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the open meeting law. We will call the meeting to order. Uh we will open with comments. Any comments from the board? Mr. Rabbit. Uh I just want to point out that you're going to have to really put up with me for one more
meeting. Kind of. Not really, but you kind of uh essentially May 17th is the town election and that's when I the day before that's when they have the votes. So anyway, uh we have one meeting left and I will try and hopefully uh talk
about the package and we can button some more of that up before I go. I would and it's kind of an open thing. I have made application for the council on aging. Can I interrupt you? No. Your microphone is faced way over there. That's a good point. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Okay, so anyway, anything you missed? You probably you didn't really miss anything, trust me. Sorry. In fact, everybody smiles out there, I'm sure. Uh I am uh put an application in to join the Council on Aging and the intent is
to continue this program from their side and help them as much as I possibly can with the stuff that I do know. and act as a liaison. Yeah, that's the intent right now. Who knows? Uh there's potentially
two openings and maybe I shouldn't tell anybody else, but uh nothing happens until when they finish their cycle. So there we go. I'm not sure what that meant. Okay. The uh cycle with regard to the council on aging, their election to
members, and then they have to go before the select me to get them new members approved. So, it's an appointed position or an elected position. It's an appointed position. Okay. Yeah. It has to be approved by the council itself. You have
to go before them and represent why you belong there. So, that's that's the intent. The intent is to we'll talk about that gets all nailed down soon. Thank you. Uh, as far as we know, there's only one meeting, but there's a possibility we could have another one.
So, that's case. I'll be there. Um, okay. Any other public comment from the board? No. Any public comment from the public? There is no public here in the building. I see anyone on Zoom. No. Seeing no one on Zoom. Let's move right
into the status report from the principal assessor. Okay. I have my monthly report. It's two pages now. Copies. [Applause] Okay. All righty. We received six of Butter's list for the month. Um
requests. Yep. A Butters List requests. Um in addition um we received uh 14 additional exemptions that are waiting approval um from the board of assessors uh tonight. Uh and um we received a
total of uh 132 real estate exemptions to date. So it's quite quite a few quite a few. Yep. And um of the total 37 real estate and personal property abatements, I just want to give you an update. 20 have been
granted for a total of $18,8312. Uh 13 abatements were denied. Two have been withdrawn uh and do not want to proceed with an inspection uh and two abatements are to be reviewed tonight in executive session. So we will be done tonight. Nice. In addition to
that uh we also have a settlement for a pending ATB case which hopefully we uh we will settle tonight as well. And as far as the uh motor vehicle excise tax abatements, we received 41 in the past month. Hopefully that's going
to settle down for a little bit until the next commitment comes out. And Denise continues to follow up on the building permits inspections. We're actually going to hopefully start working on growth in the next week. So, we have to get focused on that. Been
kind of busy with abatements and everything in the office. Uh I also had a meeting with the uh building department, the board of health conservation um departments to set up a plan uh for
the notification and an of ANR and map changes for the assessing department. Uh we have not really been notified about this and it's caused quite a few problems with the deeds and uh mapping issues. So this is kind of a a new plan and hopefully it's going to make things
a little easier. If I may interrupt. Yeah, I I I thought we had an agreement with them before, but apparently there was no followup at their end. So, we're now we have a formal agreement with them. We do and I received uh actually the ANR list from Logan which goes back
to I think 2018. Oh. So, there's quite a few ANR plans. The only thing is uh the plans weren't attached to that file. So, I'm hoping that if he can provide the plans at least that way I can go back and backtrack. But I have been working with
uh CI to try to resolve some of those issues. Uh and I think there's only like about eight parcels that we could find that aren't linking properly. Wow. So, we've made a big dent. I think when we first started, I think it was way over 50.
So, congrats. Making some progress. But we still have deed problems coming in every week. every I had one uh yesterday that I spent about an hour and a half working on trying to sort it out, but but it's good. We're we're making progress. So, that's 42 miles and only
eight more inches. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And uh I also wanted to mention that Andrea from the board of health uh was also part of that meeting and she has offered to forward any sewer plans that she has and she's offered to assist our office with interpreting some
of these deeds. Apparently, she has some expertise with deeds. She does historically. So, um I think this is a great offer. Yeah. Um um congratulations. You're able to Yeah. find her. Yeah. Thanks, Andrea. So, it's uh Yes. kind of some relief because uh
if she can turn around faster than we can and and the biggest problem is that we find is that you you reference the deed and it may have three or four parcels but then it said excluding like lot one and three well what are lot one and three so there's really no
identification for that so we don't know what that is so that's the biggest challenge is right the uh lack of information so we've made um some headway there Any expertise and help that you can get with that is welcome. It is
telling you it's a mess. Yeah. Uh I also wanted to give you an update on vision appraisal. They sent us a revised almost like a contract for the first year, a revised letter just stating what's going to
change. Let me give you a copy of that. Uh we did get a credit of uh $500 for the mailing since we took over the mailing and we're sent we sent out a postcard. So we will be getting a credit on that. It's actually been pushed out a
little bit. Uh they should finish up by June 30th, but they will start back up on inspections on May 12th. How many how many did they need to get? Um we need to get 500 done by uh June 30th. But they have done he's done 112
right to date. So okay. Yeah. Mr. Chairman, if I might ask. Okay. The credits we're getting, are they coming back to our department? It should be credited off the bill. Off the bill. So that credit should be coming to us and you can buy cartridges
for your printer. Uh I need actually I'm going to have some extra printing. You will have to put in a rack and see if it's approved. Yeah. Yeah. That's those extra costs are going to come out of our budget. Uh because I had to have new postcards
printed. Mhm. The postage. Yeah. And then even the time it's been quite a bit of time for us to devote to it. But but I haven't got a cost back on the postcards. But yeah, hold on to that. Just a copy. I'm sorry. In in answer to your question, yes, we'll get a credit
for $500, but we're going to spend some of that. Yeah. Right. That's fine. So, it's not like we now have five $500 we can go play with. We can't. Yeah, we have. And and perhaps the point I'm trying to make is the budget is reallyight. Really tight. I mean, to the point where we can't use the printer
because we have no cartridges. That's getting pretty dicey. Well, it's just we we have to watch we're trying to watch our costs and we're getting towards the end of the year. So, it is tight and we're trying to do everything we can to save time. And I'm
hoping that they will only charge us for the ones that they inspect. So, hopefully the less inspections that they're doing, that will help offset some of our costs, extra costs that we've had to incur because of it. Uh, and what's been happening is when people
call and they do not want the visit, we just pull the uh, every Monday we give the cards to the inspector. We pull the those cards out and we have a list that we have these residents on. So those aren't those properties obviously
uninspected, right? So that comes out of the 500 pile. Um I'm hoping that at least we'll get the bill for June 30th and it'll be less and then whatever we extra cost it'll hopefully even out. You can acrew for
that bill. Can't you send there's a mechanism for saying just because we haven't spent the money yet we can hold it off the side. Okay. That you mean you're asking if she can encumber something for Yeah. for
this fiscal year, right? Um I think that's a question for Izzy. Yeah. Yeah. Because um he he runs that. I agree. I'm just saying suggesting that perhaps you Hey, did you know that can we do this? Can we hold on to that money? Well,
we'll have to see because I'm watching it right now in all of the accounts, the assessing accounts. Uhhuh. So hopefully in May I'll have a better idea. So we are in fact moving some money around within the accounts, right? Yeah. Yeah, already. Yeah, but we do have the money
allocated for the cyclicals, right? The money for the extra postage and the printing of the postcards is additional. So, we'll have to see. I'm just so sure we don't lose it. $500. It doesn't get withdrawn, we'll cover that. Yeah, hopefully. Yeah, hopefully
it will. Hopefully. But, yeah. So, that's an update on that. Um, and again, they do plan on finishing up by uh July and then it'll stop back up uh on uh August and it'll go through
March. And uh we're going to continue to do the same thing. We we're trying to give the residents two or three weeks notice. the way it was working before, it just wasn't enough time and then someone would call and he'd already have the
cards and it was just creating so much chaos for our department that we we need to get the cards out ahead of time. We had at least one instance in which the person sent us a message on Tuesday morning at 5:00 in the morning. Yeah. And he had already picked up the cards on Monday. So he arrives at their
facility on Wednesday and the people who called were not pleased. Pleased. Yeah. So we're trying to make sure we avoid that situation again in the future. It's just we had so much volume of calls coming in
and just to keep track of everything. It's it's just a lot to only have a Oh yeah. a limited amount of notice. Yeah. So um Linda, if I could ask. Yeah. Uh with regard to the Omni Vision government solutions document you shared towards the bottom is a total measured
re uh resident residences that's 112. What's listed 41 mean? That means that he either met someone at the door and they answered questions about the interior like he may ask about the heat, the flooring, but he didn't go in. He
didn't physically go in. Uh and um they met him at the door. He can only go in if he's invited. I don't know if he was invited. So, I think that percentage uh seems a little high. Well, it's unusually high because I've done this work in the past and out of 112 getting
into 41 or meeting somebody at the door just just seems kind of high to me. But Reena kind of agreed. Does that mean that they basically refuse to allow him to to do a visual inspection? No, that means that someone answered the door, answered his questions at the door on
the record card or he got it physically into the property. So that 41 combines both both answering questions at the door and inspecting the interior of the of the property. So if they come back and file an abatement on something and
we weren't allowed in the house to see, uh, how do we know? Well, there's we do an inspection. There's a code. There's different codes. So, he has a code for answering questions at the door and another code for interior inspection.
So, but your question was around abatements. And if they file for an abatement, we then go inspect. Yes. Yes. Regardless of whether it's been looked at. Yeah. And then if they refuse the inspection, it's denied. We know. Yeah. Okay. We also use uh MLS to review the
sales. So if someone doesn't let us in and the property sold, we have the photos to go by and make a determination based on that. So we do review all the sales also. So this is essentially a revised
contract. Yeah. And an update? Yep. Having said that, did anybody here at town hall approve the revised contract? Um or is there any need to do that? Well, I sent it to Julie and copied um
Jen on it as well. Really, the only thing that's changed is the $500 credit and just the time table. Uhhuh. Well, those are both changes to both changes. Yeah. So, I haven't really heard anything back, but I did copy on it. As long as they're familiar with it. Yeah.
I just want to make sure that it's it's gone through their office, right? Yeah. That it it's not just happening because it happened. Yeah. It's happening because someone knows about it and thank you. Yeah. Uh I believe there will be a
follow-up letter that will be sent uh by Pat Donovan of vision. So uh he will send further notification on this. You mean I'm sorry. You mean at the end or when what do you say? No, there is
um see I think he's going to send a change with the credit that was actually in my email. So he's going to actually send probably a revision to that contract crediting us the $500. It was like a great So this is
just this isn't really revision of the contract. It's notice of revision. It's notice of the revision thing. Okay. Thank you. the page of the contract you will be send sending. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. So that's it for vision. And um the last item that I have
is concerning chapter land applications and uh we've actually updated for the applications that we've received. We've updated them in vision appraisal. Uh and um we have quite a few properties where
no application was received for FY2026 chapter land application. So Robin has sent out two letters asking people to send in the application. So we wanted to get approval to bring these properties back
to full value because we have given notice and if they don't send in the the notice include the fact that we would be bringing them back to full value. We did say that. Okay. If they didn't respond. Okay. And we gave them two chances. Yeah. Two letters. Okay.
Yeah. So, in addition to that, um we have I I have a question. Yeah. When are these chapter land applications due? Uh they were due uh by um March 1st. Okay.
Yeah. So, they've had two notices actually. I'm sorry. December 1st. December. I Yeah. I thought it was So that's a long time. It is. That's a long time. Um a lot more than March 1st. Yeah. Um so it's been it's been quite 90 days. Yeah. At least it has. December
1st. Yeah. Yeah. More than that. Yeah. Keep adding. And that was 120 50 something like 120 I think. Yeah. So they've had more than enough time. We've also had some sales and they've gotten two notifications in addition to already knowing that it was due in December.
Okay. Yeah. And you've had sales. We've had sales where we have no lean. So we have no what? I'm sorry. Lean. There's no lean. Lean on the chapter land. On the chapter land. So we don't get notified. We should have a lean. We have no lean and no application on these
sales. So they're currently still in chapter land. We need to bring those out as well to full value. The ones that were I don't understand. So So the properties that were in chapter land Yeah. that were sold. When
they're sold, we need to the buyer needs to submit a new application to remain in chapter land. I see. And a lean also has to be put, right? And they haven't on the property. And I'm following. They have to pay the $105 and submit the lean to the registry of deeds. And that
hasn't been done. How many properties is that? Sorry. Go ahead. Finish that. Yeah. Um I think we have about five five or six of the sales. Could you do a very brief explanation of what chapter land is for anybody that's watching and is not
familiar? We have uh three classes of chapter land. Essentially, the homeowner gets a discounted rate. Uh we have forestry which is chapter 61. Um we have agriculture which is 61A and they can be you know uh
producing honey and selling honey, hay, hay, whatever. um they have to or maple syrup they have to actually have um two years of of be selling for two years. So they have to submit it on their income tax return as to what their sales are.
And then the uh last one is uh recreation which is 61B and that's where land has to be kept in an open and natural state. So those pieces of property, you said homeowner does doesn't have to be a home. Um but those pieces of property get a significant
discount on their tax rate. They do by being in chapter and they want to come out of chapter. The implications are well when they come out of chapter uh if they sell the property, the town has the right of first refusal. So purchase and sales
agreement has to be submitted to the select board. They vote on that. Uh it's supposed to go to the open space committee too. Yeah. Once once a decision is made then um at that point if it stays in the same
use the old lean can be released and the buyer must fill out a new application. Bless you. God bless you. And issue a new lean if it's within the same use. If it's not within the same use, the um seller would
have to pay the roll back taxes. Yes. As part of that at closing, it's a deferral as long as they can Yeah. use the same property. Well, it's tax relief and we only roll back three
years. So, if they've had it deferred for 20, they only we only roll back three. So, it's not the same as a deferral where you would accumulate over time. It's actually when we calculate it's five five years. Yeah. Whatever I I couldn't remember what the number was off the top of my head but I knew there
was a limit. Yeah. So what we do like the forestry is uh 10 acres that's 61 61A is a minimum of 5 acres and 61B is a minimum of five. So if somebody's in forestry and they have say 12 acres of
land the two acres would be for the the house and then the 10 would remain in chapter and with um the other two 61 A and B they have to have a minimum of five. Uh the only exception is if it's a
contiguous property. If one parcel has three and the other has two, that can make up the the can can be combined. Can be combined and can qualify for 61A or 61B. That's kind of the exception. There's a lot of
detail. Well, I just wanted to give a brief overview. It's it's a it's a way for people to Yeah. to utilize their land but not have to pay as high a tax on it as though it were buildable for a house. Right. Thank you. You're
welcome. So, as far as the the five sales, uh we're going to actually um send another letter to them asking them to file the lean because we asked for the application. Now, they need to file the
lean or we'll I will make up the lean if we hear back from them and then they'll need to file it with the registry deeds to stay in chapter land. Otherwise, we're going to bring it back to full value. We go through all those steps that we just talked about. Yep. Fabulous. So, that's going to be the additional letter that's going to go out
for the the sales, right? Kind of a wake up letter. Well, we we actually that's something that really hasn't been addressed. So, Robin's really worked hard on looking at all the chapter land. The other thing we
probably need to do is start inspecting some of the recreational properties as well. I think that's something that Denise and I will be doing. So, we should follow up on those as well. I think um in some cases, like when you just buy a property, you don't really know all of that stuff about chapter
lands. Yeah. Oh well, if you're buying a property that has a reduced tax, you should know why it has a reduced tax and then try to figure out if you can maintain that reduced tax. Should doesn't mean having said that doesn't mean there will be a lot of new purchasers especially who might not be
familiar with that. Yeah. Yeah. Typically the attorney does assist in this, but for some reason, I don't know why this wasn't done with a lot of them, but we're making sure that it's being taken care of. And
is that any sale or just arms length? Should just be any sale, I would assume. I wasn't sure. Yeah. as if you know you're selling your property to your child, they should know about well that stuff and in that instance uh as long as it stays in the same use,
right? There's so much I was just curious I and that's doesn't need to be answered right now, but it's and I don't know there might be an exception for a family member also. Um I would I'll have to look at that. I don't often talk about I'm just curious. It just there's so
many um different things. I've actually kind of started. We're going to do like a little book on it just because there's just so much involved with each of them like like how to read your vision card. Kind of like that. Yeah. Your look on that idea. Would you I
don't know why I got that look this week. Okay. No problem. That was that didn't come from me. Oh yeah, how to win friends and never mind and influence people.
So lastly, our our goals for within the next month are to continue inspections and to start tracking the 2026 growth. Uh get back to that. Uh, and also, um, we're going to continue to go through these chapter land files, try to
finalize that, bring them back to value, full value for the ones that don't respond. Yep. Okay, great. That's great work. Oh, thanks. Yeah, we're So, what do you do in your spare time? Actually, had a few hours of quiet time, I got so It's amazing how much you get
done. So much work. No more. I did have one other thing I wanted to mention. I actually saw this out in the hall. Uh I guess the state has approved this. It's the Lunberg battery energy storage facility that is
planned for 485 Lemonster Shirley Road. Um and I guess I asked Reena about this today. I guess the state is the one who approves this and the town really doesn't have any option with it.
It's going to be required. What's the what's the implication to the value of the property? Um, it is it is commercial. They're actually battery storage facilities. Mhm. For energy, the storage of energy. Uh, and there's a
whole presentation. Where is that? I mean, is it near the non Amazon 485? Yeah, it's near that big office building that was added by Keading or not too far from Keing. That big one is vacant. Is it in that large
vacant building? It might be in that big office building. Yeah. Yep. Cuz that mean that would mean it would be fit up and we could it would Yeah, we haven't had any. I'm pretty sure it's that that building that's
there. Yeah. Nope. Good. So, yeah. So, that's coming. I haven't heard anything else other than just seeing this brochure out in the hallway. So, but um I'm sure do is going to have to let us know. This is all
new to um us assessors and Ron is actually working in Everett. He has one of these similar. Yeah. So, he's been kind of giving us some information. It's right near Lun. It's right near Lunenberg Central Warehouse. Probably probably is at Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. That's good to know. Yeah. There's a wetland up behind that. I got it. Well, no. They built a building. They had they haven't fit it out yet because they hadn't really had any anybody uh occupying it, right? So, it says
Leafarge, North America. H cool. We can use more industry. We can like Wow. Until they spill something. Thank you. Any else? Do you have one more thing? Actually, I just noticed it.
I have to submit our um MDM1, which is our reimbursements for the exemptions by April 30th. I actually started on that tonight. And also our veteran
exemptions. So, uh, I'll have to have the deferral hopefully within the next week because we won't get reimbursed. Deferral. I'm not sure if we get reimbured. You said deferral. No, hang on. You said deferral. Did you mean deferral? Did you mean deferral? I have
to put it on the the form for the do for the count. And I don't think we get reimbursed for that anyways, but I still have to submit that by the end of the month. So, you have to submit the M1 for exemptions, the the MDM1, the veterans, and then there's the motor vehicle
exemptions also. So, I'm getting those numbers together, but I just wanted to make you aware of the deadline. I'm sorry, but you said deferral. Did you was that the wrong word? The does go on that that form. It goes on the uh MDM1 form. They want a um account of all of
the exemptions that we've granted. That's actually on this form here. and it's the total dollars that have been been abated on the exemptions and then it has the maximum state reimbursement. So right now with what I've submitted
um we have $128,951 of abatements and we would get reimbursed $103,237 roughly. Okay. But they asked for deferrals on they they asked that to be noted. Okay. So separate but it does
it. So you said abatements like are exemp you meant exemptions. Did I say abatements? I meant exemptions. I'm sorry. It's okay. Exemptions. So we have $128,951 of exemptions. Yes. For veterans and others. Y. And our deferral needs to go
on that too. It does. So we have the 22 A through F which is the veterans. We have the 22D which are the full surviving spouse. Uh, we have the 22E which are 100%. We have the blind. We have the 41 C's. Mhm. It asks for 41A
deferral to note that. Okay. So, that's pretty much all the exemptions that we've granted. Okay. So, you have to submit that by April 30th is the deadline. And as of right now, we don't have a deferral approved.
We don't. No. So, okay. Okay. But if that does go through by April 30th. Yeah. I wanted to try to get to it within the next week just cuz it has to be done in order. Trying to figure out Yeah. Okay. Just giving you a
heads up that hopefully we'll have a decision uh made on that just so that I can submit this and I don't have to do anything with it after. But um I am also getting together all the we have quite a few motor vehicle exemptions that we're
going to be reimbursed for with the Hero Act and Yep. I'm getting that together as well. Nice. Yeah. So So we'll have When will we have the summary? Not if we don't meet again till Mar May, we won't
have a summary before then. Yeah. And do we have to sign the MDM? I actually signed the first one. So I don't know if you have to Reena just signed that last year. So I think I can just sign it. Okay. Okay. On
that one. But the way that it runs Yeah. I have to do the first one, submit it, and then it'll fill out the next one. So it's done in order. I see. Nothing's done in parallel. Really? No. And I remember last year that's we had a lot of
problems with the form and do kind of took back the form and they took it off at gateway and then they made changes. So so far so good. I I got past the the first one. Now I'm on the second one. Congratulations. Go ahead, Jack. Do you have a question, Mr. Rabbit? I've
had piles of questions. No turns this way. That's okay. You can't see it. Uh no, it's just I wanted to Okay, go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Maybe maybe I should sit more up front. Is that what you should do? Okay. Uh, first of all, there is no financial transaction with
regard to the town on the 41A. None. Zero. Zero. No, no, no, no. She has to know if there is one. Yeah, she doesn't have to put any mounts down, right? She just has to know if there is one. Were we listening to that part? No, cuz she
was very clear that it's just noted. Yeah, but I don't know. Go ahead. And right now we have none. Correct. But with a little bit of luck, we'll have one. But interesting enough, when I did the
inquiries with regard to the other towns and who has deferrals and things, the response came back is we don't track it. So who doesn't track it? You are. Oh, really? Maybe because they don't care financially. Yeah. But but it's listed
for this. This is a requirement. The all the assessors have to have this in. And Becky keeps reminding us that the deadline is April 30th. So I'm not going to reminding me hurry up. I'm not going to wait till April 29th. I I want to try to get this done in the next week just
because just to avoid any delays because last year a lot of us had problem. Yeah. Okay. So thank you. Yep. That's it. Okay. Um
I have been remiss in that I did not review any of the minutes. Oh. So okay. Um we'll have to hold those off till the next meeting. I do have one. I have the executive if you I know. Is it all right to review? It is. Well, these are review
for release. Yes. Yes sir. So the ones Mr. ones we're holding for we got a 16th and 19th. What's the 16th? Uh April and March 19th and today's April 16th. We aren't holding up any minutes on that. Next to
me. I'm sorry. I apologize. You're right. Good catch. So the ones are listed right here. February 19th, March 12th, March 19th, April 2nd. Okay. And executive session of April 2nd.
I have on that. Suspect there's another executive session. Yeah, I just noticed that the second. Yeah, when I picked up I saw the April second. Um,
oh, these. So, you didn't get the latest one? Yeah, you got the latest one. She sent it to you. Yeah, but what does it say? Minutes of April. No, no. A second. It says it has this whole list. Well, yeah, I'm just pulling it out of the document that I got offline. That's all. Okay. I was just confused. That's That's
not That's not the right document. Okay. Should be I think I have Let's think of them. Those are ones where we took There was another one done. There's this whole discrepancy. You got You must have picked up the wrong letter that the old
one. Okay. They'll say 70% combined service and then 100%. If I come in on Monday, open meeting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. So, Oh, that's a holiday. No, we won't be here on Tuesday. No, nobody can hear any of the conversation. So, this
is an open meeting. So, let's try to make sure that we are speaking loud enough to be heard into the microphones. I'm sorry. I was just arranging when I'm going to come into the office Wednesday. That'd be that'd be great. That's not private information. So, sorry.
Yeah, Miss Cameron will be coming into the office next Wednesday to work on some stuff she needed to work on. Yeah. All right. This is the And I had a question about that. Um, I need to initial approval on some
exemptions. What's that mean? Those were the ones, remember? Oh, remember the the ones that went from 22. Sarah was not available for that meeting, so she needs to initial them. Yeah. And you were initially approved the 22s, but then when they became 22 E, we had to change
it to,000 from 400, right? Thank you. So, that's what I'll be. Do you have a copy of this one? Oh, is there another copy of this or only one cop? Just the one. Oh, do you want to look at it first? I'll let you look at it first. It looks familiar. Well, We haven't seen this before. Oh,
okay. Looks familiar. Looks familiar these days. Okay. Okay. You read this? Yes. Someone want to move that we accept this for release? I motion we go. Okay. I
second. Any further comment with the corrected date? Just the date. Yeah. No. I I Thank you. You're welcome. Do you want to um sign
it like you did last time and how you Oh, we did. But did did she get a hard copy and then or did you send it over to her electronically? We're going to send her a PDF of that. Oh, sign it. Yeah.
with the date on it. And we're all set. Jeez. Pen didn't work. Oh, is that I took a minute. I brought an extra one. See, I knew worked at home. Something about being here. I think
doesn't want you to write. This is why I never get red pens. This looks like I'm bleeding. Thank you. Um, we have any invoices, expense vouchers, or billing errors to fix? Nothing. Wow. Zooming right through this
thing. Amazing. I don't mean zoom. Uh, we're going to hold off on the conversation with the about the neighborhoods until Reena is able to be here for that. Okay. Um, because she's really kind of helping. I'll say helping. Yeah, she is. Um deed plan
issues. I kind of discussed a little bit of that with the that we had. Uh did is there anything that you wanted to add to the discussion that you've had? Just that we have sent out the letter to the attorneys uh or to the I should say not to the attorneys to the homeowner. Yep.
requesting that they contact the attorney. U I had one that wouldn't change the deed. He just sent a letter asking us to add uh a name on a trust for two other properties. So, we had just said just go at it. But really, he should have
referenced the other two properties on this deed. It only references one. So, I don't know how much cooperation we're going to get from the attorneys to correct the deeds. But, well, if they're wrong and people get overcharged, they'll come back and see us. Yeah.
Because the the possibility that occurs is if someone sends us a deed that's not readable, we read it however we can read it and it's wrong. there's a likelihood or a not just a not a likelihood, just a possibility that you may be charged inappropriately. So, if you are charged
inappropriately, you come back and help us with the deed. Yeah. And actually, it's more actually to protect the the homeowner as well because they're copying wrong. In some instances, they just copy the deed over.
Even if it's wrong, there should be a a sentence clarifying what the change was. So, but Okay. But we're doing our best with with that and I'm hoping with the help of Andrea that we can at least right resolve some of
these issues. Yeah. Right. Okay. Uh and I had suggested that maybe we should cover the deed plan issues uh during your status update. Um, I'm wondering if based upon what we just did now, maybe we should just move it
into the status. Yeah, I agree. Okay, take that off. Um, well, just for future reference, it Yeah, it doesn't need to necessarily be a separate line item. Okay. On the agenda. And we also covered most of the cyclical.
Yeah. Okay. So, that can come off as well. Well, do unless there's something that you didn't cover during your update. If that's the case, then we probably should move that one up there as well. I can mention that we will update the uh website with the new date
of May 12th that Josh from Vision will be starting and we will indicate the streets that he'll be on at that time. Yep. Ahead of time. And the postcards will hopefully be going out in the next week and a half for the next batch of streets that will be um added.
Okay. For the next inspection. Good. Um I don't know if we should put a hold on the conversation. One of our members just left. Um, well, let me ask a question on let's
let's forge ahead because want to hold off for till Jack comes back. Oh, here he is. We'll hold off as we will behold in a moment.
[Music] Welcome back. Uh, important. The 20 26 overlay is on here. What we'd like to
talk about, we have when I checked with Izzy the other day, we have 35,000 left. No, that's 25 of for 20 for 20. This is 20. This says 26. What about 26 you want to talk about? Sorry. Oh, no. Was this just
an error? I don't think so. No, it was the I'm sorry. We have 175,000 that was voted on for FY 2026. That was what we submitted. Yes. Yes. And it will change because it does change based upon what
actually happens with all the data that we submit. But that's the number that we're targeting. Mhm. Right. Last year it changed from 120 to 127 to 202. We don't know how. Yeah. It's just because of the machinations of
the of the way the numbers are and I thought we had voted for like 75,000. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, intriguing. We No 75. Yeah. No, we've had to 120. We did. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll go grab those. I
will accept my memory as well. Um but the FY2026 we sub submitted and our budgeted for 175,000 for 2026. Yeah. And so far this year we've spent 168
something like that. Yeah. We might have an ATB settlement and we might have uh an abatement or two. So we're going to be really close to that 175 number. Yeah, we do have a we do have other money in there from
previous we had we had plenty of money not plenty we had money in the overlay account. It used to be that the formerly the overlay was done on an annual basis. So you had an overlay for this fiscal year and overlay for this fiscal year and an overlay for this fiscal year and several years ago
three four. Yeah. Uh the do allowed us to accumulate them all. Yeah. So we have one overlay account. That overlay account does indeed have some several hundred,000 in it. I think it was 330. Yeah, I think we'll be so we can we can
accommodate something that's outside of the realm of the 175 that we've currently targeted. Um sure we'll have to go higher. And in fact, we've made several changes over the past couple of years that have impacted that.
Um, we in in May of 2024, we reduced the eligibility age from 70 to 65 and we increase the exemption amount to the max, which was $1,000. In November, we we adopted the COLA. Mhm. Um, which Oh,
you can sit here for for for 17 ENF and 41D. And what we are proposing at town meeting this year will actually get us whole again to a a point where we would have been had we adopted the cola when
they were first offered. So So we that means we will be spending more money, but it's not a heck of a lot of more money. Yeah. So uh the the estimate right now is something less less than $4600.
I do have um a couple of more abatements for two fires and then maybe that 8 to 58 possibly that looks hopefully promising, right? So, we'll we'll just have to keep this in mind when we vote for the overlay for the next year. Yeah. It wouldn't shock
me if we say, you know, it's another 10 $20,000 or something like 200. So yeah, we'll see cuz I remember now it was 125 because we were thinking about 150. Thank you.
So the 2026 overlay was just a confirmation of what we wound up in what wound up in the the number the number 175,000 that will be going to town meeting. Yep. Okay. Okay. Thank you. And again, we could probably take that one off for future reference. We don't
really need to talk about it again. No, I'm just trying to I think in many ways our agendas have expanded and expanded and expanded and we leave things on there that that we don't need to talk about much. So when it's the point at which we don't need to talk about them much. Yeah. We can just move it to the
status. We can do it to the stat. We can do them near the status. So um Okay. So, uh, what you missed was just the confirmation that what's in the in the town warrant in the budget is 175,000 proposal for the for the overlay
as we submitted. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. Uh, clause 41 and 17 assessments income level exor article. Has anybody seen the final warrant article? Cuz I never got an updated copy. I only saw what you sent to us.
I'm just wondering if it's gone to the printers, but I haven't seen a copy of it. So, uh, do you want to ask or do you want I can ask Jen to send us a copy of it? If you you would you mind asking? Okay. That way we have we have the
official wording. However it looks, however it looks. Um, and I think it's not that bad. Not that bad. Okay. Um, thanks for taking care of that, by the way. I'm busy. You're
welcome. I do appreciate it. Um, okay. The next item is the Oh. Um, go back to the neighborhood. Oh, well, this is probably a good time
because I think we've cleared up everything else, haven't we? Yeah. Oh, no. You know what? We haven't really because there's there is one more thing that I want to talk about and and that is the 41A the process not any specific application today. So okay. So we but we
could talk about the neighborhoods right now. Thank you for coming Reena. Oh you're quite welcome. We're u we're pleased to have you here. Thank you. Um yeah, I asked Linda if she would put me on the agenda because it's something
we've got to get going and um we've got to there's a lot of decisions to be made. You know, are we what are we calling these? Is it going to be lakefront? I think you need to do away with the average good and below average.
I I So are you going to hold a working session with a small group or how you going to go or you want to just ask us now? Would one idea I don't think we want to call it lakefront. I think we want to call it waterfront. Waterfront. Well, yeah. Because never not everybody on the
water is on the lake, right? Um and some waterfront properties are quite lovely not on a lake, right? There's a few, you know, not here, but there are riverfront properties in other communities. Yeah. In other communities, you know, like in
Conet, there are beautiful homes along the river, right? So, you're right. It should be waterfront. What I I would like to see is a waterfront with actually indexes applied. Yeah. And that it's clear to the homeowner what those
indexes are, right? M um and how those modify the property value. I don't think the good average below average did that for us. I would kind of like to expand that a little bit.
We need to have indexes but not just for the waterfront. Yeah, we need to have indexes for all the properties, right? And and there may be some neighborhood indexes or something some such. uh you may choose to do a different index for
one of your lakes and not for another lake or different indexes depending on the lake. I've been thinking a lot about that because you have basically three lakes and one small pond, right? And they all have homes on them, but they're not all treated the same, right? even
though the do says we have to keep them all in the same site index because of the sales. But um and I think this is probably where you get into you call them lakefront and then
you know you build something into the tables because um um you have one lake that's totally private. Can't put a canoe on it. Can't go down there and jump into it. Then you have two lakes, one being smaller than the other, that
have public boat launches. Anybody can put a boat in down there. They have public beaches and one has a campground. So, there's a lot to consider, you know, and and well, just And the pond and the pond and the pond doesn't really have
any public access at all. It does not. So, you know, there there should be probably factors and I don't know what those factors are. you I would like it would be great if you could suggest what the factors would be anyway. Sorry. No, that's so that's Oh, go ahead. The uh
just to add a little more to your description with regard to the private lake, you cannot put a canoe in. You can't do all those other things, right? But on the other hand, this association that you know that runs this and owns this, everything is paid for by that
association. the weed treatment, uh the maintenance, right, the safety, all those other things that the that the other lakes don't pay, but on the other hand, the town does pay. The town does pay to have it patrolled. There's a whole pile of other costs that go along
with with that. Uh the other members aren't required to pay dues, annual dues to do the maintenance. So So, so we should be not just painting it as that particular lake. No, no, no, no. That's not it at all. what her her point and I just want to be clear. I think the point
was we need to treat each of them separately by setting indexes for them. We will look at all the factors that you know a private lake doesn't necessarily mean that it's worth less or worth more. It just we'll have to take a look at the sales the sales and and what the what
the sales how the sales impact us and and set those indexes that way. and it so I it's it's it's great that you know you have a good deal of knowledge about the private lake. Um but I I'd like to bring up something else if I may. Um
we're talking about the waterfront properties. Um but I have looked um with other people at the other neighborhoods and it's clear they haven't been updated in 20some years. Um, I think in our minutes
we have a list of what we thought they might have been at some point and now they've been modified, but the default seems to put everybody in three. Absolutely. And it's bizarre. Um, it doesn't it like there's no I I I I don't
see any value equity amongst the threes. And I'm really I'm really surprised that that was never questioned by the do to this. Yeah. You know why you have this one big neighborhood and there's no difference. Yeah. Now we have a
directive to fix it. They never told us it was a problem before. Sorry. And there's no modification of the index. No. At all. Um there's a difference between being on Lminster Shirley Road and being on a quiet culde-sac. That's right.
three, right? You know, um so I would like to see um those other neighborhoods also looked at and I know it's it's overwhelming. Um but if we could look at what the breakdown is right now and come
up with, you know, we try to look at it backwards like what what were people thinking when they made this neighborhood four and five and three. Yeah. and maybe come up with some categories for what it should be. I I honestly don't think there was any um
delineation of those neighborhoods. They just put these streets and this one, these streets and this one. I mean, in my tables in Gruntton, I had I had 119 right in the center of town is a
traveled road. Everybody uses 119 from New Hampshire to get to 495. Yeah. So that road was a heavy traffic area and that's how we designated even though it was the center of town it was a heavy designated traffic area had a separate
code just from Main Street the Longley Road that went up through Dunstable you know um and these are the things that have never been looked at here it seems like they just kind of been all lump town roads are are a big issue y and yeah you need to be thinking about okay
we got Lemonster road that funnels a ton. Y of course uh you know even Little Arbor Street starting to pick up traffic. Well, we've got we've got Lancaster a we've got Lemonster Road. We've got Chase Road. Chase Chase Road.
We've got Massav. There are several high um traffic rows that probably need to be similarly addressed. Right. Uh yeah, I just wanted to be clear that we talked about we started talking about the the waterfront properties first, but we're revising all of the neighborhoods in the
community over the next couple of years because that was the directive that they because we have to not only is it the right thing to do, but we have to. So, so, so now we have some leverage to to put some money aside to get some of this
work done so we can figure out who belongs together, which which properties belong together and um and you know how we how what kind of similarities we're looking for and then what kind of factors we want to put on top of that. So, I'm sorry. I could never figure out really what one and two were supposed to
be when I was looking at it. And four and five seemed to be like where some neighborhoods had been developed like 20 years ago cuz they're all the same age. Oh, you're right. One, two, sorry. Two, four, and five. Two, four, and five were sort of like I don't know what that
means. I misspoke. I appreciate I just want to make sure. Yeah. No, one one a b. Sorry. Yeah, I know. Sorry. Uh but two was odd and it seemed to be the state roads maybe, right? And four and
five. Um were like it seemed to be not waterfront area but like adjacent like a like a step back from there like smaller roads. Yeah. With
kind of cottage type. Jack Street is in like a three. Yeah. Because it's a it's back one. Yeah. Yeah. And three is a big neighborhood. Yeah. Huge neighborhood. It's either a three or four. Something
like that. This is a three. Mine is also a three. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Mr. We have we done there are other towns that have created definitions, I would think. Okay. There are other towns that have created definitions with regard to one,
two, three, different kinds of pieces. Have we tried to benchmark those folks and find out what they're using for for descriptions and how they look at the pieces of property and the coding they give it? Have we tried to do anything?
Everybody has to do their own town based on the sales in that community. Oh, I I agree with the sales, but in terms of descriptions of the properties, you know, like the lakefronts, like you're saying, there's not they're not all the same. There must have been other towns that have done this. There must have been other towns that say, "Look, this
is a small side road. We're going to give that a a five and the other ones a three." And and there's probably sets of definitions they've used to even describe traffic volume. So, yeah, you're you're talking about site indexes, and I think Reena will apply those. Um, but the neighborhoods
themselves, the numbers come from just how you describe the neighborhood. Um, so those in particular, like we can't we can't use those from other communities. We have to actually go, oh, this is the hight traffic area. We're going to call
that a three. And then the code that's generated for how much three gets assessed at per thousand in graten in my data collection manual. I actually did have my neigh my street site indexes, you know, what was
heavily traffic, you know, what was a pass through road to another community. We we did have all that laid out in our data collection manual. I don't even know if they still have that over there. We get a copy. We have a data collection manual. When I um I don't know what's in
it. Well, I don't remember what's in it on that. Sorry. When we when we when people come in for abatements, the the biggest thing they talk about is the how much the land value. The land value of course, but the things they want us to
consider are usually um amount of traffic, uh the slope of their land, um if they're adjacent to commercial or industrial um and wetlands. Those those are the main
things, right? um that we hear about. So if we can put those into our site indexes. Yes. Because what we don't want to keep doing is putting these um these factors on these influence factor because
I think it might have been in 23 when I was here all by myself. Um Scott Santangelo, who is the bureau chief in Worcester, called me and he said, "You have about 90 properties on your legs with these with these factors on them.
If there's no explanation on these factors, I want them off. The DO does not like factors on properties." Well, unexplained factors. Be careful. Yeah. Unexplained factors. Unexplained factors. And And you have to have a good reason for Yeah. And and it looks like
our neighborhoods were really built with going, well, this is the factor we want to deal with. That's that's a neighborhood that that's the only explanation I have for why three is so large, you know. Um and and they all and you're right,
they all have to be addressed, right? But just with the people that have come in in the past year, well, I'm a one and my neighbor's a 1A. Why? We have the same waterfront. That has to go away first. Yes, it does. That was too
subjective and it it should have never been done that way. I I agree. Yeah. Every time I look at it, I'm just disgusted. Yeah. So, it sounds like But Sarah, where you've done all this work, I'd really like to work with you
on this because you did all that data. Yeah. And I know at one point you had sent me all that and I'm not even sure which computer I had back then, but that's really something. I'm happy to make whatever visualization will help.
Yeah. Um, absolutely. I'd love to work with you on this one. Uh, I have summer months where I can work intensively. Um, but the rest of the time my schedule doesn't match up with your office hours. I know. Mhm. So maybe if we can think of
if if you can think of um what site indexes we might want to be considering and you can think of some of the properties that you would like to apply them to. We can think about how to and the other thing I said to Linda today,
we really have to the weather's getting nice. We have to really start driving these roads and look at them all. You know, if you're up here and your water is down here, yeah, that could be an issue. If everybody on the street is the same way, it's going to be an easy issue. But if you got somebody here and
somebody up here and they have the same sight index or the same, you know, those issues have to be addressed. And it would be great to see some of the traffic at the at the busy times of day, right? Yeah. The lake traffic, too.
Reena, did MFS have any kind of definitions that they applied and they used? I don't Nate, there was nothing in there for that. They didn't they sent three people in and all three of them could have looked at the same property and give it a good same score. So So that's the
repeatability. Yes. Because what we noticed um if one person did this property and somebody else did this property, they're right next door to somebody called this one a one, somebody the other guy called this one a 1A. And the third guy might have called the
other one a 1B. They're all over the place, right? So there's no no consistency, no explanation. That was the way MFS did it and that was it. It was quick, down, and dirty. Well, recognize we were limited time, right?
Absolutely. Nobody else would do it. I don't want to give them a break, but I have to give them a little bit of a break in that they were able to get us through 440 abatement requests in 3 months. Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to hold a
grudge. I I looked at the uh And actually, I looked at the Yeah. Something was brought up to us today in the office. Um you know, um a piece of property that Denise just went out and did an inspection on. A whole house, two
there was a garage and a house on a piece of property. The garage was turned into a living unit like an in-law. The house was totally redone. When um Denise looked at the um visit history, it said
full measure and list by MFS. Nothing was looked at on that property. Otherwise, they would have noticed there's now two dwellings on one property. Yeah. All totally renovated. So, you know, and granted it was it was
in the middle of January. There were snowstorms and you know it was done quickly and we're paying for that now. Yeah. And there's a picture of what it what he saw but the sketch wasn't changed. I think actually the picture that the
new picture of the new structure I think was done this past January when they did um Envision sent out they did a full um look at the town. They rode every street and if the the pictures were old,
they took new pictures and they put them on the card but the picture didn't match match Yeah. the drawings. What is the now, right? You know, so they just drove by and they that's what their job was. They were to drive every street in town.
They weren't to get out and measure and list the houses, right? It was a driveby. Was not what they were being paid to do. Right. That's right. Yeah. So that's fair. And Reena, if I could not to MFS did a lot as as Brian has said with regard to the amount of time they
had, but we also knew that the stuff that was done before only and that's how I first met you. It was were not done. My Oh, there was there's been issues in this community going way back. Yeah. My my barn was a two-story house, right?
And my little sliver of Why' you turn it into a barn? Yeah. That was the day I went out. He did it the day before. I know. That's right. Right. Right. Right. And that tractor in the middle of the barn kind of gave stuff away. Was And then then that little lot across the street, you know,
that was a buildable lot, too. Right. That whole 10-ft strip, right? Yeah. No, I think those were actually all coded as unbuildable. Yeah. It could have been coding era and things like that. No, no, but she she's right. I think they were coded. were all coded as buildable, but they weren't coded as
waterfront. Yeah. Yeah. Because you couldn't do it, right? But still, they're they're right. Everybody along that street has got docks and gazeos and beautiful all these nice little um parcels link. Granted, they're really
small. You couldn't build on them, but they can still they got a nice dock. They tie the boats up and it's, you know, all the lakes have that. Yeah. So, and we're not going to just focus on the lakes, but Okay. So, what are we doing now around the neighborhood? What's the next step? Well, I have all um I have
maps at home that I brought home. I have all the maps I had put together for the three lakes way back when the abatement started coming in. So, I think I'm going to start now. Now, I want to start looking at each lake, the
waterfronts, do some printouts or um I've got the computer I can take home now and look them up. What is this coded? What is the one next door coded? Kind of get an idea. Yeah. Start to lay things out. Yeah. And then go visit them afterwards
because they definitely you have to see them in the summer. You have to see what kind of waterfront they have. You got to see what the water traffic is. Yeah. And we should start inspections soon, too. Which is why I can't do that. You need somebody who has the appraising
experience in the the site experience to to decide those things. Both Linda and Denise have that side of it covered. So, the appraisal side. Yep. I'm excited that we have this in our department now. Yeah.
Because when I looked at those neighborhoods, I it just looked like 20some years of bless you. Thank you. Just neglected of looking at the properties. When when I moved to Lunenburgg and I came on the
board, from the day I started here, it was my mission in life to get rid of RRG. I've always admitted that publicly. Well, you succeeded. And by the time I was in my fourth and fifth year, yeah,
I was advocating to not renew their contract because there was so much that was not done in this community and you didn't have somebody in the office like a Linda that was there on a day-to-day basis. Louise was
wonderful. She wasn't an assessor. She took no courses. Um she was a glorified office manager but she you know she kept the office running every day. But when I first started on the board ra used to
come the owner used to come to all our meetings. And I noticed the last two or three years he was sending somebody else. He wasn't showing up. And when the board would ask him well how are the cyclical inspections going? How many houses are done? Can you give us a
number for this year? Don't worry about it. That's all we got was don't worry about it. So, so we've moved on. We now have a we now have the situation where we have a principal assessor here in the office thankfully. Um, and we have a data
collector, we have a consultant, and we have an admin. So, we're Let's get it done. Let's right. Yeah. So, uh, when might you be able to come back and give us another update on the neighborhood progress?
In maybe in a couple of weeks. Oh, that's soon. Well, maybe a month. I I I didn't want to dissuade you from coming in a couple weeks, but but having said that, uh, I would think you'd have to spend some time now that I've got all my
family's income taxes done. Hey, my daughter, my granddaughter, nice kids. Um, I said to Linda, if you could get back to us in a month, that'd be great. Okay. All right. Because I I
really want to get started on this. So, uh, because I want to be able to show the progress also to the do at some point. They're going to come say, "So, what have you been doing?" And we're going to go, "Nothing." Or, "Yeah, we got a bunch of stuff going on, but I can't tell you about it." That's wrong answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so
what is this? And we we do mid mid April. So, sometime in mid May. Yeah. Fabulous. So, we want to put a date and we do um take our rep quite a bit. So, yeah. You know, she knows what's going
on. I do rep, we do talk to her quite a bit, right? Um, I believe we have a meeting scheduled currently tentatively for May 21st. So, why don't we set May 21st as our target for an update on the
neighborhoods and if I get reelected, I'll be here. If not, somebody else will be here. Nobody will be here. You won't have a quorum. Should we tell that? If I don't get re-elected, that means somebody else got re-elected. Took that position. Oh, that's true. So, you'll have a You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm sorry. I
apologize. Trust me, I won't I won't jump in. I won't jump in. Oh, yeah. Um, okay. Is that our next date? May what? No, May 21st. We wanted to mention something else that we learned from a class that we went to. Uh, Reer and I, was this outside of the
neighborhood stuff? No, it's part of it, which Oh, good. Let's feature leads right into the Go ahead. So, with Envision, there's a box that you can check. It says sales comparison. It will give us it will take all of the sales similar sales within like all the
neighborhoods or with within that street and we can analyze the sales. Well, how do you choose within that street? Is that what it does? Well, yeah. The box is checked when the deeds are entered and it's an option. We didn't even know it was there. So, we hopefully will be
able to get some sales analysis from our canvas system. Mhm. It's going to put like houses together. So, it will put like all your colonials together built about the same year with the same number of And then it also it um it it takes
off if um if one has like three bedrooms and the other one only has two, it itakes does it use effective date or does it use actual date? Um I think or do you get to choose? I think you can do a criteria. We actually just found out
about it. So, we're doing more research. Do some experimentation and give us an update next time we come back. This actually I had that I did have that in Grten, but the um the the version I had back then, we
could never get it working and I totally forgot about it because it was not something. So, when we went to this class, it was like, whoa. Oh yeah, that is a great feature. That is a huge Yeah. Yeah, that's exciting. That's like an Amazon compare feature, right? You know,
you look at different products and Yeah. Well, this one very much like that. Yeah. And then you can go and apply some AI on top of that and it'll narrow it down for you even better. And I have to based on your selection. I'm I'm guessing it already has rudimentary is
incredible. We we are really blessed. We call them any questions we have, we call them. We get a response right away. They assist us. Vision. They were even on the phone with Denise doing like a almost like a Zoom type thing to solve an issue that
she had today. I mean this customer. So on the camera side they're good. They're incredible. They are. Yeah. Cool. Could I ask a question to that Mr. Ch. With regard to our system, we know on
the circuit breaker there's a cut off with regard to how you can take the value. If they've got more than one acre, you've got to discount the other piece of it. Does that do that or can we do that? I know that you weren't looking forward to the headache where somebody was
trying to make an application from using the circuit breaker and he had three acres of land, but we can only use the house plus one. Oh, yeah. And we have to come up with evaluation around that. We have No, cuz we have to go by our zoning which is 80,000 square ft or 40,000 square feet
and that's our first landline. So that would be the closest to, right? But if they have five acres, how does that work? Well, they have your your um 80,000 square ft is your primary site, right? And then everything else is and it's in there now just the 80,000.
There's a value on that 80,000. She if you let her finish, I'm sorry. You said everything else is residual. So it's taxed at a different price. Yeah. The three acres would be residual land. So it's identical card evaluation the property card. It looks at the residual. Yeah.
And gives you a number. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. I hadn't seen that yet. It's on your landline. Yeah. You have usually have two landlines. Your primary site and then your residual. Okay. It is on the how to read your vision card. It is also on your how to read your vision
card. Is that updated? Maybe I should read one of those. That's Wednesday. I'm going to do so much on Wednesday during my vacation. I'm just being a I'm really beating you up. I know. You know what? They missed me last week when I had migraine. Two
two weeks. Two weeks. Sorry. I'm just going to mansplain for a while. All right. Are we moving on? Uh okay. Uh anything else we wanted to
talk about? That's it. We uh the 41A generally 41A process. I I sent a brief note that I thought we might be able to if anybody's interested in it
that we might be able to send out to anybody who applies to 40 or even comes in with a question on 41A. Um, did you get a cop? Yeah. Yeah, there you go. They all Yeah, I heard that. Um, yeah. And if somebody wants to make a change
to it, we can make change right now. Then I think we should submit this to town council and make sure that passes muster. It looked fine to me. So maybe town council will have something to say, but I because it it basically doesn't commit
us to anything other than we are behind this process. Yeah. Yep. And by the way, you have to go first. You have to go first. Yes. And that that letter was confirmed by Adam that said that they have to go. They have to sign
first. Yes. Yeah. We know that. Yeah. We just get approval from God. Huh? What did you get approval for? With regard to a letter. Yeah. I'm not You're talking about a separate This is a general process, right? And this I'm I'm
looking for the the board's feedback on this letter that would say we support 41A. I liked the letter. I I didn't even find a typo. We Linder and I talked about something today. There might be one thing you
might want to add to this. Okay. Okay. What is it? We're not talking about any specific applicant today. We're talking about this generic. They're looking at something in the deal. Yeah, we um we found something on the do website and it
did say that the application does have to be submitted by April 1st. Oh, it's just the application. No. Yeah, completed application. The completed that's not it. Yeah, the the application and not the other D
secondary do the first we have that on the do website. Um it said everything has to be submitted on time otherwise um it's a denial and a denial if they get a denial they can go to the appellet
tax. This is this is a general conversation. Okay. I'll keep it that way. Let's see if it's with this letter. Oh, here it is. I got it right here. Go to ATB. Mhm. Do you want me to read this? Um sure. Is there just one copy
here? Yeah, it's okay. Read it to us then. Okay. It says, "Read me a story. Assesses assesses have three months from the date they receive an application to grant or deny the exemption. The three-month action period can be extended by written consent of the
taxpayer. The application is deemed denied if the assessors do not act within the 3-month or extended action period. Applicants denied any exemption or deferral except for those for a financial hardship may appeal to the
state appellet tax board or the county commissioners if they live in a country where the country government has not been abolished. The appeal must be filed within 3 months of the date the exemption was denied or deemed denied if the assessors did not act.
So that says that the application has to be complete or it can't be approved. Correct. It has to be in by April 1st, right? Or it can't be approved. Right. But there is a place for them to go if
indeed they want to and that is they can file with the ATB once there's something if it's denied once once there's something filed with the ATB. If there were an applicant um that the board wanted to work with, we would then have three months to come
up with some kind of a settlement as long as they got their complete all their complete stuff. Okay. So, what Okay. So, so that should we put April 1st in here? We should somewhere? Yeah. Uh and I don't know how to add that. And
that your application must be completed by April 1st. April 1st. I I I'll add some I'll add something to that effect and then I'll send it to all the board. So go ahead. Okay. There's two parts to this. First of all is the application form 97. Would they have to have it into us and
we have have had to stamp that says yes, it's been received. Right. And then after that there's the uh tax deferral and recovery agreement which has multiple other documents that we would have to be reviewing. And we know so far
that when I've asked uh our do representative, if we have the 97-1.1 form in and we're missing uh a signature, is that okay? And she goes, "Yes, but just hurry up." That was
the response they got. Hurry up. So, we're not missing a We We're talking about the process for the Yeah. Just the 97 form 97. That's all we're talking about. That also has to be completed. That's the application for property tax
deferral clause 41. Form 97. 41A. Oh, okay. Um, okay. The So, the only feedback on this letter is that we will say that all qualifications are met by the due date
of April 1st. before approving any a tax. So, I'll just change that. Well, the information is there by that date. No, all qualifications are met is what Linda just read to us. Yeah. So, all the
supporting documentation that they have has to be there. Has to be there. Yep. You could. Well, we are we are precluded from approving an application if it comes in after incomplete if incomplete before that date or uh or it comes in
after that date at all. So there but there is there is a place for the those applicants to go. Yeah. In the re in the application itself, there is no point there is nothing there for for a
reminder man to sign, right? They then have to go back to the tax recovery and a referral agreement of 97.1. Yeah. So, uh basically if they have hold on I can I
can get one for you. Yeah. This is actually in the IGR. It does state on the assessment and deferral calendar April 1 or three calendar months from the mailing of the actual tax in the IGR
for the deferral applications to assessors due the application a complete application the supporting documentation the what you're I think discussing what you're trying to push back on is what's
complete. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's a a little footnote. Some associates may accept applications before actual tax bills are mailed. If not, or your application is not approved, you must apply by this deadline to claim the deferral. So, it's a footnote on the due
date of April 1st. That's right. Or sooner. Not or sooner, not later. Yeah, but the good news is if if they are denied there is yeah there's a there's a there's recourse ATV or the board takes no action. Yeah.
Well, the board would if it's if it were deemed denied because it was incomplete, then they could apply to then they can apply to ATV. Correct. But there isn't much to it. Yeah, it
does mention that in this appeal of action. It does talk a little more detail about that it's deemed denied. That's my thought. Yeah. Yeah. I'm grateful for that. Me, too. Yeah.
Completation appeal by the deadline. If not, the ATB cannot hear the appeal. So there's trust and also that if they don't it send it into the ATB and and follow their deadline that the ATB cannot hear their appeal.
So that's another deadline in front of me, Mr. chairman without divulging anything. That's the simplica simplicity of the application. I get it. But the application has to have all the appro all the appropriate documentation behind it. This is the application. That's all
you're telling them. The application has to have documentation behind it. You know that when we do an abatement, it's more than just that sheet. Oh, I agree. I agree. But the date what? So that is not a complete this must be complete by certain date. But one of the most
important things you guys have to remember a deferral the taxes are not paid. I got it. Yeah. Right. So, um the the most important part of this is if they have a
mortgage, the the bank has to be on board with this. Yep. Exactly. Because the town becomes the first lean holder and then the bank goes under that. So they have to have that approval in
writing with you know exactly on the deferral agreement uh uh the full uh tax deferral and recovery agreement. That's where the signatures lie. There's nothing in the application for anybody else to sign it except for those
particular people and they provide uh there's a minimal did you own the property any for that matter. Okay. Okay. What what you're saying is you want to modify this letter, but I don't know if we can modify this letter based upon what you've just come up with
without discussing uh specific applications. So, we're not going to talk about that. Now, we'll talk about it during executive session. Okay. No, but Linder and I would just suggesting, you know, maybe I you want April. Okay. April I've got April 1 to put on here.
Right. The question is really a debate around what's complete, right? And Right. I can I read another sentence to you on this um IGR? Under state law, only your board of assessors as the local tax administrator can decide whether you
qualify for a deferral. If you disagree with its decision, you may appeal to the state appellet tax board as we discussed, but it does say that do cannot determine the eligibility or give legal advice. That's the board of assessors makes the final decision.
Yeah, we do make that decision that. So, and I believe Linda, it's because essentially there's no state monies involved in this. This is all within the town. And uh and the other thing is when you take something off the tax
roles, you know, um the rest of the town has to make up that. That's not taken off the tax roles, though. It's deferred. It's deferred, but you know, it's it's not taken off the tax rules. No, it's not taken off the but they're not paying the taxes. They're not. They're they're going into an account.
We we have an accounts we have a accounts receivable for them, right? Whomever does it um for their deferred taxes and at at some point we'll collect those taxes. But but and basically you're not putting dollars into that
account. You're putting a tax number in. The taxes were $4,000. You're putting that number in. You're not actually putting money into that account. Yeah. No. I And when you know the when the land owner comes out of it or passes on you know
all that the town is the first one to be paid when the property is sold. Yep. So this will submit a D4 uh to the assessor. Okay. So once we've completed the uh deferral agreement, we sign a note. If a bank or anyone else has a financial
interest, the owner must obtain a witness approval uh see schedule A on the 971 the D4 document the upon completion of the agreement the citizen will submit the D4 uh to the assessors. So they bring it back to us. Yep. So if they go to the
bank uh and they sign it, they bring it back to us and then the assessors will then complete the statement of entry into the tax deferral form 973 and file it with the registry of deeds. Yep. That all happens when we assess it. Yep. Yeah. Assessors must complete a property
tax deferral certificate to the taxpayer and notify the collector. Well, you you're trying to make a point here. I don't know what it is. No, I'm just saying that even after that's done, we have to then notify There are many steps that we after the application, the completed application. Exactly. Right.
Exactly right. We have to get after the completed application is approved. Yeah. Yeah. Completed. Well, I I think what you're what you're reading for us is just some of those steps, but I it is steps. I'm not sure what how that's it's
relates to what we're talking in terms of not losing sight of the money in managing it. We have to then come back and notify the tax collector and and the town. And then they every year if you make a modification, you go through this process all over again. Has to be kept
in a file. has to be given a specific name and uh yeah and then when you're ready to go there's another form. So you're explaining a lot of stuff that we know but I'm not trying to figure I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to tell us that's different or new cuz
we know what has to happen. We know what that it goes through that there'll be an agreement and the tax collector has to keep the stuff um um keep a record of this stuff and that the accountant will have to re keep uh you know an accounts receivable essentially for and then at
some point we will get paid back when when the property changes hands. We got all that. So I don't know what you were what you're trying to add to that. I'm just trying to say that there's something that goes beyond in basically goes beyond what what you're trying to say is that's that's got nothing to do
with the application. Lose the money. That's true. And we there's no debate there. Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah, we can we can vehemently agree. I like that. I like that. Okay. I like that.
I think the issue is that it's now April what 16th and we have no well we're not talking about a specific application right now right please that's what I'm trying to be clear we need to keep these conversations separate right so genally
this conversation is about putting together some kind of a form that we could basically give to people as they come in and go I'm interested in a 41A well here take this take this to your bank bank and and make sure that they were ready to sign. Yeah. Because any
work outside of that, if they would if the bank doesn't approve it, the rest of it is a bunch of wasted work. Right. Right. But I I do know cuz we had probably maybe about eight people in Grten. Um I don't think they have
anybody left because those were people that actually owned their homes. There were no mortgages. Um, some of them didn't even have children. So, the the way out for them was to put it in deferral. Then when the they pass on, the town gets their money back from the
estate. Yeah. From the estate. But, um, we always we wouldn't act on it until it was by April 1st a complete application. So, everything we needed. Yep. Right. Right. So, the board didn't vote on it
until it was a totally complete application. Right. And that application could be accepted before April 1st. That's right. But can't be accepted after April 1st. So, Okay. Okay.
I'm going to hold on this for now. Um, although I don't see much that's going to change it, but Yeah. But if if there's if there's a if there's a reason that we shouldn't be using this letter when people come
into the office, then we we'll figure that out. Okay, that's all I had on general discussion for 41A. Anything else?
Uh is there we need to talk about next meetings? Yeah. Uh Mr. Chairman, if I could just give you an update in terms of where we are on what 41A Oh, on the program. Yes. Not on not on any applicant. Okay. No, no, no
applicant. Let's save for a little later. Thank you. Okay. So, I sent a few folks I know Sarah deeply. I honestly I thought about when I said that last night and last night the How many pages is it? 32 32 3 I have to work all day.
Yeah. And I'm I'm saying I know there's nothing but you take a look at it. Give us some feedback. Uh what we're trying to do is as you know bring our uh outreach officer into the frey the
council on aging council okay and as well as ourselves and have some sort of a a way of creating an a constant awareness out there. That's our that's our big problem people just are out. So anyway we building a package that'll do
a couple of different things. It'll also provide information to the board of assessors in terms of how the program works in more of a detail. The uh which pro the whole well the 41A as well as the Well, we know how we know how that
works. What? Yeah, you can go to the IGR, but it doesn't Well, okay. I you know, I'll go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. No, no. I tell you what, I'll just leave it with you, Neil. Also, I've created a um a way of managing all the activities to
find out where they are and what and for that matter what is required when we sit down with these folks. We'll try and do that before they head on in the new job. You don't have yet in and the council when you go to the council of aging, how you want to say, how okay, can you have
all this stuff ready and available for them? when they walk in they there's no chasing uh and there's examples and where you can get information. So like I am going to review it um and and and look through it. I'm just not sure as a
as a board exactly what you want us to be acting on. I want you to just read it and give me feedback. Okay. And uh Okay. At the same time, there's a process flow that involves a number of other departments aside from this group and
the others. I'm attempting to create an awareness of these are the things you do and perhaps you might write a process flow or something around what happens when and I'm interested in seeing how it's being reported and monitored because you've
got changing you it's going to change every year. The tax rates are going to change everywhere. Every year the interest rates will stay the same. But what do you have accumulated? Uh some years they may not do it, some days they do. So how are you going to manage that whole portfolio? And I'm kind of interested to see how what
they're going to do. Maybe they're doing it already. I don't know. I just don't know. There's no We don't have how a treasurer, a tax collector. Well, they don't have anybody doing that. We don't we don't have any. So something other similar. And in my discussions with So
maybe we can ask Rotten what they used to do. Yeah. Yeah. Or to manage it. We could and uh I know when I still basically there's a revolving account. You brought that back that they're going to try and use. So is it going to be using the right terms? That's all. Yeah.
You're just trying to make sure it's thought about start to finish. I gota Yeah. Okay. So I can look through that. I just I couldn't get through 30 slides. I can't understand that. Something about I I'm in admiration of you, Sarah.
Honestly, please stop. Let's I'm I'm admiration of any person that can work full-time, take care of a family, a house. Well, that's why advisory board and and something like this. I'm Yeah, I think you're
wonderful. So, good job. Is there anything else? No. Okay. I'll I'll look through that before next meeting. So, we started to talk about next meeting. I have May 7th on this. We have May 7th.
I will I will not be in town. So, it'll be just the two of you. I'll do the 14th. That is before the election. So that be before you resign, before your resignation is effective because if we're going to go through 41A, Steph, I
think we should all be here. I would like to. Yeah. So is there any reason we could not have a meeting on May 14th? I think that's okay. Oh, wait a minute. Is that the you're at the se 17th right now? Right. I don't know if I come back Tuesday or Wednesday.
Oh, no. I'm traveling on the 13th. So, of course, I mean, I could do Thursday, but I don't want to. Let me just uh And I don't have it here. It could also meet on the I don't know when
you're traveling, but could meet on the Tuesday. On the 6th or Monday the 5th. Brian can't do Tuesday. H six. You might I
believe that I'm busy. You're always busy on Tuesday. I am. Do you want to do a Monday? I get the occasional Tuesday off, but I don't know. Um want to say tentative.
What would the date be? Well, Monday is the 5th, Tuesday is the 6th, and then Wednesday the 14th. Uh, I think I'm available May 5th, Mr. Rabbit. Let me check. I'm sorry. Right.
I just thought I was done. Is that That's a Monday. Mhm. I would like to be able to think I'm going to be eating there. Uh, I have this thing called a hernia operation on the sixth, but I think I
can beat Well, that's okay. Um, just don't go late. The fifth. I Let's the 14th. Let's tentatively set it up for the fifth. Okay. If we can't do the fifth, let's the backup would be
back up to the 14th and that'll give us another opportunity to meet with Mr. Rabbit still in attendance. Yeah. And then after that it'll be whoever gets elected with you.
So if anyone would like to be written in, let me know and I will do it. You really need to cuz we need three for what? We have three places on the board and only one person. Well, there's going to be two. You could get away with two.
Yeah, I have to pass the exams, too, right? Well, not day one. Not day one, right? Did you take your exams? I'm all done. Yeah. Long time ago, me too. Um,
so tentative May 5th. Okay. Okay. Okay. And with a backup of the 14th. Yep. If the fifth doesn't work and then and then we'll start work for the 21st. Do we still have a meeting on the 21st?
Uh we can decide at that time. Yeah. Okay. What time did you want to start? Wasn't that No, no, no, no. We could they were asking about May 21st. Will we still still need a meeting if we meet on
the 14th? And the question is we can the issue. My point was we can decide at that time. Okay. Sorry. Can start before 6:30 on we're not going to start before 6:30 virtually ever. I said virtually because there might be
a time but can't imagine. All right. Is that everything? That's everything. I did did I send you guys a copy of the script for the presentation at town meeting that I is happening May 3rd. I
saw a chart with the colas. Oh, that that was the chart. Okay. Maybe uh this was there was supposed to be there was supposed to be a video. Oh, that's recording that was supposed to
occur Monday and I drew up a little bit of a script to go along with our two warrant articles. I do remember this now. Yes. So, we you did get a copy. You didn't get a copy. I don't remember getting you. Let me let me let me send
the script over and let you guys But I don't know that it got cancelled. But having said that, I can use the script on May 3rd. Yeah. Right now if you'd like. So you can do you want me to read it out loud? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
When the new board of assessors was fully impanled in September of 2023, one of the things we discovered was Lunberg's exemptions had not been formally revised in quite some time. We agreed on a strategy to modify them in bite-sized, easily understood chunks. This way, we would not chance
overwhelming town meeting with potentially confusing and complex articles. the sequence. On in May 18th of 2024 on article 21, we voted to improve the eligibility and exemption amounts for 41c. We reduced eligibility age from 70
to 65, increase the exemption amount from 750 to uh excuse me, increase the exemption amount from 750 to 1,000, which is the state max. On November 12th, 2024, recently uh article 6, we uh adopted the
automatic cola clauses for for clauses 17 and 41. They be they were 17 E and F and 41D. 17E was assets that were uh single uh $40,000. 17F was the amount
for exemption was $185. The 41D income was single 24,000 or married 30,000 and the uh 41D assets
were 40,000 which were then made 55,000. We did choose to adopt the COLA, which means we reset our our assets, income, and exemption amounts, as I just mentioned, to what
they were when this legislation was written. The intention was to not take the chance that they might be rejected by the state. On today, May 3rd, on article 30, we're we're voting to adopt new starting points for the
assets clause 17E, the exemptions clause 17F. 17 ES assets would increase from what was accepted in November from 40,000 to 68
244 and the exemption amount was to increase from 185 to $343. That was what the last uh accepted amount was and included the three and 3.4% 4% from this
year. Article 31 is to adopt new starting points for income and assets on clause 41D. The 41D income for single was 24,000 is now 32571. Again, accepting the COLA amount
that was approved for this year. 41D went from 30,000 to [Music] 40,946 and the assets the single would go from 40,000 to 54 492 and the married would go from 55,000 to
75,172. We are now trying to have these limits better reflect the qualifying amounts as though the town had adopted them originally when they were offered by the state. We have estimated the impact of the overlay the funding source for exemptions to be around
$4,600. This can be easily absorbed within the current overlay request. So this is not the so that's it's too long. Sorry, you're going to lose. Well, it's I I need to separate them into two. Well, are you going to have a chart? I
was going to put the chart up that we have. And you could just you'll have the visual to go with it. So that might be enough. That might help. And then um and we'll have whatever the wording is for the for the U. After the third or fourth number, my brain starts out a chart.
See, we did that. Well, they're all going to be on the chart. So we can point to what we did is like that's really concise. Yeah. It's just reading the numbers for the chart. I lost. I don't like it. Yeah. Thank you. Sure. When we did the colas,
what the numbers were? No. Well, what we did is I'm sorry. What do you mean? When we did the colas back in November, yeah, we went back to the base. Yeah, we had to go back to the base because it was not clear what had been had been accept.
What had been happening? Well, that's true. Yeah. Um, so we took what had been happening, we added in the cola for this year. These are the new starting points which will then and we didn't actually lower. We did
from what was previously just to the just this year to the state level this year. Now we're going to try to bring it back up. Yeah. So we never accepted cola. So we were applying numbers that we should not have been applying and we
did that for a decade and a half at least. As far as I can tell, these these legislations were passed in 2002 for cola. So, I think it's been quite some time. I tried to get a
confirmation from the do on exactly what the date was, but they didn't know either. Yeah, I remember that. Weren't we using the chart on the wall? We So, I took the last chart that was on the wall and multiplied that added in the cola. That's what we did in the chart. I know
we're using the royal wei, but at this we the assessor's office, we we discovered that there had been no update to the exemptions process. It was for quite some time. It was not our oopsie. It was not an oopsie. In fact, if if if
anybody wanted to call this an oopsie, this is really a strategy to get to get our exemptions into a more realistic position for today. and have them formally adopted as
they're supposed to be, right? But we're only as good as what was on that wall. No, we're as good as that. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're hoping to get I'm I'm going to punch this up a little bit. And you're right. The chart will go up. Yeah, that'll help. That'll tell That's
a thousand words right there. Yeah. Right. You can point This was our original. I don't even have to quote the numbers if that if I'm just pointing to Right. Right. So that that will be very valuable. I think the chart gez charts
are great like big font. I'm not going to read the numbers during the presentation. All right. So, um, can I make a motion to adjourn to executive session, not to return to Well, no, not yet. First, we have to find out if
there's any comment from the public. Sorry, Linda McQuade up there's got something to say. There's no one on Zoom. There's no one on Zoom. Uh, and I'll open it up for any closing comments from the board. If there's anyone who'd like to be
written in as an assessor or let us know. Yes. Sorry. That's it for my comments. We are a three- member board as of the next election. We will
be a two member board unless anyone wants to get themselves written in. It's a very fun board. Could you say how much fun we're having? Yeah. I do know that there are some people that watch this as a hobby. Maybe you listen to you'd like to join
us. Uh if there are well Oh, if there are no further comments, I will entertain a motion to adjourn to executive session. So moved. Seconded.
Well, I think we have to read this. I'll read it. We are adjourning to enter an executive session from our open meeting to enter executive session, not to return to open session after exiting executive
session. It is under purpose 7 to comply with or act under the authority of any general or special law or federal grant and aid requirements. And this executive session quote is applications for abatement or exemption under this chapter shall except in
proceedings before the county commissioners, the appellet tax board or court of the commonwealth be open only to the inspection of the assessors, the commissioner, the deputies, clerks and assistants of either the assessors or the commissioner and such other officials or designated private auditors
of the commonwealth. This is chapter 59 section 60 of MGL Massachusetts general law as the law being cited. Do I hear a second? Second. All in favor? I I. We are adjourned into
executive session.