going to call the um the sorry November meeting of the retag committee meeting to order. We all stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice of >> Can we get the roll call, please? >> Uh, Frank Shyola, chair, >> present. >> Darcy Dean Murray, vice chair,
>> present. Katie Lakeman, Ashley Bruce, Francine Ramalia, Craig Lowour, and then Gabrielia Crosdale is present. >> Thank you. Any additions, deletions, or modifications to the agenda?
>> Yeah. >> Great. Okay. We don't have the minutes, correct, Gabriel? >> Yes. >> So, we don't have we can't approve them. Okay. Moving on to public comments. Do we have any public comments right now? Go ahead, Jody. >> If you do fill out the comment card,
please. >> You can fill it out after. >> No, I want you to do it. >> Please. It's on the record and everything, Jody. No, for real. >> Please state your name and your >> So, I've lived here since 2002.
And I think 2007 we were supposed to get trail. We were getting money by the county for the north road trail that aka road. >> Wait, sorry there.
Yay. >> Thank you. >> So, we still don't have a trail on North Road and everybody's aware. I've come to town many of times complaining about the rocks. >> I rode it with you. >> Exactly. So, are we ever going to pick
up that rock and make it multiuse? And for the record, 40th Street is not even in the proper place. >> Nope. >> Any suggestions? and and pretty much uh for public comments, there's no question
and answer part of it, but what we can do is we can put that on our next agenda and Craig can come back and tell us everything that's wrong or right or needing to be done or whatever and we can move forward with that. >> And also 161st Street Trail,
I don't see a trail there, nor do I see how anybody else could get to it. Thank you. >> Thank you. So, uh, Craig, if we can put that on our next meeting agenda for, you know, an update on both of those and see
what we can do to get those opened up. >> Unless Craig has an update. >> We've been working on started doing some of the clearing on North Road Trail um down at the corner close to to 160th down there. Started clearing it. Um, our
main priority right now is trying to finish 160th or 1601st and then we are heavily working on a road right now. Doing the A- road expansion. So, they're trying to knock those out. 161st is almost done. About to finish
sawing the ditch and the swale over there right now. So, they're doing the finish touches on that this. Let's see. Tomorrow gets the last bit of sod over there. So hopefully we'll pull that through out and be able to move on to another spot. >> Um just go and put that on the next our
next whenever our meeting is going to be at for you know an update on that so we can we can stay on top of that. Um and if you can just fill a public comment card and give it to Gabrielle when you're when you're done. Okay. Moving on to regular agenda. Horse Hitchen Post
and locations. 22nd Road North Park and South Sea Road. Can I talk? >> Sure. >> Let me turn this on. >> It's on. It would already be on. >> I don't have any idea why we would put a
hitching post at that little easement park on 22nd. It's kind of like >> someone brought it up to me. >> I mean, it just seems >> to put the the bug in your ear. >> Yeah. No, no. I'm just >> Yeah. Someone It was brought up to me to
be added um because are considered as a park, >> which I I understand the reasoning why and all that. I I >> But the the way to get to it is very hard. Correct. >> There's no actual horse trail to get to it. Yeah. Go down asphalt. >> And I live right there on 25th as you
probably know. Like I live on 25th and Sea Road. So like that's very close to me, but there's it's it's not the whole property. It's just that we just cleared the whole We cleaned it all up. Look at it. >> I'll have to go look at it. >> We raised the whole canopy in there. Clean the whole front of it, clean the
benches, everything in there. We just clean the whole place up. >> Nice. Maybe I'll take my dog for a walk down there or something sometime. >> I mean, I'm unfamiliar with that little section in there, but >> but yo, >> there was a a section of resident's
property they designated to the town as a park. >> Okay. >> There was a reasoning for it. Um, >> can we say the reasoning? that prevent people from living close to it. You can put a park in. >> Yes. Like certain people with
>> Oh, I remember that. That was a while back. >> 22nd. >> It's right by my house and road. >> Yep. If you turn on to 22nd, it's about four houses on the left. >> And it's a north >> in front of it is designated as a park
to the town. It's like our only park. >> West side. >> How how is it like a >> No, I mean west of the canal. >> Yes, ma'am. Okay. east of the canal. 22nd goes east and it'll be on the north side of it's a little tiny thing >> goes in the driveway. There's two little
plastic benches in it. >> How how big is it? Is it what is it? A quarter acre >> if that right. I remember >> the whole front sl >> Yeah, we don't have a designated park other than this one, but that's county
park. >> Yeah, that's county park. That is like our only park. 3 ft before. >> I mean, if somebody's going to come in there and they're going to need a place to tie their horse up if they want to sit there, yes, I could see putting a hitch rail in,
>> but other than that, you know, I mean, there's really nothing else. They're going to have to go on the road or off the road to get to it. There's no way they can access anybody else's property. Correct. >> So, I mean, if somebody wants to, you know, sit there >> and because all there's a bench there, a
couple benches there, that's it, right? >> Yes. So I mean if if somebody if if residents want it there then you know I say we can put it there for it's a minimal cost right what is what's the cost for um you know
>> from wood to to to steel what's the >> what is the cost difference is it would >> and what's where's the one at South Sea >> the reason I put the one at South Sea is I know like Katie brings her horses down there by trailer um some Harvey does
>> and Jody. So >> you So my idea was that was is >> if you don't want to say you're don't want to tie it off to your trailer, you we have hitching poses. We can put one right at the front of the the entrance
going into the park. >> I think that's a great idea. >> We we did remember we did get permission from Solar Sport that we can go put it like in the middle of the park if we wanted to. We just have to give them the location where we're going to put it. >> That's the to be named park, right? Yes. >> She also said we could put a remember a
water trough and a mountain block. >> Well, they said they were put >> Yeah, they said they were gonna actually put a water trough in the park, >> but right now there's no water in there. So, it's kind of nice even though it's not a big place. It's it's something that we actually have. That's good. You know, >> we can connect to
>> it's better than the stuff we had before, >> right? We're, you know, that's all you can do is start somewhere. So, so the you know the so we have the you know we can put those in that's a great idea but we have to figure out do we want wood or do we
want do we want um steel piping you know the difference is that >> is obviously a whole lot cheaper >> have something build on the wall >> and what kind of hitching post is it going to be is just a pole >> yeah I don't know if you seen the ones
that are at like bon off at the side so it be you know fence post. Another fence post on top metal strap over bolt them together so they stay together. They won't pull apart. Obviously, we'll concrete the post in the ground so they can't be pulled out.
>> Do you have like a price difference or not really, just >> I haven't actually priced them out, but >> I mean, I think that we should use the money for something else and and go with the less expensive one is my opinion. But >> yeah, >> I have a Can we ask a question about
that park? >> Sure. There's a lot of undeveloped land there. What what is left of what's left there? Is any of that going to be trails or >> So what's the conservation area stays as conservation area as I'm told? But
what's out front that's out by the road that's actually like zoned for commercial? >> I know, but they keep pushing the road closer and closer. So are you talking about our road on Sea Road? >> I'm talking about the trails on Sea Road. like how much of that property that's not developed cuz it's hard to
see which part because we can still ride on some of it that's not designated for the park. I'm saying >> yeah there's property there that we have been riding on and have ridden on that I'm not sure if it's part of the trails or it's to be soon to be developed
because you're saying that it butts against southern but they keep pushing the southern part back. I'm just curious. So if you >> hard to show you, but on actual >> SE road, >> they're seaw road from all the way down
where they actually tangerine would come out if they push tangerine all the way through from the actual like wawas area. >> Okay. >> From like that going back I believe is the actual conservation area. I don't think they're actually allowed to come into that. This is a designated
conservation. So, can we use Pineapple as a kind of a >> what? >> Pineapple Drive. There's a Pineapple Drive on the map. >> Pineapple runs between D- Road and >> Cro Road. >> Right behind the post office and all
that. >> Where the old Tangerine used to be? >> Yeah. >> On the map, it's still called on the actual GIS. It showed this tangerine that actually went through before it got bought out and closed off. So if we just say draw a straight line,
everything's north of that is everything. >> Yeah. Everything in general as of the map for commercials tangerine. The southern is commercial. >> Tangerine southern. >> So that's lines up with pineapple.
>> So if you draw a straight line to here, like it looks like it's going to come back. So all this is the worst collecting canoe. >> So we have all that. I thought they had switched out for the hotel. >> The hotel's filmed in the back behind
like uh >> Is there a way you can bring it up so we can >> Yeah, I think >> because I think we have less I think we have more than we think we have according to what you're saying. >> Do we know like that how many acres that
is the Look at her baby technology. >> Look at these maps. Stop. >> Where do we look? >> You're going to go west. >> Go west. >> Go west. Off of southern straight. >> Okay.
So easier. I know. I'm saying. >> All right. Very. So, >> so everything from this, >> what is that? >> That's tangerine. From tangerine down. I know this is all commercial.
>> The trails are here. >> That >> Yeah, >> cuz there's an actual opening coming into the trails right here. >> Where? Okay. So, where would trailer parking be? Where is the water supposed to be? Just >> I don't know where they're putting the where they're they said they're going to put a trough. She didn't give me a
designated area. >> Tanger. Not Not just necessarily me, but us. the where Tangerine ends towards the east. That little dirt road is pineapple is what I was talking about. >> This one here. >> Yeah. Right there. >> Yeah. This would this is where Tangerine
used to come through at one time. Um but the you know you do have the canal bank that is here that we are considering a horse shell comes down. It does connect to here as well. There's a horse trail coming alongside here that does connect out to here that crosses
over B- road that does connect to back to here. >> Okay. Right there. right where you're at. >> We're I'm replacing that gate right there. So, you can go that way. >> Okay. >> I've already told I've already talked with the college. This gate right here is getting replaced with one of our big
gates and I'm putting a 36 inch gap so horses can't cross through. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, you'll walk all the way down all the way around. You can almost if you wanted to connect the A- road backside a road of duck pole and you can take that all the way Okobee all the way back to her house.
>> Nice. Okay. So, on the sea road south, I guess that's what that's called where I park. >> Yep. Here. >> No, that's >> Oh, >> that's B. I'm sorry. Southern. >> Yeah. >> You park here.
>> So, you're heading north. Say you turn on from southern boulevard south >> and you go towards collecting canal. >> The trails are up there now on the west side of the road. >> Yep. It's like the entrance is right here.
>> It's going to stay the way it is. >> If I had to say this is the whole conservation area here and this is going to be this is a wetlands area here. This they can't change. They have to maintain this. And I know there's like the trail that
kind of comes around here, but they've had to drive it to chase kids out of there on four-wheelers. Me too. >> And then is there not a trail from sea going east at south of the canal? from here going east. >> Yeah. >> Yes. There's a whole entire the canal
bank all the way down to to the gate that's here with the horse crossing that's right here with the with the ballards in >> right next. >> So you can cross there and you can actually ride the the road down to here and then if you wanted to cross the concrete bridge you can come down here.
>> That's a great long trot that can bank. >> This is very open and very >> Can we get this all on like a map sometime? Yeah, I have the big map already >> of like all the horse trails that I've marked out. >> Yeah, like what you're showing us now as that was open.
>> I I think Well, I made it one time for Richard to be presented. Um I think it's in Jeff's office. You want me to grab real quick for you? >> Sure. If you have time, >> give me one sec. I think it's in Jeff's office. >> Or just those hitching posts. I think it
was all day and then approved the signs. >> Well, no, the signs are already approved. You just brought him here so we can see him and to tell where he's going. >> Talk about the location. >> Yeah, >> I I had to make a comment. Sorry. >> You're gonna have to submit another one,
but I mean you could just do that. Have they all been named? >> I have to get up. >> Yeah. Well, >> yeah, you need to get up because everything is recorded and somebody could be watching this. I want so it's you know it's it's all about transparency and
>> so um but before we go any further just to keep us on track with the agenda >> you know we need to just stick start with the horse hitching post and we can go into to that afterwards. >> Okay. >> You know, so we're so we need um >> so the reason for the horse hitching
post was there was an option for you guys to make it more question make it more accessible for you guys on the horses if you wanted to stop. Hey, I want to pick garbage up. I need to touch horse something. >> That's me, >> you know. Yes. >> Um you at least put a couple hitching
posts in the area for you guys. That was my idea on it. >> Great. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> So, I'm I'm good with them. It's just the question of I guess uh >> pipe and location. Is that location? >> Yeah. Pipe or wood. >> I say wood. >> And I mean wood is nice, but wood
eventually has to be replaced. Pipe is going to be there to stay. >> But I mean, it's up to you. Whatever you guys want. >> We all agree on wood. >> The wood looks much more equestrian than that. >> And they're going with, you know, PT, you know, pressuret treated fence post.
the big fence post we're gonna go from. So it'll be there for a long time. >> 4x4s. >> Yeah, it be longer than me. >> It's round. >> It'll be your like your big fence post. >> No, these are the post. They have one over at the college. >> Are these 4x4 fence post?
>> No, they'll be 6 in diameter. >> So I'm Yeah, six inch. I'm hear that or or 6x6, you know, square for the base and >> try to go round when you actually wrap the rains around it. They stay up. >> So horses
round. >> So So we're going to go with with wood, right? >> I think so. >> And with the locations of 22nd Road, North Park, C Road or Sand South Sea Road, right? >> We need a motion. >> We need a motion to approve.
>> I motion to >> We're getting two. Is that where we're at? We're getting one for that for the park by the parking area where I go. That's where we're starting. And then one on 22nd. >> Yeah, we can put multiples at the South Sea area wherever you guys like you guys
use it. So that's why I bring it up because I need your input >> where you would like them. If you want one halfway through the middle of the the park over there, next time you ride it, imagine, hey, I want one here, then you can get back with me and let me know
where you want it. I think I think it's a lot of it is for the look of the where people are using this for horses, you know, >> that's why I want the mounting block there in the water because I don't the kids with the side by sides and whatever. I want them to be like, "Oh, look that, you know, people are really
want this for the, you know, >> but it makes me feel bad." >> Makes you feel bad. >> I think so. Anyway, I move for it to be wood in the designated places that we will >> do. Do we have a second on the motion? >> I'll second.
>> Okay. Any other public comment on that or any other comment by anybody? Okay. All in favor of the motion? I >> I. >> All oppose. Motion passes. Three to zero. >> That's good. >> That's it. >> Good hit pitch post. Yay.
>> Yay. Thank you. >> Um I did want to bring in the present sign. >> Yeah, please do. >> So you guys can see it. Um I big >> I have already put them up on a road already. >> A- road. >> Two of them are up on a road. One down
by one a road and north road and the other one is at the beginning of they call it Lakeside Drive right where 161st. So when you go to 161st that actual is called Lakeside Drive. >> Yes. >> One at the canal bank right there. And
then there's actually >> one at the new gate we put down at a road and um North Road. >> Okay. >> The new the new yellow gates we just spread. >> And how many of these do you plan to put up? >> All over. >> Great. >> What's the count? >> Right now I only put up two.
>> No, I'm make >> Oh, I can order however many I need. Right now I've only bought five just so you guys see them before I went and spend a ton. >> The only thing I have to say, I mean, it looks great. I think it's nice. Um, everything is there that needs to be
there except the all dogs on trails are subject to Palm Beach County laws and I'm just catering to the least common denominator that no one's going to look up to see what the Palm Beach County laws are. Is there a way that we can just change it that says all dogs need to be on a leash? >> Well, the the reason that we said you
said that originally was because >> I didn't care. So, I >> Yeah. And and the reason that we that that was put in that way is because if you start saying put it on a lease, then you have to do all the other laws that go with it. Yeah. >> And if you just go and put out that they have to abide by the Palm Beach County
laws. >> No one's going to look up what the laws are. So I mean, right, we can't just say must be on a leash. That's kind of >> that it's already in format and ready to go. I'm just asking is it that's my opinion because no one's going to be like, "Oh, I don't know what the laws are and their dogs are running running
loose." They're just going to play ignorant. >> I mean, it's you guys who already have five made. I mean, like I made them because you guys have to last meeting. >> I understand that. I'm just asking since you only had five made, we can use those. But for is there a way? It's a
yes or no question. Can they be changed? >> Right. >> I have to change them and change them for all. >> I'm just That's my for the record. I just think that no one's going to look up to see what the Palm Beach County laws are and they'll play ignorant and say, "Well, >> but do we want to spend our money taking
the signs down?" >> No, I don't want to take them down. Just >> Well, that's what he said. He's going to do all of them or >> Okay, then the answer is no. Can we get one put up at at the bridge like ASAP? >> Wood bridge. >> Yeah. >> I've been begging for one for there for
the only trail that we have >> the off-road and the bridge. Oh, that's not a the only trail I know of is the sea road one. >> Ours has a mark with a sign that goes all the way from up from the park all the way to here. >> You know, the overall plan is one's
going to get put right here at F and uh Citrus >> E Citrus right here because that's the actual beginning of the trail coming out of Baptist Park tier. One will go there. One will go on Okchobee east side of F as you know going all the way down towards F all the way to at North Road
as well. So I mean that they're coming all the way down. Obviously when we get F is about to start the crossing. We're widening that to make it where the horse trail is going to go alongside that as well. >> Craig, is there going to be one on this se road trip >> in here or
>> like at the entrance of at >> wherever you want? I I think it definitely needs to be one there. the entrance of the trail if nothing else. One on this entrance on SE road south or whatever you want to call it and one on the other side. So when people are entering that they can at least see that
you know it's supposed to be non motorized vehicle >> and I'm only asking for one there now because a lot of us have been riding north road to preserve and then >> no problem. I just haven't gone crazy. >> Do they reflect at night? >> Huh? >> Do they reflect at night? >> Yes, ma'am.
>> Awesome. >> That's why you see it's kind of shiny. >> Yeah. So, you know, pretty much we have you have the the approval to to do it, to make the signs, and wherever we need to put them at, we can we can put them there. >> Yeah. So, wherever you think they need to be at, just let Craig know, and
>> yeah, >> they'll get they'll be put up, which is which is great. >> The one over here on each side of that. And then, you know, eventually I'd like to see them on every canal bank, but no, we can't do them all in one day. >> No. And the ones that should go up now are the ones that are mostly where
people are writing, >> right? >> And then we'll get together. I really want to do that drive around. >> Yeah. We're playing so much back when I was driving. >> So, so now I have time. >> It was getting them packed and moved. And
>> so now that that we >> across the country twice >> now that we got the force hitch and post thing, if you want to do the map and show show everybody where the um you know why you brought the map out. Yeah. So, I'm present the map out to you guys up here.
Um, >> okay. >> So, here's uh G Sued. >> All right. Obviously, G Squank down Frost. You can get to the North Road by your house. You can come all the
way down. Um E- road if this was in journal E- road here was if you actually crossed over the bridge this canal bank you can access all the way down to cross over the wooden bridge here that's yeah
>> um plans are right here we're take out the big palmettos here and we're going to put another gate there that we can cross over >> same thing with over here I'm removing this gate and I'm making it accessible cuz we are putting a horse gate here as well >> so we did get at the >> Y cars.
>> It's ours. >> Yep. >> Okay. It's our property. >> Nice. >> The attorney said it's our property. We can access if you want. >> That was a point of contention. >> Yeah. M said no, but it's our property. >> Can I throw something in there? So, if you were going to ride a horse there and you didn't live where Darcy lives, where
would you park? >> That's That's the deal. We don't at Darcy's house. >> No, I park at your Everybody does, but that's fine. I parked at a friend right here. But I'm just saying >> that that's one of the limit doesn't own enough property
>> to say, "Hey, we have horse, you know, we have parking here. We have a park there." We're lucky on Sea Road >> that we have the town actually has that extra little chunk of property alternative stop >> that we actually we're using for storage right now for material. >> Not for nothing. >> We could work on, you know, where the
nudest colony is, like that little area there where their entrance is. Maybe we could. >> That's this here. Maybe we could do something with parking there. You know, >> um that road we couldn't block it at all. It's still considered a road because it's for emergencies. Okay.
>> So, if we have a hurricane or a tornado or any kind of emergency, the fire department and the police department have access to go through that gate when they need to. >> Yeah, there's >> they have a key to that lock. >> I think the combination works there on arm too if I'm not mistaken. >> No, not on any trails gate. >> No,
>> they have their lock and that's it. They have their lock and a Nox a Knox lock on there. >> Yeah. >> Um at this right here is where the bridge is. There's a sign that says this is a trail. >> Yeah. Yeah. This this I I've already updated this map.
>> There's a whole new updated map. Everything like this is green on the map. This is green. >> This one is green because this is when I got to change this gate here. >> The college. >> Yeah, the college is here. So you would able This is an actual trail coming here. So if you came here, you can go
all the way down. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And this is what I think that's what I do right here. >> This whole thing here cross. This is what I want to do. Go down. >> Yeah. So you can you can come down. This gate is open. If you cross here once I remove this gate and I already talked to
college we're going to do it. You can come down to here. >> Come down. Go around our gate here. Our release gate. Come down. And you can travel all the way back down. Go to this lady's house right there. and park right there all day. >> He doesn't care. Now,
>> now I know people have spoken about the easement. I think yes, that one that's this is West Lake. This ement here you're talking about. Oh, you talking actually there >> that's not our property. >> No, I property goes at Bright River.
>> Right fences. Yep. That's they have back here. Mike decided to go trail riding here. >> Yeah, that's Wesley. If they wanted to, they can say you're trespassing. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, there was a little policeman on a side by side. >> Yep. >> Didn't even trust me.
>> Approach the town to approach their town to see if we can get that. It's on ours. It's on this side of the >> Yeah, but that's on their property. That's their fence. >> So, they did say I asked them why we put here. We weren't giving anything. They said because it's a liability. So I
looked across the way and there's people jogging and exercising on their >> That's more of a liability than this. >> So maybe we could ask >> We can ask them and see what they say because I know they're trail.
>> Yeah. Like I said, we this is already done. The pipe is here. We're putting a gate here so we can cross here, here, and here. law that used it for trial for 30 years >> and then it doesn't >> the the lawyers would end up being able
to tell you what that is. I mean there are certain certain things you can do but the thing was that that actually was uh seen improvement district and then it went over to the city of Westlake. So the city of Westlake has been, you know, if it's still seinal,
>> it's it's basically going and talking to seminal improvement district about maybe we can go ahead and use that as a shared use for something like that. But that's something for future discussion. >> We got enough grass to mow. Our canals are way better in its
>> This is not the road, is this the canal? >> This is road 25, but you would access the west or the south side of the canal. Yep. >> On the south side of the canal, you can come down to here and you can cross over to here >> and you would cross over on
>> Yeah, we drive down with the machine build up. >> We mow it all. >> Can when you your >> I have this digital so we can send an email green. >> And so here we're talking the park is here, right?
>> Yes, park is here. >> Do the little trail go through that square goes down. And then here's when you go over behind the college. >> This is the college here. But this is when you cross the that little area there that's like right behind >> public that little square.
>> Yeah. Right. Okay. We have no access here. No one's actually going to Boulevard. I mean wanted to you can ride down
available if you have there church. They own this property. that little part. This is green now. High Park. That's the new trail we just put in. >> That's green. Ruber's green. KC, we
haven't got on to it yet. >> 161st trail >> right here. This 161st. When we dug, red dug the whole ditch line down it. As we were digging, we were putting dirt on the opposite side to build that side of the road up as well. >> So, is that on the west of the ditch? So
the ditch would be on the east side. It would be the east side of the road. There's there's some of the properties we can't get into because some residents don't want to give up with any kind of trees. We have the easement. It's just fighting for one tree is not worth fighting for the war.
>> And actually a road is a lot wider than it used to be. >> So the child on the east side >> that will never happen. >> Water. >> That we're counting our main not us. That's counties, not ours. We have zero easement to here. >> We ask county, >> huh?
>> Why can't we >> because they have to go for the homeowner and the homeowner has to designate it to the town for it to be an easement and he has already said no. He won't do it. >> And we actually tried to get him to do that years ago and we said no. >> Yeah.
>> So >> Mhm. >> Yeah. He bought he bought the whole property and rebuilt the whole place. >> Well, it's a start. >> We can get creative. We're doing a lot better than we did a few years ago. >> I'm slowly working at it. >> At least I'm trying to >> I'm trying to like do it, you know.
>> And I know that they were saying that new people that buy a property, like new people that move in that they're going to start asking them if they will. >> Yeah. So, we're we're trying to get like connections like we did for High Park. All right. High Park. We got the two residents here to actually let us and
designate that for a multi-purpose trail. So when we when we redid the swale here, we put in a 15 foot trail in there, horse trail, a connector. So one of the biggest things is is like, you know, like Rubers's a crossover, you see headed crossover.
>> It's just at Wellington, you had like the whole Appaloosa area. They designated their own property for connectivity for trails through their whole neighborhood. foresight. >> It's just it would be nice if Hey, cuz at one time this remember this used to be the the railroad that came across
here. >> Yep. I I >> actually it was right here. This is the railroad marker right here. See these little cutouts >> coming through? These were the old easements coming across. >> My house right here. >> Yeah. This is the old easements that were there for the railroad at one time.
>> I know. I paid taxes on it. But the the dilemma there would be that you have to cross a canal each one to have to put bridge at every >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Well, you know, and and the thing was that this was the only thing out here
back in the 20s and 30s when this property sold. Royal Palm Beach wasn't even thought of. Wellington was a cow pastor, >> you know. So, this is why we're at that point today. >> Wellington was able to plan their stuff. >> Oh, it's >> Yeah, Gruber. This would be green on the new map. already made. That's great. We
did do that. >> What about back here crossover there is? >> Yeah, I understand. It's just you have to get >> talk to a homeowner and say, "Hey, would you be willing to give up 15 ft?" >> Wait, that one lady we talked to the son's building over here.
>> They're here. The lady that's building right here. >> She's back there in the back horning. >> Yeah. She thought we needed >> then you had someone who just bought the two lots here. But would it would her giving us an easement? >> She's here. She's here. She wouldn't
affect you here. >> And then the north road. >> This is all northro here. We started clearing all this right here. We did go down and start doing heavy mowing like really pushing all the stuff back into like back to the edge of properties. Um
>> where's all the roof rocks that got all spilled? >> So the You want to explain what happened? >> Yeah. So, the way the easements work are this is the houses, right? The road
right now is over here. Supposed to be here. Previous management, public works, when they put the road in, they put it out here. The cost efficient, the cost of moving all the material and moving
everything over is just more. It's the cost is more than what it would be just to put the horse shell up against the fence line right now. It just to roll the whole road and move all the internal re dig the whole shell up fence area now to put put a whole new subbasin in and
do a subfloor. It's just it wouldn't be beneficial and cost it down. >> The road's already built and compacted right now. >> What are we doing? >> Making a side, right? >> So here's your houses, right? This is the canal. The road is here. We have
this here. >> It's just a lot of it's just all grass. >> See? >> Yeah. You're you're away from the canal. You're in between the road and the fence line. So, we're going to sit there and clear this all the way down and build it up. There's there are pipes coming off like the one that's come from yours all
the way down. We're going to pull this pipe, extend it further back into the property. So, that actual horseshoe will go all the way through instead of you coming down going into the road and doing this. There's three of them that we are going to extend out. That's already in the works. >> Awesome.
>> So our big our biggest thing right now >> and you're doing that all the way down to like the new phone. >> Yep. >> So some even like so like in front of the soft doesn't have a road. There was no there's no reason for a roadway there, >> right? >> There's just our canal bank that is the road is
>> well there's not even a road there. It's just whoever drives down that grass area. So like you see like what we have at Shell Rockrock is actual design dedicated easement for roadway. The other spots do not have it because I went down every single property and look through all their easements all the way
down all the way to >> Awesome. >> Then I think not that it's our property but on the 140th here they have horse fencing on that what road that get. This
is the lift. We always call it the Larry bypass right here. >> Larry bypass. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, there's you can see. >> So it actually comes like this, comes to here and then goes up like this. This is not here anymore. They close this off. Throat comes up, goes like
this, goes here, and it goes down. That's a nice >> This is where they down here. >> But they have it where you can ride the horses through. >> Yeah, there's an open cross where they call >> like a cut, >> but you can cross right here, too. the big yellow gate. >> That's a nice ride back there though. >> Mhm.
>> We're trying to keep it maintained back in there traffic, but it's also on >> I think it's called Little Pearl Creek is the actual area. >> I think it's called >> So we um we we can finish up the agenda and we can you everybody can talk about
this afterwards and >> because the problem is is that nobody out there in uh Townland can see all the the stuff that's going on here. >> Okay. >> So, >> perfect. Thank you, Harris. Also, >> so uh regular agenda number two,
discussion of future meetings. >> Craig, go ahead, sir. I'm sorry. >> Uh future meetings. >> Um we had spoke, you and myself, correct? >> Yes. And it was so the next meeting we
were debating on to ask all the the members if they wanted to push off December. >> I don't want to push off either. We keep >> We can go straight into December. It's right before Christmas. You'd like >> do the 18th. >> Yeah, that's on there. Third Thursday
the 18th is it is the >> Okay. Um, I do have one question. Prior to Craig becoming our rep, we had a bunch of questions that were supposed to be presented to council.
>> Do we um know what happened to the answers to those? Um, >> you weren't here either, but we were asking about the park here if we could put something for the horses other than what the trails to connect to the park.
>> Yeah, they were going to approach the county about that, but Ashley had all the questions. >> I know. >> Well, I guess I'll send an email. Oh yes. >> Well, the thing is >> a lot of good question. >> We have that big beautiful park, right?
So I think that some of it should definitely be designated to, you know, something other than >> that field. >> Yeah. Any of it. >> Well, I mean that was county's deal was back here that the horse trail would be the destination for the horses back
here. >> And another question was guarantee that they're going to say no to let a horse out in the middle of that field. We don't even necessarily need to be in the middle of the field. Just maybe a perimeter trail through there or something like that. >> Um
>> I don't we don't need to run. >> So we're so we're at committee we're at committee member comments. So um you know it's okay. I know the other um question was if there's that drain drainage from the hospital that's next
door to Vincor Ramos, Vince Ramos, however it's pronounced to their east. If we could maybe somehow lease that or annex that or something because that would make a really nice lock park. You said behind
>> hospital like from um with Vince Ramos on 20 >> he's on six court north >> six court directly directly east. >> We're we're trying to see if the the hospital then keep pushing that. >> Are you're talking that's a drainage
ditch though. That's on Paba. It's considered their drainage. >> Well, they have that that whole lake area back there >> and and they have to keep that the way it is. as part of that was part of their original agreement when they built that. So, there might be a way to go ahead and
be able to work something with them to access that area in there if we take care of fencing it off and because there's really no maintenance is being done back there. >> So, all it is is just if we can maybe work with them, >> they're immunable and we can take up the um you know, the liab the town can take
up the liability on that and like a in like a long-term lease and you know, something to think about. I know um in speaking to when Davy was being developed they couldn't fight development so they came to an agreement
where there's a development here and development here and the back easements each development shares so they for connectivity and some of the property if it was FPNL or um Bell South or whomever you could
lease it from them for like for a dollar for a or something something like that. So maybe that would be something >> we have I have to get with Jeff on that even though >> because I know that you would >> there's a spot in the fence where you can access to and we did kind of go in
there one day rode around and >> you fences down all the way down. >> It's a really nice and I wouldn't be surprised if the kids at Vince Ramos were cutting through there trailblazing like we used to back in the day. Um, >> I'm just sitting there. We would get to
that. But >> well, if we go up road right down six court, it's still it's still a dirt road. >> Where would we start? >> Sam, where would you park your trail? >> Yeah, I live on Se.
>> No, you live it here. >> We have trails right here, right? went those trails in here in here. >> There's no >> I don't know. You've never seen my plan.
>> I did. Remember? >> I helped you back. >> Possibly park inside the county park. >> Are we permitted to do that? >> Well, it stopped me from parking in there. >> Nothing. I just want >> Yeah, you can as long as you park anytime you want. Long as it's not go
from night time. Yeah. >> Okay, great. No, good to know. I didn't know there's anything that says you can't park. >> No, you you can park in there. There's nothing to stop you from doing it. >> Just have to be out there before they close the gates for you have to come back next morning.
>> Mr. Green has been sitting there waiting for >> And I mean, if that's a an accessible property, maybe we can make a little a little pull out, you know? >> I mean, this is all future down the road. It's not immediately, but the
propertyy's sitting there. It would help with connectivity. >> Oh, no. >> And it would be a nice park. A lock site. She goes park. >> Darcy, does that complete your comments? >> Yes, >> Katie. >> I don't think I have any more comments. I've already put mine right in there.
Oh, thank you for Okay. So, how's my garbage going that I sent you the picture books? That goes >> I sent it to Miss Diane Jenkins. So where it goes from there, she like she stated when she was here, she only has one maintenance guy that comes around
once in a month that day go through. >> It's rough. So if there's a lot in there, um maybe next week I can send somebody through. We can do like a little quick cleanup and one of my guys threw in the cart and take them right through to clean it. Just as long as
it's okay because you have to walk that fine line between, >> you know, using public funds on private property. >> We just clean that up. >> Yep. >> Katie, do you have any more comments? >> No, sir. >> Um, my comments are is that great job.
We're have more trails than than we had five years ago. We have, you know, quadruple the amount of trails we had 20 years ago. Um, we're moving forward. I like the signs that that are are there. Hitch and Post are going to be a good addition. Um, we just need to get with
if Craig, if you can get with the um I forget the lady's name that that is the um the realtor for the uh the Aldi's all that property over there. >> Diane Jenkins, right? Thank you. >> And just get with her and say, "Hey, you know, when do you plan to put in the water trough and the and all the other
stuff?" And say, you know, we'd really appreciate it and and um go from there because the more stuff that we get done, that's the less stuff that we're going to be talking about. you move forward with, you know, because there's going to be issues going down the road just like we were just talking about today. Well,
you know, how do we get how will we be able to access the hospital property, the wetlands back there, you know, if we could, you know, there's some wetlands that you can't access at all. There are wetlands in perpetuity. There's those other that wetland areas across on the other side of Sea Road south of Kleton
Canal and those are wetlands in perpetuity. So, could we gain access to that for some reason? You know, these are all things that need to be worked out in in the future. So, the more we're getting done today, that means that we can put all this stuff behind us and it's getting done and people can see
it's getting done. More importantly, we all can see it's getting done and we're not wasting our time up here and I thank you for that because you're definitely a driving force in that. >> Can you also ask about naming that park so we >> we asked um it was one of the things she said that she didn't have a problem with
naming it. >> Okay. >> The last committee that you choose here. So I think it was one of the things best come up with the >> a name presented to you. You'll present it to her. Okay. >> So I can put that on next month's agenda. So you guys talk
>> and also on next month's agenda. Any update on on North Road >> um North Road Trail? Oh, also, um, did anybody say anything to you about the mirrors that used to be up at the corners that are are gone now that were put up years ago?
>> Which ones? We've been replacing them lately. >> There was one at North E at the corner. >> Yeah, we did put a new one up there and it just came up missing. >> That was there. And then there was one at the end of North and G Square east.
>> Yep. And we we that was a brand new one. Then the south one >> put one up on 22nd. >> We need came >> today >> 22nd in and e one of our our roads. >> Um one more thing I wanted to ask really
quick since we're we're we also our roadways. Um how's the expansion of a road coming? I drove down it last week and it looks really good. What's your estimated completion all the way to um Okachobok? No, I'm like, quit messing around.
>> You You almost had to there, didn't you? >> Not me. >> What are we expanding? >> Hey, we're winging the roads out. >> Yeah, take a ride down there. It's awesome. Looks great. >> The the >> You're paving it, right? >> The first half we're ready to wind it up. Push it out a lot. Um already doing the cow bank. We're actually coming up a
nice two to one slope instead of our normal straight up and down. Get rocked and sawed and everything. So, it actually looks pretty nice. >> And then the paving over it, >> huh? You're paving it. >> Yeah. >> And then where's the trail that we you showed us? >> It's going to be So that trail is over
on the one that you see on there is on the dump side >> on the canal side. >> West side, the canal side. Yeah. >> So there's no actual like design. I' got to get with the new engineer on design if we're going to be able to have room to put horse trail in on the actual new
road >> on the east side. >> Yeah. Because there's most of it we asked for more property. for easements and we got so much push back so we had to bring it back. >> And this is for uh Gabrielle just if you can have the minutes of our last meeting
that we had and this meeting. Can you have so we can vote on them sign so we don't spend Yeah. we don't have everything bunched up. We'd appreciate that. Okay. So the confirmation of the next meeting is Thursday, December 18th,
2025 at 5:00 PM right here at town hall. We're all good with that? Yep. >> Okay. Motion to adjurnn. >> Move to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Yay. >> Thank you, Jody, for coming.