Did you get one? Hello everyone and welcome to uh the city council meeting. I'll call to order this meeting, Thursday, May 29th, 2025. If you could please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, thank you. Roll call. Ryan Wormer here. Krie Miller here. Tom Berg here. Jamesa here and Scott Balava here.
All right, moving on to approval of the agenda. I know that we have a couple items that we would like to add on to it. One is being consider approval of a reduced liquor license for the Wdale Legion. So, if I could get a motion for that. I'll make a motion. Motion by
Miller. Second. Second by Va. We can do that as item. Honestly, just get it done first. All right. All in favor? All
opposed? All right. Then there's uh also building permits 2025-01 uh- 08 and another building permit for 2025-01-13. Um this came up to me recently and uh we
should discuss this item and it can be item K. All right. Motion by Miller. Second by Palava. Any further discussion? All in favor? All oppose. Is there anything else that
council wants to add? Motion to approve those additions. All right. Motion by Palava, second by Warian. Any further discussion? All in favor? All oppose. All right. Approval of the minutes. Consider approval of the
minutes from the April 24, 2025 regular meeting at the May 6, 2025 special meeting. Are there any additions, deletions, or corrections to the minutes? Motion by warm excursion. Second by Miller. Any further discussion? All in
favor? I. All oppose. All right. There are no public hearings. Presentation is citizens petitions and comments. Comments are limited to two minutes. So if you aren't on the agenda, now is your time to speak. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of council, fellow neighbors.
Um, many of you may have read my post that I put on the Lawn Still Happenings Facebook page. Um, goes into more detail about my situation, but I'll do my best to share with what I can in the time allotted here. My name is Michael Moran. I'm here regarding uh tonight the
upcoming decision on the council choosing the engineering contract. Specifically, I want to share my personal experience with WSB and raise some concerns that I had before a vote is cast. Excuse me. So, I've lived in Lansdale
for over nine years now, and in 2021, our street underwent a reconstruction project. Before the work began, I attended the October 2020 planning meeting and informed the city that our home, which was built in 1978, was built on fill, meaning it was um loose back
filled um soil rather than solid undisturbed ground, and uh that it had a history of foundation settlement. I expressed concerns that digging too close to our home would cause catastrophic uh foundation damage. And when we purchased the house in
2015, we didn't just rely on a standard inspection. We actually hired a structural engineer and he confirmed that while there had been significant movement in the early years after the construction, the house appeared stable. Sorry, I'm kind of nervous. I don't know why I do public speaking. It's weird.
Um but uh he advised that uh it appeared stable but to keep an eye on it and for the next five years we did. There was no movement, no damage. Everything held steady. Uh and that changed after the
road work. At that 2020 meeting, we were told the ex the excavation would be five feet from the road. Instead, they ended up digging mere feet from our foundation, much further in than they originally said. Um, the proximity of
that work directly impacted the stability of our structure. Shortly after the construction wrapped up, the damages began, and it hadn't stopped. Cracks in the drywall turned into gaping separations. Floor shifted, doors don't close, windows don't work. Our family room is warped with peaks and valleys
that look like a skate park. The two halves of our home are literally pulling apart. What was once a stable home is now breaking in half. And the damage is not slowing down. Every week brings new cracks, more movement, more separation.
We're now forced to ask the unthinkable. How long before the house is deemed uninhabitable? And how long before it's condemned and we're left homeless? And for this, we paid $15,000 of an assessment added to our taxes to fund the project that destroyed
our home. I'm almost done. I've been an open book. Every time somebody asked for documentations or photos, I provided it. I invited city staff, engineers, and contractors to come to our home and to see the damages for themselves. We had nothing to hide.
I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm asking for accountability. WSB was the engineering firm on this project. They weren't at the meeting as far as I know. They didn't follow up with me after I raised
concerns. Uh they didn't watch the video that was posted on YouTube and they didn't act at all or if they were in attendance, they didn't speak to the contractors about the issues. Um, if WSB does get this contract, they
shouldn't get another contract from us until this is made right. And if they do get this contract, they need to make it right. Either way, the city and the residents put their trust in firms like WSB to protect the integrity of these projects. Not
just the streets, but the people who live on them. I shouldn't have to lose my home for trying to do the right thing and raising concerns the right way. Um, closing here. As I've said to many people regarding getting my home
repaired, I'm not looking to replace an old Chevy with a Cadillac. I just want to be made whole. WSB needs to take responsibility for whatever portion of the damages BCM grading and their insurance will not cover because they failed to communicate
the concerns that I raised to the contractor. Thank you. Thank you, Mike. Well, is there anybody else? You guys got added to the agenda, so All right, seeing none, we'll move forward with the approval of the consent
agenda. Tonight's items are the monthly and additional bills, treasurer's report, board and commission minutes, consider approval to accept a letter of resignation from a part-time liquor store clerk, consider approval of a sewer rate adjustment request. Does any uh does any citizen
want any of these items removed and considered during new business? None. How about council? I don't want to remove anything. I just want to say thank you to Emma. Yes, she did a great job.
Yeah, I echo that. So, I'll entertain a motion. Motion by Warers, second by Palava. Any further conversation? Seeing none. All in favor? All opposed? All right. Moving forward with old has discussed selection of city
engineer. Thank you, mayor, members of the council. Um earlier this year, the uh city council requested staff's um draft an RFP for solicitation for engineering services. Uh that was done. Believe we
received eight proposals. Uh we interviewed three firms uh WSB, Bolton Mink, and ISG. Um I believe those interviews were conducted on May 6th. Um there's
been a little discussion um about moving forward with selection of a of an engineer and um tonight is really the council has to make a decision on how we're going to move forward with um contracted engineering
services. I would say that all of the firms that that probably submitted um but certainly those that we interviewed could all perform uh the necessary services to the city. Um WSB has been the city engineer since
early 2004. Uh they helped the city through all of the development that was u conducted between again 2004 and the height of the boom08. And then um numerous street projects I believe we've done four,
five, six, seven street utility reconstruction projects maintenance every year. um they're heavily involved in reviewing our surveys for new home construction and then I know they work uh closely handinand with uh public
works probably on a a daily if not more frequent basis. They've always done a done a good job. Um and I guess at this time the council needs to needs to make a decision on how we're
going to proceed. We got a lot of things that are in the hopper and coming down the the pipe here. So, all right. Thank you, Joel. Um, council, I know that this is a difficult conversation and a difficult decision.
Um, I know I like to pass it around to council, so then that way everybody has a turn. Um, I'll rip the band-aid off first this time. Uh this came up to a discussion between me and the city administrator about potential uh requests for proposals and WSV was one
of them. Um I was shell shocked when I saw the rate adjustments and I thought hey you know what this is the perfect time to see what else is out there. in my eyes. I talked with a bunch of contractors, talked with other cities,
and I mean, there's no sway in me uh with this decision, but I want to give my vote to Bolton and make uh it was the best deal that was on the table. Um they are they are one of the uh I don't know, just had a glowing recommendation all
around me and I couldn't say no. So, with that, I'll pass it over to you, Brian. There's anything you would like to say? Um, no. I'm gonna pass also,
but we're on We're not It's okay. All right, Krie. Uh, you already stated this was a hard decision. a lot of information to look over three great interviews um during that meeting um after review and also reaching out
and talking to several people I simpl you know, we worked with WSB for a number of years and this is the first time that I've heard of this. Um, so and and I should say um on the project the
year before um we had a sewer backup and um obviously no one wants to be involved in in any of those situations regardless of of what damage to someone's property is. Um but the city did get uh the contractor BCM um to to get in contact
with the the homeowner and um how it got resolved I guess I'm I'm not sure but um the insurance company as far as I know um held up their end of the deal and and paid for the the damages. Uh in this specific case, uh it was brought up at
the either the neighborhood must have been a neighborhood meeting and uh the project was was constructed and I believe it was over a year later the city was made aware of the situation that there was a
settlement. So at that point we instructed Mr. Moran to um get in contact with BCM, the contractor, and file a claim on their insurance. um for I I do believe it was a while that it took them a while, but they
finally did did make contact. Um and there there were some concerns by their insurance company. I haven't spoke to them. I'm getting this secondhand that um that
they're not responsible for for 100% of it. Um the city have to be contacted by or BCM's insurance company as to be to a party of this. So, I'm not sure where it is at at this point in time if um uh BCM
is going to make the repairs or their insurance company is I'm not sure. Um but but there is a process to that that is followed and we have responded. I guess I'm not aware of any uh videos or YouTube or anything like that.
Um, you know, and we also worked with Mr. Moran on drainage in his backyard as well. Um, so, um, it's an unfortunate situation, but on certain aspects of the project, city staff and WSB went well above and beyond
the scope of the project to address uh, drainage concerns in in those rear yards. As to the the comments about working within a couple of feet of the foundation, I do recall typically we don't No, that that is correct. Um
the his curb stop, his water shut off was not at the right ofway line. That's where 90% of them are located. So the option was splice in to his service line, which I wouldn't want at my home. I don't think anyone in the city council would want that. Just another uh weak
link could be a leak in the future. So, his curb stop when that development was installed was installed closer to the house. Uh, I don't know the exact footage, but I know it wasn't within a couple feet. I believe there's a sidewalk in front of his house that was
not disturbed. Yeah. So, regarding the video Oh, okay. Yeah. So that's what I'm referring to. Um, regarding uh the distance from the house, you're right. They came in much further, much closer to our home than anybody else on
our Mayor R did um tell me during that meeting, hey listen, if this happens before, the contractor makes good damages. I have been in contact with them. I've been in contact with the insurance company for well over excuse
me about a year at this point but to get to that point where I spoke to insurance it took almost two years just to get to that point because a lot of back and forth walked through my house as well with um I had many many contractors coming
through my home again I invited anybody wanted to come up the point that I was making that in this very I addressed that there was a concern that if they got too close to my home that the that while my home was stable,
there was issues prior when it was built and that any additional um moving dirt and vibration could cause problems. The engineer confirmed that and came out from the insurance that that they did confirm that they are liable. However, they didn't they've yet to give me the
final percentage because I had them go back run the numbers um based on inflation and things like that for contracting but they they have told they will not do 100% because the one area that they're fighting the most in terms of their
liability is that they were not told by the city that I brought up these concerns. Now does that fall on council or does that fall on WSB who effectively are the liaons for the because I don't
expect any contractors to know this. WSB was there in the building when I addressed my concerns. They could have talked to me afterwards, got more information, drilled down a little further. They could have scheduled the meeting with the contractor. There was nothing. I did my part. I shared what
was my concerns and left in the hands of the previous previous administration and it stopped there. Thanks, Mike. Did you have your hand up, Tom Mala? Facebook, but not all of
it. I asked the I say so the reason that that happened is they were grading I think on a late afternoon on Friday and the um one of the equipment operators uh backed over a a manhole and put a place a piece of
sheet metal over it so that you don't get debris in there and that got um moved off of the top of the manhole and gravel fell in there. So, um that that is my understanding of of
why um I don't remember uh telling Tom or his wife to get lost. Um but it is w or the contractor's responsibility. They're the first point of contact in this situation. when they were running the
the whatever piece of equipment they were running. Um, they caused it, not the city and it wasn't WSB's fault. Um, it was Can I add to this? So, it was it was the Friday before Labor
Day and public works came in that Friday night to jet the sewer line out upon discovery that the first The black top had just been laid and the manholes were not accessible to clean out. That time
BCM was called. They met us. They cut them out of the street. I would say by 9:00 on Saturday morning, everything was um working again. Um, at at no point,
um, did I feel that myself or Joel was like telling Tom, don't contact us. We I think we did quite a bit to make sure that the Mikas were taken care of and in in contact with somebody to get the process
and get the ball rolling. So, All right. I I don't I guess I don't want to get into that. I I wanted a little more information. shared with the presentation earlier earlier tonight. Um, you know, obviously there's a
there's a cost um not just the contract cost, there's a there's a cost to bringing on somebody new u a new company. Um, and many of these companies said there would be no charge u for getting up to speed, you know, whatnot.
But there is still a charge. There is still a cost. Uh, we have staff time uh to do that. everybody um up to speed. Um we got a lot going on right now. Um
and I believe that while we we have a couple of instances of issues that didn't go right. We have how many instances of things that did go right for many years.
So, I would put my I would put my WS. All right. Thank you, Scott. Ryan, back to you. Yeah. I mean, my biggest concern with everything that we discuss before
us everybody said my concern is bottom line costs. is a tough decision, right? This was brought up last year before the election. We
haven't changed a lot of differences presentations and what they brought to the table as far as technological capabilities. Do I think that there's a lot of difference between them? Not
necessarily. Um, but what we presented was very, you know, there's two proposals on the table. I guess I'm not Why is that? Oh, it's okay.
It sounds to me like people are pretty. Yep. All right. Somebody make a motion. I will make a motion. All right. Motion by Miller. Second. Second by Vipka. Any further
discussion? All in favor? All opposed? All right. Motion carries. On to new business. Consider approval of a reduced liquor license for Lansdale Legion. All righty. I'd like to thank you, Mr. Mayor Council, for speak on
behalf of Legion Post 586. My name is Randy Bloss. I'm the House Committee Chair, the first vice commander, Michael Lang. the gambling manager. We're here to ask for the liquor license cost to be lowered from
the $2,200 to what it has been in the past years. Um, the reasons we're we're asking and and thinking it should be is the hours that we're open. We're open 3:00 p.m. till 1:00 a.m. possibly if
somebody's there at that hour three days a week, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Um, so we're not open 24, not 247, but you know, seven days a week. The monies that we do raise and make go back into the Legion, which then go back into the
community. Um, so it's it's not doesn't go to Legion members. It's not a forprofit per se. We don't take money. And I'm going to let Michael talk about who gets donations and how much we have donated. Okay. From the period of
uh July 1st through uh June 30th of this year, state fiscal year, we've given away almost $50,000. This is money that's just been given away. We raise money in the gambling arena to give it away. That's our purpose. Unfortunately, about 20 25%
of it goes to the state of Minnesota. That's the first charity that we get to do. But the rest of it, we try we get a charitable gambling rating. It's got to be above 30%. We're we're north of 40% now. We'd like to be at 50%. uh some of the and within the local
community we've given $25,000 in 20 2024. Uh we've given them a new new Prague postp prompt dollars for scholars. Uh TCU hockey, TCU postp prompt. Uh we've never turned away a Ldale ambassador that's asked for money. Uh we we do business with with uh
companies in the local area. This the the city of Ldale. We've given $3,000 in 2024 for the fire suppression equipment. Uh we do business with Lonz Ldale Country Market Store. Uh Trilegion Baseball, Montgomery Sportsman's Club,
uh Mini Storage, Country Market, Lanzil Ambassadors again, City of Lonzale, another voluntary competition, $1,800. Believe it, uh K9 Partners, they provide service dogs to veterans at no cost to the veterans. We've given money to
Immaculate Conception, uh L Toronto Lutheran Church. We give lots of money to the food shelf. We give money to the TCU booster club. We give money to uh the school districts. Uh again, the city of Lonsdale, another $750. Um and and a lot of other other
area uh businesses in the area. Uh New Prague Wrestling Booster Club designated Marsman. We gave them $1,000 in 2024. All the money we get, we we pump it back into the community. We do business locally as much as possible and we give it back. We raise money to give it away.
I tell people by uh uh pull tabs and lose at least you're a winner because we give it all away. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you for your time. You sure you want to go this time? Okay. Ryan, I'll let you go first.
So, I remember this came up last year. Essentially, what it comes down to is regain a lot of com but um yeah so because under state law we can't club license We made the decision
last year because one thing we have control over the liquor license process. Now I know there's one right there's license and you know discuss they were
going into a reducing hours there was a period of time that we're all aware of you know I think those struggles are continuing this year I know you know we tough environment I've had lots of
conversations a lot of members I'm not opposed to doing it again like we did last year I think Yeah, I mean whatever level is I'm not
opposed to doing it because one of the big concerns I' like not not just because of all of the stuff that's been given to the community does give a lot but you know is the center of town
and I I firmly believe that if we don't help We run a real risk of losing the big building in the center of town. That's not a good look. It's not good for the Legion. It's not good for their recruitment process trying to get back on their feet.
So, you know, I I'm not opposed to doing it again. I don't believe that we should create a new line item on our fee schedule. I think this should be taken as a case by case
situation. But again, I'm not opposed to entertaining this year. All right. Thank you, Brian Curry. Well, as many people know, I'm very about our legion. I'm a member of the auxiliary, huge supporter of our veterans and all
the programs that our legion provides. I think that it's essential for us to support them. Um it's been a really rough year. Um I've been witness to it. Um trying my best to help with the organization. Um I have poppies if anybody wants to uh donate to the
poppies since it's poppy month. Um and so I'm all for it for this year for sure. $300. Thank you, Jamie. They reached out for help. They wouldn't come up here and ask for
red. Thank you, Scott. Um, well, as Brian, you know, shared with the background, um, last year, although I think there was a a little bit of a an issue because at the time, I think they said we going to be open three days. Um
so I believe that was what the case was and then uh right after that uh so we gave gave a reduction because it was less than half the week. Um and then shortly thereafter expanded the hours again.
Some of the hours that were expanded weren't really a decision of the house. Right. Right. That's information. But you know that that played into So they were operating on Sunday without
Sunday lessons. And I I don't I'm not opposed to it. I get the the optics of it was thank you very much and we're going to do what we're going to do. You know, whether it was the the House, you know, the House committee had, you know, knew or whatever it me on the outside, I'm not
invol I'm not involved in the Legion. It's just it's not my it's not part not part of my world. I'm the same way. I just uh but on the outside looking at it, I mean, it was a it was kind of I I viewed it as snubbing their their nose
and going, "Hey, thanks a lot, guys." But, you know, you know, I I was act I was actually as a as a council member, I was very disappointed in that action because, you know, we we gave them a a good faith uh you know, gesture and I
felt it was uh kind of thrown back in our face. Now, if it wasn't the organization That's that's that's a little bit different. But um that that was my issue with it. None of the people that were involved in that whole kind of downfall
are involved anymore. So it's a we're trying to have a fresh start and rebuild. Yeah. Just to kind of add to that a little bit. I I know from having conversations with a lot of people that have been involved, you know, people in the House committee, people within the
leadership structure, just members in general. I've had a lot of conversations over the last year and a half, I'd say. Specifically, I've got to know, you know, social aspect.
um they've been very and I'm not going to take this as a venue to the laundry of Legion, but they're they're very happy to share the situation and what happened and I guess I would commend them because they were pretty swift in
taking action to remedy the problem. They recognized I mean it did take some time to come to the attention of that could make those decisions and you know been shared here tonight action by employees that didn't have authority to
do what they did and you know I've heard the stories I've heard it from the people that is they're very candid for about here's what happened we weren't happy about it here's the action we took to take care of
it and I think you know absolutely if we reach a situation like that again I think we bring it agenda item and we take swift action to remedy that situation. But in in in that in that case last year, we had no option. We we
couldn't do anything about it because we there was there was no verbiage, you know, an allowance, you know, they weren't violating, you know, officially. I guess there was no there was no official violation. You know, I I know it's kind of on from, you know, from the distance it it didn't it didn't look
good. So, um you know, I think that uh just to backtrack is yeah, okay, we we gave them a deal last year, but I mean I'm still hanging on to the fact that they pumped in over $50,000 into
the community. And so I mean, take that for what it's worth. You know, I I I don't I'm not denying any of that. It was And I'm not telling you that you are. I'm just saying, you know, at the same time, there was some good that happened.
We felt like we were discouraged to kind of do it again because of opening up, you know, pivoting off of last year's story. So, go ahead.
We sure hope business. So I would say That is what we want. I appreciate that, Randy. One other thing that needs to be mentioned here Jason Graves and just say hey this impacts you
specifically because we're talking about the thing we did last year and you guys are being charged the full price I just want to make sure before we even get into a conversation about this what is your both of them are
in support of doing this again. I know they last year they both actually came to the meeting and express they were they were supportive of this whole rising tide scenario that's kind of the
attitude they both I guess I can say I'm not adamantly opposed given that that that situation that it was not the the official organization but that that was my biggest issue.
Okay. So, do I need to abstain from any of the motion or voting on it since I am a member? Yeah. And I don't want like any conflicts, but I would unless you're benefiting benefiting financially, you can vote for it. I just benefit by
having a place to hang out with my friends. That's all of us and supporting the community. Why don't you make the motion? Okay. I'm making a motion that we give the Legion a $300 liquor license for this year with the
um ability to revalue it if the business does improve or and they increase to more than three days a week. Okay, that's kind of long. Motion by Miller. Second by Wersian. Any further
discussion? All in favor? All opposed. All right. So, moving on. Thank you, Randy and Mike. Consider approval of a resolution 2025-25, a resolution approving the Willow Creek Commons fifth edition
preliminary and final plan. Corey Hinszer. Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. Uh we have Lisa Watson here tonight uh the Quick Trip real estate manager and uh she's going to lead uh lead this agenda item off
with her uh her presentation. Uh a few of you have seen the presentation already but uh she requested to uh kick off our meeting tonight for Quick Trip. So Mr. Mayor uh council members Lisa Watson. Thank you Corey. Mr. Mayor and
council members, thank you for having me and just go through some information. I don't like to assume that everyone knows any or all the information. So, we will talk about our site development
plan for Lndale. And Lansdale was a community that um you can go to the next slide, Joel. um was a community that uh was pointed out to us um via a couple outside resources actually uh that we
attend and that I look for opportunities in smaller communities. Your population uh fits our demographic quite nicely there. Um it shows growth, it shows potential. Um it also is an opportunity where we look at traffic, we look at
what uh current uh fast food restaurants, what we call QSRs, are not available. We look at what other things are available in the community. And because Lansdale is a growing community with uh an industrial park, growing
their housing, they've you've built rebuilt your school, I believe, three times uh to add. Um so this is a community that we feel is a really good fit for a quick trip store. Corey, uh the details of the site And this is what
we call a Gen 3 convenience store. It is around 9100 square feet. It has an attached car wash. Um it has an eight dispenser fueling canopy. So dual dispensers and a picnic area outside
north of the store. You'll see the little red what I call umbrellas on top of outside uh picnic tables. Um, there'll be a monument sign and an off-site sign with our gas prices, so the community is very well aware of what their gas prices are. There'll be four
access points, which helps reduce uh congestion, especially with potential work trucks and people pulling whether it's a um a recreational vehicle, a lawn mower, a trailer um to wherever they're
going. It's 2.2 acres. So, a couple other things on the site that I want to point out is that Oh, Joel, will you go back? Sorry. Um, south of the site, you will see that there is a six-foot burm that will be on built up. There will
also be a six-foot fence with landscaping on the outside of the fence. Um it is typically a white uh what we call a um non-seedar fence but really nice looking that matches the community and
that'll go all the way and it's kind of hard to see but it goes all the way to the end of the street on Connecticut. So um I just want to point that out. It also helps deter you'll see that there will be a pond on the west side right there and that helps deter people from
going and potentially walking across that pond. Also on the site um that I want to point out is there are no headlights potentially facing that community. All the parking is facing north. So when cars pull in, unless they're going to back in every single
time, but most cars pull in and will be facing uh Commerce Street. Um there will be two entrances. There's two vestibules on this store for easy access. So people walking um into the community will have sidewalks along both sides where they
can walk up along the store. Uh on the north or on the southwest corner is where the dumpster is and there's an enclosure which you'll see on the next slide. There's also an island as you see to the east with landscaping on it to help create some barriers there.
This is the exterior. It's a brick facade with a green metal roof, our almond fascia and sophet. Um, we use LED lighting not only on the building signs but on the whole exterior of the building. So, all the exterior lighting
is LED. The light pollution stays on the site and it is all downward facing. So, from street level, you would never see directly into a light bulb. They are up under the canopies or up under the fascia. This is the detached uh dumpster with a
brick facade with a block structure. Um it's a sandstone vinyl board gate. Um this is again so that it's hidden, but our team goes and opens the gates when the uh garbage truck comes in uh to empty. It's close to the building
because for security and the safety of our team, we don't walk want them walking too far, but we do want it outside the building to deter creatures of such in the building. Uh fueling canopy details. This is about a 3,800 uh size fueling
canopy. Just to point out also, there will not be a side diesel canopy. So, those of you who typically would see our semis and trucks pull in on a different canopy, this is not a diesel canopy. This is regular fuel. There will be diesel on the end fueling stations for
trucks to be able to use. Um, but big trucks and semis will not be able to get into this canopy. Um, again, LED letters and stripes. The columns will be wrapped aluminum. We do underground storage tanks. There are five. They are
monitored from Lacrosse. There is a very very um very well-indepth system that monitors if a potential leak. Um there's actually a button inside the store that the staff can push. There will be there would be an alarm that would go off. We
monitor our tanks significantly. They're doublewalled um and meet the highest standard in the industry. All right. Our interior building and a little bit more about Quick Trip. We are a family-owned business. We're four generations owned.
We started in 1965. We are celebrating our 60th anniversary this year. So, as a family-owned business, that's a pretty um large accomplishment to be still familyowned during this day and age. Um we do not franchise. We do not sell out
any of our other stores. Um 24 hours of operation. We serve hot food. Uh we have a fullsize kitchen. And as you can see in the picture, these are the newest pictures of the inside of the store. There's a high top area with seating for
uh high and low. There are no fee ATMs in our stores. There are two selfch checkckout actually counters now in our store for people who don't want to wait in line. There is if in the bottom you will see a banana
slashproduce fruit island now in the store. So, those are on a separate island of themselves. Um, and then it gives us the ability to expand our grocery, our take-home meals, our chicken, our pizzas, all the things that
are grabband go. Um, for the company, we are able to save cost because we're called a vertically integrated company. We make it, we ship it, we sell it. By doing that, we're the only convenience store in the chains that do this. And we
are able to do that because of our production facilities in Lacrosse. We have 130 acre uh campus and we are able to remove our excess costs and control quality by keeping it all in the cross. The stores get a daily delivery.
Everything is fresh including ice cream, milk, eggs. They come from local farmers. We source from a lot of local farmers in Minnesota and Wisconsin for all our products. Okay, Joel. Next one. And then a couple other things,
community benefit. We typically hire approximately 25 to 35 uh permanent jobs. 40% are full-time, 60% are part-time. It can go 50/50. It can even go higher than that. It just depends on who wants to work what hours. Our
projected payroll is typically around 600,000 annually. We partner with local food shelves to pick up anything that's either close to that's excess close to expiration. Um we want to be able to give back. We also give back to the
community by doing charitable donations for a lot of the whether it's sports teams, whether it's schools, whether it's Fourth of July parades, holidays, things like that. We also support police and fire. if they need to come in and get something for an event that
happened, we are there to support them. Um, we also will give back for um, you know, again, anyone who comes in and is in a struggle. Let's say a tornado goes through and there are multiple homes and things damaged, we will try and help
wherever we can. Um, again, uh, Wisconsin based family-owned company. And the other thing I want to point out is on the full-time jobs, Quick Drip gives back 40% of its profits to its co-workers. So, every single co-orker, whether part-time or full-time, gets a
bonus check at the end of the year that's actually handed out in a check at the year- end meetings. And that is directly in response to whatever profits are left over at the end of the year. Um, there's also many other benefits for
full and part-time people. Um, and one is they get drinks and coffee and pop on shift. Um, we recog their birthday. We recognize work anniversaries with a gift card for co-workers. Um, we actually have co-worker appreciation coming up in
June. Every single co-orker gets a gift card from Quick Trip uh for working for the company. The construction project would be for spring of 26. We just went over this Gant chart the other day. I said, "Yep, we are good to start uh
spring of 26." It's a four-month construction schedule. We're estimated to be around $2 million development improvement project and then obviously coordination with the city and neighbors which was discussed in our PAT meeting to cut down on road conflict and construction activities. The other thing
I want to point out um Joel will you go back to the very first slide? Uh we did discuss with engineering that our goal is to stripe on 15th um a right turn lane, a go forward lane and on 15th uh
put a center line in and be able to so people know where their turn lanes are and where they're go forward so that we don't create congestion. So we did receive that back from our engineering team uh this week and are good to go to provide striping for the community on
this street. All right, that's all I have and then I will answer any questions as you guys uh have. All right. Thank you, Lisa. Uh I She kicked this one off. When can I apply
for that part job? It sounds like a great company. I know it is. As a customer, I think it'll be great for our community to have Quick Trip available and the job opportunity will be great for people. That's one thing that everybody's been talking
about. We need more jobs. And so, I'm just looking forward to seeing this come to fruition. All right. Thank you, Carrie and Jamie. Somebody from the community How many stores you guys actually build in a year?
We actually build approximately depends on the year but anywhere from 25 to 45. So I know 26 is closer to the 45. All right. Thank you Scott. Um I watched the uh u
planning uh commission the public hearing on it. Uh there was no good comment on that. I think everything was hammered out pretty well there. So I'm very happy to see this. Yeah. Um I attended that planning
and I'm glad I did like all the way down. I appreciate that one of the things that was brought up in that. One thing that I've been asked to just
see if it's possible on that south corner where the BM ends is it possible to curve it up just kind of following sidewalk. Is that possibility?
I will bring it back to engineering and see what they can do to potentially like curve it. Whether The other thing that could be done is some additional maybe a larger landscaping tree or something to create there, but we'll see what we can do in regards to kind of extending the
Yeah, I know there's there's there's some people that have expressed a myriad of concerns and it seems like that particular one would be a nice defense extension
was never brought up just the firm itself. I think the concern was just further down as people come out. So if you could take that back that's the only thing I you know like I said from what I
heard at the planning zoning meeting I mean I really appreciate the fact that our people were our citizens and this is reflected in what I'm see but you know compromise is great I
love to see Mr. uh Mr. Mayor, uh thanks for this wonderful feedback, but uh this is remember we're doing the motion for the uh preliminary preliminary and final plat here. Um, so I just want to make sure before anybody motions that we're
still on task for uh the agenda item here and I can cover this. Uh, so the public hearing for Quick Trip uh, land use application 2025-3 Willowree Commons fifth edition preliminary and final plat was held at the May 19th uh, 2025 planning uh,
commission meeting. The subject property platted area was 2.2 2 acres is proposed to be lot one block one uh Willow Creek Commons fifth edition uh Quick Trip provided the required information
um per city code 152.21 uh data for preliminary plat this is originally this was originally platted in October 14th 2004 as Willow Creek Commons West uh the 10day public hearing notification was advertised in the lawn
area review uh commencing on May 6 and property property owners within 350 ft of uh 1400 Commerce Drive Southeast were mailed to public uh notice letter. Uh the commission is recommending the council to approve resolution 2025
uh-25, a resolution approving the Willow Creek Commons fifth edition preliminary and final plat uh at the meeting tonight. As far as the fiscal impact, uh just staff time and the public hearing notice expense and then alternatives. Um
none approval of the resolution 2025-25 resolution approving Willow Creek uh comments fifth edition preliminary plat is contingency in the purchase agreement with Quick Trip Incorporated. So, thank you, Mr. Mayor, for letting me squeeze in that staff
report. And I'm uh looking for a motion to approve the um the preliminary and final plat. All right. Entertain a motion. Motion by Palava, second by Miller. Any further discussion?
I think this is how deep 9.9 I just was curious. I was looking through everything to one slope. It depends on how much it probably geese anyway. Just to add, Bolton Mink works
on a lot of our projects. So, just so you guys are aware, we use them for a lot of engineering projects. All right. Thank you. And Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry, who motioned that again? And Second by
Miller. And then all in favor? All opposed. All right. Consider approval of a conditional use permit number 2025-03. A conditional use permit to locate a convenience facility and
commercial car wash at 11515th Avenue Southeast lot one block one Willow Creek Commons fifth edition. Cory Henza. Uh thank you Mr. Mayor and Council, uh, the public hearing for Quick Trip, uh, land use application
2025-03, conditional use permit, city code, chapter 153, uh, B2, highway and business service. Uh, 6 C, commercial car wash, D, convenience facility, was held at the May 19th, 2025 planning commission meeting. Uh, Quick Trip is
requesting approval of the CUP to move forward with the purchase of lot one, block one, Willow Creek Commons, fifth edition. The property has been zoned B2 since July 15, 2004. Based upon the convenience facility and commercial car
wash, Quick Trip complies with city code. Uh the again the 10-day public hearing notification was advertised in the lawnill area uh review commencing May 6 and the property owners within 350 ft of 1400 Commerce Drive Southeast were
mailed the public notice letter. uh public as uh council member Wormer Christian stated um public comments were received prior and at the public hearing. Uh comments included concerns for lighting, increased traffic,
screening, and decreasing property values. Uh as Lisa just stated, uh Quick Trip is being very proactive and working with the city and the community uh to rectify or to uh to rectify them. Uh as
you previously stated, uh the commission is recommending the council to approve conditional use permit 2025-3 with the condition of the installation of a type three barricade at the end of 1400 block Connecticut
Drive Southeast. uh fiscal impact uh the public hear the staff time and public hearing notice uh expense um alternatives uh none approval
of the conditional use permit 2025-03 city code chapter 153 B2 highway and business service uh see commercial car wash and deconvenience facility as contingency in the purchase agreement uh with Quicktrip
Uh in your attachments here, uh you're going to see their land use application, uh conditional use permit. Um there was a a request or there was public comment uh from a uh Joy Churnney from 1509 uh
Connecticut Drive Southeast. Um that was presented at the planning and zoning commission meeting. uh our city administrator uh responded to those comments at that at the at the hearing. Uh as you saw earlier, a rendered site plan, site improvement
plans, and the conditional and the actual conditional use permit 2025. Uh Mr. Mayor, I'd like to you can please open it up for discussion. All right. Thank you, Corey. Uh
Jamie, you have anything for There were some questions on car wash after morning. I had to stand over,
Lisa. Is there something you could add to that? It's very minimal use on the overnight hours. Um, typically we don't we don't see it except for people who work third shift possibly. the opportunity to sleep during the day.
Yeah. To be able to use the services as any other uh you know person who has possibly ship. So that's why we offer it because we're trying to accommodate uh all the different services and people
who work in various uh jobs that you know they operate at that hour and it's very at that time. As to that point, we do have the fence and the B which also provides a noise
barrier direct. Typically I I will when people live closer to major roads, the noise actually from the roads is usually a
larger than what we put up on the car and that is why the exit door is facing 19 because the building actually blocks much of the noise along with now and landscaping. Can you have both doors down the same
time during the whole operation of the car wash? I think your new Craig, one of your new Craig buildings has that. It is not advised because due to humidity and due to the fact that the
airflow in the car wash um typically is very restricted at that point and so our engineers do not advers that all you Jamie. All right, Scott. Brian,
I'm good. I I do have a question as far as like the uh no outlet sign. Is that on the city's responsibility to do to reflect the east side of Connecticut towards the west? As far as that was brought up during
planning and zoning. My understanding was the west side. They were concerned of people passing um quick trip and turning right right on to. But as long as we got something high viz, but is that landing on the city or
is that on that would be condition with the type three barricade? All right. So, we're squared away there. Um All right. I do kind of have a question, Lisa. I, you know, this is just to throw it out
there, but that north entrance on 15th Avenue, is there a way that you could maybe make it where it's like Elco where you have it almost slanted out to encourage it to go back to the highway? Like here, you would have it
almost like a J that points it towards 19. So the first 15 on 15 pretty much. Yeah. What I can do is since you're going to bring stuff back to engineering, Yeah. I
can show you. I can reference that. We prefer So the more restrict in and out. There are concerns that that's when people miss entrances and potentially don't use the four that
we're providing. So, the goal is when you have full access on all of them and they're wide enough for two vehicles to be able to pass safely. Um, we don't like to restrict it if at all possible.
Um, but yes, Tom, you can show me and I can because I know that it was also brought up to take the fencing and go uh north towards Commerce from Connecticut that white final finding during planning and
zoning where it didn't intrude on the uh drainage for the storm retention. Yeah. And I think our concern there would be if I can ask what the benefit would be um when there's no houses to the west
of that it's the pond and industrial users. Uh on the on the other side of that, I like how you extended this out because the reason why it's brought up is because some people might think that that road on Connecticut might be going
somewhere else like further down into 15. So if they do see that portion of the road, they might go down there and go further into the residential area. I will tell you as a first time uh the first time I visited
Ldale, I did not even turn down there because I I could see that it was a turnound and so as someone coming into the community hopefully people like can see that oh that's not the concern. Yeah. I just want to
make sure we're touching base on everything. So, all right. Well, that's about all that I had for for this. Um, I know that we talked about a diesel island, too. And, um, you know, if a car wash was needed,
but it looks like you got the diesel pumps on the outside, so a truck and trailer, like if you have like a 3500 with a trailer behind, you can still get in there. So, that's my main concern. And we prefer honestly closer
to typically that's where they're headed a lot of time. Yeah. All right. Well, I got nothing else. Entertain a motion. Make a motion to approve condition.
Motion by Valava. So, what are the conditions? Just the type. Well, that would be the conditions and this is how it gets construed. But you guys already added what was on planning and zoning to this, right?
Yeah, we were just approving essentially what the uh the only condition is a type three barricade uh and a storm water agreement that that we're working on um with Quick Trip Legal. Other conditions would be the screening
of the fence and the BM and then just allowing to be constructed. So this is the time where you're approving the project. So if there's conditions they need to be imposed now. We have concern the triangle and not
being able to see to the south. So that way correct. Yeah. So it's going to be a very short I mean there
is the concern is headlight headlight I could more a larger round, not super high, but we could extend and round it out.
And that's kind of what I'm likewalk. So, how tall do you guys want the BM? Because a height needs to be stated. We can't Oh, we thought it was three high. Oh, redo it. Well, again, this is this is the point where we're setting the
parameters of project. And typically, we would not allow anything in the sight triangle which is 30 feet back from the property line. I can appreciate the the concerns of of lights. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just making two foot
min what are you what are you gaining if a car is low enough the headlights are going to be so low that they're not going to be an issue for neighboring areas but you know taller vehicles, you might have taller lights, but they're going to
be, you know, four foot, you know, three, four foot, but at the same time, you got to think of your your your termination of that mound. You know, what it's going to be looking like over that course. So, I think it'd be a wide termination is
all it's going to be. It looks going to look like it's just sloughing off sideways by the time you get down to your curve. I just another thing about the BM to consider is the snow storage. We have one trail in Ash Street Northeast that
has a BM next to it for the whole way and it's a nightmare to plow in the winter. It's a connection of our trail system. I would assume that's how we treat all the other ones. I just think we should revisit this car wash because I mean you already got a
car wash in town that you know we put a whole bunch of things on the CP and and then you know pitching it back to where it's quite chip and different standards.
I have a question. Are all the car washes open 24 hours? They Well, uh, what'sies could, but he doesn't because it would invite unwanted people into his car wash. He doesn't want to do that. So, that brings up another
conversation where it's like those trips really need to be 247. But again, I guess I question why is he why would it invite unwanted people? And my question is if it's inviting unwanted people, how? Because you can take oil containers
and dump it down his drains. He has he has a self serve as opposed to an automatic and our doors are closed until you actually pay and have a code to get in or have an app. We are working on our car wash app. So no one's getting in the car
wash until they have actually paid and have been given the approval for that door to open and then once the car goes in the door shuts down. Yep. Both sides. both sides until they go to dry. Until they go to dry and one opens, the
outside one opens. And if there's a car behind it, it will open for the car behind it. But if there's not a car behind it, it'll stay shut until the next person pays and it's going to go in. Right. Plus another addition, we have lots of
security cameras on our sites and this is one that is specifically probably has anywhere from two to four cameras on it. I also think of the noise that it generate because you're going to open up the front door while you're going through the drying process to allow
another car, right? But once they're in, and you guys have probably seen this, once you're in, it closes behind as But again, it's not like I'm trying to fight you on this. It's just the fact that, you know, if if this is what we're
going to accept with Quick Trip, then we need to go back to the conditional use. Yeah. And I just pulled up that conditional use permit and um let's see. Building should be developed for the regulations. Um using the access road go to the east.
The interior wash all automatic car wash bays will complete the entire wash and dry cycle inside of the building with the doors closed. There was a residential setback um as far as I can see. What was a setback? Uh
that one was 200 ft and that was a reszone that was not already zoned this way in a conditional use for 20 years. We actually amended that. Um and the reason for that was so basically the only condition being set back 200 ft is
um is that the doors are closed. can be open 247. They've got vacuums outside. Um so that would be really the only I guess thing to revisit would be if we wanted to not require them to to close the door
during the wash and dry cycle. Yeah. But you got residents faced right south of it. Whereas wetsies you don't they're on the north side. I'm just saying we got to be fair all the way around. So that's all I have to
say. Somebody wants to make a motion motion. Sorry. Sorry. I forgot. Yeah. So, we're we're not we're not adding anything. As written. Okay. Any further
discussion? All in favor? All opposed. All right. Consider approval of resolution 2025-26, a resolution approving the site plan for Quicktrip to be located at 11515th Avenue Southeast Lot One, Block
One, Willow Creek Commons, Fifth Edition. Cory Huber. Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, the planning commission reviewed and discussed land use application 2025-03 at the May 19th, 2025 meeting.
The applicant Quick Trip uh real estate manager uh Lisa Watson is proposing to purchase and locate a Quick Trip on the 2.2 acres of the vacant property. The proposed parcel project will consist of of a 9,176 foot convenience facility. The
project will bring, as she stated, 25 to 35 uh permanent new jobs to town and diversify the tax base uh based on convenience facility uh and commercial car wash. They comply with
city code. So, location address uh 11515th Avenue Southeast as we discussed earlier in the meeting with the preliminary and final plat one block one, Willow Creek Commons, fourth edition. Uh proposed legal description
lot one block one Willow Creek uh comments fifth edition parcel ID uh the owner applicant uh Quick Trip Incorporated. The applicant is Quick Trip the applicant is Quick Trip store engineer Emily Hellwig. Uh the sale and
closing uh would be mid June 2025 after the city approvals which is a purchase agreement contingency. uh engineer engineering uh Bolton Mink completed the survey and platwork uh request the applicant is uh
requesting site uh plan approval to allow the 9,176qt building which would house a convenience store and car wash. Uh so we just get into the site building details, the the dimensions of the
9,170 ft building, uh the pavement, uh 50,661 square feet. Uh we discussed the road accesses, the uh entrance exit. Uh Lisa covered the sign uh the
signs the LED lighting uh exterior exterior as she s uh presented in her power uh her PowerPoint. Uh brick facade colors green metal roof almond facial sophet as she stated earlier pumps eight
fueling station 16 uh provided the landscape or provided with the screening along Connecticut Drive southeast. Uh number of tree plantings 26. Like I said, the LED uh lighting plan. Uh total number of parking stalls
47. ADA stalls two, vacuum stalls two, canopy stalls 16, and parking stalls 27. Uh we get more into as we stated as uh in the staff report for the conditional use permit. Uh B2 highway and business service district since
2004. uh just approve the conditional uses commercial car wash and convenience facility. Uh uh the site plan complies uh with all the uh city code as far as setbacks uh lot coverage height
requirements. Uh the comprehens comprehensive plan land use map guides the subject prop property as B2 highway and B business district project will increase and diversify the lawn tax base bring new jobs to town uh allow new
business uh to the town to become operational and allow a new business to come to town and um to meet their timeline. uh utilities and gradings uh covered by our engineer team.
Um a water 6 inch water service a block one lot one block one is existing already. Um Quick Trip has been wonderful to work with. Uh they have an exceptional team. Uh we've gone through all the city
codes, the site plan reviews. uh they've been working with this the whole time. And uh from the uh planning and zoning commission meeting, uh the planning commission uh is recommending that the city council uh consider approval of resolution
2025-26, a resolution re a resolution approving the site plan for Quick Trip to be located at 1151 15th Avenue Southeast L block one block one Willow Creek Commons fifth edition. Uh Lisa is here if there's any additional questions
for this approval. Uh but um Mr. Mayor, um I'm seeking a motion to approve the uh the site plan tonight. All right. Thank you, Corey Scott. [Laughter] Jamie
entertain motion second motion by Miller second by any further discussion all in favor opposed motion carries thank you Lisa thank
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. There will be a grand opening ribbon cutting which you can be a part of, but we also at that grand opening will be giving back to the community. That's our first opportunity to actually pour back into
the community. So, uh our person will be reaching out once we get to that point. You still owe me a boneless rib sandwich. All right. Thanks, Lisa. Thank you. Review and discuss Macathun's fine foods
request to relocate the civic organization recycling program dumpsters. Corey Hen Zaba. Uh thank you uh Mr. Mayor and members of the council. Uh McInte's fine food store uh director Greg Lind uh reached out to the city
requesting to relocate the recycling program containers from their parking lot. Uh Lynn said that the recycling bins are becoming a huge nuisance for customers employees uh and does not recall seeing any
organizations coming to check on them. Uh staff have discussed the relocation request and is recommending the following options for the council. Uh option one uh suns setting the recycling program
due to it running its course. Um option two relocate the containers to the compost site which is under video surveillance via security camera. Uh option three relocate the containers to JC Park. uh parking lot
which is not under video surveillance. So then the attachments here um there's a pictures from 52025 Mac and parking lot. Uh I know
Joel just shot the took the pics um I think uh yesterday and which is on your up on the on your on the desk there. So staff is requesting the council to review and discuss the request from McInth's fine foods and approve a
relocation option or to sunset the program. Uh Mr. Mayor. All right. Thank you, Corey. Brian, I can appreciate where they're coming from. It's been a problem for years. They're not
wrong. With that said, people to see it go. This is a nice benefit forunately. I think it's bins go away. Recycle bins are
going to get real full real fast. I see it myself. I break down my boxes. My concern like I don't want to put extra burden. No doubt about it. I was just there um the other day. The presence of a city
truck with two city staff does not deter people from throwing their daily household garbage in these bins. Until I asked her, um, "Excuse me, ma'am. This is for cardboard." So,
well, I mean, not just that, but Now we got its private property farm fields and stuff up there. There's less less wind. It's a shame. It's a shame that we've gotten to this point
because it's a nice perk for community organizations, but it's a self All right. Thank you, Gary. Well, as a member of the Lions, we appreciate
having the opportunity to be assigned to it for a quarter. Our quarter isn't until later this year. So, you know, and when I am out, I pick stuff up if I see it flying around, you know, but some people are just dumping junk and bags of
stuff, car seats, whatever. broken whatevers. That is not the intention of this program. This is for cardboard recycling. It was awesome when we moved in, you know, break down all your moving boxes and recycle, but uh I mean this has been
posted and talked about on the Facebook page in the community for years. It's a hot topic. I also would hate to see it go, but I agree. This looks horrible. This is not the image we want for our town. People have taken advantage of it for too long.
posted by other people. But if you keep with this behavior, it's going to disappear. And now I think we're maybe at that point. And I don't think it's a good location at JC. That's way too big of a park. I don't think the nature presums have helped with it, but it's
just not And it's not just one person. It's the community needs to step up and do a better job. All right, Jamie. Well, when we first started, the reason that we kick back is that organization
went up there and took care of the dumpsters for us. And my dad mentioned when he first started ladies took care of it and the kids came up there at least once a week and they took out the garbage. They put it in a dumpster. They flatten the boxes. It was maintained
then but gradually over the years we got a little more relaxed and a little more relaxed till now here here's a free check and you don't even have to check the dumpsters. We can go back to the way it's originally written and enforce that somebody goes up there to check it. And another thing that we have to keep in
mind, the people that are throwing garbage up there aren't going to care. They're going to start throwing it in local businesses dumpsters. They're going to drive down Garfield Avenue, any of these side roads, and just start chucking their garbage out because they don't really care where they throw their
garbage. And um I really am upset that a Caldwell Banker realtor had the audacity. That's bad advertising. I suspect that that was
some garage sales people buy stuff come Monday morning at the miller and it's full of people garbage. I've seen people pull up the bars dumpster in the middle of the day while they're working to chuck their garbage
in there. It's not just recycling every while. They're asking us a little bit. I think it would require to talk with TSI to see what they're willing to do, but uh that is a good idea.
It kind of seems like either we try to figure something out on our end or we get rid of the program all together. So I think this is a conversation needed for I guess a few things to consider. I would agree this is a self-inflicted wound. Um this has been a known topic
for years. Um and I would agree that when the program started the original intent of the program was This was to provide funds to organizations that didn't have the capabilities to raise funds like the the Wheatland Wedies, um
the the Lions Club, uh maybe a youth sports team, but now we have the same same organizations just doing it every four months. We have no new applications. It's always the Lions, the Legion, the Golden Aers. Um you know, the library has been has benefited from
it. Um I know I was store the other day talking to Lynette and all that garbage is going right into our parking lot. So now our staff has to go and pick it up. Um you know if we do look at a location um you know now public works is going to be in charge of having to maintain the site location for it. We're have to plow
it out in the winter. Um what what priority does that become? I mean there's going to be times when they're they're not accessible. Um you know maybe it is multiple locations through town but you know DSI would need to need to sign off on that.
But unfortunately, it's a self-inflicted wound and the people that are abusing it caused this. Uh when uh when organizations that my daughters were involved with over the years, I've taken truckloads of garbage out of there.
And to that point, Scott has too. I've I have not been involved with it with it in years. Um I have multiple flatbed loads of garbage that wasn't even in the dumpster. I've hauled beds, mattresses, headboards, couches. I know you hold
worse than that, too. Um I've I've found dead animals uh including uh dead household pets that have been been put in garbage bags. We had a load of um uh Max found a whole bunch of uh uh chicken
carcasses that have been put in there. Not in the last month. This is this is not a this this is just become an opportunity to dump to dump whatever and and there's been comments
made about the security camera there. I bought that and unfortunately we can't get good pictures of license plates and stuff like that because you know I I I have a limited financial you know Scott it's it's a fake camera
is it okay it's okay I just spoiled the secret but it doesn't matter I I think that we should give I think that we have to talk
with DSI about this. We're going to end up calling them anyway. Let's get them removed, get it recycled, cleaned out, and then we reconvene with them and say, "Hey, you know, either we still want to do this program, but on a smaller size or somewhere else, but these are our
concerns because I mean there is a lot of concerns through city staff, but I just think that to completely get rid of it." I mean, I know I talked to PSI and they said Math has never called them. So, I mean, I I think that they have to get involved. Uh they want to uh they
want to try to find something and whether it's dropping off a couple during one day and then coming back and picking it up, whatever it may be, I I want to seriously give them the opportunity because it is spelled out in their contract to do. So, does the council have preferred
locations? Well, you know, we we'd have to consider that too, you know. I mean, we just heard from if we're going to go talk to DSI, we should be like, "Hey, this is where we want it or here's what we're thinking." I Well, right. But also, if we're going to scatter it with other
businesses around, I think we should take some due diligence and see who would be interested in taking a dumpster to for recycling. I just think there's a lot here to work. We have to keep in mind, too, if we're gonna we're gonna have a
smaller multiple I can't imagine that's not going to cut into the amount organizer also for the organization keeping up with it. They're going to have to make multiple
location stops to clean it up. And I don't know if that's a lot more time. Recycling is provided for free by the county. Every every resident has it. Yep. This was this was only to provide funds for this was this
was a fundraising effort for originally for youth groups. That's what it was. Like I said, the impact is going to be a lot of recycle because it's every week. I can tell you
right now the amount of cardboard that everybody's going to feel at the end of the day have to go back. I agree. There's a lot of what here and I'm absolutely open to having those
conversations, but like you said, I think we don't know what they can offer. We don't know what they're willing to offer as far as locations. So, it's almost like Our only
uh I asked that they uh are able to stay there till June 30 at the end of this quarter. So this current recycling team can can fulfill their their quarter. Yeah. They agreed to that. Yes. Can you remind us who the current
organization is? Uh, the Golden Aers, I believe. Correct. When selecting a site, I would like the council to be aware of one thing. That camera was put up at the compost site so we could get our head back above water because we have the entire county using
our site for free. I feel this would invite chaos to that site. Again, um I I these are things I don't want to have to suggest for our city, but if that is the spot that it has to be,
um we're going to have to control it somehow. It's going to have to be gated. It's going to have to have our I mean, the this is insane. then you're taking away access. So then to me that's just not an option to
put ahead of it won't happen Fair point. Well, I'd just say let's let's get them done, but let's uh I'll call DS. I'll talk with them.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is all stuff can be handled at the staff level. I have no problem reaching out to them, but you know, I think the council needs to provide us direction. Do you have a preferred location of where you would like to see it? Let's just make it an agenda item and then discuss from there because maybe we're just going to vote
to get rid of the program altogether. So that would be what I would consider. Because we're just voting on removing the dumpsters. We're not voting on removing the program. So let us reconvene at another date to see if the program's even worth I don't think we
need a motion to move them. being told to move them like council member Wormer Gersian said the discussion the decision by the council is do we keep the program yes or no and if so does the council have a preferred site that we can have a plan in place if DSI is going to come to
the council meeting it can already be worked out I I think before they come the information I would like to see is what we talk about do they have the capability dumpster.
Yes, they do. Are they willing to entertain? I'd have to ask them. Yes. Substantially more of inconvenience for them as was stated earlier. Absolutely. But how many dumpsters probably
Yeah. So I would say before we bring your point us are they willing to enterain because you know the question comes down to would like to see the program I mean yes from
standpoint you know we have tighter But if the answer is it's got to be one big location or not at all but I person this is all Great. This is what staff needs. Y and then if we're
changing dumpster amount, what will the financial benefit? Will they change lower the amount that the organization? Well, that would have to be renegotiated in the contract. And I guess you know there
if we say hey guys we're done are they going to charge us because they bought them from Yeah. So it's not like they took these things out of their own inventory. This is additional inventory that they weren't sto well they didn't they weren't told about
it like Macons never called them and said there was an issue they just had a couple of guys check in on it every once in a while and then you know whatever no news yeah I mean the program with is a city program. It was initiated
and implemented by the city uh when we had waste management. I think that's why they called the city because it's we're the ones that select the teams for handing out the applications. I think I think those are the
on the question. Another thing to think of is businesses. Is there are there parking lots built to handle this? That's the other problem. All right.
tear that place up. I won't know. Then what about the uh the aspect I know I know it's all been at max for a long time, but uh dumpster screening and everything else in accordance to our city code. Now we're going to have
dumpsters in various locations and parking lots out out not not yeah if you put other business park I'll make a motion to terminate the program at the end of this
motion by it second by Miller any further discussion Seeing none. All in favor? I. All oppose. No. Like we got to do the right thing and we
got to get DSI involved. So I I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm I want some more information. If there's a way to save it, I'd like to accept that question. I can't think of a viable
location. That's my whole problem. Maybe the Legion will house it. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Um Well, I I suppose let's table this. A motion to terminate. Fails. Yeah. 32.
with the understanding that two go. So June 12th table maybe about two weeks. Yeah, that's direction from the council. Okay, we can reach out to Would you
guys bring us big enough? All right. So, Max. [Music] Well, let's uh get a motion going to
table this until June 12th. Since it failed, I'll make a motion to table until June 12th. All right. Motion by Miller, second by Worm Excursion. Any further discussion? All in favor? All
opposed. All right, moving on. Consider approval to make a conditional job offer to William Dopp as part-time police officer at step one. Jason Schmidz. Thank you, mayor, members of the council. Um, I was approached by William Dopp who was interested in a part-time
police officer position with the city of Ldale. Uh it was decided to move forward with the part-time position after full-time applicant Zachary Baker was not considered for the full-time position during the background process. William also works full-time as a deputy for the Rice County Sheriff's
Department, which will dramatically speed up the field training process since we already train with the sheriff's department and he is familiar with our city and our software programs. The position will also help cover vacation time reducing the amount of
overtime. So with that, it would be my recommendation to give William do a conditional job offer as a part-time police officer for the city of Ldale on contingent that he passes the background investigation psychological medical exam. So with that, we are probably
about 85 90% complete with background. Everything is looking good and I don't see an issue. All right, great. Thank you, Jason. You got anything to add? Jamie, Scott, Brian, a great interview. He
knows the town, knows our guys, so Sure. I heard the same thing. All right, make a motion. Motion by Miller, second by Wormcersian. All in favor? All opposed. All right. Thank you, Jason. All right. Thank you.
Consider approval to increase library staff hours. Miss Margarite Mor. All right. Hello, Mr. Mayor and city council members. Thank you for giving me a chance to address you tonight. I promise I will be quick. And I just I do want to thank you
all for being supporters of the library. I think like the Legion, it's one of those hearts of the community and I know you all believe in us and what we do. Um, I'm here tonight to ask for added flexibility in the way that our library technicians are paid, allowing each of
them to get paid for up to one added five hour shift per week. Um, right now we have three library technicians. They work 10, 15, and 20 hours per week and that's what they're regularly scheduled
at. And if they work any more than that, they have to comp it and take it at a later time. So, what I would like to do is for up to one shift per week, have them just get paid um without having to comp. Um the most
common instance of this would be when somebody takes a day off. So, person A is on vacation, so person B fills in and does an extra shift. So, in that case, there wouldn't even be a financial impact. Um, but I would like to add an
additional shift um at least through the first through the six weeks of summer reading program, maybe for the rest of the summer for a new um program, Monday Night Magic. Magic the Gathering. It's a card game fun for teens and adults. tell
your friends. Um and and adding a second person on Saturday at least through the summer. Right now we only have one person, but we're a lot busier in the summer, so that would be a four-h hour shift. Um so I calculated the cost. The
first number is just the um if we added 15 hours every week for the rest of the year, which we won't. Um but with added adding nine hours for the summer and an average of one additional five hour shift for the rest of the
year. It comes in under $4,000. Uh the money would come from the library's reserves. So, does anyone have any questions? All right. Thank you, Margarite. Jamie, agreed. Scott Brian,
this has been discussed multiple times. Some of the concerns that led up to this were people working alone, especially, you know, a lot is a safe community. We all know that but no place is
100%. So we just felt you know as a board we discussed aspect make sure there's two people at all times you know I mean read the news libraries are now stocking our It's only a matter of
timebody at any time. No questions asked. And this is an up. It's not a we're going to do this every week schedule. The library's 100% behind it. All right. Thank you, Brian. Curry. I agree.
adding some hours to help make sure we have staff available to help awesome. All right, councel. I'll entertain a motion. Motion by wormish second by Va. Any further discussion? So, as far as
the number of hours, are we up to the 15 or so? That's understanding for clarity. All right. All in favor? All opposed. All right. Thank you, Margarite, the
library board, everybody that works for the library. Consider approval of application for payment number five in the amount of 100,000 or sorry, wow, $108,78.85 to Metcon for the city hall project. Joel Eric. All right. All
right. As was just stated, this is application for payment number five for the city hall remodel project. Items to be paid, general and temp conditions, the final cleanup, roofing, joint sealants, uh windows, stuckco, and ephus patching for the new windows that were installed on the south
side of the building, uh flooring, carpet, and the LVT uh signage in in the building, the operable wall, the rooftop rooftop unit controls, HVAC, uh rental equipment that that they had
to purchase for for the project, uh electrical and low voltage improvements, and then uh also paid on on this application for payment is change order number four. As far as the project work is essentially done, items that need to be
completed in the short term are uh the electrical switches need to be installed. Uh tomorrow we are having Bevcom and Tech Support of Minnesota come over and get all the phone lines all ready to go. Bevcom is over there today. We'll be
bringing the server over there, our firewall and our static IP address that that we need for a lot of the stuff that that we work with. Uh furniture delivery and installation has been going on the last two days. They'll
be wrapping up tomorrow. Uh exterior signage needs to be completed and then the flag poles installation and the lighting they were delivered to the site yesterday and I believe uh weather permitting public works will get them installed um next
week. So we are um upstairs but it's getting pretty scarce up there. Um, basically once that server is out of here at 10 o'clock tomorrow, um, we can't operate out of here. We don't have VPNs on our computers or anything like that. So to
access that, we will be, um, moving up there and probably by the end of the day working out of there tomorrow. Um, and then basically June 2nd and that's city hall. I think one more one more thing that
that needs to get purchased is a um a payment drop box. I was just gonna ask where am I supposed to bring you can bring it here for now but no I don't want I am one of those I write my check and I'm not paying extra.
Yes, I make a motion. Uh so overall uh the project is we've had change orders of just over $23,000. Um the project currently uh as of now is under budget by about 130,000 or almost 10%. And that is not including
the sale of this building. So it's a that's a positive. Uh alternatives would be not to approve the pay application and then included the staff's report is application for payment number five. So if we don't
make a call from All right. Thank you, Scott. Glad to see it getting so close. Hey, we have an empty building. Brian, I like the underie. Sorry. Jamie,
entertain a motion. Motion by Vava. Sec. Any further discussion? All in favor? All opposed? Motion carries. review and discuss the proposal submitted in response to the city's RFP
for the contracted building official inspection services. Uh earlier this year, the council requested staff to draft an RFP for contracted building official and inspection services that was approved at the April 24th meeting. Proposals were
due early this month on the 16th. received proposals from Seblock Inspections, uh, Metro West, Inspectron, and Safe Bill. Summary of each proposal. Cory Block, he's been a building official inspector for 21
years. State delegation agreement for inspections on state licensed facilities. Uh, has the authority or I'm jurisdiction with the state fire marshal for fire sprinkler plan review and inspections. Uh, he is the only staff out of one out of 10. or familiar with
with Blondale. As far as experience, he's been in the center for 21 years, Cleveland for 20, Montgomery for 11, Hidleberg for six, and a new Craig. Uh he is the uh fire sprinkler ahj Madison
Lake. He's the building official only. Uh as far as needing any consultants, um he said it's unlikely. Um but do get sick, take vacations. He's got qualified incredible um consultants or subs that he would use that are
either certified building officials or Building Official Limited. In regards to reviewing plans for new homes, he said on average it would take about five days. And then as far as fees, uh that is in the uh included spreadsheet. Metro West, they
have adequate staff to complete all plan review and required inspections. They have a staff of 20 10 CBOS, four LBOs. They have three inspectors, three office personnel. Uh Mike Renolu would be the city's building official. He's got 10 years
experience. Um they're able to set up and use learn any electronic permitting so we wouldn't have to switch from our program that we just renewed our contract for. Uh two day max for follow-up calls and requests. Inspections would be
completed within one to two days, maybe three to four at uh during the peak months. 7 to 10 days for residential plan review and then up to 15 to 20 days for commercial plan review. Familiar with the erosion control measure measures uh and then fees as stated
earlier on the attached spreadsheet inspectron. Uh Mark Wrai would be our designated building official. Uh he's the building official for 32 jurisdictions and um they assist on four on a part-time basis. They accept hard
copy permit plans and then also via citizen serve. On staff they have a fire marshall specialist and then a septic system specialist as well. As far as a timeline for plan review and inspections over the counter and small reviews could
be the same day. larger projects would be seven to 10 days and then inspections would be done the day after the inspection is requested. They indicated they have not served Lndale uh but have served much of Dakota County assisted in Rice and Scott
and then also Northfield and Prior Lake. U staff worked on several residential projects in the area during the early 2000s during the height of the boom and then as stated earlier their fees are attached to the spreadsheet. Uh Safe Built is formerly Minsspec. They serve
37 cities in Minnesota and then also the Shakab Midwalk and Sue community. They serve as building official for 24 cities, the designated building official for 23 and then they they provide supplemental capacities uh for 14
communities. They have three dedicated building officials that would be available to Lndale. As far as specific delegation, similar to ones stated previously, uh they're able to review and inspect do inspections for public buildings in
state licensed facilities. They can do plumbing and plumbing review and inspections on systems that serve the public and then uh also fire suppression systems and fire alarms, state required fire inspections through the Minnesota Department of Health and Human Services. Uh those
licensed facilities as well. Uh they are familiar with I work again the permit software that that we use here and then fees would be attached. Um, basically the fiscal impact is going to be the difference between the rates that we're charged currently with Minsspect or Gary
Stabber and the selected consultant. Uh, based on the rates, uh, the following would be the differences. Uh, Metro West is about $6,900 less, Corey Block about 14,000 more, Spectron about 16,000 more,
and Safe Bill uh, a little over 23,000. I did include the proposal for context and then also um went through based off of our fee schedule what uh we
would pay the the inspector and then what that overall cost difference is which is what I I just stated. I guess unless the council has any questions um
recommendation will be to decide if we're going to do interviews or just go with the selection of a firm based off of what we we see here. The timeline did call for if inspector I'm sorry interviews were going to be conducted
they'd be conducted the week of June 9th then with the selection at the end of the month city council meeting believe the the 90 days ends mid July with our current. All right. Thank you, Ryan.
I don't know. in the I'm sorry I don't want to interrupt but the fee difference would come the city would just receive that much less revenue. This is a service that's paid for by building permits. I agree. Jamie Scott. Um I would
say that this is supposed to be a temporary thing forward. So I would agree that necessary Okay, I'll entertain a motion. All right, got a second. Second by worm excursion. Any further
discussion? All in favor? All opposed. All right, motion carries. Consider approval of a lease agreement between the city of Lonsdale and Skywarm. Uh well, the council um agreed to allow Skyworn to lease a
portion of the the new city hall. Um this agreement is very similar to the agreement that we have in place with Evergreen Therapy Solutions. The term would be one year annual rent of $1. city to furnish utilities accept the
internet. If taxes would become due, which is unlikely, they would be the responsibility of of Skyworn. They would not become taxable if again they would even be imposed until 2027. Skyworn is the only use allowed.
Parking would be on the the west access or the the west driveway and access through the southwest door. There's doors on the the west side. Uh no improvements to be made
without city approval. Uh no signage. Uh they'd be responsible for any repairs above and beyond normal wear and tear. We'd be responsible for maintenance and repairs to the utilities. The lease cannot be
sublet. Uh the defaults again are the same as our our current lease agreement. pass due 15 days. Um 30 days or more of not complying with the lease agreement. Um not allowed to have hazardous conditions exist on the premise. Uh city
is not in default until after 30-day notice. Um other default by Skyworn uh remedies. City can resolve the default and bill Skyworn. City can terminate lease agreement inspection. City can enter the lease area for reasonable business reasons after providing
notice. Uh city to have liability insurance based off of state statute. Skyworn to have liability insurance. No leans can be filed against the property. As far as termination,
Skyworn can terminate the lease upon 30-day written notice. And the only way that the city can terminate the lease would be if uh default was not cured within the stated timeline. Fiscal impact is unknown
but would be the cost of any utilities used while they're occupying the premise. Alternatives will be revised as desired by the council or not enter into the proposed lease agreement. Right. Thank you. I think
it's a couple months ago. Not necessarily for this, but I was just curious building there's no property tax collected on it. Am I correct? Uh if if the building is leased out then it becomes taxable. That's what that's my
question. So but just for the portions or correct. Okay. So it's just based on amount of space. Yep. Okay. So what and the county assessor would would rate it. Okay. So we have evergreen in there but
they're responsible for uh Yep. Should or when they become due. Correct. Okay. I just wanted on too many things. Skyworn, is there anything you guys want to add? I know that uh you guys have got
those new motion by second by all in favor. All opposed. All right. Discuss the audio system for the new
city hall city council chambers. Jo uh well at the last council meeting this was uh staff was directed by the council to add this to the agenda. So um guess I'll turn it over to you guys to see what you want. I get so many
comments and then even after the last city council meeting there was two emails that I had received that had it said the audio is terrible for these meetings and I think that when we spend the money for a new town hall I think
that we really need to look at how we can increase transparency by making sure that people on the live streams and people in attendance can see whatever we're seeing uh like this quick trip slideshow for instance And uh I just think our audio needs to be to
to be worked on. Um $130,000 is what the project ended up saving. So I mean you got money to to do something. But yeah, I'm all for whatever council con kind of wants to
extend. I think we've all heard enough of this and this is something that I brought up back in January that we should be talking about it again. end of May and almost getting ready to move in and I just got a text that said I can't
hear you. So that really validates everything I just said. So I'm going to pass this around for discussion. I I think that we should get uh something involved uh or somebody involved about
uh kind of making the equipment trying to get better equipment uh working with audio and then also uh possibly even offering like a an AV marketing part-time position to help out
maybe. Um I know other cities do that quite a bit, but I would like this to be changed. I I want this to be good when we start going over to the new city hall. Can I add to that? I think that um I have a background with all that kind of
stuff. Um there could be a very simple setup that includes not just the audio but also video so that when we're connecting for something like a PowerPoint presentation it can be shared with a picture very very easily um with
very high quality sophisticated controlling systems that are also very very user friendly. So anybody here could be trained on it like that. flick switch, turn it on. You want to do a PowerPoint, you hit a button and it pops up on the live stream and picture. Um,
just makes it a seamless experience with people watching at home as well as possib there are countless things you can do. The prices have come down so much so that it can be done fairly
inexpensively. So, Tyler and myself are more than happy to All right. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate that. Uh Jamie, I'll throw this at you now. I've heard comments from a lot of people
that monitors can actually other projects down the road where they don't have the PowerPoint presentation, but they have the information in there. We just read it marker before
it's high expense to set it up, but once it's up. All right, Scott. Well, I know that the uh as far as the the inperson u 85 in person you
um as far as the audio goes um during co we upgraded equipment so that we could live stream and everything and it seemed to uh be working relatively well for for
everything. Um until recently we hadn't had that I'm aware of had issues other than feedback that that was an ongoing issue. So I think some stuff was being dialed back or turned back to avoid the feedback issue. But the acoustics in
this facility are significantly different than new council chambers. Got seven foot, you know, ceilings in here. You got 10 and a half foot ceilings in the facility. Double the size. Um, I would be a proponent of taking
what we have and seeing if we can get it to work. And if we can't, then look at doing doing something else. As far as the ability to add additional uh amenities like split view or whatever, that that's fantastic. But we spent a
lot of money on on this system not not five years ago. And the plan originally was to move forward with that. But for some reason, we're having issues to figure out what's going on
with these. We can get we can get the audio system to work. Great. a couple of grand that we have to replace it. Thank you, Ryan. I agree. I've gone back up.
We can't have an audio conversation. I don't think we have a choice other than to see how this works because there's no way. So, we're gonna find out real fast. So, I really like the idea
of picture we can do it providing more packet information allers We built a new building. Let's let's set it up for Curry. Well, I agree that we need
so that people watching online know what we're actually saying up here can hear us and see what we're looking at as well. But there's no way we're going to have something set up for next meeting. So using these in the meime getting some bids on new systems
so that we can take a look at that. Maybe it's not feasible right away. Maybe it's something we have to budget in for 26. But at least having numbers to go with and I'd like to see the details of the system and have some
different options to explore. Okay. Well, that was just a discussion, but I think we should try to figure something out with what we got for now. But this is why I brought it up in January, you know.
Well, last one that we have for new business is uh it's about this building permit 2025 0108 5564th Avenue Southeast 2025
0113 562 4th Avenue Southeast. Um, I was reached out to by a home builder that had discuss uh discussed with me that he wants to start building his house now and um he's not getting these building
permits done. So, I think that uh you know, council Corey uh have to have a conversation about it. I know that there were two complaints, Corey. One was the square footage of brick in front of the house being less than 100
And then also that he had to uh what was it? Split the land, right? Split the land before he built the house on it. Correct. Yeah. Um I had looked at some other town houses that were over there and uh none
of them were split off before they were built. Like they're built right now and they weren't even split up around that whole entire area. So I guess my question is I I guess what I'm saying is I really want this person to just build the house already, get it done. I don't
I don't know why we're holding them up for either a cosmetic issue. So, I guess I would say I support my staff 100% and those permits should be denied. Um the plans um do not meet our design standards and the the way that the house
was proposed is that a portion of one of the units is on both properties. I don't know how the city approves a permit for a house on two parcels. Uh, as far as the ones, I'm not sure which ones um
you're referencing, Mayor Burke, but in the last year, I believe you've worked with two property owners prior to um to uh adjust their their property line. It's a very simple process. Their surveyor uh adjusts comes up with a new
survey and two new legal descriptions. City staff sends a letter, we're cool with it, and it's off to the county and they're they're good to go. Uh, as far as the brick, uh, it may seem petty, but we've also we in the past we've tried to work with builders that say, uh, oh,
we'll we'll make sure it gets incorporated. The project gets bid and built per the plan. So, now we have houses that don't comply with the uh, city code because we wanted to work with and trust
a builder that didn't follow through. But this is the guy that owns the land. and he's building a house for himself and he's contracting. If the council wants to uh make a motion to approve those permits that you certainly can, but staff does not uh recommend that. I
don't see. No, we added it on the agenda today. No, it's okay. Again, if the council wants to approve the permits, you you certainly can. Why did we why did we do the 100 square foot cosmetic uh design standards? Uh so that
was part of um so prior to that the only design standards were your house had to be a minimum of 22 feet wide and a permanent perimeter foundation. Um LGI came to town and they bought all the infill lots and most of the lots that they um that were adjacent
to these infill lots were homes built pre uh recession. So they lost 100 grand in value and over a course of 10 years finally made that up. And we were told that they were
going to mass market to um people in apartments and residents that had vacant lots next to them didn't like that. They wanted higher design standards so that their property value um would not be affected. And that's one of the requirements. We have um roof pitches.
We have numbered windows. Um, we got all kinds of things. Um, that that's just one one component of u those design standards. And I do believe that this property owner has built houses since these design standards were were
implemented. Right. But you have an owner of you have an occupancy that you could hold him against if he doesn't go with a 100 square foot. Uh, we've tried that in the past and if it's not part of the building code, you can't hold that over them.
Again, if the city council wants to approve the permits, we'll assume them tomorrow. All the other houses in that development have correct. All of them. Uh all the ones that I have processed uh since I've been
here, at least through the plan review. Yeah, we don't want to say no to anybody. I think it's human nature that you want people like you and say yes to everybody. Unfortunately, that's not this business. And I I will always encourage my staff to enforce the code and will support
them 100% when they do. I just think it's wild that you know, we have two things that are holding up a per building permit. one is a cosmetic issue and then the other one is separating the
And actually, Mr. Mayor, when I was talking to um the uh builder uh just yesterday, uh I Mr. Mayor and council members, I want to work with our builders. It's important to me. I wanted to give them excellent service and get
them on their way. And I was talking to the actual builder and I'm like, "Hey, just just to please update your plans. I mean, it doesn't take very long to make these quick updates. The problem that he was running into is that his
architect is on vacation until June 5th. So, you're you're waiting for a resubmitt. Well, so they got to redraw this to make it work out, but then you're waiting for a resubmitt for an approval. There's only, like I said, there's only
when I was talking to the builder, I'm like, uh, please reach out to your surveyor and make the lot adjustment. Uh, the two that I pro processed since I've been here, working with Lumis, they got it to me the next day. Working with Yari got it to me basically within the
next day. These are very small asks to make sure that we have a compliant um, building plans to approve. Is there additional cost to um the builder to to resubmit it on the city side? Does he have to pay for
another site review or No. Uh what we're asking for it comes directly to me. Uh there's three parts of this. There's engineering to to sign off on the grading plan. Uh there's a building inspector to inspect the actual construction plans. and then I conduct
conduct the um uh general architectural design standards and setback reviews. And what we're asking here there's no additional cost. It's just go ahead. Not in city fees. I'm sure that there'll be additional cost for
surveying and and updating the plans. Correct. you know, council. Uh, I don't have a lot of information to give you other than what was just talked about. Um, and I did intend for it to be just a discussion, but
um, man, I don't know. Like the whole entire cosmetic issue just bothers me to my core because we we did a knee-jerk reaction to LGI and then what we did was we made things so strict and now like we
get developers that come back and say you guys got too strict of design standards and u it's frustrating because I mean we end up getting money for the utility hookups, we get money for the permits, you know, and
well this is um on the list of things that's being reviewed by the planning commission. The city council has priorities please tell us. We will move them up on the list to address them sooner. Um it's just we've had a lot of things going on at the planning commission,
you know. So if there's a priority that the council has, please tell us and we'll we'll start there and start pecking away. Um, you know, again, those those design standards, um, this place was full of residents
that had invested four 350 to $450,000 in the early 2000s in in their houses and and they were concerned of property values. There was 75 lots spread throughout the community. And again, if you guys want a motion to
approve the permits, we'll assume tomorrow. I I just recommend that let it slide with the design standard for the rock. He's going to do it. I mean, and if even if he doesn't, what percentage is he under? You know, is it 5% 10%. So, right
now he's at well 36 square feet. We require 100 square feet, so 70% short. No, it's not required. Oh, I'm sorry. But if he doesn't have railing, then no, there's no I haven't seen I haven't seen the plan. There's no
railing on the site plan. So, that would have to be added. also is one thing to consider how much this person has given to the city in property taxes over his lifetime and donations and donations. Oh, there's no doubt it's been very generous. Yeah. And but where where do
we stop where do we stop the slide until the ordinance has changed? Three more permits. Let them slide because you know it's not like he's building a house for somebody else. He's building a house for himself on his land. Like I said, the council wants to approve the permits. We'll issue them tomorrow. But it sounds
like if he's just got a line that he has to move over. I mean, I don't know because I can see if he does sell, but my thing is is that he should worry about that when he does sell to that line. But it's already kind
of predetermined. Again, we'll issue the permits tomorrow if they're approved by the council tonight. I just got a feeling that you guys need more information. Well, it it comes down to two things. Um, one of the dwellings is being built
on two of the parcels. Well, that that right there I think is a problem that it's not a problem for us. It's for the property because you go to sell now you have a problem with your
property that's something and that falls back onto the city that we approve that we we have we have a lot of problems in some of the older parts already with things weird perimeters, you know. I mean, I think we
can avoid exacerbating. I mean, this is this is that piece of property owner or the property owners or whoever was to sell it down the road because you
got a structure sitting on two properties. Who knows, you know? So many people as far as aesthetics from my perspective not only
homes too we're talking about bringing in businesses lot smaller lot talking about lower cost in general there's no such thing as a low house anymore let's just be honest but in relative terms right
you know I mean there's got to be a happy where we can protect the existing property owners and their values and allow for some flexibility potentially or some some middle ground that you know a new development that we
could have some different standards. was put in place because I know but it sounds like there's a desire for a conversation about design whatever's going on this particular building
permit I don't want I will not vote on it's just a discussion yeah so I mean there is a motion I Yes, absolutely. Let's conversity. We got cannabis. Slow down. We got
cannabis. Uh and council member warmer scersian. Yes. the planning and zoning's booked until the end of the year. Uh, Vipka serves on that commission. The next meeting, we have land use uh application 2025-03 for the Lonsdale mini storage.
We have a variance coming our way for a curb. Uh, we have we still have to go back to accessory structures. Uh, we have the sign ordinance uh that was discussed that we need to move forward with for the digital billboard.
Um, we still have to go back to off- streetet parking that was discussed last year. Uh, that's still not wrapped up. That involves parking pads, which I get a lot of inquiries about. So, we're booked. And like, uh,
the here's here's what I would say. We're in budget season. Budget season means we're going to start seeing all the numbers and we're see all the tax levy, all that other stuff. So, Whatever planning and zoning can do,
whatever is on that list that can bring in new development to increase our tax base should be the priority. So if planning and voting wants any direction from my perspective, what's going to bring in business? What's going to make it easier for businesses to start
building? What's going to diversify our tax base? Any of those things, pick them, prioritize them based on that. I mean that's my advice and then standards maybe cannabis has the potential for
revenue. public hearing this. All right. So, Corey, by no means do I want you to think that I'm mad at you or that I think you're doing an awful job. I don't even think any of that. No. Thank you,
Mr. Mayor. It's just the facts and I understand that the request came in and we try to work with, you know, our builders, our B building permits as soon as possible. And then on the other side of things, these these are simple adjustments. Yeah. at the protect the city and and abide by the abide by the
city code. Yeah. I mean, I think that it just brings up a good discussion for I think where council's really been sitting is design standards. Um I I hate to see building permits held up, but you know, um again, I got the answer I was looking
for. So, I think the biggest thing is we're kind of in a rock and a hard place because earlier this year, we said we want to So we all collectively said that you said it in the work we want to
be consistent on enforcement. So I mean we got we got to be true to that but at the same time we have to recognize if something is a problem that we need to address it as a problem and say okay yeah maybe it doesn't make sense you know I said it
when we talked about yeah let's enforce consistently if we find things that we think let's change but I think we've always been talking about design standards I mean every single month we hit on it and I think
that we rely on planning and zoning to hit it and I know they were supposed to last planning and zoning meeting at least started but didn't get time but maybe we should think about elevating it to the council level too. Yeah, I agree. I mean the thing is we all ran because there were things that we thought needed
to be changed and that's what we're here to do. Okay. All right. Scott, is there anything you want to say? Okay. Sorry. Okay, are we good? Yes, Mr. Mayor and
council. All right. Department and council reports. Joe Dornbell. Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. Um, for the booster station, the pumps will be shipped out June 11th. That's all we
know. As soon as those pumps are shipped and installed, the painting of and coatings will be applied to everything. Um, it's been pretty business as usual with the parks. Um, we
did have a we have an issue that I'm working on with Excel Energy to try to remedy something at the Tren Memorial Park with with the power. Um, plan on next council meeting bringing you guys a quote for a new
pickup. The transmission went out on our van. Um, just kind of weighing out all the options. I'll present it to you guys. Um, got in touch with all the seasonals. They'll be starting on Monday. Their help will be greatly appreciated. With all this rain, the grass is really
growing. Um, and we've been helping um, get everything moved into city hall. We're excited for for the move. Um, as Joel said, with the flag poles will be installed next week. And now that our mill and overlays are done, it'll fill
in on those. Um, crosswalks and the ped lanes will be installed. All right. Thank you, Joe. There's some areas overwest that were mil. Correct.
Some were and some weren't. It's a It's just a moving moving progress. All right, Nate. Thanks, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. I just want to take this time to thank the city of Londale for letting WSB serve for the last 20 plus years. Um, it's been a
privilege and an honor working here. has been great working with Joe and Joel and everybody in the city. Um, but updates, I have the trail 2024 trail project. We're doing working with the contractor on some restoration on that. They'll actually be out tomorrow morning. Um,
just trying to get the edge of the trail, get some grass to grow on that. And the 2025 mill overlay was completed last week. The Macro milled on Wednesday, I think with the rain there was a little bit of a delay. So, they mil on Wednesday and and paved on
Friday. Got a got some additional areas um completed. Um project went great. So, they're pretty much wrapped up on that project. They'll just got to remove some inlet protection. So, y that's all I got. Thank you, Nate. Joel. Uh daytoday
stuff that's on the council agenda and city hall this week. the main focus. Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor and council members. Uh just want to give well we talked about earlier uh council member
the public hearing for uh ordinance 2025-331 to regulate cannabis businesses will be held at the June 16 June 16 2025 planning commission meeting. Uh going on record here, that meeting will be at the new city
hall. Um working on code violations and uh working on a land use application 202504 for the lawn sale mini storage going into a phase 2 expansion of their storage units. Right. Thank you, Corey.
Brian, thank you from the library board. library. There's going to be a special library board meeting on Wednesday. Basically, it's going to be talking short. Big thing also next week uh
Friday is the kickoff of summer reading program keynote for everyone. There is a adult participation to the summer reading program this year. So, it's not just for the kids anymore.
Adults, we're getting donations coming in. And I talked to Margaret about this. I got some donations for prize baskets. So, if you like to read, if you don't like to read, if you know how to read, come on down, join the summer reading
program next Friday, June 6th, down at JC Park. starts at noon. There's food. It's super fun. Um, so yeah, that's my big pitch. Okay, thank you. I have nothing as far
as um departments go because we haven't met yet until June. And then I just want to say congratulations to all the graduates because it's graduation season and we have a lot of good kids out there. So
good job. Congrats. Thank you, Jamie. Planning and zoning at the public hearing for quick trip. We made a meeting with no swearing though. Wow. That's always a plus. And we actually took out the gavl just in
case. Um we also discussed the billboards, the cannabis ordinance. We finally got them to the point where we can bring it to public hearing next this month. Um they seem in favor of just making the changes for the billboard. So that
should be fairly simple straight and then we should hopefully get the accessory structure basically taking away that um garage had to match the house it wasn't attached. All right. Thank you Jamie Scott. Um
since our last uh meeting u uh met with some updates on the uh small city's development housing rehabilitation grant. Uh did the monthly social media marketing update um and uh
also the street fair Chamber Street Fair was held a couple days before that. Uh appreciate uh Brian uh and uh number of people from the EDA were in attendance and as well as Joel and Cy were there.
It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. It was a very well attended event. Um probably one of the best ones ever. So see representation there. And that is all I have. Thank you, Scott. Uh had a great time
with the Legion on Memorial Day. uh thank you for the services that you had put on and uh stopped into the new city hall. I believe it was Tuesday and saw all the city staff there working pretty hard. Um thank you to everybody that
reached out to Katie and I about our newborn and they're both healthy and we're thrilled. So, uh, our upcoming meetings are June 12th, 7 p.m., June 17th at 7 p.m., and
June 26 at 700 p.m. Um, that's all I got. So, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion by Palava, second by Miller. Any further discussion? All in favor?