Good evening and welcome to the Wednesday, January 14th meeting of the Long Meetal Middle School building committee. Um we will begin with a call to order and I'll ask each member to state their attendance for the record. Um Julie
Julie Morgan >> here. >> Thank you. Um Josh Lavine >> here. >> Perfect. David McGraine >> here. >> Here. Marty O'Shea >> here. >> Thank you. Uh Lynn Simmons,
>> you're muted. Lynn, >> can you Hi. Can you hear me? I'm here. >> There you are. Um Josh Lavine. Josh. >> I think you already got me. I'm still here. >> Okay. Sorry. And Kate Bean >> here. And Nicole Schwin here. All right.
Perfect. So, we are all here. That brings us to public comments. We have a 15minute time for that. I think we have someone here for public comment. I'm not 100% sure just for there's no there Bill if you're
>> perfect. All right. So, welcome. Name, address, all that fun stuff. Take it away. >> Um, my name is William Welch. I live at 25 Mebook Road in Long Meadow. Before I start, I did formalize what I'm going to present into a letter and so I just
simply wanted to put that into the record. So I don't know who I give it to. >> Um, >> you can submit it to me and we'll we'll get it to the full committee. >> Sounds good. >> Y Mr. Miles is right behind you. He can take it >> and I'm just setting my timer so we don't break any rules.
All right. Um, good evening. My name is William Welch and I am the president of Long Meadow Football, which includes players and families that have participated in our program since I have been president.
I'm here to advocate on behalf of a multi-sport artificial turf field at the new middle school. Um I believe and we believe that the durability, the longevity and the economics behind such a field um support uh that decision.
In order to discuss a grass field at the new middle school, you have to appreciate and understand the heavy use in the condition of the current field. The two heaviest users of the current field are Long Meadow Youth Football and
Long Meadow Youth Lacrosse. Youth football uses the field from the first week in August through the second week in November. We use it three to four times a week for practices that roughly run an hour and a half to two hours. We have junior varsity games every Saturday
morning uh from 9 to 12. We have three teams over 100 participants all showing up for every practice hopefully. Um and we spread that activity over the three current fields. In the spring, Long Meadow Youth uh lacrosse uses that
field. It's one of um several sites they use, but they have well over 100 participants in their program. They have multiple teams that practice multiple times and play games on that field from the last week in March through the first
week in June. That heavy use has meant that that field has had no time for rest or recovery. And the inability for the field to rest and recover means that that field has degraded to an incredibly deplorable
state uh as long as I have been coaching and uh have been active in the program. And to give you a real sense of what that's like, um that field does not have dirt. It has a pulverized grayish silt that sits on the top and it doesn't have
grass. It has crab grass and it has ragweed. And within a couple of weeks of our practices, we actually play in dirt. So, we will come off the field with dirt caked around our mouths, around our nostrils. We have raccoon eyes. When we
sneeze, we have dirt in our mucus. When we cough, we have dirt in our fleg. Sometimes we have had to pause practices because of the dust storms that get kicked up on windy days. So I tell you that because if a new grass field goes
onto the new middle school um project that heavy use will not change and the inability of that field to rest and recover will not change. And you will add a third dynamic to the equation which is while we are now spreading that
activity over three practice fields it now will be concentrated onto one field and that heavy use will be more concentrated and more unforgiving. And my point is that whatever the investment is that people may think about in terms
of a grass field that will be devalued so quickly because that field will get degraded so quickly. Uh but if it's an artificial turf field, it is a field that can endure that heavy use and that can also be a resource for the community
at large. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you for your time. Um if you want to give your letter to Mr. he can make sure that it could just as aformational item um for the committee and not necessarily in response but uh
we have compiled um the information that the building committee has reviewed over the last year and a half or so on this question. And so we have uh put together on our FAQ page, on the middle school project page um some information and resources that the committee or the
community could review uh regarding the uh potential for turf on that site. So >> great. Thank you. All right. I do not see any other public comment and no one is online. So we have some possible motions. Um I'll entertain a motion to
approve the minutes for the November 18th, 2025 meeting. Move that the committee approve the minutes from the November 2020 20 November >> 18 >> 18 2025 meeting. >> Thank you. We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second.
>> Thank you. All right. We'll go through and any discussion. Make a roll call. See if I can do this without asking Josh twice this time. Kate, >> yes. >> Yes. Uh Lynn, >> yes. >> Marty, >> yes. >> David, >> yes. >> Josh,
>> yes. And yes, Julie, >> yes. >> And yes for me as well. All right. Same for December 2nd, 2025. >> Move that committee approved the minutes from the December 2nd, 2025 meeting. >> Thank you. We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second.
>> Second. >> Thank you. All right. Any discussion? Seeing none, we'll move to a vote. Kate, >> yes. >> Lynn, >> yes. >> Marty, >> yes. >> David, >> yes. >> Josh, >> yes. >> Julie,
>> yes. And yes, for me as well. Thank you very much. That brings us to correspondence. We had a few items of correspondence this past uh month. The first, an email from Jerome Nan dated December 23rd, 2025. The next an email from Bill Deulio dated December 31st,
2025. And finally, an email from Link dated January 5th, 2025. And now we head into our OPM update. >> Great. Thank you very much. Wait for Marty to share screen and then we can talk about schedule. One second.
Okay. You guys can see that at home. >> Julie, Lynn, Josh, Ian, you can start. Yes. Excellent. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> All right. >> We'll jump one more slide there, Marty, please. >> Sure. >> All right. So, just this is just a high level schedule overview that we have
now. Um, the project is still currently on schedule, which is great. Uh, we are in the detail design phase now. uh JWA and their consultants have been working really hard um throughout this phase uh to move this project and design along along with Fontaine. Uh so this will go
um through um this winter and uh and we'll start uh some early construction work in the summer uh of this year. So uh we've been starting to talk about uh the early packages, what might happen, logistics plans, which we'll talk about uh during this uh this meeting as well.
Um, and we're also talking about the the pre-qualification process, which we'll talk about in another couple slides here. Um, but you know, we, as you can see, we've come a long way, and um, we still have a long way to go, but we're we're tracking well and doing a great job here. Uh, the next slide has a little bit more detail of the schedule.
Um, on the right hand side, uh, you can see we're in the design development phase. Um, and we have cost estimate packages that are out and, um, so those will have two estimates done. We'll have uh JWA's cost estimator do an estimate and Fontaine will be doing an estimate
and we'll do uh similar to what we did in previous phases um with having a a reconciliation meeting uh where we you know bring those uh two packages together. We look at the scope. We look at the the estimates that we have and then reconcile those two together to make sure that we're still tracking on
the budget that we uh have already approved in the past. Um so that brings us through uh basically through the end of February. Um and then from there we'll start into our our 60% um CD phase which is construction documents and then
uh and starting around May would be our 90% construction documents. Um and that's basically where we are on schedule. Um so if there's any questions but we are tracking well at this point. >> Any questions? >> The 32 months that's reflected up there.
Does that extend beyond the moving in period? Is that why it's showing? is July to fall of 2028. >> Yeah. So, what's going to happen is after that the kids move in and then you still have the demolition of the existing school, the fields and that type of stuff. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. But the school will
obviously be functional and and occupied at that time. >> The demos is going to happen once school begins or it's going to happen over the summer. >> Uh so right now I think we're looking hopefully to get that started over the summer uh with the abatement and demo.
Um and then there's the rest of the parking lots and the field work uh to come and we will talk about that. I think Jason you'll go through a little bit of the logistics on what's going to happen. Um >> just in terms of disruption of sound and >> yeah the classroom. >> Yeah. The hope is to have the building down and you know then we'll be just be
working on the fields and the parking lots at that point. >> Okay. >> Any other questions? All right. You got another step of this? >> Not with Oh, this. Yes. I didn't realize we've switched sides here. Um, so in the
in the last meeting or the past couple meetings, we've been talking about bringing on an IRA IRA tax consultant to help with um the rebates that are going to come back to the school. And because we're going geothermal, um there's a there's more detail that needs to go
into um the invoicing and and the applications for payment and that type of stuff that we have to deliver to the to receive those rebates. Um, so a tax consultant is is recommended for this phase because it is very complicated and none of us are tax accountants. So, uh,
we want to make sure we're getting as much as we possibly can um, from that source. Um, so we worked with uh, with Chad who put this out to bid. Um, Chad, I believe you reached out to three different consultants. Yeah. >> And we received one bid and it was from
uh, Energy Tax Savers. And Energy Tax Savers um, we've as callers have used them on other projects in the past and I know Fontaine is currently using them on their Awan project where they're going with geothermal as well. Uh they're very
good at this. They know what they're doing. They they're on top of it. So, um, what we want to do is bring them on now cuz what they're going to help do is, um, make sure that we have the correct language and the specifications when this goes out to bid that make sure that all the subcontractors have their
deliverables written in in part of the contract to make sure that we receive the information that we need in order to get those tax credits back to us. Um, without them coming back to us and saying, "No, no, we didn't expect this and there's going to be an extra fee for giving you this much detail." because it's not typical for um you know a
normal project. Um but now that all these energy credits are out there um you know there is more detail that needs to be involved with this. Uh so we did get um this proposal back and the proposal came back at uh 21,900
and um I went back and looked at some of our other previous projects that they've been on and it's it's in line with what we've been doing in other projects as well. Um, so it seems fair and reasonable at this point. >> And the town manager would be the signatory to the agreement with Energy Tax Savers.
>> Yes. Yep. Yep. So Chad will work with, you know, through Docu Sign. He'll get that signed off and we'll we'll get them on board if this gets approved. >> Okay. >> Anything else to add? >> Um, can I make a motion? >> Yeah, absolutely. Uh motion recommended that billing
committee uh recommended the town manager enter into an agreement with energy tax savers to serve as the IRA tax consultant for the middle school project. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. All right. Any discussion?
Seeing none, we'll move to a vote. Kate, >> yes. >> Lynn, >> yes. >> Thank you. Marty, >> yes. >> David, >> yes. Josh, >> yes. >> Julie, >> yes. >> And yes for me as well.
>> All right. >> And so my last piece here, one more slide, Marty. Sorry, >> that one. >> Um, this is the trade pre-qualification committee. So, I believe last meeting we talked about, um, shortly we're going to be needing to go out to bid for some of
these early packages. Um, and just like the district has done for the OPM, for the design team, and for uh the CM, there's a pre-qualification process, which you want to make sure that you're bringing in qualified contractors to be doing the work on the school. So, um,
Fontaine has gone through and the chart that you see below and kind of broken it up basically into two different packages where, um, we'd want to get the pre-f qualifications going. Um, so there's there's three different trades in the first one and then um a little over 12
to 15 in the second package. Um, so just like in the past, we're going to have um collers um ourselves as part of the um pre-qualification team, the JWA from the design team, Fontaine, and then we also need at least two members from the district to be appointed to the
pre-qualification process. Um I know we've had members who've been on this in the past and you know there's been um you know success in doing that. So I don't know if uh folks have had a chance to to think about or you know if it's something that um somebody wants to be a
part of or um how you guys want to do it but >> Yep. >> And these could be either voting or non- voting members. >> Correct. Yeah. It just has to be appointed by this group. That's all. Well, we'll jump into anyone jumping at the bit to volunteer before we go any
further. >> Here we go. Love that. >> I could volunteer as well. That's what I do. >> Perfect. Do we need to make motions? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Sure. Uh make a motion that the um that
Nick Dantis and David Grant serve as the uh pre-qualification committee representing the building committee. >> All right, we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Any further discussion? Seeing none, we'll come to a vote. Kate, >> yes. >> Lynn,
>> yes. >> Marty, >> yes. >> David, >> yes. >> Uh Josh, >> yes. >> Julie, >> yes. >> And yes for me as well. Thank you to you both. Appreciate that. >> And with that, Chad, we'll make sure that you know you're part of the conversations that we have just as from
a procurement perspective. >> For sure. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. And I guess there's a standard process for evaluating the uh potential candidates. >> Yeah, it's pretty similar. You were on the last committee, I believe, and it's pretty similar to what we did in the past. Y >> um same type of process. >> All good. >> Great. Thank you guys.
>> All right. Wonderful. Um that's everything. >> Everything in my hand. >> Great. All right. Fontine brothers. >> Yes. Thank you. So, we just wanted to give the building committee a good update on how our plans are shaping up. Um what we'll show is just very much
draft form. Nothing's written in stone. We need um you know input as we continue to make these refined. Um but good things here to chew on and uh really open up to any questions and uh either during or after we go through this. So
starting with just zooming out big picture the phasing we just actually touched on this a little bit. Um the first phase we're calling it is the mobilization that's going to happen this summer and really getting ready to build a new school. Phase two is actual
construction from bless you breaking ground to occupancy of the new school. Phase three is the demolition of the existing school we were talking about in the last phase. Phase four will be the uh final landscaping um after that. So,
what we really want to do today is just zoom in on phase one in particular. You want to go to the next slide, Marty? We're essentially breaking phase one into three of its own mini phases. Um, and we'll we have a slide for each of these
to really uh show the level of detail, but really phase the first phase 1 a is when we mobilize. We're looking at roughly June 1 up until um mid to late August when school is back. Uh phase 1B was is from that point forward till
roughly October 1st. You'll see for when we have the driveway opened up on the east side. And then uh the last part of phase three is swapping the driveway. So we'll get into each of these in more detail. So this first phase, phase 1 A,
we start in June and as you can see, uh Wworth remains open completely from Williams. Um no change to traffic there. Um, we mobilize our site fence around uh the site. You can see the pink dash line
going around the perimeter. Um, and we start working on site with um basically uh site clearing and new utilities. Uh, the utilities we're installing um are basically drainage and water for this first phase 1A that have to be relocated
out of the way of the um the field right now for mobilizing. There's also a gas line that cuts from Williams right to the school. So, that'll be installed. Um, and you can see a lot of them are installed on the eastern or lower part of the page. That's where the future drive is going to go because we're going
to get those buried uh below the drive. >> Jason, could I pause for one second? I'm going to go full screen on this. And if the folks at home, if if we lose the screen share, if you could let me know. I know it's happened to me in the past. So, let me just see what happens.
Folks at home, can you still see the full uh full screen here? >> It's a little smaller, Marty. >> Smaller. >> All right, I'll go back to where I was.
>> All right. Sorry about that. >> Yeah, take it away, Jason. >> No problem. Um and then there's a darker blue line goes from Williams um under that future drive to the back side of the um existing school to Wworth. We have to
connect the new uh water loop um for the future building as well. Um so anyway, that's our first major uh phase and actually a little bit on on Williams, you can see we're actually going to start as well the road widening. There's
a pole we have to relocate uh to make that happen. And there's also a new pole uh for the uh to relocate some telkcom that to feed the existing school uh on the eastern side of the new drive. But our plan will be to start uh getting
that prepped more along the tail end of this first phase and then um >> good to go. >> Yep. You want to jump to the next one? So, still in this first phase. At the same time, we want to u be tackling the
off-site improvement work. So, this is the uh road widening I was speaking of. We're adding turn coming from the western heading eastbound uh to turn into the site. So, we'll be uh that's the road winding. And then the
uh next slide, Marty gets into the sidewalks that continue east down Williams. This is just diagrammatic. It's not intended to show the actual sidewalk size or placements on the lawns, but just more for logistics. Um, so we'll be getting into uh refining the
logistics plans for each of these, but the plan schedule-wise is to hit these during the first phase during the summer while schools. >> Jason, how many new crosswalks are going in? Is it just Is it the one? >> I think it's just I believe it's just that one that you can see on the screen
there. >> Yep. I don't know if there is one at Ridge Road right now, Adam. I'm not sure. Okay. The sidewalk ends right there. >> Yeah, I don't think there is. I think it's all the way down at Grassy Gutter, I think. And maybe I'm not sure who to even
direct this question to, but communication to um the abutters, the homeowners that would have frontage along Williams Street where that sidewalk is >> we'll make sure that they're notified. Um once we have kind of the logistics
nailed down, uh we'll work with the town on making sure we have everybody's, you know, name and address and and notify them. >> Great. >> Okay. Okay. So, next slide uh bring us to what we're calling phase 1B. So, at this time, school is back in session for
uh next fall. Woolworth remains open from Williams. Um, so again, no change to the current pattern for drop off pickup buses, but now that the utilities are done within our fence, now we're installing the the uh new drive that's going to be on the eastern side, some
sidewalks, uh continuing with some um selective utility demo uh that's remaining inside the field, and our trailers are mobilized. So, we're expecting this to be roughly five to six weeks. And then go to the next slide. And Jason, just real quick. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
>> I was going to say maybe the same thing. So the yellow is the new road and then the solid green is the sidewalks along the along that roadway. >> Correct. Thanks, Marty. So the sidewalks that you see in dark green uh asphalt sidewalks that'll be along the whole
length from um Williams. There's existing concrete sidewalks and obviously we'll be putting in a sidewalk or crosswalk in the new drive that uh we're installing off of Williams. But those are asphalt sidewalks. temporary um for until obviously we're going into
the final landscaping and the final site plan near the completion of phase two. >> And then my other question is so where the fence line is that path coming from blockland and that rightand corner that will still that walking path will still be >> that will still that remain open uh
throughout all the phases. Okay. >> Correct. >> Yeah. And I could just want to note that this having uh both the driveways open during this phase. This is a a plan that um was approved by metal police. In fact, this
was u give the chief credit for um sort of thinking about maintaining both of the roadways. So um and LFD, Long Meadow Fire, would also be involved to make sure that we have the proper turning radiuses in place for Next question is what
happens when you get to the end of that driveway? Um is it just a big loop um while folks during construction time? >> Correct. Yeah. And actually why don't we go to the next slide Mark because the the drive will show up brighter on on the
click. >> There we go. >> That's it. >> So this is phase 1 C. So here is where now we've turned it over that new drive. It's open for use. We've now taken over Worth and so yes to answer your question
the drive will become a loop at the end. Okay. >> Uh of the new drive. >> So this is diagrammatic uh we we have to refine it um for making sure the radiuses and everything are are coordinated and correct. This is really just to show the the the plan and the
intent for how we're going to handle that. Can I ask and this is possibly a question for principal um for us instead uh what does that mean when it comes to drop off and pickup? What are sort of because we're sort of at the back corner
of the school that is currently there? Um so is the intention that families will use that for drop off and pickup and what would that look like? So the plan is that would be for all bus routes will be going through that um
this the eastern drive as well as pick up and drop off from Williams. Now Wworth will remain open except there's one important thing to just talk about for this slide is uh this month period we have to take roughly half the parking
lot on the Wworth side the western lot to relocate some drainage and sewer. So, we're going to try to do that as fast as possible. But you can see on this slide, the parking lot is roughly cut in half just for this month. >> Which month is this? October.
>> October. Yeah. >> Okay. So, it would be >> Okay. >> So, we'll have to maintain the new yellow roadway will be, to answer your question, it will be a pickup and drop off spot not just for likely not just for buses, but also for vehicular
traffic as well. >> Students will enter the building where? the cafeteria where the plate where the like black top is by >> so the cafeteria is up by >> Wworth um I believe we would and Nick I think Lee said we'd add a key fob so we
can scan in and students can enter through um it's like rooms 9 and 10 in the back >> where the back >> um yeah it's to the left of the modulars >> okay um and what does that mean if that
part of the parking lot is closed off by October. That's roughly around conference times, evening events. Will we just move those? >> Yes, I have. So, we rely on parking on the field as it is when we have events
because we do we already don't have space for staff and families. Um, so I will have to get creative with doing things um at the high school as long as it's not um you know, like open house can't be at the high school. But we would we would figure something out.
We're going to get creative um during this time. >> And there's still enough parking spaces in that lot even when it's partly closed down for all staff members. >> Well, we talked about I think that there might have to be some spots created within that yellow area for staff parking and they can enter through the
rears. I think just between, you know, the the partial parking lot we have up front, the existing and then in the back they'll be able to to make it work and it's only for the month and then and then that full parking lot comes back to the back to the school. temporarily stone an area to the I guess the west of
the yellow that big sort of >> it could be. Yes, it circles around the school. There's bike racks there and maybe they just need to be moved that we'll Fontaine will be able to figure something out as far as getting some additional parking. >> Yeah, that wouldn't be a problem. >> Yeah, this will definitely be the the the trickiest phase in terms of parking,
right? Y this one month and that's why we're going to try to you know we're going to try to beat it but um you know just being realistic is what we want to plan for >> um cuz then you'll see the next slide what is really the kickoff of phase two. So now that parking lot is completely
turned back over right starting in November. Um and now we're just completely contained to our job site. Our fence is just building the building. Um and that's when we hit the ground running starting with foundations. Um you can see our construction access roads are within our site and all our
traffic is coming from the southwest uh western side of Williams. We will have an emergency gate um kind of more near you can see it's it's near the new yellow road um towards the back of the school. >> Is that the note there that's calling it
out? >> Yeah. Okay. Uh go to move your cursor left, Marty. >> To the pink fence, Marty. There's like a little dash right there. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, it'll be uh emergency rest gates uh that we'll have there um just for uh emergency access only, but those will
will be there and locked. >> Can I just ask how much space is between the fence and the building over there? >> Not much. >> Good question. >> So, I'm only thinking for um fire drills, for example, about half of our building does exit the two doors by the
end of the gym. And so I would just want to work with LFD to figure out our um exit points for drills. >> Yeah, we started talking with LFD and police about kind of emergency access and all that around the building and and
exiting the kids. So they they'll just have to make sure they keep enough clearance between the fence and the building there to to allow for egress. >> I just foresee my August PD be like my um you know goal will be to make sure everybody is
I know things are going to change and this is not the first time I've experienced this where the parking lot and field are becoming the new building, but it is for a lot of people. So, as long as I can just give them enough um make it feel normal, like they start the year with a big packet of stuff, that would be great.
>> Yep. >> I just want to mention that um Fontaine is always working from the last set of documents we were able to give them and we're always moving our documents forward. We did recently shift the building, the new building five feet um
um to the south which will help a little bit. Yeah. Towards Williams. >> Um and I think in general, just so people look at home or looking at this know that you there's always a little bit of this is diagrammatic um and they're probably little things that are >> not quite um um up to the standard at
the final site plan. So don't >> and that'll be part of the permitting process. They're going to have to get, you know, approval from fire and police to make sure that they have safety measures in place and that the building can evacuate if needed and everything is is safe. >> Perfect. >> One thing I think is really interesting
about this phase is this is where the school will begin to experience separation of vehicular and bus traffic potentially depending on how we end up organizing things. But you have now two routes. So that could begin to feel very different. Right.
>> Yeah. >> And part of this is too, so the existing parking lot would now become essentially a loop. So folks can come from Wworth, drive around the parking lot, drop off, and then exit from Wworth and that just becomes that loop. Um, and then obviously the drive is just the opposite
on on William Street. >> So we're hoping that the buses or planning I should say, not hoping that the buses will be using that the yellow line the entirety of the year, not just when we're working underneath the parking lot. Correct. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And just one other thing to note, too, is that new drive in yellow that's being
put in place, that is where the new drive will be going. So, we're not doing the work twice or anything. So, there'll be a there's going to be a binder that's going to go down, which is basically the layer under the permanent um asphalt, the final coat essentially um that they'll be driving on, and then once the
building is ready to be turned over in the field, then they'll do that final coat of the uh of the asphalt for that drive. >> I'm sorry if I have so many You have to plan >> and I know that the plans will keep shifting and changing as you guys go and I know that everybody is already very
focused on thinking about making sure everybody stays in contact but I think that like plan 1 C and that is is in October that's a very big month for students walking and biking as well. So just uh that continued communication not
just among the team of people in the room but making sure that as much information as much as possible is getting out to families and parents which coordinating um since they'll be changing plans for folks just to ensure that we have >> absolutely >> as much space for student safety and
sort of pre-planning to know what kids know what they're supposed to do, grown-ups know what they're supposed to do, etc. We'll make sure Nicole has a packet that she can sends out and the drawings will be further along than what we're seeing now and it'll be a little bit cleaner and and easier to read and there'll be, you know, arrows on there and and verbiage that helps with parents
and all that for for drop off and kids walking and everything. So, we'll make sure Nicole has that that you can send out to all the parents um that are coming. >> Good. >> But can we could we also Marty can we post information somewhere so parents know there's like a page they can go to on any given day to get the latest?
>> Absolutely. I think I think it'll be have to be dynamic regular communication because especially the first couple of months that there'll be shifting patterns. So, >> right. >> Um that that's a great idea. >> And we'll typically do advanced signing in place on site as well. Just just so
you know, you've probably seen it for road work is coming up soon here just so that people who may not be tuned in uh you know, they're also getting that reminder before you know, we show up. So, it's not going to be just all a sudden one day we're here. We'll try to we'll try to get some signage up um well
in advance. >> All right. >> Um that was it. >> So, >> all right. Is that everything from your end of things? That brings us to Jones. >> Okay. I'll pick up here today. Um so, our goal today is to share uh an update
on the exterior materials. Uh last meeting we reviewed some of the interior materials. Um just in general I'll explain as you remember from the earlier phase we developed the documents in order to develop the the project budget.
Um and in the earlier phases of feasibility we were developing an understanding of percentages of materials so that we could put in place a budget that we could work with. And at every phase of the project we revise and and detail it a little bit further and
then we again check to be sure that our budget is aligned. So that means that the the design you will keep seeing um revised versions of things as we get further and further along. Um at earlier in the feasibility phase we remember
reviewed different uh approaches that we might take conceptually and we settled on what we refer to as the warm approach. Um and we shared the materials that would be in that. Uh, and we talked a little bit about um the that the majority of the building would be made
out of brick. Um, but we would also have what's called um uh glass fiber reinforced concrete panels as an accent. and the value of that accent which is shown here in the the slightly greenish tinted um material. That accent because
we have a a large building to break it up into sort of make it more readable as more than uh just more diverse and more interesting so you can kind of read the program. We use those at the connectors between sections of the building. Um and
then we also talked about using um concrete masonry block um on the large volumes that are very you know sort of bigger walls sort of as a cost-savings element and a little bit of metal panel. Those are our dominant materials on the exterior of the building. Um so now
we're going to go into much more resolved uh design but again it'll continue to shift as we detail it further. Um, so if you go to the next slide, this is just an overview and we're going to go into each of these phases with with more detail, but I want
to explain that also what we do after feasibility is we go back to the district, back to the faculty, we review the program inside and there's sometimes shifts. So windows change the the whole program can shift a little bit between feasibility and um design development.
it will not shift likely after this phase, but that's part of why there's a bit of push pull kind of going on. Um, so what I'm going to do is talk us through the materials and we're going to look at them in in closeup. Um, and then Christian is going to kind of take us around the building and talk about u how
they play out. So if you go to the next slide, let me talk about some of the materials here. So these are on the left renderings from our 3D model. Um, so this does show the sort of the level of detail we've come to. Um, and it shows
uh we start here at uh a typical classroom wing, just a piece of a classroom wing. And I wanted to start with that because that is the largest area of the the school as a whole. But we have a twotory mass for both wings, academic wings, the seventh eighth wing.
Um, so sorry, sixth, seventh wing and the eighth wing. Um, so this is going to be the the kind of the defining textile, you know, texture and feel of the project. Um, so you see that we're mixing um masonry here. And for those of
you who are more physical, you can look to the right and see some samples of these materials. Um, we can visit them later. Um but what we are what we've done is we've blended three different um um ochre colored
masonry uh brick. Um it's a Norman size brick, slightly longer and thinner than a standard brick, so it feels a little bit more elegant in some ways. Uh and then we are trying to create a sort of a a vertical banding at the window. So we've aligned the windows and we're putting an infill um between those that
kind of allows them to sort of read as one. So it just doesn't feel like a bunch of punched holes like a hotel does. Um and then you see on the south elevation we also have um the sun shades and we're trying to align the color of the sun shades and the color of the windows which are aluminum clad with the
trim of the roof. We have um standing seam roof that's going to be a mid-graay tone. Um so those are all kind of aligning and we've anchored it now which you hadn't seen previously with a gray band of brick at the bottom. Um and there's a little bit more detail in
another image to show that it's a the velour darker color here. Um and that uh the two right hand side color that have a little bit of um kind of opolescence. It's an interesting brick and that becomes a band uh we call the water table that goes around the building and
then there's a granite base and the granite base is really separating the brick from the found the footing. Um, and that allows us to be sure because the granite is less porous than the brick. So, it keeps water from moving up into the masonry. So, those are helpful.
Um, and that's those colors really are the the dominant colors I think in the building. But you don't want to just have the same thing repeat over and over. So, go to the next slide. Um we also have uh at in our earlier renderings we had been wanting to really
signal the entry to the building and we also wanted to we have the challenge on this that we have students getting off um uh on the east drive and we have people arriving from the front of the school who are the visitors to the school and we've wanted to be sure we
make a signal to both that both feel like they're entering and they're welcome to the school and that there's sort of a connection to those students. So the canopy is something that we wanted to spend more time divine decide um you know uh uh exploring and developing. Um so here you're seeing
that we're using the canopy which is in metal in front and you'll see larger renders of this um as uh an accent color. So we have a kind of a a light green and there's an example over here um that um becomes the uh metal paint
color. And this is a a a particular company that we've worked with before on the canopy. So we have to stay within their range of colors and and you find different materials. You have different kind of breadth of palette. So as a public project, we have to be
um open to the possibility that we might not get exactly the product we want. So we uh we we we are trying to show the intent and then we will have to remain flexible as we go through the process. Um, and there's some things we're determined about and some things we have to be able to flex with. But that canopy
has a limited palette and we like this green. It kind of suits what we're where we were before. So, we're kind of keeping that look. >> Um, and then you see that darker brick at the base. >> The one that's over there is the a is that the one that's aged copper?
>> Yes. Okay. The monitor might not see. >> No, that's curious if that was the copper. >> It's the name is aged copper which is softer green. It's a soft green. It's a funny name, right? But uh yeah, so it's a patina, but it doesn't really have a coppery patina,
but >> pass. >> Yeah, you're welcome to pass and run. >> Which >> so why don't we start with the back green and then I would say this is another one because this is a little heavy. >> This and this. Those are the three that
I'd say we can start with. >> So as they go around, can you explain one more time what's going to be passed around? So this is the the that first image we showed this mix of three different colors. >> And we also take one of those and we use
it in singularity at the admin and that's what you're seeing here. Golden dawn smooth. >> Um and I can pass that around just so you get a sense. But in general that's the temperature. So it might be helpful to to see that. Um, and then the next one there, these are very similar, but
there's two textures of this ebonite smooth and it's ebonite smooth. Um, and this is what I was saying is at the water table and in accent on the admin part of the building. Um, so they
look they're slightly different texture, but we we're interested in using both of them. >> When you're saying accent, is that the one that where it says C? >> Yes, that's perfect. Thank you. >> So C and A are the same color just slightly different texture. >> C.
>> So C and E. Sorry. C E. >> Yeah. >> And then this piece of metal is the color that you see on the canopy. >> This is the same one. The >> the slightly different >> that's on the >> that's on the on the bottom at the
water. >> Okay. I saw. And then going around is the the green that is uh proposed for the canopy and the storefronts. So that those tie together, >> right? >> Okay. >> I like that.
>> Can I can I ask you a question? >> Is this like this is the color scheme you get or you ask for input on the color scheme and also either way can you tell us more about like why you chose those color schemes? >> Sure. So in feasibility, we showed two generally two different approaches. A
kind of what we call the cool approach, which is a red brick with um darker blue accents and a fair amount of of cream and then a warmer uh uh palette that would be more of this ochre color. Um and they were both kind of just trying to show a real contrast because we kind
of need to always branch in the narrow. So, we offered those two options and the committee uh agreed that the warmer option felt interesting and right. We showed as president center um uh hope I'm saying that right again. >> Center Elementary >> Center Elementary and some of the we
were also very drawn to the um the geology of the area. This is a project that's always we've talked a lot about the sandy soils of this area and looked at those cross-sections. So, we're trying to kind of anchor and connect to the region that way and connect a little bit to history and take a little bit
more of a um a um an approach that would fit in to a location that has a lot of residential property. Um so, there a lot of homes. We wanted it to feel appropriate. We broke the mass up to make it feel like it's not one giant building, but actually kind of a series
of buildings even though they're all connected. And this is part of that general overall approach of trying to keep it warm and um friendly essentially and rather than um to go with a a modern um a cooler approach, a red brick
approach or an approach that had a lot of metal in it. So we were trying to keep a a durable cost-effective approach. Julie, if you're looking at the slides, either in our packet or on the screen, the the aged copper color is
very different in person from what it would look like on the screen. Just in case that's the color that you're looking at in >> Yeah, >> that's a tricky part of this process. >> Yeah. And and we'll go through I appreciate your question about what kind of input I'd say in general, we're
always developing these things. We're always working on things that we find need more work. Um, you know, Marty has raised the point about being sure that we're drawing people to the entrance. So, whenever we hear comments, we we try and continue to work towards those comments and address them. um that to me
is a little bit more useful than a blanket, you know, I like this color more than that color because, as I say, as a public project, you know, we're trying to make all these materials work together and we have to remain a little bit loose to the the circumstances that we're going to find ourselves in based
on on what is uh ultimately the uh the selected material. Um so we have to have three equals of everything in the project. um and that can be quite challenging. So, so instead it's really more being sure that this overall
approach is working and if there are things that you really are are uncomfortable with, let's talk to us and explain why so we can kind of come up come back with other ways of approaching it. >> Does that help Julie? Yeah. So, I I think it's just
helpful to understand like where you want our input and where you don't. And then also like how we're supposed to explain to people in the town like the color of the school is not I'm I'm not saying I want to change the color of the school. Um but I think it's something that people will ask us about and so
kind of being able to explain how we came to those and like >> who in here is giving input I think is quite helpful. >> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um so in this next slide um you see that we bring in that um glass reinforced
uh concrete panel. Um that's the uh kind of teal color. I'll pass this around so you get a feel for it. So this is a rain screen product. Um uh it's held off from the envelope of the building so the moisture can move behind it. Uh, and we
have a lot of control over the pattern of that. And we're, you know, you you'll see that what we've been working on is a is working on the window pattern and the pattern of that panel. And we'll probably continue to work on it. I'm not sure we're 100% there, but it gives you the feel for it.
>> Um, and that is really breaking up the volume so that it doesn't feel like it's one giant building of yellow. It actually helps to communicate where the entry points are. >> Um, and >> I like how that looks a lot. >> Yeah, that's nice. And then um you'll see that we have um a little bit of color in the windows that's very subtle
that also helps. So wherever you see that we're using the storefront in the windows and the door so you get that accent again from the canopy. >> That was my next question which I think you just answered. But so the color that's around the windows is that same glass reinforced cement panel.
>> No or it's the green that we just passed around a minute ago. >> It's the green we just passed the metal copper >> right one at the GFRC areas. Right. The windows within the brick will be just a darker gray tone.
>> Okay. And wait, say that again. >> So the windows that are surrounded by >> you can see there on the left are going to be that aged copper. >> Okay. >> And the storefront windows above them >> will match. >> Okay. >> Right. Exactly. So that whole element
reads as a unique >> the standard windows for the rest of the project >> will be a different color. >> And what's that >> we're looking at that is and you um if you see on the right the aluminum pearl gray. >> Yeah. >> Um so that's what we would aim for both
the media center and all of the classroom windows and the office windows. >> Okay. >> Ties to that darker gray pan gray pattern. >> The windows are going to have that kind of a grid pattern. The windows um those are very large windows. So yes, so the goal there is to have some operability
and and break in the glass. Yeah. So um so uh it's really hard in a digital presentation to represent groundface block. So we're gonna pass around some some samples and it's an equity. On the interior, we can use a polished
block, but on the exterior, we're typically not. Um, so what we're seeing here, and this also we have to be open, but I'll pass this around as a as a just an example that I'll pass to playing with these two. Um,
>> uh, uh, we have this happening at the auditorium and Kristen's going to show you more details on these as well as at the gymnasium. Those are big volumes. Um, and we pair it with a metal panel. Um, and then sometimes you're keeping two options
open. Um, so this is a um >> Can I pause your Dory? The So the two that you're passing around, >> this is the ground face block. >> That's what ground face block looks like. >> Yes. >> And and um what your which of these would be or we don't know yet.
>> The one in your right hand is the one we are preferring because it has a little aggregate what makes keeps it more interesting. Um I'll show you that formed brick formed uh uh block as well in the next slide. Um which is
unfortunately we can't have aggregate in it. So it's a solid color. So those two kind of work together. But at the gymnasium we're just using the the aggregate yellow. And we're trying to stay close to the same color as the um the brick but separated a little bit. So that's why we think the darker a little
bit better. So those ground basins, those are a little bit more of a close-up view of brick A that we would see on the facing or >> ground face block. The big concrete, >> the big ones. Gotcha. Thank you. >> 8 by6 >> around where the auditorium and the facing. Yeah. And you can see up there
the closeup shows you, you know, kind of a a rendered version of that. Um then you see around that window we have a metal panel uh Lucabond or Reabond. It's just different manufacturers. And that's a champagne color,
>> right? And that kind of ties in with the uh the fascia of the uh the roof system. >> Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Next. >> Can I just ask some questions? Sorry. On this slide and the prior slide. >> Yes.
>> Can you hear? Okay. Uh on the prior slide, um were you you were showing in the picture the uh surface area for the path? And I don't know if that's part of um something on the right or if that's like a later conversation. >> That's a later conversation. We're only
looking at the building materials. >> And those are probably more reflective of different types of material than than they are specific patterns at this point. So >> Okay, perfect. And then the second question is on this page or the next page, doesn't matter. The window grid,
is that going to be inside the window panels or is that going to be on the exterior of either the exterior or the interior of the window? >> Oh, it's um it is the frame that is holding the glass rather than uh holding a spacer within the glass if you're
thinking about it that way. >> So, you'd see it on both the exterior and the interior L and the glass would be kind of in the middle of the of that frame, >> right? And the the the Okay, does that make sense? >> So, So, I guess what my real question is,
uh, is is there going to be any surface area that's exposed on that on that grid that needs to be dusted and cleaned and is a spot for like >> debris to catch? >> Excellent question. >> Yeah. I mean, I think no more than any
other window on the whole project. I mean, just the this is really the frame of the glass. If that whole thing was glass, then it you know, that window would become untened. because it would just be such a large piece of of glass. >> So, they're actually separate pieces of
glass within that aluminum frame. >> Um, yes, it is a it's a horizontal surface. Um, but just with the course of rain and weather, I I don't I've never seen anybody dust that before. >> On the inside, you you'd have that the
frame you'd you would >> you'd have a little bit of a shelf also. >> Yeah. >> Again, I don't know if I've seen that dusted, but >> Right. And again, you do need those brakes for a variety of reasons. One is to break down the size of the glazing and the other is to create operable areas of the
window as well. So most of it is fixed and some is operable. >> Um >> Okay, thanks. That answers my questions. Thank you. >> No problem. So, uh, here we show the auditorium and on the left you see something we're exploring that will take
a lot of design effort to explore because it's it's a it's a a kind of a a a random parametric process. Um, but what we're thinking about doing is because the auditorium is so large, breaking it up with some shadow feature.
So, we're using a a shaped block and mixing that with the ground face block. So you can the ground face has the aggregate, the shape block does not. So I'll pass around. These are they're not as exciting uh feel, but what's exciting about them is they create that shadow
effect. And there's a variety of different shapes. And I apologize, we forgot to bring the bunch of foam blocks that we were given by a manufacturer to play with. Um and you see here, this is again, you'll see in a larger rendering what that impact is. Um on the right hand side um there are just some
sketches just to show you how much control we have. We can have a lot or a little. Um and we just wanted to give you the idea of what we were going to continue to explore with this. If if if you agree that this is a helpful idea. So now I'll pass it over to Christian to
get into the big picture views. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, this I I mean I think it helps to go through those materials a bit in detail and then kind of back up and see >> see them in concert with one another. >> Um first, let me back up. Has anyone met August?
>> Oh, who we brought from her office. He snuck in here next to us. So, August has been spending a lot of time on the exteriors and and these renders and uh we wanted him to meet the committee and and have you guys meet. Um, so, uh, again, this is looking at the front entrance and as as Dory
mentioned, we've got the the mixture of the ochre bricks over on where's it's labeled A. Um, and so, uh, we have a lovehate relationship with these rendering softwares. Uh, they're amazing because they can really quickly give you an idea of what, you know, a pretty
helpful idea of what the building will look like. It's not what it will look like in real life, right? I mean it there are imperfections to it and especially with something where you have like a varied brick um it doesn't pick up on that texture very well. But you
can also see like on the two versions of the a one of those walls is slightly in more shadow than the other and it looks like a completely different color. That will actually happen on the real building. So it's a nice thing to keep in mind. I don't think to the extent that you're seeing here, >> but um that is why we're introducing
some of this uh detail work and shadow lines is really to help um use that to it really helps bring the the brick to life. So you'll see that over on the um where it says Long Meadow Middle School again on the first floor there. That's mostly the administration wing and then
up above is a series of small classrooms and offices. Um, and we're introducing what we call a kind of a corduroy pattern where you just push the brick in and out maybe half an inch. >> Um, and so it's not a different color of the brick, but it just adds a little bit of shadow and depth.
>> Yeah. >> Um, and really it really brings it to life. So, um, again, as we mentioned, we have the lighter brick on the top, the darker brick on the bottom. Helps anchor it. Um, the other thing I'll call your attention to here is the canopy. Um, we've been struggling with this canopy for a long time. Um, it's always seemed
like a great idea. It's really helpful to have an outdoor gathering space for kids where they're protected from the from the rain and the elements. Um, as Dory mentioned, you know, we've got that drive just going down the right hand side of this view right here. So, the
canopy kind of comes out from the side of the building so that it draws people towards that front entrance. Um, but often these canopies can end up being these very dark, really kind of not welcoming spaces. So, this is actually looking at a product.
Um, this one often it will have like a cow wall is the company name. It'll be a little bit more white than what's shown in this rendering. Not quite as glass-like, but it's translucent, so sunlight will be able to come through it. Um, which is a really nice feature
when you're putting something in front of your building so that instead of it looking like this dark shadowy place, it's got uh it's got some daylight coming through. >> How how clear will it be? >> What's that? >> How clear is it? >> So, you won't be able to see through it, right? It'll it'll kind of have like an
opaque white feeling to it, but the sunlight will come through um for sure. Um, so yeah, it's a great product and and they actually have a they um partner with a different uh engineering firm so that you can get these kind of pre-engineered systems.
>> Um, so that which is really helpful because if we had our structural engineer design this, nothing against our structural engineer, but all of those members would be four times the size that you see there. >> Can you speak to how that holds up as far as because it's out in the elements when it comes to spots, streaking?
>> Yeah. This is like what this is the only thing they do. So they're used to doing bus shelters and school front entries. And so it's a it's a um aluminum um that won't rust or degrade over time and and they've got a long track record of you
know public projects doing this. I think it's likely that we will incorporate the um columns into some kind of a base at the bottom or at least for some of them and maybe even try and incorporate some bench um aspects to it. Um so I think it can all you know
>> and that opaque um I don't want to say glass but the opaque glass that that also doesn't >> streak or spot or other things that require >> no that you'll see it and they had a bad rep in like the 70s and 80s. um it would
sometimes yellow over time and so that got people to uh shy away from using that product but it's really improved a lot since I would say like even the mid 90s so for a long time now. >> Um and so yes it's stands up to uh to
solar degradation and all that. >> Does it have any features that would prevent uh nesting birds? >> That's an interesting question there. I mean, we can certainly be sure for the the all of the tubing is um is tubing
and not like a wide flange. So, there's no like ledges for them to uh you know get nests in there. But that's a good question. We'll certainly keep an eye out for that. We're showing this angled up so the front is a little higher than the back and a gutter at the back and
then the other so butterflying from the building down and and all the water's coming down kind of at the in the second row of columns that are closed tubes. But you you do have a gutter there that's catching water and that >> reason I've asked we've had to add
spikes to some of our new entrances. Yeah. But I guess that was my other question was it >> in the rendering it looks like a flat roof, right? >> Yeah. And it's it's >> and I I worry about snow. Like how is that you know, right? >> Flat roofs in New England,
>> right? >> It's it's pitched at So for every 12 inches you go out, it's 2 in down. So it's it's a twoin. >> So snow will Yep. >> So snow will slide off of it. >> And there's a gap between the canopy and the building. And there's a green space between them.
>> Oh, green space as well to catch the >> Right. >> Yeah. >> So, because that's more of an opaque glass, I'm looking at um Nick because I'm thinking cleaning again. Um what does what does something like that look like as far as cleaning goes? It's not
really a window, but also it's out in the elements, which means it can be getting dirty or debris or >> Yeah. I mean, I'd be curious if when a bird does fly over and leave something on it, what does it look like when you're standing underneath it as far with the >> Yeah. And how does how does cleaning something like that work out? What does
that even look like? >> Um, >> we could also I mean, Graanby >> Yeah, we've done one at Graanby Elementary that's been there for >> perfect >> a while now. About eight years. >> I think with the slope, uh, that really
does help with getting >> Okay. things to shed off of it. >> Great. But great questions. >> Um, all right. Any other questions for that front entry view? So, this is coming around the building. Um, again, now you can see the canopy in the
distance there on the left. Um, and this is uh the parent drop off and pickup area. So, this entrance will only be open at the early morning and late afternoon. Um, and then again on the left is kind of that administration wing. And then on the right, uh, we have
the media center on the first floor. And then above it, uh, are the science classrooms. Um, and I don't know if there's too much to cover here. Very similar, um, you know, materials that Dory walked through. The GFRC again over that entrance, that glass fiber
reinforced concrete. Sorry, I use that acronym a lot. Apologize. Um, and and again, you can see the water table down below. So this gives a better idea of again and
this is a early uh approach to this and and we can vary this pattern uh pretty considerably. So um would appreciate your take on that. But um again the the auditorium mass um and the uh
introduction of these shaped uh CMU units again that are 8 in x 16 in um really I think will add a lot to uh to this pretty large you know portion of the building. >> Yeah.
>> I like the corner sort of approach to it. It draws the eye which is really good. I I know we've talked about it a little bit before, but definitely something that starts above the door line for just so as not to create a challenge accepted situation for daring middle schoolers.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. The other thing to keep and you can't really see it here, but so right now what we're showing it's a mix of two different shapes. One of them is um kind of like a wedge. So it's more like a shed. So it doesn't um there's no like
surface to grip onto, right? It's like a shingle. Um, and then the other one is at a slight angle in the left to right direction. So, we can, um, arrange these in a way where there really is not much of a, you know, there's never like a flat part to grab onto or start
climbing. Um, and mixing those two different shapes, um, really comes up with some pretty fun, uh, approaches to to how this all works out. You have a question? >> No. >> No. Okay, >> great. So, this is the uh north side of
the building. Um this is the uh entrance that will be used uh after hours in particular for the gym uh and auditorium and cafeteria. Um on the left here we have our music classrooms. On the right are um health classrooms and all PE and
then the GM on the far right. Um, and again, we're introducing a new canopy element here to uh again provide some weather protection and call attention to this uh this northern entrance. >> Is it just the angle of the photo in the
rendering or does that go does it connect over to the It looks like it goes down and then back up again towards the building. Is that correct? >> Exactly. And that's actually what the one in front will do as well. And that's so that we don't shed water into the building right at the door. um but try
and collect it uh a little bit away from the building while still having the um can it be open and feel very welcoming. >> So there's sort of in that center trough area a gutter of some kind that moves things to the side of those columns. >> Okay. >> Yeah.
>> Does it make sense to have that canopy angle out to match the angle of the hardcape? >> You've already played with that this afternoon and we can go back and forth. We'll show you both options. Uh we thought it looked a
little too busy. Um >> Okay. >> But it's >> Yeah. Yeah. We played with that same idea. >> Okay. >> Great. And this is coming around further um with the gymnasium. And you can kind of see the um that's I guess shipping
and receiving that you're seeing in the background there on the right. Um, but here again with the uh larger CMU 8 by16 concrete masonry units. Um, and then uh some of that uh aluminum uh metal siding
at the corner to highlight the window. Um, and we'll probably have that also at the um clear story up above. You can see the break between the two different roofs. Um, will be uh windows up there and and some metal paneling up there as well. Um here we did not introduce the
shaped uh CMU elements. We tried that. We thought it looked a little too busy. The other thing to keep in mind is that uh we are imagining that this larger wall that you'll see there on the right um will be used by kids to you know throw balls against the wall. Um and
that's fine with this uh CMU material. Um so it seemed like this this mass was holding its own as is. Mhm. >> Miss CMU, is that the one the smaller squared panel of the T? Okay. Thank you.
>> And I, you know, again, not sure we've really found the one we're perfectly happy with yet. >> So, there's a lot. >> Yes. >> So, now we're coming around. Now, we're on the kind of west side of the building. Uh looking towards the east.
This is uh the outdoor classroom space. Um we have the uh sixth grade wing on the right um with the sixth grade classrooms as the smaller mass um on the far right. Um and then uh you're looking towards the kind
of main central stair um that you'd see as you kind of come into the building through the main entrances. Um, and so again using that uh glass fiber reinforced concrete uh for that uh stair
uh area for that connector piece um and some nice tall uh storefront windows there um that can go past the stairway. So really letting a lot of light into that area, a lot of transparency in and out. Um and then the classroom wings on
the left and right. So this is backing up even further and looking at it as you know on the construction documents we'll see a 2D elevation. So this is kind of like a an in between of the two. Um a little bit like a 2D elevation but with with a little bit of perspective that that
helps. Um, but you can see kind of how the as Dory mentioned, all the wings feel a little bit distinct, um, but still all relate to one another. Um, and that was something that we were really striving for with with this approach. >> And then also how the GFRC or sorry, the
glass fiber reinforced concrete is breaking up those masks as well and sort of letting them not, you know, just keeping it from being too big of an expanse. I think that's the last slide. So, uh, questions, comments, feedback.
>> Any thoughts? I think it looks good. Interested in seeing the materials as they continue to move forward. Um, as we get more images and a little bit more detail, anything that we can add to community websites is
also always helpful. Um even if you have images of particular materials etc as you get a little closer to >> right what we like which ones we'll end up with >> yeah if we have a good feeling about this we can alter that master image that
people have seen and show an update of that >> um and start to render u perspectives like this and share these that people can see. We're also probably in, you know, we'll soon be doing another site review because there's those questions about materiality in the site and how
that's going to look and how they integrate that it helps to get this to this point so we can combine the two. So, having just gotten to the um DD cost estimate set, what we're really focusing on now is cleaning up those documents for the MSBA submitt and being ready for
the cost estimate review process, which could impact, you know, um you know, how much of the metal panel we have, things like that. So, there's a conversation that happens at this point. So, um we're we're even though these are the fun things to look at, it's those massive documents and getting comments on them
and working through that that becomes our priority right now. Um and then uh we will basically coordinate with the site plans a little bit further and then I think in uh after this deadline with the MSBA we'll probably be looking at
kind of bringing in some perspectives that show the the site materials and the building in the background and kind of help people to understand that I think which has been a big question as well show more of the specifics of the turf field and how that's evolved. So, >> okay.
>> The MSBA uh board doesn't approve any of the there's no approvals that we're waiting for, but you do send them the DD documents for their review and comment. >> They give us a long list of comments on and and a lot of things have to get resubmitted to them that we've already
submitted. about anything that's changed, say in the um in the uh the special education programs for instance, we have to re-report all the square footages and we have to just keep up to date all the information we've presented to them including the the project budget. Um so all of those things go
through them and they they will share back comments about things and it's interesting because you get comments from Fontaine, from the MSBA that just help us to evolve the details in the drawing so that the construction set is as accurate as it can be. Um, and we're at 30% design roughly is generally how
you think of this moment. Um, with, you know, 70% still ahead of us. >> All right. Next steps and meetings. We have a I'm guessing our next meeting is what? February 11th tentatively. >> Yeah, that's second Wednesday. Yeah. Is that the 11th? Yeah.
>> Yes. Anything we should be particularly planning for or expecting >> to address at that meeting? >> That'll be a big one. So just last week we submitted the DD cost estimate to the estimators and that was a huge deadline behind us. It was really nice. So
Fontaine's looking at that right now. PMNC our cost estimators are looking at that right now. Um again we're having these constructability reviews from that set. Um, so we'll have the reconciliation on February 4th is when it's tenatively scheduled for and that's
like an all day meeting where the cost estimators go through and they say, "I thought there was 200 square feet of storefront. I thought there was 225 square feet of storefront." You know, like where did we miss that? And for every single it's very detailed. Um, and
at the end of that, you don't want them to arrive at the same number, but you at least want them to, you know, acknowledge that they've seen the same project, they've got the same quantities. They might have different considerations of, I think concrete's going up, I think concrete's going down, and that's fine. Um, so we'll have that
reconciliation on the fourth. Usually there's a little bit of back and forth after that to, you know, we'll make a few changes right away. um they'll revise their numbers, but by the time we have that meeting on the 11th, we will have the DD cost estimates for you guys.
And with that, we will also have, as mentioned, we'll have another binder going to the MSBA. And so, we'll very very quickly walk through that. I don't think there's anything too earthshattering within it, but we need approval for both that that whole MSBA submission, which is that cost estimate
and that binder. >> All right. >> And then that goes to the MSBA. the very next day on February 12th. >> Okay, that was a quick turn. All right, so we'll start looking for things by February 5th then and look them over in time for the February 11th meeting. >> All right, any other things to note
before we head out? >> Just can you quickly mention some of the upcoming meetings with town officials and school staff that they have in the in the next couple of weeks? >> We have uh uh we're doing another kitchen review. probably tomorrow we have a custodial review with the
district and custodial staff and Nick uh coming up this week as well. Um after that town >> next week we have a landscape meeting uh to talk about all things except the turf field. >> Okay. >> And kind of dominating discussion. So,
uh, and really getting input on things like the, um, loading dock, uh, which is not super exciting to think about, but a very tricky space with a lot of a lot of different requirements. >> Um, another thing that we will, if we can to
vote on on that February meeting is um proprietary items. Uh the MSBA requires a vote from the school building committee for any uh items where you want one specific manufacturer. So we've received a lot of information from the
district on kind of the security systems in particular so that the cameras for this new school will be the same as the cameras that you have in your other schools. Um so we'll need an official vote on that proprietary item. So >> okay. And when do we return to um design
of interior spaces again? >> Um we'll start focusing on that again and I'm and we'll be sharing having some internal reviews with the district leadership because they wanted to see different options of things um and and show that to them. And uh we're also um
meeting with um special educ uh to take a look at that those spaces in particular because they're kind of complicated and media center. So we have an upcoming meeting on that. um really diving into both furniture and equipment and the specific function of those spaces. Um uh so I think in the next
month we'll be working a lot on those interiors again. Um I don't know depending on how complex the next meeting is whether we'll we'll hit that with the school building committee at the next meeting or not because of the cost estimate review. It depends on how complex that becomes. Um, another thing
I want to mention is that in our timeline, it's between DD and 60% when we had talked about um doing uh uh setting up a meeting with planning. Uh, and I think we'll take a look at that schedule and be sure we're lining up for
um planning review um because there were some things that had to be officially checked off before we could go past 60% with the town. >> All right. Excellent. Well, thank you for coming out tonight and we'll see everybody again on February 11th. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> So moved.
>> Second. >> There you go. Second. We have a motion to adjurnn. Thank you. All right, we'll take a vote. Kate, >> yes. >> Marty, >> yes. >> David, >> yes. >> Lynn, we have Josh. >> Josh, sorry. >> Yes. Yes.
>> A nice double answer. Perfect. And yes, for me as well. Have a great evening. Thank you.