Okay. Um All right. Uh so I'm Tony Skelmany, uh the chair of the Architectural Preservation District Commission. We have one more commission member who may be joining us. I got to make sure I look for her for her to pop up. Um,
we're doing this meeting by Zoom and what I was uh I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that um on Monday morning I was thinking well we might not have an architectural preservation district commission meeting because there wasn't anything really substantial for the for
the agenda. But then uh two things cropped up. one is uh we have a determination of applicability for 936 Mass Avenue to look at that that came in through opengv.com and then uh on Tuesday I received an
email from a prospective uh APD commissioner uh Andrew Gillis and um you know so we're we're going to go ahead and and uh formally announce the meeting has uh has begun at 7:33. Um, if you looked at the agenda, you
notice that this is a Zoom only meeting. Um, we're using Zoom with the AI feature turned on. Um, in accordance with the open meeting laws, uh, the agenda has been posted. Uh, so we have a legal meeting with quorum and agenda posting.
And, uh, this meeting is being recorded and will be on the Lunberg website sometime tomorrow for someone to look at if they care to do so. Um, with that, uh, we've called the meeting to order and, uh, under public comment, what I'd
like to do is, um, ask, uh, Patricia Porter to kind of introduce herself and tell us a little bit about, uh, her project and what, uh, what's transpiring there. So, Patricia, the floor is yours. >> Well, thank you. Hi, guys. I'm Patricia
Porter, your new future neighbor. Right now, I'm down in New Jersey. Just as a heads up, sitting in an 1880s house in the middle of a historic preservation district as well in northern New Jersey. So, I'm totally used to all of this stuff that we're going through right here. Um, we will be moving up to
Lunberg, believe it or not, for my retirement. I know people keep looking at me like, "You're going where for your retirement?" I'm like, "North." Yes. Um, my daughter and son-in-law, my daughter got married this summer. She works for the Graten Dunstable Public Schools over at Flro. Um my son-in-law works in
Bedford. Um they have actually been living in the house at 936 Massa for the last 3 years. Um they have now bought a house in Westford, are moving out and now we are ready to dive in on um finishing up the project that we want to get the house ready. Um I want to tell
you guys I am my goal is actually probably truthfully honestly after I move up I might join your quorum if you still have openings. Um I am obsessed with history. I'm a history major. My dad worked for the National Park Service. I love old houses and I'm obsessed at the preservation of old
houses. Um, pet peeve is when people get rid of doors and create open floor plans. So, we bought the house. I was very excited when I saw the house in Lunenburgg. It has most of its original molding. It has original doorork knobs. Um, it has glass that's wavy. All that
stuff makes me so happy. So, what we are proposing to do and why we needed to come to you guys is I would like to add a hallway between the main house and the barn. So, I don't know what you guys call the connector part like the annex that goes between the main house and the
barn, but I would like to add a hallway over that annex. Um, right now both the main house and that annex have a porch. They will both still have a porch. We will simply remove the porch over the ceiling over the annex and that is where a hallway will run. The primary reason I
want a hallway is right now the only way to get to the upstairs bathroom is through the master bedroom. Um, so in the middle of the night, anyone who has to go to the bathroom is going to have to trek through the master bedroom. The hallway will provide an access point to the bathroom. Um, so that people can go down the hallway and then get to the bathroom. The other main point for the
hallway is um that we now have stairs in the barn that are nice and easy to climb and and code compliant. Um, and I want to be able to use those stairs to access the upstairs and not the original staircase that's in the house that
redefineses narrow uh and uh very thin and very steep. So, we want to make sure that we can get use the other the other stairs in the barn to get upstairs. Um, then the other main thing for you guys is we are probably unfortunately going
to have to remove the the siding on the house and reside it. Um, you can see from the driveway that that siding is so pitted. Um, you can I just can't imagine that there's any ability to strip it and save it. Um, so what I'm doing is what I did in the house sitting here. Um, I
used Hardy board, Hardyboard cement, this side, the kind that looks like cedar plank. Um, in um, we're hoping to do it in what they call night gray, which is a darker gray color with white trim. Um, and truthfully, that's is that
that's everything. Correct. Ja. >> Oops. Yes, that's everything. The other reason for removing the siding was because you don't have insulation. >> We were going to insulate it from the outside in and then reside it
>> that way instead of tearing down plaster and things like that. So, >> I happen to like plaster. There's plaster behind me. I like plaster. I know nobody else does, but I do. >> So, that's it. That's what I'm here for. >> Okay. Sounds good. Uh stay stay unmuted. Uh Patricia, let me see if we have any
questions or comments from other members of the commission. William, do you have anything any questions for Patricia? >> Uh no, not on this one. >> Um one thing that I might mention is that I did email the architectural drawings uh for the project. Uh JMA
posted those to openv.com uh at about 3:00 today. And uh I did send those out to you all. Uh so if you look at the email um that I sent uh not too long ago, you'll see the um the the
the project drawings. The ones that were uh forwarded to you earlier this week were actually the structural drawings. And it's kind of hard to follow the structural drawings to see what's going on with with the floor plan. >> I I can't follow those. I need the architect, too.
>> Yeah. So, Nathan, any any comments or questions for Patricia? >> Um, uh, just a couple. First of all, did you did the did the ghost approve you getting rid of the really narrow stair staircase? Don't just >> We're keeping the narrow staircase. You're going to laugh, Nathan. I call it
the death stairs. >> They're the death stairs. >> They're staying. Um, they will just be a beautiful architectural detail that will have probably gates at the top and bottom of it so that none of my grandchildren ever accidentally climb it. >> Okay. Uh, no, this looks like a great project. Uh, uh, Patricia and I
appreciate your investing to, you know, keep, uh, one of Lunberg's great historic properties, you know, uh, moving on. I do have one question, and maybe you don't know this, Patricia, is this is the I believe this is, and just to confirm, this is the same unit that
um had some significant improvement work done on the barn last year. >> Yes. Yes, we're still finishing it. Absolutely. Yes. Yep. >> Okay. That's what I was going to ask is if that work was that was completed or just out of curiosity more than anything else. >> No, not completely. No. Um, we are working on it. We I think are about to
drywall the inside if I'm not mistaken, Jana. >> That's correct. >> Yes. And um and it is in that barn, Nathan, that we built the really nice safe stairwell to get us upstairs. And then we opened up that barn in the upstairs into the back annex area so
that we can come up and down those stairs going forward to get up to the upstairs. Um because I actually two things I don't necessarily want to remove the original staircase and secondly as you guys all know in these old houses when you have to put new compliant stairs in you lose so much of
the upstairs because it wasn't built to have those nice compliant stairs. So I would lose like a bedroom and a half up there if I did that. So instead of that, that's when I decided, you know what, it would make a whole lot more sense to just put a hallway up there and then use the barn stairwell.
All right. No, no questions. Yeah, it looks great. >> Thank you. >> Um, you haven't done uh the the proposed garage yet. Is that correct? That was >> That's correct. We have not broken ground on that yet. >> Okay. So, but your plan is still to do that, correct? >> Yes. Correct. Yep. And it will be the
same exact color as the house. >> Okay. All right. Um, so we have a determination of applicability. Um I realize that you haven't all maybe seen the uh architectural drawings but based on what
um Patricia has described uh I have seen that what she described on those drawings and uh while it's moving fairly quickly I see no reason why we couldn't take a vote to approve the determination of applicability
um with the u material that's been presented. The only the only concern that I had was um the business with replacing the wood sighting. Um but if you're going to replace wood siding, the
using the the Hardy plank is probably the very best option. You know, it's not vinyl, you know, it's not aluminum, right? >> Vinyl and aluminum. Yes. Actually, Mendum will not let me do that. The town I live in, they will not let you put vinyl and aluminum in their historic district.
>> Right. That that does that doesn't surprise me. That's been my experience as well. >> Yeah. >> So, um, with that, is there a motion to approve the determination of applicability? >> I just had one more question. I looked at the drawings which were very helpful and and great. You're demoing the the
back chimney. Is that right? >> That's correct. >> Okay. Yeah. I don't >> That is a that is not that actually the that chimney used to be used for the Franklin stoves. That's what that was. It's no longer in use for anything. So, we're going to demo that. It's actually not structurally sound.
>> Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I just want to make sure I understood the drawing. >> Yep. Perfect. No, ask all the questions away, guys. This is the point of this. >> Yeah. >> I'll make the motion to approve uh the uh determination of applicability. >> Seconded.
>> Okay. Um because we're on Zoom, we have to do a roll call. Is there any other questions or comments from Nathan or from William? All right. Um William uh what what say ye? >> I >> uh Nathan
>> I >> and I for myself. >> So the determination of applicability is approved. Uh you can proceed. I will go into opengv.com tomorrow JMA and indicate that we voted
on it and that it's approved so that you can continue to move forward. you I don't think you have your building permit for this work yet and uh which is one of the reasons why um it's in opengv.com for us >> and once uh Brian Gangress sees that
we've discussed it and it's been approved then he'll uh continue along the path of giving you uh your building permit. >> Yes. Yep. >> Right. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> So you're more than welcome to to join the rest of our discussion if you want.
If not, Patricia and Jamma, you're free to go. And JA uh or Patricia, we look forward to having you become um a new resident of Lunenburgg. And what's interesting is um you and I have some have a few things in common.
>> Um we lived in uh I used to work with the National Park Service. >> Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Where? Because my father worked there forever and I did as well. So, you and I are going to have to talk offline when I move up there. We're gonna have to have coffee somewhere. Yes. Go ahead. >> Um, I worked uh I actually ran the
National Heritage Area in Dayton, Ohio. >> And uh we were I was not a park service employee, but obviously a national heritage area is something that's directly connected to the National Park Service. I was in park service facilities and I did a lot of business
with the National Park Service. One of my best friends was the superintendent of the park. Um, and then we too moved north when when I retired. Um, we >> So, I'm not crazy. I'm gonna have you tell my husband that. >> Yeah. Yeah. We too move We too move
north. And most people who live in the Dayton area or southern Ohio when they retire, they go to Florida and a large bunch of them moved to a place called The Villages. >> Oh my god. My father-in-law lived in the Villages. Totally lived in the Villages.
>> Yes. So, um, you know, but we said, "No, we're moving north to Massachusetts." And, uh, we we our son and our, uh, daughter-in-law and our two grandsons live in Lunenburgg. >> Well, and that's why we're moving up. I've got one child. >> They just bought a house in Westford.
I'm like, we're moving north. Like it or not, honey, that's where we're going. >> Well, you know, uh, so we have a lot in common, and I appreciate your support for doing good work with the the old house at 936 Mass Avenue. Well, well, you'll appreciate my dad's job as the
National Park Service was restoration. He took over um Martin Van Beern's homestead in upstate New York in a little town called Kinderhook, New York. The park service bought it and he restored it back to how it was when Van Beern was there. >> So, I have been raised on this since I was a baby. In fact, I have to tell you
guys a really fun story and then I'll let you finish your job. My daughter buys the house in Lunenburgg. She her in-laws, the house was built in 1950s. Her in-laws say to her, "Oh, is it a new house or an old house?" And she goes, "It's a new house." And they go, "When was it built?" And she goes, "N50." And they go, "That's an old house." And she
goes, "No, not when you've grown up in 200y old houses." >> Yeah. That's not That's not an old house. >> That's not an old house. I'm like, "I'm sorry. No." So that's pretty. So I am I'm passionate about it, guys. Truly, I am. I fell in love with that house when I saw it and I saw the potential of it.
And as I said, when it had wavy glass and original brass doorork knobs, I was sold. And um my goal is, as Jamma knows because I keep she asks me things and I'm like, "It needs to still look like a barn." Um I'm obsessed about keeping the history of that beautiful little New
England town the way it is. So I'm not kidding you. When I'm retiring from teaching, when I come up there, I might just join you guys. You never know. >> Well, if we have a vacancy, it would be a perfect fit for you, Patricia. >> Thank you. Thank you guys. You have a great evening. I am gonna go. >> Okay. All right. Jamma and Patricia,
thank you for your input. We're glad to get this approved and so you can continue on on your way with the project. >> Thank you so much, guys. It was a pleasure to meet you. >> Have a good night. >> Thank you. >> Good night. >> Okay. All right. So, uh, our next piece of business, uh, which I'm really glad, uh,
we we have this individual. I got an email from Andrew Gillis uh saying, "Hey, uh I was on the historical commission in Wuburn and uh my wife and our small child has moved to Lunberg and now I'm interested in looking at maybe perhaps joining the architectural
preservation district commission." Um Andrew, uh the floor is yours. uh you can give us a little brief uh background on yourself uh and why you want to join this and then we'll talk a little bit about what the process is for you to put your name in the in the hat or your hat
and the name and uh move forward with becoming a volunteer for the Architecture Preservation District Commission. >> Sure. Yeah. So, um I'm originally from uh upstate New York, but I've been uh moved out here for for college uh 15 year 16 years ago and uh
never never left. And um I kind of slowly worked my way from living in the city, then got married, bought a house in Wuburn, outgrew that and and decided uh you know, when we were looking around someplace a little more space, good
schools and everything. and my wife uh my wife and I really really love Lunenburgg and are glad that we moved here. So we moved here back in June. Um I'm passionate about history, you know, just kind of a I'm a structural engineer, so I didn't really
study it much, but I would say most of my reading is is all history, non-fiction. I I got involved on the historical commission in Wuburn. Um, unfortunately the attitude in Wuburn was a little different. I think they, the historical commission was great, but a
few years before I moved there and joined, they had tried to establish a architectural preservation district and the vote failed and there was hopefully they were ramping up to maybe there was a little impetus to do it again. It's tough to kind of get the people the the
drivers of something like that willing to go through the process again, but I think maybe it'll happen soon. Um, but I was it was a little uh one of the things being on the uh historical commission was there there are some things that you know the most you can do there is is do
a demolition delay. Um, and you know, there's really not a ton that you can do. But we did some other good work and and luckily you know with the 250th celebration you know kicking off a year early for New England and you know for year earlier than for the rest of the
country I was on a committee that uh that uh oversaw a plaque in the dedication of a park at there's a there's a portion of an old road that runs from Wuburn to Lexington where you know the militia marched on the alarm you know back on back on uh back in
1775. five and uh so we were able to get a monument done there and we had a a nice ceremony and so I' I've really enjoyed that part of living in Wuburn and and was sad to sad to leave that cuz I felt like I was building and it you know building a community and becoming part of a community and when you move
kind of far away from home it's uh it you you want to establish some roots in a community especially now with a kid um as far as you know professionally it also lines up with my interest you know it's I would say more of my work. Well, a a small portion of my work is in um
preservation adjacent a lot of times kind of um you know preservation itself is we have people at my company who do it but it tends to be more on our like building envelope building technology side. I would say the structural normally stuff is buried and people
don't care as much. I I've done a little bit less of you know woodframed. I've done some wood frame um but a lot of historic masonry um down in Staten Island and 18 well it's supposed to start construction soon hopefully but we
we've gone through construction documents on renovation of an 1820s um building uh in Staten Island for a museum. I've done some uh like an 1870s building at Tufts renovation there. You know, a few few Massmasonry buildings in
Harvard Square and um hopefully uh that I'm in the process of writing a proposal for for a Harvard owned building in Shrewsbury that was built in the 1700s. So, we'll we'll see. We're teaming with an AR an architect invited us to to team on that and and hopefully you never know
those those some of those jobs tend to be competitive. But yeah, I'm I I would say I'm a little more amateur on the architecture side, but but passionate about buildings, passionate about history, and you know, and um yeah, very
very interested in in in joining. >> Um any questions for Andrew from William? >> Uh no. Well, welcome to Lunenburgg. Uh I'm a recent transplant too about oh god
2020 now so going on six years. >> Okay. >> Um what part of Lunberg did you move to? >> I'm over on Arbor Street. >> Okay. >> So yeah. >> Nathan. >> Yeah. Know I I think uh thanks so much for your interest. I mean it's uh you'd
be a great addition. It's it's crazy. Uh we got two people in this meeting tonight interested in joining who would be fantastic additions. Um, and uh, yeah, I just, you know, maybe if you had a couple more diplomas, Andrew, I'm not sure three is going to cut it for this. >> No. Um, that's my that's my engineering
license. Sorry. Two two diplomas. I have a masters, so yeah. >> Yeah, I'm just messing around. Um, no, no, but uh, yeah, we'd love to have you. And, uh, yeah, welcome to Lunberg. Um, I also grew up in upstate New York. Uh, Scotia, New York. Uh, >> oh, Amsterdam.
>> Oh, no way. >> That's 10 minutes down the road. >> Yeah. Yeah, 100%. >> Yeah, >> that's really cool. Really cool. Um, so uh yeah, so you know, I know where you're from there. Um, >> yeah, >> but uh yeah, I've been in Ludenberg for about just 20 years and uh raised my
kids here. So yeah, good choice. I think you guys will enjoy it a lot. And uh and we can talk, you know, we can talk more sometime about, you know, uh I think it's it's interesting to see what you I mean, you you clearly like I mean, you got way more you you're way more qualified for this uh volunteer position
than I am. And uh but it's interesting to see what you were saying about um your experience in Wurn is is our building our building in uh might have been from Wurn too. I think uh he might
have been in Wurn for a while as well. Uh what's with Brian Gingri? I'm not sure, but you could you should talk to him. Uh I think he might he might live there still or I don't know. Anyways, or he was maybe building inspector there, but sorry, I'm babbling here. Um but the interesting thing is you were talking about how all you could do was a
demolition delay there and uh that was all we could do uh in Lunenburgg until we got this architectural preservation district. So it what the kind of the origin story for this committee is that there was interest in town in updating the zoning for the village center
district. So it would have more potential for um commercial you know mixed use like a combination of higher density residential and um also you know businesses and retail you know various
types of businesses. Um the one of the concern big concerns was this is where a lot of the iconic historic properties are located and we didn't want enhanced commercial capabilities and potentially incentives to have to give someone a
both the license and the motivation to to knock down those buildings. So that was where we were able to get this set up and um have that kind of protection which is not as widespread as you might imagine. So, >> yeah. >> Well, it's great that the town got it
done. Like I said, it's I know it was it was tough on the people who tried to get it done in Wuburn and and that's Yeah. How how long ago was the preservation district established? >> Oh, I think it was probably about 2014 or 15. >> Okay. So,
>> 2015. Yeah. >> Gotcha. So, rel relatively recently then. Yeah. That's >> the the architecture preservation district uh was born the same time that the uh village district was born and they're a direct overlay and that was
the village district zoning changes were to encourage more um more business in the the the village district which I like to call downtown Lunenburgg. you know, the and uh with the zoning changes that were coming with the the village
district, which really the village district really drove a bunch of changes to the to the town's u zoning and planning regulations. So, the idea was we want to protect these iconic buildings and and at times it's been a
challenge. You know, sometimes the town seems to be its own worst enemy with regards to fulfilling the intent of the architectural preservation district commission. Sure. >> Um we have uh you know town hall which I highly recommend uh that maybe you and I
go meet and take a tour of town hall when you have some free time. Andrew, >> I' I'd love to. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because uh I'm on the Lunberg Municipal Building Design Committee. I'm there because of uh you know the architectural preservation district commission uh the the Lunberg municipal
building design commission or committee has been trying to figure out how to improve a town administrative office space and it's been a struggle and uh and it continues to be a struggle but it involves town hall involves uh the Ritter building which was a public
library at one point in time built in 1909 so but it's it's all good stuff let me let Let me uh tell talk to you a little bit about our time commitments. Um >> sure. >> Um the commission meets uh generally monthly on the second Thursday of the
month. Um we were driven to that date by uh the former chair of the architecture preservation district commission uh Richard McGrath. And Richard is actually the chair of the historic commission in Lunenburgg. We have a historical
society. We have um a historical commission and we have the architectural preservation district commission. And the historical commission in Lunberg is governed by the same set of laws that the historical commission was in Wuburn.
Um the architecture preservation district commission is governed by a bylaw. So there's a significant difference and it has different rights and privileges as a result of that bylaw. Um the historical society uh is um you know they're they're not in the
business of trying to preserve u you know the buildings and the structures. They're in the business of talking about the town's history and they operate out of a building that's just uh west of the Ritter Memorial Building which is on Mass the corner Mass Avenue and
Lancaster Avenue. >> Yeah, I've seen the sign. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, um, we meet monthly. Um, we, uh, have a representative from the historical commission, Jennifer Sanderson, who was on the me who who thought our meeting was last night. She
couldn't, she finally realized that she was a day early. I'm sad that she couldn't join us because I'm sure you and her would have something in common since she's our representative from the historical commission. Um, I highly encourage that you look at the architectural preservation district
bylaw before you make a final decision. Look at the architectural preservation district guidelines and those are both located on the architectural preservation commission district commission website page for the town of Lunenburgg. And then uh the way the
process would work, I forwarded you the volunteer form this morning. The way it would work is that you would submit that form. Uh the town has gotten hip and trendy here. When when myself, William, Nathan, we all had to fill out a PDF
form, scan it, and load it and send it back to the town. It's nice to know that the volunteer form is now live and and on the website. So when you push the button submit, it'll probably I think it goes to Melissa Richards who is the town administrative town manager's
administrative assistant and then uh it'll go before the uh select board. Now generally the select board will ask us you know what we know about you and have we had a chance to chat with you. So we're we're one step ahead of the process as a result of you contacting me
and and being a part of the conversation tonight. So, I would anticipate that, you know, after you look at the bylaw and the guidelines and if you're still interested and you fill out the form, I would not be surprised if you're not a member of the commission by the time we meet in April. So, oh,
>> that'd be fantastic. Yeah, it moves. It it won't it can move very quickly at this point in time unless Now, I do know that the select board and the town manager, they're up to their eyeballs and budget discussions uh because the town is probably going to have an override vote and uh they've been having
a lot of uh discussion with finance committee, with the school committee um about about that. But if they're not too consumed, we could have you as a member of this commission um by the April meeting. So >> yeah, that that'd be that'd be great. I
mean, it's I'll take a look through everything, but yeah, I I would say um I'm fairly certain I'll be be filling out that form pretty soon. And I had seen a while back my wife had sent me something because she had been incourage, you know, we've been busy with moving in in June and getting handling some projects and she had been
encouraging me to to join something here and I'm like, I'll get around to it. I'll get around to it. She sent me a link for the thing, but I figured I I'd much rather before applying, you know, reach out to you guys, attend a meeting, make sure, you know, so that way I'm not just coming in uh coming in as an
unknown, you know. >> Glad glad you're interested. Okay. Um if there's no other questions from you, I let we're going to continue with our last item of business for the uh the meeting today, and that is to discuss uh 50 Main Street. We're supposed to meet
with the uh property owners on the 16th at our 16th April meeting. And Nathan, I'm going to rely on you to make sure that they know that we want to meet with them on the 16th of April. And then and we'll do that meeting in person. Um Andrew, we've been meeting more
regularly via Zoom because our agenda hasn't been that robust. >> And um but but we got a building in 10. It's an old church building. It's 50 Main Street where the steeple is looking pretty raggedy and actually the steeple
itself has already been taken down and the base of the steeple looks raggedy and we're trying to keep that from going by the way of uh demolition by neglect. So, we're going to meet with the the owners of the structure hopefully on the 16th of April. We sent them a letter. Uh
Nathan drafted that. he's taken the lead on making sure that they're aware of the fact that they're not in compliance with the bylaw. And um like I said, you may be a part of that discussion as a formal member of the commission. And Nathan, if you have any indications that they're
not planning on showing up, please let us know as soon as possible. >> I Yeah, I need to send them the second letter and I will do that uh by the end of next week. >> Okay, great. Great. And then we're moving our meeting date uh by one week because I'm going to actually be in Seattle and I didn't want to do the
meeting by Zoom. Um so we're going to we're going to push the meeting back to the third Thursday of April. Um and I got to make sure that the conference room that we normally use, which is in the basement of the Ritter Memorial Building, Andrew, uh to make sure that that's available for us. If it's not, we
might have to meet in the uh the library. I'll I'll confirm that tomorrow, Nathan, to make sure that the bu the room is available for us so that we don't have any problems with sending our guests off to the wrong location.
All right. Um, one last thing, uh, on a minute is approving the meeting minutes. William, I always appreciate the time and effort that you put into doing meeting minutes and never feel like just because they're coming to us, you know,
not too far from the start of our meeting. That's great. I I really appreciate the time and effort that you put into it. And uh so with that, I'll ask is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes from our 12th February 2026 meeting?
>> Uh motion to approve those meeting minutes. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Seconded. >> All right. Um, any further discussion? All those in favor say I. And I'll do the roll call. William, >> I. >> Uh, Nathan, >> I. >> And I for myself. So, our meeting
minutes for the 12th February meeting, they are approved. And, uh, is there anything else that needs to come before us tonight? All right. Um, then I'll look for a motion to adjourn our meeting. >> Motion to adjurnn.
>> Second. >> Okay. Um, no further discussion. Uh, William, >> I >> Okay, Nathan. >> Sorry. >> Hi. >> And I for myself. All right. With that, uh, we have concluded our meeting. Na.
Andrew, if you have any questions, I think I gave you my telephone number. Yep. And, uh, and if you do, feel free to call me anytime. Great. Thanks very much. Thanks for joining us this evening. >> Great meeting you guys. >> Yeah. Great meeting you, Adrian. Great meeting you. Bye. Good night. Good night.