to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Amen You have approval of the minutes now
from your last meeting which was February 27th Okay Um I move to approve the meeting um agenda from our last meeting Um the last meeting was cancelled so it's the meeting prior So
that is true You're right Thank you for correcting that I second All in favor Okay The meeting meeting minutes are approved Um I would turn it over to Mr Galant at this point unless you want to
add anything to the agenda at this point Ashley um we'll go after Mr Mr Glant Okay All right So the only uh regular agenda item is a discussion of the rural road standard improvement standards Um these standards were brought have been brought
before you twice now Once in January once in February Um I have not had any comments corrections questions or anything from anybody So um does anybody have any questions comments suggestions
I have still not been able to sit with my respective council person to go over them I mean it's pretty pretty general Um but I I would like to at least have a chance to discuss it with Anita Trying to catch her is a little difficult Okay Yeah I mean you can ask questions
independent of her if you like it You can No I understand But that was I do have one question though This trails master plan is that a written plan Because I know it's not part of this but it says that there's a trails master plan which is an expression of the town's desire Is there a written I think
at this point it's a map I don't we're actually that's one of the things we're working on is both a drainage and a trails like actual design and plan details and stuff like that That's a lot of projects I'm working on In your minutes of the last meeting you had
discussed and reviewed the MREG which was done in 2009 That was the last time that there was actually a master trails plan Um so that was it Yeah So what we have um is a big map showing where
people ride um and where people want to ride Um and I think that that will be a topic of discussion for this committee to decide you know where we want to fill in the trails Do we have a copy of that now Um I do have a big one that I can
bring in Go ahead Richard Take over the Oh that's what you get the No no I'm going to go ahead and get it I do think that you should let Richard run through this at least a little bit page by page and kind of talk about what's in here because and
and just for context just just for context so I understand it So the procedure here is you want us to review this comment on it questions and then you're going to be presenting it to the council for approval later That is the way that yeah pretty much what you would do is we would you know
um the best I understand it anyways is that you know you know you guys would review it comment make any suggestions whatever um that could be incorporated into this plan and then you would discuss it with your council member say you know we had a meeting and this is
what we discussed um and then they would this has also been given to them as well this is and and then just so it's it's an updated February The the previous version of this was this from the merg in 2009 or has it no this is new like
this I created this so this is not updated this is 2009 I don't know the previous one had a road standard so yes this is just roads that one was for trails for that was more comprehensive two separate things okay that yeah makes more sense actually so this is more this
is the initial then this is like an initial beginning one improvement road rule improvement standard right the intent is to create three separate documents um that will eventually be incorporated into one Okay Um but my thought is to keep them separated so
they don't start overlapping people will start overlapping items within them So this is only for the roads So anything that people drive on Okay This covers This is for the roads What are the other two just for context One for drainage and then there'll be one for uh trail
equestrian trails and greenways multi-use trails Rich I think we addressed this last time but like some of these things you know of course I'm going to go right to my road which is C road is not 22 feet Like it's not I mean it's already got pavement on it and then
it's not to these standards Well that's just like for future stuff So I don't understand So basically and there's there is actually a a part in here on page 15 is that you know the roads that are in service right now are the roads that are in service Um I mean I have a
grand vision of what I would like your road for example is a perfect example of you know I have a grand vision of what I'd like to see Um whether that'll ever happen or not is a different story because it is a little over the top But um that's my plan too Well you know and
just just to verbalize it you know my vision is for like for North Sea for example You know Norse Yeah is it's that's Yeah it's very narrow The poles are in the way Everything else on I don't want to beat a dead horse and keep bugging you every time either because it's it's already there I mean that's
what I'm I guess that's what I'm getting at We're kind of stuck with it So this is for future right Okay So everything that's there now is there but this will this will be the guidance document that will for any future projects any future roads any you know development anything
that comes you know forward from the point where this gets adopted forward Okay Okay That's I just want to make sure that we're on the same page there because and then also as we rebuild roads So like for example if we do get to be able to do stuff with Sea Road we would use these guidelines in order to
rebuild that road accordingly if we ever get to that Well I also think it's really important to say why we need a rural roadway standard and that is because we are not at FOT standard and we and we do not intend to be at FOT
standard No I know You Oh I know you know that But since you know the for the record why we're doing this this is being done to make sure that we memorialize what we can do um and what we will do so that nobody could say that
we didn't follow a standard because if we're measured against FDOT right now as a standard we never meet it But if we set our own standards and we at least stay consistent with our own standards because we have a rural character and we
want to preserve it but we also want to be as safe as we can then where they point to is are you following your own standard And that's what we want to make sure that we get this right Right And you know I think we all agree that you know there's definitely some issues but
you know like I said the road is there now there's not a whole lot we can do But moving forward if if FKL came and took all the polls down for some we'd love that But then we have a guideline that says this is how we're going to make it look Yeah And obviously at this point because
Seo's underground it would be AT&T and Comcast would have to take that and they they're not going and they're not going to do anything unless you force it the the FPNL supervisor had like had this whole big thing with them and they they pretty much just gave them for lack of a
better word to the other providers and that's yeah they were we just get lucky once in a while and someone hits one there's a couple of things in here though Richard that we have not had before that I think are really good things and should be pointed out and I
think that if you look at page 13 we talk a little bit about equestrian and trails and paths And that's what maybe Richard you could talk about with respect to this map um that's on the table I'll be Vanna White if you want me to I'll go hold it up for everyone Is
there a way we can project it No we can't project the map so we can see it from I do not have an electronic portion That's fine Um how is this printed Who who printed this We don't do we have Yeah we did Are we able to put this on
the website I mean how do we distribute this We can take pictures Email me one Okay Wonderful If you can email it to town manager can we get it up on the screen Did you hold it up Sure
Do you have it Is it good You got sticker out Don't Did I miss it I got it Okay Okay But for your viewing pleasure while we're getting it up on the screen
Richard do you remember the map What this map shows is where we have road maps road trails um and where we want trails versus where people use the trails versus where we don't have a
usable trail So um I know Richard knows them off the top of his head Um yeah the green ones are essentially trails that we current that are already currently in existence and currently used Um including the ones we did as part of the 2024 paving project The
um obviously the paint we the the idea the objective will be to eventually connect the entire town Um that undertaking will take some time because you' obvious there's a lot number of easements you'd have to get a lot of stuff that would have to go into it Um
can we don't have it yet Can I ask a question The green on road that's inside the park right That's not inside the town Um because E-Oro is not a trail road and North Road Yeah it would have to be inside the park Okay So
that's a little they needed clarification for that because there's no trails on E- Road right It would be on the other side or North Road for that It's on the other side of the So
And okay so okay go finish your beach and then I'll ask my questions Sorry Um yeah so and then the red you see on there are areas that you know we don't have there's no usable trail at this time For example you can see team road between collecting canal and u okachi
boulevard You know we don't even have enough room to mow the grass So we definitely don't have enough room for horses Um somebody somebody has a gate too across I don't know if there's a few properties like that And there's actually um a couple I've had discussions with on
B road I believe it is that have said that D road Yeah Well no Well B also um that they have said that they don't want you know the the agreement the maintenance agreement that they got entered into with the water control district um specifically stated that they did not want their easement used
for recreational use And that's the agreement at the time that the water control district and and um the owner made And so we can't just force them to open up the horses You know they don't it's it's a nail and nursery And I mean technically if we wanted to we could go
over there and tell them well no you've got okay you got to put a fence all the way across it But that would defeat the purpose of the e because we have a maintenance ement so we can access it to mow the grass because that was the intent of all the maintenance ements in the first place So we'd have extra real estate to be able to get in there safely and maintain the canal banks Is there
many of those Richard There's enough that it cuts the it bisects the town There's probably I would say there's probably at least one on each road I know there's a couple of them on the A Um but because of where they're at it's
not that big of a deal Um the one on E- Road I thought it was significant because it's it's a large area to ride a horse and they have a huge gate across It's a nursery It's commercial nursery and we had that on as well on C- Road I won't name the name but they took it down and made we can write in there This
was you know it's been down about four years And there's and we're still actually u assessing all the entire town because we're doing a a master assessment of the whole town in regards to literally
everything swaila drainage road conditions you know repairs things that need to be removed what have you for the whole town Um so we don't have to keep going back out over and over and over and over again Yeah We had talked a little bit about like doing one letter road you know at a time because it's
it's you know it's a daunting task all this at once Yeah And and it's and it's difficult because it just takes one owner to say no and then the whole project is you know there's not much you can do If somebody says no and you can't
physically access the property you can't tell them Tough Um I had that discussion with one of the council members Um she had made the comment that you know there used to be a horse trail through here and now the guy put a fence up It's like well yeah because that's his yard You know for 20 years that yard was vacant
And so people were trespassing cutting through this guy's yard with their horses Now somebody's bought the property built a house has this family living there and he doesn't want people running through Has that been has that like particular issue been assessed by the town attorney um and maybe a land
use attorney for you know 20 years of use open and obvious Has anybody that still private property It's well but there's certain provisions in the law that you can take private property if it's like like adverse possession that type of idea I'm not
saying that's what it is but maybe maybe in that particular instance I don't and I don't know how long it's been Somebody should have um just at least talked with the town attorney about a direction on is this can he do this after 20 years Well I mean I'm sure I personally have
not and I would have to get with Brandon and see if anybody knows It might be water under the bridge at this point Yeah but I'm pretty confident the guy's you know not gonna Yeah sometimes if you just talk to them you know Oh we we suggested we we actually had to get a temporary ement out of him
leaving his yard sideyard as a as a road when we were replacing the co a culbert bridge Okay So you have addressed you know we've talked about and he says only during the construction and once it's done I'm closing the gates I don't want people Okay going on my property because he's got you know boat swap buggies all
the other normal toys that people have and he doesn't want people on his property that can access it and he's not going to put a fence all the way down the side of this Well this we addressed this at some point years ago when we bought the the trail from Southern Land and Cattle or whatever this lumber and
something and southern states land That's it They um there was there was talk about putting a fence across each property that we had to that the town would do it right now I don't know I don't know if that's still an option Maybe it would be an option for these
particular defiant people However if you give one guy a fence you know they're all going to want one Exactly I was just like um like one of the things I had talked you know I've talked about this many times at council meetings and other people is that you know the way the county does things is they don't ask for
easements they just buy the right you know they just read we need 20 ft here's a check it's ours now you know so there's no fighting over well you can't build or somebody else comes in says well I own that property you know you can't do whatever it is you're doing on there if you buy the property do Um but
you know same thing if you do that for one every you're not gonna get another easement this time again So yeah that's bad Gonna give you something if you're willing to pay for it Well I would like to have some questions and a statement
That's okay So item five I guess roadway design Yes Um the necessary tree preservation How are we enforcing that because there's everything's being clear and I know this is for roadways
but the the tree canopy the removal of 100 year old trees for property purposes is just come it's it's getting disgusting Are you putting it on private property Yeah but I'm Yes I am But and I'm hoping that the town preserves the
trees instead of let me just take this one out and plant a palm tree So I wanted to know like how strict are you all on that Well on people's private property and especially if they have an ang exemption they can clear cut the property No I'm talking about in the this for the roads if it's I mean
unfortunately if it's interfering with the drainage the tree it's got we has to be removed So that's what happens public because public safety and uh alleviating flood conditions overrule you know weighs out
over Australian pine that's shouldn't be that's non-native but I'm talking about the necessary tree preservation I just want to know how if it doesn't serious Yeah Yeah if it doesn't need to be removed we don't remove If you look at all the projects we've done thus far you know unless it like right smack in the middle of the swale to where there's no
way to go around it with you know with the ditches and stuff like that like like like the high park I mean I went down there and everything's just mowed down Yeah they were all Australian pines They were Australian pines Okay Like 95% There were Now I will say there were a few trees your pants are going to catch
on fire There were a few natives that were removed and a lot of it was because when we removed the Australian pines the native tree went with it Okay Yeah Because they were like either attached to each other or um what's going to be replaced with oaks probably Okay We're actually
we have a landscape architect who's currently uh doing a drawing which hopefully will be done tomorrow or Monday And essentially that's what we're gonna basically do what they did with the first half of Hide Park where they've got Oakdale Yes And we're going to do the do the whole pond just the pond side not the property the house
side but the pond side and puts um oaks all the way around the pond And how are they going to be like five foot or Oh they're going to start as babies So ceiled to especially especially in a pond next to a pond those things once they hit water they'll go there Okay And
then the of course and that's going to be beautiful Yeah that was a beautiful road um the equestrian trails or paths It says riders have the right of way on all local streets where equestrian trails are not presently available or accessible which is awesome
However nobody knows that Um signs Yeah we're waiting for signs But I think we need to go beyond signs and and and I have a comment about the signs too I would like to maybe do a mailing somehow or we need to
give public notice out there because we ride collectively together and we are getting mowed down Yeah So I know we've already I've stood well when you're I think he's supposed to be on this committee Uh Brian McNeel I stood in front of his house once with my Explorer
on the side of the road with all the lights on standing there going over something with him and somebody really flew right past me and I had the guy telling me you know how nice I was and stuff when I told him to slow down Yeah That there's something has to really be done My son almost got plowed in his little
queso pulling out by those dump trucks Yeah And I think a lot of it I don't think it's our residents I think it's people coming here from outside I always say that they just never they don't know They're Maybe we need police enfor they never saw horses They don't know what they're dealing with I'm just saying in general speeding but especially with the
horses they need like because the rightway signs aren't I mean there's one I think on that I saw There's one on Folsam There's they're on a lot of a lot of the roads and they're usually right off Okachobee right Is where they're at And we have more on order We're just waiting for them to show up Right What
those light up things like they say lock your vehicle Oh the key Oh the uh variable message ports marquee or that's like you don't think that would be a good idea Yeah Coming into the town from both ends you know maybe you know they had lock your
vehicle sometimes Sometimes it says buckle up or something right And we can approach red We're actually looking we're actually looking at purchasing too right now I I thought I heard not specifically for that purpose But you can program it Frank And maybe Red Barn
can put something up on their their signs and a school Well the school probably wants to stick with school stuff Um okay Then in landscaping healthy viable trees should be saved whenever possible Let's hope we're enforcing that too That's page 14
Yeah like I said if it's not you know not going to interfere with it but I mean we can And can you add um equestrian crossing signs to some of these trail crossings I don't know if you can put that in this document this
plan that whenever a new road I don't know if there's going to be new roads or not but whenever there's a new road that's developed um where it intersects with an equestrian trail that there shall be an equestrian or horse crossing sign um at that intersection
particularly like where we go over that bridge even you know there should be one there There should be something there There's nothing there We're on North Road or Seth Road I mean we're trying to get across that bridge And I mean nobody knows you know they just don't even know that we're they don't know what we're
doing because there's nothing that indicates you know they just think we're riding a horse and stopping there but we're really just trying to get across which is another question I have Isn't Fro supposed to be a designated horse trail from here all the way to the preserve Because on the map it's not
I'll have to look at that to see why It shows pink said would like to see but green trail ends at Okchobee Yeah it should be green all the way up I'll find out why it's done Okay And if not we have to update the map then And so at Okachobee there should be a horse crossing sign like yesterday as well
since that's been Yeah we have that's the other thing that's on this year's budget is to put few of those in as well Do we know when Because it's I mean season's almost over Hopefully we can get it for next season Yeah Oh yeah No it'll be done before the end of the fiscal year Okay And and that's
independent of this grant this this uh well that's one of the reasons why we're not rushing to do it because if we if we're going to get a grant that's going to pay for it then because if we install it and then we get a grant to pay for them they're not going to pay for the ones we've already installed We'll give you money back They will give you your money back So if we spend the I'm sure
you can find somewhere else to put it though because we spend the well that's the thing is the grant has to be if the grant is specifically to put sign you can't say well never mind I want to put it and the town then take up the existing sign and remove it and put it somewhere else Well you're just talking about the ones going up and down No right Yeah we're
not talking about that We're talking about Well yeah No I'm talking about that I just want a sign there so that you can connect FRO across regard If it's in the grant great Because you know or if it's the town like however it gets done we can and then and then if it's
the grant then fine Then the town can just take up their sign and put it somewhere else right That that's possible Possible Okay But this this whole crossing thing like you've been to watch the meeting on that You were I was there Yes Is it pretty involved It's a lot more involved than I thought Maybe I
had not expected the texture of the road to be changed and I mean it was quite a bit I think they needed that for submission They need to have like everything like proposed It just seemed a little involved Yes Okay Then item six um section number four service level
three Mhm Um these are cutth through roads that connect to level one either a level one or level two service road The ones that are still dirt road are to be graded
monthly or weekly They are graded they so the main the level one roads are graded twice a week Mhm The level basically two through four roads are graded at least twice or we try to grade
them at least twice a month Okay Now I'm partial to this because I'm on either I guess they're calling it lower north road or I call it south north road Um between ENF which is the only way we can get to the trails on ENF So if that ever
gets paved we're going to have nowhere to ride then because the trails on the other side of the park So um what is and it's really really narrow So they're saying that this should have 18 feet with a I don't even think
it's that with a preferred width of 24 ft Right Well that's So in our capital improvement plan we have for next year um we had budget about half a million dollars for the preparation to pave upper and lower north roads M that
includes obtaining the easements doing all the preparation you know basically doing what we did similar to E Citrus and and Grover where we have the trail on the off the side What happens if you don't get the easements That's a whole another question we have to answer down the road So I mean well
I'm concerned because my house is close to the road and I don't want cars They already fly by being a dirt road Um and there's absolutely no way they can make that a two-lane road unless they take half of my front yard 20 feet is gonna is pretty significant which they tried to get that service
ement and it would bring it like we wouldn't be able to park our cars in the driveway Aren't those five acre parcels No I'm on two and a half or two It was five at one time but prior
the corner is north He's got the three I got the two Okay Yeah So that would bring the road like right up to my front door Yeah I mean that's just one of I I don't know We have to we have to we have not looked into exactly how we would have to do that And what is this When is
this uh supposed to be for the FY26 budget which would be next budget year So it wouldn't happen until 2016 We find out about it in about September October next year because we don't this year we talk about it Right But you said 27 27 26 The idea is to get it all ready
in 26 and then pave it in 27 Oh yeah the 27th but they they plan it all out in 25 September October 25 Then it goes So that's what the the FY 26 is to do the planning So that's when we would start the planning once we have the budget And we would start with upper north first
and do that between A and E first Okay Now that you brought up U upper upper north what happened to that trail There's supposed to be a trail all the way from A to the N newest colony into what That's not on the map either It's still it's pink because we have to make Well so there's
an easement up there There's easements for that It's just there's sections of it that need to be fixed Is that because the rock that was put down No north of the actual that road surface is there's an ement north of that road surface which is where the trail is
supposed to be I mean we can still ride it but it's not covers that aren't wide enough And so like uh around like for example at [Music] um Global on either side of that subdivision of Global there's
um canals that run up the sides And so the the culverts they put over 40th essentially is the width of the road It's 20 ft So what we have to do is to make that a viable trail so you're actually riding on the side of the road
is replace both of those culberts with 40 foot long culberts so that way and remove all the the the overgrowth all the Brazilian peppers and hollings and everything else and Okay And then the north road um at G it's red around G
East and 25th Street Is that Yeah because you can't get is that's a um well on Falsome there's it's all there's nothing the canal the canal bank is on the other side and you can't get through Madison Green But aren't they building a
bridge to get in Don't you guys service that other side of the canal Mhm And they're putting a bridge over there at Fulsum right There's gonna be a talking there's gonna be a f a fence over to keep people from going across So so we don't have people coming from Madison Green on the side We don't we can't make that like put a gate like they have at
the preserve and make that a horse trailable So we can go all the way around or put you still can't get you still can't get through Madison Green We could on the You can go all the way down and then we have a gate Madison Green is a gate that that blocks at the park
on our side Not by the bamboo We can get all the way through I believe there's a gate with a lock I had to unlock it I think you're I think he's he's saying when you're going south next to the golf course Is that what you're saying Golf course towards Okchobee There's no way
to get back This piece right here Right That's what I'm talking about So at the dog park you know where the dog park is It's on the north side It's only on the canal We can ride down by the natural area So we could ride all the way to that Yeah there's a gate right here There's a gate at that corner Yeah right If you make right when you make
that there is but you can get through it I don't think it's locked It's locked It is They keep it locked That's straight all the way down Who's they Madison Green And that's is that their You don't want people Well is that their property on behind the canal bank part is not but
Okay Lally owned But why so why are they keeping it locked though if the gate is because they don't want people on dirt bikes riding and tearing up their golf course I Well yes I understand that But where the gate is physically located it's not their property As I understand from what you're saying and I'm not
going to hold you to that but so so why are they able to lock that gate that's on their property If they want to prevent people from going on their property they should maybe put up a fence throughout the entire like next to the whole golf course That's just what I'm trying to get at So why are they locking a gate that's not their property
I think if they put a fence up on their property line then we wouldn't be able to service the canal But you said it's 10 feet right Yeah Of our prop of the town So yeah Can we access that Because our horse trails are only six feet according to the one on
Gruber So if we have 12 feet well he's talking about I think maintaining How much How much room do you need to like service the only 12 ft of I don't I'd have to have a surveyor out there So I'm just so I just want to know why why the gate is locked on It's been locked since I started here It's been locked before
that lock that's on there I think actually belongs to the sheriff's office Right But I what she's saying is they're locking us out of our own property That's correct Essentially So I'm just questioning that just to think about that you know because just because it's been done doesn't mean it should continue to be done I think there's a lock on the other side too on the south
side And then that north trail all the way across that's and then and then there's a there's a fence because that the reason why we're building this over here is in order for us to get up here we have to go through the school That's the only
way we can get up that canal bank is we have to go through the school and if the school locks the gate our person is stuck They can't get out They physically can't get out of the property Well is there something that we could look into to see if they could put a gate like they do have at the preserve with a
combination so of course people can access that I can if it was a connector trail I can look into it I mean we're desperate to find safe places to ride away from traffic you know So so I think the questions I guess that we're bringing up on this meeting
for the next meeting or for the next committee would be why is that gate maintaining to be locked Do we need to lock it if that's our gate and our on our property I understand Madison Green wants to keep people out But I mean if we want to ride our horse there then why
are we prohibited from doing so And then Darcy's question too about the other gate Why do we need to lock why are we locking that gate If we're building if you guys are building the bridge building the gate maintaining the property why are you locking the residents from using that that easement
that strip That's the only I that's just it Well because there's I think because there's a park here which does not allow horses Um at Okachchobee which is basically where that's going Um it's on Okachobee I thought it was a Yeah it's behind the school There's a
park behind the school There's a park right But I don't think that we would ride in the park I think we would ride along the canal Most most people but yeah maybe they wouldn't follow that That's the problem That's I guarantee you that's why Madison Green wants that gate locked is to keep you
know because can you imagine what a horse does with a golf course or even or dirt bike I think we can't ride the horses would break their legs if they hit a hole so only a would ride their horse on a golf course Um sorry Shortage of those I don't think so Let
look let Madison Green maybe you know have that argument you know if that if that's I don't know what their position I think their biggest problem also is like you know you got the dirt bikes you've got all the they have a number of issues and like like they just put up on like Indian trails or not the Indian
trails but Palm Beach County arm on their property put up um over here just put up another barrier to stop people from going through with the dirt bikes and everything else So the kids are still getting in this park and tearing it up Right I thought it was
going here Pull some hair and then 20 Isn't the bridge going there Right So in essence we could ride that whole right Our ement could go all the way to the bridge You could basically stay in the natural area ride the easement until
the new bridge that's built and then ride out along the the road someday Jesus it's long That's what I'm saying It's not that long It's right there right So in essence if that gate were to
be open we could ride that whole I mean it's just we're like I said we're desperate trying to find Oh I know I get it Trust me I get it I just don't I mean and then golf carts and everything else I know horses have enough problems with cars Well I mean that argument then could be
the same for any of the horse the existing trails that are you know off-road and all that So it's the same thing We're just trying to open up the more trails Yeah So I'm looking at this we really have nowhere to ride that is a usable trail that connects There's nowhere to connect to anything It's all Oh we're riding out the road Yeah It's
all um And now they're now they're paved I mean when they weren't paved it was a non-issue because now we now we have to do a hot asphalt on bell shoes and that's a whole that can cause a whole other problem as it goes So the only bonafide trail that we have north to
south is a and that's on the canal side Uh yes I went down there today by the way There's a guy there's actually somebody out there with a horse I was glad Oh there's a guy that who goes with the carts Yeah Here up to like here Yes
We drive all the way down to Chobee through the church church property because they have some trails in there that they let us and then over So our objective is to connect So yeah
absolutely Based on this map based on what you know what is being improved that is because there's another gate down here somewhere too see that that's what we want to hear because then we could ride all the way down there with the other if the other gates open right So I think I think maybe for the next
meeting the agenda item because we don't have all the information today There's a gate Those two those gates why are they locked Who's like whose property are those Why are they locked Who has the authority to lock them I'm just thinking of questions Yeah that's how currently
if we want to mow this area this area here we want to mow this we have to go through the school's parking lot to their back gate open their back gate come down here and then go through There's a side gate that goes into here because we can't get down here because of the guard rail And I think isn't there a park here
right now Yes Well that's East That's a discussion item too South of East Citrus That's here And we are right here Yes This this isn't a child Did you I have not We have not discussed it yet
The problem is it's not cut back C road and the fact that you can't get to Yes You know we they're going to put these nice crossings at B road and D road when the trail is at C road I at least talk about them to see what
progress we can make Well the idea is that eventually there'll be one at every six meter hard to look at it at a map Based on this map right now what are we working on this month access
Because remember right now we're working on Right now we're working on a drainage project April the only trails that we were doing was East Citrus Brewer and 161st I might not be able to make the only three trails and those are already done So
what do you advise I mean what are we working on here then There's no if there's nothing foresight in providing us with trails then what is the whole point of this committee other than roads Because I'm on the horse trails right
So well let's make let's make progress on the horse trails I think one of them now that I'm I'm starting to key in on it are those gates Mhm So let's for the next meeting let's talk about if you know more or somebody else maybe knows information about why are we closing
those gates to horses then and I understand why Madison Green the Madison Green one and what other gate after So it's the Madison Green one that connects from the Royal Palm Beach Natural Area to I don't want to say the golf course Okay So that location and then there's
another one I don't know the other ones You mentioned another one Yeah there's another one by this by down here by the golf course by what is that What is that location Just it's south of uh Okachary Boulevard on Pulson Okay so that's the other one So it would be nice to be able to ride actually two gates because I think that's So there's two gates It's
the same thing They don't want the property owners don't want and I don't know what deals were worked out I mean that's the problem is that a lot of time like there's a whole issue over here on on parts of this where we you know we're part of this easement was is being used by us but it's actually
part of Madison Green So okay have to go look at all that may be why that gate is there Is that going to require like a title search or some attorney to review the the historical easements and recordings of probably maybe I'll show
um but no I know there's I just I know because of some of the stuff I've read I don't I don't remember the specific spots but I know over here somewhere in Madison Green there was a um a dispute about the property lines and where the actual easement is So we may actually be using a property that's not even ours to
make maintain our property that's not yours Right Well we just can we just mow the canal bank As a matter of fact actually through here through here and through here actually down here as well We all we mow is the actual canal bank We don't mow the top of the canal Madison Green mows that Oh interesting
Okay So they maintain the top of the canal um bank and we actually just mow the actual bank into the water All right So Richard what hope can we have as far as what what other than Gruber I mean what are what are we working on for
Because we've how how many years have we been waiting 39 for me Everything is chipped away and chipped away and chipped away and we still I've been here 22 years and we still don't have trails We always just rode the roads and called those trails that and now that not only dangerous but it's unhealthy as I
explained with horses that have shoes and if you won't walk on it barefoot because it's so hot Just imagine having metal shoes on trying to walk down that So I mean we can't even go from one trail to the other because they're on the other side of the canal I wholeheartedly agree What is Can
somebody update me on what's going on with that polo place Can you Can I ride by there I was planning on Now this is a killer for you I trailer my horse down from Sea Road to North Road and Park so I can ride along that And the last time I did it I couldn't because there was so
many rocks everywhere by that holo farm where the where the fill was coming from Still there I don't know I haven't been up there in a while No no I was going to drive there today but I ran I know We sent code enforcement up there because they decided to stick a straw in our pond and start using pumps to pump the
waters from our canals into their pond which I'm like "Yeah no you're not allowed to do that." So so that was Monday we found out out about that I haven't been up there since Okay No no I'm just So my question was posed What What should we be working on What do we have to look forward to Why are we here
if all you working on right now is drainage Because we can ask for everything and doesn't seem like we're going to get much Part a number of the issues in this town in general is there's not enough revenue there's not enough employees
um and we have to pick priorities and um because honestly council sets the priorities The council has told us that they want a road and collecting canal paved They want a route railroad and collecting canal um you know all fixed and all beautified and everything else They want the gap
roads paved and you know they want um that's pretty much the the priorities we set and a few of the culberts replaced So that's their pri that's their priorities We they set the priorities follow the law I understand So it's safe to say that nothing is going to be accomplished this
this while we sit here today Not specifically for our questioning trails I know we are taking a lot of time away from work families to sit up here and false hopes I understand some place else is supposed to be at right now So so I feel like we're just beating our
headache up against the wall trying to do the same thing that we've been doing for 20 plus years Is this something we need to bring to our council people Yeah But again I don't know Like even the mayor wants her priorities equestrian trails and I literally ask her I'm like
"Where are we supposed to get the money?" Mhm Yeah We don't own the property where you want to put these trails Um we can't even there's certain roads we can't even maintain the canals because we don't own the property on the other side of the canal and our equipment we currently have won't mow the do something assemble to mow the
grass because we don't have you know booms that are long enough to reach to the other side from the roadside Um so you know and then like I said we're limited We have nine people in public works to take care of the eighth largest
municipality in Palm Beach County Um and you know the the the projects that we have stacked up and I have a list Oh I'm sure you do I'm not trying to add your list but we are totally not coming here like to attack Yeah we're not But where we're at you're the only person who's here that we can ask questions so we're
posing the question to you But I'm frustrated because that's the map Look at that map It's Can you email that to the to the committee as well Pretty sad Like this like this trail like this trail right here is is is something we started because
tornado came through tore up all the trees on Hide Park We removed all the exotics and then when we cleared the canal we're like "Wow I wonder if we can make this into a horse trail to connect Hide Park to We excited for that actually I'm really looking forward to that." Yeah So I mean and that was done
all by yours truly and and Craig So that's that's some progress then that's we are trying that and the the theory is is as we because I mean let's admit it all of our horse trails are on canal banks So in theory what we're doing is
as we are moving forward and making these wholesale drainage repairs you know if you remember hide park between hide park and f road you couldn't even walk down I couldn't walk like when we first started that project you couldn't even walk down there let alone let alone
go down it's beautiful and now we've cleared it all out we've got it all surveyed so we know exactly where everything is and um we're actually our guys are cutting starting to cut the canal or the ditch part of it and actually hopefully the next couple of weeks we'll might be done with that project and you'll actually be able to
start using it for you know to ride from a point A to point B And how many miles is that Oh it's not that it's in a trailer there to to do that That's Well you would have to bring the trailer I trailer over here to
um which doesn't have a name by the way but over there Washington Park Is that what it's called And that's one of the items on the agenda Oh yeah I don't think Gtown Center Well that's on the agenda It's on the additions agenda about let's make that a
horse an equestrian park So there were three items that Miss Bruce provided for us We were um during the additions and deletions um and modification section She was going to add those three items Yes We just couldn't add them until we had a consensus from the board to add those items So if you guys want to hear
those items tonight or have them discussed we can certainly add those Thank you Yes One more question and then um where's the bottom left Bottom left hand corner here So I guess we'll do that after we wrap up the rules Right there Okay So this is
there Right here Okay So Richard on that can I just ask this question How what is the status on switching parcels so we lose those oak trees Remember they approved it Approved
it It's already done What Remember I told you where I ride and it's all shady What in the hotel They're for a hotel They just gave away our beautiful shade So that's over here Have a seat Yeah that would be
So you got tangerine that comes down and comes up and goes over Um the hotel now is going to go here instead of back here Where where it's going to go now is all the shade in the whole rails Why did they move that
I didn't You need to Well yeah they Well they came in when they did their site approval to get rid of the ALF and um they requested it be moved and council approved it Okay Okay And then what I was trying to get at of course you asked about that there's a canal because you at the
college north of the college there's the canal there There's a fence gate there Yeah we're working on getting that removed So that could be a perspective trailer as well Yes So that would connect here some form of fashion Yeah And we were actually talking
to about the possibility of putting something across here Maybe possibly I don't know And based on the conversation that you all have with Richard um if you'd like to bring back some formal or even tonight discuss some formal recommendations for us to bring back at the next meeting so Richard has clear
direction as to what you guys want him to look into Um we're more than happy to do that But you know with the motion made a form of recommendations when they all do this already February January or February one of
those That's already in the works That canal on the north side of the college Yes Well the Yeah the well the canal collecting canal is here and the and the alleyways here or the Yes that's what the blue line is There's a gate here right now right Um so we're we're
currently Yeah we're working on that And then somebody actually made a suggestion that we make a a horse path over a canal so you can get to the west side of the canal from B road right without having to go all the way to Southern Boulevard to cross That's awesome But that is another one I mean that to do that is
going to cost $130,000 Or just open the gate right back Yeah But no I'm saying you can't unless you're going to jump over the canal Yeah You can't get to the west side of the canal You could go to southern right Well yeah if you wanted to That's why I'm saying the idea would have been to
try to go across collecting canal across a road on the south side So that with a small you know literally you know 10 foot wide you know footpath just to get over to the other side of that canal That's something that has been discussed but again I mean like I said to do that it will probably run about 140 grand
Thank you Those are all the questions I Okay So as it relates Sorry anybody else have any questions before we No I think this was item one of the items that I wanted to add to the agenda which was the trails map So all that discussion might have taken care of one of the items Okay So um I guess we'll just uh
backtrack a little bit I do apologize for being late I had a family emergency uh to take care of Did you guys approve the meeting minutes Yeah we Okay Okay Gotcha All the way through down to um item one Okay All righty And then the
we didn't get to the additions to the agenda Miss Bruce would you like to Well we we were on the rural road improvement standards and I think we were going to table that because um Darcy mentioned that you want to talk with your council member Um I cannot table that now I he's
answered all my questions Okay Okay So so would we move to sub to submit it to the council Is that the next step Yeah Or just bring your you know your questions thoughts or otherwise to your council member Um and just let them know your thoughts Like I said this has been
given to them twice now Yeah I'll do that I'll talk with mine and I told her my reservations and my concerns Yeah The idea is to create a this road standard a drainage standard and a multi-use pathway greenway trail standard or at
least update the one from 2009 In 2009 using best management practices that are used today because obviously things have changed since 2009 Um and then eventually put those all those documents together to create an engineering manual
for the town that would incorporate everything into one book Okay So to finish with this because I know we've been trying to do this um can we just move to accept upon discussion with our prospective council person or that's totally fine unless you have specific
recommendations that you want to include it formally then I mean I did I think I want to specify that the trees need to be that needs to be a that's a priority priority Yeah I mean not just oh if it's in the way but I mean we should be proud
of them And you can't replace a 100 year old tree you know walk that thing they traded Um yeah I'm going to Okay And then you know the signs we really need to get these trail signs up Yeah Right So and
that's perfect for you Richard You're good with that That's perfect for you Yeah Okay All righty So by making that motion anybody have anything to add to seconding Not since I was in my sorority Did we do
this whole formal Robert rules of order So all in favor I I that passes unanimously three to zero Um and now do you guys want to do the additions uh to the agenda Okay At this time we'll have deletions um and delete additions
deletions and modifications to the agenda Bruce yes The first addition was um to know the status of the the trail map the comprehensive trail map Um that's been presented discussed Um I think that there are a few um action
items that we've discussed that I'll just summarize and please add if I don't uh hit them all I think at this time you should make a we could make a clear and concise what we want what we want to present to Richard as Sammy
suggested Okay Like so so questions like right like the the gates my issue um the gates I want to know why are the gates that are on our easements are locked why we have to maintain them as locked um and the possibility to open them and we
can know all of that um we can discuss that later you had a few one thing I had suggested requested I mean it might be a long shot but behind the hospital They have that next to Vincramos Vincor Ramos
however you pronounce it They have that drainage area which could be a really nice park Um if we could we probably can't annex it because I know that costs money but is there a way that we could maybe lease it from them for a dollar a year or something like that that we could look into to buy make to make it
into not just a trails park but a park for everyone Yeah I mean we could talk we could certainly talk to them about it I don't know what I know it's not it's sort of in the water control district but it's not it's in the water control district by resolution like they there's a agreement So um can you just point to
that on the map so we can it's my understanding that Royal Palm Beach controls that well no it's uninorporated Okay Good to know So because it borders us and it's right next door to Vincent Ramos if we could discuss maybe have the
council look into it or have the town look into what it would take for us to have access to that Do we need to maintain it Can we get you know lawyers to look at it and draft up a contract where we pay them a dollar we maintain it we accept liability whatever it may be because that would be we need more
information about that addition to the town I know I've personally been back here where this pond is It's not very wide We've from the fence to the to the canal bank is not a break But we it's ridable I mean we've ridden in there If it was cleared paths were cleared But it would
I mean even trail walking trail hiking I kind of like the preserve the county preserve I'm here We could certainly talk to them I'll bring it up to um Francine to see what you know she might have some insight that she could shed on that as well Maybe they have talked to them in the past about it I don't know I
know the hospital's about to go underdo a major addition over on this that vacant lot that they own They're about to do a major addition to the hospital because they just came in for a uh variance Right They did that on the east side though right West on the west side right behind Everlates Equipment Oh okay
That property They own that property all the way back to Ramos I don't think that'll affect where I'm talking I don't know how you get to it You can get to it off of um what's the street in front of Oh Six Court Yeah Yeah we can certainly ask because there there was a hole Okay
So I'm I'm so that would be another there was a hole in the fence and not knowing at the time we rode through there and I think the kids have beenos were sneaking in there too and trail riding but whatever it's you said your third was well no so
that's the second item I think that we want to maintain to make sure that we look into right were there any others on Oh yeah that's another um so another item that I was going to add Actually the two we'll I guess we'll just keep
them all under the trails Sure Um another one was the Lockachi Groves Equestri Lockachi Groves Park I mentioned that uh you know part of it's not really used uh for baseball teams from what I've seen Um there's not like teams that play there Maybe a couple
occasional practices I don't know Um I was wondering if we could make that park more of an equestrian park I I believe the county or somebody else owns it but the county owns it But can we make it like a similar to like a Jim Brandon They already operate the Jim Brandon but
let's let's make that some type of equestrian either facility or at least just a first step to allow us to ride in the at the fields there with maybe some natural jumps and maybe some trailer parking as well What would be good with that also is
since we are trail riders and we don't have a lot of places to ride here I know Katie trailers all over the place Wouldn't it be great if we could schedule a trail ride everyone park at this park you know being a staging place instead of someone's private property or whatever and then we all just hey let's
go ride the trails in G We did all that here in this town So I mean it's of South Florida It sounds great How do we do that Do you know anything about this park and how how we can get approval I know it's a county park I know they are
it's difficult to get a hold of You got to get a hold of them get a permit Is that correct Well you're asking them to essentially get rid of their baseball field and turn it into a parking either Either get rid of it or just allow a different type of usage
which is a question which is horses Not allowed on it I don't know Yeah you could ride on it now But I know they got soccer fields over there and though I know the soccer fields are used Yeah I've seen a lot of people using those soccer fields Um and so I got it be nice to have like jumps like some natural
jumps for some of the adventurers that you know that might be a liability Yeah I don't know I mean I don't know I'm asking paid my taxes Yeah trust me Do I know how they they got you know everything's a liability and it always so even though Florida is
a no fault horse state and post assigned you know you know what I'm talking about Yeah So they might just use that as an well you know it's a liability for jumps Well so I mean that's the easy easy way to say oh it's it's too hard it's a liability but like what who can we talk to to try to make that happen Doesn't
have to be parks Um I can certainly reach out to them find out I think I've talked to Francine about I know we have we've discussed this before I I got to find out whether or not they actually have um reached out to him So yeah So that
that's another according to Craig this is supposed to be green too He made he made an error in in his uh coloring attempt If you look at it it's kind of partially green though But I know that there's a sign that says this is the Lock Gross Trail Yeah there there
is a the trail is continuous from the park all the way up And actually part of the F-RO um that's another thing that we're doing that I I did as part of my design on the FRO collecting canal culbert replacement that we're actually starting hopefully
in a couple of weeks Um by the way by the way that intersection is going to be closed for about a month Um but when there when it's done there's going to be a a 15-oot trail on the one side of that intersection So you can actually go from here and get to this
trail without having to walk across the actual as a road and collecting I've seen I've seen near miss accidents with horses there Oh I can imagine So we're actually if you look at the plans were in the agenda um last from last night or night before last
night um the this bridge now instead of being the 34 feet it is now it's going to be 68 feet of or something like that with a 24 foot road guard rails that are actually offset not on the canal uh itself and a 12ft path with a 5-ft
separation on um the west side of the Culbert So that way you'll be able will be able to go from here to here without having to go here to here You mean F road collect from East Citrus to um past Collecting Canal without actually having to go on the road except for crossing six court and collecting canal Well you
should be able to ride the whole Well right now that's the bottleneck right Yeah To go out onto the Have to go onto the street or through the over the ridge I saw this little girl on her phone Man she got missed by this much Oh I And that's a four-way stop too How do you
get somebody at a stop That That intersection They do That intersection That's good Because it's so narrow That intersection is like I watch cars all the time almost you know get clipped because especially with the trailers because the guy who runs this polo foot field right over here his drivers Oh
When they car the trailer and that's going to be closed You say they uh collecting canal road Yeah we do when we do that project Um and we're gonna have to obviously do notifications everything couple weeks beforehand But yeah for we the way we did it is uh we're going to allow the contractor to close the entire
intersection to do that work So that way they can tear all of it out at the same time replace everything and put it all back together without having to worry about opening this closing that doing this doing that When is this taking Oh hopefully by May May or June
I what we do to get an update on that D-Road trail but the only we have like three trails we can actually ride on One of them was on the other side of North Road and there's about I don't know 150 ft of pure rock that you can't ride over on
Dro It's on the other side of North Road by the Polo in front of the Polo Oh that guy Yeah Well I got to go talk to him I have to go talk to him anyways But yeah so that's another update He gave us update regarding Dro an update regarding D road to the rock
situation on north on the other side I don't even know where that is About up here This is 145th This is Swanks You're talking about the property west of that whole thing So what's the address I mean where's the location North and D
Yeah that's his name is Gates I think or something like that It's a polo school Yeah they tore it out there right into that whole property 67 acres They took all the trees in all of them in one weekend That was a beautiful piece of property that big lake with permits or without
initially without well the thing is is that the trees that he one he's a exempt so as a exempt you can clear you can l if you're a exempt you can literally clear cut your entire property and there's nothing the town can do about do they have to comply with zoning if you're a exempt This is what you can you can build like the only thing you have
two feet from your property line Basically the only thing you go look at the uh go look at that barn on C Go look at that barn on C and uh collecting see and collecting the there's a they have one of their D uh arenas and literally it's that far from the road
It's literally that far from the road They just built one on the road that the same thing It's like that far from the fence And I know the contractor I'm like "Dude why did you build that so close to the road?" because that's where the property owner wanted it So the this egg exemption cutting is that a town thing
or is that a county thing County county and state It's part of the Right to Farm Act That's the only the only regulation you're required to follow as an a exempt property and which is it's spelled out in Florida statute 603.5 and sad that I have that memorized
is the flood plane requirements That is the only thing you're required You don't have to comply with really comply with zoning building you as long as you're not building a habitable structure If you're building a house on an act exempt property you still have to get building permits But if you're building barns arenas everything else shelters that are
that are considered non-residential structures you only have to comply with the flood plan requirements How is a polo farm a right to farm act It's equestrian It's an equestrian exemption Interesting Right In my little lowered
expectations that I've learned after 39 years I just would like like maybe 10 feet to without rocks He actually gave us a 10 He actually gave us a 10 I think it was a 10footer I have to go look see exactly what it was but he did give us an easement north of our rideway for
that purpose So that would be that Okay So he sounds like a decent Yeah he owns a couple Nelson that did the barns but he's a he's a nice he's he's But he's a decent guy I mean every time we asked him to do something he typically does it I I know he fired the
the trucking company because they got off in my that we Yeah I don't do the speed limit Yeah we went after We called him up and says "You need to do something because you know what's going." We told him what was going on and he literally drove over there and told the trucking company to get lost
fired the trucking company So like I said he you know typically you know I think you know he's young so he doesn't know a lot of the stuff and so but he does make his you know every time we say something to him he's like "Oh I'm supposed to do that Okay no problem We'll take care of it." And he typically follows and he follows through with it
like when he started that you know they clear started clear cutting the the trees and started cleaning up the debris and they had their contractor over there start digging the pond and I'm like "No no no no no You can't do any of you can't do any site work without a site development permit You can take the trees out because you that's your right they're all nursery trees so they're not
considered native." Um and you know that's basically what he did He got it was an old uh palm nursery palm tree nursery So he got rid of all the old palm trees and he got rid of the And all that was on that property were exotic You mean like you couldn't move dirt around You could not move any dirt around till the flood plane because the flood plane requirement And actually
what was interesting about that particular property is that the property to the west of it on the north side of it there's a there was a common like one of those historical ditches you always hear Phil's talking about There was one of those historical ditches that was between that property and the three
adjacent properties and they all went all their drainage went into that same canal And that's one of the reasons why we require sight because and he had to maintain that and he actually had to fix it because there were parts of it that were washed away and so so he he did it So he actually fixed it and it's not you
know he increased the size of the pond and by far that hill that was there he sold out he cleaned it up and you know I mean it's all solded and he's putting I think he said he's putting three fields in there I think he's putting like three field
three regulation polo field like I just want to get from here but I think he's taking care of that right I just took a picture of the gravel that was in front of there So it sounds like it's being worked on that that issue on the back I'll call them or I'll go by there look at it and
see what's going on and call them and see what's going on Anything else on the trails map that we need that we I'm sure there will be but so this is should be green So then I guess an updated trails map would be and distribution somehow on
the website Yeah I can I we'll get updates on the website as well with a bunch of stuff When do you think the signs will be in the horse crossing that we are we ordered them They take about a month or so because they have to be made Of course everybody did the order in which
they were received Um and we ordered them I say we ordered them like a month ago Is this what they're going to look like Richard Don't look like the rest of them The rest of what I don't have the horse signs we have now That's just a horse Now these are going
to be the ones that right away Oh I like that Okay And then with the Florida statue on the bottom of it because that's the only way they're enforceable Perfect I like that We're also wearing golf cart signs because actually I looked at our ordinance Um right now it says golf
carts are permitted in public rideways Ordinance number blah blah blah whatever the ordinance number was I actually went and looked at the ordinance and was supposed to say that the golf carts are allowed on the rideway by licensed drivers Oh because that's how the ordinance reads They're supposed to be by licensed drivers So the kids aren't supposed to be going up and down the
road So we actually were changing all those signs so they actually meet the intent of the ordinance That's good Anything else that we want to talk And just the last thing it was also part it was like number three on my additions but we'll include it as the trail map Um how do we get to ride on horses and the
other half of the Royal Palm Beach uh natural area Right now you're only allowed to ride on horses in half of it and then the other half says no horses It's like hikers and stuff Oh that's a question Yeah At one point in time it used to be part of Royal Palm But like
my understanding was the county owned the west side which is where the trails were and then Royal Palm Beach owned the east side but when I looked last time I looked at PABA the county owns all of it now They do They own the whole thing Um I can tell you because I have worked with ARM before
Um if it was left up to them they wouldn't let horses on it at all There you go And I could go because I actually um at one point in my life I was the president of an organization that did mountain bike did the mountain bike trails at Dire Park and at Pinehurst Trail Yeah And we wanted a little strip
down Winding Waters Park which is the park just south of um Dyer Park where the ho that equestrian those paddics are and all that stuff over there on the south side of Dyer Park And they um would not let
us They're like because there's no their ordinance says no motor vehicles are allowed I'm like it's a bicycle They're like I said you allow horses at this because they've always allowed horses there and you go the only reason why they allow horses there is because that when they bought the property that was
the agreement that used a Yipulation that owned that it was a rant property that Page County Environmental Resource Management owns that allows horses Actually that's not true And and so you're saying that they're not going to allow them on this on this other property to stay to stay
on that subject This is what they told me actually that the reason is because when the horse eats grass from one side and poops it'll cause exotics to grow That is that's the technical reason they gave me is that they didn't want it's
because the horse poop will cause plants alpha Really Well if they take a plane on this side right and they walk over here This I mean I went through a lot to find this out which as you will as well if you like and if they poop over here
this exotic plants and natives and poisonous natives and all this will grow and then that's what they don't work That's what they told me I I mean I didn't just like call somebody This was many years ago So So that's a no a nogo then You're saying I mean maybe we have
a better person in charge I'm just a target giving you the information so that you know go in with that you know like Alpha you know no other part I'm all about it Let's I'm looking it up right now So then county has parks that
allow horses Um but so I mean why so my just my simple why why don't they allow horses on the other side and how do we get how do we exp extend that trail system Yeah Um I'll ask I'll ask because you know people right You know the right
people You can find what the reason they gave me was that pooping thing That's ridiculous And and I even got to stop I'm going a little further I'll get you I'll get you the other ticket for riding on the And the horse bolted on me too And I was
walking I was also Yeah Arm is an interesting group of folks over there Um I forget with your background you may be much more saying
like I said I know the count I know the county has parks like the west county the del park signature allows horses um dyer park allows horses or I think they still have horses Yeah the paddics are still there I even you know to be very honest with you you know why I
don't go there Because you drive all the way there It's like you know it's the dump It's mild And then you can ride it around a little square And they allow bicycles too So like you're going on a horse this way The mountain bike trail Exactly Well you want to get hit I used to maintain both the mountain bike trails There's one on the on the
hill itself which if you ever want to go want to go hiking somewhere go hike that trail and get your exercise That's But yeah there's one on the actual the class there's a class 3 landfill that the um that they built we built the trail on the side of and then around the perimeter except for that south section
south section when you come out of the trail on the south east corner of the park you have to ride along the pavement up the hill to the airport to the airport and then down the other side and back into the other side And it's always
been like that And that park because of uh it was interesting that specific park had um we were not allowed to bring anything in So like you go to a lot of these mountain bike trails and they use carpet to reinforce the dirt They let them bring mulch in to reinforce it We
were not allowed to do that because South Salt Waste Authority when that was the actual dump um had brought all those trees in as part of some kind of like a tree recycling program So they c the county paid to bring those trees there and plant them and they did not want any
exotics So they would not let us bring Is there anything else that we want to add to the agenda So I guess we're going to let the the the trails die Oh you're going to make a call Yes Okay No we're not going to let them die I want you to call them actually Um but is that
something for us that's on the table I just want you to know what they said to you know what to be prepared Okay Um is there anything else we need to cover or should I move to a journ Um no Unless the committee has any comments You gave us um you gave us um the needed
information for what to bring back here in the conversation I will be having discussions at our next meeting but if there's any comments by the committee members additionally Richard do you have any um only my only comment is are we moving this this meeting back to the third
Thursday Yes So the next meeting is going to be um April 24th This meeting was huh April 24th or May 24th April 24th Remember this was the rescheduled meeting for March I may not be able to be there I have
family in town that night Does it have to be Thursday Do not want to sit through this You want it on Thursdays Does it have to be on a Thursday It's the third Thursday Um that's what we have it scheduled because we want it to start to create some consistency for the board members and the staff and the residents so they
know it's on a regular basis in the event that we do like signs or something that we send out to residents I I can try to attend for a very short period of time but I will I will and if you can't attend in person we'll be happy to send you a Zoom link as long as there's a physical form present Okay In person I
know we discussed Thursdays but um would it be are you available like the 23rd I could do the 23rd Yeah My only issue Wednesday So just for this month we'll move due Wednesday It's what I said my my only days that I have issues are the
first Tuesday the first Thursday the second Monday the second Wednesday and the third the third Tuesday I'm not available on Wednesday So every day of the month Richard no I have five five days other commitments in
Wednesday I trailer to another park way far away for Samantha to get barrel where I send lessons because we don't have her So I just might have to be missed that one day I go that way or I go to and the other thing is I go out of town I'm leaving um the May 15th May
16th and I'll be back August 6th So I know so I will have to if I'm going to be app if we're going to have meetings I know that sometimes they're not over the summer but if we're going to have meetings then I'll have to appear by Zoom So I think we have them by soon Yeah that's fine As long as there's a form present physically um you guys will
be able to move the um agenda forward So all right So we're going to do April 24th Yes And you guys still would like to start at 5:00 moving forward Five o'clock Yeah Until the committee established Are you guys with that Okay Okay So our next meeting will be May
April 24th at 5 o'clock And I move to adjourn All in favor Yes Gav Thank you everyone