All right. Good evening, Littleton. Welcome to the September 22nd select board meeting. It's uh 6:30 p.m. So, we'll go ahead and get started with the pledge of allegiance, please. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Music] >> Uh, I'll just roll over the agenda real quick. Um, we're going to go over the
mail. We'll have a recognition of some Girl Scouts for a silver award and then we'll start a joint meeting with the finance committee at 6:45, followed by department and board updates and requests, of which there are many. We'll move on at 8:15 to public input and members
updates. At 8:30, we'll um do a couple appointments to the Conservation Commission and Littleton Community Television. 8:35 we'll discuss the orchard plan and um annual orchard
monitoring. 9:00 we'll get an update from our town administrator and then we'll have uh minutes and we will adjourn promptly at 9:15. says you >> says me.
>> I'm looking for the [Music] >> sure the mails off here. Oh, >> because officer can't find it. >> Um, okay. [Music]
>> Uh, thank you, Madam Chairwoman, and members of the select board. Uh, we have current vacancies on the town boards. Uh, the following are appointed by the select board. The Agricultural Commission, Committee for the Exploration of Real Estate, Tax Relief for Seniors, Conservation Commission,
Disability Commission, Economic Development Committee, Littleton Community Television Advisory Committee, Master Plan Implementation Committee, Permanent Municipal Building Committee, Personnel Advisory Committee, Sustainability Committee, Zoning Board
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Uh here we've got a notification um to a Butters uh for work that is to be done um uh at 19 Ipsswitch Drive. Uh the the name of the app is Crown Castle Properties, but because of the town has
uh property within approximately I think it's 200 feet of this project, uh we uh to be notified and there's a demolition of an existing single family dwelling structure with a plan to to build new.
Uh here we have uh a certif as a result of the select board providing me with the authority to issue one-day licenses on the condition that uh public safety did not have a problem with it. I um I
uh issued a one-day license to derigible and um and that uh of 24 Porter Road in Littleton. And uh it was going to be uh a 5-hour wine and beer license for the
hours of 12:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. on October 4th, 2025 uh for the community event at 36 King Street. So, October Fest. >> It is. >> Here we have another one. And uh it's uh
granted for a 5h hour wine and beer license from 12:00 to 5 on October 4th, 2025 uh certified tavern in the square. Again, also at for the October Fest at 36 King Street. And here we have recognition, Madam
Chair. >> All right. Thank you. >> We're um Is there someone who'd like to speak on behalf of the Girl Scouts? >> All right. So, we have three Girl Scouts who are here and they um created a project um which culminated in their
silver award, which is the second highest award in Girl Scouting um to make an improvement to um Rooney Park. Um so, could we have you each come up? Amelia Myers. uh Sierra Miller and Katherine Smith.
So, why don't you guys share what you did? If >> I could ask, would you guys mind talking from the podium so LCTV can pick up? >> I'll go. >> You got this. >> Someone someone has to talk.
Um, basically >> a microphone. >> We repaired the um boardwalk at Peron Park cuz it was >> Sorry, not I said the wrong park. >> Oh, do you remember? >> What? >> At Park. >> Oh, okay. Yeah.
>> Not you weren't helping out. you were my other trip. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Um at Conan Park because the boards were rotting and were just very unsafe >> for the community. >> That's good. >> That's important.
>> Can you tell us a little bit about the process? >> So, we raised money with babysitting fundraisers >> and so we bought supplies, used ones that we currently had and used tools and stuff. We took out the boards that were
in the worst condition and replaced them. >> Standing. >> It's been fantastic. >> Can you tell us um a little bit about the silver award? What are the objectives of the silver award?
um to make an impact to the community that will like it's like our um troop leader or co-up leader said um it's the second highest honor in Girl Scouts. So, it's basically um an act
that you do for the community that will positively affect it and make it like basically what we did was make it safer for like hikers or people taking walks and stuff. >> Yeah, that's fantastic. That's >> commendable. You guys remember how many hours we had to put in?
>> Uh we had to have at least 50 hours of work to like get it get the um Yeah. to qualify. Thank you. >> Yeah. And it's verified work. It's not just >> Yeah. >> No, I was there. >> Yeah. >> Well, congratulations to all three of
you. It's um it's a tremendous amount of work and I hope you're all um as proud of yourselves as we are of you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Can we do a picture real quick? >> I can take a minute.
step. >> Okay, let's see. Okay, good. Hold up the sign. Go ahead. The awards rather. One, two, three. One more. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Congratulations.
>> I used to be that shy once. >> I don't think so. >> Hard to believe. >> Right out of the crib. >> See, I knew these were up there. >> Joint cleaning. actually. >> Yeah. All right. Are we going to go out of order?
>> No. >> No. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Okay. >> Are you ready to go ahead? >> We could go out of order. Yeah, >> of course. I'll >> sure. Why don't we do that? >> Perfect. Thank What number is >> 4A?
>> 4A. Gotcha. >> Well, thank you so much. Uh, good evening everybody. Doug Lander, Lieutenant Landry with the police department. honored to be here tonight um to bring forward to you uh Thomas Far. TJ goes by TJ. Thomas uh is someone
who we wanted to bring in front of you uh for appointment tonight. Um you know, we've had two openings recently uh with some of our officers that moved on and that process went out a couple weeks ago. Fortunately for us, TJ was in the
finishing process of the Fitzro State Police Academy that graduated last Friday. So, uh, quick turnaround for us. He, uh, we got him in quickly and, uh, he was happy. We were honored that he graduated the academy with our patches on. Uh, the town really helped us out
get him through the process quickly from that regard, uh, in in, uh, the background checks and such. Um, but in that process, we really got to know TJ as a quality candidate, super qualified, new police officer coming into this
position, uh, profession, excuse me, but, uh, experience uh, and a resume to come with comes with them. Worked three years for the Nantucket Police Department in their community policing, uh, role that they have through the internship program. Excuse me. Worked
for the Fitsburg State in their uh, civilian traffic program. participated in the Fitsburg State Police Program as I mentioned which is the four-year college process that in that process they are able to obtain uh um training towards the police academy have a quick
academy towards the end of their uh senior semester and in that have already started their uh master's degree. So he's working on that as well. So we're excited we're getting a educated well-trained officer here in Littleton. Um happy to bring him in front of you guys tonight if you have any questions. His family's here, his friends are here.
I'm sure he'd love to answer any questions uh you have for him in front of the crew and uh but thank you so much for your time tonight. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Did you have any >> Sorry. >> Yeah, please go ahead. >> Thank you, Lieutenant Landry, for the
nice welcoming. Uh thank you for the members of the select board uh for meeting tonight. Um excited um eager and uh can't wait to get started. >> Well, we're thrilled to have you. Um, I talked to the chief shortly before your interview. He said, "Boy, I hope this
guy works out." So, so I think I think that I think it worked out pretty well uh for both of us. So, thanks very much. We're um we're pleased that you chose Littleton and uh we're looking forward to having you with us for a long time. >> Thank you very much. >> Did you get any time off at all?
>> Yes. Okay. >> Yes. I graduated on September 12th. A nice little week to relax. >> A whole week. >> A whole year. Uh, welcome. You're joining a great department. >> Yep. >> Thank you, sir. >> I did have a question. So, how did you land Nantucket? Just that's a
>> I was a freshman and I went to a career fair and I spoke with some of their officers and I went home to my mom, showed her a pamphlet and she was like, "Are you not going to go to the island for three years, too?" >> Yeah, it was awesome. >> Outstanding. >> Moms always know best. >> It's true. >> You could probably ask I knew there's
some people in the department that may have worked in Nucket early in their careers, too. Lieutenant, do you know of any? Yeah, it was uh 2008 through 2012. I was started there as well. So, >> it's a great department. You can learn a lot from the folks that are around you and I'm sure they can learn from you as well. So, welcome aboard. >> Thank you, sir.
>> All right. >> Great. Well, yeah. Welcome. >> Welcome a little. >> Thank you. Can we get a picture? >> Yeah, of course. >> I got it. >> Let it get a vote through for us. I can make sure we get a unanimous or at least >> I'm so excited.
>> Three out of five. >> It's going to be at 7 a.m. tomorrow. >> Okay. You know, >> all right. Move that the select board vote to appoint Thomas J. Far as police officer with the Littleton Police Department. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All
those in favor? I. >> There we go. Thank you so much. >> You guys want to get in a picture? >> If you don't mind, >> if you don't mind, congratulations. >> We got some good support for here.
>> We're good. We're all >> Thank you. All right. >> Of course. Absolutely. >> You're going to get in there. >> Thank you. There's a lot of us right in the middle.
[Music] >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you. [Music] tomorrow. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> You too. >> Thank you.
Well, the coast has to shake hands with all 85. >> You just admitted it. [Music] Sorry, sunshine. She does it all. She does it all. Total package.
Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum. We are in session. >> Wonderful. >> I just like to introduce new face, >> Rick uh Kingsley to everybody. He's the uh >> school committee appointee. >> Fantastic.
>> There was a little hit hiccup with the school committee. He was affirmed by the school committee, but unfortunately they didn't post that they were doing this appointment. So Diane has allowed him to be part of this but he cannot vote
tonight. >> Understood. >> He will be appointed at school committee's next meeting. >> Well, thank you for being here. >> Yeah. Thank you very much. >> Be plenty of pictures. >> Jack's feeling very photogenic today.
Okay. >> All right. >> Review. >> Before we get started, we have one other thing on our agenda. >> We have a finance committee appointment to the community preservation committee. And do I have a nomination for
>> nominate Sanjay for Gupta for the CPC seat? >> Second. >> Uh motion that >> news to you Sanjay. Low man in the totem pole. You know what happens. We have a motion in a second. All in favor? I
>> congratulations. >> We need to meet Diane to get someone in to get the committee. >> I'll set. >> Okay. Uh what we have I'm sorry. Um thank you. Uh what we have we had a
internal we had over the course of many weeks we had an internal team that um identified the articles that are going to be presented um at town meeting and uh that team include the finance team with our finance director, the town
clerk, town council uh of a town planner, HR director uh to um really shape the shape the language of all the articles before you this evening. ing. So, a lot of additions uh uh um edits I
should say a lot of edits uh have gone into this. I think what before you is the 14th version probably going to be 15th version after tonight. Um but uh we feel that we've captured um all the uh the necessary language and uh and uh for
um for for time meeting I recommend that uh and request that the select board and finance committee uh review the review the articles and uh uh before you is the
uh vote to um the uh review the warrant approve the order of articles. Uh vote to insert um articles. Uh adopt article recommendations and um and close the warrant.
We're not going to tonight. We're not going to do the placement. Uh >> Diane, that is correct. Isn't it >> correct? >> Yeah. Not going to do the placement. Uh this meeting will be the next meeting. Okay. When does the warrant have to be
>> when is credited? >> Yeah, we have plenty of time for the warrant. So, the next meeting that you have, we'll have the full um warrant outdated. So, the town meeting articles need to be to the printer by Thursday. So, this needs to be approved tonight um
and have it all in in um form that you need which you have before you. And this has to be approved tonight so that we can get it to the printer and it has to be out by Thursday. So this has to be approved.
And if I can ask a question, this first motion is is not approving or disapproving of the articles. It's just as it says the order and approving the articles themselves. >> Correct. >> Are we later tonight going to do the approve disapprove?
You're going through that this evening also. Okay. We do the the final. >> Yes. >> So, >> so theirs is just the recommendation of of the finance article. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> Right. That are pertaining to any
financial articles. That's what exactly >> is that the only reason you guys are here tonight is just for the warrant. Correct. >> Mhm. >> Yes. Okay. So, we want to do the finance articles first. They don't we can keep um move them on.
So debt exclusions for this article >> SD and finance committee as well as school committee and shel building committee. So, just on the articles in general, do we have an idea of the ones that will be on the consent agenda? I I'm a little I don't know. I want Shaker to be early. I
don't know. It should be first because I think people are going to be still >> Yep. >> filing in. So, I mean I mean if we start the town meeting at 7, I'd like think you'd want it to be at like 7:15, not >> 7 >> or 7:30. Yeah. But we have the the Star
Spangled Banner and you know the and Tim going through the rules and the consent agenda >> and the clickers. >> So it probably will take 15, 20, 30 minutes until we get first article >> regardless. Consent agenda comes first. >> Correct. >> Is that correct?
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's normally the first order of business. >> Okay. And in looking at the warrant, I I think there are only a few articles that would be appropriate for a consent agenda. So, it really will be just a few minutes time before we I know that a lot of people are going to be looking to get
to article one pretty quickly. >> Uh and and just a few of them there, the the the bylaw amendments uh regarding uh changes in job titles, I think aren't really substantive changes. Those would be appropriate. the trust fund transfers
acceptance of mass journal law 2008 section 9A some of the other ones the the new talker pedal bylaw is a wholesale change from what was on in the bylaw so I think that wouldn't be appropriate because
that that's changing completely people might have something they want to talk about that so maybe maybe about half of and then there's a resolution and the citizen petition that wouldn't be appropriate either. So, uh it's a short warrant. So, I think maybe four or five it wouldn't
be wouldn't be a lot. We'll handle that before article one >> pull the prior year >> and article one has presentations as well. So, >> yep. >> Um if folks are running a little late,
they'll still be coming in during the presentations likely not not the vote itself. And that I mean there's a meeting before you and the vice chair will meet. You guys have a meeting a couple days before
to really iron this out. Right. So >> this and everything else just >> So my other question is should article 12 be moved closer to the sh I mean we have a sugar lane article that's the first one and almost the last one. Should they move be moved closer together?
You mean article 14? It's >> article. Article >> article 12 amend previous vote on sugar lane stabilization $55. Oh yeah, >> that really shouldn't be titled school. >> What is that?
That's um >> Yeah, that's that's the moving um allowing us to move $53, I think. >> Well, that's huge. >> That's that's >> I've seen half our discussions over that dollar value.
>> That's just to amend the 700,000 to include the design >> with construction and feasibility. So, it's all in one. That's all it is. So, I don't know why it's school building, Steve. It's not right.
[Music] >> It's to amend the the 53,000 >> amend article 23 for May 2nd, 2022. the the way that one reads, it's like we're using the $53 to help build the
school instead of like if you read the wording, it says there is 5355 in unused funds. The amendment will allow the town to use the remaining funds for design and construction. >> It's the MSBA reimbursement. >> That's the reimbursement that will be used and >> but it sounds like we're talking about
the $53 in that sentence. The $53 should be even in the description. It's taken right out. >> Okay. >> Make it does make it confusing. >> Yeah. >> All right. I'll eliminate it. >> On the school book.
>> So, we're talking about that article. All it is is we received reimbursement on the on the study. We need to change the use of those funds because it's more than the second vote which was 385 which was for
construction and feasibility. The original vote for the 700 was only for the feasibility. So we need to be able to use those MSBA funds in the project. >> This happens almost every vote, every construction project. >> Yes. Yeah.
>> Yes. Steve, do you have any thoughts on moving it up towards closer to article one? >> I don't think it really matters. >> Yeah.
>> So on on the screen it calls it school building stabilization, but in the printed in our packet it calls it amend vote previous vote on Shaker Lane. >> That's what it should be. >> It should be amended vote on. So I if it says that I think it needs to be moved earlier because so just so that the
people that are there for Shaker Lane unders don't if they think they have to stay for that one then then they don't have to stay till the till the end right that's just my
it'll avoid confusion of people that aren't normally at town meeting >> if it doesn't pass I don't even think it gets brought forward Yeah. So you want to make a number two. >> Make it number two. >> Do that. >> So they're together.
>> It's fine. >> Make make 12 number two. >> 12 number two. >> It's going to be a men vote on Shaker Lane. It will be the second article right after Shaker Lane debt exclusion. >> So you do Shaker Lane first and then that's >> Yeah. Yep. >> Cuz if that first one doesn't pass and the second one we we pull.
[Music] Okay. Um, whose article is that? >> Madam, >> article 12. >> Uh, >> that's ours. >> Okay. Madam Chair, if if I can please request
uh a fivem minute recess. Uh, I would like to talk with with yourself and chairman um just about u an expectation of of personnel being here tonight. They'll be about 30 minutes behind. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, you want a fiveminute recess?
>> Yes, please. >> Sure. >> Thank you. Is it the switch? >> I did follow the directions. >> All right, welcome back. Um, we're going to take an item out of order. Um, we're going to go ahead and hear from Mr.
Yanley um to review some uh to vote on a couple um contracts. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Yeah. >> Uh for the record, Stephen Y, director of public works. Um here tonight with two requests uh for awards for
contracts. Uh I don't know what you got first. um the paving one. >> Yeah. >> Yep. So, uh we opened bids uh back early September. I just missed the deadline for the last meeting. Uh but this is a
contract um for $573,372.50 50 cents uh for paving on New Town Road, uh Mill Road, the Foster Street side of Mill, uh Beaverbrook Road, and then a small portion of Harbor Road is also included in this up the hill from Pickicket Farm Bomb. It's coming apart a
little bit. Want to get that before it gets worse. Uh work is anticipated to start uh kind of the middle of October and be done about the first week of November, obviously, weather permitting uh and that affects schedules. But we received
seven bids on this. Bids came in um lower than what was estimated. So still a very competitive uh bidding market for this type of work. So again, no fear approval for this contract. Okay. >> Anybody have any questions?
>> I wanted um just simple is does any of this ever include sidewalks when we're when we're dealing with the roads? Does any of the contracts ever include is it >> not not on these particular roads? Um >> or or I'm just assume guessing as we
build a lot more sidewalks in town obviously. Do they become part of these? >> Yep. >> So one of my next kind of larger projects to look at is Harwood from the depot coming out. >> Yeah. >> Especially by Mil Pond where that culvert's going to need some attention. >> Uh we have sidewalk design on the other
side of the culvert going up to Foster Street on Harwood. So that project would include sidewalk because ultimately then you get the loopy to have connections into Foster Street and that type of thing. So certain places absolutely. >> Okay, that was the only question. >> Okay,
good. All right, I'll take a motion. >> Move that select board vote to authorize town administrator James A. Dugen to enter into a contract with PJ Keading in the amount of $573,372.50 50 cents for resurfacing and related work New Town Road in various locations.
>> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? >> I. >> Thank you very much. And secondly is um new bid for the disposal of solid waste uh and recycling from the transfer
station. And if you remember a couple of years ago, uh I think the board was the same as it is here. Um we combined in the municipal dumpsters into that for the savings. Um continued with that into for one bidder. Uh we had three
companies bid and obviously now we've added uh the sonic 36 King Street. So some additional dumpsters. Um Waste Management is the company that won the bid. They were the company that had the bid before, but we've received bids from two other qualified biders. And to be
qualified, you had to have facilities within a certain radius of the town for us to deliver the uh materials from the transfer station. Uh so again, I just wait for your approval for this. And this bid is was structured the same. It is a one-year bid, but we do have the
ability within the language to extend for an additional two years. Um which is what we did with the previous bid. >> I had a question. Um, if there was going to be another site identified or in another dumpster, does that require
a new procurement or are we able to roll that into this? >> We were able to roll these in. >> Okay. >> If we're adding an additional one to the ones that are in >> We could That's just what we did just now with center 36. We added in. >> Okay.
>> Um, and this but this doesn't cover the schools. >> No, >> they're on their own. Did we ever look at consolidating that if there would be any cost savings if we >> I certainly happy to speak with them. >> It was something that was looked at years ago
business manager and >> might be worth looking at a lot of changes in the last five years I know but >> right different cycles at the time. >> I see. Yeah. Well then when your term for this initially would give
might might be time to look at it again. >> Okay. Move that the select board vote to authorize the town administrator James A. Dugen to enter into a contract with Waste Management of Massachusetts in the amount of 202,286 for solid waste and recycling disposal
and municipal buildings dumpster collection. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? Hi. >> Okay. >> Real quick, um, while you're there, at, uh, town meeting, there was talk of the new, um, >> new plastic dumpsters and more of a
single stream for the recycling. Do you is there an update on when that will be? >> So, the compactor and everything has been awarded. Uh, it was expected to be delivered to, uh, the company we hired to install at the end of this month. Uh, then they they need to do a little bit
of fab work. So I would expect by middle to end of October where you're at least seeing installation uh and we'll be in operation before winter. >> Okay, great. Thank you. >> Yep. >> For our holiday cardboard,
>> Amazon and Chewy, right? >> All right. Thanks, Steve. >> We're two from here. >> Yeah. Are we ready to >> Don't think we're going to go to article one. We're missing a chair,
a member. So, >> why don't we just go through the warrant accept the articles that >> you're waiting for in put on. I mean, it just >> Okay. Yeah. [Music]
All right, I'm back. >> I'm back. Sorry. >> No problem. Sure Steve appreciates it. Um, so I think we'll skip over article one for now and we'll move on to article two.
What's in the what's in here is article two. >> Build the prior years. >> Anybody from the fire department? >> The fire department. Yeah, >> the fire department. >> Just troublemakers over there >> again. Um,
>> anybody have any issues or questions? Okay. Article three. >> Uh it's just it's really fun to collect the bargain agreement that uh we came to uh uh after many many weeks uh with the
police union uh that we were able to to do that. So uh it bypassed the last town meeting uh for this article and had to wait to this one. This backpace the contract to July 1st.
>> Yes. Of uh to 2024. >> Yeah. >> Any questions? >> So the So there's a one item two says it's 112 from the stabilization fund. Item three says the budget's going up
282. So the other 170 is coming from >> that's what was originally was budgeted uh that was set aside for contract negotiations >> 170 was >> yes >> but that's not what the motion says. It says we're going up 282
different fiscal years. >> Correct. >> First fiscal year is 112,000 to pay for FY25 salaries. >> Okay. 282,000 to pay for FY26 salaries. >> Okay. And the 282 is already in the
budget. >> Where's the 282? >> We had it reserved. Yes. >> It's reserved. Yes. So now we're appropriating it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You good? >> Mhm. >> And if this article doesn't pass, you
don't get paid. >> Correct. >> Okay. Article four. So it's act that article 4 is merged into article three. So >> okay >> that's the use of the salary stabilization into the collective bargain. >> You made it in one. So
>> okay >> so we can move on to article five. >> Correct. >> Accepting the provisions of mass general law chapter 200A section 9A. >> Wait wait wait. >> Article four is trust funds. >> Oh so it's wrong on this. So it's wrong
in the packet is article four is the trust funds on in the in the warrant in the >> report >> which is now article five. >> Let's just go by the numbers on the >> actually. Yeah. >> Yep. >> Are we using this >> or not?
>> I'm using what what I read the most recent information. >> So trust funds is the nook pods. Anybody have questions about the nook pods? >> Nope. >> Okay, >> we're good.
>> Yep. >> Now we're moving on to article 5, accept the provisions of Mass General Law, chapter 200A, section 9A, >> an alternative procedure for abandoned funds. So the state it defaults to the
state if we don't vote this in. >> Okay. >> Any excess funds if we tax funds for foreclosures. >> Can we change the title to accept except you know change something about except an alternative procedure for
abandoned funds because people are just going to look at what no one's going to know what Mass General 200A 9A is. It's going to just be confusing if we don't have a >> parenthetical in there just to >> underneath it. Yeah. >> See what it is. >> At least make the make the title more
like um the recommend like the bolded I think that would help. >> Okay. Obviously >> I had to look up what 289 I looked I read it today to understand what it was. So, >> well, I mean, it says so in the first
paragraph. >> It's Yeah. Well, it says it creates an alternative. It doesn't tell you what the alternative is. >> Okay. >> Right. But >> Okay. >> Are we good? >> Yep. >> Article six.
bylaw amendment to change the hawker peddler bylaw and that's yeah so um in the past several years we've had a lot of complaints of um people um doing pockers throughout the
town we do have a large contingency of seniors in our town um a lot of people um do not come to the clerk's office and get licenses to be out there. So, in speaking with um Chief Bernard, we
talked a lot about changing the bylaw. He went to another town, found another town that actually has this no knock. We had looked into it. Um and basically what it'll do is put um the residents can sign up for no knock um and um any
hawker peddler that doesn't come to the town office um if they were to go to any um and and as well anybody that actually signs up and gets a license if they go to a um person's home that has a no
knock um they will stop being fined. Um, so it gives us a lot more teeth um to be able to um make the residents feel a lot more comfortable, know that they have a little bit of um leverage over people that are out there doing the pedaling
and it also gives the the police department a lot more um leverage as to what they can do. So, I was reading this and the definition of a person is very broad, but then
we get to the um background and it's obviously that's on an individual basis. So, the idea is that pest control company A knows that they're going to send certain people and they need to submit those particular
people for background checks at least 2 weeks in advance. >> That's correct. >> Okay. >> Yep. And what's nice about this as well, um, so quite often a company will come and say, "We're going to send six people. We get pictures of all those
people. We do do background checks on those people." and then they end up sending other people. >> We tell our residents to ask for the permit that they have and they have the picture of the person that's on that's supposed to be out there and quite often
the resident doesn't ask or they'll say, "Oh yeah, here it is." And they kind of flash the badge and they don't really see the the face on on the badge. So now they really have to have that and show that and if they don't show that then they can call police and you know as
well. So again, [Music] >> anybody have any questions? >> Um, well, there's we're we're going to hold an hearing on an appeal within 72 hours, but how can we do that with open meeting law? If someone said posts
something on Friday, it says that we they sent you something on Friday that requests a hearing. There's no way we by the time it got through the process, we couldn't do it within 72 hours, right? >> It's been approved. This has been approved by the attorney general.
>> Okay. So, I mean, obviously, if we know that they're requesting a a hearing, we would tell them that we can't do it. And, you know, because we can't count, you know, obviously the 72 hours has to be in our time, which has to be business days. Can't be 72 hours, which includes
a Saturday and a Sunday. >> Yeah. It doesn't say business. It should probably say >> change that to >> three business days or something like that. >> You can change that. No, it says the select board shall hear its appeal at its next scheduled meeting, not less than 72 hours after.
>> So, it has to be it's the next scheduled meeting, but it can't be 72 hours. >> So, it's it's got to be more than 3 days, >> right? >> I think that's just just for that reason. >> Okay. >> Could be up to 10. >> Okay.
>> All right. Article 7 King Street general stabilization fund >> is the intention that we'll have the amount that we want to transfer on the night of town meeting. >> Yes. If not before. >> Okay.
>> So this we should have some I guess flexibility when the time comes. Jim sir. So the reason we kind of offered up the reserve fund was to pay the vendors timely, but this has been going on for
whatever. So if it gets kind of close, >> y >> I would say if it's okay with select board, use your judgment. >> Okay. >> Whether this article just becomes a straight transfer out of general stabilization, you get the reserve fund out of it and you don't have to have us
meet to to do it. >> Just do it straight. But again, it's the vendors being paid >> timely. >> Yes, sir. Thank you. >> So, are you going to make a recommendation on that article tonight?
>> I don't know what we're recommending. >> So, we don't even vote on it tonight. >> Do it when we see the article. Yeah. >> All right. So, no. Article 8, bylaw amendment regarding posting of warrant.
>> Again, it's um at this point in time, we have to post the warrant in eight meeting houses. We're looking to just change it to three, which would be um the two post offices and here. Um right now, we have to post it at all of the um
churches as well as the post offices. And here um as you may know um one of the churches is closing. So that would decrease one of our locations that we already are um posting at. So this is really um giving us the opportunity to
make changes um that are good for everyone. Um we are going to be in three different precincts. So it covers three different precincts because the two post offices are in one precinct and and Tom Hall is in the third precinct.
It also helps us to evolve towards technology and >> more modern changes just >> any questions? >> Nope. >> Okay. >> Article nine, increase to income limits.
Yeah, this came up through the um we select where we're going to put this forward. This we're just trying to get this on the books to have um the circuit breaker. We're going to start matching what the state allows so that every time the state increases that amount um we
move with it as opposed to having to wait for town meeting and vote. Uh this is for um benefits um specific to our seniors um with their eligibility income requirement thresholds for eligibility to some of
the programs that we have tread and things like that. So um it's uh it increases it from I think it's currently 55 I think it goes up to 72 now. Is that right? So, >> um we should see a maybe an uptick in um
people will be captured in that, but um not it won't be very significant this year, but hopefully in future years uh we might be able to get a few more people that are eligible for some of the the benefits that the town has to offer under this um chapter.
>> So, again, can we change the title to just increased income limits for senior tax relief or something rather than having the Mass General law in there? So it's and it's also got a misprint anyway. It just says L dot. So if it just say increasing in increase to
income limits for senior tax relief or something like that just to make it more descriptive for people. >> Yeah, it's 41A. So um >> I guess you could define 41A whatever that >> we define that in the text but >> so just change it. Just take out the
mass general laws chapter 59. just take out that stuff and just have increase to income income limits for senior tax relief. >> Master alarm. >> Yeah, >> I just put I think you leave master tax deferral program. >> Yeah, >> I hope I
defer tax This was similar to what we did um a year or two a couple years ago regarding um the threshold for the workoff program. Correct. It was at
1500 >> um right and the state allowed us to move that up to 2,000. >> It's true. Um and at that time we we basically just said that the uh future the same type of article came forward and said we don't have to keep going back to town meeting every every time.
We will increase as the state allows us to increase and we can maximize those programs for our seniors and and veterans. You good? Uh article 10 bylaw amendment regarding director of veteran services. >> I think these next two articles u
housekeeping articles we have uh as uh Tom Cook and I have discussed uh we are to have a director of director of veteran services uh beyond a VSO.
Um and uh uh so that's what this this article does. And uh it was it's instead of having an annual appointment by the select board uh it is something that's for a term up to three
years and with the title change of director of veteran services. >> Okay. >> That all made sense to me. >> Does it currently say director of veteran services or says veterans agent? It's >> a veteran service officer I believe.
>> VSO. Yes. Veteran service officer. A lot of towns have a director of veteran services and a VSO. So, the director position should really be the first one. And they can be the VSO, of course. Um, but as you grow, you're going to want to have >> some of the communities have several
VSOs and a director of veteran services depending on the size of the community. So, >> same thing applies to a health director as we have he acts as the agent, the health agent also.
I Well, it doesn't pertain to the warrant. I was just thinking there probably needs to be job descriptions for the both of those. >> Yeah. >> Positions should be assistant. >> That's that would have to follow up. >> Should be. >> There's one for the VSO, obviously. >> Right.
>> Okay. Article 11, bylaw amendment regarding director of finance and budget position title. Um again this is something that uh uh is is housekeeping in which uh will substitute the term finance director uh
for director of finance and budget through our general bylaws. Um yeah but it reflects an update um to the title that was taken that was previous taken previously taken. Michelle
is she was she's got it down. >> If there's specific questions regarding this article, >> it's just a it's a floating title that you um or we I guess have the authority to move to several different positions I think from a previous town meeting.
>> ATAR >> treasure and treasur. >> Okay, good. >> Yep. Um, now we're at article 12, which is amend previous vote on Shaker Lane School. >> Mhm.
>> Which we're going to move to article two. >> Correct. Anybody have any questions besides placement or placement and No. Article 13,
resolution on climate action and resilience for town of Littleton. We're going to have a presentation on that in a little bit. So, um, >> I would say, yeah, it's a select board one. If anybody has any questions on it,
I would say let's hold those until after the presentation. [Applause] 14 is a citizens petition as well. >> So let's uh finance committee about our recommendations. We'll skip
over article one for now. So we have finance articles, two which is bills of prior year. Three, fund collective bargaining agreements. Four, authorized transfer from trust funds.
Nine. >> What was five? >> Increase the limits for the def tax deferral program. And 12, amend the previous vote on Shaker Lane. any >> well and 14.
>> Um, we should talk about 14 separately. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> So, you don't have five. No. No. Uh, >> that's fine. >> Transfer from the trust funds. >> Four is transfer from the trust funds.
>> And what I'm reading in front of me here, four is transfer from trust fun. >> Five. >> Okay. >> All right. >> I have it as five. Yeah. >> Five is the provisions for the alternative disposing of abandoned
funds. We could do that. Is that finance? We would consider that finance. We could do five all. >> So 2 3 4 5 9 and 12 are finance. >> So move with a motion to recommend. Do I have a
second? >> Second. >> Second by Sanjay. Any further discussion on any of the articles? All in favor? >> I >> I committees in favor of 2, 3, 4, 5, 9,
and 12 as printed in whatever I'm looking at. >> How do we after recommendation? We want to do we want to vote on those now? >> Yeah. >> And then move to the other side. >> Yeah. Let's go ahead and
um cover 2 3 4 9 5 and 12. >> Um okay questions? >> No motion to recommend. >> Motion to recommend articles 2 3 4 5 9 and 12. >> Second.
>> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? I. Okay. [Music] All right. Do we want to take a look at article one?
>> Yep. It's a small one, right? >> Yeah. >> No big deal. So article one is obviously the shaker lane vote. >> So there's been some questions about the
trigger of of that we've been talking about. There's email stream that that went through this past week um starting with the building commissioner and the attorneys and then forwarded to um a
smaller group. I believe Karen and I were on it. Um yes, Henry now. So we've been under the working under the assumption of a trigger of 2.73 million which is 30% of the assessed
value of the building. Um in analyzing a little further and and Henry's here please correct me if I'm wrong Henry in anything that I say. Um there's two two specific options here.
Let's first deal with if the school passes. If the school passes, then the building commissioner has flexibility in what he would consider for things that break in
the building. So if something happens, as long as it's safe, we could just fix that one thing. just put a band-aid on it to get it
fixed because we're going to be getting rid of the building. So, the building commission has flexibility in what he determines needs to be done to get the building safe. So, that's if it doesn't if it passes.
Does that sum it up pretty good? >> That's correct. >> Okay. If it doesn't pass then there is two triggers now right >> first trigger is the 2.73 million that we've been talking about second trigger
is 50% of the square footage if something happens that affects 50% of the square footage of the building then we would have to upgrade the entire building to code so two separate things the building commissioner under This
either scenario has no flexibility in determining when the building has to go to code. It's 2.73 million or it's 50% of the square footage that's being touched. No flexibility at all. If some if a certain thing happens to the
building, that piece of the building has to be brought up to code. So if something happened in one of the restrooms for example, that restroom would have to be brought up to ADA accessibility, right? >> That's correct. >> If something happened at the entrance,
then the entrance would have to be handicap accessible buttons and so forth. >> Steve, if any of those hit 2.7 million, if the other trigger kicks in, >> if the cumulative effect of all those things over a three-year period
>> Thank you. That's what I was. Yeah. >> Hit that 2.73. Then the entire building >> needs to be done. >> But as we go along, we're going to have to bring those things we touch up to code as well, >> right? So everything we touch has to be brought up to code.
>> Do we know what we've spent in the last 3 years? Like where are we at? >> I think Steve looked at this. Steve Mark looked at this and it was like two something 250 comes into my mind. >> That's don't quote me.
>> What does film quote? >> What does 50% mean? Um is like if the >> if the boiler fails, it's affecting the entire school, right? Does that >> count towards the 50% area or a much
smaller area? Madam Chair, members of the boards, the 50% is um the area that's being disturbed. So if there's half the building's under construction, the other half isn't. Um
that's how that affects if the boiler goes um there is flexibility that allows you just to replace the boiler. >> So it's what you're actually working on. It's not the it's not the area that's affected. It's the area under construction. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. So, one is a space trigger and the
other is a financial trigger over a three-year period. >> It's hard to imagine that 50% wouldn't hit the the 2.3 >> 2.3 and and I very much appreciate Steve and you getting
clarity because when this whole email thread was going on, I was like, you know, wait a minute, we we were talking about one trigger, now there's another trigger. And it's like all good. >> Both and >> so that means then if like the roof
needs to be replaced that would affect a large portion that would cover the 50% most likely or not. >> No. Uh like again it's the level three is a reconfiguration of the space. So any office and and if the half of this
building was taken apart, brought down to where you're going to re restart from scratch. >> So as long as you're doing Okay. Thank you. >> If it's a roof, then it's to the roof. If it's mechanical, it's mechanical. Okay. >> Sprinkler system. Sprinkler. >> Okay. >> So we're not upgrading the floors.
>> Replacing the floor tiles. >> No carpet. a lot of band-aids, >> but those band-aids are >> part of the 2.73 as as those repairs are made, >> right? >> It's part of the accumulation. >> Well, one of the things that that was
brought up al Karen and I and Jim met with Henry before this um the modulars, for example, if the modulars are within 30 ft of the building, they're considered part of the building. if they're 31 ft away, they are not
considered part of the building. So all the electrical, septic and everything um would count against that 2.73 if they were within 30 ft of the building. >> Well, we make damn sure they're 31 ft.
>> I got a tape there. You can borrow suspenders. >> Is that suspend? >> It's not going to be an issue. I'm doing this. >> Okay.
>> All right. So, um, other than the trigger, were there any questions? I did have a question myself. Um, but if anybody else wants to go first, that's fine. >> I'm good. >> Mine was just morearity related to the
>> the speakers. Um, who's speaking? I I noticed on the article itself, it had uh school committee, select board, and finance committee. >> That's that's unusual. Normally, we're recommending we're recommenders of
articles and the finance committee is a recommener of articles, but I don't believe the finance committee is bringing the article forward. Does that make sense? >> So, I think they should committee, the school committee, the select. >> Yeah, I'm sorry. So, I I think the finance committ removed from the the article. That's it. They're they're
going to be on there as a recommendation, but they don't they're not on there as a they're not bringing the article to town meeting. >> Does that make sense? >> Mhm. >> But we would still I would think it we would still speak to it. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Right. Because you have to speak toward your recommendation and the
impact, but >> you're not bringing the article forward. That's what how it's stated in the article. >> Yeah. Yeah. But it's being brought forward by >> by the Shaker Lane School Building Committee that's highlighted under article one. So that's defined and then
any committee that has a vested interest in board or commission that's got a vested interest is reflected is reflect reflected accordingly. >> But he's saying that everybody else is named like do you not know how like Diane all up there?
>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> Some of Dian's articles it says town clerk. >> Okay. >> Then underneath that will be >> who recommends it, who's recommending. >> Understood. Okay. >> We want to make sure >> the author of the Warren article. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Who's bringing it forward?
>> That's all. So, I was um wondering the second bullet point um somewhere after that, do we want to add that the vote is contingent on approval of the November 1st Prop 2 and a half
override? >> It's not in here anymore. We add a third bullet or after >> or another Sunday. >> It says that in in the motion it's in the motion. >> It is, but I think it should be in the explanation as well.
>> It's really key. >> It is critical to the article. So just having it there as many times as possible so people can say, "Okay, we voted on this. We need to show up again in in three days." >> Takes two votes. That's that I know that's part of the presentation is that >> Yep.
You want in the first paragraph? >> It's uh just a bullet. >> After the second >> a third bullet. >> Yeah. >> So after the $59 million. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Just >> Okay. >> I guess it's a separate statement. It's not really a bullet.
>> No, it's not a bullet. It's >> It shouldn't be a third bullet because those two bullets are describing the division of the funds, right? But I agree that like a bold sentence. >> Yeah. It should be the final statement maybe. >> Yeah. The approval of this reminder. >> You can put reminder and dark and say
>> return [Applause] and then we'll just add a note there. >> Okay. >> Can we move a voting vote to the soccer field? >> And uh Madam Chairwoman, do you have uh
a suggestion over what language you would like in here? >> So, I think I've got it later in the motion. Um we can just repeat it >> the motion itself. something to the effect of approval of the project is contingent upon
a affirmative vote at town meeting and an affirmative vote >> on Saturday the day >> a twothirds vote at town meeting and a majority vote >> on November >> on the ballot >> November 1 This borrowing article is
continued upon a successful debt exclusion vote on Saturday, November 1st. >> It's very elegant. >> What he said. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Cuz all this article really is is just a
borrowing authorization. You could put a big reminder in bold and then that statement just so the people realize you've got to show up, you know, in three days. >> I can be the first homework for a new ATA maybe
coming in right in on it. >> We still hold the vote. >> All right. That's what you can. >> Is that all for article one? Oops. >> Yep. >> Good. >> All right. >> Committee.
>> You have a motion to recommend to have the one. >> Do you want to vote without the full committee? >> We have a quorum. >> Yeah, we need the vote. >> The question is, do you want to vote without the full committee? Yep.
>> We should we should I think >> but never a full committee. >> Do I have a motion to recommend article one? >> So moved. >> Moved by Sanjay. Do I have a second? >> Yes. >> Second by Brian. All in favor?
>> I >> I >> unanimous. We have our recommendation from the finance committee. Um recommend recommend to support article one.
>> Move >> a move to recommend to recommend support of article one. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? >> I I >> maybe that motion too. So, in the
>> in the warrant, it doesn't actually have the line that says who recommended it currently in bold like all the other ones do. >> No, we'll add them. >> Yeah. >> So, >> and article 14 >> because then we can leave. I was I was going to mention um something that I've
seen in previous select boards and we stopped doing is when we have a unanimous vote versus a four-fifth vote versus a three-fifth vote or four >> just so that we know it's important to put in there that unanimously voted for. And I think we need to start doing that on on all of our articles because
sometimes that descent the desending disscent vote needs to have say. Sometimes people like to come to the mic and say >> we saw two dissenters on the finance committee. Could you please speak to why you desented on this article or or the select board so we can kind of get that
dialogue? And I noticed that stopped. It was just recommended to recommend. >> I was I was just wondering how the board felt about getting that back. >> I I like it. >> I like it. So, so unanimously voted to recommend. >> Okay.
>> We just unanimously voted to put unanimously voted in. [Laughter] >> Did we also do we need to vote to reorder at some point to if we're going to move? >> Oh, we were going to do the order at the finance leave after that.
>> I thought they had to vote the order so that they could print it in the right order. >> But that doesn't involve us. >> No. Mm-m. >> So, do we need to vote the order tonight? >> Okay. >> What else we have for finance on 14 that
>> 14 says petition? >> So, I >> walked through this one. >> I don't recall and and correct me if I'm wrong, but have we weighed in on citizens petitions before? I I I can't think of any. But
but but this hasn't been one that affects our policy. >> I think this one we kind of need to because he's it's written that we are will guarantee a million dollars be put into debt
exclusion stabilization each year for this project and explain we simply can't guarantee a million dollars to be put to this project. So >> right and and and Steve if I may we
we have over the years established policies those policies were uh Moody's based on those policies increased our bond rating all due respect to the petitioner
I want any policy changes to be done by us because the bond implications are enormous. So I I think we should take a stand and I think our stand should be no
>> just >> to clarify it's not just this project. >> It's fin right now recommend. >> Okay. >> Every project >> every project you're putting in a million. So if we have three dead exclusions we just put three million into the fund.
So it it's it's something that we I tried to explain to the petitioner that we can't guarantee these things, >> but it's still here. So >> yeah, if it passed, then we could potentially be cutting operating budgets to do it.
>> But really, I mean, you know, in a draconian time, you you could be in that situation. So it does not make sense for finance committee to support. >> So I'll make a motion that the finance
committee not approve the citizens petition. >> Recommend. We don't approve >> or not recommend >> how he said. Yes. >> Second move and second. All in favor? >> I >> I
offer an opinion. not just the word. >> Sure. >> I would be of the opinion because we haven't taken a position on citizens petitions in the past of not taking a position. Certainly speak to it and you can make your position pretty clear by speaking to it. I don't think it's a
good precedent to to you know pick and choose which ones we take a position on. I understand why but I I I just don't think the select >> that's so we don't don't print it. But at least we have a consensus now for the select for the finance committee. We
needed that recommendation anyway, but >> we wouldn't. But if if >> So don't put it on the >> Don't put it on in the booklet. >> Okay. >> But we know where we stand on it now. That's >> speak to it at the town meeting. >> Oh, absolutely. >> I mean, you guys as well. >> Sure. >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Thank you, Chuck. >> Chuck, we can both stand up and say we're agreeing. >> We haven't voted on it yet. >> Oh, lock on. All right. So, I don't see this as a select board
policy. I see this as a finance committee policy. >> I >> I'm not inclined to break the precedent of not weighing in on citizens petitions. I don't see the urgency that,
you know, if I were on fin, I would very well feel differently. I mean, my only comment is that it directly affects I mean, as a select board, you know, the finance committee is making these financial recommendations or not. The select
board, we're looking at future projects potentially being seriously hindered. I mean, we all love our schools and we need our schools to be topnotch. Um but when you ask the select board to pit it against a DPW building, a fire station,
a police station, um and when you start making commitments like this, you're hindering those future projects. Um taking taking you're handcuffing finance committee and the select board from making um those decisions. So that's
that's why I'm a I wouldn't recommend it. And I think that's just one of the reasons. I think Brian, you brought up another there's many, but I mean it's a great idea, you know, on its face just to look at, well, let's put as much money
against this as we possibly can every year. >> Um, it comes with a huge cost and a reckless cost if you ask me. But that's my opinion. >> So, I I'm with Karen. I think I I I follow the lead of FinCom on this one, but I don't think we need to vote or
print in the in the in the in the report that we don't endorse it, but we can speak to it at the town meeting and I think, you know, we can just I state for the record I also do not support this this article. >> Correct. >> So, we have the consensus of the select
board not supporting this. >> So, I I do I do not support the So Fred has a different opinion on putting it into the booklet. No, I I think of all the citizens
petitions that have come forward, this has a significant potentially significant enough financial impact um that we should be on record uh and write in the in the documents so people
can see it that we do not support it. Okay. >> I I thought we had agreed to that. >> Well, that you guys wouldn't, but that we do. Our recommendation will be in the booklet. >> You want it in the booklet? >> Do we want it in the booklet? Yes. >> Oh, God. Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> This is our credit rating, guys. >> Put it finance committee in the booklet. >> I think this one's too dangerous, but we can have strong opinion. Correct.
and I'm happy to speak to it. >> Um, finance committee, we okay with the report that I sent around to include in the booklet. >> Y okay. >> Thank you. >> Robin has an electronic copy if you need it.
>> Okay. >> Motion to adjourn. >> I have a motion to adjourn. We have a second. All in favor? >> I thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks everyone. >> Thank you guys. >> So we now >> we have we still have some articles to vote on. We
>> have some articles to vote on. Um I have a request for additional >> I think we need to add some more logistical info >> into the report um about um the child care is going to be available.
>> Thank you. um that the cafeteria will be a a child-friendly environment. Okay. >> But >> where would you put that on mail out? >> Um >> is that something we could do?
>> I mean, we've got other types of logistics in here, right? >> Yeah. I if we um some of these larger articles I you know I just remember from the past that and we hear constantly some of the hindrances are they didn't know that
there was child care available when the parent so if we could saturate it somehow get it on the mail out and also even on the on the electronic boards >> in town that we put out for the town meeting. I mean that's another great way
to say child care available or contact this phone number. >> I mean, under this under the town meeting procedures, there's a list of things. I seems like the logical place to put it in the report. >> Yeah. I was thinking
um you're talking about right here. Yeah. So, those are the town moderators comments. So, I think we would have to ask >> Tim if he was okay with putting it in there. earlier I talked to him about it and he said if you put it under where his his name is
put it under there he's okay not in his specific information but under his >> oh after his name at the end of that >> well could we put it in under the select board section then which is on page one >> even better
>> I think that's more I think that's more likely to be seen I'm okay. >> I I mean I I'm in in favor of making it as prominent as possible >> and as and as permanent as possible going forward. I I just think this should be this should be a standard thing that we develop. >> Yep.
>> So we maximize participation. >> Yep. Who's who is off who is offering the child care and is the town paying like what you know they are we involved is the town involved in any way that in that >> uh national society um students uh and
there were two representatives that the town clerk is has reached out to about coordinating that. >> Okay. >> For that to happen. >> Okay. >> Great. >> Yep. And then like I said the cafeteria will be designated as >> child friendly. >> Child friendly. So, I mean, and the gym
is child- friendly, too, right? But I just think people tend to view it as a little more straight and narrow. >> I think just to be clear, the people in the cafeteria can vote, right? >> Yes, they can vote. They can comment. >> Yeah. >> There's going to be a moderator that's
going to be in there also. >> Yeah. So, all right. So, we'll add that to the um page one under the select board section. So uh the language will be between the town code 41-3 and here is
the format in which the information presented. So I'll put it in between uh right after the town code but before here is the format. >> Okay. >> You okay with that? >> So
above here is the format. Yeah. >> Here is correct for that. Exactly. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> And in any other way over the next month we can get this out. >> Yep. >> No. LCTV,
you know, we can't say it enough. >> Even even just a static page that looks between whatever Mark puts on there static page comes up and says reminder town meeting this date and sitter's available. >> Y. Okay, Gavy's point just
>> contact opportunity. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, let's see. I have us. >> Do you think it's better there or on the last line right before it says the select board welcomes your feedback right before we It has our names.
I >> I'm I'm not sure where it will stand out better. I mean, in a perfect world, the future ones, you'd have it in the the front cover on the corner like childc care available, you know, or some so because you get that in the mail, it's like, >> yep,
>> some people just I can't go to this. But if it's right there, >> but I don't want to tamper with, you know, that it's it's new. We we haven't had this really in the past, I don't think. Correct. >> Yes, we have. >> We have. Could it go somewhere on there?
>> We just haven't advertised it. >> We have >> in what way? On in the in the war. So, we do have precedent somewhere. >> So, um I don't feel strongly either way. I think it's the plot that's going to that
is going to get anybody's attention. >> Yeah. >> So, I think whether it's above here's the format in bold or Whether it's above the select board welcomes your feedback in bold. Um either one is fine with me. Um to
Chuck's point, we've got a lot of empty space on the back cover as well. >> A little fat bubble that the postage USPS doesn't want us to touch, but this is like a whole another half of that page. >> Yeah. >> Is touchable. Yeah. >> So, let's add a line on the back cover
as well. We need adult care available, too. So, that's up at the front table. [Music] Okay. What's next? >> Um, let's see. Okay. So, I have us
needing to vote still on 1 6 7 8 10. >> That one. No, seven. >> 11, right? I don't think on seven, right? No. >> Do we have seven? >> We We don't have enough information to vote on >> seven. We're going to wait on seven. It'll be seven on the recommendation pending. >> That's right. Okay. >> So, one or >> 6 8 10 11
>> 6 8 10 11. Well, 13. I had 13. >> 13. They're coming >> 13. We're going to wait until after the presentation, I think, and then we'll vote. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Yep. Make a motion. >> Make it. >> All right. A motion to recommend
articles 1 6 8 10 and 11. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? >> I. >> So Jim, the last one. So article 7 will say recommendations pending because
>> because we don't have anything. And then we are we going to try to vote tonight on 13 once we hear the >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So now now we just want to vote the order and then move on. >> I think moving number the amendment um
on the Shaker Lane funding of the previous vote to immediately after Shaker Lane seems like the only thing we need to do. >> So 12 this moves to number two. >> Yeah. >> And then your bills of prior years goes to number three. >> Sure. Yeah. I mean that's probably going to be consent.
>> Yep. Right. So >> Right. So >> prior years of prior years anymore on consent because it's >> Oh, you're right. You're right. >> Oh, right. >> So I catch >> just for clarity on the motion though, it's not what's up there because there
isn't a four >> correct >> that that four is not. >> So I don't know where the >> Okay. So one would be Shaker Lane exclusion. Two would be amend previous vote on Shaker Lane.
>> Three would be bills of prior years. >> Y >> four would be collective bargaining agreement. >> Yep. >> Five is the transfer from the trust funds. Six is accepting the Mass General law 200A. >> Seven, bylaw amendment to the Hawker
Peddler law. 8, 36 King Street transfer from stabilization. Nine, bylaw amendment regarding the posting of the warrant. 10. Increase the income limits for the senior circuit breaker. 11. Bylaw amendment regarding
the title director of veteran services. 12. Bylaw amendment regarding the title director of finance and budget. 13. Uh 13. Resolution on climate action. And 14 the citizens petition. >> Does that change your vote to earlier?
>> No, because we're changing it after. vote uh vote to uh or make a motion to recommend changes as defined by Matthew. >> We didn't say which numbers we vote. We just we support such >> the articles. I did say numbers though, so I want to make sure >> just Yeah, I'm going to motion to re as
I stated the motion to recommend um Matthew's order of the articles. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Uh, now we have to close it.
>> No, we have to wait for >> Oh, that's right. 13. >> We have to wait for 13. >> Thank you. >> Yep. >> All right. And >> I think we're up to 4D now. Town clerk, discussion of general code and updating of select board
regulations. Madame town clerk, >> good evening and thank you for having me. Um so the reason we're here this evening is um I think you all know that your regulations um have been worked on for several years um by several
different people um and including um Mr. Rambaka um and I think that we have uh kind of taken two steps forward and about 10 steps backward. Um we are trying um to really get it um up to uh
speed as to what actually in your regulations should be there. Um there are a lot of things that are in your regulations that are in our town code. There are things that are in there that don't really belong there any
longer. Um, so I've reached out to general code, had conversations with them, and they have explained that they are um willing to compare what we have in your regulations and how it compares to what we actually have in our general
code. They will do um an analysis um and present an analysis showing all of that. They will do the legal ease and tell us um what really will not affect if we
pull something out of your um regulations, but they will also tell us this is a duplicate, this is a triplicate, this really doesn't belong there. Um and they will explain everything as to how it compares, why it
shouldn't be there, and why it should actually be in your town code. And so that's why I'm here this evening to kind of tell you what I've been doing with Tom Code and why I think we should really move forward with this and um put it in their hands. They also will take a
look um because after about five or six years of doing all of our um bylaws, you know what their what their ability to do and what they're supposed to do is I send them what the attorney general approves. They put it in there. They
pull out the old, they send us everything and we put it into our books. But they don't necessarily have to go in and say, "Oh, pull it out of here and pull it out of there." So, what they will also do is look in our general code and say, "Oh, by the way, did you look at this code? You might want to pull
this out of there as well." So, they will also look at our code to say you might have something that's a duplicate or doesn't actually agree with another code that you have. So, they'll look at that as well. So, I'm here tonight to kind of get your blessing to look mo
mostly at your regulations and try and get them corrected and brought up to speed and um see what where you want to go. So, I'll add that as we've been going over the years updating our policy, we
still have one big massive policy document that doesn't necessarily get updated when we update our policies. there's like another document that says what you know what that those policies are like our the policy document I think that's out there on the website is
probably 10 years old now right and it doesn't reflect any of the changes that we've been working on um and because it is one massive document it's virtually impossible to change it's hard to search you know it still has all the financial policies and the HR handbook and
everything in it um and we've voted to take it out but we haven't updated it we don't really have the ability to easily update that document ourselves. So going to the town code model will make it easier um and having separate documents
or policies for all separate policy documents for everything will be so much easier to update. So I do have one question on the town code part as we update things is it possible then what happens to the history? Can people search what it used to be? How would
they do that on the list? what when it was updated and what town meeting and what article and all of that. So we I keep all of anything that was changed changed um in the vault. So any changes that were made are still um on file. It
wouldn't tell you what it was changed from, but we do have the record of it. >> You'd have to use the internet archives to get the old stuff. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Or come into our office and pull that paper out. >> Okay. >> Good oldfashioned way. So the organization that does this is
general code. >> General code. Who does our they do our uh town code now? >> The e-code. >> Yeah. Eode support. >> And so is this part of do we have a contract with them? Is this part of that contract? >> We have a contract with them. This is over and above um because it is such a
legal um legal ease so to speak and the the select board regulations isn't part of it. Um and it's never been part of it. So, um, we could possibly get it added in, um, because we're due next
year to upgrade, um, with a new contract and we could possibly get them to to start doing the regulations every year as well. So, anytime you add a new regulation or decide you want to get rid of a regulation, we can do that every
year. um or at a time at any of your meetings when you decide on a new policy if that policy is given to me I can send it off to general code and they will automatically upgrade it >> and and um you're just asking us to
start whether you should start this process. Is that what you're asking? >> I want your blessing and I can give them the go ahead tomorrow and they will give me a quote and I will know how much it's going to cost and >> Okay, that was my question. >> I see. I had a radio cost. >> I think that's Yeah, I'm in favor of
that of doing this. >> I just think that it's what you have on the website is just so old and it just is so >> brutal. It's horrible. I'm sorry, but >> it's just it needs to be it needs to be
done and so many people have worked on it and it just >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I feel like we're spinning our wheels. >> Yep. >> Me, too. >> Great. Um yeah, the only question I had is um I had the cost question, but the
uh where we're going the charter committee has a couple members here now going through a lot of these policies. So I think we're going to just have to make sure there's going to have to be some coordination here on how we they're going to make some recommendations based on what exists,
>> right? So there'll be a little bit of work on the back end of this depending on when it comes through. >> Yep. So that's the only >> if you know if I get your blessing tonight, I send the email out tomorrow, they can have something within a week. I would know and they said it would take
about a month. >> Okay. >> And have everything I don't foresee that >> would have a product online. >> It's part of our charge. I mean policies
>> Yeah. literally the select board's here for. So, >> right. >> Anything to improve that is going to be a huge help. >> Yeah. >> If I may through the chair. >> Yes. >> Is this um >> going to hit this current fiscal year or is this going to impact next fiscal year? >> No, I've got it in my budget.
>> You do. >> Trust me. >> It's on camera. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Yeah. Do >> Yeah, please. Thank you. All right. I'll do a uh move that the select board vote to support the analysis of the
regulation so that we can move forward with the project as defined by the clerk. >> I'll second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? I. >> Thank you. >> Right. Clean Lakes Committee. Uh Mark, do you want to speak to this one?
>> Sure. So, um the I've been to a couple of the Clean Lakes Committee meetings lately and um they've had a member that hasn't um appeared at the meetings in several years. They've reached out um to try and >> um figure out why he why why the absence
and they have had no luck um in getting him to attend. And so, they actually request that we remove him from the committee. Um, >> and this is for this isn't for a um this is like for a
backup chair, right? >> This is the alternate for >> Yeah. >> Um pond. >> Mil pond. >> Okay. >> No questions for me any >> official letter. >> All right. moved that the select board vote to approve the request of the Clean Lakes Committee to uphold the vote of
the committee on July 23rd, 2025 to remove member Luigi Lasello from the Clean Lakes Committee. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? I >> I >> All right. sustainability committee.
We have um the climate declaration article discussion and presentation and a presentation by Michelle Zelena. So, whoever's going to get started. Okay. >> Hi. Yes. Um, my name is Michelle Zelinka
and I'm the regional energy manager with the Northern Middle Sex Council of Governments. Um, I just wanted to provide an update on the climate action plan that I've been working with um, the Littleton Sustainability Committee. Um,
it's been uh, quite a process. We've, um, Oh, yes, thank you. Yeah, there's a presentation there. [Music] I think it's sorry it's the one after this presentation. >> Tell me when
you >> stealing all your thunder Charlotte. >> This >> Yes. >> There we go. >> Thank you. Yes. So I'm with the Northern Middle Sex Council of Governments. Um this is one of 13 regional planning
agencies established in Massachusetts. um regional planning agencies basically help with um increasing municipal capacity, providing planning services, um coordination, things like that. Um now, one thing you'll notice here is that Littleton is not part of the
Northern Middle Sex Council of Government's um uh part of their um uh municipalities. Um Littleton is part of the uh Metropolitan Area Planning Council. And so the reason why I'm here
is because of a um uh energy efficiency conservation block grant that the towns of Peral Dunstable um Littleton and Towns and received. So part of that grant was to assist the Littleton with the climate action plan. So that's why
um I'm conducting this work now and and working with the sustainability committee. And so I just wanted to kind of go over what a climate action plan is and why uh and how Littleton can benefit from one. Next slide, please. Um so we've all
heard about climate change, but just want to ensure that we're we're all on the same page. Um so climate change refers to shifts in weather patterns over time. Um these can be caused naturally, but um in recent years, this has been caused due to human activity.
um an overabundance of greenhouse gas emissions due to um industrial processes um traps in heat and this results in global heating. Now we tend to focus on the heating aspect but earth is a system so that creates additional challenges
like extreme weather, drought um as we're currently experiencing now. Um, so a climate action plan can identify a town or region's sources of pollution and then set targets for reducing these
emissions. Um, typically this goal is net zero by 2050. Um, that's part of the state's wider goal. But a climate action plan serves as a roadmap to um provide actions that a town can take to reduce pollution um as long as as well as um
prepare for the challenges associated with extreme weather and climate change. And now uh Littleton is not acting in isolation. As I mentioned um the Littleton is part of the metropolitan
area planning council or MAPC. Um, so there have been regional climate action plans that Littleton is is a part of and can kind of build off of that progress. Um, so for example, um, the MAPC has a priority climate action plan that sets
um, short-term goals for the region. Um, and then a more comprehensive climate action plan um, is also in the works for December 2025. And I just wanted to highlight this because Littleton is part of a wider region. Um so pollution
doesn't just stay within the town of Littleton. Um a lot of this effort is regional and Littleton can build off of um the suggestions and um the previous efforts. Um so highlighted here you can see um for the region um the it's the
greater Boston region which stretches obviously from kind of the um southern part of Boston all the way up to New Hampshire. Um so you can see buildings are the highest source of pollution within the region and then this is followed by transportation and um uh
energy generation or electricity generation. Next slide please. So uh I just wanted to quickly highlight that um Littleton kind of follows closely with the regional um pollution inventory. So um buildings represent the
highest source of pollution and then this is followed by transportation. Um and then waste is a very small component of that um percentage. And when we talk about um measures or actions that the town can take, we're
referring to um several sectors. So the main three are going to be energy, transportation or station stationary energy or buildings. Um but a climate action plan also includes um actions related to waste and then natural and um
agricultural lands. Waste and agriculture and natural lands. They comprise a very small percentage of pollution but they're very important in um mitigating some of the effects of climate change especially natural lands. So, a climate action plan includes
measures um related to those sectors as well. And then lastly, I just wanted to highlight that this isn't this sort of planning isn't new to Littleton. Um Littleton has made um a lot of progress toward their um pollution reduction
goals. And so I have some examples on the next slide here. So um within the building sector, we have the green communities projects. Um the Littleton Electric Light and Water Department has made a lot of progress in um supporting
renewable energy in town. Um and then of course the hazard mitigation planning efforts. And then uh the town's master plan also has um provisions to um help guide the town and prepare it for um
climate change as well. So this isn't something new. Um >> we want you here. >> No. We going backwards now >> cuz you're done there. >> Yeah. All I had was um I just had a road
map. Um so currently we are kind of conducting focus groups with um different groups in town and um uh like planning departments and then um we have a townwide survey that is active. Um, so
I had a Q QR code for that survey. Um, and just wanted to highlight that >> we got the email today about the survey. >> Okay, great. >> See, >> so >> yeah,
it's not in there. >> Thank you. >> QR code. >> No worries. >> Didn't translate. Well, yeah. Thank you so much for uh letting me provide you with updates on the climate action plan and um happy to take any questions or >> is the climate action plan needed for
the I forgot what it the green communities 2.0 whatever I forget how they rebranded. >> Oh, like climate leaders. >> Yes. >> Yeah, there is a um I believe a requirement for like a net zero action plan like some sort of kind of road map um for that.
So, for those not familiar, the green community, the the climate leaders, is that what it's called? >> Yes. >> Um, it's like green communities on steroids. Like, there's a lot more money available for projects. Um, like we're very limited in what we can get now. It's basically replacing light bulbs and
things, but the the 2.0 there's grants for like over $100,000 for projects and things that would be available. >> It's for kind of more, I guess you could call it like deeper retrofits. Um, so kind of fuel switching and and things like that. Um, yeah.
>> Great. >> Great. >> Thank you for your time. Thank you. >> So, let's do this thing now. >> Hi, good evening everybody. Charlotte Dylan's co-chair of the sustainability committee. Um, thanks so much for for
having us all here tonight. Um so we're just going to make a very brief presentation about the climate emergency declaration. If you go to the next slide. So briefly what is climate emergency declaration and why are we talking about this now.
So a climate emergency declaration is essentially a non-binding statement by the town that would recognize climate change as an urgent threat. It would commit Littleton to creating the climate action plan um that Michelle was just talking about. Um and it also signals
the need for this kind of communitywide collaboration um around sustainability and resilience. Um and the reason that we're talking about this now um is obviously that we're already feeling some of the effects of climate change um heat, storms, flooding, etc. droughts as
Michelle mentioned. Um also the ball's already rolling. um 2400 governments including Lexington, Actton, Concord, so some of our neighbors um are already making similar declarations around a climate emergency. Um and for Littleton, you know, the sooner we plan this, that
means the more effective and more affordable our solutions are going to be that we can propose for our town. Um so the Littleton Sustainability Committee has drafted up a declaration that recognizes the urgency of the climate crisis. It lines up with the
state's net zero by 2050 target. Um, and it sets the stage for creating this climate action plan for Littleton. So, very briefly, this is uh the draft. Glad I printed out a copy cuz that's really tiny writing. >> Can't read that.
>> Um, so first of all, um, it essentially acknowledges that we are living in a world with rapid climate change. Um, and it acknowledges also the importance of protecting our environment. um and are that we can envision um a better and
more sustainable future. Um secondly, it acknowledges that like other communities, we are experiencing the effects of climate change across you know the breadth and depth of our community. And then thirdly, it essentially resolves that we the residents of the
town of Littleton um declare that this is a climate emergency and that it is a threat to our town um and to our residents, our communities, our businesses, etc. After that, it resolves that we, the residents and members of Littleton, um
we call on our town government, we call on our community, we call on our businesses, we call on our state leadership as well um to support our efforts in reducing our emissions and actually meeting some of these climate targets. And then finally, um it resolves that
this climate action effort, whatever the shape that would take for Littleton, um would be the benefits, the costs, etc. would be distributed fairly um amongst our residents and and that would also include the provision for the protection of our natural resources including our
trees, our open spaces and the places that we all love so much in Littleton. Next slide. So what will the climate emergency declaration do for Littleton? What it will do will be to sort of set a tone um
for an a coordinated action. It would guide the development of this climate action plan and it would also strengthen Littleton's opportunities to apply for grants um and to have these kind of regional partnerships that would also help us out. Importantly, what it would
not do, it does not impose any kind of a mandate on a resident or any of our businesses. It does not commit funding without additional public input. And it does not require immediate changes to our bylaws, zoning, budgets, etc. that would have to follow community input and
planning as per normal channels. So it's not a mandate, it's a statement of our direction. It's um essentially an intention setting. It's a sort of our collective vision for the future that we want to see in Littleton. So we've
proposed an article for the full town meeting which would ask Littleton residents to formally declare that climate change is an emergency um and a threat to our community. um and that we continue to plan um and
that we continue to take action to reduce our emissions to protect our open spaces and our resources um and that uh we essentially commit to ensuring a sustainable and resilient future for Littleton. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Questions? >> So, I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the work the sustainability committee has put into this. It was a tremendous amount of work. um and it's very much appreciated. I um personally I see this as more of a
reflection of our values that we already have and um I think it's important to codify that and to set um goals for what we wanted to do in the future. So I appreciate the way this was structured very much.
>> When when when do we start doing mandates? I mean, I think um I I obviously I'm in favor of this and I appreciate your leadership and I think it would be very
important to start talking about how how you enact some of these things. How are we going to how are we actually going to get to net zero by 2050? um we have to make those decisions starting now if we want to have a realistic chance of doing it which means we're talking to the facilities director
and we're talking to the um the building you know municipal building um committee and yeah so >> no I guess there isn't a question there but no I I I want to keep I want to keep moving and this is a good first step but it's not it's not the goal right
>> so maybe just a comment back to that is uh as Michelle mentioned with the climate action plan. That is one way we can get very granular about what Littleton actually wants to do and the steps that we would take. Um and the public forum is also a great way for the public to kind of communicate what
exactly they do want and what they don't want um out of that as well. Um and then we've had quite a few conversations within the committee about just capturing the work that's already been um that's already been going on in Littleton as well. velment for instance with the Shaker Lane school project and
the fact that's already going to be lead silver and we're already looking at many of the buildings and municipal buildings in town reducing their footprint um through existing kind of mechanisms. But yeah, I mean 100% agree and the more that we can participate in those discussions I think and and kind of lend
that lens to the planning in town the better. >> Thank you. >> I'm all in favor of this. Um I think yeah I I think this is a good first step. I think there's a lot of steps that come after this. Um, but this is a good way of like getting it out there
that we're on this track. So, >> um, I just put, you know, to answer one of your questions is, um, it's the state needs to put the money where their mouth is on some of this. You know, if you start showing communities, they're they're serious about it financially and
you're going to offer assistance because there is a cost to this obviously. Um and then our partners, you know, LED, it's a huge component talking about the power piece to this. Um just kind of communicating with them, getting them board so they have the same vision that
the town and the community does. So this is the first step, you know, but that's one of the our major links, you know, is where where LL fits into this outside, you know, just the community in general. I I also think it's important to recognize that we can make choices that
might have a longer term payoff. >> Oh, sure. >> Or or or or a choice that's 1% more expensive but saves 20% in terms of energy use. And I think just saying like, well, the state has to pay us to do this is not is not quite right. Like
we we have to take some we have to have some skin in the game. >> Oh, we will. I'm just saying the incent incentivizing it, you know, you're talking about members of the community, this board, but when you're when you're dealing with energy companies and all of the other things that come into this,
there's so many more pieces that we need to drive drive home with. That's all I >> um but this is this is setting us in motion to um where we want to be by 2050. >> I think some of it is cost, but a lot of it is just education, too. when people
find out that it doesn't really cost as much as they think. Everyone thinks all these climate things are so expensive and they're not. We went through this with the Shaker Lane when we were looking at the all electric building and um and the and the system we ended up designing that turns out that the
system's basically the same cost when you factor in its lifetime, but the energy savings was huge and we weren't even factoring that into the cost when we were originally planning it. So, um just these type of things and like when when you build um some of the the green
buildings where people basically have no energy cost or almost no energy cost, you spent a little bit more to build the building, but the payoff is enormous. So, quick I um what is the the second level of green communities? Select
>> leaders, climate leaders, >> climate leaders. I think that um dating back to before I was on select board on school committee with Keith's help largely um we we did a lot and one of the reasons we
don't get much from green communities anymore is because we got so much in the beginning because Keith was on the front edge of that and we we we played along you know and we he found opportunities or the schools found opportunities and we we just found ways to make that money work for us. And then more and more communities signed on. So they had to
share it. And so hopefully we can be the kind of leaders with this new tier >> as we were early on when when green communities funding that goes to the funding part as well. Um you know if the state's going to make more funding available, let's get after it and try to find any way we can to
>> and I think with green communities we've taken advantages of as much as we can and we're just running out of little projects that we'll that we can fund through green communities. the the new ones are just costing more than we could get funding for. >> Thank you very much.
>> Yep. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Um, do we want to take a motion to recommend 13 now? >> Yeah. >> Can I suggest article 13 says it's a select port article? It should probably say select sustainability committee
as the ones bringing the article forward. >> I agree. You got you got >> recommend or excuse me move that the select board recommend article 13. >> Second.
>> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? I >> thank you guys. It's a start. >> We go. Thank you very much. >> Now we close the warrant >> now. Too easy to go back to that. >> Sure. No, >> Gary. Gary can make it up.
>> He's got it. >> Do I Do I though find it? >> It's way back. >> I'm just moving to close the war, right? >> Second set. >> Oh, damn it. >> Move that the select board. >> I had a perfect
the October 28 special town meeting. I want to move that the select board. >> Mark seconded. >> We'll say moved it. >> I second. >> All right. Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Mark. >> All those in favor? I.
>> The war is clear. >> I did it the first time Gary did it. It was >> shorter. I don't want people to get confused that it wasn't October 28th. >> Hooray. All right. Next, we've got uh 4G. This is a fun
one. Human resources. Yeah. [Music] So, uh, Madame Chairwoman and, uh, members of the of the select board, I will I just wanted, as I kept you updated, we
had a very very strong, um, interest in the assistant town administrator's position. And uh we collectively as an internal team, as part of a leadership team, we really try to look at what what kind of experience do we want
that next person to have. Do we want them to have finance experience more so than planning experience or HR experience or uh DPW experience? Uh uh so we really um and we we concluded and
I want to uh thank the finance director, the fire chief and the um uh uh human resource director for uh being such a vital uh vital component uh team members for the process and um there were 40 applicants uh of
which we narrowed it down to uh the first round was going to be seven in which We identified the top seven uh and we had uh we had a we had a plan B underneath underneath those seven uh to do that. But and then we went through uh
through the seventh uh and really it was um Tony uh really he rose to rose to the surface, rose to the top. And one of the thing that one of the things that the team commented after was the experience
in in m in multiple areas with being MCPPO certified and uh a um certified uh he's a certified planner and uh considering how much activity we have and growth that the community is
currently in and the potential uh as we continue to grow um it was uh we thought that uh you know sticking to really focusing or really uh looking at the planning experience within with all all
the individuals would uh uh would help would help be be in the best interest of the community. Um so with that uh uh I made the we've had conversations with uh with Tony Soua. Tony is currently the assistant town manager for the town of
of Oxford. He has been at the town of Oxford since uh 2020. Uh in his current role as assistant town manager since 2022. Um he clearly has a balance of experience between
um larger mid-range uh cities and uh uh smaller uh smaller communities. And I believe Oxford is 16,000 16,000 uh individuals uh residents there. And um it's something that uh you know focused
as as a planner within community development and uh it's but it's something that uh I think we all uh felt uh really really very very good about this and about about Tony. We think he would be a great fit for the team
because the team here is so strong as I you've heard me say time and time again. Uh everybody the employees just all all the way around. Um, yes, you too. careful >> officials
>> and uh but uh but collectively uh the interview team thought that uh to fit right in and uh we feel uh we feel good about it and uh we'd like uh to respectfully request that you affirm uh
the uh appointment of uh Tony Susa as the next Littleton assistant town administrator. Thanks. >> Yeah. >> Come on up. >> Come on up. This is your next interview.
>> Good evening. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm really thrilled >> still. >> Yes. We thought we'd wear you down after Great to be here. Great to be here. I'm very excited. and um Littleton came to be a great great fit. The more I learn
about this community, the more I want to learn more and under the town administrator's leadership working alongside with you and the awesome staff here. Very, very much looking forward to this opportunity. So, thank you. >> Thank you. We're um we're thrilled to
have you join us. Um your experience is really just a perfect fit for our community, I think, and where we are and where we're headed. uh and we're really pleased that you uh you decided to join us. So, welcome. >> Thank you. >> Uh same, thanks thank you for applying.
Um >> you know, I I I'm one of those HR geeks that I you know, I I did my own research and you know, I told you I told you >> dug through it, you know, just a great record, you know, and I, you know, you and I I noticed uh Joe Lane kind of
popped up, some of you may know, uh working on the the 20 project and things like that. So, um, he was, um, a fantastic planner for us as a ATA. So, I I think, um, anything like him, uh, you're going to fit us very well and especially in the all the all the work
and projects we have going on. Um, plus Jim needs, uh, a little help, I think, also at the at the top just to kind of, you know, he's going to only get grayer, so it's possible. So, no, thank you very much for um
joining the team. >> Thank you. >> You echo what what my colleagues have said. I think it's exciting that your economic development and your planning background. Um I don't know that we have an appetite for a casino, but it's nice that you have that background. If if
Sali gets a hold of you, we might we'll never know what we're going to get. Just kidding. Um >> spinning pizza. I also noticed that uh I had some friends that went to Pope John and you you were involved in in the transition into affordable housing. I think that might have had something to do might have pulled a little
heartstring from our town administrator when he saw that that you had been involved in a project like that. Um no, I think like everybody said this you've definitely got the the chops and uh we look forward to you know working together and doing great things.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. I I think it's a bold choice starting a week before town meeting. >> So, but um welcome. I look forward to working with you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> I look forward to it. I think you're a good hire. I do have one question for
Michelle. In the last booklet, it was the the assistant was town administrator was a TW grade 20 and now it's this is a 19. It said assistant town minister finance director. Did we reclassify it when we took off the finance director?
>> Yes. So, I worked with the Colin Center who is doing our current class and comp study right now and they suggested um the 19 would work for stripping out that finance director. >> Okay. We just can we just make sure everything's updated to effect like that. So,
>> yeah, I think the finance director is a great controlling element that moves it up one. >> Cool. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay, let's go. >> Awesome. All right. Move that the select board vote to appoint Tony Susa as assistant
town administrator at grade 19, step 7, effective October 20th, 2025. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? >> I. >> Welcome. Yeah. I did my hair. >> Get out of it.
>> I spent a lot of time doing my hair. Wait a minute. >> Wait. Oxford knows about this, right? >> Wait a second. You guys didn't take a picture when I got my phone. >> No, we want we want to see the progression. We did that. >> That was in a dark hallway that we had
to take a picture. Come on, Jim. >> No, got to get it. >> You're higher. >> I know. >> Then all of you guys get out and I'll stand there. >> No, no, no. >> You want this?
>> My father used to say, "Go play. Go play." >> You have to bring up the chair in the middle. >> Okay. Hey there. >> Don't worry, I won't do anything funny with these pictures.
>> Don't even have the ball coming. Congratulations. >> Oh, yeah. Considering I need the help, right? >> Really? Oh, your kids. >> I don't know how you do it. >> I don't know how you do it. How you
done? >> Thank congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Good stuff, Jeff. >> Yeah, he's a nice kid. >> Oh, he's >> he's going to be great. I don't think I get enough of you. What's that? Think after you think I get enough? Not just
It's okay. It's all right. It's all right. It'll be >> all right. It's 8:15, >> so it must be time for public input. >> Somebody forgot their glasses. So, first you >> Oh, mine. >> James
to see why we need an ATA now. >> Thank you. Exactly. >> I help them. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Rob rounds 25 Juniper Road. Um I raised my hand as you were discussing the warrant before it was closed tried
to get attention. Article six I had a question. Um with regard to petitioning and so you you folks are familiar because of the safety zone that again I thank you for taking the action that you did. I did knock on doors. I was an individual. I
didn't have an organization. Annelise is here representing you know Yes. for Littleton. as an organization. My question, you know, those two trigger points, if you will, as well as you folks all live to get, I don't know, what is 50 signatures or something like
that, you know, to be elected. If you were to knock on doors, if I'm to knock on doors, I'd like clarification if I can with regard to is this broad language such that >> I can't go knock on, you know, doors, etc. or is it such that Ann lease and
yes for Littleton have to now comply with >> this proposed you know article >> so I'm going to go out on a limb I'm not Diane but um under there they're under the exceptions there's an exception for political and for public policy purposes so political purposes would definitely
qualify for analise and public policy would be you know speed limits on >> Thank you. I I wanted to just make certain of that before we get to town meeting. Thank you. Yep. >> I think that's an amendment. >> Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Pertaining
to article one, um my question, so I think there's a lot of precedent language. I know I've written to all of you. I don't hear any discussion of it as you close the article. Disappointed with regard to the arguments that I made
that it didn't merit any conversation among you. Um just park that. Um, on page one of the town report in that town code 41-3, it identifies town board recommendations. That's where I was going with my statements. You know, you
allow finance committee even when there's not a finance committee budget report, yet you allow finance committee to routinely comment on anything in a special town meeting. I think that's worthy then of some of the
considerations that I made with regard to park and wreck. In my letter to you, I tried to point out how some of your working committees etc are often filled with things like park and wreck, sustainability, could add disabilities.
I in the last six weeks have approached those different groups. Some of them have actually said we got in this too late. Okay, well that's not on me. And yet I I broke through in some got their endorsements. I didn't break through in others. All of this is with a eye
towards trying to inform the public and in this instance with regard article one and I appreciate what you addressed earlier tonight. So thank you. The connection with regard to the ballot that's an important distinction makes this article somewhat unique. Most of
your town meaning articles don't have a ballot required you know element to it. this one does. And therefore, the document as far as I'm concerned is this town meeting report. This is last year's, not not this year's. But this is
the piece that gets mailed to every household that's occupied. Uh it's not the special newsletter that's going to come out. I'm applaud you for doing that. It's not the 01460 that people will see. It's not meetings that people can see on LCTV. This is the thing that
gets mailed and informed to everybody. And hence I view this is the only document that we have a chance to inform that you have a chance to inform the public of what's going on with that. I want to point to this you know your your
first page one your paragraph of 41-3 the the uh town code it says recommendations and that goes on if any and concise explanations of each article including the financial impact of financial articles. Okay, with regard to
article one, it's the biggest item that's come before the town dollar value. In my understanding, it's the biggest ever. So, I think it's got significant repercussions. I want to go back to where I know you all there. The MBTA vote, the town voted
that down two times before they voted it down a third. If the town votes this down, the kids in our school and our public deal with 7 to 10 years of delay to young learners. That's one aspect of
it. Another aspect is a part that I don't see anything in the warrant right now of article one. I haven't seen anything with regard to Brian's statement, the discussion you've had now at two select board meetings or joint meetings with fin with regard to the triggering effect that the consequences
financially with regard to a no vote are quite devastating in terms of their implications. You've you've had a extensive discussion and I applaud you for it. I I become more informed each and every time as I hear the latest
iteration with regard to town council and the different elements of Henry with regard to what's going to be triggered and what's not. But with regard to it being silent right now, I don't know how the public's informed with regard to the
ballot question with regard to the implications of this vote and therefore everything that you can do which I think in 41-3 you've got the ability to do it with regard to what's the financial implications of the vote. So I
appreciate your time. I know that I could go on for a long time, so I'll just be quiet. But I can't I can't overstate, I think, how I think that an informed public
needs to exist on matters of importance, and this is an extreme matter of importance from many elements. Lastly, I appreciate the child friendly and everything that you folks can do and it was said earlier tonight, put on the
cover, wherever you put it. The part that I continue to think that's underplayed by my generation versus the young generation that exists with the parents that I'm talking to pretty routinely, regularly now. They don't use
babysitters. Earlier tonight, you talked about the 7:00 and then it's 7:15, 7:30. Goodness, it's going to easily be 7:30. If we don't end debate, it's going to be 8:00, 8:30, and those parents, their kids are in bed. So, I'm going to lose a whole bunch
of informed public that have taken the time to be put informed and they're going home because they can't stay out this late. And that's it's a problem for our community. But I'm trying to point out how different elements can bring our community together with informed and get
voters on the record with what they want as opposed to more or less overcoming and overcoming or losing, if you will, an informed public and votes um because they can't do it. They have to get their
kids to bed so they can wake up the next morning to go to school. So, thank you for all your time. >> I'm just going to note that as a former working parent um who had a commute and who had three young children all at the same time, they were all little all at once. It was the dumbest thing I've
done. But anyway, um parents have to be able to get home and they have to be able to feed their kids before they can come back out. And so there's just we're either gonna lose people because they're not going to be able to get there in time or we're going to lose people because they can't stay
that late. >> And I appreciate where, you know, I I agonized over that one. Um but I think it's, you know, I I the the tiebreaker for me was and I do view it as a tie. I think
it's roughly the same kids that we're talking about. Um the tiebreaker for me was if we change the time, how many people are going to be thrown off by that? >> And so I wanted to stick with what we've been doing.
>> And so I I respect that and and I certainly understand and and recognize that. I I think >> the part that maybe I spoke in general where I'm was thinking I was addressing was with regard to the cafeteria. I think it's great to identify the
cafeteria as child- friendly. I know that um that we think the gymnasium is child friendly. I'd argue it's not. It's not at all. >> Not super. >> And therefore, I heard some boilerplate make this routine sort of comment. I
think that's a great idea. I think this should be just that way we can still in the public it I can make it work or I missed that one but now I understand how it can work and how I can keep my eyes on my kids and that would be the element that I'd say at the National Honor
Society I tried to say a month ago at at this meeting the youngest generation their kids aren't going off with National Honor Society they're not they don't their their parents grandparents etc. it doesn't happen and therefore as much
as that's an accommodation for my generation would see it fine but it doesn't work for this one and I also again in closing so spoken with some young moms who who say you know this vote's down they're crying and they're
talking about leaving because they can't stomach what's what exists right now kudos to superintendent trying to put you make it as best as they can, but that that building is a problem and it needs
to be done and we don't get MBTA. You got three cracks to get the community, you know, on board. We don't get that. This is a it happens or it doesn't. So, everything that you can do, whether it's identifying the triggering or aspects of the article, you got to point out to as
many people as we can. So, appreciate the extra time. >> Thank you. >> Mark, were you going to say something? I So at one point we tried Saturdays and they didn't work any better. We didn't have any better turnout when we tried Saturdays. >> Yeah, because everybody's got got to get their kids to all the
>> you know things. So >> hi. >> Hi everybody. Um Annalise Taber, 291 Goldmith Street. I am the chair of the Yes for Littleton ballot question committee in support of Shaker Lane School. You all know me by now. Hold on. Um just sort of seconding what Rob said.
So my I've been working on some marketing materials around getting out, you know, the word about child care at town meeting and uh so I was wondering if on the front I don't know if it's loot point now but on the front of the
um the document it says you know the little middle school um gymnasium. I was wondering if it would make sense to say gymnasium and cafeteria as like literally the location of town meeting would not just be the gymnasium. It would be both moving forward.
Just a just a thought. And then that way it would be right on the front cover. It would be on all the materials everywhere. >> It would be, you know, it is now in these two locations. And you could even say something along the lines of childfriendly, familyfriendly, voting,
however you wanted to word smith it. Um, that was sort of just when I was working on my marketing piece, I was thinking that. Um, so whatever you do end up choosing, um, our print deadline is coming up as well, so just let me know. Um,
and just thank you all for your support of the project. Um, and uh, thank you to FinCom as well, though they're not here anymore, but just wanted to thank everybody. >> Do you want to announce any upcoming events? >> Oh boy. Yes, we have a bre Thank you.
Uh, we have a breakfast. Yeah, we have a breakfast uh, tomorrow morning hours from now. um 9:30 at the senior center. Um >> and you don't have to be a senior to go. >> You don't have to be a senior to go. I promise. >> Is it an informational session? >> Yes. Thank you for I'm glad I have my
notebook with me. >> What's that? >> And food. >> And food. Right. >> So, it's a it's a free breakfast um and um an info session. So, you'll be able to ask questions of um Dr. Clenchy will be there, the superintendent, um members of the building committee will be there,
um members of the um I believe Mary Lee will be there. She's the architect of the Shaker Lane project. So, um really good place to be if you have questions and also of course a free breakfast. So, not not a bad not a bad gig. Um so, that's 9:30 and then now you've got me
on a roll cuz I've got my notes. So, um, our next or the next Shaker Lane community forum, which is hosted by the building committee, that's on the 29th of September at 6:00 p.m. at Shaker Lane School.
And then the there is another community forum um on Saturday, October 18th, and that's 4:00 p.m. at the center, the senior center. And then on the 21st, which is a Tuesday, I believe the 21st of October
is the final info session and tour um at Shaker Lane School. And that starts at 6:30. >> This actually I I was wondering this um during the building committee, Steve, maybe you know that September meeting, is that at Shaker Lane, is that also a
tour >> or is that just the meeting? >> Just a forum. >> Community forum. >> Just the forum. Yeah. So, the last tour, the only other tour we have on the books is the 21st of October. >> Okay. >> Um, and again, that's all hosted by the building committee. Um,
>> so yeah, so these four events are hosted by the town. Um, >> so, >> thank you. Thank you for that question. That was fantastic. I appreciate that. >> Thank you. All right. Member updates. Let's see.
Uh I went to the um MAPC council meeting. It was an orientation. It's very informative. Um and I attended the Shaker Lane building committee meeting the other night. Um and also
the amount of time that the building committee has put into this effort is just so impressive. And we we really owe everybody on that committee a huge debt. And there's folks that started out on that committee um like Stacy Scott from
school committee who aren't on there now but also put in a tremendous amount of effort and it's really appreciated. >> Um the lab 9 tour was that really after our last meeting? >> Yeah, >> man. All right. So, we went to um look
at Lab 9's facilities um and the ones here in Littleton and uh there was a um Jimmy Jim Marcier was there um along with his chief of staff and a um representative from Jamie Eldridge's um
office as well. We got a tour of um the factory and where they um put these um units together. um they're just doing really really cool things that um it's it's exciting to see
and um they've got lots of potential. Couple um a new project that they've got in the works that I thought was really interesting is um it was just in the globe actually. You're going to be able to go through SEC airport security in like
Framingham and get on a bus and go to the airport and not have to go through security at all. You're you're done. >> Wow. >> Um and they have the I guess uh Lab 9 has the contract to create those um
>> those satellite off things because part of the I guess part of the requirement was that they had to be able to pick them up and put them into another test location. So it was right up their alley. But um many thanks to them for for hosting us and and for um all the great information that they shared. That's all from me.
>> Nothing for me tonight. Oh, I have a bunch of stuff. Um so I attended the um um MAPC had a um affordable housing trust round table last Thursday. Uh there was a lot of
talk about the um a real estate transfer tax on large um large expensive properties. Basically uh communities have been petitioning for the right to uh add an extra levy
basically on the transfer um and the the a money would go to affordable housing. >> Would that be any property or just residential? >> I believe it was residential prop. The base proposal is residential properties over a million dollars, but communities can set the threshold and
communities can set the percentage. So, that's working its way through the legislatures. Now, um Gary and I uh toward the Baptist church last week um looking at potentials for that. Um
there um the Littleton road race was on was yesterday. Uh we had a great turnout and thanks to everyone that volunteered, ran, thanks to highway, fire, police, and everyone for their support. Um it was beautiful weather and a great event
and it's just a nice community event. So um I also before our next meeting there's several things coming up. The Lysum's holding a program on October 3rd with a musical group called the Love Dogs. Um, which sounds uh very it's
actually looks very good. And there's several events going on on October 4th, October Fest, the country fair, and the fire station's holding an open house. So, you can spend your day going around getting free food and apparently uh beer now over at October Fest. Um,
the I went to the last charter committee meeting. They're going to have a public forum on October 14th in the senior center. Um, and finally, I'm holding office hours this Wednesday, 4 to 6. >> That's right. Office hours are back.
>> That's all I have. >> All right, Gary. >> Right. I will mention that office hours will be scattered a little bit more. Um, not locking into a specific time. So, we're going to you can see maybe see it on a Monday at different hours, a Friday. just give people more
flexibility to show up um as well as us more flexibility to attend. Um and a couple things uh just schedule-wise um keep in mind uh was it trunk or treat is October 25th? So that's another event on
top of the um October Fest. >> It's a big one. >> Um let's see. We uh many of us attended um Mrs. Pernard's funeral and and wake. Um so just uh keep keep Chief Pernard's
family in your thoughts. Um we also found out today that last night uh Deputy Patterson's mother-in-law passed away. So um they're in our thoughts as well. Um couple uh good things. Uh tennis courts
are done. I know. I saw that came out in our our uh our write up, but um and no pickle ball on the new tennis courts. >> You have to go to the high school to use those courts for pickle ball. Um but >> and where are the new courts located, Gary?
>> Right next to the middle school. So, four beautiful, newly lined fenced courts. So, uh take advantage um of the uh the exercise. Um I had uh let's see
DPW um final touches on the crosswalks um that those of you I know we brought it up I think last time but you know we've got a lot of crosswalks haven't that had a lot of work done um visibly noticed driving you know the lights
flashing catches your eye on a lot of those but not just that but some of the other ones that are aligned and we're going to continue to work um with DPW and state to get get make sure that we're you know trying to get as safe as we can on our roads uh as our community
grows. Um let's see. Um like Mark had mentioned uh we we visited uh the Bapt First Baptist Church on the common. This is um an iconic building in town. Uh we met with the uh the church leaders
um who have some sad news uh that the the facility will probably be coming up for sale um and they wanted to reach out to the town. We we we reached went in and looked at it and uh we have a lot of lot more to come
on this. Um but the historic value of the of that that structure and other things is going to take the help of the community to really find out um what we can do uh with that building. Uh you whether there's nonprofits, we can get into a lot of things. I think we're
going to try to get a subcommittee together to brainstorm community leaders and things like that. I I do believe the building is that important uh to the center, especially um as it as the downtown grows. Um just to have have that space be something um is Westford
has the rod and bush to give you an example. Um Actton has a few other buildings as well. You know, theater 3, things like that. So, uh just more to come on that, but we're just kind of exploring different options and and some of the protections we can put on that building.
Um, let's see. Oh, I mentioned Jim. I noticed today reminded me uh I think when we get any new employees, I think you should bring them in. I know with this we have like the police I know come in all the time
and some of the um obviously the ATA and some of our department heads but any employee I think if you have them come in on one of our nights just introduce them and so we can put a face to the you know whoever it is the new name the new person working in finance I don't >> so that's all something something to
think about >> um we I you know we had talked offline a little bit about some of the uh more work to be done on speed limits. Um, Shadic Street, some of the discussion on how this is going to be configured over
the next year, whether it remains a one-way, and Karen had mentioned, whether there's a different routing system there. A lot of things to come on that. Um, but not just Shadic Street, but other other streets as as well. I, you know, I I brought up a joke that somebody a resident on Russell Street um
had said to me that they were wondering when we're going to pave Russell Street. It's been a couple years now. It's really bumpy through there. Um and I said, "Well, like I think soon." He says, "Well, please don't because traffic now is going like 20 miles an hour." So, um a little uh you know,
tongue and cheek there, but um so something to think about. We're going to start looking at really just an overall look at all of our our our streets and see where we can be be safer community as I said as traffic increases and our community growth. Um,
let's see. What else did I have? I I will I have to say it because I had members on Shadic Street come up to me. They a no parking sign is gone that was on Shadic in front of the senior center. I I don't recall seeing one there, but I don't know.
Is it a parkable space right in front of the building out on Shadic or not? I don't know. >> I didn't think so. What? >> Well, we'll just they obviously if you're a neighbor in a neighborhood and you see a sign that's no longer there, people are going to speak what happened. Um
I think that's really that's a lot, but and once again, welcome to our uh new police officer and uh our new assistant town minister. >> All right, >> minutes. No town administrator update.
I'll be brief, Madam Chairwoman. Uh just to let everyone know, uh we uh continue to work uh >> that was out of >> with the uh owner and developer of 550 King Street of uh and uh one of the most
recent tenants, Precision Optics, uh which has uh slowly been moving into to the building. that is uh a company that had relocated from Gardener to Littleton. As a result, they were busting out at the seams. And
uh if you remember through the letter of support uh that uh you had approved uh that I that I sent to them encouraging them to uh relocate here and why of all the advantages they were uh they were
back they were in front of the EAC which is an act of the economic development incentive program. Uh that's EDIP and um through the executive office of economic development for the state and they were
awarded last Wednesday $1,290,000 um uh for a state uh tax credit award and that is a result of as a direct result of them um with their expansion they're going to create 86 new jobs that are going to be here. So that is
fantastic. Thank you to Mr. Lei for the for the efforts uh on on that on that part. Uh the center on Shadic Street uh the books are closed and we are looking at um under budget and that under budget
is in the in the in the tune of approximately $480,000 but in all likelihood that's probably going to be a little bit more. >> And that does not mean we're going to get that money back with the change order that's coming in. the change order is coming back.
>> Um that change order, it just decreases that that amount to the contract uh in which we had with Commodore Builders. So ultimately it's less that's turned around that we have to uh bond for permanent financing. So which is which
is great news. um council cultural council was awarded a grant of $7,000 and uh which is uh something they do uh fantastic things with that. Um we also
uh let me see uh also oh today uh today the uh chief um chief mccertie and I uh attended a building care in the region that was uh hosted by UMass Medical Center uh and honor a guests of the
governor and congress congresswoman Trhan were there and it was the new location for the satellite center and one one point that they really emphasized size was was there's a big enough area there as much as there's going to be an area for uh to land a
helicopter and and and things of that nature uh for emergency services, but it's also the land that it's at. It's on Main Street in Grten that 490 Main Street and uh that is going to um enough
land there for expansion. So as much as it's going to be a satellite emergency facility at at first there will be expansion plans and that's going to be aggressively pursued because at this point a a year ago around this time you
know we had all the communities were were pretty upset and and very very concerned and taken appropriate action and as a direct result the UMass uh UMass Medical Center uh stepped up and they did a tremendous amount of uh
researching and trying to identify uh proper locations and sites. Uh and uh that was uh the the site that uh uh that won the final vote and now it's uh you know an aggressive push to start
building permitting and stop building uh for there to kind of balance off now the emergency services uh that will have someplace else to go and uh uh so it was very very well attended and everyone's excited about it but and that's it. Thank you.
>> Okay. Um, I went out of order there. Sorry, folks. Um, so back to appointments. Appointing Jim Garity to the Conservation Commission >> and some guy named Gary Wilson.
>> I can do the I can do the first >> LCTV. Um, yeah. >> Any questions? >> Okay. >> Nope. Move that the select board vote to appoint Jim Gity as an associate member of the conservation commission for a term expiring June 30th, 2026.
>> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? >> I. >> Thank you, Mr. Gity. >> Get sworn in. >> Get sworn in. >> I cannot appoint myself to the next one, but um >> Oh, do we have enough to vote for this one?
>> Yeah, we have a quorum. >> Yep, we have a quorum. I've I've served on the uh LCTV committee for um couple years now since I >> move that the select board vote to appoint Gary Wilson as a member of the Littleton Community Television Advisory Committee for a term expiring June 30th,
2027. >> Second a ringing endorsement >> moved by Matthew begrudgingly >> seconded by Mark. All those in favor I >> comes around goes around.
>> All right. Um let's talk about the orchard. >> So >> yeah, so we um I think everyone's seen the report from MAPC. Um and we just said we were going to have a discussion at it on it at some point. Um we can do
it now or we can do it at a later meeting rather. But um the report um they got a lot of feedback from the residents from our two public forums. Um I don't I don't know what you want to
fill in, Matthew. And I I mean I think it's useful I think it's useful in two ways. I think it does do a good job of outlining the concerns that people have and I think it's going to guide if we have to go through a process again in the near future to do to decide to do
something with the orchard. I think it would help guide us. >> Um, but I think we're in a fortunate position of having a really first rate tenant that's likely to be there for 30 years and that we're not going to have to really like struggle with it um the way we did over the last five years. So,
it was actually I think I think it was very useful for a couple reasons. I think that it helped people be heard. Um I think that it helped to reframe the sort of the the push to to um have the tribe involved in the orchard and
understand where they were coming from because um one of the one of their representatives spoke at one of the meetings. Um I thought it was a positive a positive process overall. I'm just not sure that there's a lot of actionable stuff in it right now for us to do. Yeah, I think um over the next you you
had mentioned that with great tenant in there, but you know, I think we had a great tenant in there for the first fair of 20 years. >> So, I think that's future board now 20 years from now. You know, I don't know how young the gentleman is that owns it now or that leasing it now, but
>> you know, eventually the select board will have to make tough decisions if you know if it starts to get disappear. I think we've we've created enough um documentation and policy moving forward that I think it'll help future select boards be able to make decisions appropriately. >> And I think it also like we still have
to figure out what to do with the house and >> the lower barn and things like that and we should have start serious conversations more on that in November December time frame >> and that can help guide us. Um, also, um, not directly related to the report,
but there is an open house for the orchard coming up on October 18th >> at 2 PM >> through daylight hours, I think. So, >> yeah. >> So, >> we'll be I'll be publicizing that as much as possible. >> Yeah. >> Because it's what he's doing there is really cool.
>> Yeah. If it's any anywhere close to as fascinating as your last podcast again, I >> No, he he's amazing. I >> I learned more, like I said, in that 20 minutes. Very impressive. Very very impressive. >> I've learned in my lifetime when it comes to orchards. >> So much so,
>> we bought six fruit trees and we had them planted in our I now I have an orchard. Good. >> I looked it up on chatt. >> Anything over five trees is an orchard. >> I'm an orchardist. Just in case you guys need a professional anyway.
>> So, so segueing right into the next item, which is the the plan. So, I toured the orchard with Emily Schrader and John and Karen was there and um he's just a he's such a magnificent geek about trees. Like he was showing us his favorite trees on the property and there
are a lot of weird ones like there's a sassifrass tree. And did you know that sassifrass trees were native to to Massachusetts? >> Yes. >> I didn't. And also paw paws. He's going to grow pawpaw trees which are native to Massachusetts. So heard that. I'm just
saying there's a lot of stuff there that >> he's just he's great. Yeah. >> He had all these plans for growing trees over rocks and then taking the rocks out so it looks like they're standing on stilts and it's you know amazing. >> Yeah. >> Anyway. >> Yeah.
>> But we can move on to the next item which is the um maintenance plan. >> Okay. >> The the MACP MAPC plan is published on the website now for everyone. >> Yes, it is >> under the orchard group >> orchard page. Yeah. which is just now a repository of documents. Um so Emily
Shrader um is you uh uh Littleton Conservation Trust gave me got me her name. She does monitoring of their conservation restrictions, some of their conservation restrictions and um so she is uh she has a lot of familiarity with
the process. um she has she has not done agricultural preservation restrictions but she doesn't she feels comfortable looking over it. Um I will I will also add that this would be in addition to the state's annual monitoring of the APR which we get which is I think more of a
proforma thing. But the idea was for Emily to um engage with the the town. I think we should do it on the anniversary of the lease being signed and the plan would be for her to generate a report
like talk about any issues she sees. Talk with John about what he's doing and then we would have a public meeting whether it's a part of a select board meeting or a private thing with John and any of the select board who want to attend and Emily to discuss the state of the orchard for anyone who wants to
attend. John can talk about what he's going to be doing the next year and at that time anybody who has concerns or says you know it would be great if we could do this in the next phase we can write that into the plan for the next year and Emily can look at that in one
year to follow up on it. Um so the the quote she gave us for this year is $2,000. She said this this year would be probably more than usual because she has to do an initial plotting out of all the boundaries um which is time consuming
and that she thought you know 1500 was a reasonable thing like year-over-year. So I you know we this was one of the things we said we would do. I really feel strongly that we should like hire someone who's a professional >> and um I think this would put us in a
place where we're actually monitoring the orchard for real >> every year >> cost. >> So I was lucky to meet Emily and she was fantastic. Um, she really >> this year, >> $2,000 probably,500 next year. Yeah. >> Uh, very knowledgeable. Um,
>> and yeah, I think I think we would be in good hands. >> And I think I think the idea was to use the rent that John is paying to offset the cost of the monitoring. >> Yeah. Great.
>> Okay. Um, you know, I'd love to tie that in. We had talked about some of you know an annual I'm not I don't know if we said visit but some maybe tie that with an annual visit from the select board of November that are available that we kind of can walk through some of the this and and visualize it and see.
>> I think that's a good idea. I think we should do all that in like a week >> like have go have us visit and then have the meeting >> with uh John and bring >> and anyone who wants to attend. >> So we'll have like orchard week. >> Orchard week like infrastructure week. >> Yeah, exactly.
>> Okay. Yeah, sounds great. >> Um, I I agree with all of this. I think we should also add Eric in >> so that we can monitor the buildings, too. >> Yeah, >> because she's not going to be checking up on the health of the building. >> You're exactly right. And I it
specifically excluded the buildings from it because she that's not her domain. >> Yeah. >> Great point. >> I guess that you are you comfortable with that number? I mean, is that something? >> Very much so. Okay. Yes. >> Yes. >> Um if uh move that the select board vote
to approve the orchard monitoring project in the amount of $2,000 uh for this fiscal year. >> Second. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? >> I. >> Woohoo. >> Town administrator update is
accomplished. Minutes. >> Uh there were a couple typos. >> Yeah, I noticed that too. Um, at some point, Attorney Tom Harrington, oh, here it is at the bottom of page 150 in the packet.
It says, "Attorney Tom Harrington, town cous." It should be town council. Um, and the other one was talking about the docks and the state rights to the
land. It says, um, if a dock is built above the low water mark, it is actually on state land. I don't think that's correct. I think if a dock is built below the high water mark, it is on state land. >> Interesting.
>> Because the land underneath the water is state land. So, it shouldn't be above the low water mark. It should be below the high water mark. >> That could be important. I know it doesn't sound important, but that could be important. >> Climate change. Am I I mean,
>> you buy a few trees and then you >> I actually looked up the state statute. >> Okay. >> And it does. >> Okay. I was going to say we should strike it. We're not sure >> or or we should or I mean perhaps someone can just go back and listen to that sentence. I don't know whether the
person misspoke or it got mistranscribed. It could be that they meant to say below above the low water water markets townland. So I I didn't go back and look at the recording. >> Okay. >> Uh I don't know how to whether we should
strike it or or or try to correct it. >> Do you want to continue it? >> Continue the minutes. >> I guess I could go watch the video. >> I don't think it's fundamental to the minutes though. >> No, it's not. >> So I would vote we strike it. >> Okay. Why don't we just strike that
sentence? Okay. I move that the select board, let's see, vote to approve the meeting minutes from September 8th, 2025 with after
striking. >> As amended. >> As amended. >> As amended. Thank you. >> I'll second that. >> Moved by Gary, seconded by Matthew. All those in favor? I. >> That's it. Littleton. >> Motion to adjurnn. Second.
>> All those in favor? >> I >> I