Okay. Well, uh, welcome everybody to, uh, cemetery commission meeting of, uh, Wednesday, November 19th, 2025. Um, in accordance with the requirements of the open meeting law, please be advised that this meeting is being
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location. Members of the public are welcome to attend. Thank you. Let's all stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Well, thank you guys for coming. Good to see you again. Late night last night, but we're here. >> Um,
so re review and approve the minutes of uh October 30th, 2025. Have you had a chance to review the minutes? >> Not right now. Bill, did you have an extra one there? Is there an extra minutes?
>> Yeah. >> No, that's right. Dave, did you have an extra copy of the minutes? >> Oh, right there. >> Okay. Sorry. Copy. >> I think I just now that I thought of it and I had looked at um what the Zoom AI
put out, I took an action to write a letter to the uh select word on uh a request of an additional >> person >> person uh for the cemetery. So, um I would say if we do make a motion to
approve, it would be also to include that statement. >> Okay. >> Make a motion we approve the minutes of October 30th and include the letter going to the select board asking for
that additional person to work with the DPW at the cemetery. I'll second. All in favor? I I Okay, great. All right. Uh, thank you for approving
the minutes and on to the warrant article. So, the Warren article was presented last night at town meeting on a consent calendar with two other articles and asked. So, we have transferred the funds
from sale of lots to our capital article fund. I did um like we could look at that quickly just so we know where we're at and so the sale of lots um we were at 105971.
We transferred the 10K so we're at 95971. Right. So we took that article transferred 10,000 out. >> So that's that's the transfer here
10,000. And so now in our uh capital article fund we had the 4283 plus the 10k brings us to 14283.
Okay. plus our capital plan budget for the back lot. Um and then these are our perpetual care numbers that were presented last time.
So, um let me just uh if we look at our our plan um for perpetual care um the expendable here is from the
previous page to 23482. Our allocations are uh that's what >> the stone wall repair in South Cemetery the hedge plantings and the hedge trimming
>> all that's gone that's invoiced already. >> All that's been invoiced >> correct? Yes. >> 18,000's been invoiced already. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, we're at uh 48 uh 5774
funds left in perpetual care and then we have um >> 10,000. >> We've got the uh 14283 in the capital, but we have uh well, we we approved the Fish Street
Cemetery Wall for 7500. Yep. And then uh budgeting the remainder for sub cemetery would be about 6,500 and that would just leave us with some some change of 283
after that work is done. So our bulk of uh bonus money for anything that comes up would be out of perpetual care over the winter. and then um whatever is coming for interest.
>> Okay. So, you're saying that >> we just put in 10,000, >> but the balance really >> that's that's this one. >> But the balance really is going to be 28361 when they everything's paid. >> Yeah. We approved the Fish Street
project to move forward, >> right? And then we still have the proposal um to look at to scale it to what's left. And if I use 6,500 as a round number, um that leaves us with with a positive
balance. And then of course we're getting the interest, you know, as that occurs. Um so come >> there's not much going to happen this winter. >> No. So, we're in good shape as long as
um >> the Yeah. >> You still have 4857 to add to the 283. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, we're we're good until >> Yeah. over 5,000 >> June. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. Perpetual care, the the interest is transferable. You don't have to go to town meeting for that. So the next step was to get with the uh finance director and the town man manager to see how we can get these reporting
uh coming into us >> and and you know on like a quarterly basis would be nice. >> Donna was going to work on that. >> Yeah, Don is working on that and dialoguing with uh with Jennifer. >> Okay. >> Yep.
>> Okay. So, we just need to be cognizant that's that's that's what we have for budget right now. >> Good. And so, we can go forward. >> There's nothing else coming up that we're aware of that over the winter.
>> No. >> Nope. Nothing for winter. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Mike, which pot of money is the $7,800 for the fishy wallet in again? That's in our uh capital article that we
transferred. >> Okay. >> And that was done last night, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> I think I fell asleep before that. >> Okay. Next. >> Okay. Okay. So, that was Warren. Okay. Uh DPW
director and superintendent. you got on? You want me to start? I don't care. >> Yeah, I don't think I have anything for today, but >> Okay. >> But um >> lights. Lights. We haven't heard from the electrician.
>> Is there any anyone else we can contact? >> Yeah, >> I'm sure there are. Yeah, it's probably going to cost more. >> Well, we have to go out to bed. Well, it won't be that much, but >> I think the price was only like $600,
$700, something like that. >> Oh, you're talking about the ones that go on top of the pole. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is that what you guys still want to do or would you rather do >> as a temporary measure? Yes. >> Oh, you want to do the tempor temporary? All right. >> I'll call I'll call Mike tomorrow. >> I'll call Mike tomorrow. Okay.
>> Well, anything else we haven't really budgeted for? >> No. No. That's right. That's correct. So, this would be temporary until we can >> Absolutely. Okay. >> Well, um, do we still have the funds for that though?
>> What the 7 $600? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Is it on your spreadsheet? >> We have the perpetual. >> We have perpetual care. >> Perpetual or would it have to be on the capital? >> Well, purchasing services, right? We
can't be on the purchases and services. That's our accounts. We're >> Oh, that's their accounts. >> Okay. Oh, you can just put it on there. >> I think I think that would be capital, right? Or putting a new new items or would it be >> But it's only temporary because he was talking about something permanent down
on the ground. >> Yeah, that's But we're not going to do that. What? We just We're not doing that now. We're going to do the lights up on top for now and then we'll once I figure out all that. I mean, I have it all figured out, but you know, I did that five years ago. So, we have to kind of we got to we got to fix those numbers.
But but we got to talk about that. >> We Yeah, we could do it under perpetual. My thought on perpetual care is you're buying >> Well, it's the people that are paying the the fee of perpetual care and in the
um sale of lots fund, >> right? Um the perpetual is for the perpetual care of their spot plus to me things that existed there that you're maintaining replacing
upkeep and then the sale of lots is for capital improvements that oh but I think I think we can do this under perpetual it's a small >> um amount and you can say yes the flag
pole is there and it's just a minor yeah improvement So, we're putting these >> up on top of the flag poles. Yep. >> Shining down, >> right? They shine. They shine down, right? >> And it's solar. >> It's solar, right? >> And I did that first the first two years
I was here and they only lasted, like I said, a couple three years. You know, they don't, but you know, that's a long time ago. So, they they I'm sure they're improved now. But we still want to talk about later on the the lighting system where putting up, you know, having going right to the
pole, having permanent lights. That's a bigger job. But for now, we can definitely just do the round lights to light up the flag poles for the for the nights. Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay. >> All right. I'll call. >> And we're not using the same person that you've been
>> That's who we're going to call. >> I'm going to call him and Yeah, I'll call him. He's told me a few times that he will do it and he says, "I'll be there tomorrow. I'll call Todd tomorrow." And he never does. But >> if we keep hounding him, he'll do it. >> Oh, yeah. He He's Yeah, Mike's good. >> He's just busy.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. No problem on that. Yep. >> So, what else you you want to talk about the >> So, uh we could do Captain Levi first. So, this is the plaque that we're going to put that we were talking about over
with the fish when we had our meeting last a couple weeks ago. >> Yeah. >> So, it's 12 in wide by 18 in long. And that's how it's that's how it's going to fit on the uh on the headstone. The headstone's 13 in. So, Bobb's going to be able to mount that right on there
nice and nice and straight. And those are the names of the four children. And then we already have the headstones for for his first wife and his two other children with his first wife. And uh so
we don't have to have we don't have >> So this is going to be in the middle of the back row. >> It's going to That's correct. In the back wall. That's correct. >> Right. >> But it doesn't or I guess people would think of it that
way. I'm just trying to think how people would go. Which one is >> Well, we don't know. >> We don't know 100%. >> That's that's why that's why we did it like this >> because we don't know exactly which ch but I I went by death. I went by death.
So, the first one that died was >> Josiah. He died in two 1823. >> And then next was his was his uh junior, Levi Jr., he died in 24. So, if you're burying somebody, I'm, you know, if I bury someone, I'm going to bury him. and then the next person I'm going to put
over here and then the date the the dates will go up. >> Okay, >> that's kind of how I figured we'd do it. You know, >> that's what we thought, you know. >> So, I would >> kind of makes sense, you know. >> Do we know for sure? No, >> not 100%. That would have to be, you know,
>> but I did tell you how we found Miss Mrs. uh Mrs. Levi, you know, Captain Levi Goodrich because of the length of the box, >> right? Right. >> You know, that's how we knew for a fact that was the adult. And then like I said to the left were the two children. So of
his first wife. What was it? Uh Elmyra and Hannah. Hannah. >> Those. >> Okay. And And you have stones for them. >> We have those. They're in the cell cemetery. >> Okay. So So >> her plot will have a stone and the two children to the left will have a stone.
>> That's correct. That's from his first >> And then the other four >> to the right >> have stones and that's the plaque. >> That's correct. Yes. >> Perfect. And that's that's why we did it like because we don't know for a fact but that's that's the way I would you know anybody I would think 23 24 23 24
26 so >> okay >> 18 26 18 24 Okay. All right. Um you guys all set with this now because uh they want a confirmation the monument to to order this. >> And how much is that? cuz we >> I think it was I think it was two grand
or two grand >> to order the plaque >> to order the plaque and have this all Yeah. Installed. >> Installed. Bobby said installed. >> That's doesn't count the other stuff that's being >> That's correct. This is separate. That's a separate 4,000.
>> Yeah. So So we have uh Right. And so it's 7800 to do the wall. >> Yep. So, two for this. >> Y. >> So, 98 and any other expenses? >> Well, you you were saying repairing
stones by Lemonster, too. >> Yeah. He's going to come up with a price on all that. He's going to fix those stones, power wash them. He's going to help me install them. So, there's going to be another price there. >> Yeah. So, we we probably are shy of >> But we don't have to pay this now. We
just have to order this now. We could do that other work in the spring and then we'd have more money. I'm sure you'll have more money by back by then. >> Yeah, we would have to put that off till the spring. >> Yes. Yeah, because they're they're going to do all that fixing. >> But we would still be um Oh, for this one.
>> Well, we should order this, but we can wait. I mean, you want to wait? >> Maybe we should. I think we should wait. >> Yeah, we can wait on that. >> Is that okay? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> They're not like >> No, that's that's fine. >> Ready to run the front. They want the bronze or anything >> because Donna wanted to make another one. Remember? Yeah. >> She wants to put another one. This is gonna go on the headstone. The next
one's gonna go on the plaque like I mean on the wall like this. >> And that one's gonna say Captain Levi Goodrich family uh it say >> burial burial. Yeah. Captain whatever you guys want to make it say but
remember she had talked about that. So >> yeah because I I wonder um should it say son of like first wife? Not first wife but but then do you want that up there? >> I don't know. garlic problems in the
>> Well, are you definitely sure? >> Well, actually, it does say on Hannah's It does say on Hannah's Hannah's headstone, >> Captain Levi's wife. Yeah. Double check. >> It could be down low. It could be below.
Children of Hannah, you know, >> you know what I mean? So, I mean, if people I guess I guess because we're making visible. So if people look at this, >> can we make it so they understand it without >> Yes. Say add in Hannah.
>> But maybe maybe you don't want it here since he was married to the second wife. >> But the thing is >> you might want to put it down as a a footnote on children of >> a good good rich. I mean if you want to start doing that yeah you could. And I want to get
>> But don't forget now Hannah Hannah >> is is good rich. The first wife is good rich. >> Oh okay. >> So we got to you know we can we can do that. >> Yeah. >> You know >> so instead of putting son on the top we put Joshua underneath put son of
>> I just may maybe even down below just say um children of >> uh so I I see what you're saying. No. So what you want to do, >> he's already got children. >> Yeah. So what you want to do is you want to put not of Levi but not the mother.
>> So this is Levi. This is Elizabeth's kids. Okay. So you want to put the children of Captain Levi Goodrich and his second wife Elizabeth. >> And then that's when we can >> I wouldn't say second wife. Just say Elizabeth. >> Yeah. We're put it down below. Um or put
it down below. Maybe we I think we need an etiquette. Um a person on stone with m You I would think just put the word >> the children of Captain Levi Goodrich and >> Elizabeth.
>> Elizabeth good good >> good good rich >> yeah Elizabeth good >> but then how are you going to how are you going to explain the first wife and the other two kids then >> they're not here are they? >> No they're they got their own headstones >> right? >> Yes.
>> So you just want to keep them like that. >> All right that's fine. Okay, that's >> just so people will know. >> Yep. Yep. You can do that. >> I wouldn't say first or second wife. That's too >> All right. That's fine. >> That's why I say we need a we need an
adequate person because when they walk in there to see the grave and they're going to they're going to see that plaque, right? And then they're going to look over and they're going to see his first wife, Hannah, >> of Captain Levi Goodri. So, it's gonna get it's going to confuse people, you know, just Good Ridge and
>> No, they're just going to think he was very outgoing. >> He certainly was. >> Amazing. >> Yeah, that's a QR code to scan to get the get the whole history, >> which
>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, you could you could do a whole you could do a whole thing on that family, that guy. >> Yeah. You know, so it's good that they're all being recognized now. Oh, that's great, man. >> Right. And all the research Todd did, we
sent over to the historical society, >> Bill Tyler. >> Yeah. Thank you for doing all that. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, that was He allowed me to do it. I work, you know, I work. It's our It's our job really. I mean, we got to find these people. We got to, you know, make it right. >> Yeah.
>> But it was very interesting. >> Oh, yep. Okay. What else? What else? We got >> uh So, what was I going to write? Three. Number three. >> What else? So, you've been doing the leaf cleanup and you picked up all the flags. >> Oh, yeah. The flags. Right. Right. So,
all the all the uh it's not all done. The south is pretty much all done. I got a little bit more work a couple hours tomorrow in the south. Uh and then uh tomorrow we have Lake View coming in to help us clean up everything in the north. And all the shrubs are all taken care of. I haven't put down the
fertilizer yet. I'm going to wait till all the everything's blown up and and picked up and then we'll take care of that. Um, >> are we putting the leaves under the bushes or are we >> No, everything's blown out. Yeah, everything's blown out nice and clean and everything and and you know, we'll see what happens when we get some time
to do uh some of the compost. We'll see if we can get that in there. But right now we I got a little bit of work to do over at Fifth Street now because uh uh Joel Netto uh Prada the Amanda construction they're all set to come in on the 10th
and uh so next week I'll start digging the trenches for the uh for the stone for the where the wall is going to go in the fishry. I'll take care of that. I'll get that ready. Okay. Second I want just want to make sure the second plaque. So, we have the
4x4s granit at the >> Yeah, I got them at the summit at the cemetery. >> But we don't have the chain. We have to purchase, >> right? We have to purchase a chain, but we can get that. We can That's no problem. We can get chain. >> How much is that going to cost? >> Uh, it's 8 ft plus four. What's >> it's going to have to be the thick one.
>> That's correct. Just like in the North Cemetery at the parking lot along that wall. >> Correct. >> Just like that. Yeah. I don't remember how much that was, Dave, but it's only it's only 12 feet. So, >> okay. So, >> yeah, >> not going to be more than a few hundred
dollars or >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Can't imagine. >> Yeah. All right. So, we're going to hold off on the plaque for the spring, >> right? Or late winter. Call Bobby. Okay. That's what I want to make sure of.
Three. Okay. Um, so we're all set with that. Uh, oh, I want to comment on uh Franny Franny McNamera from uh uh Ludenberg Water Department. I had called him Franny Wyman by accident. That was my
father's accountant, I believe, and I said Franny Wyman. I that name just stuck in my head. It's Franny Mcamera I want to thank for the for letting us go there and getting the water because we've been watering every day. >> Okay. >> It's Franny McNamera from the water department. Dave, I said no problem,
Todd. Do whatever you need water. take what you need and we fill up that 210 gallon tank and we've been watering every day. So, thank you for me and those guys. Um, that's really that's all I got. Oh, this is a this is one of the trees I was telling I wanted to tell you guys about that's in the south in the
south cemetery. This is a a a sweet gum tree and this is all red. It's like a it's it's really really a beautiful tree. And remember we had talked about when we do the uh we got to do all that expansion area in the in the
north, you know, we got to we got remember we talked about possibly planting a couple row trees. This is a beautiful tree and it doesn't have any acorns or nuts or anything. Nice and clean, but nice big leaves like that. So nice maple, one of these, couple of those. Just figured I'd show that to you. >> Okay.
>> Okay. That's in South. >> That's in the south. And I believe that was for um I think it was Miles McCarron, the young boy that was >> Oh, okay. That's >> Yeah, I think that was a couple of the trees right where he was. I think it was donated or possibly by the family or
whoever. I think that's part of it. But this is one of the trees. >> It's a beautiful really nice tree with it. >> You know, it's when it's full. >> Okay. >> But just wanted to throw that out there. Okay. I just want to confirm while we're while the DPW is here. The price per
grade we're doing is 800. >> Correct. >> But we do twos and say water. >> We do two for 1,600. But if there's a hardship or something if somebody doesn't want a second grave, >> right? >> And we we allow it. We allow it. >> You allow single. Okay.
>> And um because I'm I want to check around to see if What other we're pretty we're pretty cheap compared to everybody else. We're very cheap. >> Especially the cremations >> and the openings were very cheap.
>> But that's up to you guys. I mean it was >> right, >> you know, has nothing to do we you guys that's your decision. You want to you want to raise that? >> I got I got reports from different towns. I just want to go through and see what they're charging.
>> Okay. and see if we need at the next sometime in the winter months if we want to look into going up a little bit. >> Because the thing that surprises me is maybe
most of the cemeteries are like this is that we take care of the grounds and they only make a one time fee, one time payment. People do there's no
There's no fee to take care of the site. >> Well, that's part of the perpetual care, you know. That's that's what it is. I know. Yeah. >> But it's not much. >> No. >> You know, >> no. >> And to take care of the place and to bring people in and
>> Yeah. >> It seems pretty inexpensive. >> Yeah. and and you know well especially in south the whole front section is um 2 250 years. So how long did that perpetual fair care
>> last? Well, we don't we don't know how what you know what accounts where where's the investment. >> I know years ago when my parents passed away in New York State, they would send us a bill every month for taking care
of, you know, the cemetery and you'd have to pay it. >> Yeah. >> But things have changed at least in this area. So, >> 297 years. So >> 297 >> 297. Yeah. And the in the north is 40
years newer. Well >> Oh, okay. Yeah, >> they're 40 years. >> So yeah. >> Well, I think that since they're historic, too. And obviously, you know, people are buying for perpetual care now. Maybe maybe you
could say it goes back 50 years or you know this but at a certain point it's the town's obligation to fund the maintenance of the historical section. >> Okay. >> Correct. to, you know,
it's just not gonna unless we, you know, you know, we have to look at this too and see the in because really um what was the balance here in the perpetual? It was like um uh
yeah 2 237. Now if we're if we're spending all the interest, but people are still buying lots. So if you buy if you buy a lot, it's going into the principal. >> So that should always be going up, which is sale of lots.
>> And then depending on how much interest you spend, it's like your 401k type of thing, >> right? >> Um >> I just was >> Why isn't there 2 million in this bond then if we've sold lots since 1728?
>> 1728. >> First one is >> or 200 mill. Yeah. So, >> but don't forget the all the money is >> pulled together for the town and put into a >> one account and it's very small
interest. I think it's 2.5% >> or >> I thought it was up quite a bit now. I thought they were doing a 6040 split here. I I listened to them at the um trust fund commissioners meeting. And
they said they have 2.1 million in total trust funds, 1.66 nonexpendable, and they were doing a 6040 split equity bonds. And I thought they said that return was 12%.
>> That's what I heard. 12 >> 12 point. So that's not bad. >> That's not bad. It's risky if things go down, take a downturn, but um yeah. >> Well, I was just looking at the grave,
the cost of the grave, and see what we want to do on that. >> Okay. >> But it'll be next two or three months. Well, I'll get it all together. >> Now, are the um >> decision? Yeah, because I was looking too at how how many lots we were selling
a year. So, we knew here's the fund totals, here's how much new income's coming in. >> Um, for 2025, it seemed the sale of lots was down quite a bit.
Is that are you are you waiting till the winter to add the data or is that accurate in um in >> No, I sold quite a few but I like like I said people are waiting for that new section to open up right now. Okay. >> So like I said I got a folder about 10 12 people
>> that want to go down there you know. So that's what we're waiting for. >> But that number of those 10 or 12 people >> are not in the >> they haven't bought anything yet. They're waiting for they're waiting for the opening. waiting. >> They're waiting. Our role is to ask,
>> are you up to date? >> Well, I'm up to date as in I got to Well, this winter when I go in and do my paperwork and it'll be it'll be up to date by the end of February or uh March. April 1st I'll be back in I can't do that. >> So, the last numbers you give us
>> won't be till April 1st. >> Won't be until April. >> April 1st because then then I'll then I'll have the exact number. You have you don't have anything written down handwritten on your desk or anything of all the >> Dave I got a folder this high I mean I got a stack pile this high from
>> but when someone comes into you you don't take >> let's say five people this past month came into you >> you don't have a piece of paper that says okay you sold this >> no it goes in my pile all that No
that that's that just goes in the pile after I pass the money in and then Then I worry about all that other stuff. I worry about that in the winter time and I add all that in and then I adjust everything on the computer so everybody can see it. And I tell everybody that you won't see it if you look on the map.
If I sold a lot in June, I I tell the family you're not going to see it until until this winter. They're fine with that. Yeah. >> I understand that you're not going to see that in Sims. >> Yeah. >> I'm wondering, do you have an extra sheet that you >> No, I don't. No, I don't. No, I I don't.
You you'll know April month. >> No, I don't. I I I don't, Dave. I'm sorry. I I just don't have time. I I don't know. I've never done that for 12 years. I've been just making selling it and putting it right here and and then when I get in my winter, I'm out of my I'm out of my working mode and I'm in my
paperwork mode and now I got to plow snow. So, I got to that's when I start doing all that. >> So, every every time every month when you sit here, you really don't know. You don't know how much came in. Well, well, you >> until >> April 1st. April 1st when I'm all done
>> when you So, but you're taking checks. >> Absolutely. But all the checks gets all that stuff goes right into the town. >> Goes to the town. So, the town knows. >> So, maybe the town should tell us that >> the town Why Why do you Why do you have Why is that such a concern, Dave, to to to know every month how many how many lots I sell?
>> So, we know >> you're going to know now. We know that 2025 has not been a good year. >> And I just told you why. Because people don't want to buy them. They want to go into >> No, no, no, no. We It may be a good
year. Cuz Todd said we did sell a lot. It's I I reported out of what Sims reported >> and the cut off date was maybe March then. >> Yeah. >> And I didn't see anything else. So
the the thing is we if we we we get a report from the treasurer of here as to how much money came in this year. Here's our our goal is um >> to understand on average yearly how much
revenue we're bringing in >> so we know how these funds are going to grow. >> Right. So you Right. Right. Um, but we'll spend more money per year or le or or we better, you know, are we we want to see things slowly grow, but we don't
want to not do work. >> I I can't if if I if I start doing stuff in the office during my working time, >> I ain't going to get too much done. >> I understand that. >> So, April 1st, April 1st, you'll you'll have a list of all. >> We can ask the town though, too.
>> That's up to you. >> Yeah, we we and we really do. We need to get the town to start giving us report, you know, like a monthly report, >> right, >> of the And it's only two funds. >> So, >> just give us the report. Here's what it was, what's come in
>> for our meeting, >> right? >> Yeah. Okay. >> And then we can then we see >> how they're growing and then we can tweak that spreadsheet and say, look, it looks like about 40k a year is coming in. uh perpetual care is only we can
only spend on that interest. >> Mike, what was last? Let's go back last year. >> Roughly came up with a number I think I I did of like 40k a year reasonable to spend without without um stuffing all the money away or and without spending
>> it down. I mean, we're going really low now. >> Yeah. >> And that that's too low to me. $200 left is >> Yeah. >> So, what was last year? What what did you guys >> what was the number last year >> and and we spent and and yeah we're
about 40k so it I think that works >> but again yeah we don't we don't want to go down we but be nice to go up as fast as you can but we want to get work done too >> right >> I understand >> yeah no this is good this is good
because now we know um we we weren't shy this year and we just need to get the receipts Yeah, >> sounds good. >> I understand you're busy. I wasn't trying to >> Well, it just sounds like now now I got extra. You want me to do extra work? You
want me to start making a list for every meeting? I didn't come to a meeting for three years and now and I before three years ago, I came to every single meeting and I was able to work with everybody. Now, you know, >> I just think it's important that we know what's left in the account
and how many I understand, but you know, I can I can only do so much. >> We should change that through. >> I I know. I know. I I I spend your money. I spend it. I know. I get it. I If I had a second employee, Yeah. Maybe I could pull back into the office a little bit.
>> Go through the town and ask them. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, we should we should ask the town to just be doing that on a like a month basis because it shouldn't be that big a deal for him system. It should just be >> right. >> Yeah. >> And might be able to do it for you. I
I'll try tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Friday. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, you do it instead of the town. >> Yeah. To produce the report you want. I might be able to do it. >> Oh, yeah. Because you you have the town access and >> Yeah. He has access to my computer too. You
can go right on. You can slide right over you know my computer. >> Okay. Uh so talking about money. You want you want to do this one now? >> Yeah. >> Okay. You you want to do that one? You want me to do it or Yeah, >> you can.
>> Okay. >> All right. So this is the new uh Mike. This is this is something. So we had Amanda come in and do that work for $3,000 and How do I want to say this? So, they haven't gotten paid yet because we
we the money that you guys allocated. We I we need to know what minute meeting minute >> uh what part of money it's coming out of. >> What part of money it's going to come out of? >> That was the issue. You know, you guys signed it, we brought it in, and then >> it went to town,
>> right? And they said, "Oh, what part of money is it coming out of?" >> And not only that, they >> but then they missed the cut off to put in for payment. They did that work >> uh October 10th. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> October 9th. >> And they still haven't got paid.
>> But as long as we get this signed tonight from you two, we can get it on the warrant for Tuesday night. And then they could >> Well, it's already in. >> Oh, it's already in. We just got to get this for Mileen. We got to have you. So, from here on in, Mileen made it very simple for us or you us together. Not only before 3 years ago, I used you guys
would sign it or whoever, you know, it would be Lance or Steve or me, you know, well, not me per se, >> but I would have that paperwork and I'd go right to town hall because I know somebody did something for me in the cemeteries and I would give it to my uh not my Lynn or Karen and they would take
care of it right away. you guys got involved and you know it things kind of kind of got out of hand a little bit and this guy's been waiting you know he's since the 10th of >> all then when I came on >> I that's why we got >> years ago or whatever
>> so I >> Bill would just hand to us two of us >> right >> a sheet of paper with the attachment on the back >> and then we would sign it and give to the >> town so what we want to do is we want to have you and Dave sign so now this is for the 3000 that for Amanda to get
paid. You guys sign here. Mileen made this up very simple for us. So when I get an invoice, I give it to you. You guys look at it. We write all the information right here and then the next day I can go right to town hall and do it. You guys don't have to go there. You don't Dave doesn't have to go there. You guys don't have to do that. So my This
is the same thing I do with the uh with the uh the food. Uh we have vendors. We have the paperwork is just like this. >> Yeah. No, this is perfect. >> Yeah. So we have to get the date and the amount. And if you don't mind, we I'd like to do this like right now. Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah. Okay. Because um >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we motioned on the 9th of September. So, >> can we write that down? Can we Okay. >> Oh, I don't Do you have a pen? >> Or or you can fill it out on yours and and I'll sign yours. So, was um the um
data cemetery meeting was September 9th. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. the general ledger account. We said we were going to do that out of um perpetual care. >> Yep. >> So, is that is that um let's see perpetual >> do they need a number or just
>> it's it's fund 8,000 is the fund. Will that do it for now or you can just put Yeah. >> Yeah. I think Mileen's going to make the PO number. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I don't think they're going to do >> Yeah. I think I think I think the town manager wants to do that. 8,0001.
>> I think she said >> what >> 8,000 or 8,000? >> She just told me to have the sign. >> You want perpetual care after that? >> You could say perpetual care. >> Okay. And that way, Mike, it's now when I give you guys something, you guys sign
it. I I right here at the meeting. I go to town next morning. >> What's the company name? >> Amanda. Y >> Yeah, I think so. Then then it's done. uh other they have a warrant people sign it at the meeting and you >> right that way so something happens and
there's a number messed up and they can't do it then we don't miss the cut off date for the for the warrant my guy can get paid I don't want him he's fine but >> I just have a code number I don't have an invoice number >> it's 70 >> we can pencil it in
>> yeah they can y >> and the amount is 7800 >> no no no 3,000 Right. That's that's that's the quote for >> not that we're talking Amanda. $3,000 for Amanda, but that's that's a different that's a different job.
>> Y >> and the purpose description >> uh that was the uh uh wall straightening in the South Cemetery. South Cemetery wall straightening. >> Y >> yeah, that was his first project and he did a great job.
>> Say stone wall repair. Y we haven't filled it out today for the fish street wall. >> Oh, that's a good idea. We can right now. >> Right. So that we get the invoice. >> We can just take it. Right. So you guys want we can do that too >> because we're going to do that. >> Okay. Then you have to sign it and
>> I have to sign under superend. Yeah. Superintendent. >> First. >> Yeah. And I sign after. Right. And then we'll do one for we'll do one for the uh the fish street >> for >> what was it? 65. No. >> 6078. >> 78. Is that what it was?
>> Yeah. 78. >> Okay. Yep. And then I'll have that. >> Well, should we wait till they invoice or um finish the job? We have a meeting in December. >> It's up to you. We can do that. >> Why don't we do it?
>> That's fine. We can wait. That's right. >> You need to print your >> Okay. print on side above. >> Okay, good. >> Yeah, I think this is going to work out good. >> Yeah, it's a good procedure. >> She didn't put a date on there that we
>> She's going to she's going to she's going to date it when I give it to her tomorrow. >> Oh, >> yeah. My >> So now So that's all we got to do now from here on in. just when I come in with a with a thing or we'll just look at it. We'll just fill this out and >> that way
>> if you somebody doesn't get there like a week later or something now now you know and if there's a number missing there was no there was no number on the account there was no number on the uh uh it didn't say 800 so she they didn't know which account to pull the money out
of. So then you know then >> see that seems new to me because before you came on all we would do is take the time they would decide. >> They would decide. >> That was Karen. She had been there forever. So she knew which account to pull it out of. Now there's all new
people in there. >> They don't know. >> Right. That's what happened. So now so Mileen said let's let's do this. This will make everything easy for everybody. >> So okay good. >> Yeah we can wait on that other stuff. No problem. Okay.
>> I guess um >> was there something >> one item is just the north cemetery the back lot expansion they were going to try to get to doing the engineering plans. >> Yeah. So what did they tell us when we
talked to somebody was >> I didn't hear from him this week. >> No, but I thought they told us it was a couple weeks ahead. Yeah, I'm sure he'll be here next week for sure. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. >> So, yeah. >> Yeah, I can reach out to him. >> Yeah. >> See where they're at.
>> Is there a deadline >> to use the money to get this thing done? >> There's not. >> There is no Okay. I didn't know if it was a year or two years or >> Nope. >> That's going to look nice. I can't wait for that to be done. So we really until
he gets back to us or whoever we don't know the cost of this we put in 50 but we don't know if it's going to be more or >> right part of what he's doing is producing a cost estimate. So >> now let's see
is what they do like an attorney they charge every minute or >> Yeah >> because it's taken a while. >> Right. >> Right. But they're not working on it every day. probably got 20 other projects he's working on.
>> I just I'm just looking at the finances, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But they gave us a scope of fee agreement and they they usually come in pretty close to the number. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Uh I think that's really all I got. I
mean uh >> Okay. >> So that's the North Cemetery. South Cemetery. >> How'd you like that meeting though, Mike? We had a good meeting there, right? That was good meeting. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a great meeting. Yeah. >> Yeah. I thought that was >> met the neighbor and everything. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's nice that they're they're willing to help, right? You know, whatever. Mike and uh No, Sean. >> Sean. >> Sean and Julie. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Good. >> Number six. >> Number six, South Cemetery uh stone
straightening planning process. So, we talked about that in the financials. Um And so that would just be something to scale the amount of work to the to the number that we have available. >> They've done they've done some already. >> Yeah.
>> But they haven't finished the other side. >> No. No. They still got a ways to go on that lower road. Talking about the the wall straightening. >> Yeah. Wall straightening at South Street. >> Right. Right. Yeah. They got they did a they did a good 150 ft and you know probably you know we'll do some more but
we'll keep going. >> But but that was separate. just signed the invoice for it. This is um was the other uh proposal of straightening in the old portion of the south cemetery. >> Yeah. >> The headston >> was straightening the headstone. I
should have just said that. Headstone straightening >> uh the planning for that >> and they're they're willing to do that too. >> Okay. But I think by the time they I I I have to say I think by the time we get the fish street done the walls over there I think we're going to be we're going to be we're going to have some
frost in the ground. >> Okay. >> So >> I think we might be putting that off until next year until the spring. >> Okay. >> That 6,500 that you were talking about. >> Right. Right. >> Put that off till the spring. >> We'll do the 7,800 with the walls and the fish >> and then uh we'll do the lights. I think
that'll be it for money. Really? >> Yeah. Because the rest of South Street straightening up on the wall stones, >> we don't have any money to continue on right now. >> No, >> no, no. And and to that that's a big job
then because if the 150 ft is 3k and those go back you know five times that on both sides we I think we need to go to town meeting or find a a grant source to um finish
the complete repair of the stone walls. >> Yeah. >> What do you think? I mean because it's gonna be a big bill, >> right? >> The state has that. >> So it's >> you can go through the state. >> Three. How many feet?
>> Four grand. >> Good try. >> All the way to the end. >> No. How many feet were they doing for the $3,000 they're doing? >> They did 150 ft. Yeah. >> And how many feet is the the wall? >> All the way down. It's almost 800 ft.
But we're not going to do that. We're just Right. all the way down in the back. We're going to leave that alone, but we are going to do, >> you know, the main portion of it all the way down. >> So then one side, the right side, >> would you say there's >> 600 ft? >> 600 >> 550 ft. 600 ft.
>> We don't have to do down in the back. >> So it's going to cost $6,000 to do one side. >> Yeah. >> So possibly >> possibly. But they might be able to get away with, you know, they might do 50 feet with just a fixing the tops. Some of it might have to be rebuilt like I
showed you in the in the they tore it right down at 50 feet. They tore it right down and rebuilt it because it was all leaning back into the next guy's yacht. >> But they're not doing >> That's the hill. >> That's hill side. So the the other side is level. May not be as bad, right?
>> Well, it's >> Well, no, the other side's No, the other side's not bad. It's nice and level all the way down. >> Yeah, >> but but it's broken. >> Yeah, this it's broken down. >> Yeah, it's You got all those trees there that push everything back. So now we got to, you know, they got to break it down and pull it back in. And you know, it's
labor. It's all labor. It's all labor. >> But they're not for the rest of this year. They're not doing South Street now. >> No. No. That's all done. That's all done. We're going to concentrate on Fish Street. >> Okay. >> Fish Fish fishing Lincoln. And get that Captain Levice all done. The wall. The wall.
>> So I think after fish, >> it should be the front part of the south, the stone straightening and the repair of the the stones. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. >> In the old part >> to repair the stones and the straightening of >> Yeah. The stones.
>> No, not the stone wall. What am I saying? The head. It should be headstone straightening and headstone repair. >> See, see, we're doing three projects at once where I did nothing for three years. Well, I shouldn't say nothing, but I did no projects, you know, except for the hedges. >> Yeah.
>> You know, now here we are >> going full force, which is fine. >> Which is fine, you know. But uh >> yeah, >> we're doing all right. We're doing >> once we find out from the town >> how much has come in so far this year. >> Yeah.
>> We can then predict if we need to use more >> money. Did you say you could >> to take care of it? >> Right. >> Okay. >> The rest of what we want to do. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Sure. >> You don't mind? So can >> Bill uh Dave, he's going to look at that too tomorrow. Well, he's gonna look at
that, too. >> Okay. I >> I see what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But >> yeah, >> I mean to me 40,000 is a lot to use in one year. But if we have if we know that
more people that you've taken applications or you're going to be taking more applications in 2025. >> Yeah. >> Than what we know of right now. >> Yeah. Then maybe we could take >> like I told you what I what I think you guys should do when we get this this
project going. Write something in the article, the Lunberg ledger and put it out there saying cemetery commission expan expansion with the DPW blah blah blah. We got all these lots. We're going to have a beautiful area out there. Come look at it and you know get set up. Buy
buy your lots. You know I don't know something. >> You're getting a lot of money right there. I'm sure. You know, >> I gotta be careful when we put stuff in the loom ledger. Yeah, >> we did that once. >> But I'm just saying, you know, if you wanna >> I think we're gonna get permission before we do it. >> Yeah. The most most of the time
>> Yeah. We'll make sure what we're doing is >> most of the time when I sell a lot, it's because somebody passed away, you know. I know. >> And that's they got to get things going, you know. >> People put that off. But like I said, everybody's been talking about the new expansion area. That's why I got a folder full 10 people, 12 people.
>> Yeah. And that's what I think you should do. Let everybody know, you know, go see Todd and sell lots and buy a lot. >> Discounts for discounts. >> That's how you're going to get money. I mean, and then then, you know, raise the rate if you need to.
>> Yeah. Oh, we're going to have to raise I think. I just don't know how much. Okay. What's next? >> We cover Fish Street. Uh >> we did the Next meeting >> December 11th.
>> December 11th. >> Any uh comments from the board? >> No comments. Motion to >> any comments from DPW? >> No. I'm just uh you know >> just happy we're moving on. We're doing We got three big projects here that uh
That's good. It's good. This is really This is good. I like This is This is important. That should be in the ledger. We should You guys should make something up there. And >> we're cemeteries are open until >> till we get snow. >> And I mean, you know, >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
>> if it gets icy, if we get rain and we get some ice, you know, we got to close it. But it doesn't mean it has to stay closed. I mean, if if this if the ice is out, if it >> thaws out and we're all right again, >> then we'll open back up, you know. >> Okay. >> Yeah.
>> Make a motion that we adjourn at 6:55 p.m. >> Second. All in favor? I Thank you very much. Yeah. Thanks, Dave. Thank you.