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Part 1 (Video ID: wA8zQJofbdE):
- 00:00:10: Meeting Call to Order & Introduction of New Director
- 00:01:34: Approval of Purchasing Card and Waterfront Wheelchair Access
- 00:07:05: Commissioner Rob Brown Introduction and Baseball Field Planning
- 00:11:13: Gaga Pit Entrance Sand and Softball Field Clay
- 00:13:41: Town Meeting Review, Touch a Truck, and Pickleball Update
- 00:16:13: Acceptance of April 15th Minutes and Election of Officers
- 00:19:24: Nomination and Second to Appoint Kate As Chair
- 00:21:55: School Committee and Community Preservation Committee Liaison
- 00:24:13: Whitcomb Irrigation, Sports Council and PMPC Update
- 00:30:12: Committee Structure, Director's Supervision and Policy Creation
- 00:34:51: Goals, Meeting, Summer Hours and Sign Regulations
- 00:37:41: Policy, Finance, Goals and Planning Discussion
- 00:41:49: Prioritizing Master Plan & Open Space Goals and Schedule Meeting
- 00:50:58: Town Meeting Rundown, Finance & Trash Updates
- 01:03:07: Accounting Procedures Discussion & Beach Operation Challenges
- 01:10:00: Grant, Trash in Parks, Policy and Clean the Porta-Potties
- 01:15:50: Beach Information Session Discussion and Goals
- 01:27:32: How Will The Public Be Informed of the Beach Session?
- 01:37:27: Public Input: More Access at the Beginning
- 01:39:44: Summer Hours, Sign Regulations and Pet Policy


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Good evening. Welcome to the May 12th meeting of the Louis and Park Recreation Commission. Call to order. Our first order of business is to introduce >> Meen. Um Meen is our new assistant

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director. So this is officially 7 days on the job today. >> Today is 7 day seven. Yep. There you go. So um anything you want to say? >> I'm very excited to be here and I'm very excited to work alongside Alicia and do some have some like

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do some great things in the development. >> Yeah. So you come with loads of experience. We're really excited to have here. Yes. >> You do? >> Yeah. >> I know. I do. Yes. Oh yes. Yeah. So my background is outdoor education, environmental education. I started years ago at the

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Hawaii Nature's Classroom and then uh found myself in a municipality in PED which was fantastic and I went over to Hopington for two years which gave me more growth in waterfront more waterfront experience I should say. And then uh I saw this job come up and I was

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like this should be like the next step in my my career and I know how great the parks rec department is and I was very excited to even be considered. So to be have this job I'm just incredibly happy and excited to be here with us. >> Welcome aboard.

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>> We're happy to help you. Uh, one order of business on this one that I did add is, uh, we do have to approve a purchasing card for Moren. Um, so if you guys are okay with that, um, yeah,

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>> then I can ask Robin to order. Yeah. Okay. >> So, I need a motion for that. >> Yes, please. >> Make a motion to get Moren purchasing cart. >> I will second that. >> Motion and a second. All those in favor?

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>> I vote. All right. >> Um, all right. So, this next updates, I will just start with welcoming Rob Brown to the commission. Um, and also thank

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James Kennedy for contesting a race, giving us a good contested race for the commission, which is a nice kind of change of pace. Um I'll in just a minute give Rob a chance to introduce himself but uh there's

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other things here today. >> Um Consom is continuing to talk about >> docs. >> Yeah, >> I did have a brief discussion with Chase. Um so they're still pondering

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what they're going to do. >> They make a nutty headway. They're making some headway. Their next step, I believe, is to have a meeting slightly uh because there are both

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cons parcels and town parcels that are effective and they want to uniform policy. So, >> but uh but more to come there. Um,

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that was one. Um, there was mention at the select board meeting last night about I think about the um the wheel beach wheelchair. >> Oh, >> and just access maybe.

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>> Yes, I I can follow up. Yeah, there was there was a comment from Amy Tarlo Lewis uh on the record. I followed up with her as she was leaving for the evening and the statements that she made, you know,

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were accurate, but I learned that they were uh taking place four to five years ago. So >> what she saying again? >> Uh essentially what I recall >> um difficult to hear but what I recall

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was that arrangements for a wheelchair are so incredibly important for somebody that needs access. >> Yeah. and that it was a very difficult experience, one that did not go well and

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that um and that had taken place. And just emphasizing how everything rotates around when you're with a loved one, family member, etc. that the arrangements and then if things don't go well, then your day doesn't go as well.

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That's how I recall. So, so then because of the Sproul I followed up with her and you know just wanted can we talk with you more but I will also say that when I heard the event had taken place four to

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five years ago from my standpoint so many things and practices and approaches could have changed at that period of time that while we can certainly follow up with her for the exactness maybe it's more my opinion just a perspective of

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well you know is the two of you know consider the beach operations just review what is the protocol with regard to somebody arranging for the the wheelchair accessibility and and just carry it on carry it on from there because honestly something that happened

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four to five years ago whatever the sequence was it's more important I think to be a forward-looking perspective with regard to how we how we make ourselves available to you know people who need that you know >> I would definitely like to follow up and get more information because this is the

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first that I've heard of that >> so that was aiming to target the Omega way >> and the gist of it was just that let's figure out a way to make it easy for people to know whether or not the wheelchair is going to be available when you're there

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or reserve something so >> it's always been yeah if somebody shows up and it's already in use just >> Okay. >> Um and I don't know if there like is there support people that are needed for it or is it

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>> So typically it would be um I mean you need to have someone that's there with you. Yeah. Um, so it's honestly, yes, we would have staff that could help get the person into the wheelchair, but once you're into the wheelchair and into the

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water, it's relatively, you know, easy process. Um, but yes, you should still have somebody out there with making sure that it's a >> Yeah. >> transparent process. >> Yes. Okay, that's fine. Um,

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anything else that's that's it for now in terms of so let you introduce yourself and >> yeah so glad to be here. strange to not be sitting out there sitting here. I'll I'll admit to that. Certainly look

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forward to working with all of you with regard to, you know, the the next three years, etc. Um I I live very close to Long Lake, so that primarily has been my way of speaking with the park and

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recreation commission uh in the past because of that. But I've expanded over the years to increasingly understand different aspects of uh park and wreck and you know from for me um

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absolutely critical um to maintain the phenomenal programs that park and recreation has. Uh it's it's routinely identified by anybody in our community. It's identified by professionals that look on and recognize and evaluate you

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know the operation. So um while I recognize that I've often been here asking for this or that and I also recognize in me that I am a uh direct walker and sometimes that can push

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people away. I will try to curb such actions uh in light of my now being a commissioner and and want to reach out to everybody that supported me to James Kennedy. I I really I love the welcome packet that Alicia that you sent me

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yesterday. I love the the eyes and ears and so forth, the community ambassador. So I I really um public bring it. You know, all of us are here to do that same thing. I know you all do it. Just happy to join you in that

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effort. >> Thank you. >> Congratulations. Yeah. Welcome aboard. Uh nothing for me today. Norm um we had a meeting today on baseball field. So we need to um so

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that's the planning. The meeting today was for the planning for Shaker Lane replacement. But we also at the same time we need to start putting together a plan for uh inter. >> Yes. >> Y >> um

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>> Dave had emailed and would like to meet on Thursday. So, I don't know. We can talk after, so I don't know if that's something that >> um >> was schools involved in that. >> So, today it just seemed to be you, me,

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and Dade. >> I think there were other people that were on the meeting, but I didn't didn't really know who was there. >> So, yeah, I think it was just the three of us that really spoke during that meeting. Um, so I don't know if there was school representatives there, but

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>> yeah. >> Um, I would imagine so. >> Yeah. >> Was this the one with Mary the University? >> Yeah. >> Um, I did mention it to the AD when we were talking about the interm stuff. So, >> yeah. >> Um,

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but, um, yeah, we can follow up on getting that meeting >> um, scheduled. Yeah. >> And that I had a couple um castle in the trees. >> Yeah. >> The protective padding on the poles. Did that >> I need to get that out there. Yep.

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>> Okay. >> Yep. >> That um >> we took it off because we did the um resurface and then it was >> cold that. So yeah, we need to get out there and restore that. A couple of the bear league basketball players almost

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get shoulders taken out. >> Little too aggressive for their age. >> Did you hear that? >> Per league basketball. >> Um and then they also mention the entrance to the what is that circle

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thing? What's it called? >> It's the gaga pit. >> Gaga pit. So apparently the entrance to it, sand runs out of it when it rains and onto the basketball court. >> Well, that's not great. Okay. >> So I was if maybe we could if that is

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that just panel. >> Yeah. So I'll talk to Highway. So when we first put it in, the idea was to put down stone dust and then compact it down. >> Um and so I know that Highway was going to put more stone dust. So it shouldn't be sand >> or stone dust. What if something's

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running when it rains or maybe it's just moving when >> replacing one of those panels >> didn't Yeah. compact it down enough but allow >> just switch it so that the >> rain doesn't run when the rain runs out it doesn't go onto the court. >> You got it. >> Those are the two.

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>> Um I think that's all I got. All I got the observation. I don't know if there's a way to get a little less sand on the softball field, a little more clay. >> Oh, yeah.

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>> It was uh Tuesday last week was a >> messy >> dust storm. >> Oh, yeah. >> It was uh I mean, they were having to stop playing periodically because it was so dust. I mean, it was it was extraordinarily windy, but it was,

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>> you know, the uh all of the fans were covered in a fine layer of dust, >> so it's it's a bit loose out there. >> Okay, I will pass that on to them. >> That was re That's

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>> Yeah, when it first went down, there was too much clay in it and it was hard, >> right? >> And now it's a little too soft. find balance. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Goldie locks it. >> Goldie locks it. >> And actually particularly actually the the battery boxes and the pinching mound.

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>> Yeah. >> Are really soft and end up with deep divots after >> a few guys. >> So probably half of the fill of like elsewhere. >> No, because it gets the right back in.

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>> Okay. Um, okay. Norm. Okay. >> All right. So, for those who were at town meeting,

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the or not at town meeting, the CPC, all of our items we brought to meeting were passed. So, one thing of interest for us because it's by Castle Elementary, there's going

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to be boardwalks by Castle Elementary, uh, I heard Chase Gerbig say that obviously we'll have to go through permitting and whatnot for the wetlands back yet, but that did pass. We voted to support it as a town. So, that's great.

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I saw Sean Ahern, who's on school committee, he is still keen to meet with us. So when we talk about positions, if there's anyone else who wants to be a school board and school committee liaison or if it's still me, he really

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would love to grab a cup of coffee and chat. And then from the mom's page, >> the touch a truck. Yeah. >> Like there was chatter about >> So what's this? >> We're not going to run a truck. Did we

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advertise that we're not? Because I think that would be good. >> We haven't advertised that we are. >> So I think people just assume because it's a thing we should put out there that we are not. >> Okay. >> It's the same thing. I know it's May,

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but people >> I know when PTA for Littleton Middle School was thinking about events in October, >> they they were like, "Oh, so what are your big events in October?" So, if we know October Fest and whatnot, it would

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behoove us to get those on a calendar so it's visible for people to see. >> And um Oh, there was something else that just about keeping our website current with some of this stuff so it's easy for

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people to find. Oh, was pickle ball because people were asking about where can I go play pickle ball? Are the Nets there? Okay. And I think if we had our website current, we could train people at least say it's on our website and you can check it out instead of

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trying to find it and notes and whatnot. I think we can just do a better job with alerting our town lovely town of what's available and how to get access to it. And if I think like to that if it's

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we're planning to bring it back, but stay tuned or just something to >> Yeah, because that's kind of where we are with um >> taking a year off or something. >> Well, we kind of did because obviously we were building courts, but um the um we're looking at implementing the new

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software. Um that would be something that's going to be one of the first things that's on there is being able to like you can reserve ports through that. Okay, that would be good. Okay, that hopefully would alleviate some

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confusion and community. Okay, thank you. All right. Uh, good. Acceptance of the minutes. April 15th minutes. >> Do we have any questions? >> Look good.

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>> Good to meet you. >> I'll make a motion to accept the for the April 15th, 2026 minutes. >> Second motion and a second to accept the minutes from April 15th. All in favor? >> I

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vote. >> All right. Now, now the fun stuff. Um, >> Judy, would you mind closing the participants piece so we can make the screen a little bigger so you

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all right there? All right, so the big one and everybody seems to do this a little differently. Um, I'm going to suggest just for convenience and smoothness that we make

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these effective at the end of the meeting. >> Sounds good. >> Rather than rather than doing the the mid meeting shuffle. >> Yeah. Um but uh so I have been chair I think for

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two years now and would be happy to take a step back and let somebody else try on the role for a period of time um and then we can sort through the rest from there. So I am willing to give it a

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go. >> Anybody else want to take leap forward and step back? >> Thank you, Kate. >> Um I guess we can we can run through these and then

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vote on the slate that that's up. Um >> but just so you know the because we only do this once a year. Um you someone has to nominate the person. >> Yes. >> There has to be a second and then >> I'd like to nominate Kate um for the

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chair position. >> Second. >> All right. Nomination and a second to appoint Kate as chair. All in favor? >> I. Any oppose?

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Okay. Again, you have um he is currently our vice chair. So, I as well have been doing it for two years. Um and I am open to doing it again for a

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third year. Um unless someone else um wants to jump in, be enthused about it. I make a motion >> for Pete to continue as the vice chair. >> I would second that. >> There we go. Motion or nomination in a

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second. All those in favor? >> I thank you. And I I you know I think that's uh >> we'll help with continuity. >> Continuity. Um I think that there is probably so we have not had and this

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maybe falls into discussion later but we have not had any formal structure around sort of progression or roles or durations or term limits but >> um yeah two years if if there's an offset between the chair and the vice chair is

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probably a a good cycle. So >> yes, >> obviously you'll be here for a year and you can decide then what you want to do next. And >> but I think you know my my experience has been that the

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the first year was a a fairly hefty learning curve and the second year was a little more productive and so but I said to Saul though he he goes to like every town meeting probably you and Rob. Exactly. Exactly.

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>> So I big shoes to >> and I have mentioned that that that is not uh not necessarily a role in the chair. So >> we can tag team, >> right? You can tag team and and I'm sure

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Rob and I will continue going do the reporting. We can report back on this. So Okay. Um, so school committee leaison currently Kate.

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>> Yep, I'm in that role, but it seems like Rob, I would gladly. >> Yeah, I' I'd like to I I've been here before talking about trying to get park with school, etc. And I'd love to participate that role if nobody else is

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wanting the door. >> I nominate Rob for school committee leism. I'll second nomination a second. All those in favor I >> connect with Sean here. >> I'll tell him. >> Uh, all right. I can sign her. I'll keep

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that one. >> You got to come in and do it though. Um, okay. Yep. All right. Um, community preservation. I guess we don't need to if we're keeping people.

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>> Yeah. >> Uh, community preservation committee currently caked. >> Happy to stay with it unless somebody else wants to >> go to those meetings. From my standpoint, I'd be happy to fill

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in for you as is backup only. I routinely attend those, but but I think continuity there is very important with regard to processing the the ongoing requests. So, I I'd love for you to stay there, but yeah, I would routinely

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attend that one more than a saw. The first year is kind of like >> we give money away already. That's a change in my life. I mean, my own life. I give it to my child, but

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>> All right. Um yeah, actually that was one one item that was on the um warrant was the irrigation for Whitcom.

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>> Yeah, it was in the in DPW's capital. >> Um >> I missed that. I think everybody missed it because that is a um >> it's a big project. >> It is a big project and should be a CPC eligible project. >> Yeah.

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>> But it was not not done under CPC. So >> Oh my. >> Yeah. Uh I missed it until too close to the meeting to make an adjustment, but uh so I did mention it to uh

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Steve Allen that future irrigation projects should should go through CPC. So >> Wow. Okay. >> And I don't know what their schedule is or any of that stuff. Okay. Uh, moving on. Sports council.

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Uh, Norm is there and we probably need another member. So, let me This is where I don't know. I from a school is on. I'm thinking fields might provide me as backup to you to

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have some insight and ongoing communication with regard to needs. But I throw that off to the rest of you because you have better perspective and handle on this. I was just trying to see align that with knowing Kevin's not here. But that's, you know, I'd certainly look for you to be the lead

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and bring me along. And >> yeah, the first thing we need to do is get them reenacted. So get it back together. And so all right, I think that seemed reasonable. >> Yeah.

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So, we don't need to make a motion for Norm, but we need to make a motion for Rob. So, I will make a motion that Rob becomes one of our sports council representatives. >> I'll second motion and a second. All

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those in favor? >> I I >> The next one's kind of moot because >> Yeah, it's been awful quiet on the PMPC front. Yeah, we don't have any projects right now that would require us to be there. So

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>> I I I don't know. You could just to have somebody that has that title, but >> at the end of the day, I don't think there's anything coming along to that we're going to meet, >> right? >> And board. >> Yes. And I don't

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I think the next one also, as far as I'm aware, there is not any >> there's no activity now, but There should be at some point like a midyear, not like a midway review of like how things are going. Um, this was

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done in the past. I mean, they probably should be >> more often than midyear, but I >> I don't know who else is even on that committee at this point. And >> yeah, so

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>> yeah, I don't change. I think that's really probably needs to go back to the select board um to reconstitute that committee and pick them off again. >> Yeah. Why don't you keep my name on it

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and uh we'll see about how we reinvigorate it. >> Yep. >> Like has it turned into something else? >> What's that? >> Has it turned into something else to like talk with the NBC? No. Uh, open space. >> Oh.

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>> Oh. Oh, no. We were talking BNBC. Yeah. >> Oh, >> no. We were talking space. >> Um, then with the implementation committee, you are 100% correct. That is >> had been debunked. >> Yeah. >> For a while and it needs to be active

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because we just finished it. >> Right. So, we we and that's what I was thinking needs to be reinvigorated. >> Yes. But that probably there's always opportunity for other open space things out there. So yeah, so we'll keep Peton and

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>> Okay. >> probably have a discussion with the select board about giving that a little kick or maybe because we're going to I think we at some point soon we'll have a some meetings with Conscom about >> the

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waterfront down there. So that'll be we can maybe have another topic because it's really in there a lot of that stuff is in there house or more than ours but >> and then our representative to the friends. So um

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in discussions and during the election season >> um did come up the sort of advisory committee u so I will reach out to James again and see if there's an appetite

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there to >> like it doesn't have to have someone on the board do it. It's just something internally like we can't we can't >> No. Right. I think it's it's actually I think if you look at all of the other ones the the commission really is not >> correct

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>> part of it. So we need somebody outside >> y >> of the commission to to >> spearhead >> spearhead that >> and then the commission member just attends meetings like correct friends of Ruben Horn Library or something. >> Exactly.

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It was still on. So that's >> if that comes about we can fill that le >> it. >> Yep. >> Okay. So now you think you're gigant >> I mean you've already made the you have

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done the nominations of the seconds. >> Oh, sorry. I think we've already Oh. So who I'm so sorry. They're all um >> Well, you guys Oh, I guess you did. >> Yeah, we did. >> Okay. All right. Never mind.

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>> For some reason, I thought we were going to do them as a >> I knew have everybody's name. So, >> Yep. >> So, this is an interesting one. >> This is an interesting one. So, um

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my So, I kind of pulled this together um thinking that we could use a little more um structure and involvement just to to support the staff a little better. Um and

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but there was some discussion with the town clerk. U so there's sort of a couple of paths we can go down here I think and you were on those two so tell me if I misread this. um

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if we actually set up subcommittees those actually become public bodies and even if there are I think even if there are only two of us we still have to post them and >> schedule them and provide minutes and

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and that sort of thing. Um, so that's one pathway. I think the um the school board may do that with some of theirs. Um, you'll see them posted in the middle of the day for like a

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>> policy meeting or >> um different things. So, some groups do that. That's an option. Um the other would be not to make them committees and just assign

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sort of a task to people and then it just becomes a task that you're doing >> and and I to discuss with Tom Pory and she separated those two with if you don't call it a subcommittee but just

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task two two of your members with a task They are not then bound by open meeting law. So let's my preference would be to avoid the subcommittee bureaucracy and just pass ourselves and do the same

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work. >> Um yeah so that those are kind of the options. I think I I tend to agree that at least for the the first goound it probably makes more sense not to create them any they're

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At some point there is some value in that sort of structure and rigor of actually having to post a meeting because it gives you a little more impetus that if we say okay we're going to meet once a month and people still actually post a meeting. Um otherwise

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these things can get a little slippery but um hopefully we can just commit to it and we won't. Um, I'm gonna Well, did I

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do we have the No. So, okay. Um so on the director's uh supervision right now we have myself and Pete um with theou um

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working with the the TA to to do that. Um, I did send out the the four options uh of how we can supervise you that are available in the town. Um, I don't think

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>> the employee handbook thing. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, I don't think we actually need to make this decision. Now, what I what I I'm thinking on this one is that we'll make this a fiscal year term because that's the term of the review. So,

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>> that makes sense. Yeah. Pete and I will stay on until the end of the fiscal year. >> Okay. I was like, does >> Yeah, it's >> because then election >> you guys are here, so let's we can do that now. Let's do that now. That will be a we need to figure out,

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>> right? If if somebody leaves after that, then maybe there's only one of us for that period of time or you pull the next person in or I don't know. But >> yeah, who's up for next May? Is that you and Pete? Uh, >> we hope so. Yeah.

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start your campaign now. >> I don't know. Two two terms. I you know >> two plus terms like >> you're competitive. You can try to be a brilliant US for a long time. >> Yeah. And I I think Mark Mark has set the bar in town and I'm not going to try

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and get anywhere near that soon with that. Um so anyway uh yes so back to that. So I think you know I think that makes sense probably um maybe at the next meeting we can review

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those four options and decide if we want to go ahead with the same path we're on now. Um and I think you know it would be for for next year it would be Kate and either probably either Peter or myself just for continuity. >> Yes. Um

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yeah. Uh so this was you know I think we've we've talked about there are a number of policies that we need uh like to either create or you know just to go through and review update. There's plenty

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>> collate put in one place and uh I think it would be helpful for the staff if we had a couple a couple of us there >> once or twice a month just to get their

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>> you know troubleshoot or triage what's >> it'll be super helpful because I feel like you know we we get to talk about these things once a month for you know a couple hours back and um you know we get

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to a point usually in those meetings where it's like oh we need more information where you know we got to take it back to council or um so I think if we were able to do something like this we would be able to expediate that process a bit more y >> um so I think it would be really helpful

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for the department to have that. >> Yeah. So yeah that's one of the high priorities is the the policy revolving fund. Um, I did put out a draft a few meetings ago. >> Yeah. >> Uh, I sent that over to Steve

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just to see if he had any feedback. Then we can if it's relatively complete complete, we can look at it again and >> yeah, >> pin down the specific numbers and those sorts of things. But uh so on the policy side, I'm happy to

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jump in on that since I guess I've been trying to push it. >> Yeah. Is there anybody else who would like to join me in that pray? I'd certainly be happy to, but I the

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elephant in the room is I ran on aspects of number two and number three. So I' I suspect that I may not be in alignment at the present time. So I don't want to take a position that potentially,

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you know, is out of sort. I hope to merge and come together because I've got a lot to understand. But I, you know, I don't want to ignore the fact that um and two and three have been pretty involved from the outside. Um and and so coming on the

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inside I'm not certain that being one and two makes sense but that is also >> well and again these will be you know largely this would be we'll look at what's there what needs to be there draft something and then bring it to the bring it to a meeting and then hash it

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out a little further. So >> so that is to say I have interest but I don't want to preclude anyone and I'd love to have if somebody else wants wants it I want I really am open to waiting until it

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comes back. I I took a lot of wood shop. I didn't take a lot of English. I can help. You want to help on the policy? >> Yeah. >> Okay. that Norman Norman and myself on

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policy and then on finance Rob you sound like you want to jump in there and >> happy to do it again don't want to preclude anybody if something else has interest like you've got a lot of passion for it

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>> I think it it would be nice to have somebody else with him so anybody Come on. Oh, that is my job. >> All right. >> The Excel math. >> Yeah. Right. So, Robin Norm for that.

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>> You have any tape on this or >> I don't think we do. >> You're signing task. >> We're just Yeah, we're we're giving ourselves homework. >> All right. >> Okay. >> You want to preface this one? Which one

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is this? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, um yes. So, Alicia provided a a lovely packet of um various plan goals and and other things. Um the the thought that I've had u since

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I've seen other boards do it and I think it makes sense is that um we pick a time outside of our our regular meeting and spend you know two or three hours kind of going through u

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high level goals and and getting some alignment pickings priorities u in a little less little less formal. Still has to be an open meeting and still we record some some minutes but um probably won't

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record or televise it just be a little little more relaxed. >> Yeah. >> And you'd go through everything so that if you want to skip ahead that's new business and pick a time to

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do that. Just to clarify with folks um and for folks that are in the audience um I wanted to simplify the PowerPoint. So all the PowerPoint is showing is the goals for town master plan and then the other is for the open space and

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recreation plan. Um the packets which will be included in the minutes um go through and list every single goal that parks and recreation or um the park um and rec commission was assigned to be a

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part of the um it doesn't mean that th those goals are uh specifically and only solely assigned to us. Um so in the um open space and recreation plan and the

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um town master plan usually it'll say these schools are assigned to and it'll have like parks parks and wreck and conservation and highway that the three of these groups are going to work on this goal together. Um, but any um any

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one of those goals um that would had our name listed on it, I made sure to add each of those into the packet so you can review all of those um in one location rather than me giving you huge copies of

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the giant open space and recreation plan and the town master plan. But I do have the full ones in my office if anybody wants them. Um and I they also are available online um in digital form. So you can access those at

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clarify that. Um so you want me to jump to >> Yeah. When? Yeah. When is a corrective? When when is a good time for everybody? >> You want to complete this before the end

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of the fiscal year? >> Ideally. >> Okay. >> So, some sometime in May or June if we can. They're thinking a week a week night evening or a weekend morning or anything

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whatever works for people. I my schedule is relatively flexible but >> for me personally it would have to be a week a night >> weekend to night. >> I mean a night time not like a a weekday

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weekday work day. >> Yes. Okay. >> Okay. I think during the work week at night it could that could work. >> Okay. >> Yes. Um not during the work day. >> No that will not be possible.

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>> My weekends are pretty much booked up so a week night is good for me. >> Yeah. that how quickly do we want to try and get this together? Yes, >> not this week.

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>> Yeah, >> sorry. This week is we got all staff training on Friday or sorry Thursday and then we're putting the doc tomorrow morning. So >> yeah. Okay. Um, >> 20 seconds.

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>> I think it's >> I was going to suggest the first week of first week of June to try and get it in before the next meeting. >> Okay. Yeah. So, it's meeting the nine. >> Yeah. I I would also recommend that maybe we

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try a a little different venue to try to >> have a little change of pace, >> right? >> I mean, we could do it at 36 G Street, which I don't think we've really spent a whole lot of time there. That would be nice. >> Yeah.

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>> My son's girlfriend is graduating first week of June. Don't know what I'm gonna have to go to, >> but you will be there. >> But it's the only the first week of June is graduation stuff for everybody. But that's okay. But if I'm the only one

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that's impact, >> would that be like >> I have no idea when anything Well, like awards night and stuff. Um, so schedule it and then I'll deal with it.

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>> Are we Yeah. All right. Do you know Do you know when? >> I have no idea when anything is. >> Oh, no. When will you Will you know when you will know? That's the >> Oh, I can ask when I get >> Okay. Um All right. Let's So, just schedule something and then I'll deal with it. >> Right.

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>> How about like the second or third Tuesday or Wednesday have two potential dates. >> Yeah. See, there's something on the school calendar. So, we will be in competition with RAD at the building.

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Um, >> I assume they're in the auditorium. >> They'll be in auditori. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, what time do we want to do that then? >> Earlier start at six or six.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Set up. Okay. So, do we pick an exact date or are we just saying the second or third? Not when you can get

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>> like Oh, and what do you need though? What do you need for that? Okay. Yeah. >> I mean, no, we don't. >> Well, actually, no. Yes, because you said we're not going to record it. So, typically the retreats are recorded. Okay. But they are open for the public. So, if somebody physically wanted to,

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you know, come and sit in, >> need to post anything, >> they're welcome to, but typically it's um I I always can I always call it like a fishbowl, right? Because everybody um that's on the committee is the ones that are, you know, talking, doing the work,

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and then, you know, the public can just kind of like watch the fishbowl. So, um yeah. Yeah, we may we may throw down just a laptop or a phone in minutes. >> Yeah,

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I I don't know. >> Um >> Okay. >> So, do we have a second or third? >> Second or third or Oh, so I have Wednesday, June 3rd at 6 p.m. Okay, >> we'll give that a shot and then if Norm comes back and tell us tells us that

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that doesn't work. >> Yeah. Yeah, try to pick one. >> Okay. >> Um, we do, this is later on in um the meeting in the director's update, but we do uh have a training that we have to go to in Watertown for Rec Technology.

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Correct. >> Um, and it will be on that day. It's going to be 1 to 5:00 p.m. So, we will have to, you know, drag back. >> We have to make sure we leave at 5 and we're not going to make it back for six. We should be able to. I think so.

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>> You don't think so? >> Not on a Tuesday night. >> Water. >> Oh, Wednesday. Wednesday's better. >> Does it? >> Yeah. Thursday's a terrible terrible driving. >> Well, that makes sense. Yeah. Thursday. Wednesday. That's the

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>> I'm good. 27th and 20. Is the >> Do you have is the training on Tuesday and Wednesday or >> No, it is just on Wednesday. No, >> that would be Tuesday. a second. >> Yeah, that makes your life easier so you're not stressed.

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>> I don't think I'd be stressed. >> I think you you'll be fighting traffic. >> Guarantee you'll be cursing us. >> Sorry. Okay. >> All right. >> I will send out a calendar invite and um we will get a we can post it now. since

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we're not going to do off online. So, I'll just get that out. >> This was my again I think this is goals that we can cover that day as well. So, the two things you had on there were for commission and department. Um, I have,

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you know, the things that I've been working on this year just as a, you know, that helps to have >> y >> that information there. But, so I guess we can skip the house. >> Okay. >> Um, so just reviewing Kate talked about

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a little bit of this um the, uh, rundown from annual town meeting. Um, so these are just articles that affected our departments. Um so article three which was operating budgets that was approved. Um article five which was revolving

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funds was approved. Um article 18 which is the class and compensation plan. Um originally I think when we first started out we thought it was just going to be C and C1. Um but I think HR pulled everything together and was able to do A

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and B. So, um, all of the, um, schedules have gone through were approved. Um, and then title 25, this was a revolving fund bylaw amendments. Um, so, yes, I'll be working with Robin to figure this out,

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but, um, the director, so I have to make reports on respective doing the detailed statements and all of receipts, expenditures, and liabilities for the preceding financial year. Um, I'm guessing that will go into the annual

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budget report. So, I will work with Robin and we'll figure out what that looks like. Um, >> yeah. >> Um, yeah, just one of the from the select board meeting last night the schedules.

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Um, >> they did add the seasonal employee definition to the >> Oh, they >> Yes. Um, >> I was talking about that. >> It's still it's it's only a definition right now, but when you then dig into MGL, it

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it >> is it helpful or not? >> It is. >> Okay. >> Yay. >> There was a time there was a bit of lack of clarity as to whether seasonal employees were eligible for health care

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and other things and they are not. Um so they are required to pay into the >> OPED >> the OPE but they are not eligible for healthcare and other things. >> It's not the clearest thing yet but it

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does >> I'll follow. >> Yeah. All right. >> Select working last night. Okay. >> Um director update um finance update. Trash update. feel like parks and wreck trash update

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um beach information session and um evaluation. I guess we don't really have to cover that since we sort of talked about that, but we can schedule >> we we've been there. I've had some learning discussion and so we'll there'll be something on schedule for next week.

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>> Okay. Um so we're almost at the end of the fiscal year. Um, so I just wanted to do like a snapshot of where we are right now. Um, so at um, the June meeting, we'll kind of look at the almost complete year because there's still

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obviously two more month or sorry, two more weeks in that full year. Typically, we don't get the actual um, like full understanding until July, but we'll go through some of those things. Um but where we are right now

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with actuals um so the overall revenue is uh 938,000. Um the actual wages to date is 635. Um and actual expense to date is 318.

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Um so currently right now we are at a negative of 15,08 which is pretty close. Um, and we also have to calculate in there is a grant that we received from

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United Way um for $15,000. So, right now, we're pretty close to, you know, even which is pretty awesome. Um, and are we >> in terms of like the major summer

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programs, is that revenue already in or is there still? >> So, that was one of the things that's one of the things I'll do in June because I feel like what I have to figure out is there is about what is it? I think it's like 300

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340,000 that technically is flagged for next year, but then we have to go back and look at what was brought in from last year. Does that make sense? >> Okay. >> So, that will help. I know. I know.

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>> Um but that will um help. >> But I I guess I was more asking. So, okay. So, yeah. What are other revenue opportunities between now and June 30th? >> Let's see. Um, we still have the club

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that is going on and preschool as well. >> Yeah. >> Additional summer camp signups, right? >> But that's if you So, this is where we get into the like split being awful for fiscal year. So technically if it is um

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summer camp, beach um teen adventures. >> So >> well that would be beach. >> Okay. >> Um so I think there's another one that I'm missing for some reason. But those three all of the revenue for that is technically for next fiscal year, right?

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because we're because those programs run and the way Robin and I have kind of decided that we're going to do the split is so technically with camp T you have the first week of camp T and maybe like the first two days is technically in

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fiscal year 26, right? >> And then the rest of it's in fiscal year 27. >> Okay. >> So she and I we you can get into the weeds about all that stuff. So, we just made a decision that all of Camp Te, all

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of beach, all of um Teen Adventures is just going to be considered for us to be able to look at things more clearly. So, that's all just going to be considered next fiscal year, >> even though some of that money's brought in on January.

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>> Yeah. So, that's why I said um well, all of that money is brought in in January. >> Yeah. The majority. What what we do have to split is preschool because there's a preschool program that's happening year round now. Um and then we also have

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preschool that happens in the summer. So we're collecting revenue for both. So those we're splitting. Um so when we're doing our turnovers, we're determining what goes into what bucket. We created new accounts for that. Um

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so let's see. um Leap the Littleton uh enrichment after school programs. There are programs that are still going on right now. So that would be like uh Shaper Lane and Russell Street. There's programs that happen after school. Um and there's some like on weekends as

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well. So anything that is in spring we're keeping on this fiscal year and anything that is summer we're going to keep that on next fiscal year. And then sports camps is the same thing. there's stuff that's here in spring, stays in

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spring. If it's summer, stay in summer. So, we that was one of the changes that um you know, we worked with the finance department to try to help make it less confusing because obviously, you know, that money does go into the next fiscal

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year. So, um, that's why I want to look at what came in from last year because that's really kind of our real budget is the chunk that came in from January to

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June 30th the previous year is also part of the revenue for this year. So the 938 that we're seeing right there, >> that's just what we brought in this year, >> July July.

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>> This is everything. So this is through now. >> What you just said goes over into the next year. >> And then um >> sorry, hang on. That >> sorry >> that does include what is it going into next year? >> Correct. >> Okay. That's why I said I want to do for

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June to go through all of those calculations and I I want to work with Robin so that we can come up with a clear way to express it because I do feel like it is really challenging to do. >> Yeah, I I think that I mean I

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this will be a great task for you guys to sit down with them and Robin. Um I my impression of when we when we had this discussion previously was >> that we wanted to be able to look at

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the programs on a >> Yep. >> on a program basis. >> Yep. >> And that's why we needed something that carried over between the fiscal years. Yes. >> But that in terms of the actual budget, we're still tied to the

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fiscal years. So because the money that is >> kind of like and that's the thing, right? If you just run the numbers for what this fiscal year is and then you look at a report for the programs individually, they're going to be completely different.

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>> Yeah. And that's I mean I think that's okay. So that's where you know that's part of you know as we go through this process we have to I guess everyone needs to agree upon what are we actually looking at >> right >> and that was one of the things like I

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sat down with Robin and and you know we had to come up with that agreement of all right summer programs doesn't matter if a piece of it's in June it's going to be next fiscal year if we don't have those

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black and white lines, we're never going to agree on anything. >> Yeah. I And I Right. I think I don't know. I Yeah, it it is a messy arrangement, but I

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I think the cleanest way to do it is just whatever you whatever you spend and bring in in a fiscal year gets booked to that fiscal year. And then when we look at the programs individually, we can look across the fiscal years

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because >> that makes sense on program basis but on the >> Yeah. So I think one of the other things so Jeff is just absolutely amazing with Excel documents. Um he he's actually

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done a couple of different tools for us which has been amazing. Um, so he's created this one tool where um, it's sort of similar to like what Steve and Nudi had before. Um, so we're able to dump in a whole bunch of data from

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to help make things clear. Yeah. I just want to throw the beach operation beginning before Memorial Day. That seems like an odd duck the way it's been described. Like, what do you mean?

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It's it basically runs like onethird maybe even more than a third in the current fiscal year as opposed to the next fiscal year. And if I heard you correctly, Robin's given council to just move it all into the next year. That

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strikes me as complicated. >> It's a complicated problem. >> Oh no, but complicated beyond complicated. I yeah I mean I think it strikes me as somewhat of a I respect everybody involved.

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>> My initial hearing of this just strikes me as that's a unique set of rules decisions that have been made to >> it's not a rule. It's not a policy. It's the um like we were talking about before we have to have a set

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>> Oh, I I agree. But, you know, I think what I heard Sal say is fiscal year is fiscal year and that seemingly should be able to do beach operations with memberships. Let's let me use that example runs from before Memorial Day to

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you can say Labor Day, but I would argue that the guards dropping out in the middle of August, that sort of thing. you almost have a significant chunk in before June 30th. So why would 100% of those revenues and

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expenses be moved the opposite year? That strikes me as odd. Uh having said that, >> I'm just hearing this for the first time. And so, you know, I welcome other people fan back or or to hear why that

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seems like certainly having rules and consistency. absolutely critical that it strikes me on >> um I mean I so the example with the beach memberships that is an easier one

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that we could do but when you're looking at something like camp to have and you have >> two days >> the week and the two days I that's >> and the challenge with that one though is that all the revenue comes in in one fiscal year and all the expenses go out in the next

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>> correct yeah I let me be clear I don't have an issue with regard to inconsequential thing of a couple of days with regard to camp and the complexity to try to be any specific day specific that's not worthy.

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Yeah. Beach operation may be worthy of a another chitchat. Yeah. >> So the wages we're looking at on this FY26 are the wages from last summer's camp.

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>> Correct. So that would be July 1st all the way through now. Right now >> a lot of wages just from last summer. The coordinators year round preschool camp. >> Yep. We've taken on

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>> um so the administrative assistant which is our office coordinator now was split 5050. Um but now we've taken that on fully. So all of the um benefits and um

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uh you know everything that comes with that the uh pension as well we paint all that right out of the programs >> there really there's not I mean but to point K was making like the the bulk of the revenue for this fiscal year

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is in is that accurate like most of the camp registration, summer program registrations, all those. >> Yeah. Um, so the like I said, we're waiting on um, so the grant is a reimburseable grant, so we're waiting to get the the check back for that. Um, we

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still do have preschool programs that will go through June. Um, we have after school programs, we have a club. Um there's we do programs on uh days that the schools are closed,

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>> but I mean those are all >> rough stickers. >> Speakers would would be a little one. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean but these those are all roughly break even. So >> we're not we're not expecting to see a >> title

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>> jump in the next month to >> to push that positive. I guess the >> the one thing you mentioned, the $340,000 figure. I just let go of that. That >> I I'm assuming camp T is the lion share of that.

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>> It is 340 >> and that would be fiscal year 27 revenue. >> Correct. >> Okay. So that's in addition to that 340 is in addition to this 938. >> That was No, it is not. So that I I wanted to make it very simple and

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literally I we've kind of gotten way deep down, >> okay, >> than I plan to get. Um but the um it literally what you see here numbers wise is actual what came in for revenue from July 1st through now, what we've

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actually paid in wages and what we actually paid in expenses. So with next month that is I'm going to come back and we're going to look at the money that was um shifted into

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from fiscal year 25 to 26 >> right that's going to cover that amount >> first let's just look at these numbers again for next month >> yeah that's fine like >> yeah no no adjustments just >> roll into the next month FY26

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>> yeah and And if we want to look at Yeah. what was if you I guess pull out the Yeah. If you want to pull out the I don't know how to do it. You're pulling out the expenses from

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summer last year and and pushing forward the revenue from this year. But I I don't I think I think that's that's a discussion worth having. I think that's a worth looking at on the program level. >> Yeah. >> But not on the overall budget budget.

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>> Yeah. >> Is my >> And we do keep track of the what we've expended per um not necessarily each program, but with our charter of accounts, we have um the

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budget groups for each of them. Right? So KMT is its own account line. um preschool even though there's multiple programs has its own catline all of those things. So we can look at it that way >> which is how we've looked at it. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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>> Can you remind me again uh for the United Way grant? What is that earmarked for? >> So that is for the club the after school program. >> Okay. >> Um so I have the majority. So we're we're getting a check

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for 14,000. Um, so there's still 1,000 left. Um, um, so we have completed, they have them in um, periods. So we've completed the third. There's still one

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left to go because the the grant essentially covers through June, the end of the school year. So yeah, so we should in turn get that full 15,000 unless we end up like I don't know we

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have only an invoice for like $839 then we get that and like you know we've been loded out on that extra amount. So yeah, um trash in parks. So, um this is a

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awesome update. Um so, Jim Jim has um had a conversation with Steve Yonley. Um so, we have a new agreement with DPW. Um so, our departments will

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pay um highway park staff for 90 minutes per day to pick up trash. So, it's about $70. Um, so we will end up we're starting with six days a week just because this is new. We're trying to figure out what schedule

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truly needs to be. Um, so we do have the trash cans that are out at 300 King Street right now and at Long Beach. Um, so we've worked with um, Highway to come up with a schedule. So essentially we want to include the shoulder seasons. That's something we've all talked about

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in here. Um, so in the future, um, there we just started now, but in the future we will do April through October, um, at 300 King Street. Um, and then at Long Lake Beach, we will do April through the last day of school that the highway

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department will do trash at the beach. And then, um, once our staff, uh, come online for full, you know, seven days a week, um, our staff will take care of the trash down at the beach. Um, so I'm estimating that that'll be like August

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23rd to usually around like when we don't have life birds anymore because they go back to school. Um, so I would say the last Monday in August through the last Thursday in October, um, we will have a highway go back on to

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take trash can. So, I mean, it's Yeah, we'll give it a go. We'll see how how it works. Um that's all. Yeah. So I'm excited about that. I think that's going to be helpful for us trying to stay on top of that. Um

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one thing policywise that we will have to talk tackle within our group is that um the parks are listed as pack it in pack it out. So essentially, we would have to change that ruling. Um or at least that's something that Highway is

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asking for um because that was kind of the reason that they didn't wait it right. So >> yeah. >> Has it started yet? Okay. >> And have we noticed any difference with

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the portaotties? >> It literally started on Monday. >> Okay. >> So I don't know the answer to that yet. >> Okay. Yeah. Oh, >> I will let you know. No worries. >> No pictures, please. >> I listen sometime picture says a thousand words.

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>> Amazing. What? >> Yeah. I mean, I think we we probably, you know, I think there's a there's a pack in pack out sign. >> There is. Um, so >> and I have a whole bunch out there right now just because we were having issues

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with people throwing all the trash into the port body. >> So, um, which that is for the individual who has to clean that out because they literally have to go in

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and clean that out by hand and then be able to pump. It is I >> It's awful. Um, so I really don't want that experience for him to continue. That's not acceptable. >> Uh, but so yeah, we should should change

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those things out and then probably, you know, I don't know what the phrasing is, but it's, you know, no, >> please don't clean out your car. >> I'm fine. Bring your own trash. >> You clean out your car, but not like >> dump no dumping. No household trash like

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that sort of whatever that >> Yeah. have languages. >> Yeah. >> Respect the park, >> right? Still >> the trash is there for while you're there, not

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to avoid the other trash costs and time. >> I mean, I think a majority of it that we see is it's because we're on a main route that people will just stop and clean out their cars. So, >> there's only so much trash in the car. I

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mean, I didn't realize it. >> So, apparently not. >> Well, not really. >> My 18-year-old daughter would would differ now. Um, but yeah, I mean, that's great. Thank you to to DPW and

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>> yeah, >> hopefully yeah, a >> an improvement for everybody. So very important. >> Um so one of the things um Jim had asked was uh for us to hold a beach

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information session. Um so essentially a back when Ryan was here, he wanted to have one of these. Um we haven't held them because they haven't been heavily attended. The last time we did

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it, we sent out hundreds of letters uh to households and we only have one person show up. So, um but he wants to try it. We'll try it again. Um >> now we have Rob. You can personally go visit their neighbors.

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>> Um >> they'll find him. I'm sure. Um, so, uh, Jim is out this week, but, um, I do want to book something so that we can advertise that and get that information out to folks. Um, I because

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I don't know what the weather is going to be. I think 36th Street's a good location for it. Um, and then you know the four days that we have that we can make it work would be May 25th 20. I

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think we talked Tuesdays and 26 may be the best for our schedule. Um, but I also did want to see you know as chair. I mean that's something that we would want you there for. Um Pete if you're available that would be great. Um

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Rob, if you are planning on attending, then we would have to make that a public >> meeting. Okay. >> Um so yeah, >> we just have to post it. No, it's just fine. We have time to do that. >> Preference would be to not on Monday

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said that to be select board and charter. >> That's Memorial Day. >> Okay. So Monday's no thank you. >> Which means the select board will be on the Tuesday. >> Correct. >> Correct. Thanks for keeping us true. You're a gem.

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>> Uh what's he want? Just to go over the offerings that we have. Does that >> It's more of just having an open communication. So um you know if people we in the past like the letter that we sent out gave um information on like

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these are the times at camp will be there. >> So be there these are the the camp kids will be there. Um just going over policies, rules, um hours of operation, um

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all that stuff. Um yeah. Um okay. Yeah. >> Something percolating there. >> Yeah. So, um, some of the things I think you've already said would be of great interest and like the trash update today

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that if people come that would have gotten a ton of attention. So, presenting that as this is already new actions anticipated for Castle and Trees and the Beach, that's really appropriate to let them know. Yeah. Other things

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that you know I think I've heard is that you're going with a extended hours one day a week or was that not done now? I don't think you did that. >> We haven't we we talked we talked about considering it. So if it's if possible we can find staff for that' be good. I

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mean it'd be good to >> get feedback >> get feedback and see if there's appetite for it. I could just offer up that >> earlier today and related to some some of the things you've talked about with regard to consom and the whole doc operation you know that that sort of

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stuff there has been discussion rather a good bit of discussion with regard to the concept that you had mentioned many months ago of having a community dock for personal usage that's gotten a lot of traction in the Hanscon meetings and

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so you know identifying as would or asking the question would you be interested that's um somebody who was on Goldman wrote a very very nice letter uh senior woman explaining how she would love to use

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exactly what you were talking about many months ago of a a a place for her watercraft to be located be commonly used. So again, I think putting like chum in the water, if you're familiar with that concept of floating out ideas to get feedback on.

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>> Yeah. >> Rather than just kind of the important but somewhat expected policies, that sort of thing and put in what would you like done differently, you know, that sort of thing. Uh I think that might generate more community interest in

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participating in the event and offering, you know, all of us feedback. I will clarify. So when we talk about an additional dock or storage of um personal equipment, that is something

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that would take place on conservation land. So that is something that I don't know is appropriate for that meeting um just because that is not something that we will be doing on the the beach property itself. Yeah, I think

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so. I'm interested in getting some information with regard to I think I saw in your budget report maybe five grand worth of watercraft rentals, that sort of stuff during the beach season. So, there are so many aspects that I speak

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with locals and now I realize that there are people from the consump discussions that are actually very much interested in non walking distance to having what you mentioned many months ago. So, as much

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as I understand you think I understand your point as to which property parcel it would be on, I would suggest taking the opportunity to gain feedback of concepts that you discussed before and then deal with the

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location of the parcels because I don't know where KCOM's going with that matter. What I do know is we have a set of watercraft that are rented out during the year. Personally, I question how

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often they're in the water versus up on the rack, but that's just my personal observation. >> Quite often, I would say, but >> and so gaining feedback as to interest in it, I think, could be beneficial. >> So, I guess I'm not fully following what

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is the interest in it. What is it? utilizing is I recall Sal maybe at least two meetings last year mentioning the idea of a uh a dock storage location where individuals could um place their

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boat for a fee or their watercraft not I think the the development there is u as consum has got more involved involved in this and also taken over as of the last the

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town meeting has taken over the the fund that we're providing for the lake support. Um really the re yeah we we were considering that essentially as a

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a service to clean lakes to provide them with some revenue was was my rationale and there were there were people in the public who who did you know we're looking for it. Um but cons is now more involved. they have

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their own pathway of collecting fees and and registrations and whatever else they want to do. I think for that anything on that property unless we start looking elsewhere uh we can leave them to

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>> Okay. I mean, I'm happy. I I think I think to your point while we're having an information session, take the feedback. We can also invite some members of KCOM to come join us and >> and hear whatever testly said.

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I just wanted to clarify that because I recently had a meeting with Tim Pearson. Um, and that was one of the things that we had talked about was, you know, how we could potentially help them set that up, but that was something that they were looking for at that piece of property. >> The other part that terms of an idea you

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might want to consider throwing out there is whatever the update is pertaining to the CPC funded fishing dock >> and the center dock. I think those offering that up as up and cominging

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attractions or whenever those are planned to be implemented, I think those are worthwhile to throw out as you know conversation starters and get people to come and express themselves. >> Yeah, it would be good to get those >> implemented soon.

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>> I know. Listen, I >> I don't >> you can come in and help me out any >> if need be >> because we're needing some I don't know you and I briefly spoke the other day as a kind of like an addition to the welcome packet the long life restoration

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kiosk I think Steve's is is it really happening the docs are going in tomorrow because yeah that's the time then >> that equipment is there that could theoretically remove that. >> We are we are going to and I mean it's one of those situations where it it's

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not our equipment. It is something that does belong to Long Lake Neighborhood Association but we well we have talked to them and no one has agreed so we are going to just throw it out. >> Good. >> Um so that's that's a great solution.

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Good. >> Awesome. Uh, we did not come up with a date for this though. >> Oh, right. >> Not Monday or Tuesday. >> Does Wednesday or Thursday work? >> Sounds like that's graduation

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activities, right? >> No, that's the week after. >> Wednesday is better. May 27th. an open home graduation that so if we have a preschool open house

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that's happening that night. Um but that would be better because we have camp tea open house the Thursday night. So I would say with then it has to be Wednesday. So there will probably be less vote for

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pending a school open household. >> Okay. So at least 27 >> I ask how will the how will the public be informed of this? >> Um so we will I have to figure out timeline what we can do. Um, in the past

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for folks that live in the area, we've sent out letters. So, if I'm able to do that within a timely aspect, I will do that. Um, typically we will put it up on the town website. We'll have it out on social media. Um,

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and we will do like flyers that are out at the beach as well. So, um, uh, and town website. I don't know that I would letter to the neighborhood. >> It's it's a >> it's a lot a lot of effort.

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>> It is a lot of effort. >> Pretty limited. >> Maybe maybe connected with you're accepting memberships right now. Correct. >> We are. Y >> maybe just you know connected to that that you know notify anybody that's got

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already purchased a membership. as they come in because between now and then >> should get a good bit of activity. >> I think it would be good to if on the social channel put a little notice each >> Oh, we would do that. Yep. Absolutely. Yep.

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>> Yeah. >> You could share on the >> Exactly. I could easily just boom it over >> flyers on the the boards down there and that sort of thing. What time is like six o'clock?

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>> What time? What time? Um, if you want to do six o'clock, when you do that, >> um, we So, I mean, I think Kel is probably going to run the open house on her own. So, I don't think that we need

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to be there. We do all need to be there for Camp T. Um, so I think that they should be fine on their own for that one. So I think that we could be there for that. >> Yeah.

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>> I guess I'd like to throw out because it's at 36 King Street, there will be people, this is kind of an odd thing. I think there will be people on that Wednesday the 27th at the beach that aren't going to give up the beach in order to come to the information

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session. Um, >> we also don't know what the weather's going to be. >> No, no. But the point I'm the point I want to make is that that's a kind of an odd situation to have. Uh, but maybe consider identifying a second info

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session. Um, and starting to start to communicate that, you know, for uh a follow-up session that can advance, you know, the the feedback that you get from the 27. um put it, you know, limit it to an hour

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or something. But but >> I think the more feedback that you get, the better off we're all going to be. >> I mean, later better. >> Not to put you guys in all night, but

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>> well, just to clarify, right now we are onboarding 90 seasonal staff. We are going through training with all of them. We're running regular office hours. We're running programs. We like our my

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staff is like at the limit of what they can do right now. >> Or do I mean or do we what's the I guess that is right in the >> That is exactly when we're doing all of our >> No, no, when when we're opening the beach is

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like we'll have we'll have beach staff. So, yeah, we're hoping that, um, again, this is, you know, new for Mo and, you know, um, there's stuff that we've got to figure out without Tim being, you

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know, here or access to Tim because he's, you know, busy over in Actton. >> Um, but, you know, we're thinking it's going to take us a little bit longer, obviously. Um, but we're hoping that that last week in weekend in May, we'll

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start to be able to do the weekends. So, we would have essentially three weekend um um openings in a in a row before we go seven days a week. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I just wonder if we push this

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later to give you guys bra like there's no like >> Yeah, we want to have an information session. Great. But it I don't I don't think it's pressing unless unless >> Jim very much wanted it done as soon as

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possible. So that's my feedback from Jim. >> So I was going to say we could schedule it Wednesday the 27th and then say rain date push it into June. I I mean I

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>> so like at the beach June 27th if that works for you but if it's June crunch her time then we need to push it in blue June anyway just need to tell June >> you're not staffed for it. So, can I can I if if you're going to put something So,

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so if we're worried about people who are at the beach, right, people who are already using the beach, can you in the same thing that you're going to when you put together an agenda for this meeting that Mel's going to talk over, can you have those same can you just put that on a onepage document and put those at the

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beach for the people who are at the beach to pick up so that they have the information and then you don't we don't have to worry about the people who are at the beach missing the meeting. I mean, as long as we can figure out a way for them not to blow away, then Yeah. >> Right. But you can, right? Because if you're worried about the people who are at the beach not getting the

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information, just give them the same give them the same agenda. >> Right. >> Right. >> Or give Yeah. Give them a little flyer when they >> give them the staff or memberships, whatever. >> Hand it out with the beach sticker something. Right. >> But yeah, I think I mean I'm more than

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happy to or Kate can do it because it'll be her job. the end of the meeting. >> Yeah, I don't mind having either >> to to give Jim the feedback that like >> Yeah, >> we think it much better to go,

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>> you know, early June, middle of June and >> just crunch time. >> Yeah. >> Middle middle middle of June would allow people to experience >> Yeah. >> the trash the trash service that's just changing. Get positive feedback on that.

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>> I think let's why don't we do that? I think that plan it for whatever the first second week in June. Um that should be easier on you guys.

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>> Do you need me and question? >> No, no, no, no. I Yeah, we can have that conversation. I just Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We can hold our gym meeting with each other. be there like my friend.

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>> There you go. >> All right. I'm not going to put anything out for the 27. >> Yeah. Connect with me if you want to be there >> for that. >> Yeah. back then. >> I would say 10th or 17th somewhere

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there. >> When do you think >> 10th or 17th >> and the main thing is it's holiday week already so people may not even be around. Yeah, that's >> we'll go with that. Yes.

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We already talked about that, so we'll figure out that date offline. Um, just a heads up though, timewise, we got an email from HR and they are expecting it all by June 2nd. I feel like that is a

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very lofty goal for them. So, we shall see. They usually come in at like June 30th at 11:59 p.m. Um it's just uh so this is just some up

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updating uh oh my god upcoming trainings that we have. Um the town in general um all of the departments are going through this uh crafts training um

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um but it's a civilian response to active shooter. Um so we are going to do that at um the office on page 27. Another reason why um so uh Nate did awesome job. He um

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scheduled this with Littleton Public Schools upstairs in the central school office. So um both of our departments will go through this training um with um Sergeant Detective Pablo. Um and uh it's going to be yeah from 12:30

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to 2:00 p.m. Um and then the other one that we had mentioned where um we will need to close the office because we do have to take all of the staff. Um Rec Technologies is uh they're doing a

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training for Watertown Nem and us. Um so we're all going to meet um in Watertown on the 3. um and have that training from 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 pm. Um so you are okay with that for the training.

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Um we do need to close the office uh for that time frame. So obviously we'll be there in the morning. >> Um but yeah um so those were the updates on trainings and Judy

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out there. Um >> let's see public input. Judy away have a nice meeting. >> Thanks Judy. >> Yeah, I'd like to speak to this. Um,

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you folks have always been very very kind to me with regard to time and two minutes, that sort of thing. But I also want to remind you when Deb Fidler and Dorcas Rule came with regard to the pathway that you then were incredibly responsive and very timely in getting

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that done and and I would just say that from a public standpoint me in particular some meetings that I would sit here for an hour plus and then wait for public input and then I would speak and sometimes saw you would see me making facial things and you would say go ahead Rob that sort of thing. But I

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just asked for consideration of maybe to make it easier for the public to participate. put it forward like first item, second item so that they know they can be here the beginning of the meeting, get their comments

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sent in as opposed to >> join the audience for >> but I I have said in some meetings where I waited an hour plus in order to say my two minutes. I >> have no problem moving it to the beginning. No, actually I think that's a uh I'd say after um

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>> after commissioner updates is probably a good place for it. >> No, that's a Yeah, >> no argument there. Then we could just say we welcome you to stay for the rest of >> please join us. >> We won't we won't even make you go

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through the minutes. Um so again schedule yeah >> um >> see old business no we got no more more new business

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sorry Judy >> um so we do change our summer hours um so uh starting on June 22nd um that will be the first day of our summer hours, which will be 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. uh

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Monday through Friday and um closed this is just office hours, right? Close Saturday, Sunday. Um we'll do that all the way through August 21st. Um and then we'll return to normal office hours on August 24th. Um and those normal office

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hours are Monday through Thursday 9 to 4, excuse me. Um and Friday 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Uh and close on Saturday and Sunday. So, just as a heads up, u and we'll get that up on the website to let folks know that that change will be happening at

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the ending. Um, so, um, okay, this is all business. >> I did all the edits that were asked for so you can review. If you're happy with

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it, um, we can print them so that we can get them up. If you want changes, then we can wait and just the signs that are there are they should be replaced. >> Yep.

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>> Yeah. I I just like to clarify because I witnessed them last week a pet situation >> on the walkway and it was almost >> on the walk almost the extent that

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>> somebody need to intervene. >> So what is the policy pertaining to a dog on leash walking across that pathway? because I watched an encounter that was ugly.

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>> Interesting. Um, so on leash it should be fine. >> Um, I would say if there's a situation where there was some sort of altercation, always call the police. Um, >> it got resolved within five minutes, but

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but it was unpleasant for other people around >> and children. >> Okay. Um, so the the reason that we ask for pets not to be there at the beach. So if you're walking through, absolutely. >> No, I re and that's where I don't know.

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I don't have the solution. I would just tell you that it is an active problem with regard to some people incorrectly thinking that they are the policy watchkeepers. Okay?

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and some arguing with regard to your be your you know pet can't be here and there was also an altercation with a ebike >> that was using >> that was using the the pathway and

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that's what between the two of them they decided to square off >> interesting >> in an unpleasant confrontation >> so so I don't I wasn't thinking about that till the no pets kind of sort of thing. >> Yeah.

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>> Um >> I mean I'm always under the impression that if bikes were meant to be on paths they would be called sag rides. Um they're not. They're called set walks. So um but that's just my personal opinion. Um but uh yeah, as far as

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walking through there's never been any issues as long as the dog's on leash. That's that's the piece like that is the town bylaw that they do have to be leashed. >> That's good. Um but um yeah, the main point with this sign is that um because

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we do water quality testing, if the handhelds dogs are in the water, I'm just clarifying for other folks that may be listening. Um that that can um sorry, taint the um the sample that we take and

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could give us a false report. So, we may have to close the beach. So, while we're taking water quality testing, we do really push the no pets um in the water at all. Um and also, you know, with the beach, there's so many people out there

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who just don't know, you know, folks are afraid or, you know, so just to be cognizant of that. Um we say no pets on the beach or in water during Memorial Day. Yeah,

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>> it's printed. Yeah, >> right. I think we've covered all, but >> I mean, I would love it to be less wordy, but I think everything that's on there is necessary. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, I like the location.

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You like location? >> Yeah. Call 911. This is your location because the first thing they ask you is >> where are you exactly >> right? >> Yeah, I think I think we got everything. So, >> all right. Sweet. Okay.

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>> Donskies having tomorrow. And there you go, my friends. Make a motion to adjourn meeting May 12th, 2026. Sure. >> Second. All in favor? >> I >> I