10 minutes early. >> No, we're right on time. All right. Say 7:30. >> Welcome to the meeting of the Township of Long Hill Planning Board for September 23rd, 2025. The time is 7:31.
Madam Secretary, would you mind making the announcements? >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> Number one, call to order and statement of compliance. Adequate notice of this meeting or hearing has been provided by posting a copy of the public meeting or hearing dates on the on the municipal bulletin board and website, by sending a copy to the Echo Sentinel newspaper, and
by filing a copy with the municipal clerk. Number two, standard board procedures. Any meeting or hearing is conducted by the board is a quasi judicial proceeding. Any questions or comments must be limited to issues that are relevant to what the board may legally consider in reaching a decision
and decorum appropriate to a judicial meeting or hearing must be maintained at all times. Number three, electronic devices. All in attendance are asked to mute cell phones or any electronic devices as to not interrupt the proceedings. Four, pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Uh, Miss Dill is currently absent, but I do expect her tonight, so I'll mark I'll
note what time she appears. Mr. Hans, >> here. >> Committee Lavender, >> I'm here. >> Mr. Lavario, >> here. Miss Ojins >> here. >> Mr. Opala >> here. >> Vice Chairman Jones >> present. >> Chairman Richardson >> here. >> Chairman, we have a qual. >> Excellent. Thank you.
>> Okay. Uh first order of business is item six, our an application. This is for a minor subdivision with variances. And the proposal is to have this particular application. It is
application number 25-19P to be carried to the October 14th, 2025 meeting. I'll turn it over to uh Chris if there's any additional information we need to provide on record. Thank you.
>> Absolutely. Not that it's necessary, but I'll just let you guys know that we we received an email from the uh the attorney for these guys, Fred Zill, who you guys probably know by now. Um they wanted to make a few changes to the application before they came in for the hearing. uh don't want to get ahead of anything but just very brief overview.
They want to reorient one of the houses reducing they want to reduce the size of both of the houses they're proposing and uh try to bring the height down a little bit too. So that's really it. So you know we did hear that they did notice properly for the board's September 9th meeting. The last one we had everything
was in order there. So we carried it to this evening by police announcement and we can do so again to carry it to October 14th before we still have the jurisdiction here to sign the case. So >> excellent. Yep. >> Thank you. So, do we need to do anything more formally >> for the board? >> Motion and a second to carry it.
>> A motion to >> carry, please. >> Motion to carry application number 25-19P to the next meeting which is scheduled >> October 14th. >> October 14th.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I Any opposed? >> Great. >> Okay. Let me make the uh I guess the formal announcement just to be better better safe than sorry. Right. So the application of uh Freddy Espinosa and Dign Barbara concerning property located
at block 10202 lot 12 in the R2 zone otherwise known as 53 Indian Run and Heritage Road is going to be carried to the board's uh October 14th 2025 meeting 7:30 p.m. here in the municipal building. No further notice will be required. This is your notice to all the people in the public.
>> I'll send it to my words. >> Great. Thank you. Okay. Uh, on to the next item. The meeting minutes, I am told, are still being worked on and so close by the next meeting, please. And we'll be caught up
at that point, too. >> I got the zoning board caught up, but you guys are almost there. >> Well, we really appreciate being thought of as second. >> Sorry, I had to finish. >> I object to one or the other. >> Exactly.
Uh the next item is uh a resolution. Uh this is uh a resolution uh for Classic Foods, Inc. doing business as uh the Burger King application number 25-12P. Uh the the resolution was distributed
for board review. So I will open it up to any uh questions or comments in regards to just the uh the accuracy of the resolution. The resolution was passed prior meeting.
>> So uh I have couple of comments but they're not fairly big. Um I think the resolution represents a discussion pretty clearly. Um, I only found two typo things in it. >> I'll take it. It's better than three.
>> Um, on the bottom of page five, number seven, I I know you were trying to keep the name of the fast food restaurant to the west out of it, but in item seven, you left Taco Bell in. >> Yeah. Um, typically I leave it out, but it's not an issue if it is okay. In there. >> Yeah.
>> So, I don't One way or another. >> Yeah. Um and then on the top of page nine in item 22 uh under number two the what second sentence it's which
starts with additionally it says additionally the board notes that the ordinance and signage design standards are intended to minimize there visual clutter. >> Yep. And that that was the only thing I found.
>> Wow. All right. Well, I'll take it. >> Still room for improvement, >> I guess. So, >> but that's a 90 for your English teacher. >> That's better than 90. That's a 95. Easy. >> They made me write articles to the uh like a kids section in the 100
accounting Democrat. I had to write in all fifth grade. Every >> just write the word two a 100 times and you're off to >> I probably wrote a few million times over the course of my lifetime. to or tw or TW >> omin. >> I'll leave that to the attorney.
>> What you got? >> Okay. Any any further >> Oh, >> comments. >> One comma on board action on page one after the nine. >> Okay. >> Almost had it there. That's only going to be one. >> Two and a half. >> Yeah.
>> I had no other com. I had no comments. Okay. Tony, anybody else? >> No. >> Oh, Deb, do you want to make the changes? Do you want me to do it when it's >> uh since I just missed that last one? Yeah, if you don't mind making it. >> Yeah, it was just on on the first page
where it says board action at the top. Just need a comma after September 9th. >> Oh, look at that. >> I could do that. It's easy. >> Okay. So, uh, with that said, is there a motion to, uh, accept this resolution as
amended? >> Uh, motion to accept, uh, the resolution for application number 25-12P as, uh, minor amendments. Uh, that is my motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> Vice Chairman Jones.
>> Yes. >> Still, >> yes. >> Miss Ojins. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hams, >> yes. >> Mr. Deliverio. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Chairman Richardson. >> Yes. >> Motion carries. >> Good. Great. >> Excellent. Okay. So, uh, now I'm going
to go into just any old or new business and open it up. Uh, the first I wanted to just make mention of that was included in our packet was the zoning board of adjustment annual reporting.
Um, that was dated 2022 to 2024. So, I guess that's a synopsis of uh different items that the zoning board had identified and is now um for our consumption. since it came out fairly
late like today. Uh I what I would recommend is that the uh ORC team consider this in their next meeting and review and advise back to the board. Uh anything that you would like to rep
prioritize based on this report? I don't know if there's any preliminary comments. We've got a little time if if if uh board members have had a chance to review this, but it did come out. >> Just Mr. Chair, just from uh a review of this, there are two items on here that
we've had discussions on. One of them being generators, second one being sheds. So, we have done some extensive work on that. Uh so, it's good to go back to revisit those and we will do that. Uh a couple of these other items is the first time I'm seeing this. Uh, and I am noting from the first
paragraph, this is a review period from January 1, 2022 to December 31st, 2024. So there are, as far as I can tell, no 2025 submissions. So I would expect to see any new additions from this calendar year to be in 20 reported to us sometime
in 2026, right? >> Or if I'm following a two-year cadence, it might be 2027. Now, now that we've got a master plan in place and we have uh >> war professionals that are going anywhere, we're going to excis. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> The other specific business I just wanted to mention in this particular category is >> um Scott, this is for you. It's just a request that uh we dedicate whatever and allocate funds for uh Joe Vuch or uh
board planner to complete the zoning map. I think um we need to press forward now that we have a draft ordinance changing all the nomclature. We now want to commit to uh updating the map that I think the last time the map was updated
was 2016 I want to say. So, and Joe has already done a lot of the analysis. So, I don't anticipate that this is going to be too time consumption too time consuming or costly is >> Is there an estimate on what what >> I have not seen that I I think that's
something we need to take up with Joe, >> right? Because there's a budget that's prepared every year that allocates money to the planning board for its professionals. >> So, we should probably figure out what that delta is and communicate that. >> I think we're okay. I mean from what I
understand and how we've been utilizing Joe off applications that there should be adequate funding for him >> funding on our side but the TCS to determine whether it's if Joe's updating the map that would normally come from township coordinator
>> not the planning board. >> Yeah. I think that's a township committee appropriation. >> I mean there's definitely enough monies left in our budget for this year if the TC wants to bill it to the planning board. But I think that has to be directed. >> So Joe Joe should communicate that
directly to Randy. >> Okay. I I just wanted to make sure you were aware of it because I was told that Joe had mentioned that it made sense for it to come from the township committee as far as directing him to do this. >> And if if Randy has the information, then that's
>> how it'll how it'll how it'll flow. >> Great. Okay. Uh, so we'll just I will I will take on making sure Joe pres presents that proposal information to Randy. >> What what he should do is send an email to document this. Copy you, copy me.
>> Perfect. >> And send it and have him send it to Randy with the information. He should probably provide some estimate of what that would be above and beyond what he normally does. >> Yeah. And then just to help him prioritize a sense of timing. We'd really like to get that done sooner than later. >> Great. Okay.
>> Thanks, Mr. Chair, I was just going to include that same thing, an estimate and on cost and an estimate on time. >> I can imagine that this will probably something we would start to see come to closure hopefully uh in 2026. >> Yes. Well, really I I would like to get the map that this year would be
>> Yeah, I would like to see it this year, but there I'm sure there's a bunch of priorities and and still in flight, so we have to figure out where in the priorities. >> Do you have any sense on how much time is this? Like a week's worth of work, half a week's worth of work, a month? >> I don't have a sense. I I I can tell you that his uh email analysis was extensive
because he's having to go through and look at all the different overlays and see how they fit and some of the the the different changes that have been made since 2020 2016. >> Um so yeah, it's it I don't think it's a
week, but I don't think it's months. >> So, >> okay. Uh any other comments? Yes, >> just uh the annual report from the zoning board. Would we be doing an annual report in the not too distant
future? And will we follow the same format? Will we do it for the same time period or that's kind of up for for discussion? >> We don't planning does not do an annual report. >> Short answer is no. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But otherwise you'd be assigned to that
committee. There you go. Right there. Committee of one. >> That's a great suggestion. Committee of one. >> Do you want to do an annual >> somewhere? I thought I remembered reading. >> Not in the bylaws. >> The requires the zoning board to do. >> The zoning board has to do a wrap-up.
>> They they absolutely have to. Um but Miss Ojins, uh we have provided updates as to our pro of the work that we have done. Um, and I don't think it's a terrible idea to say, "Hey, this is a number of applications we saw. Here's a number of ordinances that we touched and
impacted to kind of give people a sense of what it is we've accomplished." It gives you a sense of the work that you've done at no cost because you volunteered to your time to do this. Um, it's not it's not a bad idea to just
give a wrap up, a summary. >> Okay. We could consider that, you know, early part of Q1 of 2026. >> Yeah. >> I've seen one pager annual reports in some other town. It's just like a fan of one page. >> It's all a matter of how much work you
want to put in. >> Exactly. Well, the only thing I may be interested is any consequential things that come out of a particular similar to the annual is anything important that we learned >> that we should think about from any applications that we looked at. So,
>> well, and interestingly enough, I don't think we touched on did I do we even touch on homebased businesses now what we're do? I don't even think we did. >> Yeah. >> Well, the zoning board wouldn't see it, right? Because there's only one section, >> right? Because that goes those go in front of this board, >> right? Right. Right. So that that's on
my personal list, you know, of ordinances that I'd like as you know, >> as it probably makes reason. We've talked about it in the past. I know we've talked about in the past to do it. I don't think it's a bad idea personally. >> So, we can consider it as long as it's
consistent with MLUL and we're not >> I don't see why it would be a problem. It's not required, but it's >> right. Right. And we're not in breach of any any law by >> No, it's just reporting to the governing body and I guess the zoning board as well. >> Yeah. No, it's not >> they have the idea of the of the annual
report is that you know the zoning board has no legislative power whatsoever, right? So they're just reporting to >> planning board and the governing body, hey, you might want to take a look at this because we've saw like, you know, 10 setbacks this year or something. >> So congratulations, Pam. You're team captain of the >> There you go. >> Well, I won't have to be worried until
2026 cuz I wasn't here the last two years. >> Okay, perfect. Well, I don't know if it needs to be necessarily consistent with the the annual the the two-year annual report. >> I think a summation is just fine. >> Yes, exactly. It's just a simple summation. >> I could absolutely do a summation of
>> I think it would it's really working with >> five years >> and said now that the master plan was completed in 2023 that we did it. Yep. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 2023, >> you know, now that the the board, you know, has completed the updated the master plan and these are the
applications that have been seen in the last five years. Here's the the zoning board's annual report. You know, I could do something similar like that. >> I can give you an update that we did the state plan. We did that participation. We've done the um uh >> uh fair share housing piece. So, a lot
of work has been done by this group and >> plus application. I I should be able to write something up. >> Fairly high level. and ordinance work. I should see what you >> said. >> So, yeah, I just want to capture so so between our board secretary Pam and
you're you would volunteer to help pull something together. That'd be great. >> Yep. Happy to do that. >> And I think the summation it would be appropriate if we can really by the end of the year instead of waiting. >> That's what I would target. It' be one of our last meetings of the year, >> right? >> Unless we're inundated with an
application. >> I I look forward to the slide presentation. bring cookies. >> Um, Mr. Chair, is there any way we can get an update on the um um American Water and the and how they're
progressing with the um the sewer plant updates? >> Yeah. Uh the last briefing that I've heard, and Scott, correct me if I'm wrong, that they were still on track to be able to lift certain um uh or at least I think the best way to express it
to honor certain applications, TWWA applications that were coming in. I I assume that we gave them a list of the developments that were in need of TWWAS and sewer connections. Yeah, we didn't. Yeah, >> remember that came out that came out of one of the meetings and was an action
item. So, we've provided that. So, >> my understanding is that um that I've heard nothing to the contrary that they will meet their obligation >> that they will not meet their >> no that they will meet their they will meet their obligation of uh the October
2025 deadline. >> Okay. >> We know Tifa the Tifa site and Prism are looking forward to getting going on that. We've seen the progress that's been made over in Gillette. >> Uh we've seen some developments that are starting to um >> take shape.
>> Uh and we know that there are several other applications that are um look looking to move forward with their at least the fair on the fair share housing side, right? >> Um at the consignment shop. Although I haven't seen anything further, we know that they they've come to us, >> right?
I would I would expect that the sewer working group will probably get together again in early October to and we'll report back on the 14th if if anything is different than what we've what I've expressed. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Y good. Any other old or new business?
Yes, please. Just state plan just make sure that folks saw there there's some public meetings coming up. There's six of them. So maybe just if anybody's interested, I'm sure it's on their website somewhere. And there's a couple of inerson meetings in October the 14th.
>> Mhm. >> At 9:30 in West Hampton, West Hampton Township and then back at Morristown on October the 15th at 6:00. So if anybody's interested, >> what will be the scope of those
meetings? Are those for input or? >> Oh, they says the draft the state planning commission shall conduct six public hearings for the purpose of receiving testimony on the draft draft final New Jersey state development and redevelopment plan and
the draft infrastructure needs assessment. So >> the public may comment to the hearing >> at any time up to 30 days after the last hearing is conducted. So
>> do they say where they're going to do these hearings or >> Yeah, there's a couple there's a couple of inerson ones and there's a couple there's four virtual all basically in the week of October the 14th, >> right? >> Yeah. the 14th or 17th that week, six
meetings. >> Maybe you could send that link over to uh Deb, unless you want to distribute it around to the board just so we have them. >> Did you Did you get it? The original one. >> I I have it. I can send it. >> I don't remember. I don't remember >> if it was a while back.
>> Yeah, I I can >> maybe you got it, Bob. I know you've got it. >> Have you got it at hand? Yeah. If you want to just send it to >> Yeah, I'm sure it's probably on the state planning commission website. >> Must be. >> All right. But just a particular one that he found as the link to the zoom. So >> yeah. >> All right.
>> And then just a minor add-on point. Um I don't know did we leave with Joe to do the response back to the county when they we talked about the 12 you know 12 towns 10 towns whatever. >> Mhm.
>> Do we get was that ever done? Do you know? Does anybody know? >> Do you know? >> Sure. So, is that question for when we chose back in front of us? >> I mean, yeah, unless you want to email me and I'll ask because I don't I thought everything was done that they did everything they were supposed to. So, >> yeah, I just don't remember. I haven't
seen anything where we asked him to go back to Morris County. >> Well, you could send me an email reminder and I'll ask him. He's in the office tomorrow. >> Oh, he is. Okay. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Good. Thank you. The only other thing that was on my mind too, Scott, did we
ever get any confirmation as to or is there any confirmation that comes from on the affordable housing >> uh submissions? Is everything in line and copacetic? >> Um, we'd have to talk to Jack about
that. >> Okay. Okay. So that would be maybe something we could bring back or share with the committee >> since we did work on pulling all that together. >> Good. All right. Any other old or new
business? Okay. A motion to adjurnn. >> Thank you. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Well done. Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. Official meeting. I just sent it to you
>> next month. I'm not here dates. >> Sorry, Mr. Chair. I forgot to miss did arrive. >> Oh, well, I think the second one did. So, I just don't know, >> but I saw
how you let me know if there's a um Can you turn the microphones off? I thought it was