Welcome everyone to tonight's meeting of the board of assessors. Today is December 3rd. Uh it is 6:37 8. Um we are here in the lower level of the Ritter Memorial, excuse me, the Ritter
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discussion to the extent permitted by open meeting law. I'll call us to order. What the first order of business will introduce ourselves. I'm Brian Leond. >> Brian Marle Chica. >> Sarah Cameron.
>> We have no one on right now. So there's no no public. Uh any opening comments from the board members? Mr. Michael, >> I'd just like to say thank you and welcome aboard. >> Thank you.
>> And I know it's a hassle trying to get everything all the tees crossed and the eyes dotted, but >> we're we can't wait. >> Yeah. Yes, I'm experiencing the tea and I >> crossing and dotting problem.
>> And uh I'm also kind of going, okay, how may I help you >> now? Now, what's next? Right. >> What's next? Right. That's good. Uh once all of your gateway stuff is up and running, then you'll have well, you have 10 modules to review over the next year.
Two of which you have to review before you can actually vote on anything. So those two are most crucial. >> Okay. >> You'll also have to do the open meeting and conflict of interest training. >> I already did the >> Ah, see you're already ahead of this curve. Thank you.
>> Already did that. So, it's just the u tomorrow if you if possible. >> Um uh I believe that Linda gave the name of someone >> Linda Brownley. >> Yeah. >> Who is most helpful at the state. So,
>> yeah, >> she may be able to give you some guidance. >> Linda Brownley. >> Someone told me that they were going that you were supposed to note too from the state. I don't know if you got >> should have an email today. >> I got an email. It gave me a password
for the account. I tried it, but it didn't know me. Uh, never mind the password. >> Yeah. Right. >> Um, give me a call tomorrow at the office because I took some notes of what she said and uh she had a different username for you.
So, I don't know why it was >> nobody gave me a but >> different username. You can't change your username. >> It it was >> you could change your password. You can't change your username. So, but if you call, >> if it's not B Marple, I don't know what it is.
>> Oh, okay. Yeah, it wasn't B Marble. So, either that or just call her in the morning. She's very helpful. She'll she'll be able to go in and walk you through it. >> Kathy did >> Oh, Kathy. Yeah, Kathy did her part. Kathy actually signed.
>> So, you're talking about Linda? >> Linda? Yeah. If you call Linda, as far as I know, you're all set with Gateway and you're all set up in the directory and all that. So Kathy did sign up this afternoon. >> Right.
>> Right. Okay. Well, sorry it wasn't. >> We We'll try and solve it tomorrow. >> Um I think we're right on to the statute report from the principal assessor, which I believe we have a copy of here. >> Yeah. So, we uh we had our tax
classification hearing last week. That went out well and um we just wait to be approved by the state. As you know, kind of been back and forth. So, I submitted resubmitted a second time today and hopefully they'll accept it and we'll be
ready to get started with the billing file. I actually worked with Randy Mercier yesterday, >> our consultant. >> Our consultant is Munis and he's wonderful. We we are able to upload the personal property file that was all set
but I had some technical difficulty at home with retrieving the Y2K file. Um and I didn't hear from him today. So he we were supposed to connect again today. So I sent him an email. >> Y2K file is not year 2000. >> Yeah. >> It's not something else.
>> Sounds like it. they call them. But what we're planning on doing is getting everything all set. Uh we did have an we still have a bridging issue. So when the data goes over from vision, which is our
camera system, and it bridges over to the financial system, Ununice, we had an issue with the personal property last year and we we have to use a different we can't use a Lunberg file. We have to use Fall River is what he has to for for
their bridge >> and our >> it's really the translation mechanism. It doesn't really matter that it's Fall River or Lunberg. It's the translation mechanism and they can't seem to fix it here in Lunberg. >> I I don't know why. >> Yeah. But we're still working on but we
have plan B which >> well and what happened last year was is plan B, right? >> Yeah. But we're doing it again this year because our exemptions doubled. So we're going to be once the file is all set the the main thing is the numbers have to match what we submit to the state has to
match which it does. So we're >> so a lot of manual >> a lot of manual entry with the exemptions. We haveund and something exemptions we'll be entering manually but at this point we we want to get the bills out and that's the goal is to get everything done and then after after
they go out we'll have to deal with the bridge and the whole exemption issue. Nothing can stand in the way of the bills going out on time. >> Yeah. >> So, do whatever we have to do in the office to make sure the bills go out on time. Yeah. >> So, we're on our way. Hopefully, we'll
get state approval this week. I hope we resent it tonight after I spoke with you and so hopefully they they approve it. And uh it looks like if you were you able to listen to the classification hearing?
No. So, the uh the select board approved a a residential factor of one which is a single tax rate. Um the estimated tax rate is going to be 1439 per thousand. Um and they uh
>> as opposed to this year which was >> uh 1436. So it's not that much of a change very >> inconsequential change. So, um, our average single family home value for fiscal 2026 was $517,296.
And based on, uh, that tax rate of 1439, it'll be $7,443.89. So, I want to just mention that. >> And how would that differ from last year's value? >> Oh, value 504. >> Yeah. So like
>> the value of the property in general is gone. >> Yeah. Two a small percent. >> If 13,000 on 500,000 we can idea what the percentage is. Not huge. >> Yeah. >> Two and a half. Three three or three and a half. I think we said 3.3 >> to um
>> I know that for memory property. >> I can pull up my presentation if you if you >> No, >> it's a not a huge increase. It was a three I think it was a 3.3% increase on from what you >> but >> 36. Yeah, that would be right.
>> Yeah. >> So, um we did also have nine of Butter's list requests. We received 35 motor vehicle excise tax abatements in the past month and we've already processed them on Ununice.
And uh Robin also processed commitment number six of 2025 which had a total of 442 bills, excise tax bills. Uh total excise tax of $44,864.32. >> Can you briefly explain what the commitment is?
>> Oh yes, we um process that in the financial system and we actually I have our idea and Once we do that, we actually have we
have to do a they call this a a commitment uh we have to give one to the accounting officer. This is so that they can collect the the excise tax. >> So we process it, we take the file, it's uploaded, we process it in our financial
system, and then once we're done with that, it produces the commitment numbers. We have this form. So we have two forms to be signed by the board tonight >> which which essentially creates the the excise tax bills. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> So the commitment is basically a list of the excise tax bills that need to be created essentially. >> And if we don't put that and get we get the file from Kelly and Ryan >> if we don't process that in unus when people come in and pay the bills they can't.
>> So if it's in our canvas system that's great but it needs to be in the mun as well. Yeah. So, >> so but how is property tax and what what is the difference between property tax and excise tax? >> Oh, this is for motor vehicles.
>> Motor vehicles. I was going to say >> it could be boats. >> Well, we Yeah, >> there's some other things that So, it's it's non nonpropy. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> essentially. But I said essentially four times today haven't stopped. >> So, we work on assessing motor vehicles
too. >> We we do. Yeah, we do a lot in assessing. We we handle motor vehicle excise taxes. We handle real estate, personal property. Uh we do exemptions. >> Personal property, which I think I mentioned last time, is really commercial property.
>> Yeah, it would have to be. >> So, you got >> you're not wandering through the house grabbing product. >> That's a million dollars. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh and and we would handle any abatements that are requested for for
any of those. Well, mostly for real estate could also be personal property, right? >> Yes. >> Um and then there are exemptions that we have to handle for at least a couple of those motor vehicle and and uh and and
real real property real estate. >> Okay. >> So, what kind of exemptions could somebody be getting? their power taxes. >> They sold it >> that Oh, >> they're supposed Okay,
I see. >> Which there's a lot of activity. So, >> the office is really quite busy trying to do more deal exemptions. >> I got it. >> And when our first bill of fiscal 2026 goes out in February, it's >> people will discover that, oh, how come
you have a record of my sale? Because you never told us that you sold it. So, they'll come in with their bill of sale and and some documentation, hopefully enough to say, "Well, yes, you you were you were due a refund. We'll call it refund." Um, but if it's less than $5,
we don't bother. >> We don't. No. >> No. >> Yeah. >> It's $5. >> Yeah. We have a lot of them coming in right now, but they if they've got a month left for an abatement, if it's
under five, we we can't reimburse, >> right? >> Exemption. >> So, I do have this commitment to be signed uh >> when we get to it. Yeah. and get to it.
And uh I started researching clause 18, which I will go over as well, some findings that I have later on. But right now, we're we're waiting on the state to um we're looking at our tax recap and
hopefully we can approve more I'm hoping this week. So, >> so there were four things we did this week. the levy O1. That's the overlay. >> Yeah. >> Uh the recap >> recap
>> and LA5. >> LA5 options. >> So some weeks will we be in gateway a lot signing virtually signing electronically signing these documents that that that Linda has prepared.
Um and and that's why we ask her for explanations so we know what we're signing. So, and other weeks we don't sign anything. They don't get into the gateway for sometimes weeks on on end. >> Yeah, >> she does. >> This is a busy time of year because we're we're we're trying to get
everything done once the classification hearing is done and we're trying to get everything submitted to the state and you know the accountant actually is involved, the finance director, so the assessor, we all kind of work together.
We have a representative at the Department of Revenue that that reviews all of our stuff. Actually, we're sort of two now, right? This new guy that Becky's not going to review them anymore or David's doing some uh Becky isn't doing the recap. There's somebody else
that actually reviews that. >> So, just to recap, he's doing >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. Anyway, so it has to go through a lot of hands before before it gets finally approved and turned into bills.
>> And that tax rate is estimated. So that might change by a couple pennies. So when we >> last year, I believe it changed by a penny. >> Yeah. >> So >> So it's estimated right now to be 1439 per thousand, but it might be 1438.
Who >> knows? We we won't know that until >> right >> we've been approved. >> So, as far as my goals, again, I'm waiting for approval on our fiscal 2026 tax rate from the Department of Revenue.
Uh we're trying to finalize the the billing and um we're getting a little bit down to the wire because we've got to have uh the billing file ready for the bill printer on December 14th. So hopefully
>> so everything's in process. >> Yeah. >> Once we've approved everything and we are done, we then have to send a copy over to the company that actually does the prints the bills. Uh and they do the mailing too, right? Oh, no. We actually look at it one more time before they're
done because in case they make that mistake. Um, and so everybody has, you know, I have a two week period I to do stuff in. I have three weeks, I have to one week. The do typically, you know, claims that they have 14 days to review stuff. They they do a pretty good job
reviewing them >> in less than a week. >> So they they've been very supportive um and helpful. So, so this is all stuff nobody knows until you sit in these jobs. >> Yeah, >> there's a lot.
>> I I get that. >> I mean, so where's the Department of Revenue and all this? >> Yeah, I'm all over it. All over. >> Yep. Yep. >> Okay. >> Good. >> Yeah. >> Anything else on here? You're going to be going through some of the stuff later
on. Yeah. During the agenda, >> go through that. >> Okay. Thank you. Any further questions for everyone? Uh, I did not have an opportunity to do any additional minutes because I had family in town, but >> I didn't have any time to review any anyway.
>> So, so I'll I'll do some more when the next I will have some time over the next three weeks. So, by the time we next meet 16th, 17th, um, I should have a couple more done. >> Okay. >> Do you have any executive sessions? I I didn't write up the
>> That's fine. So, we're all in the same place. >> We're all the same. >> By the way, we are far ahead of many of the boards in town, so I feel okay. That's good. >> You know, >> um yeah. Uh assessor website change and approval. Oh, we had >> Did you have a chance to
know it with the holiday, but I don't. >> So, I mentioned last time that we had we had um worked with the IT people here in in in the office and Robin I think was actually helping to redesign the website
because the website's been a little hard to navigate. Um, so actually we could probably set him up also so he could take a look at it. Uh, so we know what it's going to look like because Carol will have Carol will have to tell you how to get there
and then you have to set yourself up a >> an account and there's a whole bunch of steps to get in there. But you can go see what the website proposal is. I think that's worth maybe worth doing. >> I I will get into it by next week. I actually had the flu over the entire
>> so much for the flu shot. Yeah. Well, >> the flu shot worked. I got it. >> Flu shot. >> Well, usually I'm in good shape, but not this time. >> As a teacher, she's exposed to every Jordan there is.
>> I took it with my wife. >> My wife's there, too. Okay, there you go. You can tell. >> So, >> okay. So, >> I'm a little bit behind. >> No problem. >> That's why I was sending text. I said, "Well, >> no, I'm glad you did. Yeah, >> we'll keep the website on for next
meeting, >> okay? >> I really want to have an opportunity to go through it. >> Uh provide some feedback, suggested changes or whatever. Get get let's get moving and get it done. It'd be nice to have it up for the first of the year. >> It would that would be great.
>> Um neighborhood review start date >> hopefully. Well, we we obviously had had an approved at town meeting. >> So, I'm hoping once we get the bills out, we can start looking at that and kind of coming up with some kind of a plan
um as to it would be good to start that. >> We need to start that as soon as possible now. >> Somewhere around the first of the year. Un fortunately and unfortunately the once the bills go out that's when we start getting >> feedback on a base on abatement
applications. So the office is often very busy. At the same time we have the excise tax commitment that goes that that will go out. So the bills will go out and then people will say how come I'm still getting a bill for this car that I sold and come in and try to get
>> their exemption. So the office becomes very busy in January. >> Yeah. The office is very busy all the time almost >> and chapter that ad deadline just ended on the 1st of December. I did have one
property that we got the deed that came in and it was a forestry property and it sold for 700,000 in October and it luckily had a lean on it but um there was no obviously no first right of
refusal supposedly staying in the same use. We have no application, no new lean, no affidavit. So today, uh, I actually contacted the lawyer of the day who told me to call the forester because I didn't know if you need a new forest
plan. Obviously, we need to have a name change. >> Sure. >> Because this there was three left three years left on the forestry plan. >> I'm also confused on how it sold with the lean on it. >> Exactly. That was our point. Um I >> shouldn't have sold with the lean on it.
>> No. Um, it shouldn't have sold without having gone through the town for the first refusal. >> The lean should >> lean should be the big thing. >> Stop the transfer. >> Well, I did find out that it was not it did not go through a bank. I think it
was uh financed by the seller. So, it wasn't a typical transaction because >> Yeah. >> But still pocket into another pocket with nobody else. >> Okay. But the deed has to be recorded. And if the deeds recorded then there should be the lean sitting right there
on it and he should say >> the registry should have rejected it. They didn't I don't know it and then I >> Well, >> I spoke with the buyer today because I I told him I said you you need you're going to need to pay for a lean lean
record a lean. >> Mhm. >> We need an application. >> Uh we need you to fill out the rights. Obviously, you know, that is everything. He said, "Well, my lawyer said I didn't need to do that. It would just continue on another three years." as I said, but we weren't notified and we shouldn't
have gotten a deed as a reference for this is some somebody should have contacted our office. >> If you want, we could have town council contact your lawyer or you can just get started on it now. >> Yeah, >> I don't know what else do you want to do. >> So, I spoke with Jim.
>> I wonder if we need to do both. >> Let's start with start with the feedback. See what they say. They come back and say, "I'm not going to do that." Then you >> But it it sounds like you already tried. >> I I did and we're going to send out a certified letter. The buyer's willing to to fill the paperwork. Uh the forestry
plan the the forester I guess what they have to do is they have to change the the first page of the uh forestry plan that the certificate needs to be changed. It's It's like three or four pages roughly total and it's going to be a $150 charge
>> because it didn't make sense to me that Okay. Well, the lawyer >> they thought it would just convey >> the lawyer had told this buyer that you don't really need to do anything that you can just >> when it expires then you deal with it. >> In the attorney's defense,
they haven't been asked to do that in the past much. >> That's true. So if if we're not going to follow up on it, then they aren't going to follow up on it because it's extra work. >> Yeah. >> So >> that's great. You followed up, that's great. We may have to continue to follow
up until we get the resolution that's required. >> Presumably the customer retaining the lawyer is paying for that service, though. >> Yeah. >> It's amazing. I don't know. It's in this day and age to think if you've got a lean on a property that no one catches it even in a private private I'll call
it private transaction but >> still it's not private >> but the good thing is that we caught it. I'm going to send all of that documentation by certified mail. >> Right. >> And that way we have proof of it.
We have evidence that there were a lot in the past that we didn't catch >> that just kind of skated through and and that's why you wouldn't expect to have to do that because never had to do that in Lunberg. >> You know, the things that are put into
chapter are put into chapter with a significant tax reduction for the town to have the first right of refusal. So it's important that if it's getting taken out that way. >> Yeah. >> Not that >> the town recoups its money. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Right. A portion
>> a portion. Yeah. >> What's that? Five years. >> Uh a 10 10 year for the forestry. But yeah, we can go back five years. >> We can go back five years. >> 5% interest >> and collect their back taxes. >> Yeah. So they have to pay rule back if if they
>> if they decide to build a house on that property. If they sell it, it doesn't stay in the same use and they don't follow all the requirements, >> right, >> to be in chapter, then we can take it out, bring it back to full value, charge them the roll back taxes, which is the
difference of what the chapter land value would be versus the >> chapter land value is really devalued. >> Yeah. So if they raise it to the value of a building lot, then it's a
significant amount of tax potential. >> They're talking about the property down here. Massive. >> I don't know which one it was. >> It was um 100 Hobbit Street was the property. 44 acres.
>> It's a lot. Yeah. So exemptions and abatements are private between us and the applicants. Leans are public knowledge. So we can talk about a lean in a public meeting. We can talk about a specific location
about for a lean in a public meeting. So there's a little bit of differentiation there about privacy. Um something this one of the things we've learned over the last couple years, one of many. So, >> so cool.
>> So, we we'll either be getting a new lean um or we'll be getting some back taxes. >> Yeah, >> I think the the buyer will work with us. >> I'm sure >> he called me back. So, >> if I were intending to keep it in the
same um chapter >> uh in the same use, then yeah, I'd certainly work with you >> for us. But it was good because we're we're doing writing up all this documentation. I would like to actually
do a chart similar to the exemptions with all the chapters and what's required because there's so much that's involved with chapter land. I mean even the forest forestry. >> Did you provide Brian with a copy of the exemptions chart? >> I do. >> So you know what she's talking about. So, so now she wants to do one and I
think this makes a lot of sense for all the chapters because there are several different chapters you can um you can put your property into and they have different requirements. So, you can list out what all the requirements are, where the leans exist and all that all that
stuff. So, it's it's good to have it on one page, I think. >> Yeah. Well, it makes it easy even for us, too, because it's just so much involved. like most of the day today was spent calling Jim Cwley who's the lawyer of the day >> DLS you can call every Tuesday and
Wednesday between 10 and 12 and get advice from a lawyer >> I won't say that Jim has a lot of experience but he's way older than I am >> he does >> so just saying okay
>> so I think that brings us back to the neighborhood review start date >> y Yeah, hopefully. >> Which >> is >> first of the year, you think? >> I'm hoping >> we we need to make sure that we have a resource on >> on board that resource. Have we
contacted a resource yet? >> I I have. I'm hoping hoping that uh she will come on board and help us with that. >> Cool. Um cool. Anything else about the Dave? What do we should talk about?
then it's critical. >> Great. >> See previous meetings. >> See dozens of previous meetings here. >> U BOA code of conduct policies. >> Did you want to talk about the computer for clause 18? >> I'm sorry. I just
>> clause 18. So she put together some information on clause 18. >> She Okay. >> Did Yeah. So, I'll make copies of it. So, I contacted Westford and Littleton just to find out their
income and asset limitations if there's anything that's established. It there's really nothing that is set in stone. Uh it's more at the discretion and it's kind of situation by situation. So, I wasn't really able to get any firm
numbers for >> looked at this uh nine months or a year ago. We found like two or three communities actually had numbers put together. >> Yeah, >> I can make those up if you want. I'll dig them up. >> Okay, >> I'll dig them up. >> Yeah,
>> cuz u they were they were really um low asset and income had to be very low before you be eligible for a clause 18
exemption. >> Yeah. what um Kathy Miller Littleton was mentioning to me, she said it's something that we take case by case because if you if you had something set, you'd have everybody applying for it. So it they really they don't have any right
now, but she said we did have one in the past. So >> most towns will tell you I haven't had one in a long time. >> Yeah. >> It's it's very rarely used. >> Yeah. So, but >> but it's important when it's applied,
it's applied in an unbiased, equitable manner. So, that's why we're researching what other people are doing so we can develop some of our own so it's applied consistently and fairly. So, we have um so Roman just found found this stuff here and I'm like, you know,
>> just some information on it and then on the application. >> So, are you going to make copies of this? >> I can make copies. >> Okay. >> Cuz I'd like to read through it. Okay. >> Um >> yeah, >> it's too much for me to read in the meeting and >> Yeah. >> Well, it certainly slows the meeting
down >> even though you're a fast reader. I still like to think about >> you know. >> Yeah, if we could just get copies of that. I will look up the I will look up the two communities that did have
criteria and send that over to I'll send that to the whole team. >> Is that something you can just scan and >> Yeah, we we can we'll send it. >> Perfect. >> It doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be dis, you know, displayed to us here at a meeting. You can just send that.
It's public information that anybody in the public can ask for it. So >> yeah, >> thank you. >> You said not neither of those committee had had much criteria in that. >> No. >> Okay. >> There's nothing. It's kind of situ.
>> Well, this the state asks you to have criteria, but they don't tell you what the criteria should be. and as people util use it uh they have not documented their criteria so I I'm not sure how >> hard and fast the state is on it I think
it's just to give us an opportunity for some discretion >> on on those extreme cases >> and Kathy said the one that they had was only rarely for a year they they just wanted >> you can't do it for multiple years >> no the the gentleman was you know out of
work And so they they granted it for like a year only. It's just if somebody like lose their job or just >> gives them an opportunity to figure things out. >> Yeah. >> Right.
>> Thank you. >> Now the one I jumped forward too. >> I don't know. This came from Littleton. Uh, I didn't know if this is something we wanted. I need a copy of it. You wanted to do this now or
cuz this was the only thing I was able to find on the website. >> Right. >> Yeah. Though there really wasn't anything. So, if it's necessary, it's not. So, we're talking about the fact that we have a policies book that we're trying
to finalize, I guess, or not finalized yet. We didn't have a code of conduct for us. Um, so I it's worthwhile doing. >> Um, and do you want us to read through
this now? This isn't that pressing. No, just something >> take it under adisement for the next meeting and figure out if you have any feedback on this >> and there may be some things that you think that's too stringent or that's redundant or we missed this completely
um so we can add stuff to it as well. So >> thanks for sending these down. I like the idea of having one. >> Yes. >> Yeah. And this is this actually is Littleton. Mhm. >> Uh so it's just like a sample. Okay. Uh speaking of the binder, we we did add
more chapter chapter land wasn't in that. So if we added more chapter land, uh we're adding uh >> Oh, I didn't know what's going on. >> I You're saying chapter land? >> Yeah, >> I heard chapter lane. >> Oh. Oh, and I was thinking of property
that's property that's chap for sale and it's a huge acreage. I got exactly the right site for the wrong information that we gave. >> So,
I'll leave that on the agenda for for next time. >> I'm not sure she's familiar with the term with the name Chapter Lane. Even those of us who have been around town forever would never have the name Chaplain, but Linda's been here for two a year. >> Almost two years. >> Oh,
>> donut too. >> Wow. You haven't been here very long. 30 some odd years. >> And the and the uh the I believe the dealership was closed by the time you got here. So, >> Oh, yeah. Long closed. >> And that was Chapter Lane. >> Chapter Lane.
>> That was Chapel Lane. Oh, >> it's it it was near on her way towards Mackey. >> They're over by Lancaster. >> Oh, okay. >> In Lancaster, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Right. Anyway. Yeah. So, easy to
understand how you did that. >> On your way to Smokehouse Roers. >> Smoke house. >> No. Is it good? >> Never heard of it. >> It's a coffee shop. >> Oh, is it? >> Um on your way to Fitchburg. >> Oh. Uh, >> Mackey's is on your right. You go a
little bit further down, go past a shot. It's the next little mall. >> Okay. >> They roast all their own coffee. >> Oh, what's the name of it again? >> Smoke. >> Smoke house. >> Oh, smoke stack. >> Smoke stack. >> Smoke stack roasters. >> Have to try it.
>> Not to advertise, but you know, we want to encourage people to be in business here in town. >> We do. >> What a thought. >> We do. which is an issue that was addressed at >> I was just pointing out that it's like on that same street as >> sh.
>> Okay. >> Right. >> That was actually brought up at the uh classification here. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> We need to encourage more business. >> We do. >> And one way to encourage that is by splitting up the tax rate and charging the businesses more. Nope. >> No.
>> Nope. So all of us involved in taxation think well gee we'll just take the money from the commercial all that big all that commercial and industrial stuff we have we don't have much so
we always I've heard that you know dozens of times from different people we'll just take it from there >> and then you find out well here's what the implications are and we're going to be driving businesses out of town. >> Yeah. Speaking of businesses, we just sent out
our forms of lists. We normally do it in January, but with the snow day yesterday. >> So, tell them what a form of list is. >> Forms of list is for for all personal property, uh business need to indicate like if if it's like a dealership,
everything that's in the office for example, um desks, chairs, computers, they would list all that. copers, printers, whatever, >> their equipment, not necessarily their goods, >> right? >> But their equipment to run their business,
>> so anybody that has a business here in town that has equipment in the in that business, we get to tax that. You get to tax their equipment. >> It's personal property. >> That's that that's what that personal property is. They, as I said, they call it personal property. It's got nothing to do with personal.
>> It's all about businesses. That's that's strange. Well, every every community in my town, I mean, every community in the state can does tax their their personal property from their their businesses. >> We have a $2,500 exemption, so
>> it's just a small business, right? Not going to bother, >> but if it's over 2500, they they are taxed. And we actually have quite a bit of personal property. >> Yeah. Well, there are homebased businesses that have enough uh equipment
that they they might qualify. But if it's you got less than $2,500 worth of product or material, then we don't really we're not going to tax you give the food anyway. >> So So
does that business have to be founded in Lunberg? based based based >> based lunar >> and manufacturers are are exempt from that as well. I'm I'm just thinking, you
know, remote teleworkers, people who have large amounts of equipment in their homes, but they're working for Amazon or they're working for, you know, some other very large corporation from some
other state, you know, other location. >> If they're running if they're a consultant, that's one thing. If they're if they're running a business out of there, that's something different. we have a list of those businesses here in town. So we send out this forms of list to get them to report back what they
have from for equipment. Um so it wouldn't necessarily apply to somebody who has a homebased business >> employees or consultants. >> A consultant might be considered an employee in that in that case. I don't maybe
>> okay I'm just confused cuz I was a consultant for a decade here >> right >> in Lunberg right and >> I never knew about this and the town didn't know about me >> and that's true of most cases it's really if you're running a business that
has you know you have a separate office someplace and people can come you have a retail business or some something that people can come to your business You could an attorney, >> even a landscaper, too. >> A landscaper. Oh, landscapers might have a lot of equipment because they
>> a salon, just businesses like that. >> Right. Right. But as far as business consultants, we we wouldn't be able to find them. So, >> like like you, we would not be able to beat the bushes and say, "Oh, there's another business." >> So,
um a lawnmowing or person who's >> got, you know, a $15,000 mowing set of equipment and works a day job, but also mows nights
and weekends and stuff. If we can't find him, we can't tax him, but >> he'd have to register the business with the town clerk also. >> Well, that right, that's really I think that's the cuto off. If it's a registered business with the town clerk, then it's a business. If it's not that,
as I said, we can't find them. >> It's And we don't want people reporting on their neighbors. >> That stuff, right? >> Yeah. >> That's something I never knew. >> So, as a consultant though, you had you
registered your your business with the with the tax with the >> But it wasn't my business. I was I was a member of a consulting firm. >> Oh, then you're an employee. >> You're an employee. Yeah, that none of that counts, you know, but whatever you do, >> the firm itself is getting taxed somewhere
>> and the if the firm is not based here in Lunberg, we wouldn't tax them. >> Okay. Based in NIC, but yeah, >> and they may have them on their list of businesses and they may send a form forms of list out >> having said that they probably don't
report everything that you have that all the other employees have either. >> Yes, they don't. >> Right. >> I had a lot of computing equipment. Yes. >> Yes. >> And I still do.
>> There you go. I just don't have laptops. >> Just other Yeah. Um Okay. So, how do we get on that? >> Oh, you sent forms of listing. >> Yeah, we had sent those out. So, uh
because we yesterday, >> uh typically we send them out in Janu March 1st. >> Okay. >> This one. So, we're we're gonna >> we're setting up a little early, but not bad. >> And and each of those businesses is supposed to report back to us in on March first, so we can figure out how
much equipment they owe. >> And then, um the income and expense forms, we'll be sending those out soon, too. So, we're we're we'll be getting ready. >> You'll in the courses that you're going to be taking shortly, you'll learn that there are several ways to value
property. Um three three ways to value property. Yeah. Sales, income, and cost, >> right? Um, so what you just mentioned was something that was around uh income. >> So
that's a second way to business. >> Cool. So, and and you said they'd be March 1st, so that's fine. Luckily, that that doesn't have us tripping over all the other stuff that we're doing in January. >> We figured we'd get a head start on it. Yeah.
Yeah, >> cuz it'll be picking up in the next couple weeks, >> right? >> Great. >> Great. Um, we ready to move on to the next topic, which apparently is postponed topics.
>> Uh, any more updates on the new mapping software? >> I know you've been busy as hell. >> Excuse my French. >> I've It's been It's been busy. Um, I did put in a phone call. I haven't been able to connect with them yet. Uh but uh they are open to scheduling a time if anybody
wants to see a demo. >> So we can do that. But >> well the first question as you know is the one that we really want to answer and that is can can they have can we update stuff from the field? If we can update stuff from the field then okay
just talking more. I think. >> Yeah, I bet we've been playing full tech. So >> rather than going out in the field and then coming back in and reinputting all that stuff craziness, you can put it once it's
done. It's fully integrated. >> Yeah. >> So, okay. When you get a chance, it's as you know, as soon as you can, but it it's not the top priority. >> Yeah. Well, that's why we we have it
under I'm sure he'll he'll call back. I don't know if he is on vacation or life at the holiday, but >> we did a policies binder update already. Kind of. >> Yep. We added more chapter land uh information to the binder this week and
so we didn't have the chapter land, but now we have that and then we we keep adding to our our procedures and policies. >> So, is there a time that we could put that all up online. >> It's a lot of information.
>> I know >> we don't want to lose it >> because >> well we have it on the one drive so we have instructions but this binder is all information and it's like this thick. So >> um >> it's just it's just bits and bites.
>> Yeah. I just don't know. Well, I mean, it's it would be a lot of work to to put it up online. >> And maybe >> I don't even know if >> just thinking out loud, everybody, maybe we should ask actually ask the town for some money to do it online
at some point. >> Just a thought. >> It's not I did not make a motion. Was just to keep something to keep in the back of your head. But if it's online, then you never lose it. >> Yeah.
>> And you can find it fairly radically. If it's in a binder in there, um maybe there's two binders, maybe there's three binders. Well, now what are we going to do? We got several binders. >> I mean, if somebody wants to see what all the policies are,
>> oh, here's the book. Good luck. Have fun. That's doesn't seem very efficient. And if they just want to know about one policy and it's not on and it is online, they can go look at that one policy. Oh, this is what this one is. >> I think we should change that. Great. Thanks. It's changed. It's done.
>> Most of it's the the IGRs. Um, which >> Yep. >> already on there. >> But the IGRs come through to us electronically already. >> Yeah. >> So, right in the book. >> Yeah. So, that's essentially what what was done. uh our procedures. I mean, I I
don't think there's a need to to have our individual like procedure. I I think on the chapter land, it's good because I the the charts and stuff, people want to see stuff like that, but how we put stuff in unice and all that. I don't really think we should
be >> I I actually would like to see that. It's a big an issue we have in town is um a total loss of functional knowledge anytime someone moves on. That could be you, that could be Robin, that could be
anybody in the office. >> And you know, like the neighborhoods, somebody had some idea of what those meant at one point, but they never wrote it down. >> We don't know what it was. >> So, I do I do want to see all of that. >> We have it in one drive. We have all
that where all all anyone can go. Well, our staff, we have the one drive. So, we we can go in and everything that we do, we've been saving the air, >> right? >> Uh it's all electronic. Like today, when I got off the phone with the Jim Cwley
and I got off the phone with the forester, I wrote up a procedure on forestry and this is what we do. >> Yep. >> In this in in this case. >> Perfect. So, that's the that's the kind >> that's online. That's >> No, no, it's it's >> No, but you run it up. It's now online.
>> It's now online. So, >> so that's all that's all I was asking. And maybe it's more instead of trying to flip the whole thing over, maybe it's just a transition over time. >> All new stuff. >> Yeah. >> Gets put in online and we have access to it online.
>> Um, you know, someday we'll get the old stuff or not. That's that's when we started that from day one >> is everything we do there's instructions on how to do it. So >> that's kind of what what we did. There wasn't any of that when I started. It
was >> I mean bridging with munice that would be helpful to have online >> what the actual bridge >> how do we go about the process? >> How does how does our camera system talk to our finance system? >> Yep. How does that work?
>> It should all be the procedures on how to how to make a the file in KMA. got that. >> I've got that done. >> Well, but we have a bricks that doesn't work. So, what do we do with that? >> Well, unfortunately, we've got technical people working on that. So, I I couldn't
explain that to you. The technology part of it. I know the process and what happens, but >> right >> as far as the issues on the bridge, the technical part, that's not really something I can >> Oh, no. I'm not saying you should do it anyway. I'm sorry if I made that.
>> Yeah. If if you got that impression, I think it needs to be done >> whether it's you or some technical person or a technical writer can can could you tell you what process is that would be helpful >> and that would be a value for long long
haul because you you're right you lose the you call it functional knowledge I typically call it institutional knowledge that just goes away the second somebody retires. >> Yeah. >> Or gets hit by a bus. Mhm. >> Well, when when they make I do know that when they go into Munas, every town has
their own bridge that's stored there. So >> stored in Munice >> in Munice. So when they go to go for the personal property, instead of selecting Lunenburgg, they have to select Fall River. So >> because >> so fall rivers bridge
>> is compatible with >> communicates between munis between >> well RC who's that >> between vision and munas. >> It's actually RC's file because personal property is not in vision. It's in RC
which is our contractor. >> I'm sorry. Did I say did I say personal property? >> Um >> I didn't think I did. Well, that's where the bridging issue is. It's with our property. >> Well, and so there's a bridging. There is a bridging between vision and munis.
There needs to be a bridge between RRC and Munis. That that doesn't work properly, right? >> But the RRC bridge for Fall River works. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> So, we're that's what we're trying to do. And then we're trying to resolve the whole issue. So, let's assume that none
of us are here next year and the bridge hasn't been fixed and we don't call Kevin or what's his name? Randy. >> Randy. Because we don't know Randy because whoever's sitting here doesn't know Randy and how do they get it to work? They don't know. >> So, it's documented. >> Hopefully, it's resolved by then. We've
been contacting. >> Yeah. That's what we said last year. That's exactly >> It was a wonderful thing. I would rather know what how we're managing it. Well, but that's exactly what we said last year. >> Yeah. >> Hopefully, it'll be fixed next year. >> It's not. >> I think it's more in Munice. The reason
why it's not fixed, which is what we're >> I concur. >> Yeah. >> But but Munis can do it with Fala. >> Yeah. >> They're a bigger town. Oh, did I say
that? >> They are. They are. Yeah. >> Um, okay. So, scratch what I said before about revamping all the old policies, but any new policy will be in there. And we probably ought to put some kind of a check mark on it that says this is
policy. It has a uh >> we have all of the um forget I think it's worded uh on the cover. Uh the policies bind. >> So, we have the IGRs in there. >> Uh >> that's the hard that's the hard the hard
copy of of what it is and then actually what you >> do with it. We have that. So we can >> add all that stuff that we have in the one drive. We can add those in as far as how to probably in the back section maybe how to process an abatement stuff like that
>> or just where you find it on the one drive. >> Yeah. Mhm. We actually >> if the policy book says go find it on the one drive here then you go find on the one drive there then it's always updated. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> it's always backed up. So if the bind is lost, you've we have
>> It's great to to make like a a word document with what it is and the link. So you click on the link and it opens up in the one drive. >> Yep. >> We have >> So now you don't need a giant binder. You just have parallel papers. We have it all under
assessor in the one drive and it's got titles, chapter land procedures under there and then it's got chapter land information and that's how we have it in in the one drive right now. But titles that's good.
>> Yeah, it's all really all in one one spot. You just have to go to the individual folder. >> So it's it's perfect way. >> That's how I deal with it. Google Drive. >> I like this because we're speaking his language right now.
Except for one thing. Uh, can you define IGR for >> Oh. >> Oh. Um, >> forgot to ask you. >> Yes. Um, actually shoot. Um,formational guideline, right? >> Awful.
>> Guideline. >> Do I have one with me? I don't have one with me. >> Informationational guidelines. Um, so the >> I think that's what it means. set it is but I'm trying to think what the R word is >> resource I think
>> Google suggests it's an insect growth regulator >> I couldn't remember what the R was if I go to do that I can I can I can look it up >> that's a reasonable question once you once you start looking at the
IGRs you just call them IGRs and it's like well that's silly >> let me just go to the mass I've not I get it, but I I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know. >> Well, they they publish them a bit. >> Guideline release. >> Okay. Not response.
>> Release. >> You have to write IGR assessing otherwise you hear about incense. >> You You'll be saying all these little acronyms when >> Let him get through the training. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Linda will tell
>> this is the fun part of of learning new technology, if you will. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Even though this isn't very technical, >> it's not very a lot of information, though. It's >> Yeah. There's a ton and a half of information. >> Let's talk about a a binder that's this thick full of stuff. >> Yeah.
>> Mhm. >> Yeah. Been there, written that, read that. >> Yep. Yep. Yeah, >> there's always something like we we tend to have stuff people walk into the office, they have a question and then >> we say okay
>> unique situation and we have to research that and >> so >> we think we have everything coming and then something >> the next person that shows up has something that doesn't fit any of those criteria >> and the best thing I will say about
uh the assessors the Massachusetts Assess Association is it's a network of assessors throughout the state and we meet we have continuing ed and it's a great resource. So anytime I have questions I reach out to my
assessor peers and >> so all the assessors have to maintain their credentials. >> Yeah. >> And they most of them belong to the Massachusetts whatever the rest of it is called >> assesses association. >> Um and they have conferences and training sessions. Um, I think that I
think they're very valuable because we wind up she comes back from one. Linda will come back from one and go, you know what I found out? >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Glad. >> So, well worth it. And and my big thing that I'm pushing is for the commercial property.
I want more training on that. So, Bill Mitchell is actually he's from the chief assessment. And when I spoke with him last month, I said he mentioned that you were going to have all these classes coming up. So >> remember, he has a lot more commercial property than we do. >> Yeah.
>> So, and yes, >> we know that 92% of ours is residential. So 92% of our attention should be on the residential. >> Yeah. >> Commercial is only a small piece of the other 8%. >> Yeah. >> Um but I don't want to lose sight of it either. So I want to make sure that we
are knowledgeable enough. Actually, it's actually 91 and 9% because industrial went up by 1% due to the complex on Mr. Shirley Road. >> It increased. >> That was last year. I thought it went back to 92 this year.
>> Um, no, it's 91. >> It's still 91. Okay. Well, whatever. >> I lied. >> Sorry. >> We We went up a percent industrial, right? >> That was the only change. >> But that didn't change the commercial watch. >> No. >> Right. still was still under 10% or
>> SIP >> CIP which is commercial industrial personal property >> another acronym >> you'll come to know >> commercial industrial >> personal property >> personal property
>> which is as we talked about yeah not personal property >> we always say CIP >> which isn't personal property right it's corporate property it's business >> business property yeah >> we could have homes too. Second home. >> Second homes is the other thing that's that fits in there. That's why they didn't call it something else. They call
it >> second home. >> If you have a second home, that's your that that is also uh taxed as though it were a personal property. So, >> interesting. >> So, >> it's not just treated as a home.
>> Well, it's it's uh >> it's not your primary residence. >> Not primary. So, >> well, then neither one of them are primary residences. Well, you you have to have a residence. >> You got to pick one. >> Yeah. >> I I have some >> I have some pick one for where the mail
is going. But >> well, you have to pick one for tax purposes, too, because your residence is treated differently than your second home. And you may have a second or third or fourth home. We actually I I know of some people here in the community that have a home and
three other buildings that are homes. So, how do you tax them? You couldn't tax them 25% each or some damn thing. So, basically, you have to treat those as personal property and then tax them on the personal property rate. And I
have some in-laws. You probably figure out how how they're but anyway, but um they live uh 180 No. Yeah. 184 days a year in Florida. So, they are Florida residents
>> and they are really an anal about making sure they get their 184 days in. >> They don't want to take a chance of somebody trying to tax them here in Massachusetts because Massachusetts is higher. >> Yeah, that's higher tax. >> So, interesting.
>> Well, that's for the income obviously, not not for their property their property taxes though. Their property tax whatever their property tax is. Mhm. >> So if if you were a homeowner and you had two homes, this one of those homes has to be your primary residence. The other one has to be your second home and
the second home is taxed differently. >> Okay. >> Again, that's one of the 10 modules. I'm not sure which one. >> So the house that I'm I'm going to buy in Belfast, M. >> Well, we won't care. We won't care because it's not Lunberg,
>> right? >> We are going to tax it. >> Okay. Belfast Maine may tax it differently >> or not taught depending >> or not but that's up to them >> and we don't have to become experts in Belfast me you might
>> but I'm planning on retiring there >> decides to stop working >> our next agenda item is our upcoming meeting and event schedule >> I think so >> yeah um >> you might have a conflict. >> I might have a conflict on the 17th. My
husband's going in for surgery next Wednesday, >> week before hip surgery. So hopefully he'll be up in >> but I can >> I'm going to keep it on there, but I keep you posted. >> We uh So we may have to be flexible on
that one. I We could do it the week later. >> Oh, 24th. >> 24. >> I won't be here. >> Well, okay. I should be okay. Maybe I'll see if I can get somebody to come or, you know, at least >> if he's not.
>> I could move it to the Monday, but that's all I got. >> Let's Let's leave it at the 17th until we hear that we have to change it. And I don't really want >> I'll know next Wednesday. >> I didn't really want the 24th. >> Just wanted to be clear. >> Um, and the Monday, well, that would be
the 22nd. >> That'd be the 15th. >> Well, that Monday. We might not know by then. >> Oh, I see. >> In time to post it >> for the 15th. >> That's true. >> Um, >> yeah, because I want a little
>> Thursday. Keep it there. >> I really can't do anything that next week. >> Okay. >> I think the Christmas week. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think the Christmas week is pretty much out. >> Yeah. >> For any meetings unless we have an emergency. Obviously, that's always a different thing.
>> I can't imagine the emergency, but it happens. >> Who knows? Um, so if we were not to meet on the 17th, we would potentially right now not meet until January 7th. >> Yeah, that's what I have on my calendar.
>> Okay. Unless something comes up. >> Yeah, >> let's leave the 17th and the and January 7th. >> Okay. >> Out there. And if we have to cancel the 17th, we will. >> Okay. >> It'd be great if we could meet because
Well, we get a pretty good idea of where we are on billing. >> Yeah. Well, yeah, we have to tax >> by then. We have to have >> Yeah, it'd be like it'd be nice to be able to confirm that we made it for the 14th. >> Well, we're doing our very best.
>> Actually, if we are not going to make the 14th, you could just send us a note to let us know that that's it occurred. >> And >> if we are going to make it, tell us, too. and and and if we aren't going to make it, tell us what Jen's plan is for making the bills happen.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, we are actively working on that uh every day. So, we've already I I don't anticipate that, but I don't want to say because it's one part of it is not my >> I I said I said Jen I I mean the town
manager. I don't mean anybody else. Yes, >> I have Randy. Uh I know he'll help us get that all set. So I I can at least tell you the personal propertyy's all set. We'll get ready to do those exemptions as soon as they the real
estate files uploaded. >> So what would our potential February schedules be? >> Um the 21st is >> Yeah. We've been doing the first and the third of Wednesday of the month. Is there any other day that >> I just I was just going to extend it out
February February 3rd? >> Yeah, I I can I can do that, but is there any other day that is Wednesday the only day? >> Does anyone know what we're doing? >> I'm trying to maintain as much continuity as possible so that our
town's folks aren't trying to find us. >> Yeah. So, that would be February 4th. >> February 4th. >> And then two weeks from that would be 18th. 18th and I will not be here >> on the 18th.
>> On the 18th I'll be in Arizona. >> You'll be I thought you'd be doing those tests for the 10 modules. >> So we might >> we might need to look into the 25th which is the following week. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Cuz that the week with the 18th in there that's a school vacation. It is. >> Oh it is. That's right. Okay. All right. >> Okay. Let's put them on the Let's not put the 18th on the count. Let's put the 25th. Let's just
>> automatically say that >> 4 and 25. 4 and 25. And if anything else comes up in the interim, we'll >> we can Yeah. >> I really want to stick to the Wednesday evening because that way there's continuity for council. >> Mhm.
>> Okay. I had a someone asked me about an excise tax exemption. I sent them some over to you. Did he send you the form yet or? >> No, we haven't received anything. >> Just want to hear my stats. >> You might have actually come into the office. We had some people come in
today. So, I know you mentioned >> I just said go to the office. Yep. >> Someone approached me on my town email and said, "Are you the one that I get my my motor vehicle
exemption from?" And no, no, but sort of cuz I'll review it later. >> Yeah. >> But >> so, you know, people don't understand sometimes the difference between the what the lead assessor does and what the board assessors do. >> Yeah.
>> I understand that. I never did. I can't just talk to you. >> You're too entrenched at this point. >> Yeah, >> but that's probably true. >> Did you want to sign these? Speaking of that, >> we have exercise tax uh >> unfortunately
where you haven't passed your first two tests. Correct. You can't sign >> attach to >> you can't sign. I have plenty. I know. I know. We don't even know if you have gateway. No, I'm pretty sure you have gateway. >> Oh, >> that's okay.
>> She did. Today is December 4th. Copies. >> I I would be simply acknowledging that you folks signed. So, right. >> I think that's the same thing. >> I'm sure that's not helpful. >> Yeah, just um we we've been doing two.
>> Does this does this need a >> Oh, that check. This didn't >> That's a commitment. >> Does Does it have to go to the um notary? >> No, that's a lean. >> Oh, this is lean. >> That's not That's a commitment.
>> That's the commitment. >> Yep. That's >> We have another sheet in here. >> Yep. That's um >> That wasn't in the other one. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. So, this is >> You need I need to sign this one too for that one. >> I'm sorry, Mr. Bro. >> That's okay. Yep. And then if you wouldn't mind signing
that extra signature page and it back you can work this over. You want to see what it looks like. >> Yeah, >> this goes with that. >> I will have a lean at the next meeting if they send everything back uh for that chapter. >> Oh yeah. And this this one goes with that. >> Okay.
>> So one's for the uh accounting officer and then the other is for >> blue >> tax collector. >> Tax collector. Yeah. Sorry. I think I knew the answer. >> I was only asking the question so bright.
>> I was asking the question because I was confused. >> Here you go. >> This is the same. That's That's >> the same thing. >> Same thing. >> It's just another copy. Oh, we do have uh we would like to get a a stamp. So,
so for the motor vehicle abatements, we just stamp them. >> Uh and we got we voted in one of our meetings. So, there's a lot of stuff that we can have a stamp meet up. >> There's a lot of stuff we have to sign. >> We should probably make it for each individual.
That's what we've done. >> Oh, you have. Okay. >> We already have. >> So, >> yeah. >> Okay. >> So, just your whatever your signature. >> I couldn't remember if we did it in a tree or not, which be, you know, sad. >> We used to have all we used to have all three and then >> on one stand >> and Jack left and then we said, "Oh,
shoot." >> So, this is >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Anything else that need to be signed? I think that is it. >> No, no bills. >> No, we we've been signing everything else. >> No checks, >> nothing. >> Yeah.
>> Nope. >> No. Okay. >> Um, >> so make a motion to >> No, we're not ready to adjourn. So on this on this agenda, it says that we
adjourn at 8:00. That means because because we posted this till 8:00, we have to remain in session till 8:00. So, I'd like to not do that again in the future. >> Okay. >> What time is it now?
>> Because somebody could try to join us at 5 minutes of 8 and we've gone away and we're not here anymore. Okay. >> So, just drop the end time off. >> No more. All right. >> For the future. >> Change that. >> Having said that, do we have anything to
talk about for the next 10 minutes? No, >> no, >> I have no comment. I'm going to get some water. So, uh, what I >> That doesn't include executive session. >> No, it doesn't. >> Yep. >> Okay.
>> Well, >> when when I saw that there was an end date, end time on there, I thought that Yeah. >> Well, I sent it up back to Robin and said, "You might want to take this or something." We'll take that up with Linda. And I was like, "Okay, you're right. I should take it off with Linda." I just didn't have time to call you and say, make that amendment because we
don't want somebody to try and dial in the thing. What are you guys hiding? >> Yeah. >> What do you mean you adjourned? >> Yeah. >> Well, we have more business. Uh >> we don't have that much for
exemption. So, >> so just if the if the board is happy with it, I would suggest that since this was scheduled to 8:00 in error, I'd like to make a motion that we go ahead and
adjourn anyway and just take our chances that someone from town doesn't try to get in touch with us in the next 5 minutes, 7 minutes. >> I'll second that motion. >> Is that is that acceptable? Yes. >> Okay. You can vote on this one.
>> Yes, I will. >> You can't vote on on any of the financial stuff. >> No. >> Yet. >> Yet. >> But you can vote you can vote on process, procedure, that kind of stuff. So, >> uh did you second that? >> Yes. >> You did >> second.
>> All right. All in favor? >> I will adjourn at 7:52 >> from the open meeting. >> From the open meeting. Oh, you want to read the whole thing? >> I can read. That'll take five minutes. That'll take some time. >> Motion to adjourn to enter an executive
session. Adjourn open meeting and enter executive session. Not to return to open session after exiting executive session. The motion to enter executive session under purpose 7 to comply with or act under the authority
of any general special law or fertile grandade requirements. And also executive session quote applications for abatement or exemption under this chapter shall except in proceedings before the county
commission >> commissioner the appellet tax board or a court of the commonwealth be open only to the assessors the commissioner the deputies clerks and assistance of either the assessors or the commissioner and such other officials are designated private
auditors of the commonwealth chapter 59 section 60 of MGL is the law being said. >> So you amended your your motion based on that. >> You second it based on that. And now we can vote to adjurnn. All in favor? I. I.
>> And we're going to go ahead and shut down.