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allegiance, please of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Roll call, please. >> Committee member Katie Lakeman,

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>> present. >> Committee member Jodie Jansen, >> here. Committee member Darcy Dean Murray >> here. >> Committee member Frank Shyola >> present. >> Committee member Ashley Bruce is present via Zoom. >> Yes.

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>> Hi Ashley. >> Hi there. >> Uh board lesson on Craig Lowour >> here. >> And board clerk Gabriela Crossdale is here. And then we also have Cammy here with us who is Craig's public works coordinator.

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>> Okay. So we do have a quorum. Any additions, deletions, and or modifications to the agenda? >> No sir. >> Anybody? >> Not hearing anything. Moving on to approval of the meetings. Approval of the 521206

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meeting. Whenever anybody's ready, I need a motion to approve in a second, please. >> Motion to approve meeting 521 2026 minutes. >> Second. Motion a second. Any other

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comments? Hearing none. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. All opposed. Motion carries. >> Can I get Ashley's a or nay? >> What's that? >> Can I get her vote as well? Ashley,

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>> you can have my vote, but I was not present for the last meeting, so I'm not I'm not sure that it counts, but I would approve it. >> Okay. All right, sounds good. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, number two, swearing in of Ashley Bruce. Is that something that's

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got to be done in person or can we do it over Zoom? >> Yeah, we can do it over Zoom. She just has to repeat after me and raise her right hand if possible, Ashley. Okay, >> perfect. >> All right. Hopefully I go at a good pace, but if you need me to restate anything, please let me know. >> Okay. I do solemnly swear or affirm

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>> I do solemnly swear or affirm >> that I will support, protect and defend >> that I will support, protect and defend >> the Constitution and government of the United States and of the state >> the Constitution of the Government and of the United States and the State

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>> and the Charter of the Town of Locks Hahatchee Groves >> and the Charter of the Town of Locks Hache Groves >> that I am duly qualified >> that I am duly qualified >> to hold office under the Constitution of the State >> that I under the Constitution of the

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State >> and the Charter of the Town of Locks Hache Groves >> and the charter of the town of Locks Hatche Groves >> and that I will well >> and that I will well >> and faithfully perform >> and faithfully perform

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>> the duties of committee member >> the duties of committee member >> upon which I am now about to enter >> upon which I am now about to All right, sounds good. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Hey, congratulations, Ashley. >> Thank you. I'm happy to be back.

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>> Okay. Um, uh, regular agenda number three, appointment of a chair and vice chair. >> Do that to appoint. You want to be chair and vice chair. >> Do you want to be the chair again? >> Sure. >> Does anybody else want to be chair?

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Okay. So, I'll appoint Frank. >> What do I do? >> Nominate. >> Yeah. >> Oh, come on. I just want to appoint. [laughter] >> Yeah, you can. >> I'll accept the nomination. Nomination is the word you want. >> Oh, thank you.

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>> Ashley, do you want to be second? >> I'll second. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> So, we just have to vote on the chair and the vice chair. So, um, all in favor of me being the chair, uh, say I. >> I,

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>> uh, carries 5 to zero. Uh, vice chair for Ashley. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> I. >> Oh, I think you said I or you. >> Okay. So, um, the eyes have it. Uh, moving on to number four, discussion

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regarding pillars of strategic planning. >> All right. So, this is um what we were talking about last time and I sent the emails out for the um to go over the pillars to give all your um discussions on like what you want to bring to council. Um so, council did come up with

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this worksheet and they would like to have the worksheet filled out. I know a couple have already filled them out. Um Ashley, you would have to fill yours out when you get come back. >> She's Ashley sent hers to me via email. >> Yeah. >> Wow. and I'll print it out for you guys

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so you guys can have a copy. >> Very productive, actually. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Gabriella. >> Can I ask that you just briefly go over it to find out exactly what they're looking for? I mean, I get the defining rural rural, but like the strategic

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pillars and do they want a list? Do they want >> Yeah. So, like the list that you guys have were emailing. Um, that's kind of something what they want. They want a priority list of like what you guys see as a priority so they can go through them and say, "Hey, this is what we

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think is a priority according to our our committee and this is what we want our committee to work on to move forward with." >> And you want these as individual committee members or >> so they would all come to the committee member the chair and and Frank would um take them in front of all of council on

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the next workshop >> and he would they would go through all that with him. >> Okay. Um, >> so if I want to send this to Frank, do I send it through town and I'll send it to >> either or or we can make, you know, we can make it. >> You can't send it to him. >> Send it to me. You got

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>> It would have to come to us and send it and we would present it >> for Frank to council. >> Oh, yeah. >> We don't want to get anybody in trouble with Sunshine Lawn violations. >> Yeah. And if any of you have it already done completed with you today, I will take it and I can make a copy for

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council. So a couple other uh chair members had did a full report on what you know they went over and kind of said hey this is the report that we talked about is what we you know at this point this is the place where you guys can all talk as a

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group obviously you can't talk a group outside about town business. So, I would suggest, hey, I would discuss what do you guys think is a priority? What would you what would you guys like for Frank to bring forward to council? Um, because he's your voice for you.

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So, that would be my suggestion is as we're here tonight, you all come as one and kind of go over your items and what you would like Mr. Shyola to bring forward. >> Did you get my email of what I >> Yes, I did. because that's pretty much more roads because I know that the

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trails are well represented um on the committee, but we definitely need to go back to getting finishing up our roads, >> getting them stabilized. And um you know, if we don't have to have a a water truck and a grater here, and if we

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needed a grater, just running it when we needed it, you know, we're going to be saving a lot of money there. You know, the whole goal is to get away from putting dirt on the roads in my opinion. And then that way that money can be spent, you know, that money can actually be freed up to do trail expansion, to do

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the crossings that we need and stuff like that. So as we get rid of one thing that we're spending money on, we can move that over to another, though. >> How could we not need a greater? We still have a lot of side dirt roads. >> Well, that's we're talking in the future. It's trying to get the trying to

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get these roads paved so that we don't need a greater. >> All of the roads paved, even side, >> even side roads. I mean, if if they want if they want it paved, you know, and um and you know, the whole goal is to try to limit the you know, what we're doing

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here. You know, as we drive down the roads and you see dust coming up, that's money that's going away and we have to replace that. >> How much money do we honestly spend in grading? I couldn't tell you the exact on what we spend in grading, but you know, we're

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budgeted roughly around 200 something thousand to, you know, as is road improvement through the town. That includes us going out doing patchwork for asphalt, putting down shell rock, you know. >> Yeah. That that is part of the, you

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know, in that number like we use that that is our operation for roadways. Would you say it's minimal compared in relation to what your budget is for? >> Um, I would say that's minimal compared to what it's costing us to pave right now.

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So, you know, what the cost is to do paving. The um the petroleum cost went up and that goes up for asphalt, dirt, everything goes up when the petroleum goes up. So, it's it's an overall plus cost everything.

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>> Yeah. You know, it's and and the other thing that we have to be mindful of is November rolls around and this property tax initiative if it passes, you know, that's going to end up being a big, you know, problem for every government. >> Correct.

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>> Local state, you know, state, everybody, not so much state, they they rely on sales tax, but for the local governments and for the counties, >> you know, they're they rely on property taxes, and that's going to be a big hit. So, you know, just something to keep in

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the back of our minds if it does pass that, you know, that some of the stuff that's being done now, you know, that may have be put on hold or actually not done at all because the money just isn't there. >> Yeah. I mean, that's state cut a lot of taxes last year, money that was funded

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to municipalities. So, that put a lot hurt on everyone. Plus, like you're saying, this homestead exemption deal that goes out, if it passes, it will hurt a lot of the local municipalities. >> I mean, for me, if this thing passes, um, by the second year, I won't pay any

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property taxes at all other than the assessments. Um, you know, so it's and there's a lot of people, anybody like us, a lot of us have been out here for, you know, 30, 35, 40 years, and we bought back when it was when it was

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reasonable. And now with the save our homes and everything, that's why our, you know, we'll we'll all not be paying taxes, which was good in one respect, >> but I know it's sort of like that co relief fund. The money's got to come from somewhere. >> Yep. >> So the little bit we're going to save in

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taxes, we're going to end up paying more in the long run. >> Well, my taxes only a little bit. I'm saying speaking, but we're gonna not pay on property tax because they're going to probably raise our sales tax or >> Well, they have to

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correct. You know, that's still the big talk in the big house down in Tallahassee. It's like if they >> Yeah. When down in Tallahassee, that's their big talk. If it comes getting cut here, are they going to push it somewhere else? That's where the House and the Senate go back and forth.

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>> Yeah. So, we're talking about roads. I would like to put on the list how to keep the trees from growing onto the roads, how to keep everybody in compliance to keep their bushes there. >> There's rust out there. >> I'm in the process. >> It's a it's an ongoing battle.

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>> Yeah. Well, I am in the very pos, you know, process of we're rewriting an entire nuisent abatement letter. everything that we can present to every homeowner that their trees that do cross that fence and come into town right away, they'll begin one. >> I have a I have a question. I guess it's

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a bigger picture question. >> Um I'm just trying to understand specifically like what what are they looking for? Because the the worksheet in my view, there's some examples in there, but it's very general. It's very like preserve the rural character of the

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town, you know, that I mean that that type of thing I think we are all on board with and a lot of the examples on there. I'm just looking to understand more specifically what what is the council looking for? Are they looking for specific items? For example, what I'm not sure who just mentioned it, but

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like trees, keeping trees off um public rideways, or are they looking for more just I don't know vision um related ideas? I mean for what I would look at is

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you know how we like we've been working on you know horse trail connectivity you know that's a big thing for the town how how can we accumulate more or accumulate the easements for it you know roadways because we are this is the

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roadway committee as well you know what roads what are we looking for to produce the roads how are we going to you know they're looking for ideas to come forward forward and what do you guys want to look forward to going with it. Another thing is I look at they should be appointing, hey, I want Rick to work

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on this. You know, they need to work on this. Well, this might be the way to get the ideas to them. Hey, this is what we want to work on. Give us the direction which way you want us to go with it. >> My thought was possibly a light on B- road or D road with a horse crossing

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flashing sign on that light striping >> at Okchobee, right? >> Okobee. I think that came up at something. >> Yes, I I >> it did, right? >> Yeah. So, we have we have pulled the um horse crossing plans that that was

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submitted from like what Wellington has across the street because they have that they actually have the horse crossing areas with the the rapid flashers and everything. I did present them to the town engineer. So, he reviewed it. He's going to give me some feedback on what yes nos what off of theirs. How can we

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implement it onto our roads cuz they have a much bigger infrastructure over there. So what how can we implement it to ours? >> Actually talking about a a regular >> street light >> street light with flashing light. >> Oh okay. >> Either on B or D. So >> where at

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>> on B or no or >> Yeah, I was just trying to think of what crossing. Yeah, >> crossing flasher there too as well. The um only thing about like Okachobee is Yeah. That's not our rideway. That's not

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our property. >> Um the big thing the big thing to kind of go to is this the 30th they had the big meeting out in Belgade about that road. So yep. On the 30th in in Belgade

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the um if you need I think I still have I have it on my phone. Um they're having one of their big meetings about the infrastructure roads for all of Oak. Huh. >> It's in the Belgade Library. Yeah. June 30th, 6:30 to 8:30.

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>> Yep. So it' be something to go to to listen because that will involve Oak Boulevard. I don't they I would they'd have to do it live probably. I don't know. >> And I would think they would record it. I I really don't know. >> Oh, no. I'll be there to

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>> be part of the discussion. because I want I want to know what they're going to do. >> The 30th is when next Thursday. >> Tuesday. >> Tuesday. >> Yeah, Tuesday. >> Um, part of the discussion is that they want to take Oachchobee and take it

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further west and then >> they want to connect it to the back of >> and and go right into one at the library here with us with Baxter. >> I have a question. It was hard. >> I was looking at the last meeting, but it was also in the paper that you were

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talking about easements on properties. You and I have discussed it, but >> Yes, ma'am. >> mentioned it here. >> Um, I know that we're considering it or talking about it, but how does that actually work? Like who approaches the because right now there's so many properties for sale. I think this is the

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time that we approach the seller because seller doesn't care, but the buyer may might care. So >> yeah, >> if they could list their property with the easement already given, then the buyer knows that >> the easiest way for the town to be able to approach is when they actually come

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in and do like a their FDA, the site plan development, we can put in the site plan development a suggestion of, hey, we want to put an easement along here. Are you subjected to actually giving the town an easement for a horse trail cross, you know, a horse trail? >> Yeah.

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>> I mean, if being >> if they're vacant land, they're vacant land. >> I mean, they're owned by somebody. Yeah. >> But actually, your whole property goes from one street to the other and their properties are for sale. So, my thought

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process is like I said, if you approach the seller and say, "Hey, if you could give us this, but does that take away the if it was like five acres, does that make it less than >> I don't want to say this. I don't know the legal answer to that cuz I don't know if it would have to come something from legal of saying they would have to

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draw up some kind of document to present it to a property owner or a buyer to say hey this is what we want you know there would be a full easement action on it >> but and does that also reduce the usable like if I have five acres and I want to give my the easement

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>> so I my understanding is on an ease when you give the easement the easement is still your property it's just an easement to the town, you still own like that five acres. >> Just allow they're letting >> you're it's just the e that is the the town to do maintenance on that easement. It's still your property. Now, if it's

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>> put any fencing on it, it's just like a power line >> just like when we're doing a road right now where those fences are where the e that's the start of the easement line. They can't put anything from that easement line coming out into the roadway. >> But it's not affecting the one to five

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>> the what? doesn't affect the one per five acre. >> No, >> because you would still own that five acres. It would it's not going to say, "Hey, you're going to lose point, you know,.11." >> Answer that question. I wouldn't I

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wouldn't mind reaching out to the realators that are listing these properties and ask them if they would >> I will I can I have a meeting with the town attorney tomorrow. We're going over budget and everything. Um I can ask him about it and see what he actually suggests on it. >> Right. Where would the liability fall

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>> as in the easement? >> That's another question I have to ask him as well. I I don't want I don't answer if I don't know the whole full answer on it. >> So, it would be if I had to say this, it would be in the actual easement document. It would say in there. So,

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that was, you know, I could I have an easement sitting on my desk right now for a property owner. >> I was saying if you were asking my easement, my first question to >> Yeah, understood 100%. It's hard on my Eastman. >> Understood. Yes, ma'am. >> And I think that's the reason they don't want to do.

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>> So, do we want to discuss the the pillars? And >> I would suggest you all discuss between the four or fivey old. I forget. Ashley's still up there. >> Yeah. He must have gotten a different form than we have here because um your number three is different than our

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number three. Number three was comm community concepts initiatives. So did you not get that one >> and honestly I never got that at all. >> Yeah. Ashley, >> can you hear me? >> Yes, I can hear you.

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>> Okay. Did you hear what I asked you? >> Was it about section three? >> Yeah. >> Uh, community concepts and initiatives. Are you guys looking at my my sheet that I submitted? Let me see what I put. >> Yeah, because you don't you didn't have it on there. So, you

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>> Yeah, I might I I Yeah, I I I tried to redo it in Word document, so it might have um dropped off. >> Okay. >> So, I can just say as I was filling out mine sitting here and reading Ashley's that I just received. I think my

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concepts and her concepts are pretty parallel. >> I think that that all of them are, you know, because Jod and I looked at each other's sitting here. So, >> and I think this is what we've all been working on on this whole time basically is everything that we've written down

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for the most part. >> Well, there's a few other things you want to talk about. >> I had a thought. Locket Gross Park. is has a soccer field and a softball field that I never see anybody use. I don't understand why we can't make that

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a pillar to make it a an arena. >> We have talked about that with them. >> I agree with you. This is a big thing that I think that um the town staff were investigating and trying to speak with the county because it's it's a county park. I'm not sure of the results from

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that. Maybe there's an update that somebody can give on that park because that's that we need to use be able to use that park for equestrian activities. >> Right. We have a lot of equestrians throughout our area. >> Not too many of these other soccer players >> and we don't have a public place that a whole bunch of private farms. Correct.

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We don't have a public farm. We've even discussed turning this little trail into like obstacle courses for the horses. >> Well, if you make an arena, you can do like an obstacle class, a trail class. Western D. You can do >> ranch trail

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races games. You can do maybe cows if the fencing is correct, >> which would also bring the community together because it would be there. You could have, you know, fundraising events. >> Yeah, >> that's one of my killers.

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>> Um, so myself and um Miss Nick McNicholas, we did meet with the actual county parks guys and everything. um they were supposed to get back with her on an update and everything. Um so we haven't heard an update since m the the slugget firm did resign from the town.

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So I'll have to reach out to the actual county guys to try to get an update from them directly because they were she was the point of contact for them. >> Greg, I actually know the assistant director for for all the the parks for Palm Beach County. back and you go forward them and

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>> you know see what we did actually talk about that in December out in Belglade at the the League of Cities [snorts] barbecue they had >> he was telling me he says you know >> uh from his end of it that the community if they want to take a park and repurpose it

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>> you know that that is it's a possibility because like anything else communities change >> correct >> people change people move in people move out and you know the parks were paid for a specific purpose many years ago, but now things have changed. So, um, you

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know, the it goes right back to he says the the biggest thing is is funding. >> You know, they have x amount of dollars allocated for each park. >> Correct. >> And you know, if they have to do something that's outside of that and most of it is basically for maintenance or replacement of equipment every now and then, >> they'd have to do a budget amendment,

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too. >> Yeah. They would have to go to the county, they have to get a budget amendment. I agree that at least the baseball field I you know I see people on there but they're running their dogs on there and stuff like that. The soccer field does get used on occasion but the baseball field I mean that would

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actually be a good start about putting some sort of you know arena there. Um you know there is an arena out here but it's in the acorage and and their their parks department ended up doing something like that. So it would be nice for us to have something like that out

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here. So you could do D or you could do roping or you could do what whatever you want to do. >> I definitely like to see the footing multi-purpose arenas are not multi-purpose. I feel like they're more geared towards the English footing and we have a lot of western

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riders out in our community. >> It takes 30 minutes to drive from my house to Nicole Hornstein Park to and my granddaughter to train. 30 minutes. And it's not exactly free diesel either. >> One way. >> Yeah. One way. I mean it's Jody go. We

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all go there. She has a big giant thing >> and that's on a good day. >> Yeah. Yeah. Don't go at four o'clock. >> And it is called Lockx a Hatchi Grove Park. >> It is. It's been >> so it should cater to the community. Now if funding is an issue, can we fund raise? >> That's what I was thinking. We got

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>> Yeah. I couldn't answer for them. I don't know how they would be able to how you could fund to them. that would be something with them because that's their property. They're >> the first thing is get them to where they agree that yes, that's a possibility. If they say no, it's our park, we're not going to do anything with it, we're we're out of gas, you

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know, and the only other thing that we can do and they actually did come many years ago when we first incorporated the town and they said, "How would you like to take over the park?" And the town said, "Nope." >> Because they didn't want the maintenance hassles to go with that. So you know

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that's you know that's another thing but I mean it's for you know it's just starting a discussion with them and I think that's the important thing is starting the discussion and staying with the same people and not having to be handed off to different people because I see that in government that it may start

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with with five of us and then a month later it's handed off to a different group and they're going wait a second we now we got to start from scratch again. >> I understand. I think they should also be reminded that park does need a facelift regardless of whether we put an arena there or they

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just give it a facelift. It's not been >> Jody I think maybe you defined what you mean by arena because they're layman you know in layman's terms what arena means. Well, I'd like to throw something into that. Nicole Hornstein, they're just panels. Like that arena over there,

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that's not any posts in the ground type thing. Those are just metal panels literally connected together around there. That's not >> basically that some dirt and some seats, right? >> I mean, it's not like >> I mean, people can bring their >> Is that arena? So that when they have stuff at night.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> but they're solar. They walk upstairs with a clicker like this. We're not talking about like >> nothing fancy >> like wet. We're just talking like an arena. >> Okay. This >> So Katie's Katie's donating an acre. >> Yeah, there you go. I already said we

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would do it. >> So, and and if we can just um every meeting if we could please put this specific initiative on our agenda to hear an update from the town. Um I mean, if I I'm happy to get involved and try

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to push the issue and talk to people as well. I think that this would really um making this park more equestrian friendly, either an arena, enhanced trailer parking, wash racks, whatever, something more equestrian related would

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really enhance um the town. Um so if we could just please keep that as a pin on every single agenda because I want to keep that initiative moving forward. And I think the important thing is with this with this

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particular issue is that we need to see if the town council is behind us. If they're not behind us on this, then it's really not going to go anywhere. >> Now, for nothing, our trails connect to that park as well. So, that would be another connectivity.

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>> I actually went and rode it. I I saw you that day, I think, I parked at the park with the baseball field and rode to the one behind Alb's. with the crossing only happened one bridge. I was a little scared, but we did it. I've done it a couple times

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since then. >> You're strong. >> Well, I'm still here. Let's put it back there. No trucks for adding on to the button. >> Crossing light there. >> Yeah. So that's another like I said once the town engineer approves that actual

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horse crossing that I presented to him we can implement that into redoing that whole entire area as a crossing there like we had spoked we' have to re one of the big ones is going to be fro and collecting because that we did add an actual crossing over the new cover bridge as well so you won't have to go

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on pavement you'll just stay on grass the whole time. >> Yeah >> I didn't I have not seen that. >> That looks really nice. It's kind of weird how the how the pipe is on an angle. It's >> Yeah, it's because we when we widen the whole intersection, we had to push that

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pipe out the other way. >> Water flows one way or another. >> On that thing there, when is the plan to go ahead and and uh and pave that that over? >> So, I'm presenting a uh change order to council. So, because I want to redo the

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whole intersection, repave it. um it was not put into the original plan by the the previous um management um previous engineer. So I'm presenting a change order to council so we can redo the repave the entire intersection. That intersection actually it does dive down.

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So we want to level the whole thing up, bring it up so the water won't sit anywhere in the center anymore. Um it didn't sit a lot but it did all run to one point in that intersection. So we're going to raise the whole thing up as long as it's approved. Then also while

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we're on the conversation, can you tell us what is being worked on as because I didn't know anything about the B-roll crossing or the bridge crossing crosswalk that you were just talking about the sign? >> Oh, the sign >> on D road I

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>> So what else is going before we put it on? >> So So my plans is to redo the one at at C and collecting. See and collecting because there's only that one flasher there. There's a put to put a flashard on all three corners on

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all three inways to the intersection. Same thing would be for F and collecting. There would be one for every single road. A rapid flasher. So if Miss Jody comes down there and she's going to cross right there. When it hits it, lights up every single road that comes to that intersection. So everyone will

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know that she's coming in. Be behind Publix. That one as well. Um the committee did ask for one to be put at um the concrete bridge right there going over towards public works at D road and Tangerine. >> Yeah.

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>> Yep. At D and Tangerine. So those were like some of the main crossings that was asked for. >> So those are in in the works. >> So once the town engineer does approve it, we'll buy the signs and we'll start in doing the installs. >> Are there things that they're you're working on? uh through the whole town or

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just in question >> just related to the pillars to to our question. >> So um obviously everyone knows a road we're we're steadily working on a-ro um we're getting down to the final wire. We put all the shell rock down and everything on a road.

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Um one of the other big things once we get done with a road as I told y'all before we get done with that we're going to tackle North Road Trail. That's the big push. You know we're going to do the North Road Trail. We're going to go from that to knocking that out. Um, we do

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have some covert pipes through the town that are town smaller cover pipes that do go into our roadway. That's another, you know, initiative like for for us is to get away from being a giant contractor is my plan and pushing forward, you know, as us doing a road. We're like a giant contractor. We're do

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we're doing contractor work is to get back to maintenance. Do general maintenance through the town. Start nitpicking all the maintenance. getting the town back to maintenance instead of these giant CIP projects that are overwhelming to most of our staff.

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>> Um, as far as maintenance, you and I discussed a little bit about cleaning of the canals. >> Correct. Yep. So, that's going to be it's going to be annual thing for our guys to go around um to clean out the canals. It's kind of impossible to stop people from throwing everything in there, >> but there's a lot of >> can't chase them. >> Brass growing in there preventing the

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flow, too. So here >> do we still have the guy that sprays the >> Yep. They're on the north end this week. The guy was there this morning. I saw him leaving our shop at like 6:45. >> Sometimes I see them all the time and then I don't see him for lunch. >> Yeah. So now >> I don't think it's anything that they're

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doing. I think it's just my time. >> Yeah. You're just very observant >> because a lot of the things that you're telling us now are on these pillars that collectively that we're discussing. >> Okay. Um, another one of my big plans is that I do have on council's next meeting

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is to renew a piggyback for guard rails to start utilizing the the contractors to start coming in and start replacing guardrails to the whole town. Um, in particular the one right by you, it's crushed, been crushed, >> keeps getting crushed. >> Yep. Is to renew to go around and we can

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start renewing the the guardrails around all the canal banks, you know, at the intersections. That's one of the that's one of the big plans is to start pushing >> once we get that going. We're going to start having a contractor come out and just start replacing them because I for me it's a I feel it's a big liability

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and safety issue for me. >> Speaking of safety issues, are those lights like wicked expensive? Because that intersection I'm telling you I always pick on it. But where you cross by Dorsy's that's scary. You know when you're going down E road and then you're

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gonna go in North Road >> where E connects into South Road right there. >> What it's called? >> Yeah, it's the corner by my house. >> Yeah, >> they run the they run the stop signs all the time >> everywhere in the town. That's what they do. >> Yeah, >> that one's a scary though because it's over here.

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>> Yeah, you can't see it. Yeah, >> it's a freeway, too. But it's only >> um I don't know if you wanted to put a horse crossing there cuz there no actual like trail going into it. The only thing would be going on to E- Road behind the canal bank there.

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>> The signs have really made a difference. Okay. As far as slowing down, um, I suggest maybe putting a sign at that corner that she's talking about, like right there at the stop sign or right where the arrows, you know, the end of E before you go this way E or this way to north because they don't see the sign

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until they're already on North Road. The first sign is right in front of Ray's house. >> Okay. And stop. >> So that maybe put a sign at that intersection. >> It might help. But I they I don't >> I mean from the south going north. >> Yeah. At that they stop there. They have to go left or right. Mhm. >> If you put it right at that

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intersection, that might help because that's where the the trail comes. >> Yeah. Wraps around the canal. >> The bridge. >> That's where Katie's talking about. But yeah, it's crazy there. And that's actually the school bus hit that guard rail. >> Oh, they hit the guards everywhere in this town. It's crazy.

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>> Ashley, do you want to say anything? I see you sitting there bouncing around a little bit. >> Well, thank you. We just started driving again, but I was just >> I wish. Um, so I was I was maybe thinking while you were discussing that, maybe putting a sign that says like

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blind curve or blind driveway slow drive >> to slow there you go. Blind drive. That way people are a little bit more cautious when they see that sign. They're like, "Oh, you know, I can't see around that." So I would suggest that uh to help in addition to the equestrian

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crossing sign. >> And I'm sure that house is going to get a letter about the foliage. Everybody, >> when when you were talking about just about the guard rails, have you thought about putting concrete K rails there

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instead of metal guard rails? >> Because when the Krails, what happens is that they're concrete and you can actually the the vehicles actually drive up up on the side of them and it drops them back down and it doesn't crush the the the K rails. >> We could look into it. I just never

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actually seen one of those out here. Well, yeah. I would have to see what the cost of that would be compared to guardrail. >> That's why they have them on the interstates and terminal and stuff like that because you hit them and it brings you up and then it brings you back down instead of going over the top of them. >> Understood. Yeah. I know a lot of those

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are like one piece. They pour all those as one solid piece. >> I mean, if they if they ever wide Noachchobee, I would be pushing for that by our canal crossings because that's >> you know these trucks. I actually saw a truck grab one of them, go over it. The

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trailer grabbed it and they dragged the guardrail down. >> It did right there at Dro. >> Yeah. And the sheriff's office was right behind him with their lights on. The guy's like, "What are you talking about? What did I do?" >> Yeah. >> The the semi actually went and turned and when he turned his trailer, the DOT

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part bumper actually hooked the guardrail. when he turned when the trailer kicked out and it hooked, he didn't realize he was hooked to it until he started actually like going down Okchobee and he saw the thing >> like a snake behind him. >> So, back to the the pillars here. Um, section one is defining rural. I think

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we're all on the same page with this one. Um, does anybody want to add what I'm just reading what what was submitted by uh Ashley? I think [clears throat] we're all on the same page with that. Yeah, it only took three only took three years for the town council to define

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rural when we first incorporated. >> So yeah, that's something that for for me defining rural that's already been defined. I don't you know I can't see where >> they're asking us for it. So that's what we're we're trying to submit this to the town.

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>> So no industrial commercial businesses throughout her town. >> It's on my little list. Yeah. Yeah. I put like um >> family or like family family businesses. It would be nice if little country restaurant or something like that would be nice.

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>> Um I wrote country setting, low residential, open space, sense of community, farmland, family businesses, no big bug. >> I was wondering if the franchises that are going all down Southern Boulevard, if the council could say no more franchises, let's only have

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mom and pop shop. believe that would come up to council and PCB >> part of our pillar looking rural >> and the facades of the buildings should >> Yeah, >> they I will say that the planning zoning

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is very strict on the the royal look. >> I know that they >> and I look at across the street those look very rural to me. Yeah, they brought they did I in our last meeting they had for a upcoming business they were you know the planning zoning was very pushy on hey have green you have to

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have this and >> like boutique hotels rather than big franchise hotel >> okay >> more like boutique mom and pop restaurants >> you know approved instead >> I I was uh me and my wife went to plant city yesterday for the day and on the

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way back we took one way going there and another way back we ended up coming State Road 17 um out of Barto >> and it's not it was a nice drive and everything but unfortunately those small towns like Zoful Springs, Arcadia,

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uh Bowling Green and all that, they're they're expanding out. Those aren't small towns anymore. They're actually becoming bigger and bigger because people are moving to the interior part of the state. And we actually stopped in Arcadia, you know, for for um uh dinner

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last night. And when I got in Arcadium like that, this is the Arcadia remember from 5 years ago. All of a sudden, we go we start heading on 70 heading east and there's a brand new Arcadia there and it's all like like us this the Publix

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and all these shopping centers and you can see it's you have the old old part and then all of a sudden there's a brand new part there and and you can see that farmland is for sale as it gets further and further east of there. So this is not just our problem. This is a problem that's happening throughout the state in

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these small towns. >> I know, but this is my small town. >> Yeah. No, I I >> we're trying to keep it small. >> You know what I'm saying? I I'm I see that all the time and I you know, but the only thing I can do is make a little difference in my little town. >> I mean, we had we were in Plant City

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yesterday and yeah, the new Plant City coming into there, they really expanded out towards State Road 60. when we got into downtown that was that's the plant city I remember I hadn't been there for like 30 years >> and uh we in a restaurant that was built

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the the building was built in 1882 >> you know so yeah and and I was just commenting on the way back I'm like you know this is the exact same problem we're having locks is that everybody wants to come in and build all this stuff and and I was

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actually talking to to a gentleman that um I know He's got a cattle ranch out there. I know of him. And he said the same thing. He goes, "You know what?" He says, "When he first had his cattle ranch, he inherited from his father. His grandfather had it." And they said, "There is no way anybody's ever going to

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build out here." Well, that no way is going because they're within two miles of his cattle ranch. And they've actually had people come out to him say, "Hey, do you want to sell your frontage on each side of the road?" >> Remember they said the same thing about the Acres hatch. There'll never be a gas station out there. Yeah,

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>> I was growing up. That was a thing. There'll be never be a gas station. What's out there now? >> Um, >> so section two is a strategic pillars. Does anybody have anything to add to that? >> Well, I think that sort of falls into limiting what they're going to do, but it's not really our, you know what I

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mean? That doesn't fit our roads and trails >> and greens and greenway, >> right? You know what I mean? Like to to put us into that sentence is a little different. Well, it says identify three to four major strategic pillars that support the town's overall vision,

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quality of life, and protection of residential property values. And then the examples are rural preservation. >> Well, I think the horse park would be if we could get an arena over there, that would help so much because then that would put us on the map, so to speak as an equestrian.

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>> Maybe bring up 4 coming in. >> I love I did it last year. You know where I did it after write that down because we're going to give it to Frank to submit to the >> I wrote it down in my >> So, do you want all you want all this on one paper or do you want everybody's papers? >> Um, everybody's papers and we can put

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them together and >> Okay. >> into uh you know, bullet points and um and I can go ahead and I can send that back out to Well, I don't know if I can send it back. I give it to I can give it to Craig or whatever to town administration and send it back out and

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just make sure that everybody likes the bullet points and and they're on board with it and and even though Mr. Frank uh Mr. Shyola is the chair, you know, as all y'all are, you know, allowed to come to the workshop. It is open to the public. It is open to all

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y'all. So, I mean, if the whole committee wanted to come and voice and talk and council is not against you all, you know, coming in and being able to talk all at once. >> And I would actually prefer that because it shows that we're unified >> and not one person speaking. That one

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person may be speaking for it, but we're all standing there and we're all saying we're in agreement on what we're saying. >> You know when that is? >> A little young lady over here would know. the next work. >> I believe it's July 21st. It's in the

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memo is the next workshop meeting and they happen at 6. >> Maybe I may be in Georgia when that uh when that happens. Do that again. We can get the vice chair to go. >> Long as she's not in Hawaii [laughter]

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still. >> I will be um in route home. I'm getting I'm getting back to Lockachi the 27th. Um so I can't guarantee that I'll be able to appear by Zoom um on the 21st. I have to check my

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schedule, but I will endeavor to do it. Uh but it will have to be by Zoom for May. >> Okay. So the the question would be if Miss K or Miss Ashley is not able to, Mr. Frank's not able to um would the committee appoint someone to do this

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presentation for the committee >> and that's July 21st and when the workshop is >> then that's what Yeah. >> Yeah. >> because our next meeting would be July 16th. >> So there'll be another meeting before. >> So we'd have a meeting the week before

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that. >> Yes. They do it right here in this table. >> 6 p.m. Yeah. Guess I'm being nominated by default. >> Yeah, I mean I would say as a group you all come to a consensus of saying, "Hey, we

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>> don't think it's >> like one. >> Why don't we turn all our notes into the person that's coming to the meeting or to you?" >> Um, so the notes would come to me and Gab. Yeah, I can take whatever you guys have today, but I would maybe if there's

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also going to be another meeting, you guys can bring it to the other meeting as well. >> Yeah, >> if you want it >> to the other. >> It's a week before. Yeah. >> Is that okay? Yeah. >> Or can I would like to think about it and do it again.

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>> So, you can do you if you want to hold on to it because like I said, the next meeting is not till the 21st or the You said 21st. So, it's on the 21st. So, if you want to take it home and >> rewrite rewrite the whole thing, if you need an actual copy, I can go make a a

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blank copy for you real quick. >> Oh, that's very good. >> Or or guys, let me volunteer. I'm happy to consolidate everybody's ideas onto one sheet before our next meeting and then maybe at our next meeting then we

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can go over it as a final a final draft because what I submitted uh was just a very very short draft. It wasn't anything intended to be final. So that that's what I would suggest. Maybe we consolidate everything and then over during our next meeting we we go over

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it. we officially, you know, approve it, if you will. And then who who's ever going to be going to the July 21st meeting, then that it's a little bit more um it's easier because then they have everything together. >> Um as long as it's not a violation of

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the sunshine law. Yes. >> Yeah. I would say they'd have to get presented. They would have to get sent to me. >> Yeah. >> Or Gabby. And then um >> you'll send them to >> Yeah. I'd have to see how we'd send them to Ash. >> Yeah. By next meeting you guys would also have the minutes of this meeting.

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So if that's helpful to Ashley as well when concising it. >> Well I would even know with the minute some of the stuff probably all on there their things aren't like being >> discussed >> discussed there might be some smaller things that actually make it take and she can throw it into AI or whatever and

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consolidate everything down and >> she doesn't use AI. Ashley doesn't need >> our use. >> Um I have a question too. You had asked for the emails about the road names and stuff like that. >> We sent the names trail names the trails

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trails and stuff. >> So I would add that to this >> because we I know I sent >> Yeah, you sent it to me. Well, that was kind of like all in this in the beginning and then after we had spoke, we kind of had our meeting before the pillars like whole thing came out. >> So I would consolidate that with this

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actual document. So then we can put it all as one like hey this is what we're suggesting for horse trails this is what the names we want and we can all put it as one. >> So then we have to decide on which names that we want with the trails. >> Correct. Then it would be a full >> as a committee

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>> committee. Correct. >> I think I already submitted that to you. >> Right. I'm sure they're all different. So we haven't seen each other's. So we can either just have it at the next meeting in the minute and we can put it in the packet and then you all can discuss them from there.

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>> That' be great. >> Okay. But I think I only received one too. And if I would suggest >> that's all Franks I get little misses. >> Yeah, mine's very >> I would suggest putting them all in one list, not not individualizing who

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submitted them. So we can just make a >> consensus instead of like oh that was you know >> AI does wonders. >> Meanwhile, we don't want the data center here but you >> stop using it. [laughter]

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>> That data center doesn't go off of just that. The data center goes off a lot more than just that. >> I'm kidding. >> Yeah, >> it I imagine it's a very good tool, but it's just I don't >> It has a play out there either. >> It has, like you said, it has a place. >> Has a place, but now kids are writing

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their papers with AI and then the teachers having AI grade them. So AI is grading itself. >> Yeah. So they they did build one for college that if when you submit like your your thing and they run it through it to see if it was actually written by AI or not. They do that. Even Even at

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Seminal Ridge, they do that. >> Correct. I know. I make sure my son doesn't do it. >> So, we're going to go in and fill the paperwork out, send it to you. >> Yep. >> And then you're going to port it. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> So, >> and just for the record, if you guys

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consolidate them down >> so we don't have to do it again. >> Go ahead. I was just going to say if if you guys could use my AOL email address and not my law firm one. The law firm one goes to my entire firm. Um so I you know I want to try to keep things more

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confidential. So you can just send it to my AOL. Craig, >> Miss Gabby, do you have her? >> I can provide it to you guys. >> Uh you would provide it. You would provide it to them. >> Oh, you would provide it provide it to you >> to me and Cammy after this

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>> actually. you um you'll actually get it from the town. You won't get it directly from us. >> It would come from me or uh Cammy or Gabby. >> Just so everyone just everyone knows, Miss Cammy here will be taking over um Miss Gabby's position in the clerk's

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here for the rec. So, m Miss Cammy works for me. She's my admin down in public works. So, it kind of gives us more of like a one-on-one of she hears what's going on and she can help me kind of put things together and stuff that helps. So we can kind of keep it all as one. Um we're doing it with all the committees

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as well. So for the other committees they have Miss Karen Karen Garner Young. Her admin is actually going to be the clerk for her and all her committees as well. So they kind of work together tandem. >> You have a sec. >> Yes, ma'am.

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>> Okay. So um we're done with with that. Anybody else have anything about the pillars of strategic planning that we haven't covered right now? Moving on to committee member meetings. Katie, we'll start with you. >> What do you want to do? >> Comments.

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>> Committee member comments. >> Any more comments? >> You're being very quiet this time. >> Jody, >> good. >> Darcy, >> I think I've already said, >> Ashley, >> hi there. I just have one. Um, I guess for scheduling future meetings, it's

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been asked that we don't schedule I think it's on the the Thursday because the LGA also has meetings tonight that maybe some of the members in that group might want to attend here. So, I just want to be aware that we don't overchedu on the

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LGA uh meeting schedule. >> Correct. Yeah, they meet on the fourth Thursday over at the church. and me. I really don't have anything. I think everything's been said. I agree. So, uh, confirmation of next meeting

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day, July 16th, 2026 at 5:00 p.m. Is everybody good with that? >> Is that >> When do they meet? The third. >> They meet the fourth Thursday of the month. That's because we moved ours back one Thursday because we wouldn't have a quorum last week.

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>> So, that's why we moved it to this week. >> Now that we have Miss Ashley on, she can help us make the quorum. I think I'm okay with that day. >> Ashley, are you okay with July 16th via Zoom? >> By Zoom. Yes, I'll be by Zoom. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Okay. Um motion to adjurnn. >> To adjourn. >> Second. >> I'll second. Okay, journ. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> Thanks, guys. >> See you soon. >> Bye. >> Thanks. >> Bye. Just make