Okay, this is the meeting of the Littleton Historical Commission. Um, November 12th, 7:00 p.m. 7:10 p.m. Um, we have Warham uh Chris isn't coming because he had to
pick up his son, but he's going to send in information about the plaques, I think. So, when we get to that, we'll see. So, um, I think I'm going to start with administrative things. Um, there are a few member updates. One is um at
12 Robinson Road. The sign that the historic sign that Chris made, the wooden sign is up. It looks really good. Um and then a few of us had anformational meeting with the owners and tenants of um 12 Robinson Road a
couple of weeks ago about the preservation restriction. And do you want to say how it was or do you want me to >> Oh, sure. Yeah. Um, so the uh when we first arrived, we went to the uh meet with the tenants and uh
Joe Catelo's uh Ryan who's his uh >> project manager >> project manager. Um, and I I think that um uh the the family had
a a lot of questions um about the tenant uh and and her husband um had a lot of questions uh >> so they are living in the main house. >> They are renting but the tenant lives to the car. >> They're renting the main house. Lots of
questions about the process about the deed restrictions in general. um stating that they they moved from Maryland, they've lived in previous historic homes, but uh never recounted any sort of the the restrictions. So, I think they were really kind of surprised,
maybe taken back. Um I think uh Shanti, who was with us, did a really good job of just sort of walking them through the the basis of why this existed. Um, and so I think uh it ended up uh turning out
okay. Um, >> so the reason you're wondering why she was the tenant was even Yeah. >> Well, yeah. I mean, I I guess a little bit of like No, I mean it's great. Good that they wanted to be informed and everything, but yeah, it's like when you're a tenant, you're not really going to >> She I guess her family was is thinking
of maybe buying it, which is why they were so interested and she was a little put off by hearing that if there's any structural issues that the owner has to pay for those
>> um repairs. >> I think also the the u fact that there's an an annual tour or annual inspection inside of the home was something she wasn't comfortable with.
>> Right. Um he's familiar I think with historic districts where they just look at the outside of the home. length of the lead. I mean, usually historic districts only cover the outside, right? >> So, that's what she was familiar with and she was like, why come inside? But
that's different than the preservation restriction that ours does cover certain interior elements. So, >> it was it was a lively conversation. It was um I think she asked very good questions. Um and uh and I think that uh
those in attendance uh did a very good job representing the reason for our visit and why we were there to orient her on the process and and Ryan and her husband showed up a little bit later. So I think it was all
said a uh successful visit though I'm not sure that she will move forward with purchasing the property uh after the conversation >> and then then we met with the second guy who lives in the barn. He owns the barn. >> Yes. >> And that was a whole different
conversation. >> Yes. So his uh he's a young gentleman um maybe a few years out of college. I think his roommate and his girlfriend may still be in college. I'm not sure. They seemed like they were studying. Um but um his grandfather was a historical
preservationist >> and apparently a very famous one who Shanti our consultant knew. >> Oh for goodness sakes. >> Just a coincidence and she was very impressed that that was this guy's grandfather. >> You remember the name?
>> No. Oh what um what was what was his name? >> It was in Maine though, >> right? But he has the same name as his grandfather probably. Yeah. I don't know. I don't remember. But um this guy was very familiar with historic preservation. He had worked with his
grandfather and he was very pro- historic preservation. So it was a very interesting conversation. Right. >> That's very interesting. though in other ways it was kind of interesting because he was totally on board totally supported us and then at the kind of end
he kind of did the zinger and he said well you know this base was completely reconstructed and that historical beam is actually a faux beam it's displaced there so that's not a structural element and as a matter of fact all the structural elements are covered up so technically you can only expect from the outside in 5 or 10 years when this may
be an issue like he kind of you know he was he was good He got us. But what what Shanti explained to him is that if there's any structural issues happening inside that we we want to look at that, make sure there's no structural issues
happening in the interior. Yeah. >> So anyway, that was a good visit. I think it was I think it was a good visit and uh I uh thought it was also good because while it is indeed that his property
may be the lowest concern for compliance compared to the main house, I I got the sense that he could very well end up being the head of the HOA because he seems like he's kind of a go forward engaged uh you know active person. Uh
and then also uh if we need another commission member uh he may be a very good in town choice since he seems to have a a personal interest in history. That would be great. >> Good point. Um >> so we did some recruiting.
>> Yeah, I think you mentioned something to >> I totally did. I said, "Yeah, you'd be great on that. If we had a spot, you'd be great to try." >> Well, I only have a less than a year left. No, >> we don't want to hear that. >> I'm an old man, you know.
>> But you're so good at that. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Um, so then we also >> older than Biden. >> What? >> Yeah. Older than >> um we also went to the first uh Baptist. Yes. First Baptist church. Andrew and I
and Shanti. Was there anyone else there? >> The woman uh the woman was Christian. No, no, no. >> Chris was not there. >> Oh, Chris was at the 12 Robinson Road in Spect >> and um I think you've been away, but I don't know how much you know, but the First Baptist Church, it's in the middle
of town. It's the big white church. >> I was here for this meeting. I missed last month. >> Yeah. Okay. So, they are going to they're going to they think they're going to sell the church because they can't afford to keep it. So, they're trying to figure out their options. So, we wanted to go look at it. Um and so
one of the women from the church led us around. She was very nice. We looked in the in at the interior, Shanti, and we identified historically significant what we believe are historically significant elements inside in the interior and the exterior.
Um so that was good meeting. Was this the one with the stained glass windows that were >> that were I know there was some talk of like that maybe going to the historicals inside maybe >> if they were going >> if they were going anywhere. Yeah,
>> she did mention that actually. I meant to mention that to you but I forgot. >> Well, they were they were CPA, weren't they? Weren't they CPA? >> Yeah, that was the bell tower. >> CPA bell tower CPA. >> But there was some like historic significance to the windows. They're
like worthund like they were insured for >> like a long time ago they were insured. >> If they were offered up that you would definitely >> Yeah. I mean I wouldn't want them to Yeah. go anywhere. >> Yeah. There were some of those I forgot which ones they were but um had historical figures on the stainless >> people like Yeah. Dead counts people.
>> Yeah. I think so. >> I think that's what it was. Don't quite remember. >> Yeah. With Dodge's name on it. flag. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. They also found some art uh in their wreck room that appeared to um
represent old parishioners that were of town significance, though we didn't really know who they were. >> Yeah. Carolyn Society might know. >> Indeed. Indeed. Um and then I think what I took out of it was u there's some some
challenges which is the the building appears to have been raised. >> So the first floor is really the second floor. Um and then the whole outside of it is vinyl clad. So it's not sort of
>> um you get into that sort of historical fabric conversation. Um, and then Shanti kind of had some concerns that while it's clad, uh, because there's some deterioration, there could be water getting in behind the vinyl siding and
affecting the the original wooden clap boards. So, um, yeah, but it does look like I guess it was probably built without a foundation and then raised to put a foundation underneath it.
So, >> so and and so one thing that was mentioned uh I forget her name, I'm sorry, but um woman from the church, they would like to be in touch with some nonprofits. She's they're already in touch with
other churches that might who knows coordinate with them, but they'd like to be in touch with some nonprofits who also might be interested in coordinating with them. So, you know, I said, "Well, we'll try to get some information to you." But, you know,
I think I sent I sent an email to the select board letting them know that she was interested in that information. Um, >> it might be good to >> to suggest that they could talk to people who have,
you know, who have uh, you know, re should I say repurposed old churches in, you know, in various uh, places around it. Certainly I mean it's it's hard to do but you know just in this area there
are a number of things which have number of effort that a number of people who've done that you know and very successfully >> right we talked about it at our last meeting or two >> some of those things so yes that's definitely a good idea
>> there's the batist gallery in in Grten there's that uh what do they call it again the uh >> oh in Westford >> Parish Center in Westford. I guess um you know it's it's it's hard though. I
mean I I take it you get the right person it can be a great a great you know a great possibility but because the buildings are old and interesting and >> unusual but you know they're not easy
always to >> figure out how you how you make something of them. >> Right. But I think that's a great idea that that they could talk to those people. I I'll let her know. >> Yeah, I was going to say I I got the um >> so I you know I tend to ask more of the
structural questions. So the woman who gave us the tour was one of the three officers of the church. There are uh she plays the role of the chief financial officer. Um and they've already hired uh
a real estate uh person and a lawyer. Um, and the real estate person kind of suggested that they approach also other churches like in the Boston area that are parishers without a church, which you know, I guess that's a big thing.
Uh, and then they were kind of open to the, you know, repurposing or >> but but at the end of the day, they they are in a divevest mindset. Um, so >> yeah. Um, >> do they have a timeline of when they'd
like to? Yes, approximately one year. >> Okay. So, long term. >> Yeah. And uh and it sounds like they're they're also needing to decide the future of their church corporation. And I think that has a tremendous bearing because uh it sounds like, you know,
once once they they devest to the property, then they become basically a virtual church. And so, uh they'll need to continue to operate and have membership and all the things. So, so they'd be looking, I think, to divest for income, right, to keep that afloat.
However, she also mentioned that the the parish is older, that they're sort of uh less members. And so, one of the things they had kind of talked about was dissolving the corporation. And so that's an interesting thing because technically uh if you dissolve the
corporation then you know you don't really need proceeds from your property because you're dissolving your corporation. So uh in that case I think um you may you may see uh potentially you know a lowcost transaction with the
town or with a nonprofit or something like that. I see >> that's up to them. >> Yeah. >> H that's interesting. Did we go over this before? Is there like they're It's Baptist, right? >> Baptist. >> Yes. >> Did we go Is there like a I feel like we
talked about this last time and I can't remember, but is there like a national >> Oh, yeah. Question. >> Yeah. >> British Baptist Society, I think. Well, because I had asked him about the records and he said those would be
transferred to the American Baptist Society or something like that. I know the congregational church is similar too. There's like an overall council that they would do. So I kind of assume that's the same thing. >> So that would be like like there would be their archives would go off.
>> I understand it. I mean there several Baptist organizations in the United States that have lots and lots of members. Baptists like I believe the congregationalists and the unarians. It's basically the local
the local church that's that owns the property and is the is the church unlike say Catholics where >> where the churches are owned by the dasis or >> you know whatever >> they have a much larger infrastructure. Yeah. But these are the Baptists
certainly have a very long tradition of each one is individual and they run themselves and >> I was going to say the impression this uh um CFO gave us >> right so I would have just said you know it go back to a dascese or some kind of
that's >> yeah disclosed they go back to overarching corporation that's oversees all of them or if they have some kind of archives or like I feel like there's yeah if some of the records will go somewhere sort of
central >> but I do feel like yeah most most denominations have some kind of a >> central >> right but he's saying they the local may
not be that are very local or very independent unlike some churches which are more >> anyone has I've told anyone yet. Um I got a email from Ryan um Joe Cataldo's
project manager and he asked us the commission to look at a house 359 King Street. It's it's a it's a pretty iconic house on King Street. She's got a big barn with windows, sort of horizontal
glass panes. It's like 16 across or something windows. Um that house >> he's got the owner wants to um renovate the house. He wants to do a historic renovation, which is
great. He was there at this meeting. So Stronty and I went over this. He contacted me like the last minute. So, I just Shanti and I just went over there. Uh, the owner was there wants to do historic renovation. Um, Ryan was there and Shanti and I and
so we walked through and Shanti gave them her advice as to what she thought should possibly be preserved. You know, that we don't have a preservation restriction or anything. And, you know, we let them know that. Um, but the owner does seem like he does want to do a
fairly historic preservation. So, that's good. >> That's really great. Yeah. >> And and he's he may be considering hiring Matalo or Ryan. >> Yes. Yes. To do it. I think Yes. They may already be hired in that.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. So, >> to a two family, right? >> I think so. You probably >> It's on the planning board. >> Oh, it is. Okay. Two family. Yeah. I can't remember now. >> This is the one that has the little like farm behind it. >> Yes. Yeah, it was three. They called it
farm 359. >> Yes. So, they're gone, I guess. >> Oh, really? >> I believe they're gone. They were renting it, I guess, and they moved out. So, it's empty now. We went through, it was empty. >> Um, but yes, that's where the farm was. Little farm. >> So, at least that's a house that is
going to be saved to some degree at least. So, >> would they be interested in putting it under a uh deed restriction? >> Don't know. >> They can choose. An owner can freely choose to do that. Yeah. Uh, I can talk to them about that.
>> I think there was some challenges um, you know, that Ryan and the owner identified. So, I'm not sure, but >> yeah. Well, I I would approach it this way, like say, "Hey, you know, you guys could choose to do a historic deed restriction and >> you're you're doing a historic
renovation." >> And so, this would be your way to kind of making sure that as you rehabilitate these historic features that they're preserved forever, basically, even to future owners, >> right? >> Um, and my thought would be like they're
proactively reaching out to you. Yes, >> if we could potentially proactively get a historic deed restriction, then, you know, we could work with them as opposed to how we come in now, which is we're trying to save. Whereas, if
they're open to it, um, you know, they they can help tell us what what they want to save and we can use our mechanism to to do that. >> That's a great idea. Yeah. If they were interested or even only
somewhat interested, you could connect them to Reed Oier because >> he did it. >> He's done that. >> Or our new friend Robinson Road. >> What? >> Our new friend at Robinson Road.
>> Well, he's already That's the project manager. >> No, the guy. >> The guy. >> Oh, the new guy. Oh. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Right. Right. Right. >> Bought a property with a historic deed restriction. >> Right. >> Yeah. And you know if they would decide to do a preservation, this commission
could be the holder of the restriction because it's private property. >> That's correct. That is correct. So we could avoid them significant financial problems. >> Yeah, >> that's a good idea. I'll talk to them or send them an email. >> Um,
so was anyone here, Carolyn, or anyone did did any of you go to the orchard open house a couple of weeks? Oh man, I forgot all about it. I'm so mad. >> Nobody. >> I want the guy's email cuz I I'll email him and be like, "Hey, I forgot and I
want to come over and say hi." >> Oh, well, that's too bad because I was really eager to hear about it. I couldn't go. I had another engagement at that day, so I couldn't go. >> I think they're cutting down some of the trees. >> That's not a surprise. That's in his plan.
>> His plan is on the um on the website, I think. >> Oh, >> yeah. I have a funny s story but also >> you want to tell us? >> No, not yet. >> Well, that's all I had to say about that because you know >> I'm moving on. >> You don't want to tell us? >> Not yet. >> Okay. >> Tell that at the end.
>> Okay. Um, so I haven't set up hybrid meetings yet for us for the winter. Remember I mentioned last week that I might set up hybrid meetings in case of bad weather. I haven't done it yet, but um I think I can do it. I think I can figure it out. Um, so let's move on to
the or the draftou for the orchard. Does anyone need copies or blind copies? I just you want >> I have >> Huh? You have it or you want? >> I have it. >> Okay. All right. So, um
I I don't know how much I explained that before last meeting when you were in here, but um we've had Shanti, our consultant, work on historic preservation restrictions for the house, the barn,
the upper barn, the lower barn. Um, and those would could go into place if some entity other than the town owns that property and those structures because this commission can't be can't
be a holder of the preservation restriction while the town owns the property. It's sort of a conflict of interest. It's like monitoring yourself. >> So, the only way that a preservation restriction could be put in place is if a qualified nonprofit
did it. But that costs, we went through this with 12 Robinson and it cost $50,000. That might be per building and there's three buildings involved. So, so I don't think we want to go that route. However, I think that,
you know, the town is going to own it. We don't know for how long. Maybe forever because that's what town meeting voted that the town can't sell it. So I think that we should have some sort of protection in place for the three buildings because they are not covered
by the agriculture preservation extortion. There is no protection for these buildings right now. Um so my thought is as an alternative to preservation restriction we could have anou memorandum of understanding or
memorandum of agreement with the select board between historical commission and leopards. That's what this is. Um I you know I added um that it couldn't be demolished or altered these three structures without uh certification or
approval by the historical commission. So that's kind of the heart of it. >> Can I just ask the base document was written by >> this document itself? >> Yeah. Shantine. Any thoughts, comments?
>> I read it before actually. I thought it was good. I think this would, you know, it's not overly complex. I think it makes makes the point. So, if we could get that accepted, I think that would be a good it would be a good
thing. So I uh I just have some sort of I think I agree with uh Jonathan. I think that absolutely needed. Um I think it's the right mechanism
>> and I just have some uh structural maybe feedback. >> Sure. >> Um only because we wanted to read like a like a legal contract. So I would put the the bottom part. So, uh yeah, this
uhou or MOA is effective as of today and is in effect until >> the property ownership transfers from the town of Littleton to a private buyer. Something like that. That way you're framing.
>> Yeah, because that's so most contracts have a term up front. You can even say it's the term term of the agreement shall be from today through whatever. Um, and then the other thing is I think like so it's it's been registered. Shante
filled out the paperwork. So by filling out the paperwork technically the town can't destroy it because it would be under chapter 6. >> Did you see that that she filled out the paperwork? >> No. Did we we indexed it? >> Oh, you mean in macros? Yes. >> Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. I said go ahead.
>> No, because it's under Macress. >> Yeah, >> they So, chapter 65 would apply. >> Oh, I see what you're saying. That >> they couldn't they couldn't actually demolish the building. >> I see what you're saying. So, I think I should mention chapter 65.
>> Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Just say, you know, pursuant to chapter 65 of the town bylaws, the property being on the Macris register of of forget the official term. Do you want like what?
>> No, but but you could map us >> cultural and reural resources inventory. >> Yeah. As as an inventory uh item uh you know will apply should the town make any attempts to pursue
significant structural changes including demolition or something to that effect. Does 65 address structural changes or just demo listen? >> Well, I would I I would so I think we
added the the bylaw line about significant structural changes that constitute demolition, but I'd have to look it up. >> Okay. But we want to cover significant changes, not only that >> Well, yeah. This has to go beyond that. Otherwise, you already have this chapter
65 protection. What you really want is that you wanted this to read like a deed restriction but not be a deed restriction because you can't have a deed restriction because you don't have a change in ownership, >> right? >> Yeah. No, that's great. Anything else? >> Uh the only other thing would be the um
upper barn >> is referenced in paragraph two before it's defined. You do define it except in four. >> I see. >> So I would actually move
the the the so I put the term first and then I would put like the whereas statements right so you say you know whereas the property is comprised of approximately 123 acres of land the
property is composed of three historical buildings >> property has a house in lower B you and u its ownership is with the town. Therefore, um
a historical deed restriction cannot be applied. Therefore, the select board agrees to the terms of this and then you list what you're basically saying. Okay. You want me to try and
edit it for you? Yeah. That make it easier, sir. >> Thank you. That's great. Any anyone else comments? Okay, I think that is enough. Great. Thank you. That's very very helpful,
Andrew. Good. And then, you know, once we are okay with it, then I think I need to run it by town council. I think that's required. >> Absolutely. And then after well yeah I think we run it by town council first
then I would set up a meeting with the select board and talk so we can talk about this because they don't know anything about this yet. >> Yeah. >> Right. Okay. >> Surprise. >> We're coming for you. >> Okay. Great.
I mean there's they know about it because town meeting approved CPC funds for three preservation restrictions for these structures. Oh >> so but no one really understood the machinations of well you can't have a PR
and you're on town on land you know that whole thing. So >> Right. >> Right. >> So there are PRs written. >> Yes. Yes. They're draft right now. >> Yeah. And you know, once Shanti and I massage them a little bit more, I will
give them to all of you to take a look at and see if you have any comments. >> Um, I wanted to have them in place. >> Ready to go. >> Ready to go. >> Love it. >> Yeah. >> And I figured whatever
she wrote in the PRs, we could use for theou, but theou came out much simpler. She thinks theou can be very simple. Yeah. >> So, doesn't have to be as detailed as the PR, she thought. >> That's fair. Well, again, because you're
patrolling yourself, so theoretically, >> right, >> the select board would ask us for our input, >> right, >> and recommendations before they did anything. >> Right. >> So, we wouldn't need a PR. >> Right. Right. >> Right. I still love theou idea.
>> Yeah. Thank you. I think it's important, too. Um, okay. historic markers. I know we've discussed them before, but we have to come to some decisions. Um, the more I think about
the black at Harley, the more I think we should try, if we can to move it to that other place that we talked about on the conservation because nobody's ever going to read it where it is. Nobody on that curve is going to stop their car and
read it ever. Y >> So, agree. The issue is on if we can find the concrete market. You did a lot of research. Didn't work out. >> Yeah. >> Chris, I think came up with some information. >> Fantastic. >> But he's not here tonight. So Oh, wait.
Maybe he's sending it. No. >> So he I think he was going to send it tonight, but if he doesn't send it tonight, we'll talk about it next time. >> Sure. >> And see if we can get a new concrete marker. I suppose we could move the old one, but it's definitely
>> So, I think maybe we can get a new new concrete and move it over. So, what do you guys >> Maybe it just could be maybe it just needs cleaning. >> Maybe it needs cleaning. Yes. And we could have someone do that. >> Well, again, there's also other options. So, like we looked at granite, right,
which is cost prohibitive. And uh I don't think anyone knows how to force cements, but uh potentially uh we could we could use something like cinder block, right? Something to >> cinder block. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? To build like the base.
>> Um and then put concrete on the outside of it. So it looks like a big concrete thing, but it actually is not something that >> somebody who knows what they're doing may I'm saying, >> right? Have we we flirted with the idea of of talking to
like DPW if this is something that one of them could >> Yeah, I haven't talked to them. I guess I'm going to see what Chris came out came up with, but yes, I will talk to DPW. I think I'll wait to hear what Chris says. >> Well, we need the DPW's heavy equipments. There's no way. >> Yes,
>> we could uh I mean, we could go and supervise, but we This thing is going to be hundreds of pounds. >> Really? Oh, come on. You and I could sure and then Oh, yeah. I was al
thinking talking to Middle Sex to see if they could Oh, yeah. contribute anything or how much it would cost. All right. So, I haven't done those yet. So, we'll see what Chris So, first of all, I guess my first question is, do we have a consensus in this group that we think we should move the marker from where it is
to what is it? How many feet over to the conservation land near it? Everybody agree? >> Yes. Okay. Do we need a vote? No. >> Can I ask you a question? So, if it's conservation land >> Oh, we have to talk. Yes, we have to talk to the conservation. >> We have to get permission to >> or whoever owns that trust or the
conservation commission. >> I think bringing up to the conservation commission first and >> Okay. All right. So, I didn't want to talk to them until I knew we everyone here agreed. Sounds like we do. All right. Although I have to say I don't think
>> that reading the markers from a car >> is something that anybody's going to do anyway >> because there all these markers all over the place. They're the Massachusetts markers, the New Hampshire markers. >> And I know I like to see them and read
them, but I just read the, you know, the >> while you're in the car, >> the heading I can't. For some of our markers, someone could pull off the road and stop and look and read them. This is a place where someone cannot pull off the road. So that's >> that's kind of what my thought process
is. >> I mean, it is it lots of people walk by, too. I mean, it's >> a lot of us walk in there on it. >> Yeah. >> So, you think we should consider leaving it where it is? >> Oh, no. >> No, no, >> no.
>> Okay. >> Um, no. I think over by the head of the trail is is a good place. >> Um >> Oh, there's a trail. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it's Mil. >> I've been down there. >> Yeah, it's not bad trail. >> Oh, it goes down by the the pond or river there. The Milh Hill.
>> Beaverbrook goes up >> Beaverbrook. Beaver Brook. >> Oh, nice. >> Um >> Oh, >> yeah. No, it's a nice little trail. And I mean, not like it's crazy busy, but people definitely walk good. And >> yeah, >> um especially for people that are doing
like the tree hunt. It usually has a tree out there. So >> people a lot of Do you ever do the tree hunt? No. >> Uh no. I This is the first time here I've never been. >> The little town The Little Town. Little town. >> No, I do not know that.
>> You walk all the conservation properties and find trees and then >> and then what? >> And then you submit if you find all the trees, you submit your name. >> They're like decorated. >> They're really cutely decorated. And then you can win something. You get entered into a lottery. Oh,
>> yeah. My dog and I are exploring the town. >> As you know, you see me there all the time, right? >> See, so now we're looking for the tree. >> Okay. >> It's It's over the Christmas >> season. Yeah. Under. >> Um
>> Well, that's exciting. Well, now we have a mission then. >> Yeah. And got to get up before before the holiday. >> The problem is it gets dark at 4:00. been really tough but >> yeah know I think I think it over there and then maybe it will be motivation for
them to also get a new sign for hill he'll >> yeah sign not in good shape >> maybe we could casually slip that ination for them but I think because it is technically a conservation land we should approach them first >> absolutely absolutely
>> yeah okay >> all right >> we Oh. >> Oh, yeah. >> Maybe we could convince them to do like a kiosk like they did at Brownswood. >> We could have both kiosk. >> Great idea. >> That's an interesting idea. >> That's a great one. Yeah, Browns Woods. I see it all the time. The thing we did
with the >> Yeah. >> chicken for a farmer. >> I wonder if a kiosk would be cheaper than putting up a new flat like marker. >> I think we should do a marker. >> I mean, I like the markers. We could do both. Yeah, we could do both. We get both.
>> Yes. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. They kind of feel like we should have the plaque, too. But I think the kiosk is very interesting. >> I agree. >> Definitely a spring project. >> Yeah. And then this um is this the one
that goes on New Town? >> Yes. >> Cuz that's the one that that DBW stood up. Now it's just sitting there empty. And so I think we need >> so that so I have two two issues with that particular marker. One is they got
it up which is great. That was very nice of the DPW to raise it up for us but it looks very short. >> Yeah. >> So maybe like you so you guys said last time maybe some of it sunk into the ground. I don't know. But it's very
short. So do we want a taller one? Do we want a new marker? And if we are considering it, is that the best location? Because it's right on the corner. Again, no one's really going to pull their car over. >> I think you see it. I think it see you
see it when you go down. >> Yeah. >> Um >> so I was going to say my my thought would be we get the plaque for it. We put the plaque on it. >> Uh because it is a great win for us because it is fairly visible. And if we do feel we need to raise it, we can
always raise it. Okay. >> Because you can just I think my guess would be a room. Smash up the concrete and it would come free and then just move it. >> Okay. >> It is a little bit high too, right? Cuz it's kind of up on the hill. So maybe standing there. It may almost be
>> Yeah. >> height. I think they moved it. They moved it out. >> Oh, >> and they might have because chances are, >> you know, if they had their machinery on the road, you know what I mean? and they might have like pulled it out and then
you know the reach of their thing. So we might have gotten a free move. >> So we'll leave it where it is. We'll get the nuke back and put it on this one. That's fine. Everybody >> actually you if you're covering on um whatever it is on >> Yeah. >> on the show.
>> Yeah. The show >> you uh you have to stop there. So actually there you do get a chance to read it. Though if you're going on news out of course you don't. Well, yes, but I think you see it. You're looking to see if the car is
actually going to stop. >> That's so you're like, "Oh, historical marker Volvo." >> Right. >> I think it works. >> That's good. Okay. So, we have two um sets of text here. Does anyone need a
copy or you have the copy? I sent you today earlier today. >> Um the top one is the shorter one, the bottom one is the longer one. It isn't a huge difference. Um, the top one does not have the words, which the bottom one does, which included portions of Lake
Nag and Fort Pond. >> Okay, I have two two things. First of all, I think the shorter version I just think shorter versions are better. But then secondly, it's not quite a dangling participle, but it's a dangling phrase
here because which included it sounds like the Indians included proportions. >> I did think of that >> of the lake rather than the reservation included. So if you're going to include that, you want to put that phrase after reservation rather than after Indians.
Um secondly, um in the in the second one also in exchange for her upkeep in her old age, I don't think you want the two hers, you
could leave out either one of them in in exchange for upkeep in her old age or in exchange for her upkeep in old age or something like that. But you know, I agree that's in the first one, too. to fix it. >> I would say her upkeep old age. >> I would agree.
>> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Her upkeep. Yeah. >> Okay. Great. >> And so I would I mean if you if you want to include that thing about the Lake Nag and Fort Pond, you got to put it after
reservation. Myself, I would prefer just leaving it out. >> I I I do agree. Um I always want I know I always want to have so much information but at the same time knowing that
>> like even just looking at them with with >> you know like immediately I'm like ah that just looks >> it looks less overwhelming. The top looks less overwhelming >> even though it's what five words like a little bit more than that but >> and this is even the top one is a lot
for our plaques but I think all the information was interesting. Yeah. >> So, I I would go with the tough one. >> Leaving out the witch included. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I Yeah, I agree. Top.
>> I agree. I agree that I've always wanted to be like, but I want to have that on there, too. But it's cleaner. >> Donna, >> I like the first. >> You like the first? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> And it's true. It just the bottom one is way too it's just too busy even though
it's only one line of something. So, okay, sounds like we are in agreement. We'll go with the first one. I'll take out the second her in that sentence. I have to add a period to the end of the whole thing. >> Oh, yeah.
>> But I think that >> Yeah. Okay. >> And how do we pronounce Sarah Dublet in um >> Woo? Is that right, Caroline? I think so. Oh, woohoo. >> Winnoo. Is that spelled right?
>> I'll check the spelling because we have it in our book. >> The only other thing you could do >> I don't know how important this is to the story that in exchange for her upkeep in an old age. Is that necessary?
Like would we rather we could cut that part and keep in portions of Lake Nag and Dork Pond? I don't know which one is preferable. >> My personal feeling is to keep for
upkeep in in for her upkeep in old age because that to me says something about their relationship. They had a good relationship, right? I don't know. At least to me that sort of says that. >> That's just the only other thing I could see that they could >> swap out for it without losing. And
frankly, when I read the top one without, you know, Lake Naga and Fort Pun, it really doesn't matter. So what? So it includes Fort Pun. You know what I mean? >> Unless it's super important. >> So does anyone think that's really important or >> No, I like that it, you know, this it's
talking about a real, you know, Sarah like that is a name and so I think it ties better to the town and I mean >> I like personalizing it. >> Yeah, >> agreed. Having having a person attached to the story is I think better than >> Right. Yeah.
>> All right. Sounds like we're in agreement. I'm going to have them go ahead and I'll go ahead and order the plaque. >> Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. >> Good. >> That's nice. We >> instead of sort of standing >> right
>> standing stop things from happening, we can actually do a few things, right? Yeah. I like that. >> Um, and then the last plaque was the Porter Road plaque. I don't anyone had a chance to look at it. If not, we'll talk about next week.
>> Porter Bridge. >> Porter, what did I say? Porter Road Bridge. Porter Road Bridge. Yeah. >> Um, Chris cleaned it up. He cleaned it up quite a bit. I think it looks okay. Although, I haven't been out there for a few months. So, you know, we could look
at it again. We could decide in the spring if we want to wait till after the winter. see how it looks. But um that's another one we should decide on. And if you haven't been there, it's hard to find down Porter Road. It's on the side. It's not a monument like like concrete
marker like the rest of them. It's a low it's on a rock >> towards the right by the old wooden bridge. You have to walk off the road to the side to find it. >> Um so it's literally a rock. >> It's a big rock though. Why? It's a big
rock. I like having things on big rocks like >> unlike it'll walk off. Right. >> Could we use the big rock at the bottom of hill for that for the parley park? There's big rock there.
>> Bill Hill. Where's the big rock? >> Isn't it? Am I >> Am I inventing this? >> Pretty sure. >> So it's just a rock. >> Probably know what this I was going to say. You probably know that. Yeah, you're over there. >> I used to. Let's
see if I can >> Is it by your house or somewhere else? >> No, it's at the bottom. It's at the bottom of the middle of the trail. >> Oh, the bottom of the trail. >> Yeah. >> And people uh who walk there park along
the fence. Is that what they do? >> Where the trail? There's a parking lot. >> Yeah, there's a tiny little parking lot. >> Two or three cars could fit in it, maybe. Or probably two or three. Oh, wait. Sh. >> Oh, there isn't a big There is no There's There's This
>> is that a wall? >> Uh, no. It's down. Oh, it's a big slab. Where is it in the on the trails? >> Oh, there's this there's this gromp. >> No, that's in front of Parley, right? Parley's over here.
>> Parley is is is there. >> Okay. Yeah. So, that's way way down. >> Over here. Yeah, it markers. Yeah, the historical marker is like right in here. >> So, I mean, yeah, it's over here, >> but like >> But you'd see it cuz people stopped to >> People here and like this sign used to
be right down so we could >> Yeah, there's there's a big >> You mean it's there now? Right in the parking lot? >> No, there's just like a big slab there >> in the parking lot. >> Yeah, >> it's like off of the woods. >> Oh, I don't remember that. Okay. Yeah.
>> But now you're thinking it wouldn't work or it might >> No, no, no, no. I was I >> There's also this big rock and I was thinking in my head I was thinking it was over here >> this and and kind of farther out. But >> that would be nice if it if it if we
could move it over there. >> Could we move? >> Nothing. >> Okay. >> Probably not. >> All right. Um, so the last item uh on the agenda, although there was the other thing I sent to you about topics, projects and
ideas for the future, which we'll talk about in a minute, but the last thing on the agenda is outreach educational activities. So the main thing I think at the moment is the award certificate or 12 Robinson. >> Okay. Um, so
>> yeah, I just you did we >> did do you ever find >> um I didn't look for it more after that. I can try to find >> You're looking for one that exists. >> No, I just had one not too long in a
pile somewhere. >> Um >> All right. So, no nothing on that for now. >> No. Um, okay. No, I I dummyed up one, but think need to work out what the language is to be on there. Um, so if we
want to I think we were hoping to mimic it off of that. >> Yeah, why don't you do that? Um, >> and then we could look at it. Um, >> I think I should let Joe know first though before we contact the select board about doing it at one of their meetings, right? >> That's a good idea.
>> Don't you think that's a good idea? >> Yeah. Okay. So, so I'm going to talk to him first and then contact the select board and let them know. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Well, I think we should probably make the award first. >> Yeah.
>> Then we tell Joe, then we go to >> Yeah. in case it takes a little while. >> Yeah. Just >> really just saying just Well, we've been talking about for three years. That's all I mean. So, just want to make sure we get there,
>> right? So, I mean, this is I can show you what I've dummy up like, but I guess we just have to work on just has to work on the language of it. >> So, that looks nice. It's properly properly flourished
>> like you know like historically flourish. >> Yes. >> Very nice. So yeah it would just be so what does that say? I mean for your wonderful work to preserve the historical integrity of 12 Broadway and roads. We are honored and proud to have a citizen like you among us. But I think
you know we could talk about it work on the language a bit but bring this around to just flip it around. And like maybe we'll get like a >> Would you put the town seal or something on this? >> That's nice, right? Like there should be
like you I think you can buy like the foil and like take it to the clerk's office. They should have a stamp, right? >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. The embossing. >> Yeah, it should do that job. >> Theyify it. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Put it in a little frame. that. But if
there's any language >> that we want. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I guess I'd like to see what the old one said and then we can >> it was very simple. >> Very simple. >> But yeah. Oh, that sounds good. Great. >> That's awesome. >> Okay. And any public input?
>> Adobe. >> No, I was just going to mention the plans for meeting tomorrow night with the 359 King Street, but >> Okay. >> That's on TV so you can watch it. >> Yeah. All right. So, um, I sent out an email
this morning. I think it's probably a good time to think about what future work we may want to do in the near future, topics, projects, ideas. Um, so if anyone has any thoughts, we should
think about monster. Oh, when was the last time anybody went to see the condition of the trailer? And in that wallet is um a company called Earthcapes
and it's a granite crushing company and it's set up very near to where the long story is. I I I just think we can't ignore the fact
the long story. We're ignoring that. We're not doing anything about it. We're not even talking about it. >> You're right. >> I mean, I'll go look inside the trailer. I don't have the keys or >> Does anyone know who has a key?
>> I uh I might have a key somewhere. John Ledger. >> Oh, okay. >> It's it's an awful situation and I think before we move on to any new things. >> So the question >> responsibility thing. So what and the
reason it's sitting there it's has stalled is because we we don't have a plan right and so I think we we need to talk about so so before we know what to do we need
to have a plan and so you know it has been many many years um and I think that the oper opportunity to rebuild the long store just just seems completely prohibitive
to to our means. So the question is is assuming that that avenue is closed, what what are the other use cases for that lumber, right? I mean I think there's other things we could do. Um but
I think they're probably going to be parts of other projects. >> Yeah. And the other I mean I don't know whether this is feasible but the other sort of alternative I mean the major alternative to to us doing
something with it is to give it to somebody who would do something with it >> right >> and since they wouldn't be I believe I'm not sure about the legal uh the the legal restrictions here but I believe since they're not they would not be a a
public entity that they could do it without some of the restrictions which was what turned out to be so expensive when we yeah first looked into it. >> Good point. >> Right. The um prevailing wage, >> right? >> I mean I hate to say things I mean
because I guess I sort of believe in that idea that people should get paid a fair wage >> for what they do but it turns out that that makes certain things >> almost prohibitive. >> Yep. Right. Well, I think I So, beyond that
though is we we would so if you if you just had the financial means to rebuild it, you'd also have to figure out a public use purpose for it as well. Whereas, if you figure out a private
entity, I don't think we're have the same burdens of the use case either. And I think we also got into the parking space rules, the ADA accessibility rules,
um, public use rules. Right. So like it was going to be a million-doll meeting room. >> Yes. >> Um, and that I think was what kind of hung us up in the first place was simply that >> Yes. um you know having a farm display on one half and a meeting room on the
other and a giant handicapped accessible multilevel toilet uh assembly in the back. It just it's just >> You're right. >> Wasn't really a viable plan. >> You're right. >> Is there anything left in that trailer
or Satan? >> Well, that's we don't know. >> That's the first step. You're right. We have to go look at it. Yeah. Well, >> so we have to find the key. So, you know, >> we got to find key. I'll look for a key. >> He can look for it. I can ask John Ledger if he has a key.
>> Yeah. >> Question is, is I have lots of keys. I have to recognize that it's the right key. But, but honestly, um you know, I I can cut a padlock off. I mean, we could just go over there,
break into it. >> True. >> Right. Yeah, >> bring another padlock. >> But we'd probably have to tell the owner of the property that we're showing up with a >> a thing to cut off the padlocks.
>> So, um you know, we don't have to answer this tonight, but maybe we should think about if there are particular private entities that might be interested in that wood, >> that lumber. So, so yes, we can we can start thinking
about that. Yeah, we've had a lot lot of other things on our agenda, but this is on our plate, but that's a this is I think good timing to think about it. Other thoughts, other projects? >> I mean, God forbid if that trailer ever caught on fire
and everything in it is gone, that would not look good for us. Somebody would say, "How long are you going to leave it?" How long did you >> Well, like we're, you know, he just they just said what the challenges are. So,
we have to find a plan before we can move it or do anything with it. >> There's also the possibility of him coming tomorrow and saying, "You got to get it out of there." That's right. That's the scariest we do then. >> Yeah. Right.
>> What's the background on this? Just >> Oh, yeah. >> Sorry. It can be really short. It doesn't have to >> Okay. It's an interesting story. >> Yeah. So, so the there was a building that uh was historically known as the long >> store. It is at the point by market
basket. Okay. Believe actually it's even more specifically on the site where the >> tire. >> Oh yes, the tire. >> Actually, I don't think it was that far down. I think it was more >> anyway around that area. It was right on
on the road and it could not stay there. >> Um, >> but the history of it is it was one of the oldest businesses in town or the oldest business in town and Longster. It had sugar, you know, hanging things of
sugar from the ceiling and rum and >> yeah, all kinds of drinks. >> It was a uh blacksmith on one side and a general store on the other. It was also used as the town's first postal
distribution, but not post office. It was just >> Sounds like you just got mail there, right? Am I getting it right? >> I think so. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. and uh and it was um turned into a uh a rental.
Um and uh the property owner passed uh and left it to the person who was selling the land to the developer who was building the point. >> Okay. >> And uh the we we did a lot of research
to try and move the structure. Um we hired an architect who told it was what 1740 I >> think. So 1740 sounds about right. >> Yeah. Um and we did our best to to move it. Um but then what ended up happening
was uh our select board um needed us to move more quickly. Um and it had to do with the fact that there was a state matching grant to widen the road uh and put in a traffic light assembly and that money became in jeopardy. So, it got to
the point that the developer agreed to give the town a donation, which was enough money for us to have it professionally disassembled. >> Oh, wow. >> And so, we professionally disassembled it with a firm that no longer is in business. >> Oh, is that right?
>> Gone. Yeah. >> Yeah. They were a firm that uh was known to his take apart structures historically carefully enough they could be cataloged and put back together again. And so she was totally willing to
rebuild it somewhere. Um but uh >> but it never got rebuilt. >> It never got rebuilt. And then we had somebody in town who donated a 18-wheeler. Um, and so we moved all of the wood into the back of an 18-wheeler and it sits
there today. >> It's been sitting there for years. Many years. >> Is it still like down by the point? >> No. >> Oh, >> now it's over by the dump. >> Okay. >> Not at the dump, but on the way to the >> On the way to the dump, >> but we did install vents so that there
would be some ventilation. >> We did install vents. Yeah. and um >> with >> well we also we we you know we were hoping to rebuild to rebuild you know somewhere and maybe even we we had this
idea doing in conjunction with the historical society somewhere across the street from where they are, you know, like whatever that address is 300 something or other uh uh King Street. Um
and we actually hired an uh you know a historic preservation architect from conquered I believe. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And he we have that somewhere or other we have this report that he provided
>> million dollars. But then when he finished that, we went to somebody who prices, you know, who figures out prices for construction. And we thought it would be a few hundred,000. And it turned out to be what, a million
dollars or something. >> And we said, we well, we just can't see the possibility of getting of getting funding for that. And so we stored it all in this trailer where it sits to this to this day. There's a lot of wood there. But
>> is it feasible to rebuild it at this point if the original firm that took it apart like do we have direction? >> There are other firms that Well, if they are still marked, are they still marked with lumber? >> There are other firms I think that exist that could do it. So part of the the the
feasibility study that Jonathan describes, >> we actually got >> fiber or fubar, you know that giant warehouse and they laid out all the contents. What was that? Fiber. Fubar. >> Feba. Fiba. >> Feeba. >> Yeah.
>> So we laid out all the contents in the warehouse. >> It was huge warehouse. You all the lumber out. >> Yeah. And uh it was all cataloged. And I would say this, and that is that it is not structurally sound. >> Mhm. >> So if you were to put it back together
again, you would have to put it back together on the inside >> of a super structure that was actually structural. >> And this architect actually prepared a a plan for doing that. >> That's correct. >> That was part of the million dollars.
>> So that's why part of the reason why it'd be so expensive. >> That's right. And being the town, you'd have to comply with the, you know, HERS 2 energy code. It's actually even harder today because of HERS, too. Back then,
the energy code was actually easier, right? So, now we got hers too. So, you'd have the energy code, you'd have the ADA, you'd have the bathroom requirements, like it'd be challenging. >> Linda, does Shanti know about the long store?
>> I'm not sure how much she knows about. I was just wondering if she could >> and give us some information or advice. >> Yeah, that's not a bad idea. >> The historical society thinks of it often because we all say we had the long story.
>> So they would I mean they would not have all of the requirements that this the town would at least some of the requirements they didn't have. >> Depends on what you're going to do with the building too, right? Yeah. And Andrew, if you can't find the key, why not break the lock? And he did say he
could do that. >> Well, I just need to know the owner of the property so that I don't show up with the Littleton police. My my chain cutter. >> He needs to let the owner know if he's going to break the lock. That's all. Yeah. >> You know, if I show up in his parking lot and I start sawing stuff open, he
may have concerns. So, I don't even know who the owner is anymore. the same person who's always from the >> Jim McN Jimmy McN isn't he the Hunter appliance. >> Yeah. Ah, >> I'm just concerned because John Ledger
mentioned more than one time that the trailer beat >> but I thought >> we put some some We put stuff >> put something on. How long ago was that? >> Yeah, it was a long time. >> That's true. >> No, I do agree. I don't I don't think
that your um uh suggestion is uh at all without merit. I think it's a fantastic time to bring it up. The problem I have is I just don't know what to do.
You know, would you would you like a lot of wood in your back? >> You know what I mean? >> So, >> and you also have plans to you would have plans how to >> reild it. You need to have a plan. Yeah. Well, no, the the archite Yeah, but
who's going to pay for that? That's We'd have to. Yeah, someone else would use the lumber, I think, at this point. >> Have to be a really big grant. >> Yeah, we have to really Maybe Shanti can think of something >> maybe. But no, that's not a bad idea just to have her know about it and
>> take a look at need land and put it on, right? >> And build other buildings first. apparently. So, >> give us that piece across from us between the >> the Masonic call and the the playground. >> I mean, it was Keith Bergman said that I
mean, they basically said, I think that we could have that lot >> because we remember we're going to have to figure out because it dips way down back and oh my god, what were we going to do with that? >> That was the cost that was the issue. >> And I think that that that piece of land had issues where we couldn't build it
straight. It would have to be sideways because of the wetlands. >> Yeah. But anyway, it was like 3 years of work. >> Yeah. >> And uh we didn't really get very far >> far. >> Well, at a minimum, like Donna is suggesting, a few of us or whoever wants
to, a couple people could go look at it. um once we get approved by the owner and see how the lumber's doing. >> We always do this on the cold, but >> yeah, why don't we wait till spring in May, right? >> Yeah. Well, I also think like John's son
has been instrumental um in because I think he's almost killed himself a couple times over there um shoveling the roof off and really Oh, yeah. >> Oh, dear. >> Yeah. And and wet aluminum is like super slippery. So >> Oh dear.
>> Yeah. So John Son, I think we owe up. >> Yeah. That's >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. Well, we'll think more about that. So before we close, does anyone have any other inspirations on ideas or
projects or things we might want to work on? I'd really like to see more macros. You know, we talked about that for this this year that in November >> like survey >> survey. Yeah. To add some more
>> structures to that because that's really the only way we have protection of and history of things. >> Yeah. >> So this year we're missing the deadline, but it could be for next year. It's always in November.
>> I think the grant starts in November. I think we also talked about potentially a uh and I forget the right term, but you know it. You were going to do the thing where you put all of the historical markers online with GPS
locations so that you could actually do like a scavenger hunt for historical GIS. GIS is that was >> And that would be a good um outreach thing. I think people would like that. Don't you think the problem?
>> That's cuz Rachel isn't busy enough. >> Okay. Right. >> In her spare time. >> How hard I mean I know like could like a an Eagle Scout do something like that? >> Oh, great. >> Possibly. Yeah. >> I mean it's >> We have someone who's done something similar.
>> There was an Eagle Scout project like that in Lexington. They did it for the old burying ground. Um which is really cool. >> Yeah. Same concept. Yeah. Yeah. It's I It also depends on like what platform like we go through Google, which I mean would probably be the the best because that's where everyone look for it
anyway. So yeah. >> Can we submit to Google just their locations in general? >> Like you know how Google has a thing where it like shows you building outlines and stuff like that. can uh >> yeah, but it would also be like if we
can have a map that >> kind of like a a driving tour or driving all these things we can we can make something that you can like populate with information when they get there, >> right? >> Doable. It's just a little but yes, a
>> do they ever reach out to you guys? >> Yeah, in fact, that was one thing I meant to tell you. I think there is an Eagle Scout that's going to maybe approach you because um >> I don't know if you see at the cemetery they have those little flag thing. It's like a little disc that you can put the flag in and they want to do some more of
them and they want to do them up at the old burying ground. So I think >> Can I give him your email address or the the historical commission email? Do some do you actually >> I never check that. >> I I have it. I will check it.
>> Okay. I I check it. I forgot about that when we were talking because I think he wants to email you and get on one of your agendas. >> No, that's Yeah, that's something I wanted to mention because I ran into Andrew Marco today and he mentioned that as well. So, they're looking not for funding is my understanding, but for our
support to do these posts for the flags and >> we're looking for their volunteer hours. >> Yeah, right. We'll exchange >> with this other project. That would be actually great though. Yeah, >> that sounds very Eagle Scout like, doesn't it? To have a GS mapping of all of our town.
>> I'm sure there's a kid that would like to do that. >> So much better than like building a bench. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I kind of like building benches actually. >> We had so many benches in Lexington. >> Yeah, we do a lot of that here, too. Benches and boardwalks. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> If there's We throw it out. We can throw it out to the kid and be like, "Do you know of anyone else in your troop?" But >> that's right. >> So, how do we get contact? So, you're going to give my address or >> I'll give you I'll give both addresses that address to the guy that I talked to. >> Give mine to I can for
>> Okay, whatever. You can forward it to me. So, so you do all the um stuff on the I think they the Facebook and stuff. >> Could we do like a like a thing on Facebook saying, "Hey, >> anyone interested in helping us build a
project?" >> Sure. young kids, high school kids >> interested in walking around town. >> I don't know that I have the follow page, but sure. Sure. >> Why not? >> I know. >> Yeah. >> You know what I was thinking? Maybe
co-pilot could come up with some ideas for the long story. >> Listen to her. >> You could try it. >> Oh my goodness. Out of left field. Probably the best suggestion I've ever heard. >> You can try it. I use it every day.
>> You'd use it every day. Wow. >> It is fantastic. >> Really? >> Actually, you just gave me a really great idea. So, when I get home, I'm going to upload the photos from the church into Gemini, >> right? What you can do with those?
>> What is that? >> What's that? >> What? What? >> Gemini. >> That's the Google AI for images, >> right? Why not? >> It'll tell you who who it is. >> Try to tell you. Only if there's somebody out there, >> right? Only if there's somebody out there and the entire internet.
>> I mean, it will probably make up something for you. >> It will. It will actually say I don't know. But not the answer. >> Be careful. It's >> But it will give you an answer. It might not be the correct. >> We have nothing to lose. >> Yeah.
>> Nothing to lose. >> Great. >> And everything to gain. >> Okay. >> I like it. I like the way you think. >> Absolutely. Anything else before we adjourn? Oh, we have to pick the next date.
>> Yes. >> So, for the next meeting, continue to think about what projects and ideas you might like us to do forward. >> I have our next meeting the 10th,
December 10th. >> Is that good for everybody? >> When is it? December 10th, second Wednesday of December. >> Is that good for you, Andrew? >> No. >> No, it is good. It looks good. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Do I have a motion to hear? >> I was going to say my my co-pilot is coming up with the results as we speak. >> Really? >> So moved. >> Uh yeah, so moved. Do I have a second? >> Oh, okay. We're
we're a journey.