Well, let's officially call to order the meeting of the Littleton Cultural Council on December 9th, 2025 at 7:02 p.m. Um, this meeting is being recorded, just so everybody knows. Um, and our first official order of business is to
approve the minutes from the last meeting. Did everybody get a chance to read them over? And if so, can we take a vote to um approve them? >> I motion to approve the meeting minutes. >> I will second that motion. >> Okay. All in favor? I
>> I >> I All right. 8 minutes have officially been approved at 7:03 p.m. Um uh so tonight we're here to discuss the rest of the panel book and to hopefully um figure out the rest of the grant funds
that will go to all of our applicants. Um we are waiting for Rey to sign in. Oh, which I think there he is. and um and he will probably drive the spreadsheet, but I do have the panel book open if anybody wants me to share
my screen and um uh take a look at that stuff or if we'd rather share the um the Excel drive screen. I think that's what we did last time where >> Yes. >> Yeah. Um and just to let everyone know, there is um a grantee, someone who put
something in who has logged in here, so he can hear everything that we're saying. His name is Andrew. He's for the Fourth of July picnic. Um, so I don't know if we maybe want to. He had emailed us to say, you know, can I come into the meeting in case you guys have questions about that? So I um we could probably
just start with that. That way we're not holding him up if we if people >> Perfect. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. So >> yeah, let me know when you're ready and I'll promote him once we get ourselves set up here, once we're situated. >> Good. Thank you. >> Yeah. Great. Okay. Um, hi Ray. Um, if
you don't mind driving by sharing your screen with the Excel spreadsheet again, that would be so great. Um, and like Kiki said, we're gonna allow Andrew into the meeting once we pull up the spreadsheet. Um, should we show him the spreadsheet or should we like just discuss? >> No, I think we should uh I think we
should hear him out and >> Okay, >> then we can move on with the rest of our business. >> Okay, perfect. I'm just going to pull up the panel book. >> Yeah, maybe we should share the panel book with his application open and then we can do that. Yeah, that's a good idea. Okay. Um, I have it up. Do you
want me to share my screen real quick? Okay. Uh, see if I can make this a little smaller. Okay. Um, let me see where the picnic is. I think it's seven, right? Okay. Okay. >> Yes.
>> So, Andrew Bowers is his name. Andrew Bowers. >> Okay. All right. I'm just kind of scrolling until I get to it. >> Can you guys see it, by the way? >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Mhm. >> Fabulous.
Okay. The just keep going. Hold on. Sorry it's taking me so long. >> It's okay. >> I can think of a better way to get there. >> Nope. Uh, wait.
>> That was it. I think >> this is it. Okay. >> Yeah. Go back. >> Yep. Okay. Perfect. Okay. So, we is Is Andrew in? >> Yes. Let me promote him um to allow him to I don't know what uh Okay. Let me see. It's giving me multiple choices. Allow to talk or change role to
panelist. Well, we can change his role and then he can see us. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well done, Andrew. you'll hear us and you're going to see something pop up where I'm going to change your role to panelist so we can hear and um you can speak and so just press approve. Okay, I see Andrew and I see Andrew on
mute. Um, Andrew, would you mind unmuting yourself and just um we can introduce you to everybody on the cultural council? >> Okay. Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Excellent. >> Can you hear us? >> Yes. >> All right. Perfect.
>> Hi, Andrew. Nice to meet you. >> Thank you very much. And thank you so much for allowing me into your meeting. >> Yeah, of course. I simply, you know, wanted to be available for any questions you might have and certainly wanted to promote the event to the cultural
council. Um, I think it's um it's a win-win and um I'm hoping for if not, you know, full funding than as much funding as as you can provide. Um, not only is it an event in Littleton for Little Tontonians, but the um the
entertainment uh also features Littletonians. I don't know. I think you're probably familiar with Molly Flannry, but she's putting together a musical ensemble and that's what we're looking to fund. >> She's a a longtime Littleton resident.
>> That's great. Yeah. um we we're thinking so the way that we've been sort of um going through all of our applicants um is we've kind of given like a preliminary yes um or or a straight up no um if we think you know oh no um this
doesn't meet our um you know um what we're kind of looking for and then going back in like we're going to go back in the end and like give the funding. So, I figured the piece that would be um maybe important for you to be here would be while we just discuss um yes or no, like
does this fit into the cultural council's mission type of thing. Does that work for you? >> Sure. >> Perfect. So, um I'm just going to start um I I pulled up the panel book. It's basically a book that the Mass Cultural Council creates sort of for us with all
our applicants um that applied for money in the system. and we have quite a few uh which is great and we have um all the information here. So um I can give a quick summary for everybody. I know we've all kind of looked over the panel
book already but essentially um um what is being submitted is there's a 4th of July town picnic um in 2026 at FA Park and there are requesting $1,500 for um music for the picnic. Um they're
estimating there are 250 people that would this would serve. Um and it serves all Littletonians, not just the preK through 12, which is great. Um, and then this is just a quick summary of the program um, which does mention the Molly Flannry Trio, which is um, uh, a local
artist, and they will be performing various styles of music from jazz to pop and patriotic songs that probably go along with the Fourth of July theme, celebrating the 250th anniversary of the birth of the United States. Um, and the event will be free to the public. So,
this is just to pay the the performers, it sounds like, >> correct? Great. Um, and it looks like it's also piggybacking on publicity from the Lson Historical Society who will be having a program earlier in the day. Um, and this is a
breakdown of the budget and costs. Um um we they have not applied to other uh local cultural councils um for the project, but they might be able to um some funding from the Littleton Rotary um with the artists fees if we are
unable to approve. Um yeah, so I think that's the end. I will turn it over to the council um an initial thoughts as to whether or not we think this would kind of meet our um cultural council um mission.
So, this already was deliberated on in our last monthly meeting when we did an initial review. Um, and since you've come, Andrew, it's a great opportunity for members of the council to ask you questions and I probably have one or two. >> We had marked this as a maybe in terms of funding, which meant um possible
funding, probably not full funding. For context, probably not any applicant this year will get full funding. We had um way more applicants requesting way more funds than the council has at its ability to grant. >> Um and so uh although there are many
worthy projects uh that come very close or at least reasonably close to meeting the council objectives um just in terms of funds available we won't be able to fully fund anyone uh on the list very likely although that the ultimate decision still has remained to
be voted on. Um I'm curious if I may start with a question. What organizations are you partnering with in order to put on this event and like what's the current plan for how it's going to be organized and carried out? >> Sure. First and foremost is the
Littleton Historical Commission. They're basically the sponsors of the picnic and uh that's given a shoe into um other town departments such as park and wreck. Um I was actually just meeting with them
earlier um this evening and um and then at the actual event um we bring in the selectmen. The selectmen are are are are asked to to speak and um and then of course we're tying this in with the
historical society uh since they're also doing another program uh slightly earlier in the day. So there are several tie-ins. >> You mentioned, sorry, this is Juliana Andrew. You mentioned parks and wreck. I
I'm wondering what kind of participation because this sounds to me like a similar event from the October Fest sort of that parks and wreck organizes. So I'm wondering what kind of support are they giving? Are they sure ask them also for
funding or is it more like the >> No, no, no funding is available through park and wreck but um they certainly are the uh people who grant permission to use fate park first and foremost. Also, they're going to be instrumental in um working with you know setting up police
detail um portaotties that kind of logistical stuff. >> Okay. Great. So, you asked for funding and they said they had no funds available. Is that >> Yeah. Yeah. This this
this is why we're turning to the cultural council and and of course also to the Littleton Rotary. >> Okay. >> Has Rotary giving you any feedback? >> Yes, very positive. Um so I think we're on track to getting funding from the
Rotary. Um to what degree, I'm not sure. This evening I just found out from uh the park and wreck people that there's um substantial outlay for the police detail and a little less so for the portaotties, but we're talking easily um
another thousand dollars being added to the the cost of the event. >> And Andrew, this is this is Jen. Um can you tell me a little bit more about the concert itself? How long do we expect the performers to perform? Um how large
an audience do you do you anticipate? >> Sure. Um one of the problems with um estimating the audience is the fact that the um Fourth of July falls on a long weekend and that um throws a you know a
question um as to you know how many people are going to be you know in town and available. Um, and then of course that begs the whole uh publicity which is another kettle of fish that we'll be cooking later on. Um, but we're estimating anywhere between 150 and 250
and I think probably the the real amount will be about in the middle. So I think we're saying looking at about 200 people. Um, excuse me. And then um I'm sorry, what was the rest of your question?
>> About how long will the the concert last? >> Sure. The concert um generally is about an hour and a half um with a a break. Molly's proposing to do two sets >> um and um is offering like like I said in the write up quite a variety of
music. So that that's pretty typical. An hour and a half with a a break. >> Thank you. And does anybody have any other questions for Andrew? >> What would happen, Andrew, if we're not
able to to support this or fully support this? What what alternatives are would you look into? >> That's a very good question. And in some ways, you know, I'll cross that bridge when I have to. Um I may go back to the Rotary, you know, and and you know, ask
for more money. um that um that seems problematic. They seem to be happy with um what was requested, but I don't know how happy they'd be with being asked for more. And um it it could be that um the
society, the historical society may have funds for such an event, but that seems unlikely as well. So, >> Andrew, what else? What else besides this concert? Um this is Judy. Um >> Sure. What else besides the music is
happening? Is it I mean can you describe how you picture the day unfolding? Sure. >> What this is um sort of following an old formula of Fourth of July town picnic which um starts with opening ceremonies. We we've already arranged for the church bells to be rung. Um and then from the
gazebo we have uh brief speeches from the selectman um from the select board from the historical commission. um and any dignitary who who may you know show up. Um and then we um switch over to
children's games and that will be again um fairly traditional you know relays and sack races that type of thing. And then as that winds down then we um turn to the concert portion. Just to be clear um people would be asked to bring their
picnic lunch. We're not providing food. We're not preparing food. Um we may have you know water available or snacks available but um people are going to be you know packing in and packing out their own um picnics.
>> Thank you. >> Sure. >> All right. So, I think it is worth mentioning while Andrew's here just the council priorities that were that we've had for the past few years, um, focus some of the council's
priorities and funding on, uh, events that incorporate and focus perhaps on the youth of the town and the school systems and those programs as well as events that are specifically for the local. We get some applications that are for events that happen elsewhere
like in the region but outside of Littleton. >> Um, as well as things that promote uh other aspects of of culture in the town versus like there's a few specific council priorities other folks can speak more fluently than than I can. I'm I'm
stumbling over my words. >> Well, just to be just to be perfectly clear, I'm I'm the past chair of Littleton Cultural Council, so I understand. >> So, you're very aware. Yeah, very aware of it then. >> I know where you're heading. >> So, I think it'll be a there are some
criteria that this absolutely fits with with what the council has in in mind for its priorities for how it's going to allocate funds this year. There are other things where it maybe doesn't align as well. Um, which is I think why it landed on a maybe when we did our first round of deliberations last month.
Um, but you know, we it's great for you to come and h and advocate for what you think is going to be an excellent event and it's great to hear some of the details and some of the people that you're working with. So, we'll take we'll take that into consideration as we make final decisions. >> Can I ask >> Well, I certainly appreciate the ability
to to speak with you. I'm sorry. >> I just wanted to know um is there any contingency plan if the 4th of July was a rainy day? >> The contingency is to move it to the 5th. >> Okay. Yep.
>> Heaven forbid. >> I know. >> It wouldn't be good for the fireworks either. >> So, we're So, Andrew, we're going to um we have it as as a maybe po, you know, and probably will um deliberate on
funding um at a I don't know if we're going to get to that tonight, guys, or if we're planning on doing that at another time. So, we're going to go through the rest of our applicants because we we have quite a few. So, you can either obviously it's an open meeting. you can stay on for the next couple hours or you can drop off and we
can let you know. Um, so that's totally up to you. >> I appreciate your I appreciate your invitation, but I think I will move on. >> I got it. We We do have some lively discussions as I'm sure you remember. >> Again, thank you for your application and for your interest. >> I appreciate it.
>> Thank you for coming and for your time, Andrew. >> Sure. My pleas My pleasure. >> Good luck. >> Thank you. Bye. All right. Okay. Um, I'm gonna stop sharing. I'm
gonna let Ray share the screen for the Excel spreadsheet. >> Let me get it up. >> Thank you. >> Let me know if you guys can see my screen. Okay. >> Yes. >> Yes.
There any chance you could make it a little larger for those of us with old eyes? >> Oh, you're my hero. Thank you. >> Um, let's see. That's good, right? >> Uh, let's see. Somewhere. >> Oh, that's actually great.
>> Oh, that's wonderful. >> That's good. That even I can make that one out. We don't we don't really need to see some of the I'm just going to like resize things uh quickly just because there's some of these things we don't need to see as much of.
>> I honestly forget where we stopped last time. Do you guys remember? >> We completed we completed we got all the way through. Yeah, we're we're not yes and you know with well I don't know that we we said yes and maybe on a bunch
of stuff and >> well we did we got all the way through. I'm so proud >> what you're seeing is already filtering out the nos. >> Okay, >> just to focus us in on the things to discuss tonight. Um so we did have some
definitive nos. Those were uh effectively agreed on in the last meeting, although I think that they would be confirmed by a final vote tonight. Um but I we can show them at a point in the meeting if everyone wants to look. For now, though, I've filtered it down to the decisions that were made last time, showing just the ones where
we said definitely yes, maybe. And then the maybe COA is where we had a variety of similar um applications for Council on Aging and we wanted to maybe pick the the ones that we thought might might be the the best. So uh >> did you shrink that back up?
>> Did I shrink what back up? >> I small again is what >> small again? >> You had it at like 200. That was good. Uh, >> so I don't know if you can do this, but in in my computer I can zoom it.
>> Maybe try like in your if you have a a mouse like I don't know is it a laptop that you're on or no >> because if I if I zoom it, I can make it big or small in my computer from my end. >> Okay, >> here I'm going to try these things.
>> That's good. I can read it now. Thank you. That's good. So, we're at number two then. >> Um, yeah, because number one, I believe we had set up. >> Yes, >> that's what my records say, too.
>> Okay. Um, so I'm open to different ways of moving through the next steps of the deliberation. Uh, one thing we've done in past years is to say, well, how far over are we if we give full funding or half funding to every one of them? And then you can work
your way backwards from that or we could go one at a time and make a specific dollar amount determination one at a time. There's different ways of doing this. So I say >> do we know how much we gave them last year? >> Somebody didn't apply last year, but for
those that did apply, I have that in the same spreadsheet and I can show you that. So like if you wanted to start with one like actton, actually I don't know that acting community center applied last year, but I'm going to check. >> No, it did. So, Actton Community Center
had a 20 uh 25 grant and we gave them $500. >> Okay. >> They've requested $500 this year. >> Okay. >> But we have more applicants and fewer fund and and yet the same amount of
funds to distribute. So, giving them the same amount as last year may or may not be the thing we want to do. >> Right. Um um There are some there's another way to look at this is to look at some big some of the big ticket ones because those are often the ones that are driving us to be
so far over uh what what we have available to to give out. We did have some definite yeses that however ask for a lot of funds. So you could start off by going through the yeses and saying like is that a reasonable amount where we could um just
give them the whole amount? Is it uh is it is it still a definite yes, but it's just too much to ask for and so we haircut it back to something else. That that could be one way of doing it and then we see how much money is left over to the navies. >> I like that. I I think that because we we have a priority already prioritized
which ones we're like, "Yes, definitely." Um that then we'll at least give those priority for the for the funding, you know what I mean? And then go back in and play around. I don't know how everybody else feels, but that's how my brain kind of thought about it at first. Just for fun then, not well, not for
fun. We're not doing this for fun, but I I'm saying that to fill >> fill the empty air. I'm going to put in the full amount for um the firm yeses just so we can see what the grand total is if we were to do that. I'm not saying we do that, but I'm just saying if we were.
>> Yep. That's a good way to look at it. >> The firm yeses. Uh what's this at? 11700. Don't look at this orange row. You got to look at the yellow row. So, we're already within $250 of our max.
>> Okay. >> Um, if you gave a full Yes. Now, we could go back through and say, okay, anything that's a higher ticket, maybe what if we gave them half. So, forgive me. I'm just going to play around with numbers a little bit while you guys watch me. Um, but like let's say for the
for this big Shaker Lane one, we did half. Let's say for the big um uh Littleton PTA, which I know is I believe middle school one, we did 12250. Um let's say for the big Littleton High
School one, we did half. And let's say for the big show Players one, we did half. Now you're down to 7,750 versus the 12 roughly the 12,000 number that we have available. So now you've now you've got uh let's say roughly 4,000 extra to
distribute among the may. >> Okay. >> So that could be a starting point. I'm not saying we could definitely go back and cut further on the yeses if we feel we need to depending on how much we like the may, but that could be a starting point that then we use to then start going through the may and seeing what we
want to do. >> Yeah, I like that. And then we can look at the may because they might end up being nos, right? or like they might end up being >> like, you know, I don't know if we put this in the minutes, but I believe the intent was that we would not say yes to all of the council on aging ones. So,
there will be a few of those that probably end up being those. >> Yeah, let's start there. I like that. >> So, we'll leave all the funding at half for the big big projects just for now >> and then we'll go to the Council on Aging ones and go through which ones we think make sense to say, you know, to to
fund the most, etc. Just so you know, >> so there were seven council on seven council on aging. I've highlighted them here. >> Yeah. >> Sorry, someone was speaking. >> Oh, I was just going to say just, you know, for the minutes. It's basically just had discussion about grant projects. So it's not like >> Yeah,
>> but it is recorded whenever we say. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Ray, can you >> can Oh, no. Sorry. I can do it from my screen. Forget it. >> No, you're fine. >> Um, do you want to go with the highest cost one, the monthly ukulele first? Just since we were doing that the other
way on the other way. >> Can I just ask >> I mean I'm sure that one is highest cost because it is a monthly event that they're proposing as opposed to a one time. Most of these are onetime events. Sorry, Jen. What were you saying? >> I was just I was going to ask about the monthly ukulele because wasn't that quite limited um the number of
participants? >> I don't remember. >> Let me bring it up. >> I got it here. I just >> scroll scroll scroll scroll. >> I know. I know. It's hard. >> I know. I wish there were page numbers on the >> Some some people included like 15 pages
of stuff. >> I know. >> Good for them for doing that. It just makes it a little bit tricky. >> There were two ukulele ones, right? One was jazz ukulele and another one was >> past if you press control F, like control
find, you can type in the word UK and it'll start to pop it up and you'll think >> that's exactly what I just did. Oh, there. >> Yeah, here we go. Monthly ukulele. Second Friday of the month. Littleton Senior Center. Estimated people served 300.
>> Oh, 300. Okay. I must have had it confused with something else because I was thinking it was much. >> How does that serve 300 people? >> Applicant. Well, look at look at the way they do the math. Applicant brings 25 ukuleles, a lesson, and a song prepared for an hour of learning, music playing,
and camaraderie. So they're kind of taking 25 times the number of months getting to 300. So each time it's roughly 25ish participants unless there's other people. >> So they come they come once a month and
do that. Is that what they're proposing? >> Second Friday of the month. Yeah. >> Second Friday. I honestly I mean considering how many we have I think this is like the least of my favorite because you if you're trying to teach them people something people need to practice if you don't have your own
ukulele to take out to take home or take with you after the whatever minutes the class lasts there's no much progress and then the next week that you're like I I I've learned instruments so I I and I think most of you do too or your have
your kids in classes like it's it's not going to really achieve its objective in my opinion other than having a good time which is also great but I think I prefer the other >> maybe there is something better is what you're saying there's something >> it's not my favorite of of the events
this is not my favorite cuz it's the idea is that this is a ukulele class right not a not not a concert or anything like that so even though I agree that they would have a lot of fun and it would be great I don't see the benefits of having a class where you can't practice or progress Yes. So, I'm
I'm okay with taking it out if you guys agree or >> Well, I before we necessarily do that, I'd love either Juliana or anybody. Were there any of these that folks really did like that we were like, "Hey, that was one I really either, you know, are there
any of these that we really do like? I mean, we could work it from both angles. Some we may not like. Are there others where we would champion it, >> saying like that really fits the bill?" I actually liked this one. Sorry. It's only because I actually
during co I learned ukulele and I'm like I'm not like a very patient person. It was really easy and I didn't spend a lot of time on it. And I think music and learning an instrument really helps with memory loss and things like that. And I >> you would need your own ukulele for it to work. Like I agree with you 100% of
like what you're saying to say they don't go out and buy it. Right. That's what I'm asking is this says they need their own ukulele or they're provided >> they're provided >> they are provided I think bring 25 but if they you know you try it out and you
like it then maybe you go out and you purchase your own let's take this approach let's turn and give a list of the senior ones and let's just say them out loud and we'll it'll refresh our memories and we can pick if
whi which seem the best for us to support. The ukulele is one. I see Creek Alley. That's one, right? >> A trip. >> If I may, if I may start at the top just because that's an easier way for me to scroll through this. Um
so such a difficult document to get through art and sealass. I see from Ireland to America sea songs and stories a performance for seniors. blended day, June 24th, 2025 at those at this senior center. They expect
100 people served. It's a program for adults celebrating the diverse cultural heritage of New England and maritime region with uh performers singing songs and stories to participate. So, a one one time event, but a professional performer who brings in, you know,
regional content um roughly 60 minutes. So, that would be one. >> And which which one was that? That was >> sea songs and stories. >> Sea songs. Okay. >> So, Creek Alley, which is number 12. I'll try to go to that next.
Um, actually, I think I made it there by luck. So, Creek Alley, a tribute to American folk music and 1960s folk rock. Again, one day, Thursday, June 11th, 2026. So, it's it has a date. It has a commitment. Estimated 35 people. So,
they're saying less than the prior one. Uh Sean Fullerton and Dan Kurowak present a 1-hour musical program of acoustic folk music written by the people for the people about the people. Educational talking points, a bit of humor discussing traditional American
folk music, the early 1960s revival and how it all influenced f folk rock in the mid to late60s. >> So that's the second one. It just I have one comment about that being old myself that's we all all the seniors know folk
music in 60 >> right that one definitely yeah >> I mean I'm just just a comment >> no I I get that I thought that too >> because I listen to a lot of that music actually myself so I was like oh yeah my my parents would have loved that
>> the next one then is digital art right photography and digital Uh, no. I think we said no to that one. >> Oh, we said no to that. You're right. >> Um, I'm just trying to find. >> And jazz calle. That's another one. >> Jazzulele. Yeah,
>> it's the next one. >> 18. Yep. >> Yep. Just got to find it. Is it jazzle? Jazz ukulele. There we go. Okay. spring 2026. So, they don't give a specific date. Um, four piece bands. They play
jazz popular folk novel songs from the 1920s and forward. Familiar Americana that people sing along with, clap their hands, tap their toes. Um, they >> Yes, one pro they estimate 80 people
served. They so this one I think actually did not indicate that they had a specific date and they are not saying a specific length. So it might have just been the way they wrote the grant application but this one is slightly less specific than
some of the others which unfortunately might work against it but that's something we can all decide um because they they don't they don't name a specific date or time or duration. If I remember too, some of these had like recommendations directly from people
like letters attached to them. Like I know >> some of these had the letter of the director. No, I think all of the senior center had them. >> Uh jazzle does not. Jazz ukulele does not. They do not they did not provide a letter. >> Okay. Well then that's a good point.
>> So So but let's keep going since since that was the request. So belly dancing for seniors uh number 26. Um, let me get to that. >> I'm all in for that one, guys. >> I am, too. >> I just want pictures. >> Me, too.
>> Um, I just got to find it. Where is it? >> Judy, you gonna go? >> Here. I just got to find Belly. Do a search for Belly. There's not going to be many of these. There we go. Nice. >> Judy. So, >> May 15th, 2025, Littleton Senior Center.
45 people. Target audience. Hourong program uses belly dance to encourage movement and joy. A performance to music from Egypt, Lebanon, and Turkey. Uh props and and uh you know specific instruments, songs, clap and hear the rhythm sing or hear the rhythm saying
free of charge events. So yeah, and I thought this one did have a letter I forgot to check if the first two did or not. >> There it is. Yeah, >> this one does have a letter of support from Council on Aging. Um, so let's go back to the next one. So
we already talked about monthly ukulele at the Littleton Senior Center. Although I didn't check if that one had a letter. >> It does. >> So that does do the Do the first two check to see if the letter >> the same thing as the other one. >> No, >> different >> different.
>> The moon is the concert and the other one is classes. >> I'll check through the other Ray. I can check through the other two if you want to go to Ireland to America just to see >> America. Yeah. Check check check to see if COA gave a letter to sea songs into creek. Yeah. Okay. Let me check. Let me check. Ireland America. That's number
37. So that's actually shortly after this one. Um. Okay. Almost there. Okay. >> Creek Alley has a letter. >> Wait one. Did I go too far? What is
this? Ireland. Here. I'll do the search for the word Ireland. Oh, we knew there would be more than one Ireland. Okay. Ireland to America, March 2026. So, not a specific date. Middleton Senior Center, 80 people served. Oh, this is Roger Tink Tinkell. So, yeah, we
have funded Roger Tinknell multiple years in the past. One hour interactive program celebration of traditional Irish and Irish American musical traditions. guitar, banjo, mandolin, Irish boozuki, Irish drum, penny whistle, etc., target
audience, Littleton seniors, but open to the whole community. So, and I'm pretty sure Roger has a letter because he usually gets support from the COA, and he does. >> And then the last the la the last one that we haven't talked about yet, >> number 41,
>> uh, live making history, a journey through, um, roots of American popular music. That's number 38, which I think is the very next one. >> Is that senior center too? >> Yes, it is. May 6th, 2026, 2026.
Live music making history is a series of programs that use songs performed on guitar and vocals along with slides and narrative. They are designed for library, schools, and other venues. This looks at characters and events in the origins of blues, rock and country music, birthplace of the blues, big bang, and country music. These are all
other programs that these guys do. Um, did I say this had a specific date? It does. May 6th. >> May 6th. Yes. >> No cost. Celebrating history. And do they have a letter? Yes, they do.
>> The other as well. >> Okay. So, everybody except Jazz ukulele has a letter. I I hate to say it, but to me that kind of rules out jazz ukulele >> because you gota you got to weigh these you gota weigh the grants application somehow, right? >> I agree with you. There's one more
senior one, isn't it? Oh, >> there was we said we said no to a few senior ones. So, like 40 41, I believe we had set a a preemptive no to for some reason for I don't know what the reason was. I didn't have a no, but I had a maybe. But,
>> okay. >> Never hurts. >> Um, 41. >> I had a I had a no on 40, but I had a maybe on. >> Oh, you're right. Oh, crud. Maybe my filter thing isn't working right here. Let me uh let me just check how I can do
this because I don't want to make that mistake again. >> That's going to be so wrong one right with Bob. >> Oh, you know why I forgot that that was I didn't mark that was senior center. That's why it didn't come up. Sorry. I did have it as a maybe I didn't have as a maybe senior center. >> That's the Ruben library. But it
is for through the senior center. >> Yep. That's okay. So then there's that one that Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash stories with Matt York. Matt York is another performer we've funded in past years. So we know we know Matt York. We've funded him before. >> If it's at the library, will more than
just seniors participate? >> Well, I was going to say I think we didn't put it as COA because it's at the library. It's not >> It's not through the Council of Aging. It's at the library. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. So that right then. >> I thought it was through the council and
the seniors. Okay. No, I think that's good for us. >> He applies himself and he's doing it at the library. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah, >> that's good because that's one less council on aging thing we have to get through. >> Do you all agree with with Ray's proposal about the one that has no
letter? We can just say no. Now >> I agree with that. >> Yeah, >> that's that's fine. >> Do we have to say the reason as we go or is that we go back to the nose after? No, we go back because >> um there's like drop downs for the reasons and so we'll have Yeah. And so
they it's like pre-programmed in there. So we would just pick I think there's one that says something like, you know, doesn't >> too many similar like >> right or like one that said didn't have, you know, location support or something like that. But >> yeah, >> I I think one thing that would be good
to agree on, I know that's a sidebar, but let's take it for a moment. Uh I um last meeting we talked about giving feedback to a few grant applicants that we either say no to or don't give full funding to. I I think that would be a good thing to do, but it requires an action item from one of us in order to
take the time to do that. >> But there's there's a couple of you know probably several of you too have been reached out by grant applicants and then we had one come to the meeting tonight. So you know they aren't throwing this into the void and just wait. So like there's a few where it'd be good to give that feedback back. There's one that
we'll get to later on with like the schools where they we had those two grant applications where it was very similar to another and we made the choice to fund at least partially fund one and say flat out no to the other and >> those folks have requested it's like well uh
I think we owe them some feedback as to why we're saying flat out no to the other because it's like hey you're kind of doubling up the request. Does it make sense to make those now or >> I think it makes sense to to make a note if we can add I don't know if there is a column to the right with comments so
that we don't forget and it's just easy and available because we're doing it now right? So if you can I don't know if >> uh yeah do my best. So let's see >> if you want right I can uh I can pop on to that and type the comments into it. >> That would be really helpful. Yeah, I'll
do that. >> Thank you. >> Uh okay. So um >> jazz ukulele basically what the comment will be for Kiki will basically just be like they're missing a letter from somebody and there was no was there
another reason was it no set location >> I think we put like all the other applicants for the venue had the support from the director and this one was the only one who didn't so that's the reason >> yep and also similar
>> and there's also a lot of COA applicants right too. I mean that's another consideration we don't have to put it in but certainly is. >> So so I am leaning towards Juliana's opinion also on the monthly ukulele. I think as far and it's I know that that's a gray area because a class is also a
valid cultural event. Um, but I I I think I'm personally leaning towards more offer, you know, choosing funding for several of the others that would it's higher magnitude dollar, which means harder to harder to support from just a financial aspect.
And there's a part of me that feels uh a preference for more of the concerts and events as opposed to the classes. Um, that may be just a personal preference as opposed to any
very logical or scientific reason for having that preference. But I think that I'm I'm leaning against the monthly and more in favor of partial funding for several of the others. But that's just my I'll just say my personal opinion at this point since why not.
>> I share that I share that opinion. Was last year's the first year that they had that grant? >> The monthly ukulele? >> Yes. >> No, they didn't. >> They have never applied before. They've never applied before. >> They never applied. Oh, okay.
>> Never. >> Um, let's see. Yeah, I was just pulling them up again >> because I know that they're doing them. So, I wonder where they got their funding before. Um, it says, "I'm writing in support of Julie Steenick, who ukulele classes brought joy and
music to our senior center this past year. People enjoy Julie's accessible teaching of beginner ukulele playing techniques. We would like to continue this program as a monthly program that can accommodate up to 25 participants as a community class. The series will provide opportunities for social connection while enhancing individuals
personal skills such as building confidence, honing attention span, supporting memory, and problem solving. That was kind of the letter from Megan Murphy who's the elder and human sources. It's not like they did like a oneoff like beginner ukulele class and now want to bring it. It's like a series.
>> The way I see it is if let's see people took it last year. They liked it then there's 10 of them. If they each pay I don't know a certain amount and this person comes I think the cost of the class amongst several is not that great.
If you are able to buy your own ukulele and are interested in that, I think those people can come together, create a group, and pay for the class as a group instead of obviously paying a one-on-one, which would be super expensive. So, I think people who are interested and who have experienced it
in the past and did in the past could come up with that. And and I yeah, I I love the idea, but I just don't think that this is what we should do. Okay. >> Other other other views. Other opinions.
>> I don't I don't That's fine. I I think that it's I think for the opposite reason like I like of everybody saying that like oh it's like I like that it's different. I like that it's a class um as opposed to just a performance. But I'm not going to dig my heels in it. if
everybody is like cool with like getting rid of it, especially because it's a large large cost, I'm totally fine with that. >> I I also think it's this is something we won't settle philosophically tonight, but there were there were other grant applications that were more classoriented,
>> not for senior center, but others. And we kind of said no to a lot of them. And I'm trying to remember our rationale last month for that. But in some cases, to me, it feels like class, >> like the photography one. Yeah, a class is slightly less
a slightly I don't know the right way to phrase this. A class feels that you can access it in more ways other than through the sponsorship of a group like the culture council.
>> I I'm trying to find a right way to capture >> ways to fund it. Yeah. like how would you get access to a performance if someone didn't sponsor the performer? It just doesn't happen. The performance gets cancelled. If you have a class, there are other ways to and I know
that's not a universally true. So, I'm addressing a gray area point. I admit that. But a class is there's like other ways to get access to a class, >> right? Well, to um you know, whoever I don't remember who said it, but to the point of you know, they could charge
somebody for it. they could still offer the class and say it's $10 per person, you know, whatever. >> And I >> Yeah. And I also I I I love the idea. I'm kind of I was on the fence about it. I was on the on the idea of like maybe we give them a little bit so they could
like get it started and then be a like to help with promotion or whatever and also be able to charge people because I like that it's a little different. Um, but I also my negative side of it is that it only serves 30 people whereas a performance theoretically, especially with the new senior center, you know,
you could have a hundred people come, right? Like it it does that $1,800 serve just a small amount of people? I I feel like $1,800 to serve >> 30 people and I know they're saying 300, but I think that's a little bit of that's a little bit of fun math, right?
Because it might be the same 30 people who sign up every single week. Right. Right. and and and there's a lot of unknowns about that. Would they would they limit that, you know? I don't know. So, I >> for it to really Sorry to I'm I should wait for you to finish. Sorry, Kik.
>> That's okay. >> Um and I think, you know, and that's another thing is there's a lot of unknown factors like would the same 30 people sign up and then it would just be 30 people. How would this all kind of work? Um and so although I like the idea and I would probably be more of a maybe on it, I'm not it's not a hill I'm going
to die on. So, >> so what I what I was going to say to your point is for it to really work in my opinion, it would need to have the same 25 people every week because otherwise if I don't know by the third class a new one comes
along, you're going to have to start from the beginning like what chord is this? You know what string this is? like it it doesn't work if you don't have the same 25 people as a because or I don't know maybe you have different instructors coming like I I just don't see >> it doesn't make it doesn't make any sense to me that it would change people
every class >> me neither I think they're going to register they're going to sign up and it's this amount of classes that in effect they're only serving 25 anything 25 people >> right so you're reducing the read >> yeah and if we had less applicants this
year I think we'd certainly consider it more Um, but there are so many this year. It's >> tough. And it's a really it's a really high amount, too, you know. So, it kind of feels like saying, "Yeah, we'll give you $200." Like, would that would that even make the event go if they're
looking for $1,800, you know? >> And I think they'll probably just charge if they don't get approval, right, your point. It'll still go through. >> No, they'll still have it. Honestly, I think they they could still have it because they if they have the numbers and the people interested, they could still make it happen.
>> Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay, I'm cool with moving on if we want to get rid of that one. >> Yeah. So, we're marking this one off. >> Yeah. >> For the notes, for the notes, I'm going to put, you know, amount of people served versus amount, you know, asked
for or something. >> Yeah. Like likely amount of people served because technically we don't know, but likely amount of people served. >> Did it say it it offered >> bigger expense? >> One a month. >> One a month. >> One a month times 10 months. I think that's how they got to the 300 people of
30. >> Well, they're saying they're serving 300, which is 30 time 10. So, they're really not serving you. You have to take it regularly or it isn't getting you any good, >> right? >> Just just as a m just as a musician, you can learn the ukulele in a one-hour
course. So, you really could do it once and you'd be fine. Yeah. But, um it's not like the piano or something like that. But, >> Right. So, are we moving on from this or we want to discuss it further? >> No, I think we
>> I'm okay to mark it as a no. It is a like these may are all going to be to us, but that's one I think part of it that just scares me away is the magnitude of what they're asking for. And and I feel like if we gave just a pittance, it's like >> it's not going to do any good. >> It's not really it's not really going to
allow them to do the program the way they want to anyway. Well, these others >> much. >> Right. Right. >> So, so >> and then I was even going to move on and say for some of the other COAs would now be the right time to almost just give a blanket smaller dollar amount to each of
them and say, "Hey, we can help you partially for any of these, >> unless there's others we wanted to rule out, but a lot of the rest of them are very similar. I don't know. To me, they're starting to be very similar in terms of what they offer, how many people they offer to. >> We really like the belly dancing." So, I
think No, I I I think I like that one more than than others. So, >> yeah, I'd be in favor in full fully funding that one. Honestly, >> I would prefer Yeah, me too. I would prefer to to differentiate between them and not give them just a >> It's cheap. Yeah, it's cheaper and it's
like got a high value against our mission, I feel like. >> Yes, me too. I like that one very much. >> Any other The others are all kind of onehour singing events. any any that folks feel a an affinity for? >> Well, Judy Judy said there was one that
she thinks would be very >> the folk song one. >> Oh, I just commenting that that that's up the old people's alley, >> right? >> Yeah. >> That's a really valid point and and good feedback. So, I think maybe focus on those two. >> Yeah. I feel like Well, I mean, if I'm
gonna if we're going to put our our two cents in, I feel like the Irish one is also a really popular one. you know, last year they had a big event um and they they weren't really able to get an Irish band because they actually reached out to me to try I tried to help them get someone just to be able to to um
have it. But that's a huge event that they have a ton of people at the St. Patrick's Day. If we were to support those three fully funding them, it's best to do that so that those events happen at the COA instead of giving just a little to everything and then maybe
they don't happen. >> Yeah, I like that, Juliana. That's a good point. >> Yeah. >> And then for the others that you're saying no, you could say, you know, like there were >> we could give partial over the others. Yep. >> There were many applications for this venue and so we decided to just, you
know, based on what we think would be more success. I don't know how to put it. You guys have better. >> We could still some, right? I mean, >> fully fun. >> Yeah. Fully fund those three and then
give partial to the others. Does that seem right? >> I I I wouldn't give partial to the rest of the COA because like I would prefer to look at the other grants before and and see if there's still money afterwards. You know what I
Let me funding you're fully funding three events for the same population >> and nothing on the others. That's what you're saying is >> what I'm saying is let's leave the COA as is for now. Let's move on to the others and then we can come back to the COA. If we still have money then those
who are still like maybe for the COA could get something and maybe they don't but they we've already funded three full events for that population. So So let me restate which ones I think you're saying. You're saying um >> number 12 >> Creek Alley
uh the the uh >> belly dancing for >> belly dancing and the Irish >> the from Ireland to America. >> Yes. >> How much is those three then? So uh 25
>> together that's 15 look up on the screen you'll see Ray has it all up here. >> Yeah Judy it's on the on the screen. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. So, is that an unreasonable amount if we say >> I like Julian's idea where like we could
start with that and we're we haven't made a final vote yet. So, we can move on to the others and then come back if we want. >> I think I'm good with that. >> Yeah, me too. >> That looks like a lot of money to be giving the seniors. So, that that seems good. >> Yeah. So just tracking so everybody's is
aware as we move on to the next group is um with uh full funding for the lower dollar yeses, half funding for the higher dollar yeses, and three fundings for COA, we now have $2,600 left.
The only thing I will remind everybody of is we do set aside proactively money for our own council sponsored projects. We usually do the last two years we've done the little town in Bloom. That usually does cost uh anywhere between
a,000 and $1,400. So we've set aside this past year, I think it was close to the 1400 if I recall. I can go back and look. >> But we set aside for that yet. >> So it is already proactively set aside. So like when I'm quoting you, the $2,600
that's left. Yeah. It already excludes it already has set aside $1,400 for the public art project that we would put on and then uh they they recommend a $350 administered to fee which we actually have not usually spent. Um but
that is the state recommendation is to set that money aside. Um yeah double check >> last year. So, in 2025 on the public art project, we actually ended up spending
$1,150 this past year. >> And I don't believe we're going to need to buy paint because there's a ton of paint. >> Possibly not. >> Um, and then we only spent $54 on administrative expenses. So, if we run
out of money, but we're close to the finish line, we could dip into these pots of money if we don't think we would need all of that. So, I'm just we don't need to devote on that yet. I'm just saying like there's a little bit of >> wiggle room, >> a little bit of little bit of wiggle room at the end if we have run out of
money, then we're close to finalizing our decisions, just so everybody know. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Okay. So, let me let me change my uh the screen a little bit for everyone's sake. I'm going to um flip it over to um the remaining may that we haven't talked
about yet. So, I'm going to take out the nos. I'm going to take out the yeses and I'm going to take out the maybe coas. Okay. So, these are the remaining may. So we have Actton Community Center,
Actton Community Chorus, a couple special events combating hate and justice and the Sarang colors of South Asian music, the picnic which is what we talked about a minute ago. Fishburg Art Museum, Nishova Symphonic Bands,
um a circus show sponsored by Ruben Library by Peter Canazaro. The Littleton Culture Fair at Russell Street. the Oakill project by Littleton Lysum, the Westford Chamber players, and then the Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash, which we talked about a minute. >> I thought I I'm really confused. I
thought we said no to the Oakill project. >> What number is that? >> No, we some people said no and some people uh made an argument for it, so we made it to a maybe. >> Oh, I see. I I didn't remember that. Can I suggest for two of them and like I
sing for the acting community chorus but so just putting that out there but do you think the two choruses we should just like fund similarly in like a smaller amount um since they're both like similar um things >> are you ju just to be clear are you
referring to acting community chorus and chamber players or the >> nshoba corral I think wait where's the >> corral was a yes we funded >> oh was a yes Okay, I got it. >> Yeah. >> But did we fund them like fully >> when we you
>> As of now, they are As of now, they're fully funded. So, we can go back on that decision if we're running short on money. >> Got it. >> Right now, the only ones that I've discounted is the yeses that ask for a lot. >> Got it. >> So, everyone else, the picnic, the
picnic from Andrew's thing is right here. I still believe that. I mean, it's it's too bad that they did reach out to the parks and wreck and they have no funding for this, but I I don't I don't know if I still feel like I don't know
if this is us with this event. Like, I don't know. >> Yeah, >> if we had less applicants and more funds, I would say yes. But I'm not sure it's at the high end of my may, if I could say it that way. It's probably at the low end of my maybe in terms of
preference. Yeah. I mean, I add it on my paper as a no. >> Yeah. >> No, I several of us. >> I think it >> a few of us a few of us were a yes and so we left it as a maybe, but several of us were no. >> I I have it as a maybe. >> Yeah.
>> I think that funding the um entertainment for a for this kind of a large scale event, I think it does fall under us in some ways, but I agree that the amount is not something we can give. But I mean I think because see he parks in wreck they have a line item so they
can't they don't have extra money to give to anything. They have to submit everything like a year in advance you know so there's no sort of coming to them afterwards and asking for things. So it is too bad like if they had gotten this in before the fiscal year started they probably could have >> you know gotten it. Uh but there
>> there that's that's regulated by like town budget rules like they have to itemize it in advance. So >> if only they had known the 4th of July was coming. If only they knew it was the 250th anniversary of our >> well to to Jen's point I think this is
also an like you learn and now they will know maybe they cannot have the event as they planned it this year but maybe next year they can put it in the parking w budget >> but I I mean I get that it's a it's a big anniversary >> I mean it's 250 that's why yeah and um
you know so I mean I guess >> I I don't know >> I I like the idea of I love the idea of it, too. I grew those town picnics. I really did. I grew up in the >> town does a terrible job. Like, not to be rude, but like the LA when I first
moved here, they had this like really big celebration for Fourth of July and now they don't do really much of anything. And like I wish there were more of these things in this in this town like Acting and Conquered and everybody does like such a great job, you know, and I feel like ours is like
lacking like very much so. And I feel like this is exactly the type of thing that I would want to fund. I get what you guys are saying, but um it's in town, too, versus like some of these that we see here are like not in town. >> I love the town picnic. I do. I >> know. He said
>> where I'm at where I feel like a lot of these, you know, we have funded acting community chorus for years. We have funded and and even though there are people from our town who participate in that, this is something that's actually in our town for our town. the woman who's doing the performance is a town
resident. The people planning it are all town residents. So for me, I'm not saying it's the highest of my may, but it's not the lowest. And I I mean I don't think we can give them $1,500, but I think we can give them 500. Yeah. >> Yes. I think you could give them what
are your what are your plans if we cannot fully fund you? And he said I have you know like I could go back to the Rotary but they are up to their limits. There's no plan B. So, one way I think that >> Juliana, just for just for information, the Rotary makes a great deal of money
on the iron, the triathlon, the Apple man. And it's very possible that if we give them 500 Rotary Rotary, we'd give them the other thousand. That's very >> I also think that if um if they you know if they can get some of the funding well
my suspicion is that this is a small group of people who are trying to bring this back and this is you know this is a person who has a connection with the cultural council previously so he thought let me give this a sh a shot but there's also the there was an entire committee um that I think they came on
here a year ago that is planning events for this so I think this could also help him if he's able to go to other groups and say hey I've got this amount of money from the Rotary I've 500 from the cultural council that I think he could he could >> be able to get somebody else to do it
>> considering we I hear you all and I I agree with you. Now, considering we only have like $2,000 left, I think 500 is a lot. Like I would go maybe 400 is my opinion on this >> if we were Could I could I flip this on
its head? Are there any of these like 10 or 15 that folks have a passionate yes for that you'd like to voice? cuz I this one is still stuck in maybe lands for me. And so I'm just curious like if we go through the cuz these were these all
ended up as maybe but some of you had passionate yeses for some of these like if we can convince each other some of the passionate yeses and we're out of money then we're out of money or we're not and therefore we have some luck to give >> still kind of stuck in maybe land on the picnic. >> No, I like that idea. For me, child's
play theater I have a passionate yes for. I love that it brings a lot of diversity and people. Um, so that's one for me. >> I agree. >> Me too. >> Who else has one? >> Right. >> I Okay. Are we
saying that's what they're asking for? >> We don't have to give bully this cuz I'm passionate about it. But yeah, like I >> we can we we can go back through a second time in a few minutes and cut back where we need to if we want to create money for others. So for now is
we've we've marked it in and then we've gone back and made adjustments. So I would love for us to just sort of get and say like yeses and nos without getting into the minutiae of the numbers maybe and then going back. >> Can we can we do what Ray suggested and each of us now look down at this small
list of may and see if there's something we really feel. So, I I have some on that point, I have some strong passion for the cultural fair at the elementary schools. Um, >> I got kids who just came out of those schools.
>> The programs that those schools try to put on are >> usually very well prepared and run. This one was the food truck one, which I think is why Juliana and others had a few concerns about it, but the funding for the food truck >> 3,000 did 3 thou the >> I would definitely not give the 3,000. I
would give a fraction of that. But I would give >> my only I love the idea. My only concern was is it really going to be a cultural experience through food? If so, I'm 100% in. I I just >> I mean my my personal best way of experiencing culture is through food. So
if they if they trying to if they're if they're trying to actually get culturally oriented food trucks, then my answer is absolutely yes. I think that that enhances the cultural experience. And that is what the application said is that they would be trying to get food trucks that represent a diverse set of
cultures that then the the kids and participants can try. >> Yes. And I like I'm totally in. >> So how much wasant >> how much of the 3,000 are you thinking we might give towards this cultural fair?
>> I I don't know that we could afford more than like 500 to something like that max. And I >> put 500 for now and and see what if we put 500 there for now. >> Sure. >> And see how we end up.
>> Um, so we said child's play or you have child's play theater. We said the culture fair. Any others that were a very that some of you had a passionate yes for? >> Well, are we going to put anything for the Fourth of July picnic or not?
Uh if some of you are passionate, yes, we can come back. I am passionate. I am passionate about the Fourth of July. I am too. Me too. >> Then let's then let's put a 500 there and just see how it goes. >> Just to see how it shakes down. >> Okay. Let's see how it shakes down.
>> How about these? >> 90th Regional Fritzburg Art Museum. >> I'm wondering because we are so so tight with money here. If we kind of looked at the the things that aren't as close to our town.
>> Yeah. >> For instance, >> uh Ray's all in for that. >> I would be okay for that. >> You got We got to funnel this down somehow. >> Yeah, we do. >> I'm okay with that, too. But I remember somebody bringing up last year that like
was or last session was it you Kiki that said that like the Littleton Cultural Council is put on the Fitsburg Art Museum like promotional material for the event. >> I think Sarah said that you Sarah. So like it's a great point like but I that doesn't I'm the Fitsburg Art Museum has
a lot of donors and you know >> I also feel like we have funded it the I think for the entire five years that I've been on here. So, I think it's okay to maybe skip it and say, you know, we just because we had so many applications and we were focusing on new or whatever, you know,
>> how much how Wait a minute. Quick question. How much do we donate to the Fitzure Art Museum? >> Not a lot in any given year. >> Like 100 bucks or something. >> They're asking for they're asking for 200 last year and we gave them 100. >> Yeah.
>> And I think we gave them 100 because of that because we wanted our logo to be >> our logo to be on it, right? Yeah. That's what we had said last year. >> Okay. >> Go for I'm indifferent about that. I'm not sure if that's a valuable if if having our logo is valuable or not. I
I'll have to def defer to you people with more experience. >> Well, I think when we had, you know, a little more room, then it was a good idea to say let's at least, you know, do that. But I think as we're trying to narrow down here, I'm I think it's okay to to take a break from it, you know, for for
a year. >> And that's okay. So, if we take that >> So, is are they off the list for now? >> Sorry, I didn't hear what Reverend Jen said. I feel like I don't know if everybody else is experiencing this, but I feel like there's a lot of talking over each other and it like makes my
sound cut out, so I can't really hear what people are saying. >> So, I was just Thank you, Kiki. I was just saying that if by by looking at the things that are outside of town, if that helps us immediately narrow stuff down,
then maybe that's a way to think about this. >> In terms of just being able to just take a couple things off the off the plate right away. >> So, a few of these I don't I don't remember, but definitely Fitchburg Art
Museum. I thought that um I mean Westford Chamber Players is outside of town. Um I believe Nisha Symphonic Band performs at Littleton High School. So I think that's in town.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about that. >> I think so too. Right. >> Um the picnic obviously is in town. Um Actton Community Chorus is outside of town technically. So his acting community center with child's play theater technically the
combating hate injustice was organizing an in town venue I believe was going to be the high school >> actually just as a point I just looked it up um symphonic it all performances are at NOA regional high school >> oh yeah
Bolton >> okay so that's important to note thank you >> um the combat adding Hayden Justice and the Sarang. If if you're able, Kiki, while you're doing that, let's scroll to those. But I thought I thought both of those were going to find in town venues to give the event.
>> That was I think part of their grant proposal. >> Um the Peter Canazaro Circus is at Ruben Horror, so that's definitely in town. The Littleton Lysm is definitely in town. And then the Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash was definitely in town at the library. So, so there are a few. And I
do like the idea, Reverend Jen. So Fitsburg Art Museum and the Showa Symphonic, you could say, "Well, in a in a year where we're short of funds, we're going to skip the ones that are outside of town." >> Does anyone disagree with that? >> No.
>> I can live with it. >> They're the longest distance away, so it makes sense. They don't border our town or anything either. So, >> how do we feel about the ones that do border town, which is Westford Chamber Players and Acting Community Chorus? >> I'm okay with saying no. I'm keeping to
it that that um >> language is hard. >> I I am as well. It's hard to do but I am okay with that. >> I just wanted to check because I know one of them was doing a performance at Littleton High School and I just was trying to look at which one is it.
>> Good to check. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's not Westford Chamber because I just saw that they're doing theirs at the uh Chumsford community or Chumsford whatever it is. Chumsford art thing. >> Okay. Uh, I'll look at the >> It might be the acting community course.
>> I think it is. Yeah, I'm just trying to find that. >> Um, I don't think we're doing a performance at the high school. >> Um, there are like at least 10 people from Littleton who are in the chorus though. I will I will say that. >> Yeah.
>> Is it um their performances in acting at St. Matthews? I think. Yeah. The good shepherd. Yeah. Okay. >> So, what do what do we think of that?
>> I think it's fair to say that there's so many applicants and we're going to focus on the things that are closer. >> Yeah, >> I'm okay with that. >> I am too. If we're setting that as a criteria, then let's keep >> Now, I I hate to do this, but I'm going to make us retread then on the child's
place. >> I know. >> Yeah. I'm gonna say what about that? Yeah. >> I I also want to say that on the which we already said. Yes to the the Nshoba Corral >> because they can >> Can we pull >> I thought I thought Noa Corral was the
one. Maybe that's the one that's performed in Little Performance in Littleton, don't they? >> Let me look >> here. >> I'm going to scroll down a bit to see if it jogs my memory. The Show Valley Corral the 50th anniversary
concert. No, maybe this one isn't in Littleton. Actually, now that I think about it, >> I can't even find it. Why am I Let me control >> 174. 174. >> Thank you. >> Got it. Okay.
>> But the actton, I think what we said about the actton, although it's it's also fair what Melissa just said that there's a 10 residents at least that are in the choir. I believe from from what you have talked about before there's a ton of Littleton residents that do the
play or attend that Actton theater place. So I don't know those two might have a different outcome >> and uh it's Squat and Dunible Performing Arts Center for the Nishoba Valley Corral. >> Yeah. >> All right.
>> Yeah. I mean, it is the 50th anniversary concert, so there's that to consider, too, for Nishoba Valley Corral, whereas it's not like a special concert for the Actton one, but they're both out of town. >> We're also a drop in the bucket for them. We're about 1% of their cost, so
they would probably do fine to live without us. >> Okay. >> So, that's something to think about. >> Yeah. or even just cutting it, you know, keeping them on there because >> it's giving like a hundred each or
something to leave the fair. >> That's what I was That's what I was thinking is like because I do think there are people Littleton people who are in the show valley corral as with acting community course. So maybe we drop it to like the hundred. >> Um it sounds of Stow that has um a
concert at Littleton High School. I knew there was one that like you wouldn't think it would be at Littleton, but it was. >> So, I think that's worth looking at though. I'm going to filter on the yeses for just a second. Which of these are out of town?
>> Discovery Museum is. >> Um, B Church Unarian is not. Little High School is in town. Little STEM is in town. Music Dance edu is in town. Bionic Project is in town. Nasha Players, I think, is not.
>> Not. It's not >> um Noa Valley Corral. We just talked about that one. Open door theater is not >> but we're very emphatic about that one. >> I I know. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. So, do you cut it back? It's not full funding.
>> I think we're not fully funding really anything. No. Are we? >> Well, the Discovery Museum, we were fully funding there because remember in their letter they had said how many Littleton residents had come and used that program. So even though that's not in town, they're they're tracking how
many people from Littleton use that service. So >> that discovery museum, I mean, I don't have small children, but it's too >> it's really good for to have in our community. >> Could I propose this though? Because I I do like Reverend Jen's thought. Could I
cut those in half, >> right? >> If they're not in town, even if we said yes, >> because we got to triage this somehow. Like what if we cut those in half? And the Discovery Museum has a lot of donors. >> Yeah. Yeah. I would be in favor of of
cutting Discovery Museum down to 200. >> Yeah. >> Or anything out of out of Littleton in half maybe even >> if we if we need >> Well, like this one, the show Players, we already cut that in half, but it was a large dollar amount in the first
place. So, I we can come back to that one. Open door theater, you could give 325 instead of the 750 they're asking for. Let's try it. >> Yeah, I think we should cut that one, too. >> Um, the rest of these are Oh, no
players. Oh, we just have that one. So So Derek, WE'VE DONE >> I have on my mind >> for the Shaker Lane one. I know the the PTA for Shaker Lane. I I'm not in that school, so I'm not 100% certain, but I
heard that they had this color run or something like the kids ran and they raised a ton amount of money, like 40,000 something. And so I'm wondering if the PTA cannot cover that with all those funds,
>> you know, but I don't know. I think we have to be careful. Yeah, you have to vote on the sub. Yeah. We have to just go with what the information they've submitted to us and be careful about sort of because that kind of gets into this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And also somewhat conflicts of
like having information that's not been provided here. You know, you have to sort of keep outside of your mind. >> Yeah. If we want clarification, if we want to go back to them and ask them that question, that's fine. But like yeah, we can't >> guess. If I may, we're we're making good progress. Could I filter on just the ones where there's a blank? meaning like
we haven't really made a clear decision either way to just see what passion people have for those because then we can still go back and tweak numbers. >> We're still not putting anything in for the for the town the town fourth of July. >> No, we did we put $500 into that. >> No, we did.
>> Is there Oh, okay. I'm sorry. You're correct. >> Um, so let me let me let me just do this just for sake of what we're doing here. So, I'll still take out the nose. Um, but then I'm going to filter this on just the blanks. Okay.
>> So, we're down we're down to not many blanks where we just haven't made a clear decision either way. So, if you look at this list, are there any passionate yeses or nos left on this list in terms of definitely zero or definitely something? >> Can you guys remind me about the Lysm
project? Because I completely I feel like I had a decision last time and now I don't remember what I did. So that's the ladies slippers where they have the um it's like sort of like journals and drawings and things about
the lady slipper and like all of the sort of >> how it's local and it's only in this area. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I I like the one from the library, the the circus one. I think the library does amazing
events and I would I I would be strong in supporting the library. >> Peter Kosaro that it's the event >> for the end of summer read of the summer reading program. So when summer reading's over then that's the kind of big celebration event
that >> it's just the entertainment purpose portion of it. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> I would love to support that. What if we put in a half number for that for now just to >> I'll put in half for now just we can come back but
>> I'm okay to put in some money on definitely. Um, any other folks are uh strong, yeah, we need to give them something at least. Any of these others that you see? Plenty of people had some passion on the combating hate and justice one. I
remember from last month, Sarang, I thought we were all in a little bit of a maybe zone on that one, but there was some good feelings. >> That was a maybe on that one was a definite maybe on me. >> Can you what the hate and prejudice was? Was that in the school? I don't remember. >> That was the one where I was at the
school. I think the reason why it was a it was a passionate yes for several. I think I was one of the may because it felt to me more like a lecture series that you would fund a different way then versus through the culture council. But we had several people here who felt passionately yes on that one. >> It's at Littleton High School. It's an
inschool program at the high school. Um it's the Holocaust survivor. >> Oh yes. kind of dangerous. >> I remember I still feel strongly about that one >> and every I think everybody said I would want to go there, right? They said this is the last opportunity. Maybe I I think
we should support that one. >> I think the maybe I think the maybe on it was that the entire thing is just paying only her to come, >> right? >> Um you know, so it's not like there's other um but she did say her name's Miss
Applefield. Miss Applefield will request additional funding as a donation from the school and or will self-fund and she did apply to like 20 other cultural councils as well. >> I think we could give her going to their school systems. Yeah.
>> Right. Yeah. >> I think we should definitely fund it and maybe give her like half for now. Yeah. >> Yeah. I agree. >> I'll mark half for now and then we can come back to it. >> Okay. Um the budget wrong. Just as an FYI, they just yesterday sent their
final one from last year because we funded them 750 last year. >> Yeah. >> And uh they had 50 people, 50 adults, five children, and three artists. >> That's pretty good. It's pretty well attended.
>> It was at the library last year. Um >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I'm just saying it had it was well attended last year when they did it. Can can I ask a question not to go back to this lady slipper thing, but I was just reading it over again and I think
at first I was kind of on the side that like this is this is cool. This is a different way of looking at culture. But now reading it over again, I don't know that that would be our part of our mission. >> That was >> to me it felt like like a Littleton Hiking Society type of thing or
something like that. Like that that one I was mostly a no on but I wasn't. >> I wasn't. I was I was a no. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I get that there was journals and there was a presentation and but I think we could be okay to say no.
>> Hey, I have a question. And on these blanks we have maybe COA. Shouldn't we just put no on those cuz we or or no? Sorry. >> Here. I'll just I'll just take them off filter because we we said we'd go back to COA as a group at the end. >> Okay. But I think a lot
>> and before we finish >> you'll because I want to type my notes into those to say like what what we'll tell them. >> Say that again. >> Okay. So we're saying no for the lysum. >> Is everybody okay with that? That's just my opinion. I don't want to you know
>> I agree but what do other people think? >> I'm okay. I don't have any passion. I don't have I don't have passion on them. >> Let's say no. I'm >> with it. So now you're down to Sarang and then the Bob Dylan Johnny Cash by Matt York.
Um, >> and how much money? Sorry, it's 1,000. Okay. >> Yeah, Surang is a lot. And we did have that funds available this past year that we gave. >> If we did it if we did it last year, do we do the same thing every year or I don't know. We have plenty of repeat
applicants that do similar or even exactly the same programs and we do have a track record of giving some of them the same you know additional funds year after year because the programs are wellreceived and meet the criteria of the council. >> Yeah. So she um it's >> different artists. So it's like the
Sarang is sort of a overarching um I think thing about Indian music but it looks like there's different artists and guest performers. So I think the concert itself would be different than last year. Yeah, >> there's a a good population of Indian in Littleton, right? I would say absolutely
yes to that. >> And the temple is >> well attended. >> And the temple's right up the road in the Grten line, too. So, they might even pull in people that attend the temple that don't live. >> Yeah, I I would love to support that. >> Yeah. >> Do we do like
>> Yeah, I wouldn't be into supporting the whole because it does say like they have funds for space. >> Not everything. Not not the whole amount, but we've done >> Well, how about 250? >> Why not stick at half like we've done for others? >> Yeah, we gave them 750 last year, so
>> Oh, did we? >> Maybe 500. We'll just plug it in for now. >> Let's plug in 500. And we're we're about to come back to all the ones and adjust the final levels. So, and then I I do I I've not been to any of Matt Yorks, but they've always gotten good feedback. We
funded him for several years in a row. So, I would be in favor of giving him something, but maybe not everything he's asking for. >> I agree. >> I think that it's um and I think that this is one of the first times he's been doing something that's outside of the
COA, so he's kind of broadening his Yeah, me too. So, I definitely want to support something there. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, if if I may, I'm gonna back us up now. um and try to uh let's see what
we can do to synthesize things a little bit here. Um so um I'm still going to strike off the nose. I'm not going to have us go back to that decision process. But now let's look at
Okay, so this is this is what we've got and we're we're actually now short. I mean, sorry, we now are below our max by about $700. >> So, we have a little room to give more by either adding a few more recipients
or by upping the dollar amount on a few recipients if we choose. Um, >> can we talk about these two blank and the amount? >> So, sorry, I had a few people talking at once there. >> Oh, so
>> I was just saying, can we can we talk about these two blank ones and just sort of make a decision here? >> Sure. I'd be okay with a no for both. >> Yeah, same here. >> Yeah. I that just kind of knocks that out of the >> what I was saying is that I I feel
personally comfortable with what we've said we're going to fund and what we said we're not going to fund and I would personally prefer to give more money to those that we can and that we're very passionate about other than giving a little bit to others. That's my personal opinion.
>> Yeah, I agree with that. Um, just looking down below, um, we gave a $100 to the Noba Valley Corral. I just wanted to see if did we do that for acting community as well. I didn't see it. So, I just wondered if I just missed it or if we decided against it.
>> We said uh no to acting community course because it was outside of the town. Um but yeah, Noba Valley Corral is also Yeah, >> I think because Valley Corral in their application specifically mentioned how many people from Littleton were involved
with it >> whereas the other one didn't. I mean that was my kind of in my mind. >> However, the performance of both is not in the true >> right >> so we're being strict about that filter criteria then
>> we don't have to be strict about it but that would be one way of looking at Yeah. I mean, I feel comfortable with the decisions that we've made, but I mean, I'm obviously open to hearing other thoughts. >> Yeah. I just want to stay consistent um
with that, but I I don't again like I should probably not be since I'm like, you know, biased. >> True. >> How much was How much was acting community course asking for? >> I think I think it was 500. >> Are you a member of the of the acting
community course? Okay. I am. Yep. >> They were asking for 550. >> I'm just saying if we're not going to fund them, maybe not fund Nutro Valley Corral unless we think that the sticking point is that they included the fact that there's um
>> I don't I don't have an issue with $100 for action community chorus and then we can balance out the rest. >> Like I I know that we're breaking our own rule on in a town out of town or I'd be okay to just say zero for Nisha Valley Corral. Yeah, either way I think would be fair.
>> I think I think Melissa the reason that we said no to the Actton and $100 for Nishoba was the 50th anniversary piece. That's what sort of distinguished it as separate from Actton. >> Okay. >> That was my that was my understanding.
Maybe stuff up. I do that. Um >> No, that was >> No, I brought that up. Yeah, I I did bring that up. Yeah, that they're but I wasn't sure if we like deliberate officially on both. I just want to stay consistent and I don't care either way if we think that Noba Valley Corral is
more well attended or uh by residents or like if we want to may say that it's because it's their 50th anniversary. Either way is is fine. >> Okay. Um, so are there any of these where folks
have a passion to adjust it up to give more to any of these programs? >> What did we decide about the belly dancing? Did we fully fund that? >> As of now, we fully funded it. >> Okay. That was the only one I was really
excited about >> cuz nothing says cultural council like seniors belly dancing. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Uh yeah. >> Um >> um I'm always a sucker for the school programs. So I would if it were only Rey, I would give the remaining balance
to all the school programs. But I'm only one voice here. >> I am absolutely in favor of that. >> I am too. >> The children are the future. So >> that's right. Invest in them. >> Um now I just got to think about which
one of these would be a school program. I guess it would be I'm trying to highlight on the screen this one >> street if we look at the Russell Street Cultural Fair that's the one school program we've given the least to like the others we you know the bionic project we've given 1,200 like I mean a
percentage wise >> right yeah >> you know like they're asking for 300 and given them 500 but with the others we've given them you know a higher percentage so that that'd be my first place to go I hear the concerns about because I I am a
little worried about the application kind of says this is what we're thinking about doing but we haven't actually you know done any of the work for it but I guess I think also I feel like the PTA is going to get it done. I'm sure that there are plenty of cultural food trucks that they will be able to engage with.
So I'm not so worried that they won't be able to get get those you know. >> Well and I think the thing where it's like they don't have it planned yet. The answer is they do have the culture fair planned. I think it's more a matter of would they plan for this extra feature >> and I think they can't tell us we've got
empa yeah they can't say we got empanada data we've got all these ones exactly lined up but I think that that's I don't think that they need that for the application to say specifics they're saying this is what our focus is and of course as as we should always be looking at when we get the final report with all
the receipts we would be very easily able to see if they didn't use it on that >> you know >> yeah How sorry how much money do we have left to give? >> 73847 >> 73847 unless we want to adjust the public art
or admin budgets. So as it stands now $738 >> for the admin budget. I mean >> we do have to pay um and maybe it just hasn't come out yet. I was surprised it was only $54 cuz there are these fees for the Google thing that come um
>> forgot to ask for reimbursement for a couple years on that thing. >> Yeah, there's actually I'm fine with it to be honest. >> There's one that's going to a card that I can't figure out whose it is and I've asked like mine. >> Oh, no. I asked you and it wasn't yours. >> Oh, maybe it's online. Oh, okay. All right.
>> I asked Eric. I think it's some former person who's just giving us that donation. But my point is I think we could bring that to $100 safely >> if people feel and that would give us another 250 to put into this pot. >> Did we buy the tent? >> Yeah.
>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I thought that got processed in the prior. >> It did get processed. Yeah. Melissa, you got the reimbursement for that, right? >> I think so. >> We can look at the ledger. You want me to look at it?
I don't know. >> Um, that's why I'm not your treasurer. >> I'd be I'd be in favor of giving the culture fair a thousand versus 500. >> Yeah. Same. >> Yeah.
>> And and reducing the admin down to 100 from 350 to kind of give a little extra >> and and then the rest. Is there any rest we could do to the middle school and the high school split halfways? >> Let's see what's left. Let's see. So,
we've got We still have 48847 left. >> Yeah. So, you got like two under 220 two to 250 left to distribute. >> I I know the there was the bionic and the what was the high school one? The hate.
>> The racism one. >> Yeah, the combating hate. I mean, yeah, it we can >> So, that one I wouldn't change to be honest cuz I think she can, you know, like help us out. >> I agree. I agree. >> But then give it to the >> Bionic Project.
>> You can make it 1500 for Bionic. >> Yeah. >> Um, okay. 230 left, which we don't need to end right when the money runs out, but like that any others that folks feel passionate
about increasing could give more of the town picnic. You could do 750. >> Yeah. >> Okay, that'd be nice. >> Yeah, that'd be nice. >> All right, now we're in the red, but only by a tiny bit. >> Yeah, but we can make that up in the in
the public art. You know, I don't know that we're going to use 1,400. >> I don't think we are because we're I think we're only buying the wood. >> Yeah. With the paint, it's all set. If you were saying >> the wood was not very expensive. I don't remember it being very expensive. >> You took care of that really well, Juliana.
>> Oh, thank you. Thank you. >> So nice. >> So, let's say let's say I move that to 1,200. So, now you still actually have 188 left. If there's any places where we want to top them up, >> can you move? >> Thanks.
>> What? >> Well, do we want to Melissa, you need to recuse yourself from this conversation? Do we want to give that a $100 to Actton since we do have >> I would be in favor of that. Yes.
>> Yeah, that's great. >> I'd be okay with that. We've given them grants for many years. Yes. Cool. >> Yeah, let's do it. Thank you guys. >> Let me just flip this around. Might be 100. Okay.
>> $88 left. And then to Julie Juliana's point, do we want to talk about how much the paint cost us last year and subtract that out and maybe try and put more money towards something that we feel passionate about?
>> Well, hang on though. 1100 gets us the same amount of new material that we had last year in terms of both paint and wood. >> Maybe I'm just getting >> how many we are going to do this year, right? Because we've said that we wanted to maybe expand to other people. Like I don't know if I would take out from
there. I love I love the idea of doing more and more of these every year as long as the town has appetite to paint them. I love putting out as many as we can because to me it's turned into a really nice public art project which is actually doable agreed upon by the town and people
participate in them. I'm like this is >> we could also expand our locations a little because we did sort of have smaller in small other places but we could really kind of build those. So, I wouldn't want to take too much out of out of that. But also, we don't know what else might come up. We may come up with another idea, too, you know.
>> That's true. That's true. >> I I wouldn't take money out of that. That was I thought that was a good thing. >> Yeah, it was really good. >> I think we're good and tired. >> I look I'm okay to leave the 88. It's less than $100.
>> You can pop it back up into the admin budget, too, because we don't know. >> Yeah. It's not use it or lose. It's not use it or lose it, by the way. So, like there's no there's no risk. >> So, you There you go. You chalk it up to the admin. >> If we don't spend it, rolls over to the
next year and that's that. >> Okay. >> Good job. >> Could we do Could we just do a quick I know I know I know it is uh getting late, but could we just do a quick check here? I just want to Give me one second. I'm just doing some
spreadsheet magic. Yay. Hey, >> turn those all the yeses. >> Turn those frowns upside down. >> No. Okay. Um, I know it's a little hard to
do, but if I could just recommend a silent scroll and people just take a quick look and make sure you don't have any final averse reactions to some of the decisions that we're making here because we do need to vote before we conclude for tonight. >> Yes, we'll have to do an official vote.
So, just tell me when everybody has read down to the bottom of the screen so far. And I'll scroll down, but I'll skip a moment. >> This is everything, right? This is no filters. >> This is no filter. So, you see the yeses and the nos. And I mean, the may are going to go away now, but I'll leave them there for just point of reference.
And then when everyone's read down to item number 17, I'll scroll down to the second part. >> Good. Okay, >> I'm good. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yep. Everybody good?
>> Yeah. >> Okay. I'm going to move it down. So, now we're uh we're at 18 and below. Yeah, I'm good. >> Okay.
>> Yes. Mhm. >> Okay, everybody. Everybody done? >> Yeah. >> All right. And then there's just a few final ones at the bottom. Starting with number 35. >> I'm good. >> Yep. Me, too.
Can I make a motion then that we accept these decisions as printed in the spreadsheet? >> Yes. Second. >> All right. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I >> All right.
Can you filter the yeses so we can I can just see um >> how many we did. So we did a total of 22 yeses out of 41 applicants. So
approximately half. >> That's pretty good. >> All right. >> A little over half. >> Um for the So uh I know it's late. I know we're almost done. Are are there any
nos where someone has a passionate desire to be the one to write up a little bit of the feedback? I know Kiki, you've tried to take plenty of notes, but if I could just flash the nose on the screen briefly. >> Can I just ask about there was one like um that said give feedback the Hoffenber
Bavarians. Um, I don't know if we might just take one minute to look at your notes and give a because I don't remember why we gave an automatic note of that. Just so I can put something in there. >> Um, >> and the other one too.
>> Yeah. Uh, I thought that that one was a bit more focused on entertainment where it would be better as like a parks and wrecks type funded thing. Guys, please correct me if I'm wrong. That's my recollection of that. And I and I'm not sure they had
clear venues and things pegged out. It was more like a almost a choose your own adventure grant application. It's like that that's not how this works. You have to have something specific lined up. >> What number is it? >> Number 34. >> 33. If you're looking at the digital one,
>> so what I have in my note is, is there a venue? As I understand it, this could be an addition to the parks and wreck event. could they maybe be interested in? That's what I have in >> that was my recollection as well. >> Summer concert series or specified venue is what they wrote,
>> right? It wasn't clear. >> Wasn't clear. >> All right. >> And then that they wanted to work with us uh for an alternative like we the question asked like you know if um if we don't approve like the they were basically like oh work with the
Littleton Cultural Council to >> come up. That was the one where they kind of thought that we would pick it for them. Like they kind of didn't didn't understand the assignment a little bit. Okay. And then the ball in the house was the other one that was sort of an abs that was a no that I was trying to get.
>> So the the feedback we had on that one is it was uh appeared to be duplicative to other >> it was the same as and now I see race racism in American music. That's what it was. >> Yeah. So you had two two grand applications for the same event. >> Same program. Okay. Two applications.
one from the music association and one from the what PT was the other one from >> Yeah. And so the response there is is like if it was an accident, no worries, your program is still funded. If it wasn't an accident, maybe please coordinate and not submit the same request for the for duplicative money
because what if we weren't smart enough and we accidentally funded you both? That's not a >> get double money. And they're they're they're a new uh association this year, the music association, so they're probably just trying to figure stuff out. >> Fine. No worries. But that's why this feedback would be good. >> Totally.
>> Totally. No, they need >> I just wanted to get a couple of like little notes in there so we could refresh our memories. >> Yeah. >> Okay, perfect. >> Um, so just as like anformational point, our next meeting is before these are due into the system. So we would have
another scheduled meeting to actually talk about specifics about who wants to say and you can't you you don't send the letters until after that appeals process is done too. So, we would have we will have another meeting where we could get into the nitty-gritty of like who wants to give the feedback and what would it
be just as a just as an FYI. >> I think that's good because I really need to go. My nephew's birthday is today and we're they're waiting for me to sing happy birthday. They're involved in >> go. >> Thank you so much. Thank you everybody. >> Merry Merry Christmas everybody.
>> Oh yes. >> So when is our next meeting? >> It is on January 13th. >> Okay. Well, then we'll see you in the new year. Happy Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone. >> You too. >> Yeah. So, I think you're right, Kiki,
that we could probably leave the deliberations for um the feedback, like what we might want to say in the feedback for that meeting as like a line item in the agenda. And I know traditionally Sarah has been the one to go in and actually update the um the
system with everything. Can we do that at that meeting too real time or is that too time consuming doing things? >> I I was going to say is the deadline was isn't it the 16th of January? When is it the deadline? >> 16th. Yeah, the 16th. >> So my one caution of waiting to the
meeting is it actually is a couple hours worth of work to put everything into this. Like I comment I've never done it, but I've heard the comment in the past that it takes a while to update the system for all this stuff. So >> yeah, I'm not Yeah, I was going to say I'm not suggesting we don't wait for the system. I'm suggesting about giving the people
actual feedback where we would be writing them something because in the system you could only choose like two drop downs. >> So I know we were talking about who who would want to like who would want to send an email to B to Littleton Music Association and say hey you guys should coordinate. I think we would be able to
have that because we can't send any of that stuff until after the appeal time comes back from January 16th. So, we would have time, >> but I completely agree that the actual putting it in the system needs to be done in between. >> So, I I might be in favor of we move
forward with the uh online portal next steps, which Sarah has offered to do, and I feel fine to take her up on that. give her the go-ahad to take all the necessary next steps to log our decisions in the system. Then we meet in January, conclude on any
specific feedback we want to give and then we would give that at the same time as the letters go out, which is after decisions have been communicated because the decision gets communicated through the portal, not through the letter, right? The letter is after the decision has already been communicated. So it's almost a two-step communication. Hey,
you were approved or not, you now have an appeal period. deal period has ended. Here's your letter. If you were a yes, here's your process you where you get funding. >> Yeah, that's correct. >> So, so I' I'd be in favor of and I think this was the the vote we just gave is Sarah can go ahead with the portal
updates now or as soon as she would like, I would argue. >> Yeah, I agree. >> Is there any issue with that from the group? >> No. >> Okay. So then we can do that and then
reconvene in January to see if there's any final communication we want to assemble for some of these parties and then we're done with the cycle or well we're done except for giving out the letters which is >> right and we do I know I put it I did
put a note in there that they in 2025 they updated the form so we no longer need two signatures so we just need to make sure that when we are sending out the communication we're using the updated uh forms. Oh, >> so now it has Yeah, it has one one approval signature and one reviewer
signature. >> Okay. >> So, it kind of will streamline the process a little bit. Um, >> and that's the one that the people download because we did get a couple of those this year from people who must have lost their initial email and downloaded right from that's how I noticed it because I was like, wait a minute, what is this? Why does this look different? Yeah,
>> I did download them all and drop them into the drive so they all are all ready to go. Okay. Should we? >> Was there anything else we needed to cover or >> I was gonna say I think I should one of
I can shoot her an email. We should officially send an email to Sarah telling her like, "Hey, this is all set. You're ready to go in by the 13th and like do it." So, I can send her an email on that. Um, and she has access to this spreadsheet on the drive anyway, right?
>> Yes. Yeah. >> So, the only thing is she would have to pick the drop downs for the nose of which one she felt like went with it. I if I get a minute, I might look to see what the choices are to try and tailor the notes to match that better because I can't remember now.
>> Yeah, I don't remember them either. Um >> I know I had them somewhere that she had sent an email, but I I can't find it at 9:00 p.m. because my brain doesn't work so good. But I'll try to do that in the next couple days. >> Oh, you want you want to take that on, Kiki? Are you sure? Yeah, I'll try to find them and then I'll update those what I typed in there so it matches a
little better. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you for offering. That's good. And then we'll like you said if any ones that we think we'd like to send extra feedback to, we can talk about on our next meeting. Um does anybody have any other business they want to bring up before we like
officially close out this session? >> Nope. I'm toast. >> Me too. >> Me too. >> Yeah. Well, thank you everybody for all your hard work and um I will see you
>> Yes, absolutely. I I second it. >> Thank you. >> Happy holidays everybody. >> Happy holidays everybody. >> Safe and healthy.