here. Okay. So, it is uh a May 8th of May and it's 7:31 and we're getting ready to start the APDC meeting. Um the meeting is being recorded uh via the Zoom software and it'll be posted uh
tomorrow on the uh Lunenburgg Access YouTube channel. And uh we are using something new tonight. So we have some language that we have to read and it says that uh the Tana Lunberg utilizes the Zoom platform as
host for its hybrid in remote meetings. The Zoom platform utilizes AI technology known as AI companion to create audio transcriptions of meetings to aid in the subsequent preparation of meeting minutes and that AI companion is
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speak. Public participation is encouraged. The agenda lists all the topics which may be discussed and those reasonably anticipated by the chair. Votes may be taken because of these discussions. Not all items listed in fact may be discussed. All other items
other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent uh permitted by the open meeting law. Tonight is the first night we've used AI companion um for our APDC meetings. And I guess there are actually some people that
watch our meetings uh even though they don't participate them participate in um um because when I looked at the uh the headcount for views we had, you know, like 25 or 30. So kind of kind of crazy.
Um but we don't have anybody online with us today. We don't have anybody with us. Uh we have Bridget McGrath and William Lloyd. Nathan uh Lockwood had a business that he had to conduct tonight for work and hence he's not here. Um William,
were you able to crank out the meeting minutes from the 10th of April? Yes. All right. Did you send those because I didn't see I did, but I didn't get to send them until late this afternoon. Okay. All right. So, um we'll we'll look at those um at next week's or next month's meeting. Okay. Um, and then that
way there we'll have a chance to see if there's any changes. Um, but we won't so we won't put those tonight. We'll we'll look at those and we'll put those at our meeting. And you've been sending the approved meeting minutes off to the town clerk, right, for posting on our website. I have via the outlook. I'm not
sure if they're going through though. I might have to just use it my Gmail. You could just check on website. Yeah, I don't think they're all there. So, I'll follow up on my my personal email. I I really I want to make sure that we if we have minutes and we approve them, I want
really want to make sure we get those posted. I've been looking at uh some other boards and committees and there's big gaps in meeting minutes and that's that's a dangerous situation. Really? Yeah. And the one that that really has me concerned is the Lunberg Municipal
Building Design Committee. There's big gaps in uh meeting minutes for meetings that were held in 22 and 23. at the historical commission. We got a complaint to the attorney general's office because we had gaps in our minute
history that I was unaware of. Um and and uh most of it was that um we had no quorum for the meeting and I didn't know that I had to make a note uh make a note to the clerk that there was
no quorum. Okay. Um so there was no minutes. So the gaps were actually means that it didn't happen because you're on the forum. Yeah. Yeah. Attorney Gav's office to go through. I I think the the because I've been a
pretty active participant. We've had a couple meetings that have been cancelled because of the lack of forum. But I think that meeting minutes either they weren't I can't remember whether we had approved them or whether they weren't done. But there's like particularly in 23 and in summit 22 there's some big
gaps for meeting minutes and that's so I don't want to do that. I want to make sure that our our meeting minutes are on because we can get you can get into big trouble as Richard knows. All right. Um so let's talk a little bit about uh annual time meeting and the and the reports that were made. Um I did not see
you two gentlemen at time meeting. Maybe you were hiding in the wings. I was over on the left side. Oh, were you really? I didn't I was looking for you. Well, okay. So, for some reason, they didn't cancel kids sports this year, so
both my kids had sports out of town. Oh, was it one of the other? That's a That's always an issue. Last year they they did or rescheduled, but that's because they had a really critical school issue before time meeting. I think that was maybe that's why they did it last year.
Yeah. So, let me let me ask you what your your thoughts were about the Brooks House um and the report that was made specifically to Joe. Well, I mean, like the one thing that that I made a comment that the the committee first of all,
they've really did a lot of work in a very short period of time. And you know, that's I I never like to see that. Always like to see some deliberation. So, they went from the uh 8th of April with no no work done
to having a report done. And of course, the one big key thing that they discovered was that parking was not an issue because when the Brooks House was or not the Brooks House, when the library was built at its new location,
Yeah, I remember they had um set aside uh parking specifically for the Brooks House and the parking lot at the library is much bigger than it needed to be because of the Brooks House. So that kind of took a lot of air out of those
on the Lunberg Municipal Building Design Committee that wanted to set the building on fire. Yeah. Kind of kind of, you know, it it now made one of the biggest objections that people had, you know, oh, there's no parking, there's no parking to being a non-issue. Um, the
one thing that I that I'm concerned about is they continue to want to just lease the property and the house. they um they do not want to sell the land and you know I think that um that's gonna
make it I think that's going to make it very difficult for a private enterprise to come in and you know do something positive with the Brooks house. I think if they want to spend the money that it'll that it will take that they would probably want to have control of the
property not just have as a long-term lease. And then the other thing, I didn't realize this and I'm not sure if it's actually the case, but according to uh the report that was given, um if the property is leased, then all of the prevailing wage rules and those types of
things still apply. Um and that may make uh restoration of the Brooks House more expensive. Now, the one thing that I know from having worked for the government is that prevailing wage for structures that are
residential um are much different than prevailing wage rules for structures that are more commercial, you know. So, if someone uh did actually agree to lease the property and and do the uh the
work on the Brooks House, prevailing wage might be just what the current wage would be for the types of tradesmen that would show up at the Brooks House. I mean, this is not, you know, a 50s story skyscraper in downtown Boston, you know,
where you have unionized workers making, you know, $50, $60 an hour, you know, because it's a house structure, resident residential structure, you know, your tradesmen for that type of facility are probably going to be making what the prevailent wage rate. In fact, there's
actually two I know from when I worked at the Air Force, there was actually two different uh wage rates. One was for residential work because we had a lot of housing on base and that was much closer to what the actual rate was for anybody who showed up to do work at a house
versus what was going to take place at the base buildings. So, you know, but I think it would be cleaner and easier if that piece, you know, if there was not this bias that we want to sell the property, you know, yeah, they're wanting to sell the house if somebody
wants to move it, which I think is a stretch, but you know, so I and I made that as a comment at the meeting. I said, you know, I'm glad to see that we made some progress. Um but I think that uh you know there should be no restriction on whether it's sold or
leased depending on what the individual that might want might have interest in it. The other thing that I asked separate from the town meeting but as part of the last Lunenburgg municipal building design committee was that when the proposal is actually crafted and put
together that there is um a a process whereby you have to evaluate a proposal but you have like a a section that says these are all the things we think you could use with the with the Brooks house. you know, all the use allowed by,
you know, the village village district zoning laws. But to but to put a section in there that says, but if you have another idea that's not covered under our village district zoning requirements, um, tell us what it is and we'll evaluate that, you know. So, I I've
asked specifically for that type of language to be in any kind of a project development agreement that might be sent out as part of a request for proposal. The other thing that I did uh separate from the discussion at time meeting was
I sent an email to um the time manager and uh I suggested that she look at both the gas station project you know north of Main Street that's owned by the town it's not part of town the town property
base and the Brooks house and look at developing common language for a project development agreement. for both both parcels, you know, like how do you how do you sell it? You know, how do you ensure that that the buyer or the
leaser, depending on how you approach it, um how do you how do you establish um you know, some sort of a performance requirement that they have to meet or the property reverts back to the town? You know, there's a couple ways of doing that. One would be to have a performance
bond, you know, that would last for five years or, you know, some sort of a clause that says if you haven't started working on it or if you haven't done something that meets the use requirements that the property would revert back to the town of Lunberg. Um I
says and and look at that both parcels and and maybe even consider packaging both parcels for and for one entity. You know that it might be something that that now somebody looks at and says oh I got this piece and I got this piece. So
maybe I can um you know work on those both together and get some economy of scale by having you know one one project manager you know one crew of tradesmen working at both facilities. She hasn't responded to that. Um, but I think Oh, and then I there was one other
suggestion that I made and I don't know what's going to happen with this one and that is both the 925 uh gas station and the Brooks House. I think they ought to be pulled out from underneath the Lunberg municipal building design committee and maybe uh
ask the economic development committee to take on that responsibility to help develop a project agreement so that we don't have that we have people that are in the business role like the economic development committee has people that have businesses you know and and let and
let them look at it and provide some sort of guidance on how these two parcels could bring you know some additional tax revenue to the town. So, um like I said, I sent an email to her separately after town meeting um about the Brooks House and
925 and and hopefully she'll have a chance to look and digest. Um so those uh that's the Brooks House for me and then uh the Lunberg Min. Did you say the the better Richard? I did. That was a
long meeting. We were there from at 9:00 in the morning till like 5 after 5. Um the Lunberg Municipal Building Design Project while it received more votes in favor than against it didn't hit the
twothirds threshold. Now that project is on the ballot. It's u on the 17 May ballot. And if it gets more than 50% of the votes cast, then it would go back to town meeting in November for uh another
shot at the 2/3. I think that if it would get approved by the voters as part of the 17 May election, I think that there will be a lot of pressure for approving it at town meeting in November. Um
I not as a member of the the architecture preservation district commission but I I remain completely opposed to that project. I think it's way out of scope and you know and I've and I've been feeding information to the town manager and I said this at the at
the uh at the town meeting. We have about 40 employees that need space to do the administrative functions. Now according to Dave Blatt we have 51 employees. Not all are in what I classify. I actually did a headcount and I looked at the directory and you know
we have people like pack videographers that don't really have office space. You know they're assigned to go out and take videos of different meetings. But if we have 40 40 employees we need 8,000 square feet of space. Ritter has 5700.
And I one of the reasons why I noticed that there were deficiencies in the U meeting minutes for the Lindberg Municipal Building Design Committee is that I went back through all of the meetings we had to try and figure out what did we identify
as square foot requirements for this project. And the last or the first meeting that we had in 2024, which was in September, we had no meetings from the 8th of November 23 through the 9th of September
of 24. And at that meeting, we were discussing, you know, the fact that the select board was going to set aside $225,000 in ARPA funds for the project. And we were kind of re-engaging. committee was, you know, being called to
re-engage. And in that set of meeting minutes, we said a 4,000 square foot annex or addition to Ritter, which would give us about 10,000 square ft of renovated space, new space, 5,700 from
here, 4,000 for there. And that's more than enough to put the 40 people that we have in the administrative function. Yet what we have that went before the voters at that meeting and what will go before the voters at 2017 of May is an addition
that's 14,400 square ft which is just so out of whack you know so now the good news is I think that there's strong commitment to preserving now this is a PDC business there's strong commitment to preserving town hall and the road and
that's always good news so All right. Any any comments, questions, Richard? Anything else from that that you get gathered from the um when we sold the town sold the Jones house, we had covenants
um for that that the uh the new owners had to um fix it up to certain criteria um historical criteria and that if it didn't if they didn't meet the uh meet the requirements, it would
revert back to the house. So, we have that clause in that one. Did you guys the historic mission development? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. There's a model for the all the documents. I think they're in the file cabinet. That's good. And that that's
information that the new town manager needs to know. Yeah. Did they actually um what did they sell the house for? Was it more than just a nominal dollar or was there actually some some value? There was some value. I think it started I don't remember started over 100 and uh
there was no uh interest and then it was re uh it was put back on market I think at 53 and it sold for below that I don't remember how much below but quite a bit below because it needed a lot of work.
the town had had the uh house for um decades and never maintained it and people that were renting it from the town did maintain it. Um so it was um in dire need of repairs. Did
um were there multiple biders for the property? Um I don't recall. I don't there wasn't many. if there was and the annex um police that house next to him was the police annex.
Same thing town that the town we didn't there wasn't a a full-time facility manager like Chris Ruth back then. So the uh the all the properties
suffered. Um, so that house was pretty much run into the ground cosmetically. Um, if you looked at it, it was an eyes sore, so people wanted to tear it down, but structurally it was intact. So the
historical commission was able to lobby and advocate for that property and it was um sold also. That's good. Interesting. Yeah, those are that those are good case studies for the town to look at for both 925 as well
as for um the Brooks house. You know, the whole issue of like in in Ohio, you can't you have to auction property off in Ohio. Public property can't be sold. You know, it can be sold like but it can't be like a like a traditional private real estate transaction. you
know, you actually have to have a, you know, auctioneer and, you know, it's just the way it is in Ohio. It's a little different. Um, out west like that. No, that that great right. Yes, that's true. Um,
okay. Well, that that's all good information because I think that, you know, when you when you have uh public property and you want to give it to a private entity, there's got to be some got to be some hooks. You know, it's like you can't just get this and do nothing with it. So, that's good. That's
good information. All right. Um car and coffee for the Brooks house. Yeah, I know. That's in a lot better condition than these other two properties. Really? Oh, yeah. Wow. Was uh who who advocated for the warrant
article at time historic commission? Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we wrote that. Okay. All right. Um, any other questions about Tom meeting? Okay. Uh, one other thing about
Tom meeting. I did see um, Adam, he's obviously there and I had a long conversation with him about our joint merger. I says, Adam, I says, I know you've been busy. I says, but you know, next week I'm calling you. We're going to sit down and talk about our article merged to the historic commission and
APDC together. He says, I I understand. He says, well, we're ready to go with that. So all right um open gov do uh openg gov.com review and approval process. So, as we uh approved the
department uh the termination of applicability, the DOA uh at our meeting in April, um there wasn't any way for me to go into opengv.com and actually approve the document.
and Logan uh McConnell, who's the land use administrative assistant, he had um he had to send me an email and say, "Uh, can I do I have your permission to go into opengv.com and say you approved it?" And
I says, "Absolutely." I says, "But we need to figure out how to do that." So, I can do that without you having to call and ask me. So, I had my training last week um and and I now have a new u there's two apparently um opengv.com has a port hole for the public and then it
has a port hole for the worker bees who are reviewing approving and transmitting documents from one place to the other. And uh so I had to get an I had to get a password and and an ID to get into the the worker B side which I now have. Um
so that means that if we get a determination of applicability uh through open gogv.com we can talk about it you know we can review it through in the system and then after we have our vote I can then go into opengv.com and say we met we saw we reviewed it's
approved you know you can now do your work and that'll be all recorded and then it'll be transmitted within the opengv.com based on my direct input which I think is great. I mean, I think that this is this is absolutely positively the way to go because as it
turned out after we had our meeting Thursday night, of course, nobody's at town hall on Fridays. So on I I was going to, you know, I was like, "Oh, I got to call and tell them it's approved." And I was like, "I can't do that today." Well, then I was going to do that the first part of week. I didn't
do it on Monday. And then Logan sent me the note on Tuesday via email and says, "Did you guys approve this?" And I says, "Yeah." and he says, "Do I have permission to do that?" That won't be the case anymore, you know. So, because I will now have a reminder that that
item is open and I'll get an email that says you have to approve this, you know. So, that'll be a constant reminder, not a an email or phone call from Logan saying, "Hey, you didn't do your job." Yeah. So, yeah. Now, what that means is
that who'sever the chair come one July has to have that same capability. Well, if it's me, that's no problem. But if we decide to restructure the committee, then we have to deal with that as part of that restructuring. So, all
right. Um, just talked about the merger update, you know. So, uh, town hall is the repair projects. If you notice, um, the this building now has a posted, uh,
building permit. So FRG, the contractor that was over there is now over here. And I don't think they've done much work yet, but they're about to begin. The scaffolding I I learned today when I came in to do my absentee ballot is for the u the cellular system stuff that's
on the tower. It's not related to FRG's work. It's related to to the cellular tire stuff. Are they doing the um weather thing? No. No. No. And I think that um you know, we got to keep an eye on that. We
got to keep an eye on that through I think the the upgrade renovation project that's that's on the town $3,000. You get that weather vein done. Have that weather vein made. It's been sitting up there for 10 years maybe. You know, you know,
my hope is that um if well, of course, if the vote if the you know, if it votes if it passes next Saturday, the the municipal building design project and it goes before the town in November, we'll have a construction project this time next year. You know, the design will
probably be just about finished if that's the timetable. But that means that something could happen on uh on town hall, you know, by this time next year. If it doesn't pass on Saturday, then, you know, it's then
we're back to where we were. But I think I think that there's been a lot of progress made. And one of the things that um you know from a architecture preservation district commission perspective is that the engineers estimate proved that fixing up the old
buildings is cheaper than building 14,000 square ft of new building space and gets cheaper all the time. It does. It does, Richard. And another piece that supports this is the school committee just got its report back. They they
hired an engineer to go through uh Turkey Hill to see should they repair it or should they build a new one. And their cost per square foot came back almost the same as what the cost per square foot was produced by Taylor and Burns and his engineering staff and cost
estimating staff which says these are probably the right numbers. You know, they're using the same software. Yeah. Well, I don't know whether they're using the same software, but I think it's and and as it turns out, my son told me this today because he's on school committee and he because I had told him what I
thought it would be when they went out and heard that because dad was right. He says, "You hit it right on the head." I says, I says, "Yeah." I says, "You know, like that this is not rocket science at this point." So, the school committee is now looking at a renovation project,
which I think is great for the town. you know, we have we have greater needs for paying people and we shouldn't overspend on paying for buildings. Schools suffering big time, you know, so I think if we take a a smart approach to the building business, we'll have more money
to take people. So, all right. Um, what do you know about 763 Mass Avenue? I know something, but I want to hear what you know. Um, last I heard they were turning it into two family and building the condos
in front. What did you hear? I heard that uh Brian Gangris, he gave me this report. He went over with um the new owner. They're they're in the process. The person who owns that property is they're they haven't they didn't close as of last Thursday. Yeah. But he says
it's real close. um he was in the house. They looked at how to split the house into two and make it a duplex. He says it's it's a perfect setup for turning it into a duplex. The
other thing that he told me was that um the people that are buying the property are the same people that are building the condos condo the condo duplexes on Mass Avenue. Maybe you're thinking that's the new owner. Um but and that
and that is I was told that was be or they had the um they had money down on it or or they they had some binding agreement with the owner in
Florida that um they were going to own it because I had I I had somebody that was uh wanted to buy the house and um restore it as a single family and the um
the real estate agent said no that the uh they weren't it wasn't for sale because they got a developer had had a some tie to it. What what Brian told
me was that they're having a hard time selling those uh condos on Mass Avenue. That's that process has slowed significant. they only have one soul and uh he told me that that's going to have an impact on how fast there's development at the at
the old funeral. So they also have the um they either own or they have a um have a tie to the stone stone
stone wall or stone farm. Yeah. Oh, which kind of makes sense. The barn across the street that was previously owned by the guy that built my house. He sold it two years ago. So, not supposed to be condos like
the the other ones. Okay. Well, I think that we're going to save some of 763 Mass. It's still in demolition delay. Yeah, they're in violation of that. Well, you know, that's that's uh that's
still a piece that we need to keep an eye on though because things can always change. Yes. All right. I don't have any report on 50 Main Street. Um and then the other item it's deteriorating daily. It is report.
Yeah, it is. I go by it all the time. Okay. Um anything else that we need to talk about tonight? property own plan for fiscal 234. What is that? That was that do the notifications. I'm going to take that off of there because
until we um we get merged, we're not going to do anything with that. And did I hear correctly our budget was diminished or deleted? No, it was you know and uh we're now at $500. What I did $500. What I didn't know, Richard,
when we approved that, this is actually I think before your time when I don't know whether you were on the the APDC when we asked the town for $5,000. I thought that was a onetime appropriation, but it got built into the town budget as $5,000 a year. I I don't
know if we I don't know if we need $5,000 a year to conduct our business. We should um now we got $500 a year to have an agenda to discuss that. Um it can be signage and
um different things that could be done. I don't know if it's 5,000. I I'll add that. I'll add that. We should think about it. Seriously, what could be done with um with a budget? They deleted the historical commission or they diminished
it from 4,000 to,500. Oh wow. It was because that um of the lot of meetings where we didn't have a quorum and particularly towards the end of the winter going into spring we weren't um able to use the
budget. So, when I first got on the commission, it was always, "You got to spend all the money. Got to spend all the money or they're going to take it away." So, they'd spend the money, and we'd have we'd have drawers and drawers full of uh paper and and office supplies
and pens and, you know, everything back then. And they'd always spend the uh the money no matter what. I I didn't want to spend the money and um and uh you know do it frivolously on things that we didn't need. Um so it didn't get spent.
So um that's what they related mentioned at town meeting that um uh the new budget was relevant to what our expenses were from the previous year. So that's crazy because there's always something
historical that can be upkept or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one talked to us either. They just they're looking at it. Well, they didn't spend this. They don't need it. So, we're going to take it up, right? Especially in times where where money is tighter,
that's going to happen. I We'll add that to the agenda that and I'll send a note to Nathan to have him start thinking about that, too, since he's not here. I when we when we got to 5,000, I thought that was a onetime appropriation. I did it didn't it didn't occur to me that it
wasn't a onetime appropriation till I saw that chart. Yeah. Yeah. Time meeting was like, "Oh, so we were getting we were being appropriated $5,000 a year." Yeah. That's what Yeah. I didn't realize it. That's what He had the egg. Yeah. I thought it was a $5,000 appropriation
for that budget year that was that we were planning for, which was probably, let's see, I was here 22. So, it was probably fiscal year 23 that we asked for that money. Yeah. And we got it, you know, but I didn't realize that we were
going to get that in 24 and then 25. No, we're not going to get it in 26. No, we're only going to get we're only going to get 500. If we have special project or need, we'll have to approach the town manager for extra funds at that time.
Okay. All right. So, not done yet. So, we'll we'll put uh we'll put that on our list like what are the what are the things that we should be spending money rather than uh you know how do we spend $5,000? We should take the approach. What what are our real needs, you know,
and then we can develop a budget based on that. Yes. Yeah. I like I said until I saw that chart on Saturday, Richard, I thought we only got that one $5,000 appropriation. Oh, yeah. I understood it. And you were chair then. That's the
reason why. Yeah. Um All right. So, that's that. Um um Bill Laxo is um a good email today. He's re uh at 94. reapplied for um to join the historical commission
again. So we filled out a form and you Richard or you are you going to be part of us next next year? Yes. So I figure I can continue until the merger. Okay. And then I remember we said when the merger happens it would be filling spots. Yeah.
Restacking. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, have you wait, let me Have you filled out your Did you get an email from the time? No, I get an email. I'll reach out to him. Um, you you have the form based on the email
that I I'll send it to you again just because I have yours. Yeah. All right. So, you can just send that back. Send it fill out the form. Send it back to her. You know, the other thing is do you realize that the time has like this big set of requirements for getting
renewed? Did you know that? I I went in like when I saw the re the reappoint form, I uh I Googled the the town website and it's like, wow, look at all these things. Now, technically, this is what's supposed to happen. If you read
the uh the process that's, you know, been approved by Slick is that my reappointment letter and your reappoint letter will then have to come back to this body. What's the letter? the one that says I want to be reappointed. It's a form. It's a form. Yeah. That
form has to come back to this body and this body has to make a recommendation back to the select board that they want Tony and William to serve again on the APDC and then the select board will
then will then inter uh bring us back in for another interview. I didn't realize that that was an actual requirement. the people that recommended being reappointed. Yeah. So, you and I would have to go in to speak. Well, no. For
I'm not sure who would have to come in because these bodies are so small, but someone has to go before the select board. You say we okay it. Yeah. But the the letter is not enough. Yeah. And then and then the individuals have to be
interviewed by the SE board, too. When I read that, I thought somebody must have been misbehaving a lot of tape to get through for commissions that only have single digit members. They they must they must had somebody that they really
didn't want to ser that they did really didn't want them to serve again. Gave them three options to help. So So they come up with all these requirements, you know, like Right. So William, thank you for for hanging in with us and thank you for your for doing the work on the on
the meeting many minutes. I really appreciate your time and effort to do that. I know you're busy. You got a family much busier than my family. So thank you very much for doing that. Not at all. Okay. Um one other thing. Yeah. Go ahead. Um, I um spoke with um Leandra
Walker on the corner of um uh Whiting and Lancaster about selling your house to a a party that um is interested that I know of um in buying it, restoring it,
and would let her live there um as long as she needed to. you know, if she she couldn't get into housing, she can stay there while the house is being restored. Do you agreeable? Um, she's interested. Yeah, she's in um she's away right now.
So, um when she gets back in a few weeks, um going to set up a meeting to look at the property. I showed the uh the part that was interesting. We walked around the outside of the uh property and looked at it. It's It's
deteriorating more rapidly all the time. It's really over the years. It's really I mean every year. Yeah. Especially that roof that roof. Yeah. I'll kind of water. I'll get up there and attack those shingles on the front. Um the sill
is rotten and almost disappear in the back. And there's holes in the water table. The interior looks good looking and through the windows. Um, do you need any help with that? Please let me know. Yeah. Yeah. But u the man
interested in purchasing it is u is interested in restoring it to its original conditions. That'd be a great great ad back to the district. And it was just uh 25 years ago that property was meant was it really for its entire
life that was never deteriorated before. that was always a primo property. It's It would be really great if she, you know, if she's willing to I mean, it sounds like it's a a risk-free operation for her, you know, and like if he he
gives her a life stay, you know, then legally she's she's protected. Yeah. Yeah. And the um she's always been interested in having it, selling it to someone that was interested in storing. She said she
gets calls every week from people that want to uh buy it and flip it or maybe tear it down and build something else. Yeah. Put an ADU on it to make more money. Okay.
Um anything else? Um that's it. Um there's a note here. It says our next meeting is 12 June. Um but the master plan steering committee is looking at look was looking at that as a date by which the draft master plan would be
discussed um at a uh meeting at smoke stacks roers and everybody um all the different organizations like us the historic commission I'm responsible for doing the publicity making sure that an email goes out to all the chairs of the
various organizations that are listed on the town website know about that. Now the catch is that the date of 12 June was picked um like a month ago and no work has been
done to actually contact the owner facts. So the the master plan steering committee I've gone to two meetings now and that committee is in it's it needs
it needs a needs some more work. You know, we the the the group has like for example, so we met by Zoom on the 23rd of April and talked about all the different
information that the contractor has produced. And then we says, "Okay, well, we got to have another meeting with the contractor." We had a lot of questions about, you know, how he did it and what the what the rankings were and what he's recommending. So everybody says all right we'll have another meeting quickly
because we have this deadline of June 12th to want to start talking about a draft you know got to get the final word and it is now May what 8th May 9th we can't even set a meeting date I mean
it's like the chair sent out a note and said you know here's some options tell me which ones work and we haven't picked a date for the meaning, you know, and it's kind of like this is this is like simple, you know, say I can be there or
I can't be there, you know, but don't just not respond. Don't, you know, don't just sit there and not do anything, you know. In fact, today another email went out um or uh one of the members who I think has pretty good ideas as to how to be a good committee member, she says,
"Maybe we need to reservey again." Because I sent a note Friday that says, "Hey, have we picked a meeting date?" because I'm actually going to be traveling again next week. And uh and it was like, "No, we still don't have a consensus." And then to the day, the
note went out and said, "Hey, maybe we should repole our, you know, repole the committee again." And oh, by the way, all the people that got that email, many of them aren't on the committee anymore. It's It's Yeah, it's sad. Okay. All
right. Well, hopefully that'll get fixed. Um, anything else? So, with that said, do we wanted to slide ours to a different date? Uh, let's see. I I actually think that there's a greater prob a greater probability that we're going to have June 12th to open for us
to have our meeting. If it had moved, uh, William, I would say, yeah, let's pick a different date. But at this point right now, I think we'll be meeting on the 12th. All right. Motion to adjurnn. All right. Second. All those in favor say I. I.
Okay. Thanks for everybody for being here. Yeah.