--------- The Liberty County School Board Works on Monday, June the 30, 2025. Come to order. Second discussion. We go with discussion of the budget and the buses. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Hey, couple things. U y'all some some uh some links
on this. I know y'all been asking about buses. I'm going to start with with uh and kind of maybe end on the buses cuz uh we we can there's some stuff there that fairly self-explanatory, but I'll I'll explain as much and ke appreciate
Kevin providing some of the those those budget numbers on financing for those buses. First of all, um uh I want to this is just a way of thank you. Uh I went to threat management training last week. Ricky Sansom is a leader in the
state. I'm telling you. And I I bragged on him this morning. The the people that head up um school safety from a training perspective and threat management. Um they they if I had a dollar for every time Ricky's name was mentioned, I'd
have been able to eat supper for free that night. I appreciate him. He had he you know thing here's what I didn't know. He's helping them with different trainings. They're asking him to come in on some Zoom things for rural districts and I I some of that I did not know and they shared with me and and I I
appreciate the job Ricky Sansom does. He's just phenomenal at what he does and keeping us safe and uh keeping everybody trained, keep you keeping these uh all of these boxes you have to check for inspections and uh accountability and compliance. Uh and he's probably going
to hit me after today. Uh, but he he's very humble, but he's very good at what he does. And I appreciate Ricky and the job he does for that. Um, one of the things that's going to help us on budget this year, and I'm going kind of kick on that. This this is going to make y'all really happy. Y'all ready to be made
happy? Yes, sir. I might need a uh Tony drum. Yeah. Um, this year it it appears we are going to be able to do online forms for the beginning of the school year. So, hello.
You are kidding me. Finally. So this will save like $9,000 in Okay, I'm just kidding about the figure. So I want to thank Mandy and I am I'm getting to it. And Jenna Chason who works for Mandy. Um
so so we we we've been talking about this and a way to have an online you know beginning school thing, you know, with with like Mason's got, you know, kids in the That's a that's a a two or three or four
day endeavor and for him him and Jennifer. So anyway, we uh we've probably got 80% of the forms online now. Um there's some little bugs that we're fixing. Nothing major. Here's what this is the plan. As of right now, we're
going to we're going to encourage parents in July. Go ahead and start doing that when they know those kids and they get a jump on it. Open house. she'll be set up at open house. Um if they are not in focus then they those parents can get logged on. It encourages
them to be active in focus about knowing what's going on with their kids education with grades with reporting with communication parent square all those things but those online forms. So um uh I've personally went through the portal and and so she's got me set up uh
with her kid as I'm I'm I'm now Lex's daddy. So yeah, he's got 70 parents now. We're using him as the example of being able to fill out those things. So anyway, uh she's worked with some of our data entry folks as well. Uh I think it's going to be a hit with parents. Um
and so I'm excited to tell y'all about that. I I am I am thank you. Thank the whole team, whoever worked on this is the big I I don't know. Now, couple questions because I when you go online, you you get a whole another you're going
to get these questions. Marketing it like you said, start it now. Start it now. That's right. Giving them the option of there's a lot of grandparents out there, okay, that's raising their kids. So, we we need to be very cautious, you know, give them
opportunities, windows to even are are we still are we still going to accept paper? We can print that directly from focus for them. Yes. Okay. If you've got a a 70, you know, I know I ain't saying nothing about but I'm I know I I'm not
as smart on technology. So, so um you know, just giving them those options is very very important. Especially with open house, there'll be four or five different people that are there. this last year
to people who aren't loying to me. I mean, I I wasn't obsessive with my children, but I checked it at least once or twice a week, depending on the time. A lot of people who have not even set up their focus account that it that honestly will be our first hurdle. It's
not people that want the online forms. Yeah, everyone has a cell phone and you can um we've even practiced with um will have to do Mason y'all will have to do for all four kids because I know that'll be a question just because your kids may have different allergies,
different you know right all that kind of stuff. So, but it would save you know if you're already typing in Jennifer it's going to autopop populate that so you don't have to type that particular word or your address or whatever. um kids who are already here. It's just a matter of going
every year. Will we have have to review it every year? Review it. I agree. But do you have a no changes like click here no changes? You have to it'll be like by page. So like you'll go through this page and you know go
but you have to literally go through all that. It say no change and we know good and well you've changed your cell phone. I was on medication and they've got an allergy and you didn't, you know, like just forcing people to go through and
just check it. Uhu. Um, who are we going to put as a contact for this? I think it's very very important that we have an administrator assistant administrator guidance counselors and data entry at every so literally we're going to put on there
if you have questions regarding this system contact the principal and assistant train them and we've already had a training with data entry that some of they've come over met in the library because I met with them to see what this looks like. Yeah. And and we actually click and put names in there and stuff
like that. But it will become part of the regular onboarding for new students. Right. I just that's a lot for principles and assistant principles to be administrators especially when you know a new system like still through the guidance office. Yeah. Okay. Just make
sure that we we're real we are we are ready to go. I mean I you know let it go now but but but just make sure that we're very cautious about people that are not as technology savvy. Yeah. you know, and this is new. We got to be
patient, right? You know, maybe people don't go on. We we I don't know if we've got a way to we're going to start checking and making sure how many we've got. My next question is technology again. Um database. How is this where is this going to be stored at? Is it backed
up on the cloud? I assume it would be. Is this going to blow us up? No, it's just part of focus. Focus. Okay. So, it's in focus there. Just Okay. Okay. Instead of Liddell having to go in and manually stuff, you'll you'll be fixing your kids account. Okay. Okay.
I I just because we I think we talked about it before, you know, about we're still see we're still using this except except that data entry person takes those forms and does data entry. That's huge. And it's massive. It's massive. So So this way the parent does it, but
we're already we already have these pages built in there. Now it gives the parent access to be able to come in there and do that. So look, I I would say probably it's going to take a year we'll have a year or two of growing pains will and then parents start figuring out it become the big thing the plus is getting parents
engaged and focused knowing what their kids are doing. We going to I mean I haven't seen really and maybe I've just not seen this but I mean maybe we need to start marketing focus and saying get on Facebook, get on you know hey do you
know how important this is? Yeah, we'll start doing that in July. We hadn't put we hadn't rolled over the year yet. No, I I think we need to do a little outreach. Oh, there will no doubt. I think I think parents are going to be very pleased with that. Do we have a way of doing like a mass email to the
ones that already in the system? Say, "Hey, focus is coming." Here's here's this date. Here's this date where you email it all out. Parent Square and all ahead of time parent square. Some of some of them don't have it. Parent Square. What was our It's over 99%.
have a lot more engagement in parent. Testing it at the high school with Those are our two big things. Will it Will it go to um like tickets if you want to buy? So like if she builds in for those parking spaces when she sends that out,
you send in your $20 or whatever through parents where when she pulls out parking spaces has $200. What about like gate entry for athletic events? fan. That's all tickets are through. That'll stay that way. Yeah. So
that'll that'll stay there. You're not migrating that. Did you So on the on the focus side, will will parents be encouraged or reminded and or able to update information at any time for their kids?
Their phone number change, address changes. So we should be able to if we're setting reminders, we should have really up-to-date information on students is is the theory here. That's great. that I think that's great. Well, I mean that's always the you have a pile do it and then you'll have others
who want to just won't touch it and don't care about nothing. Okay. So, anyway, that I I'm going to try to get y'all out of here pretty quick. I got a few things I want to share uh about the budget and and if you have questions, please stop me along the
way. Um I just found out this morning uh uh Dulan sent out an email. Y'all should have got that as well that Dannis is signing the budget today. So, I expect a veto list uh prior to that. I've been sitting here refreshing my phone to to
see if that's come when that's coming in, but it will happen today. The other thing that's going to happen today is school grades and district grades. Uh by statute, it has to be done by June 30th. We were me and Jeff, we talked, we're together this weekend. We were thinking it'd been Friday at five o'clock. It did
not happen. Um, so all of that will come out today and we'll we'll forward that information. Uh, probably do a little public statement, whatever whatever that has. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so just a few things about the
the coming budget. You know, by now the budget's already been signed. We kind of know a little bit about what we're dealing with with student allocation dollars and some of the categoricals. I sent y'all a uh an FEFP uh thing that came out on uh the conference report was
June 13th, which was the last one when the uh when the legislature met uh a few weeks ago, and kind of wrap that up. And that is all tentative. So there's nothing definite in there, but there are some things in there that I would encourage you to look at that affects our budget and some of the the
allocations that they have agreed on. Again, this is all pending what the what the governor's going to veto. I'm being told by Duelan that he's looking at about $155 million of vetos. That's got to come from somewhere and I don't know what that means. The other thing that
affects our budget. Uh and again have no idea what this looks like. Uh Governor DeSantis has pushed the idea of eliminating property tax. I know y'all heard that in the news. Uh, you know, that's a that's a really bold move and a
and a and a and a foundational change to our taxing structure uh in the in the country and the state, but especially in the county. I think our total ad Valorium tax revenue for Liberty County is a little over $3 million. So, you know, we're heavily dependent on state
dollars, but we still do have some money coming in. That does change our required local effort if we, you know, we're able to keep that money. How much of that I mean how does that change rle what I I don't know what that looks like. I've never you know we've never had that kind
of uh found that foundational change to have to do. So I don't know what that's going to do with some of these numbers that you're going to see in FFP because it it already has uh you know your your allocations for for what we contribute in there. So I don't know I I would love
to tell you I know more about that but I don't I we may not know till today. Um, one of the the things that Dan, Governor DeSantis has said is for fiscally constrained counties that they would sub they that we would not have to pay the the three, you know, the 3 million plus
that there would be some kind of subsidy. I don't, again, it's just it blows my mind how you do that. I'm not saying I'm against it. I'm just saying I don't know what that looks like structurally. Um, so that's that we'll get probably more idea today. Usually by this time of the year, we already know.
Um we are doing some restructuring with our 21st century. Um you know one of the things that we have seen is that u the the line share of that grant was going into administration and we wanted to restructure that a little bit. So we've making some change in personnel with
that and and kind of reassigning some responsibilities. Um and so one of the things we want to do is to get we've had high turnover with teachers and with site coordinators and the and the staff. It's just been a a a high turnover. We want to pay them more money. So, we're
looking at at like for teachers going from $22 an hour to $30 an hour. Again, it's all covered with in the within the grant. Site coordinators from $25 to $35. There's a lot of uh structural change. I mean, uh a lot of responsibility that comes with those
positions, but uh we're we're not asking anybody for any more money. We're just restructuring that grant a little bit for the new school year to be able to try to keep staff where they are and to keep them happy. And hopefully uh as you know, we were talking about with the Florida virtual, you know, that being a
12-month position, well, hopefully if some of these will will vive for some of these positions and there's quite a few of them, they'll they'll be able to work even in the summer as we've got 21st century going right now. So, that's a that's a big deal. We we're restructuring uh that that student
enrollment is up and it is down. Um the incoming ninth grade class coming into the high school, believe it or not, is usually around 100. This year it's about 80. Uh it's just a small class and you have those small classes and then you'll have those large classes. But we are taking a lot of out of district kids in
at the high school. So part of that's been made up with out of district kids. Um Toller has been pretty pretty uh steady with their numbers. Uh Hosford's uh is down. We've got some kids that uh I think the brunt of our home education is coming out of out of the Hostford
community, but we've got some Hostra kids coming over to Toller. So, we're we are being very um open to taking in those out of district kids. And again, you know, we we we make them abide by some rules, uh discipline, uh grades, and attendance. That's a big thing. Uh
that's why focus is such an important part of what we do. You know, when you have parents say, "I didn't know my kids missed that many days." Well, they have access on their phone through a focus app that they can check that at any time, anywhere. So, we really want to get them involved in knowing what's
going on. Believe it or not, uh I I I struggled with right up until the day of graduation where a kid some a kid didn't finish what they needed to finish and and the parents were did not did not know how many absences their kid had and
exactly what classes they even though those those communications went out um they they missed it. they missed it and and you know we can only do but so much and it takes parents doing their part and for the most part they do but you know we're trying to increase parental
participation in that in that process. Um as I mentioned before and I'm checking these off my box big beautiful bill hopefully by the end of the week Senate will move on that the house has approved it uh that within that for our forest funding is a three-year extension of SRS money which is safe and rural
schools. Um, so I'm I'm just I'm banking on that. Um, uh, if I'm honest with you, uh, we have not had very good help out of our, uh, representative in Congress. Not our senator, our representative. I'll leave it at that. Y'all know what I'm talking about. Uh, he has been very
unresponsive to, uh, calls, visits, uh, pleadings. Has just been, uh, he's been awall. I have a a quick question though that we were 300,000 short this this fiscal year. I guess the last day that we're in. If it if it passes and goes
into next fiscal year, is there a payback to this year where we could get this year's money or is it only to next year? Well, it would be it would be for 25 and then or 25 26 27. So you you'd almost get two for two in one year, I
would think. Yeah, you'd probably get two in one year. Okay. So, it would be like that that that we missed this year showed down. We would basically get a double up basically. It would be an acrual or something like that. Correct. It's a three-year extension. Um, that gives us some wiggle room and and a
little bit of relief to not have to worry about it year after year. And there's been a few years we've had to worry about it year after year. I actually have a random question on that. So, I've seen a lot of of write up on how Trump is about to start harvesting timber off of federal lands. Have you
heard about any of that? Seen any of that? You don't you know? So, we would Yeah. So, we had we did have that I had that discussion with Rick Scott. Um we we would love that. That would be awesome for the county to go back and and harvesting even if they just clean the the the growth each year. Just
thinning the forest of the growth each year would net the Liberty County School Board about a million dollars a year and the county about a million dollars a year. We'd be triple what we're getting bas and it'd be awesome. It'd be awesome. be proper proper so that's that
for correct that's got to that really needs to happen um should happen I mean philosophically should happen but uh there is such a strong lobby with the Sierra Club um they are they I just
didn't realize how big they were to a few years ago but they are they really they don't want you to cut any tree down so they're going to try their best to find right now they're deal they deal with a salamander down there That beautiful salamander. It's a salamander. You know, started out started out, you
know, with the the woodpecker. I could tell you a story about the salamanders. So, when Andy's paving highway 65, they had to go in and cut holes in the fencing. Yeah. So, the salamanders cross the road through the holes back out in
the forest. So, you can imagine men down there cutting little holes in the silk fence. In the silk. Yeah. Yeah. The fence. Not lying by kept salers from here. Yes, they had to cross the road, have a hole to go through the fence. Had to be a certain size. They did that for Highway 27 with gophers. They they made
made a big wall for that. So anyway, if if they will do that, uh that would sure give us some some wiggle room on our on our budget. Um so a little bit about bud budget rollover just to kind of bring you up to speed. you know, we we take last year's budget and we kind of roll
that over so we can start spending money in July. And then, you know, once July's numbers come in from June's expenditures, then this is where Katie probably spends most of her time is making the adjustments based on whatever the budget is. So, uh, you know, she
she's like the rest of us, she more so than the rest of us. What is the final budget going to look like from the state? And again, by now she'd already have that. we don't have that um this next year we won't have that problem because they go it's an election year so session will start in January so this
won't be as hopefully an issue uh come next year so uh she'll start making those adjustments based on whatever the legisl the you know the the changes are uh which we will not know until maybe later today. Um our our budget
appropriations right now are looking good. Our track is in PICO dollars. Our bus is in K12. I, you know, we went through the legislative process. We went through committee. We went through all of the things, the hearings. Um, there was many things that came in in the
11:30 hour that got thrown in there and they made the turkey list, which u is always published. Obviously, we're not on the turkey list, never have been. We've gone through that. Uh, I believe probably that's the lowhanging fruit for the governor is to do that. But it's politics, so there's always those things
that, you know, a Senate President wants or a house speaker wants. But they're they've they fought so bad this year. I don't know. I don't know who who loves who and who hates who. Um, but that's where that's at. Uh, health insurance, that is always a big topic in the summer. Um, we talked about it last
board meeting. So, I've got a meeting set up on July the 16th at 9:00. Mason, I think I sent you an invite for that. Katie, Katie's gonna be there. Jeff's gonna be there. If any of y'all want to be there, that is absolutely fine. We just need to notice the meeting and keep
minutes and and do that. We could do that in here if we wanted to, if y'all wanted to do that as a workshop. But if y'all, since y'all have assigned Mason to be a part of that, he can be the representative on the board. Uh I think Miss Jody, Miss Jody made that recommendation. And that's fine. He needs, you know, we need we need board
representation in that meeting. So, let me tell you a little bit what that is. It's called the Florida Educator Health Trust. Um, what we are considering and be what we'll be looking at is a self-funded insurance program. Uh, Calg County has been self-funded uh since
1985. They currently have about $3 million in reserves in their health insurance trust. Um, when we first started talking about it in the early 2000s, I know when I got on the board, we had those discussions about being self-funded. We
had we had multiple cancer patients at that time and the claims were outrageous. And at that time, we were told we we it probably wouldn't be a good idea for us. Um, and so I think it's one of those things that we need to revisit if we felt like this was a good
move uh to be able to save some money on health insurance premiums. Uh Ted Roush is now heading this up. Ted uh just resigned at the end of May or June, I can't remember, uh as the chancellor. Uh
he was a former Swany County superintendent. He went over and became the chancellor of K12 and now uh he only worked that job for four months or so and uh and he is now working with FADS.
This is a uh a derivative of the Florida school board in uh Florida school board's insurance trust which is fsbit. Um it's now called the Florida Educator Health Trust. So what they're trying to do is get as many school districts involved for buying power. Okay. Um it
it kind of maximizes kind of what Pace is doing. PACE right now only has Walton County, Jackson County, and Calhoun County. But uh they are all cons and I do mean all considering I've already had Daryl call me this morning. We're all considering trying to maybe jump and and possibly look at this. Is this a good
thing? I think with the the number of younger teachers that we have, the good healthy teachers and and again, you know, we we you got to cover anything and everything that comes across. I think it's worthy of discussion and to and and and and to look and see if that's going to be a cost-saving measure for us in health insurance because
health insurance health insurance premiums continue to go up and up and we negotiate negotiate but it's still still an increase every year. Um and you know this might be something where we stabilize that or maybe even have a reduction. Yep. You know all right so I
haven't seen the numbers. I haven't had the conversations. I haven't looked at it, but I'm just telling you right now, I bet there's about a 90% chance that this will save money and be better for the district. Something like that. I agree with you. So, in other words, this isn't something that you're going to look at and be like, "Oh, this this just
isn't it." The the dynamic and the shift in the nation for health insurance is this. I mean, and if you want to be able to stay alive as a business, as a government that's not funded by the state for state insurance, this is something you're going to look at. So I say that to say this this is likely this
is a high probability this will be something that y'all want to do when you see the numbers just put it on your I'm going to agree with that everything that I've talked to Ted about and these other district and so we've got a bunch of districts all around us since I've already signed he said it's about a two to three week turnaround to go ahead and
implement. So what the kind of the schedule what we'll do is we'll we'll have our meeting on the 16th and then we'll workshop that probably you know within a week or two of that. let y'all let y'all see it. Have Ted come over again. We'll talk about that and then kind of see which direction I'll have a
recommendation for y'all. When does our contract end or I know we're it renews in October. October. Okay. We have a contract. Yep. Yep. Yeah. So there there are a ton of
derivatives and again I don't know it but yeah you you got a card and there's a major medical carrier like a group that you say hey here's my card and and I mean it looks forward facing to everybody that has the insurance it will likely look again I haven't looked at it
will likely look identical to what you're doing right now hey I need to I need to go in and have a Huh? What's that hospital taking? No, it'll be it'll be the same thing, but rather than pay the premiums to that health care, you pay
them here and and we we cover that. So, if you have if you here's where you here's where you save money for your your folks, is that and I'm totally making this figure up for argument sake. So, if you had uh a million dollars in premiums that you took in and you only
had $500,000 in claims, well then you bank that $500,000 rather than CHP keeping it. So, I still don't have my C. You'll have the same coverage. Yes. None of that changes. Have the same coverage. Change.
Hey, question. Just cost you less money. Hopefully, rather than sending them the premiums, you pay you pay us. We we become the the school board becomes the broker. Question. Um is this going to require us to have another position to handle insurance?
Don't know. We'll figure that out. We'll figure that out. Question. I didn't I didn't hear that. Very well could um is this going to require us to have another person? Very well. To handle to handle the insurance internally because we paid
somebody I want I I'm probably stopping. What What was it? a contract prior, huh? You're talking about the Didn't we pay somebody extra to to handle the insurance? But then they were wearing other hats and
supplement. But that's nobody gets that. Nobody in my Right. I know that. Yes. I know that. That's That's what I'm saying because with us taking it on, Kyle, let me make the recommendation and I I can't speak for again. I can't speak for other board members, but if we're taking in if
we decide to go this route and we're taking insurance, we need an insurance person, right? Let's don't try this where wearing hats. No, no, no. Because it and that'll be part of the discussion. What what what what will be the infrastructure needs here at the
district? That those will be the questions we'll ask. Absolutely. Because I I just don't want us to get back into a situation where you call somebody and you you say, "Well, you can call a 1-800 number, right?" Yeah. I don't again, I don't know the look, but it could be that group, right? They already have an
agent and then they have an administrator and then they have the carrier for the insurance. They It's probably packaged. Again, we'll find out. It's probably packaged. We just don't want to undermine our c internal customer service. Yeah. It's probably packaged where you'll have somebody to
call when there's a problem. That's that's their job is to fix that, right? And it's not a customer service. It's like an an agent that has to earn your business. I agree with that. I I I understand what you're saying. We had that before, too. And but internally
when you know, we don't have an HR department. We don't have an HR department who handles insurance. Lee, that's what I'm saying. and and and yeah, I'm not about big government, but we really need to think going to cover
the need cover the need. We need somebody and not that not to get a 1-800 number reply. A local contact. I agree. I don't think it's going to be a hiccup taking the money because you already take the money out of people's checks anyway. I mean, the only thing they're going to
worry about is like she said, well, when you call, you know, we paid somebody eight $9,000 supplement and you call them and that that's what Jod's getting out. I believe she don't want to say, "Okay, we're going to call these people and they say, "Oh, we're paying them." But then they say, "Hey, just call this number. They'll handle you." Right. That's no question internally and
trained and and knowledgeable and knows the ins, the outs, everything. Subject matter expert. Subject matter expert. A person. It may be part It may be 20 hours a week, right? But we need somebody, y'all.
Okay. So, anyway, excite I'm actually very excited about that. I think that's going to be a good thing. Um, if you look through the FEFP thing that I sent y'all, um, you'll you will see something that that will will shock you. TSIA
money uh has been cut in half to about $40,000. Um, that's a that's a major problem. Again, that could change after today. We'll see. Uh, I know that's been the governor's uh baby is to get the bottom
to 475 and and to see the legislature cut that. I don't know if that was done out of spite or what, but he could put more money in that. I hope he does. Uh, we need we need that. Um, and they did put money in there to fund what's already been the increase. you what you
will see within the the uh the conference report is the increase in fees which is the empowerment scholarship. So we call them PE scholarships, home education that is blowing up and taking a lot of money out of school districts. It's it's in the in
the billions. Question Kyle. Yes, ma'am. Um just a thought. Has this what you're sharing with us? Has this been sent out districtwide, all the teachers, everything to let them know what's going on in our budget? No, because it's not final. Okay. Well, when it is, I think
that teachers need I I do I I always send it out. I do. I just It needs to be final and I will send that out. Okay. I will make sure that they understand what happened in our budget. Sure. Very transparent. Um, let me see if there's anything else
here. I got the um okay so um see legislative no products okay so let's go to the buses and then I'll I'll wrap this thing up um so in the past uh and this happened when
I was a board member we finance buses there's a finance program um and I sent y'all this on the thing you can pay the money up front or you can pay it in a rears um and So what I've given or what
Kevin has provided for us is five buses or three buses if we want to do this. We have done this before. Excellent program. Um and and you know the interest rate obviously if you pay in a rears uh the interest rate's a little higher about
five 5.28. It's a little less than five if you do it kind of upfront and do annual those uh annual payments. Um, this is mainly for your information. Um, these buses are not cheap. Obviously, if
you know, you can look at the prices. If you do them in the rears, it's a little bit more. If you do it upfront or the annual payments, let me see, make sure I'm telling you right. Yeah, if you do it, if you do the annual payment, it's about $179,000 if we're doing three buses. So, call it
about 180 about a half a million dollars in buses. Um, so again, like like I say, this is very good if you if if if you can afford to make the monthly payment. That's the big thing. I'm I'm I want to consider this.
Yes, sir. Have Have we So, as far as the financing on this, I'm assuming it's through maybe the manufacturers like financer or something like that. Have we looked local like uh to local areas to say, "Hey, would y'all be willing to finance our buses? We're
looking at three to five. What rates would you offer?" I mean, they might I mean, here's the deal. We don't have any debt, right? We have steady income coming in. We're local. I think we're pretty solid financially. Maybe they'll give us a better rate. What have we looked at that option on an interest
rate? I Well, you you can do that. The thing the thing is is that you're you're not paying it all upfront. You know, if if if they would if uh let's say the credit union would allow us to make an annual payment, you know, uh I think it's
worthy of looking at um but we have not we have not looked at that. I mean, we're looking at 25 to 50 in interest, you know, over that threeyear period, depending on when we do it. If we can get it down to 20, you know, I mean, 20 to it's a savings, you know. I mean, it it's going to save us a decent amount of
dollars if we go this rate. I I'd be interested in keeping financing local anyway to local businesses if they're willing to to do something like that. And I think they would. So So here's the thing. So in in four years, we've gotten two new buses on legislative appropriations.
This this is my my suggestion. If the if the legislature wants to give us money for buses and we don't have to pay for them, that's that's that's a best case scenario. Um, I don't see us doing a big project ask for next year, you know, as
far as saying I need $985,000 like we did for the fieldhouse or, you know, a half a million dollars for a track and all that. I'm I'm for asking for a couple buses. And I I'll tell you, this blew my mind. Washington County got a million dollars. Their school board
got a million dollars and it's under and I don't it could very I've been told it's probably going to get vetoed but they went through the process and got a million dollars and it's and it's labeled operational assistance. Um I mean that's just like here here's
money for your budget. I I was blown away. I've I I went through that budget through with a fine tooth comb and I didn't see anything that where somebody just asked for money billion dollars operational. didn't have to outline what the money was to be used for. Yep. They
said, "We are a self-funded insurance program and we just don't want to go basically we don't want we we don't want to be underwater because of insurance rates going up. So, we need operational assistance money." Boom. And it was about three, you know, my narrative is quite longer. Theirs was about three
sentences. So, anyway, I I'm I'm I watch that, you know, and it's in the budget right now. It is in there. Yep. Yep. Jay Trumbull and uh the pharmacist guy. Uh Shane Abbott is the representatives over that way. So anyway, I say all that to
say this. Um I got really good traction in the legislature this year on that bus. Um Chris Dulan really helped us out our transportation dollars and this this is a little over I think $300,000. If you'll look in that FFP funding, I
mean that that just don't cover near what Kevin needs to run buses, to buy buses, to maintenance buses, to to maintenance staff, salaries, all that stuff. I mean, it's just never enough. And the state knows that. They probably fund 50% of what our actual cost is.
But, um, you know, if we can get these buses for free, that is a best case scenario. Um, I I want to milk that as much as we can. Um, I will do another budget request. Legislature meets in January, so I'll be doing another
legislative budget request probably in August and September. Um, I would I would like to hold out long enough for two things. Number one, let's see what the budget looks like. We're going to be tight in the budget and and again, this is due to students. We've got to we've got to be very tight. I think the things
that we want to accomplish, we've talked about accomplishing addressing uh compression with our non-instructional salaries. We've got to address that. Um and and I think we'll be able to do that. I'll have that ready for you at the July board meeting. But we've got to be very
very intentional on not spending money that we don't have. And so u you know that big annual payment of 179,000 or 159 or somewhere that's a lot of money um that I want us to be very careful. So, I would like two things. Let's see
where the budget is after today and end of this summer. Um, and then number two, if if if I feel like from talking to our legislators, they'll fund us a couple more buses, I'll put two in this year. Kyle, um, again, that's great. They're
great. Um, I don't bank a lot on the legislature. They're very unstable, especially right now. Um, and and and I do want to I think that's a great idea. Let me go back. If we were to pay payments, that's an expense payment.
That's not, you know, that's if not FCO, that's coming out of it's expense money. So, I think it is reasonable for us to look at that if we had the expense money. Number two, I want to really focus on trying to put one to two buses
in as a standing item in our budget every year. Jackson County does it. I mean, they had 14 schools. Now, you said down there down to 10. I think they closed up some, but they do whatever. They just put it as a standing item. If we work to get the two buses, great. We
don't use it. We got that money. But if we don't put it as a standing item, at least one. And I know Kevin has said that's not going to get us where we need to be. It's not. But you, Kevin, it's better than nothing. and and if he goes
for two and we were to get one, then we got three buses. If we want, you know, if we wanted to do that, that's I just want a standing item, right? Well, I tell you what I tell you what Melanie did. She was able over two years, so we got the legislative money for the that
first bus we got. And so what she did, what we talked about doing was save money over two years and then put it in the budget. And that's what that's how we paid for the second bus. So th this will actually be the third bus. second bus through a legislative thing. One we budgeted, but it took us a couple years
to kind of kind of budget for that or to kind of save some money for that one. Well, I I again I would like to see it just let's look at it what it to budget it and then with it without the budget. If we don't have the money, then we don't have the money. I get it. But I I
still think we need to make the effort. That's why I said that that'd be choice number one. Look at the budget. See if we have room in there. Um and here's the deal. I I don't h and I say this with all the love of my heart. I don't have to tell them that I budgeted for one. They're not asking. So, you know, if I
could budget for one and then give me one. Even better. That's what I'm saying. Even better. Now, what what I just heard you say was and I hear that a lot. I mean, let's and I'm just not going to pick on Kevin here, but I'll pick like Ricky. Ricky, you don't I don't personally don't think you get
enough run money to run safety. That's my personal opinion. But what we don't see every year and maybe I've not seen it or in the form that I'm used to it because LBR's you know when I would love to see an LBR come out of these offices
to say Kevin says look I need this I need this and I need this much money a budget request to the board and then we say hey Kevin we we can do that we work that out and we negotiate that out.
Ricky, same thing. If you getting $54,000 or whatever to 80,000, hopefully you get some more. Um, they're going back down. Okay. So, I would love to see them tell us the board what they need.
Okay. So, I' I know you might see that, but I don't see it. Yeah. So, so here here's a couple things. This is what's helped us. So, number one, they've not told us no on a legislative appropriation in four years, which has been a blessing. Yes, absolutely. But the way I work those things and and and
being able for them to to not say no is the first thing they'll say is, "Do you have money coming in somewhere other funding source? What do you have a funding source?" So if if and again it doesn't mean we can't ask for it, but if they say if I tell them, okay, I need I
need something to secure a school, whatever that thing is, and they say, well, we gave you $300,000 or we gave you that. Why is that not enough? It's a little harder of a sale compared to something that we have no funding coming in and be able to say this is this is
what our big need is. One of the, you know, we made that and Kevin helped, you know, draw draft this. We made that big F uh what was it called? The wish list or the things that we needed and we've slowly but surely been checking those off, you know, one by one. And I' and I
I've tried to use that as a guide because we made it what eight year eight years ago to try to we had a lot of physical needs. There was a lot of physical things that we were not going to get any kind of FT money for, no kind of grant money for as far as you know
allocations, uh the track, softball field, those kind of things. and and we're starting to wind some of that down, you know, from the from from the physical plant. Um, but, you know, something like, you know, a breezeway or something, if you wanted to do that, then that would be an absolute one of
those type things that you could ask for, you know. Yeah. And and I think I think we're saying the same thing but in a different Yeah. I'm talking about an internal. I'm talking about Ricky, Kevin, Katie, Mandy, each department
saying, "Hey, here's my budget request for this fiscal year. And if Kevin's not got enough money, if he needs two vehicles, if he needs two more buses, if he needs these parts or this lawnmower, this whatever, come to us in the
beginning when we're creating the budget, when we're looking at the budget and say, "Hey," and then we all sit down and say what we can, just like the legislature does when they get all these LBRs in. Same thing, come to the board. So, we do we do do that. I mean, you know, Kevin, you know, one of the things
he said is we need some vehicles. we and so you know we were able to say what money do we have we were able to do that with a lot of the co money you know we got three vehicles out there sitting you know that's been a huge blessing but I think if we did it in the time of the budget we would be better in a better stance
six eight months down the road when he's saying uhoh we've got to you know this lawnmower I told y'all about we we got to do it now you know so I all I'm doing is trying to get in a budget stance when we go into these budget meetings this
summer, you know, and sit down and say, "Look, Katie, just like insurance, if we going to need an insurance and it's going to go in under Katie or Jeff or whoever, what's that look like?" Cuz we got to know how much we going to pay a person, what's the benefits going to be?
That's got to be incorporated into that budget. We don't we don't need to about what you need to budget for this next year. These interventions and we're losing that that Katie doesn't know what interventions
about X dollars. She's not you want for those kind of conversations. I would love to see it in a document. I would say, you know, like you said, we're losing this. We're doing that. So, like last year, it can be a one or two pager. It doesn't have to be massive,
but I would love to see it. You know, this next year is going to be a bigger adoption year. So, this year was small with just that kind of stuff. So, it's stuff that we don't. So, if she were budgeting next year, she might only budget $30,000, but really we
need to budget. So, if we had these I don't know how other I don't watch other school boards, but if we had these conversations when we go to budget, Mandy said stands up and says, "Look, this is why I asked for this. This is why we did this. We went up. We went down." you know, those kind
of conversations will help us make a better budget decision because I think we we just need to delve more into it instead of you handing us a number and saying, "Hey, we know why they're putting them here, but we don't we don't
we know you went to Kyle. We know you talked, but it would I think it would be good for each one to say, "Look, this is why we did what we did and why we asked for what." And then y'all, you know, Kaden say we got the budget or we didn't have the budget to do this, you know, and I I I just I would like to get a
little bit deeper into the budget. Okay. I really would and and let them explain what they need to us and it helps us carry the torch. You know, we can get better on board and understand more. Sure. Sure. Okay. Uh so, uh a thought on
all that if I may. Am I cutting you off, Kyle, or you? I'm I'm I'm I think I'm done. Okay. So, I I 100% agree. Uh I honestly this is my first round of it, so I don't really know what to expect and the culture of this. Um but being in
governing accounting, business accounting for a long time, I I have a an idea of the structure that I would like to see and I think that's exactly the structure I would personally like to see as a breakdown of this. Um a a few of my thoughts. Um,
I do agree with Jody. I would like to see on the bus side of things, I would like to explore the financing option, but at the same time on the LBR, I I would like to to think about that or look at that. So kind of kind of my
mindset and and the plan I I see in my mind. I would still like to look for an RFP for grant writing and engineering. And I would like us to do that and be decided where someone can be selected and they can look into these grants and
possibilities before we go into LBR in January when you start making those requests. So if they say, "Hey, we feel we can get A, G, and Z." We're not going to look at that in LBR, right? And then in the LBR, we say, "Okay, we know we we want to ask for some buses, but at the
same time, we have Ricky and Kevin's wish list and safety list and repair list. I would really like to focus on physical facilities, AD, like ADA compliance and safety. And if we can show, hey, we don't get these dollars to
be in compliance with these things. It seems like a no-brainer on the LBR side that the legislaturator is not going to turn down something where we say we got a safety hazard and we have no dollars coming in to be able to to satisfy that safety hazard. That just seems like a no-brainer. They're they're not they are
not going to strike that down. And I've included that and in the softball and the field that we didn't have ADA compliant bathrooms. So that was that's been a big selling point and I'm sure that was a big selling point in the budget narrative. I I would really like
again RFP what grants do we have look at the wish list we have total dollars to make improvements and then look at the buses at the same time to see what we have and all this being in place right so January time we know are we going to finance a bus right or are we going to
are we going to go LBR and here's the deal what we might decide is if we can look at the budget and Katie say I believe we have x number of dollars that we could put towards a budget bus and then we decide, okay, well, do we do we want to buy one bus, two bus, three
buses? Do we want to finance it for two years, three years, five years? What do we want to do, right, to make that work? That way, we can say, okay, we feel strategically it's going to be a better decision to try to get $800,000 in ADA compliance and finance the bus, right?
that might be $300,000 for two rather than ask for two buses and not get the $800,000 that we think we could get for legislature to fix the majority of things on the safety and and facility wish list. That that's what I would like to see personally. Um but no, I would
absolutely love to see what Jody said. I would love to see this is where we're at on the budgets. This is what we're looking at doing. I don't mind. My understanding as a as a a board member, I'm one of five that makes a budget, right? That make that assigns the
dollars, makes the budget request as recommended by finance to the superintendent to the board, right? I don't mind being on the hot seat. Be like, "No, I don't want to do this. I'd rather do that. I think this is going to be the better decision. I'm I'm 100% happy to do that." So, I'm happy to be on that hot seat. So, sorry to throw
y'all under the bus if if not, but I I don't mind. I mean, I feel like that's my responsibility and I want to live up to that responsibility. Um, I I would also when we start looking into budgets and total dollars that are available, I
know it sounds like if this stays those TISA dollars, we're getting 40 40,000. I would like to go ahead and be thinking in the budget now, okay, how much tentatively do we feel we would be comfortable giving raises to? I know that's collective bargain and everything
else. We can't talk about the details, but I don't see how we can even begin to think about a raise for the teachers if it we haven't even thought about putting it in the budget. Maybe we do that. I haven't seen it, but it would seem reasonable if we say, "Okay, we feel we've got an extra 40, 50, 60, $80,000
after we look at the non-instructional raises. I think that'll be on our meeting come, I guess, next month. what how many dollars do we have to put into those raises for teachers right now right out of the gate and then maybe things change maybe they don't we'll fine-tune it and collect a bargain when
it's like hey we just ain't got the money or hey we got a little bit more I I would like to kind of know in the back of my mind that when we're getting to that point that we already have $50,000 more dollars to put with the 40 the state's going to give us to look at raises and and we're not kind of and and
maybe we did that I just I wasn't in it you Maybe it was done last year. I just wasn't in it. But I I'd rather know now what I'm preparing for when we hit October, November, December, January, February, you know, and all those those time frames. So, um that that's just my
mind right now and some of the things I'd really like to see, but strategically, engineering, grant writing, facilities, bus, I I would like all this to to start being incorporated when we're really looking at budget time. And I would hope
we could go out for an RFP if we decide to do so to kind of help facilitate that movement forward before budgets completely finalized when we go through all the trim processes and VAB processes and finalized numbers. Well, as long as we actually do take advorum dollars from
property taxes if that's not change, but that that's that's what I would like to see. So, y'all please continue to be patient with me and teach me, train me. Um, I'm open to doing whatever is best for the kids because that's going to end up being best for the district and the
teachers and everybody else. So, anyway, that's that's my thought. Awesome. Any other questions? Thank y'all for staying a little later. Sorry. Yes. Isn't that awesome? What? How much? I mean,
oh boy. So, I got a question. That's going to be cheaper in the long run. I know. Yeah. I got It's going to be up front. Wait. Here we go. There's the budget. Include the budget. There goes that first bus. Yep. I'm pretty sure. Bus,
Kevin. No bus. There you go. Go to lights. I know it's an ever changing. I'm pretty sure the courthouse just got not long ago grants to convert all their lights to LEDs. I mean, that that stuff's out there. Yeah. Well, you make a repair now and
then long term. I mean, you're probably looking at updating a massive amount. Can we apparently have any left over? I bet they took all that down. That's right. They changed them and they probably trashed them when they took
them down. That' be my guess. Nowhere in the nation. Listen, eBay contact with I hadn't been able to find found 22 RTC and 22 others. Now high school is good everywhere but
RTC polar the whole thing is other than the gym. I converted some of them gems converted the other two whole the whole well again for LED have to be changed got to figure it out
somehow. Yeah, that's got to be I mean that's facility got to have it. The problem we can go in there and take the ballast out of this light right here. Fix it. Put LED in. This is still T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T8.
Bra come in here and go to change it. Fix a L T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T8 bulb in that LED place because there don't look any difference. It blows up in his face. That's the reason you can't do one at a time. You got to do a mile or nothing. I ain't good. I already run into that problem. We
already tried it. So, it won't work. Blowing up in the face thing is what you're telling me. Blow up in your face because Can you get Can you get a I mean have a balance anymore. Yeah. I know I know y'all handle this D kind of stuff. I I I'm just I'd like to see what we're
talking about. Like when you say ROC's got to be done. How much is that? Well, I I asked the drone this morning him and he about 12 to 15 lights per classroom at total. Minimum of you know, you got nine
classrooms, nine grades down there. So there's a minimum two there two teachers per class at total eight graders. Well, we can't have insufficient lighting for these kids. I'm sorry. We'll have eight. You know, you figure you talking 250 lights at total.
That's just in the classroom, not counting the office and hallways and all that, bathrooms and all that. Uhhuh. All right, Mr. Chair.
Motion to journ. Motion. Motion J. Second. Second. I got mine that time. layout. Part: 2
2025 8 a.m. come to order. We're going to open with a prayer of Mr. Petty and a pledge by Mr. Williams. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, thank you for this day. Thank you, God, that it's the day that you've made and we'll rejoice and be glad in it. We pray right now, God, that you'd bless our time,
Father, as we wrap up a fiscal year and get ready to start a new one. Father, we pray for all the planning and all the diligent work that's gone on up here in our schools. Father, pray that you'd help all of our leaders. And uh Lord, we just pray God that you'd help everything to come together. And and Lord, we know
it always does. But Father, we just pray for your guidance and leadership, Father, in our lives to get it done in a way that's pleasing to you and our constituents, our families, and our students. Father, we pray you'd bless our time to get to today, Father, and pray that it'd be fruitful. Uh we love you and thank you for everything you've
done for us. And thank you God for your hand of protection upon us daily. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. All right, moving right on to item number two, public comments. We didn't have any. Moving to item number three, addition correction item A. Need a
motion to approve adding emergency item 7A. Have a motion. Motion. Motion. Mr. Moore. Second. Second. Miss Jody. Any discussion? Yeah, actually I do have a question. So, I noticed that there were three different psychology or behavioral contracts that were on the agenda. What
are the difference between the three of them? So, the the main one, the emergency item is for the the lady who does our testing. Okay. The other ones are some uh you talking about the panhandle therapy and
panicare? No. No. There was um it looked like there were two psychologist contracts and then another third contract for behavioral services that might be pertaining to something like that. That's a that is a I had somebody else ask me about that. Those we we do
um the positive behavioral supports. Um we've been doing that for a while now. That is a grant-driven thing, but that's not a uh that's where they send us uh behavioral uh texts that come in to the schools that work within a kid's
behavioral plan and or IEP. Um but it's not grant grant covered. Is that is that what that is? Yeah. Sometime Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes that's covered within some of their uh uh their funding, their student funding, but most
of it I believe is grant driven. So then the two different psychologists that we have, what they're I'm assuming they're performing different things within psychology, I'm not an expert on this. What like what are in other words, why why do we need two different ones instead of just having a single
psychologist to perform certain certain things? That's a good Laura question. I know this I believe this lady does all of our um look here. Make sure I think this lady does what Dr. Bamman
used to do. Okay. Um does our psychological test testing. Mhm. Um and the other one you're referring to, I'm not not sure who you're referring to. Yeah. So, hold on. I'd have to find on the uh So, to the best of my knowledge, it's because they don't have enough time
to do all Okay, I got you. So they're performing the same types of services, but they you need two of them because they can't put in the hours to complete all the services that they're performing the same. Even with Dr. Bayon, we would still send Okay. All right. Because
these people they they do multiple districts. So yeah. So they have commitments elsewhere and we need multiple of them to Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. Just for us. Okay. When it comes to those those type of psychological services, is that is that something that the district pays out of
like a general fund or is it grant dollars? How does That's a Laura question. Those are Laura qu I mean we can answer the best we can but those are those are pretty well Laura. Okay. Okay.
Got we get some mental health allocation money. Yeah. Um part of that pays something pays Jennifer. Yeah. And so we use that if it's if it qualifies for that and can be used for that. And then some come some will come out of general fund. I understand if if what's what's
love to have it in house but it yeah it'd be you know work best case scenario you'd have a a a school psychologist who does they just work for you. You pay them a flat fee and but I'm assuming that's a little bit bigger salary when we're paying them $150 and $200 six
digit. Yeah. Yeah. And these people can make more money, you know, doing what they're doing now. Understood. Okay. Thank you'all. All in favor say I. I. Any oppos? Motion carries. Next item B. Motion approve additions to corrections to consent item 5B. Have a motion.
Motion. Motion. Jody. Second. Second. Singleary. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Next item four. Need a motion to approve the agenda for June the 30th, 2025. Have a motion. Motion fever. Second. Second.
Single. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Next item five, consent items. Item eight. Need a motion to approve budget amendments. Have a motion. Motion. Motion. Mr. Moore. Second. Second. Second. M. Singleary. Any discussion?
All in favor say I. Mr. Chair. Um, is the budget amendments on the agenda? I just attached them. Oh, okay. Okay.
All right. Never mind. Huh? I I don't see them. Oh, okay. Okay. I don't think it didn't show like I didn't I didn't notice it didn't show as an attachment like if you click you're seeing it. She put them
Yeah. Katie sent them about seven this morning. Okay. Let me refresh real quick. Three pages of them. Okay. Sorry about that, guys. I just don't No, no, that's fine. I'm not I don't I don't mean to take away from
No, there it is. I see it. See it? Do you have Do you have any thoughts, comments, anything like a high level view to share on all of this with us on all the budget amendments? Do you have like a high level view of your take on what like what happened on the
financial level to require all the amendments? The reduction in our FFP funding off the third c was 527,000 roughly. So we had to come in and reduce the budget by that. Um again your
budgets based off the prior year. We lost a lot of students. So there and then um some of the places like we lost the force or we didn't lose it but we just didn't get the 350,000 we had allocated or thought we would get in
revenue for I went in and adjusted that um took 300,000 away uh we got like 53,000 I had 50 left 50 as our you know budget but we got 53 other places in there we might have had
budgeted for some miscellaneous state revenue. Again, we don't I don't know what that comprised of because that could vary every year. Um, so I just went in and kind of adjusted some of that that I knew we weren't going to get at this point to just kind of get the revenue more in line. And then I went on
the expenditure side and things by the FBFP half million there just to align the budget for the final. So was it the movement of dollars that weren't spent in certain items that allowed you to move dollars further? So, we're not taking from reserves or
anything like that. We're basically saying unspent dollars that were budgeted in A were approved to B because B had more dollars spent in it. Budget uh to get cover the negatives places that went negative, but we had it
here and we just moved it around. I got adding any dollars to it. It's just aligning it. Okay. And and I just talked to to Katie just a few minutes ago, Mr. Kever and basically what what I told her is when we do a budget amendment these
are these are very touchy to me when we start moving money back and forth um maybe a little bit of bullets you know even though we talk about it even though we you know we go over it we go over it it it would be good and you did include some of that on the the other side of
this um in the other document but just when you send us a budget amendment like that just make sure It's it's a few bullets, you know, hey, did we did this, we did this, you know, moving this to this. Um, and it will help, you know, especially when we don't really we
didn't really have a whole lot of time to review it. Don't have a lot of time to get it done. Right. Right. So, just that'll help us, you know, pre us and you are always welcome to give us a call, you know, ahead of time or whatever and say, "Hey, it's coming and this is what's going
on." You know, policy at this point, right? Um because we have said this all along to you guys what we what our budget kept being reduced to but this is paper righting expenses yeah well thank you that's this is a lot
of work and I understand it so trust me thank you so much so then on the year end where how are we looking I mean is this going to be the final that comes through as far as no coming in still so I don't this is just the best I can give you at this
a lot. Now, I expect a whole lot more, but a couple couple things could happen. You got to pay you got to pay June's bills in July. So, you still have expenditures through today. Um the second thing is the forestry money. Um and I got this in our for our budget
meeting, but I'll go ahead and share this now. Um if you've been keeping up in the news, we are in the big beautiful bill. Uh so is so much other funding. um they're trying to get that done by July the 4th, which is, you know, the end of the week. So, if that gets in there,
then that would be that would be revenue that would be coming in. I don't know when we would get it, per se, but that would be some that would actually come in in the next fiscal year. Obviously, you know, after July 1. Um that would actually be revenue coming in that you
didn't presently have in this one. It wouldn't have anything to do with last year or this year. Correct. All in favor say hi. I actually have another question. So on on the revenue side 4.98.
So right now so I don't see an actual I'm not looking at I'm not seeing an actual on the budget. I'm just seeing a budgeted figure. But I'm assuming these budgeted items are being moved because we have actuals that were beyond what had been budgeted and therefore we had
to move those dollars because the actual revenues, the actual expenses came in separate from what they were. So on this side of the budgeted revenues that were received, am I looking at estimated revenues fund balance? We're looking at
4 or 14.982 million on the revenue side. But then on the expense side, we're looking at 14.129. So it looks like we have $700,000 more dollars on the revenue side than expenses for the total that were adjusted. So on the expense side,
do we like on the on the actuals on the actuals received, actual revenue received, actual expenses? Is there a way that um when you get some numbers crunch and put it together, would you be able to send that out where
I can see where the actuals fail? I Okay. I didn't I guess I didn't see it about 7:45, but it's too Oh, okay. So, that was that in an email. I guess that Oh, okay. All right. expenditures, you
know, what I had through Friday versus there's a revenue what I had through Friday. You know, that's as close as I can get for y'all at this point. Okay. All right. I'll take a look at it. Yeah, that's perfect. Thank you. In all honesty, most people don't even do that. Like this that's pushing to get that to
be honest because other districts are is in July before we can even my staff work really hard to be able to provide this uh to get their stuff done so I can provide that to y'all. But I wanted to be able to Yeah. You know, give you some some numbers. Yeah. No, I appreciate
that. Thank you. All right. I don't have any more questions. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'll take a look at that. I appreciate it, Katie. More discussion. All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. Next item B. The motion to approve personnel uh consent items. Have a
motion. Good. Second. Second. Second, Mr. Singleary. Any discussion? Hey. Um Kyle, I do. Mr. chair. Excuse me, Kyle. Thank you for that response. Um, do you foresee us I
mean, unfortunately, you know, and well, let me say this the right way. I'm happy for Franklin County um getting their their their meals, you know, increased and, you know, but do you foresee us losing any more to Franklin County? Are we are we are they are they shopping us
or what's going on? So, I mean to be very transparent, yeah, they'd love to they'd love to clean us out, but when you do the again, do the math and and I've sat down with a few staff members who have considered, you know, going down there for an extra $4,000 or
$5,000. Right. You do the math on the on gas and all that, it it it's not an increase at all. Right. However, um again, you and I have talked about this. I I think that we need to be in a stance. Um and I you know and I'm I
can't speak for other board members, but you know, when I had the shark circling me, um I was ready. I I had a little bit tucked to the side to say, "Hey, I can counter if I need to." So, I think that we need to keep that in mind. I just I
just I just threatened Steve Laneir and I and I did the same thing with DFS. I I promise you I called him I don't anticipate any of it. Yeah, it's not just Franklin, it's others, too. I I think that you know again we need to be
of the mindset and think out of the box that you know there are I understand special raises this and that and the other but there are times that you don't want to lose a lot of in const you know institutional knowledge and and that
alarms me a little bit because it does happen we do have we it's happening all over and so in all the districts I mean I was looking at I think Walton the other day posted something on Facebook about how many teachers they needed and this that and the other Bay County. Um
but we we just need to be be able to think out the box a little bit and be ready to say, "Hey, wait a minute. Hold up." Be honest. Yes. Okay. I agree with you there. Florida Virtual is is must be paying some kind
of money. Um it's a 12-month job. So their salary is on par with what ours is for 12 months, but then they have the freedom to work from home. Yeah. And offer that you have to be in the classroom. So and you know
people who have left us for that that's really that's the draw teachers that we can't compete with. Yeah. I I understand that. Okay. That is my two cents. Sorry. Mr. Chair, go ahead. I'm sorry. Favor say I. I. Motion
carries. Item C need a motion app to approve salary schedule for the 2526 fiscal year. I have a motion. Motion. Single terry. Second. Second. Second. More. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I have a I have a
question. I looked at So, I'm assuming do we have to approve the salary schedule every single year? Right. So, no, I didn't notice there were any changes or anything like that in it. This is just each year will you approve the schedule? Okay. Yeah. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion
carries. Next item six, action item, item A. Need a motion to approve recommendation of fuel and gas bid award to Eli Roberts and Sun for the 2526 fiscal year. I have a motion. Motion more. Second. You have
a single second. second. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carried. Mr. Chair, if you if you could just a second. So, single bid response. Um and and did we go up any Kevin this
year? Did it increase? This is the same vendor we've been using per call. She you asked me that and I've not had a chance to look at it. Okay. And the reason I'm asking is because when you get a single bid response per statute, you can go and negotiate um
less than two, you can go and negotiate or you can decide to rebid. Um so I I just need to know, you know, did we go up? Okay. Is there a reason why we're settling with the single bid response?
Is it is it due to time? Is it due to Yeah, I know. So now last was it last year before last we had didn't we have Bennett? Okay. So we we have had others. Okay. We were going to change that to like a fiveyear and did we
renewal? Okay. We did do a renewal. Did a threeyear. I added that in there per y'all's threeyear and with an extension of possibly three more. We'll get there. Okay, just just a heads up on that guys. You know 287057 I think
it's Pin 6 allows us to you know negotiate with a single bid response. So if we do get one in the future this is something we need to keep in our hat. We can go and say hey we could rebid this. Do you want to negotiate a little bit? That is an open door for us. So um I'm
good. Thank you Mr. Chair. All in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Moving on. Item B. Need a motion to approve ring power air compressor generator service agreement. Have a motion. Motion. Jody. Second. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say
I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Next item C. Need a motion approved letter between Liberty County District School Board and Alice Pan Pada CPA PA for consult service to be performed for the fiscal year ending June the 30th, 2025. I have
a motion. Motion with Kever. Second. Second. Second, Miss Singleary. Any discussion? Yes, Mr. Chair Katie. Um, on the Gazsby. So, she does the Gazsby for us. Um, do and I assume you work hand inand with
her on the Gazsby. Is is it possible and I know when when we did the GA I did that was respon that was under my purview too and in FWC. So, um, is it possible that is she giving us any
direction to possibly we may still have to have a CPA firm look at it? D, but do other districts actually do their Gazsbies in in-house? All districts outsource it? He does. Walton, Franklin,
US or there's some others in the panhandle district. Okay. None of us know Gatsby. That's her. There's so much changes and all that. I mean, um, it's a very it's very complicated. And she does other parts
of, um, uh, I think it's the MDAs and some other stuff she does for that tie in and go with my AFR and all the reporting that I have to do for Okay. I was just wondering because I, you know, we did it in we had I actually hired a person to do Gatsby. So we had
an accounting firm that you know kind of looked at us but fact we've been using her since Stephanie Hoffind was here since 20045. Okay. She has always done okay other district and four. Thank you. You have now she helps with other
accounting functions outside of just year end. Do do you have enough time with her to be able to get like for for the needs that finance has? I mean is there you got enough time with her? She okay goes above and beyond for us. Okay. All right. Yes. Help me out.
All I Any opposed? Motion carries. Next item B. Motion app to approve the 2526 school resource deputy agreement between the school board of Liberty County and the Liberty County Sheriff's Office. Have a motion. Motion. Singleary. Second. Second. Second. Mr. Kever. Any
discussion? Yeah, I have I had a thought. So, uh, superintendent, we need to go to Dusty and we need to say, "Hey, Dusty, if we pay for four, we should get one more half price and then buy one get one and then see what he and then see what he says." Huh. Just buy one get
one. I think we buy one get BOGO. Yeah, that's right. I will I would like the chair to appoint a committee to go speak to M to the sheriff, please. U So, you know, I'm not getting run out of his office. Let me let me share this and I I
want to thank the board over the last gosh 20 plus years. It's amazing and Ricky can tell you we've always had SRO's for a long time, but there are a lot of districts who are just now for the first year getting an SRO.
Believe it or not, I'm just telling you. Um you have Gadston County that uh they don't have believe it or not their high school They use a guardian a guardian other places. Yeah. That's all
very much. Talking to a guy. Oh jeez. does a very good job. You don't have to right but he gives us a lot and previous sheriff. Yes. Totally different
size, lack district. And after the Parkland shooting, you know, what one of the the the the money that came in was to try to get a gun at Ever School. Uh somebody that's armed at Ever School and because many schools were not. So that's the that's the
thing. So we've been blessed not only to have SRO's for years, Jason, you said that goes back previous administrations in the sheriff's office, but also the board that said this is a commit, this is what we want and and the collaboration, but it's really good. is
really well now with the addition of the guardians. U uh one of the board members asked over the weekend about prek and up here. So Ricky and I serve as guardians here at the district office for our students here. So but you also have to understand
under that right should be it should be should be should be it should but they are not included in K12. They it's a whole whole separate thing. It's on early early learning. Yes. By policy and by state law.
Is that something? Is that something they could budget in? PreK cuz they get money. I mean, they get Well, they could. They They don't have to because we're we're Yeah. I'm just asking. I mean that's something obviously they're covered by the Guardians and SR
would be the only place this is what I'm Yeah for this I'm just wondering well anyway that that was a joke I appreciate you sharing all that and I have talked to Dusty and and I appreciate him greatly for what he's done and and the past sheriffs my kids
have been in the in the district a long time and ain't just about my young this is about all of them. So I think it's a great thing and we're very blessed to have that. So I I have no qualms with it. But I'm I'm absolutely for that. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed?
Motion carries. Next item eight. Need a motion app to approve enter county contract contractual agreement between the school board of Leon County and the school board of Liberty County for the transfer of exceptional students. Have a motion. Motion. Jody. Have a second. Second. Second. Mr. Kever. Any
discussion? All in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Move an item. Need a motion to uh to approve positive behavior support agreement for the 2526 school year. Have a motion. Motion Kever. I have a second.
Second. Second, Miss Jody. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Moving on item G. Need a motion to approve 202526 corporate agreement for the occupational therapy service between the Liberty County School Board and from the Therapy
and Rehab PLLC DBA. Tyler uh Tessa Bor I have a motion motion motion Mr. Moore second second Mr. receiver. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Moving on. Item H. Need a motion to approve 2526
cooperative agreement for speech language pathology services between the Liberty County School Board and Roberts Therapy Solutions. I have a motion. Motion. Second. Second. Second. Singleary. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Item
I need a motion to approve the 202526 corporate agreement for the physical therapy service between Liberty County School Board and Mala S. Walkers physical therapy LLC. Have a motion. Motion second. Second. Second, Miss Jody. Any discussion? All in favor say
I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Next item J. Need a motion to approve Florida Department of Education project award notification idea part B K12 entitlement for program for the 7th 1st 24 through the 6 to 30 to 25. I have a motion
motion motion. Second second. Second Mr. Morris. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Move right on item K. Need a motion to approve travel expenditures for superintendent administrative staff to attend the 26 Florida teacher of the
year Gayler to be held on July the 17th in Orlando, Florida. Have a motion. Motion keeper. Second, Miss Singleary. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Let me ask Mr. Petty something please. Is it too late to register for that? I
have not done it. No sir. No. I think I sent you the link on an email. You did. You did. I couldn't. There was a deadline on it and I can't remember what it was but okay all in favor say I. Any opposed? Mr. Chair, can I just say one thing? So So all this the staff that's
going down I'm sorry. There was a deadline available through we got to hook up. So, so in because we're going here, we will not be going to the leadership conference at PAC. You know, we usually go there and it's two or three nights in
Dest and it's a lot more money. So, we will not be we'll be going here in lie of that and it's just for one night for us. We'll leave that Thursday um I guess morning the gallas that night. We'll stay that night and come back on Friday. I do have a question Mr. Chair um for
Kyle. Who's delegated in your and Jeff's absence during this period? Um, that's a great question. It's usually Laura or Mandy. Uh, Kevin, just
let us know, please. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Call Kevin. Yeah. In Illinois. Yeah. Send all parent issues to Kevin. That's right. Kevin.Wills
Williams all of them. He'll be gone too. Any more discussion? I hear next item. Need a motion app to approve 2526 assessment calendar. I have a motion. Motion is more second.
Uh Mr. Singleary, any discussion? Yeah. Brief brief question. Is there a I know there's the state required timeline. What discretion do we how much discretion do we have in the county for these assessments? So we have any
discretion within the window state sets. Um so I meet with several around the guys. Thank you. Yeah, that that was that was kind of where I was going with it. That's
approved in the April meeting. And then so there's there's like a committee for this as well, just like the Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. holidays and where people are going to be and Okay. All right. That Thank you. I appreciate that. More discussion. All
favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Next item M. Need a motion to approve 2025 through 26 bus routes and toler. Second. Thank you, Mr. Moore. Any discussion? Yeah, I do have a question.
So, I'm looking at the bus lineups. So, it looks like there's two rows of buses, right, that pull beside each other. And I'm sure we have all kind of safety protocol when that happens. What would it take to have a single row of buses be able to pull in? I'm assuming
sidewalks, coverings, things like that. Have we ever assessed something like that to have a single row of buses line up where kids don't have to walk in between? Is this what this is showing? Kids have to walk in between buses to be able to get the row.
What have we ever done an assessment of what it would take for a single row of them? I mean, I realize these buses are Huh. It's a sidewalk is what it would take, right? The budget wasn't large enough. Y'all high school needs to be done.
I didn't I haven't noticed that being on like any type of budgetary item and and obviously you know it' be board and admin technical is not supposed to be parking and bus load parking
or you'd have to like fence it off and be like how you park on this side and this is where the buses go or something like that. It's a best practice underwing teacher far. It's just the best. You have parents sneaking to go down there several times and sit.
Yeah. We run them off. So when Jeff when Jeff was serving down there, we were switching out some in the afternoons because he would drive and and we'd, you know, we had we'd have a few and we'd run them off, you know, they try to skip the line, you know, and come in the back
way, but we we tell them to leave. So I I realize there's budgetary restrictions on everything. Uh, and this is one of five, but I I would be interested to see what the cost would be to extend sidewalks or whatever that needed to happen to be able to have it
where there was a single row of buses that could all pull in at one time and and kids not have to pass in between buses. I I would be I I don't know if in toller at to 100 both or 100 each.
And that's coverings as well. Yeah. Well, I mean, you got four buses that are how many feet long? I mean, that's a lot of linear feet of sidewalk. I get it. I covered Well, I mean, here's the deal. It ain't like they're covered once you
get out in between the first bus. So, it seems like you just do a sidewalk. H, they lined up undercover and what they do is they run out there. They're all in their line and they go straight to their bus from their line.
Last year it rained the first week. Not just mass chaos running between the buses. I'm I'm sure them and usually that has an umbrella. So So yeah, I want to I want to brag on on this this thing here. It it may not be the optimum thing, but it is a well greased machine.
fantastic. So, you got you got you got the uh the uh bus monitor who help assist. You got plenty of adults out there on the sidewalks. Um you know, I I worked this a bunch for about I don't know, two
months when Jeff was serving down there. And uh you know, we we are constantly walking back and forth. Uh and you know, you know, I'm always looking make sure that parent's not trying to come in there. It it is a well-groozed machine, but now on those rainy days, you you
need to be that close, you know. Quick question. Um, Mr. Kever, has somebody brought this to your attention? No. Are you just This is just me flying an idea. This is me flying an idea for safety. I mean, I I you probably noticed I bring up a lot of different safety topics and
this is one of them. I mean, when you have six, seven, eight year olds, whatever, they're, you know, kids are kids. And and I have no Here's the thing. I would 100% vote no on this if I had a concern that the teachers and staff and admin over there weren't doing
their job. I don't believe that at all. So, my my thought is if there are certain things that can be addressed anywhere in the district to make it safer for the kids, then then why not look at that or have it on a long-term plan? And if there's funding or grants or something out there that could be
specifically for that, maybe we can seek it. And maybe this could be on the long-term plan everywhere where you have a single row of buses that are in a line and kids don't have to walk between them. Again, I realize there's dollar limitations. And again, I I'm not questioning at all that we are a
welloiled machine as it pertains to the kids lined up and adults being out there. Um, that's just that's just my thought. I mean, in other words, if it were the best case scenario and we had all the dollars in the world, I would imagine we'd have a single line and we'd have extra long coverings and big
sidewalks and everything else out there if money weren't an option, right? Just a just a thought if there was something out there, grant out there or something of that nature that we could seek, maybe that would be maybe that would be a helpful thing. So, again, I'm I'm for this. Uh, I'm I'm ready to make a motion
on it, but I would like to see, you know, that kind of put on a list of things that might could be addressed that's longterm long-term goal. Personally, I can get a Everybody. Yeah. Any more discussion? Motion. All in
favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Item N. Need a motion to approve agreement contracting the services between Liberty County School Board and Dr. Paige Blankenship LLC DBA Parker House of Psychology. I have a motion. Motion
second. Second. Single Terry. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carried. Next item O. Need a motion to approve 2526 memorandum of understanding between Liberty County School Board and Panhandle.
Have a motion. Motion. Motion. Mr. Secretary. Second. Second. Jody. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Next item P. Need a motion to approve 2526 memorandum of understanding between Pancare Florida
Incorporated and the school board of Liberty County. I have a motion. Motion. Motion. Mr. Moore. Second. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Motion carry. Moving on to item seven. Emergency item.
Item A. Need a motion to approve 2025 2026. Icology contract between Liberty County School District and Julia Born Horts. I hope I say that close. Anyway, PhD, DBA, uh, Cypress
Psychological Service. Motion motion. Motion more. Second. Second. Keep singing. Sorry about that. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Next. Board member
concerns. Mr. Kever. Well, we all happy to know that I don't have any comments. I don't know. Happy highlight that. This is the first. No, love y'all. Appreciate y'all. I hope the teachers are having a great summer and everybody that's still hammering on at
it or maybe getting a little more time with their families. Thank y'all. Um Kyle Football Fieldhouse. Yes, ma'am. How we How we looking? Got power. We got lights. Awesome. They are rolling. They are rolling. My minute.
Um Go ahead, Kevin. I'm sorry. Okay. Technologywise, I mean, I know there's going to be, you know, pretty good in there. Are we good rolling? Everything's TV. Okay, good deal.
locker. So, just makes it easier. You're supposed to be getting a quote on that. So, about $1,000. Good. I just I know you know we're going to have that classroom in there and making sure Wi-Fi and all that other you know and your and like you said your
wires and you um now will we have like you said TVs are we are we doing anything special in there we doing any other equipment what we doing the CNA program wasn't that we have actually a classroom area in that's all all pre-wired and then we've got all the
equipment for the C you know that we need and it'll be transferred out there okay I'm just trying think ahead. I know. And I am like crazy. This is crazy. I'm so excited. Um I do do want to blow this up, guys. We need to We
need to showcase this. This is huge. in the And we got ice machines and we got all the stuff. Awesome. Okay. Now, have Yeah, that's awesome. Have we
Have we got the side? Have we got a sidewalk there yet? Or are we doing a side? It's right up against the track. Okay. From the Yeah. to walk over. Okay. Okay. And around to the bathrooms. Okay. Yeah. That's have accessible. We need
we're going from the road to the top of him. So when they Yeah, we don't want And that may have to be done once we get the track done. But what can I say? They come out the stands, they can roll right on the track
to come around. And we're going to need to pour an apron, you know, path from the track to the the thing, too. And plenty of lighting. I mean, as far as, you know, when I hadn't seen it at night, you know, lit up. Huh. Lighting all the way around. Lighting all the way around.
People walking. Yeah. Come by there. Yeah. I need to go out there and look at that cuz Good. Good, good, good, good. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, they're they're going to be great. Have was there a discussion? Are they going to
move the entry? Is all the entry going to move? Like, is it going to be moved away? Supposed to be. Has there been a final final decision? There'll be two entries. One will be through the high school and then one will be through the ticket gate that goes in through baseball softball and then we'll shut down the front where
there won't be a ticket entry on the front. How was that been? Is it up in there? I think you're always probably going to need to have handicap on the north side of the field, you know, because it's just closer to the stands that way and they can drive in and get, you know, pretty quick access there. But
so we'll keep that handicap. I think that needs to stay put handicap signs everywhere and that person by the field house. Yeah. Yeah. When you leave
this strategic Yeah. Hey, I like it. I have a question. Um, was there a mention of a gold bulldog one time? H a gold bulldog. a gold bulldog statue my bulldog Donn red said he was going to
pay for it when it finished to put out in front of it on a brick paper around let's reach out to him um it's been it's been like a statue I guess a gold bulldog I can still bronze bulldog bronze bulldog where they you know how you touch it when you go out all the
y'all remember that you want me to Okay you good Kyle I'll ask you all right actually had several people ask me about that when we're putting up the bulldog Just the FYI. Donnie Red Donny Red has said that for many years when they were doing that he he was good for that. He'd already got a
price and everything on this just drug out for a long time. Yeah. But he did I'll ask you. Let's check on that gold bulldog. Um softball. I'm going to stop over this softball. It looks like we're about $88,000.
So are we bleachers getting them? should be getting a price today or tomorrow from Blackburns. Okay. Okay, good.
Took it. Can you can you send that to us whenever we look at it or I mean it the price? Yeah. Is this a sole source at this point? This method of procurement soul source or can't get anybody else. I mean I mean we Kevin's asked 4,000 people.
Yeah. I mean we we've we've sold it. There's nobody else. But they can't the one original one that was high from um Jackson Cook. Jackson Cook.
People that we kind of go. Okay. We have that. Okay. How are we again going back to procurement with with the one quote? How much was it? Does this put us into a bidding? Because we thought we'd do it under cold pepper.
Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. Sorry. Sorry. Thank you. Yay. Um, all right. Good. So, yeah. I'm Can Can we How How quickly That's another thing. How quickly can they start when they when you get it? Probably pretty quick, but that' be awesome. Got to be right.
Yay. Price come right. Yeah, that's they'll probably start pretty quick. Okay. All right. Like they wanted our business. Yay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All I got just want to thank everybody for the job to do and
everybody have a happy and safe 4th of July. All I got. Single. I want to share something that some of y'all are pro may be aware of it, maybe not. I was supposed to do it at the last meeting and I forgot about it. So, uh,
it's just a recogn just a little token of appreciation for somebody in the county. I stopped by the softball field right before the girls went to state and Thornon Davis insisted that I get on the little gator
with him and ride around and look at his robot that he had for painting and all that. And then he said, "You know where this gator came?" Isn't it a gator call? Little the John Deere little bug John Deere gator gator. He said, "You know where this came from?" I said, "No." He
said, "Well, I'm going to try to not get emotional, but he said that Jean Free used to come over and watch those girls practice every day on Gator." And after he passed away, uh, they
needed something. Guess the one they had broke down and we didn't have the money to buy one. So, Greg and Miss Patricia told him to use it just like it's his just during the off keep it covered.
When season's over, bring it to the house, put it in the shed, next year, come back and get it again. I just wanted to recognize them for that. Awesome. Tell them thank you when y'all see them. There's something to that, Jason. And they didn't do it for recognition, but
lot between him and uh the softball field. And back before he passed, he asked me could he keep them two trees cut down so he can sit on to see and not have to pay to go. So we kept it cut down for him, buddy. You know?
Yep. I miss him. Yep. That all. That's all I got. M. I'm good. Just everybody have a safe July 4th weekend and uh try not to blow nothing up. Jason, I'm over that and I won't be water skiing either. Yeah. And any other closing comments? We
got go to item 10. Motion to adjurnn. Motion. Mr. Moore second. M just a little bit slowly drawing adjourn. Y'all want to take a little break before we