I'd like to go ahead and open the July 22nd, 2025 uh Littleton Conservation Commission meeting via Zoom. Um, and we do have quorum. Thank you for joining us everyone. What I'd like to do is go ahead and start with the approval of
minutes which are dated July 8th, 2025. Um there were many pages of them. Does anyone have any um omissions or corrections? I just have one, but anybody have anything they'd like to put in?
>> I just have one little tiny thing on the 550 uh King Street and can you guys hear me by the way? I don't know if this is working. Oh, perfect. Um, so at the very end of that discussion for the 550 King Street ENRAD, um, it says that we set a site visit and I think it was June 14th,
but it was the July 9th meeting. >> Yep. Well spotted. Thank you for that. Um, and then the only one that I had was back on the first page, enforcement order 04 pond. And I would defer to you on this, Tim. I thought that you had
mentioned that when you went to the site originally that the 100 foot wasn't clearly denoted and that there were some possible trees down but was unsure where they had come from. >> Y is that >> okay >> that's accurate. >> Okay. So if we could just change the
narrative on the third line to that where it said he noticed excavation had occurred many roots had been damaged and then add a sentence that you feel comfortable with that. Um, are there any other um omissions or corrections?
If not, can I please have a motion to approve? Okay, Michael and Kyle are both joining us. Michael, >> everybody, sorry I'm late. >> Yep. Okay, great. So, we are just waiting on a motion to accept the
minutes um from July 8th, 2025 as amended. I'll make a motion that the commission approve the meeting minutes as amended. >> Okay, thank you. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Okay, >> great. Uh Andrew, would you like to do
roll call, please? >> Certainly. Uh roll call vote. Uh Carl >> Kyle Malber. >> Kyle. >> Michael. >> Michael I. >> Ed >> I was not here so I'll stay.
>> And Sarah. Sarah Seawward. I >> myself I So that is 1 2 3 4 five I's and one extension. >> Okay, great. What I'd like to do is I recognize there's quite a few administrative discussions. Some of them will be longer than others, but I'd like
to just go ahead and start in the order of which they're presented. Uh top of the list is request for a certificate of compliance 16 Middle Sex Drive, D number 204-931. Tim, can you speak to that? >> Yep. So, for this one, we were just
waiting on the area that was seated um for it to uh get to the end of its monitoring period. Uh it was probably ready to go at this point last year. Um but we went out there again this year and it it looks just about near 100%
filled in. Um and the site is stable. The ro controls have been removed. So, it in my opinion is ready for uh CFC. >> Okay, great. Do we have a motion to issue that? >> I'll make a motion that the commission
issue a certificate of compliance for 16 Middle Sex Drive, D file number 204-931. >> Second. >> Thank you, Ed. Right. Roll call vote. Uh Carl, >> I'm Kyle. >> Max.
>> Michael. >> Michael Livingston. I >> Ed I >> Sarah >> Sarah Seawward I >> myself I it's unanimous. >> Okay, great. Next on the list is discussion on the enforcement order on
30 Warren. I see Casey, we've just promoted you if you're here. >> I'm here. >> If you want to just introduce yourself and um bring us up to date and Tim, I think you have some photos to share. >> Yep, I'll share them. >> Great. Go ahead, Casey.
>> Yep. uh Warm Street. Last time I we did anything to the property was uh September 2024. Um Littleton Earthworks came out and did the job as prescribed by Scott Hayes,
Chuck Karen, and as approved by uh this committee here to plant um 24 shrubs including uh winterberry, blueberry, and arrowwood. to plant native flowers
to drop in um two to three inches of lom. Um and they did all that work uh in September, October actually. And um I just been waiting for it to fill in and
I had to water it. That was very dry last fall. So, I kept it watered and um it's been looking like this all year, tell you the truth. It's very lush. >> That's great. And Tim, you've had a chance to go out.
>> I have not had Excuse me. I have not had a chance uh to go out there. >> Vegetation looks great, Casey. >> Good. Commissioners, what are your thoughts on this? I think you've had a good team working with you.
I think Casey's worked pretty hard to make this what we were looking for. >> Yep. >> Tim, what would you look for for a uh vote to resend the enforcement order? >> Uh yeah, a vote to to lift the
enforcement order. Um >> Okay. Commissioners, >> I to the enforcement order on 30 Warren. >> Okay. Do we have a second? Second. >> Second. >> Okay. All right. Roll call vote. Ed.
>> Ed. >> Full side. >> Carl Mel. I >> Michael. >> Michael said I. >> Kyle >> Maxfield. >> Sarah. >> Sarah Seward. I >> myself. I. It's unanimous. >> Okay. Great. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Casey. >> Thank you all for your time and guidance. >> Okay. >> Appreciate the work. >> Yep. Next is enforcement order ratification and discussion for three Sarah Indian Way. Tim, who's here to speak for that? >> Uh, we don't have anybody here to speak
to this tonight. I was able to just get in contact with the property owner about this today. Um, we certified mailed the enforcement order last week and I checked the tracking number and it said it was delivered to a PO box. The
property owner saw my email this morning came in and I was talking to him and he doesn't have a PO box. We for whatever reason the address that we mailed it to it didn't get delivered there. Um he had a prior commitment tonight. He couldn't make the meeting but he said he will be
attending uh the August 5th meeting to talk to this. >> Um can you let us know discussion? Did a discussion occur that he's aware to not do any additional work on the site? >> It did. Yes. Um, and if you want, I can
I can pull up the enforcement order and uh show some of the pictures from that. >> Yeah. And can you talk through to I know there was some confusion when we were on site on which project this was. Um, if it was one that we had discussed and we saw one that either had been performed
without us knowing or, you know, there was a little bit of confusion on the properties out there. >> Yeah. Um, let's see. Let me share my screen real quick. All right. And and so what Kyle's talking about is this property had a
determination issued last year >> and for some reason the plan's not showing up. But this structure right here is a a porch or gazebo. Um and it was permitted under a determination to be rebuilt in the existing footprint. Um
it was noticed that there had been extra work done on site. This clearing you see back here um starting up here going all the way down to essentially the uh the bank of the pond. And that is what the
enforcement order is for. in addition to these sauna tubes that were not permitted to be in. And that goes back to the plan um that was reviewed during the hearing process for
the determination. The plan showed on it the gazebo right here that was going to be rebuilt. It showed stairs that were removed. and I can't speak to it cuz I wasn't on site during
the initial site visit when this came in front of the commission last year, but I don't believe those stairs were there at the time. The plan also showed stairs that were not existing. Um, and I confirmed this today when talking with the property owner that he was under the
impression that those were permitted during the or in the determination. But what's that got to do with half a dozen son tubes? >> So the sonot tubes were actually shown those locations were shown on the the plan that was submitted to the
commission last year as were the location of additional stairs going down to the existing dock. >> But that I do not recall >> that that was not in the narrative to my understanding. Correct. wasn't in the
narrative and Lauren went back and she watched both of the meetings where this was discussed in front of us and it was not mentioned at all >> and I did the sitewalk here and all he was talking about was replacing the bad structure with a good structure.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. So I think what I'd like to do because this will have future discussions is we do need to ratify the enforcement order and for clarity the enforcement order will be for um as Tim
had mentioned um access disturbance here and then it appeared that some other um u trees or shrubs have been taken down as well. Um, so where the applicant is not here, we
can have future discussion at the next meeting. They've been made aware that they're not to do further work, but would like to go ahead and ratify the uh enforcement order if that's what the commissioners would
like to do. >> Yep. >> So, we're looking correct. Well, I move that we ratify the enforcement order of three Sarah Indian way. >> Yep. Who seconded?
>> Okay. Thank you, Michael. All right. Roll call vote. Ed. >> Edi. >> Sarah. >> Sarah Seawward. I >> Michael. >> Michael Livingston. I >> Kyle >> Kyle Max. >> Carl. >> Carl Melber. I
>> myself I it's unanimous. >> Okay. Thank you. Um let's go ahead. We've got a few minutes before our next public hearing and I see that Steve has joined us. Let's go ahead and have a discussion on the enforcement order 04 pond D204-0988.
Steve, are you here? You're muted, Steve. There we go. >> Yeah. So, Steve, if you could um introduce yourself and then just give some of the the backstory of this. There are two commissioners that um were not
part of the the last hearing that we had. >> Sure. Um Steve Marsh, I'm working for David Harrington. I am the contractor that was hired to put in his dock and um through his um order of conditions
install a path and a boat house within 100 ft of the pond. Um what I tried to do was um I went ahead and I started work. I did do the dock. The dock is installed. Uh, and part of the process
that I utilized, um, uh, to put in the path was to pull out the stones and prep an area for a small, um, deck, so to speak. Um, it really wasn't depicted what it was
supposed to be made of, but I anticipated um, going to be made out of wood. That's what we um, quoted, but there was nothing in the order for that. Uh, I went through and I dug out some boulders and
during that process I did take out some roots uh for some trees. I did not take down any trees, not even in the 100 foot uh that was alluded to earlier. Um, I I was trying to meander around the trees and save the trees which we managed to
do. I since hired an arborist who came out and reviewed and checked the status of the of the trees and said that if we backfilled it with the parent material that was there um that we have a really good likelihood of the trees surviving
which we anticipated um and let's see as far as if any of the trees dies if any of the trees die um I'm happy to replace them to the same caliber that's there but we and then I want to move the boat
house out of the um of the 100 foot. So that's our that's our intent. But I you know I I just want to say for the record I still feel as though regardless of the enforcement order that I'm in compliance and I would not cut any trees. I went through a whole um effort the serious
effort to not cut down any trees within the 100 foot. That's why we meandered that around. I also have submitted since um at the request of one or two of the commission members um a restorative plan through my wetland specialist. So I've
hired the best people that we could um people that are certified, an arborist and a wetland specialist to um take care of anything that um was damaged. And and at this point, we're ready to go with the exception of me waiting for my
surveyor to lay out beyond the 100 foot the um um the boat house. >> Okay. Um Tim, are you able to share some of the photos for the commissioners that haven't been out on site? Um, and then
if there's a commission member that would like to just do an overview of what was in the original order of conditions that was supposed to be uh no mechanical uh excavation and just show kind of the the roots. So, Steve, just so others can
see what's happened. >> Sure. >> Um, it's going to take me a second to pull that up, but while I'm pull >> Yeah. Um, while I pull that up, uh, I wanted to note that since last meeting, we had
met, um, Steve out at the site. He installed the additional erosion controls that we asked him to. Um, and then he was authorized to trim the uh, or prune the roots at the recommendation of the arborist and backfilled the the
pair of material. Steve, I'm sorry if you already mentioned that and I'm reiterating that. Um, but from what I saw when I was out there, it and Steve confirmed this, it doesn't look like you have to bring in additional fill. Um,
>> no, I don't think that we will have to. I have my material on site um for the the wood chips. They're they're all set. And then I won't be working down within the 100 foot, you know, I'm going to be working beyond that. And the 100 foot um area is marked. Um,
>> and then I also think that Steve, you might want to mention that you had staked the the path that's supposed to be 5 ft wide and I believe you were going to go ahead and have that surveyed as well into the plan. >> I'm going to have So I I'm within the
confines of the 35 foot wide access path and again it was it was staked out originally. We lost the stakes. So, I I believe that I'm within um within the original staking for the um
pre-construction. But what I would here's what I would suggest. I would like to um I'm having it surveyed anyway for the 100 foot um for the uh boat house, which will be outside the 100 foot. I'll have them do
an I'll have them do an asbuilt once I get the peers put in for the um for the um boat house so I don't have to do it twice. So I'd like to just continue. >> I think the commissioners will have to take mention of that. So, what you've
been asked to do is to go ahead and survey the 100 ft and survey the path. And then once that's approved, then you can talk about the location of that of your dock that I mean not dock of the
bench that's supposed to go in there in conjunction of where the path is because of the erosion of of that path going up. Um, Commissioner, let's let's just have the other commissioners um because there
were others that were out um Michael or um Kyle. >> Sure. Um so I guess first of all you say you're in compliance. I think that's where we're having a disagreement, right? I understand you didn't remove any trees and you were permitted to remove a
couple trees. Um, but there was no me no was supposed to be no use of mechanical equipment. We were told the vegetation was just going to be trimmed to the to the ground and then wood chips placed over that. So looking at this picture, you know, we
were either misled or there was a very very large miscommunication on what the actual work was going to be. So those are my two primary concerns on being out of compliance. Um, I think it's great that you were able to change the the route of the path and save trees and I hope you're right that some of these
trees or most all of these trees will will survive. Um, and I Sarah, what you said I I think is exactly on point as far as things moving around including the the sitting area and the boat house. I was going to bring up I assume that we need to amend the order to to include
those changes. >> Correct. So I >> and that's and that's why the path would have to be specifically noted on the new plan. >> Yeah. >> Because this this was supposed to originally just be like like was mentioned wood chips on no digging, just
wood chips on on top with a bench down near the water and somewhere up above a spot to put their boats. that was fairly unobtrusive or or wasn't going to really have a huge impact on on
the space. This looks like it really got chewed up. Well, I I disagree. I think that if you read the order of conditions, it specifically says that I have a spot there for if you read through the order conditions, which I think was poorly
written. Um, you'll see that it's it leaves me space for u it it says something about where I can put my equipment. I think there was some confusion. I This isn't my first time working with a conservation commission doing an order of conditions. So, typically when I see language in there
that says no motorized vehicles and I walk, you know, I walk the new town road property all the time. There's a big sign that says no motorized vehicles. I think that's typically um and again I wasn't at the meeting but typically it's for people after the fact after we're done. so that people aren't riding
their, you know, four-wheelers and that kind of thing down there. That that's the way I interpret it. But like I said, um, if you read the order of conditions, it >> Tim, can you go ahead and pull up the order of conditions? >> If you read it, you're it's like I said,
it looks it looks pretty favorable to me because it talks about where I have equipment and where I can park it and where I can park it overnight. So I think this was like I said I was trying to be as minimally as invas I mean not trying to do too much damage there.
There was obviously going to be temporary damage temporary disturbance I should say. Um but it's but now it's back you know it's back to normal. Hey Steve, did Steve Steve did the land owner did you have any discussions with
the land owner >> uh before you made this path like >> I mean he he the land owner must have been aware of what we were looking for with a path. >> Yeah. >> The path is actually laid out right
where right I I cut it in. I just moved it around the trees a bit. Hey Tim, >> but if you look at the plan the plan >> see hold on we're gonna go ahead in the essence of time is okay on the screen people can see you might have to blow it
up a little bit in terms of what the findings were in this order of conditions. >> Yeah. Number two is the wood chip path. >> There was only three trees apparently going to be pulled out. >> None were. >> And the boat house location was moved
farther from Fort Pond. Read number four says to avoid soil disturbance. >> Yeah, >> there a significant soil disturbance. >> Yeah, so commissioners um there there
may be some discrepancy in terms of what Mr. Marsh thinks and what the commission thinks and >> I think in the grand scheme of things just tell me what you want and I'll do it. That's that's the bottom line. I mean, >> so commissioners, what would you like to do to um allow this to continue to move
forward? So, there's erosion controls that are there. We've um the roots have been cut back and the uh pathway has been filled back in with soil. What would you
like to do for the next step? I believe um a discussion was that it needs to get uh engineered in terms of where the 100 foot is and the path. >> So Sarah, if I can interrupt y >> um
>> Steve sent this over earlier today. Um I didn't get a chance to to send it to forward it over to you guys. Um Steve, do you want to run us through what you've proposed in the restoration plan? Yeah. So th this is um from uh guarded consulting from Mark Arnold, the wetland
specialist. And basically he's saying that um you know I have to replant with native um plants and then bring in some of the um original duff from the area and just cover up those plants.
the trenches that that are there that were showing the uh the the dug into the bank that you said that's already been filled back in. >> Every everything's been corrected. I can't do anything until Yeah. Everything looks like >> minus the boulders. That's that's the only thing that's different.
>> Oh, I get it. It's it's it's difficult to tell from this. That's why I was >> Kyle, did you say something? >> No. So, this is Yeah, this is what we were looking for after we left the site. He's filled back the filled back filled the path back in. We were looking for him to meet with some sort of wetland
specialist to provide some guidance on how to reveate outside of the five foot path. >> Right. And I think >> one question we had was at the end of this um path to come up with what the
elevation should be that it's not brought all the way back up to grade. There's a large rock that was there so that the water doesn't carry on a cascade. So, I'd like to see some type of elevation of where this
path is going to stop and actually in relationship to where the sitting area is going to be. So, when they lay out this and also do the um you know surveying to kind of look at
that the entry entryway. Sarah, on the original plan, I was allowed to go down much further closer to the um to the bank, right? And that's possible, Steve. But the you
have you have soil that has now been totally destroyed. >> And so we have to keep it to make sure it can vegetate and properly take so that doesn't carry on path so that you're scooping everything out of the lake by hand.
>> Correct. But I agree with you. I mean there there's a you know I mean this this thing is depressed below the original grade. So I think that if I keep the wood chips below that um which I can easily do. But don't forget down at the very end it's almost like a dam. And again I could have gone beyond that
according to what was approved. We kept it back. I think we kept it back like you know close to 10 ft. >> Commissioners. What would you like to do? >> Yeah. So great real quick. There's two things there. One, you didn't have approval to excavate material down to the bank. You had approval to cut
vegetation down to the bank to put in wood chips. Second, which is that's a non-starter, but number two, all Sarah's looking for is for you to shoot that elevation where you have where that depression is that you're talking about, Steve, where that little step was. She just wants to see what that elevation is versus the elevation of the path, right?
to confirm that we're leaving some sort of sort of check dam to to keep flow from carrying sediment down into the pond while this is all being remeditated. >> Agreed. I'll do that. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Was the original plan said you were going to there was going to be some kind
of ramp up to the bank. Did Did you cut any of the bank out or is it just you put the dock and then had the had a ramp go up to the to the bank? >> Yeah. No, we didn't do I just basically put the dock in and rested it on the existing um bank and it works perfectly.
>> We meet we meet again on August 5th. Do you think you could have that engineered done and come back to us for August? >> He is due out this week. So that's that's what he told me, but engineers are hard to um and surveyors are tough, but I'm I'm scheduled to do it and as soon as I get it, I'll forward it to
your office. >> Okay. Thank you. We've got to keep going. >> Okay, great. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Okay, we're going to go ahead. It's almost 8:00. We're going to go ahead and open the 7:45 public hearing, notice of intent, 18 Pleasant Street, installation of a septic system. Who's here to speak
with that? I'm promoting them over right now. We have Montgomery here. Yes, I'm here. I'm here. Let me share my screen. >> Montgomery, if you could introduce
yourself, that would be great. >> Yes, my name is Montgomery WMSKY and McNary at 1000 Main Street in Actton. I'm going to be representing the applicant today. Let me share my screen,
but you know, I shared the wrong screen. Uh can you see my can you see the plan? >> Yep. >> Okay. So this is 18 Pleasant Street in Littleton. Uh so we have an existing
house here a deck. Uh we have this walkway in the front of the house. We have an existing driveway. Uh this is the edge of the distant driveway and we have a shed in the back. Um so we
do have wetlands in the back here which is in the blue blue highlighted in blue here and we it it does the 100 foot offset which is this line over here. So this is the 100 foot buffer zone and and
this is the 50 foot uh buffer zone. And so the existing shed is within that 50 foot buffer zone and the existing septic tank is within that 50ft buffer zone. Um the house is basically most of the
impervious area is actually within the 100 foot buffer zone except this section of the driveway existing driver that's outside. Um so basically the proposed conditions uh we're proposing to remove the
existing um uh proposing to to install new septic tank and new pump chamber and the new leech field within the 100t buffer zone. Um so this uh the septic tank the pump chamber and the leech
field will be outside the 50ft buffer zone. the north the yeah the 50 foot buffer zone and the existing septic tank which is currently within the 50 foot buffer zone will be removed
um as you can see on the plan. Um, so we do have this silt barrier, siltation barrier to protect um the wetlands uh during construction and we're going to have to do some work within the 50t
reference zone because um of this septic tank which has to be removed. Though we did request for a waiver to do that work because um later 10 the regs and it does work within a 50 foot zone is not
allowed uh except being except removing invasive species. So removing the septic tank uh is part of our scope of work. Um so right now I'll take any questions from the commission. the existing tank. It
um I What if you just filled it in? Would that decrease the impact on as opposed to pulling it up and making all the the just all the things that happen as a result of that?
>> Yes. Yeah, that that's an option. That's an option. We can we can consider uh just leaving it in place, but but we we would have to um we would have to rupture the bottom and remove any any
any waste and then fill it with sand. So we can leave it in place, but we have to rupture the bottom and pump it dry and then fill it with sand. That's according to title five. >> Sure. But that would be less intrusive
than bring bringing a backhoe and everything else. >> Yeah. Then removing it. Yeah, we can do that. >> Are you leaving the shed or you taking the shed out? >> Uh the shed will be staying. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> The aerial of this area shows some
pretty significant tree cover behind the house. What what's existing there for vegetation? vegetation. Um, I'm assuming it's just like maybe shrubs in the back, but I can I can confirm
that. I'm not aware at the moment. >> Montgomery, have you been out on site? >> Not yet. No. >> Okay. So, as Kyle mentioned, in terms of trees, we would ask that they be
>> noted on the plan which are staying and which are going. And Ed certainly had a good point in regards to um just uh breaching and filling that tank, which is really more protocol for the commission. Commissioners have other
questions. Was the septic tank in >> was it in failure, Montgomery? >> Yeah, the the system was in failure. So, we had to put in a new system. >> You can see >> what you're looking at for equipment to
put in. I mean, this kind of project, I'm assuming, is going to need some heavy duty uh work. >> Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's going to need some grading. As you can see, the the grading is changing uh on site um quite a lot uh
because we needed to get enough cover over the leech field cuz a portion of it is going to be underneath the driveway. Uh so we're going to have to uh put it place it under the driveway. So you need an extra extra cover for that. So that's
why there's like um significant change in grading for for the system here. And also to remember to note where you're going to stockpile any material kind of coming or going that you just
have to make sure it's out of the 100 foot buffer as well. >> Okay, that's where I was going next. Commissioners, would you like to set up a sidewalk that way you can look at vegetation or
would you like Montgomery to bring back um what the trees are going to be removed and that way they can be flagged so that you could see them? >> Yeah, either one of those is this seems pretty straightforward to me other than what's there for for vegetation. That's
my only concern. I think adding a couple things like you said denoting where the stock piles will take will be kept. >> Okay. >> I think this is pretty straightforward. >> Okay. So, doesn't sound like we need to do a site visit, but Montgomery, if
you've heard the comments presented to you to bring forth an amended plan. >> Okay. >> Revised plan. >> Yep. And then Tim, if you have a chance to scoot out and um take a peek once the flags are
um noted which ones are going to be removed. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I guess while you're out there, would you be checking flagging? I'm not sure that I know the river's right there too or whatever is the Milanza back there. Um
>> I can check the wetland flags while I'm out there as well. >> What? Montgomery, when was it flagged? How recent? >> Uh May May. It was flagged May this year. >> Okay, great. >> So that's another step that the wetlands
flags will have to be verified. And then if you're planning on doing based on what you're removing for vegetation, what you're planning on putting back in, if you could make note of that as well. >> Okay. >> Okay. Is there anything else that we would like to have for the next meeting?
Um, we do meet on August 5th. Do you think you could have that for the next meeting? >> Yep. >> Okay. With your permission, we will go ahead and extend you to August 5th. >> Yes. >> And real quick, Sarah, has this gone through board of health? Because it looks like we don't have a DP number
yet. Am I right assuming not? >> So, we actually do have a D file number. It came in after the agenda was posted. >> Okay. And >> the board of health hearing is tomorrow. >> Okay. Okay. Well, you'll let us know if
anything changes on your plan for sure. >> All right. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> Good evening. >> Bye. >> Okay. We're going to go ahead and jump back to um administrative discussions and that will be um enforcement order
discussion 33 Star Hill Road. Is anyone here to talk to that? Uh it looks like Mark was here but it looks like he has left. Um I told him today we met out at the site myself,
Amy, um they're well scientists Dave Crossman and Lauren uh and Chuck Karen and we looked the soils in that questionable drainage area and they were not hydric. Um, so the plan that they
showed you at the prior meeting, um, was accurate. >> Um, they're going to be putting together a restoration plan now that they know where the wetland line is is confirmed. Um, they're going to be putting together the restoration plan for the next meeting.
>> Okay. And so, and they know we're meeting on August 5th. >> They do. Yep. >> Okay. Great. Okay. So, let's go ahead and jump back. Let's take our 8:00 p.m. public hearing. Notice of intent 31 Madawanaki Trail. Uh repairs to patio
and stairs. >> Who's here? >> I don't see Rob. Sorry, not Rob. Um Chuck here guessing. >> Okay. So what what we can do is let's um
keep this open for a few more minutes. Let's jump back to administrative discussion. >> Oh, is this Chuck? >> Yeah. >> Yes. Paul is iPad. >> Gotcha. I'll promote you over here, Chuck. Give me a second. >> Yeah. And then Chuck, when you're
promoted over, if you could uh introduce yourself, that would be great. >> Join the panels. Okay, you're muted, Chuck and Paula. >> Then Tim, in the meantime, if you have a plan that you want to go ahead and show as well.
Um, hello. I'm Chuck Bush and I'm at 31 Madawanaki Trail and I wanted to uh actually take brick up, put brick back down because they're deteriorating and they're a hazard uh for people to walk on and um
you know, it's just a simple um maintenance type of uh cleaning up. >> Okay. Um, Chuck, do you have photos or Oh, I see Tim's putting a plan up. Do you have photos that you're gonna share with us as well? >> Can we do this? Can I walk right out 10
feet and show you it? >> Let's Let's go ahead and talk about the plan first. >> Okay. >> Just in case just in case we lose you as you're walking around with the iPad. >> Okay. So, if you look at the darker outlines, okay, uh those are the tops of
the walls, and they're out up about, I don't know, a couple inches from the ground. And what happens is they're starting to deteriorate because of the top of the wall and cracking and falling apart, crumbling. All we're going to do is lift those off and put granite tops
on. Um these stairs are breaking also over the winters. Now, the this the cement has cracked and um in the cracks the water has got in and it's delaminated and it pops. Um what happens is I'm trying to glue them together.
It's not working that great. Um I I really want to replace them with real granite steps instead of the cement blocks that were done in 2002. Um, also on one of the sides, the bigger side of the patio, it seemed like it
sunk right in that area. If it's a big sink hole there, and people sit down and they they're going off weirdly. I'd like to take that whole most of that side up and lift it up, put more dirt in, and put the pavers back on.
That's it. In in regards, Chuck, to the last um sinkhole area, is water coming in from somewhere like through a hole or just >> No, I think it was filled and it just in the fill there's nothing weeping on the whole wall or nothing. The wall is
fantastic. Um nothing's wrong with that. It's just must be the way we compacted it or what we did back then. Um, it shled, >> you know, it settled. >> What? Um, how far how far are you to the
waters? To the high water or low water or any of that? >> Well, if you look at the water right there, see it? There it is. >> So, it goes all the way up to the steps right here. Right, Chuck? >> Yeah. >> Well, there's a little bit of a beach. >> There's a little bit of a beach, but not much. >> Yeah, right there. Is >> that this line?
>> Yeah. So, this this plan is from the 2002 filing. >> Was the dock? Uh, >> yes, it's permitted. Okay. >> I was one of the first people in the town to get it permitted. >> Excellent. >> On this lake. >> Might have been the first.
>> Much appreciated. >> So, if I understand correctly, you're basically looking to repair two staircases and uh the top of the walls, putting granite a c granite cap rather, and fixing a sinkhole. Yep.
Okay. Yeah. >> And have you um submitted a waiver? >> What do you mean a waiver? >> Work within the first 50 ft needs a waiver. >> I did whatever uh my man Tim told me to do.
>> I I'm pretty positive he submitted a waiver. If it um was it not included in the um the packet that I sent over, Sarah? I um >> he gave me a bunch of stuff and I did them.
>> There's a notice of intent included in the packet. >> Okay. It would if it if if it was in there, it would be towards the end. >> So, I'm scrolling down now. >> Okay. >> Uh wetland transmitt form. Pretty sure that I saw
>> and protection rigs. uh board of assessors. I don't see one that says >> there's a waiver in there. It's um like I don't have a page number, but it's there's a waiver request of information. Yep. >> Okay. Let's talk a little bit about
erosion control. >> Um >> if you need us to if you need us to do a little erosion control, um we can put if you look at the stairs going down to the lake, we can go from one rock to the other rocks on the side here. And that's all we're going to need because
everything else is is going to be behind walls. >> And how do you because we don't have pictures, Chuck, how do you get like your caps and your stones and your other material in and out? Is that >> Well, we were going to bring a small excavator to the top of the stairs and
then just um bring it down and then just lower them down. So, are you going to be bringing in once you in your what you're calling the sinkhole area, you're going to take the pavers up and then are you going to bring new soil or new something?
>> We have to use new star pack or something or the material that we generally put underneath the um pavers to make it right. >> Okay. I I think that for this notice of intent, you're going to want to submit photographs that actually and have a
sitewalk and actually show where >> can we try >> where the excavator is going to sit because you're doing work in the first like literally first couple feet of the water and the commissioners um can certainly tell me I'm wrong on this um
but you would have to really show on a plan where the erosion control is going to go in because you can't stockpile anything within the 100 feet. >> There would no no be stockpiling. If any stockpile it's a pallet of brick put on
the ground or another pallet put for the brick to put on top and out. >> Yep. >> So there's no stockpiling any dirt. >> Right. So usually there would be a sequence like an order sequence that you're going to do this first then this >> then this then this.
>> Yeah. Can we >> let the let I'd like the other commissioners to chat. >> Kevin's spending now. >> Where is the hund on this anyway? >> Way off the picture. >> Probably up on Manawani Trail.
>> Oh, the house is there's a um what do you call it here in the left hand side with with you? You can see the square there. That's the house. >> You're almost there, Tim. >> The hash. >> You mean the hash thing >> right there? Yeah. >> Okay.
>> That's the edge of the house, right? 100 foot is got to >> There's We got a scale down there. >> Oh, the back of the house is probably only 50 60. >> Yeah. >> The septic's all in the front of the house cuz we had to do that. >> Whole property is 100. Nice. So, what would
>> presumably then you could put your materials in your driveway >> if I needed to, you know. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't have any materials but bricks. That's not going to erode into the lake and fill the lake. So, access for the excavator and then
you'd have to have your erosion controls loop up past that. >> Okay. I mean, like I said, I'd like to, if everybody doesn't mind, we could go outside and and clean this up in like 5 minutes.
>> Still has to be on a plan. >> I understand. But at least you'll see it. It's it's up to the commissioners, not up to me. I'm >> I'm fine with it if we could make that happen. If it does nothing else, if it theoretically uh eliminates the need for
a sidewalk since he'll be sidewalking for us, but >> give it a whirl. >> Thank you. >> So, can you still >> Whoa. >> See? >> Yep. Yep. >> Okay. A little bit of dizziness there
for a second. >> Sorry. >> So, these are the caps right here. Can you see me? >> Wait a minute. Let me get down. >> Get down. >> See, these are the caps right here. >> Yeah. >> Literally, take them up. Look at them. They're broken. Take them up. Put a new
cap on. The caps will look like this. They're granite. They there'll be more of a bigger sleeve. Okay. >> The stairs turn around. >> The stairs are cracking.
>> Can you see them? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> I'm moving on half of these. All these are all cracked. And if the old lady falls, you know, they're all Oh, there's one. >> So, you're taking those completely out, Chuck?
>> Yes. I have to take these completely out. And I'm putting all new um >> granite >> granite in. >> So it be one piece. >> So it would be one piece. >> Oh, it's a prefab staircase. >> Yep. >> Yep.
>> Okay. >> Everybody see that? >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Do you want me to turn around and walk towards the lake now? >> No. I want you. Okay. The what do you call it? >> Oh. Oh. I don't know if you can see this light.
>> Here's the sinkhole. >> Okay. >> I think we >> This whole area here. >> Yeah. Tim Tim saw it when he came out here last fall. >> This whole area shunk a little bit. Now, if you see, there's no way
like they're just outside the 30. >> Yeah, >> I do delineation. >> Was good at last. I I think we have to have control and where the excavator is going to access and do >> you guys want the plan highlighted for
what work on that plan is actually going to be redone. >> Yeah, that's like that doesn't really show a proposed plan, right? It's it was for a different project. >> Yeah, >> we don't have a DP file number yet, but I would imagine that's coming in the
comments. >> It looks like you're muted there. Would you like to see more? >> I think I've seen everything. >> Okay. So, let let's talk about commissioners. What you'd like to see for this project?
I think we're talking about an actual plan showing what's to be done, where the uh storage will be for the material, how you're going to get the prefab steps in. I assume that means you'll have to
have some kind of of equipment. >> Okay. >> Kyle, you're both muted if you have any comments, too. Am I muted? >> No, you Ed Ed, we got yours. I'm just asking others too. >> Oh, okay.
>> Maybe we need to see where erosion controls will be, how they'll be installed. >> Yeah, I'm I'm I'm pretty comfortable other than a plan that shows, you know, on that plan what's happening. I we walk through it, that's fine, but we need
something on record to show what going to happen. >> Yeah. Maybe a sequence of which one's happening first. And >> that sounds good. >> So check might be able to give you like an example. >> Yeah, I'll stop off and see him.
>> Okay. Just tell him ahead of time because he's going to have to pull one out of the out of the records just to be able to show you. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um All right. So we will if you can have that, we'll go ahead and put you on for August 5th. Okay.
>> Okay. >> All right. Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Good night, Paula. Good night, Chuck. >> Yep. >> Good night. >> Good night. >> Okay. So, let's go ahead um and do the It's 8:23. Let's go ahead to the 8:15 public hearing notice tent,
Frog Pond, Zero Lake Drive, and Zero Lakeshore Drive. Parcel ID U12-22- 0 and U12-15- 0. who's here to speak with uh Frog Pond.
>> So Tim, you promoted Jean. >> Yep. Jean Maria and Steve. Okay, great. >> Who would like to take the lead and introduce yourself, please? >> Yep. Thank you. Uh Steven Yanley, director of public works here with the town of Littleton. Um thank you for the
opportunity tonight to present this NOI for some rehab work to the constructed wetland uh more commonly known as the frog pond and the walkway that um kind of connects Beach and uh Lake Drive. Um,
with me tonight, uh, two members from the design team, Ty and Bond, uh, Jean Christie and Maria, uh, Johnsonburgg. Uh, and I will just hand it off to them and they can take the presentation from you. >> Okay. >> And you're welcome to share your screen.
Um, Dean or Maria. >> Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Steve. Um, I will go ahead and I'm going to give you a brief introduction and then I'll share my screen. Um, so as Steve said, we are proposing to
rehabilitate the existing storm water wetland that was constructed back around 2002 2003. Um, essentially it has not been maintained for that time. So, a recent study found that we have anywhere
from 3 to 23 in of accumulated sediment that needs to be removed in order for it to function properly. Um, and what it does, right, or what it's supposed to do is um essentially help filter water before it gets to Long Pond.
So, it's important that we get this rehabilitated. Typically, if this had been done um on a regular schedule, then this would not have had to come to the commission. But because we are out of normal maintenance for this, we're here
with a notice of intent to do this work. Um in addition, there are a couple other things that are going on in this area um that will follow this. One of which is the walkway, which is included on our
plans. Um, and the other is an invasive species management effort that the town has funded. Um, but that is waiting to start until after this and the walkway work happens. Um, because it doesn't make a lot of sense to start working on
that until after we do this work and put things back together. So, that's the just kind of in a nutshell what we're trying to do. This is Can you all see that now? No, I have to actually hit share. There we go.
Um, can you see it now? >> There you go. Yep. >> Perfect. >> Okay, so this is the parcels that we're talking about. This is the sediment for bay with the sediment that we need to remove. And
this is this is the existing walkway. Um this is the path that it follows. And then we have some um essentially stockpiling and staging
areas because this is a lot of area to cover and it's an extremely constrained site. Um the work that we are proposing is taking place within bank bordering vegetated wetland and land underwater as well as the buffer
zone almost entirely the 50ft no disturb zone because if if you look at this plan um I think there's one corner right here out of the buffer zone that's on the property itself that is not in the
50ft zone just because of how small the parcels are relative to where the wetland is. Um, so we're looking at 99 cubic yards of dredging. And the
plan is that we would enter um from this area to the north and we would come down to the existing for bay with a small excavator to remove this equipment. This
is the soil stockpiling area um to take that sediment until we can move it off site. The plan is to install a pump bypass system so that we take water out and essentially just bypass the forbay during the work so that this is done in
the dry. That is our primary aim. The walkway is being designed by other people but it is included in here so that we are not you know separating projects on you. I think that those are are my primary
highlights. If unless you want to add anything, Jean, before we kind of move into what the commission would like to know more about. >> Sure. I can probably just add that my name is Gene Christie. I'm a principal engineer at time bond. Um, you know, this since this basin hadn't
been maintained, um, it did prove that it's working. It, you know, a lot of sediment is collected in the forbay. So, I'm really glad to see that it's working. Um but removing that all that sediment um will continue to improve the longevity of the pro of the the wetland
of the constructed wetland. Um through this process, we're hoping to uh reinvigorate the O andM process for basins such as this. Um you'll see in your packet in the storm water memo that there is some additional on and m um
protocol that we'd like to you know start to get the town to to program into their capital planning um to just continue to have this basin functioning as it's designed. >> That's it. >> Hey Jane, uh was there anything in the
original uh was the original notice of intent when the when this was constructed? Uh was there anything in there that talked about maintenance periodic maintenance of it? >> Yeah, there was a not there was some maintenance um language in that because
it was important that that design that O andM language which was really specific to this kind of basin. We kind of reiterated it um but added to it. So we are using the same language from that original filing in terms of um how we
want to maintain kind of the overall stuff but we did add some additional information to it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I have a question um for Gene or Maria. Can you talk a little bit about the actual staging areas? What is present on
the ground now? cuz it would be highly irregular for this material not to be shipped out directly from excavation. >> Um >> Maria and I probably have to tag team this one because I haven't actually been on the site. So she's been boots on the
ground. I'm I'm you know just the engineer looking at a piece of paper. Um I agree these you know the excavated sediment is going to have to be managed somehow. Um, I think first and foremost though, it's important to try and get some water out
of it. Um, you know, pumping down the for bay before we start excavating is kind of step one. We also need another place to put this so that it does have an opportunity to dry a little bit so it's easier to to move around. Um, less expensive for the town to dispose of
depending on what the disposal needs are. But Maria can help talk about what is actually in those areas today. >> Yeah. So, this area up here is specifically for stockpiling the sediment that's removed um before it can
be taken off site. And looking at uh our next sheet sheet 501, that stockpile area should be a lined um area there. There should be erosion
controls around it and it should have a liner in it to deposit everything until we are able to put it into a truck to move it off site. So that's a temporary stockpile. It's 100% not intended to stay there very
long. >> Can you define temporary because I know that means different things to different people. >> I don't think we have a number in our head. Um maybe that's something we can as a group agree on what is appropriate.
>> Okay. And then you mentioned pumping down um that for bay. Where is that discharge going to go? >> Uh it goes directly into the main part of the frog pond wetland. So going back to this sheet, this area right here is the forbay. There's a pipe that comes
into it and then there's another little weir that it comes out of. So what we're going to do is we're going to take the water directly from the pipe and just bring it into the main part of the wetland so that we are just bypassing this. So it's going to go where it normally goes. It just won't go through
the for bay during this process. >> Do you have thoughts of how long that pumping down would go or might take? >> Going to depend on the weather. I think uh how much water is actually in there. Um of course we'd want to do it and pump as
little as possible. And how much water is in there presently? >> That is a good question. I have not been to the site um in a little while, so I don't know how much is in there, you know, right now. We are hoping that this
work can proceed um this summer um because that's when the water table will be at its lowest and driest conditions. Um, but I mean that that is of course subject to getting the order of conditions and such. So, but that's that's the hope from a scheduling
perspective. >> It would be ideal to do it that way. Um, you had asked about what looks like and I have um some photos in here of the area. Um, so this is back in March without the
leaves. Um, this is the northern edge for bay area. You can see the walkway um nearby it, the existing walkway. This is the larger part of the wetland
where it exits to go under the road into Long Pond. And then we have more pictures of the walkway and the existing conditions for why it want why we need to replace it and just the the general wetland. Um so
there there is vegetation there's a lot of invasive species immediately around all of this work. Hopefully that gives you a better idea of of what it is like there. So that big body of water is what you'd be draining.
>> No. No. The the big body of water is where where we're pumping the water to. there's a a smaller body or I guess it kind of looks big in the picture, but it's it's a body of water
>> um that that we're going to be draining, but because it has a fair amount of sediment in it, um there's not necessarily as much water to come out as it might look like. >> How long do you think this project will
take start to finish? I think the the sediment removal piece is uh it may be a little labor intensive. Um you know if we are removing you know using an excavator pull materials out but then moving them by hand to stockpile areas um depending
on how you do that and outside of the walkway work because we don't know when that will happen. You know I think it's a pretty short project. Um, just I it probably depends on who we have doing the work. And I don't know, Steve, if we had talked
about who was going to do the work, if this was something the town was capable of doing or if others. >> Yeah, more than likely I'm going to uh bid this out and try to lump it in as one uh project to do the the foray work
and then also the walkway work. >> That's my way of saying I have no idea how long it's going to take. Um >> well I would think on I mean I'll give you my opinion. I think that the for bay work is probably you know set up a couple of days you got to dewater you're
looking at a week and a half to two weeks and then the walkway is probably another two weeks you know a week of uh demo and a week of construction. >> I' I'd give us some leeway and say you know probably one to two months for the
whole thing. um hopefully a lot faster than that as as Steve described, but you know, just from from an understanding that things don't always go exactly the way you plan. I' I'd assume one to two months. >> Yeah. Can you I guess I feel probably
can't answer this based on a couple comments you just made, but I'm a little unclear other than there being an excavator how how sediment is being removed, transported, you know, managed in all of this. I get that it's getting dug out of the for bay and put into stockpile area, but it's got to go a
good little ways before it gets to that stockpile. And you got to work from one end to the other, I assume. Um, >> it's not it's only Let me just double check the scale on this. >> Like, are we going to be using Matt?
>> It's only about 20 ft from the four bay area up to the stockpile area. Um, and to be very clear, the stockpile area is over here because we needed to take it out of the existing wetland. Um, which actually
overlaps the walkway so that we weren't stockpiling in the wetland. And so like that that's part of what is making us move it that far. But this is 20 to 40 ft. It's not a very far distance that it has to move. Um, we are
having an excavator come in here to take this sediment out and they should essentially be able to go back and forth between here to get it into the stockpile area and then when we have a truck come, we can empty this into a truck to take out. This is a pretty simple and standard way to manage soil.
>> Is there any concern of additional draining of that sediment while it's stockpiled and managing that water? I'm going to give that to Jean. >> Can you repeat that question? >> Once you remove the sediment, I know we're draining down the for bay, but once you remove that sediment stockpile,
it's a, you know, fine sediment material. Is it going to continue to drain and fill up? Well, we have standing water that you'll have to maintain in that stockpile area. >> I'm hoping not. Well, with with the pumping system going around, um it's also going to if we do have a storm event, divert any water coming in to go
around the for bay so that we're not resuspending solids, having to wait for them to settle out. Um and that way, you know, for that short duration that we are working in the for bay, there will not be water coming in, new water coming in. There's probably overland water coming in, but not from the actual
drainage inlet. >> Yeah. So, by the time it's pumped down and you excavated, it should drain. It should be drained. Okay. >> We're not working with soup and mud to over that storage area. But that's kind of what I've been envisioning. Worst
case scenario, you know, excavator tracking back and forth with buckets of slop to >> to try to maintain, >> right? But Kyle brings up a good point that you're hoping it's not, but what are we going to do if that does happen? So, that has to be outlined. If this
happens, what we're going to do, does the process stop? Does it then just get put right into trucks and hauled off? >> Oh, I would say that's definitely not an option. If there's wet weather, if anything, work stops. I would assume is
the answer. If you can't >> going to say that given that we need to work in the dry to the extent that we can, that if we have a storm event that we have to for the area to drain before we can take more out. your storage area. Are you going to
align that with um plastic or whatever to help decrease any water drainage that might come out of you're not going to get it totally dry. So, >> and that's that's what I'm thinking because in when I've worked on sites like that, it's still weeping,
>> right? >> You're talking in the stockpile area. >> Yeah, correct. It it could be if the commission thinks it's necessary, you can definitely add that in. >> What do you >> Wouldn't that end up promoting it
staying sloped though if there was still water there? I'm just thinking back to when we had dredging done at uh Forge Pond. You know, part of the process of dredging it out was allowing the uh
soils to drain to what extent they could and then removing it because it wasn't going to be sand or, you know, dry by the time it was ready to be uh physically removed. I think you can line the edges of the
stock pile area to make sure that it's not like gushing out if there's excess water. But we would still certainly want it to infiltrate down to dry before going in the truck to the extent that it can. So it wouldn't be completely lined,
but we could line the edges of it to help make sure that it's contained appropriately. Can you with your cursor just outline the 100 foot and then the 50 foot?
>> Sure. So this line here is the 100 foot buffer zone. So it it goes way out here past the property and then this line here is the 50 foot zone. And
>> so pretty much the whole project is right here. So, and just so you know for future reference, we do ask that the plans be colorcoded. So, the um Kim Tim can share with you what our color code is for boundaries
and wetlands. Just it makes it easier to read these plans. Okay. Commissioners, other questions? site visit and then to have the three areas that are going to be stockpiled
areas noted or staked >> they are noted here >> in in the field. >> Ah >> is this a project that would normally have erosion controls of any kind? Mhm.
>> It it does and they are proposed all along the edge of the for bay as well as all along the edge of the walkway and the lay down areas. >> Thank you. >> So that too would be highlighted
colorcoded. >> Okay. Commissioners, what would you like to do? So how soon do you think you could have the areas staked? Uh, we could do that this coming week. I I would have to check. We might be able to get it done later this week, but um
we could definitely get it done for next week. >> Okay, commissioners, we want to set up a tenative site sitewalk for the following week. >> I can do the 30th, which is a Wednesday. >> Could do that as well. Any
anytime works, Michael, what's good for you? >> Um, anytime that would end uh before 11:30 or after 1:30. I have a commitment during the noon hour. >> Okay.
>> 5:00. >> Yeah, I can do the 30th, but it has to be at least five o'clock. >> Yeah, five o'clock is good. >> Yep. So, it sounds like Andrew, Ed, Michael, so we could do 5:00 p.m. on the
30th and then just um is that something you all think you might be able to be able to facilitate? >> Um, yeah, we we can certainly >> give it a whirl on site to show you around. >> Okay, great. So, with your permission,
we meet again on August 5th. We would like to continue you with your permission to August 5th. >> Oh, Sarah, I had one other uh quick question. Uh so I did notice on the the plan here um I'm not seeing the the walkway the proposed um new walkway go
down to the dock um about halfway down. Um unless I'm misreading this here. >> Um the existing walkway is here and what is proposed is just to replace the existing walkway. There's not an extension.
>> Gotcha. is what currently exists. >> The current walkway does have that little outlet out to the T-shaped dock that's about halfway down. Um I know in our funding application we had um looked to include that in the um replacement as well.
>> Is it are you referencing this? >> Uh the area just before it that goes out to it. >> Okay, I will. Is there an existing walkway there? >> There is. Yeah. >> Okay.
>> We can just show to replace in the same location. >> Yeah. We Well, there there are a couple of other updates that they have requested to the plan. So, we will double check that >> and then if we can put that in the narrative as well. So, on the plan and
then in the narrative. Okay. Any other commissioners have any other comments? Okay. So, we would look forward to seeing you on the 30th. If you could just confirm with Tim hopefully like on Monday to make sure that still works and
we will then continue to August 5th. Um, do you So, I just want to double check before we finish up. you had requested that we um add some color coding to these plans specifically for the buffers and erosion controls um and
that we update the walkway to make sure that we're showing that extension. And you want the stockpile areas to be staked before the walk on the 30th at 5:00 p.m. >> Yep. So, I think what's most important
is the staking first because we can get out on site. So, if you have to prioritize, I would go ahead and do the staking first. Um, and they can just they can just be corners. It doesn't it doesn't have to be specific. The commissioners, are you okay with that? Just like corners.
>> Yes, >> that works. >> Okay, great. No, that that's that's understood. I just wanted to make sure that I had the whole list here. So, when >> No, we we appreciate you. >> Yep. >> That's great. Okay, we've got to move along. Thank you for coming in.
>> Yep. Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> It's um 8:48. We're going to go ahead and take the 8:30, which is the continued public hearing notice of intent 76 Hartwell AB DP 204-1021
expansion of a garage and widening of the driveway. >> Oh, and Sarah, before we get started with this, I just wanted to disclose for the record that I'm on the Cemetery Commission and that's next door. Uh before moving forward. Okay, great. Thank you. So, for those watching,
Andrew will recuse himself from um voting. >> So, actually, I'm able to participate. It's just noting it for the record. >> So, you're still able to vote? >> Yep. Okay, perfect. Thank you for clarification. Okay. Who would like to speak to this?
>> Uh yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh my name is Lumote. I'm a project engineer at GPR Coast Press Ringwall. I'm here tonight as a representative for the applicant and as well as um standing in for Bruce as he's uh on vacation for
this week. Um I believe during uh the last meeting when Bruce was here um there was discussion about updating the site plan to show the compost area as well as the little paved area and stone
wall, the gate uh in the backyard of the project site. Um Tim, are you able to pull up the plan that was submitted? >> Yep, I am. Give me one second. >> And then commissioners, Tim also put in your packet dated July 16th um an
outline as well that Bruce had submitted. >> Yes, thank you. An updated um narrative. >> Yes. Um, all righty. So, if you could please just zoom to the the backyard.
>> I'm trying some issues. >> All righty, that works. So, um, we went out there and and demarcated the, um, you know, a couple of the the boulders, the bigger rocks along the stone wall.
There is an existing 36-in oak uh back there uh next to the composting pit and burm. Um all together the the compost um area is approximately 175 square ft. Um
uh that's really it. It's just right next to that paved area and happy to answer any questions. Commissioners, anybody have any questions? You can also note the narrative that was submitted in your packet as well.
>> I'm pretty comfortable with this. That was described pretty well by Bruce the last meeting. >> All righty. Yeah. So is is that all we were just looking for an update to plan. Is that my is that correct calculation?
>> Yeah. Correct. >> So happy to move forward if someone wants to make a motion. >> Sure. I'll make a motion that we close public hearing and issue an order of condition for 76 artill DP number 204-1021. Do we have a second?
>> Second. >> Thank you, Michael. >> Roll call vote. Uh Carl >> I >> Ed >> Sarah >> Sarah Seawward I >> Michael >> Michael Livingston I >> Kyle >> Max
>> myself I it's unanimous. Okay, great. Thank you for coming in this evening. >> Thank you very much. Have a good night everyone. >> Thank you. >> All right, it's 8:52. We're going to go ahead and open the 845 continued public hearing abbreviated notice of resource
area delineation 550 King Street DP 204-1023. So I I just got an email from these folks a little bit before the meeting saying that they uh they're going to be continuing. They didn't really have anything to share with us. The only
thing I will note is that um we were me and Lauren went out with um Dave Cal, the wetland scientist, uh a couple days after our site walk out there and and we walked both of the flag lines and we didn't have any questions regarding the locations of of those existing flags.
>> Okay. So, >> and they're just fourth to August 5th. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Let's go ahead and jump. Hey Tim, what as far as um the equipment still parking in there is just um has been designated where they can park the trucks.
>> Yes. Um Lauren and I drafted and sent out um a letter and copied was it the light electric water department um town administrator's office lupi and ravoli
on um where they should not be stockpiling there or parking their equipment and stockpiling. >> Okay, thank you. >> Y u Tim, did you give them a time frame to move the equipment? I I I'd have to
go back and check. I pretty sure we said immediately. >> Okay. If you Yeah. Okay. If anybody does a driveby that was on that sidewalk, we can also look and make sure it got moved. Okay. Great. Let's go ahead and go back to administrative discussions. Star Hill, I think we're good with that
with that update. Um Tim, you had requested consom meeting schedule remainder of 2025. That was in your packet. Just want to note um 97 mil is also continuing to to August 5th as well. >> Um
I I sent around the draft for the rest of our our meetings for the rest of this year. Um I I just want to see what you guys thought of that. Um if there were any objections or comments.
>> Remind us when the fall meeting is. Town meeting. I believe it is. Let me think. October 28th, I believe. >> That's um uh is it the 28th? >> Let me double check what that Tuesday
is. Believe I planned around that in the uh >> Okay. Yeah, it looks like you did, Tim. So, we have two meetings in August. For those of you that don't see it, it's August 5 and August 19, and then we go to September 2nd and
23rd, October 7, and then 21. So, we basically have two meetings in each month. I do note I may not be at the August 5th meeting, but it's a moving target. So, does anyone have any questions on that?
Can we let um Tim go forward and and post those dates? >> Sounds good. >> Looks good to me. >> Okay. >> Yep. I agree. >> Tim, are you good with that? >> Okay, great. Um and then let's go ahead. Um Mass Ready Act.
>> Yep. So, this was just let you guys know that the governor um is introducing this bill that would streamline permitting for priority housing and co cover culvert repairs. Um, it would it simplifies permitting for natural
restoration projects, cuts duplicative administrative appeals for wetland regulations allowing local appeals to go straight to superior court. Um, and that comments on this are due to the joint committee of envir environment and
natural resources by July 29th, which I believe that should be next week. Um, >> right. So, it's still in the comment phase. >> Yes, it is. But just wanted to let you guys know. >> Yep. Okay.
Um, I neglected to ask if anybody had any other administrative actions or other updates. Tim, is there anything else you wanted to add in? >> Nope. >> Commissioners, anything else?
have anything else to add, but I I don't know if we can do this. I want to go back to 04 pond real quick. I mentioned or brought up that that likely needs an amended order of conditions. We didn't really push that through. >> Eventually eventually it will. >> Yep. >> Okay.
>> Is >> is that just for the relocation of the the boat house >> and the sitting area? >> Right. But you also you would also have to note potentially trees that were damaged
based on the arborous note and also where the path is going to be now because now it's going to be defined versus before it was wood chips. >> Yeah, it's a whole new plan. I mean that >> there's nothing new. It's entirely new. >> The alignment of that path, the
placement of the seating area, the boat house, everything is different. >> Okay. The dock is probably in a new place. It sounds like the dock's in a different place, too, because he moved it so he didn't have to take out that tree. >> So, let's not carry on with discussion of that because that's was a prior discussion.
Um, okay. May I have a motion to close the meeting? It's 8:58. If we don't have any other discussion, >> I move to close. >> Yep. There you go. Second. >> All right. Roll call vote. Ed
>> Sarah. Sarah Seward. Michael >> Michael said I >> Kyle >> Kyle >> Carl >> I'm guy myself I we're adjourned