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figure it out. When When did Mike Pru stop being on the board? Like I was here with Mike, so maybe three >> or four. >> Yeah. >> Election cycles. >> Three, I think. Three, I think. But >> yeah.

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>> Yeah. I was trying to figure it out. Um, and I couldn't remember, but I know Mike was still on. He was still serving. >> It's a good run. >> Yeah, it was uh Well, >> it was a long run.

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>> Good. I don't know. We'll say long run. >> Thank you for your >> Thank you. >> Uh, nothing here. Thank you. >> We did have a few things. Um I think this was after the last meeting.

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We did have uh met with the candidates for the assistant director. Norm was a big part of that. I was a small part of it. Um and we we do have a assistant director I think starting early May. >> May 4th. Yeah.

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>> Fourth. Yep. >> Wow. >> Something Star Wars >> exciting. >> We opened the uh rec software

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bids and reviewed those and picked one. Um although we have to fill that and rest that later. Y um and then the other thing is I have so we do have two candidates for the uh the

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open seat. Rob who's here with us tonight and James Kennedy who is not here with us but had wanted to be with us but has something else going on. Um was fortunate to have coffee with both of them and some good discussion. So I

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encourage everybody to uh follow the candidates night and their positions and etc. >> is that's tonight. >> Candidates night is yeah that's that's the last candidates night is in about 25 minutes. Um, and I I'm going to diverge slightly

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because of that self as it can be. >> And so yes, so I've been here before and I thank you for the many years that that you put in. I'll say that um the last

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few weeks I had not seen this coming. Um it was only at Dart that house wasn't going to run or select ward that I then decided to your question as your earlier I decided if I was going to move from the outside to the inside then I should

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move into areas of interest and potential you know places where I could serve. So, um, as Saul mentioned, I really appreciated you, Getty, James, and me together. Seems like a terrific, um, terrific person, terrific person

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that could provide a lot of value. So, he he jokingly said, I'm recording everything you said here. And I said, I'll probably say it in a few minutes at candidates tonight as well. So, um, if I'm elected, I hope to bring a little value to Littleton, to this this group.

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I appreciate all of you that everything that you do and and that's how I'll go about my business. You know, if elected, I'm confident James will do the exact same thing, right? Real value. So, I I feel a little bit of a thank you for what you've done and hopefully somebody

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will be able to pick up torch. >> Oh, I'm sure that I'll I'll head out over there. But, uh, thank you and hope you have a good Thank you. Good night. Thanks. Good luck by All right. Requests for space.

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>> Yeah. So, we have a couple of used requests. Um, uh, last couple of years we've done the strawberry celebration um with the show and framing Indians. Um, so strong uh has put in the Northwest.

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So, they're looking at June 27th, um, from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 pm. Um, with a rain date on the 28th, um, say 10 p.m., uh, it was a rain and they're looking at approximately 100

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to 150 attendees. Um, so they've been fantastic. We've never had any issues with them. Sadly, I've not got a chance to go out and uh see it yet. So, hopefully this year I'll be able to um because it's a really exciting thing to to be able to do that. The fact that we've done that the last couple years,

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that's really cool. So, uh yeah, so standard, nothing different than we do about it. >> Is that about the same attendance they had last year or are they growing? >> So, they're it sounds like they're growing it a little bit. Um cuz I feel like the first year he had expected

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around uh like 50 to 100. Um last year he was expecting around 100 and so yeah saying between 100 he's going. So that was great. >> At what point do we end up working?

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>> That's a great question. Um I mean it is already kind of an issue if you think about having 150 people out there, right? So um that's something I can uh catch up with them and have a conversation on what that's going to

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look like. Uh because there are limited spots available with fire department. Um there's parking along U um and we've had when we've done special events there, we've had people park um over at uh Castle Walkover. But again, June

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27th is going to be a weekend, so I'm sure Castle will be busy as well. Um so I may suggest to him to reach out to um one of the churches around the area and see if they >> do that. So >> yeah,

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>> y >> So um yeah, I will definitely have that conversation. >> Facebook has that many, but it's on a Friday night. >> Yeah. >> Virgin. Yeah. >> They still or they

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>> did it. Yeah. >> High school one year. We did it at the high school from maybe three or four. >> Then when that was under construction, we moved it. >> This is a septic system right under where

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>> it was high school and every year I helped my >> Oh, >> it's a it's a new system now. >> One year the first week of school, my best my son came home and said, "There's a septic smell in the school.

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Thanks. >> Um, roll back to a couple of updates. >> Yeah. >> Um, the select board is discussing

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policy for um facilities. So sort of two things there. One is once they get that settled, we'll actually be able to rent out

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35 street spaces that's >> in the works. >> Yeah, >> hopefully. Um, but there's probably also even be some push for evening out the the or space

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like >> getting policy across >> everything and that. Yeah. So that there should >> Do we need a motion for this or is there another one? Um, so there is a second one too. Um, but yeah. Yes. Um, but that's up to you if you want to do both on the other separate.

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>> Um, and then Littleton Road Race. Um, so they will have the race on the 20th. Um, but they usually do the 19th and 20th um or the day before obviously um to set up. So um that would be a uh guest

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reservation for those two days. And they do they they have also been doing the alcohol license. >> I I can check with Eric to see if they are still planning on doing so. Um I have not heard anything from them about

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that, but they have the past. They just would have to get permission from all of you before they got an actual um or not them specifically, but let's say they were working on derigible. Derigible would have to go ask to get a uh out the day alcohol

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license from the select board, but you guys have to approve it first. >> Well, I would make a motion to approve park use for the Littleton road race and for the NHoga PR. We'll second it. >> Good motion to second. All those in favor?

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Any opposed? Unanimous vote. >> Um I just want to bring this back up as we had this conversation um last meeting. Um so seasonal staffing uh followup um one of the action items that

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we were kind of left with uh at the end of the last meeting um was that some of the uh definitions in the actual uh employee handbook need to be updated. So Michelle is looking at doing that um on

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the May 11th uh select board meeting. Um so that's that next action item coming into play. So uh for right now there is uh nothing for corrected. Um so if there's any update then uh we'll let you know.

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>> I guess that'll be update. >> I don't know if this is on the agenda coming up or not. Um you have a hiring update section. So >> I just have a question about the aquatic director. >> Yeah. >> Do we we posted that, right?

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>> We did. Do we have We do not. However, um what our uh individual that we have per uh um um coming in as the assistant director does have an aquatics background um and has managed beaches uh

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in other towns. So, um I she will be able to be that aquatic director that we normally need on site um at the time. But if there is anybody that's still out there that I'm interested in being an aquatic director, um that is something that would be a great position to be

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able to hire for. The big issue that we have is that the individual has to be over 21 years old um and has to have had uh prior experience with waterfronts. So that's where it gets a little bit

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tricky. But yep. And is that a seasonal position or it is unfortunately? Okay. >> But that means if she can step into that role, we can still have like Camp T going to the beach and all that jazz. >> Yeah, 100%. Yeah. So, she'll just have

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to be on site when uh PFT is there. >> Okay. >> Which is fine. >> Great. Question for the >> I know. Yeah. Is she aware that um she may be doing that?

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>> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Like to get away from that. >> I 100% agree with you on that. Um yes. Uh okay. So updates on uh schedule C and

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schedule C one. Um the um town meeting board did go out. So not sure if you have not received one in your mailbox. you will very soon. Um, so on there, uh, we are updating, uh, schedule C, which we've already talked about. Um, I did

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throw this in here because, um, we did slightly change C a little bit. Um, Steve, uh, Venudi had just kind of gone back and forth and had some conversations about it, so he just wanted to tighten up the percentages overall. So, some of them were 2%. So we

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ended up making um everything across the steps the 1.75. Um so that was the only change that we really put in there. Um and this is what the change would be. It's really not that big change from

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what it was previously um or what you guys had approved. Um so schedule C1 we needed to come back to that um just because the percentages were not correct from the grid that I had last time. Um

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so this is what we had had previously. Um just note on there that the 20 25 30 and 35 um those were put in there. So the percentages look a bit skewed just because we had to start with those numbers because that's what they were

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before previously. Um, so if we use the 1.75 across the steps, um, going all the way out to step 10. Um, and then you can see in the grades and the percentages, like I said, it looks a little bit

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funny, but we had to start with the 20, 25, 30 to 35. So we just, that's why that percentage looks that way. Um but that would be the schedule C1 which is the um community uh instructor um grid

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and stuff. We do have the camp nurse and the um camp custodian on there too. Um, if you guys want to take a vote to just say you're good with it, then that's

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something we can add in at town meeting. Um, just to say that it's supported by our commission. So, I'll make a motion to uh approve the schedule C1

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>> rates for the updated rates >> FY27. >> Second a motion and a second. All those in favor >> I opposed favor. >> Okay. >> All right. So, as Saul has mentioned, um

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Moren has accepted the position. So, her first day will be on May 4th. Um, so that's uh we're really excited to bring her on and get her started and get her out the beach so we can start getting the beach

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uh minutes. So we had uh March 10th which I did update. So I did that prior. Um and then April 6th we had a special meeting. stuff on there. I would email some I had her name in in March 10th, 2026.

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>> Second motion or second to approve minutes. All in favor? >> I excuse me. >> All right. So, this is going to be a fun one. This is going to be Oh. Um, so this is going to be uh sort of like one of those train leaves the

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station. >> Oh no. >> So bear with me. Um, so uh one of the things that we were talking about was with this increase on schedule C um you know would we need to

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increase the prices for uh the beach memberships? So um before I'm getting into all this stuff here um essentially I think um what I well not I think what I am suggesting is that the resident and

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non-resident day pass that we just increase those by a dollar and that should make us good. Um so then that way we don't have to increase the membership rates um the parking rates anything like that. So it literally would just be a day pass. Um, so last year, so all of

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these calculations are based off of actuals from last fiscal year. Um, so the actual wages from summer of 25 was um 79,800 approximately. It's a little bit over. Um, so the staffing increase that we um

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are doing at this town meeting is about 2%. Um, but just in case we needed to be able to have more staff um or staff at a higher wage, I decided to use the 3%. Um, so with that, um, the, uh, the

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increase from that 79 would be about $2,349. So that's kind of what we're looking at chasing, right? Um so with that um I took the totals from the revenue that

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came from membership and passes. Um and so the total of that amount is the 48,359. Um so that contributes for about 42% of the overall annual beach revenue. Um, so

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again, if we're trying to be able to um do a cost analysis to be able to put things in the right place, then we would be looking at um the 42% um of the wage increase is what we would

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be aiming at being able to um fill by increasing the prices for the membership. So, that's only about $1,000, just a little bit over. Um, so in those two options that I threw out there, um, we could just increase the

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national resident um, day pass by six. Um, so it would be going from $5 to $6. And if we had the same amount of registrance that we had last year, um, we would be at an additional $980, so

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it' be a little bit under that $1,000 mark. Um, or you could increase the resident day pass by $1. So that would go from $4 to five. Um, and then also that non-resident would go from five to

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six. Um, and with the two of those combined, you would uh get your additional $1,245. So it's not a whole lot that we're chasing uh with it. And um I really didn't want to do a whole lot in

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changing the prices for the membership. So um I'm kind of glad it worked out this way. So realistically uh we can keep the rates just the way that they were last year um and just only increased the daily per person

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questions. Angel go back if you want to look at that stuff too. >> Aren't you chasing the 2400? How would it go to 12? What was >> No, that's okay. So, um, so if you have

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that, uh, if you add the 2,394, so up there at the very very top, if you add that to the 798, um, that's going to be that 3% increase that we're looking at for um, when we

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increase the schedule C, um, wages. So, um, if that's all we're chasing because we were able to pay for that last year, right? So the 798 was paid for that was fine. So if we're looking at just the increase of the 2000, we'll call it 2004, right?

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>> Yeah. >> Um then um not everything the the membership and the passes I don't think should have to pay for everything, right? Because we still have

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so down here the other 58% of that 3% it'd be covered by concessions and sailing camp. Was that what you were asking? Okay. So, um yes. So, the rest of that did increase sailing camp a little bit. >> Um and uh we can also increase the the

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prices a little bit at the snapshot, too. >> And does that also cover what we said we were going to be putting into clean lace? Okay. And where where did we

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come out on balance last year? Well, >> I get I don't remember off the top of my head. Um, but we were I want to say it was like6 or $7,000 surplus. >> Surplus. >> Yeah.

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>> Yep. >> Was that involved? And like they applying just to be the non-resident of Greece. >> Yeah, absolutely. What's the percentage of non-residents versus residents on the on the day pass?

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>> Um, >> it's now I got to get out. It's about three three between 3 and 41. Yeah. So, there's definitely more of the non-resident um daily pass. So, over the

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course of a summer, um there was 970. So, some of this it doesn't mean that that's unique users could be people that you know came back multiple times, right? >> Um but uh yeah, the the day-to-day resonance is um much much lower.

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Yeah, I would tell. >> Does it still hold true that if somebody came so many times or a day passed, they could roll into um some >> membership pass? Yeah. >> Yep. And as you're thinking because it would

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be easier for residents to not have to suffer through another increase with everything going on. >> I get that. I get that as well. So >> then I think the >> because we start what they start so

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close together is you add a dollar to each one they get even sort of less differentiated. >> Yeah. So giving it a little space and then four and six is gives it a little more >> difference between >> so essentially everything's going to

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stay the same except that the non-resident rate could go up $1. So instead of P5 >> unless there's other changes that you wanted to make. >> I would like to know

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this fine. >> Does the membership rate include a parking sticker or it does? Okay. >> Okay. There you have it. family is more than like an additional sticker. So you get one with that family

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membership. Um but uh yeah, if you want for you know one parent because the the sticker itself has to be fixed to the window. It's not transferable. So yeah, >> the seaming rate is 60 and up.

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So the yes the age is 60 and up. So the individual is >> the money >> and my transfer station pass. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you with the benefit. Um so yeah

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the um senior pass 60 plus and um $15 for a resident 25 for non-resident. That's just an individual couple be 25 resident. Um, the non-resident would be great. I'll um make a motion to um accept the

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the beach membership rates with the inclusion of adding a dollar to the daily rate for non-residents. >> I will second that >> motion a second. All those in favor

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>> I question while we're talking about beach stuff. >> Yeah. >> Did we ever get our signage? >> No. >> That's where we're going next. >> Okay. Don't >> task. So yeah, we um we went through some different

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iterations last time. Um so I did implement those. Um so hopefully this works. Um if so then I will get them ordered tomorrow. Um, so, uh, a couple of things that we did change is

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that, uh, we made sure that the, um, opened on the dusk was on the the signs because that was asked for. Um, I think on this one that was the only

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thing that changed. Yeah. And that would be the only big change on this one. >> But it's good that we've got the Memorial Day to Labor Day and that will appease some of that concern. >> Yep.

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>> Um take out seasonable town parking permit required. >> Yeah. >> I just like I did not want there to be any confusion that it was not seasonal that that seems to be the big issue here. >> Yeah.

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>> So, if you would like me to, I absolutely can. I well I I wonder if it causes confusion between like the requiring a parking pass like a the season pass

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versus a data required. >> Well, it says or daily pass also required, right? second bullet. >> Yeah, that's the that's the be like the what we just changed the number. So, it's a you can park but then you also

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access the beach as well. >> What is all the writing on the Oh, that's >> we will go there next. I will hop there ahead of time. So, this was some of the things um we I also changed. So last time I had just changed that it was

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active Memorial Day and Labor Day. Um and then added membership card versus we had beach tag on the old one. Um and we had expiration dates on the old one. So instead of that it just says Memorial Day. Um and then again added the Long

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Lake Beach is open. No, I got it. But um do we call membership card? Is that the same term we use somebody as a date pass or is that confusing? >> Well, they're not going to have uh you wouldn't have day pass with this because

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membership. >> Okay. Yeah. So, it's up to you if you want me to take out seasonal again. >> What What's the reasoning behind taking on a seasonal? just the you could have the membership pass or you buy a day

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pass and the seasonal I might not recognize that I could buy a day pass if I see seasonal pass required but I could be overthink >> yeah I think it is good to have it there too

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>> it's even though it's repetit a little bit repetitive >> strikes the point Okay. >> Worst case scenario, maybe somebody will go ask like, "Yeah, >> can I park here with a daily pass?"

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>> Well, you most time well they'll hopefully buy pass. It's in play. >> Yeah. And we have staff that's down there that um we've got like a little tent that was set up. So hopefully check in with that person.

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for um ticketed and towed. Do we have to say at owner's expense or is that implied and okay? >> How often does it happen? >> Yeah. Do we actually >> There's There's no teeth in this.

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>> None. So, all right. So it's a just an allo threat. >> Violators will be ticketed and towed. >> Yeah. I mean, >> can we make our own tickets? >> Yeah. >> We out of this buddy. >> Yeah. No, let's make our own tickets.

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>> Um, yeah. We did like little warnings and people really thought they were genuine tickets. Uh, so they'd call and be like, "Oh gosh, how do I pay for this ticket?" But it's not. It's a warning. tax something in the bylaw that we could set up on the lease, but that's

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>> we're not going there. That's a whole other time by an aquatics director. So, that's beyond that. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> And how big >> um so they'll be the same as they were

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before. So there >> now we talked about >> for the spaces on the street having >> something different than a parking lot.

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Um, I thought about that and so I set this one up so that I felt like it could handle both of us because I I feel like the Long Lake Beach is open dawn till dusk

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was being requested of the ones within the parking lot, but it can't hurt to just have it out there in general. Um, yeah. Do we have uh because hasn't another thing been people being boxed out of

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their driveways or whatnot? Do we have spots where people cannot go and park? >> So, Highway took care of that. So, when um they went out and painted the lines, there's space that's available. Um and the um the folks that have like they

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live there um you know we told them that you know when you guys have guests overnight or whatever like just park there it's fine. Um, yeah, cuz they live there. But, um, yeah, otherwise um, yeah, I don't think there has I mean,

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ever since Highway went through and repainted things, there really hasn't been. >> Okay. Just don't just don't park there during winter parking ban. >> We don't have that >> in town. We do. >> Oh, I guess so. Yeah, we do. You can't

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park on the streets. park on the streets. >> Think about that. >> November to >> I don't park on the streets. So, I guess first world problem for me, right? >> They really It's one of those they really don't care until it's not problem. And then it's a major problem.

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>> I feel like that happens more in parking lots a lot. >> Yeah. >> Just throwing it out there for our wide audience. Love it. We're not overriting the police rules. >> Yes. >> Uh All right. Are we happy with this? Everybody?

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, do we do we need the sticker on this side? Because the this would be again going back to either don't believe the sticker language on this

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side, right? The department it can be a hang tag or it can be a sticker. So, you want me to get rid of the example permit? >> No. All right. Uh, >> I assume the day they attack or they're like

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>> they're just Yeah, >> I mean I could if you want me to I can add on underneath the sticker must be a fix to windshield. field um for date pass hung on uh rearview mirror

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>> is that that would be the only way to really >> Yeah. do we need >> include that? Do we need the sticker and shaker language or does just the >> I think less is better. Like I you know you go to Boston and there's the sign

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you know the 30 you have to sort of like figure out you know wording you know brief concise and then done. >> Yeah. So, I don't know if like the like

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the picture if we could move the picture of the permit and then just have those bullet points there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The picture and just the two the second two bullet points and the the open hours would be >> that can be a little bigger.

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>> Well, I don't think you can get rid of the first one because the second one is about um if you're a visitor, you need the >> the big text at the top covers the first J and the exceptions are in the white box.

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>> Each member the additional information. >> So the only thing that will be on there is the second two bullets. >> Yeah. So >> it's just less for people to ignore. >> True. >> You could add in that owner's expense.

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You took the space you wanted. >> Should it happen? >> I was going to say that one actually does if you get code. Yeah. >> Yeah. We said we're not going. But >> should I think that every

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parking violation sign I have ever seen in the world says bad or >> expensive. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's right. >> All right. So, I will get rid of the permit photo, remove the first bullet on there and add in at expense to to get it

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into >> any other comments. Stop me before I share something else. >> Let's see what we need to vote or is this >> I mean, it's helpful because yeah, I feel like that's just having that backup behind it. All right, I will vote with all those changes we just said to

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approve the sign. >> I'll second case motion here. Motion a second for the pre the amendments. All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> All right. Um so the draft um of the

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sticker, if you guys are okay with this, then I can get those into production. Um, so if there's anything that you'll want to change on those >> going to be blue. That's exciting. >> I can also change the color.

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>> We've gone through the rainbow thus far, so I was looking for some different colors. >> Why not? Why not? Why not? >> All right. I I vote to approve the draft of the 2026

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each sticker and size will not be on there. Um it's just going to be uh yeah which and I can get rid of backgrounds. It doesn't have to be there. Um it was just something kind of played around

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with so it look a little nicer. Um, >> so with the park hours, does that mean the lake and the playground or is that just the playground? >> No, that's everything. Yeah. But I mean, we don't want people swimming after nor should you use

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We're very specific about a lot of things, which is why I'm >> asking um yeah, if we need to include illegal drugs. I mean, we've got no alcohol, no smoking or vaping.

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We could add that. I don't know if we have to, but it just seems like we're very specific. So if you want me to add to like No, I could do no alcohol or illegal substance substances. >> Yeah. >> Well,

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>> I mean it's so specific. >> Yeah, I mean I feel like the things that we're saying no to are permitted elsewhere. >> Okay. >> Right. So >> illegal drugs are already What's that? >> Alcohol not in public though.

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You can't go to like walking rooms. You I don't think Well, we own Fay Park. I was going to say you can't just be you can't just be up at the common. We'll say that. >> Yeah. >> Drinking a wine glass having a beer. >> That's true. Right. But that's a I mean

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that's another park that like you can sit outside of a restaurant if it has bad. >> Yeah. But usually don't they account for that? >> Yeah. and other >> you had to be fenced in. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Other places you can start to do that

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but >> Massachusetts you can't alcohol. >> Not Savannah door. >> Yeah. >> Not New Orleans, >> but I mean I was just asking to ask really. Yeah. No, that's a great question.

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>> Yeah. I I don't think we I don't think we need to >> It's a lot here. >> Call out things that are not otherwise illegal. slowly. >> Yeah. >> Um there is a random period after do not

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leave pets and vehicles. Nothing else has one. made a motion. >> Can we just go back and look at that other thing for And can I see what the emergency looks like on this next one? No flotation device is the most common

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thing that you're speaking to people on daily basis. >> Is it up there? >> It's up there. >> You want it up in the list? I surely >> that would be the only suggestion that >> they seem to remember that kids

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>> it's a common >> it's a for the individuals we have to communicate to them about it's kind of like heated subject that's fair because at least if someone's seeing it it's the top left thing you're most likely to see

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Move the flamingo up. >> Sorry. >> No, that's totally easily. >> Where would you like it? >> Just closer thought. >> Should I move no glass containers down?

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I bet you put a top top of no smoking vaping. I think those are bigger. We still like even though it says at UC people. >> Yeah. >> Um alcohol is an interesting one because

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I had one day I was out there and there was uh two individuals drinking the Dell Chandies and um if they were like it's lemonade. It's not alcoholics. And I was like, yes. >> That's right.

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>> Would you like me to show you alcohol perception? >> Dandy means alcohol. >> I have to confiscate them and drain them down the thing. So >> nice try though. >> That is that's a value. That's

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>> I mean it's getting hard now to tell you. >> You are 100% correct. Right. >> Yeah. seltzer from soda from >> other things. So >> because there's tons of the like the mocktails that are out there that are thinking that too. So >> yep.

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>> So I have something that can be totally disregarded. Uh not feel bad. So prohibited at beach >> and swimming notice. >> Wouldn't flotation no flotation devices

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be better under swimming notices? notice then prohibited at beach. Just throwing that out there. >> I can put it >> because I think you can say like you got to listen to the lifeguards, no swimming

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outside the lines, no flotation devices under swimming where the other stuff is on the beach, vaping, alcohol, glass containers. >> Makes sense. That's the first times everyone every

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anyone has said that to me, Norm. So, >> um I don't know. I would just maybe put it under the swimming part because that's when you're going to run into it. >> Just thought it would have all the >> I know. I know. I >> switch overnight parking. >> Yeah. No,

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>> makes sense. >> Yes. Like it the nose. And it keeps your uh >> I know I didn't want to ruin the symmetry there. Like it looked nice. And

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>> in terms of printing with this type of background, do we know if that would look good? >> Um so I am going to I'm not sure about this one specifically. Um it definitely has

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more of like a textured look to it. Um, I am working with this one in Canva. Um, I think Nate had kind of put this together with AI, so I'm rebuilding it. Um, so I will make sure everything is extremely sharp as it possibly can be.

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And I will save it at a very high resolution so that it's out and make sure it's, you know, compliant in terms of somebody if somebody has color blindness. >> Yep. I do that. >> And this goes where? like on the building or

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>> so there is one that's on the building. >> That's correct. >> And there are uh each of the lifeguard stands. There is one on the back of each of those. >> Uh and see if there's anything else. >> Go back to the

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>> That goes back to your park question. because I can also put it at the walkway entrance over um where we have the stone walkway. You can just put in over on thread as well. We don't have anything about

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>> weapon. >> They had they had fireworks and something fireworks, right? No kidding. That's all there. Um I I don't love the town and beach

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officials must be obeyed and I don't love that language but I think something >> okay like that again. >> Yeah. Yeah. Lifeguards recent or something. >> Yeah.

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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Talk to the sign maker. If the background is >> makes sense, great. If not, >> you know, >> or if it increases the cost, >> right? Substantially. >> Yeah. Like now those usually are

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>> Yeah. You're alreadyating to multiolor. So, >> yeah. Now it says Long Lake Beach recreational area and we're saying this is applying to the playground too, right? >> Is there a sign?

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>> It's encompassing the entire >> Okay. space. But is there anything by the playground that we can put that there? >> Well, I say we had talked about housing that we have at the moment, but

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drills of some variety. >> Yeah, talk about that. So that would conflict with our notifiers, >> right? If we change, >> I don't know where those are at the moment. >> So I I think we may have, but I'm not

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100% sure. >> So maybe not at the playground then because it would be a direct violation if we ever give to having said space to rent out. I think it's still an important one to put on there because

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we're there's a lot of people that will show up with those little charcoal grills >> and even if we had like a random spot for folks to do that, I still want folks to know like you can't >> can't do. >> Yeah.

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>> Okay, that's fine. Yeah. We have to make an adjustment something built on That was >> Yeah, I don't think >> you never know. But probably >> can't believe I forgot weapons. That's crazy.

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>> So, I can't believe I forgot weapons. >> Oh, yeah. All right. So, I will update those things. Um, and then we still have the old signs that are up there, so we can probably wait to get

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the next one. Yeah, there we go. Okay. Um, special events budget. We actually did that last month, so I'm sorry I left that on there. Um, so the reminder just for the eval, um, we did want to try to

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do that prior to the election. Um, I did do an update of the, um, goals where I'd kind of accomplished that for this year. Um, I turned that into Jim. So, uh, but I have not had a chance to update the

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whole thing. So, um, I will make that a priority to get that done, um, either this week or the next week. Um, and then just wanted to see if we can schedule a date. So, we try to stay on. >> Well, you and I and Jim.

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>> Okay. >> Oh, good. Um, and then recreation software. So, um, Saul had kind of mentioned before, um, sound administrator has signed the contract with Bre Technologies over the weekend. Um, so we are going to go with

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Re Technologies. Um, so we'll be implementing the new uh recreation software um that will hope the goal is to be able to have it open July 1st. Um, but the only thing that's going to be on there are fall

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programs. Um, so through the summer we'll still be on my um so we do have a kickoff meeting this Friday with um Rec Technologies to start working on everything. We have a lot of conversations to have in the future. So that's what we're

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working on. Um >> public um so new business. Um this I just kind of wanted I guess I could have done this in the director's update. There are a lot of wasps nests around so I want to try and take care of that now rather than it becoming a bigger problem. So

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there's like one at Town Hall, there's one on Chadic baseball field. There's also another one that just found out about on um uh Shaker Lane baseball field. Um and then they are back again

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at 300K Street. So I do have um a request out to a company to come in, a company we've used in the past to come in and just try to get that taken care of sooner than later. Um, so I'm hoping either Thursday or Friday I'll be able

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to work something out with them to get them out there. So, but we did add um extra funds in to be able to to pay for this because I had a feeling this is going to be contin >> um some are in the ground and some of them are like uh like the roof of the

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dugout. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh, and they really love castle. Uh, and they love to get into the spires at the top. >> So, we had a >> just as a it was this seemed ridiculous,

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but the um gray fabric bags >> do actually work pretty. Yes. >> Okay. >> Not 100%, but >> yeah, >> the one they're supposed to mimic. Yeah,

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they Yeah, they confuse them into thinking there's already a mess there. >> So maybe I can put those inside. >> Yeah, >> after they're gone. Yeah, >> right. >> Well, we we got rid of an infestation

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two years ago and last summer was fine, but now they're back again. So, and already Yeah. >> Yeah. They just started coming out. >> Yeah. They're looking They're looking for new helps. disrupted my whole classroom today.

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>> One was I'm like, guys, it like you. It's amazing what one bug can do in a classroom of middle schoolers. >> Would you rather that or >> I don't know. >> See, it's not cool anymore. Stop doing

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it. >> That's done. Okay. Um, and I literally literally just put the portaotties out at uh 300 King Street and I had a message today from Rada and

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they were the worst I've ever seen them. Um, so I may pull the portaotties from the site until I can work with Jim to figure out what the solution is going to be. Um, because

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we've tried everything under the sun, you know, over the past 10 years that I've been here. and um unless so we either have to really figure out a way to enforce the pack it in pack it out

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which I did create signs and they're all over the park that say that um so um we either really find a way to be able to implement that or if we are going to put the portaotties out then we have to look

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at you know do we put trash out the same time and if we to who's cleaning that because right now that's the problem is like right now the only staff we have are the full-time staff that are there. Um and you know adding trash collection

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onto our daily it's not something we really have the time to be able to do. Um nor is it really in the job description, right? But it also says >> and they're putting the trash in the portaotties again. Is that what they >> Yeah. And it's bad. like I've never like

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to the top. I've never seen that before. >> Um, so I don't know that I'm going to pull them, but it is something I'm thinking about, but I wanted you all to know about that because I'm sure it's going to

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>> yeah, become a big issue. Um, but yeah, they can't be respected like can't we can't keep doing that. And it's not cuz >> then the staff from Rata that come there to clean the board bodies like they're not paid to be bad.

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>> Um and it causes a big issue. So uh yeah. So if I do end up bullying them, I will let you all know. Um but either way, whenever we try to work out with um Jim,

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um I can send that solution along and and let you all know. But do we know our other towns faced with these same issues? >> Um, is there something special about us? >> So, so yes, everybody always deals with

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trash issues. That's that's um 100%. But, you know, we don't have that issue with Fate Park. We don't have trash can park, right? We just have port body there, but it doesn't have. So, um, Castle of the Trees is a playground that

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is a destination spot. >> Yeah. >> So, we get a lot of people from other areas that come by. Um, because we're on like a main thoroughare, I've seen people that will just go in there, clean out their whole car, just throw

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everything into, you know, the trash cans that are there. Um, we try to just put trash cans out further into the park and still matter. So, um yeah, we've we've done everything from like looking at getting

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the big belly trash cans that compact everything. Um just not I I don't know. I'm kind of baffled by it because it's like when the portaotties are not there, it's not really an issue, but as soon as the

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porties show up, then >> well, the use goes through the roof at the same time, right? So to >> so you know we we put the porta potties out there because you know it's it's a playground with young children and you know we want parents to be able to enjoy

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and be there but if we have to keep doing this with the portaotties you just may have to go with a you know visit as long you know as you can but uh then the other issue is when we there's

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situations in the past where you've not have the foreign bodies or we put the foreign bodies out later and then we just buy diapers just to >> I was going to say yeah >> so um it is one of those

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ultimate u issues that is really hard to find a solution for. So, >> can we can we hire one of the trash companies to come by the rib or safely? >> They're not going to fish it out of the porta potty.

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>> No, no, but if you have trash cans, >> if there trash cans out, does that solve the problem? >> Is it because the trash cans are full that people are putting it in the porta potty? >> There's no trash cans right now. >> And there's signs that say this is a

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pack it in, pack it out facility. Do we have cameras so we can be like it's the threat of big brother >> bathrooms? Yeah. >> No, but I mean outside >> I know but yeah parking lot >> we could but then again how do we

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enforce that? Yeah, just fine. >> It is a full-time job that you know we don't have time for that right now. But um >> but if there was just like I mean no one wants to see a dumpster but

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>> the dumpster is just going to be >> that would be even worse probably. Yeah. Cuz everyone >> throw my match in there. >> Yeah. If you lock it up, I'm just going to throw it in front of it or beside it or behind it. We do have some issues

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like that down. >> Um >> I think we should at least get a price for having service with a trash like at least >> I don't know if they do trash. Yeah, that's the thing, right?

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>> Yeah. Not daily probably. Yeah, >> you got to do that once a week, but not >> so I would look into it and that's not something I'd really looked into was like a contracted service. Um, so I >> at least be happy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> The guys I mean I don't know, right? It's not the problem is is that we can't pass that cost on to anybody because it's not because of membership. We don't charge for anything there, right? something like that. >> So, it's at some cost, but >> um >> Does the town even have a trash truck?

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>> It does. >> It does. >> Yeah, >> there's one. Yeah. >> I mean, >> every other day for the summer to have town come by with trash truck. >> Well, so that's the thing. in the in

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this the summer we're able to manage it more because we can use the seasonal staff >> um to go down and to remove it. You know, I think we do it like every two days. >> Um but uh it's the the biggest problems are the shoulder seasons. So now in

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spring Yeah. Um, and then after the beach closes, too. >> Well, I'm thinking like if if the town has a trash truck, >> the shoulder seasons is maybe when they could do it every other day, >> right? >> And then in the summer when it's more

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seasonal staff, maybe we >> take that on, right? >> Take that on. So, it's not like it's a year round thing. It's just whatever. When do when did you put the portal? So the border botties there are no trash cans right now. >> Correct. So the border potties were put

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out on the 1 of April. >> So like 1 of April to what you know >> essentially would be through the end of May. >> End of May and then seasonal staff comes on board >> through mid August and then we start losing people.

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>> So it's it's not I don't know. I think that would be like a reasonable sort of compromise of getting it done. What does the town trash? What do they pick up? >> Yeah. What does Why do we have a trash

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>> at the town offices? >> No, we have our own service. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure. >> Because there's a some But there's going to be a problem, right? If we go thought somebody when I've tried this when I've had this discussion before, there's a a

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union if we hire this if we sub this out, >> there's a union concern. >> Correct. >> Correct. Yeah, >> you're taking work away from DP10. >> Yeah, >> that won't. So if it comes to that, if they refuse to do it, how are we taking

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work away? >> So >> yeah, >> we that's we're looking at all things in conversations >> with the talent, >> which is what I think. So, so if we at least had a price, so I would I would

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think that some of the So, there's Harvey >> that does all the residential, right? Basically, there's a bunch of them that all have >> that do residential pickup in town. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, they're already here is your point.

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>> Probably probably do town daily just for different routes. >> Exactly. does come uh weekly. So you can then >> I spared you a photo out this time put

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it in the >> but at some point they're going to say we're not doing >> 100% but they did a few years back and said like hey we really need help with this right now. So that's where I'm like I'm going to have to make a decision

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in the next two days of do we just say >> can we also so as long as you're making signs can we make a sign that says these will be removed if crash problems continue. I've tried that in the past, but don't I think I think somebody's doing that.

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>> Exactly. Yeah, that's what >> I assumed it didn't work, but >> so I think we >> usually doesn't start this early, but here we are from it's been beautiful. It's >> been a nice week. Go outside, enjoy the beautiful things,

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but take care of the trash appropriately. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The problem. It's the problem with carry carrying car. >> We'll see though. >> Like I I get if you know you're there and you you know, oops, I forgot I left

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my water bottle there. That stuff happens all the time. But >> um you know, people actively >> getting take out, eating the meal there, and then just leaving. Yeah, >> there. Yeah.

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>> Don't be a litter bug. Give a hoot. Don't pollute. Got it. >> That thing is right off the That's right off the intersection. Two major highways. >> I know. >> So, I feel like we have more of an issue than some other parks do, right? Because

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of that. >> Yep. >> That's correct. Yeah. >> Um, okay. So, got nothing. Um, >> nope. We got something. >> Uh, yes, the uh additional docs.

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>> Oh god, I have not I know it's not I know it needs to be taken care of. I literally have not had two seconds to even look at >> and I think I would I would like to get the RFP together.

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um and at least deal with the fishing dock side. I would kind of be okay with um >> I have not even had a single conversation with conservation office yet either.

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>> I have. >> Yeah, there are no >> in fact did uh Tim reach out. Um they were looking for the cost of the

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adopt. >> Yeah. >> Or they're they're they're interested in understanding what the cost is if they were going to purchase the >> um >> a lot of work too.

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>> That's a separate thing. But no, our there's no issue with the fishing dock going in. Um >> I would be happy for our new aquatics director or director, whoever to

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>> have some time down in Shandle Beach before we make a >> put that center dock in. >> Right. Yeah. >> There may be a different view on whether that's valuable or not valuable or what side spin box.

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But the if we can get the RFP together and and be ready to place them. >> Yeah. >> And make leave it adjustable enough so we can decide if we want one. >> Yeah. >> More or less served. >> I mean I I do have some questions as to

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if the RFP the exact one we needed. Uh I know before Tim had left you had a conversation with someone from 30 hotline. No it wasn't 30 hotline. we went and did the um uh office of the interior general um course on you know

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doing procurement um and he had brought that specific topic up and they said that because it is adding to an additional set that we have already put money into that they didn't believe that we needed to do

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that. So, um, but again, we have to >> have that discussion with Jim. >> Yeah. And we have to go by what our town officer says. So, >> yeah, >> but we can. >> Yeah.

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>> It It would also be nice not to have as many kids fishing on the boat dock. >> Yeah. No, I hear I feel like they're going to do it anyway, but Yeah. >> I'm sure they will. But if there's another place, they Yeah. There's another spot and then better fishing, they'll go there.

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>> In the past, I put a closed sign on there with like a little uh carabiner. >> Yeah. >> And it's so funny because then you'll see people still fishing on the other end like, "Hey, did you not see the sign?" No, >> you walked over it. >> Then all putting their boats in walk

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around, too. So, I saw it. I just ignored it. >> Yeah. And I think I mean I think we could There was a no fishing sign at one point. Yeah. Um because they were fishing within the uh swimming area and

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we were concerned about moving hooks and severity. So yeah, we tell people they cannot fish in box, >> right? >> So they're at the end of that dock too. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Because you usually those

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public access docks are no fishing >> or the ramp the ramps are they don't want people fishing in the ramp area. >> Yeah. I mean >> same same reason >> busy area >> busy area >> things in and out barefoot.

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>> Yeah. dock something. >> There used to be like a five foot dock over on the other side of the attention pond thing. So >> yeah, >> and that's what I'm talking we're talking about. >> Yeah. Doing over there. That was

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definitely better fish. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> It'll get them away. They don't get all the fish. That's where everybody Yes. >> So yeah, that was ultimately the goal to to work with conservation. Yeah. So

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>> um semi-related I think there's also cons is also discussing u kayak storage on their piece of boat storage on their piece of property. So get out of that business.

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>> Sweet. As you saw there, u moving the administration of the Clinton Lakes or the Long Lake revolving from Clinton Lakes to Conscom. >> Yep. >> So that's

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they will help if they decide to. >> Yeah, >> they're still talking. >> Yes. >> Well, that's good. So when people ask about that, I will not say concom is considering this. >> Yes,

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>> that does come up in my daily life. >> So they're also they're also considering >> rewing that entire uh >> oh >> uh parcel. So >> that's a new one. >> If you are hearing from people, they

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should go talk to about what they would like to see there. >> Okay. like that patch of land there or >> the entire strip from >> Long Lake Park all the way around. >> Oh, okay. But it's >> there's that p one patch of grass like

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across looks like a lot, but it's it's not on the lake side of that of whatever road that is. It's on the other side. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, >> that's a lot. >> What is that? Is that a private lot or is that >> No, it's com lot. >> That's a com. Okay. >> Oh, wait, wait, which one? Which one? Sorry. the one that we were talking

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about for kayaks. >> That's where the capital storage. Yeah. Is right. Y that's what I was talking about. That's consum. I think it's associated with that with the frog pond. >> Oh, okay. I was right that we >> to go along the lake.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I think there um I think there used to be like way way back u there was like a snack shack that was there. Um but yeah, conservation >> way back

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for pond was like >> oh what you're like oh that wasn't that long ago >> long link was sold as my grandfather owned a lot on long link >> in the early 1900s >> and it was like a vacation destination where you go

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>> yeah we s we saw did you >> we my mother came to long lake vacation >> from Cambridge grandfather came from >> that was there the center >> right there. Let me show you.

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>> Yeah. So the the Snapchat that was there on that property that's just a square of Yeah. You know that used to be I think it was in the 50s that they had like the Snapchat. >> So yeah, it's had many different iterations. If you were also in that

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time somehow the bath house appeared. We don't know when or why or how it was paid for dropped by aliens. Who knows? But >> doesn't matter. >> It's there. Still there. >> That's another that's another project for another day.

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>> Yeah. So, all right. Well, you got anything else? >> Kevin, >> nothing for me. Meeting adjourned. >> I'll give that one to you. Um so so now that for the person has

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come um that we have a person who's actively speaking about shake gift >> we need to reach back out to them to say what's the longterm plan for the

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>> uh yes absolutely so my understanding from the last conversation that we had um is that the I am not I guess we shouldn't I'm

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not a fan of the process but um there's just a question markish there and they're like we'll get to that later on. So they're not in the place where they're having conversations about what the design of that will look like. Um so

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but yes, we need to stay on top of that. Um and Dave McManis from um Littleton Youth Baseball and softball has been really great about that. >> Yeah. So, um >> I've heard from both um

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Ben has told us >> Mike Lyn told me that the softball field, the old varsity softball field is sinking and is not >> that is the process to bring that back. >> Yeah.

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>> Have a feeling will be prohibitive to what >> really? >> Yes. the one that's high school. >> So although that has been mock balled, it is sinking while it is locked. >> And so if we But the baseball field

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um think Ben told us has um irrigation which is going to be if we shorten that that is a 90 foot field and if we shorten that to be a 60 70 foot field we're going to have the irrigation. Um, so there's a lot, right? And if that

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youth baseball is going to need to replace those fields in a year, >> right? >> Which >> I mean, ideally, yeah. So, theoretically, they will go offline. Shaker Lane fields will go offline

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um at the mid end of August. Uh >> which is about when summer baseball will end. >> Fall ball starts after Labor Day, but football is typically a small program, so we could they could probably manage. But

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>> yeah, and so I think we've talked about that a little bit, but yeah. So for the goal would be we need to have something for next spring for um space that's going to be usable

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>> starting from we're essentially starting from scratch to replace sh. >> So >> yeah. So there's there's it's definitely like a a twofphase process because we have to figure out what the interim is going to

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be um to get us through the next >> two to three hopefully not four years but that could be >> because they're talking about the movement date was >> so that was one that they >> 28 >> yeah they changed it so originally they

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think they had said 31 um but they have reduced it to 28 eight, but that was so the speed in which they're getting in there and uh working on the Shaker Lane fields

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and like shutting them down was not supposed to happen as quickly as it is. So, I think, you know, baseball is supportive, you know, and we'll try to figure out what we're going to how we're going to get around it, but um they're

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supportive of, you know, trying to get in there faster if that means that they're going to be done with the building in 28, you know. Yeah. >> So, probably 27 28 best case scenario

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probably probably looking at spring 29 this year before you could get at best because even even >> like they're going to finish the school and move in but the old building's still there >> right still going to be like going

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>> before we get to rebuilding things >> right >> so so pro and probably losing two of the in my mind right you lose two of those fields >> you're going to lose So all of them. So we need So yeah, you're losing all of them for the three

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years. So and then the two >> I don't know if they'll be able it depends. Um I'm not sure that they'll be able to bring back Shaper fully, but it it just depends on what their footprint, >> right? No. >> Right. They're so over break they're

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going to do all these pit tests out there, which is also not great. Um, so we're trying to to work with them. So they're having a landscaping crew that's going to come in and fix it

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>> once they leave, but also grass doesn't grow in a day. So um, >> back in >> where there's going to be some big >> There's a 500 foot hole in castings from a 500. >> So there's a geothermal which is

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>> Right. Right. Yep. Um and then some of the other the other pit testings um for Cougar and Ken White are just like they're all over the place and they're varying sizes. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Great. But no, I

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just think like the Ken White and >> those are gone for good. >> Yes, they will be. Yeah. >> And the Shaker Lane field was super. So there's three fields starting next spring that we need a solution. >> Yep.

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>> Softball might be softball now that that field has lights. Yeah. Is a little better off. >> Yeah, that has helped a bit. >> And you may be able to like through scheduling but I mean right this little kids can't play at night

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>> 100%. So >> yeah, >> but and if you skinned, so if we repurpose the varsity field, then we skin it. So don't >> Yeah. >> Um use a for baseball and softball, but

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yeah, there's only so many hours in it. >> Yeah, because we do that at Shaper Lane right now. It's used for baseball and softball. >> It's skin field is not >> Yeah. >> an ideal situation. >> It is not. But for temporary solution for a couple years But yeah,

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>> that's we're going to have to do what we need to do through it. >> But that is yes. But we need either so we'll have whatever the irrigation solution is, right? That if that's if irrigation is the biggest problem with that field, but then it's also you're hitting a baseball with two soccer

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fields, right? >> Yeah. >> Y so we have a lot of discussions. >> It's deep. Um and I mean really that discussion has to take with the schools

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unless we have someone else >> unless we go rent field somewhere else that >> right which is also that >> we're looking at everything at this point in time. I mean, we've even talked about, you know, can we do a sand lot

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over at Uber Farm just for like two years to get us through and have like a gravel parking lot. >> Yeah. again just not for that to become baseball field but that >> well

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>> well I know I feel like we could do it relatively easy >> but um >> and you're replacing I mean we have to replace a seven like there's this the kids who play on that 70 foot diamond at Sha like it's not like the little kids who play right

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>> behind the old library like you have to have a decent size Yeah, >> but yet W's not an option. >> No, it's a 90. >> Yeah. Sorry, kid. No, no home runs for a couple years.

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>> Yeah, it's the base distance and the pitching distance. So, you can't >> Yeah, >> you can't move a mound in 10 ft on that, >> right? Softballs in here. >> Softballs much easier. You can move people

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from college to >> first grade. >> Oh yeah, right. August is going to come back. Whatever answers we're going to come up with. >> Mr. Kevin made a motion. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. All

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>> in favor? Bye. >> Bye.