I LEARNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNEW   THIS PART, OUR TOURISM PEAKS   DURING THE OFF-SEASON AND   DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. IT IS A HUGE PEAK. AND FOR THE  REST OF THE YEAR, FOR A LARGE   PART, IT IS A BIG VALLEY. A BIG PART OF WHAT CARRIE AND HER  TEAM ARE TRYING TO DO AS WELL,  ANYONE FOCUSED ON ENHANCING   TOURISM IS TO TRY TO FILL IN  THOSE VALLEYS. RIGHT? SO THAT   IS WHAT THIS GRANT IS ALL   ABOUT. I SHARE YOUR CONCERN   REGARDING HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT   FRENCHTOWN RISING AND SOME   OTHER EVENTS. BUT BECAUSE OF   THE SPONSORSHIP, I THINK IT IS  A SMART APPROACH. WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THIS GRANT IS   ENCOURAGED FRENCHTOWN,  PROVIDENCE, OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TO POSTEVENT AND APPLY FOR  GRANT FUNDING DURING THAT    VALLEY PERIOD. BECAUSE THE BEST AND EASIEST WAY FOR US TO   MAXIMIZE OUR TOURISM REVENUE IS TO FILL IN THOSE VALLEYS. THAT  IS WHAT THIS GRANT IS DESIGNED  TO DO.  DOES THAT CORROBORATE   WITH WHAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS   ON THIS?   >> THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN WE ARE LOOKING FOR BUSINESS THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR, THAT IS   EXACTLY WHEN WE WANT TO HELP   INCENTIVIZE AND STIMULATE  EVENTS.    >> ANOTHER REASON, OUR  RESTAURANTS STAFF UP DURING OUR PEAKS. OFTEN, THEY THEN HAVE TO LET EMPLOYEES GO DURING THE  VALLEYS. AND WHEN THE NEXT PEAK COMES ALONG, THEY HAVE TO HIRE  NEW PEOPLE, RETRAIN THEM, AND   IT IS INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE AND  INEFFICIENT. IF WE COULD BRING  TOURISM DOLLARS DURING THOSE  LOW., WE CAN HAVE MORE BUSINESS AND  OTHER BUSINESSES HAVE  SUSTAINED EMPLOYEE WORKFORCES.  THAT IS BETTER FOR THE   EMPLOYEE, BUT FOR THE BUSINESS, BUT ARE FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.  THIS IS A GOOD, SMART,   STRATEGIC APPROACH FOR THE   GRANT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.    >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER  MINOR. I DO APPRECIATE THAT  THERE ARE CERTAIN CATEGORIES  YOU ALL LOOK AT FOR EVENTS. IN  THE CITY, IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE   DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR, LOCATION, WHAT HAVE  YOU. IT IS NOT LIKE A ONE-STOP  SHOP. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE   DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND SEE   WHAT IS APPLICABLE AND WHAT IS  NOT, WHO IS ELIGIBLE AND WHO IS NOT. SO, THANK YOU GUYS FOR A  GREAT JOB. WE HAVE A MOTION ON  THE FLOOR. COMMISSIONER MADDOX, I BELIEVE YOU MADE A MOTION,   YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, I BELIEVE. YOU MADE  THE MOTION TO, I BELIEVE,    ACCEPT THE POLICY, AND IT WAS   SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE. THAT WAS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE   SURE THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CABAN. YOU   HAVE A COMMENT?   >> YES MA'AM, I DO. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WILL NOT   SUBSTITUTE THE SUBSTITUTE   MOTION. I THINK WE ARE BEING   INCONSISTENT AS A BOARD IF WE  VOTE FOR THAT MOTION, JUST ON   THE PRIOR AGENDA ITEM. WE DID   NOT APPROVE IT. WE VOTED TO   HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS IT  AND THEN COME BACK TO IT. I  THINK THAT IF WE ACCEPT THIS   RIGHT NOW  WITH THE CHANGES IN  THE WORKSHOP, WE ARE BEING   INCONSISTENT. I HEAR WHAT   COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE WAS   SAYING ABOUT THE DELEGATION. I  UNDERSTAND THAT VERY   THOROUGHLY. IN MY BUSINESSES,   THERE ARE A LOT OF TASKS THAT  WE DELEGATE, BUT I THINK IT IS  HEALTHY FOR TAXPAYERS AND   CONSTITUENTS TO HAVE A LAYER OF COMFORT . I UNDERSTAND THAT   WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS, THERE MAY  BE A FOOD TRUCK, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE THRESHOLD. I DO NOT   THINK WE ARE HIRING $250,000   WORTH OF FOOD TRUCKS. I   APPRECIATE WHERE WE ARE COMING  FROM , BUT I THINK WE ARE BEING INCONSISTENT RIGHT NOW.   >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER  CABAN. BECAUSE THE INITIAL   MOTION WAS TO WORKSHOP IT, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN. IS THAT  CORRECT? PLEASE SUBSTITUTE NOW  IS TO APPROVE IT AND THEN  WORKSHOP IT. SO I UNDERSTAND   COMMISSIONER CABAN'S CONCERN.    >> NO, THAT MOTION, THAT MOTION WAS JUST TO APPROVE THE POLICY. >> I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER   MADDOX, WILLIE REPEAT?   >> YES, THAT WAS JUST TO   APPROVE THE POLICY, THERE WAS A WORKSHOP ON IT.  >> OKAY, TO APPROVE THE POLICY, NO WORKSHOP. ANY FURTHER   DISCUSSION BRIEFLY?   >> MADAM CHAIR, I BRIEFLY WANT  TO SAY THAT KERRY KNOWS THAT I  FAILED THIS YEAR DURING A PRICE GOUGING AT THE TDC, I FAILED   THIS YEAR TO BRING UP PRICE   GOUGING HERE AT THE BOARD OF   COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AND THE   REASON THAT I FELT I WAS NOT   GOING TO GET ANY TRACTION THIS  YEAR WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THE   NUMBER FOUR TEAM IN THE UNITED  STATES, AND WE HAD A TEAM AND  ROUTE BECOMING A NATIONAL  CHAMPION. YOU'VE GOT TWO TEAMS WITH A RECORD 25-2, THEY   COULD'VE CHARGED $2000 A NIGHT THIS YEAR. AND SO I KNEW THAT   IF NOBODY WAS GOING TO LISTEN  OR PAY ATTENTION. I STILL THINK THAT NOTWITHSTANDING, WINNING   DOES MAKE UP, BUT I STILL THINK QUADRUPLING THE PRICES OF A   ROOM IS A BIT MUCH FOR  GRADUATIONS AND ALL OF THAT. I  DON'T KNOW WHERE WE START. IT  IS SOMETHING TO NOTE THAT JUST  MORALLY, IT IS NOT RIGHT.   PEOPLE WHOSE CHILDREN ARE IN   THESE EVENTS, THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY,   MANY OF THEM, MOST OF THEM.  THAT IS WHY I REMAINED SILENT,  BECAUSE IT JUST FELT LIKE I WAS WASTING BREATH.   >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? LET ME JUST   SAY, I HAVE READ THIS POLICY.   I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ON  ALL THE WORKS THAT THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR HAS HAD ON IT.   BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT   IT. COMMISSIONER CABAN, BECAUSE IT DOES LOOK AT VARIOUS EVENTS  THAT WILL HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND WE HAVE CLEAR   DIRECTION ON WHAT IS   PERMISSIBLE, WHAT IS NOT. IT IS NOT EXCLUSIONARY. AND EVEN   KNOWING PERSONALLY THAT THEY  SUPPORT A CERTAIN EVENT IN THE  COMMUNITY, IT DOES NOT GIVE ME  ANY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH WHAT WE HAD BEFORE. SO I WOULD BE   SUPPORTING COMMISSIONER MADDOX  'ASK  MOTION TO APPROVE THIS   POLICY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER  COMMENTS, THE MOTION ON THE  FLOOR IS TO APPROVE THE POLICY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE  KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY   OPPOSITION? THANK YOU. THANK  YOU SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTERED A?   >> THINK YOU COULD THE NEXT   ITEM POOLED WAS PULLED BY   COMMISSIONER MINOR ON ITEM  NUMBER 13. THE REVERSE IS  AGREEMENT BETWEEN FLORIDA GULF  AND ATLANTA RAILROAD LLC FOR  THE  CROSSINGS.   >> THANK YOU. I LIVED FOR A   SHORT TIME OFF OF TOWER ROAD.   BACK THEN, THIS RAILROAD   CROSSING WAS IN BAD SHAPE, BUT  IT HAS GOTTEN MUCH WORSE   RECENTLY. AND SO I JUST WANTED  TO PULL THIS ITEM TO THINK THE  COUNTY , TO THINK FLORIDA GULF  AND ATLANTIC RAILROAD TO  ADDRESS THIS. IT IS A GOOD  EXAMPLE OF SEEING NEEDS FROM   THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TO   DRIVE OVER THAT RAILROAD   CROSSING. AND IT IS TO THE   POINT WHERE I BELIEVE IT COULD  DAMAGE VEHICLES. SO IT REALLY   IS NECESSARY. I JUST WANT TO   THANK THE COUNTY, THINK THE   PHOTOGRAPH AND ATLANTIC   RAILROAD FOR MAKING THIS   AGREEMENT AND GETTING THE WORK  DONE. I MOVED TO APPROVE OPTION ONE.   >> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION?   ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE   KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. ANY   OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER  MADDOCK?    >> AYE.   >> THANK YOU, AND I VOTE AYE.   IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK  YOU SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR?  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.   NUMBER 14, EIGHT  RATIFICATION  OF THE JOINT PROJECT AGREEMENT  BETWEEN LEON COUNTY AND  BLUEPRINT INTERGOVERNMENTAL   AGENCY FOR THE MAGNOLIA DRIVE  MULTIUSE TRAIL PROJECT. IT  AMEND THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT TO ALLOW A BLUEPRINT TO FINISH  UP THAT CONTRACT WORK. THERE  ARE NO ADDITIONAL CHANGING OF   TERMS, OTHER THAN THAT WHICH   HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED  BY THE BOARD. HAPPY TO ANSWER  ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.  >> THANK YOU.  >>  COMMISSIONER LONG?  >> THANK YOU. I WAS CURIOUS  ABOUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN A SIDEWALK AND MULTIUSE TRAIL  PROJECT. WHAT IS THE  DISTINCTION?    >> IT IS WIDER. IT WOULD ALLOW  THE MULTIVEHICLE TO USE IT.   LIKE BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS.    >> THIS IS FOR MAGNOLIA, FROM   GREENWAY ROAD?   >> IT WILL BE FROM PONTIAC   DRIVE, THEN TO DIAMOND.   >> OKAY. THAT PART, WE APPROVED THIS PROJECT, I BELIEVE ON THE  SAME DAY OR THE SAME NIGHT, AT  THE SAME TIME AND THE MAGNOLIA  SIDEWALK PROJECT. FROM MUNRO TO PONTIAC, IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED  NOW FOR POSSIBLY TWO YEARS. AND ON THE SAME ROAD, WITH THE SAME VOTE, THE SAME PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT, AND WHAT HINDERED THE   COMPLETION OF MAGNOLIA DRIVES  SIDEWALK?    >> WE NEED TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY FIRST. NOW THEY HAVE   ORDERED ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIRES SO THAT WE CAN START   DOING CONSTRUCTION. BUT THE  NEXT PHASE, FROM PONTIAC DRIVE  IN DIAMOND DRIVE , WE ARE GOING TO BRING AN ITEM TO THE BOARD  FOR THE BILL OF CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY.   >> OKAY.   >> ON THE ENGINEERING PART.  WHEN YOU GET TO GENERALLY,  WOULD YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE  OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD? YOU   KNOW WHEN YOU CROSS  GENLEE   COME ACROSS THE ROAD, THERE IS  A DIP .   >> YES. THERE WOULD BE A NEW  SIGNAL AT GENLEE . IT WOULD   SIGNALIZED THAT INTERSECTION AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.   >> NO EQUITY, I AM THINKING IN  EQUITY. A MULTI USE TRAIL. IS  THAT WHAT IS CURRENTLY   AVAILABLE ON MAGNOLIA? OR IS  THAT JUST A SIDEWALK?    >> THAT IS THE MAGNOLIA TRAIL   RIGHT NOW. THAT PART IS  COMPLETED.   >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE SAME STUFF  GOING NORTH?   >> EAST AND THEN NORTH. YES.   >> OKAY. I AM CURIOUS. IS THERE A STARTING TIME OR COMPLETION   EXPECTATION?  >> SORRY, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW  I AM TALKING IN HER DISTRICT   RIGHT NOW. BUT WE HAVE BEEN  LABORING WITH THIS PARTNER   FOREVER.   >> THEY ARE ALL OUR   CONSTITUENTS. YOU GO RIGHT   AHEAD.   >> IF THE BOARD AWARDED THE BID IN FEBRUARY FOR THE TRAIL FROM  PONTIAC DRIVE TO DIAMOND IN  FEBRUARY , WE BELIEVE THAT  MAYBE IN SIX WEEKS, WE CAN   START CONSTRUCTION. IT DEPENDS  ON THE CONTRACT THERE AND THE  NEED TO ORDER MATERIALS.   ANTICIPATING THE DURATION IS  NINE MONTHS.   >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS, IT HAS BEEN, COMPLETING THIS   HAS JUST BEEN AMAZINGLY HARD.  AND THAT FIRST LEG HAS BEEN A   TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT THERE ON MAGNOLIA. IT IS JUST THAT I  HAVE BEEN PERPLEXED BY  WHY IT  STOPPED. WE HAVE ALREADY  APPROVED THIS. NOW WE HAVE TO   COME BACK. THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATORS OF THE TERMS ARE ALL THE SAME AND WE ARE NOT   LOSING MONEY, WE ARE SPENDING   MORE TO COMPLETE IT. BUT GOD   KNOWS IT IS BADLY NEEDED. I AM  SALUTING THE TAKEOFF AND   COMPLETION TIME. WHAT WAS  COMPLETION AGAIN?  >> NINE MONTHS.   >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER   PROCTOR. THANK YOU, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.  DO ANY OTHER  COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE?  >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND   COMMISSIONER PROCTOR. YOU WERE  RIGHT ON. I AM GLAD TO HEAR SIX WEEKS +9 MONTHS. I AM EXCITED  FOR IT, I WILL BE DOWN THERE   WITH COMMISSIONER PROCTOR   GETTING MY STEPS IN ONCE IT IS  OPEN. AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT  OUR NEIGHBORS ARE VERY EXCITED  ABOUT THIS. WHEN I WENT   KNOCKING DOORS LAST YEAR, NO   OFFENSE TO THE COUNTY  COMMISSION, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT  WE DO EXCEPT FOR TWO THINGS.  THE THING THAT SHALL BE  UNNAMED, AND THE SIDEWALK. THIS IS SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE BEEN   WAITING FOR A LONG TIME, SO  THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU FOR THOSE  COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO   ACCEPT --  >> I MOVE FOR THE STAFF'S  RECOMMENDATION.  >> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. STAFF   RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE   DISCUSSION?  HEARING NONE, ALL  THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.   >> THANK YOU. I VOTE AYE. ITEM  NUMBER 14 IS ACCEPTED. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR, BACK TO YOU.   >> THE FINAL CONSENT ITEM   PULLED IS ITEM NUMBER 17.  THIS IS A REVISED ENABLING   RESOLUTION FOR THE MICCOSUKEE   CANOPY ROAD GREENWAY CITIZENS   COMMITTEE. YOU MAY RECALL THAT  YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THIS AS A FOCUS GROUP. HOWEVER,  THINGS COME IN TERMS OF THE NATURE OF  THE WORK WE ARE DOING, REQUIRED HER TO BECOME A DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE, WHICH SETS OFF  ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN THE   REVISED RESOLUTION THAT IS   BEFORE YOU. AGAIN, HAPPY TO  ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT  HAVE ON THIS ITEM. WE DO HAVE,  AS A NOTICED, IF YOU SPEAKER   CARDS.   >> THANK YOU. THE FIRST   SPEAKER, SUE NUNEZ.  >> THANK YOU.   >> MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS , AS A MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS   COMMITTEE FOR THE McKISSICK HE  GREENWAY, I AM CONFUSED ABOUT   THE NEED TO CHANGE THE ROLE OF  THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF  AS IT PERTAINS TO THE OPERATION OF THIS COMMITTEE. I SERVED ON  THE FOR THE RECREATIONAL TRAILS COUNCIL, THE FLORIDA GREENWAYS  COUNCIL, THE GREENWAYS  COORDINATING COUNCIL, AND OTHER STATEWIDE ORGANIZATIONS. THE  ONES THAT OPERATED VIA A   CITIZENS CHAIR, NOT PART OF THE GOVERNING BODY, AND A BETTER   ENVIRONMENT TO FOCUS ON THE   ISSUES AT HAND. IT IS SORT OF   LIKE BEING SUBJECT TO FEELING   LIKE YOU ARE BACK IN SCHOOL TO  LEARN FROM A TEACHER. IT  ALLOWED EACH MEMBER TO USE   THEIR EXPERTISE AND CREATIVITY  TO THE FULLEST, FOR THE GOOD OF THE PURPOSE AT HAND. YOUR   COMMISSION POLICY 3 E- 15 LISTS  STAFF RESPONSIBILITIES FOR  COMMITTEES. ONE OF THEM IS TO   ENSURE THE COMMITTEE ELECTS A  CHAIR. YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE   THIS RESPONSIBILITY AWAY FROM  THE COMMITTEE AND PUT IT IN THE POSITION OF BEING A STUDENT. I  REQUEST THAT YOU ALLOW THIS   COMMITTEE TO ELECT WHO THEY   WANT AS CHAIR, RATHER THAN THE  COUNTY DOING SO. THIS GREENWAY  WILL BECOME MORE OF A HAVEN FOR ALL OF NATURE WITH THE  DEVELOPMENT AND ROADS THAT ARE  COMING. THAT ARE ALREADY  BEGINNING TO EFFECT IT. THE   MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE ARE  EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS  AND   DESERVE TO GIVE THIS GREENWAY  THE BEST CHANCE TO SUCCEED.   PLEASE REJECT THIS RESOLUTION  AND LET US DO OUR JOB WITH THE  HELP OF YOUR STAFF. THANK YOU.    >> THANK YOU.   >> NEXT SPEAKER, ROBERT  LOMBARDI.    >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MISS CHAIR   AND MEMBERS. I HAVE BEEN THE  PRESIDENT OF THE MICCOSUKEE    CANOPY ROADS GREENWAY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. IN A VOLUNTEER, A  LEON COUNTY VOLUNTEER FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN HERE   BEFORE AND TALK TO YOU BEFORE.  THE MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROAD   GREENWAY IS  A STATE PARK, 500  ACRES THAT WAS GIVEN, ACTUALLY  GIVEN, TO LEON COUNTY TO MANAGE BACK IN 2003, I BELIEVE. THE   MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE   McKISSICK HE GREENWAY IN THE  CITIZENS COMMITTEE IS THE ISSUE THAT YOU ARE NOW DEALING WITH , WITH THIS RESOLUTION. OUR   PUBLIC PARKS AND THE EXPERIENCE UNPRECEDENTED RECREATIONAL USE  ANY NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS, AS NEW HOMES SURROUND THE McKISSICK HE GREENWAY, THE NEXT MANAGEMENT   PLAN MUST ADDRESS THESE  MANAGEMENT CHALLENGES WITH THE  BEST LAND MANAGEMENT EXPERTS  FAMILIAR WITH THE GREENWAY.  MOST OF THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS  NOW , AND THEY LIVE IN LEON  COUNTY. FRIENDS OF THE  MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROAD   GREENWAYS ARE A NETWORK OF  THOSE VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE BEEN  WORKING SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH YOUR  STAFF AND LEON COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION FOR 25 YEARS. OUR  PARTNERS INCLUDE THE SCIENTISTS THAT KNOW THIS PROPERTY AND   KNOW THE FEATURES MOST LIKELY  TO SUFFER, OR TO THRIVE WHEN   RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TAKES   UP MORE OF OUR OPEN SPACE.    COLLABORATING WITH THESE  SCIENTISTS, I AM NOT TALKING   ABOUT SOME ROCKET SCIENTIST,   I'M TALKING A BIOLOGIST WHO   WORK OUT IN THE FIELD, SCRUB  AROUND IN THE DIRT, LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT MIGHT BE SAVABLE,   BUT ALSO LAND MANAGEMENT, LAND  MANAGERS, FARMERS, EQUESTRIANS, TRAIL EXPERTS, PLANNERS, LOCAL  GOVERNMENT STAFF. ALL OF THESE  HAVE HELPED US PROTECT WHAT WE  CAN, AND TO MINIMIZE DAMAGE  WHEN WE CANNOT.  THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS WRITTEN IN 2013 . AND  IT BECAME OUR WISH LIST,   REALLY, FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.  THOSE 10 YEARS ARE NOW UP . NOW WE FACE A TEN-YEAR FUTURE THAT  IS QUITE DIFFERENT. THE NEW   PLAN WILL BE REALISTIC, IT WILL BE MATCHING RESOURCES OF YOURS  WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS TO COME UP  WITH GOALS ABOUT EVALUATING THE BEST PRACTICES THAT ADDRESS THE PRESSURE OF MORE PEOPLE AND   MORE MAINTENANCE. OUR   VOLUNTEERS WORKING IN THE   FIELD, AS WE DO OFTEN, TRIMMING TRAILS FROM HORSEBACK OR WHILE  WALKING , THIS IS OUR CONCEPT  OF VOLUNTEERING. WE DO NOT SIT  AROUND AND TALK ABOUT THINGS,   WE GO OUT AND FIX THINGS.    ADDRESSING THE PRESSURES OF  RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL   DEVELOPMENT WILL BE THE  CHALLENGE OF OUR NEAR FUTURE. I THINK YOU KNOW THAT VERY WELL.  THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO CREATE  A MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT   MINIMIZES THIS CHALLENGE. THIS  IS THE TIME TO MEET THAT   CHALLENGE. WITH WELL DESIGNED  PLANS  TO DRAW THE NEAR FUTURE, EXPAND OUR NETWORK OF   INTERESTED VOLUNTEERS TO GET   THE WORK DONE. I AM A LITTLE   OVER, I AM SORRY. TODAY'S   RESOLUTION FALLS SHORT OF THIS  CHALLENGE. THREE THINGS THAT I  WANT TO POINT OUT. THE FUTURE  PLAN MUST DIRECTLY RELATE TO   THE CHALLENGES WE FACE, NOT   JUST THINGS WE WANT TO FIX  BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW. EXPERTS  CAN ADVISE US ON WHICH   APPROACHES ARE NEEDED IN AREAS  FROM REPAIRS TO MULTI USE   TRAILS TO GOING STRATEGIES  OF  THE USERS. THESE ARE PEOPLE  THAT ARE WALKING, BABY  CARRIAGES THAT ARE TRYING TO   MAKE IT ACROSS OUR TRAIL   SYSTEMS, DODGING TRAFFIC AT OUR CROSSINGS. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CREATE THE PUBLIC PURPOSE. WE BELIEVE THE  RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TODAY   DOES NOT ADDRESS THE NEEDS FOR  LEADERSHIP THAT FREELY EXPLORES OPTIONS, RECOMMENDS PRIORITIES, AND WORKS CLOSELY WITH STAFF.   AS WE HAVE DONE ALL THESE  YEARS. WE BELIEVE THE  RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE THE   OPTIMAL GROWTH DIVIDES FOR THE  RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND PLANS TO PROVIDE THOSE  OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE   GREENWAY PROGRAM.  WE HOPE TO  BE YOUR PARTNER FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU, MR. LOMBARDI.   >> NEXT SPEAKER, ERIN DRAPER.   >> THINK YOU VERY MUCH, ERIC   DRAPER. I AM NOW A VOLUNTEER   WITH CAPITAL CITY CYCLISTS,   ALSO A COUNTY APPOINTEE ON THE  BICYCLE WORKING GROUP. IT HAS   BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE. I AM   HERE FOR THE REVISED RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED . I   WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH,   COMMISSIONERS, FOR PROVIDING SO MANY BEAUTIFUL AND   WELL-MAINTAINED COUNTY PARK.  THE COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE SO MANY NICE  PLACES TO RECREATE AND ENJOY. I ENJOY THIS SLIDESHOW SHOWING  COMMISSIONER MINOR PLANTING A   TREE ON THE WEEKEND OF MARTIN  LUTHER KING DAY. THE McKISSICK  HE GREENWAY IS UNIQUE AMONG   COUNTY PARKS IN BELONGING TO  AND BEING LEASED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 500 ACRES OF   CONSERVATION LAND,    CONSERVATION LAND HAS A LEGAL  MEANING UNDER STATE LAW. MOSTLY UNBROKEN TRAILS WHERE PEOPLE   CAN GET AWAY FROM TRAFFIC AND   SAFELY WALK. NICE TO SEE THE   MULTIUSE TRAIL AMONG ROADS. BUT THIS IS ONE THAT YOU CAN GET   OUT AND WALK SEVERAL MILES AWAY FROM TRAFFIC. AS A CONDITION OF THE COUNTY'S LEASE, AND   BECAUSE THE GREENWAY IS   CONSERVATION LAND, THE GOVERNOR HAS TO APPROVE -- DELEGATED BY  COUNSEL, BUT IT IS THEIR  APPROVAL, IT IS THEIR LAND. AND THAT IS WHAT WE GO ALONG WITH   FORGETTING TO HAVE FREED THE   USE OF 500 ACRES, WHICH IS  WORTH $4 MILLION WHEN IT WAS   PURCHASED. YOU CAN IMAGINE IT  IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT  RIGHT NOW. THE STATE PAID THOSE DOLLARS. WE'VE JUST GOT TO   TAKE CARE OF IT. AS A DIRECTOR  OF STATE PARK, I SENT OFF MANY  MANAGEMENT PLANS, ADVISORIES  COMMITTEES PLAYED AN IMPORTANT  ROLE IN HELPING TO SHAPE THOSE  PLANS. SOMETIMES THEY HAD TO   KEEP US HONEST. AND SOMETIMES  THEY MADE US DO THINGS THAT  WERE INCONVENIENT. BUT THEY ARE REALLY VALUABLE. SO MUCH   EXPERTISE THAT YOU WOULD NOT  OTHERWISE HAVE WITH STAFF. ONE  OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL MEMBERS OF THAT CAME FROM  CITIZENS   ORGANIZATIONS, AND THOSE STATE  LEVELS GENERATE $4 MILLION IN   CONTRIBUTIONS AND PROVIDE FOR   THEM -- WHAT DID I SAY HERE?  EXCUSE ME, 1 MILLION HOURS OF   SERVICE. NOW I WANT TO THINK OF CLAY STATE PARK, WHERE THE   ORGANIZATION PUT ON A FAMOUS   MOON OVER McCLAY. THAT IS AN   EXAMPLE OF CSO. SO I HAVE COME  TO ADMIRE THE FRIENDS OF  MICCOSUKEE CANOPY ROAD   GREENWAY, THE IMPROVED   GREENWAY, YOU MADE IT EVEN  BETTER.  THE FRIENDS GROUP AND  OTHERS WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE   FUTURE OF THE PARK, WE NEED TO  BE WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF  THE PARK BECAUSE IT WILL BE --  I WILL JUST BE VERY QUICK AND   WRAP UP. IT WILL BE FRAGMENTED  BY ALL THESE ROADS. IT WILL NOT BE 10 YEARS FROM NOW ACCORDING  TO THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN.   ACCORDING TO THIS NOW, WE HAVE  TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND   THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY  WILL BE LIKE. WE HAVE TO CALL  UPON THIS GROUP TO DO THAT. I   AM FORTUNATE TO GET INCLUDED IN THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND I  ACCEPT THE FACT THEY HAVE  DECIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE   ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS   OPERATING, THAT IS PART OF WHAT YOUR RESOLUTION DOES, TO MAKE   IT A DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE. AT THE SAME TIME, FOR REASONS   WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND,   RESOLUTION MADE THE CHAIR THE  ADVISORY OF THE COMMITTEE. I   THINK IT IS BETTER AND   CONSISTENT WITH ALL SORTS OF   OTHER COMMITTEES THAT ALL OF US HAVE SERVED ON, AS THE MEMBERS  ACTUALLY SET THE PROCESS.  ALLOWED THE MEMBERS TO SELECT   THE BEST AMONG THEM TO BE THE   CHAIR IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU  HAVE A CHAIR ELECTED AMONGST   YOURSELVES TO SET THE AGENDA,   SET THE PACE, MAKE SURE  EVERYONE IS LISTENED TO, AND   ALL THE QUESTIONS GET RESOLVED. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING OF  YOU HERE TODAY.  >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.   >> FINAL SPEAKER ON THIS, BRETT BARTEL.  >> THANK YOU. BRETT BARTEL. I   AM PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW   BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A NEED FOR THE  GREENLAND. THE SPACE IS  NOT ENOUGH FOR HORSES. I'VE GOT PEOPLE NOW, I'VE BEEN HERE   LONG ENOUGH, WHEN IT WAS A DIRT ROAD AND ACCESSIBLE FOR HORSES  AND PEOPLE. NOW GOING ON 90, I  CAN SHOW YOU THE TRAFFIC THAT   GOES BY. WE NOW HAVE TO HAVE   PEOPLE WITH TRUCKS AND TRAILERS TO LEAVE MY OWN PROPERTY TO GET TO THE GREENWAY SAFER. IT DOES  NOT MAKE SENSE. ALL OF THE  PLACES I HAVE LIVED,   JACKSONVILLE, ATLANTA, LONDON,  THIS GREENWAY COULD BE LIKE   NOTHING ELSE IF WE PUT IT   TOGETHER RIGHT AND KEEP IT   CONTINUOUS. IF WE KEEP THE   ACTIVITY AROUND IT. THE TOURISM IN THE BAG IN IT, WE CAN PICK  IT BACK UP. WE HAVE TO HAVE   THAT KIND OF DRAW OF THE   GREENWAY AND THE USAGE OF IT.  WHEN I WORKED AT MAILING   INFORMATION SYSTEMS, NOBODY   KNEW WHAT IT WAS FOR THE MOST   PART. THEY CAME BACK IN 2006,   THEY SAW HOW GOOD IT WAS DOING, HE GAVE ME INCENTIVE. I COULD  GET CHOKED UP IF THIS KEEPS  HAPPENING. ANYTHING WE CAN DO  TO GET INTO THE GREENWAY  CITIZENS  GROUP, I WOULD LOVE   TO BE PART OF THAT. COME SEE MY FARM IN THE MORNING. SEE THE  WILDLIFE. SEE THE THINGS I SEE. THE DEER, THE TURKEYS COME THE  BOBCATS, HOW MY HORSES WATCH  THEM. THIS IS HEALING. WE NEED  THE INCLUSION OF EVERYTHING,   NOT JUST A SPECIFIC GROUP TO   CHOKE OFF THE WILDLIFE . TO   SOME EXTENT, IT WILL CHOKE IT   OFF IF WE DO NOT FIND A WAY TO  MAKE SURE IT IS STILL VERY  ACCESSIBLE. I FEEL LIKE IT HAS  NOT BEEN FOR US FOR A LONG  TIME. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO   STEP FORWARD AS THIS IS   HAPPENING WOULD BE GREAT. WE  KNOW THAT AMAZON WAS NEVER   PLANNED BEFORE THIS. IT HAS   AFFECTED MY FRONT AND BACK   DOOR. I WOULD LIKE TO BE   INVOLVED THOUGH. I GREATLY  APPRECIATED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.   >> THINK YOU , MR. BARTEL. MR.  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR?  >> MADAM CHAIR, VERY QUICKLY ON THIS ITEM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK  MAGGIE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM REAL QUICK. I UNDERSTAND THE  CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PROVIDE A BIT OF CLARIFICATION. RHAPSODY FOUND OURSELVES IN A   BIT OF A TECHNICAL CHALLENGE IN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. FIRST  OF ALL, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING   ABOUT LEON COUNTY, YOU KNOW THE LINKS OF WHICH WE GO TO GET   FULL SYSTEM ANTICIPATION. WE  NEED CITIZENS ON THIS  COMMITTEE. IT CERTAINLY WOULD   NOT MEET MAGGIE OR AMANDA, IF  YOU KNOW THE TWO OF THEM TO   EXERT THEIR WILL IN ANY WAY ON  THIS BOARD, BUT RATHER TO   FACILITATE THE MOST ROBUST   CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT WE COULD GET FROM THIS COMMITTEE, THAT IS  JUST WHAT WE DO. WHAT WE HAVE   THERE IS A TECHNICAL ISSUE HERE RELATED TO AMANDA HEIDEGGER'S  STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE IN HER  DESIGNATION WITH THE LEAD IN   RESPECT TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN  IN FACILITATING THIS COMMITTEE  WITHOUT THE POTENTIAL OF   VIOLATING ANY SUNSHINE LAW   ISSUES NOW THAT IT IS A   DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE.  >> THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT  UP. FIRST AND FOREMOST, MY  HEART FOR ROB, SUE, ERIC, AND  OTHERS . I ENDORSE EVERYTHING  THEY SAID ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE  OF THIS COLLABORATION AND FOLKS LIKE ROB WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED SINCE 1998 IN HIS PROPERTY,  WHEN IT BECAME THE PROPERTY   THAT WE KNOW TODAY. IT IS THEIR LEGACY WE ARE BUILDING ON IN  HIS DEVELOPMENT. I THINK EACH  OF YOU FOR THAT. SPECIFIC TO   THE CHAIR ROLE, WHEN THIS IS A  FOCUS GROUP -- WHEN COUNTY   POLICY DICTATES, WHEN IT IS   BECOMING A DECISION-MAKING BODY AS THE RESOLUTION IS PROPOSING  TONIGHT. AND THAT, AS HE   ADMINISTERED WAS SHARING, THERE ARE STRICT SUNSHINE LAWS THAT   WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY, FOR THE   STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE   COMMITTEE. BECAUSE THE STATE   MANDATE THE  MAKE UP OF AT   LEAST 11 OF THE 14 MEMBERS WILL HAVE ON THIS COMMITTEE,  INCLUDING A REPRESENTATIVE OF   YOUR COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER   O'KEEFE TO SERVE, WE HAVE LESS LATITUDE THAN WE WOULD ON OTHER DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEES.   BECAUSE OUR PARKS DIRECTOR IS  AN APPOINTED MEMBER OF THIS   COMMITTEE, THERE ARE A LOT OF   LIMITATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO   SUNSHINE TO MEDICATION,  PREPARING FOR THESE MEETINGS,  THESE MEETING MINUTES AND  COLLABORATING WITH THE CHAIRMAN AS YOU TRADITIONALLY WOULD TO   PREPARE FOR MEETINGS LIKE THIS. IT REALLY WAS MUCH MORE OF A   PRACTICAL SOLUTION. BUT WE ARE  AT THE WILL OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, IF THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE   APPROACH, WE WILL BRING THAT.   >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, ANYTHING  FIRST?    >> KNOW.  >> I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MINOR PULLED THIS ITEM. I WILL GIVE  THIS OVER TO YOU.   >> YOU DID NOT PULL 17?    >> ACTUALLY, YOU'RE RIGHT. I   GOT MY AGENDA ITEMS MIXED UP.  YOU ARE CORRECT, MA'AM. THANK  YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. I APPRECIATE IT. I WANT  TO THANK THE FOLKS THAT CAME TO SPEAK TODAY. SOME OF THE FOLKS  UPON THE COMMISSION FOR A WHILE HAVE MAYBE HEARD ME SAY THIS   BEFORE. WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE   IN 2018 WITH THE COUNTY   COMMISSIONER, I DID A LOT OF   DOORKNOCKING, I SPOKE WITH A  LOT OF VOTERS. ANYTHING I HEARD MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE WAS   THAT WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT  YOU, WHEN YOU GET ELECTED,   MATURE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LISTENS TO US.  I THINK THE COUNTY DOES A GOOD JOB OF LISTENING TO   PEOPLE AND SEEKING PUBLIC  INPUT, HAVING BEEN ON THE   OUTSIDE FOR A WHILE, AND I  WORKING ON THE COUNTY   COMMISSION, I REALLY DO THINK  THE COUNTY DOES A GOOD JOB, A   SINCERELY GOOD JOB. BUT THE  PERCEPTION IS THERE. THE   PERCEPTION IS THAT LOCAL  GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO  STEAMROLL US AND TRYING TO GET  WHAT HE WANTS WITHOUT LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC. I DO NOT THINK   THAT IS HAPPENING, I DO NOT  THINK THAT IS TRUE IN THE  COUNTY COMMISSION AND THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATION. BUT I   UNDERSTAND THE PERCEPTION. WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT HERE IS   THAT WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CITIZENS CONTRIBUTING FOR  YEARS ON THE MICCOSUKEE  GREENWAY, EXPERTS, SPENDING   UNKNOWN NUMBERS OF VOLUNTEER   HOURS, PROVIDING HIGHLY   VALUABLE ADVICE WITH THE  MANAGEMENT AND FUTURE OF THE   GREENWAY. I THINK WHAT THIS  DOES, IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO   THEM THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED IN A NEGATIVE WAY, THAT THEIR  INPUT, THAT THE CONTROL OF   COMMITTEE IS BEING SEATED OVER  TO THE COUNTY. AT THE SAME  TIME, I RECOGNIZE IN MY   BRIEFINGS TALKING WITH HER   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT  THIS, THERE ARE SOME STATUTORY  REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS  COMMITTEE NEEDS TO ABIDE BY AND CHECK BOXES THAT WE NEED TO   CHECK DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PLANNING.  SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A MOTION WHERE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE  STRUCTURE OF THE COMMITTEE  UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS OF   STATUTE TO SEE HOW WE CAN   RETAIN A CITIZEN ELECTED AS   CHAIR, ELECTED BY THE MEMBERS   OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT STILL  HAVE THAT SAME TYPE OF BEING   HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE THINGS  WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH.  MAYBE   IN ADDITION TO THE CHAIR AND  THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE,   MAYBE WE HAVE A COUNTY STAFF   PERSON SERVE AS THE VICE CHAIR, OR IS HE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR,  SIMILAR TO THE NONPROFIT THAT   HAS A BOARD, THEN THEY HAVE  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT   ACTUALLY MANAGES THE WORK OF   THE ORGANIZATION. I THINK WE   ARE ALL RELATIVELY SMART   PEOPLE. I THINK WE CAN COME UP  WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD  ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE   CITIZENS THAT HAVE DEVOTED   UNOWNED NUMBERS OF HOURS TO THE QUALITY OF THE MANAGEMENT OF   THE GREENWAY, AND YET STILL  ACHIEVE WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT   WE NEED TO FOR STATUTE ON THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATION. SO, MY  MOTION WOULD BASICALLY BE  TO   FURTHER THIS AGENDA ITEM, HAVE  A COME BACK AT THE NEXT  REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR  OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, WITH   THE NEXT DONATION OF THOSE  OPTIONS. WHERE IT CAN BE  RETAINED THAT THE CITIZENS  HAVING CONTROL OVER ELECTING  THE CHAIR OF THEIR CHOICE, AND  STILL HAVING SOMEONE ON THE   COUNTY STAFF THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO MANAGE A CITIZEN COMMITTEE  ON MANAGING THOSE CHECKBOXES   THAT WE NEED TO CHECK OFF. TO   ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD COMPROMISE. WE NEED TO HAVE IT  COME BACK TO US AND MAKE SURE   THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE   STATUTE. BUT I THINK IF WE   COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THE   COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN   MAKE SURE, I THINK THAT IS A   GOOD COMPROMISE. TO FURTHER  THIS ITEM, ASK OUR  COUNTY   STAFF TO GO BACK AND TAKE A   LOOK, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE  MAY BE TO RESTRUCTURE THIS  COMMITTEE SO THAT WE HAVE A   COMPROMISE THAT SATISFIES BOTH  PARTIES.  >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER  MINOR. I AM GOING TO DEFER A   MINUTE TO THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE COMMISSIONER O'KEEFE   IN QUEUE.   >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST ON THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER   MINOR, I WAS JUST TRYING TO   SAVE YOU SOME TIME, IN TERMS OF DEFERRING THE ITEM AND BRING IT BACK. IF IT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION TODAY THAT SIMPLY SAYS WE WOULD HAVE A CITIZEN ACT AS CHAIR, WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT. THIS IS AN  ABUNDANCE OF CAUTIOUS ISSUE,   BUT IT IS WHEN WE CAN MANAGE.   IF YOU GIVE US THAT DIRECTION,  WE WILL DO IT AND FIGURE IT   OUT.  >> THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER ,   THE BEST COUNTY ADMINISTERED  HER IS THE BEST IN MINISTRY IN  THE WORLD. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. I WANT TO MODIFY MY MOTION, PER  THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S   COMMENTS JUST NOW. SO WE WILL   CHANGE AND ADOPT THIS ITEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAKING SURE   THAT THE CHAIR REMAINS IN AN   ELECTED POSITION FROM THE   MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THAT  WOULD BE MY MOTION.   >> THANK YOU. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? AWESOME, ANY OTHER   COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER  O'KEEFE?    >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND   COMMISSIONER MINOR.   >> I BELIEVE YOU ARE  APPOINTED TO THE MICCOSUKEE GREENWAY, IS  THAT CORRECT?  >> I AM, I AM. I AM HONORED TO  DO SO. I WANT TO THANK BRETT,   SUE, ERIC, ROBIN, FOR ALL OF  YOUR WORK, FOR COMMISSIONER   MINER ON THIS. THIS MOTION GETS TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO BE   GETTING AT IN WHAT THE COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR AND I HAVE BEEN   FIGHTING ABOUT ALL WEEKEND.    I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN WHERE I   WANTED TO GO, I HAD SO MUCH TO  SAY. THE ISSUE HERE IS, THERE   IS A BIG ISSUE HERE AT THIS. I  AM NOT GOING TO LIE, IT PUT A   BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH THAT AS  SOON AS I GET APPOINTED TO A   VERY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE FOR A  VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR MY  COMMUNITY, WE CHANGE THINGS UP. SO THIS COMMITTEE NO LONGER   CHOOSES THEIR OWN CITIZEN   REPRESENTED. THE COUNTY  ATTORNEY, I'M SORRY, THE  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WITH   LEGAL ADVICE AND CONTACTS FROM  THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE ASSURED   ME IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF HOW I   DRESS HER HOW I LOOK. BUT ALL   JOKES ASIDE, IT IS AN ISSUE.   WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, THIS  MIGHT  BE GOOD TO CLARIFY, OR  THE COUNTY MINISTRY KNOWS WHERE HE IS GOING WITH THIS WITH THE  MOTION, I WILL LEAVE IT. IT IS  NOT THE MOTION I GOT BEFORE   THIS MEETING. IF THERE WAS   ANOTHER WAY, I WOULD DO IT. I   HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT BEING   IN THE SUNSHINE OR BEING A  DECISION-MAKING COMMITTEE. I   HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE   CITIZENS NOT BEING ABLE TO   ELECT THEIR CHAIR, AND   ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WHERE WE  HAVE CITIZENS WHO DO NOT JUST  SHOW UP AND COMMENT, THESE   FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING THE WORK  BY VOLUNTEERING OUT THERE FOR   THREE DECADES. DOING THE WORK   THAT LET US GET 500 ACRES OF   GREENWAY. SO I HAVE HEARD FROM  SOME MEMBERS OF THOSE  COMMUNITIES THAT HELP. FOR SOME REASON, THE AMOUNT OF   COLLABORATION THAT THEY HAVE  BEEN OPENED TO RECEIVE FROM OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS DECLINED   IN RECENT YEARS. WHICH IS THE  CONTEXT FROM WHICH THE   SUSPICION COMES FROM, TO BE   VERY CLEAR. SO IF THE ISSUE OF  HAVING IT IS SUNSHINE IN A  STAFF SUPPORT PERSON IS USUALLY NOT ALSO ON THE COMMITTEE ,  THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE  CHAIR, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT   GENERALLY IS THE COMMUNICATION? MY ASSUMPTION IS SCHEDULING   MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.  WHAT WOULD HELP ME TO KNOW WHO  WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE STAFF  SUPPORT THAT IS NOT THE   APPOINTEE, WHAT IS THE NATURE   OF THE USUAL COMMUNICATION  BETWEEN A STAFF SUPPORT AND A   COMMITTEE CHAIR?   >> MADAM CHAIR, IT REALLY   DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE   COMMITTEE. IT IS INCUMBENT ON   US TO BRING THESE ISSUES TO   YOUR ATTENTION.  IF WE COULD   AVOID A VERY CLEAR POTENTIAL   ISSUE, WHICH THIS IS, RELATIVE  TO THE DECISION-MAKING CAPACITY OF THIS COMMITTEE, WE ARE  TRYING TO STRUCTURE IN A WAY TO DO THAT, FIRST AND FOREMOST. IF WE CAN DO THAT TO FACILITATE A  ROBUST CONVERSATION OF  CITIZENS, WE WILL DO THAT TOO.  BUT THE BOARD HAS MADE A   DETERMINATION THAT WE  UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL   ISSUES, WE STILL WOULD RATHER   GO IN THIS DIRECTION, THEN WE  WILL TAKE THAT DIRECTION ALL   DAY. MAGGIE, YOU PROBABLY COULD TAKE MARK WITH RESPECT TO THIS  COMMITTEE. THERE ARE DETAILS WE NEED TO MEET WITH IN THE PLAN   THAT ARE SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE. WE DO NOT HAVE A DEEP PARKS AND REC'S STAFF, OTHER THAN  AMANDA, OUR PARKS AND REC'S   STAFF, SO WE DO NOT HAVE THAT  CAPACITY, BUT WE WILL CREATE IT . GO AHEAD, MAGGIE. YOU CAN   SPEAK MORE TO THE NATURE OF THE DISCUSSION AND COMMUNICATIONS   BETWEEN THE STAFF AND  COMMITTEE.  [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]   ARE BEING MADE, THERE IS THE   EXPERTISE OF BEING THE BRIDGE  BETWEEN THE STATE AND THIS  COMMITTEE. AS I THINK MR.   DRAPER SHARED , THAT REMINDED   US. YOU AS A BODY ARE THE   INITIAL APPROVAL  BUT   ULTIMATELY THIS IS A STATED   DOCUMENT IN A STAGE REVIEW .   HAVING THE STAFF POSTURED TO   BETWEEN THESE TWO WORLDS LIVE.   REFLECTING ON THESE NEEDS  WE  WILL FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN THE BALANCE OF   AND STILL ACHIEVING THOSE GOALS TWO.    >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  AND,  THAT IS HELPFUL.  I WOULD THINK THE THINGS THAT ARE   ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE, I  WOULD NOT EVEN SUGGEST  THE   NEED TO EXPAND THE PARKS   DEPARTMENT. HE WANT TO BE   CAREFUL THAT THEY DO NOT   INTERACT AND I CAN SEE THERE'S A REASON THERE'S NOT A   ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONAL AT  THE  LEVEL OF THE ORGANIZATION  HE WAS CAPABLE OF SCHEDULING  MEETINGS  AND HE WOULD BE   FIGURING OUT THE COORDINATION . IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING AND I WILL DROP IT AND WE WILL GO,  BUT THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING.   THANK YOU.    >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR, BASED ON YOUR  COMMENT , WOULD THE PENDING  RESOLUTION  NOT NEED TO BE   CHANGED? SO,?    >> YES, MDM. CHAIR. IT WOULD  NEED TO BE REVISED TO REMOVE  THE PROVISION THAT  WAIVES THE  POLICY TO DESIGNATE  COUNTY   STAFF AS THE CHAIR IN THE   ABSENCE OF THAT  PROVISION, THE DEFAULT  PROVISION OF THE  POLICY WILL APPLY IN THE  COMMITTEE WILL APPOINT THE  CHAIR.   >> THANK YOU COUNTY ATTORNEY.   ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?  COMMENTS  FROM  COMMISSIONERS ?   COMMISSIONER WELCH, VICE CHAIR.    >> THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR. I  WANT  TO PROVIDE COVER FOR THE  RECORD, A CLARIFICATION, RIGHT?  WHICH WE HAVE KIND OF DANCED   AROUND THAT . BUT I GET THE  CONCERNS. RIGHT? MY  UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE , THIS  IS THE GENESIS OF THIS  STRUCTURE ADMINISTRATIVELY.   ULTIMATELY -- RESPONSIBILITY  FOR THE MANAGEMENT POINT OF THE PROPERTY, IS THAT RIGHT?  THIS  IS LAND THAT IS OWNED BY THE   STATE AND IT IS OUR   RESPONSIBILITY, WE HAVE SECEDED THAT  -- STATUTORILY THAT WE    QUIRES IT BE AND IT IS    DECISION-MAKING BODY, WE TRY TO FIND  THE PATH OF LEAST  RESISTANCE TO DOING THAT IN  MOST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT   WAY, CORRECT?  CORRECT.   >> I HATE THAT IT HAS BECOME  TENSE. I THINK THAT THE   CITIZENS THAT HAVE SERVED  AND  ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE   GREENWAY WHICH WAS ENTIRELY IN  MY DISTRICT , I HATE THAT THIS  HAS BEEN APPROACHED IN A TENSE  WAY.  I DID NOT KNOW THIS WAS A CONCERN AT ALL UNTIL TODAY.    AND THAT FRUSTRATES ME. I FEEL  LIKE  THESE GUYS, I REALIZE  THEY ARE HAMMERS AND THEY ARE  JUST HITTING NAILS, AND THEY  HAVE A LOT OF THEM AND THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS IN THE  RIGHT WAY. BUT I THINK IT IS   IMPORTANT THAT WE, AS   COMMISSIONERS SELECTED BY THE  COMMUNITY IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY. IT IS   OUR BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY.    WE VALUE THE OPINIONS OF   CITIZENS, I DON'T EXPECT FOR   ONE SECOND  THAT THE STRUCTURE  THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS   GOING TO SOMEHOW USURP  THE   OPINIONS OF CITIZENS. I DON'T  THINK THAT FOR ONE SECOND    MAGGIE OR TERRY OR LINDA WILL  BLOCK THE WAY THROUGH THIS  TO  AFFECT THE OUTCOMES OF THE   MANAGEMENT PLANS. I FEEL LIKE   THAT IS WHAT IS KIND OF BEING   SUGGESTED AND IT FRUSTRATES ME.  AND, SO, I APPRECIATE THE  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S ABILITY TO ACQUIESCE CAN SAY OKAY , WE  WILL DO SOME MORE WORK AND WE   WILL FINAGLE A WAY  TO MAKE IT  AND STRUCTURE IT IN SUCH A WAY  THAT  THE CHAIR IS NOT AT THE   APPOINTEE FROM THE COUNTY, BUT  I FEEL LIKE THAT IS JUST BEING  DONE IN GOOD FAITH. AND I HATE  THE SITUATION THAT IT'S SOMEHOW  AN OVERBEARING ATTEMPT TO  CONTROL  SOMETHING THAT WE ALL  CHERISH AND LOVE AND APPRECIATE AND WANT TO PROTECT  AND  MAINTAIN FOR THE PUBLIC USE. WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO DO THAT  FROM THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE  STREET.  SO, I JUST FELT THE   NEED TO SAY THAT. I AM A LITTLE BIT IN DEFENSE OF HIS.  BUT I  AM HAPPY THAT  IF THAT WILL GET US TO A PLACE IN A POSTURE THAT IS MORE COMPARABLE TO THE   MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT   WE AT LEAST PUT THAT IN THE   RECORD. THANK YOU.  >>  THANK YOU COMMISSIONER  WELCH.    >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.  I DEFINITELY DO.  WHEN THE   COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I  TALKED ABOUT IT, IN TERMS OF   MAKING SURE THAT THE PLAN  IS   RUN THROUGH EFFICIENTLY AND   EFFECTIELY AND CAPTURES WHAT   WE NEED , I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. AND I'M  AM SURE YOU WILL   AGREE WITH ME , WE WORK FOR THE CITIZENS THAT ELECT US, WE WORK FOR THE CITIZENS OF LEON  COUNTY.  LET'S TRY TO MAKE  SURE THAT WE SET UP STRUCTURES  TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK FOR  PROVIDE INPUT FOR US.  I AGREE  WITH YOU.  -- TO STEAMROLL WHAT IT NEEDS AND WANTS OVER THE   CITIZENS. I DON'T THINK THAT.  I TRULY DON'T THINK THAT IS   WHAT IS HAPPENING.  THE   PERCEPTION ABOUT GOVERNMENT IN  GENERAL, NOT EVEN SPECIFICALLY  ABOUT LEON COUNTY  BUT   GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL IS THAT  IT DOES NOT LISTEN TO PEOPLE,   IT OFTEN PUSHES THROUGH THINGS   THAT MAY CONFLICT WITH WHAT   CITIZENS WANT OR NEED. SO, TO  ACCOMMODATE  THE DESIRES OF THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE WORKED   SOMEONE ON THIS , WE HAVE AN  OPTION, SOUNDS LIKE THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR SAID WE DO HAVE   AN APPROACH TO SATISFY BOTH THE DESIRE OF  THE CITIZENS TO   ELECT THEIR OWN CHAIR  AND   ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED TO  TO  FORMULATE THAT PLAN.  BUT I   AGREE WITH YOU, IT IS NOT AN  AND SITUATION THAT HAS SOME  TYPE  OF DEVIOUS INTENT. I   DON'T THINK THAT IS THE CASE.  I JUST DON'T. BUT, THAT   PERCEPTION EXISTS  IN THE   GENERAL SENSE ABOUT GOVERNMENT. I THINK THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO EASILY ADDRESS THAT POINT THANK YOU.    >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER    COMMISSIONERS? I WANT TO SAY    TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT  CAME BEFORE US THIS AFTERNOON , WE DO VALUE YOUR INPUT . MS.   NORIS, MR. LOMBARD , MR.  DRAPER, MR. BARTEL.  WE ARE   HERE REPRESENTING YOU. AND WE   APPRECIATE YOU  COMING TO   ADDRESS US AND GIVE US YOUR  CONCERN . AND WE ALSO VALUE THE FACT THAT WE LISTEN AND WE  TRY TO  GUESS, I BELIEVE WE WILL  TRY TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY, TRY  TO FIND SOME COMPROMISING    LANGUAGE OR SOME COMPROMISING  SITUATION  SO THAT YOU WILL  KNOW  THAT YOU ARE INPUT  IS  VALUED.  AND, SO, I BELIEVE ,   BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM THE  COUNTY ADMINISTER, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT OUR  REPRESENTATIVE  AND   COMMISSIONER MINOR, I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN  IN THE PAST, AND I  THINK ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS ARE VERY VALUABLE  TO THIS BOARD.  NOW, WE HAD A MOTION ON THE   FLOOR, BUT THAT WAS  PRIOR TO   THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR   INDICATING THAT  HE WOULD CHECK WITH THE ATTORNEY AND WE WILL  CERTAINLY  ACQUIESCE  TO THE  OPINION  OF THE COMMITTEE  MEMBERS, THE BOARD MEMBERS. SO, DO WE NEED TO MODIFY THAT   MOTION A LITTLE ? OKAY.  ALL   RIGHT, HEARING NO OTHER  COMMENTS . ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ?  COMMISSIONER  MANNERS?  THANK  YOU. AND I VOTE  AYE. ANY   OPPOSITION? HEARING ON , THE   MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.   MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR I  BELIEVE WE ARE BACK ON OUR   REGULAR AGENDA , ITEM NUMBER   25?   >> THANK YOU MDM. CHAIR, ITEM   25, COMMISSIONERS WILL BE  VERY FRESH IN YOUR SHORT-TERM  MEMORIES, THE GRATIFICATION OF  THE BOARD'S ACTIONS  AT   YESTERDAY'S ANNUAL RETREAT.  AGAIN YOU WILL SEE I RATIFIED  HERE  PROVIDED BY THE BOARD ,   AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY   QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.   >> THANK YOU.  >> WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS ON THE   ITEM AND WE RECOMMEND THE   OPTION FOR IT.    >> ANY ?  A SECOND? ANY  COMMENTS?  I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL  FOR A VERY ROBUST  RETREAT YESTERDAY, I WANT TO   SAY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR  ON   THIS STAFF  FOR THE WORKSHOP    AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED  IN THE NEW  INITIATIVES THAT WE ADDRESSED   AND ACCEPT IT , AND ALSO FOR  THE STATUS ON WHERE WE ARE    WITH THOSE INITIATIVES THAT WE  ADOPTED  LAST YEAR. SO, THANK   YOU ALL SO MUCH. ALL OF THOSE   IN FAVOR ,  LET ME KNOW BY   SAYING AYE.  COMMISSIONER   MADDOX?  >>  AYE.   >> ANY OPPOSITION?  THANK YOU   SO MUCH. MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR? I BELIEVE WE ARE ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.     >> THANK YOU, MDM. CHAIR, AND  JENNA ITEM NUMBER 26,  SEEK   YOUR CONSIDERATION OF A    TALLAHASSEE  HISTORICAL   SOCIETY'S REVISED FUNDING  REQUEST RELATED TO THE $10,000   THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED   AND AWARDED BY THE BOARD, THE   FUNDING WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED  BY THE BOARD FOR THE PRINTING  AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE   CHILDREN'S ACT IN THE BOOK   ENTITLED TALUS IC 200 . AGAIN,  IN CELEBRATION OF THE 2024   TALLAHASSEE BICENTENNIAL . THE  STATE, SINCE THAT TIME,  RESCINDED ITS MATCHING FUNDS    WHICH RESULTED IN REVISED   REQUESTS TO SUPPORT THE    PRODUCTION OF A DIGITAL    VERSION OF THE BOOK AND ANY   AMOUNT OF $10,000.  SINCE WE   REQUESTED THE CHANGE, WE   BROUGHT IT BEFORE YOU AND WE   ARE RECOMMENDING  THE BOARD  DIRECTION. BUT OPTION ONE WOULD BE  TO APPROVE THE REVISED  REQUESTS  IN THE AMOUNT OF  $10,000.    >> THINK YOU, A SECOND?   >> SECOND.  >> ANY DISCUSSION?  ALL THOSE   IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY  SAYING AYE. COMMISSIONER   MADDOX?    >> AYE.   >> AND I VOTE  AYE. THANK YOO   SO MUCH .    >> COMMISSIONERS, ITEM NUMBER   27 PROVIDES ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION REQUESTED BY THE  BOARD  DURING YOUR WORKSHOP ON  HUMAN SERVICES AND THE CHS    LAST NOVEMBER ON THE PROPOSED  REALIGNMENT  OF THE CH SP HUMAN SERVICES CATEGORIES.  AND WHEN  WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM TO THE   BOARD MOST RECENTLY, AS  REFLECTED  ON THE COMMISSIONERS , THE CSC, THIS  CHILDREN'S   SERVICES COUNCIL WAS APPROVED   BY THE VOTERS IN 2020  AND   LEVIES A PROPERTY TAX  ON ALL   HOMES AND BUSINESSES IN LEON   COUNTY THAT GENERATES MORE THAN $9 MILLION  FOR CHILDREN AND   FAMILY PROGRAMS. COMMISSIONERS, AS WE SAY , THE ITEM IS MORE   THAN THE TOTAL HUMAN SERVICES   FUNDING ALLOCATED BY THE COUNTY AND THE CITY , FOR ALL AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS, WHICH IS ABOUT   $5.6 MILLION.  AS PART OF THE   RECOMMENDED CATEGORY  REALIGNMENT , THE ITEM PRESENTS A PROPOSED  PARTNERSHIP  WITH  THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE CSC  THAT PROVIDES FOR A   TRANSITION PERIOD  TO ENSURE   THE CONTINUITY OF CHILDREN AND  FAMILY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES    DURING THE UPCOMING TWO YEARS   CH SP FUNDING CYCLE. THE   RECOMMENDED LIST REALIGNMENT    OF THESE CATEGORIES WOULD AGAIN  ALLOW US TO MAXIMIZE  LIMITED  HUMAN SERVICES FUNDING  TO  DISTRIBUTE  THROUGH THE  PROCESS, ELIMINATE ANY    POTENTIAL DUPLICATION OF   RESOURCES AND HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THE SERVICE DELIVERY  AND FOCUS ON CHILDREN'S SERVICES. AGAIN,  WHILE TRYING TO FACILITATE  A  SMOOTH TRANSITION AS POSSIBLE   IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THE  CSC  IN THE CITY AND THE   COUNTY. COMMISSIONERS, AGAIN,   THE LAST TIME WE MET YOU  REQUESTED  INPUT FROM THE  AGENCIES .  AGAIN, TODAY, WE   HAVE INCLUDED  SOME OF THAT  INPUT, ALL THE INPUT WE HAVE  RECEIVED  IN THE ITEM, -- IS  HERE WHO HAS FACILITATED A  NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT TIME    WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES  PROVIDERS.  AND, WITH THAT,   COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE  RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE, AND WE HAVE  A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS   CARDS.  >> THANK YOU, MR. COUNTY   ADMINISTRATOR. HOW MANY  CAN   YOU SEE HOW MANY DO WE HAVE?   SMACK HIM CHAIR CAN I ASK  THE  COUNTY A QUESTION?  >> 11.   >> 11, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO  IS TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.  SPLIT BEFORE WE START HEARING  THE SPEAKERS AT THE BREAK, I  JUST WANT TO SAY  MY WIFE IS A  REALTOR WHO CURRENTLY HAS  A   BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITHIN   THE OASIS CENTER FOR WOMEN AND  GIRLS AND SERVING AS  A CLIENT  TO THEM. THEY ARE SERVING AS A  CLIENT TO HER, THEY ARE IN THE  PROCESS OF CONDUCTING A REAL   ESTATE TRANSACTION, THIS AGENCY THEREFORE , I MUST DECLARE THE  APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT  AND   REGRETTABLY I SHOULD ABSTAIN  FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM.    >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER  MINOR.  WE WILL TAKE A   FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.   >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?  >> WHEN WE COME BACK WE WILL.    >> COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WILL  TAKE YOUR SEATS PLEASE.    >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY US  TWO, RIGHT? [ LAUGHTER ]    >> A NEW THIS RETURNING TO 10   MINUTES. LOVE     >> OKAY.  COMMISSIONER MADDOX  ARE YOU ON THE PHONE?   >> YES, MA'AM.   >> OKAY, WE HAVE CALLED THE   MEETING BACK TO ORDER .   >> THANK YOU, THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THIS SITE IS SURELY A REAL,  I APOLOGIZE IF I GOT YOUR NAME  WRONG.  IT'S BEEN A GOOD  AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR THE  OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I AM HERE ON BEHALF  ASKING YOUR   CONSIDERATION ABOUT THE LINE   ITEM FOR  THE COUNTY'S BUDGET  FOR HOMELESSNESS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PRE-AND FAMILY   SERVICES, WE HAVE A SHELTER    WHICH IS A TRANSITIONAL SHELTER FOR WOMEN THAT ARE HOMELESS    AND PREGNANT. IT IS THE ONLY   MATERNITY HOME LOAN FAITH   -BASED MATERNITY HOME BETWEEN   PENSACOLA AND JACKSONVILLE.  WE ALSO HAVE SERVED WOMEN  ALL   AROUND THE STATE  AND IN   GEORGIA. SO, THE POINT OF OUR  PROGRAM IS TO HELP WOMEN BECOME MORE SUCCESSFUL  AND MORE  SELF-SUFFICIENT, WE HAVE DONE  THIS  WITH THE CAPACITY TO   SERVE AS  TO SIX MONTHS AT A  TIME, RIGHT NOW  OUR CURRENT   STATUS IS THAT WE HAVE NINE   PEOPLE THERE. WE HAVE  FOUR  WOMEN  AND FOUR INFANTS, AND   ONE TODDLER.  IT IS A HUGE   RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE AND I WANTED TO JUST  SAY I  APPRECIATE  THAT WE HAVE  BENEFITED FROM THE FUNDING FROM THE CHS P PROCESS IN THE PAST . ALSO I WANTED TO SAY  THAT THE  PEOPLE ARE ON OUR WAITING LIST, WE HAVE AN ONGOING WAITING LIST AT ALL TIMES, THEY CAN OF   PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS  OR LOOKING AT OTHER   SHELTERS, PEOPLE IN DOMESTIC   VIOLENCE SITUATIONS . MOMS AND  CHILDREN LIVING ON THE STREET , BUT WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF  SUCCESS  TOO, OF PEOPLE THAT  COME THROUGH OUR PROGRAM. THAT   THEY MAKE THEIR LIVING RIGHT  HERE IN TALLAHASSEE, LIVING AND WORKING  AND WORKING WITH THE   HUMAN SERVICES FIELD . I AM SO  HAPPY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY   TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE DO,  THANK YOU.   >> THANK YOU  MISSES O'REAR.  SELECT NEXT SPEAKER, LAUREN  STAFFORD.    >> GOOD AFTERNOON   COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS   LAUREN STAFFORD, I AND THE  ACADEMIC DIRECTOR OF THE LEGAL  AID  FOUNDATION OF TALLAHASSEE, WHICH PROVIDES FREE CIVIL    LEGAL ASSISTANCE THAT NOT ONLY  ADDRESSES IMMEDIATE CONCERNS   BUT ALSO  CONTRIBUTES TO   BUILDING A STRONGER, MORE  STABLE LEON COUNTY. AT THE  HEART OF OUR MISSION IS A   COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE  AND  ACCESS TO REPRESENTATION, WE   PLAY A PIVOTAL ROLE IN ENSURING THAT ALL YELL COUNTY MEMBERS,   REGARDLESS OF THEIR FINANCIAL,  CAN EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS AND   FIND RESOLUTIONS TO LEGAL   CHALLENGES. OUR SERVICES, WHICH ARE SUPPORTED THROUGH    ANTI-FUNDING ARE A LIFELINE FOR THOSE FACING ADVERSITY, THE   VAST MAJORITY OF CLIENTS BASED   FAMILY LAW CHALLENGES IN THE   AREA OF DIVORCE, CHILD SUPPORT  AND CHILD CUSTODY . THE LEGAL   AID TELL  -- OF TALLAHASSEE IS  A PILLAR OF SUPPORTING  OUR  MEMBERS THROUGH DIFFICULT   PROCESSES. AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THIS FUNDING  IS A CURRENT  CLIENT WHOSE SPOUSE MADE THE   DECISION TO EXIT TO THE  MARRIAGE  AND FORGO  RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FOUR  CHILDREN, ALL UNDER THE AGES OF 10.  WITH VERY FEW RESOURCES TO NAVIGATE THE DIFFICULT JUSTICE   IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO   PROVIDE OUR CLIENT  WITH A   CHILD SUPPORT AGREEMENT THAT   PROVIDE ENOUGH FINANCIAL   ASSISTANCE TO ALLOW THE CLIENT  TO PROPERLY CARE FOR THEIR  CHILDREN. ADDITIONALLY SERVICES WILL PROVIDE REPRESENTATION  DURING  THE DIVORCE PROCESS,   EXECUTING A CIVIL SEPARATION,  WHICH ULTIMATELY HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT  ON CHILDREN AND ALLOWS  EACH MEMBER TO MOVE FORWARD   PEACEFULLY. THE FUNDS AVAILABLE  ALLOW US TO CARRY OUT TWICE  MONTHLY MOBILE LAW CLINICS    PLEASING OUR VOLUNTEER  ATTORNEYS  IN NEIGHBORHOODS   WITH A LIP, IT PROVIDES THE   RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN PROPER  STAFF AND OVERHEAD COSTS  AND   OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH   SUCCESSFULLY RUNNING A  SUSTAINABLE NONPROFIT  ORGANIZATION.  THE RESULT OF   MEETING OUR CLIENTS IN THEIR  NEIGHBORHOOD  MEANS MORE   COMMUNITY MEMBERS SERVE    SOLVING LEGAL CHALLENGES, WE  BELIEVE HUMAN SERVICES HELPED   PROVIDE A STABLE ENVIRONMENT    TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED WHICH  CREATES A RIPPLE EFFECT OF  POSITIVE OUTCOMES CREATING MORE RESILIENTLY LEON COUNTY,    WITHOUT FUNDING  OUR SERVICES   WILL DECREASE AND OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. I  ASK YOU TO IT CONSIDER WHO IS  IMPACTED  AND HAVE A LACK OF  HUMAN SERVICES WILL AFFECT OUR  COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.  HUMAN   SERVICES ARE A LIFELINE FOR   MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WE   REMAIN STEADFAST  IN OUR DESIRE TO ASSIST THOSE IN NEED. THANK  YOU.    >> THANK YOU, MS. STAFFORD.   >> NEXT SPEAKER KIM KALB AND  COUNTRYMEN.    >> YES , HELLO, I AM HERE   REPRESENTING THE BOARD OF   DIRECTORS OF KIDS INCORPORATED   WHICH I HAVE SAT ON FOR AT  LEAST 10 YEARS NOW. SO I   WATCHED YOU GUYS HIT  THE PAUSE BUTTON WHEN YOU ARE TALKING  ABOUT PROCUREMENT AND   PROCUREMENT POLICIES BECAUSE    HE SAID WE NEED TO WORKSHOP  THIS, THERE WERE A LOT OF   QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD. I THINK WE NEED TO WORKSHOP THE  CHSP , WE GET ABOUT $125,000 FROM    CHSP, WE BRING DOWN 460,000  IN FEDERAL MATCH JUST ON WHAT WE   GET FROM  CHSP, WE DON'T GET  THAT, THAT IS 100  BABIES    BIRTH THROUGH  3, WHO NO LONGER HAVE QUALITY CHILD  CARE,   AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE. THAT IS   100 FAMILIES  OF OUR POOREST  CITIZENS  WHO NO LONGER HAVE A  PLACE TO PUT THEIR CHILD , TALK ABOUT THE CYCLE OF POVERTY.    THE IMPACT OF THIS IS GOING TO  BE SIGNIFICANT, I DON'T   UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE NOT    PAUSING TO LET THE CYCLE GO   THROUGH ONE MORE TIME , AND   LET'S REGROUP AND FIGURE OUT   HOW WE DO THIS WITHOUT  IMPACTING SO MANY OF THE   CITIZENS HERE. THAT IS ALL I  GOT, THANK YOU.    >> THANK YOU, MS. COUNTRYMEN.  >> PAT HOLIDAY?    >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.  I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST OF ALL  THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS   OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT  TO YOU. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE MY RETIREMENT THAT I HAVE COME  BEFORE  THIS BODY BUT I FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO DO SO   TODAY BECAUSE OF DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE.  AND HOW THEY  WILL IMPACT THIS COMMUNITY.  MY COMMENTS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE  ADVERSARIAL  OR NEGATIVE TOWARD ANYONE. I AM ONLY TRYING TO  MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I AM   MAKING BECAUSE  I AM SINCERELY  CONCERNED ABOUT THE BEST   INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY.    THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVED, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SERVED,  THE FAMILIES THAT ARE SERVED,   AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUALS THAT  DEPEND ON THE  CHSP FUNDING,   THE SOCIAL WORK, I AM A SOCIAL  WORKER BY TRADE , MSW, ONE OF   THE THINGS THAT WE WANT REALLY  QUICKLY IS TO DO NO HARM.    WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NO HARM.   AND I HAVE ADDED ONE THAT I  LEARNED  FROM BEING A   GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL FOR SO MANY YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE  THAT  OR I WOULD ADD  TO DO  MINIMUM HARM BY REDUCING RISK  FACTORS LEADING TO UNFORESEEN   DOMINO CONSEQUENCES AND EFFECTS BY POLICY DIVISION    DECISION-MAKING.  SOME OF THE  CONCERNS I WOULD LIKE TO   ADDRESS AFTER  REVIEWING THE   AGENDA ITEM, AND ALSO HAVING A  GREAT GRASP OF WHAT THE   COMMUNITY IS  IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR DECADES NOW, I HAVE BEEN IN SOCIAL WORK ALL OF MY LIFE .   AND BY THE WAY, I AM A   HEADSTART CAN'T GRADUATE  MYSELF. I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT  MEANS , NOT JUST FROM A  PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT   ALSO A PERSON WHO HAD TO DEPEND ON THESE  SERVICES, AND THEIR   FAMILIES, THAT HELPED US  SURVIVE  AND HELP ME GET A  SCHOLARSHIP TO FLORIDA STATE  UNIVERSITY.  SOME OF THE   CONCERNS I HAVE, AND I WOULD   LIKE TO KIND OF LIST AND, I   KIND OF WILL SUMMARIZE THEM,   THE ABILITY OF  CHSP TO   INCORPORATE  VITAL FUNDING   PROGRAMS INTO THE EXISTING  FUNDING SYSTEM, INCLUDING  CHSP FUNDED PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE   COMPETING  FOR THE CURRENTLY   FUNDED PROGRAMS  OF THE  COMMUNITY SERVICES COUNCIL.    SO, THAT IS GOING TO SET UP A   COMPETITIVE PROCESS, WE ALL  KNOW THAT, THEN THERE WILL BE  SOME FALLOUT FROM THAT. THE   OTHER PART THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT IS  THERE WILL BE 22  AGENCIES AFFECTED BY THIS  AGENDA.  SOME OF THE QUESTIONS  I HAVE ARE AS FOLLOWS:  SPECIFICALLY  WHO ARE THESE   AGENCIES THAT WE ARE REFERRING  TO? WHAT PROGRAMS ? DO I NEED   TO GO? OKAY. WHAT PROGRAMS  ARE IN JEOPARDY, WHAT PROGRAMS  ARE IN JEOPARDY OF LOSING FUNDING?  WHAT  ARE THE SPECIFIC TARGET   POPULATIONS BEING SERVED BY   THESE PROGRAMS. WHAT  NEIGHBORHOODS  AND INDIVIDUALS  THAT ARE BEING SERVED ? THE  FISCAL IMPACT OF NOT FUNDING   THESE PROGRAMS , THE ANALYSIS,  AS FAR AS THE ABILITY  TO DRAW  DOWN STATE, FEDERAL, AND  ALSO  FOUNDATION DOLLARS. I WILL   HURRY UP AND FINISH.  THEY ALSO KNOW, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REALLY QUICK AND   HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE BULLET   POINTS. I SAT DOWN AND THOUGHT  ABOUT THIS AND WROTE IT  AND I  THOUGHT THESE WERE IMPORTANT  POINTS, WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT  THE FACT THAT  CURRENTLY    CHILDREN SERVICES FUNDS    AGENCIES  AND WE HAVE A NOTE   THAT THEY ARE NOT FUNDING THE   TO THE EXACT SAME PURPOSES.    MOSTLY THEY HAVE BEEN FUNDING   THEM TO EXPAND THE SERVICE   DELIVERY. SO THAT FAMILIES   COULD GET SERVED.  AND, FOR  EXAMPLE,  A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB . WE FUND THEM, THEY ARE FUNDED BY  BOTH FUNDING PARTIES,  RIGHT? AND THEY GET FUNDING   THROUGH THE PROMISE  ZONE. THAT ALLOWS THEM TO THE FIRST TIME   TO PUT  THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IN SOUTH CITY, AS WE ALL KNOW , WHO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT STARK   CITY, THAT IS ONE OF THE   HIGHEST RISK COMMUNITIES FOR   CHILDREN, AND  IN THIS COUNTY.   THE OTHER PART  I WANT TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT INFORMATION  THAT I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE  HAD IN THE AGENDA ITEM,   REGARDING THE  PROPOSAL ON PAGE FIVE  OR THE FUNDING  CATEGORIES.  FOR EXAMPLE IT  WOULD HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT THE  CURRENT BUDGET IS FOR CHSP , IN COMPARISON TO THE PROPOSED   FUNDING CATEGORIES,  WHAT ARE   THE ANTICIPATED BUDGET AMOUNTS  THAT ARE IN THERE? I AM A   BETTER PERSON AND I LIKE TO   HAVE NUMBERS  AND SERIOUS   ANALYSIS, I LIKE TO SAY WHAT  IF, WHAT IF, WHAT IS THE DOMINO EFFECT. BUT  I WOULD LIKE TO   HAVE KNOWN THE DEFINITION OF  THE  PROPOSED FUNDING  CATEGORIES , COMPARED TO THE  EXISTING ONES WE HAVE , AND   ALSO, AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT   PARTICULAR PROGRAMS AND  AGENCIES  WOULD FIT IN THE   PROPOSED CATEGORIES  SO YOU CAN CROSS MATCH TO SEE WHAT THE  POTENTIAL  DROPOUTS MIGHT BE,   WHAT PROGRAMS MIGHT TO DROP OUT , WHAT PROGRAMS WOULD BE BETTER FITTED FOR CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL, ET CETERA, THAT  IS   JUST DETAILED DATA.  THE OTHER  PART I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS  WHEN WE RE-SHIFTS  THOSE   FUNDING CATEGORIES, I AM SORRY.  WHEN WE RECEIVED THOSE FUNDING CATEGORIES , WHAT IS GOING TO  HAPPEN?  DOES  THE AGENCIES   WENT TO THOSE CATEGORIES THAT  ARE  ALREADY SIGNIFICANT AND  UNDERFUNDED?  WHAT WILL HAPPEN  AS A RESULT OF THAT? WILL WE   DESTABILIZE THE PROGRAM  THAT   WE ARE ALREADY HAVING COME IN   THE FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES  DEPEND ON IN THE COMMUNITY . I  WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I DO   BELIEVE IN CHANGE AND I WILL  WALK OUT THE DOOR . CHANGE IS   GOOD, I AM NOT, AND WE HAVE   GONE THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES   AT CHSP OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT  IS HOW THE CHANGES ARE DONE . I AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF   DIRECTORS OF THE  NEW PHS, I  WANT TO NOTE THAT AS WELL , BUT IT IS HOW WE DO IT, I THINK WE  HAVE TO DO IT THOUGHTFULLY AND  CAREFULLY AND INCLUSIVELY. AND  THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.  A SOUND TRANSITION PLAN.   >> THANK YOU.   >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU, NEXT  SPEAKER   KELLY TO BE FOLLOWED BY CASEY  DENNIS.    >> COMMISSIONERS, HELLO. I AM   THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE   OASIS CENTER FOR WOMEN AND  GIRLS.  I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO HEAR  WHAT PAT HOLLIDAY  JUST SAID, BECAUSE WHAT SHE IS  SAYING IS MISSING FROM THE   AGENDA ITEM , THE THING THAT IS DRIVING EVERYBODY CRAZY, IS   THAT THERE IS NO IN-DEPTH   ANALYSIS DONE  OF WHAT THE LOSS OR  THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS  THAT  MIGHT ULTIMATELY LOSE FUNDING  OR REDUCE FUNDING.  WE NEEDED   TO DO A LOT MORE WORK IN THAT  AREA.  FIRST OF ALL I NEED TO   PAY A COMPLIMENT TO YOUR STAFF. AFTER YOU DIRECT AND TO COME   BACK OUT TO THE ORGANIZATIONS , I THOUGHT I DID A GREAT JOB  TAKING UP FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT WAYS. I HAD PRIVATE MEETINGS .  I THINK THEY WERE OPEN IN SOME  WAYS TO HEARING WHAT WE HAD TO  SAY , BUT I ALSO THINK THAT   THERE WAS A SORT OF  A MISSION  SINCE NOVEMBER TO GET SOMETHING DONE  IN A BIG HURRY.  I CANNOT THINK OF ANOTHER ITEM RIGHT   BEFORE THANKSGIVING , THEN GOT  PUSHED THIS FAST WE HAD SUCH A  HUGE IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE.  SO  I'M ASKING YOU TO SLOW IT DOWN AND  BRING IN THE PEOPLE WHO   ARE THE EXPERTS IN THE ISSUE.   UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN SET UP A TABLE . WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED  WITH HOMELESSNESS, WE WANT OUR  SHELTERS TO GET MORE MONEY , WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SERVE  MORE PEOPLE, WE DON'T WANT  WOMEN SLEEPING IN CARS WITH   THEIR CHILDREN , AND WE CAN SIT AT THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE KIND OF CHANGES MIGHT BE   THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE  COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK  NOT   HAVING A FAIR PROCESS OF  SITTING DOWN TO REALLY LISTEN   TO WHAT THE ISSUES ARE  ARE   FORCING YOU TO HAVE TO KIND OF  TAKE THAT MAIN TITLE  INSTEAD   OF REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE   IMPACT UNDERNEATH, THE ONLY   OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS A   FEW MONTHS AGO I WAS TOLD IT  DOES NOT MATTER THAT I'VE BEEN AROUND 30 YEARS, PEOPLE ARE   TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT. IN   THE SENSE THAT I WANT YOU TO  HEAR THIS ONE THING . WHEN I   GOT HERE IN 96, THE CITY HAD   THE CONSORTIUMS, IT WAS  $1   MILLION GIVEN TO THE DIFFERENT  NEIGHBORHOODS TO DO DIRECT   IMPACT WORK . WITHIN SIX MONTHS  AGENCIES WERE IN COMMISSION  MEETINGS  SCREAMING AT EACH  OTHER ABOUT WHY THEY COULD NOT  ACCESS MONEY AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN  AND WHAT WAS GOING   TO HAPPEN WITH THAT MONEY. IT   WAS LIKE $1 MILLION THAT HAVE   BEEN SHARED . IN TWO HE'S   YEARS LATER,  CHSP WAS   INTRODUCED IN THE SAME THING   HAPPENED LIKE A TRAIN CRASH OR  A WRECK  IN THE HUMAN SERVICES  COMMUNITY HERE , AND IT TOOK US TWO YEARS  JUST TO GET A JOINT  PLANNING BOARD TOGETHER  WITH   THE AGENCIES COULD BE HEARD .   MY POINT IS, IN THE LAST 10   SECONDS, IT ALWAYS FEELS  LIKE  WE ARE PLAYING DEFENSE. IT  FEELS LIKE WE ALWAYS TURN   AROUND AND THERE IS SOMETHING   COMING AT US  THAT IS GOING TO  HURT THE PEOPLE WE SERVE, OR  THAT WE PERCEIVE IT WILL HURT   THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. I   WOULD LIKE TO SIT AT THE TABLE  AND  ONCE ACTUALLY DEVELOP A   STRATEGY FOR HOW WE ARE GOING   TO WIN AND GET IT ACROSS THE   GOAL LINE TOGETHER  IN   PARTNERSHIP WITH ALL OF YOU,   THANK YOU.   >> THANK YOU.    >> CASEY DENNIS TO BE FOLLOWED  BY  STEINMETZ.  CASEY DENNIS?     >> MDM. CHAIR AND MEMBERS, I   CASEY DENNIS  THE BOYS AND  GIRLS CLUB, AT THE HEART AND  SOUL I AM SIMPLY A COUNTRY BOY  BORN AND RAISED IN TALLAHASSEE  FLORIDA. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED    TO LIVE THE DREAM  OF INSPIRING AND ENABLING THE KID TO MEET IS THE MOST TO REACH THEIR FULL  POTENTIAL  AS PRODUCTIVE AND   POSITIVE CITIZENS. I HAVE NOT   DONE IT ALONE. I HAVE AN   AWESOME TEAM  OF BOARD  MEMBERS,'S DEDICATED STAFF WHO ARE IN THE ROOM TODAY. DONORS   WHO BELIEVE IN OUR MISSION  AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS WHO SAY THEY ARE  GOING TO DO WHAT THEY DO. WE   CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT  THE   CROWN RACE IN OUR COMMUNITY,   GUN VIOLENCE, HOMICIDE, AND HOW  32304 IS THE POOREST Z.I.P.   CODE IN OUR STATE. I'M HERE TO PAINT A DIFFERENT PICTURE  WITH YOU STANDING BEHIND ME, THE  TRUE FACES OF THE 32304 Z.I.P.  CODE.  THIS SMALL PORTION OF   YOUTH WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE  BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB EACH AND   EVERY DAY  AFTER SCHOOL, AND   ALL DAY DURING THE SUMMERS.    98% OF THESE KIDS  REGGIE WADE  FROM HIGH SCHOOL  ON TIME,   ATTEND COLLEGE, PURSUE THE   TRADE. 97% OF THE SKIN  FEEL   THAT A TRUSTED ADULT AT THE  BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS THERE   FOR THEM, THAT THEY CAN EXPRESS THEMSELVES TO.  LAST YEAR 27 OF THESE KIDS, 27 OF OUR  GRADUATING SENIORS RECEIVED   FULL SCHOLARSHIPS  FROM THE   BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB'S TO   ATTEND COLLEGE.  100% OF THESE  KIDS SAY THAT THEY FEEL SAFE    IN THESE COMMUNITIES AT THE  BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB'S.  THEY   WANTED TO GO TO COLLEGE, THEY  ARE NOT DOING DRUGS, THEY ARE   PARTICIPATING IN  COMMUNITY   SERVICE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE  AT OUR CLUBS.  THESE ARE THE   YOUTH FROM THE 32304 THIS    Z.I.P. CODE, BASIN STREET,    Z.I.P. CODE, BASIN ST., MACON  COMMUNITY.  THESE ARE THE KIDS   TAKING TRIPS TO WASHINGTON,  D.C.,  INVOLVED IN MUSIC IN THE DRUMLIN  COMMUNITY AND   APPROPRIATE DANCE TEAMS AT NO  COST TO THEIR PARENTS.  ALL OF  THIS MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OUR  BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS   ESTABLISHED THE  CHSP PROCESS  FOR MORE  NONPROFITS THAT CAN  PROVE THEY ARE MAKING A   DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.    THE LEON COUNTY COMMUNITY ALSO  VOTED  TO INCREASE THE SERVICES AND RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR KIDS, THROUGH  CSD LEON  TO INCREASE THE SERVICES. I   WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS THIS   COMBINATION IS WORKING . WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE  LIVES OF THESE KIDS. WE ARE  CHANGING  AND IN MANY CASES,   SAVING THE LIVES OF EACH ONE OF THESE KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.   ANY CHANGE IN THE CURRENT   STRUCTURE WILL MEAN THAT THESE  KIDS WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PLACE  TO GO AFTER SCHOOL.  THEY WOULD HAVE A SAFE PLACE  IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. ANY CHANGE WOULD  TAKE AWAY THEIR HOPE FOR A   GREAT FUTURE.  DO NOT UNDERMINE AND POTENTIALLY REVERSE ALL OF  THE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS THAT    WE, ALL OF US TOGETHER HAVE   MADE IN OUR COMMUNITY.  LET'S  CONTINUE TO ENSURE BRIGHTER   FUTURES OF THE YOUTH IN LEON   COUNTY. PLEASE , PLEASE REJECT  ALL CHANGES  TO THE CURRENT   CHSP STRUCTURE. THANK YOU.    >> THANK YOU, MR. DENNIS, WE  APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE   YOUTH TODAY AS WELL.  AS A   MATTER OF FACT LET'S GIVE THE  YOUTH AROUND OF APPLAUSE. WE  ARE PROUD OF YOU.  [ APPLAUSE ]    >> THANK YOU.    >> SKY BEST, TO BE FOLLOWED BY   KIM CITIES.  IT'S BEEN A,, MY NAME IS SKYE BETH, I AM 14   YEARS OLD AND HAVE BEEN A   MEMBER OF THE  HUSBAND IS THE  POOREST Z.I.P. CODE IN THE  OF  THAT ENVIRONMENT THANKS TO THE  BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THE BOYS   AND GIRLS CLUB IMPACT UNITY  IN A SAFE PLACE FOR US TO GO TO   AFTER SCHOOL AND IN OUR FREE  TIME.  INSTEAD OF VIOLENCE WE   CHOOSE TO GO TO THE BOYS AND  GIRLS CLUB AND ALL ACTIVITIES   THAT ARE POSITIVE.  OPPORTUNITIES AT THE BOYS AND   GIRLS CLUB ARE LIMITLESS. WE DO THINGS LIKE GO  WITH FOOTBALL   PLAYERS TO THEIR FOOTBALL   GAMES, AND MY FAVORITE IS THE   YOUTH ADVOCACY DATE  AT  WASHINGTON, D.C. I HAD A BLAST, IT WAS MY  FIRST PLANE RIDE.  I SAW A NATIONAL MONUMENT AND I   WAS A TOURIST IN A BIG CITY.    THIS CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE  FUNDS, IF YOU TAKE AWAY OUR   FUNDS TO TAKE AWAY OUR  OPPORTUNITIES.  PLEASE DON'T   TAKE AWAY OUR OPPORTUNITIES,   THANK YOU.    >> THANK YOU, IS BEST.  WE   HEARD YOU.  14 YEARS OLD, THANK YOO SO MUCH.  SPIN-UP KIM  CITIES TO BE FOLLOWED BY ROB  RENZI.     >>  GOOD EVENING , I AM THE   EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE  LEARNING PAVILION. WE HAVE   PROVIDED TO US IS TO GET A  IN  OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER  --   FUNDINGS SINCE ITS INCEPTION.   WE UTILIZE THE FUNDING TO  SUPPLEMENT  THE SALARIES OF TWO EARLY INTERVENTION POSITIONS.   THESE POSITIONS FACILITATE    THERAPEUTIC INTERVENTIONS,  COORDINATE SERVICES AND PERFORM STANDARDIZED DEVELOPMENT  ASSESSMENTS FOR TWO   PREKINDERGARTEN CLASSROOMS. OUR UNIQUE MODEL ALLOWS US TO    SERVE 25% MORE CHILDREN WITH  DISABILITIES THAN A TYPICAL  PRESCHOOL  AND IT ENABLES US TO MEASURE, TRACK, AND DEMONSTRATE THE  EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR  PROGRAM.  LOSS OF THE FUNDING   DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE AMOUNT OF  FUNDING WE CONCERNED WITH  DISABILITIES. IN THE PAST WHEN  FACED WITH LARGE CHANGES ,   INPUT WAS COLLECTED FROM   AGENCIES BEFORE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE, RECOMMENDATIONS  CONTAINED REASONABLE TIMELINES.  ALLOWING PROVIDERS THE TIME TO PREPARE AND BUDGET.  THIS IS A  COMPETITIVE PROCESS, BUT   HISTORICALLY AGENCIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RELY CONSISTENTLY ON   THE PROCESS.  THE RUSHED MANNER IN WHICH THIS WAS INTRODUCED   HAS PUT UNDUE STRESS ON THE  CORNERSTONE  HUMAN SERVICE   AGENCIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE  SERVING CHILDREN AND YOUTH. THE RECOMMENDATION  MAKES BROAD   ASSUMPTIONS REGARDING THE ROLE  THAT CHILDREN SERVICE COUNSEL   WILL PLAY IN THE FUNDING  LANDSCAPE. A COUNTY STAFF   FORMERLY APPROACHED  THESE   MEMBERS IN LATE DECEMBER  AND   THE COUNCIL'S RESPONSE WAS  VERY CLEAR, THEY WOULD NOT  CHANGE  THE WAY THEY FUND   INITIATIVES IN REACTION TO  CHANGES  IN THE PROCESS, TO   CLARIFY, REGARDING OUR  CSC,   THERE IS NO CURRENT FUNDING  OPPORTUNITY  FOR EARLY   LEARNING, AND OR FOR AGENCIES   WHOSE TOTAL REVENUE EXCEEDS  OVER $100,000 PER YEAR. AT THE  JANUARY MEETING , THREE   HIGH-PRIORITY INITIATIVES THEY  BEEN WORKING ON HAVE BEEN  POSTPONED AND SLATED TO BE   REHEARD WITH NO CLEAR DECISIONS OR VOTES  THAT WERE MADE   REGARDING THE FUNDING FOR EARLY LEARNING. WHILE IT MAY BE THE   INTENTION OF YES THE AND COUNTY STAFF  TO RELEASE AN EARLY   CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, RFP, AND   TIME TO ALLEVIATE THE SQUEEZE , THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS THE  WILL OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS. IN  LIGHT OF THE DELAYED TIMELINE , UPCOMING APPOINTMENT OF NEW   COUNCILMEMBERS, THERE IS NO WAY TO REASONABLY ASSUME THAT THE   YES HE CAN OR WILL  RELEASE   FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN   THE TIMELINE  OUTLINED IN THE   STAFF RECOMMENDATION.  IF THEY E EXPECTED THAT  THE AGENCIES    AND THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES   CATEGORY WILL REVISE THE  APPLICATIONS  TO ALIGN WITH   SAVER CATEGORIES AND INUNDATING THE REMAINING CATEGORIES WITH   FUNDING REQUEST  IMPACTING   AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE   PROCESS, CONSIDER THE  RAMIFICATION TO LEADING   CATEGORIES ALTOGETHER    CURRENTLY APPLICABLE AGENCIES  MUST GO THROUGH THE STAGES  RATHER THAN APPROACH    COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY FOR  FUNDING, THIS WILL OPEN THE   DOOR FOR AGENCIES  TO START   INDIVIDUALLY SOLICITING THE   COMMISSION. I URGE YOU TO    CONSIDER THE HEALTH AND FABRIC  OF THE HUMAN SERVICES SECTOR,   MAINTAIN THE SITE OF CATEGORIES  UNTIL PROPER ANALYSIS CAN BE   DONE AND AGENCIES CAN PREPARE,  THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.    >> THANK YOU.    >> ROB  WENDY TYLER BUTLER  FONDA .  IT'S BEEN A GOOD  AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, ROB  RENZI  CEO OF  FAN CAMS. THE  FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY  THANK YOU FOR REDIRECTING STAFF TO COME BACK TO THE AGENCIES   AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS  THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING THAT ABOVE   AND BEYOND, THERE WAS A LOT OF  FEEDBACK. AND THIS PROPOSAL  IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN THE  ONE YOU SAW THE FIRST TIME.  IT IS STILL WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT  ISSUES AND CONCERNS FOR THE  AGENCIES.  THE FIRST IS YOUR   AGENDA ITEM THAT IS TWO ITEMS , THEY SENT WARNINGS TO THE  GOVERNOR, YOU HAVE VACANCIES ON THE CS HE, YOU  HAVE TERMS  EXPIRING, AND NOW  PERHAPS   GOVERNING THE STATE INSTEAD OF  RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. THOSE  APPOINTMENT  MAY ACTUALLY BE  MADE.  JUST LIKE THE COUNTY  COMMISSION , ONE CSC BOARD  CANNOT MAKE UP COMMITMENT FOR   THE FOLLOWING CS KEYBOARD.  AND  BEING INVOLVED WITH THE I.T.  AND WITH COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS,  LET'S SAY THAT THE CSC IS  VERY DELIBERATE.  AND THEY USE  VOLUNTEERS TO STAFF MEETINGS,   SOMETIMES THEY ARE ABSENT ,   THEN OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE  PRESENT FOR THE  CSC, AND BOAT  CHANGES.  ONE OF THE CONCERNS   THAT PUTTING ALL YOUR BASKETS   IN THE  MEETING WHERE ALL OF   THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PUSHED FROM JANUARY , YOU ARE SHRINKING THE  CSC PROCESS THAT IS DUE TO  START IN OCTOBER. IF IT DOES  NOT HAPPEN  IN MARCH, DOES A TO JUNE? IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO   RUN THE PROCESS?  SO, THAT IS   THE FIRST CONCERN, THE SECOND  IS THE ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE HAD  A SOUND ORDINANCE FOR YEARS NOW  WHERE IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR  CHSP YOU CANNOT COME  TO THE   COUNTY FOR FUNDING. SAME AS THE CITY.  BY CUTTING THE  CATEGORIES THEY DON'T HAVE TO  GO TO CSC, THEY CAN COLLECT IN  THREE MINUTES PER CARD  AND WE  GO DOWN THE PATH OF THE EVENTS  FUNDING, WHERE PEOPLE COME IN   AND CAN ASK FOR FIVE OR 10 OR   $15,000 AFTER THE MEETINGS    BECAUSE THE CHSP CATEGORY NO  LONGER EXISTS .  MY HOPE FOR  CONSIDERATION IS THAT YOU RUN  DOES GO ONE MORE TIME , AND IN  TWO YEARS, FIGURE OUT, LET THE   CSC HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH   THEIR PROCESSES, BE DELIBERATE  , FIND OUT WHO WAS BEING FUNDED , THEN MAKE YOUR CHANGES WITH  THE AGENCIES ALREADY HAVE  FUNDING  OR HAVE A WAY TO BE   FUNDED, THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU.    >> WILL FONDA, TO BE FOLLOWED  BY  ADRIANA SUTTON.    >> GOOD AFTERNOON.  I AM THE  CEO OF KIDS INCORPORATED.  IS   INCORPORATED OF THE BIG BEND IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT SERVES  CHILDREN FROM ZERO TO THREE   YEARS OLD AND THEIR FAMILIES.   WE ARE A RECIPIENT OF THE CHSP   IS AT THIS TIME.  AND WE HAVE  ALSO BEEN A PART OF THE  CRT   TEAMS AS WELL, WE HAVE LEARNED  IN SOME OF OUR STAFF TO SERVE  IN THOSE COMMITTEES. , WHILE I  UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE  REALIGNMENT OF THE  CHSP  PROCESS, I BELIEVE THAT  IT IS  A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY , AND A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE   COMMUNITY, TO CHANGE IT THIS.   WE CURRENTLY, OUR ORGANIZATION  IS  A COUNTRYMEN STATED, WE   RECEIVED $115,000 . WITH THAT  MONEY, WE ARE ABLE TO DRAW DOWN $460,000.  THIS IS WHAT WE POUR BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY.  WE   DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME WHAT   ACTIONS THE  CSC WILL TAKE ON   EARLY LEARNING.  SO, WE WOULD  LIKE TO SEE THAT , AT THIS   TIME, WE TAKE THE TIME TO TRULY SEE  THE IMPACT THAT THE   REALIGNMENT WILL MAKE  ON OUR   COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO VERY  MUCH.    >> THANK YOU.    >> ADRIANA JEAN SUTTON FOLLOWED BY JEAN BUTLER.    >> GOOD AFTERNOON , I'M THE  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR OF LADIES  LEARNING TO LIVE, I WANT TO  TALK ABOUT THE REALIGNMENT OF   CHSP CATEGORIES FOCUSED ON   CHILDREN  AND FAMILY, MORE  SPECIFICALLY  THE ELIMINATION   OF THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND  CATEGORY.  SINCE THE FOUNDING   OF 21  -- 2010 WE HAVE SERVED   THOUSANDS OF YOUNG LADIES    REPAIRING THEM FOR COLLEGE  CAREERS AND LIFE.  WHILE THE  CHSP PROCESS IS COMPETITIVE,   MEANING THAT NO ORGANIZATION    IS GUARANTEED FUNDING, THE LOSS OR  THE LOSS OF ACCESS FOR   OPPORTUNITY IMPACT  THE YOUTH   THAT WE SERVE.  WE ARE   CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH THE    YOUTH DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY, AND PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED FUNDING   THROUGH THE BRIDGE PROGRAM.    THE ELIMINATION OF THIS   CATEGORY WILL IN DOUBT   NEGATIVELY AFFECT  OUR ABILITY  TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO YOUTH IN THIS BIG BEND AREA.  OVERALL   OUR COMMUNITY ELEPHANTS FROM    MENTORING PROGRAMS LIKE OURS   AND OTHERS, AND  IN GENERAL THE COMMUNITY SEASON INCREASED    HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION RATE,   LOWER HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION   RATES, HEALTHIER RELATIONSHIPS  AND LIFESTYLE CHOICES AND   BETTER ATTITUDE ABOUT SCHOOL.   SPEAKING OF  L 3 SPECIFICALLY , 87% OF THE GIRLS THAT WERE A  PART OF THE PROGRAM , 100% THAT WERE PART OF THE PROGRAM HAVE   NOT HAD A CAREER MENTOR BEFORE. 87% OF THE GIRLS SAY THAT BEING A PART OF THE PROGRAM  GIVEN   MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO REAR FOR  THE CAREER AFTER HIGH SCHOOL.   91% SAID THE PROGRAM HELPED  THEM  TO BE INVOLVED WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.  93% SAID THAT THE PROGRAM HELPED THEM AVOID THE  MISCUES  SEXUAL ACTIVITY, AND  100% OF THE GIRLS SAID  THAT   AFTER PARTICIPATING IN THE   PROGRAM, THEY  FELT THAT THEY   HAD WHAT IT TOOK TO BE  SUCCESSFUL.  SO, I REQUESTED   THAT THE COMMISSIONER SEEK   GREATER ANALYSIS  OF THE IMPACT OF FAMILIES TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF SUCH A   DECISION BEFORE IT IS MADE . OR SUBSEQUENTLY IF THE AWARD   CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD , THAT   INCLUDES THE DOMINATION OF THE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND   MENTORSHIP CATEGORY, THAT YOU   GIVE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS   MORE TIME TO ADJUST  SUCH A   DRASTIC REALIGNMENT. THE   RECOMMENDATION IS THAT ANY   CHANGES TAKE EFFECT AFTER  THE  FUNDING PROCESS, MEANING THAT   THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE    SPRING OF 2026, THANK YOU.   >> THANK YOU, MS. SUTTON.    SYNECDOCHE BUTLER TO BE   FOLLOWED BY THE FINAL SPEAKER   SONIA WILSON.    >> THANK YOU. THE FIRST TIME ,  IN A T-SHIRT, MY NAME IS VICKI  BUTLER AND I AM THE  DIRECTOR  OF OPERATIONS. THANK YOU FOR   ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.  NORMALLY  I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT   HOMELESSNESS. I TALKED TO YOU   ABOUT THE FIGHT THAT WE ARE  DOING . TODAY I TALKED TO YOU  AS A PARENT.  YOU PROBABLY DID  NOT EXPECT THAT.  THIS IS A  RECENT GRADUATE FROM A CHILD   HIGH SCHOOL, I ALSO HAVE AN  AUTISTIC, CIVILIAN STATISTIC   NONVERBAL NEPHEW , 5 YEARS OLD. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE  OF --, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE  IMPORTANCE  OF THIS  REALIGNMENT.  I LOOKED PRETTY   CLOSELY AT THE PACKET  AND   CALLED YOUR STAFF MULTIPLE  TIMES  ASKING LOTS OF  QUESTIONS.  SOME OF THE THINGS  THAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT, I AM  TRYING TO BE SHORT WITH YOU.    THIS MONEY ALL COMES FROM TAX  DOLLARS , IT COMES FROM THE   SAME POINT . SO, WE HAVE GOT   MONEY GOING DIRECTLY TO  CHILDREN, WHICH IS GREAT,  OBVIOUSLY.  -- THE DIFFERENCE   IS THAT THIS MONEY IS COMMITTED TO THE CHILDREN.  TO ME, MONEY  THAT THE VOTERS HAVE SAID YOU   CANNOT TOUCH , THIS IS ONLY FOR CHILDREN, NOT CHILDREN PLUS A   ROAD PROJECT, CHILDREN PLUS  SOMETHING ELSE, YOU CANNOT    PUSH IT ASIDE AND SAY THERE IS  SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT, THIS  IS ONLY FOR CHILDREN AND   FAMILIES. TO ME THAT IS A  GUARANTEE.  MONEY THAT IS IN  CHS BE, IF SOMETHING IS MORE   IMPORTANT TO MY UNDERSTANDING,  IF SOMETHING  THAT IS MORE   URGENT AND MORE IMPORTANT, THAT MONEY  COULD BE CUT BACK AT ANY TIME. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, MAYBE I AM WRONG. TO ME, AS A  PARENT , I WANT  GUARANTEED   MONEY FOR MY KIDS, THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT TODAY. I AM NOT LOOKING AT WHAT THE REALIGNMENT MEANS , AGENCY. THOUGH IT IS   IMPORTANT FOR MY AGENCY. I AM   NOT GOING TO DOWNPLAY IT.  I AM LOOKING AT  WHEN AM I GOING TO  GIVE ALL MY KIDS FUTURE ? WILL  I GIVE A LITTLE KNOWING THAT    THE HSP MONEY IS ALWAYS GOING   TO BE THERE AT THIS LEVEL , OR  AM I GOING TO SAY THAT I KNOW   THIS STABLE, RENEWABLE FUND  WILL BE THERE EVERY YEAR. AND I WANT TO GAMBLE ON THAT. I AM A  SURE BET.  THAT IS HOW I  APPROACH IT. THE OTHER THING    THAT I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED   ABOUT WAS SEEING THE   INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE DIPPING  INTO PARTS.  THAT IS DOUBLE  DIPPING, IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT IS DOUBLE  DIPPING. THERE IS NO OTHER    POT.  THERE IS NO COUNSEL FOR  THE ELDERLY. THERE IS NOT    OTHER POTS OF MONEY BEING  CREATED  FOR OTHER AGENCIES TO  BE ABLE TO DO THAT  FROM. I DO  NOT WISH THEM ANY ILL WILL ,   BUT RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.  THANK YOU.  IT'S BEEN A I CAN SPEAK ON THE ISSUE , SONIA  WILSON?    >> ALL RIGHT , SORRY.  NO, I AM SONIA WILSON, THE EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR OF THE KEARNY CENTER.  WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE  THIS A  LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT  PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.  I SPENT   THE LAST 16 YEARS  LOOKING FOR  A PROFITABLE COMPANY.  SO, I  SUPERVISED OVER 200 STORES    OVER 13 STATES . I HAVE FELT    WHAT HOMELESSNESS WILL DO  TO   OUR BUSINESSES  IN OUR LOCAL   SHOPPING CENTERS.  IT IS A   SEVERE IMPACT  TO BOTH  HOMEOWNERS  AND TO LOCAL  BUSINESSES WHEN WE HAVE   HOMELESS PEOPLE  SLEEPING ON  OUR FRONT PORCHES AND THAT OUR  VECTORS.  WE MAY NOT WANT TO  LOOK AT IT , THAT THIS  ENCUMBERS  CUSTOMERS FOR  SHOPPING , BUT IT GREATLY  IMPACTS , WHAT ULTIMATELY   HAPPENS IS THE BUSINESS IS   CLOSED. THAT IS THE REALITY.    MY JOB SINCE I HAVE COME TO THE KEARNY CENTER  IS TRULY TO   ERADICATE HOMELESSNESS  IN  TALLAHASSEE , AND TO MAKE SURE  WE PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT TO  HELP THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO  TRANSITION  INTO  SELF-SUFFICIENCY , -- AND I ARE WORKING COUNTLESS HOURS.  THIS  IS A STAFF OF 35 PEOPLE  WE   OPERATE 365 DAYS A YEAR, 24  HOURS A DAY. IT IS A TALL LEFT  FOR US ON OUR FUNDING.  WE HAVE HAD TO CUT OUR STAFF IN ORDER   TO PROVIDE FOR OUR CLIENTS.  WE ARE IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL   BETTING, THE MAJORITY OF THIS   MONTH WE HAD OVER 400 CLIENT ,  WE ARE SERVING WELL OVER 1000   MEALS A DAY.  WHAT I DID NOT  TELL YOU IS THAT  I STARTED MY  HUMBLE BEGINNING AS A SOCIAL  WORKER WORKING FOR THE  DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND   CHILDREN SERVICES.  SO, I HAVE  A CONNECTION TO OUR FAMILIES  AND OUR CHILDREN.  LIKE VICKI   SAID, I WISH NOEL WILL . YOU   GUYS ARE IN A MOST DIFFICULT  SITUATION.  HAVING TO MAKE THE  CHOICE . BUT I CAN TELL YOU   THAT OUR MEAT CONTINUES TO GROW . AND IF WE ARE GOING TO   ERADICATE HOMELESSNESS , I NEED YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT    SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO  THE WORK THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED  TO DO AT THE KEARNY CENTER,  THANK YOU SO MUCH.    >> THINK YOU VERY MUCH.  SPIRIT THAT CONCLUDES THE  COMMISSIONERS PUBLIC SPEAKERS   ON THIS  PARTICULAR AGENDA   ITEM. WE HAVE  A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED AT 6:00 , I IMAGINE  THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM  WILL HAVE SOME VERY ROBUST  DISCUSSION, AND I WOULD RATHER  NOT INTERRUPTED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.  SO, WHAT WE WILL DO   NOW IS WE WILL RECESS UNTIL  6:00 , WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC  HEARING AT 6:00'S , THEN WE   COME BACK TO THE PARTICULAR   ITEM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.    >> THOSE OF YOU IN THE  AUDIENCE, WE WILL  TAKE UP THIS ITEM AFTER OUR PUBLIC HEARING  AT 6:00. I DON'T EXPECT A   PUBLIC HEARING TO BE BEFORE  THEN.  OTHER THAN ONE OR TWO   MINUTES AT THE MOST, ONE TO  FIVE MINUTES, THEN WE WILL TAKE OUR POSITION, THANK YOU SO   MUCH.