Mr. Chair, we're good. call this special meeting to order. Tuesday, November 25th. And uh we will all stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Take roll call. Jeremy Brainard >> here. >> Joe Kadana, I'm here. Mike Harding >> here. >> Tim Kesh
>> here. >> Mike Conu missing tonight. Okay. Approval of the agenda. Everybody take a look at it. See anything we need to change or adjust or whatever? >> Otherwise, we need a motion to approve
it. >> I'll make that motion. We have a motion by Tim Cash. I'll >> second. >> Second by Jeremy Brainer. All in favor? >> I I opposed. Motion carries. Approval of the minutes. There are none. Public hearing. Land use application 202508
Harvest Pond fourth edition preliminary and final plat. We open it up for discussion. Two minutes. I would ask you give your name and your address. We have no one here. Okay. We'll need a
motion to close the public hearing. But actually, Mr. Chair, I'm going to do a little background on this public hearing. >> Okay. All right. >> All right. If you don't mind. >> Sure. >> Uh thank you, Mr. Chair, and good evening, uh Planning and Zoning Commission. Uh thank you for being here for this special meeting. Um, as for the
public hearing tonight, uh, the background, Brian Bugamman, uh, who we know, uh, and has been here several times already, uh, from BJB Holdings LLC, Outlot B, Harvest Pond, Second Edition,
submitted land use application 2025-08 on October 31st, 2025. The subject property platted area is 6.29 29 acres and it's proposed to be
block one lots 1 through 10 and outbot A harvest pond fourth edition. Staff have conducted the review of the harvest pond fourth edition preliminary and final plat. Uh Bugerman has provided uh the data
required per city code 152.21 21 data for preliminary plat and city code 152 uh22 data for final plat. Uh this staff then proceeded with the issuance of the mandatory 10-day public hearing. Uh
notification was advertised in the Lndale area news. Um 47 mailers went out to uh residents within 350 ft of the property of discussion tonight. Um
and then the review commencing November 11th 20 or that it was mailed out on November 11th. Uh if public comments are received during the notice period, staff will present them at the planning and zoning commission on November 25th, 2025 public
hearing. Um Mr. Chair, y uh the city did not receive any public comments during the notification process. Okay, I do have uh Brian Bugamman here today.
Uh Brian, if you want to come up uh just give us a little overview of the preliminary and final plat and then if there's any additions uh prior to the site plan uh review would be the perfect time uh for the the commission to ask them. So uh thank you
Brian. Thanks for coming down tonight. >> No, thank you and thank you all for your time. again, Brian Bugamman. So, I submitted the preliminary final plat as long as as well as the site plan. Um, and so I think you've all seen that in the packet here. It's pretty much what was previously shown to the planning
commission, to city council. Uh, we do have updated rendering and then just say more detail on the civil side from what you've previously seen on just the uh the original site plan, but there's really been no substantial changes to what was previously presented. >> Okay. Anybody
have any questions for Brian while he's here? >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> Now we can close the meeting. >> Thank you, sir. >> The uh public hearing. >> We have a motion to close the public
hearing. >> Motion by Jeremy Brainer. >> I'll second. >> Second by Mike Harding. All in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carries. We will move on to presentation decision. We did that.
There were none. Approval of the consent agenda. There is none. Old business. There's none. No new business. Consider approval of land use application 202508 harvest pond fourth edition preliminary and final plat. >> Uh thank you, Mr. Chair. Um based on our
previous agenda item uh with the request of land use 202508 harvest pond uh fourth edition preliminary and final plaque was reviewed prior to this agenda. Uh the cons uh the well the commission should consider public comments received prior
at the meeting and um staff is recommending approval of the final uh the preliminary and final plat. So Mr. Chair, if there's any questions from the commission, uh, this would be the perfect time. >> Guys, look through it. You got any questions on it?
>> Um, two questions I have. It looks like they're vacating the road, 10th Avenue, uh, from Birch down to Ash. Um, do we need to go through formal vacation for that or >> No. So, um that's how the application
was submitted and then um upon further review it was determined that that 10th Avenue Northeast right ofway was vacated. Okay. Um when when the villages of Lawndale was constructed, >> okay, anybody have any other questions?
>> I got one more. I was looking through. Okay. >> I then I'll leave you guys talk. I'll show >> That's okay. No. Um, and on here, I'm trying to think if it was on the first attachment, second attachment. Those seven lots on the north side. Um, looks like they're 37.
Is that I saw it somewhere. >> Yeah, that's about what they come to most of them cuz I looked that up too and put a magnifying glass to see what they were exactly. >> They're like 37. I don't remember if it was on the first attachment and the second on >> there's a couple looks like 48 48 48 37
37 37 and 57 um the two corner lots I could not tell what they are but I know those are different because they've got the setbacks from the sides. So, >> and that is correct. the the nine lots specified on the northern part uh range
from 51.78 ft to to the minimal of uh 378 ft. Okay. >> Now, is that hard and hard and fast right now? Are we accepting that with part of the plat or that subject to change?
Uh well I guess like developer can Brian can speak but um our conversations have been that um that's been the concept since uh the beginning and um correct me if I'm wrong but you don't have any intention of of developing those um we're not providing through the plans uh
installation of any utilities to service those sites. So if someone wants to come in and replplat those at that time >> yeah I would certainly could. >> Okay. I would hope so because 37 feet you aren't going to fit anything on that especially if you have a well you're
going to have a minimum five foot set back on each side. So yeah homes >> 48's going to be awful tough to do anything with. So >> okay that was a question. >> Those are just for patio that the way you have it submitted is for patio homes that those can be changed if if they be
different. So okay that was only my only two questions. Okay. Anybody else have anything? All right. To B >> consider I'm looking for a recommendation uh to approve the uh
pre-land marinary and final plat for land use application 2025-08. >> Is this going to be a go-ahehead to start building in the spring? from from us. Yeah, it's up to the council, but I mean
>> uh correct. Um so we've got another public hearing on the 22nd and then um these requests will go to the council at that time. >> Um we are working on a PUD agreement. >> Um similar to a developers agreement that we've used in the past. Um it kind
of spells out who's responsible for what. And um yeah, as far as I know, all indications are um if everything works out, construction in in the spring, >> but I mean what we're saying tonight, we
are giving approval for them to go ahead with this. >> That is correct. Yes. >> Okay, everybody understand? >> Yep. >> Okay. All right. So, we need a motion and a second on it. Motion.
>> Have a motion by Mike Harding. >> We'll second it. >> Second by Tim Kesh. Okay. Before we do this, I'm going to say we're going to have a roll call vote. And uh what I was always told is you should be able to
um justify your decision. Um so tell me tell us why you want to vote for this or against it. And that's everybody's opinion is is justified. There's no problems with that
whatsoever. Um I'll start. Um as far as I'm concerned, I have never heard more people against a project as this. Um these people that bought their houses
were uh told that it was not zoned for anything like this. It was we changed the zoning. uh if they didn't if they didn't investigate it themselves, their real estate agent should have told them what was going to be in their backyard. And because of that, I mean, I've never
had more people complain to me about a project like this. Because of that, I vote no. So, we'll start with Tim. You would go next. >> Um again, I I don't see anybody here complaining today, you know. I mean, there's no complaints. I think the
people have uh you know because it's always scary when something new comes in and and you don't know what to expect and I think you know with Brian and the council and you guys have done a good job laying it out there for everybody to understand it. Um there's going to be controls on everything. Um and I think
this is something we need. Every other town is doing it. Why can't Lonzo do it? New Market's got it. Montgomery they're proposing to do that. All the other towns and I mean we have to have different type of uh um housing for people. you know, we not everybody can afford to go into a $400,000 house and
stuff. Somebody got to start start, you know, out with nothing and and make your way through through it. So, but uh for that reason, I vote yes. >> Okay, Mike. >> I vote yes. And it's about the same thing as I'm I'm thinking honestly this
town needs it. I mean, we are a small community, but we are growing quickly. And if we're going to get the younger workforce in this area, we're going to need something that they can afford. >> All right. So, you're Yes, >> Jeremy.
>> I personally think that uh we need the more job market versus housing is my personal standpoint on it. Um, I also kind of side for uh a fact that I have
heard a lot of rumblings against it. Um, so I'm going to side with the the city, the people of the city and vote against it. So I vote no. >> So it's two to two. Okay. So we're two to two. Motion does
not pass. How do we handle it? Leave it at that. That's pretty much it. Motion failed. >> Okay. All right. Motion failed. B. Consider approval of land use application 2025-08 BJB Holdings LLC Harvest Pond Apartment
site plan review at 900 Ash Street Northeast. Corey. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The commission has been working with uh Bugammen since the September 4th, 2025 special meeting. The applicant BJB
Holdings LLC Brian Bugamman is uh proposing to build the Harvest Pond Apartments at 900 Ash Street Northeast in the spring of 2026. The proposed project will be a three stories consist of 58 units with 10
studio 15 onebedroom two onebedroom plus den and 28 twobedroom and three threebedrooms on 4.146 acres and plotting nine single family detach
detached lots on the remaining 2.144 acres of lot Bugamin will own the multifamily property and will sell the single family lots to single family uh builder or builders. The proposed multi multifamily
threetory 78,750 apartment will consist of the 58 rental units. Bugamman believes the uh the project um and believes that the project will be an asset to the to the lawn comm
community filling gap with the gap uh in the city um with the current housing needs. Uh these are market rate rentals and an increase to the city's tax base. The site uh and building details. Uh
this is the same concept or layout that's been presented uh since the beginning. Uh building size 63 ftx 430 ft by or 6 by 136t by 63x 73 ft by 278.61.
As you can see, it's an L-shaped um as you know, it's an L-shaped building uh running north and south uh with two detached garages totaling 5,000 square ft. uh pavement 72,132 square feet. The area around the new
building will be paved concrete on the north, east, west, and south sides. Uh and then bugamin installing a public trail connection between 8 and Birch to the villages of Lndale. Uh that trail is 12 ft wide
uh in that in the uh in the easement. uh road access um exit one ing ingress and egress access to 8th Avenue Northeast. As far as a sign package, uh there will not be any exterior building signs and a
proposed monument sign will be submitted in a sign permit at a later date. Uh exterior materials, fiber cement lap siding. Uh as you can see by the detail um in your packets, exterior colors,
platinum beige, burly brown, bristle green, arctic white, iron gray, black water, and desert Arizona desert. Uh side amenities. There's going to be an exterior stylish courtyard,
barbecue grills, uh fire pit, pet park. Uh land landscaping requirements have been met with the uh with the appropriate number of tree plantings at 38. Uh the lighting plan has been reviewed also by staff um and will not
uh exceed 1.0 0 lumens at any non-residential property line. Uh parking and loading. There's uh based upon our city code. Actually, what we're reviewing right now uh is required spots or parking spaces,
141 spaces on the plant or plan set. There's standard spa 59 standard spaces, three ADA spaces, 71 garage spaces. Um and then the proof of parking with 29 uh with a total of
162 uh parking spots on site. The subject pro property currently is vacant land uh within the harvest pond development. Zoning. The property is zoned as follows. previously B3 central business
and as our city administrator mentioned before uh which was approved of the planned converted to a uh approved planned unit development to allow an apartment facil facility and single family residential lots
uh utilities and grading uh storm water and drainage u that was approved by the city engineer and our public works director Mr. Dormfeld uh gave us the thumbs up also with his approval. Uh recommendation based upon zoning
requirements staff and the city engineer recommend the commission to consider the approval of the land use application 20258 with BJB Holdings LLC at Harvest Ponds Apartments site plan at 900 Ash Street.
So in your packet uh all attachments have been submitted. Uh there's a beacon layout or aerial photo. The the completed land use application uh payment uh full payment has been received. Um response to the PUD which the city
administrator is currently working on with the developer. Um the Harvest Pond Apartments design site concept exterior exterior elevations. uh the Harvest Pond Apartments plan set,
Alta and Lighting Plan, plus the engineers uh review. So, Mr. Chair, uh please open it up for questions. We do have, like I said, Brian is here tonight. >> So, Mr. Chair, go ahead.
>> All right. Okay, you guys, you heard that. Any questions? Do we want Brian back up at the podium? Not needed. All right. Then we would be looking for a motion.
>> Motion. >> We have a motion by Mike Harding. >> I'll second. >> Second by Tim Gash. Once again, we're going to do a roll call style. If your opinion hasn't changed or you have nothing else to add, you can just say yes or no. And uh once
again, I'll go do the same. I my change my opinion has not changed. I vote no. Tim, >> I vote yes. >> Mike, yes. Yes, >> Jeremy. >> Yeah, my my opinion still is is no. >> Okay. Does not pass.
So, okay. Our recommendation to the council is not to do it. It's up to them. We'll move on to other business. We have none. Anything
any needs anyone needs to add? And we need a motion for adjournment. Make a motion to adjourn. Have a motion by Jeremy Brainer to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Second by Mike Harding. All in favor? >> I I opposed. Motion carries. Meetings
adjourned. All right. Thank you guys.