Okay. With this Ashley Bruce being via assume that um all of our committee members are present. So whenever you're ready, Mr. Chairman, we're ready to start. Yeah. Oh, I have to go after I get a hammer.
No, there we go. Oh, be up there at the end. I have one. Sam, are you ready to uh start recording? Yeah. Once we get official, we'll give you a gap. Oh jeez. I was just joking. Uh-huh. You asked. Great.
And just make sure your mics are in front of me speaking to them so it picks up on the audio. Are we recording? Are we live? We are live. Okay. Calling the meeting June July 17th uh roadway equestrian trails and
greenway advisory committee. So um stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and
justice. Amen. Okay. Next is uh is roll call. Frank Shyola, present. Darcy Dean Murray, present. Kitty Lakeman, present. Ashley Bruce,
present. present by Zoom. Great. Okay, Mr. Chair, I would just like the record to reflect that um staff liaison Craig Lowour, our public work superintendent, is present and Sammy Brown, town clerk assistant, is present. So noted. And you have a quorum.
Great. Okay. Uh approval of the meeting minutes. First, we have to do an approval of the agenda, Mr. Chair. Oh, sorry. Getting way ahead of myself. No worries. Do I have a motion to approve the the
agenda for tonight's meeting? Sure. I will move to approve the agenda. Second. Okay. So moved and and second. All in favor? I I All opposed. Motion passes. 4 Z.
Next is the approval of our meeting minutes. Has anybody wants to make a motion or have a Miss Bruce is eligible to vote? Just so she knows even though she's on via Zoom, right? Okay. I just didn't get a I didn't hear anything from her.
We can't hear her. Can you hear us? I can hear you guys fine. Can you hear me? Yes. So, we just wanted to confirm. Was that a yes for the approval of the agenda? Yes, approval. Thank you. Okay.
May I just ask Ashley, where are you now? Um, we are uh do you know where Katchakan in Alaska is? Yes. Maybe 400 miles 500 miles inland from there on some remote fjord in the middle of nowhere.
And you have a signal. Awesome. Yeah, we do. He probably has that thing that I will. But yet you have a nice view. We're looking at a nice view of a city which is just to deceive us. Very deceiving. Sorry about that.
Uh motion to approve the meeting minutes from our last meeting. I will move to approve. Second. Okay. All in favor of approving the meeting minutes from last meeting say I. I. I.
All oppose. Motion passes three to zero here and four with uh um with our Zoom. Okay. Any comments from the public?
We do have one public comment from Miss um Mary. Oh, you said we're doing during the agenda item. Never mind. Okay. So, we don't have anything from the public. No, sir. No public comments at this time. All right. Okay. Regular agenda. Uh
discussion regarding partnership opportunity with Seminal Ridge High School students PSA on equestrian safety. And you made it just in time. Yes. The first the second item on the agenda is discussion of the signs
accepted and tasting of the town trails. So that's Mr. Craig Lower. Mr. Chair. All right. So, we'll do that one now and then we'll do the Do we want to Which one do we want to do first? Is everybody here for the the PSA or is it Yeah. Okay, we can do that first.
Okay. So, we'll we'll do item number three first. So, which is continuing discussion regarding partnership with Cinema Ridge High School students, the PSA on equestrian safety. I I got Sammy I got on my agenda as the
first thing up. Mine's just very different. Yeah. See, mine comes first after com. All right. Mine's pretty funny. Maybe I have a different agenda. Yeah. Well, I'm just whatever they have in front of me. For the record, we like your agenda better.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, as long as you're up there, we'll just get it. Yeah, that one's got everything in it, you know. That was the old one. Yeah. But it's got the same with
right. Well, since you're up there, we'll let you guys go first. That way. I'm sure that uh so I'm Mary McNicholas and I was fortunate enough to have met both Tamson and um Reagan um at another agency's
meetings and they had done a PSA um on equestrian safety for another agency and I asked both the agency and them if they'd be interested in helping Town of Blocks Hash Groves out. I we were for the record both Trish Bar and I were on
Zoom last time when you all went to go over this, but at least Tamson showed up too last time and Reagan showed up and so you had the best of of us there. Anyway, um what we've all worked on, this is Tamson right here. Um what we've
all worked on, we're apologies that Reagan cannot make it today. Um but we had a little bit of late notice on this and we weren't sure if we were supposed to be here or not. We we literally we've worked on two different PSA drafts. One is a one
minute um PSA and another is a twominut. Now a couple of different ways we can do this. Sometimes less is best meaning you go in 15 seconds 30 second you know type things. But we decided to give you all both options so that if you'd like and I
apologize to Ashley that you know we we can see you but I don't know if you can see us but we apologize that we weren't able to send this out any earlier. Um Sammy says that he will send it out right afterwards. So, I think if we could give you both options. Sure.
Then you all could tear it up, do what you'd like and you can you can draft, you know, look at both of them because we can utilize that information and decide how we're going to go forward. Um, as far as resources and everything, I know Katie, you had graciously offered to have kids from, you know, this area
and everything. We specifically are going to have to figure out a couple of different things because we've got, like Craig was saying, we've got a North Lake closure coming up. So hopefully we'll try to get it done in the next two weeks or so, maybe. I've got to check with their schedule as well. Um, do we need a motion to receive and file so that we
have this? Yes, please. Okay. Um, I just have a a a quick question. Um, if I can be a little greedy here, can we do like a one and a two-minute one or is it just we have to pick? Uh given that the information is
slightly different on the thing, we might if we're able to probably take half of what or at least like a quarter of what is had in the one minute and then add it into the two minute then probably doing both is a possibility. Uh the only tricky thing is having to then like because if you have to film the
third because they kind this the two different drafts describes have two kind of different ideas and if they go too vastly different it would cause basically a threeminute production in a whole and that would slow things down a whole but we'll work on it
and also use it for the media they're not going to play that right the other thing is that we want to mention to you is that there might be parts of these that we can use and break out. So that's why we said it 15 minute or 15 second 30 second when we do PSAs for a lot of different things. You take
it up and you chop it up that way too. So it might be edited. It might be editable to be able to do that way. The one thing that this two minute has it has all your comments from all your committee members even the ones we received in writing. So you know we want
to make sure that you know what you said you wanted included is here. They're both both great and we'll see what we can do. Do you want to go pass them up? May we pass them to you now? Motion to hold on. A motion to receive and file. Second a motion.
You go pass it to each one. Motion passes. Okay. The first one has one minute. I think this is part two. So you'll notice I'm sorry my fingers but okay. record.
Thank you. Thank you. And I apologize. Yes. Thank you. And Ashley, I'll be sure to email these to you as well. Yeah, we apologize, Ashley. Um, no worries, guys. Thank you.
Um, since you haven't really had time, you know, she's rushing in. I had to change things to get here and stuff. Um, what I was going to suggest, and it's entirely up to you, is you can take this, hash it, and give it back to Sammy, and then Sammy can send it to me,
and we can, you know, figure out how we're going to do this. Or you can sit here and we can go over it now. Whatever, whatever is your preference? Um, what's the board preference? I think I'd rather go over it now, wouldn't you?
I I agree. because that way you can then that way we can get it you can you can get the ideas and get to work on it because we don't want to put it off another another month, you know, because you're going back to school soon, right?
So, and this is your senior year, so you're going to have a lot of stuff to do. And if you can get this knocked out before you get really involved in school, I think that would help you out also. Here we go. This is also recorded, too. It's also recorded. So, we're going to
be okay. All right. We're We're just kind of all like trying to make sure that we're helping you all and we don't but but whatever is your preference is what we're willing to do. Okay, Ashley. So, would you like to go over the one
minute first? And I think Miss Lakeman is motioning to look at your phone. Ashley. Yes. Hello. Sent you a picture of them if you want to look at it. It's kind of hard to do on a phone. I know. Tammy, did she could she hear what she
said? Can you hear us, Ashley? I sent you a picture of the papers, you know, the one minute and the two minute via Facebook Messenger. I don't know if you're able to see them and read them on your phone. It's kind of difficult. I know. Yes, I am. Thank you. I just saw it come through. I saw you look at it and I
thought it takes it a while to get from here all the way to Well, plus it has to go through the Canadian aerospace and her pulling it down right now. Boy, there's a lot of stories going on here. Fish stories. Right. Right. So, your preference. Would you like to
go over the one minute first? Um, does anybody need a pen or pencil? One minute. right on it. Why not? So, um, the one minute one, does that sound
sound like a good one to go over? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do the one minute first, then the two minute. Okay. For the record, we've already given our input, so we're waiting on you.
Just kidding. Just kidding. Um, me personally, I I mean, I'll start off. Um, I like the one minute one, and I think that you're right. I mean, I I'm greedy. would like to get both of them. But and I think that if you a lot of people don't want to sit through one minute of a commercial. So if they can
sit through a 15 or 30 second PSA, it makes more of an impact than you know a two-minute would be way too long. It'd be more for something if we wanted to put it on our town website of course or something like that. But I think you know sometimes shorter is better. Just we're just there to get the point across
and let people know that you can't speed past horses. you there's things you can do to spook horses and and riders and all that and I like to avoid honking and stuff, right? No, no, go ahead. I mean, I like them both, but I think the one minute the shorter is better. I
know that I lose whatever it is I have attention quickly. So, I imagine that there's other people like that. One thing I would like to see added in here is um a lot of people trailer their horses and driving a trailer, they don't care. or they pull out in front of you.
So whether they're empty or full, they should really show respect for that cuz our braking is a lot different than just a normal. So horses and horse trailers or people driving horse trailers. Well, to add to your point, the whole thing that we've, you know, been
consistently mentioning is that we have agricultural vehicles and that in essence you need greater distance and breaking um time. So we'll kind of put in something that way. Yeah, that's what I'm saying because
and and just um here I I like the shorter one, the one I don't know if this is the the one minute, but it's the welcome to Lockachi Groves is small, but uh yes, I like that one because it's more speaking to like the public and it's saying, "Hey, slow down. Watch out for
these horses. Go slowly." Whereas the twominute one, it it appears to be speaking more to the riders. And I don't know, as as riders, we we know, you know, we we know a lot of the safety tips and all that. We're very very careful. We wear helmets, all of that. But I like when it speaks more to the
the drivers um and the other people on the road, not the not the horseback rider. So that's just my input. We're we're happy to do one, two, have many as many as we can get done, you know, because there might be different applications
do with that. But do do you um do you think like a 15 or 30 second format is best? I you know quite frankly it depends on you know I know you all talked about media and you got to think we added everything in here on the second one that you all asked for because you had a
lot of information. Okay, we're going to go to the media. We're going to do this. We're going to do that. We're going to put it on the website. We're going to you know there were a lot of different directions and you know quite frankly it's kind of like there's different uses for all of it. So, we'll get as much as we can done and, you know, as much as we
can get both girls to, you know, buy into and, you know, we'll take your input here for sure. I just like to, you know, cuz we're going to hopefully this will be something that will be used for years to come and, you know, if it's short and sweet and people get the message. I
mean, that's what it's all about is getting the message. It's not about um we're not doing a an ad for real estate for locks a Groves here. Um it's just about getting the message across about you know safety and that you know there's safety is involved and and on
both sides of it the rider has their part and the motoring public and that's people on bicycles also and um electric bikes stuff like that they have their part to do. So if everybody works together you know we can hopefully hold
down the instances of of injuries. On that point, we could maybe could add something about the bicycling in this one minute one. I don't know where maybe with the avoid honking rubbing your because the there is a lot
of bicycle traffic especially on Okachobee and you know horses and bicycles don't always get along that well. Well, hence the whole multi-use trails. I mean it's just it it is just out
the electric vehicles. what Frank said is really critical. Okay. So, we'll let Tasmin figure out where she wants to add that if that's okay with you. You have anything else that you I'm just changing some of the verbiage. Would you mind stating what it is? Just
so we can Oh. Oh, sure. You can even email it to us. you know, it's just since since we're um compounding it, some of the sentences here I don't feel are necessary, but um I'm Yeah, give me a few. It's nothing
critical. I'm just No. Uh I'm not a pro on this. No, no, no. It's fine. And I'm a writer. Something that's like um but with research that was what was one of the things that was there's no huge egos going on over here
at all. So, believe me, I've worked with them enough to know they both are very, very flexible and fluid for this. Ashley, is there something that you anything else that you want to say about this at all? Um, no. I just I like the second one a
little bit better just because of the perspective. But I guess the more information out there, like what you said, Frank, the better. So, draft number two is the second one, Ashley, what you're talking about. We're trying. We're what Frank had asked for
is to try to do both. So, we're gonna try, but we're gonna do We're gonna It sounds like We're hearing that it's the first one. Correct. And then if you can take stuff from the first one and also take a little bit more because I know when you shoot
footage like this that you shoot maybe five or 10 minutes, maybe 20 minutes of footage and then it's condensed down into whatever your your time span is. So maybe you would be able to when you do your 15 or 30 second spot and then you'll have plenty of stuff to do a a
more a more in-depth one that that we can use, you know, in other places. Um we will defin Yeah, we'll definitely be able to we'll start with like the one minute and then we'll be able to shorten it and take the really essential important parts for the 15 and 30 second videos so that way it can get out a
little bit um easier and whatnot. Sounds good to me. So, may I say something? What it looks like is this draft one is mainly looks like for drivers. Draft two main looks like is for riders. So, maybe we just do a one minute one
minute of one of each. We're going to try We're going to come back with another We'll probably send it back to you and figure out what we can do and we'll look at their time frames and figure out how we can get it done because your time frame you're in school this next time. You can still work on
things, right? Reagan will be up in Reagan's in school. Regan's in school up in Gainesville. Yeah. Gainesville. So, you up, right? Yeah. Yes. So, so we're going to get as much as you can for both. Okay.
Is there if there are any editorial We need to have that though. Probably, you know, right now. You want it? Oh, sure. Which one are you on? Uh, the first one. Okay. I feel it's more important as a driver than a rider because the writers
I mean I think we should focus on the outside people who Yeah, we kind of know. Yeah, we're so cautious. We're scared. Okay, so the first par paragraph I like. Um the second paragraph I This is just me making it flow. Locket grow is an equestri
equestrian community. Period. Always be on the lookout for horses and horse riders especially at these signs. We don't have signs yet. So, Oh, well, slow down a second. Just one second. Always be on the lookout for horses and horse riders. Yeah. And horse riders. And then it says, especially at these signs, but we
don't have signs. Okay. We do have crossings. Yeah. You guys all brought We have Well, there's one over at Sea Road and Bud Canal.
That one drives collecting. Here's the thing. Well, I'm saying you're asking where they're at. I mean, yeah. You're you're okay instead of these sign at at signs because there's no specific signs really. There's if there's one in the whole town, it's not anywhere that people ride other than by the college
and it's only going one way and not going the other way. Okay. And and you are actually creating the signs. So we don't want to out we don't want to outdate something that we do immediately. Your next agenda item is to do signs. So I'm just trying to make it feasible.
We'll work on it. We'll work on it. Especially at signs, maybe. But but I almost feel like if there's a sign, hopefully they're driving, they might read it. Especially when you see a sign. You could put that. Especially when you see a sign. Okay.
Designated signs. However, it's just we don't have these signs. So, you're you're close to them though, aren't you, Craig? Next thing. What's that? Your next your next agenda is the signs. So you guys are have to be made right made and installed and
yeah we've been waiting he's work he's got it he's got it. So but we've been waiting years so it's not ready yet. So the next thing I um changes make sure to make eye contact with the rider and keep an eye out for hand signals they might use at crossing
sections like that. I love that part. You got it. Yeah. Make sure to make eye contact with the rider and keep an eye nothing else. Watch for their watch for their hand signals, which is wonderful because we would definitely would do that.
It may not be a polite hand signal, but anything Yeah. Okay. It's a hand signal. Yeah. So, it's communication. It's sign language. Practice defensive I haven't changed anything except um I'll just
read the whole thing. Practice defensive driving. When approaching and passing a horse, stop for direction or lower your speed to 10 miles per hour. Hopefully, they'll stop and wait for us to say go ahead or thank you or
whatever. Um, when leaving, slowly speed up after you have been instructed to and you have safely passed to avoid startling the horse. After you have safely passed to avoid startling the horse, I'm leaving. Then
um Bloxy Grove contains canal side trails instead of many canals. So people are aware that aren't familiar with the community that most of our trails are canal side. And then the only other thing I changed is the very last sentence. Make sure to
follow these rules instead of tips because if it's a tip then they're like oh then whatever I don't have to pay attention. Um to keep our community safe. I don't like it. For more information, visit
the town website. Is that It could be. We have Facebook pages. I mean, how do we do all that? We state of Florida, we can like the statute. Yeah. The statute just says you have to slow down the tip. Yeah. So, yeah, I know that one.
So, for more information, if you're going to say, I would say for more information, it would be to contact the town. Oh, yeah. contact town hall or something like that because then we can go from there from contacting the town and direct them to where to go. Yes. So that sounds good. And put in the town phone number, the
town hall general phone number and Yeah, that's good. Or the website and either one. It's going to be on the website as well. Remember this is a audio visual. Will there be a link on the thumb? We probably could write in we could probably add in a graphic to showcase
the link as well as like any other information when it comes to the phone numbers, the um if you want to include also the uh other social medias um any of that. Oh, it was taken care of. You're good.
Okay. Um, yeah, that was the only So, if they go to the town website and they they're going to be able to click on a link and see this video or No, we could do that, right? Or that's too hard. You wouldn't be able to put it in the video, but like you could you could
display it on the video just to show like this is the link and then you just type that in. Yeah. Kind of like on Facebook you at the top or the bottom. I got it now. And then in any descriptions that gets included that and maybe also include a link.
Ashley, do you have anything? That sounds good. My only suggestion I guess um if you're taking suggestions on the content would be maybe to put um the Florida statute number maybe um as part of slow down to 10, you know, that way it impresses upon people, hey, this is a
statute. This is a requirement. It's not just permissive. But I said everything else sounds great. And with that comment, maybe instead of rules, follow the law. Um, what is the statute that is the
Craig wrote that up? It should be on these signs, Craig. Nope. Um, yeah, I think it's a violence one. Oh, no. They have their ordinance. Even Indiana didn't have it on. While he's looking that up, Darcy, to your
point, if we put we ordered we put Tasine had in tips, you wanted it to say rules. But the thing is everything above here is not exactly the law
slowing down. Well, it might be, but you know what I'm saying. So I I don't see what putting law in there has because we're the all of this information is not out of the statute. It's
language. It only says slop for literally. Yep. That's it. Um that's the only reason I wanted to bring that up to you. So if you want I mean to me it's semantics but it's there's still a law that there is horse safety. So we're putting in the law. So, but these
are not, you know, rules. Leave it at rules tips. I just put my two cents in. So, whatever you guys want to I don't want to get us in trouble. That's the only reason. I mean, there's a law that you're Which we're putting in right after, right? So, that's I don't see why that
would be an issue. Ashley, do you have since you're a lawyer, is that an issue? Um, I mean, I'm looking up the statute right now. It's somewhere in 316 if you want me to give you the Yes. citation. 316.082. 0825. I'm saying if we put that sentence in. Well,
wait. She can hear it. Say what it was. 08. Thank you. Are Are you Ashley? We We couldn't hear what you said. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear what you guys were saying right there. Were you asking me
my opinion on whether or not we should put in you need to follow the law from from a from a lawyer's point of view the very last on this on the number one I'm sorry on the one minute where it says make sure to follow these it said
tips originally we changed it to rules and then um Darcy had suggested or mentioned um follow the law the the these laws it's not these laws we change it to the law. Yeah, I I I think that I mean everybody
should follow the law in general. Um so yes, I mean make sure to follow the law and keeping our community safe. Um but I don't all of this technically is a law. So I mean if you're asking in a legal capacity, it make sure to follow the law and any rules, suggestions, tips,
whatever other, you know, word you want to put in there. But I I I think it's fine to say make sure to follow the law if you want to put that in. Does that answer what you guys are asking? I think so. I think law is fine in there as long as it says follow the law.
Follow the law. So the law you're not saying these are part of the law. Follow the law. It's verbiage. Yeah. It'll work. Okay. Good. Anything else, Sean? It's for me. No, I like it. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.
Do you want to add anything on the second one while you've got it? Oh, Ashley, do you have anything on the second one? Um, the second one? No, I um I think it's fine. I mean, I prefer the one from the to to educate the drivers again. So,
I don't really have anything additional. I just want to say for the record, the the statute is 316.0825. Um, and it doesn't specifically mention 10 miles per hour, but it says you shall not intentionally startle or injure an animal when you're operating a motor vehicle. So,
Oh, that's cool. I like that. I think it's a little bit maybe broader or um, you know, you can't like honk obviously because that would intentionally startle the animal. So, just for the record, that's the statute. Okay. to the first one. If we could add
when approaching and passing a horse or horse trailer, where is uh third paragraph? And when approaching in passing a horse or horse trailer,
good job. Or don't pull out in front of them and slam on your bits. And she said stop for yeah stop for direction direction or lower your speed leaving as to avoid uh after you have been
instructed to in a safely passing as to avoid sterling. Thank you. We good. All right. I like it. Any other comments? Just as a qualification guys. I'm not giving like my legal advice on
go in there or not. It's just it's my own, you know, my own. Yeah, you're just sp you follow the law. I mean, that's that's not legal advice. That's common sense advice, right? Thank you. Okay. I'm a little funny about practice defensive driving. When approach
approaching and passing a horse or horse trailer, lower your speed to 10 doesn't you're going to be made. These people pass you out on Okobee all the time. They're not going 10. Well, supposed to stop for direction or slow down the time.
Yeah, that was the trailer. She said, you want to read that out? how you how you with uh with the addition of the um what you said was practice defensive driving. When approaching and passing a horse or horse trailer, stop for direction or lower your speed to 10 miles per hour.
When leaving, slowly speed up after you have been instructed to and safe and safely pass to avoid startling the horse. I guess if the trailer is parked that that would be, you know, applicable if the trailer's moving. Or do you want to add the trailer? No,
because we I want to keep it more to just the horse, for lack of a better word, dummying it down to the people that don't know anything about horses. Yeah. You know, and you're right because if you put too much in there and then they're like, "Okay, well, I think it's important to add the trailer wherever it goes."
No, no, it's fine. I just I was trying to put it in my head like how that would work. Sounds good. Does that work? Yep. Perfect. Okay. And K you travel more by trailer than I do. Yeah. I just was like, well, if I was
pulled over, I would want them to slow, you know, that's all. And what about draft two? Is I think draft two looks really good because that's about that's pretty much more for the riders, not for the motoring public. Yeah.
Um, the helmets aren't just for beginners. There's actually a law if you're what 16 or under. My granddaughter fights this every day cuz it's only our county which is weird but do you want do you want us to put that
in there? Is that what you're saying? So when it says helmets aren't just for beginners it's the law for 16 and Okay. anymore. Ashley, were you able to even read that part? We're sorry. You can also
I'm keeping up. I'm reading draft two. Okay. I would change third paragraph instead of might not see you. Don't see you. Just assume you're not seeing.
You get that? You don't. Yeah, I like I like draft, too. I think that, you know, Any other any other thoughts about draft two? I Okay. The only thing I mean I you know
I don't want to pick it but if they're walking with dogs I'm assuming they're going to be on a leash but they're walking your dog on a leash or your dog. I just don't want to make it too long. Okay. Yeah. Did you want to change that or no?
No. I'm assuming they're going to There's a lot without leashes. I know. Especially on the on your trails. How does that apply to the riders with their dogs? My god, this moneyuge. No idea. The horse riders when they bring their own dogs.
That's terrible. I don't like that either. Yeah, I see it a lot. I have a dog. It stays home. Yeah, we a lot. There's a lot of really good dogs, but there's a lot of dogs that depends on person interaction, right? Exactly. I bring a dog and what if these two dogs
don't get along? There's one problem. I mean, there's a lot of things that can happen doing that and then you're on a horse. Ashley, do you have any say hello? Any other thoughts on draft two that you would like to see in there? Do I have any? No. I mean, I see the dog point. Um, I think maybe just keeping
your dogs under control. Um, because we've had dogs just run out and yip at the hor's feet before. But no, I don't have any other I mean I think that draft two is is good um as it is. Um because because the I mean the riders
know we we know what we're doing. I would like to say I think that again the focus is on the drivers but I think draft two is I don't really have many comments on that one. So with the changes the minor changes we made to draft here everyone's good with that?
Yes sir. Okay. Would you all like to see it again before or can we just get started? I mean on the next step next phase. What is the next step? You're going to start filming the next Oh, sorry. I was like thinking for a second. Okay.
Um the next step after this would uh be a couple behind the things obviously making these changes, but I'll be talking with Reagan about all of that. Um, the next big step that would be needing good communication would be a filming date of when we could organize
that and be able to meet like with what you said the um uh other horse riders uh in the area that would be willing uh to do this. Um I think that's great. So it's filming the next filming editing
then follows and then we figure out how how many versions we can get for you all. That sounds amazing. Thank you so much for doing this with us. We really appreciate it. Thank you very much. If I could, just before you guys leave, um would it be helpful to maybe solicit clips from
people in the area? That way the the residents of the Groves can be, you know, involved as well. Maybe there's a Facebook post that says, "Hey, do you have any clips of trail riding that, you know, we may or may not be able to include in our video?" you know, um, so
that that way that content can help you and then whatever else is needed you can fill in on your filming date like for the, you know, for Katie's children and and things like that on that filming date. That would actually be Yeah, very helpful. Yeah, I think that's would include the community, which is always good. I think
it's a great idea and we're gonna figure out with you all individually um how because I know you all have a lot of this as well um and just make sure that it works for your as far as the same versions and stuff for your editing and stuff. That's the only issue.
It should work. Exactly. Great idea. We'll give a date though where we've got to get it in by. Great. I think that's a wonderful idea. We'll be in touch with you all as far as this goes. Are you are you back soon, Ashley, too? Or you can just
um school starts August 9th or 10th or something? So, I'll be back 11th with Who's counting? Who's counting? Right. So, I'll be back that the week before. Um and I'll be in person for the next meeting. Okay. Okay. We good? Yes. That's great. We're getting something
done. It's moving forward. I like that feeling. You got it. Thank you. Thank you again. Thank you. Thank you very much. Good job. Yep. Wonderful. Okay, moving on to
item number two. Continue discussion of signs acceptance and placement for town trails. Craig, would you want to go and start this this off? All right. So, if you guys see in the packets, these are some of the signs that um I ran ran across, you know,
across the street to Wellington, ran across the street over to Indian Trails. These are some of the signs they have. They're for examples. Um if you do see the Wellington has a big trails rule sign. They do post these on all their trails.
So, I I do believe we we need to have something in general like this as well that we can post our town rules. Um, I know in their ordinance, they have their own ordinance that they push through for trails for their own rules and everything. Obviously, if you see it in
the one, it's showing the age of must that as you mentioned, I think Darcy mentioned about the kids under 16 must have wear a helmet. That is part of one of their ordinances that they must wear a helmet over there. I like having the equestrian trail rules. That's a good idea.
Yeah. Um except for that ours are multi, right? Yeah. I mean, you instead of just saying, you say multi-purpose trails. I I definitely like the you know, we we actually need to get to do a um I think
we we already have a motorized ordinance. You can't have motorized vehicles. That's already in place, I'm pretty sure, in in our town ordinance. But I don't think we have a um for the for riders age 16 or under. Mhm.
We don't I don't think we have an ordinance for that. So we would definitely need to get something like that. A little state law. Yeah. But I think it needs to be put in a rules, right? That it can be implemented saying, "Hey, I don't know who like if we're going to have the horse police out there chasing
kids down." Well, no. more of the I I think I know in Wellington majority of all the riders over there all wear helmets. Yeah. So I don't know if that's part of their because it says on the statue there their ordinance says 16. I don't know if it's part of their rule over there everyone has to. I know we're more of a
western right than we are you know full-blown horse equestrian then what they're polo and a you know d and everything over there. But if if this is a state law, this should be a no-brainer for the council because basically we're adopting state law in our ordinance
and and go from there. I mean, it's I think it's important because the um the younger people, they're all about jumping on their ATVs and their horses and everything else they have. And you know, when they think about, oh crud, I should have went ahead and and uh wore a
helmet is when they're waking up in a hospital. Yep. With a brain bleed or something worse. Yes, sir. So I said this was you know an example for the rules. I don't know you guys want to come up with certain rules or
how we want to implement this. I figured Ashley torn the world she would have got us a whole bunch of questions. I I looked and you would die. They were like on boards and stuff painted. I'm like I'm not sending this this guy. He's going to be like what? There's a there's
a sign on North Road that shows the desert. Is there rules on that sign? Do you know what I'm talking about? I couldn't tell you exactly. I drive by every day and neverends to. I just drove by over there earlier. I was checking a road out. I'll take a picture of it and send it via Sammy. Okay.
So, I I haven't seen any specific signs except for kind of, you know, these Wellington signs. I don't go riding too far outside of um home. Um, I think we all can agree that we like the rules on the sign. Maybe a suggestion for us
would be that um we can develop which ones we want to keep and which ones we don't. You know, for example, I think I just glanced it and said no more than two riders on the trail at a time. I mean, come on. So, that one would have to go. But, um, a lot of the other ones obviously could say we could develop our
own. We als we don't want to overload it either where it's like information overload and you can't read it. So maybe a suggestion for us would be to um go through which ones we we want um to keep and which ones we don't at least as a starting point from the Wellington sign
um um as a starting point. That would be my suggestion. We could take no camping on trails of Yep. Who's going to camp on our stuff? I said the reason I I put this in there is for as an example for you guys. Yeah. No, I appreciate it. And what what
about like a known kicker wearing a I mean they know they put a red ribbon on the See, I don't know that. Yeah, I know. I don't know that you put a a red flag on them. That's the first thing for me to
do. We need this help protect the wildlife on our I mean, we're not really going to litter or anything. I don't litter anywhere. I go pick up the pork. But I'm saying like help protect the wildlife. Do not release or feed any. I'm trying to condense it, right? Because the more lettering the more expensive, right?
Yes. Well, I mean, it's not really. No, because it's all like a big print. I mean, all one shot. Wellington sign other than a couple of other things, it it pretty much is is encompassing. I mean, that's what they do over there. Yep.
And um I mean, if we wanted to add anything else to it, we could, but my thing is the wheel is already there. If we need to add a little air to the tire, that's fine. Yeah. So, like I'm suggesting you guys ponder on this, do your homework, and
say, "Hey, this is what we've came up with. We can bring it up because I'm going to have to do a full draft and have once you give me your set, I'll have to get a full draft from a sign shop to draw it up and then I can present it saying, "Hey, is this because we're we'll have to present it to what?
council, I'm pretty sure, for them to approve it or do you guys able to approve it yourself? I don't know that exactly. I would love for us to approve it ourselves because it seems like once it leaves here and goes to council that it gets it gets in the weeds over there and I I found that the simplest things
sometimes are the most complicated ones and and that's why you know it's a I'm I'm glad to see things getting done in the town but for years nothing was getting done because it would get to council and then it would die up on the dis on council and then people
would get frustrated and and you know the whole thing is getting this stuff done so we move on to correct to other things. So as far as this one goes, I feel we could just take off no camping on trails. We could take off no set of more
than two horses on trails. And then the whole protect the wildlife. I don't know if that's necessary. And no vehicles of any kind on trails. We can't have that there because we we do allow not vehicles, not those electric bikes.
It says no vehicles of any kind and a bicycle is a vehicle considered a vehicle. It is especially those ebikes, right? We have to have something else there. No motorized vehicles. Maybe I don't The last one says equestrian trails are open to equestrians and pedestrians. So
actually the what you could do is the same thing that they do on the turn bike is that they have a anything over a certain brake horsepower is not allowed on the turn bike. So that's where we can we can do that on our end. um too. So yeah, but but a brake horsepower is
different from horsepower. So um we could set you'll see what a brake horsepower is or a you know you don't want a see you don't want an ATV going down there because you know like my daughter's ATV she just got to 72 miles an hour. You
don't need some Oh yeah, they're insane. And um so you don't need stuff like that on there. But you know somebody has a golf cart that does 15 miles an hour. I mean, that's that's okay, but you don't want something that's going to be doing 30, 40, 50 miles an hour. But can can you make the difference gas
or electric? Like motorized is a motor that runs with gas. The way we like So, I don't know if you've all been over to High Park yet when we we finish that, right? That trail that comes across there, you can't get a golf cart down it, right? You can't cuz we put ballards in the way
that it's only a horse or say a bike can get down it. That's it. We can't implement that to every trail because we do have to get our mowers down it. But like High Park, we're able to put gates up and then I made bypasses outside the gates so the horses can cross around outside of the gate and they can come
into the trail to cross it. So what we're trying to do is our metal gates that we have out there now, the old ones have been there for 30 years. We're trying to move them so that we can actually lock them a different way and we'll remove like a section of the
actual gate that will only be four four feet wide or 5 ft wide, however wide would be easier for a horse to cross through that we can keep a side byside off of it. I do have a question. Are any of our trails like say E-Road or F-RO for example, is that just for horses or are
they all multi? They're multi-purpose trails. Yep. That one was designated as a multi-purpose trail. and the, you know, when you put in a brake horsepower that actually and that's where uh you get with the sheriff's office and um uh so
it gives a teeth into the deputies are out there if they see somebody riding an ATV or down there and they go, "Well, there's no signs." They're correct. There are no signs right now, so it it really can't be enforced. So, but if you have a brake horsepower on there, that'll go and say, "All right, well,
this is" and they they know what brake horsepower is going to be in a um you know, like a an ATV or side by side, they they know that the brake horsepower is going to be well over that. So, it's just, you know, finding out the um and
that's I can get that information for you. What brake horsepower is for different, you know, um what it goes for speed is basically it's it's related to speed. What about motorized vehicle? Is that I I want to say that I I've seen the signs across street that does say no
motorized vehicles on trails. I think that's I want to I do believe they have them across the street, but I'm not too familiar. I don't know if they'll know any, you know. Yeah, because you're kind of talking French to me right now as well. And I'm a motorized guy. Motorized. They got it. Yeah, I think motorized would cover.
Motorized is fine. We're just trying to figure, you know, I want the guy that's never been on a horse trail or a multi-purpose trail. to know what we're talking about and put absolutely no motorized vehicles. Um because even even the uh all these
trails or the bridge, I see dirt bikes going across it every day. And and dirt bikes is one of those things you're never going to stop. Yeah. Nope. Ballards don't come. No. Cuz remember they're sk they're skinnier than your horse. If you can if you go through it with a horse, you go through with a motor as well.
That's why I feel like a bridge with the gate should be there. where the bridge collecting canal into all these trails that we have yet to be named. But the the whole fence is down. So it doesn't matter where I park my trailer.
They go right in there. Oh, he's talking about on that side. See, right on the southern side. So they you can put the gate up, but they'll just go the other way. You can go all the way around. Basically, what we need to do is is digest these pictures and come back with
you or email you with with what we're looking for. Or I mean, I So, I could come up with a design and then I could present it to y'all and we can go from there. Yeah. I'd really like to get the signs up. I'd really like to get, you know, uh these these multi-use trails done, designated
and and move on to the next. Okay. So for this was something I didn't know if you guys had seen the first picture. Yeah. So I put mult like I know the rules one is a big thing for for everybody because everyone needs to know
the rules but you know like the equestrian trail or roots you know I don't know if we wanted to make like our own I like that town trail sign that you know lock green maybe trails I wouldn't say multi-purpose trails maybe lock
I like something like this cuz it's cuz it's right to the point you know the signs that we used to have up here they were big oh it's monsters it And then if you had to stop and read them and people aren't going to stop to read a sign like that. Well, I say that about too. If we could condense,
you know, paraphrase it or instead of paragraph. So, I mean, you think of the rules ones, you're on the horse kind of. You're walking up to it. If you're you're going to read it, glance through it. But what the equestrian rules do for Wellington is that it gives teeth to the
sheriff's office and they need to enforce it. If you have nothing out there, they don't have just like not having any speed limit signs. If you don't have it, there's nothing to enforce. Um, and like the ones you're talking about, Frank, I think those are 4 foot by 4 foot signs. They're monsters. The
big brown ones, right? I'm from the ones that Yeah. that everyone's all They're all half of them are all faded out. Taylor is still like you could even maybe have because we can't have equestrian trail. No, cuz they're multi-purpose trails. We
could just put a trail maybe a hatchy trail or something. Boxy Grove trails, right? With a big horse on it. Yeah, I kind of like the pen rider. What about our turtle? I'm just joking. These No, I don't mind the turtle at all.
So, I'm just Are we making different signs for different areas or are they all part So, if you see like this one is literally on top. This one goes with the every horse trail, right? So that one goes on top of the rules one. That's exactly what they
have every trail over there. I mean this is the red one you see the red and white. That's their ordinance. They pass their own ordinance for all their own rules. Um so they have three of them like Yes, they have three on top each each other on every single road over there or every single trail. Is that what we're aiming to do?
Huh? That's a lot. They do. Yeah. No, no. I I just No. I'm just saying I don't know that we need to do all but No, they have one pole, three signs on one pole. Well, so I mean I'm just This is the information.
I'm just throwing it out there to you. What are you guys put equestrian trail usage rules? Can't because it's not difficult to use are writing. These are the rules for the equestrians, right? I don't know that we need three signs.
It sounds like maybe they forgot something or they approved something and then maybe later on they approved something else. Um I think just the one rule sign and I don't it might be cheaper to just make that one sign and then put that at most of the the trails
and then on the top of that is you know Lock Hatche Groves trail with a horse right like a silhouette or something like that horse. Yeah. So if you look at the Wellington one, the trails one, if you just put locks at your groves, trails rules, and that could be labeling
your trail plus your rules and everything all at once. But these rules are just designated to the equestrians, right? Yeah, that's on all their equestrian trails. So what I'm saying to you is there's no bicycle rules. There's no walking rules. The only rules that are are for the
equestrians, right? So, if we just put equestrians possessive trail rules, that way it's still a multi-use trail, but the rules are designated for the equestrians. It's semantics. I know that. You need to put
in into that one sign, you need to put the other stuff about, you know, bicyclists will look out for horses, pedestrians will yield to you, pedestrians and bicyclists will yield to horses away something like that.
Yeah. so that you can put it all on one sign. And you can also encompass the the other thing in there that you know like down at the bottom uh you know you would do the um operation of motorized
vehicles prohibited under whatever our ordinances and also um the riders under the age of 16 must wear. you gonna include that all in one sign instead of doing because I think what happened is that they forgot and they had to add this stuff and it was cheaper just to make
new signs up than to go ahead and and and add it to there. So if we can do all this stuff and and again you know Wellington has already built the wheel, we just need to modify it a little bit and um for your guys is what you want the rules to be.
you kind of give it to me, I can put it together and I can have it designed and we can represent and you guys can approve. And I like it at all of our roads coming into the town. I know we have a lot of them, you know, because we have Okachobee on both sides of southern,
you know, and um I like the the warning, slow down, yield for horses. It's it's real basic. It gets the message across. That would be great at the entrances. Yeah. So yeah, so like over by the town sign. Yeah. So it put these every Yeah, this one right here.
Yeah, they've got them all over. Basically, that's it. It's They got the white ones and the blue ones. So they've got them all over. But I The only thing I would like to see on there is for these ones reflective. So at night when the lights hit them, that is reflective. Okay. Yes,
these are nice. I saw these in the Yeah, that's They're all reflective. Yeah. So I mean I saw them the day they were actually being made at the sign shop. Oh, did you? Yeah, I saw them all. Is that the top over there in Silver Beach? Yes, sir. That's where any chos gets her stone. So yeah, I think if that one is
at all the major entrances and then the other ones are on the trails and and even on Folsam even though there's no trails there people coming in there that's their one of their ways in Okachobee right or to Lett's Rose and it needs to be over there too any at at that road more
so than anybody else any place else collecting all the arterial right that one it's short and simple and Darcy when you say that do you mean like on each letter road as you turn onto C road and E road like that. Absolutely.
Yeah. Okay. No, no, I'm just trying to get a visual. Yeah. I mean, come let's say coming off of uh Forest Hill down Folsome, there should be one there like coming into the town and then one on each road. Okay. No. Yeah. Anything on both sides of Okachobee that comes off of it. Anything
coming off of Southern onto any of our roads here. And I don't even care if it's if it's uh the uh you know South Sea Road. It's a dead-end road. Still put the sign there. I mean, it's consistent all the way across the board. It's also where the trail head is. So,
you really need it there. Yeah. With people coming into this town, they need to know people are on horseback. Exactly. You know, so I'll I'll design something up different than this one so we don't look like we're Yeah. coping them. So it'll be it'll a
little bit different. Just get a kid on a on a horse and put their picture on it. It kind of works like that. The design will be different. Yeah. And you know, definitely we could do a turtle there with the tree where the trees are. I definitely incorporate our thing.
Incorporate the town logo that's on your shirt if we can. Any kind of sign like that we'd have we'd put, you know, even on this other horse one. I would like to put like somewhere on there. town looked at you grows with our logo or our actual long logo on top of it or something.
What you could do is have a person sitting on the horse with the logo on their shirt. You would never see it. Nothing on the pack. That sign right there is a 4 foot by three foot sign. Yeah. You put a person on there with a logo, you would never see it. That one's big. Only reason I know it's that size
because it's got two post on it. It's over 9 square feet. Yeah. No, that's So we don't want them that big. No, because anything over nine square feet has to be two posted, which is from ridiculously expensive thing. Yeah. I mean, three Yeah. 9 square feet.
Well, the reason why they do it is because stop signs are under it, the 3x3 because in a hurricane or whatever, stop signs one of the first signs to go because they're the bare minimum right under the max. Okay? So, they're the first thing that goes
during a tornado or hurricane. They go first. And it's by state law. Anything over the 3x3, it has to have a two post on it. There was also something I saw I put it on our trail riding page where there's flags
at the crosswalks. So the horse riders Yeah, I think you guys were you guys have talked about it when they were talking about the grant for Oak Boulevard. The only problem I see with that is people stealing the bikes. I mean, you you guys saw collecting canal when they coned it all off. Where did all the
cones end up? In the canal. In the canal. Where do you think something back in somebody's pickup truck? Where do you think the first kid's going to be when he sees those flags sitting up there? Yeah. Think he's going to be running down the street with that thing? Yeah. Those flags are being gone quicker than you think.
So, you're going to come back at our next meeting with uh with designs and everything? Yep. I'll come back with a design. Long as you guys get me the rules that you all want. Um, if you could give me something like this, you know what you want to add each one. Um, a red line on
it and everything. Okay. You wanted to email it to you? Yes, please. Ashley, do you want to say anything? No, thank you. I'm listening. This is a great idea. Okay, good. Okay, so we're we got a an action plan
for that. Mhm. And hold on. I have to get to the make sure there's nothing else. The only other two things are the committee member comments and then Mr. Lau wants to talk to you guys about our
next meeting date as he has some he'll be out. Yes. So on September 18th is our meeting date in September. We'll be out of town. Okay. Um, I'd like to set like I've given you guys, you know, two months in advance.
Let's set a date so we know we're all at that time. This is for the September date. Yes, this would be for September. So, August date will be regular. Yes, August would be regular. Then it would be September. I'd be out of town. The August one is one, two, is the 21st, right?
I believe so. I will not be here. Would it be August meeting? Correct. August. Yes, the 21st. Will you be still touring the world? Yeah. No, I I will be home. I will be home the uh first week of August. Um
Okay. Oh, so you're coming home right when all the traffic mayhem's going to happen? Sounds like you want to by by Zoom. Is that possible for you? No. Oh, okay. Well, we can we'll keep it on August
21st and and um if you can do by Zoom, that would be great, right? Yeah. Because I know for for for me I'm going to be be gone the 13th through the 16th
of August in Orlando. So, I just want to try to keep these meetings on, you know, on schedule as much as possible. September was that we're moving the meeting date. Oh, so you're going to Okay. So, yeah, September would be the date,
the month that we'd be moving. So, the 25th is fine or we don't look Yeah, I'm fine for the 25th. I just know I won't be here the whole week of the 14 or the 13th to the 15th or to the 21st actually.
Is everybody else good with September 25th? Yeah, I have no problem with that. You, Ashley? Fine. September 25th, Craig's going to be out of town on the 18th. Yep. And that's the following Thursday. Yeah. Yes. I just thought that's Then it'll be 5:00 for all the
I'll send out calendar invitation talk. Okay. Yeah. And I don't I don't think there's any other committee meetings that we I don't believe so. I'll just double check and then send you guys an email confirm. Okay. Sounds good. Okay. So, we'll go with uh committee member comments. Katie, do you want to start it off? Anything?
No, I don't have anything. I I think everything's going really well and I appreciate everyone trying to get this stuff moved along finally. It's all I got to say about that. I made my comments and Craig, we still have to get
Yeah, I'm I know me and Darcy have been playing phone tag, meeting tag, left and right. Every time we set a date to go on our ride around, I end up forgetting or I'm caught up in something and it's vice versa. Same thing for her as well. Um,
so we still have to meet Katie. You said that you were okay. I I'm okay. Like I I think I, you know, I think I got it. Okay. Um, if something comes up, I can just call you and say, "Hey, what about this?" Yeah. I know Frank said he when he gets time, he'll give me a call and so we can
meet up. He's pretty busy. Yeah. And then Ashley said after she's doing tour in the world, she would get with me to meet up as well. Ashley, do you have any comments? Um, I do not. I did. Um, I did want to I guess say unfortunately the governor
vetoed certain things uh for our town. I think it related to like certain of the roadways and I guess my question was whether that impacts what we were moving forward to do um to get the equestrian crossings across Okobee Boulevard or whether that's
separate. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, I can explain further. Yeah, that that would that was a grant that was with um Mary McNichols with the Palm Beach County TP. Yeah, that was a grant through them. I don't know where that's at right now. And I don't we haven't received any word that that funding has been affected.
That is federal funding that is received by the Palm Beach County Transportation Planning Agency and Palm Beach County government. So, as of right now, everything seems to be moving along, but um I'll get with the town manager and our consultant to make sure there's no changes, and if so, we'll appraise the
committee. Um Craig will appraise the committee. Yeah, I think the only thing that's really cut was public works. CIP. Yeah. And that was that was on a state level. Yeah. With a lot of water. It was a public works state of roadway stuff. Roadways. Okay. So I that was that was
one um question and I had another and I just forgot it. Um oh uh my other one was um I know that Mr. Galant was working um on possibly getting an equestrian trail expanding the trails related to I think it was G- Road. Um
and so uh I think the last meeting he was going to give an update on that. So maybe the next meeting that we have in August, it'd be nice to kind of hear the update on um the the crossing and uh whether we can ride on um the I guess
the G- Road Canal. Um uh so that would just be my only other comment. I think he's referencing Madison. That was a I had multiple conversations with M and Royal Palm Madison Green and their biggest concerns are is the horses not
staying on the trail. They have massive concerns of if we open that gate down there that multiple more than just horses will be coming through that gate into the M property. I'm trying to get them to come in and actually do a presentation. And they
were actually asking for us to give them a PSA of what our concerns why we wanted it open. Yeah. But here's the thing. That's our property. And you know what? If they have problem with it, then then you know what? Honestly, I I'm I'm going I me
personally, I've been dealing with this for 35 years with everybody about well, you know, if you open this is what's going to happen. You know, I really don't care. Open it up and you know, and and let the public use it. and the bridge, right? Yeah. And if they want, they can put a sign
there that says stay off the property or whatever signs to the equestrians they they want to put, but I I I don't want to open a discussion now. I just kind of was curious as to where where that left because I know that we were going to receive an update on that the last meeting. So maybe next the next meeting we can put on from Mr. Glan or somebody
else to update. It would be me, you miss. Okay. Yeah. And oh, go ahead. Go ahead. the since we're on roads the closing of how's that going to affect like what are what are we implementing here and for road
no for when they close North Lake so when they close North Lake we actually have pushed off FO collecting closure until after that goes so after that finishes then FORO and collecting will be the closure after so we don't
affect the traffic trying to get to Southern right um we did push our contractor to two other locations so we can kind of get that back and we wouldn't actually block our own roads to stop our own traffic being. So on Oak Boulevard we are actually
looking in we're going to put signs out for no outlets going to the north to try to stop you know non-residents trying to find that alternate route that's going to take them back to you know 161st before they know it. Um we're
trying to put we're going to actually we're putting signs together right now. We're putting barricades with no outlet signs on them to go all on the north side of the road. Ashley, do you know what's happening? Um I I think I understand what's happening um with with what he's talking about because I know that the gate that
yellow gate has been open in the past and that and there's the blockage on they are Yeah, I'm sorry. They will not they're only going to open that yellow gate for emergency vehicles only and Indian Trails is going to man it. They're um closing off North Lake to
repair the train tracks. So all that tra all that new traffic out west is going to come south now and to go east. So everything from Avenue, all that stuff now was going to be forced to go south a few miles to southern and Okachobee
for eight days. So for eight eight days or more, we're gonna have uh New York City style traffic jams out here. Yeah. We're not sure if you knew that yet. I've been following you guys on Facebook with the with the closures and and all
of that. That's unfortunate. Hopefully Okchobee is not gonna, you know, be they need to go to Southern if that's the case. That's so the county has implemented that the main traffic that they're trying to push is all the way out to Pratt going to Southern Boulevard and to go orange
through the um Indian Trails area. We are the sec Okachobee is a secondary a detour. Can we put a local traffic only sign up? I don't know if we can borrow that from one of the agencies you guys have your ways, but maybe like a local traffic
only or one of those lighted signs up so that we we're not having, you know, New York City come through Okchobee, which is definitely a concern. Um, we we are expecting our delivery for our new message boards to come in this week or next week. And so we Richard and
myself have decided with Miss Francine about the town manager about putting those out on Okubi Boulevard with the some kind of message. We haven't came up with completely yet. We haven't decided 100% but we're looking at putting our message boards on Oak
Boulevard to try to help. Is there going to be but I mean a a sign could be assigned and it's never going to stop everybody. What about PBSO? Are they going to be out enforcing this? Um according to the county PBSO will be more than normal on Oak Boulevard on any
of the detourred sites. The only thing I can say is thank goodness it's summer and there's no school. That could be it all. Well, the scary part is you got prechool I mean you got the the school buses doing their pre-eruns.
So it it's it's going to be fun for eight possibly 10 days. Thank you for So my comments are is that thank you everybody for showing up. Craig, Sammy, um Mary, and um the young lady from
Wellington or from Lock Se High School. And um yeah, we're finally getting something done. We can see we're getting something done. It makes me feel good because I was at that point to where if we're not getting anything done, there's no reason for me to to give up my time. So, thank you for everybody and I'll go
ahead and entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjourn. I don't know the time. 6:16. I second the motion to adjourn. Yay. Safe travels, Ashley. Have fun. Have fun for all of us. Can't wait to see you guys when I get
back. Don't print us like that. I'm following you vicariously. Me too. Thank you guys. Take care. Have a great day. Bye. Enjoy yourself. Thank you.