April 30th 2025 Loudoun, County School Board, attendance Zone, public hearing and work session. Della South Secondary, School, attendance zone, change process. I want to let everyone know that tonight. We have Mr. Kevin Lewis as Dr. Spence's designee for this public hearing and work session. Welcome Mr. Lewis to the days. Um we will start with item 2 staff briefing uh from the Department of sport Services. Attendance Zone briefing
presentation presented by Miss Beverly, Tate director planning and GIS Services, Miss Tate. Thank you, chair Mansfield. Thank you for those here tonight, including the planning and GIS crew in the back. Um, if you would indulge me for a moment, I would just like to, um, go through the meeting folder. A lot of this is repeat documents that you got last week, but we are providing them tonight on the chance, someone speaks to something that you want to quickly locate. So we providing
them again. You have a copy of the agenda, as well as the speaker list for the public hearing, that's later. You have a copy of tonight's presentation. And all of this is also posted on our, um, 10 Zone web page as well. Then you have a copy of the staff plan that was presented last th Tuesday night, I'm sorry, my days are blur, um, as well as the staff plan rationale that's unfolded within that, there's a copy of the conditions without change. So these are the current, um, attendance
zones, as well as the projections for the next 6 years. Um, as published in the school boards adopted FY 26 CIP. Then we have a map of the planning zones and included within that fold. Are the planning zone projections for middle and high school by those? There is a uh tips and trick packet for redistrict, the Virginia Tech platform that allows community members or even you as board members to create plans kind of what if scenarios. and then we again have provided the, um,
Attendance zone maps for freedom. And J Michael lens for John champe, Mercer and light Ridge and Willard. Um, to pick the attendance zones, it also depicts the walk zones for the schools as applicable it identifies, any residential development, that's active, or proposed that we've been tracking. Again, that is also by planning zone. Then the new items that are included in the folder we've had um at least 1, question. Someone was asking about the
resident students by planning zone. Current 24/25 students. So we provided that this is our geocoded so their address matched, our lcps students where they live in each planning zone, and we provided that for this year, for grade, 6, through 12, The next packet in there which is the portrait 1 which is also posted online. Um we call it the move tracker. So this provides what schools serve what planning zones going back
to 2014205 year to present year and so that should cover the full spread of a students. School year, if they started in kindergarten in 2014 and they would be a senior this year if my math is correct. But we provided that the first 2 pages are for the high schools. The next 2 pages are for middle school and then the Back 2 pages are for elementary school at the very top. We've also noted the year, new schools have opened so that gives you an idea of what is triggered, the boundary and
then the final item in your folder is just an excerpt. It's what's supposed to right now, it's the Q&A that we received as we received questions in writing from your constituents, um, and members of the public who are interested in our boundary process, we take those questions and we provide written answers to them and we post those so that everybody that everybody gets the same answer if the conversation at the bus stop, it's like well I don't think that's what they meant. Um we encourage people to submit questions to us but we also provide this as a reference so that they can go
back and say, oh well that question was asked and the answer is there, so we've just provided you. The um, we've had 12 questions submitted to us since we started last Tuesday, and we're providing you that snapshot but this document is a living document. And as we receive additional questions, we'll update it sometimes, we're updating it twice a day. Sometimes we're updating it every other day. Just depends on when we get questions. You also have been, um, Emails that have been coming in to us, we're forwarding to
you all as well so that you can read those comments. And um, I'm sure some of our speakers tonight will speak to that. So thank you for indulging me with that. Um tonight I wanted to before we started the public hearing and the work session. I wanted to quickly review some of the information that we had uh shared with you last Tuesday, evening, evening, specific to this ongoing attendance Zone process and specifically, the current attendance zones for Freedom High School. J Michael lindsford. Um, John champe, High School, Mercer Middle, Light Ridge, High School and Willard
Middle School. Um, this is intended to be a smaller initial change process. We recognize that there will be a larger attendance Zone process tied to the opening of hs4. When that opens in the fall of 2028, we anticipate that process to be in the spring of 27. This is the meeting calendar that you all adopted earlier this year. It's May, yes, I'm sorry. I'm really having a brain fog with when it is. Uh, so we're here tonight on April 30th.
Um, we have another public hearing and work session. Next Monday night, then on May 20th would be an information item. So any plans that the board is actively considering would be discussed at that May 20 meeting kind of Bearing down. Um, we have had attendance Zone processes, where, um, constituents have worked with their representing board, member or members and board members have submitted plans for staff to map. Those could be plans that come from the redistrict or could just be conversations to say what
if we did not move? Kirpatrick Farms what if we did something else? And so working with those, we will happily map, any plans or kind of request that you all have and we would post those online. We would also discuss them potentially at next, Monday's meeting if you had some between now and then but the May 20th is when it's narrowed down. So if there are any other plans that you're interested in seeing be above and beyond the staff plan, that would be the point at which we would. Um, Need those in and the deadline actually for that would be
Friday. May 9th. Um but the 20th would be information item and then then once it's narrowed down, if there are other plans, we would have another final hearing on June 2 and then the board is anticipate take action on any of any changes at the June 10th meeting. And again, I would repeat the, any attendance zones, adopted by the board would not take effect until fall. 26 with the 2627 school year, And I will do a plug the sign up Advanced, Sign up for Monday, night's hearing will begin at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow.
Um, this process is Guided by policy and regulation, 6530 which you just recently reviewed. And um, Improved and enhanced. Um, there's various factors that are considered in adopting an attendance Zone facilities, proximity Community, accessibility stability, and cluster alignment. Um, it's recognized that sometimes these factors conflict with each other. Um, a given Factor may be more important to 1 individual than another but um, we
acknowledge that when changing attendance in the school board will consider um but not be limited to these factors whenever possible. These again, I'm just repeating this slide from last Tuesday night. This is again a smaller change process and advance of the opening of hs1. 14. We are proposing that the current feeders that are currently aligned would maintain. So Lunsford would continue to feed to Freedom, Mercer to chav Willard to light, Ridge, High School. Any change recommended at a middle school or High School level
would also apply to that Sister school. Um, the adopted changes would take effect in the fall of 26 and 8160 policy. 8160 outlines um exceptions to school assignment due to attendance zone. Change it identifies. That if an attendance zones change for a student, who is arising eighth grader, the year, the boundary takes effect he or she. Um, potentially would have the option to remain at and graduate from their middle school, likewise Rising Juniors and
certainly Rising seniors would not be asked to change, but this is a um, Step that will follow once. Boundaries are adopted will be surveying any affected families in the fall so that we can make those changes at the board's discretion before the boundary takes effect. Um, Elementary School, attendance zones, also will not be changed with this process. This again is the conditions without change. So if no attendance zone changes were made in this process, these are the projected enrollments and the uh, capacity
utilization at the given schools. What is the planning zone? And I really briefly highlighted on this last Tuesday night, but I wanted to take an opportunity to kind of give a little bit more of a um explanation. planning zones are Geographic areas that are designed within planning, and GIS services to, um, track and convey data in data in a more compact manner rather than an entire subdivision like South Riding, or even a um, Even a whole school attendance Zone.
Like a variety of um for a variety of purposes they represent a subset of a School's attendance Zone, whether it's elementary middle or high. And so I've kind of given a snip click here of ds10 which is actually comprised of the entire leaner run. Community subdivision, but you can see here that ds10 is oh, and I left that off. Oh no, it's here. Ds10 the bottom row, I'm sorry. Hooter Elementary. So the elementary school that serves US. 10 is Henrietta Lacks. K 2. Hover grades 3
5. It is served by Willard Middle School and is served by light Ridge, High School, this present year, right now there are 71 resident, high school students that live in that planning zone as of September and then we've provided projections. High School projections for that same planning zone. But planning zones are a tool for us to track and to, um, monitor enrollment planning zones will split. So, as you also see here, I have DS, DS, stands for delis South 06.5, 06.6, 06706 Point, N, at 1
point, we had just 1 ds6 but as developments came in, like all the Estates came in ds07 so we further subdivided it. Um, so that is how we're tracking information and these are um, What we're using to create our plan and what the public or you would be using with the Virginia Tech product to do. It planning zones will often file followed Geographic markers whether that's a creek or a stream or a major road and in
this instance um dividing DS 6.7 and 6.6 is Route. 50 like Little River Turnpike um, Did planning zones, remain constant? You're going to given year, but each summer as we look and we're tracking development, we will, um, potentially divide a planning zone. When we know that there are so many students living in a planning zone and it becomes untenable to use it as a planning product. So if we had 500 students living in ds10, we would look to see if we could further design that
This again is the staff plan. Um it is not a comprehensive long-range plan but it's our approach was to recommend um planning zone and communities beginning in the fall that would not at least from our perspective, we would not Endeavor to recommend them changing. Again, when we go into the hose 14, process on the map, that's provided. We've outlined those planning zones in red. So again, this 1 Movie, we were recommending moving 3 planning zones from John champe and Mercer High School DSO,
9.1 9.3, 138 and 16.1. Um all of the first 3 9. 1 9 3. Um, again, the Cardinal Ridge would be 100% feed. Liberty would still be a split feed where some of Liberty's planning zones, advance to freedom and J Michael lunch for and others. Go to Mercer in John champe High School. It would be about a 4060 split right now. then we have um 3 planning zones that we're recommending change from Willard Middle School and light Ridge, High
School to Mercer Middle School. In John champe, High School. Um, 12.6 13.3 and 13.12, um, 13.3 and 13.12, a portion of kirpatrick farms. Recognizing, um, kirpatrick Farms is also south of Braddock in 12.2, um, and then it also includes Brad at corner, which is in 12.6. Um, this these are all Pine Brook schools and Pine Brook would um continue to be a split Fleet as it is right now but it
would be um a more equal distribution between the schools plus. It would also move some students who are closer to Mercer to that school. Again, as I shared, we have posted everything. We provide to you board members, we're providing to the public, it's posted on our attendance Zone, web page, this is the address, um, our frequently asked questions. We've got our questions that are coming from community members. So we're posting that. And this is a live site that's updated often. Uh, redistrict. I wanted just to briefly touch on this.
This is a tool that's out there for the public. We actually have, um, 1 parent who has submitted 3 plans through redistrict for your consideration. Um, and so you can go out and look, we have about when I looked yesterday we had 5 or 6 plans. Um but people are continuing to use it kind of do what ifs. Um, some of them do work, some of them don't, um some of the plans include things that we as planning staff looked at before we brought forth the plan that we did. Um but this is a tool out there and we encourage folks to utilize
that This again, is our contact information, our web page, any questions we receive in writing, we will answer post on the web. Any comments? We receive. We forward to you all as well. Um, so we encourage folks to do that and oh, I guess I do duplicated. This slide was 1 of those. Um, and then this would be, my last is just as you start the public hearing, if the folks could identify at least their street or their planning zone, that at least helps us and perhaps would help you just kind of track from where they're coming
from. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Tate. So, um, speakers are asked to begin comments for this comment for this. If that public comment there by stating the name street name or planning zone. Designation. Yes. So if I, and the grade level of your children. Yes, just to get an idea that I mean it's it's helpful to us, they don't have to tell us their names, but I would say, I meditate and I live in planning zone ds10. Um and I have 3 children 2 at Willard 1 at light Ridge. That's just as
example. And I don't live in DS2. But okay, I'll try and remember. I'll try and remember. That's put in my script for public comment. Well they they'll be up here if they wish to reference it. Okay. Um, I will say that I tried that uh, V, the Virginia Tech and Boy, was I not good at it? Um, I thought what was like, really like what I would think is, you know, that's my district, right? And I live right around there. What looked that would be for me, would look like, it would make sense,
It would be like, 150 high schoolers and then 40 middle schoolers and I was like, well, I just put lens for it up to 200%. So like, it's, it's, it's something to to play around with a little bit more, but What a great tool. And then all of these things that you just gave us are on the website but they're not on board Docs. They should be under the work session. the only thing that we posted Under The Briefing was the
presentation, but the, um, okay, so everything that you said, okay, I see and I see now simply because we had most of them to you um last week. But as you say that, you are correct because the tracking chart and the kids by count are not. So I will, we'll update that thank you and then the questions are on there too. The questions are on the website because they're changing, we just gave you a snapshot in your folder so that you could see the questions that were getting. Okay. So for
maybe next time, can we have them? You know, like we do for Budget. They'll put them on there? Yes, I think we can do that. Yes, yeah. um, board members, do you have any questions before we continue on Miss Tate. Did I interrupt you? Are you You're good. I'm finished. Thank you so very much. all right, and with that we will start our um Public hearing. Item 3.01 procedures for public comment. Thank you for engaging with the school board through the
public comment process. The school board, welcomes comments from Loudoun. County residents and believes the strong Community engagement, and outreach are important components of a successful school system. Please note. That the speakers of this school board, public hearing shall limit their comments to the Dulles South Secondary School. School attendance Zone, public hearing, and as I was just, informed speakers are asked to begin comments by stating your name street name or planning zone designation and the grade level of your children. But I understand that it's
still a choice. Um speakers must limit comments to the time. Allotted based on the number of speakers and the agenda this evening all speakers have been allotted 2 minutes. Each for public comment speakers who missed their time slot will not be called at a later time. all audience members shall maintain civil, decorum and respect for the functioning in the Dignity of the school board at all times and abide by the public comment procedures set forth in school board policy, 2520 entitled participation by the public and on the lcps, citizen
participation website. Those resources are also provide information on the distribution of materials to school board members. Given that under no circumstances, May a speaker approach. The deis In accordance with school board policy 2520 speakers should refrain from vulgarity obscenities defamation profanity or profanity or other like breaches of Civility decorum and Speakers Also, may not Target criticize or attack individual students Andor individual employees during public comment or engage in conduct that otherwise disrupts
or delays. The meeting inappropriately loud conversations are outbursts from those in attendance will not be tolerated and security staff will be asked to restore order per policy School Board policy 24. 520 when reasonable the chair will warn a speaker of the breaches of decorum or these rules, prior to the chair terminating speaking privileges or taking other action to preserve this ability, decorum and orderly conduct of the meeting, which could include. But is not limited to the chair, directing staff to remove the attendee from the remainder of the meeting Andor, the public comment being
concluded for the evening. And I'm assuming that the that this is still available through lcps TV on Comcast channel, 18 and Verizon FiOS channel 43. And the live stream were live streaming. I think of the meeting may be viewed on the website and we look forward to hearing your comments. Um, we have 1 virtual comment. And then we will move from virtual to in person. So our first virtual speaker is Kate Meyers
Of DS 12.6 and um, I have a child at Pine Brook, 1 at Willard and 1, at lightridge. Um, so, again, I already I'm a member of the product Corner Community. Thank you. Um, we understand that there is a need to address the amount of children in our middle schools. However, as a member of the small community with limited impact, 34 students, currently at Willard and 55 at light Ridge, I respectfully ask that. We be removed from the current rezoning, and the staff plan, the children and brought a corner. We're already rezoned in the fall of 2018 and the fall of 2020 and I'm here advocating for them include
3 of my own to First support removal. Secondly, support table the discussion on rezoning for when the new High School 14 is added and the 144 dwelling. Stone, Ridge expansion, begins or third support a plan that takes our previous rezon into consideration Zone, DS, 12.6 straddles, both sides of bratic Road. Currently all zones that sit on the south side of Braddock and North attend, the Willard light Ridge cluster her policy. It is in the interest of the school board to keep continuous Neighbors in the same school zone. That's why I'm recommending
removal of DS 12.6 when the plan table are looking at user plan. 40 in the redistricting tool, which resins 4 versus 7 zones and factors in proximity, stability, and Community for those communities. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Um and then we will continue on with uh Barbara Davis and then Karen Haden. Good evening. Thank you for uh thank you for having us this evening. Um, I am here both as a mom. My I live in
Kirkpatrick Farms on curiosity Square. I have 1 who has gone through. He's now lieutenant in the Army and I have a rising sixth grader for Willard Willard. Um so I'm here both as a mom as well to represent my community because I'm the president of the Kirkpatrick Farms Community Association. Uh, I will tell you Kirkpatrick Farms is unusual in the fact that it's the only community that is bisected by Braddock Road. So, this puts us in a situation where we are, electorate,
is divided where your constituent, where Dr. Rasheed's constituents um, with 1200 homes, it puts us in a, I think that it basically puts a Target on our back because our electorate is divided and every time something's going on with either the Board of Supervisors or lcps, when it comes to rezoning, we seem to be the easy solution to divide the community. And I am call. I'm I'm just here to Simply ask please do
not divide our community in half. It's going to happen at the worst possible time. A little visual for you. So this is the Pine Brook Elementary. Fifth grade class. If our community is divided, 1 more time, this is what's going to happen. Our community is going to be divided, we work really hard to keep our community together. We engage with Pine Brook, we we engage with it. We we engage with the schools to Foster that sense of community and obviously it is 1 of your goals
too. So that's my simple request. My simple request is to keep us together as a community. They're all Great Schools. I'm agnostic. Which school my kid ends up going to. I just would like the community to stay together. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Um, Karen Haden. Followed by Elizabeth Whitley. Hi, thank you for having us. My name is Karen Haden. I've been a resident of DS 13.3 in Kirkpatrick Farms or KPS for 18 years. Uh, longer than many
surrounding communities have existed. I have a light Ridge graduate, a current senior, and freshman there and a fourth grader is still at Pine Brook. Kpf is a tight-knit community deeply rooted in the Pine Brook Willard in light. Rich cluster, we are active leaders in PTA and school activities, 2 light Ridge, head coaches even live on my street. your staff plan separates, my fourth grader from her cousin and best friend, who lived just 1 minute away in Kirkpatrick Farms, She wants to go to light Ridge with her cousin where she already knows teachers coaches. And the concession stand
volunteers from countless nights cheering on her siblings there. 4 years ago, I stood before you when DS 13.3 was proposed to be split off, and you agreed saying that it was the right call. At the time Mr. Moore's assured us, that we would be left alone yet. Here we are again. Targeted for disruption. It's time to look at newer communities now. If the argument is that Pinebrook Elementary is already a fractured feeder school, that's misleading. Only a very small substance subset of adjacent Stone Ridge, Homes, a separate Community, whose students should whose students
attend our Cola Elementary splits off after Pine Brook. The vast majority of Pine Brook students, particularly those from Kirkpatrick, family from Kirkpatrick. Farms are moving together through Willard and lightridge reasoning is now breaks your own priorities community. That would be splitting a historic neighborhood. accessibility while on paper our area is considered close to Mercer in reality, it is over a mile away with no crossing guard at the key intersection, when my older children attended Mercer, we in almost every family on my
street drove daily. Because safe walking was not really an option and stability your uprooting families. Already moved Once In The Last 5 Years. Thank you for listening. Thank you. um, Uh, the next 1 is Elizabeth Whitley followed by Abby Conley. Hi, I'm Elizabeth Whitley, a resident of Kirkpatrick Farms. I have 4 children and my family is deeply involved in our schools. Our community is in strong opposition to the proposed School resoning in fact, in less than 10 hours, we received over 300 signatures from Neighbors, who oppose the
rezoning neighbor, um, we have been resand multiple times in recent years and this new proposal would not only shift our students again, but divide our community along Braddock Road splitting, families and friends between 2 different School clusters. K. Patrick Farms is a small close-knit community that has always stepped up when needed including housing hovater kindergarteners during school construction. But this came at a cost overcrowded classrooms and stretched resources. Many hovatter, parents were upset, their children would attend our school, but they ended their child's kindergarten year, wanting their children to finish,
Elementary School at Pine Brook. This is truly a testament to the type of community that we've built. Now, we're being asked to shoulder. Another burden, that isn't our fault and 1 that disrupts stability and fractures our community. Our children are already experiencing anxiety around resoning, poor planning between lcps, and the county shouldn't create problems. That citizens are sacrificed to solve. Lcps says its goals are stability, cluster alignment, and keeping communities together. And this proposal achieves, none of that for us, We respectfully demand that. You keep kpatrick Farms intact
within the Pinebrook Willard and lightridge cluster, our children deserve consistency in our community deserves to stay whole. Thank you. Thank you. Abby Conley followed by Scott Conley. Hi, uh, my name is Abby, Conley. My kids will be rising, seventh and ninth graders at Mercer comes Spring, Middle School, and, uh, champ when This takes effect in 2026 6 years ago, our Zone DS 13.8 was resand to the champ cluster from the 2, sorry due to
overcrowding in the freedom cluster. Now, it is proposed that we will be moved again in the very next attendance. Rezoning, To relieve overcrowding in the light, Rich cluster, this directly contradicts the directive of the newly revised policy 6530 that you guys just approved last week, that quote an attendance rezone plan must Endeavor to minimize multiple attendant zone changes for a given residence. Whenever possible the staff's plan does not do this. The families in this Zone suffered significant disruption of their educational continuity in 2019 and they should not be asked to bear that disruption for a second straight
time. DS. 13.8 is a small Zone. They are projected to be only 22 middle schoolers and 20 high schoolers. When the plan takes effect in 2026. The removal of those 42 students from the rezone plan would have a negligible impact on overall capacity issues in contrast moving those students would be very disruptive to their education of each and every 1 of them, DS 13.8, students and families played their part in helping address capacity issues, and Della South in 2019. They should not be asked to do. So again, thank you for your consideration. Thank you.
Uh, Scott Conley followed by Liz cornetta. Hello. My name is Scott Conley, and I'm the father of 2 lcps. Students, also, living in the DS 13.8 District. Um, both my kids will be entering seventh and ninth grade in 2026. Uh, the staff plan fails to give effect to the emphasis in the revised policy. 6530 that the impact on students families and neighborhoods should be given weight. Changing the DS 13.8 students, in middle and high school
would have a significant impact on both students and Families. Our son has built his identity At Mercer. Playing on the basketball, team performing in the band and forming deep friendships, and dreams of playing for the playing football for champ, 1 day. This proposal would force him to start over at a new high school, just as he answers, High School. Our daughter would face 2 middle schools in 3 years disrupting her academic and social growth. These 2 examples show that this plan isn't student centered its destabilizing At least 10 families in our neighborhood. Share this
concern. Please do the right thing for for DS. 13.8 families, don't rezone, thank you for consideration. Thank you. And Liz cornetta followed by Jenny Webb. Good evening. Thank you so much. For allowing us to speak, I don't envy your tasks. Um, my name is Liz cornetta. I'm an original owner of a home in Das 12.6. We've been there for 16 years and my son is an eighth grader at Willard. This is a summary of the plan that I submitted for your consideration. It's number
40, and the redistrict tool In 2020. Several zones changed policy, 6530, advises minimizing repeat changes. Therefore, the zones that changed in 2020 should not change again, except for DS 7.5, as it is directly adjacent to John champe High. This keeps long established communities of DS 12.6, 13.3 and 13.12, together with the rest of kirpatrick farms at
Willard and lightridge, which is consistent with the rationale that was used for the for their move in 2020. Students in future homes. Near Mercer will be part of the Stone Ridge Community and should naturally attend, Mercer and champ. While the existing communities in that zone remain at Willard and light Ridge in summary, please consider only these immediate changes 7.5 to Mercer and champ due to adjacency 9.1 9.3 and 16.1 to Lunsford and freedom. As they are
nearby and will make Cardinal Ridge a pure feed. Plan number 40. Fewer changes relief that's needed. Thank you so much. Thank you. Um, Jenny Webb, followed by Christine Kerr. Hi. My name is Jenny Webb. I'm part of 13.3. I live on Opportunity. Drive my son. Andrew is a junior at lightridge, and my daughter Madison will be a freshman next year. I'm here today to express my concern. Regarding the proposed, rezoning plan that could affect a very small
portion of Kirkpatrick, Farms, where my family has resided since 2005 when we built our home, With a junior at lightridge and another child entering her freshman year. We are worried about the possibility of being re-zoned to a different high school at a very impressionable age. I recall that dividing our neighborhood was previously. Deemed, I'm the Oddball here. I actually live in DS. 10 lenah, run. So I'm here kind of being proactive. Um, I've lived there for the past 13 years. Um, I'd like to ask that any plan going forward, keeps ds10
zone for Willard and lightbridge. Um, my youngest daughter, um, is the class of 29, which means, if our neighborhood were to be moved, she would start her freshman year at lightbridge and then we moved A large portion of the class of 29 that is going to light. Ridge has already attended, 3 different, elementary schools. Um, including my daughter, she went to Buffalo Trail in kindergarten first, go and post and second, third and fourth with the little thing called coid sprinkled in there.
And HOV for Fifth. And while all 3 schools were lovely, it was a very disjointed Elementary School experience very disjointed. Um, I asked that if you do decide to do some, uh, a redraw for the 2627 school year, that you can consider letting the class of 29 who will be sophomores at the time, choose whether to remain at their high school or move to their new school. I think it's just important to let students finish High School where they start high school. Thank you.
Thank you. Um, Dominic Paris, followed by Pamela manual. Good evening. My name is Dominic Paris. I'm a 15 year resident of Kirkpatrick Farms, a nearly lifelong resident of Loudoun County and a graduate of Loudoun County, Public Schools. A member of our HOA board, a PTA member, and for many years, chair of our open space committee where I have witnessed firsthand the friendships and support systems that Define our neighborhood. I speak to tonight. Not on.
And dismantle a close-knit community. Ours is a modest neighborhood with a higher proportion of town, homes and Condominiums compared to surrounding areas. In communities like ours, where families often shoulder. A heavier economic burden. These personal relationships are not just important, They are essential to resilience belonging and community. My older child still maintains friendships today that would have never been possible had the the community been divided the way it is now being proposed.
These ties matter for our children for our families and for the long term strength of Latin County itself. As you weigh your decision. I urge you to recognize that the Beth best path forward is 1 that keeps communities together intact, stable and strong. please keep Kirkpatrick Farms whole Thank you. Thank you. Um, and our last 1, please hold your pause. Um, Pamela manual. Pamela manual. I'm um. Big farms.
Terrace. And my oldest graduated from champ because of a previous rezoning, um, my youngest is now at light Ridge. Um, so we've been through Pinebrook, Mercer champ and now light Ridge. um, as a longtime resident and active participant in Kurt, Patrick Farms Community, I'm currently a board member of our amazing neighborhood. 1 thing that you have to understand in the middle of this, Northern Virginia area. We have a community that is
together. Many individuals have lived in our neighborhood since it was built in this area. That is rare. This is a tight-knit neighborhood. This includes Pinebrook Willard and now light Ridge. This will be the fourth time that our small community has been faced with this and we are tired of being in this position. So, tired, that 300 individuals, signed a petition in 9 hours Resolute, um, resolutions or ideas, are usually what people
look at. So, here it is. Leave our small community intact with Pine Brook and sister schools Willard and light Ridge. Take a look at zoning. That doesn't make sense. If you look at the map Eastgate in South writing, goes to Champ and light Ridge, when they should be at Freedom. take willowsford since it's the largest community that is being built and it's divided by Braddock and Route 50 and it's so large that taking it as a group, won't have the
same impact as taking our small neighborhood and splitting us apart, they're separated by the greens, The Gables and so forth. So they will not feel the same thing. If the school gets crowded, let the parents decide. If they prefer a special permission to go to another school, we're okay with the tent. Yes. Ma'am. Ma'am. Please. Please yield the mic. I'm sorry. It's 2 minutes. Thank you. Um, okay.
Thank you all for coming out today and for, providing your public comment. Um, board members. Would you like to take a reassess before we go? Before we continue on. No. Okay. All right, we will then move on to our work session. Um work session will be presented by Miss Beverly, Tate director planning and GIS services. Miss Tate, I am here to answer any questions you have. Um, the information I shared was in The Briefing but
if you have questions or Requests for additional information. We're happy to take that here and bring it back on Monday night. Board members any questions? Yes, Dr. Rashid Thank you, Miss Tate. Um, and everybody that came out um uh, I just had a question in regards to the planning of this. Um, it turns into Heartland Revisited as we did last year, I feel like it's a repeat episode. Um, my question is, um, what is the role of when these communities are being
developed? And considering how a lot of the districts out west, uh Dulles. Um, little river in particular uh are very vast and very large and I know that we're we're always always developing. For example, hs1 14 is being built, my question is what role uh, does lcps have in, um, I guess having a voice in where communities could go when, uh, when when communities are being built in regards to schools. And if lcps, doesn't really have that initial role who does and
so that we can kind of, I guess get more involved. So that we could prevent rezoning in the Future. Thank you. No question. Um, Latin County Public Schools is a referral Agency for any residential rezoning that comes before the Board of Supervisors, at the county level or, um, any of the Incorporated towns perville Hampton. Um, so we do provide comments, saying that, if this development is approved with
this, Unit mix that we would anticipate X number of students. Um, the times where um, we were able to request land for a school um similar to how we got the land from Mercer or for Freedom or for Hutcherson Farm or Little River. Those were profs that the developer offset. The impact on the county by profiting land for lcps to build schools,
Um, since that time, and I should say Pine Brook was 1 of those as well. Since that time, um, in recent past, we've had a lot of by right developments that come through and they're not a resoning and so they're allowed to develop as is. So all of the Willows for developments All 4 of those, um, which each are about 600 units each, those were by, right? And so there was no, um, Profer opportunity with that because it wasn't a resoning.
so, In red, alax hover. Light Ridge. Um, hs4. Goan post John champe. We're all sites that Lan County, public schools had to work with the county of Laden to purchase in order to provide seats for students. So, it's a difficult task for everyone, to locate a school.
where everybody is walkable Little River. Elementary is a great example, most of that School's, attendance Zone, walks to school, because it's so compact within South Riding. so we do provide but it it is, um, It's an unfortunate, um, component of growth. It's wonderful that we have great support within the county to build schools for all of our students. But unfortunately with growth comes new schools which then triggers a tenant's own changes and they're never ideal. And it's not
something that staff, relishes doing we, you know, we try to minimize it. But there are instances where we can't and unfortunately, um, I can only think of a handful of times and perhaps that was when we opened HOV and everyone at Willis was going to that school. Um there's always And unfortunate unhappy side to every attendance zone. Change. It's just it's, um, I'm not sure, I answered your question completely but I
don't think it helps either when Willers for decided that they didn't want to have a school in their area. So then everybody has to go be um, in the professors that were There. They have to be fed there. um, I mean, living in South Riding. We've had a lot, me and my kids were zoned for when we moved there to, um, Little River. And then moved to Hutchinson farm and then Liberty, and then their last year
was Cardinal Ridge. So it, it can be really crazy. Um, And in our area. I mean gosh we built so many elementary schools at 1 time so fast. And then we didn't have Middle School, we got Mercer, then we got lens and now we have You know, others. So I get it. Um, Uh, Miss chernoff, did you have a question? I did. Thank you. Chair Mansfield, and thank you to all of you for coming out tonight. It we get a lot of maps and numbers and things, but it, it helps to humanize it. And kind of hear I
wanted to clarify Is Kirkpatrick Farms DS 13.3 NDS, 13.8. Is that the split that we're talking about? Can you help clarify, which 2 are being split for Patrick Farms is DS And DS 13.3 and includes part of DS 13.12. And I'm sure I would be corrected if I was if I missed a planning soon. Thank you. I probably miss wrote it down when there were all the numbers flying, I appreciate that. Um and then I had a question about 1 of the things that the
the 1 of the speakers mentioned was and I apologize. I have not had time to play in the tool yet but I will get there. Um when they mentioned number 40 in the redistricting tool. Can you? Help me know where I'll see that. Will that be clear? I'm not so good with technology, okay, it will be clear. Okay, so when you log in, you'll have to create, um, you'll have to create a um, user for you. You'll have to get create an account. I'm trying to think of the words. And so
once you do that, then you can not only go in and create plans but you can also see there'll be a list of plans. And so um it's an interactive and so it's an opportunity to it. opportunity to it. Kind of crowd-sources in the fact that there may be people who looked at plan 40 and they then and said, this is really great for my neighborhood or okay. This doesn't really affect us but I can see where it works. And so there's an opportunity for people to view it and provide feedback as well that you and others can read. And
would those be plans that were generated by the community that were added into the tool or would that That be something. Our our proposed plans are also loaded into that as well. Um, maybe I should play with it first before I asked. So you said is saying yes the staff plan is okay is in there. Um but the plans that are in there are all Community Driven unless 1 of you have done so and you can be anonymous and you are Anonymous in these. And so it's not saying that oh
Bev tape made this plan. Um but at the same time if there's a plan that you as individual board members like and wish to kind of embrace and bring forward for further discussion here, then you can reach out and say I'd like you to map plan 40 so that we can have more discussion on that. That brings me now would just because we're all new to this process. Um, I, my understanding is there has to be some rationale too. With the new plan. Could you go through that a little bit?
so um, while rationale is wonderful at this juncture, um, I'll Use prior boundary processes. I mean we've had times where we've had 50 plans that board members have brought forth. I'll use Mr. Morris as the example because we love him. Yes, so Mr. Morris, he would, you know, he loves the numbers, he didn't use the tool as much. He liked the Excel spreadsheet because he liked to manipulate the data, but he would come back and he would look at our staff plan, he would hear from constituents. So have you heard from the
folks who said, I believe is 13.3, who said we weren't moved before we lobbied him. Um, and so he would create a plan and he would ask us to map it and he would present it at 1 of the work sessions and he would say, okay I looked at this and maybe it needs to be tweaked a little bit more or he would say I maybe I see the point they're making and I'm kind of proposing this 1. Um, but then maybe that night, he went home and he worked numbers a little bit more, and he came with the plan, he liked better. And so then that became
another Morris Plan 2 that we would put up and he would at the next work session kind of go through that we do not, by policy rationale. Or justification is not required for all of the plans that we look at during work session. It's only required for once the board is narrowing, its focus going into the information item where we could have 10 plans or we could have 2 plans and any plan that moves forward Forward for Action in your June meeting and for that final
public hearing are what need to have the justification. And it's just um you can mirror it. Um after what our template is for, what we provide with the staff rationale but it should speak to the components of the policy to say this addresses. The feeder that you know, the plan that Plan 58. If there is such a plan out there at the Virginia Tech right now plan, 58 addresses, the feeder. It, it keeps all of kpatrick farms together. It, um, keeps the pure feed
for Cardinal Ridge, or it creates a pure feed for Guillain post, which are staff. Plans is not but it, it, it speaks to components of that or it acknowledges that this community has moved multiple times. And so the plan 50 or whatever plan number it is, that plan addresses that where the staff plan perhaps doesn't but as I kind of alluded to the Factors that are considered in a policy are very Broad and
some mean more to others than and and and it's understandable. I mean, I could, you know, say that I want my, I want that continuity or I want my community. South Riding community is huge, we know that they can't all go to 1 elementary school, but it's those factors and that's what the justification and rationale would speak to You you also said there was a date that you wanted people to get in. Yes. So that we could parse through all of this properly. Yes. So in order to make the deadline with the
information and preparing board docs, it would be by next Friday, next Friday. Yes, ma'am, yes. We're available if you need. um, that seems kind of quick. And can you go can you tell us why it needs to be this timeline? Um, it doesn't, I mean we adopted the calendar. Um, I would think for everyone's, Feelings about this that they would like resolution. So we
were trying to have action by the end of this school year because we know the board is on break in July. Um, but this, if we have an attendance Zone adopted, Going into the fall then we can then begin the next step with the 80 policy 8160. We're in the fall, we're going to start surveying the rising Juniors that are resand. We're going to start serving the families that have Rising eighth graders to see if they wish for their student to remain at
their current school for that continuity. So we will bring those survey results back to you in the fall. So that then Once December January starts and everybody starts planting for the 2620 school year. We know where everyone's going because Seniors. Likely aren't going to want to change. There may be a senior that does for whatever reason and so they would be allowed to because they're going to an existing school where there will be a senior class. But um,
We just thought that everybody would like to have resolution by the end of June and June 10th. Just happened to be the date. Um, We had also I will just thinking it's a yeah. we had also looked at, you know, whether we should have started this before spring break, but then we thought spring break is just, it's such a pause and so, it would be like picking it up and looking at it and then The Angst and all of the worry where we've got a couple weeks where we can't and then we would be coming back. Um,
So yes. Oh Mr. Lewis, I forgot you were over there if I may help. Mrs. Tate just mentioned a couple of times that if you asked the staff to map, The plan. So if 1 of you or all of you were interested in playing 40 so to speak you can just Express that interest to us and then staff will make 1 of these Maps. That's what you mean by mapping it. You're not making a decision by next Friday to support or vote for 1 of those plans. You're trying to get it in the queue for the board to to consider.
So if that helps The Angst a little bit, so you're not actually deciding. This is my plan, you're just trying to get it in there. So on the night that you take those motions, somebody can make a motion for the staff plan, or for plan, 40, or 1 of the other as amended, so that you can get that in there. And then the rationale will be needed by then by Friday. But like Monday, we have another work session. So you could ask us to, to map it, we'll provide that. Then it will be in board docs, and then you'll be able to have it up on the screen. It'll be there and it will not it be pulled out of that system. So it's a little
more easier to digest if that helps still a little angsty. But yes, if you would go ahead and like plan a 40 since we know, What is out there? Let's go ahead and do that. Yes, uh, Mr. Steffy. Thank you, madam chair. Um, Miss I I'm looking at the um, The packet that is the attendant zone changes, um, from 2014 to 2015, through to 2025, um, and I'm wondering, is it possible?
Um, and possibly helpful to be able to take that and just overlay it onto the map. Somehow by color code just to see across visually, to be able to see how many times a given planning zone, whether impacted by the Staffing plan or not. Um was resand because I can see it from here but it's really just hard to make any conclusions in tabular in this uh Excel format. So I'm wondering is it possible to just
color code like you know a darker shade right or or yeah something like that. So I think it would really help us to zoom zoom in on that. That's an excellent question. And now that you say that I'm understanding you're asking us to color code this spreadsheet not to actually map it on a map. Um excellent point because we used to do that. I'm asking about the map. Oh you want them them on a map? I was thinking you were saying everything that was like a Freedom High School. We would color blue.
So that potentially you would see blue going all the way across the planning zone, but if it changed to Champ, whether it was purple and I probably should use the school colors, then you would see blue for the first 5 years. And then all of the sudden it was purple for the remaining 10 so that we can do to map them. Um, Wow. Um, there's definitely utility in the first in the former, but in the latter, I just just to explain, and I know if it's not reasonable, it's fine. But just to explain the utility
is, we would be able to look at the planning zones that were affected versus the others. And really just see, I don't know if the right word is equity or just really looking at who has been impacted over the last few years more. Um, and just look at it, according to um, each of the planning zones stuff that's all You have to answer that now, but so we will, we'll, I'll try to work something with you, but I will as an example. Um, and I have to pick 1 here. So let me, you know, indulge me well as an example and I probably should go back. Um,
Willowsford didn't exist in 2014 but it was part of a planning zone and so, um, and I'm not picking on the list for Bev and just that's just a obvious 1 for me. So, For residents of willowsford to say that you moved us, you know? However, many times its individual plannings. Yes. The land changed but there were no houses on it. So I I just I kind of want to um but you know seapatrick Farms, we
know they've been there a Stone Ridge has been there. South Riding has been there. I mean the first house was when my oldest was a baby and so you know, I kind of tracked that tracked that but um, so we certainly can. Um, I'll ask the GST team in the back if we can kind of work a map but uh certainly we can color code this and that might be, you're look and say, oh wow, it's yellow. All the cross. They haven't changed at all. That would HS 14. Do we have any idea? What that's going to look like? No ma'am.
But to Dr. She's earlier point. I mean, there is a reason why staff with this plan did not recommend Heartland ds8. Change schools with this process because we know they're contributing to growth at light, Ridge in Willard. The proximity of the Heartland Community to the hs1 14, Watson Mountain. Compass. I mean, they're the closest 1 in the Dallas and so there is a high likelihood
That at least a staff plan is going to recommend them go there and it's maybe a little logical that they might go there or they might go to Independence. I mean there. So there's a chance that hartland's going to move when HS 14 opens out of light Ridge and Willer, that will provide some additional relief for a light Ridge in Willard. Um, the intention is not to have modulars on those campuses for eternity. Um,
But no, we don't have a plan for hs1 14 yet. I mean we're, um, And that will involve more than these 6 secondary schools, it's going to involve Independence and Brambleton and briarwoods in Eagle Ridge and Rock, Ridge, and Stonehill. Um just because of where they are and potentially allowing County High School. I mean, it just because we have red seed, we've got schools that are going to sickle. And so, No ma'am. I mean, I know that we're also being asked to
really look at and use our existing uh schools which means read to read. Read was zoning. A little bit more in another couple years. Um, I think it's going to be a couple years, right? And then a real major look at everything and then we'll have more public commenters. I'm sure because we're going to be read resoning all over just to try and make it more. You know, is Equitable the right word or is it just
Evenly distributed. Let's say that way. Because we do have schools that are underutilized Rock Ridge high schools. Is that excellent example. Um, but yeah, Miss Chandler and ignoring you You may have a turn. Thank you, madam chair. Um, thank you, Miss Tate. Um, I'm curious, I I would like to Echo Mr. Strefezza request. I do think it would be very helpful to be able to see visually where districts have been impacted
in the past and I'm curious if there are any existing resources outside of board docs, where we might be able to track some of the movements that have occurred, especially in recent years, I'm certain, we have. the top I mean I have 4 docks certainly would but um, We yes. Our caveat though, again. As communities develop. We've split planning zones. So what may have been in 25, a
given number? It may be number Point 1 or 2 because as they develop. So but yes, we'll look and see what we can provide you. And um, Is, and if I've missed this um, tonight, I apologize in advance. But is there a Target number? That could be Quantified. In terms of like the best case scenario for evening out. we want to the reason we brought this before you at this
juncture instead of waiting and do it with hose 14, is that we've acknowledged that Mercer Middle School and Willard Middle School? Are over capacity and it's only going to get worse before. HS 14 opens and Watson Mountain transitions to a full-fledged Middle School. We had thought we could. Make it till then and we really can't. It's it's it's unfair to the students. It's unfair to the staff and there is available capacity at Lunsford and so while our plan is
not perfect and that everybody falls below 100%, we've tried to with intention pick areas that we believe we staff do not believe would change again, but would provide some relief to Mercer and lungs or Mercer and Willard in that interim. Um, And that's why we're here. If you look at the high schools, they're fine. But we also acknowledge that everybody wants the middle to feed to the high. And so we're trying to
When we make the recommendation of the Middle School level, we're transferring it to the high school as well. Um, But is there a specific number? Probably know to provide relief? Yes and so we just tried to reduce it to the extent that we felt needed to be relieved. But it yeah, it's not a Target percentage. Okay. Thank you. I mean the only reason some of those are fine is because they have modulars there. At this point.
At Willer Mercer has none. Yeah but language also has they're going to be getting them this fall. Okay. Uh Dr. Rasheed, thank you chair. You had mentioned. Um, That it was chair had mentioned that it was going too fast. I was wondering, what would be um, what would be the detriments if we not go fast and instead? Go slower or maybe even delay it. just out of curiosity, if you could tell me that Certainly, as the board's discretion. Um,
If you. I um, if you delayed it, It just prolongs either the overcrowding at the schools but granted we acknowledge that it's not changing until the fall of 26 and we wanted to do that now. So that everybody would know going into next year where they you know. So that it wasn't like a it's happening 2 months from now. Like if we were changing the adopting it in June and they were taking effect in August the first day of school for the 25th. So that was why we paused um the advantage of
doing it now is that we have boundaries in place and then we can do the surveying that's allowed with the exceptions to the school attendance. And we can do that in the fall. And it helps with scheduling, it helps with Staffing it. With course selection everything. Everybody will know where they're going. By. Next, the next fall. that also opens up the opportunity with the special permission process, which opens up, June, 1 and closes
April 30th that if there are opportunities for families. And I know we've heard a lot from those who have Rising 10th graders in the 26th, 20, That gives them that opportunity in that window to request special permission if it's a capacity is available at lightridge High School. So that would be why we'd want to do it now if you want to. Pause and wait until your last meeting in June to adopt, that's certainly at your prerogative. We would have to put notice out, we're running notice in local print, media and we've noticed all the communities. But um,
But we just from a staff perspective, we thought that it was important to have resolution by the end of the school year. People can go into the summer, they know what the next steps are, and Our last school board meeting is June. 24th. So it Yes, 24th. Because the 10th is I think when you're scheduled to adopt Presently just wondering if we can schedule to adopt on that date. That was still kind of give you the time you needed.
I mean, it would only Pro it would prolong it a couple weeks. but knowing that, we have to get some Apps in by Friday. That's what's giving me angst? so, I will be Quite. With you in trying to find dates. For meetings. And for hearings that were outside the schedule, it gets really tough particularly with graduations and end of school Year events. Um,
So we had just a few options, I don't know if you would still want to have your information item on the 20th and just give you more time to cogitate or if you would want. To move your information out to the 10th and you'd still need to have a public hearing between then and the 24th. Um, And I know we have like Juneteenth as a holiday. I mean there's just there's People start. Planning their vacation schools out people. Particularly those with athletes are probably going on
vacation in June because they've got to be back and try outs. It's just I, we will defer If I could add a couple of things that you risk, if if you postpone, it after the 10th in school, the last day of school was out, folks. Start going on vacations and then not here. Um and then a decision is being made when folks don't have the opportunity to come and speak to the board. Um because you run into those summer vacations. The other risk is if you don't make a decision on the 10th for whatever reason, you have a fallback for that 1 week, let's
say the board was in a discussion and wanted to have some more information if you wait till the very last meeting, then you you're postponing over the summer and back into August when everything's real busy. And essentially, we'd be starting over with information items after the break. So, I, um, I think it's if we run into trouble and, and folks are having, uh, concerns about having enough information having enough time, I think we can spend some time staff-wise to try to help everyone get there. Um, but I think it's a risk to change the schedule now, and then risk not having the decision made and folks missing that
opportunity to come to the board. Okay. Um, I'll also have to say a little bit about special permission. Light, which is going to probably be closed. For special permission. It is, it is right now. So I don't know that special permission and I think special permission. We've moved those dates as well. Correct. So it's a special permission window where I understand it begins right after the first of the year. So
whenever our first day, yeah January of. So it would begin January. 2nd, third, of, depending on when the first is of 2026, And we changed it. If they're 90% full. Correct, they don't have the opportunity. Correct? And so light Rouge. Um, that is correct, and it depends upon the attendance Zone, but that would the same special permission would apply at the middle school level. So it could be
Mercer or Willard or light Rage or John champe it's just that would be the opportunity and that window is Jan. Well, early January to the April 30th, correct. And the only people who would have the opportunity to stay at those schools would be Juniors. Like if they're you Middle School Rising seniors, Rising Juniors. We would survey and we would come back to you as a board. Um, you know, if 5 of those who are rezone said, um, if you
have, if you are a current High School, Student with a rising senior. They also are afforded that opportunity and then Rising eighth graders. Yes, ma'am. Dr. Rashid just 1, quick question. Um, is there a limit as to how many out of my Curiosities? There are limit to how many kids could be under 1 roof and not be violating like a fire marshal rule or anything like that. I was just wondering are you asking for the occupancy of the building if there's a rule, yes, they're, they're most, certainly is, um, a
code requirement or a code maximum that you can have in the building, but it is 3 times. The amount of numbers that we put in students. So the the, um, educational occupancy of a building is based on the number of classrooms and the number of students per classroom. Um and that we we figure 21 or 23 the code is somewhere in that 50 range. And so we we don't we don't get anywhere near the, the code requirement for that. So we're we're fine with those. Sure enough. Thank you. Um Madam chair, I'm wondering if
for me it's more than May 9th piece that's giving me a heartache just because I haven't gotten on there and played around with the zones yet being that, that's pretty much like a week away and we have a big board meeting on Tuesday. Um, so lots of preparation for that as well. So would We be a, is it, is there a world where the May 9th could push a little bit but we could stay on track with the public hearings in the meetings. If we felt like we didn't have enough time to adequately, look, through the plans that have been submitted. Yes. Um,
it would again, because The board items would go live. Right? So the 16th to 17th. So if we have any plans Like even by the 12th or even through that weekend, like gives us a more work time. So we said by May 12th, um close close of business, May Monday May 12th or noon on May 13th. We just have to be able to map them and get them ready. And
as long as it's not a 100 plans, they're okay. They're shaking their head shaking their table. Um, yeah. That's that's typically why? Because sometimes we would have really a lot of plans and it was very involved. But yeah I think if What if we said noon on? May 13th, Tuesday May 13th, would that work? Just gives us a little bit more time. I would like that just since I need need a especially hearing that plans are dropping in, I'm feeling like behind already. So I want to make sure we can
do that. Um, and I, I do like the idea of having it at the first June meeting because of the reasons that Mr. Lewis said with, with people, check out after school's out and that's not fair to the community in my opinion. And I also know that with our agendas lately, there have been times where we go home and don't finish at 10 p.m. and then things get bumped. And so to have that buffer room and to adhere to that policy, I think that that is wise. So I would be supportive of that. If we could have these extra days for the plans
I'm with Mr. Turn off on that. Um, and if we could put that on the website, Of that date. Yes we will absolutely this is the last and then so that is for them to uh put together the, you know, their proposal. Let's call it a proposal. And then we asked, okay, these are the maps that we want. Or do you want us to ask for the maps by that day? By that time. By noon on May 13th, we would need to know what maps and we
would need to have any. Justification rationale that accompanies them. As required by policy. Okay, so get your maps in before. The birth of the community. okay, and if you all come back next month and you say there are 8, Maps or 8 plans on the Virginia Tech and we'd like you to map them all. We'll do that. Um, There's 500 maybe not but yeah, but yes.
The Bell. Thank you, madam chair. We've had some discussion tonight, uh, that reference special permissions and I just want to take the opportunity to remind us all that special permissions. The reason for asking, for special permissions has changed and that the people that want special permission need to look at that and and make sure that they understand what those reasons are. And the reasons that they will be granted or refused. We've already had a few um
um, people using last year's uh policy and you need to use updated policy when looking at special permissions. So that's all I needed to say. Thanks. Miss label. Any other questions before we No. All right. Well, this is a lot of work to For all 9, new members to figure out. Um, I'll probably be calling Mr. Moors, Um so anyway, I appreciate all your hard work. I know this
isn't easy and I appreciate you guys coming out. Um, and so, is there any more business? Any more thoughts? Nope, seeing no more business. The April 30th 2025 Loudoun County School Board, public hearing and work session for the Della South Secondary School, attendance zone. Change process is now adjourned. Please drive safely home.