Valerie, please read the statement of public notice. >> Please take notice that the notice of this meeting was provided in accordance with NJSA 104-10 as follows. The notice of the meeting posted on the bulletin board at
the municipal building located at 225 Main Street Little on January 8, 2026. Copy the notice was sent via email to the North Jersey news on same date. Additionally, a copy of the notice was filed in the office of the township.
Please note that this meeting therefore we have thoughts. >> Thank you. Please pull the board. Vice Chair Barry >> here. >> Mr. K >> here.
>> Mr. Luke >> here. >> Mr. >> Here, >> Mr. Sver >> here. >> Councilman Mr. Dolan >> here. >> Mr. Rena here. >> Mr. Jordan, Mr.
>> Here, Mr. Mr. Barrett, Mr. Bill pass >> here. Uh, thank you. May I have a motion for the approval of the minutes of the January 8th, 20126 for both the
reorganization meeting and the regular meeting? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Please pull the board. >> Vice Chairman Barry. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kar. >> Yes. >> Mr. Liano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Po.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Kos. Yes, >> Mr. Dolan. >> Yes, >> Mr. >> Yes, >> Jordan. >> Chamber votes yes. The minutes are approved. Um,
we have no resolutions to memorialize. Mr. Barry is going to be 15 minutes late. Now, there we go. >> There he is. >> There's no rush. Take your time. >> You're up. Well, we will give you time
to put your papers on. It's >> very prompt this evening. >> Very prompt. Ready to go. >> Ready to go. >> Okay. >> Uh we have first application up is the public hearing to renew and consider the
adoption of an amended housing element and fair share plan element of the township's master plan. Mr. Sure. >> You swear from the testimony where you're supposed to be the truth, the whole truth. >> I do.
>> Just put on the >> Sure. >> Yeah. John Barry, uh, licensed planner, the township planner, and I prepared the amended housing element and fair share plan that's been on file and was noticed for this evening's hearing.
So, um, basically the the the purpose of this, we had the hearing for the housing plan back in June of last year, uh, at which point we adopted a plan that was then, uh, uploaded to the program, this, uh, statewide affordable housing dispute
resolution program. During the course of the last seven or so months, I guess there's been um there was a a challenge filed to the plan by the Fair Share Housing Center, the statewide ad advocacy organization that essentially
probably intervened in in their way in just about every one of these cases statewide. And their challenge to the Little Falls plan was very mild. I'll put it that way. Um they basically requested a little bit of cleanup. They
identified a project from the township's prior round, so from years past that hasn't come to fruition and asked us to find something to take its place. So that's what we did. We we took a look at what's been done. And over the last few years, the the township's had several
developments that have come online that have actually produced units that um essentially what we did was we just moved around some of the numbers in the plan. So, um, to address that prior round issue, there was a a project on Lacawana Avenue
that had been identified to produce, uh, several units. Uh, we counted for five credits toward the the prior round RDP, the realistic development potential for that round. Nothing's happened with that project. There had been an application before the board some years ago. It's at
this point in limbo. So, Fair Share asked us to replace that with something a little more real. And so we took some of the credits from the the citizen project that's up and occupied and just used those to fill in that gap. Um so just sliding from one to the other. And
then we took that Lacawana Avenue site and put it into the unmet need bucket which is a little more aspirational rather than than concrete. The um so that was one one change. The next change we have a a call for a
slight increase in density. the AMF zone, the affordable multif family zone that is um it it includes several properties around the overlook tower office building and then the parking lot portion of that property. And that was
zoned as a an overlay zone for the third round, which means you have the commercial zoning that's in place, but also an option for an affordable housing development as a as a second option instead of the commercial zone. Nothing's happened with that property.
Obviously, it's still occupied as an office building, still active and and in good use. But, um, as kind of a a means to satisfy the request from from Fair Share Housing Center, we are going to have an ordinance introduced with the
the governing body to increase the permitted density in that overlay zone from 35 units per acre to 40 units per acre. Uh, I think the net result of that would be an extra five or six affordable units in the scheme of things if it ever does happen that there's a development
there. And then the last few changes were really just to to clean up the there's several summary tables that have all of this tabulation of the credits over the different rounds. We're swapping in, swapping out, and changing some of the numbers. So, we we cleaned up those
tables and then we updated some of the language related to the statewide administrative code, the rules that govern affordable housing at the state level. When the plan was written last year and adopted in June, a lot of the changes um that have since been
instituted at the state level on to those rules weren't in place yet. So, as of November, December of 2025, there were changes to several sections of the administrative code. So, we just updated some references and some language to indicate that those changes have taken place and that the township is going to
update its ordinances accordingly. So, that's it. Very, very minor changes. Not identifying new sites. We're not, you know, reszoning massive parts of town. Nothing of any real consequence is changing from June. It's just a matter of few little cleanup items as requested
by Fair Share Housing Center and consistent with the township's agreement that has been entered into with them and then there'll be some ordinances say to follow just to line up what I just mentioned. That's all.
>> Thank you very much. Thank you for all the work you put into that. Um councelor, what's our responsibility in this matter? Very good. Um any questions to the board members? >> Uh approximately what percentage of our
uh obligation for fair housing has the municipality met? >> You know, >> it's not it's not a it's not a very large percentage. So the overall obligation over the course of the last 40 years is let me see
it's a lot. Um so the round four obligation with the number that we settled on was um 174 units for just the 10 years from now through 2035. Prior to that um there was a
cumulative obligation of 552 units. So all told, uh about 725 units, give or take. Um and we've got about 60 or so credits between the units that have been built and some bonus credits
that have been achieved. So with a little less than 10% something like that. Is that fairly typical for most municipalities? >> For for places like Little Falls that are largely built out, it is. And a lot of the tools that we use to address the
obligation reflect that there's not vacant land available to just go out there and build something on. You know, if you're going to, and we see this right in town, if if something's happening, chances are it's replacing something that was there before. So, you know, that redevelopment process is
really how units may be created in the future because you're not going to go out and buy an old farm and put up a subdivision. Um, so it's yeah, this I I think Little Falls has done a good job both historically and with this round
and the fact that we didn't see any more substantial challenge to the plan reflects that. You know, there this wasn't a a big glowing target like some municipalities have been. So, I think we've done a done a good job. >> Thank you. You stated 174 units. What
was the original number? >> Um, well, the 174 we we brought down the um what was the original number? It was originally it was 285. We looked
at how that number was allocated based on the availability of land and the other factors. After reviewing that, we brought it down to 174. And then when doing the plan, the actual realistic development potential number that we
came up with was three units because, as I said, there's no no land available. So, we targeted potential redevelopment through these overlay zones and that's that's our obligation. When did round four start? >> It began as of uh July 1st of 2025. So
>> and prior to that was round three. And if I understand correctly, we met our application for round three. Correct. >> Well, again, the same process of of looking at the amount of land that's available and adjusting the number down through the realistic development
potential based on the amount of vacant and developable land. So the township satisfied what it was obligated to do. There's still this large number of units that are considered unmet need. So if there were a project that came along, we
may have to consider it in that context. It's not like you you had 400 units you had to provide and you provided 400 units. It's that we've planned for what we can realistically accommodate. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Any questions for the board members? We
have a motion to open up the meeting to the public. Motion >> second. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Meeting is now open to the public for comments only on the uh application before us. Anyone wishing to come
forward? No one coming forward. I close the meeting to the public. Councelor resolution master did that municipalities are on the clock. They
have that done by March 15. >> Correction. Yes. So this is a very busy month for planners and students because every board meeting resolution motion and also to adopt the resolution of the
Very well. May I have a motion? >> I'll I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Please pull the board. >> Vice Chairman Barry. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Mr. Luke.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Palo. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Dolan. >> Yes. >> Mr. RMA. >> Yes. >> Jordan. Mr. Patrick. Chairman Hill. Chairman and both. Yes. The uh
application for the amendment and the immediate resolution are both approved. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Barry. >> Thank you. >> First application is Martana Enterprises LLC. Evening Mr. Chairman board council is
Anthony Fello. My office at 16. I'm here this evening on behalf of Martano Enterprise. Uh the premises are opening at 5 450 main floors. Premis consists of two lots. lot
11 and lot 12 lot entire parcel approximates two acres the lot 11 has no improvements on them consists of a parking lot it's in your RV1 zone residential zone there's no construction there's nothing proposed to
be built there at this house about 25% of the total bio acre lot number as well as the bigger parts of the property which already exists uh office uses and industrial warehouses.
The applicant has been before the board at least six times over the past several years started back in 1989 when Mr. Mareno is the principal of Margaro Enterprises not did not even own the problem. Foundry INC at that time came
before the board. Uh we petitioned the board to have the RB1 excuse me the light industry zone which you could problem lies to be used for general retail as well as office
and the board granted the program at that time for general retail uh as well as office. Nothing ever happened with that. The pro was laid for many years. Mr. Marando came before the board. I think represent
2004 uh to have a karate studio. That was a service use not allowable because you could only use business office space in in that of its own. We came before the board uh again in 2006 for retail
food. That's not allowable in that district. because it only permits officers. This is a general retail used. Then again there was actually two years ago we came before the court for a service use for eyebrow and beauty
culture that was allowable that wasn't permitted by the board to use as a retail service and then again before the board uh to have a variety studio uh come in for one units again that's a service as opposed
to an office so it has a history on this side of the for granted permission for retail service establishment that's where the commits use the back portion of the property the rear portion I guess that would be the
western southernmost port uh is has been and always will be remains industrial there's a warehouse back there at the time in memorial it was a foundry so there's warehousing and some industrial manufacturing of components nothing to
be done with respect to that file. Now, this application proposes no expansion buildings, nothing going to be added to the building. Anything that's going to occur respect to this application is going to be in the interior in the use of the existing uh floor space that's there. The first
thing that's asked for is there's a a unit on on the eastern most side. It's plumbing that'll supply operating the business offices there. It's a rather large unit. It's proposed that that be divided in half. Strangely enough, there's bathrooms in each of those two
units. It's almost made for something. Frankly, it doesn't require any action of the board. It requires an application made for interior change. I have divining wall and whatever has to doors that open, shut, and bathrooms that are already there. With respect to the
second floor of the premises that are parallel to Main Street, it's proposed that two of those office units uh be transposed into two apartments. Uh you can see from the plans the apartments are rather small. I think they're 1100
to,200 square ft. One bedroom, one bath and a kitchen and dining uh living area. small units. With respect to the other units that are there, the so-called office units and those that have transitive unit retail, it is proposed
that with respect to those units that have retail as well as service establishments allowed. Your planner has looked at it and made a a really wise suggestion. Namely, that we would
limit our use to those solutions that are applicable in your Bzone. Your Vzone permits office, retail, and services. So, that in essence is the application uh to allow Mr. Nor will convert some of
the office space that's there and some of them that are non- rentable and have a history of not being rented. They can be turned into a Dzone either retail or service type of establishing that historically
that our application has given you copies of the resolutions those past applications for the board. I'd like to pull up through Mart just to give an overview testimony put on the next thing
testimony and sir are Are you uh associated with water enterprises? Are you a principal of that uh LLC? Are you a city for their bean only this property for some period of
time? You title in October of 2020. Okay. Testing. During that period of time, you appeared before this board on many occasions uh and historically have uh made applications that embrace the summary
that I gave to the board. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> What is located in the premises at present in terms of the non-industrial portion store HVAC plumbing?
Is that the store that you proposed to divide in half? >> Yes, that's correct. Okay. Uh is there bathroom facilities in each of the house that you proposed to it's already there on the setup for that? What what may be be required that you be separated and
make two stores out of the wall? >> Uh just speaking just speaking to a state instead of having one large story and that you require a petition wall to
divide that one store into two. Correct. There's there actually is a petition wall in there already that they split over the office. be quiet. It's very little move. What What else is located to the
right of that is the laundromat which is great. To the right of that the corner of the driveway is the art and pino you know work plates itself wood and painting above
that is pearl fitness who's been there for 2007 left of that the dance studio effects coming inside the parking lot nail salon to to the right of the now in the center
of a building where they they they lease out equipment handicap wheelchair portaotties and bed pants.
To the right of that would be FedEx. Yes. Shipping building. Second floor would be the left the eyebrow what Mr. Dwell spoke about and to the right of that text. So there's a combination of
service uses, retail uses and office uses existing president proposed that you'll be allowed to uh utilize all of those spaces you just described as as is permitted in the viso
namely for retail service as well as office use. Is that correct? Now does that require any external additions uh or amendations to the property? No. Uh you do propose that we do something.
>> Yes. We were uh when we were here back in August August August was in the summer in the summer. August or July we were here. We had a I was testifying u
sound like the board wanted more residential look to the building that's currently there. So, I testified that we're going to remove the roofs around the back coming around the to shingle roofs, uh, gutters,
leaves, and drains. That was all done to to the point where we can have to stop 10. That's why we stopped. We didn't continue to front. And then it was uh brought to our attention that we wanted to front done a more residential
look. Uh it was party board that was uh mentioned and uh brick facade. If you propose it's going to look like we discussed it all board on the second floor brick on the first floor colors I
didn't really it's really irrelevant more I what I like it's really what the board likes. You have no color of the planking that will go above the brick lower facade. Is that correct?
You you would have no objection to uh stipulating that your use of application would be for those uses permitted in the B zone that the opposed to getting applications unit by
unit by unit. >> Correct. Was it difficult trying to get attendance over the years for office space alone? Almost impossible because every time they have to come, it's going to be a threemon wait. They just leave.
>> And your building is surrounded by uh uses that are consistent with the Bone, >> right? >> Retail surround your premises, restaurants, stores and service units. Mr. Mr. Chairman, I have nothing further
considered. >> Thank you. Just since you're up here, um would you have any objection to doing goose lighting on the exterior of the building on Main Street? >> No, Ch. I believe at the last meeting. >> That would be great. And the next one is
we're referring to Bzone, but there are three Bzones. So we're referring specifically to B1 >> B1 >> which is in the planning report. >> Thank you. >> You said thank you. Great.
>> I'd like to pull engineer Gerardio right hand. I do. >> Sure. >> Gerard Jacario. Last name is G S A R IO. Mr. W
background resume engineer. >> Sure. Uh 1988 graduate of the New Jersey Institute of Technology with a bachelor of science in civil engineering. I received my New Jersey professional
engineers license in 1994 and licensed in good standing since that time. Um the last 12 years I've been employed as the director of civil engineering for JARL Taisel Architects and Engineers. During that time I've
appeared before over uh 50 different boards throughout the state. Little Falls not being one of them. This is my first time here. That's it. Okay. >> Are all licensed current? >> Yes. >> Thank you.
>> Exactly. >> Plans applications. Is that correct? >> Yes. If you uh put your plans up for the board to see as you testify. >> Sure. One exhibit and Ariel. >> Yes.
That'll normally be able Smile. Pivotal exhibit outside February 5th, 2026. This area shows our site outline 453
main street. Um it is two lots council mention 11 12 lot 11 parking lot 125 you can see where the service surrounding area
crosses for our property. site planification. No, she part of our package because the existing site on the left side and proposed site plan on the
right side. Uh from a site plan point of view, not much to talk about. The only improvement parking lot was to bring the 88 parking spaces up with the number of spaces.
So that's the proposed going out building improvements as a summarized the two retail faces ground two apartments on the second floor
roughly one is roughly 1154 the roughly 453 communication second story businesses. So the customers are one bedroom, two bedroom plus a
>> uh access stairway. I'm pointing to the right there. >> Have you made an evaluation and actually inspection concerning the lighting? >> Yeah, I'll touch on that. One more thing
I will I know question but this is the style top the same area
street that drive7 develop dry usage require 60 spaces. We're gonna have space outside trash collection question about there are containers on site so few of them
this season the African has informed me that we've been operating over containers for the last 25 years hasn't had any issues with access to lighting just mentioned
lighting is proposed in the inventory of what's out there along the plan right parking lot. There's three existing ground shoers along the facade. There were five
sponsors on similarities there on the right side of the plant buildings concentrate the second story windows. Two more on the third floor as
well as two bottles along the concrete. First of an access panic side walkway seemed well lit didn't have a light in here so I can't test
but as soon as you do that it's also allaping is proposed and dates on price or >> that's not any addition uh to the square footage of the building at all this
>> no >> and the operation of the facility is such that those using the warehouse portion of the site enter and exit along Grove Street Main Street
>> um for the for the 12 and access. There is no connection there 11 >> and the entrance and egress from the commercial portion of construction on main street is through the driveway the
front of the buildings. Correct. So the people coming and going to use the uh retail establishments and the service establishments will enter and exit over the existing driveway on Main Street. They don't exit through the
building out on grow street and nothing with respect to the industrial portion of it warehousing lead or enter the property through main street rather and there's no intensification of anything in the industrial portion of the facility
warehousing no increase in volume space like there's no increase in volume of floor the need for >> correct >> there there's no drainage issues here by virtue of any
>> existing um not increasing any >> no storm water problem would exist today in the same >> correct do you have any other observations
Thank >> uh Mr. Kovalears, you have any comments? Uh yes. Um for the lighting compare show
that information residential area have access the issue about storage. >> No, it's site the residents.
about the parking area. Is there going to be a designated parking area for that? >> We can designate wherever that would be delineated should be provided >> the board will require
this request. >> Okay. You said that Very difficult. Say that any have to speak louder. Isabing Those are the ones that will be
accessible for the tenant. >> Um far as landscaping goes that in the rear of the property near the Gro Street access. I think along that fence line there you
can some additional landscaping just to provide a buff to that residential road. Not touching the bottom of the back half of the property. >> No additions, no anything.
Is there landscaping back there now? >> There is some, but it's there are some gaps. Yes, along that area along the uh homes with some gas. >> I know there's exist some infill to provide a little better
problem. We have you say there's a storm drain in from the >> plans. be planting trees >> over. >> Yes, if it's a shallow but if you can take a look at that it's
take a look. Um also notice the table surface disregard my into my neutral
technical combination. is more aesthetic. So not >> all. >> Thank you, Mr. Kar. Any questions to the board? >> Mr. Barry. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh just a
couple. Uh, is any additional signage being proposed on the facade of the building as a result of going from one tenant space to two? >> No. >> So, >> other than existing sign, >> so if you have
>> But if you have a new >> but if you have one tenant space now with one sign and you have two tenants, will you not need two signs? directory there. >> Okay. >> To check and what comes out, we take it out.
>> Okay. And we actually have extras. >> Um, and then not to beat the refuge to death, but there will be separate recycling and trash collection facilities for the residential units that will be easily
accessible, not part of the industrial complex. >> Okay. Okay. because the the locations that were being shown looked like they were pretty far from the residential units. So, I just want to make sure that they're in a a location that's convenient for the
tenants. And then the only other comment there there appeared to be some discrepancies with the parking calculations on the cover sheet of the the plans. I would just request that you take a look at that, confirm the square footages of the different uses and so we have that have
a clean set for the record. Thank you. We don't need to go into it right now, just as a revised plan. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any questions of the boards? >> Um I'm trying to imagine exactly where
that goes. So on top of the nail salon and UPS store I'm trying to figure out exactly. >> Oh okay. So I was but your question is I was
looking at this like I think I was I was trying to see where um I heard your plumbing. So what is placed right now for your retail stores? You already have two bathrooms
for each. So you are not going to have more bathroom. So that size and how we land in the indication are you going to install or are you letting the tenants install the lage? I'm just
thinking of the problem. No, no. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Any additional questions? May I have a motion to open up the meeting to the public? >> Make a motion. >> Second.
>> Can I have a second? Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. Meeting is now open to the public for Marina application. Anyone wishing to address the board, please come forward. No one coming forward. I close the
meeting. have uh our planner prepared here this evening to testify, Alex. >> I do. scholarship last ghy experience >> I educate senator ruckers fing a masters
in city region planning a contration development develop certification public policy my license I testified before this board I believe about a year or two ago I testified as capacity on a weekly daily basis and also the mipal planner for Morris
You are accepted. >> Do you have an expectation to visit the site to review the application? I have. I don't want to belabor this uh application. I did visit the site. I flew the drone. Um boots on the ground. Every application I testified to. I'd like to actually be able to see what's
going on out there. Um so I do have exhibit package just maps and aerial shots. Please board. I'll pass it out. If not, I'll just go right to the variances and discuss the matter that we're here for. I'm sorry. >> This is a Z1.
>> Yeah. Just a nine sheets. I have a total of nine. It has to be uh >> this will be sorry. So the purpose of the conversation as a
board heard here for 453 Main Street, block 56, lot 11 as councelor described it. two separate properties really the the larger portion of the building here for um and block 12 lot 11 consists of
that parking shots two separate zones. So the first two slides um we looked at the the zone where we are within the township of Little Falls generally circling yellows kind of the walk side but off main street. The next slide over we zoom in a little bit. We kind of see
just how that that eye industrial zone was is a budding uh you know zone. Um and that that little slither on that black line that's that race border is really that parking uh that we were discussing. The next couple of slides
we're going to look at um are from NJBP's GO web outlined in red because the property in question as you can see we kind of above that rail line um back behind Grove is a residential and then really across the street as you kind of flip back between stage one and two is
that uh that business that we want zone. So generally speaking the uh the the next slide is just an aerial top down um from uh NDP geo web and slide five is going to be a Google Earth aerial view.
So you see it um the next couple slides are drone shots that I took up on my site visit on August 23rd. So we've been floating on this application for a while. Um, in this shot, what you'll notice here is
there's obviously, as the board knows, it's been some redevelopment. There's been some, uh, you know, new additions along Main just across the, uh, railroad track. But in this site, uh, you'll see on the bottom bottom right is the, uh, property in question. The roof is uh, at
this point in stage being repaired, replenished. Um, and you can see that's the structure exists pretty much today. Um, you see the parking lot off to the right. generally what's around it some residential impact. Next couple shots we spin the drone around different perspectives we have the uh the church
and the cap school off to the right adjacent us again keeping the uh property in question in the foreground on page eight. Um we spin that around look behind road there's that entry point for that separate industrial use.
We kind of see uh dead ends in the back of the property. Again, we kind of see the group that's being prepared, but again, that that large um parking lot as you can see in the Terron middle of the day, substantially vacant as the engineer testified before. Uh we can certainly accommodate the parking with
the additional uptick in tenants as well as uses here. Um the next uh slide is just a a quad, if you will, a four brain makeup of some of the uh surrounding conditions uh in use this year. Top left
will be uh um you know this the the rare steakhouse patty corner across the track. So you see we have some some residential. We have some some uh eeries top right directly across the street. Um this is that B that B1 zone we were just discussing as outlined um
some of the uses that we're hoping can be uh looked upon favorably for for the site in question. They're right across the street. Um bottom left is that newer housing complex just right down kind of patting corner from the steakhouse. Bottom right is I would argue one of the
only other remnants of the industrial zone. Looks like just an out and outdoor storage kind of of some machinery across street and it's a pocket by itself um hidden behind some vegetation a single structure. But generally
speaking, this is a very large site as the planner uh uh report indicates approximately two acres of size really large big apartment lot as uh on main street is vibrant retail just driving past coming into the
meeting swelled up you have the art sails there's a lot of activity here I think for many years as council open uh residents and community looked at this as an amenity um some service and retail opportunities
here and and that's kind of what the site attracts and uh as council indicated for the time it takes to come forward or ask for reduced variance for tenant they've already left but I think what I'm getting at was prior prior
application for various retail so part of this application is challen one space to create a second hopefully works service retail or it's going to explo population. Um earlier this evening we talked about how township for the falls
is pretty much at capacity season residents. This is a large site. We have another commercial retail amenity here for the community at large that really having grown to public kind of a commercial strip if you will
of service to retail with that. law space on the second floor um hasn't boosted by a time discussion with the applicant but to be repurposed that efficient use of buy two small
single bed apartments there basically for um more traditional use for possible choices and options everybody can home everybody wants to you know go to the dig parking complexes this is small boutique it's there maybe
it's one of staff one of these three retails are living in that unit there's an opportunity to give required housing um with that though we do travel so so we are here for essentially use variance I like to think that the prior uses before this board found test suitable
that retail can't be there I like to echo some of that that you know site has been for this board for several experiences in the past um site suitability I like to think we on every single one of those didn't there this site pursuit that um retail exists right
across the street from the business zone which allows a lot of those retails that receive tonight they're outlining the planner de memo community accustomed to it they're here they is particularly suited with the direction is going on on main street I would argue from a planning standpoint that it be here
strictly to the industrial zone but that larger building I think that would be more deterrent or unattractive on the street given development Blue Falls over the years the direction retail works here was surrounded by retail restaurants
eeries services for the community at large. Um I I would argue site suitability by the condition of the site as it remains the general context where we are the domes um make this site to add an additional retail as well as park it. I don't believe negative effects by
adding an additional retail splitting that additional one. you can't park it utility here use of land the housing I believe when we look at that as a variance that mixed use component it's um when we look at the general zone especially you change
the zone that R1B zone you do allow for home applications as well so is it atyp it's atypical to see um let's say a business with the residency department along the street or within straddle zones um so I would say that we're not
out of character with what one may anticipate seeing along Main Street here, but again, we're on the second floor. It's well blended and there's nothing here that might say that this is, you know, a house or a large scale apartment. These are small one bedrooms.
Um, with fire discussions, the idea to make to soften this site to blend your apartment with the main street with a new facade, we would give them appearance that this is a a wellkept, you know, mixed shoes. But that mixed use is really just two apartments single
bedroom with the den. This is not a large scale mixed use by way of 25 apartments or 15. This is small efficient as you heard washer and dryer downstairs. These are those efficiency units where get ass
transitional housing if you will. These are those kind of arrangements given that part site given some of the time comments reported about adequate lighting safety concerns. I do not believe that adding residential will have a negative effect to the site as
character but a zone that allows for for residential uses as well as home occupational purposes as well. So I think we're in that frame shown if you will that transition zone that buffer um I would argue the last part of that test really is to reconcile zone and master
plan part of that test really the first one coming in for that variance pretty much has your wedding in we have to say well if you know site suitable you know keep asking that each var that's part of the zoning
kind of law over the year considered for free resone from a planning standpoint. Um I think the industrial zone in this location is is irrelevant exist. I would argue that this this site should potentially warrant the idea of
potentially reszoning it more of that one corridor um to be more in keeping with main street and what's there. Um I would argue the industrial right on main street or or out and packaging would would not be the ideal direction that's
here given the context of residential surrounding um from a planning standpoint or barriers rail lines rivers that kind of stuff may build contrast from entering one building to another kind of blending that now again time but
I would say it's particularly suited by condition in the site for both the residential And he makes shoes saying we'd certainly be advancing the general of welfare which was purpose a miscellaneous law desirable environment purpose I stop upgrade and in keeping
and certainly more efficient use of land as well. I do not see the land of this part utility area still reprogram that that interior with hopefully continued positive investment to the site and new facade some new things
landscape fencing that I would say visiting the site the landscaping would be difficult amount amount of landscape effect there are some robust trees or fences there and pretty much goes right there's a little pocket there
I I would have find it very difficult plan for do anything of substance given those conditions but certainly um you do find the that detaining wall fence there picking that up and you know patching
potholes or or broken asphalt and the lighting I think certainly adds value to the site but outside the landscaping I many of the things as well as the condition the recommendations to the planning report. We need to make sure the site circulates, refuge, dumpster,
item safety. Um, and the general idea that we talk about signage item fire. I think the comments here at the board make a better application but
for retail I think mostly sir the photograph 89 of the packet shows an overview of the site exist today and you'll note the rear of the cipher appears to be a wholesome amount of
landscaping like big coniferous trees but these foliage here those face or any other >> right that sign. >> Yeah. Which I would say is the residential properties but inside the
parking lot there might be a foot or two right before that fence that's behind those trees and then right around the uh the chaining fence that open city there's a small little bump out. It it really is that asphalt goes right back
generally speaking. >> I have nothing further from the standard. >> Any questions for the planner? >> Thank you, >> Mr. Chairman. One question, >> Mr. Chairman. If I may, real Mr. Chairman. >> Yes.
>> One brief uh comment and question combined. So, in my in my report, I had noted that the situation we find ourselves in is is unique in that we're not asking for a particular use for the commercial space moving forward, but
rather a more of a blanket permission. So, I would ask Mr. Dy, are there any of the uses in the B1 zone that you feel may be less appropriate than others? Do you feel the site can accommodate any of the uses that I've that I've listed in
my report? I think you hit it right on the nail on the head. B1 just right across the street talking with GA doing this. That was going to be my suggestion and you didn't make that suggestion of what uses should use. Uh but I there was no push
back on D1 uses. I think that's generally the direction we're looking. >> Okay. And then for the board's consideration um and again to echo my report I think we want to define the space on the in the building on the site that would be the subject of this
blanket um use if so granted and I think it's the existing commercial spaces that have been used for retail sales and service over the years kind of that L-shaped part of the building not the entire back half of the industrial building as well that's a different
animal. >> Yeah. And furthermore, obviously, any use that comes in, there would be a zoning review and continued compliance with the parking on site would be a requirement for any use. So, a a
restaurant, for instance, would have a higher parking requirement than might an office. So, the applicant would have to choose uses that could be accommodated with the parking lot that exists. response. >> Very good. >> Chairman, that is our that is our
application. Be sure to have any questions any of our witnesses and be happy to >> Are there any questions for the board? Thank you very much, >> chairman. To the public.
>> I didn't know they had a planner. >> All right. May I have a motion to reopen the meeting to the public for any questions to the planner? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Uh Roco S. And uh all those in favor I
>> I meeting is now open to the public. No one coming forward. I close the meeting to the public. Mr. Brook is really doing something. >> Well, look at the the over not there's a
lot of landscaping in the back. >> There's some larger trees beyond the fence and rowated that we do some infill. Yes, that's exactly final cycle
news floor services. abuses on that conditions showing the blade to make sure there's problem sighting. department
on the bottom building four and five confide. areas conditionical. We we agree to that. We agreed to that. Okay.
any any just to be clear, we're not saying cold patch. We're saying natural repairs. Want to make that clear, right? Okay. commercial building condition, right? any any surf area closest to the
trash and recycling. Make sure that condition Mr. Barry has a question. >> There are a number of uh existing nonconformities on this site. Should we uh Mr. Brigladoro address them as a
variance? >> Are you asking for the variances that are all there are only three variances for our zoning control? All of them are used variances. Everything else is pre-existing. They're set forth in our
>> I know they're left. So you don't need you're not asking for those existing conditions. >> No. >> Okay. >> Very well. Going forward. May I have a motion? >> Chairman, I'll make the motion to approve this application for two
residential units and a retail um store. um as articulated by Mr. Brigliadoro in u in this application. May I have a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion?
>> Please pull the board. >> Vice Chairman Barry. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kas. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gaba. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kos. >> Yes. >> Dr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Dolan >> yes >> chairman
>> Kilpatrick >> chairman votes yes the application is approved >> Mr. Chairman >> thank you Mr. going to declare a five minute temper break. >> Call the meeting of the painting board
of adjustment back to order. Next application and I hope I pronounce this right. Raz Raz Dispensary LLC >> been a lawyer for 20 years and I've never met that old
y'all don't mind. I think I'll stand over here if that's all right. Sorry. >> Yes. I'm gonna give audience to the and all right so I'm Stephanie Mccclure thank you for staying for this uh second
half here I appreciate it we will do our best to be efficient so we're not >> we just have one announcement that we call the meetings end the meetings at 10 >> very good oh we won't be close at 10 I'll be in bed at 10 I guarantee
I guarantee that I'm in any event again my name is Flora. I represent Ron that is a distinct pleasure. Uh I know I represent them but I also live here which is dangerously uh close to 50 uh
years. I won't say the exact number because this is YouTube. So that said, I'll be happy to present our architect who has a presentation plan to go through the exam. I would ask
for indulgence to allow me to present it rather than a question answer format. I think I would just labor things if that kind introduce them in a moment. I also have for the operations questions. We have an
operation as well. So with that, I think the board has any question. >> All right. >> Thank you very much. >> If I could ask you to inform the pool of
your background >> after you clear it. >> Yes. Exactly. I do. >> Certainly. Ron Elkins. Uh last name Elk I Ins. Business name is Twooint Perspective. And uh I am an architect in
with my license and good standing. Been licensed for 24 years in 10 states, New Jersey for the past five years. >> Licenses are all active. >> Yes. And I do have updated drawings uh to
present. I've got uh full-size drawings. Looks like the easel might not be appropriate for the the rolled drawings, but I do have 10 copies of 11 by 17. of so if uh I can present those great I bring my computer
to walk through the those digitally themselves >> these are substantially similar to the drawings that were submitted originally just with updates based on the engineering reports and the planning So
>> this is not the revised drawings. >> And the revisions have been clouded with a red bubble. >> So yes, certainly. >> Certainly. So the drawings that uh were just delivered were the updated drawings
for the uh ROS dispensary. Um the comments have been made based on or the updates have been made based on the planning and engineering reports and uh the revisions have been noted in a a red cloud with tagged with the letter A u
with today's date. So the project as uh council had mentioned uh or as everyone has seen is Raz Dispensary located at 620 uh US 46. I apologize I'm coming over the end of a cold so I'm still a little steppy here in Little Falls. It is a one-story
building. Um actually the address is also known as block 203 lot number one. It's in a B2 business zone. It's a existing single tenant one-story building approximately 1,200 square feet in total formerly used as Liberty Travel
and has been vacant for another um on the as we go through the set. Um sheet G002 just shows a few images of the exterior of the building. I'm sure you've all driven by it a million times. U small
nondescript uh gray building. uh low flat roof, some existing signage on the property, which I'll touch on briefly. And as for the existing site itself, um going forward to sheet A001
is a site plan with, as you can see, lots of minor updates to that. Um the site work basically, we're not planning on any substantial additions to the building. Uh we will be making uh adjustments to the exterior facade of the building which I'll touch on later.
But as far as the site work goes, we are planning on restriping the parking lot because it's faded and I think there was a note that the uh the striping is double striped whereas old markings are still there partially. It's a little bit confusing and I would agree with that uh completely. It is noticeably, you know,
unusual >> also with the top uh topography of the site, which isn't really indicated on this site plan, but um there is a a relatively steep drop with no guardrail. So, we will be adding a guardrail um for safety.
The there are a few existing non-conforming conditions which while we're the still the work that we're proposing does not increase that non-conformity. Oh, sorry. Little bit of background noise. Sure. Everyone's coming in. They want to Sorry.
>> Oh, I um also one of the items that was noted in the engineering and planning reports were just cleaning up any debris on the site and there were a few u trees that might either be diseased or or already dead that would be uh need to be
assessed and taken care of. And the other site work that we're proposing is enclosing the trash dumpster, which is basically just sitting loose on the parking lot right now. Keeping in a similar location, similar location, but just enclosing it um out of view.
There will be new directional arrows painted and signage painted on or the site basically for traffic flow. It is a very unique site as we as we've all known. It's, you know, three principal buildings on the site, multiple entrances directly from U Route 46. Um
so just wanting to make sure that safety is vehicle safety is um customers and staff will come in on the eastern most um you know curb cut and then exit at the southernmost or western most curve pick with the middle
curve cut mainly being the existing entrance for um I believe that is interpret. Yes, we are also proposing a manually operated gate at the entrance of the property at the eastern end that would only be enclo or that would only be
closed rather when u the business is uh closed as well mainly to keep people from you know accessing the site for security after uh closing. We're also planning on adding some additional uh parking lot lighting to
the building itself. Uh there are two light poles now that provide light to the to the site. Uh we will keeping those not touching those and just adding more lighting to the buildings. There is some lighting that uh I've noticed it's a spillover from uh Route
46. So, you know, that's obviously out of the, you know, off of the site and would be part of this this um as far as the interior work goes. Oh, I'm sorry. We I over this too. We're also planning on adding more landscaping
right directly on the street or the the Route 46 furniture. And there now are uh species identified for those whereas in the original documents they were Moving to the interior of the building.
That would be sheet A100. Uh you can see the floor plan of the building. Uh the customers typically would enter from the the existing entrance door. Upon entry, they would have their identification checked, make sure they're at least 21 years old, and
then at that point, then they would go into the the general retail area to to browse products and shop. Um, as is the requirement with state law, there will be no cannabis products live, I guess you could say, on the floor. Uh, any
products be dummy products or lower THC products that aren't regulated or non-regulated products, t-shirts, hats, um, souvenirs, things like that. Um once a customer has made their order, um you know, they go to the point of sale station, that counter there with the
four cash registers, and they would receive their order, um from the the employee, the bud tender, um who would pick up the the cannabis package from a a two-way secure pass through directly from the vault, which is on the eastern
side, the right hand side of the property. So all cannabis products are stored in the vault at all times except when they're passed, you know, to the customer after they're once the bud tender or right before the bud tender gives the customer their
product, um they double check the ID again, make sure it is this person is who they say they are, they are of age and at which point then they exit through the new exit door directly from the retail space. Um the windows that you see in the uh
front of the building, the bottom of the plant, those are existing, but they will be covered with a uh heavy duty security film that is also so that'll block the direct view from the parking lot um directly into the the street space.
Um that's the customer flow, I guess, the product flow. uh on the right hand side of the property or the the building you can see there's a a dashed rectangle which is supposed to be a representation of a a delivery van. So deliveries will be made by uh you know unmarked vans
like a Dodge Sprinter van or something of that scale. And basically uh there's a new wood fence that we're proposing around that side of the building that's also secure like a sally port. So the van comes in and the gate is closed behind them. Then they go in
through the I know the ordinance basically stipulates the rear door. Um but the due to the topography of this building uh there is a retaining wall that's about four 4 and 1/2 ft uh up. So in order to get a rear door to the
building itself would be very difficult but we did add a another secure man trap that we're calling it essentially a vestibule. So the deliveries would come in through that new rear door and then into the side of the building directly into the vault. Once the products are delivered into the
vault, then they will be uh unboxed or uncreated um and put into the computer inventory system and then you know securely stored there. All cannabis products are required to be stored in the vault at all times except when it's
actually delivered to the customer. Uh if there are any products that have gone off, either expired or or recalled by the by the vendor, the the supplier, then they would be stored on the top left hand side of the of the plan. There's a a trash can there, uh like a
typical 64gallon, you know, plastic trash can that you see in alleys all over the place. So, um those products are stored in the in the site or in the the property. They're not stored in a a typical, you know, trash out of the bubble.
When it's time for that trash to be disposed, uh, a licensed cannabis waste hauler would be called and scheduled the the pickup. So then the trash can would be rolled out to uh to that with funds. If you go to the next sheet, the sheet
A101 or okay, let's stay with A101. Basically, this is a simple diagram just showing the three levels of security or restricted access to the property. um the white area uh is very small at the infants. That's basically anybody
can come into that area. Um and then they might be turned away if they're underage u or if they just bad people trying to rob the place or something. But once their ID is checked, then they're allowed into the retail area which is you know noted as the
single stripe u hatch. the cross-hatch, the double hatch, which is the majority of the site is basically uh employee accessible. We're also showing the wall types, how we're proposing to keep the vault
secure, which is basically um there are existing concrete blocks and misbuilt like there was a concrete block addition built to that side of the building years ago. Um any areas that aren't secured by that masonry construction would have a it basically looks like a heavy duty
chicken wire, but it's a security mesh, an expanded security mesh. It's about a 2 millimeter thick mesh that is applied directly below the drywall or on the wall before the drywall. So um just a limit access to those uh those spaces.
Going on to the next sheet, A1102. This is the security plan which basically shows the required cameras. There are three camera types that we're showing. Single uh fixed cameras and >> pardon me. >> Sorry if I'm going into too much detail. Just tell me to stop
>> but we won't block this. >> I feel fortunate that we all have in front of us. >> Sure. Certainly. Okay. In broad in broad terms, yeah, in in broad terms, c every room except
for the restroom is covered with cameras, multiple locations, glass break sensors, sensors. Um the the plan is to basically track everybody's face, you know, and the back of their head as they come and as they leave as they go through the space as well as all of the
doors will have key fob electronic access for a digital record of who comes, who leaves, um things like that. U also with the unique condition of this building, um I was able to walk onto the roof really easily. you know, you walk to the back, you know, above the uh the
retaining wall, walk up the the slope, you can turn around, get on the roof. We're also having uh showing cameras or there will be cameras on the the roof as well, as well as the exterior. So, all in all, I think there was 35 to 40 handles.
Um looking at the exterior of the building, sheet A200, uh basically the volume of the building will not be changing. Um, we will be changing the finishes on the exterior as well as adding some uh exterior wood sighting uh accent elements which will
be extended to also um enclose the secure delivery area. Um on the roof we will be having some new mechanical equipment. Um as well as a a small uh natural gas powered generator to provide
backup power for the uh all the security systems, door locks, cameras, etc. Um it's a state requirement that um at all times uh video has to be stored even during parallelism.
So the existing sign um on the building itself uh is going to remain basically intact with new graphics and then the on the next sheet A20 which is also a new sheet compared to the original civil uh we're proposing
reinstalling the the large sign that is on the pylon basically bringing back what was there but again with the grains not expanding the size of that it used to be just replacing was damaged. Um I also do want to point out um
security. Uh there will be a guard uh on site. >> Uh the guard will, you know, sometimes they will check their IDs. Uh sometimes they will actually be wandering around the exterior of the property. Basically making sure that there's no noise, there's no uh activity happening on the parking lot other than just vehicles,
you know, coming going. Um, also making sure that there is no uh on-site consumption whether it's out in the open or in in the items. Um, basically the parking lot should be used for parties and that's no parties
or anything else. Um, odor mitigation. Uh, all the products will be delivered to the site prepackaged in um either cellopane, shrink wrap boxes, so there'll be no loose uh flour or plants. Um, that'll keep the order down. But then in addition to that there is going
to be a u an industrial grade essentially exhaust fan with carbon filtration. So that cuts down any other so there will be no smells that that uh escape the property. Um there will be no exterior um
amplified sound. I know that was a a question as well that came up on the engineering report. So no speakers, no music, things like that. The exterior And I believe that's it for the vote.
>> Uh, Mr. Barry, >> are the signs in compliance? >> The >> this is the first time you're seeing them, Mal. >> The the signs um are they're replacing what was formerly on the site, but they
are not in compliance. The sign attached to the building extends above the roof line which is not permitted and then the freestanding sign is also you know a replica of what was there previously but it was not a conforming sign.
>> So variances would be required >> correct. >> Do we have do you have the measurements? >> We do. >> I could read those off if that would be helpful. >> Do you have the compliance? you have what's allowed?
>> Um, it wouldn't be allowed at all since it's a pilot sign, not a license, but there are a number of uh other signs in the area that are relatively new that uh are very similar in >> each application is separate.
>> Exactly. >> The vault, do you move all the product into the vault at night or do you keep it in the vault and just bring it out? That's a good point that that's more on the operations side. So be able to test.
>> I just adise B. That's what called my attention to. >> Exactly. Yeah. Generally, you know, they try to be 30% 15 to 30% of the size. I think too it would be good to accept
the money actually the training boarding. >> Yes there is the flow of traffic on the approach student.
So not as an advertising but as safety me to notify drivers that come up to that 446 approach after green and you see that sign from that site
maybe about >> I think so. >> Okay. And if it receive a mechanism to notify drivers early on, >> any thoughts on that, Mike? It's what was listed as the ID sign the
the former Liberty Travel thing. >> Exactly. >> And it's still there. It would just need good graphics. There were also engineering items uh engineering review items noted as far as the condition of the the asphalt, the
curb cuts u needed to be repaired. So those will be repaired as well. also concerning some type of barrier to prevent accident on this spot in the driveway. out here.
>> Yes, we can just >> certainly on the west of the building there is a a pretty steep drop off uh at the edge of the what would be the the Roz parking lot portion. Um we're now showing a guardrail there make sure cars
don't take a dumb. And with regards to the flow of traffic representing that easter will be reserved for >> exactly
>> the middle driveway on the property was not used. >> Correct. It would be ingress for the um middle tenant which is the enterprise meeting >> and then our outbound would be the west. Exactly. Sure.
>> And just to assure the forward of the traffic had mentioned that they would also stop sign in order to ensure that exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Directional signage
and markings on the on the pavement can also be included. Yeah, that I' I've driven that before and it is tricky. like you have to really get in there and you have to really get out fast. if you lean through the middle um the middle group
>> and right now there is no mark from other >> there's nothing >> certainly and I think it would help the other tenants as well the other two projects or two buildings >> that is the initial
question >> any questions of the board I I have a question for professional >> go ahead um what is the Uh the requirement for a dispensary to receive deliveries
um is it to the rear of the building? >> Does does this plan uh meet those requirements? >> Not technically. No, there there are there are a bunch of conditional use standards uh A through Q. So, however
many that is, 18 or 19. Um there are several that this plan doesn't meet. A lot of them by virtue of the shape and size of the existing property, but as you heard the testimony, the deliveries are proposed on the side within a fenced
area, but technically that's not the rear by strict definition. >> Thank you. Uh Mr. Kovaleis I believe has some questions. May I change subject?
>> Okay. While on the topic um if we could um just turn to the appropriate >> A so is it fair to say that anyway where the staff would be coming to actually move the product is in fact on
the side of that of the building. >> Correct. Correct. >> Okay. So while it's not on the rear of the original structure, it is indeed on the rear of the small. >> Yes. And then also with the uh enclosed
security fence around the around the delivery van, we were thinking that the intention of having a door to the rear of the deliveries was basically to hide the delivery in a sense. So by our interpretation of that was with the fence around the van as well as that
security van trap uh vestibility uh and the door being at the rear of that that that would be kind of a double a double hidden delivery >> and we will certainly have management on the topic
having particular >> exactly Yes. >> Yeah. For the first time >> review um just parking lot describe that lines. Yeah,
>> just want to confusing. I don't know what but um is the existing limits of pavement ad >> it it is. Yes, I I think it was actually more spaces there before and then we lost a couple with the loading area know
closing that and then also um the uh enclosing the trash uh dumpster as well. We lost I think it was like half a space so I had to re-engineer or resace out the spaces but we ended up with 13 spaces still >> and those were 10 by 20 spaces so they're slightly over.
>> Um striping remove >> um sighting you mentioned there is sighting again. Okay. >> Operations customs
facilities. >> Makes sense. >> Especially in the winter. I mean, we're coming out of it. Days are getting longer, but it's still getting dark at 4:30 some days. So >> I think in everything else you addressed you pretty much agree.
>> I think I think these were all good ideas and um and yeah I don't really see any any issues. I mean there are there were a number of non-conforming conditions that we're not really touching. Um so that was part of it too
with the multiple buildings on the site, mult multiple principal build buildings on the site as well as just how the site tapers down. Um very long but very unique. >> That's all I have. >> Thank you.
>> Barry. >> Yes. Um just back to the parking because we're reviewing this revised plan. I I only count 12 parking spaces right now on the the A1 exhibit. I'm looking at sheet A001.
And of those 12, the westernmost space looks like it may have some circulation issues of getting in and out. The one that's kind of at an angle to the rest of the >> There are four essentially parallel
parking spaces at the front end. Okay, let's stop right there. So, the the gate to swing into one of those four spaces and also the trash enclosure is sticking out so that as a parallel space, I'm not sure how you would get in and out of
that. >> We could always we could relocate that trash to the far eastern edge basically justifying those four spaces the other way. Um if we needed to and the gate would only
be operational after hours when parking would be needed. >> So what where if the gate is open where is where is the gate structure? >> I see what you're saying. It would be swung back against the uh concrete uh retaining wall.
>> Would that not interfere with the parking space? >> We would just have foot. So I labeled those at 10 ft. You could make those wider to accommodate that the width set that ideally that um that gate would actually
be more would be off of property, you know, to cover the driveway. Uh we just didn't want to show it not on, you know, in in the rightway of the the Route 46 as well as, you know, beyond the property. >> And um so we've talked a little bit
about some of the the challenges with with circulation. What? Somebody pulls into the property and that gate is closed. What does the maneuver look like to then get back out? >> Right. That's my concern, too. And I I'm
thinking the gate would need to be closer to the entrance to 46. >> We'll have additional money that a requirement of our SQL to get another level to make the
environment and that support we will have robust number of other ways. So certainly not what they >> the um any opinion about the ability to
access that most parking space. Um you're pulling out of pulling into or out of that space. That would require something back all the way out to the where we're showing the guardrail and then do a a right-hand
turn from there and then basically do a U-turn to go down the hill um down the driveway there. Um we were following the existing markings um without the guardrail of course, but but that's where that uh geometry came
from. That may that may be pretty intense. Well, >> uh we will certainly try to mitigate the amount uh of rethinking that we would have to do. We're not going to break the whole process uh as they're necessary,
but if it is necessary to Mr. Elkins, do you do you know the the distance between the back of the row of parking spaces that are opposite the guide rail, the proposed guide rail and the guide rail? Do do you have that dimension anywhere?
>> I do not, but I can get that. Okay. What's Okay. It also tapers down. >> I'm sorry. You said that distance is from the let's say the uh the ADA stall to the the guide rail. >> ADA stall to guide rail.
Yeah, I'm getting 37 3 based on equals 32 by engineering inch and a quart that works out to be
17. >> Oh, I was including the space. I'm sorry. >> Yeah, >> including the space. >> Yeah. So, that went down. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, >> so 37 and 20 37. >> So, again, the site is is tight and that
is um probably about 7 ft short of what we would typically look for for access to a 90° stall. So, um, did you did you analyze any kind of circulation, um, templates for the
property, just vehicles being able to to make these turns? >> We did not since there was an existing out. >> Okay. Um, and then one of the conditional use standards deals with um,
ventilation, filtration, that type of thing for for the business, for the building. Um you I think the testimony was that all of the the product arrives packaged. So there's not it would be a different concern for a cultivation or manufacturing facility, but could you provide any testimony about filtration,
air, air handling, and so forth? >> I I don't know what the CFM rating, QB permanent rating would be of of the exhaust fan itself, but it would be a general exhaust fan through the whole space that would have uh carbon filtration, all that. So >> Okay. And >> be regularly maintained. And your
expectation then would be that there'd be no odor outside the building. >> Exactly. >> But you're totally right that with the either consumption lounges or more cultivation, it's it's a bigger issue with the dispensary of retail. I
>> think uh that's all the questions I have for the moment. Thank you. >> Thank you. So just to stay a parking where do the employees park if you have 13 spaces? >> They would park at the parallel spots on the far eastern section and the
reasoning behind that is that um they would be leaving less frequently than customers would um to not block incoming traffic from. And is there a heavy rotation during the day?
kind of combines kind of uh if I may >> certainly >> um I believe I read somewhere 10 spaces uh 10 employees I know it's operations but it's it's also connected to parking so I'm combining
>> thank you step aside if you want no just mix and match one second so I I was a little confused on the exit So there's >> Yes. So the >> So can you just point that out? I can't really understand. >> Right. If I had a laser, I could do it. But >> you have a bigger drawing you could show me. >> I do actually.
>> Yeah. >> Sure. >> Please. uh enterprise here. This is this is the existing designate as
very little acceleration. So what was proposed is basically this is just another instance only. >> No I understand that. Okay they would exit through what is that the pub? Yeah. So there would be traffic
driving and it was also enterprise park. >> What about that? >> Because they have park right there. probably look to put a stopive fire to
that middle and tell them every way possible and then two ways. So this is Right. This is also right out.
And this is the area too that was interpreted as having some damage. You see the perfect as well as it is a little rough. And then the tree that we over here. I'm not a tree expert, but
when I was on the site last time, it definitely it wasn't just like a normal winter. No leaves on the tree. >> It's going to go out very
clarify the English. I have a question about the going back to security lighting on plan 8200 uh on the north facing side against the All is one security light. Are you
confident that that is enough lighting to illuminate that 77 foot wide length of the building on a very limited line of sight area? It should be we could always add more. We were just concerned about finding that area. Good
thing about this location it does have it doesn't in that case have a lot of immediate residential access or like neighbors around it. So, I don't think we're too concerned about light pollution or like spillover. >> Um, the property line is right there. You know, it's like basically 5 ft
behind the building. >> Um, >> but uh we could add another, you know, that is a very long property and there are no uh pole lights on the parking lot side from the adjacent parking lot. Um, we could always add more more lighting
there if you think that'd be helpful. There will be cameras u on those sites as well, but I know cameras are only as good as the people monitoring them. >> Police department, >> which is pretty good in this case. >> Yes.
Um, if I could just ask if question would be to the west side of that building given the size and shape of the >> Yeah, the the north facing side which is really back backs up against the retaining wall.
>> I would propose you split you install two lights. >> Okay. just to increase the the lighting there. >> Yeah, I think that's that's there's also a fence right there too, which you know is not on this property. It's on the adjacent property, but um looks like it
could be you know repaired as well. But I think that would also if we're concerned about light spill over onto that that fence, our neighbor's fence would would block that. >> Yeah. Can you address how water and sanary sewer provision employment site?
>> We are not proposing any changes to it. Um it's suggesting >> that is a very good question. We do not have a civil engineer on the property or on the project. But um the as far as you know I can speak to the sanitary uh all we're doing on the
sanitary side is uh reconfiguring the bathroom that's there now is not handicap accessible. So we're basically making you know installing one new handicap accessible restroom and one mop sink. served by a public connection.
>> That is a good question. >> I would have to do some research on unfortunately. I don't know. >> Okay. >> Upgrading to Yes, we would vacant that is a subject that's living that
property. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Can we go back to the parking for a sec? >> Certainly. Um, the handicap is all the way on the opposite end and there's only one customer entrance and exit. So, they're essentially have to go to the
other end of the building to enter. >> That's that the loading area that's >> is that going to interfere with the fence now. >> And is that employee barking? to play to further
the the more I guess say horizontal or parallel parking spaces would be the employee dedicated spaces but there are two between the loading area and the trash enclosure. So we could take those two spaces and um make that one handicap space and then the access aisle
connecting that would be a little closer to the the building entrance. >> Okay. So by taking up those two spots we lose one. Well, then the access aisle on the other side would become a regular break space. Basically, a handicap space as it does two spaces side by side.
>> That that gets even narrower than our 17 foot to the guide rail with the access aisle next to the ADA space. I would just have real concerns about the ability of any kind of larger vehicle to get in and out of that space.
>> True. Um, so if we put a parking space here, the tapers down, somebody backing up, >> right? So, we do we do anticipate, of course, having stop sign right there. And it is a smaller
>> I'm not so much worried about the conflict with the drive. I'm worried about literally getting a car in and out of that space. Typically, you would require 24 feet. We're probably looking at 15. So, we're deficient by quite a lot in that area. >> Yes. >> Yeah.
Well, first start by end up we can certainly reserve it for it. I think it will be comforting to when we get present to minimize traffic and put traffic
together. Yeah, just looking at any other way to configure the parking and unfortunately with how narrow the site is with the existing topography and all that um that's why we basically stuck with the existing layouts.
>> There are There was a >> when you go back to G5 which cannabis establishment site listed exhibit. >> Yes. There appears to be a measurement in the center of that line that I can't read the >> on those land that is microscop um that
was surveyed as 498.03. >> Say that again. >> 498.03. And what relevance does that have in respect to complying with the ordinance in Little Falls?
So because it is a state highway the jurisdiction over how measurements uh are are done along the state highway access management code and that defines
uh in capitalization for policies of uniformity along a highway as well as avoiding erratic development and The appropriate way to measure business
to business for the purpose of checking the property is the center point of the entryway from one business to the center of the entryway other business which when you're dealing
with an across highway business measurement. So that's what >> so how is that measured? I'm sorry. >> The requirement is 500 ft, >> right? And it measures 498.
>> It's from the center point of the entryway from one business to the other. And when we're dealing with businesses on top of radio, get over.
>> So the lot lines are approximately 170 ft apart. >> That's right. Yeah, they are. We saw that measurement. And were it on an ordinary street, a nonstate highway certain
factor for us to obtain from in this case because it is the mirror definition control the measurement of measurement and this was the policy policy behind it
is the state department of transportation needs to make sure that access between businesses on highway and also and also there's a policy to avoid your site development. So for
two competing businesses that are opening up uh near each other one might say right well we will build a long breezeway move our entryway corner most part of our property and by
to not be able to extend our structure into the no go z thereby knocking out but without that pause is quite an erratic development of highway and that was not policy
so in addition to access highway it's also a policy of making sure the u competing businesses aren't erratically developing for strategic Let me ask you a
governing body that adopted the made a determination that imposing the distance separately through similar types of They had in mind they looking at they
put 500 they got a reason to put 500 um send >> right in the same way the governing body although specifically reserve this area
for the B2 area which of course is small for this particular Right. conditions or more specifically set >> right >> in the original version of the ordinance
uh that was written and passed at the same time of course as that 200 foot rule it did not have a maximum number of Now I realized that after our letter of approval was issued about two weeks
later the uh board pass amendments to indicate that no five would be able to apply after allow. So given that amendment, given the size of the zone, it would be an impracticality not
uh businesses that did not on that although because it is a state highway question. I would also say because it is a state highway the appropriate mode of measurement
has been determined by the definition highway. and using the governing loading method is in fact 500 ft or
>> uh I'm a little confused. Uh, are you saying that your grandfather >> are you saying that your grandfather >> saying is that the state gu has governing jurisdiction over
development on this stretch of high and because of that they have determined how to measure conformity with various uh measurements. along the state highway. And in those
definitions, it specifies where to measure to and from >> when looking at the two. >> And this is this is for purposes of of highway access. That's that's the the code section of administrative code you're citing, right? >> Yes.
>> Okay. So, >> but this the state does not state DOT does not exercise zoning jurisdiction along the highway. You're not alleging that that's the case. Okay. So the township zoning ordinance is contrary to this this this measurement perhaps. We don't know because it doesn't actually
tell us how to measure. >> Respectfully deficient and talking about how to measure that violence in the absence of a town regulation saying how to measure i.e. door to door,
center of the lot. In the absence of that, the DOT regulations >> is there a provision in the regulation or case law that spells that out? I mean just as a matter of general judge
prudence it would be said that if the town had an interest in defining the mode of measurement so the plain reading of the tax jurisdiction
>> that's kind of my point yeah >> and I I'm certainly not. >> I I don't I don't think we need to beat this to death. We We all know what the numbers are, >> right? >> It It's important to to note I think we all drive that highway, if not daily,
multiple times. And for all intents and purposes, this is not to be a situation where people are saying, "If I don't have what I need here, I'll just go there." That's a good 30 minute drive. Absolutely no one is doing that. And this is also a section of
purchase online operations on account. So this isn't going to be a a business hopping. They're going to likely have their person and if they're coming to the site at all uh will be going to a particular
site where they get not found. I think it's also important for the board to know and I'll talk about this a little more influencing that by having to in this uh I guess expanded uh location
that amendment that I earlier we keep consumerfriendly pricing so right now we have one business and it is the only business of its find in North Street.
So for all folks here and up will be serviced by that business for competition. And what happens of course when one business control pricing is they control pricing in their not.
So by having another business and this is something operations talk to not only will we have more variety and diversity to offer which drives the price up for reasons but also it keeps the prices
for a little ball and every area and I think that's something that we all res from just basic uh competition and non monopoly fight
does that any business that operates any discussions Sure that's not really important. No, but what was the concern was certainly how many licenses to issue and the place in which to
in this case when we >> imagine right yeah that's the reason number of conditions. >> Sure. >> Say I want to put a flower shop there. I don't think
>> Sure. Of course not. But certainly the town might be involved though get >> but I would say >> no but what I would say well actually that's not >> I I I disagree and I hate to interfere. I'd like to get back uh we're interested
in footprints measurements bulk and area and the price does not concern us. In fact, in our in our training, we were told not to consider pricing or how much it cost to do such a thing. So, can we
move on? >> By saying that my comments were left to the idea of regulation as they were the overall well, but with that whole I guess And that's
a question for Mr. Loro. If um this is obviously under the 500 ft distance given 498, can the other business hold this forward liable? They come at us for something for being, you know, proving this >> and having the business within the
distance of what the township put through as a, you know, under the 500 ft. It would be a situation where anybody feels decision. Are there any questions to the board members?
>> Actually, I have for Mr. Brigly Adora. Is there a number of cannabis establishments that Little Falls allows just in general throughout the town? >> From a licensing perspective,
Mr. She's correct. Mr. Jones has a class five dispensary, retail dispensary license, and this far has obtained a license. My understanding is that that's the total number of
licenses that the governing body has. >> That's correct. >> That they will be. So with that and calling out from his testimony. >> So Mr. Wayne just beginning to operate
So uh for how many years would you say the team has managing operating scale operating short years? >> 20 years. >> Yes. And
through those 20 years approximately how many cannabis retail establishments have been we are about 50 plus dispensaries we have >> so 55
Yeah, we we have we manage corporation manage. So as an overarching uh would you inform the board that the specific SOP envisioned for this particular property in the old Liberty
Travel Building has been uniquely tailored to the size of this. Yes, we based in a square footage of this location um and I don't know her some concerns but due
to the size we didn't we didn't make an SOP like it was going to be 3,000 square foot shop where we need 15 20 15 20 10 employed specifically to our patient Would you say that it's a micro business style operation?
>> Absolutely. >> And by using that term that means a maximum of 10 employees period. Yeah. Not at one time. and explain to the board please. Um the idea I mean obviously there will be an EV and
flow but how many employees between what and what will be on site at first. So just due to trade secrets as well and such I just kind of keep but I have no problem answering I got tra
give or take three employees at one time um split two different shifts give or take We have it as opening up at 6 and I want to say
yes >> that was supposed to be reserved for veterans. >> Is that is that like nationwide? Because I hear that from time to time that it's open from 6:00 a.m. to 9 or whatever for veterans. >> Yeah. >> Industry standard. Sorry, I'm a little
harder hearing. >> You're not alone. >> Why um open road? >> Um well, due to the flow and the uh the traffic, I guess that we just put that in there. It doesn't have to
>> it also ensures additional patients receive the first fruit. though they're not coming later in the day. >> Can can I ask one question? Okay. I know you like us to listen to
the end. Anyway, the question is this. How do I gain access to the suspension? Is it by appointment? Can people simply come? Uh again, there's going to be more incentives for
um an online. So we're pitching more so that nobody can slow. >> Think of it like pizza parlor. If you could go pizza or you could have if you if
Domino's is going to bring you your pizza, would any of you have to go and get it yourself. >> But if I were to go, would I need an appointment? >> I don't know that. No, he's we don't have don't have
but I feel like again it guarantees them their >> does the board um have a concept of preordering structure It's within the regulations so we're not giving uh secret but uh a pre-order
how you define >> you made as far as >> I mean I know delivery >> uh >> pre-order >> meaning online you go online pre-order it >> so you go online you pre-order it and
then it would be set out for deliver >> or pick up depending on the incentive to get. >> All right. So, so there isn't a control. So, what if 10 people arrive at the same time? Where are we going to put them? >> So,
at the same time there is division work. Uh but what I would say is that that would be unusual given the structure of the incentives specific and that's what I said what I meant when I said when I
elicited the testimony that there isific intentionally to to serve this and the surrounding area through the use of what I call in the application a very low cost. >> Yeah and that is something that is
from what is in the area but from you saying the robust delivery is all the that I sat this place my understanding you're not allowed to deliver
I home you're not allowed to deliver at all >> but it's it's in the regulation so class five retail licenses uh do not need to
the special delivery you are allowed to deliver. So that is in the actual act there's a specific regulation for and we built our uh SOP that of course I
won't go into but we built it along a parallel structure following that that exact door that's delivered to your home. There are a lot of regulations to make sure that the person that they are
saying simply because they could deliver someone else's >> door like that they could go to said location but you are allowed to deliver your phone just like Chinese
And how is payment made when you do a delivery? >> How is I'm sorry. >> How is payment? >> Payment is already made on >> Okay. >> Right. >> Okay. I didn't know you were allowed to use credit cards for the purchase. You
can >> Okay. >> Yeah. But um I think that might be a little bit tricky. >> I mean I mean it catch up but there are there >> Yeah. Okay.
Thank you. >> So who is making the actual delivery a vehicle from this location? >> Right. So there would be it would be a deliverable let's say there are employers employees of ROS
that are making the disperses in unmarked vehicles uh security boxes. >> So it's not their personal vehicle. >> So does that take away another parking spot? >> No.
I like >> see this is again there's a specific logistics to they're not even >> they won't be >> but they won't be >> that's part of the 10 points of fire.
So that means >> no relation check >> right in the same way as buying it. So just that someone can go in the store and then bring it home just like in the same way perhaps the delivery is
even more stringent the delivery when they go home when someone comes to the store they need to emergency but when they go home we don't know who we don't know if they're going we don't know if they're going to we don't know if
they're going the opposite It's very important. An employee actually goes to the hall and knows the regulations that are already showing because we know we know who they are. We
know that they are So given all that the delivery car is are they allowed to do multiple deliveries or do they have to make separate trips each time? trying to gauge the frequency of that particular Ah
>> Will will you be utilizing the man trap for loading and unloading of your delivery? >> I for the the employees picking up and moving their >> Yeah. Your delivery person. >> Yeah. >> So they'll be utilizing >> what's your average um what's your
average delivery across your propert? Well, I don't think you know that yet, >> right? I mean, I'm not open. I don't know if I could answer any other. So you can't give an estimate for how much hypothetically you think might be
at this particular site. You can't answer that question. weekend as a >> I mean I ideally >> well I mean it's not an operating site yet so we don't know how many I think it's the same question >> ideally
that's intentional that's not the the plan is for safety performance for secured in the location secured full. Um we've touched on a little bit about the
security camera. Uh we are planning on having little police department have one or two guards on location at location. Um it's okay,
>> right? Um yeah, as far as lighting goes, making sure that everything's well lit at night. Security gate was uh put in place with closed so no one's close to the
building after hours. Um we also have cameras that were going to be in the park. I don't know where we still the police man that were outside.
>> There was a question about us having a police statewide that are you know already >> right already in 2026 I'm thinking it's
already up sales 16% 17% at this time last year which earns um number >> $17,000 >> no uh It's a 17% a but this time in 2025
it was billion a billion dollars in sales and right now already it's already 17% higher than what it was at that. So guess just to say that it's still growing.
Is there a figure um compared to the sale for 2020 store where 2025 as far as measurable growth? >> 17. >> Could you tell us how many op uh
dispensaries you RAZ operates in New Jersey and which is the closest one? >> Oh, okay. >> I'm sorry. I didn't hear them. >> None. >> So Ros is uh helping management
operations of >> Oh, I see. So he's he's an outside Met Mr. White. The owners above are in the pharmaceutical industry for
I'm not exactly aware if they have them in New Jersey, but I'm not going to be able to specific on that. But um in New Jersey, >> so how many facilities do you manage in the state of New Jersey and which is the closest one?
for my I don't know what my langu >> I know there is one within I would say 10 miles >> about 10 to 12 miles >> okay >> never had any problem as far as
regulation >> actually as will all of your have you ever had any problem with >> fine >> so So, Mr. White, you don't own Raz. You're just managing that.
>> Did I say that correctly? >> Yes. >> And so, so when you said there's 50 stores, that's >> not That's what I'm saying. You your company, I'm guessing >> Walgreens, right? Manag >> manages 50 stores. This would be the
first one in New Jersey. Well, no. >> It would be not the first company that >> have you disclose the owners of this ro or >> it was on the the original application.
>> It was okay. It's also fully within the state application of licensed operating problem and I I I think it would be appropriate when you say that that is
very much like you have medicine you go you get it >> that is the style the amount and that This is going to hang out.
Hang out. You come in, you get you pick up your CVS order >> to the extent that people are leaving. >> Very good. It's 9:44. >> Well, you're going to be late.
uh is in writing that would help answer any questions that might given the hourly answer and if you can't now I would certainly
be happy to enter any questions. >> Are there any questions? continue. condition issue that are not compar so >> a A is not A is not met. Um,
let's uh E E is not met. >> I'm sorry, Mr. Barry. That's A. >> A as an apple. E as in Edward. >> Yeah. All of the minimum set
there had been an updated drawing to talk about the landscaping and that's something that Mr. are about our plans do come into so I would say other than the distance requirement which is uh pre-existing
all of that landscaping >> it can't possibly you have a driveway between the building and the highway >> yes I >> so do you you physically cannot meet that condition no matter what you do except redesign the entire site >> I suppose I'm I'm phrasing it roughly it
was addressed as Uh, but it would still of course technically >> right >> that's >> that's a better better way to phrase it. >> A and E >> E which um
>> continue >> is the location of the parking which we've we've been over. Um then next is well M about the location of deliveries. Um, it's the side of the building I I I
would maintain is is where the access point is. We've heard the commentary about the fencing and and security and so forth. And then lastly would be the um the distance requirement >> Q. Correct.
>> Mr. planner. Um given the fact that the door to the mrap through which the employees would be going to load uh is in fact on the rear of the new structure is there
I suppose while that is on the side while >> sure you're you're offering ing planning justification and testimony now not avoiding the fact that you need the relief. It's the side of the building. There's there's absolutely no question
that that's the side of the building. >> Okay. Um and then Q is the uh is the distance between we talked about that depending on how you measure it. There are three different numbers potentially, but none of them are 500 ft.
And then for the record, there's also a a D1 use variance in consideration which deals with the three separate principal uses on the property, >> right? >> And has to consider the suitability of the site for all three of those uses to coexist. Well, she she hasn't addressed the
positive or negative. Unless I missed it. >> No, no. I I was going to uh ask much reserve on that. >> Well, it shouldn't take you 10 minutes. >> I'm Italian.
Just about anything takes 10 minutes, but I'll but I'll be I I I think overall we have a lot of positives here. Granted, we have uh some issues with regards to parking that are indeed mitigated by the general. Again, while
we have not been able to really get the pretty operating procedure, the overarching goal is to have less if any people inside this building and have
sales. That is the vision. different is not important to tell. So with that said, uh this is a SOP that is built for this
property. Uh it is well suited because intentionally well suited. it was built that way certainly is well suited uh for the town as well and anyone will get into this
too much but as far as being positive certainly there is nothing else going to bring revenue to not only have 2% of the service
but the service which is quite given the fact that this more than mostly stopped where it's beenated that people uh we also have a little falls first uh
hiring feature. We have a little fall discount feature. Uh we have uh lost in that way again health competition uh if this is precluded your resident as well
as residents will be subjected to so that's not good for any uh not only has the prices go up and down but statistically speaking but the lower skews that are offered these customers the
larger their factory. So that said, the amount of revenue that comes down not only will be increased by the existence but also by the existence of diversity products. Right now the products across
the street are made by and that's one company only one companies uh our company being different or your company being will have uh a pick from a number of top
selling um brands not just the exempt Uh so that says we all intend to be good neighbors and stewards of the property. It is our intention to use what is necessary by it.
uh as you saw with the monument sign if you want to use that for traffic saf and to do uh a maximization of this property by virtue of a
and uh and that I would say outweighs the negative which are we may have to uh bring up the level of a corner parking space before that.
We may have to have certain incentives to escape out of time. We have a police officer on scene at all times just in case uh there you know is any need to have an author
either address or to disade any involve wrong. So we have those down. Uh certainly there's a lot of pretty specific issues that I would submit uh don't necessarily need
to release but I did not just in case the board feels agree with somebody and that said in accordance with Westwood certainly which is a lower standard of
41 even I would say that we have reestablish good out the bad and that would indeed be tailor made and benefit. >> Oh,
my plan. >> Any questions for the board? >> I'm sorry. Are you are you breasting? Are you finished? >> My mention that the lead is contemplated to be 20 or 40 years long. So we do intend here. We don't intend to be a
flash. We intend to integrate regular. >> Are you resting now? >> Yeah. >> You did. You did. And there there are many Italians in this town, so we understand. >> Thank you. >> I of course am not, but that's
um any questions to the board? >> May I have a motion to open up the meeting to the >> public? Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> All those opposed? Motion is uh I'm sorry. meeting is open
to the public and you know the rules, Mr. Veric. >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Members of the board know it's uh late and I'll be brief. Um as you may know, I represent uh Tri County Lexus U Group. They're the owner of 700 Route
46. They own the property next door. They help to acquire the property several years ago behind this site. Um so they're very familiar with the site. are very familiar with the limitations and the problems with this site. And um one thing this site can't handle is a
robust delivery system. This is a site that is uh perched on top of a cliff. Uh many of us remember Liberty Travel. They were there for over 45 years. Remember Ivy Cat Smith? She had two part-time employees. Uh great lady, but there was very limited activity. there was a
travel agency. It was never ever anticipated to be a use like this. Now I'm hearing not only delivery, I'm hearing people making appointments. I'm hearing people coming to the site and what happened now delivery uh as well, which I didn't understand. And what
happens is the detriment to someone like uh Shazuli Auto Group is where do people park? They're going to want to go to this site. They're going to see the site, they're going to access the site, and they're going to park at Shazuli's property. And that's not fair to someone who is a taxpayer in the town who has a
permitted use in the town to have to take an issue because this site cannot handle this. You know, their very own architect said, and I'm quoting him here, that the access of this site is tricky. So, a tricky access point and
backing up to a 17 foot backup where you need 24 feet on top of a cliff like, this is a sample. This is not a site that can handle this type of intense use. Uh we're looking at also the distance between the two locations. We
know how to measure feet in Little Falls. We look at this all the time. How many feet is this from the backyard in the R1A zone? How many feet is this in the B1 zone to a neighboring property? How many feet is this to a church? And we do it lot by lot. So the the number
in my estimation is 107, not 498. And I don't think we do it doortodoor. And I don't think that the state has any jurisdiction here whatsoever. This is a little false issue. It's a little false ordinance. If Little Falls wanted to when they were putting this ordinance together, they could they had the
ability to say that we this is how we're going to define it. Short of that, it's locked a lot just like we have on our own streets, just like we have in uh in every zone in this town. So I think you when looking at this, you know, we've looked at public safety and
this is going to create a public safety issue. Uh the Shaz are very concerned about this property going in. We see it in other towns. We don't have to look too far to see the amount of activity and what happens to a site that is inadequately parked and doesn't have
good access, let alone one that requires a D1 use variant based on the fact that we have three uses here. How that got approved, you know, going back to the 1950s, I don't know, but it's there. And I think it's this board's responsibility to make sure that whatever goes in there
has a particularly good use. Now, if this were just a wholesale only cannabis operation that didn't have any retail aspect to it, didn't have deliveries, didn't have that, that may be something that could be worth considering. But the problem is if we have if this is
permitted by this board, the detriment is not only going to be Shazul, it's going to be the entire community. And I urge the board to vote no application. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Have you heard? >> You certainly may. think what I would
say and I say this absolutely more respectfully to our neighbor again it is our intention to respectful of our neighbors and have the best so first of all I would say to mitigate
any concern that school we may have we will certainly make security aware of their concerns about parking and if anyone parks in any place they're not supposed to security in um simply not let the community. In other words, there
will be efforts made to mitigate against. Certainly, that is something that the units belong sites and as they are moving properly both in and outside of building, they
will be needed to additional markings in the parking sign. will add the safety of the property and the lessening the risk that somebody will car what I'll also say is while I think
uh I have to say that the vision is so the vision is to have as uh missaldo had asked well will the delivery vehicle be arked and stored on the site well they won't this is not going to be a situation
where we have vast amounts of in and out. We'll be having minimized delivery fillups in that man and then out on the island delivery of largely 3D
item. Again, I know that it must be hard to conceive because we haven't been able to put the complete SOP for it, but I have so that UCR vision which is much less
than a CVS pharmacy pre-order lar to B and then sent on. So this idea that the the the parking lot simply can't handle it. Our business was built specifically for
make sure that the last people that want any kind of issue is working. We want to be here for 40 years. that at least we intend to be here a long time and a part of being here a long time is making sure that we
get along making sure that it's safe and uh we need so concern not only have we taken efforts to mitigate that long before even uh signing the lease property by management
and size to scale as far as foot traffic and then built to So I respect them and I thank you. >> And does that conclude your presentation? >> Thank you,
Mr. Brigadier. Okay. Then Rich, there there are um bulk variants requested for the signage as as to the um roof sign or or sign projecting above the the roof line of the building and the freestanding pylon
sign would both be bulk variances as part of the application. This is a Any other comments, Mr. Kovalard? >> Thank you. Any other comments from the board? For sake of discussion, it's a very
difficult property to work with period. No matter who is operating a business out of there, a lot dimensions are tight. Traffic circulation is difficult. does not comply with Little Falls ordinance number 1516, distance 500 ft
to a similar establishment. Um, anyone have any comments? May I have a motion? You want me to make some motion? Make I'll make the motion that the board not approve the application as presented
tonight. >> No sir. >> I don't know. >> Second >> discussion. While I think the application is uh has a lot of merit, I believe the location has fatal flaws both as described by the
chairman with the site plan, but most importantly its proximity to the uh other licensed establishment in in Little Falls. Uh I just can't get past that obstacle. So I I would vote no.
>> Any other discussion? I think that there's just too many unanswered variables that don't make me comfortable in voting. >> Yes. Valerie, please call the board.
>> Seven. >> Vice Chairman Barry. >> No. >> Mr. Kar. >> Pardon me. The the motion was to not vote for this application. >> The motion is to deny. So if you support the motion to deny, you vote yes.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Thank you for the clarification. I I vote yes to deny. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Luke Deiano. >> Yes. >> Miss Galdo, >> yes. >> Mr. Post,
>> yes. >> Dr. Aby, >> yes. Chairman Bill passes yes. The application is denied. Moving on to other business under old business.
We have a request and sorry no suit tonight. Mr. Uh, John Venet, on behalf of Lawrence Kramer and Katherine Brown, uh, we're respectfully requesting an extension of time to file uh, the subdivision deed. U, as the board knows, we have 190 days
from the date of the approval of resolution to file the subdivision deed. Uh, when we were going through the details, it's a nearly 5 acre property between Chilton Drive and Inwood. Um, it requires some additional surveying that took additional time. We're still working through the um subdivision with
the county because of that. Uh not not changing anything at all with the application. We believe that we'll be able to get this we believe we'll be able to get this done with if uh less than six months, but we're respectfully asking for a six-month extension to file the
subdivision. >> Do we need a motion, Mr. Counselor? Can we >> That's more than enough. Thank >> you need a motion. >> Need a motion. >> May I have a motion to approve for six months extension or site fan filing?
>> So move. >> Second. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I post. >> Thank you. Motion for a journment.