the meeting to order for the October 2nd, 2025 roadway trails and greenway advisory committee. Great. Uh so we can all rise for the pledge of
allegiance, please. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Uh, roll call, please.
Chair Frank Shaola, present. Vice Chair Darcy Deed Murray. Committee member Katie Lakeman. and committee member Ashley Bruce. And then uh public works superintendent Craig Lowour.
And then assistant to the town clerk Gabriela Crosdale present. Very good. We have a quorum. Uh any additions, deletions, or modification to the agenda. Yeah, I have two. Just the presentation on the PSA for equestrian safety and
then also the minutes. I gave you guys the minutes up there. Those are the minutes from um is it a August 21st and July? Is it 17th or 19th um to approve those minutes? Okay.
And then those are the modifications. So, we'll do the uh we'll approve the minutes first. We'll put that as number one. And we'll do the equestrian safety because the young ladies have to get back to doing homework. We don't want to.
So that we're going to make minutes. Number one, the equestrian and safety. Number two, discussion solar ports. Number three, approval of multi-purpose trail signs. Number four, update on Okchobee Boulevard grant. Number five. Do I have a motion and a second to
accept the updated agenda? Motion to accept the agenda as Do I have a second? Second. Okay. Any other public comment on that? Okay. Hearing none. All in favor? I.
All oppose. Motion carries 3 to zero. Okay. So, next we're going to do minutes. Do I have a motion to accept the minutes from July 17, 2025? Motion to accept minutes as read from July 27th, 2025.
Second. Okay, that no July 17th. I'm sorry. July 17th. Great. And we have a motion, a second. Any public comments on that? Seeing none, all in favor? Second by saying I.
I. All opposed. Motion passes. Three to zero. Great. We're moving along. Okay. Uh, agenda item number two, equestrian safety. Mary. Okay. So,
do you want me to present the video? Okay. Now or after? So, uh, Reagan and I have been working hard at making the video. She's been editing. a little closer to the mic because people may be watching and they may want to hear. All right. Um, so Re and I have been
working hard on the video. I took care of the production side and she has been editing it. We have recently uh finished the first drafts of the videos and so we wanted to show this to you and then also um ask if there's any needs be any
changes and then following that double uh double check and confirm that the preferred methods of being like do you want a 30 secondond and a 1 minute? Do we want it just for one version and then also like a social media version? all of that. So, we can edit those and then
that'll be the finalization of the project. Okay. Yes. So, you can probably Yeah. share uh the things belong to grows, a small but scary community. It's home to many things, but
most importantly, horses. Given how integrated the communities are with horses, it's important for those just passing by to help maintain the community safety. Lots of hatching groves is in a quest for So, always be on the lookout for horses and horse riders, especially if you see
a sign. Make sure to make eye contact with the rider and keep an eye out for hand signals they might use in crossing sections like this one. Practice defensive driving. When approaching and passing a horse or horse trailer, stop for direction or lower your speed to 10
miles hour. When leaving, slowly speed up after you have been instructed to and safely pass to avoid startling the Lockachi Groves contains outside trails, so it's important to practice caution to prevent riders or horses from ending up
in them. Avoid honking, rubbing your engine, or any other loud noises. Not scar the horse. Horses may make sharp right turns due to their size, so give them a wide birth and be prepared
to stop to avoid a burning. Make sure to follow the law to keep our community safe. For more information, contact the town of Lockmachi Groves via our phone number, website, or social media. That was the first one. And then the
second one she's going to pull up. Here in Los Angeles, horses aren't just part of our landscape. They're part of our way of life. Whether you are trail riding, crossing the road, or just enjoying the outdoors, safety should always come first for you and your horse. Before you ride, make sure your
tack and equipment are properly fitted and in good condition. Helmets aren't just for beginners. They save lives, no matter your skill level. When riding near roads, wear bright or reflective clothing. Use designated crossings when available, and always assume drivers might not see you. Make eye contact when
possible and never ride in low visibility without lights or reflectors. Share the trail responsibly. Let others know when you're approaching. Pass slowly and always keep your horse under control. If you are walking with dogs or biking, be aware of nearby horses and
give them space. And remember, hydration, rest, and knowing your hor's limits are key to safe, enjoyable rides. This message is brought to you by the town of Locks Hache Groves. Respect the ride. protect our horses and let's keep
our community safe together. [Music] All right. So, are there any changes or things you wanted to make? And then again, what are the other versions that you guys had wanted? And if you want, Reagan's also on the Zoom, so she could
probably unmute and say whatever. Who wants to start off? I think it's wonderful. I don't have any to add at all. I think it's great. I liked both of them where the one perspective was the rider was the road safety, which is like what the most
important thing for me, and then the other perspective was the rider and you know, make sure your attack is safe and all of that. So, um, I thought that both perspectives were great and I don't have I don't see where there's any changes needed to be made. I
think it's great. I thank you for for the hard work. There was a lot of work that went into this, not only by you, but I when I went by when they were doing some filming, I saw a large a large contingent out there. So, that was great. Um, you know, so I think the um
Do we need to vote on this to to move it forward? Right. I don't think you do. No, I don't think so. If you like it, we like it. And does this go to the council for any kind of approval? Um, no, it doesn't need to go to the council for approval, but I think we
should certainly show it to them. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing job. Thank you. Thank you very very much. And and uh did this did this go for um does this go for credits with your uh TV production? I
could show him, but I don't know how what they'll say. Well, if he has any questions, tell him to call me. Okay. So, another thing we want to thank Reagan. Thank you, Reagan. Yes, Reagan. So, I know you're silent over there, but you're busy at school. I'm sure you're
getting ready for the weekend, right? She's like getting ready for the football game. Yes, she is getting ready for the football game. We know it. But we also want to thank and Tamson, we were going to say this earlier is that the mayor, Anita Kaine, was there. Um, we had Darcy
Murray, we had Ashley Bruce and her family. Um, we had Frank stopped by at Se Road and we took pictures of you. I don't know how it got edited out, Frank, but sorry about that. You were one of those great great cars going by. Thank
you for slowing down and thank you Katie for your whole family coming out too because it really really helped a lot, didn't it? Yeah, they were great. Your mom came and their new that was her puppy in there. Beautiful. Yes. What kinds of things? She's a bar. She was very terrified of
the horses, but we're very appreciative of the time that both of you put into this. I know it's a lot of time and also for everybody that that took time out. this is was a collaborative effort and it's good to get this out there so that hopefully
people will see it and they will learn as the whole goal of this. I I would like to say thank you to everybody um the committee, the mayor, both of you wonderfully talented young ladies and most of all to Miss Mary
McNicholas who put this whole thing together for us. Mary was definitely he was our producer. It was a team effort but [Music] Yep. Nothing happens without team. Thank you, ladies. Thank you.
Committee and mayor. Yes. So, did you want to make a shorter version of the video or just leave it at that? I think I like it. I think leave it just the way it is. You guys did a great job. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Be um at the October meeting. That's awesome. council, we got something done finally. We got get and that's the goal of of of our committee is getting things done and not just talking about it.
Great. Thank you. Okay. Um Moving on to agenda item number three, discussion on solar sport trails. Great. Thank you all by the way for the wonderful celebration. Oh, and happy birthday. So everybody knows. Thank you. Thank you. I'm leaving now
and Solar Sports. Thank you. We have representative from Solar Sports here. I'm leaving these for you all. I don't want to take it if it's not Okay. So, our representative um
Yes. Yes. If if you want to sit down if that helps you out and just share Craig's mic. But good news. Diane Jenkins for Solar Sports. Is it on? Yes. Great. Um I'm here just to help with
whatever you asked um if I would come and maybe discuss a few things and that's why I'm here. So we had remember we had had all the questions of the signs we wanted to put in the um garbage cans, the roofs and
stuff. So she she did agree with all of them. Um, her one concern was that she wouldn't have employees or personnel to, you know, go empty trash cans throughout the park. So, that would have to be something that, um, we'd have to
come up with to designate a staff member to go out there and empty cans of where trash is. Um, she had no problem with us naming the trails. Correct. I'd love to hear your ideas on that, too. that kind of had, you know, you'd ask to if I can bring her in to get her
to see what we name the trails. Um, whatever you'd like to throw at her, whatever ideas you have. Put you on the spot this time. I know Darcy named. But isn't Darcy on? Yeah, that's right. No. No, I don't think so.
Darcy didn't jump on with it. I thought she was supposed to be zooming tonight. Oh, she said she was going to try, I think. Yeah. One of the items too, we had had these signs done and we need to put them up. And I also have signs that say
wetlands area um keep out or beware or whatever. So that we I really think that and Katie, I know she rides the trail and she would know better than anybody and maybe you could help me. Um, we need to put some signs up for direction, I
think, because a couple times I've seen horses maybe not where they're supposed to be. Um, and I just want to make sure that everybody stays on the trail where it's safe, especially now when we're kind of coming up to our last phase. And so we're moving east from where we are
now with the construction. And so there'll be a lot of heavy equipment and all out there with the final roads that go in. So I certainly want to make sure that nobody goes the wrong way. She she did state that um you said you
were putting a water station in. We are. So I'm sure probably most of you know that we traded sites. Originally the town common site was going to be right across from um Palm Beach Orthopedic Institute and is now going to
be further back. So it will be like surrounded by the trail. So, it's going back to what on our original site plan was pod G. Um, and so we are putting a watering um trough in there. We are putting um some benches and things
around where there's a there's a pretty wetlands area there where people could sit and rest and all. I'm sure there's going to be a hitching post and things so that people have the opportunity to to kind of stop and relax. Um, and I think, and this is terrible, but I'm not
sure of the status of that with the council for their approval of the site plan. Um, only because I just have been kind of on the on the surface on that one, but I think a site plan has been submitted and I'm just not sure where that is in the approval process. Sorry.
But I would certainly say that it's something that you all should take a look at. I did a little clean up there one time and um a fellow came on a golf cart and said he picks up the trash once a week. Is that still something that's done? I don't know where who he works
for. I didn't know that. Wow. I have no idea who that could be. That's so funny. Man with a golf cart and he works for somebody in there. Sure. Was it my guys? Sure. Yeah. I'd sent him over there after we had talked up one day. Oh,
I have to admit, I'd sent my guys in there to kind of go up and down the canal bay and clean up a lot of stuff around there and around the the general area. And when you do see things, and I know Katie, sometimes you've reached out, which is massively helpful. We're not I'm in the commercial area, you know,
I'm not back on the trail. And so, we have um a company that comes in to take care of everything and to trim back the branches when they're too low. I mean to yeah when they're coming down too low towards the horses and but if you let me know anytime I mean they're they're so nice and everybody probably knows the
bush hog people anyway. Um and you know they they come back out if they if we need something or something done. I just don't always see it and if you're out there you would see it more quickly than I would. I have your card. I appreciate that.
and the town could give you all my info too anytime any and you're always welcome to call my cell too. It's very easy. So, is this a kind of sign you're going to plan to use for other trails? Um, yes and no. Um, one of our signs
that they're actually going to be going over tonight is actually a full rule sign, kind of a more detailed version of that. Okay. Um, but that is one that they have been looked at. They've looked at that one. So, it's one that we have to fully agree
on what sign we're actually going to put out there in all the trails. Okay. Do you want to hang on to this one? One of those. Yes. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Think that all the more signs almost even though it does take away from the natural look is probably better because
as you know Diane, there's still fights in there and you know I mean this can they take it they knock the fence down now. because you know it was pretty blocked off on that SE road west area and now it's not because the fence
I'm always happy when I make it through the weekend and didn't have to talk to the sheriff's office about the dirt bikes I can't tell you we can chase him out of there as well the whole thing can be possible and then that would be keep on keeping on. I guess
we want it to be nice and we want everybody to enjoy it and you know I I think especially as you're trying to do more things with other trails and connect them. What a it's just a great opportunity for people. So I hope you continue going along that route. Yeah.
What what what what are your ideas about the trails and Well, I mean, I think just initially the signs I think the more signs the better. And so I know that you had other signs you brought up and you you I think you sent me pictures of them previously. So whatever signs that you have, I would
say give them to Craig so that we can we can talk about placing them, you know, wherever we need to place them. And truthfully, that's my problem. I mean, I have a bunch of those wetland signs, right? I think we need some directional signs, but I don't know what they should look like or how they should
be. So, input from you all would be great on stuff like that, too. Um, and are you guys just wanting an arrow? Well, I think that you because I I haven't been back through that area fully. Um, but you know, there I'm sure there's more than one trail in there and I'm
sure there's they do they intersect or whatever. I'm not sure. I think we've been there lots of times, right? But here's the thing. Even going there all these times, I'm not 100% on where we're supposed to be or not supposed to be. So,
and you're right, because some people take the turn there. You should like take a turn and if you don't go the right way, then you're either up against the fence or you're getting maybe too close to one of the canals and one of the retention areas. Um, so I think we
just I I just I sort of think of probably a map of the area like an aerial so that we can if there's a couple trails in there, we can designate them red trail, blue trail or what, however we decide to name them. And and anything else you can have the
the wetlands and things like that. And um and maybe once we have that, there can be a like a weatherproof um sign or something like that that's at each entrance or whatever. for three or four entrances saying so people are going to look at say this is where you go this where you don't go cuz
I was over there with um last month and I was uh over at Lake Lockxe and I had my fireboat in the water and um and there were some horses that came right by me and then they went right down into the into the water catchment area down there and that obviously that's not
where you're supposed to ride horses at even though it was dry you know you don't want to tear everything up in there and they were having a good old time in there and then they went back up went to another water catchment area and and I don't think they'd be able to do it now. It's a little wet back there. But, you know, it's just there. Yeah,
signs would help out because right now um that's the big problem I think that the sheriff's office has is that there's really no signs there saying no motorized vehicles or, you know, no horses or, you know, wetlands area because they can't they they can't
enforce it if it's not. already have those and that's a big plus. You know what I mean? Those are readily available. Yes, absolutely. And I I think there's a sign too at the entrance off of C- Road at that main entrance that is a more detailed sign. Problem is people don't
always come in that way obviously, you know. So, and uh B Road I don't think there's anything on there's nothing at B Road and there's nothing there's nothing over behind the professional building that was built. there's a there's a um an area where you
can get vehicles through or whatever where the curb goes down, but there's nothing there, you know, and I actually, you know, went back there and my daughter's going, "Are we supposed to be back here?" I go, "There's no signs. There's nothing they can do." I mean, honestly, if if I if the sheriff's
office said, "Well, you'd have to get off or whatever. It's private property. Where's the signs?" Right? And they're going, "We can't enforce it." And that's that's the problem that that they have. Like even at the trail head, which I call trail head where I was speaking about where they knocked the whole thing down, the C road part. I
mean, even if you had one of those type signs there, one at the bridge, one at the crossing on B road, at least we would be able to say you're not allowed to be in here with this formula, right? No, it great thoughts and and um unfortunately it doesn't say no homeless
on this because we've been having a few problems with people creating their own camp. When I was cleaning up out there, I was like, "This looks like somebody could live here." Yes. Yes. We've had that issue a few times. Obviously, those things go away as the
rest of the project's completed. Um, and some of the issues of kind of getting lost on the trails I think go away too, but right now forever they they need to be good signs with directional signs. Be good for right.
So, what for a start, you know, putting one at each access point would be a start, you know, and then at least like I said, the police come and get safe, but they're not supposed to be here. Yeah. No, great thoughts.
So, we um what's what's the direction we want to go here? A map. Definitely. We need a map. Identify the trails. And if there's more than one trail back there, we need to identify them somehow so that people aren't just going around in a loop or
whatever and and um and what kind of signage and where we wanted to go. It really should just be one the way it is on the plans. It's one trail. It's just that it winds a lot because we took it through some of the areas, you know, by the wetlands and things like that to make it more interesting.
So, we just need to have you have a sign placement of what kind of signs are going there. Great. I'll get you a map and, you know, tell us what your thoughts are because we want to make it better, too. And thank you for working with us. I've I've met you before and and um you know,
I I like the the people that come in Logic Groves and and want to work with us and and help us out as opposed to the people that just want to build, make the money, and then they get out and they go back to whatever home they're in in West Palm or something like that. So, we've been here so long. I mean, we
started before you were a town, right? and we went to the meetings of let's we got to start all of this and one at the um school where we all had to sit in the little chairs um because everything else was was busy but it it it's been a great venture and and you know we've enjoyed it. We met so many really really nice
people and um so we appreciate all your time too. Okay. So, we have direction. We'll get the map and we'll go from there with the send and and then um Oh, as far as as um I I know this is like putting it a little further because we're not there yet, but you were talking about do you
need somebody from the town to go in there and and empty the garbage cans or something like that. Is that what you were talking about? Or so if you put garbage cans out, which I understand. My thought is certainly at the um you might need something like that at the new town center commons that
we're doing. The water cross, right? I think you're going to definitely need it there. And I think that we could probably handle it there unless it's like a daily thing. It would become a big issue. Yeah. Um, but so that's the only thing is I just have to figure out how I get somebody in there
because it's not like we have somebody full-time on site to clean things up. Um, but I honestly don't believe that many garbage cans would be necessary. Maybe at the town center area would be plenty. I mean, horse people generally put their
stuff back in their saddle bag and bring it. You know, it's it's not the horse people that are throwing that stuff out. We've seen the garbage. It's not. You're correct. I promise you that. Yeah, I would just say one at on your side and then probably possibly one on the Sea Road entrance.
Yeah, that's a good No, that's a good idea, too. So, we put an overhead site of the full sign. Put it there like you were saying, one that's actually waterproof and then you can say garbage can here, garbage can there, the layout of the map, and that could be where your garbage can be.
Okay. You'll have to help me figure out how I, you know, who I can pay or what what I can do to get somebody in there to to do that. I just don't have a person. And also, I don't know if you're the right person to address this with, but isn't the light the crossing seaw road
light is not functional? They were working on it. Yeah, we actually were working on it today. Somebody informed me about it. Yeah. The young lady behind me, you know, and it I'm not going to lie, it slipped my mind on today. Yeah. Like, so yeah. Um, it was actually it was the
batteries went bad in it. Okay. So, they just have they have little uh sixvolt batteries that are in there. So, we actually just ordered new batteries. Haven't put it in. We put another set in. We're going to see if that works till the new ones come in. Thank Okay. Any other questions? Thank you for coming.
Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you much. Uh, okay. Uh, no. Uh agenda item number four, approval of multi-use uh trail rule sign. And we got that in our packet. Y.
So in front of you, you have the the sign that um you all had gave me comments. Ashley was in Alaska or in the world was emailing comments as well. Um this is what I have. Obviously, you're going to see the the watermarks from in
the back. the company has to give that. So, I don't just take their design and run with it. So, this is what I put together. This is what we're kind of looking at. Um, read over the rules and what you think of it. It's going to be 2T by 3 foot. That'll
be the size of it. I'm sorry. Can you repeat that? I was The sign will be two foot wide, three feet tall. Any any thoughts for Craig? No, I think it looks I think it looks great. I like the font. I can easily
read it. It's like an arrow narrow or something like that. And and and the the back the watermark won't be there. No, it just be a solid white, right? So, it'll be a solid white. It could be either solid white or I mean most equestrian stuff has that light tan, but the white and black more stands
out. There would be one. Okay. Yeah. No motorized vehicles on trails at any time other than for maintenance emergency. Okay. I mean, we can move them around, up, down, whatever. It doesn't matter. All they're going to do is hit cut and paste.
Or if you need to add something, we can add any any ideas? Um, no. I I I feel like it's fine. I I like it. The the um the only thing I would put in
there and and I know I should have I didn't even think about this before is down at the bottom. If he sees something, say something. You know, that's an important thing because if if you see something that's not that's and and you can maybe put a phone number for the town or you can
put, you know, call see something to say something, call town office at the phone number or 911, you know, um because if there's if there's something dangerous there, but it's not life-threatening, you don't know about it because you're not back there, but there are people on
horses and they can call and let let you guys know about it. Um, one thing I would advise instead of putting like town hall's number on it is they call on the weekend and there's an emergency. We don't have anyone here on the weekend. The only thing we could say
is you put the sheriff's non-emergency number on there. I'd have to speak with them if they're okay with it. Um, because they have my number to contact me. That's that would be fine. Just some way where if they see something they're, you know, a wash out or something like that.
It's not life-threatening, but if you're on a horse and you don't see it and you're not paying attention, it becomes a problem. Non-emergency matters during business hours and then the town phone number, something like that, like non-emergency
and then during business hours, which is, you know, Monday through Friday, right? I'm just trying to think of some way because everybody carries a cell phone nowadays. So, you know, something like that. It can be just um you know and and anything that happens there after after hours usually
someone's got to call 911 if they can't get a hold of name they'll they'll call you or the the sheriff's you know um hey I I wanted to ask something Craig um I know years ago when I was on the water control district board we actually had a
uh one of the employees and the phone went from employee to employee who was on after hours call. Do you guys have that? We we do have on call, but it's not for residents to directly call. That is for the sheriff to call or as a myself calling them because if I put
that number out there. Yeah. It'll ring more than my phone does because the residents call me all the time. Or well, something else that we did is that we ended up going through the EOC and put their number down there. So if there was any problems and they couldn't
get a hold of somebody during normal business hours or afterwards, they would call the EOC and then the EOC would take that information down and send it to whoever it was the on call person for the water control district. Is that something you guys do? Just to contact them and make sure
they're okay with it. But, you know, we just need to put a number down that we know that if somebody calls, it's going to be answered. It's not going to go to voicemail and and Well, that's that's what I would say if it was the non-emergency sheriff's number if they were okay with it. Yeah.
We know that's getting answered. Then, and all that is getting with the captain for this district out here and seeing if they were okay with that. And they would have to just be it would be updated in their computer system for the non-emergency number. Yeah. Yeah. That would be fine cuz then if there was something
emergency they the or sergeant or whatever just call me directly. They all have my cell phone to call me direct for you know major emergencies. So we go putting like a non-emergency number down there. I don't want to hold the sign up and have to bring it back
next month because of that. just want to say, you know, if we if we agree with it and approve it that you just get it done and and we can get them out there. I mean, I just look at non-emergency, you're going to call town hall. Emergency, you better call 911. If it's
that much emergency, you need to call emergency, it needs just be a 911. What happens if there's like dirt bikes on the trails? Who who would you call in that instance to like report that rule or law violation? I don't I I mean I don't think you could do anything to it.
Exactly. I mean it's it really doesn't it's a multi-purpose non-motorized but I would have to look into it and see if I mean trying to chase down a dirt bike is about the worst thing in the world. There's can't do anything.
I mean sheriff's department can't keep him off of Southern Boulevard, right? How are we going to keep him off a canal bank? Well, you know, I see them down Okobee Boulevard going down to Palm Beach. And the way that that that I tell people is that, you know, if if if you uh you have an intersection, if there's no stop
signs there, people going through it, law enforcement can't issue any tickets because there's nothing there. Correct. And it's the same thing with, you know, with the trails or or with our canal banks that if we don't have sign signage there, you know, to to say you have to stay off, they can't legally,
they can enforce it, but if it goes to court and they say, well, where were your signs at? There are none out there. Case dismissed. Well, I mean, that's we're hoping. I mean, this does say no motorized vehicles on the trails. Yes. Yeah. Basically, it says it twice, which is at first I thought, well, we
shouldn't have that, but it says what kind of vehicles can be there and then it says motorist. So, it kind of even says it twice to them. So, you know, they can overlook that. Yeah, it's it's you know, it's one of those things. A dirt bike runs down the canal bank. By the time we report it, if
you did call the sheriff or you called me, by the time I get there, you know, they're long gone, riding, chase them down. So, do we want to go ahead? They obey the rules is Yes. What's that? Think we should just approve it and get
it approve changes. Oh, um we have any um We have a public comment. Okay. Public comments, please. Mary McNicholas, 12845 Raymond Drive. Um a couple of things and I just want to mention um I didn't look at this before.
I apologize, Craig. Um, we do. Do you We don't have the floor statute on here as far as I saw that. It's not on there. Great great minds think alike. It needs to be on there. I saw one. I looked it up. It needs to be on there. Okay. And we do have those throughout. Um, also I didn't
realize the trails will be open at all hours. What's the What's the background on that one? Most parks are just a thought. I'm just throwing it out there. I I don't know. I I just that's what I'm asking the background and I'm former
risk manager so you know sorry no no you're good thank you you know I being a problem is what Diane was speaking about with the homeless like how are we going to say can't be in here if it's open right so here's the one thing that we
did and with another client what we did um as far as all the motorized vehicles okay and anybody that should not be in there for whichever purpose whatever ever reason because it could be just, you know, kids having a bonfire. I don't know. I'm just making up stuff, you
know. But truly, as far as it goes, we sat down with the sheriff's office, the deputies, and and actually discuss the ATVs, the, you know, uh, electric scooters, everything. And so, Craig, we'll probably, you know, set that up
like maybe in November or something if it's okay. We'll just set up because in essence, they'll tell you exactly what they want you to do. And it's a very easy process and they have a couple of um ATVs and stuff and honestly it ends
up being about the same group of kids. Sorry. It is all the time. So they know they know exactly what's going on and I just wanted to give that share that experience for you all. Okay. I think that was really about it. The kicker is hilarious though.
A known kicker. I know it's equestrian but I'm just laughing. that was at request. And also when it says multi-purpose trail rules, I know there was some discussion um and Darcy's not here, so I'm going to bring it up at on every
grant that we've done. We've done multi-use trails. I don't know if that matters or not, but everything that we do that way is multiuse. I I don't know because I don't have like any heartburn either way. I'm just
letting you all know. So that we're doing but the multi-purpose was that the question whether it was an equestrian trail because FRO originally we did get some money as an equestrian trail there too but multi-use is pretty much everything that's used. So it's up
to you all. I just wanted to offer that information. Okay. Any other comments? No. Thank you very much. So, um, uh, the only other thing I have to have to ask you, Craig, is does this sign need to be approved by the council?
I do not know that answer. I'd have to ask the main lady in the office over there. So, if it does, because I just don't want to get bogged down in the weeds. Yeah. With with with them over there. But, um, okay. So, um, any other
comments from the from the board? I just want to throw one thing out there. Do you think we should put something on there regarding the trash container and like all please put all trash in? So, I was looking at this one for like all our trails.
Okay. Okay. And we don't have a rush yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, trash cans everywhere would just Yeah, I think we might. It makes a lot for me. So, let me just understand that the the suggestion from the public comment is that that we wait and we pow-wow with another group of
people before finalizing um this because I I want to get this out. I want to I want to get these up and we can always do comment again. Sorry. Oh, are you talking about me? Yeah, the public comment was from Mary.
Um my public comment of getting somebody had to do with law enforcement. It has nothing to do with Okay. Yeah. nothing to do with the sign. The comments I made about the sign were the times, the name, multi-use instead of purpose, uh LA, and add the uh floor statute.
Okay, thank you for that. That's something I would suggest that we uh propose changes and then we we give it to Craig to find out if it needs to get approved by the council and if it doesn't, then he moves forward with producing the signs. I
don't know how many, but that's that's I guess that's another question. how many signs um and then we get these up because we can always in the future years I think maybe revise these of course depending on cost and all that but I think the priority is to get these
up especially during our term so I I can the changes that that I've been writing it writing it down as we've been going through it first of all the tops at a multi-purpose multi-use yep correct everybody we're good with that and then add Florida statutes in on it
statute normally will always go to the bottom. Yeah. Add a dawn to dusk uh statement in there and a remove all hours and add dawn to dusk. Okay. And then add a phone number. Non-emergency phone number. So I was going to a non-emergency would
be town hall because you can leave a voicemail here for non-emergency. Emergency would either be we could put 911 or you can put or we can put the non sheriff's non-emergency number. I'm assuming that people would know to dial in one way. Maybe we could just do for non-emergency
reporting and the town hall number and then that's it. And then hopefully people will call 911. How many people call their doctor when they're having a heart attack? And it says call 911 if you're having a heart attack. Well, as long as you say I think it's a
non-emergency as for non-emergency matters, please call the town hall. You even need a phone number. I don't know if you need to have it to the main desk. I would I Well, a lot of people don't know the number to town hall. Yeah, that's the thing. I would put town hall's phone front desk phone number so it goes in the messages.
So, do we have a a motion to um for the uh for the signs as changed? The multi-use trail signs changed. make a motion to accept the trail ride
trail signs as with the changes made. Great. Do we have a second? I have a second. Um, as long as we're clear on the last part that we we were talking about the phone number for the town hall. Yeah. Right. You're you're Okay. Yeah. I'm going to put non-emergency and it would be the front desk town hall
phone number. Right. Correct. Okay. Any more discussion? All in favor say I. All oppose. Motion passes three to zero. Yay. Got something else done. I feel good. Okay. So, what
is front desk phone number? Huh? I don't know. I just call you. See, that's why we just came down hall. I was waiting for you so I can ask. Okay. Agenda item number five, update on
the Okachobee Boulevard grant. Yes, ma'am. Mary's the number. You are way more knowledged on this than I am. This is the TVA. Do you really want the number? I know by heart. Is it 277? That's what I have. No, I have 5612.
7932418. 52. 7932418. Hold on. That goes to one of the side. Okay. Well, we'll we'll we'll exchange phone numbers afterwards. Mary McNicholas, Jeffrey V. Slugen Associates, your government affairs
person, representative for the town. Um, I wanted to first tell you on September 4th, as after many, many, many calls, multiple follow-ups, etc., we were sadly disappointed that we
were not listed as a priority for the TPA project. The TPA is the transportation planning agency. That's Palm Beach County. Uh, sorry, it's Palm Beach Transportation Planning Agency. We did go through this process and I'm I'm
going to bring this up because the chair had had we had a conversation about the history on this in 2019. We actually did get that $4.5 million grant. It would be about 400 and $400,000 a little bit more
than $400,000 that the town would have had to pay. um over the lifespan of building the project and we did get Palm Beach County to go ahead and you be our bank for us if you will. So it would
have been prrated out over however many years we needed to to build it. Um that project did include once we got done with a lot of things um it did include one roundabout at Folsam and Okachchobee because that isn't a warranted um
intersection and it included uh lots of trail signs that the trail heads is what we called them and that would have you know regular information and it also did include what Frank had asked me about as far as a multi-use trail um down the
south side of Okobee within the county's right ofway and we actually got their approval to do that. There was a condition a stipen on that is that in essence if in fact it needed to be removed or anything needed to be removed
from the trail purpose. It would have a fence. I mean it would look like Southshore just like what you brought up to me. Um in essence that it would it also would have grass. It had a decurb which would have been double protection more than what anything that you have
now. And in essence, it would have if it was to be taken down within seven years of the project, then we could have had to pay it back. Clearly, right now, we've already passed, you know, would have passed that time period because nobody's doing anything to it, right, in
this next year. So, um, there was one more thing that I want to tell you that that roundabout that was designed had to be we had to agree that it would be an expandable roundabout. So, that if at any time it would be it would be designed to be expanded to four lanes,
but it would be a two lane with mountable curbs so that every tractor, trailer, everything, fire, rescue, anybody could pass over the curbs, could pass around it. it it really was a great project. So, we put in for it again and
did not get prioritized. Part of the reason I believe, okay, is that in essence the county put in, if anybody went to the master um countywide master transportation plan meeting that was at the state college last week, week
before, um it it was discussed that in the capital, the county's capital plan, five-year plan, that it had a section that said design plan to fourlane Okachchobee
your council members and myself discussed it with the vice mayor who was our district commissioner at the time at that meeting afterwards during and afterwards and we actually had that changed. The verbiage is now going to be
a feasibility study for improvements so that it could include any of the design that we talked about doing originally. And we originally talked about doing three roundabouts. These are at the main, you know, intersections of where they would, you know, could be.
Um, everybody has their idea on where it should and shouldn't be, but, you know, in essence, it's it goes by by traffic engineering. It doesn't go by like where I would like to have it. You know, it's and what's warranted means is that in essence, Folsam and Okchobee is the only
intersection that you have on Okchobee that is warranted for any type of traffic device. Okay, which the town is over. So, we tried to put it in. Obviously, they already the county already has it
in the 5-year capital plan, but it is now in for fiscal year 26, which started yesterday. Okay? And they will be doing a feasibility study, which we have, we are all over. We want to be included. We
want, you know, very specifics. We talked about it with the vice mayor, vice mayor Sarah Baxter. We specifically want to be involved on every angle of it. I was not aware until Frank brought it up to me the other day that you all had discussed something about putting in
the trail again um on the southside, but this will be the time to bring up any ideas of what it is that you would want. Okay? And I will be getting with you all, bringing back status to you, letting you know where it is, furnishing
it to either Gabby andor, Francine and Craig, so that you know what the status is on what we're doing because we have to be heavily involved in this. No question. Was there some time when you all had brought up that you wanted the trail again? Because I I just didn't know about it. Well, I know a few months
ago, I think basically when we started, we were talking about doing the the fencing along Okchobee. Okay. And the curb. Okay. That was our whole thing. And then the crossings at each one of the letter roads. Sure. But um and then um you know, it sort of
fell by the wayside, I think, over over time. It tied into that February 14th grant. Remember, for the Warm Crossing, so that was sort of where that came up. the number that we put in for that grant. So, I think for that um not that we don't want it, it's just
okay. Well, I would, you know, I'll need to know how we're going to, you know, how we're going to want to proceed and stuff that way and I can get with you all individually. You can give, you can call me, let me know what you're thinking, talk to your representative, um, town council member. So, you know, whichever,
so we can figure out how we want to go about that. Um the the next status I want to tell you is just because we didn't get it for the TPA, we weren't prioritized because the county is already doing this. Okay. Um and and in
essence, I want you to know that we put in for multiple grants. Is that a is that a good say way to say it? I mean multi-million dollars of grants. Now, the ones I want to bring up to you have to do specifically with your committee.
And you know, we have not given an update to the council. Um, if I'm still in town this Tuesday, I will be doing it Tuesday night. If not, it will be at the next their next meeting. But in essence, what I put in originally, and this is with the commerce, Florida Commerce
Department, it's the community planning technical assistance grant application. Okay? I put in four, two specifically apply to your committee and that's a comprehensive equestrian plan of action. You got to think Department of Commerce
is looking at the economy and the economics that you are asking for. So, what I've cho what I had chosen to do, and it was a lot of work, um, but we asked for a $55,000 grant to go ahead
and identify and strengthen the economic, uh, infrastructure, land use, and environmental components of the town's equestrian industry. So, in essence, we're looking at kind of what is this as far as an economic engine?
because it is you all. I mean, it's becoming so much bigger and better than I even knew until I was doing filming with you all and doing trails and doing all these different things. It's really um definitely an asset. And as a result
of that, we have gone to the Palm Beach County Sports Commission. We have gone to Palm Beach County Engineering and we've gone to Florida Department of Environmental Protection under all these different grants because what's good when you put in for grants is that you
tie this park, Lockache Groves Park and the trail fo is our priority FRO and North Road because in essence I want you all to continue to build on your successes. Okay, you're doing a great job. You're doing a fantastic job as a
committee. you and your coordinator here and Gabby, you know, so in essence, I mean, you want to keep building on this, but FRO and FRO Trail and North Road both tie into the Palm Beach, I'm sorry, Royal Palm Beach Pines Preserve as well.
what we also put in in grants that we just put in by Tuesday night. Thank you Craig and so in essence we actually um got appro well I should say we requested to collaborate with Indian Trail
Improvement District and so we're tying in their gr you know their trails and their you know Nicole um I'm going to say the wrong name. Um their riding facility and that kind of stuff. They're Thank you, Nicole
Hornstein. Um Ecoin Center. Um while we're doing it, we're also discussing with parks and recreation and the their assistant county administrators to see how we can better utilize some of the um properties that are at this locks Hatche
Groves Park because there's I know I know. Well, the idea is we need to get stuff done. Enough talking about it. I have gone through 24 years of your plans from neighborhood plan to comp plan to
master greenways, trails, met rag, whatever you call it. Yeah. Um to your updated stuff to everything. And it's like I thought I'd come up with some good ideas. These there's just great ideas in here. We just need to execute it. Okay. Um my next step after getting
some of these collaborations will be to do some public private partnerships as well because there are people that are in the community that want to help donate and do things for the trail heads the you know name a trail whatever. Okay, that kind of thing. It's just in
my brain. I don't have don't have the details but Francine and I have talked about it. We put in these these commerce plan uh commerce grants. The other one is the tree canopy resilient and I'm going to get out of here soon. $30,000. The tree canopy resiliency plan is
basically to go ahead and identify I mean everybody says we're supposed to be protecting the tree canopy but we don't even know what the tree canopy is right now. So when you do that you kind of survey it you do a lot of things but you also are requesting it it's a building
block to request additional funds for other grants. So, wrapping it up, we went ahead and put everything that was in the TPA for the crossings. Okay. And we went ahead and put that 1,142,000
in the Florida Commerce Florida Rural Infrastructure Fund program, otherwise known as the RIFF grant. Okay? So, we put that all in there. We have uh a couple of others that we put in very specific to your trails. I like I said,
I need to give, you know, an update to council and I'll make sure that you guys get copies of things and you can look at it and if you have any questions, you can call me. Is that enough enough of an update? Okay. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Really working and he was great. So was
uh Richard. So was Francine. I mean Trish Bar did a lot of work. Two things. B C trail, I'm sorry, the C road crossing at Collecting Canal. We're not He's working on the mechanics of the sign and stuff
and it not working. But we're also going to look at the other two ways coming from south to west and also east to west because there's nothing to tell people that. And the next thing we're also working on is the B- road crossing. Yes,
Ashley. B- road B as in boy. Yeah, road crossing. B- road crossing to nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. We need a little bit more there. You're right. I'm really partial to FRO because of the connectivity issue and I don't know if
we can prioritize that across Okachobee so that you can go from the trails here. It's in this grant. It's in the grant. FOD will go all the way. They're already aligning with a lot of these road projects. They're already aligning some of these crossings. So I I believe
Craig, what is the crossing going to look like there? It's being aligned, isn't it? At F. Yes. And OP. So no, FN collecting canal first. I'm going from here. Oh, so FN collecting the actual roadway will be here and the gargoyle will be back and that there will be a crossing
right there at collecting. That's amazing. And we'll connect straight to here. Great idea to do it that way. Great idea. You see so many pipes over there. We are widening that whole entire intersection. I think you'll give everybody notice of when guys are going to be starting. Why would we do that? Yes, please.
It's been delayed, but they're doing a great job. Yes. Now, Ephrod and Okobee, okay, it's in these grants. Now, we have the rural designation that is not a rural area of opportunity. It is not that. That is a completely separate
entity completely. We don't qualify for that. We're a rural designated um community and we have a legacy. It's called the legacy um ruling and we're working on our uh renewal. Okay. Thanks, Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you.
Any other comments on this particular agenda item? And none. We're at the end of our regular agenda. We're going to end up doing committee member comments. Katie, do you want to go first? I really don't have any comments. I'm
very happy today. We got some things done. I would hope these grants all come to prepatient. I was just like it would be so nice. You know, I've been there almost 40 years. Plenty more years I got. I don't know.
Plenty more to go. But it Thank you. It's It's really nice that it's finally coming together. Yes, ma'am. Um I guess my comments are I'm excited to see some signs out there hopefully very soon. Um I I feel upset or you know
about the TPA grant not coming through for 2025. I was really excited about that. We had our community meeting all that. But I thank you guys for resubmitting it and continuing to you know keep things moving forward um on that because that's really um we need
the connectivity. Um and I think that's it. Okay. Um I just wanted to to make a quick comment that about 15 years ago I was with the League of Cities with the water control district and uh there was
the um um the one of the people from uh Riviera Beach he was actually on the the president league of cities and her thing was trails and it was multi-use trails horses and all that and and I had brought back a thing to the town of Lockach Groves that when they were
getting ready to widen Southern Boulevard. Uh that was the time for us to get in on on doing something that we wanted to and uh our committee with the League of Cities were going to we came up with doing a uh a bridge that goes
across Southern Boulevard and the Right. That's it. Right. So I thought, hey, you know, and and we actually got the DOT was going to pay for 100% of it, but Lockache Groves needed to go ahead and and and say, hey, they can come on to our side. Wellington
said, "Okay, we're good." And you know what? The council people said, "Nope, we don't want it because because somebody might drive a car over there or something like that." Yeah, I know. I know. But and this whole thing was and we actually had a good thing set up to where the trails would be for horses all
the way over almost to the beach for people and everything else and going out to the lake. And every five miles there would have been a shelter area, a a a bathroom, water and all that for everybody to use and then a couple of camping areas throughout the way. was going to be a really nice thing. That
was from east to west and from north to south we had it to where trails would hook in from starting up in Jupiter and go all the way down to Boto and it was most of it was through the national on the edge of national wildlife refuge and we were going really good but that
bridge was a key concept to that and because locks edge grows back then the town council said no we don't want it everything literally fell apart that bridge was the the cornerstone of everything and without that cornerstone that building you know was was going fail. So, I'm glad to see that we're
moving forward now and um hopefully maybe one day we can see uh we can see a bridge over there to where it would connect and because that's the big thing. That's the connection that that is the main road that we have to traverse out here. Everything else is is
not a big deal. But, um yeah, I want to thank Mary for your hard work, Craig for your hard work, uh the our our committee because we're actually getting something done. I feel like we're not just spinning our wheels in the mud anymore. It feels good. So, that's uh that's
pretty much all my comments and um so our next thing is confirmation of the next meeting date. I believe it's October 16th. If you guys are still having the one for October,
would you like would you guys like to have one in two weeks? If we can get the signs one, you know, if everything Yes. If we need to, I'll be here every day. Yeah. If we Yeah. If we need to have a meeting in October, something for us to discuss, by all means, you know, let's
we'll set a date now and we can always cancel it. Okay. October 16th on Yes, ma'am. October 16th would be our meeting. And if we can't if that's canled, say we don't need it. I mean, it's scheduled now, but if that's canceled, then when
would the next one be? The next one for November is November 20th. Okay. I got him in my calendar already. November 20th, sir. Yeah, that would be the one in November. So, just go to every third Thursday on
your calendar and hit record. Reck. No, that would require me to be more technical. That's true. Okay. So, we got that done. So, uh do I have a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn.
Second. Thank you.