it wouldn't let me turn it on at first okay so um in accordance with the requirements of the open meeting law please be advised that this meeting is being recorded and um we trying to bring that the ow into
place yeah yeah see it's it says it say okay the recording of the meeting will be available on the lenberg public access Channel within 20 within 24 hours uh participants may use uh the zoom to
speak public participation is uh encouraged and public comments may be registered on any of the regular agenda topic topics um are you muted now all right can you hear us now you're
yeah you're back okay for some reason I I audio is not working and so oh yeah you it's tracking now they can see you oh it is it's tracking now yeah okay all right okay you're miss a lot
um so there's no public comment because there's no members of the public here none online um uh I did get the me I did not get the meeting minutes uh yesterday or whenever you sent them out I did get them you know on your second pass through and um
I have looked at them they look great to me except for one thing in the the formatting you have um new business and then you have a one and a parentheses and you just have the letter a um I think what I would do William is it just
get rid of the new business and call it current business which is what it was on the agenda and then everything else looks good everything is uh okay is up to not and I'm going to move uh have you looked at those here look at that real
quickly yeah um I'll I'll move those uh sub move for approval uh is there a second second okay and then let Nathan take a quick look uh further discussion and then we'll proceed to approve those um
Richard's on his way to uh see his son um and H he's not available uh okay so all those in favor of approving the meeting minutes as presented subject to that one little change on formatting I'll say I I I I
okay um let's move into so those meeting minutes are approved let's go into um the uh agenda under current business um the lunenberg municipal building design
committee um had a very short meeting uh last week uh because the chair of the committee was not available um so we didn't really discuss a whole lot uh there was um some
discussion um about uh the Brooks house uh and and as it as that conversation went um we've not done anything the lunenberg municipal building design committee has not done anything with the Brooks house and uh the decision was made by the
acting chair David blat that uh it wouldn't do anything at last week's meeting now Michael Ray just sent out he's the chair of the committee Michael Ray just sent out a committee uh chair sent out an agenda for next uh the next meeting which is 17 March it's Monday at
5:30 in the Lun in the uh Brooks house is back on the agenda so we'll see what happens um so as it stands right now now no nothing has been developed for the warrant That was supposed to be
presented at the annual time meeting in May so as it stands right now there hasn't been any work on the Brooks house um with regards to the municipal building itself um we didn't do a whole lot of uh substantial work during last
week's meeting once again because the chair was not present um but think that uh you know we still have a couple big big issues one is uh what will the PowerPoint presentation look like that's presented at annual time meeting and how
much is this going to cost the taxpayers so we there was some discussion about how to develop the PowerPoint presentation but no decisions were reached um the determination of applicability and uh the certificate of
applicability on uh certificate at the alter I have I made a mistake when I wrote that uh that agenda item uh to certificate the alter on open go.com um I haven't checked but I don't think that's been completely finalized by loog Connell
yet uh historical commission architecture preservation District commission merger update this is actually the one reason why I did not cancel tonight's meeting because there really isn't much for us to be much to substantial to discuss um the time manager
um and I had been swapping emails back and forth about that warrant you know getting the merger uh done um at the annual time meeting in May and uh so she finally
finally talked to Adam Costa I think I had mentioned at our meeting um in February that uh Adam was kind of missing an action he hadn't responded to my emails hadn't responded responded to Carters and he hadn't been responding to
the new time manager but they did finally chat and last Friday I had a long conversation with the time manager and what she indicated was she really doesn't want to put this on the uh in the warrant booklet for the annual
time meeting she says uh after my conversation with Adam I felt like it was more complicated uh than what was going to be presented and I don't want to do this twice um she says and I would
really like for you to speak with Adam and you know proceed um with your plan but have you do that directly with him and I says I'm perfectly okay with that he says and uh that was one of the things that we were trying to get done
you know way back in the fall when we first met with Adam I says but that kind of got turned off by Carter and uh she goes understand that she says but I really feel like um we won't have enough time to produce a good warrant article
for consideration at the annual time meeting and I don't want to do anything um at this point in time contrary to what our new time manager is suggesting so uh and and um you know we had
discussed having the powers of the architectural preservation District be a part of warrant you know a merger and then expand the APD to uh townwide you know the provisions in the architecture preservation District bylaw
so maybe we can still get that done but I wanted to wanted to let you know that as it stands right now that warrant for merging the historic commission and apdc uh is not moving forward based on the time manager's opinion that we we
should wait do something uh more comprehensive ensive and do it in conjunction with Adam um so I says I am no problem working with Adam I says that was one of the issues that we raised back in the fall now I says but you're
going to tell him that we want to have this discussion and she says yes I will I will send him an email um ASAP that tells Adam that we're not going to proceed with a warrant in for the ATM in May but he was to work with you to
produce something that would then be presented a special time meeting in November so is there any real heartburn over that I mean once again it's this isn't what I wanted to do you know I wanted to at least get the the two organizations merged um but I I don't
see that as happening I think the time manager is somewhat overwhelmed with her new position you know a lot of issues on her plate right now and I don't think she wants to you know to do something that's not going to get approved in May and I think she realizes that we did have a breakdown in communication
between Town Council and our objective and hopefully she's put that on track so whim any comments no I mean like you said you kind of want to go in line if uh she feels like there's there's more meat
that needs to be done um and you kind of mentioned I mean do we try and push the expansion that way it helps our package for next that way we can also you know we do merge say next year you know it's not a you know have to having to expand
the district to meet the historical commissions already uh area of responsibility hours will already be expanded I I that that is one of my plans is to say all right since we've had a delay now we're going to do it all at once you know we'll we'll try and get
uh our powers uh expanded townwide um as as well as merging the two commissions now that's that will probably and and Jennifer told me you know she goes I think that will be a big you it'll take a big push to get that done I says I understand that I says you
know but that's kind of what we wanted to have happen so I think we could use that that time now with Adam to say let's revise you know the historic commission's work uh and the APD work such that there's one group of people
doing this but the regulations that have been uh on the table for the APD will then apply to ride so I I would I will pursue that with Adam in fact one of the things that I might try and get done is to have Adam join us at our next
uh meeting um via zoom and you know so what do you think of that uh have him become a part of our discussion yeah yeah it sounds good yeah and uh since since he kind of owes us one I'm hoping that um you know that that he'll be be he'll be agreeable to that and then of
course you know every hour that he spends he builds the town and and I'll make sure that Jennifer knows that we're going to ask him to join us by Zoom now it may turn out that we have to have um a meeting sometime different than 7:30
so I will work on his schedule I'm going to say I want to have it at 7:30 but if he goes oh no I don't work nights you know we'll see when he does work so um so that's the situation not what we'd H for you know now fortunately we're not
really busy reviewing lots of projects you know with uh so I think that um we we can I think have a little bit of a a period of time to think about how to do this the best way possible all right um any other
questions about the merger any other comments about the merger okay all right um speaking of Zoom um we're actually employing uh the AI feature that's now part of
zoom and um the there you are let me see if we can get both get you it's not moving around maybe no it is no it's not all right well that's fine yeah um so uh I to see what the transcript looks
like now I've seen the planning boards transcripts and if what they produced was what Zoom is producing as a result of them employing AI uh it's not very good it's uh I I mean like you can't you need a lot of time to read the
transcript it's it's really kind of a a drag but we'll see um but now here's the other point um the law that allows for us to have you know you William at home during this meeting and us down here that law
expires 31st of March and the latest information from the time manager is nothing was it time was either the time manager or from uh Ellen Griffin is that um there's bills being
proposed but no action has been taken and uh you know so we may not be able to use zoom to have members remotely signed in so you're talking about yeah yeah I'm sorry you said when is it expired 31st
of March end of the month so yeah I know it's kind of crazy yeah I think I I propose Civil Disobedience moving on soon not not me because I'm here to tell you that the Greensboro boy not me
because I'll tell you what the open meeting law is not something to be trifled with I mean poor Rich does that what does that does that only apply to board members like or would that still be a option for the community I think I
think we will continue to use zoom to allow me to allow the computer uh the community members to want to sign in um because it's I think that's you know a good way of engaging people and it's a
good way of recording this you know if they say we can't use zoom to do that then someone from the pack staff has to come over here and videotape us and then put that you know then load that to the town I don't think it's about not being I suspect it's not so much about not
being able to use zoom it it's more about the physical presence of the members more right but I mean it's still I think it's done but yeah it is I mean I think I think that Zoom is really a fantastic toll and why why the and I think that um you know this
has been extended numerous times since it was first employed during Co I mean we're you know almost three years past the the the peak period of co co and they're still kind of you know dealing with this on a temporary basis now it's
my understanding from the email that I saw is that there's actually been legislation introduced that will not just extend it but make it make it you know it'll codify it as something that's permanent that Tans can use zoom to conduct business like this but just
FYI well you might have to be here in person next week and I know you have good I know you have good reasons for being home you know so oh yeah she's she's sitting she's sitting right here coloring I knew that was the
case I knew that was the case which isun you know this is a way to have people you know allowed to be engaged all right oh yeah so let's talk about uh what I do know about uh any questions about that okay so let's talk about town hall
and riddle projects um I wish Richard could hear this Richard sent me a text and said hey there's a Weather Vein in the Attic of town hall and that needs to be installed as part of the roof repair project that is underway and um oh the one that's
missing is in the app yeah it's been replaced they they uh the historic commission paid to have a new weather unfortunately I talked to Chris Ruth about this yesterday and unfortunately Chris told me that they
can't install it because there is some uh structural damage to the uh you know the top of the Town Hall okay that has to be repaired and it is not in the current contract because it was too expensive to do you know they they had a
kind of Whittle back that contract to get to get it to the point where it could be awarded for what funding was available so uh he is aware of it he said that you know that he'll try and get it up there and of course one of the big issues is
that if the vote appr if there's a vote to approve the what's being proposed for the consolidation of act T activities in the riter and then the repair of town hall it would be part of that but that's at least at least a year and a half two
years down the road so Chris might have to do something on a on a temporary or not on a temporary basis but on a different contract than what's currently underway um they had a problem with getting to the second the first chimney on the roof is
done um and Richards looked at it and I think that he was okay with he wasn't initially but I think he's okay with what he saw um the second the second chimney on the side of the building uh close to where pixelated technology is
now located used to be a law law office Gilman law office that got delayed because the building hadn't the closing on the building between Gilman law and pixelated hasn't taken place gim law still owns the building that building uh
closing was that sale closing was delayed because the tan uh emergency access ramp or erress ramp is on that property so the Town Council had to
develop a uh an an easement that easements been worked and then when Gilman found out that the contractor was going to put did put scaffolding up on it he he brought that work to a close and said Not until I have my easement
because I don't want to be liable for any anyone getting hurt um I think that the U not I think I know that that has now been approved the easement has now been approved and uh the work began the contractor resumed work on Monday
so they're back at repairing uh the chimney and then um the plan is the contractor who has that work is the same contractor who has the roof repairs and the exterior repairs on riter and Chris told me yesterday that um when that
crew's done with the chimney they'll come over here and start working on the rder so we'll uh we'll see we'll we'll see some ACT it's two different contractors two different contracts but the same contractor so that work will will take place that's good yeah yeah
that's a big deal that chimney's been in Edis some work for a long time yes it great to see it's gotten done absolutely um let me look at Richard's email to see if he sent this to all of you if he did i w i I won't uh read it to you or I won't
summarize um yeah I saw the scaffolding going up uh with the the part of it's on the that lean to on the side I was wondering how how nice that was going to hold up yeah yeah okay so um this is the note that I
this is the his update on 763 uh and it looks like he just sent it to me he says uh 763 Mass Avenue is going to be developed as a two family home the town homes are going to be developed in front of the historic home
the owner has been and continues to be in violation of the demo delay law since it's Inception the building ins sector building inspector Brian gang says it's mot because the owner is going to save the property that's awesome yeah that is awesome all right and then he says so
that that's 763 that's good news um and then he goes on to give us an update on the historic survey that it's being done for the historic commission this is um phase one's done pring list of homes has been mostly worked out research is beginning the goal is to survey 85
properties and sites like Marshall Park which will make many of them eligible to be nominated for the National Historic uh National register of historic places there are homes in the APD whose forms have to be updated and others that
haven't been researched and documented so that's good news you know I think that the historic commission is doing they're doing good work and uh and most of that's being driven by re uh by Richard you know he took the the guy who's doing this project for them he's actually from Vermont he came in Richard
spent a couple days with him and uh that work the to White survey is now now done and now they're going to start doing the details to get data that would allow for the nomination into the national register yeah that that's all good stuff um historic commission's been pretty
busy all righty so that's it from Richard and then the only other item that we have is like any news on 50 ma Street uh I went into I sorry I usually think about this right before our meeting so I went in there today moving
the ball forward uh very slowly but but moving forward uh I met I I went there and I got David devol's information from one of the employees there and I emailed David Deval who's one of the owners of the cond yeah and uh so the next step
will be to meet with him okay but it's moving forward slowly but yeah good good good good all right so we'll see we'll keep keep it keep an eye on that um the only other thing that I have just as kind of a general comment I had one of the reasons why I was talking to Chris so much yesterday had to give me a tour
of Brooks house and um I was really kind of pleased I mean the place is in not that bad of condition you structurally there's I don't I didn't see anything that had me worried other than the uh the fire escate that had been built and
of course you know the the that's all new stuff you know yeah and oh yeah like the the big uh Jenga sorry yeah I know what you're talking about and uh and of course the the the one bad really bad thing is you know like First Impressions the stairs
that go into the front door they've fallen off like the the joist clips of given way and you know they need to be fixed but once you get inside the buildings you know it has a like like the first thing I I like to look at when I go in Old buildings is the basement
it's relatively dry you know it it has um some massive Stone pieces there is a there is one portion close to where there was an addition Ed I need to find out a little more about when the addition was added um the addition is not attractive at all but the house
itself is it's really it's very doable this is a very doable project yeah I mean it's a yeah it's I think like yeah it's great yeah but the longer we go not nothing happening is so they're going to look at this at the next meeting and hopefully I mean this is not rocket science It Isn't So I
mean would I don't mean you do you know you're always working for this board in a way that I am not but would you do you think you know maybe um having a conversation with a new town manager just to like I did have conversation nudge the process on this I did I mean
all I just got to do is ask Brian to like put it in motion and what no you know I I didn't watch last night's select board meeting that meeting went by the way five hours oh yeah that's because they were doing the school budget right was that yeah my son was my son was it was a
joint meeting initially with the school committee he was there for three hours and and then and then he left and uh and then they finished their regular select board business two hours later uh Chris Chris was telling me that uh that Jen
told him that he did she did not get him until after midnight on uh on Tuesday night you know that's not sustainable no it's not it really isn't in fact one of the things that I've I've talked with my son about was the T needs to have better control over their meetings because no
volunteer is going to want to join in a 5our meeting like this like the planning board that where I was reading the transcript that had been produced by Zoom AI that was a 5H hour meeting you know like I just don't know how you can expect to recruit volunteers to sit
around and talk for five hours like that it's not manageable um maybe we need to deploy the town moderator to all these meeting you know what they need to do when I used to testify before the city of day they would they had a red light you know it was a red they had a green yellow and
red yeah and and when you got up there it was like you got 5 minutes to make your presentation unless it's something that you had pre-arranged yeah with us to talk about yeah you know and U so the first the the way you got five minutes so the first thing was the um green
light would run for four minutes okay and then uh the yellow light would come on at the 4 minute Mark and when the light red light went on at the 5 minute Mark the clerk would say Thank you very much Mr skull and Briny for your comments please sit down yeah I mean that's what that's what
needs to happen I'm a big proponent like the pitch clock you know yeah I know it's like the pitch clock it really has out baseball all right that's that's all I got I think uh Brooks Brooks I will keep you guys posted I'm anxious to see what comes out of our conversation on Monday night and I'll send you an email
you know I was going to send you an email on what was going to happen at the last meeting but nothing happened at the last meeting so anything else for us because we're not having an hour meeting tonight we're having a a half hour meeting no no we got our semor in full
service here yeah all right guys um is there a motion to adjourn uh motion to adjourn seconded all those in favor say I I and we are adjourned at 8 o'clock thank you very much whim thanks for joining us no worries for the for
minutes you want me to put the um normal Thursday time for now and we'll adjust oh yeah yeah yeah um yeah let's so the next meeting would be that's the 10th of April um and then uh if you just make that one little change where you change
out that one place where you have the one and then the a just yep rid of that make other current business so and then so those meetings are approved subject to that change and then if you send those off to Ellen that would be great all righty all right have a good
night okay you bye