Is the audio on? Okay. Hello everybody and welcome. I call to order this meeting Thursday May 8th 2025. If you could all please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the
flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God. indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Roll call. Brian here. Kyrie
Miller here. Tom B here. Jamesa here. And Scott Palava here. All right. Moving on to the approval of the agenda. Tonight's agenda goes to 10P. Um is there any additions, deletions, or corrections to the agenda?
Move to approve the agenda. Motion by Bava. Second. Second by Miller. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. All opposed. All right. Approval of the minutes. Consider approval of the minutes from the April 10th, 2025 regular meeting. Are there
any additions, deletions, or corrections to the minutes? Move to approve. All right. Motion by Miller. Second. Second by Palava. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. All opposed. All right. There are no public
hearings. Presentation of citizens petitions and comments. Comments limited to two minutes. So if you aren't on the agenda, now is your time to speak. Okay. Approval of the consent agenda. Uh consider approval of the canvoid product
application submitted by smoke. Um, these consent agenda items are considered routine and non-controversial and are to act upon by the city council in a single motion. There will be no discussion of these items unless a council member or citizen so request in
which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered during new business. Does any resident want any of the or does any resident want the item removed for new business? All right. Seeing none, councel motion
to approve the consent agenda. Motion by Bava, second by Wormcursion. Any further discussion? All right. All in favor? All oppose. All right. On to old business. Consider approval of the ordinance 2025-330, an ordinance amending chapter
90 of the city code concerning chickens. Corey Hanza. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, and good evening, uh, city council. Um, consider approval of resolution 2025-330, an ordinance amending chapter 90 of the lawn city code concerning
chickens. Staff uh reviewed and discussed ordinance 2025 3330 and ordinance amending 90 of the Lndale City Code concerning chickens with council at the April 24th, 2025 meeting. The council recommended the following
changes to the new ordinance. addition of a select one in the application fee. Uh just a heads up, uh the online application, it's just a drop-own menu to select that fee. Um where fees are located. Um
addition property owner uh signature if different than applicant at the bottom of the application. Update section D, remove the requirement of certified survey and only require a site plan. Section D, remove insurance writer for additional
coverage. Um, next on the list, removal of section E, inspections, and then update to section G, uh, change the setback from the principal structure from 30 feet to 20 ft. Uh staff received public comment
from resident Barb Peterson concerning the impact of chickens to the broader community, health concerns, order and cleanliness, and repetitive noise and issues with enforcement. That email was submitted uh to city hall on April 23rd.
And then she also requested um there was a handout on your table tonight. Also, she submitted an email on May 5th uh requesting, please send this to the city council members. Uh if the city uh council allows chickens in town, they really need to address bird flu and
perhaps institute mandatory testing if the state of Minnesota doesn't already do so. That was submitted by Barb Peterson from 713 Harvest Drive Southwest. As you can see in the packet here or the recommendation tonight, staff is
recommending the city council to review and discuss the updated version of the ordinance um concerning chickens. Uh staff has also updated all supporting documents associated with new ordinance. Once the uh council approves resolution
2025330, it will go into effect when it is officially and legally published in the newspaper on May 13th. Uh fiscal impact uh includes the ordinance publications and applications fees collected. The cost of enforcement is
unknown at this time. Alternatives do not approve resolution. Do not approve the resolution. And the second alternative is revise as deemed necessary. In your packet tonight is the uh updated draft
with changes for the ordinance uh city of lawn sale chicken application and the email submitted by Barb or by uh resident Barb Peterson. Mr. Mayor, thank you Corey. Uh Brian, I'll let you kick this off.
Um I'm gonna pass I want to hear from other people on this. I'm not your You know what? How about I start with Jamie? Where do you want me to start? Anywhere you want. Okay. The bird flu. Um, they don't last long to get the bird flu.
There won't be a need to test. We can do um a dead bird test. Make sure the flock didn't have something else, which would be called the narcopsy. Uh, sal manila. There's a lot of things that carry salmonila, so we won't scare everybody
with listing everything off. Um any other questions? Well, what what do you think about um you know the ordinance altogether? Ordinance all together. Um let's see. We forgotten
5B. The um runs are still set at 30 ft. They didn't get moved to 20 ft. Noted. Thank you. You're welcome. [Music] And 4C accessory structure may be converted into coupe
space, but the coupe area must be 40 square ft or less. So accessory sets on there. And there's people questioning whether or not we actually need to have them remove the coups and the runs
considering some of them could be used. other structures in the event that they get rid of their chickens. So, that'd be up to council's decision on that one. And then the big deal is the fees. Everybody's complaining about the fees,
which we can set this here. We can change anytime we want. Okay. Um, so do you want to uh consider a motion for a change on anything? 5B should be changed for sure just to
make it consistent with 5A and I'll leave the fees up to you guys. All right. Um, Scott, do you have anything? Um, couple small items. I apologize. I missed the the last meeting. I was ill,
so I didn't want to spread that around. Um, as to the fees, um, I understood that, uh, there was some citizens that, um, made comment about that here. Um, and as with any of our fees for licensing or whatever, it's a way to
cover the cost of uh staff time for for those uh operations, whether it's a a l a dog license or, you know, shed or whatever. Um, I know that uh some communities they don't charge for that. Those community communities typically are a lot larger.
They have a lot larger tax base. Thus, there's a little more wiggle room, a little a little more money to wash it. Um, so I can understand why that's the case. Um, as far as the logistics, the the
nuts and bolts of it, it's been hammered out, you know, quite a bit. Um I I the only thing that I I had brought up I don't recall if it got brought up at any any official meeting.
I know during conversations I had with the community beforehand. Um, I was in favor of, you know, looking at this from a standpoint of is it possible that we could have done a a couple year trial, um, just to see how it worked just to
appease both both parties, we're willing to do it, but if it doesn't work, um, you know, so that we don't have people that would invest heavily in it, build the Taj Mahal, if you will, of you know, coups and runs and everything, and then for whatever reason, the city were to
um, um decide, you know, it's it's not working and now people have exorbitant amounts of money invested in that. Um I I don't I don't recall if that conversation ever took place at the planning commission level or not. Um
um you know, over the years I had many uh conversations with people um for and against it. Um originally I was uh I was opposed to it. Um, but as time has gone on and I've learned more about it, uh, that's why I made the point I was
willing to take a look at it again and because I know there's several communities that have had very good success with it. So, um, you want to be cognizant of people's rights, both, you know, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, property, all that stuff, too. So,
um, you know, the nuts and bolts of it. I mean, obviously Jaime's far more involved in it being on the planning commission, so I'm uh uh I'm in favor of it, but I do definitely understand the concerns of
others. I'm not This isn't just a I want to, you know, rubber stamp this and move it forward. I'm I I'm doing it with reservation or uh with u um what the judge say with prejudice. you know, that
uh it's it's I'm not 100% with it, but I still agree that uh there is there is some positives with it. So, I guess at this point I don't I don't have anything else on it right now. Sure. Thank you, Scott. Brian, are
are you good? Yeah. I mean, um Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's going to be people happy. There's going to be people unhappy with any decision we make, right? Um I think the chicken thing it's it's it's been a long drawn out conversation
um for many many years. Um you know, I hear the same thing about the fees. That's that's kind of the biggest thing I've been hearing about is the fees. Um you know, I mean, the people that don't want it adamantly don't want
it. And there's a lot of people in the middle that are like whatever, you know, I don't I don't don't don't get a lot of people saying, you know, absolutely don't. I mean, the ones there there's that vocal minority out there that says I adamantly don't want it.
Um, that's my experience. So, I'm I'm okay with with moving forward with something here. Um, you know, I mean, we had a good discussion about it last time. Um the the stuff you brought up, Scott, about a trial that was broached
during the conversation. Um nothing formally in the in the ordinance was was put in there, but it was a conversation that was had at the last meeting. Um I guess the way I I see that is, you know, and I don't know if people realize this because it doesn't happen very often,
but we can always repeal an ordinance. Absolutely. Yeah. And to step back, I just didn't I didn't want to, you know, ordinance is typically people's actions, not in uh it's not going to be necessarily for Oh, yeah. infra or not
infrastructure, but construction and and investment of uh significant uh right, you know, funds. I mean, you're going to get that in any case, right? because I mean we we've had shed uh ordinances out there that have
changed over time now that people are saying boy you know I wish I known that I could have done this now or you know I wish I would have waited um you know ordinances change ordinances can be repealed um in my mind I I I think maybe we should be a little more open to
repealing of ordinances from time to time um so I I mean, as far as a trial goal goes, I I I would say any ordinance you you propose is technically on a trial run because if it doesn't work, you repeal it. At least that's what what we should do. Doesn't mean that we actually
do it all the time. Um I I'm with Jamie. I kind of want to hear what people think about the fees. I mean, I I guess I don't I don't really know. Um you know, I wasn't involved. I I went to one of the meetings to to see the planning and zoning discussion about it. gone back
and watched some of it from time to time. You know, I haven't been I haven't gone back a long time to look at it. So, I'm open to hear what what everyone thinks. I know it's something that people are really probably most focused
on within this ordinance is is the fee piece. So, all right. Thank you, Terry. Um I echo the same thing where we can repeal it if it's not working, but I heard things from both sides. I understand both sides
of it. Um the fees has been something people have brought up, but again with adopting an animal or you know any kind of um dog licenses, things like that, um it's to help promote responsible owners,
right? And so people who do it the right way, like following the ordinance and things like that, would be willing, like if I wanted to get chickens in my yard, I would gladly pay the $50 because I understand that that goes back toward helping uh to show the responsibility
and for enforcement um of any issues that could come up. Um I don't like adding fees and increasing taxes, but I think on something like this ordinance, it is a a necessary thing. I don't know if it needs to be an annual fee.
Um I don't I would also like to hear more about what u Jamie's heard being more involved in the planning and zoning. I do appreciate all the work that the committee has done on getting this ordinance to this place and I'm for it. Um and again I respect
both sides and if it doesn't work out I mean with the changes I don't think there's as many fire um concerns anymore. So, since there's no warming lamps and things like that. Good. If I could, Corey, what or what is our uh
licensing for dogs right now? What is the license fee for that? Do you know? Uh, Council Member Palava, that's handled by the police department. Oh, it is now. Okay. Yes. Okay. I believe it's $25. 25. Okay.
And that's a threeyear uh two two year. Okay. The chicken permit is just a onetime fee. Okay. There's a cost for bee licenses. There's a cost for golf. There's associating a fee with a
services. I understand. I just for comparative purposes is all I was looking up. Well, but the ordinance is written as an annual annual renewal fee. So, it's not a onetime fee, right? Correct. show. It shows that right on the
appearance 300 and then the year at least 50. Mr. Mayor and council members, yes, it's an annual fee as far as I'm aware of if it hasn't. It's been changed from It was not at the last meeting. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to having a conversation about a onetime
fee either. Yeah. Like the initial $50 fee. The one thing we had is the coupe counts as an accessory structure and we charge $25 for an inspe accessory structure
inspection. So they could technically say it's a coupe, pay the 50 bucks and the chickens never show up. So we were trying to eliminate that possibility. we could put it on a change the uh accessory structure permit schedule
to make 40 square feet or less a smaller amount and then we could potentially make it so to talk about that for a second. What about because I know there's no inspection. What if we took a step back and say,
"Okay, yes, we do an inspection." That inspection that we originally had on there was intended to be for setbacks and to make sure you weren't over a gas line because Well, I'm not saying really doesn't like that if you put something over those gas lines. I'm not saying an
inspection to say, you know, necessar I mean, that'd be part of it, too, right? Or not not to say like, okay, show me the chickens, right? But looking at the structure to say that's a shed, not a chicken coupe, you know. So then you don't have that. Um
I don't know what what do you think? I mean, well, I I know there was a lot of discussion in planning and zoning about the inspection piece and there was a reason to say not, you know, but if we're talking about the cost, one of the things that we talk about with cost is not just the cost of processing the
license, but more or less cost of enforcement, right? Mhm. If you have the inspection on the front side, I would assume, and you know, it's not in every case, but I would assume then you're going to have potentially
less need for enforcement on the back side. Whereas, if you have no inspection on the front side, then you have a lot more potential because it is complaint driven. And I I I can't imagine a world where we pass this and we don't get flooded with complaints right away just
because there's going to be conflicts on this thing and there's going to be an upsurge of complaints at the beginning and it's just I I see it as a lot of a lot of time for our police force. How how many barking dog complaints do we get right now? Right. That's Yeah, I
know. That's my point is, you know, so this is um I I want to respect each other's time. Uh are are you done? Yeah. Okay. Sorry. It's okay. Uh one thing is is that I I had a really hard time um
you know, after that last meeting was with the initial inspections. And I do think that um you know, I looked at uh St. Peter's chicken ordinance and it it states on there $45 for an initial inspection, $5 a permit, and the permits
annual, right? So, every single year, five bucks, right? And I think that I think that that would help with the cost, especially the complaints that we have heard. But, um, that's kind of where I'm at with it. And what I like I
I kind of like to see happen is an initial inspection. I know we took it off this ordinance. um you know and hearing more about what had happened why we took it off I think it does make sense to have that initial because exactly what you're saying because you don't you don't want you
your neighbors that don't want them are going to you know complain but as long as they are to this ordinance you know at least they're well and and I think that initial inspection helps the people getting the permit as well right because
then if they get those complaints those Um, I don't want to say they're they're predatory complaints, but you're going to have conflicts and you're going to have people complaining because like what if they put I'm mad at my neighbor, you know, there you you have these neighbor conflicts and this is just one more thing to add to that. But what if
they what if they put it on their sideyard and say they got, you know, a different way that lay protects the people who are getting the permit, right? It's like, why didn't the city tell me? The city gave me the okay, so I don't know what you're complaining about. So, ordinance. They
can't have it in the sideyard, right? But that's the point. By having having it have it in when you get to the corner lots, the sideyard changes per neighborhood. And that's a big thing. Yeah. And you
know, I I look at uh item E2 on here. It says if the city is not able to obtain the occupants consent to enter the property, the city shall revoke the permit. And I had taken or asked for a clause similar to that taken out. But you can reward it where it says if the
city is not able to obtain the occupants consent to enter property for initial inspection, the city, you know, will not issue. Just won't issue. Yeah. Right. So I think that would clear that up. But as far as fees go right now, I mean,
even if we stuck with the $50, but I mean, it's going to be the same investment. It's just they won't get the initial inspection as written right now. So, they'd be paying 50 bucks just for Coops, but no guidance from the
city. So I think we should really try to entertain a motion to add initial inspection back and the initial inspection would be for a structural structure only structure and um and adherence to setbacks and
then you go and buy your chickens, you know, once you get the permit paid for for five bucks and get on your way. So, are you proposing the $45 then for initial inspection and then $5 $5 for the permit for the permit? Yep. And then
also for E2 to be changed to add initial inspection or the city shall not issue. So, I guess my question on that then would be who does the inspection? Uh, Mr. Mayor and council members. So,
this is very similar to, as you've mentioned, um accessory structure. This is very similar to our fence permit. Uh this is the building inspector. Uh the building inspector uh requires that property pins are exposed so the
building inspector can make sure he he or she has the correct property line so the structure is not inter or impacting the the neighbor's property. Uh that fee and our fee schedule right now is 6250 for a one-time staking inspection.
But to answer your question uh the building inspector conducts uh uh staking inspections So this would still fall to the building inspector. It wouldn't be but that's just for stakes. That's and then also he's uh he or she is checking for uh the actual setbacks
measuring off from the exposed pins the property line getting a point of reference and then going off that that property line 5 ft. So we're saying they'd have to do the pin inspection first. They'd have to have pins showing. Um, and if they can't
locate it, then they would probably tell the city inspector to stake the pins. That's where the 62 comes in. Yeah. Actually, just a correction, the city inspector does not locate the pins. That's where your survey comes in. That's where uh the resident needs to
hire a surveyor to come in and expose the pins. That's unless they can find them. I'm sorry. Unless they can find them. Yes. They can always go to hardware store. I tell a lot of our customers um or applicants to come in and hey, find a metal detector. Uh we'll
get a point of reference here and do the best we can to give you an idea where these pins are located. Um and it's in their hands to get that work done to move forward with the uh permit because I don't want to I mean I don't want to turn this into like a a giant
cost thing. That's the whole thing. And and that's why I think just constantly pushing surveys is just, you know, somebody's going to be like, "Well, 700 bucks to do a survey, you know, and I'm going to get, you know, 30 bucks worth of chickens and then buy a coupe and
everything and I got to pay for a survey." So, it's, you know, at least we have survey here. This is just a Yeah. Okay. But I mean I mean at least they're getting their options, you know, first and then last resort is well, go get a
survey, a certified survey because our our fee is you said $62 for that for that. Uh Mr. Mayor, as it stands at this time, this time with the fee approval or the fee schedule, the breakdown is as far as a one a
staking inspection is 6250. A site plan review is $80. So, but at this time with our process here, um it's just a matter of the resident going to the city of Blondale website, going down to the bottom of
permit applications, going in uh zoning, clicking on the chicken application, uh filling out the require or the application information, and just uploading a piece of paper with a box on it, 40 square feet with an arrow from
the to a makeshift property line of 5t. an arrow coming from the back of the house 20 ft and boom, it's done. And then um hopefully that resident puts that in the right place. Um I but there's no followup with any inspections
until um Jason back there gets called uh when there's a complaint when the when when the neighbor's complaining. So now I see why the inspection was removed. I mean I I'm I'm inclined to trust
residents, you know. I mean I'm not I don't want to come from a position of well we can't trust our people so we have to you know I mean I still think we should talk about the fees though. Well, if you're not doing the inspection, what's the point of 50
bucks? You're just paying, right? Exactly. But we have to consider, okay, what potential cost of enforcement, you know? I mean, just that's always the discussion about anytime we talk about a fee, the
reasoning behind it is to cover costs. It's not a money maker. It's to cover costs. Um, I mean, processing of the permit, hopefully people online. If there's no inspection, the processing cost is minimal. It's the enforcement
side that it's an unknown, but I don't I I mean, 50 bucks year over year over year, I can't imagine. Maybe the first year we have a lot of potential enforcement, but I I see I see it as a as a very quick peak and then a quick
drop and then a valley. You know, I would agree with the as the mayor pointed out about a reduced rate annually from a standpoint that also statistically we would know how many people because who who would have them and uh then decide they're not going to
anymore or uh it' be to be able to provide some level of tracking as to uh uh as to statistically you know if it's a small percentage is it you
Well, what does council want to do? We got a a long list of items we got to get through. Pick a number. Well, it looks like we got a motion for 5B, right? Yes.
Well, that's just the technical change. Yeah, from 30 to 20, right? Yeah, I'll second that motion. I'm sorry. Who made the first motion on that? Jamie Wood. I did. Okay. Motion by VPA, second by Wormcers. Any further
discussion? All in favor? I. All opposed. All right. Um so um I I do want to talk if we don't want to do an initial inspection then I want to see E2 get removed because
there's no point of revoking a permit if the city's not able to get the occupants consent to enter the property. that you're proposing to remove that completely or change the verbiage on it. Well, if we're not going to do the
initial inspection, I'd rather just see it removed completely. Yeah, there's no point in it if there's no inspection. Well, I mean, because the Scott, last meeting, just for clarification, last meeting it was
um I I forgot how it was worded. It was um if the resident it was something like if the resident uh doesn't let the city come in for compliance or access to their yard for compliance, then the city
can revoke the permit. But is that on the is that on the initial or is that over the after the fact? Because if you if if we are going to do an initial inspection, I would change the wording on it. Yeah. Well, that's why. But if we don't do the initial inspection,
but you still would have to have access for any complaints for enforcement. Correct. I think we talked about last time it had to be observable from from the complaints. From the complaint. Oh, okay. You complain, they come to your
house. If they can't smell anything, can't see anything, there's no warrant even go any further than that. was the original design on it. But from that standpoint though, then if the if you you can't that that's from a
distance, but what if uh then there's no way to verify square footage, any any measurements or anything at all? That would have been why we did the initial inspection. Yeah. And that's just for this permit alone. So like yeah um you
know um you know so say if you're going there for a shed or like a locate or whatever you're planning for that kind of stuff whereas this one it's like well you're not planning for the city to show up because they're not doing inspections and they're not like it's complaint
driven but you're to go from whoever's complaining's yard. So I don't really see the point of having that on the ordinance. I mean, I guess it's like any other law, right? I mean, I've got neighbors just across outside the city limits from me
that shoot off mortars all summer long. There's nothing that anybody can do unless somebody sees them shooting the mortars off, you know? I mean, that's just how enforcement of the stuff goes. Um
I guess I was thinking from a standpoint of if somebody you know they the complaint was made that uh a coupe was too large. Right. All right. So standing on the neighbors the neighboring property. All right. How can
you make that determination if the coupe is too large or not? Yeah. Well, how would how would the the complainant necessarily Well, it might be might might be obvious, but there's no way to there's no way to to quantify. You know, I you know, maybe somebody gets gets an app out and they can figure out a
measurement from a distance, but if we wanted to put a put a tape measure on it, you know, I'm just looking at it from that standpoint from No, I mean, yeah, it makes sense. But, I mean, I guess and there's there's other, you know, fallies on here to, you know,
I mean, if somebody's going to complain the coupe is too large. I just reason I would assume you're talking about a coupe that's way too large and it's obvious. Yeah, but could be the way that it's positioned. Could, you know, it could be perceived that way. You know, it could
have a really long side and really short side. Is it still, you know, 40 square or is it, you know, 50 square because it's a little bit, you know, it it it could be I'm not I don't want to play a devil's advocate and pick it all apart
either. I'm just I I but I don't want to tie our hands where all of a sudden now we can't enforce it. Well, and then you know if something ever becomes of it too, we can we can look at adding it back on to the ordinance
too. But I don't know. I just I don't I don't like how you know if somebody says, "Hey, I I just don't want you on my property." Because say what if what if the intent is actually to get back there and and look at blight but just because they
have chickens back there they can use that as an excuse and then you know I'm not I'm looking at you know a different aspect of it where it it protects our residents from you know not saying it will happen but potential harassment for
just even one resident you know um that's kind of where where I'm coming from and You want to make the motion? I can't remember what you're talking. I mean, you can make the motion too since it's one particular line specifically. uh
E2 and and like I said, if we're not going to do the initial inspection, then I don't think that should be on there. But if we are going to do the initial inspection, I just replace the garbage. But it sounds like we don't want to do the inspection. I feel like there's a
slippery slope of additional cost that comes with that inspection, right? You know, and I'd heir on the side of protecting property owners rights and the people who want chickens will
follow what's right for the chickens to keep them safe and healthy for I want to believe that that they're going to be responsible chicken owners. Well, I'll make a motion to remove her strike E2
from this ordinance. I'll second. All right. Second by Miller. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries. Is there any other items that we want to discuss? I
can pass around the table one more time. What about the fee? I think that's the last thing. Yep. Do we want it a one time fee, an annual fee?
The $300 was originally proposed as a lifetime fee and then we changed it to a 10-year. We could also put a cap on how much you're going to spend on your chicken permit. Like if you don't want to pay
the lifetime fee right up front, you're going to pay six years at $50 and then you're done. That would be an option. Scott, what do you think? I I don't have an opinion yet. I I just I'm trying to wrap my head around all
the different aspects of it. Yeah. being now that you know you're not doing it that doing a a permit not not going to do a a permit you know by annual something like that
for any uh an by annual fee you know like like a dog license or something like that I I don't think would be unreasonable um 25 every two years, something to that effect. I think that's what the the dog license was.
Just all I have right now, right? I mean, yeah, I guess I I'm mirroring it to the dogs. I mean, it's no more work from our standpoint other than
processing the paperwork. Great. I agree. Well, what do we what do we want to do? Pick a number. 20 25 every two years. 25 every two years. I'm not paying that. I'll tell you right now. I'm not going
to pay any fees to exercise my rights to feed my family. with fresh chicken and fresh eggs. I'm also not going to abide by your limit of six. I have six people in my family that leave me with one egg per per person in
my family every day. Tell you right now, I'm already going to fight on my roosters, which I can tell you right now, not getting rid of. I've got eggs hatching right now. would not be happening without that rooster. My kids love these chickens. My
kids are enjoying watching these eggs come out and these chickens hatch. So, I can tell you right now, I'm not the only one in town who has roosters. I'm the only one who's being harassed about my
roosters, and they're not going nowhere. So, all right. Thank you, Jesse. You're welcome. Thank you, mayor. Um, well, somebody entertain a motion get this thing going. I'll make a motion 25 by annually.
I'll second it. All right. First and seconded. Um, any further discussion? All right. All in favor? I. All oppose. All right. So um so I'll make the motion to approve the ordinance as amended. All right. Motion by Warersian. Second.
Second by Miller. Any further discussion? All right. All in favor? I abstain. All right. Motion carries. Just so nobody says there's a conflict of interest.
Got it. I I just want to make sure before we continue. Cy, do you have everything you need? to that. Yes. Uh I have three different motions here. Um uh Vipka worm rescription uh uh just a
grammatical update to 5B uh runs at 20 ft. Uh second motion uh E2 by Mr. Mayor the removal of that uh of E2 from the ordinance. Uh that was um uh Mr. Mayor Miller. Uh number three, the uh $25 by
annual fee. Uh motion made by Miller and then seconded by Palava. And then to wrap up this chicken ordinance, I have a motion by Warmercertion uh uh to approve with amendment and
second by Miller. All right. And thank you for everybody being a part of the conversations, you know, from our planning and zoning and the word Cory's put in and, you know, even Jesse and Joe and Pumper and everyone else that came up and speak and
and talked about it and, you know, I I hope that uh I hope that the residents really understand, you know, um we do care about both sides of the parties. We really do. Um, so let's just
see how this goes and uh make it better over time. So, uh, let's go to new business. Consider approval of resolution 2025-22, a resolution approving the 9 acre pond located within the Rezac Nature Preserve be named Hidden Willow,
Hidden Willow Pond, Cory Hinsa. Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor and Councel. Um, at the February 24th, uh, 2025 Park and Recreation Commission meeting, the board recommended staff to move forward with officially naming the pond at Rezac Nature Preserve with the Minnesota
Department of Natural Resources. Currently, the pond is listed as unnamed ID 6600810 0. Uh staff completed the required petition to change the name of the unnamed lake to Hidden Willow Pond and
submitted it uh submitted it with resol or and submitted it to Rice County. Uh Rice County is requesting a letter of credit from the city uh in the amount of $400 for escrow for the county attorney to start the
approval process. The process includes $46 to record the final naming document and a three-week publication of notice of public hearing in the Fairbolt Daily News Lawndale Area News Review and then in total $300 to run those um public
notices. So, uh, based upon the staff or based upon the park board park board work and the completed petition, I'm asking, uh, requesting the city council to, uh, approve resolution 202522 to get started, uh, working with
the Rice County Attorney. Thank you, Corey. Jamie, I started with you with the last one. I'll give it to Scott if you want to open it up. Yeah. Um, you know, been a long time coming. I guess you know whether it was an oversight or just uh
just you know when you think you think you're doing it all there it's how many times have we renamed a body of water in our community once. So I you know got got to do the steps but I'm I'm glad it's uh moving one step closer to being
official. Thank you. Right. So, we're the county wants a letter of credit for $400. And then do we have to pay for these these ads on top of that or is that come
out of the 400? That's coming from that 400 escrow. So, the county is going to hold on to the escrow money and then run the ads and then take it out of that like so they're running the ads. Correct. That seems ridiculous. Maybe that's why it stopped last time. The letter of
credit essentially a guarantee that we'll make the payment if we don't pay the invoice that they send us for the publications. Um they would pull the letter they would draw down the letter of credit just like we would for a development developer to have a a letter of credit
to ensure payment of expenses. Sure. I I get that. But um and the county attorney is adamant that this happens actually. bond is required, but they'll accept a letter of credit. Can't we just write them a check for $400? I asked 10 times. We've asked 10
times. Ask somebody else. This is coming straight from the state statute, whatever it is, statute. So, this is state law requiring that this is how it has to happen. They have to we we can't just put it in the Lawndale News Review and call it a day. We have to run
it in Farwell. We have to run it Okay. All right. Because the county is actually the public hearing. Gotcha. What a waste of time and money. Exactly. Probably why it wasn't pursued in 2016. All
right. That's all I got to say. Ki, I agree. It's a complete waste of time and money from the county level, but it is something that's been on the books since 2016. So, it'd be nice to get it finalized. and um our parks board has worked on that and Corey put in a lot of
work for it too. So, and a survey of the community was done to help name it. So, I think it's we just need to get it done and also being listed as an official lake now with the DNR. Um it's just a benefit to the community as we discussed at the parks board meeting, but I hate
spending that money and I think it is a waste. So, Rice County and state, we need to fix that eventually. We should be able to just run our own ad. Anyway, that's all I am. I hope they're listening. I'm sure they are.
Jamie, I think it's a long time overdue. And I had the privilege of talking with Pat Rezak a couple weeks about ago about this and she said they tried to get it classified as a lake when they owned the property and it is 9ome acres. The actual definition of a lake is 10 acres
or less. So, if we add to the shoreline and make that lake, that pond bigger, we could turn it into a lake. 10 acres or more. 100 acres or more. All right. Well, I'll entertain a motion.
I'll make a motion. Motion by Miller. Second. Second by Palava. Any further discussion? All in favor? All opposed? Motion carries. Consider approval of resolution 2025-23, a resolution accepting a donation by the Ldale Snow Wizards. Y
Ericson. Thank you, mayor, members of the council. Uh over the years, the Longdale snows have been very generous to the city and other nonprofits uh in the community and area. Uh recently, they donated $20,000 to the city to be dedicated to the fire department to offset the cost of the recently
purchased uh ATV, trailer, and accessories. Uh that cost $50,000. We've accepted a few donations uh since the beginning of the year. We all know that we can accept donations uh for the use and benefit of our residents per state statute 465.04. By approving the resolution, the
council is accepting the donation made by the snow wizards and agreeing to dedicate the funds to the fire department for the purchase of the ATV equipment and trailer. The fiscal impact to the fire fund uh is a donation of $20,000. Alternatives would be to not approve
resolution 2025-23 and then included with staff's report is the proposed resolution and then state statute 465.04 The snow wizards are here with along with firefie Joe.
You guys want a picture with uh you want me to take it for you or Okay. Uh let me pass this. Uh Brian, you got anything you want to add? No. No. Thank you. Okay. Thank you guys so much.
Thank you, Scott. I really appreciate the private public partnerships that uh our community has. This has been very great over the decades. Yeah, I definitely echo that. Um so I'll
entertain a motion for that. So motion by Miller, second by Palava. Any further discussion? All right. All in favor? I. All opposed? All right. Motion carries. We'll wait till the
end. Uh introduction of police officer Haley Van Thank you very much. All right, Haley and Jason, why don't you guys go ahead and come up here. All right, thank you. Members of the council, um, Officer Haley Ben Hubin
was hired as a full-time police officer for the city of Lawndale back in October of 2024 and started the field training process on November 4th of 24. Officer Van Han completed her field training process and has been on her own for the past few months. Officer Haley
Van Hublin received a criminal justice from Community College and worked for the city of Furbold as a community service officer and a police officer. Officer Ben Han also serves in the Army National Guard since 2021. So, it's been an honor having her
with department. Well, welcome Haley. Thank you. Um T, thank you for your service and thank you for working with Jamie. Thank you for your
service. Scott, it was great to uh sit in on your interview back then and uh been very uh very happy so far. Everything I've heard has been uh from the public has been a positive uh uh interaction. So, thank you very much.
Right. Welcome. Glad you're here. Um yeah, no, I same echo everything everybody says. You know, thank you for your service and I'm super excited that we're getting uh getting our squads filled. We're getting our shifts filled. Um you know, it's exciting and I know
talking with other officers, they're happier here, too. So, welcome. Glad you're here. Yeah. Thank you so much for inviting me and it was very nice to meet all of you. Nice. Man, how do you say your last name? Van Heavlin. Ben Heavenlin. Okay. I was just telling Joel
that uh I think all they do is look at how hard the last names are to pronounce and then they are Dutch. I I think it's Czech Dutch. Yeah. Looks like a Dutch name. It might be. Yeah. Well, Haley, thank you. Uh, I hope
you're enjoying it and you're getting used to everything and and uh yeah, to echo what Brian said, everyone that we've talked to as far as officers, they've had great things to say. So, I I truly wish you a great career here in London. So, keep up the good work. I
have Yeah, I've enjoyed my time here and gotten new experiences, definitely learned a lot, and I look forward to, you know, expanding my school. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Presentation of Ldale's Police
Department uh 2024 annual report. Jason Schmidz. Well, thank you, mayors, mayor, members of the council. Um obviously, uh officer shortages, uh continue to be an issue for many law enforcement agencies, including the Lono Police Department throughout 2024. We were scheduled to
add an officer in 2024, which would put the police department fulltime officers, which would allow us not to rely on part-time officers to fill ships. Uh the last few years, the state has experienced a significant decrease in the number of students going into law enforcement. In September, we lost
full-time officer Cody Breton to another agency and had another officer out on injury. For the past four months of the year, we were down to minimum staffing trying to provide 247 coverage. Um also in September, we received an applicant for applications for the two open
positions and hired officer Haley Ben Hubin background two other applicants with one backing out and the other it was decided not to continue with the background process. Officer Haley Ben Hubin successfully passed the background process and started the field training process on November 4th and has been out
since January. The Lanzo Police Department participated in the toward zero death campaign in 2024 with other agencies in Rice County focusing on impaired driving, speed, distracted driving, and uh seat belts. Our take to the box program
uh disposed 54 pounds of unwanted pharmaceuticals in 2024. Since that program uh began in 2019, the Lo Police Department has disposed of 385 pounds of pharmaceuticals. For the past 5 years,
um there's been a push from the federal and state government to have all law enforcement agencies switch to encrypted radios. The main reason for the change was public safety data being accessible to the public and officer safety. Our current radios, which are approximately 15 years old, are getting towards the end of their life and would need to be
replaced in the next couple years. The last three years I've been budgeting funds to upgrade the radios to encryption. Uh in June of 2024, I learned grant from the Department of Public Safety for the purchase of encrypted radios equipment which I applied for and was awarded to 40,000.
The plan is to be fully encrypted in 2026 and those radios have arrived. So we're working on getting those programmed and then here the next month hopefully finishing out that grant. So that be
nice. So with that, um I just like to thank the officers uh serving the community of WILL um throughout 2024. Um it's especially le those last four months when our staffing was short. It was tough. I mean, we had officers
picking up extra hours, switching their schedule around. Um had to decline some of the vacation requests and stuff like that. So it was kind of difficult. Um really glad I mean they helped me out work with me so that was really great
and some of those officer Todd Franklin you know he's had 23 years with us officer David Or has 18 officer Jack Schiker has 10 officer John the has eight and then officer Cody Breton served with us for two years and then officer Haley Ben Hublin started in 2024
and then our records receptionist has been here for 19 years so quite a few years department so uh training. The officers with the Lonzo Police Department had approximately 260 hours of training throughout 2024, which included the use of force training, firearms, investigating sexual assault
crimes, emergency medical response, crisis intervention and mental health, conflict management, mediation, implicit bias, and then autism. And then some of the community outreach events that we participated in which is all the officers
enjoy gives us an opportunity to uh um meet people in the community at all ages. So it's always great to kind of put faces with some of those names. So that's always great. But some of those uh we do uh we've done public safety presentations assisted in mock interviews at the TCU high school.
posted a car seat clinic, um the badges for bobber event, a fundraiser with TCU for the ride to school. Uh we do cup scout tours, the nights of unite community days, frosty fest, and then the uh meals on wheels program. And
you've also been there for our freedom celebration and the Halloween outreach community event. So, thank you so much for that. Well, thank you. I had to um and then then just as our uh
event. Um, officer assistant, one of the participants on the dock. Must have been the only time it wasn't raining during that event. But I give the kids credit because during that whole time when it was raining, um, they wanted to be out
there fishing. So, and then unfortunately, um, on February 18th of 2024, uh, sad an unfortunate event took place in the city of Burnsville where two officers and firefighter paramedic lost his life in the line of duty. Um officers from Ldale
and Rice County were honored to cover their uh city during the funeral. So a sad situation for that. And then for the total incidents for 2024, I kind of go back last three years so you can kind of compare, you
know, what those numbers look like. Um, and as 2024, we had 3,148 in incidences, which is a decrease from 23. Um, part of that is because of the short staffing, being two two officers down.
Um, kind of go to more reactive and kind of proactive just so we're not tied up with some sort of traffic stop, you know, unless there's a need for that traffic stop, but get away.
call that response, you know, from the county which can be 10 15 minutes away. So, and then kind of breaks some of the different crimes, you know, crimes against persons and property, um theft from vehicles, we saw a slight decrease.
Uh theft, just a decrease by one. Uh burglary, you know, there again was a decrease. property damage vandalism. Uh we continue to see an increase or decrease. Part of that is due to our camera systems in the parks. Typically those are huge target item for
uh vandalism and damage property. So it's always tough to see because I know public works. They do a great job of keeping the parks up and uh they get enough enough going on that uh they don't need to be there uh painting graffiti or fixing park equipment.
uh assaults. We saw a slight increase from 23 sexual assaults, you know, slight increase. And then domestics, a slight decrease um from last year. And then traffic incidences, we
had a total of 452 traffic stops in 2024, eight DWIs. uh out of those 191 citations and then motor vehicle accidents we had 29 and then kind of other incidences that we deal somewhat on a regular basis
animal calls we had 91 medicals uh 159 ordinance enforcement we had 168 thing last year was tall weeds and grass with all the moisture we got it was some residents found it a little bit more difficult But uh check park and businesses 455 and
then suspicious activities 123. The next page just kind of gives you an idea of our call volume uh time of day and kind of as you see you know right around that 10 o'clock in the evening it tends
to peak uh drops off and then you know right around that six o'lock in the morning you know gradually increases again and then the next page just kind of breaks it down as far as what
we tend to see a heavier call volume which is Friday and then kind of a breakdown of what what it looks like those other days. So and then on the next is the total incidences for 2024.
So this breaks down every incident we had and by number how many we had and then also provided should have the one for 2023 in there. So you can kind of compare you know those numbers from last year to
this year. So, with that, if anyone has any questions, right, thank you, Jason. Um, Jamie, you forgot to mention how long you've been with us, Jason.
Well, um, what's it been? 20 24 years. So, yeah. I started working in law enforcement before our new officer was born. So, thank you.
So, for some reason I they keep getting younger and I'm getting older. All right, Scott. Um, thank you for that. Um, you know, it's always interesting to see the statistics of, you know, where we are and stuff. Um, I guess for the public, uh, the comment I
want to make, and I see it, uh, when, you know, uh, thefts and stuff, you know, you you noticed, you know, I mentioned that thefts were down a little bit. Um, often times we'll see social media posts about car breakins and and or, you know, minor stuff like that and
people say, "I'm not reporting it because they're they're never going to catch them or, you know, you know, it's it's going to be hard, you know, to arrest or they're not going to prosecute him or anything like that." just from a public standpoint, how important it is that these things do get reported
because it if uh we can law enforcement can put together a um a map or whatever of you know keep track of where these things are happening, it can lead to stopping this stuff you know. Um and then also you
know the more incidents we have the uh allocation of funds for additional officers or resources or whatever is important. You know if if everybody says well we need more need more officers but the statistics show we don't it's you
know it it it doesn't work. So I just over the years I've I' I've noticed that, you know, so hey, maybe maybe it's great that we had fewer fewer thefts, you know, last year. But but at the same time, I think it's important to to report that stuff. Oh, yeah. No, definitely it is. So, but thank you for
so, you know, so much for everything you guys do. Uh uh I guess, you know, I'll say on and off the clock, too. So, it's uh you're integral part of our community versus just uh you know, patrolling and and that it's uh you're that you're the
the personalities uh that uh that you know make our community even better. Yeah, there are times I like to just take my [Laughter] phone, but it's it's been good.
Community has been great. So, all right. Thank you, Scott. Brian, thank you. Thank you for the information. I I like the transparency we get from all this. Um, you know, it's good to have this information, have it available for people that want it. Um,
and I, you know, thank you to to you, Chief, and to the the whole department. Um, you know, I I often tell people when the first thing I tell people when I talk to to them about the Ldale Police Department is if you want a lesson in community
policing, come check out the police department because I see it every day. I see the officers come down the road, they'll stop and talk to the kids, you know, and it's not just the events that you do. That's a huge part of it, but it's the the dayto day every day, saying
hello, knowing people in the neighborhoods. I think that's so important for a community of our size. So, I think you guys are doing an outstanding job with that and I just I really appreciate it. Thank you. Sorry. I echo everything. Thank you for
all of your work and the whole department is appreciated even though I know sometimes it's hard but we are thankful and grateful for you. Thank you. Um Jason, I know this takes a lot of time to do and I want to say thank you for putting the time in and then also
doing the grants uh for the radios. That was huge. Um, I I had texted you as soon as I found out that we were selected as the one of the top 15 uh community fund projects that we applied for for the
federal grant and that was for the squad cams and the body cams. So, I'm hoping that that goes all the way through. And then um you know, you guys do a very exceptional job, you know, staying within your budget and then also looking at the future, planning for the future.
um all the things that you guys get involved with, it's it's always great to see. I'm excited to see uh you know, our injured officer come back. Um you know, Cody Brotherton, um thank you for all the time that you put in, you know, ever
since uh 2022 and and I hate to see that he lost or he left. Um and we lost him. Um but he still mattered here and he still does. So, um, the one question I do have is as far as, uh, car accidents
go, is there a common location that it usually happens? Um, parking lots. No. Um, no. I mean, there's no really common area. Okay. I mean, that's data I can you want to
break it down to see, you know, where those where those accidents have happened. Yeah. I mean, if if there ever seems to be like a growing trend in a location, especially if it's, you know, county, that's something that council should be informed of. So then that way
we can go to the county and and talk with them about certain spots. Yeah. you know, speed studies too, like we're going to be going through resolution right now or towards the end 42. Yeah, I guess one of the spots
and centraltheast. Yeah. So, I know pretty good about watching the speeds especially, you know, concerned about especially that 15th Avenue and Central. you know, especially when we get a quick
trip in there, you know, that's just going to increase the traffic at that intersection. So, yeah, I agree with you. Um, 246 hang-ups. Oh, it was bad. Lots of kids in this
town. That was more of I think when they transitioned to the the watches. Oh, sure. That makes sense. And then when you put your phone in like a holder at like a soccer game and you hit those buttons accidentally and then the emergency
numbers called Yeah. No. Oddly detailed. I Well, it might have happened to not only just me but other parents. I mean, they they're great. I mean, Now we have crash detection.
So if there's a sudden jolt on your cell phone, it activates 911 saying there's a possible crash. Yeah. Well, again, u thank you for this report and thanks for all the hard work that all of you guys put in and I
appreciate it and council really appreciates it. So people have the great work and thanks for bringing Haley in. Yeah, it's great meeting her and hopefully we get good news on Zack, you know. So, okay, but hopefully here in uh next week
we just having an issue with getting a hold of a department where they need to go to background in I think on Tuesday. Okay.
Awesome. Well, thank you, Jason. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks. Consider approval of a quote submitted by Summit Supply Court of Colorado in the amount of $5,077.70 for a basketball hoop bench with back and a swinging bench. Joe
Dorfeld. Thank you, mayor, and members of the council. I believe it's kind of the next two are wrapped into the one. Um, local Laza resident Jameson Stout, I believe is how you pronounce his name. Um, he
sent a request to you, Mayor Berg, about having a basketball hoop installed at a park closer to his home. At the April 21st park and wck meeting, the recommendation to install a basketball hoop at the Stikas skate park was motioned, seconded, and passed. The park and rec board also recommended replacing
the seesaw at JC Park and purchasing one bench with a back. Staff recommends purchasing the park bench, basketball hoop, and swing bench from Summit Supply of Colorado. The vast majority of picnic
tables um and benches throughout the city have been purchased from them. They provide excellent quality and a 5-year warranty on the coatings of the picnic tables and benches. They do have a new coating out because we have had some trouble, but they stand behind
everything. No questions asked. They ship it out to us. Um they are they're great to work with. Um I do have some pictures attached with the new bench versus the ones that we have. They're very
similar. Um staff al also recommends purchasing the seessaw from Midwest Playcapes. This is the equipment supplier for all of the parks in the city. Midwest Playscapes is great to work with. Provides excellent quality park and play equipment. Um, also on the
quote that is attached is two easy diggers. Um, these are located at Rand Park and they are in need of replacement. Um, these are just a a 220 replace repair item. Um, the fiscal impact, the cost of these improvements
and operations was budgeted for 25, but with that said, the installation of the basketball hoop was not identified in the 2025 budget. Uh we had a total of $14,500 budgeted for tables, benches, and replacing the teeter totter. And the
total price for the equipment recommended by the park and wreck board, which includes the basketball hoop, swing bench, park bench, and seesaw with freight is $13,841.95. The easy diggers would be funded by the park department repairs
and maintenance account. With the easy diggers added, the total order cost is $17,517.95. It is recommended to purchase the easy diggers at this time to save on freight costs. We have three alternatives. We can discuss a different
location for the basketball hoop installation. We can purchase a different combination of equipment, benches, swings, and picnic tables. Do not purchase benches, swings, picnic tables, or the basketball hoop. Like I said, quote submitted from Summit Supply
of Colorado. Pictures of the benches and swings and the quot submitted by Midwest Playscapes. Um the park board um like I said earlier did make the recommendation. We kind of threw a whole bunch of ideas in the in the middle and
where to spend that 14,500. And that's what the park board came up with, which I identified everything in the budget process last year except the basketball hoop. Um, if you guys have any questions, I would be happy to answer.
All right. Thank you, Joel. Scott. Um, the difference though, uh, so you got what, 700 bucks difference on the versus budgeted on the, um, the easy diggers. Yeah, you know all
that would that get applied towards that or or is that a separate account for the under the maintenance account? So the easy diggers those are a annual park maintenance nightmare. They are just they're aware point of the
parks. Um this it's just simply I just wanted to explain when I quote everything. I just didn't want you guys to think I was blown way past that 14. Oh that's fine. I just wonder I mean if we we had like 7 700 left on from that line did that did that get moved down to
there or is that broken out separately it would be broken out separately. Okay. Doesn't not not a big deal. I just curious how it Oh, so it certainly can. I mean Yeah, that's fine. I just was curious if where where some of it would
be allocated from. But if it's if it's budgeted in your in your maintenance account, that's fine, too. Yeah. Okay. All right, Ryan. I don't know, Joe. You've been so good about being under budget and then the park board comes along and blows your
record right out of the water. I mean, I I I mean, it makes sense with the uh with the uh shipping to include the easy diggers. Um I did get a chance to see some of that. Um young man present his case for the uh
basketball hoop and he did a good job. Um my one question is and I I think it's more of a memory refresher at the skate park. Where would the hoop go? So it would go in the southwest corner.
The hoop you would shoot to the west. Okay. That's the only place we have room enough for a threepoint arc. There's a a zone in the skate park that has nothing um that was discussed um at the
completion of that skate park or basketball hoop location is that 23 that we so kind of skate park 23 I think so it was kind of planned for potentially being discussed half court yeah deal okay so there's not
you don't foresee any sort of issues with basketball players and skateboarders or or the the scooters or anything. I mean, I I'm sure there will be potential because they're both in the same proximity, but less likely. It's
not like there's a lot of obstacles. I don't know what you call them skate park, right? Features. Yeah, features. Um I don't um for the simple reason of shooting in the opposite direction of where they'll be skating. Okay.
I guess my recommendation for the skate park if number one it was discussed number two it's a flat piece of ground tr park went through this at the park board but if you miss a shot at tr park you got a long walk sure so
yeah and there's concrete right we're not pouring concrete thank you well as part of this discussion at the parks meeting and so I'm on board and I'm really proud of Jinson for coming and presenting. So, I thought that was
really cool. I love when community and especially our youth get involved with making their voices heard. So, hopefully more of his friends step in too when they have ideas. Jamie, it's another way to keep the kids from behind the screens and outside.
Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. And thanks again to Jameson that reached out and that was that was cool that parks board got to work on that and make something happen, come up with a solution, you know, and um and
thank you for uh thank you to Joe for making it happen too in public works. So um now do we can motion for you know item E and then right after motion for F.
If I could I had one other question I just thought of here. Go ahead. On the uh on you you had the pictures of the the different benches. Which one is which? I seem to recall it. The one to the right. Is that our current design? The right bench is our current
picnic tables and bench. whether they're green or maroon. Yeah, that's the same. Um, this the one on the left is the new coating. It's like I said, it's similar. It's not exact. Um, but that's the coating. Is the
construction the same as Well, you can see the the edge is a little thinner. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Yeah. So, I don't know if they're lighter or it it's the same quality and Okay, that's fine. Expectations, I guess. All
right. I just was looking at, you know, those those those angles seem so much more robust on the the older version. So, obviously there's additional weight there. Um, no, I guess I haven't lifted them, but community days, we moved them a lot.
They're heavy. So, okay. I just was curious. I just from a standpoint of, you know, were they are they going to be as durable and and uh they're telling me that the new coating is more durable. Yeah. But the the the metal structure itself Um, I think we should expect the same
quality. Okay. All right. That's all I have to do. Sorry. All right. Well, I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a motion. Can we Do we do two second motions? Yeah, we should just do two. All right. I'll make a motion for All right. Motion by Miller.
Second. Uh, second by Jamie. All right. Any further discussion? All in favor? All opposed? All right, motion carries. Uh, now item F. Oh, move that. Move on that. All right, motion by Palava, second by
Warcrian. Any further discussion? All in favor? All opposed? All right. Motion carries. Thank you, Joel. Thank you. Consider approval of a quote submitted by McNamera Contracting, Inc. in the amount of
$6,160 for water main patching. Joe Dornfield. Thank you, mayor, members of the council. Um, we recommend hiring McNamera Contracting to pave a water main break on Industrial Drive Southeast. This is a very large patch, too large for public works to pave. Um,
two quotes were received, one from Magnamera, one from Prairie Lake Blacktop, and Magnamera being the low bid. Um, McNamera is also the contractor for our upcoming 2025 mil overlay project, which is a couple hundred yards down the road. Um the water main patch
location is I just said that very close to the project. Magnamera proposes to complete the work along with the Milan overlay project which we're hearing is proposed to start on the 20th. Um McNamera has an excellent history of top quality work in Lawdale. Um I really I
really like working with these guys. Um in the 2025 budget process 30,000 was budgeted in the water department for um brakes, which this includes the pavement portion of a water man break. So, um the
alternative would be to approve the quote by prayer lake flattop. If you guys have any questions, I would be happy to answer. All right. Thank you, Joe. Brian, um of that 30 that's budgeted, is this the first project? Okay, that was the only question I have.
C, I'm excited to get that fixed because I drive on it every day. So excited. Jamie, I'm good. Scott, nothing. All right, I'll entertain a motion. Motion by Wormcinian. Second. Second by Miller.
Any further discussion? All in favor? All opposed? All right, motion carries. All right, give me a minute. This is where we get to the funky side of things. I can't pronounce these last names really well. Consider approval to make a conditional
job offer to Eli Kraut Kramer as a seasonal public works employee at grade one step one jewelers. As part of the 2025 budget, it was approved to allocate a little over $48,000 to hire up to four seasonal
public works employees. We received a total of 11 applications. U of those 11 applications um including Dick Bell um who was hired at the last council meeting, six were called for interviews. Of those calls, three responded. Uh the public works
director and myself interviewed three applicants. In this case, Eli Carl Kramer interviewed well. During his interview, he said he's responsible, a hard worker, and has experience working on equipment on his family farm. Uh because the position is seasonal, none
of the applicants um can more than six months from the first day of work otherwise the city and the employee will have to contribute to it's anticipated that Cramer will begin on about June 2nd and employment in early to mid August this is a budgeted expense the
alternative would be not to make a job offer to Kramer and included with the staff report is his application rating there's any questions will make a recommendation to make a conditional job offer to
Kramer seasonal public works employee at grade one step. All right. Thank you. Joel Curry, no questions. Jamie, no questions. Scott, nothing. Ryan, nothing for me. All right. Entertain a motion. So move second. Motion by a second by
Warerson. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. All opposed. All right. Welcome. Eli consider approval to make a conditional job offer to Riley Witty. Witty. Thank you. A seasonal
public works employee at grade one step one. Joel Ericson background as the last agenda item. During his interview, uh Eli said that he enjoys working on his car as a hard worker. He's punctual and a quick
learner. It's anticipated that he will begin work on about June 2nd and employment in late August. Uter alternatives would be not to make job offer to Riley and then included with
staff reports rating and application material. Any questions that would make a recommendation to make a conditional job offer to Woody as public employee grade one step one. All right. Thank you Jamie. No
questions. Scott, nothing. By n nothing. All right. Entertain another motion. I'll move it. All right. Motion by Miller. Second. Second by Vipka. Any further discussion? All in favor? All opposed. All right. Welcome,
Riley. Consider approval to make a conditional job offer to John. I would say Dublish. All right. I'm so sorry, John. Uh, a seasonal public works employee at grade one step one. Joe. Uh again, same
background as the previous two agenda items. Uh during his interview, he said that he had experience uh working with lawnmowers, landscaping, he's determined and a hard worker. Employment about June 2nd and employment in late
August rating and application material. All right. Thank you, Scott. I have nothing. No. Gary, no. Jamie, nothing. Entertain a motion. All right. Motion by Christian, second by Vka. Any further discussion? All in favor?
All opposed? I welcome John. I'm sorry about pronouncing your last name. Um, consider approval of following of the following liquor license applied for the Lonsdale Takaria LLC on sale
intoxicating Sunday and wine. Uh, Joel Ericson Ldale Takaria has applied for an on sale intoxicating liquor, Sunday liquor and wine license. They submitted all the proper information and consented to the required background check for state statute 348.42
Subdivision 2 Plaza Police Department completed the background check and did not find any disqualifiers in the background listed in state statute. Those disqualifiers include a person under the age of 21.
um a person who has had intoxicating liquor or 32% malt liquor license revoked within the past 5 years of the license application or anyone who at the time of the violation uh owns any interest whether a holder as a holder of
more than 5% of a capital stock of corporation license as a partner otherwise in the premise or in the business conducted there Tom or to a corporation partnership association enterprise business or firm in which such person is in any manner
interested. And then person who is not of good moral character and then a person who has had a license or registration issue pursuant to state statute 342 be revoked convicted of an offense
under 151.72 subdivision 7 or convicted under any other statute for illegal sale of marijuana cannabis cannabis product etc. According to Minnesota State statute
348.413 subdivision 2 the city and those under 5,000 population are authorized to issue not more than five on sale liquor licenses. This would be in addition to clubs and restaurants. Currently the only establishments in longale that have on sale liquor licenses are the American
Legion 586 and rail 19 city code 110.29 29 rated fees actually renewals already went out for for the next license year July 1st
through June 30th. Um anticipating receiving one month's prorated portion of the liquor license at 1833 Ldale Takaria paid the $500 uh fee for the background check to be completed.
unused were returned to them and then again the city will receive the 1833 for the liquor license. Alternatives would be to not approve the request liquor license attachments would be their application city code 110.29
and then state 348 which pertains to alcohol. Unless there's any questions, staff would recommend approval of the request licenses. All right. Thank you, Gil Brian. Um, I don't know, maybe this is getting ahead of it since things were new in
July, but just thinking to community days, this would be the only establishment within the fenced in area where there's the the beer tent
sales. Is there any problem there? They're closed Saturdays. Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point. But if they cho I mean if they chose to be open for community days which they might well I mean technically they would they're
they're on they're on sale so people can't leave leave with alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. I mean technically liquor license is valid for inside the walls of
the building unless it's stated a patio which which we have several in. Well, they do have a patio. They have a patio. Yeah, but but that would that's a fenced area also. Okay. I just want to make sure there's no I mean I I believe I believe uh Shannon and I uh we kind of
touched on this and I believe that I mean I don't have a problem with it. I mean you know I mean just don't want to run into Yeah. I just want to make sure there's no sort of issue with that since we do fence off that area. Since there's a charge to get in, you know, that's the
other thing. If people are charged to get into that area, what if somebody just says, "I just want to go over there." I mean, I mean, I maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. It's logistics for Yeah. At this point right now, it it doesn't appear that it's going to be an issue. Okay. I just want to make sure that's cool. Um tried it out myself the
other night. Uh their food is amazing. It's nice to have another business in town. I I don't see any reason why the liquor license would be a problem. I assume the other businesses in town don't have a problem with it either. Right, Jason?
Absolutely. All right, Carrie, I'm on board with it. I'm excited that they're here and they have gluten-free options, which I'm really happy about. So, yes. All right, Jimmy. Somebody wanted me to ask if they're going to have margaritas and
that's the only There was some discussion on that as far as what they're they're developing it. So, I don't think it's carved in stone as far as what they're going to do. Other than
that, I'm good. All right, Scott. I have nothing else. All right, we'll entertain a motion. Okay. Motion by Miller, second by Palava. Any further discussion? All in
favor? I I All opposed. I motion carries. Consider approval of two requests submitted by Rail 19 to amend their liquor license and close Railway Street Northwest between 19 and 2nd Avenue Northwest. Juel Ericson.
Um yeah, Rail 19, Rail 19, uh Bar and Grill is requested the city amend their liquor license on Friday, August 8th, 10 a.m. until Saturday, August 9th, 1:00 a.m. And then also Saturday, September 27th from 10:00 a.m. until
Sunday, September 28th at 1:00 a.m. And the road closures would mirror that except um being closed at 2 so they could allow time for tearing down the stage and removing the fence, things like that. Um this was done last year. I wasn't aware of any issues that had to
be dealt with or would be reason not to approve the the requested would be also is a aerial photo showing the proposed road closures road closure on those two
days approval of the request. All right. Thank you, Gary. I think it's awesome. Thank you so much for contributing to community community day and I was there last year and it was a great time and I think you guys did a
great job running it and keeping people safe and happy and having fun. So, I'm on board. Jamie, I'm good. Scott, um I'll echo uh Kyrie on that. That's awesome. Ryan, I was there last year as well. I
thought it was great. Super fun. I'm excited for this year because I've heard some uh some rumblings of who's coming. Not going to say anything more than that, but I'm excited for it. I'm excited that uh there's another opportunity to do this in the fall. And
I would just throw it out there that if this works out, might be something to consider to expand Frosty Fest and look at closing it down and creating something there during the tree lighting ceremony as well. Just something to
think about. Um I know last year was awfully cold, but you get creative with a closed down street in the winter time. We're motans. Yeah. I don't know. Just think thinking out loud and throwing stuff out there, but yeah, I'm excited for what you got
coming. So, I'm in full support of this. Yeah. Um yeah, I echo everybody and thank you Jason for for always looking at community all the time. Um so, anything else that we can do to help you
out, you know, we're all yours. Thank you for everything that you do. Um so, I'll entertain a motion. So, moved. Motion by Remis Gerson. Second. Second by Vipka. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. All
opposed. All right. Motion carries. Consider approval of a quote submitted by Scenic Sign Corp in the amount of $10,275 for the city hall signage. Joel Ericson. U obtain three quotes for
signage for the new city hall scenic sign court was $5,675. They also included a uh proposal 4600 to uh retrofit and relight the sign pro $7,6467 and then Ding sign company
$9,435 uh consistent with discussion that was held uh by the city council you guys wanted the drop and then the font consistent with the PD it's anticipated the sign will be installed mid to late June the fiscal
impact Uh if approved uh including the retrofitting length would be $10,275 otherwise the 5675 50,000 was budgeted for signage for this project. Uter alternatives would be do not approve the quot submitted by
scenic sign in the amount of 10,275 and do not approve the retrofitting in the amount of 4600. All right, thank you Jamie. Um, have they addressed the signs on the side of the building yet?
Uh, public works is taking those down. All right, that's all I had. Was there an option that you like? The first option. All right, Scott.
Um, I guess I I was confused about the the U retrofit. Maybe I mis misunderstood. Can you explain what the retrofit
is? I maybe maybe I the lighting the lighting. So is that changing it? That's changing all all the insides. That was swapping it out with LED lighting. All right. But nobody we didn't have that on.
Why am I Why am I not seeing that? They're the only ones that that proposed at this time. Okay. All right. I understand. All I All I requested for was was the signage. Okay. That's I guess that's where my I
wasn't anticipating on lighting. Yeah, it currently is lit, but it's uh Is it not? I did not believe it's lit. Oh, I Okay. I I thought I thought it was lit. Now I'm gonna have to look. I I think it's been turned It's been
turned off, but I thought there were lights coming at it. I thought it was lit internally. Like Yeah, that that's I'm going from memory, but you know, it's been a while since Okay. Um and then you wanted Yeah. As
far as what option meaning as in uh the uh the way the address is appearing on there is or what what are you asking? Do do you like option one or two better? Well, this one up here. I guess I'm I see the the the
one here which uh basically the difference between the signs is the at least one that staff recommending has the address on the on the bottom. Correct. the highlighted one as opposed to the one that has the address as in
city hall as part of the all the panel. Okay. All right. That's why I was I was trying to understand. Yeah. The the the top proposed with the the address along the bottom.
So option two, are you looking at the one that's highlight? I guess that Well, because I was looking at the one above it, which is on it because that's the So we're looking on the DIN proposal because there's one above it on the
scenic signs, but I think we could. Yeah, that's okay. That's that's why I was confused. But yeah, because that you didn't get down that I thought that was number one. So Oh, sorry. Sorry, I didn't mean to throw you off like that. There is only two options.
Well, but yeah. Um, so that one would have been option two. That was Yeah, that you're looking at there, Scott. Okay. Well, this one says city hall above the dropass and that one says city hall. Yeah. Below. They're different, but the address is
down below. They both have the address below. But look here. I don't like that. You got you got city hall above Lonzo on this one. And then the other two are city hall below. Yeah, I like city hall below. Okay. Yeah. And I'll I'll not my turn, so I need to Yeah, I'll I'll agree
with that. I would rather have the the Londale logo with city hall listed below. So it would be the I would I like the design of the the city hall below off the on the uh I guess I'll use the
9435 number. Option two. All right. Thank you, Scott. Brian, yeah, I like uh that option, too, as well. Um, and I guess since Joe couldn't come in under budget, it's nice that we
got a quote here under budget. It's just not your turn tonight, Joe. Since we have I mean, we're way under this one. So, I like You're gonna make him feel so bad. Um, I guess I'm ambivalent about the
lighting. Um, The only time I think it would be potentially well not potentially but like most useful is really in the winter time when we have meetings. Yeah. Well, meetings, right?
Because I mean we don't necessarily have to have the the signed lid every night or evening. It's nice when there's meetings there for either the boards or the commissions or the council, you know, so people look where it is.
Um but yeah, I guess If that's all the internal lighting, I would assume, do we have to do any uh work to light the flags where the poles are going or is that all run? Yep. There'll be lighting for the flag poles as well. So, I suppose if
we wanted to, we could look at lighting externally, like just ground lighting. Yeah, ground lighting, spotlights onto the sign and kind of loop that all together with the the flag pole, I would assume, right? Or are they in different areas?
The other thing about I I just if you put those if you did ground mounted flood lights they they pointing up towards that especially with traffic being laid as you with this monument style sign that light is going to be
coming through under that uh under the sign because there's an there's a there's a void underneath there and it almost starts getting out like uh before we had all the the shrubbery and stuff along the the Londale sign to the west. Mhm. People often thought there was a
car in the ditch because the the light the light looked like headlights uh you know way down in the ditch and just you had you'd be coming down a hill and you'd have a light kind of facing E statue or I even you know even going the other way. I just don't I don't I don't
want to have that that blinding thing. Um the other thing that now now that you bring that up though is the uh um we're going to have quick trip signage out there. We have, you know, Dollar General. To have a light uh a sign
that's similarly lit versus a a monument sign with just flood lights showing on it would be, you know, they're all going to be internally lit. Sure. I think it would look more consistent in the area if it was Yeah. Same. So, all right.
I just was curious about that. I'm guess one way or the other. All right. I already interrupted enough and said what one I like. So option two. All right. Well, I'll entertain a
motion. So So move for the for the option to with the lit sign. With the lit sign. Yes. All right. Motion by Palava. Second. Second by Warcrian. Any further discussion? All in favor?
All opposed? All right. Motion carries. Consider approval of resolution 2025-24, a resolution requesting Rice County to conduct a speed study on County Aid or County State Aid Highway 4 between Arizona Street Northwest and a/4 mile
south, 80th Street West, and a school zone speed limit adjacent to Lansdale Elementary. Joel Eric, uh, Mayor B, Council Member, and myself recently met with Rice County officials to discuss priorities of the county and
lale. During that meeting, it was stated the city wanted to have a speed study conducted on four or at least the school zone speed limit adjacent to the school be implemented to a lower speedre to increase pedestrian safety. Purpose of the speed study is to determine what speed is reasonable and
safe. In order changed. A study must be completed. Potential outcomes of the study are the speed limit remains the same. It's reduced or potentially increased. Section of county 4 to be studied is proposed between Arizona Street Northwest and a/4 mile south of
80th Street. Currently, the speed limit from Highway 19 to Arizona Street is 30 and I believe at Arizona changes to 40. Um, and then south of 80th Street it says
55 after Arizona or after 80th Street. Yeah, it's maybe or something like that to the south. Um so this this study would en encompass essentially the 40 mph speed limit
area. In order for a school zone to be established, the speed study must be done as well. Uh for the school zone speed limit, it's in effect when children are present going to or leaving school during recess. Um can't be lower than 15 miles an hour and shall not be
more than 30 m hour below the established speed limit for streets adjacent to the school where children have access to the street from the school grounds. Those are the three main points of of the statute pertaining to the school zones.
um is essentially none because we would be responsible for for the study. Alternatives would be not approved for proposed resolution or amend the resolution as desired includ resolution aerial
photo and then portions of state. All right. Thank you. Uh Scott, uh absolutely worthwhile thing to see what we need to do to
have no issue with it and mean there's no cost to us. I think absolutely Brian. Yeah, I agree. Um safety of pedestrians and the students is important and we know there's been issues with the speed limits in various
parts of town. So, let's let's get them figured out. Gary, I agree. Safety for the kids and families. Jamie, this has been long overdue. That school's been there for a while. I know when it was K through four, it was kind
of they don't really walk to school by themselves, but now that we've added fifth and sixth, they're walking to school by themselves. And I don't know if anybody's ever driven by there at drop off and pickup. They're lined up from the school doors all the way down
to Highway 4. So, let's slow it down up there for them. All right, we'll all entertain a motion. All right. Motion by Warcrian, second by Miller. Any further discussion? All in
favor? I. All opposed? I motion carries. Consider approval to make a conditional job offer to Brody Larald. Should be Lurfold Beth was correct. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Brody
Larold as a part-time liquor store clerk at grade one step one. Joel Ericson. U with the recent uh resignation of Carrie Sher from a liquor store um staff was authorized to fill the position at the March 27th meeting or at least advertised position was advertised on
social media's website at city hall and also at liquor of the three applicants for interviews only one showed up based on the interview the liquor committee recommended initial job offer uh be made
tool he interviewed well has experience sales service stocking shelves and seems to be able to catch things quickly college students through mid August. After that, he would be
available any question. All right. Thank you, Brian. um got to participate in that interview process with him. Um he I thought he interviewed interviewed very well. Um I think he'd be a good addition. The hours work well for
him. Yeah, he'll do good there. I like him. All right. Thank you, Krie. I was there, too. He did a great job. I think he's a great addition to the team. Thank you, Jamie. I'm good. Scott, I've known Brody for a number of years, so uh
I think going to be, you know, excellent fit. All right. Well, I'm excited um that uh we're getting through all these hard last names and that's it for the night. Um so, I'll entertain a motion.
So, move motion by Palava. Second, second by Miller. Any further discussion? All in favor? I. All opposed. All right. Motion carries. Uh discussion on selection of an engineering firm.
Um well we all uh participated in the interviews of ISG and WSB presentations by each person familiar and essentially consisted of
points well to serve the city be an extension of staff open honest communication is key to relationships and good projects use of technology and asset management ability of the firm to provide more than civil engineering. They discuss their state funding
successes and the processes they use consistent staff rate and um a seamless transition. One of the firms did provide followup information
on rates for projects. I did include that email or the email explaining that and basically what that came up to be
was based off of the project I believe is our last street project. Um, the fees that WSD proposed were essentially in the middle of because they gave a range of they use a range of
the high and low percentages based off of that project cost. So for comparison, WSB was right in the middle of of where ISG proposed those percentages for a street project. WSP
was what I say 19.5% of the total project cost and ISG range between just under 17 and just over 24%. Key components of making a decision would be a fit with staff and city council demonstrated experience and
qualifications of the assigned engineer in cities at least the size of long infrastructure capacity and design performance on similar projects staff's ability to timely and unbudget execute projects and then the
availability of the firm to provide staff assistant So, at least wanted to get this to the council for your information and not sure if there's any other information that you guys wanted or questions
or proceed. Sure. All right. Thank you, Gary. Can I go last? Okay, Jamie. Um, I'll defer to Scott. Scott. Well, I mean, ultimately, you know, this was uh, you know, this was
discussed uh, last year. Um, we'd been with uh, WSB for such a long time, we needed to get a idea of what the lay of the land looked like, you know, um, as far as rates, abilities, all that stuff. Um, you know, all all three firms are,
you know, more than capable. Um, we do definitely have a long-term uh continuity with WSB. Uh, you know, 20 some odd years, uh, bring somebody else
on, how much, uh, how much time is going to get spent getting up to speed? Um, you know, is that is that effective or not? Uh, you know, is of the essence for us right now. Uh we got projects that we need to get rolling on.
Um at the same time, uh you know, a little bit less on rates here and there, being good stewards of the taxpayers's uh funds. You know, it it comes down kind of like the the
garbage service, you know. you know, might get somebody a little bit cheaper, but uh we we still, you know, have good quality service through, you know, who we're with. So, yeah, I'm a little torn.
So, all right. Thank you again, Ryan. you can uh say anything or pass it on to Ki and No, I'm just trying to get through the uh the information here while we're we're discussing. So, um
because the rates of the piece, you know, that's net new here from you know, it's a it is a tough it's it's a tough decision to make, right? Because there's a lot of similarity in the firms
um you know sizewise necessarily you know I mean technology you know that there's so much similarity there it's it's it's a hard decision um you know and I I'm still trying to kind of wrap my mind around the
difference between or not really the difference but like the potential of WSB with the retainer proposal because that was a kind of a new um call it an innovative approach
to billing in these instances. Um I'm assuming it's just a $2,300 retainer. We pay that every month. Once we go above it, that's when we start getting invoiced for additional services. Um
hit the 23 still pay 23 but there'll be months where we don't or we we get more for I don't know I just for budgeting purposes it's nice yeah but at the same time
have there been months where we haven't met the $2,300 retainer in the past we've We never had it before. We've never had retainer before. Um we do get um like a line item breakdown. So we can
say correct. Well, yeah. One invoice is um they write off and um annually it's been about $21,000 the last several years. So when you say write off, it's it's we would bill you this amount, but we're
not. Correct. Yeah. Yep. So that would be I mean that would be a inflationary increase I would say right like if we're saying 20,000 in 24 or 25 or whatever um
2300 would equate to an inflationary increase to that amount like essentially it it be equivalent right? Yeah, I mean we we just took a look at um kind of the number of hours and what we anticipate
the impact would be and it is a reduced rate. It's not our full rate. So it is discounted and then I would I just want to comment the 23 we wouldn't go above the 2300. No. So if we spend more time, we're not
going to bill more than 2,300. Okay. So the hourly rates of 251 and 151 will apply in other projects. Just projects only. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. And just for comparison, just the bold, you know, 20 hours at
105, that's $2,100 a month, you know, if if you used up 20 hours. So just you know, you're you're at that you're $200 difference. And I think Joel put in his memo that, you know, we're
flexible if you want to have a different type of fee structure or negotiate something. Yeah, that was brought up during the interview process. That's all I got question right now. All right. Um Gary,
like Scott said, this is a difficult choice. Um you know, and you know, when you have somebody sitting here looking at you, too. Not to make it uncomfortable, but at all, um
it's because they're all capable of doing the services that we need. We do have an established relationship with WSB. It's money. Is it worth it to take someone a couple hundred dollars less like Scott said? But then
there's the learning curve, you know, all these things. So, kind of where I'm at right now. All right. Jamie. Well, there's the $200 mechanic and there's the $80 mechanic.
$80 an hour mechanic is probably going to take just as many or charge you the $200 because it's going to take him longer anyways. So you got to go quality at the same time. Joe, do you have anything input on this?
I would say um the city is in a state right now where we are ready to kind of start up again. Got some developments. We've got some businesses coming to town. We've got some infrastructure that we need and
I think the council should really take into account um the experience that WSB has um with the city of Londale. I think great things have happened in this city with WSB by our side um you know
redesigning the way we build our streets. Um just different projects around town. I mean, they've they've been here a long time, and I think they've done a great job. And I I I think it's important
that something is made, some decision is made sooner than later. Um, we do we have a dire need for a pavement management plan. And the sooner we get that ball rolling, the the sooner we will have nicer streets to drive on,
water tower, wastewater treatment. I mean the list goes on and on and on and on. So I just want the council to understand the value of experience when we enter these large scale projects that are
upcoming. Yeah. You know what it's always going to be a difficult uh decision. Um I think all of them interviewed really well. I I really truly enjoyed all their presentations. Um and like Joe had said,
you know, experience is a huge thing and I think residents would like to see um us spend their money wisely. Um and really look when it comes to our wastewater and our water treatment and
you know even our road plan and making sure it gets done to a really good quality where we don't go back. Um, you know, of course these are going to have their repair jobs, you know, down the line. But, um, with that, I, you know,
honestly, in my mind, I thought ISG came in and I thought they really kind of, um, you know, they they hit every niche that I was looking for um, with water treatment. So, we have the uh, chloride
variants that's going to be coming up and then the POS too and WSB can handle it too. Uh Bolton and Mink can. I mean all of them are great. I looked at a lot more funding options too which it seemed like you know Bolton Mink kind of won on
that side too. You know we're a small town trying to get money and trying not to raise taxes uh so much where you know becomes hard to live here. Um, you know, so there there's a lot of things that every group offered um that
were positive. Um, so I you know what kind of kind of bummed me out a little bit was yesterday we were late to the game or uh Tuesday we were late to the game on the audio for the video. And so I I usually go back and I watch these
council meetings and I kind of pull what, you know, maybe I might have missed watching it live and uh or being here in person. Um so there was some things that I wish I could go back with uh
ISG, but other than that, they're all more than capable of doing the job and supporting the city. So, uh, with that, I I would really, uh, urge council to spend some time really thinking about it. Uh, I think this should be voted on
next council meeting. Um, so, we got to make a decision. Um, we can't wait any longer. So, uh, with that, I I got nothing else to add unless somebody else does. Um, Joel Curry.
All right. So, we'll go into I think we need a motion to table it then or it's just a discussion. Oh, this was so for clarity. This is um kind of like a followup because we did get
this uh email from ISG following up on the Right. Yeah. That's why I I I I was a little bit surprised when I saw the the line item on the agenda because I didn't know we had gotten this information. Well, we didn't see it until Yep. just now. Yeah. We got here.
So, yeah. Okay. So, anyone's not going to be Okay. So, there was never a vote. There was never an intention on voting. I just want to make sure because if we if we were going that route, then we should actually do a motion to the table. But, okay. So, we'll go to
department and council reports. Uh Joe Dornfell, back to you. Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the council of public works. We you probably noticed um we got a mill on the front of the skid loader getting ready to patch a bunch of
sections of streets um in the southeast section, some by Sydney Hall, just some random bad spots around town. Um so Blacktop will be soon on the way. We've been working on getting irrigation systems repaired and
fired up. Um the guys have been helping um city hall staff here moving some of their stuff. We pressure washed the outside of the new city hall building. Uh we've got some landscaping up to to do up there just freshening everything up.
Um coming up here, we got crosswalks on board. Um, I just want to make the council aware those demonstration lanes, um, those pedestrian lanes with the white ballards, they're typically up by now. The reason they are not is because that's our mill and overlay locations.
So, as soon as those are complete, they will be up. Um, Joe, on on those, um, the one I had a lot of complaints about the one over uh on uh on Birch on Birch about making that turn there. It will be
reduced to a six foot pedestrian lane just like the one on industrial. Okay. Yeah. They're saying people are having a hard time making the turn. It really narrowed it up. That was our first one that we did. That's just kind of what the Okay. Fantastic. So, that will
change. Um crack filling is coming. We're really working hard for a for a definite date, but it's kind of hard when it rains. whoever has that equipment. It just
takes another day longer. So, when that comes, that's kind of the full effort. Uh the doors for the JC Park concession stand came in today. Got the hinges mounted. Got a coat of paint on them. Going to throw one more coat of paint on
them tomorrow. Get them hung. Um it's absolutely fantastic having Dick back. He's mowing away. He's mowing, mowing, mowing. Um everything with this rain is growing like crazy. We've airrated all the parks and all the sports fields.
Um, and then as Joel said in his staff reports, um, we did the seasonal interviews. I'm excited to get those guys on board. Um, that's all I got for you guys. Thank you, Joe Shabbani.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Um just reviewing quick trips plan. Uh met with staff yesterday um in ant anticipation of the next uh planning commission meeting. So getting those comments together and then the
mill and overlay project um we're having a pre pre-construction meeting next week and McNamera plans to complete the work May 20th to the 22nd pending weather. Um, so that'll get done quickly. And
then the booster station, um, like I reported at the last meeting, the plan is to switch out the pumps, uh, early June still and then continue with the coatings and the epoxy floor. Thank you, Shimani.
Uh, we'll do the council agenda items closed on our second housing grant for the rehab project for the EDA. That was positive. Uh, city hall project is is wrapping up. We had our HVAC controls
training today. Um, thanks to the public work staff for helping us get stuff over there and boxes and shelving. So, that's been huge. Um, ideally shooting for a move in by last couple days of this
month. So, probably be the June 12 council meeting that we are actually over there and live streaming. So, and then yeah, as said, we we met yesterday on the trip
plan review. Hi. Thank you, Joel. Corey, thank you, Mr. Mayor and council members. I just want to give an update that uh the planning and zoning commission meeting will be jam-packed. Um on the 19th we'll be
holding the um having the public hearing for the preliminary and final plat uh for Quicktrip. Uh we'll also be having the public hearing for the land use application uh submitted by Quicktrip. It's in the B2 highway and business
services and the conditional use would include car wash and convenience facility. Also that at that meeting we'll be re-reing the cannabis ordinance. uh the um city administrator and myself met with a uh a local uh
perspective who wants to start a business here. Um and then uh we have a few addition or uh digital billboards also at that meeting. So jam-pack planning and zoning meeting. Uh there's also a few other additional items in
that meeting also. Um park board is scheduled for that uh for prior to that meeting. But thank you Mr. mayor and council members. All right. Thank you, Corey. Brian. Um, so liquor store committee met. Uh,
we interviewed Brody and, um, got an update on the, uh, tasting earlier this Well, last weekend, right? Yeah. Yeah. Last weekend. Sounds like um it was the most vendors ever. I I unfortunately couldn't make this one
myself. I was trying to make the tastings. And if you've never been to one of the liquor store tastings, go to one. They're super fun. Vendors are great. There's food. Staff's great. Everybody has a good time. Um really, really good sales from the
tasting. Um so it was a it was a big success. So yeah, and uh we will not be meeting again uh over the summer. We take the summer off from meeting for liquor store since that's the busy season for the the liquor store staff. That's all I got.
All right. Thank you, Brian. Gary, I don't really have anything because I'm at the same meeting and parks is on the 19th. All right. Thank you, Carrie. Jamie, well, planning is known is on the 19th. Is the public hearing still scheduled
for cannabis or are we pushing that off? Uh, Mr. Mayor and council members, we're uh we're moving that to June. All right. But it sounds like it's going to be a really busy day at planning and
zoning on the 19th. Oh yeah. All right. Thank you, Jamie. Uh Scott, uh EDA would be meeting next Thursday. Um also next Tuesday at 5:00 pm is the Ldale Chamber Street Fair over
on Ash Street over by uh uh Lzelle Liquor and all that. Um, so, uh, this year it's even bigger. Uh, I believe that they are coordinating a, uh, uh, large vehicle fair to include some, uh,
construction equipment, um, maybe some fire apparatus and stuff like that. Uh, so that's an addition to that. Um, and then, uh, Chief Schmidz mentioned badges and bobbers. Uh, that's actually coming up in June. Um but uh
sign up was on uh was it last week? Uh I think it was last week and it filled up in like four minutes. So uh there's a waiting list on that. So uh yeah, there's a lot lots of stuff going on
uh both city and uh chamberwide. So yeah. Oh, I also want to add uh Mother's Day on Sunday. So, uh, happy Mother's Day to all the all the moms and grandmas and moms to be. Thanks.
Tom, the fourth one. Uh, yeah, I'm going broke. Um, so, uh, Arbor Day was, uh, pretty fun. Uh, thank you Joe, Brad, and Lee for working
so hard you had to go get more dirt. Uh, but um, yeah, you know, I mentioned earlier about uh, us being one of the top 15 for that uh, community project funding uh, through the federal side,
which I mean that's huge. Um, then Joel, how many interviews um, did you have uh, you and Joel for for that temporary or the summertime help for public work. The three just the
three. Okay. Yeah. It's nice to see uh people wanting to work for the city of LGO even with the liquor store and um you know and then we just saw Haley today too and then you know we talked about Zach a little bit the potential
new officer and um I think today was a pretty successful meeting with a lot of great positive things going on. So, uh, thank you to city staff for all the work that you put in and, um, really thank you and thank you to Snow Wizards and
Jason, too. So, um, other than that, uh, the one final thing that I kind of have to ask is what is going on as far as an update for a lease agreement for Skyward for the new city hall?
Um I had the city attorney uh drafting that basically using the evergreen as the template. Okay. When can we expect that to Okay. Um there was one more thing uh as far as
live streaming for city the new city hall on that June 12th date. Uh what are we doing for audio and what are we doing for visual? Are we taking what we have here and bringing it over? The plan is now to how um how it works over there
and um implement what we have more more speakers. Uh can we have that for a discussion for the next city council meeting just to go over just to make sure that we're all on the same page here. Uh thank you. Our upcoming meetings are
May 29th, uh, June 12th, June 26, all at 7 p.m. Actually, isn't the next May 22nd? May 22nd is also our first kickoff budget meeting and that May 29th is about 200 years
from now. Yeah. But don't we meet the second and fourth Thursdays? Second and last. on last because the uh the website has it listed as the 22nd. Yeah. On the calendar. That's why.
Okay. Just making sure my calendar too. Well, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. I'll make it. Motion by Miller. Second. Second by Va. Further discussion. All right. See none. All in
favor? I. All opposed. All right. Have a good night, everyone.