[Music] We're live. We're live. >> All right. I like the call to order. >> Call to order the >> November 5th. >> November 5th >> 2025 Long Township. >> Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I got it.
>> I told you if we can pledge the least, it's better. All right. All right. to the United States of America to the republic to the republic for it standy and justice for all. Madam clerk, >> in the in compliance with the open
public meetings act of New Jersey, adequate notice of of this meeting, specifically the time, date, and public call and information were included in the meeting that was electronically sent to the Echo Sentinel Morris daily record and posted on the township website. The agenda and public handouts for this meeting can be viewed online at
www.longhillnj.gov. A public comment period will be held in the order it is listed on the meeting agenda. >> Um, Committeeman Lavender >> here. Committeewoman Riker Elign is not joining us. Committeeman Verlesa >> present.
>> Deputy Mayor Peria. He is on with listening capabilities. He's on mute right now, but will have no voting abilities. Um, and Mayor Dorsy >> here. >> All right, let's see. At this point, I'll open the meeting to public remarks
for a very strict three minutes. hoping that batteries work. Well, >> got it. >> It's going to slide down. >> I got it. I got my hand on. Good evening, Charles Renoitz Millington. I have six comments in the order on the agenda. I'll try to make it in three
minutes. Mayor, go ahead. >> Comment one, executive session. Topic: Property acquisition. The township owns enough property that we do not need to buy properties for a new police headquarters. Please look at the properties Longhill Township owns
currently. Contract negotiations, affordable housing update. This issue has been on the executive session for the past three or four meetings. Please update this to the public.
Comment two, resolution 57625, an ordinance amending section 124.1 of the township land use ordinance regarding apartments and business zones. Caution number one, I caution you of
this major change allowing partners in long apartments in Longhill Township on the first floor versus the second floor, especially in one of our villages that floods frequently. that village would be known as Sterling.
Comment number two, key issues on density of apartment units per acre. Please reference my density comments at the last township committee meeting. If you need more information after the last township committing meeting, please let me know. Comment three, consent agenda
resolutions. Resolution 25253 authorizing special event license holiday cheer. >> Bill, are you channeling the McGlaclin Group? >> Here we go. What are the holiday display items requested for Turtle Rock Park and
how will these displays be lit? Comment number four, resolution 25254, approving special event license, Meyersville Treeanding Association.
Based upon this resolution, this event is not a township sponsored event. Therefore, who pays for the other services? police, fire, first aid, DPW, and recreation to support this event.
Resolution 25257, amending personnel policy and procedures manual as amended. The taxpayers need to see the amendments. What are they? Hopefully, there's a normal distribution curve for
performance evaluation and normal distribution compensation curve to reward Long Hill Townships top performers, which I discussed also at the last meeting. Comment number five, liaison reports. I
previously recommended that the leison reports be included in the published agenda as Warren Township has doing for the past number of years. I again recommend you adopt the publication of the laser ports on the agenda. This saves time
at the meetings and allows for public comment andor questions on these liaison reports during the open public session like now. Comment number six discussion item Northfield Road traffic
light. We do not need another traffic light on Valley Road. We have too many traffic lights already in this township. It already slows traffic flow on Valley Road. Thanks for your time in the additional 10 seconds. >> That was nine. >> But I lost track after three. You
started resetting and you forgot to wish the Marine Corps a happy birthday early on. >> Not till next month. >> I know. >> Okay. Three minutes. You're supposed to say, "What say you? I have Dennis Sandow Millington. >> You want me to spell that for you?
>> I got it. Thank you. >> Uh 253, a holiday cheer event. It actually doesn't say in this resolution who the sponsor is or who the applicant is for the uh permit.
>> Turtle Park. Yeah. >> Misty Javas doing last year too. >> 253. >> That's about the Turtle Rock Park thing. >> Say again. >> That's that's the thing in Turtle Rock Park. >> Yes. >> Yeah. It's Yasmin D. Javani. The who?
>> Giovanni Jasmine. She's doing it herself. She did it last year, too. >> It doesn't say it. >> Oh, well, it has to say it, but that's who's doing it. >> Well, if you're going to authorize the issuance of a permit, and it will be in the archives forever due to the retention laws,
we ought to know. >> Good point. >> Who it is. >> It's a license, not a permit as well, though. >> Excuse me. >> It's a license, not a permit. >> Yes. But the minutes that authorize that license will be kept forever. >> Correct. Yeah.
>> And years from now, I'll come back and I'll say, "Who was that?" And you'll say, "I don't know. It's not in the minutes." >> You are your successor. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Anyone else from the public? >> Anyone online? >> Anybody on Zoom would like to make a public comment, please raise your hand now. I don't see anyone, mayor. >> All right, moving along. All right, we're going on to ordinances. Oh, Pam,
sorry. Come on up, Pam. >> Pam Ojins, Millington. Um, can you tell me if this is an appropriate time to bring this up or not? It is the second reading. >> No, we'll do at the second reading. >> Okay. >> This is for stuff that's not for second
reading. So, you can come up right and then you can do that. Perfect. No, thank you for asking. All right. So, reserve her time. All right. Now, ordinance 578-25, first reading. This is parking regulation of the three railroad station parking lots. Jack was updating some
language in there since our last meeting. >> Yes. Thank you to Mr. Sandow. He pointed out there was a mistake I made in designating the parking lot across from Millington station just a lot. I will send a revised ordinance to Megan in the morning, but it doesn't change the
substance of the ordinance at all. >> All right. Can I have a motion introduce 578-25? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Committeeman Lavender. >> Yes. >> Committeeman Vlesa. >> Yes. >> Mayor Burgersia.
>> Oh my goodness. Mayor Dorsy. >> Sorry. >> That's all right. >> Oh jeez. >> 579-25. >> I'm sure a guy like that. amending chapter five of the animal control mega which is increasing the fees. >> Correct. They're they're um
yes they were too low. Um and we have been utilizing a different it's become inconsistent with our fee schedule. >> Is this the this isn't the fee of the license. It's a late late fee. >> Correct. Correct. >> So the license fee is still the same.
This is the late fee for being >> correct. This is if you don't get it in by what is it? March 31st, you get a summons and all of that. >> Got it. All right. I have a motion to approve this for a second reading. >> So moved. >> Second.
>> Committeeman Lavender. >> Yes. >> Committ. >> Yes. >> Mayor Dorsy. >> Yes. Now we have second readings. Pam. Second reading for 576-25 amending section of the land use ordinance regarding apartments in business zones.
All right. Any member of the public want to make any comments about this? I know Mr. Ren already did. Okay. Is this the one you want to comment on? >> All right. Seeing none, anybody online? >> Anybody on Zoom would like to make a public comment regarding ordinance
57625? Please raise your hand now. I don't see anyone. Mayor, >> Scott, this is one already through the planning board and everything else. They discussed it. We got a letter from them. >> Correct. >> It came from them. >> Yeah. Okay. and they reviewed it after introduction >> and they're obviously >> they're good with it. They passed a
resolution saying that it's not not inconsistent with the master plan. >> All right. Can I have a motion to approve uh or adopt ordinance 576-25? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Committ Lavender. >> Yes. >> Committee Verza.
>> Yes. >> Mayor Dorsy. >> Yes. All right. The last ordinance. Pam, get ready. 577-25 amending the land use ordinance regarding renaming single family residential and all this other stuff. So Pam, you want to open to the public? I know Miss O has some comments or
questions. O >> Pam Oins Millington. Uh we discussed this at planning board of course. Uh just for clarity on LU11 in the renaming of the residential zones
strikethroughs make um the R2 which now will be R45 a little confusing when the public goes to read it. So, I would just like to see uh R-2 and a space
>> or down the bottom where it says zone. >> We're on page nine under residential zone. >> Okay. >> So, you have your C which hasn't changed. >> Right. And Pam, I would I would also um point out that on the next page, LU121.1
um kind of summarizes all those changes and you can see where you know R2 crossed out is R45, >> right? >> Because you you are right. I mean the the the strikeouts especially in that first one >> the cross the cross line of the four looks like it's a cross out but it's
not. >> Really just cross. >> Correct. So if you look at this page that that removes the ambiguity and when these are published >> all the crossouts go away. >> Yeah. >> So the strike, >> right? Because this is in draft.
>> Yeah. Once it goes in the code. >> So the strikethroughs will be gone. >> But it's good that you point that out because that one faked me out too. >> Yeah. It's I mean it's easy to correct um for Well, this is second reading so it's done. But if you wanted to to just
put a space between the two and the four and the strikeout only on the two and that occurs in one, two, three, three places only. It's a quick fix. >> All right. No, thank you. >> No, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Uh again, this was something that went through Scott went to the planning board
and >> Yeah, this is just reorganizing the naming to be consistent with the master plan. >> All right. >> And you know, everything else that follows from here is going to adhere to these this nomenclature. >> Got it. Anybody? online. >> Anybody on Zoom would like to make a
public comment regarding ordinance 57725, please raise your hand now. >> I don't see anyone, mayor. >> All right. So, I can make motion to approve ordinance. I've lost track. 5707-25.
>> So moved. Second. >> Committeeman Lavender. >> Yes. >> Committee Verlesa. Yes, >> Mayor Darcy. >> Yes. All right. Now, we're consent agenda resolution. Anything needs to be pulled out
or discussed or refused from anyone. All right. So, motion to approve consent agenda 25248 to 258. >> You do it. >> You're good at it. So moved.
Second. >> Committeeman Lavender. >> Yes. >> Committeeman Verlesa. >> Yes. >> Mayor Dorsy. >> Yes. All right. Committee reports. Scott, you want to start? >> Yes. >> You're ready? Go ahead. So, first thing I'd like to say, um I met with the AV
committee uh today to talk about the situation with the microphones and also to improve um audience participation in zoning and planning board meetings. Um I'll talk about video first. Some of the
ideas that we came up with is potentially a larger screen monitor or some way to get um uh video monitors more accessible to the audience. Um you guys will notice that little black that little box down there with the two little blue rabbit ears.
>> Yeah, that actually does um uh transmit something called NDI, which is a a wireless high def signal. Uh so we've got some stuff to work with that they had um you know had the foresight to put in ahead of time. So we're working through some of those some of those
issues. Along those lines, Randy, um we'd like to have a meeting with Rob Duthor um to you know kind of get a handle on a baseline because he he did some work in here over the past couple of years. And then secondly for um the microphones um
we'll get uh some specifications on some new mics that we can look at for budgeting for next year. Things with rechargeable packs as opposed to double A batteries which seem to run out and frustrate everybody. Uh or in the case of this microphone right here if people are just talking there just putting a
wired mic there that never needs to have batteries. That's another thing we could do. So what's the net result of this? We're going to talk with Dowler, get a baseline on everything that's here. Uh do a little bit more um thought work on video, but you know, you'll see some
sort of a recommendation on something that we could either RFP or just outright purchase. >> Well, I will um we're asking for an update of something we did last year. >> Um so I can give that over to you for you guys to review. Yeah, we'd like to just >> You might be in the same
>> We get Larry and Guy to sit down with um >> was it Dave or >> Rob? Bob. >> Okay. So, that's that. Um so, popular demand, we're trying to fix what happens in here. Um because we we get some
comments on that. Next, library update. All right. The library is open Monday and through Sunday. Uh slide two. Uh the friends of the Long Hill Library are organizing a shreddit day as a fundraiser for the library uh this
Saturday from 10 to 1 in the parking lot in front of the municipal building. Next, the Gates Avenue Knitters annual hat sale is now open at the Long Hill Library. Come by and admire their beautiful knitted pieces. And I assume they're selling those beautiful hats,
right? >> Correct. >> That's right. >> Okay, next slide. The library hosts Italian and Spanish language lessons throughout the year. Ask at the front desk for details on how to join the fun. And you don't have to ask in Italian or
Spanish. You can ask in English. Slide five. In-person meditation classes at the library. Wednesdays at 6:30 p.m. No registration is needed. Next, upcoming art talk. Famous self-portraits.
Register online for the Zoom line. Is that Rembrandt? I think it is. Slide seven. The library hosts free movies every week on Wednesdays and Thursdays. Now showing familyfriendly movies on Sunday at 2
p.m. And more information is available on site and that's the library report. Oh, one more thing. The library know they are collecting uh when people get those Amazon packages. They're like the white um like the bubble wrap white packages. instead of throwing them out
to donate them to libraries, use them when they ship fragile maybe CDs or games back and forth. So if you get packages that have the bubble lined um what are they envelopes, they'll be more than happy to take them. >> Thank you, Vic. >> Yes. You know, you throw those out, but they're expensive when you have to buy
them. >> Yes, that's a great idea. >> Go ahead. >> All right. >> All right. First off, slide one. We hope everyone had a wonderful Halloween. We are currently looking for the biggest
leaf in Longill. Do you have it? Find the biggest leaf you can and come into the recreation department during town hall hours for an official measuring. On November 13th, we will name our winner. Consider taking a walk through Hicks
Tract. It's a perfect It's perfect weather to go leaf peeping through the trails. Good luck. Adult open play basketball has started and runs at Central School on Thursday nights 7:30 p.m. till 900 pm until 5726.
Pre-registration on community pass is necessary in order to attend. More information is on our website. Saturday recreation basketball registration has closed and programming will start on November 22nd.
Looking to take a Red Cross training class? Join us for CPR AED training on Thursday, November 6th, first aid training on Wednesday, November 12th from 6:00 through 9:00 p.m. Participants compete completing
each class will receive a certificate good for two years. The cost is $35 per person. Register on community pass and all classes are held at the Longill First Aid Squad building. There is still room to sign up for yoga
Monday morning starting at no on November 10th. Please register on community pass if interested. More information is available on our website. Open to students in grades 6 through 12. Babysitting training class. This safe
class prepares students to be safe when they are home alone watching younger siblings or babysitting. This course will be held on Sunday, November 16th at the Long Hill First Aid Squad training room from 9:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. Students
will learn tips on how to stay safe when they are home alone, watching younger siblings, or babysitting. Space is limited, so register early. The cost is $119 per student. And please check our website for more information.
And last but not least, we are always looking for new members to join our recreation advisoring committee. Interested? Please contact the parks and recreation department. And that concludes my recreation update.
>> Thank you, Vic. and from I guess community services uh with the SNAP benefits being cut by the MAGA crowd um the food pantries in more need of anything. So it's very easy to donate. You can leave stuff at Shopright, you can leave it at the library, you can
bring it to uh the uh All Saints Church. So although it's not Thanksgiving yet, people in need need food all the time. So please uh donate as much as you can. And remember the ShopRite free turkeyy's coming up too. you can contact them, then they can arrange where you can donate the turkeys or the hams.
>> And may I add something to that, too? Um, last last week, yes, last Saturday, Troop 56 Boy Scouts was putting uh doorork knob hangers for their pickup, and they'll be collecting those bags this Saturday. That stuff goes straight to the food pantries. >> Saturday or next Saturday?
>> This Saturday. >> Oh, it is. Okay, good. >> That'll go straight to the food pantries, you guys mentioned. >> Yes. And you can leave it right out on a what, a regular bag. The kids will come pick it up. And I'm telling you, they'll they'll literally will fill this room with food. And that's not an exaggeration, >> but you can't use a plastic bag. Well,
you can. It's not a supermarket. Okay. >> Yeah. Black market plastic bags are fine. >> Yes. But then Scott's right. I've seen how much they collect. It's It's crazy amount of food. It's great. >> And the last thing is recycling. We have the shoes to recycle. Coffee pods, um,
motor oil, cooking oil, styrofoam. So, please bring it down and uh keep it out of the stream of uh the garbage stream. And I know Al's always looking for new ideas. I think he went to somewhere recently or going to somewhere. Oh, he didn't go yet. To another recycling center, I think in another state to see different ideas they're using. Thank
you. That's all the announcements. All right. What's Randy Administrator's report? Yeah, I just want to add um I I believe you mentioned it, but the food bank uh the food pantry also takes um gift cards to Shopright and various
locations. Uh so feel free to also donate them. Um I just have one thing there. We're going to be doing some capital project work over in KO Park on Friday and possibly Saturday morning. They're hoping to finish up on Friday.
Um if they don't and the weather doesn't cooperate Saturday, it may be Monday. Um but we will be milling and resurfacing the basketball court. >> And that's all I have, Mr. Mayor. >> All right, let's see discussion items.
Ebike ordinance. >> I thought it was us. Sorry, >> Jack. You want to talk about the ebike ordinance where we left off with that? >> We really didn't get too far into it. The last I thought Randy I thought Randy was working on a draft. I I had done a
draft that I submitted and then Randy was meeting with Chief uh John and somebody else. I forget who. Uh working on a draft. I I don't think I've seen it. >> No. Um Chief, did you want to come up to add
any comments that I might miss? Uh but we we um went through it. I um there's a couple things that we have uh that I have questions on and the chief may have a question on or two.
Um section F line item number seven. Um just I don't think it read I think it's confusing. I don't think it reads >> which section are you? I'm sorry.
Section F, parking generally. And number seven says, "No person shall park a low-speed electric bike or low speed electric scooter upon a street." >> Are you working off the draft? I did. >> Uh, yes. Should be like,
>> Yeah, I'm just scrolling down. >> Page eightish. It's not on the agendas. >> Not on the agenda. >> No, >> I I have like section 238. I'm not sure what
>> right before 238. There's letters >> and under letter. >> Oh, I see. >> Under letter, >> parking generally. Okay. Park number seven. It says, "No person shall park a low speed or electric bicycle electric low speed electric scooter upon a street
other than upon the roadway against the curb or in a designated bicycle electric scooter or electric bicycle parking area in a rack to support the electric scooter or electric bicycle or against a building or at the curb."
>> Yeah, that's straight out of the park. >> Yeah. to me. I mean, we're not we're not allowing them to park against the curb, but we are on the last sentence allowing them at the curb. >> I think some of the issue is that they actually just lay them on the ground.
So, they're laying across the sidewalk, the area where the pedestrians walk, and so they're they don't put them up against the building or in a parking area. >> Maybe we could we could kind of clean that up. >> The same form factor as a bicycle
though, right? Yeah. And so what if someone left a bicycle laying on the sidewalk? >> Do we just change it to you can't park it on the sidewalk or >> traffic or pedestrians? >> Yeah, I think that's I think that's the goal. >> This is confusing language.
>> I think it's the goal for obstruction. >> So no parking on sidewalk or no obstructing traffic or pedestrians. >> Yeah. And the 23852 that you cited there, Jack. >> Yes.
>> I'm thinking that probably got carried over from >> from there >> from there. >> Yeah, probably. >> So, we would just need the >> And again, I I get this stat. >> Oh, yeah. 420. I'm sorry. I did a find and replace. I don't know why that one
didn't come out, but I'll fix that. >> Um, in the which would be 420.7 I guess or -7. >> Yes. >> Uh, C, we have violations of the provisions of this section may be
enforced in any lawful manner. Um, I would think by the town of Longonghel Police Department may deem appropriate. I I I think I think just remove may deem appropriate and just
>> leave it. So it was a suggestion that we um the fines we have in here is 200 two I'm sorry 250 first offense 500 second offense and a,000 for the third offense. Uh we I was thinking a little lesser
200, 300, and 500, but maybe with the second or third offense or maybe even the first offense. Um you know, these are these >> or community services. >> Yeah. The first section deals with people over 18. So, you know, any
officer could write them because they're over 18. >> Yeah. Uh but under 18 um the the kids really aren't getting any punishment. Um it does say that we can uh you know confiscate the scooter or
the bicycle for seven days and as it gets as it gets uh second and third offense it could be a little longer. Uh but it was recommended maybe we have them do community service or something like that. >> Okay. >> Um I don't know how you guys feel about that but we we don't want the kids uh
just going to my dad and say, "Here, can you pay this for me?" And not >> this is >> not feel the pain if you want. >> This is for minors. >> Yes. >> Yes. Not feel the pain. >> Yeah. Know community service would be something right off the bat. First offense. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All this is probably going to get
preempted at some point. >> Yeah. >> In the near future, but in the meantime. >> Yeah. It may. And um on the there's actually doing some doing a little research on the third offense. So he made a like you said Scott made a first offense there's an actual course that
you can take online ebike regulations course >> maybe have them and uh the parents have to certify that they did it you know that they did it. Um so that um chief did you have anything else? I know we went through this. These
are a couple things that that um that I I saw and just wanted to raise them as as my my second thought process of uh going through this. >> Um and I know we sat down and went through it. Um it it's
very I think it's very detailed. Um >> you know I think we had a very healthy discussion uh with it. Um you know we about bicycles, you know, bicycles and ebikes
are difference. And you know, uh, one of the things that we definitely want to do, which is in here, is is not allow ebikes um, in the parks because especially this park here at Caner Park, we have a lot of people that walk the dogs, small, you
know, a lot of people that walk. Uh we don't want we don't want a disaster happening with either a dog or somebody walking with >> What's the maximum speed of one of these things >> difference? >> Well, they have you can alter the settings. I think they're around 20
something 29 miles an hour or something. >> 29 miles hour. >> Some of them. Yeah, but they you can you can alter them. >> There's kits online. >> The kids know how to >> Yeah, you can alter them. Also, >> the wreck advisory committee did go over their parks and um
their parks rules and regulations and they did put forth um a revisement on that. So, it'll be on the December 5th meeting agenda for those revisions to say no ebikes in the parks. >> And that's something that we'll be able to enforce even if it seemed like
anything over a certain over a certain limit of speed should be licensed as a motor vehicle. Well, that's what the laws are going to provide. >> There are there's there's correct me if I'm wrong, there's a class one, class two, class three. Class three needs to be have a license,
>> helmet. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because that goes uh in in excess of 25. I think it I think they say 28, but again, like the chief said, um you could buy kits to alter those.
>> Motorcycles. >> Yeah. Um, I did talk to the superintendent of of schools uh to to get any concerns they may have. Uh, they sent me back that they do not allow uh any ebikes or e scooters on um on school property. You
have to get off of them at school property and walk them to the bike racks. Uh, Sergeant Sutton said he actually observed kids doing that um at Central Schools down here.
He wasn't sure if it was because principal Veterelli was outside or not, but the kids were abiding by that walking the uh bikes to the uh uh bike racks. So, um that was their biggest concern with the school. Um, again,
recreation like the clerk Megan said, um, they just they want to have them you can walk the bikes in the park to get to the other side, but they do not want them driving or riding the scooters, e- scooters or ebikes, uh, because of the
amount of people that walk around the parks. >> So, what's the next step on this? Uh if you guys are okay with with what we discussed, we can bring this forward as a as introductory. Um we are kind of
short on meetings for the rest of the year. >> Um so it could be January. So um I would offer this if if you know people want to make any suggestions or anything, shoot me an email. um come to the next
committee meeting and >> you just send this to us to review and we can just keep >> dialoging. >> In the meantime, I'll make all the changes that >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for having uh Sergeant Sutton. I think Dean was over at Central talking
to the kids about safety. >> So, that was good job getting those guys over. >> Oh, good. All right. That's good to hear. Thank you, Chief. >> All right, so now we have discuss Northville Road traffic by Randy. This came out of the with the county the other day with the traffic advisory.
>> Yeah, the the this was brought up in the traffic advisory committee um a while ago and uh this was brought back some years ago. I want to say 2004 around that time. and the county found
that there was after the study that a light was warranted. At that time the committee decided not to do anything. Um we talked about it this past week. Um the county did come back with their consultant and with a report and it does
meet enough uh points to warrant a light at that intersection. Um I we talked about since we since it's been repaved, the township has taken steps to try to um alert
uh vehicles and it's coming mostly from the north to the south uh where there's more accidents happening. Since we installed the LED stop lights, since we did some uh warnings, stop ahead, we did
some uh line shifting on on the shoulders as well as a extra wide stop bar that sets back a little bit. Um I'm happy to report we haven't had any accidents since those improvements have
been done. So, um, you know, the the like the the county said, it is warranted if we if if this committee chooses to go forward. Um, it would be a
cost sharing to to the uh town. Uh, they would pick up the cost and corre um Allan and uh, Chief, correct me if I'm wrong. They would pick up the cost for the design and any kind of acquisition
of property or anything that may need to be there. But we would cost in the actual construction of the light. >> All right. First and foremost is you know people's safety. Um but secondly,
if we did it, even though the improvements that we made now appear to be safe, let's say we don't move forward with the light since one was now recommended, if god forbid there is another accident at that intersection, are we now risking do we have any
liability exposure because of it? >> I just play an attorney occasionally. I'll turn around to >> the legal attorney. Again, most important, God forbid, we wouldn't want anybody to get hurt, but but it it seems that the new improvements are are are sufficient. However,
>> the TOR Claims Act recognizes that defense allocation of resources. So, you only have so much money and you have to make a decision as to how to spend that money. So, you would have a defense. I mean, that's not a guarantee, but that would be a defense to not making the
improvement or just taking other steps and, you know, making what you thought were reasonable accommodations would would protect you. I mean, you can't prevent getting sued as the mayor knows, but the jail would raise those defenses
and probably be successful. at the town. >> What What period of what period of time has passed since the last accident there? Have we gone through four seasons? >> Probably at least three. I don't think there any of this No, definitely none in the summer. Was there any in the spring?
I don't think so. >> Yeah, >> that you'd probably be immune to liability under these circumstances, but can't guarantee it. One other improvement that I can tell you we can do, and Al, I don't know if you've seen this, but there's a intersection sign as
you're heading west that's obscured completely by trees. >> You want me to just go over there with my clippers >> here? Okay, I got the message. Is this something that we should maybe involve like the the uh the traffic advisory committee?
>> The resident could go out and do it >> because it that that is a really important sign at night >> because that that >> I'm on >> in the fog that intersection comes up quick. >> Until you're on it and then you try to make that turn and
>> Okay. Thank you. So, what do we think the appropriate plan of action would be? >> Well, I think we should have a discussion with the other two here as well. I mean, >> yes, for sure. >> I don't want to do this one. >> No, no, but at least we have more data now. >> No, I I I I wanted to bring this up
because we did get the report. Um, it was presented at the attack at the attack commit at attack meeting last week. Um so I wanted to make sure we have put this out for discussion. Obviously this could be further discussed. Um there are a multitude of
various options. If if you know you there was a concern of pedestrian um during their study they didn't see many pedestrians. Uh but you know one could argue well that's because there's no light there or there's no safe
crossing. you there are different pedestrian cautions that could be there. Um, you know, you know, I think we had a very healthy discussion in in giving um false protectedness either from a
traffic light, from a pedestrian crossing, flashing lights they have. Um, and and yeah, that that can be even uh the little launch flags that I see in Ritton Burough could give you a false
false security. Um, so you know, but I I think I I I Yes, I agree. This isn't a one one night discussion. Okay. Especially when two members are not. >> Yes. >> So, but I wanted to bring it up for the for to start the discussions. Uh so, you
know, we could have um >> And the public can weigh in as well. >> Yes. And the public can weigh in. >> Definitely. >> And when you had the TAC meeting, you had the county the people from the county was were there. Correct. Correct. Yes. They were part of the conversation the whole time. >> Just so people know it wasn't us around ideas. >> All right.
Announcements. Uh Scott, you got anything? >> Well, we did that. We did. >> Drive food pantry. Vic, you got any announcements? >> Nope. >> All right. Open to the public for three minutes. Miss O, >> just in your discussion about the
Northfield traffic light, do bear in mind that the most densely populated soontobe area in Long Hill Township will be on the Tifa site. You're going to be adding cars. When the traffic study was
done for that site plan, it did not include the intersection of Long Hill and Division or Long Hill and Northfield. So, that needs to be taken into consideration. Going to have a lot
more cars in that area heading south. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Got to hustle. There we go. >> Scott, please add to your list of >> What's your name, please? >> Excuse me.
If I had a beret, my name would be Curtis Lewa. But I don't have a beret, and it's got to be red. >> That's right. Every time. Uh Scott, to add to your earlier discussion
about this room, I got a broadcast email this afternoon from the superintendent and he said that their meeting on Monday night was mostly lost because of sound in this room. >> Superintendent >> h from the schools. >> Yeah.
>> Oh, the schools. Okay. >> George. >> Uh Alexis. George Alexis. I'm on his broadcast list and he was apologizing for the fact that they didn't have a complete recording of the
report of the auditor because of that failure and only a part of it was on their website or wherever they put it. At any rate, add that to your list of finding out what his problem was and uh getting it fixed. >> No, that's that's a that's a great idea.
They're another stakeholder. Um, a month ago I mentioned the Valley Road Bridge and they had a big dog and pony show in 2018, seven years ago telling us that
they were going to get on it and then nothing happened and nothing continued to happen. And a couple months ago, they updated the website and they announced that they were going to hold public information meetings in the fall of 2025
and they were going to get started on the project again. >> This is the bridge on near River Road. >> Yes. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> Also known as the church bridge. >> The what? >> The church bridge. >> Yeah. look. >> Oh, it'll it by the time they get it fixed in I think their current deadline
is 2031, it'll be a hundred years old. At any rate, a month ago, I said they have announced that they would be holding meetings for public information
in the fall of 2025. And there's only five weeks left in the fall. And their website as of this afternoon still says meeting schedule TBD, which means they're no closer to holding those meetings now than they were a
month ago. And which puts the whole rest of their new schedule in jeopardy. I mean, they're already talking about a six-year project from now. And it was seven years ago that they started. Do
the math. How long does it take to replace a bridge? >> Well, maybe not as long as it takes to dig a new tunnel under the Hudson River, but that's another matter. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you.
>> Guy has his hand raised. Um, Guy, you can just unmute yourself. >> We can hear you guy. >> We can hear you guy. >> Okay. Uh, so sorry I've been here the whole time. It's just I was at a place where I couldn't really speak. So Matt, I didn't want you to miss the important
announcement of the year because I know it matters to you. St. Vincent Depal is having their next blood drive on December 30th. And because of our lack of meetings between now and then, I figured I'd announce it tonight. So St. Vincent Depal blood drive December 30th.
I believe it's a Tuesday from 1 to 7. >> Thank you. And that's it. Thank you. So if anyone is on Zoom and is speaking, I have to allow them to speak and you the microphones in here. There's the
feedback. So just keep that in mind. Sorry. >> More to fix. >> Yep. >> You're on. >> Charles Rena Charlesitz Millington. One comment, two questions. One, property acquisition. Following up
on my first comment early in the evening. The township committee does not need to spend taxpayer taxpayer dollars on acquisition of property for a police headquarters. Longhill Township currently has enough
property to house a much needed police headquarters. Question one, my favorite topic, sewer sale agreement. Last township committee meeting, I asked if New Jersey
American Water has met all its contractual obligations under the sale agreement for the wastewater treatment system. You referred that question to the township engineer.
I took it upon myself to email the engineer with that question. Unfortunately, I didn't expect an answer and didn't get one. But I'm hoping you have gotten one on have they fulfilled their contractual obligations.
>> Yes, we got a letter last week. It's published on the website, right? >> I believe it's Yeah, the sore ban has been lifted. >> That's not the question, Mayor. >> Okay. The question is, has New New Jersey American Water
fulfilled all its contractual obligations under the sales agreement of our wastewater treatment plant. The lifting the sewer ban was one of the obligations, just one. So my question
is, the engineer didn't respond to me. It's been since the last meeting. What has he conveyed to you? >> I haven't spoken to the >> I personally don't believe it's the engine township engineers's responsibility to determine whether the township uh whether a private entity has
met their obligations to the township uh for for a contractual agreement. >> Well, that's what you said last meeting. You referred all my questions to the township engineer. So, who are you referring it now to?
to look at I'll look at the contract and get it answered to you at the next meeting. >> You know, it's been five years. What have we been doing? I'd love to have a contract with the town for $14 million
and not do anything. >> Do you question pay us 14 million? >> Question two. sewer ban. I read the posted October 24th, 2025 letter from New Jersey American Water lifting the sewer ban.
Ironically, there is no mention in the short vague letter of any involvement of the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection in this process.
Could any of you comment on the New Jersey D involvement in this sewer ban lifting? >> We didn't deal with NJ D. They did and they've told us it was lifted. So, >> do you have any documentation that
verifies they've conveyed whatever they had to do with the D? The letter was 100 words, very vague and short. >> Who's following up on this? If there's still a sewer ban in effect and they violate it, they're going to get fined on a daily basis. So,
>> by us or them? >> Do we need to take contractual litigation against them? We got to get this together. We're talking a lot of money here. >> They paid us. >> They paid us. >> I know, but I'm saying
>> I've opened them. You don't want to know. >> So, we don't know if they met their contractual obligations. It's been five years. What are we doing? What? Come on. You got to have better answers than this. >> As as Jack said, if they they put out
this letter, the sore band's lifted and it's not, they're going to get fined and the D is not nice with their fines. They're going to whack them. >> But mayor, I'm asking, there's other things in that contract besides the lifting the sewer ban. We don't know if they met him or not, do we? >> I don't have the contract in front of me. I can't go check. I can't go down
check. >> I think after 5 years, one of you or somebody should be assigned that responsibility. I wrote the engineer. No response. He doesn't respond to you. Who does he work for? >> Ry's gonna talk to him this week and he's gonna look at the contract. >> It's not his not his
>> Well, who I come on. >> This obligation on so much of the town 95% of the towns got sewed. How are they doing on that? Do we have that obligation? >> Have they met it? >> It's on the website. They've been >> Have they met the obligation? >> It's on the website.
>> I read that website. I'm asking you, have they met the 95% obligation >> process of doing it? It's that they put they gave us a whole schedule. You saw it. >> They're not there. You know, I am
displeased with the responses on this contract. You're referring to the engineer. Now, we don't know who you keep talking about the sewer band. There's other requirements in there. You don't know if they've met him. That's embarrassing as
a taxpayer. Thank you. Anybody online? >> Moni Patel would like to speak. >> So, I'm going to allow her to speak and mute. Um, >> mute your time up, Dennis. Miss Patel's turn. >> No, I didn't. I only used 2:15.
>> All right. Well, Miss Patel's speaking now. >> Maxi, go ahead if you can hear us. >> You can hear us. All right, thank you guys. Um, my question is a followup from two weeks ago when we talked about the best practices from Longhill. Um, some of I
reached out to some of you and you sent me over to a website. Still couldn't find the answers to the Longhill best practices audit that um, what you know, you guys referred me to a website. I don't know if it's behind a password, username and password, but still just,
you know, same ask if we could get that on the website for residents to find easily. >> It is on the website. >> It is on the website. >> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. >> It is on the website. If you go under finance department and financial
documents, you'll find it there for 2025. >> All right. I will look again. I didn't see anything and again I spoke to two of you and didn't get a proper response with
the document. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> 45 seconds. >> Is anybody else online? >> Anybody else on Zoom would like to make a public comment? Please raise your hand now.
>> Don't see anyone. Mayor. >> Perfect. Close for that. Dennis, 45 seconds. >> Just to follow up on the questions that uh Mr. Renowitz raised about the sewer,
you all should read chapter 22 of our general ordinances, which talks about the sewer system. Now the letter from the sewer company
says apply to us if you want a sewer connection after tape certain and we'll take it from there. But our ordinance section 22 says you have to apply to the town and
pay a fee which is 600 and some odd dollars as I recall. And >> all of that is probably obsolete because no other utility in town, telephone, water, electric, gas, none of them ha
and cable TV, none of them has to apply to a to the township for permission to hook up to a house. And yet for a sewer connection, the homeowner has to apply to the town. Now, this is pro probably all obsolete. >> It should be You're right. We have to
repeal it because >> but we ought to look at it and see how much of it can be cancelled. >> Most of it. >> Thank you. Add that to the list. >> Anyone else in public? Nope. I'll see I'll entertain a motion to dismiss. Oh, excuse me. Motion to return to executive
session with no further action. >> So moved. >> Thank you. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. Thank you everybody. Have a nice night.