Welcome everybody uh to the September 24th board of health meeting for the town of Littleton, Massachusetts. This evening we have Kevin Davis as chair, Dan Kaine, and Kevin Baker members at large. We have Francis as our director
of health and Heidi as our admin. Thank you so much. Uh we have a great evening of items to discuss. So our first thing at 7:00 is a public hearing for 30 Dalia Drive.
All right. And 30 Dalia Drive. Who is the people that we need? Looks like we need Kirk. I want to promote him as panelist. And do we need anybody else that's in the audience? If so, just raise your hand
and we will promote you as well. >> Good evening. This is Kirk Fitzpatrick with Civil Solutions and I'm here in behalf of Vern and Linda um Harwell for their property at 30 Dalia Drive. I'd be happy to share the plan.
>> I would really appreciate that. Thank you so much. So, basically what we have proposed before you is a septic system upgrade for the existing three-bedroom house. Um, it's currently served by a thousandgalon tank kind of hovering over
and off of Dalia Drive and that feeds a couple of leech trenches in the rear yard or I guess it's the sideyard on Dalia. Um, it failed the Title 5 inspection and we actually clipped a corner of the leech field during uh our soils testing and it it definitely has
failed. Uh, I think it's probably in the groundwater and it's completely saturated. Uh, so we continued on did two test holes, test holes one and test hole two where we had uh some top and subs soil
over a sandy lom. We had a seasonal high water table at 32 in in test hole A and 36 in in test hole 2. And we ran a percolation test and that actually ran at 25 minutes an inch. Uh we did have some observed groundwater at 68 in and
72 in but it was uh dry enough to be able to run the percolation test. So basically what we have proposed is to come out to a new 1500galon two compartment septic tank that's going to feed to a 1000gallon pump chamber and that's going to pump the liquid up to a
leech field composed of the presban viruseptic that's 16 1/2 ft wide by 32 ft long. So the system is going to be elevated. Um so it's got some fill associated with it but we can maintain the 10t offset to the property lines.
Um, we tried to push it away from the house a little bit so we're not impacting drainage towards the house. This gravel parking area has a little uh wood retaining wall around three sides. So, the finish grade over the system actually blends in quite nicely with that gravel parking area. So, with that
being said, we're asking for a reduction in the groundwater offset from 4T to 2 ft with the use of the Presboseptic. And I'd be happy to answer any questions the board might have. Francis, why don't you go ahead and uh present some of your notes?
>> Uh, sure. And Kirk, this was the one where it was mostly fill in the back of the yard. >> Yeah. So, this one had uh test hole A was actually original. We had 22 in of top soil and then 36 in of uh of subs soil and then it changed to a sandy lom.
And then test hole two, um, we kind of hit, I don't know if I'd call it a garbage dump, but there was some debris buried for about three feet and then we hit the old layer of subs soil below that down to 48 in and then it changed to the sandy loom. Um, so that that the
area of excavation when they do the system was a little bit bigger um in the vicinity of test I should deeper I should say. >> Um, yeah. So all three lots tonight for the hearings are fairly similar issues. Um it's a tight lot. Um I think what he
has proposed is appropriate for the situation. I think if if we raing for the soil system greater than 2 ft of groundwater separation likely I think it would need fill within
the 10 ft of the property line. Is that probably correct Kirk? >> That is correct. If we elevated the system any further, we'd be less than 10 ft of the property line towards the rear. Um, and I also think you'd start to impact the grading going towards the house. So, the the the reduction in
using the twoft offset with the presby makes it actually blend in fairly well. It's still going to be a little bit of a bump, but it's uh the grade actually goes up as you go up your drive. Um, so it'll blend in fairly well on the high side. It'll only really look like a bump on the back.
Thank you. >> Okay. Uh why don't we go to uh Mr. Banker? You have any questions? >> Uh I only had one question, but I think I answered it. I was wondering if they did any testing on the uh the Grove Road uh side of the lot, but I see the water
line comes in there, so that would impede uh putting the system over there. Um but beyond that, uh I think they did the best job fitting it in. uh where they could with as little as variance as possible. So, good job. Thanks.
>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Kane, >> uh I don't have any questions actually. I'm I'm good. Thank you. >> And the chair has no questions either. I don't see any other way to really do
this. So um okay there we have three attendees in the audience. Uh does anybody have any questions or comments from the audience to raise your hand? We'll add you to the panel to speak. If not
okay um I need a motion. Mr. Baker. >> I would like to make a motion to approve approve the plan as presented and allow for reduction in the groundwater offset from 4T to 2 feet with the use of the
Presbyian viral septic leeching system. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Second from Mr. Kaine. I'll do a roll call vote. Mr. Baker. >> Kevin Baker votes yes. >> Mr. Kaine. >> Mr. Kane votes yes.
>> And Mr. Davis votes yes. Okay. Well, >> we've got 3 minutes until the 710 hearing. Uh so we're going to have to wait on that a little bit. Um why don't we cover
any administrative matters? How about the meeting minute approval? I think we can do that in 3 minutes hearing. No objections. Does anybody have any comments on the meeting minutes? I thought the meeting minutes actually
looked really nice. Whoever did those phenomenal job is good. I'll make a motion that we accept the minutes for August 27th, 2025 as presented.
>> I do I have a second. >> I'll second that. >> Awesome. Mr. Kaine, roll call vote. Mr. Kaine. >> Kane votes yes. >> Mr. Baker. >> Kevin Baker votes yes.
>> And the chair Kevin Davis votes yes. Excellent. We are done with that. That took a whopping minute and a half. We are flying along. Okay, Francis, do you have any other administrative things that we want to talk about till we get to 710, which is 2 minutes away?
>> Yeah, sure. Um, so just some quick updates. We have our flu and COVID clinic on Monday. We are completely full right now for signups. >> Um, we're anticipating maybe about 25 extra vaccines needed for
walk-ins right now. Um, so we're planning on doing the same numbers as last year, which we did about 150. Um, >> that's amazing. >> So, we hope to make the same. Um, a lot of the seniors were excited that we're having it at this the new senior center building, so that also helped as well.
And they put it in their senior newsletter, so we got a lot of signups right away. >> Beautiful. Next year we might consider maybe just doing a seniors only clinic there um just to kind of limit it more uh because that seemed to get the most
appreciation. We do have people signing up for the second clinic which is all ages on the 21st of October. It's about half full right now. Um so it might be a little less than the 150 but I think we're still going to have a good showing.
Is there an appetite if we have a good showing at that one maybe to do one in the month of November? >> We could um we just have to guarantee n numbers at that point and it gets a little tighter once you get into November cuz people who vaccinate early for the holidays and such after that
they don't really consider it that late into the season but if we can find um enough push for it we can definitely have one. It's a question of what location we have it at. Um the pharmacy we work at is pretty flexible and everything.
>> Beautiful. Air family pharmacy. >> Yes. >> Oh, they're amazing people. >> Yes. Very easy to work with. Um it's just been a good experience overall. >> Perfect. >> All right. Well, it is 7:10.
>> Are we finished with that topic real quick? I didn't mean to cut you off, Francis. >> Uh I can give you some more stuff after the hearings or in between and see how we went. Yeah. >> Perfect. All right, let's do that. Um, it is 7:10 when we uh continue our
public or start our public hearing for 34 Baldwin Hill Road, which has a variance request for BO board of health regulation 27 and the groundwater offset reduction. And it looks like it's Kirk Fitzpatrick presenting again.
It's the Kirk show tonight. >> Good evening again. This is Kirk Fitzpatrick with Civil Solutions and I'm here in behalf of 34 Baldwin Hill Road. Be happy to share the plan. All >> righty. I would love that. Thank you so much. >> And that's not the right plan.
>> Oh, we don't see anything yet. There we go. >> Nope. That's the last one. >> There we go. >> There we go. Beautiful. So, basically what we have proposed before you is a septic system upgrade
for the existing three-bedroom dwelling. Again, it's a small lot. It's 10,430 square ft. Um, it's currently served by a small tank where I'm hovering here. And then that feeds a leech field, a long narrow leech field across the backyard. So, we did two test holes and
ran a perk test. Uh, so the two test holes, let me zoom in here. So test hole one we had uh 48 in of fill and then changed to a lomy sand with a seasonal high water table of 42 in. Test hole two we had 42 in of fill with the
seasonal high water table right at the change at 42 and also changed to a sandal loom and we're able to run the percolation test. Both test holes were dry and we got a percolation rate of 6 minutes per inch. So what we're proposing is to come out
to a new 1500gallon two compartment septic tank which will flow to 1,00gallon pump chamber and pump the liquid up to the leech field which is proposed to be a presbian viral septic that's 10 1/2 ft wide by 42 ft long.
So the backyard presently slopes it goes up to 101 here in the corner then slopes down to 96 towards the neighbor's property. um the back of the foundation which we call elevation 100. Um so it's actually
elevated a little bit but this section which is kind of a it's a doorway to the basement more or less is actually sitting on the ground. So you can't change the grade here in front of this this part of the structure. So that that's at like 97 and a half.
So we're proposing to use the Presby um with a reduced groundwater offset. So the bottom of the system be at 97. So that would be the breakout grading and then the finish grade over the top of it would be 995. So it is still lower than the top of the foundation, but it allows
us to blend it in and not impact uh that back section of the house and also grade off towards the towards the neighboring lot line. But the fill is maintained more than 5t from the lot line. I'd be happy to answer any questions the
board might have. This property serviced by Town Water, which comes in the right front corner of the property. >> Okay, Francis, why don't you go ahead and give a a lovely summary. >> Uh, so like Kurt said, it's a very tight lot, so there's very limited area to be
able to site the system. Um this kind of seems like the best solution to um allow it to meet minimum setbacks essentially from the foundation of the property line. Um increasing from 2 to 3 ft would require additional fill within the property line. It might have to go
past the property line unless they had to do a retaining wall. Um so it seems like a reasonable solution. It is um a little elevation difference but I don't think runoff will be an issue.
No, all all the runoff will continue in the same pattern that it currently does. The backyard kind of drains from the right to the left and then around the house and actually towards the neighbor's property a little bit. I tried to situate the leech field. It's It might look funny that it's at a little bit of an angle, but it runs
parallel with the contour 98 to try to keep it as low as possible and impact the back of the house as little as possible. Okay. Uh, anything else, Francis? >> Uh, nope. >> Mr. Baker, do you have any comments?
>> I have no questions or comments. No. >> Okay. Mr. Chain, do you have any comments? >> Uh, no. I'm my only concern obviously be the runoff, but yeah, it looks like the it's in line with where it was running off anyway. Is that a fence or stone
wall at the very back of the property line? There is a stone wall that runs across the back of the property line and then this the squiggly line is the edge of the brush line. There's a larger tree here and then there's actually two very large maple trees in the front in the
sideyard and then another one in the front yard. And then this this is a garden in the neighbor's yard. >> Um, no, I don't think I have any other questions. Thank you, sir. >> You're welcome. >> So, I've got about three questions. Um, distance from the foundation at the
closest point looks like it's more than 10 ft. Is that correct? >> That's correct. So, the tanks are set 10 ft away, which is the minimum. >> And then the leech field, the leech field is 20 at its closest point, which would be right about where I'm hovering. >> Okay. Okay. And did I hear you say that you're 5 ft off the property line in
that corner? >> No, the maintains 10 ft off the property line all the way around. Okay. >> But the the the fill over here on on the side to the left is in excess of 5 ft. >> Okay. All right. And then the final question that I have is that you've got
this ginormous vent pipe that's kind of off on the side. Is that going to be the actual length of the vent pipe? It's right there. This Yeah, it looks >> No, no, no, not that. Not that. If you
go back down to the main drawing, you see there's a black line that goes from the presby over towards the shed. >> See how you have it proposed? >> Yep. So, that this section of piping will all be below grade. The actual pipe sticks up three feet. I stick it off I
tried to put off the back corner of the shed to hide it more than anything to be honest with you. >> Oh, that I'm all for. Well, what I was I was just kind of questioning um the length of that. I'm fine if that's the intent. Okay. >> Yeah. My experience is if I show it next
to the I I give the contractors the option of putting it where they want, but I request that they discuss it with the homeowners, but my experience is if I show it right off the end of the system, that's where it ends up. So, I try to put it where I think it's going to >> be least intrusive to the property. And then this system actually uses the
bypass vent for the highpass that you high vent for the presby. >> Got it. Okay. >> So the presby has differential venting. So the low vent will come off the end of the system and go over behind the shed >> and then it utilizes the uh the high vent will be back through the septic
tank and utilizes the the vent through the building sewer. >> Okay. Okay. Are we showing that? Oh, you said the vent would go back through the septic tank and the bump tank. Correct. >> Okay. All right. Whereas the other one had another pipe. The previous one had a
different piping for the return on the vent which I saw different. Okay. Um does anybody have any follow-up questions on the board? We have one hand raised. Bob, let me uh promote you to the panelists to ask
your question. Bob, you are being promoted right now. Another window should pop up that you'll accept. Bob, you have been promoted to the panelists. Please state your name and address for the record.
Bob, you're still on mute. >> Okay. Can you hear me now? >> We can hear you now. So, why don't you go ahead and state your name and address for the record, please, sir? >> Sure. Bob Tabro, 11 Paula Beth Street. And my only concern is as a contiguous
neighbor uh to the back um I heard someone mention earlier that there might be runoff. Should I have any concern about any runoff coming through the back into my property? >> The answer to that would be no. The uh
the grade actually continues up to the stone wall. So, you're really not going to get any runoff in that d that direction. And then the grade actually rises up towards as it goes from left to right or toward the south, the grade actually comes up as you go across the back of the lot.
So, no, you should not have any increased runoff towards your property. >> Okay, that was my only concern. >> Awesome. Thank you so much. Any other concerns, Bob? >> No, I'm all set. >> Awesome.
I'm going to change role back to attendee. Okay. Um, so all right. Uh, hearing no other questions and no other questions in the audience. Okay. I would like a motion, Mr. Baker.
>> I would like to make a motion. >> That Let's go. Oh, wait. One second. >> Mr. Kane. >> Yeah, Mr. Kane. >> Oh, sorry. We had a hand in the audience. You have a hand. >> Oh, we do. We do. One second. Promote them to the panelists. >> Mr. Kurt Kramer. Thank you, Dan, for
that. Almost missed them. Kurt, go ahead and unmute yourself and then state your name and address for the record, please. Kirk, go ahead and state your name and address for the record, please.
>> Make sure I got this all set up. Y I think I'm on the air now. >> You are. >> Okay. Yeah, it is. Uh Kurt Kramer. We are at 32 Baldwin Hill next door. So, we will be to the left of this property facing the house. >> Okay.
>> Um the the only question really just comes up since we're down, you know, we're down property of that for runoff. We were we just had concerns of we we don't have a retaining wall. We don't have a stone wall or anything of
that nature. So, our only concerns were, are we going to be impacted in any way from that point? I >> I'd be happy to answer that. So, there should not be any increased runoff coming off of this system. So, when it's
all said and done, it's going to be landscaped with grass. So, currently, the groundwater or the the rainfall or runoff in the backyard comes around the house and actually goes towards your property. In any case, um and and that's the way that the the flow
will continue to uh to come across the property. And then along the lot line, it actually drops from about 97 and a half towards the at the back where the stone wall is and then drops down to 96 and it continues out towards the street. So the
natural path of flow for the runoff is going to come off that system and go down towards the street as it does now. >> Okay. I understand. Um the only other concern I just just from being you know the the
uninformed neighbor uh excess for construction into the yard. There is that large maple tree that's on the side of the house. There isn't much space between our property and the existing property between the house and the tree. it would
I we're just thinking that there'd be a lot of access coming across our property to perform the construction and we were just concerned about that too. >> So to to answer that, they will not be
allowed to go on your property to access the backyard for this. So if if they have to trim a couple branches on those large maples, that's what they'll have to do to get in, but they will not access the backyard through your property. >> Completely understood. And I I mean it
it's not it's not like a uh I don't know what the word would be for it. I Yeah, like an impact. We were just curious to find out what the access would be, you know, if they needed to go that direction to get into the backyard
cuz they're both tight yards. I mean, even even if there was act if if we needed to do this project in our backyard next door here, it would be the same effect. Both sides of the house, you you you'd never get to work back
there. So, I mean, that's a concern to us in, you know, in the future if we ever needed to do something, but that's something that we'd have to take on. But I that definitely answered the all the questions that I could think of. So that's perfect.
>> Okay. Thank you so much, sir. I'll move you back as an attendee. All right. Good. I Dan, that was amazing that you got that cuz I didn't see that at all.
Um, all right. Uh, do I have a motion? I don't think we got the motion. Maybe we did. No, I didn't think so. So, >> yeah. >> Okay. So, it's uh a motion, please. Someone, anyone? >> I'd like to make a motion. >> Please do. >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the
plan as presented and allow for a reduction in the groundwater offset from 4T to 2 feet with the use of the Presby Enviric uh and to allow a variance um to regulation 27 to allow fill required to meet minimum breakout grading
requirements within 10 ft of a property line. Second. >> I have a motion. And now I have a second. Let's do a roll call vote. Mr. Kaine. Mr. >> Kane, vote yes. >> Mr. Baker. >> Kevin Baker votes yes.
>> And the chair, Kevin Davis, votes yes. Thank you so much. So moved. Uh, our next public hearing is at 7:20 and it is 7:26. So, we will start our public hearing for 38 George Street,
which is going to uh require a variance request for the board of health regulation 27, brownwater offset reduction. >> I believe it's the Kirk uh Kirk show again. >> So, uh Kirk, if you wouldn't mind sharing the plan.
>> Yep. I'm Kirk Fitzpatrick with Civil Solutions. I'm here in behalf of 38 George Street. So basically >> Okay, one second. Francis, did you have something you wanted to chat about? >> So I think that he's applying for both
in this situation. The regulation 27 for the fill and then approval for the um twoft reduction. >> Okay, great. >> Why don't you go ahead and why don't we go ahead and present and could you zoom in a little bit into that? So um
eyeballs actually there we go. Perfect. So, much like the last one, it's a proposed upgrade for the existing three-bedroom house that's being sold. The failed Title 5 inspection right now. It's actually got a small tank underneath the porch behind the house, and they think there's some type of a
leeching structure, a leeching field off the left rear corner of the house. So we went over to the left side of that conducted two test holes, test holes one and two and perk test A
where we had test hole one had 12 in of fill some old subs soil and then changed to a sandy lom with the seasonal high water table at 32 in. Then the second test hole, we had 22 inches of fill, an old layer of subs soil, and then
changed to a sandal that had a seasonal high water table at 42 in. Both test holes were dry, so we were able to run the perk test, and that ran at 10 minutes an inch. What we're proposing to do is actually, so this house has plumbing in in the
lower level. So, we're going to come out and put a clean out in a two-ft radius sweep and get the tank away from underneath the structure. So, we're going to put a new 1500gallon two compartment tank that's going to flow to a,00gallon pump
chamber, which is going to pump the liquid up to a system composed of the Presbyian Varoseptic that's 10 1/2 ft wide by 42 ft long. So, test one, the just the grade of the land, there's kind of a low spot here in the corner. Uh they used to have an
above ground pool there and I think they excavated out some material. Um so that test hole is lower than this one. So we're the system is going to be flat but it it blends in fairly well. The finish grade over the top of it is going to be elevation 98. The grade at the house
there now is about 97 12. So it's not going to come up too too much, but it does have fill within 10 ft of the property line. So this out the contour 97 and it will wrap around the perimeter of the system and then the finished grade over the top of it will be 98. So
George Street is out in the front and then actually Hill Place is a paper street um that runs down the sideline. So they actually where it's a paper street I think they legally have rights to the center line of Hill Place but the the property line
is shown here as the darker line and then the curved radius in the front for the old street right away. But their yard, if you were out there, it looks like their yard goes to the fence line. There's a stone wall in the back that runs on top of the lot line, but then there's a fence set in further. I think this fence was probably put in when they
had the above ground pool. So, we're requesting for a reduction in the groundwater offset from 4T to 2 ft with the use of the presby. This allows it to blend in with the property. If we didn't use the twoft offset, this would need retaining walls both along the back and
down the side. And then we're asking for fill within uh 10 ft of our property line. So it's about 5 ft off the back. The the toe of the slope will be about 5 ft off the back inside the fence line and then it's only a couple feet off the sideline, but again that's a paper street where Hill place is. Um there's
actually a the fence line is about 8 ft further over and then there's kind of there's a walking path that connects George Street with the end of Hill Place. The Hill Place right now is currently a dead end that the pavement ends right behind this house.
The house is served by town water and then it's also served by natural gas. The driveways in the front left corner and uh I'd be happy to answer any questions the board might have. >> Francis, why don't you go ahead and >> just like the last property? Um it's a
very tight lot. um tighter in this lot. Um my only question was it would it actually require a retaining wall on the side if it was 3 ft instead of 2 ft? Um and Kurt answered that question. So um I
don't really have any other notes. Um the sweep was a good idea coming out of the building. Um pretty straightforward from our standpoint. Okay, >> go to our board panels. Uh, Mr. Baker,
any questions? >> No questions. >> Okay, Mr. Kane, any questions? >> No, no questions. It's a tight lot. I don't have any questions. >> I'm going to also um say I'm really glad
and happy that you have it within the property lines. um paper streets kind of get ugly and the fact that there's a construction street behind it. Um it's still within the subdivision plan. Um I ran into when I had property when I owned a house in Wilmington, it was one
paper street after another. It was very challenging in Wilmington to understand the property, the paper street because unless it's been abandoned, there's it's still a possibility within the subdivision lot. But I'm glad you have it within the contained lot. So that's all good. >> Thank you.
Um, okay. Does the board have any other questions or comments? Okay. Then can I have a motion, please? >> Mr. Okay. >> I'll make a motion that we approve um the reduction in groundwater offset from
4T to 2 ft using the presby and viral septic bleaching system and granav variance to board of health rag number 27 to allow fill within 10 ft of the property line for 38 George Street.
>> Second that is amazing. Kevin Baker seconded. That is awesome. So roll call vote. Uh Mr. Mr. Baker. >> Kevin Baker votes yes. >> Mr. Kaine >> Mr. Kane votes yes >> and the chair Kevin Davis votes yes.
Congratulations Kirk. You got the trifecta. >> Well, thank you very much and have a good night. >> Thank you so much. I appreciate the uh professionalism. So, thank you so much. >> You're welcome. I appreciate it, too. Good night. >> Good night. Also, there was nobody in the audience to make any comments. So,
that's the reason why I didn't do any audience comments. So, just want to put that out there for the record. Okay, on to the next piece of business. Uh, the ID decision support tool. Uh, Dr.
Wson is not here this evening. Is anybody prepared to do the presentation of the ID support tool? >> I tried to pull it up and it wouldn't allow me to. >> Well, that is something we're going to need to fix. So, let's make sure we put
that on the agenda and get it so that um Francis or any one of us can pull it up. Um, >> it's probably setting that it has to set. >> Yeah, it's fine. Or he could share it as part of uh being in SharePoint, but not
that I'm a computer scientist and do with us all day, anything like that. So, this is all good. All right. So, we'll just have to skip that. The only thing um do we have any updates on West Nile or Triple E? because we're into that season where it's going to start to, you
know, it's starting to get dark outside again, all that kind of good stuff. So, anything any updates on there? >> Um, the Westnau virus mosquitoes are doing a very good job of staying outside of Littleton. >> That is amazing. How do what barrier did
we put up around the property lines of Littleton for that to happen? >> I don't know yet. >> Wow. >> Um, yeah, that's great. Um, so I mean a lot of towns, I think 10 towns last week went on a uh critical high alert. Um,
Littleton was not one of those towns. We still remain moderate. Uh there's nothing that's been recent in the vicinity, but as always, we caution people to use um standard precautions such as putting on uh EPA approved
repellent, wearing long sleeves when possible. Um try to avoid going out between dusk and dawn hours when they're the most active. Um the good thing about Westnile virus, I don't know if it's good, but it's not triple E. So >> that probably is one of the good things.
It's not E. Um, have we had any uh mention of Tripoli around us uh as we head some? >> So far this season, there has been uh positive mosquito samples, but no human cases at this point. And I believe the samples that were positive were more
towards Worcester, Mass. >> Beautiful. Far away from us. Um, okay. Is there anything that we need to be doing to become more prepared for if when West Nile becomes more serious or triple E
becomes a thing? >> Um Tripoli E is unpredictable. We would have to probably have an emergency meeting much like last year. Um and board would want to consider what kind of restrictions might or recommendations might be appropriate at the time. But as of right now, as we haven't seen any
human cases, that's a good sign at this point in the season. Um the temperatures are dipping. It's just important to for people to remember that just because it gets colder in the season until the first actual frost um mosquitoes can be dormant at any point and then come back out if there's a high temperature
>> a warm spell. >> A warm spell. Okay. So there So we are ready to go if it goes from moderate to some other level for West Nile and ready to go for all that stuff if we need to. and triple E. Let's keep knocking on wood to make sure that uh we don't have
to do any emergency meetings. Awesome. Okay. Uh anything else from the panels panel uh from the board? Sorry. Anything anything? Okay.
I'll consider that closed at 7:30. Uh we are cooking along. We got 2 minutes before our next item is kind of coming along which is administrative matters. Wow, we should have vamped a little bit more on the west now. Okay,
>> please no. >> So sorry. Um yeah, so the addition ID decision support toll also had the COVID numbers. Uh wastewater. I took a peek at wastewater yesterday. Did anybody else take any peek at the wastewater stuff?
Um because I haven't seen anything. It looks okayish. I'm not seeing a weird spike or anything like that. So, I think that's where I'm at with that. Um RSV, I haven't heard anything from
hospitals or anything like that, so I'm assuming that's okay. Dan or Kevin or Francis, have you heard anything from anybody? Has our nurse in town heard anything, Francis, that RSV is in the
population? >> Uh, not yet. >> Okay. Um, my wife did get her RSV vaccination. So, for those of you that are of age and appropriate risk exposure, uh, please consider going and
getting an RSV vaccination because RSV is nasty. really nasty. All right. And uh let's see. So, COVID, RSV, West Nile, Triple E, oh, flu. Um, how are we doing
on that? I don't think they've I don't think we've seen any large uptick or anything like that. The state started doing numbers if I remember correctly. >> I don't think we'll start to see anything for at least another month. I would >> All right. So, everybody go get your
COVID and flu vaccines. Pretty pleased with sugar on top. All right, it is now 7:40. Woo! There we are. Look at that. Administrative matters. Yay, Francis. Um, so recently we were notified that we're going to be receiving an
additional $40,000 for opiid settlement funds. Um, it's not as good as it sounds. Um, so they're going to be two packages. One comes from the Sackler estate in Purdue. Um, that one I believe
is worth about 35,000. And then there's going to be a second package um for secondary secondary manufacturers. Um, and I believe that one is about 56. Um, why it's not great is because that's
um the first one is over 10 years and the second one is over 15 years. So it does not really help in our yearly. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So it's being set up as a uh
structure settlement >> is essentially what it does. >> Yep. It'll go in the stabilization accounts just like the other ones, but it will account for some kind of small programming. Is there any Is there any way that we can Oh, well, maybe we can
buy tick things like tick more tick kits or more COVID vaccine or or COVID tests or something like that. >> The state is very strict about how we spend it. They won't let us >> Oh, that's right. It has to be specific. Oh, that's right. Sorry, I forgot about >> Yeah.
Um, I the good thing is it might help with certain programming where we might be able to increase participation by offering like gift card incentives or something like that or prizes to engage audiences. Um,
so that's most likely where it'll end up. >> Okay. Myar balloon filled with air to give to kids that come and get vaccines. Okay. Dan didn't like that idea. >> Yeah.
>> All right. Uh any comment from the board on any of those on the on that item? >> Hearing none, let's move on. >> Um so our regional open group is still in conversations. We sent out what we
think an IMA would look like to town council. Um, we just got it back today actually and they didn't really have any comments. Um, >> for those of us that may not know the TLA threeletter acronym for an IMA, could we please explain what an IMA is?
>> Sorry. Uh, it stands for intermunicipal agreement. Um, so be agreement between two or more municipalities. >> Excellent. >> Thank you. >> You're very welcome. >> Awesome. Thank you. So, as of right now, what that would cover if we're looking
at an agreement would be filling a position of basically a specialist or a third party agency that would fill that role. Um, an extension to that, we've recently been talking with um Riverbend, which used to be LOL House. Um, they're
well-known organization. They've been around for about 50 years. There was a recent grant through RISE um which is part of the opiate settlement funds where you can do matching contributions towards some kind of initiative during the year. So we're meeting with them
next week because they want to talk about some ideas they had and see if we can connect within a group to be able to do something. Um so it'll be an interesting conversation. I'm not sure what those ideas are yet, but I'll let you know once I get them next week. >> Beautiful.
Does anybody on the board have any questions or comments regarding it? >> Okay, next administrative matter. Um so recently we have participated in a um round table for um health access in
the region north central. Um and one of the big initiatives that the health foundation of central mass has been trying to work on is creating teley health centers um within the region for people set up in maybe municipalities or
certain buildings um to help people have better accessibility to healthcare appointments. Um, so we talked last week and right now they're looking at a site and s uh air sorry and um considering looking at municipalities if they can
host a room for local residents where they can give you the equipment to be able to conduct it. Um so Littleton has been part of that conversation and so far it seems like a reasonable good idea. Um most likely would be looking at the senior center to be able to host
something like that. Um so those talks are ongoing. they're just kind of in the initial stages, but I just wanted to give the boards a heads up early on before we get in more serious talks and it comes before you. >> I think that's an amazing idea to have the remote tellalth be at this at the
community center where the nurses are already located. I think that would be absolutely amazing. Um the other thing that came to mind quickly also but may interfere with the septic system over at the point was there's all those uh open places for um something to come in over
at the point but because of the septic system on there and can't exactly open that. So that's there. Um, as far as community health too, did you were you guys at that round table talking about the new uh UMass
Med emergency room center going into Grten or was that not brought up at that community round table? >> That was last week. Um, so we didn't get the Monday announcement on it. >> Okay. >> Um, but I'm sure there'll be a future discussion about it because they'll
probably tie into each other at some point. >> Okay. Beautiful. Uh any of the members of the board have any comments questions? Nothing. Perfect. Next item on administrator. >> Um last one I will um address is we
currently have a housing situation at 421 King Street. Um known as Littleton Green. It's senior affordable housing. Um, I want to mention the case because we might get sucked into a legal battle that's going on with the case. Um, so
there was a situation where uh a tenant is now deceased. There was a hoarding condition within the unit itself and there was a flood from the bathroom sink um that extended into the common halls and also a neighboring apartment.
Um, There's also which makes it complicated a um sibling injunction for um inheritance of stuff that is in the unit itself. So the case is stuck in court right now and who gets what in the unit
and essentially management has not been able to go into the unit because of the court case. Um so they have sealed the unit but they have not been able to address the issue of the previous water damage and given the hoarding of the case. um they're not going to be able to
appropriately remediate at this point anyway unless they move all the stuff out. So, we're working with management right now where I've sent an order saying that it's an unsanitary condition. It's also a public health nuisance and it needs to be remediated
immediately. So, we are requesting uh immediate action and remediation to be completed within 30 days. But by doing that, we might have to spend a day in court explaining the order and why um it's more important than what the legal
battle is about right now. So the management company can go out, take the stuff, put it into a storage unit offsite, and be able to remediate carpets, everything in the apartment that was affected. Tanner,
>> Kevin, any questions? Uh just a quick one. So I mean in this case what the that the civil discussion is is on the civil side. This really is a is a public health since it extended beyond that apartment into common areas and next door that
um you're working with the management company. Have you had to reach out to housing court or you know you issued the order that needs to be corrected? Um, I guess I'm just like, do is this a housing court issue
the order to basically try to override the civil discussion back and forth or is it already before civil court side and we need to go before them to say they can figure it out but we need to do this first. I'm just wondering what that
process is. And certainly going to housing court is part of what we do, but just kind of like what the where where is there a barrier? What's the barrier? And how can we help get past that so we can make sure the building the neighbors are in a good place?
>> Yeah. So that's an excellent question. Um, right now it is a civil matter. So that's why we did the letter so that it could be done that way. um as a public health hazard. Obviously, that trumps any other situation. So, basically what the letter does is starts the timer
before we go to housing court. So, if they can't comply within this time, then we go to housing court with a criminal complaint. Um and that's how we get that done. Um it's just unfortunately everything's a process and everything takes a certain time, you know. So, um
but on both sides, we're basically playing the system to see which one will get a quicker result. Um, other obvious concerns about mold and everything else, is there anything more acute as far as water is still on
the other apartments and there's no I mean, I'm sure the building inspector has also been out to make sure there's no structural damage from the water, that kind of stuff, right? So, it's not this isn't it's urgent, but it's not emergent. >> Yeah. I mean, obviously, it's impacting people. The smell is somewhat foul. Um,
and it just basically it's going to get worse by the day. And there's also a pet in the apartment which given the conditions probably didn't help the situation. So there's probably something to that as well. >> Have we tried to remove the pet from >> the pet has been removed. It's been
rehoused. We're in the process. >> Okay. All right. Good. >> Mr. Baker, do you have any >> No comment? No questions. Have we have we reached out to town council about this yet or >> they're aware of it, but
>> Okay, that's that's all I wanted to do is make sure that they were aware. All right, beautiful. >> Uh I think you said that's the last. Does anybody else have anything in administrative matters that they would like to bring up? >> Good one. All righty. Uh that is it for
administrative matters. It is now 7:51. We are deep into our agenda. Love this correspondence. Did we have any correspondence this week from anybody? Francis. >> Um so that correspondence that I for to
the board just recently this week is from the um I forget their name. Tobaccof free generation. Um, I don't know if that's something the board wants to look at and consider, but I just wanted to forward to you and bring it to your attention.
Um, I I think we have to look at our tobacco regulation as well. So, um, we can certainly talk about it as part of that discussion. I think it'd be important now to look at tobacco reg regulation considering 550 construction will start certain companies will be around. So things like if you want to
have a limit on tobacco permits and type of tobacco operations that are allowed in the town for new construction. >> Okay. Uh I think uh is there an appetite on the board for doing something like that?
Board members that are present. >> I guess it's just generally a question of whether we want to make that an agenda item. Yeah. Okay. So, an agenda item for discussion. Okay. Let's go ahead and do that. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Um, any other correspondence uh from the board? Did anybody receive anything from the board themselves? Nothing. Nothing. Actually, I did receive one email from a constituent. Um, it was concerning some confusion
around the COVID vaccine and age and how to get it and all that kind of good stuff. I re uh referred them to some uh public direction that the Mass uh public health uh had sent out around that and I pointed uh to our page that had some
general information and also told them to go have a conversation with their primary care physician because that is the best place to have that discussion. Um so I think that was something that was really good and it was very crazy for like three or four days of what was
going on and happening. So, uh, hopefully we're headed in the right direction. I think we are. So, that's all good. Uh, does anybody else have any other comments or discussion or board member
updates? Board member updates. National It's the National Pancake Day or anything like that. Dan, usually you got something like that. Come on, man. Well, it is coming to the end of
September, but September is suicide prevention month. >> So, you know, obviously it's a a big solution to what may be a temporary problem. Reach out for help, whether that's through your medical provider, your community, 988. There are
lots of opportunities, but certainly reach out. If you're concerned about friend or family member, intervene, don't ignore it. Hope it gets better. Um, you know, certainly if it's emergent, um, 911 is there. We have co-responder program here in Littleton
now, thanks to our consortium with Actton, Boxboro, and it may just be the two of them, but we have many options here from simply dialing 988 to talk to somebody or 911 for something that's emergent and and needs to be dealt with
right this minute. So, reach out, take action, don't ignore it like anything else, see something, say something. Same thing happens for your friends, family, and and for yourself. There you go. There's my PSA. >> Perfect. Uh, and I'll second all of that
and amplify that. Also, keep an eye on your not only general people, but also teens. Teens can have an awful lot of pressure on them from not only social pressure, social media, and other things. So, please be aware of that as well and use
all those resources that Kevin >> um I'd like to make a motion. >> Make a motion. What? I have I have I have one thing I'd like to talk about just just before you make that motion because I think that's the motion you're going to make. Um October is coming up
is uh breast cancer awareness month and all cancers. Uh so please um do what is the appropriateness to go talk to your primary care and take care of yourself um and all things that need to happen for that. So that is also coming up. So
thank you so much for that. Um do we have anything else? I don't think we do and I do we have anybody in? We do not have any attendees. So there's no one in there. So Kevin, I think you are going to say something. >> All right. Yes. I'd like to make a motion to adjurnn.
I have a motion on the floor to adjurnn. Do I have >> second the motion to adjurnn? >> Motion and seconded. This calls for a roll call vote. Mr. Baker. >> Kevin Baker votes yes. >> Mr. Kaine. >> Mr. Kane votes yes.
>> And Mr. Davis, the chair votes yes. This concludes our September 24th, 2025 board of health meeting for the town of Littleton.