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ready. >> All right. Yeah, I'll mute and uh my battery's running low. Let me just >> extension. Mr. Dave, >> how are you? >> This is the cemetery commission.

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>> Good to see you. >> How are you? Good to be seen. Thanks for the uh fruit basket we sent when I was in seven hospitals. I appreciate it. Where do I need to >> like real quick? >> Hi.

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>> So, let's see here. Why don't I uh call the meeting to order at 603? And I'll just uh note what we say here on our agenda. In accordance with the

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requirement of the open meeting law, please be advised that this meeting is being recorded and will be uploaded to the Lunberg Access YouTube after the meeting. This meeting will be held in person at the location provided on this notice. Members of the public are welcome to

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attend this inperson meeting. Please note that while an option for remote attendance and or participation is being provided as a courtesy to the public, the meeting will not be suspended or terminated if technology problems interrupt the virtual broadcast

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unless otherwise required by law. Members of the public with particular interest in any specific item on this agenda should make plans for in-person versus virtual attendance accordingly. Thank you. Uh

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should we all rise for the pledge of >> allegiance? I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. Okay. So, review and approve minutes. We have the minutes from uh April 23rd, 2026 that we held here in the Sabul

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conference room. We have the minutes uh from attending uh the Shirley Cemetery uh committee meeting on natural burial at the Hazen Memorial Library which we just int

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attended for information or debate uh was was occurred and uh the Lunberg North Cemetery meeting minutes on June 5th, 2026. any >> question on um

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I don't know if that's the right >> I guess halfway down almost when it says June 14th John Bowling Jr. to champion ceremony. What's it? >> Where are you? >> Which Oh, should we just go one by one then? >> Yeah. April 23rd.

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>> Okay. April 23rd, 2026 meeting minutes. >> Yes. >> To champion. >> Yeah. Well, to to uh >> coordinate >> coordinate coordinate. a little busy. >> It was a champion someplace or

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>> Yes. So he he he put the whole uh ceremony together, work with the Todd Gold. >> So >> and uh wrote a nice uh >> So it's coordinate ceremony. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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That one here. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But I don't know if it was stated as champion coordinator. >> I didn't use that word. So, >> okay. But then you don't work. >> Okay.

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And then uh one thing I noted was um right up front the DPW discussed is it Mike McGrath of the historical society or Vernon >> Rich? >> Rich McGrath. >> Richard McGrath.

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>> Okay. So Richard, that's it. >> Richard, >> I should have you look at my before I send them out. Huh? Yeah, he's got the uh Levi stone. >> I got to call him tomorrow.

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>> Any um other comments on the June uh April 23rd, 2026 meeting minutes? >> Can I entertain a motion to accept these

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minutes as amended? Mike to Richard and Champion to coordinate. >> Yes. Second motion. >> I make a motion that we >> accepted with the corrections made. >> Okay. Do I have a second? >> I do. I second the motion.

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>> All in favor? >> I got these right here. >> Yep. on to the NE memorial library meeting minutes where we attended

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uh but no deliberation took place. Any comments to those meeting minutes? Acceptable. >> Would you like to make a motion? Make a motion that we accept the minutes to Thursday, May 15th, Hazen Memorial

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Library. >> I second the motion. >> All in favor? >> I. And last but not least, the uh Lunberg North Cemetery meeting on June 5th, 2026.

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This comments difference in the months from the meeting minutes of April 12th for the North cemetery was around 140,000 and the meeting of minutes from June 5th

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was 300 to 160. >> Okay. But we're just reviewing the minutes. Those those amounts were what we talked about. So, are those accurate? And then if we get when we get into the um backlog expansion, if we want to talk

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about differences in amounts, we can. But we're just we're just documenting the specific uh amounts made at that meeting. No comments. >> Okay. Make a motion we approve Friday

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June 5th meetings minutes. >> I second the motion. >> All in favor? I >> Great. Thank you. Okay.

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on to invoices due. I think the only outstanding invoice would >> Yes. >> public comment. >> Oh, uh, public comment. >> Yes. >> Dave Rogers, 82 Highland student. Um, I

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have in the past been very vocal about uh what I consider to be some shortcomings with the cemetery specifically around holidays and and the mowing there and uh

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and uh I I'm here to say that I am uh pleased with what has taken care taken place because it's a big difference. the cemeteries really looks perfect. I mean I so I'm the kind of a guy I might you

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know complain but when you know good things are needed to be say said I I try to do that as well. So uh for the record I want to congratulate everybody that was uh concerned about that uh because

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the outcome was great. So I would like that uh added as part of the record if I could. In addition to that, uh, Luenberg is a great place and it's the first first time this ever happened to me in the 50 years that we've been here,

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but our flag out in front that my wife and I put up uh was stolen. I don't know who, but it was we we replaced it. Uh, and we also came up with a a flag that was in kind of sort

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of disrepair. So, I want to drop this off in hopes that someone uh who's responsible for this can can uh uh dispose of it accordingly. Okay. >> So, those are the two issues that I have

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and uh u I want to thank those involved. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. >> All right. >> I'll take that. I'll put it I got some more already. Do you? >> I'll put it in I'll put it in the back. >> Thank you so much. Yeah. Uh, I'd like to stay, but my wife uh is out in the car

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and uh she said the ice cream was going to mel my fat rear end out there. So, uh you uh for those of you that know her, um you don't want to mess with him. So, thank you again and I will exit

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stage one. Nice to see everybody and thank you again for what you're doing for the the veterans and and uh the cemetery. >> Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for coming. Pleasure to see you. >> Appreciate our audience. >> All right. >> I don't think you want to message me anyway.

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>> No, I'll I'll go up my uh uh deck and call you, but I don't know if you'll hear me. >> Yeah, >> I'll listen for it. >> Okay. I'll I'll give you a bus. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yep. See you. Nice to see you. >> Nice to see you. >> You look like a million bucks. >> Really?

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>> Yeah. Green and wrinkles. Give me five. Okay. Um, any public comment from the board? I would I would like to thank uh John Bowen Jr. for his efforts uh and all the

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diligence put into the flag burning ceremony and Todd Holman and Bill Bernard for uh supporting that. Uh that was a a a nice uh presentation and a good amount of

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work put in and uh the Boy Scouts of Troop 1728 uh did a great job there along with the Marines and also uh cemetery commissioners and myself and uh Donaldry. So it was good to see

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everybody. >> That was a good that was a good event. That was really what it was. >> I I thought I was too and I did want to bring something up and maybe this is for future that maybe we can think about this. We should have really put

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something online and I realized afterwards that we should probably have put it on discussing weenberg but I'm not sure who that would come from. Would it be from It would have to come from one of our personal accounts. I don't know if we could act as the town. It was just something that I thought we should bring

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up because a lot of people are on that page. So maybe the next time we have something involving a ceremony then we do post it ahead of time instead of just doing something on YouTube. >> Sure. Sure. Absolutely.

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>> Okay. We can look into how to post. Yeah. >> I just thought it was a good idea. commissioned. No other further public comment. Um, invoices. We have the SIMS cloud annual maintenance uh and burial search

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uh hosting renewals for $2,691. how much is in what we haven't and we would >> we haven't gone through that, >> right? We would we I believe we pay for that out of perpetual care. >> Okay, >> we know how you got could save some

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money out of that, you know, by not having it. >> By not having the software. Yeah, the soft software is already you're paying double for a software that you guys don't really need to pay because we already have it in my office. You could still access it through my through our

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computer and our system. >> That's that's actually a good point cuz I I haven't used it in I don't know if you have. >> I don't know if we should I don't know is there something we want to bring. I mean, we we can I we should I mean, you really >> The only difference is is the is the the

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the death certificates in in the DD214s. That's that's the veterans stuff. That's the only thing that you guys don't have access to in and right now you do. >> But they've also given us free

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>> They've also given us free information when we needed something. >> Yeah. >> They looked it up and they got it for us. >> That's right. They they can do that, but you're paying >> you're paying twice the money. You you don't need to do that. >> Well, it isn't it isn't twice, but it is

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extra for the view only license. >> So, you you have the full service license and then there's an extra for the second view only, >> but you don't really need that. >> Um >> it's only two sales of watch to to pay

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for So we can I can go back. >> Well, how much is that for the second >> and ask him to uh break that out? I think I think he did do >> because everything on my computer you guys have access to except for the death certificates and the DD214s. >> Everything else you guys have access to.

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>> So whatever you're paying $2700 for something that you don't need, you already have it. >> Yeah. Let's see. >> I thought it was mentioned years ago that we didn't have access to what you had. That's why we we bought this.

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>> That's correct. No, you you guys you guys w you you weren't supposed to have access to the DD214s and the death certificates. That was never that was never that was never part of the cemetery commission was not supposed to see that stuff. You guys weren't cuz you

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guys come and go. You guys, you know, there's certain people that come in. That's stuff that you guys don't need to see. That was only that that's only for the superintendent and and Bill Bernard if he needs to look at it. But he doesn't even need to look at just >> why wouldn't the cemetery commission need to see >> because you you guys don't need to see

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that stuff. You guys don't need to see death certificates and manners of death and stuff like that. That's not that's not what that was for. >> You guys have every access to everything else except for that. >> So you're paying 22 whatever it is. Mike, I don't know what you're paying

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but >> it's it's not broken out. I mean you guys >> it should it should be um but I asked them to break it out. >> Yeah. >> When's it >> in the way in the way that you guys got

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that license was was not correct? >> The um >> when's it due? >> When's it due to be paid? >> The cloud annual maintenance is uh 14.91 and the burial search annual hosting is

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1,200. So, I think that um the extra just view only is is part of the 1,200, but I can go back and ask him because it's it's not due till um yeah,

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>> you guys could save yourself $1,200 right there on the spot. >> Um >> it going to be 1,200. >> How much? >> What was it? 20. I thought it was 20. I thought it was >> Well, this the current bill doesn't break it up. >> Yeah. Well, before Well, I we can go back four years ago and check on it and

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see what it was. I thought it was like $2,000 that was spending. Save that money right there. They have access to my computer and everything else. The only thing they can't see is the death certificates and the D214s. It's just something I got to bring it up

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since you guys are talking about money, you know. Yeah, I can dig that up. Um, so >> postpone this to next meeting. >> Yeah, postpone it to uh next meeting. >> It is a fra fraction of it. I mean, we

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could we could do without having the instant and just work with you for information extraction >> because when has have you ever used the software? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was just looking at it and >> yeah, you guys have the right to call the call call Ray Maker. You guys could

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do that like I do. I do it all the time. You guys can call and get in updates and all that information. >> The the only thing is like I said, the only thing before before a certain commission got on here. Nobody had that before. Nobody had the

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information of of that stuff of those but the death how manner of death and stuff like that. in the DD214s. That wasn't that wasn't part of uh Lance and those guys. They never wanted it. There was never they didn't care about that stuff. They cared about everything else. Me, Evan, all the system to do

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everything. But like I told you before, you guys can come right here. You guys could look at all my stuff except for the desk. >> Well, you guys ended up somebody on the commission. You know, I don't know how to say. >> And why just out of curiosity? Why wouldn't we want to know? Because we

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because you guys don't need to know who because because before you got on this board and before the past commission got on this board, >> you guys didn't need to know who how people died. You that wasn't part of the that wasn't part of this. So your past

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commissioner got it in ways that she she shouldn't have done. I don't want to say well how it you just didn't need to see that stuff. Dave that wasn't available. That wasn't supposed to be available. segmented the

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>> not for the commission the >> there's there's images >> and there's categories you can put the images in. So if the images are put in the right categories you can say well these people don't have view access to that.

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>> So if you put all your DD214s and and these this category >> Yeah. >> then the user going in on the Cemetery Commission license can't see those. That's correct. That's correct. >> So, we don't have access to them unless they're

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>> unless you get unless you get a second license, which you did. So, now you're paying for that. >> No, our our ours is view only and then what we see is limited on on the personal information. >> You guys can see the DD214s in the desk.

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>> We have a second license now. >> Yeah. >> But it's a viewer right now. Yeah, >> Nancy got the license to to see all that information. >> No, no, no, no. It's it's it's it's one bundle. You you have complete access and ours is

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just a view >> and the difference like we're we're the town anybody in the town as you can see. >> That's right. >> Can pull up the information. >> Yeah. >> And and then they um >> Right. >> You know, you you could just you just

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type in say Smith and uh this is what you can see, you know. >> Exactly. >> So you can anybody in the town can do uh burial searches and and there's actually online software too to get you to that too.

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>> So Mike, you can't see you can't see the death certificates. >> No, no. This is kind of what you you see you can see the JPEGs. >> I I I Yeah, I know. >> So this is this is what we can see. And you know that's probably the uh >> deed. That's

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>> what's the paperwork there? What's that? >> That's the deed here. >> Yeah, that's the deed. >> Oh, that's the deed. Okay. >> You know, so that's that's what but the what our copy gets us is that we can also like um

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if if uh you come up like you can't run reports or anything. So we can run reports too. >> Yeah. Right. >> Right. So that that helps if but we can just let you run the reports because some of the reports are blank because we

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we we don't have >> all I'm saying is up until up until four years ago none of the commission members had access to the to to DD 14s right >> and death certificates >> he's saying no we still don't >> when did that when did you guys downgrade that? I I don't remember ever

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talking about that. >> I I can ask him how he he does that but um because that's news that's first news to me. I don't know who, you know, you can see uh was it Brandon Finley from from >> Probably Brandon.

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>> It's Brandon, >> you know, you can see the uh >> Well, that's okay then. I mean, that then everything's fine. If you want to continue to use that system and pay that extra money, that's fine as long as you guys don't have access. >> I don't have a problem giving it up. Um

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and we'll just work with >> I just think it's a waste of money. Yeah, it it's probably still $7 $800. So, we can we can forfeit that and I'll contact him and see >> Yeah. >> if it's not too late to take that out for this year.

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>> Yeah. Okay. >> Um, >> but then we have to put more work on to Todd if we want to see something. He has to run the reports and right now you got enough to do. >> No, no, you could still you can still you can still look at everything in the computer. You can see everything I see.

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The only thing that you're not going to see is the death certificates and the DD214s. You can do everything else that that's the way it was before before this all came about this problem. You guys had everything. You could see everything on my computer and run all kinds of reports and do whatever you wanted to.

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The only thing that was left out was two screens, the the DD214s and and the desks. >> Nobody else. >> If we dropped the view block into that >> then if we used your computer, we'd see everything. So, we would rely on you to

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do it and that's fine. I think that's fine. >> What did you guys I don't remember. I never heard you guys do that to turn I mean did a >> I'll ask them you know that that's that's what we can see. >> Yeah. I mean that's great. I mean if that's if that's it then great. I

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>> I didn't know that. I didn't know you guys did that. >> All right. >> I haven't used it in so long. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And the thing too, they do give us uh x amount of hours to do um GIS updates. >> Mhm. >> Yeah.

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>> So, we should we should take advantage of that when we get finish the layout of the new back lot. >> Uh get get them to to load that up. >> And you're not going to get those hours if we separate if we >> No, I'll ask them. I'll just say we

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don't need the uh view only. Is is that what's the Well, I ask him what the cost is. So, we don't that's not an essential uh >> because we do want the maintenance and the the viewing, >> right? >> Of what he helped us with before.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I think that's 3 to four hours, >> right? >> That's free. >> Yeah. So Mike, one of the emails says the 1420 is your annual maintenance fee for one full license and one read only license.

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>> Okay. >> You have a full license. >> Yeah. is to follow you with the read, >> right? >> And then the 1200 is to put it up on the public facing side. >> So we can't get out of the,200 though.

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We could reduce the the 1400 if >> you give up the read only license. >> Is that with or without seeing that information? Cuz if if they want to pay >> I don't know what >> See that's what I'm talking see see this is a it's a >> so we need to find out when that

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happened when when do you guys remember when you guys downgraded the license >> to it was the previous commission so it's not last year it was the year before. >> See I don't remember that. I don't remember that. That's why that's why I brought it up.

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>> Well you weren't in the meetings most of the time. >> Well that's right. That's that's correct Dave. I wasn't in the meeting for three years. That's correct. Okay, >> that's right. >> But yeah, I think was the not last year. I think it was the year before. >> Yeah, it has to be the year before. Okay. All right. Well, I mean, if you

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guys want to keep it in, that's all that was my concern. >> We'll just >> Yeah, you guys >> Michael check. >> Yeah. >> And see what the layout is. >> Okay. Now, if anything,

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would we still have access if anything happened to Todd? Like he decides he wants to leave or he's injured or whatever through you, do we still have access to the portal? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Username and password. That's it.

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>> Right. I'm >> You never know if we make changes and you decide to work for another town. I I ain't working though. Trust me, I ain't working nowhere else. >> Keep changing. >> Don't worry about that, Dave. I ain't going. >> But that's that's just a a email to

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Brandon has. >> Yeah, let me know. >> Username and password. >> Do you want me to contact Brandon? Would that be one less thing for you to do? >> Yeah, if you if you like to. Sure. >> Sure, I can do that. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Can you get a breakdown from him? A layout?

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>> Yep. >> What everything goes for? Yeah, because if you could get all that the same thing again without having that, >> it's $1,200. >> Yeah. And it's read only. So, it's not like we can help you out and enter your information. You have to do that through

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your portal. So, >> um they they have everything here uh except for reports, but the reports can just be run uh Okay. Anything else on uh the SIMS maintenance and software? Okay.

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We'll pick that up next meeting. >> Next meeting. >> Uh next item, Shirley Cemetery Commission Forum. We uh attended that on um natural burial.

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And Shirley has uh they did a video they showed uh it in Maine I believe. Um basically it's it's uh burial of the body without a a vault or casket.

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Uh >> and there's a lot of people um I I talked to two people that were from Lunenburgg >> while that was there and they were very interested. So, I don't think we can just shove it aside. I think we should

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look into it. >> I thought the law was you have to be in a vault. >> No, not from what they're saying. >> But it did take him a number of years. >> Yeah. >> To get it approved. >> Mhm. >> Well, our rules say that you have to be in a vault. So,

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>> it's happening. >> Yeah. It's in our rules. You have to be within a vault. >> Yeah. But rules for >> Yeah. But we're going to have to find something. I mean, I can >> natural burial. We don't have rules for that. >> I belong to the Massachusetts Cemetery

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Association. I can find out exactly how that works also, you know. >> Yeah, I think we should do it as a as a >> There is an office that does that, right? >> Didn't they say they called the state and they had an office, but just natural

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>> um I think they had embalming is not required by law. >> No cremate cremated remains in the Okay. So they have a high salt

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content. That's what is at the meeting. >> So there's no vault. >> There's nothing required by >> being involved. That's rags. >> There's nothing required by master >> a shroud and that's because of the they said they didn't do that because of the

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inbalming fluids going into the earth. >> Right. >> So, how quick do they have to get the body in the ground cuz it's going to smell? Well, they they said actually, you know, there's a difference between

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real life body decomposition and like the movies and, you know, you do have days before you're uh assuming you're not out in, you know, exposed your body. >> Yeah. >> Where you haven't started to decompose

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because of some other reason, >> right? They only have to go down three and a half to four feet. >> Wow. No kidding. That's all they have to >> and they do. >> But nowadays, people pass away and it might be a week or more before they're buried. >> But then they put them in the vault at

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the >> funeral home. Funeral >> home is refrigerated or the mausoleum. Yeah. >> It must be the same almost. You know, you're using a funeral home. >> Talking about the mausoleum, I I talked to a few funeral directors. They they

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really want to rent out the mausoleum for for bodies over the winter. I think I think maybe we should we should decide to maybe do that, you know, 300 bucks, 400 bucks, something like that. >> Put them in cuz Yeah. >> Who's asking for that?

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>> A few of the funeral directors that I've been working with asking me if if we could rent the mausoleium. I said I'd bring it up at the meeting tonight. >> So, >> in their mausoleum or >> Well, they don't have mausoleiums. They they just have it in their in their in their funeral director's home, wherever it is. It's either in the garage or down

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in the basement. >> But we take the bodies from the winter and put them in our nice mausoleum, you know. And >> how many spaces do we have in >> 15? Okay. >> And the first year I built that, I I had 12 people in there the first year and then it's totally dropped off since then.

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>> So 15 out of How many total there? >> I had 12. I There's 15 squares and I had 12 people in the first year. had it and since then it's I've only had a couple here and there and that's it. But >> is that the old one then? >> The old one the old one you could put

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nine in there but it's very it's very tight. It's not like it's not like today's caskets back then it was just pine boxes. So you you can't put nine bodies in there. You could probably put six but not nine. So if you guys think about maybe wanting to rent that out this coming winter, that's there's

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there's some revenue right there, you know. So, I'm not opposed to it if there's u space. >> Yeah, I get asked all the time. They ask me all the time. I says I'll find it. I'll ask them. You know, >> I thought there was over 20.

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>> Are we talking about the same one that's in the north cemetery? >> Yeah, the mo the mausoleum where they put the bodies. Yeah. The niche the niche wall is on the on the back side. The niche wall is where the the cremations go. The niche wall. And then on the street side, I put the bodies inside where I put the bodies for the winter. That's the mausoleum. Oh,

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>> it's like the same thing. >> Yeah. Right. So, the mausoleum is is all brick and that's what we built first for the bodies. And then we did the niche wall and that's a bit that's an 18inch panel. >> It's it's made out of aluminum and then that we bolted that to the back of the uh the brick. So, we drilled four holes

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and we drilled into the into the mausoleum and put plates and nuts on the back. That's what holds the uh the niche wall up. So, you got the mausoleum in the front, street side, and then on the back, the parking lot side, you have the niche walls where we where we sell for $1,000 a piece. >> So, yeah.

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>> Does that have any climate control in it or >> No, but when I dug it, I I when I dug it, I dug like like 5t down. I got really deep and put a lot of crush stone just so you can get that that air up in there. >> So, when it's hot out there, you can go in there. It's not too bad. >> And in the winter time,

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>> in the winter time, it's cold. >> It's cold. >> It's cold. And that's what you want most of the time. >> Also, there's um I'm not sure if it's the supervisor, cemetery supervisor for Westford or Shirley, but Conor Mendes is

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the other person that we can he'll have a lot of information. >> Uh his name is Conor Mendes. I picked that up when we were leaving. >> Right. Right. >> But I don't I think that's Westford. I'm not sure. It's either west or or um

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surely >> and they do it sequentially. You're not getting plus ahead of time. >> You're getting next available spot to bury >> right now in the north. Yes. >> No. No. I mean for natural burial

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>> they they just say here's here's where it's going to be and you just start at one spot and the next next next. You don't buy You don't buy your >> You don't buy your plot. >> So, do we designate an area for it then? >> Yeah, you would you would say whatever

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we need. What where do we for a plot like six by You just leave like six by 100 ft and you're just kind of go down or in Maine they showed it. You have to probably in the woods a bit. So, you're you're probably going into different but

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you just >> you're just going sequentially. So in our case, like the the expansion area in the north would just pick a row. This is the road where we're going to do these. >> Well, I think even you would probably say like in the back maybe where you're

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not going to do uh you might say, okay, along the back perimeter, we'll just go >> Yeah, maybe work our way >> maybe where the where the uh where the the eight lock cremation area is going to be. We could start it from the wall, from the street, go about halfway,

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>> stop, and then that next half going towards the woods could be >> the >> what do they call it again? >> Natural burial. >> Natural burials. >> Do they have markers? >> Yes, >> they they'd have to have marks. How could you? >> Well, take just a regular stone.

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>> So, how do you >> and and engrave on that? >> Do they put is there cremation? How do you do that? I mean, so if you put a body in the ground and say the husband wants to be next to his wife, how how do you sell the lots? I mean, how do you >> you're you're not you're you're in that

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spot. And >> so you could be next to Tom, Dick, and Harry next. >> Yep. >> It's kind of weird, huh? >> I mean, I don't see why we couldn't. So, >> you don't want to dig where the body is. >> Well, what's to say this? I bury uh I do

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this and I bury this lady here and three years down the road, the husband's going got cancer. He wants to die. He wants to be next to his wife. He's going to have to go down the road. >> Yeah. Bodies down. >> Is that what they do? >> Really? >> I think so. >> We should look into that. >> There's a lot of questions there for me.

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>> You might you might be able to after the first person say, "Okay, we're going to >> put one on top of the other." You'd have to go deeper >> or or you give them extra room. Yeah. >> Yep. You don't want to dig >> when when we do our burial, >> too. That's going to be difficult. >> This is how our burials are. When we do

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a vault, I'm 3 in away. >> So, so when you when you now now you get it's 3 foot >> 3T 8 uh 3'4, right? 3T4 and there's a vault here and a vault here and there's probably three inches here, three inches to the next one. But when we do the pre when we do the natural bodies, they're

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going to be like are they going to be right next to how how am I going to fly, right? >> How can I dig that if I'm how am I going to know I'm going to be digging? >> We got to look into that. We got to look. They didn't mention that. How you know what I'm saying? If I'm going to put a body here and then say a year passes, I'm going to put another

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body there and the grass is all growing. I'm not going to know exactly exactly where it is. What happens if I have to? >> But it's all from what they said. It's all like nature. You don't have to do what you're talking about doing for the new section where you have to dig up the old dirt and put it. You don't do that.

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You just leave it the way it was. >> You're going into what's there. What's there? >> And you're becoming part of the earth. >> I guess we could probably >> I think that was the main the main looked like it was a cart, you know, a cart road and >> Yeah. >> Here's your spot. We we got you between

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this road and and but but the Shirley they dedicated a spot in the back. >> Do they do they dig it by hand? Do they do they dig it? >> It's done. It's That's a good question, but I know it's done beforehand. >> Yeah, >> by hand. >> I don't know if it's done. I wonder.

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>> I don't think he's done by him. >> No. >> Yeah. We got There's a lot of questions there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was They're doing it. They're They're doing it. >> See, I always thought it was a plant. You You buried the Really? I thought it was a tree. I thought I thought a

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natural body. I didn't hear about this until a few years ago when you guys brought it up. You You buried somebody and then you put a tree there or a shrub or something and that was >> But you're saying they just wrap up. send me the questions you have and I can check with this uh Conor Mendes and

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>> he'll know >> cuz he's been doing it for years. >> Wow. >> From what they said. >> He's the cemetery supervisor >> in Weston. >> I think it's Wester.

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>> Did you get that? >> Yeah. There's interest. There were a couple Lunberg residents there and a Lunberg resident posted it on on the one of the town public pages and >> Mhm.

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>> that's what kicked us off. Okay. All right. On to DPW director and superintendent reports. All right. So, back and forth with Dillis and Roy

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again. So, I handed everybody one of these. They got it down to um 62,000 then with the contingencies just under 79,000. I don't think we're going to get it much

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lower. >> No, that's that's good. That's good. >> I think it's in the right range that we can go forward with it now. >> Um Right. So I had the 50,000 capital funds. Dillis and Royce going to

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cost maybe 15,000 of that. So there's 35,000. So maybe another 35 to 40,000 from the commission and we can go forward >> with bid

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>> with a bid. Yeah. >> Okay. So, I don't I don't think I need a vote tonight, but I guess I probably need some kind of commitment that you're willing to spend that kind of money to to do this work. >> Now, is this all going to be done in one year or two?

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>> I'm hoping this year, right? Get it out the bid soon, within a month or so, and try to get it done before the snowflies. >> When they reduce these costs, did it cause any hardship for what you have to do?

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>> No. Do you have to do anything extra? >> No. To reduce the cost, we reduce the size, right? Instead of the the full area, we we cut it in half, >> right? And then instead of digging down the full depth we wanted to go, we cut that in half.

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>> Okay. >> Right. So, we had to compromise to get it into our price range, but still doable. Still workable. >> You usually go down how many feet? Six. >> Uh, five, four and a half. 5T. And now we're only going down three and a half.

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>> No, no, we're still going to go down the five feet. But the the reason why we want that two feet is for the cremations on top. We want to be able to have the decent material, >> you know? >> Right. And you leave it like it is now. Anytime it it would rain, as soon as he drove the back out there, it would just

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turn to mud. >> There's too much clay. There's too much clay up top. And >> it packs like a rock. And when it gets wet, it's it's >> slick and mud and and just tears everything up. So, >> right. So, we're going to take out enough of that he can dig the cremation

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holes relatively easy >> and we're not going to ruin the whole place every time the backo goes out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Remember a couple years ago with I did the one in the the north and it was early spring and we had that rain and I

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destroyed >> coming in from the last road coming up trying to get just trying to get the machine up I couldn't even get the machine up there and then I came in from the compost bin and totally destroyed it just to do that burial because it was all clay. It's all clay, >> right? So, it's the same material there

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that >> where he made the mess as >> the new new expansion area. So, we can't have that happening all the time. So, we got to get that material out. >> Yeah. >> The tree removal. >> Mhm. >> Just a question. And I don't know if they do it or not, but

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whoever comes in and removes the tree, they're going to sell. They're going to cut it up and sell it >> right around. >> Is there some way they that we would find somebody that wouldn't charge us if they're going to sell it right around to

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someone else? >> I don't think so. >> I don't think they cost it to get somebody to come in there. It it it would probably cost more than having whoever we get whoever we get is going to hire somebody else to come in and take it and do it and do it.

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>> Other words. Yeah. So So if we say >> so you want to hire someone like Flag or >> we're not we're not part of it now. Now it's now it's in the contract. So once we put it out the bid that that whoever we hire that's going to do that work, that's up to him. He could do it with his own guys or he could sub it out to

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somebody else which is going to be a lot cheaper than >> you're making one bid instead of two bids and I don't have and I don't have time to be dropping trees and >> well >> we had a program we had a program about 5 years ago we had a safety guy that was

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going to come in and cut all the trees for us. They're all acorn trees. They're all oaks. They're all They make a mess. They they're not they're not good for what we >> Yeah, we're going to keep the line in the front by the wall. We're going to keep those beautiful seven up front, but

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that's why we're going to start the burials 30 ft away from the wall. So, all the acorns are going to come down and that's one. >> What about that one tree that has a big hole around it like in the >> That's got to come out. That's Yeah, that's got to come. >> You're going to level the whole >> We have Yeah, that's correct. Well,

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we're going to level it. Pitch it. We're going to level it, but pitch it. Right. >> But we do have a lady I remember I had said uh a lady came in from um where did she come in from? Remember I told her Richtown there in Boston. She came in and >> wants to donate trees. So right now the

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the cost estimate has three trees or four trees in it. Right. >> On this sheet the last four items. >> Oh yeah. Dogwood. >> Yeah. Red cedar. Red man. >> Right. So we can get those donated. >> Yeah. We take those out of the contract.

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>> You can do nice road. Right down the middle, Dave. Right down the middle. >> Yeah, it's short money, but >> because the trees that we have that we want to take down, they're they're all acorns. They just make a mess. They don't they have so much cover that you you have no grass. It's all it's all moss and it's all acorns and it's a hell

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of a mess to pick up, you know. That's why we got to take them out. Half of them are dead. I mean, yeah, some of them are okay. Some of them are not, but we we could get some nice beautiful trees and put some nice maples and and red red maples and ceda. >> Yep.

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>> Okay. >> Do we need to approve this now or >> Well, we we don't really have a complete dollar figure, you know, until it goes out out the bid. We don't know for sure, but I guess I need some kind of commitment that

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you're you're willing to spend the money, right? So, when I you know, >> this amount of money or more >> approximately 40,000. >> Okay. >> So, not the 784.

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>> No, say 45 to make it. And then if people donate trees and >> Right. Oh, and that's off of the um sale of lots, right? Let's see here. >> I don't see lots.

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>> Are we at 106 or we we have to subtract out uh >> 94,000 original in the budget transferable, not sale. >> Ah, there we go. Yeah, 94. >> Right. So, you have it on yours is 74,000. So I think you subtracted out

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some of the other work that you were planning. >> Right. Right. We had agreed to pull 20 out of that to cover uh >> to cover the um stone straightening and >> Right. So you have the money

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>> the stone uh the uh gravestone straightening and south cemetery. >> Okay. >> I think we we signed off on all those invoices. >> Yeah. So this isn't accurate. The 94 should be

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74. You say 20,000. >> Oh, Bill pulled these numbers today. Right. >> So, right now it's showing the year to date is 106,000. Right. But on Mike's sheet, he's showing 74,000. So, we subtracted out some of

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the other work that you've been planning. >> Right. Right. >> Right. I didn't do that. These are actual >> Okay. >> What's sitting in the account today? >> Oh. So, what what's the number that's sitting in the account today? >> The 106. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> 106. >> Yeah.

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>> But we can't forget what you were subtracting before, Mike. Do we know what that was? >> Well, we're saying that was paid. >> Oh, that was paid. >> Well, I guess we need to to verify that the uh invoices were paid. >> That was 9,900. That was that was paid a

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while ago. Yeah. A couple weeks ago. >> So, these are all accurate up to date. That's what you were just saying. >> You have another sheet that says 70. >> Yep. That's month's numbers right there. >> How did you get there? >> And that's that's minus the uh 20. See,

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it's both of these. Yeah, >> it's um sale to 74 and the 20 we move to uh >> the capital fund >> plus a remainder that was in the fund, right?

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>> Yeah. So, it's >> 34,000 remain >> expendable. So, I think we're in good shape because I think I don't know if she actually even moved all that cuz they're saying we can just >> Yeah, but if she's going to remove it, >> if she's going to remove it, then we got

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to be careful. >> Yeah. >> How much we >> with with the movement, we we'd still have the 74, right? So, if we take if we commit the the 40 to 45,000, we're down to 30 around 30k

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right now. Can you bring up on the computer how many sales we had last year and the year before? Cuz I'm I know last year we didn't have that many sales

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of lots. So, this this is um I I got in here, but this but but Dave, the reason the reason we didn't have a lot of sales last year is because I I told you people want to buy in the in in the area. So, they're

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holding off on buying lots. The only lots I'm really selling are the people that are passing away and need something immediately. >> When you said you just said, you know, we didn't have a good year. Well, it's because >> Well, he showed it last time. >> Yeah, I'm just saying. But we didn't have >> We didn't have It's not that we didn't have a good year. I I got a folder, but

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I think we counted 17 people that I have in a folder right here that want to buy in the north in the expansion area. So, it >> wasn't really a bad year. It was just >> They're just waiting. You know what I mean? I I don't It's not >> It's like waiting for the next Apple

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phone to come out. They're just waiting. >> We're waiting for the red stacks to you already. >> I got a folder. Yeah, I got a folder already. Okay, I got you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Right. So, right now we've sold 26 lots this year. >> Oh, 26. >> I thought it was 34. >> 26. 34.

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>> 26. >> 26. >> Well, there's a couple more on my desk. >> 38 burials. >> 38 burials. 38 burials, guys. >> I usually I usually do 30 to 40 a year. And it's a from April 1st till tomorrow.

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I've done how many? >> 28. You said >> Oh, no. This is the fiscal year. >> Oh, I'm I'm talking from April 1st. From April 1st till tomorrow, I've done 27 burials, >> nine full body, and I think 18

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cremations, right? >> And I've sold 34 lots since April 1st till now. >> Is that money in this? >> I think 106. >> Yeah. >> Is it already in there or is it

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>> Maybe we should just walk through this thing. Okay, >> cuz these are all the numbers out of our munis system, right? So these are accurate. >> Okay, >> so yeah, let's just walk through uh the rows. So perpetual care, um our current

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balance is 241. Okay. >> Yes. Okay. So I thought I sent you the spreadsheet. I didn't. um where it says the label ABCD, I have a tab in the spreadsheet that shows the backup for each one of these. >> Oh, okay.

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>> So, I'll send it to you tomorrow. >> Okay. >> So, that a balance perpetual care principle. We don't touch that. We just touch the sale of lots cuz it says non-expendable, >> right? You can use the interest from

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that. >> So, what is B then? income perpetual care minus7500 uh >> 26 lots sold. >> That's from 26 lots sold. >> Oh, at at 300 per lot that we deposit,

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>> right? Yeah. I should have I should have sent you the file so you can see it back up, >> right? Okay. So that it wouldn't be a negative, would it? >> This is all the people that want to buy in. >> Um immunist when it's negative that

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means income. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah, it's >> so it's a plus in less. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So that's good, >> right? >> So that was income into perpetual care this this year today. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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And trees and soul. So and then C expenditure purchase of service that was lake view. Okay. So that was all the work. Okay. So wall straightening from Amanda came out of perpetual care. Okay. So our our actual uh sale lots will be

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>> even healthier. Um and then uh expenditure supplies. Okay. >> So the expenditures already came out. That's >> okay. >> Y so that's all done. And then uh >> then we have a balance sale of lots.

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>> Okay. And then sale of lots. We're at 106. >> Okay. All right. So then then the 14,700 is is the uh sale of lots portion of the lot sale which is 500 per lot. Yeah. >> Yep.

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>> Investment income. Oh, good. Okay. So that's from uh from the trust funds the interest. >> Yep. >> So which >> okay >> which part are we allowed to use? I know

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it says here uh sale of lots income. We're allowed to use that. cash balance of sale of lots. What number are we going to be? I guess this is directed to to you, Bill. >> Um, what number are we looking at? Are

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we adding the 14 to the 106? >> It's already It's already in there. >> It's already in the 106, >> right? That's the the line's just showing how much this year is put into it. >> Okay. So all we have to be interested in is the 106, >> right?

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>> Okay. And then the the top one, the balance perpetual care principle, all we're interested in is a 241 >> basically. Yeah, >> cuz everything's added into that, right? >> Okay. What's the um letter I? Expenditure site

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improvements. So that be your capital line item. >> Oh, that's good till November. It says 10,000. >> Well, well, that was the Fish Street wall, right? So that's used. >> That's used already.

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>> Yep. >> So the only numbers we have to be interested is the 106 and the 241. >> The 241 is the principal. So we would need an interest line from that. Yeah, but we don't have I don't see where the interest is there.

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>> Well, we we're not going to spend perpetual care for the back lot. We'll we'll spend out of the 106 of the sale of lots. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But how much of the how much interest do you think there is

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of the 241? >> Wasn't it like 1,700? Last time I checked, was it 1700? >> 1700. It wasn't a lot. Sure. I don't have that number, >> but that was that's that was every that was every quarter. >> Yeah, we were we were about 14K. We paid

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a few things and uh but we paid for the stone straightening out of that. So, we're probably down uh yeah, probably below 10K, but >> I have to rejust the numbers. >> So, is about 10k. So, >> I can work with Bill on this to get the

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uh final perpetual care we have to spend. I just want to make sure we're not too low this year. And if he doesn't if next year there really isn't that many people being buried, we don't have much added to it.

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>> Right. Right. >> Okay. I just want to be careful that, >> you know, >> Yeah. >> I think maybe 40,000 we should have in there at all times or 50, one or the other. >> Right. But at the same time, we need to expand. We're running out of

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>> That's why I asked 20 left. >> That's why I asked you if it was going to be done this year or next year. >> Oh, we got to do it this year. >> We got to do half this year. And >> yeah, I I I'd be fine to do a a motion or just a verbal to to go ahead for up to 45K.

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>> And that's this is our our our last big >> Yeah. >> I mean, we right >> Fish Street with some money, South Cemetery. Yeah. I mean, there are other projects we'd like to do, but we probably have to go >> You're going to have to slow down. >> Yeah. Um, so,

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>> so we have 106 in the sale of lots now, and you want to use 45 of that, >> right? I'd like I'd like to say up to >> up to. >> So, then that would leave 51,000 in there. >> Is that what I'm >> Is that Sounds right?

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>> We don't have anything else coming out of that now? >> No. >> That you could think of. We just have Well, we do have We do have the one the one for U Lemus the monument for the the work that they did. $3,500. That's it. And that's the only thing I have. That's it.

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>> And the SIM software. Yeah. >> So about five a little over 5K 6K. 6K left. >> So 45 We had 40,000 left in there. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. And by then, you haven't

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collected any money of the 17? >> Uh, well, a little bit. Bill and I were talking about that today. Yeah. Remember the last meeting we had, you guys had asked me to reach out to some people and I did. I reached out and a bunch of people pitch pitched in a little bit, you know, several people. >> But the ones for the new place, we

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haven't gotten any money from them. >> Well, no, that's that that's folder. Yeah, I did get a little bit from some people. Not a lot, but enough to to secure there. How many of the 17? >> Uh, I don't know. Maybe I don't What was I talking about? >> It's only like two or three. >> Yeah, only a few. >> Okay.

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>> But like I said, I just showed Mike that folder. It's in here. It's like 17 people. >> Okay. >> So, and they're ready. They're they're all ready. You know, >> they're all they're ready to go. >> So, there's probably about 12 left if you go up to a,000 between next. >> And plus, you're going to raise the rates. So,

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>> that's what I'm thinking about. >> So, you're going to you're going to be generating some money now. And >> Okay. >> Yeah. I think I think we're good. And then, you know, we kind of draw a line and just uh >> Yeah. >> odds and ends that we need until we we

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bring back u >> So, this is good. When I go out the bid, I have to identify the the funding source. So, now I have it. So, >> yeah. Okay. >> Right. If I don't have a source, they don't go a bit. >> Right. Right. Right. So, I would make I would >> have to make sure there's a source.

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>> I didn't know that either. Now, how many people what type of when you go out to bed? Just out of curiosity, is it the it's not the treat people. What is it? What license do they have to to do all

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this? They have to do everything. Um well as a we'll have >> yeah we'll have something in the in the contract saying what type of contractor we're looking for what how much experience they have and you know earth

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moving that kind of stuff that >> so it wouldn't be anyone like lake view just as an example or flat it wouldn't be the three people it would be >> probably not construction it'd be more of a construction company that >> okay >> somebody maybe that does site work right

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or road building something a company that does that type of work. >> Okay. I make a motion we go up to 45,000 to use for the expanding of the back lot. >> I second the motion.

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>> All in favor? >> I So I'll reach out to Delisi and have him finish this up and get it going. Get it opened. >> Yeah. >> To be um to be taken from the uh sale of

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lots. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. From the 106. Yep. No more than 45. >> Okay. So that covers uh our expansion and our budget and expenditures review.

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And uh want to talk about lot pricing. >> I I did get a >> So Mike just um on the TPW and super updates. Um

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>> I don't remember where we were the last time with our seasonal helpers. So, we had Zach Shawn, we hired him and then he he left. >> Then we interviewed three people and we liked all three. Um, the select board

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ratified two of them. One of them said no, the other one said no. So, both said no. And then one of them came back and said yes. So, we're in the process of hiring him. And in the meantime, one of the guys we had last year, uh, Peter, he

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called Todd and said, "Do you have a spot? I want to come back." So, we have Peter back already. And then we're in the process of hiring Michael. >> Perfect. >> Does he have to go through the board, too, Peter? Because he's here last time. >> He already did. >> Oh, he already did. >> Yep. We snuck that in.

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>> Yeah. >> He started the the day after. >> Yeah. >> Oh, good. >> So, he was your part-time worker last year? >> Yes. Yep. I had him for a couple years. Yeah. Good kid. Yeah. >> Right. >> And the new person is >> the new person is Mike Junior. >> Junior.

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>> Yeah. >> So I maybe you know he's just going back and forth with Julie right now and good stuff. Y >> So it should be pretty soon. >> We're already in Jul we're going to be in July in here. You know I'm so

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>> it's a hard process. I get it. But I'm supposed to have these kids or I'm supposed to have these men April 1st. I had Xan for two weeks and then he was gone. And >> then the process now here we are. We're going into July, you know. >> So if they starting now, can you

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increase their um hours because we didn't start? >> No, you have to stay at 19 because if you go over 19 then the town has to do health insurance and stuff like that. So they have to stay at 19 which they which is fine. They they work hard. He work hard. Well, I'll find out about Mike Junior.

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>> That's right. >> I'm sure he'll be fine. >> The other thing is we had the >> the prisoners in today. >> Yeah, we had the prisoners. I had the prisoners. They came in today. Um we we have a good relationship with the uh the

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lady that's in charge down there. And uh she gave us a couple days. I got them tomorrow. I had them today, tomorrow. I had him three times in, you know, cuz I I was begging them, you know, I I got nobody. I need help. And like Bill was saying, this is this is this is the

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busiest spring that I've ever had with burials, selling lots, meeting families, the busiest. And I've been kind of by myself. So just getting them to help us. >> Good to have the help. >> And Dave just said just and that's how much we're working. He just said, you

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know, the cemeteries look good. Yeah. The grass it grows quick. And I I you know, trying to stay on it. And we had a um a young man volunteer last year for a few hours a week. >> Jasper.

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>> Yeah. And he's coming back. Yeah. Next week. >> Okay. Great. >> So now you have three people. >> Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for him. And uh he's just a volunteer, but he's a good kid. He's I think he's still in high school, >> I think. So >> Yep. And uh you know, it's good. That's good.

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>> Mhm. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Do you want to do this? Uh, do you want to make out this bill now before we do you guys want to do this now since we're still on the DPW? It's the uh it's the bill for the um lemons the monument for doing in the installation of the

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headstones and stuff like that. >> I saw that. >> I got a question about that. It's getting populated. >> I did make a mistake. >> Oh, I did make a mistake >> cuz I >> Yeah, >> I went over there to I went to all three sites today before I came here. >> Yep. >> And the sign is up for this. But the

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middle one, did you >> That's what I was just what I was just explaining. Yeah, I made I made a mistake and uh >> I I I told Don about it and I was gonna tell Mike, but you were at work, but I didn't get a chance to talk to you about it. >> So, I ended up putting Levi Jr., which

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is from the first first wife at Scanner. And uh so we have a uh I show I I have a I had a nice 10x10 post. It's a it's about 4 and 1/2 ft high. It's pretty heavy. It's, you know, 10 x 10 square. It's got a nice point at the top. And we

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can use I already talked to Bobby and that's what that's what is in here. It reflects that. He's going to clean it and he's going to engrave that his name, Levi Jr., his death date and his age on that. And I'm going to install that myself. I'll put that in. And uh

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>> I have a question because you said you're going to engrave it. >> Is it going to be hard to read because the stone is white? >> No, he'll probably put black in it to to make it to make it stand right out. Mhm. >> So, is it going to go over this one here? >> No, it's going to go to the left. It's going to go right next to his mother, Anna. So, uh,

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>> is there a way of cleaning this up? So, >> yeah, I I already I'm I'm on the processor today. I I I grinded it that down today. I went over there this morning, took the name off, >> right? >> Cuz I needed Bobby Bobby has special paint that covers that, but I didn't have any masking tape and I want to do a good job. So Monday when I go over there

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to cut the grass and clean up, I'm going to bring the masking tape and in and the paint and touch that up nice and square so it looks perfect. >> Good. >> So why couldn't you just spray the whole stone or the whole thing or the whole >> Well, you don't you don't want to you don't want to spray the other names and stuff. You just want to spray. >> No, I'm just talking about the backdrop,

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not the names. I I understand what you're saying now. >> What do you mean? What do you mean? >> Actually, you know the part that looks like it's >> the gold. >> No, it looks like it's brushed. It looks like >> Yeah, I put That's what I did. I brushed it. But you got to put a couple coats on and then but I didn't have any masking tape so I couldn't make it look square,

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you know. >> Well, that blended in with the >> Yeah, after weld after that was my only question. >> So, I made a mistake. I I don't know how many times I looked at this paperwork and and I didn't notice it. Yeah, you can see it right there. Yeah, I didn't notice it. >> I already saw it. >> Bobby and I were standing there when we

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put it in and I'm looking at it and I'm looking at Hannah, the first wife, and I'm saying, "Wait a minute. How did I miss this? Wait a minute. He his first wife. When you when you have a son for the first when if I had a son I would made him make him Todd Junior. Imagine

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that. Todd Jun. So Todd Junior. So Levi, he wouldn't do that with his second wife, you know. And then I then I went back and I said to Bobby, I says, "Bobby, I don't think that's right." He says, "What do you mean?" And he says, "I think I think I made a mistake."

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So, I went back in my paperwork and I looked at all my stuff and and come to find out he was he was Hannah's boy, not Betsy. >> So, I said, "Bobby, how can I fix this without costing any money?" He said, "Tod, I just grind it down. I got the paint that happens all the time." I

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said, "Okay." So, he gave me the He gave me the paint. I grind it down. I did it. I I I got a I got a like I said, I got a nice marble marker. It's 10 x10. Nice point on it. It's going to clean it all up nice. I'll send you a picture of it. Dave, >> you you mentioned before and I don't

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remember. There's a marker here. >> That's correct. That's the center of that grave right there. That's correct. >> Center of the grave. >> The center of that grave. >> Okay. >> That's right. >> Okay. >> And then you got a piece missing from the front. >> Yeah. That uh Rich McGrath has that. I

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got to call him and find out where where he's when he's ready to >> where the flag is. >> Right. That Richard has that doesn't have that one. Richard did that one. >> Okay. Gotcha. So, I'm just wait. >> Yeah. So, there's a little bit of touch-up work. Next week, I'm going to finish it

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all and then hopefully we can get a hold of Rich McGrath and the historical society and we can make a nice plaque. I want to make a nice sign, a metal sign, you know, saying who it who he is and what what what he did and and you know, thank you guys, Commission, Historical

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Society, Amanda, the construction, you know, you know, on the on the bottom the bottom end. That sounds >> And that's the bill you just passed over. >> Yes. So, I did make a I did make a big mistake. I did. I I admit it. >> We're covering it up. >> I'm covering it up.

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>> Remember, I took a picture of it. >> So, what's the price on that bill? >> It's all It's right here. I'm sorry. >> I wonder if I can on my phone. >> Yeah. >> Let me see. >> So, that's right there. >> 3500. >> Yeah. So, it it was allocated to 300,

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but what he's going to do is now he's going to take this name >> and he's going to clean that stone right there that and then he's going to he's going to engrave that. He's going to sand >> sand blast name in there and then he's going to paint it black and then I'll put the stone in myself. He doesn't have to do that.

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>> And that's it's he just charges 500 uh 250 I think it was >> 250 monument uh lettering for the Levi Goodrich. >> Okay. >> 250. Yeah. Oh, 250 in there. >> Yeah. 250. I thought it was 500. It's 250. Okay, good. >> Sorry, I didn't mean to do that.

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>> And that's the part that's coming off the 45 U 51,000 that's left after sale of lots. >> Yeah. Right. This >> Yep. So, you're still in good shape.

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>> I make a motion we approve the 3500 for Lemonster Monument. >> I second the motion. >> All in favor? I I forgot. Do I have to sign that? >> So, I can print this. >> All in favor, please. Right. >> Yes. >> Okay.

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>> If you can if we can print it here. I'm not sure. I have a copy of the invoice payment approval form. >> Oh, okay. >> So, I can ask them if we can print. >> Well, I got copies. >> Oh, you do? >> I brought my copy this time. >> Perfect.

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>> Because I knew this was going to happen. Yeah. Okay. >> Cuz I remember last time we would >> Which one do we sign? >> That one. >> This one. >> That one there. >> So, it's okay. So, I got a call from

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somebody today >> and they said, "Todd, you did a great job over at the cemeter over at Cherry Hill, you know, and he gave me a he gave me a little he gave me a little rundown on the on the cemetery over there." It's it's actually

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not Cherry Hill, it's Clover Hill. >> Cherry Hill is on the other side. >> Which way? >> He told me street. Yeah, >> street. He told me that was that's Clover Hill. Uh, >> I says, "Well, what about Cherry Hill down on the bottom?" He said, he said, "A cross the street was Cherry Hill." I

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says, "Back," he says, "Back then, of course, it was all farms." >> He said, "This this was Clover Hill right here." And I wow, I thought it was always Cherry Hill. >> So much history, it's unbelievable. >> I think we would do it out of um 8115

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sale 115 >> sale. That'll bring it down to 40. Let me see. 51. It'll bring it down to 48,000 when we're done. >> 48,000. >> When we're done after that,

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>> y >> he does his bids and stuff. >> Right. >> Then that's the last bill I got, Dave. That's the last one. So, so that motion was really just for the change of cost because we had motion for the 30 20

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>> 30 >> 30 3,000 220. >> Oh, you did? >> Yeah, we had done that. So, so that but that's good. That covers >> a new number inside here. >> Looks good though, Dave. >> Signatures. >> The walls. >> That's all you need is too.

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>> The walls, Dave, everything look good over there. The walls. See the black chain? >> It looks great. >> Doesn't that black chain look nice? It makes it, you know, I just got to touch it up with some black paint. You know, it'll be it'll be it'll be nice. And then I just go sign, right? >> Yeah. >> Then you can

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>> And then I can bring Yeah. I can bring it Monday morning. >> Yeah. It goes with that. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Also, just so you know, you remember remember that body that I we found uh in the cell cemetery? This also he's also going to take care

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of this also. That's included in this price. I have a I had a flush marker, an old flush marker. He's going to use a flush marker. Remember the body I found? The name was Merrill in the South Cemetery. And Greg had Mr. Porter had sold four

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lots. One, two, three, four. And he had dug three graves. And then when he went to go bury the one of the other people, >> there was so many. >> There was a lady in there from the 1800s. And and you guys had said, "We got to mark that." So I what I did was I took an old marker to you know 4 in. I

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gave it to Bobby and he's I we know what the girl's name is and her name is uh man I'll tell you Nancy Denine. Den n i e uh Nancy and Denine. And she was 69

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years old. She was buried in 1864. So that's the body that Greg found. So we're going to use that to mark her. Okay. Okay. So, it's a flush marker. So, we took care of that. >> Mr. Merrell, the last one happened to pass and I just buried him early uh early in the spring and I put him behind

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the headstone. Remember, we had talked about that. So, when I hired the guy to do the the ground penetrating radar, so I made sure that that's that was all set. There was nothing there and there was nothing there. So, it worked out. Everything worked out good. And uh so in in his engraving and all that, I'll I'll

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install it, but he's going to he's going to put the name there. And he and that's included in this price. Okay. >> So that's all set. >> Perfect. >> Another problem. Done. >> All right. >> While you're in that cemetery, north south cemetery, we don't have any water

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over there, right? >> No, I already ran out July 4th, right? July 4th. >> Same one. Same one at the uh north in the up by when you come in the first on the right. >> That's >> the first one. Not not the one you go to down below. The first one on the right when you come in the main entrance on the right

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>> that's empty too. >> Yeah, it's empty. That one that one in the south always empty out July 4th. Follow it every year. >> Well, that we're still in drought conditions, believe it or not. >> Yeah, I've never lost the water in the bottom or the one in the old section,

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but the south and valley all the time. >> Okay. But we had talked about when he gets a a pumper truck to come in to do some sewer uh not sewer but drainage work. Hopefully we can get them over there to suck out the ground down there and stuff and >> maybe work a little better.

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>> Yeah. Okay. Okay. And Okay. So, we can get on um all set now. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Great. Thank you very much. Yep. And um just before we get into talking about

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the sale, I did get a call uh from the Ascos that have two lots of North Cemetery and the husband's a veteran. So they're deciding to uh go probably to a veteran ceremon cemetery.

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>> Oh. and and so they'd like to return the lots and I don't know if they can um one thought could they just can can you sell your lot yourself to someone else or do you do we have to return it to the

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>> they sell it back to us >> sell it back to the town >> okay I guess kind of so I mean unless >> we've been giving we've been given the same price that we sold >> unless they want it depends right >> if they want to give it to another family member Then we then we just have to change the name,

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>> you know. >> Yeah. But they can't sell to someone else. No. Okay. So, they sell we we we would >> buy it back. >> Buy it back. Right. >> Right. So, the commission would have to decide to, you know, the same price they paid

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for it or do we hold back some of the perpetual care? >> What did you pay for it? >> Well, it more depends on when, right? Because we had one situation. They owned it for 25 years and they want to sell it back. So, Yeah, we we've been maintaining it for >> So we took we took we took the perpetual

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care and we we didn't give any of that money perpetual care back. We gave him back the sale of the law the burial right money but not the perpetual care money because it was 20 something years. >> Then we had another one said well I think I think Nancy I think Nancy

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bought that um well that was early on. I think it was like 1,200, not the 8. >> Yeah. So maybe >> I mean that's up to you. If you guys want to give her a full price back, that's fine. We're going to turn around and make money on it anyways. I think we can do it's up to you if you guys want. >> I think we can give her the show. >> Okay. Yeah.

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>> Ask her for a letter cemetery. >> Ask her for to send us a email. You >> send an email. >> Someone a letter saying. >> Is it in the north cemetery? >> It's in North 20 years. Yeah. And then and then then you know I'm not giving you back. Well, not us, but we

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>> Okay. So, we would we would be fine to to do this full price and Well, >> uh oh, we just lost our >> do our new >> That's after 45 minutes. >> I'm still there. >> I >> Nobody else.

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>> Well, they had a nice spot, too. They the last almost positive they were the last one in line right next to the flag pole. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I'd be interested, but I'm not go at the front of the line, but when you know, give people time to think about it.

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>> Is that where is near the flag pole? >> Yeah, I think I think the last one in line to >> No, no, they're right on top. Right next to the right next to the >> the flag pole, >> but it has to go back. >> But yeah, he's a veteran. You know what I mean? >> Probably once you >> then you can pass the challenge to buy

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it. >> Yeah. Yeah, that would be it. We'll give it a month to out there in the free market. How do how does that work in real estate? So, it's not >> I haven't do anything free. >> It's not a real market. >> Even though they say it's a deed. >> It's not a real deed. Cuz real deed

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have it right. >> I tell when I sell a lot, I tell them I says, "This is I said, "This is a deed. Put it with your house deed." >> Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We don't want to lose that. >> Yeah, that's a good point. >> Yeah. So, you know, yeah, it is.

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>> Of course, we have copies. I have a copy. The town has a copy. It's up in the wild. You know, it's everywhere, you know. >> But, >> okay, let's get going. >> So, I think our last item was to talk about raising the uh lot fees. Mhm.

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>> Uh and you had done research and all and uh I I just plugged in some numbers into uh co-pilot to say how how you would do this and um you know a couple options. We could we

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could keep the remainder of the lots in the current cemeteries at the price they are and just target the backlog expansion. Um, so that was that was one item

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>> uh for the back lot expansion from for a motion. We could uh honor the 800 uh but establish a prep fee say of $250 for each of the two lots sold um applicable only to individuals currently

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want. >> I would just raise the price for every cemetery. >> We're not just going to do north. >> Yeah. We don't have nothing left in the south. So, we don't have >> Oh, you have nothing left in the south. >> I got six six. >> Well, yeah. I mean, again, we have we

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have uh two, four, six. We have six lots left on the last road. Mhm. >> Right. For anybody. But yes, there are there are a couple there's probably 30 or so in in in the area. But again, we're leaving those for the people that

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that have family that's died. You know what I mean? >> And there only one or two maybe there's only maybe like maybe one section or two sections that have two lots, but they're all one section. So, we're kind of leaving that for someone like one of the proctors. say all the properties are all

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filled and and we got we got one that's three rows over that's one lot and he wants to be buried in the south with his family. >> Yes, we I want to leave that alone. But the six on the bottom, we'll sell those. We'll sell those the rest rest of them and then when we get into the north, the

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same thing. The 1800s, there's a lot of areas that have one or two here and there. I don't I don't want to sell those. Leave those for the family that when they come in and I sell them. I sell them. People want to be close to their family, so you leave that. >> You're selling them at a different price.

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>> No, same same price. That's what I'm saying. Same price. The price should be the same. >> I agree. I agree. Yeah. You're going to raise the price above the board. Just do it. Everybody can't >> Yeah. You don't want to start messing around with stuff like that. >> And fish tree is just >> That's it. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's

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>> okay. >> So yeah, I would I would raise it like >> right now we're at what 800. >> So just straight We'll raise the price. >> Okay. All three all three things price of the lot, the opening fee for the full burial, and the opening fee for a cremation. And then if you guys decide

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to do something with the uh the niche wall, that's up to you. >> Okay. So, right now, >> so right now, yeah, >> let's put the prices that we are now. >> So, think about the prices that we're getting now. So, for $800 for one lot,

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that includes one burial plus 10 cremations, >> correct? So most cemeteries, I don't think they do it that way. I mean, that's a lot of people fitting in a lot. So I'm thinking that $800 is a steal for that for the number

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of I mean granted probably we don't have 10 people in cremation. >> No, the most I have I have one lady with four her for she the full bodies down. The most I have out of 10 cremations is four. She's got four of her kids on top. That's the most I got. I got a lot that

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have three and there's tons that have two, but matter of fact, I think St. St. Leo's and St. Cecilia is you're only allowed two cremations per full body lot. So, we allow 10, but we only have I mean, like I said, >> so four four is our max right now. >> Right now, max that's four. That's it,

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you know. But as time goes on, I'm sure it'll I'm sure it'll fill in. >> So, we have 800 right now. I don't know how long ago we I think it's been 800 for >> uh it was uh 600 wasn't it 600 when you

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came on board ago 3 years ago >> you bumped it up a little bit. >> Yeah. >> So for instance graten is$,750 for a plot >> one plot >> and that's one full burial and two cremations. >> Right. Um,

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I think that we definitely need to be >> we're talking about per grave here though, >> right? >> And we have to sell two at a time. >> We don't have to, but we have been, right? >> Unless someone's single >> and they don't have another. >> So, what I've been doing is, you know,

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from past years and past commissions, I I've always tried to sell two lots, right? >> And when the family says, "Well, we don't really need two lots." you know, and I try to explain to them, you know, if if you have two lots, you know, mother and father, and then you have children, you know, then the next thing you know, they're buying three and four

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lots because now they're thinking of their kids. So, the the two lot minimum is still pretty good because, >> right, >> the only time I I only do one lot for you guys is when it's kind of a hardship, you know, there's only one person in the family, you know, something's going on. It's this they're

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all by themselves, you know. Okay. They don't have a lot of money, you know. Then I I'll >> Well, if there's a if there's a person that's not married. >> Yep. >> Right. It doesn't Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> they don't have a lot of money, you know. So, >> that would be just a one grave. >> One grave.

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>> Okay. >> But that's very that's very that doesn't happen all the time. every once in a while, but you know that somebody will be adding. >> So, right now when we do 800, you've been collecting 1,600 cuz there's two graves.

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>> Well, no. If I if I sell just one lot, it's 800 and I collect that 800. >> But you've been selling two at a time, >> right? Exact. So, I get the 60. Correct. That's correct. Yes. >> So, I think >> I think a minimum should be at least a,000. >> I I would think higher. >> I would I would think

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>> I would take 1,200 bucks. >> 1,200. Yeah, I had 11, but 1,200's fine, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I said minimum. So, >> I think I might I may have said something at the last meeting. Uh, you

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know, I would say 500 for a full body and 300 for a cremation. >> That's And still do the first do remember like I was telling you, still do the first one free, right? You know, I know it's people, you know, there's some people out there say, "Ah, no, you can't give them free." But you know what? It's still Lunberg. It's still

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family, you know, >> there's only 13,000 people here, you know, first one's free, whether it's cremation or full body. >> And then and then as time goes on, you know, then maybe you guys can raise it up a little higher. I mean, you get you're way below everybody else. >> So if there's a mother and father passed

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away in a car accident, you only collect the 800. First one's free. >> So if they if they don't Well, the first Well, the first one would be free. So, if they if they already own a law for $800 and they're killed in a car accident and the mother wants they both want to be cremated, well, the whatever it is, if the first one's free and then

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the second one would be $300. >> Well, 100 glory. Now, it's >> Yeah. So, that that's that's that's >> that's00 cuz your first burial is >> not to sell the lot. It's to dig the >> You paid Yeah. And then the second

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burial is the 500 or 300 for cremation >> if you go up. Yeah. Exactly. So, so when I sell a lot, so someone buys two lots, somebody's passed away. So, that lot, they just paid $1,600 and that body is going in for free cuz it's the first one. >> Right. Right.

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>> Right. So, I It's totally up to you guys if you want to keep that keep that >> free. We should be in par with everyone else. >> Does everyone else You've been calling around. Do they do the first one free? >> I think every place is different. Yeah,

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every place is different, but you you definitely want to get your numbers up higher, >> but they do charge. I mean, >> yeah. >> So, what you're saying is that >> it would be 1,600 for two grades plus the first one's free, but the second one

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to dig would be another >> 500. 500 >> would be 500, right? >> So, be 2100, >> but you're going to raise the rates on the 1800. So, if you say like Donna said 1,200. So, >> 1,200 that's 2400 now. So now it's 2,400

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for two lots, right? First one's free. And if it's a full body, the second one it's 500 instead of instead of 200. If it's a cremation, it's 300. Those are pretty decent numbers. Those aren't really >> right. So now you're at 2,900 for two lots, say.

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>> Yeah, >> but the first one's free. >> First one's free. I would stay with that unless you want to go a little higher on the numbers. >> Yeah, Don is right. 1,700. I mean, you have they're paying $17 $2,000 for just one lot. One lot. $2,000.

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>> The other thing to think about is this is now. Who knows what's going to happen two or three years from now. Maybe green um green barriers are going to be really big. Maybe then we make an adjustment for something then. I mean, we can always change things going forward. >> So, you're suggesting 1,200?

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>> Yes. >> Per per lot. Per lot. And are we going to change anything on the digging and Yeah, absolutely. Sure. >> I think we should just do it in one fell swoop. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> We should I think we should do it in one

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fell swoop. >> Yeah. >> Not peacemail it. Just say, "Okay, this is what we're going to do. And this is what we're going to do." >> What's the digging now? 500. >> Uh for a full body, it's only $200. >> 200 >> and a cremation's 100. You want to jack

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the full body up to 500 and jack the uh cremation up to 300. >> So the cremation is currently 100, correct? >> Yeah, >> I think that's reasonable. >> It's very reasonable compared to other towns. >> Cremation's 100. You wanted to go to three?

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>> Mhm. >> And the full body is 500. >> Well, it's 200 now. 500. Go to 500. Yeah. and the 800 you want to go to 12,200. >> Yeah. And you're still going to be way below everybody else.

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>> Okay. >> So the 500 for the full body that's for the digging. >> Yeah. >> And that's for both graves. Or you doing each one separately? >> Well, if if if like your scenario of two people got killed, the family would come in by two lots.

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>> If they're both full bodies, one would be free and the other one would be $500, but they just spent $2,400 on two lots. So, you know what I mean. >> Gotcha. >> Oh, and what was the 500 and 300 originally? >> 500's for full body.

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>> And what are we charging now? >> 200. >> 200. >> And the cremation is 100 right now when we want to raise it to 300. >> Okay. >> And that's pretty reasonable, Mike. Like I said, it's >> Now, where does that uh money go to?

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Well, we Well, as in it goes to the It goes to the burial rights and perpetual care. So, we'll have to we'll have to figure out. >> I thought the town got some Didn't the town get >> It goes to perpetual care and burial rights. So So, we'd have to figure that out. I mean, >> but the town doesn't get anything under

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their >> Well, it goes under It goes under the It goes under the perpetual care and which they get interest on >> which is still part of us, but I thought part of it went to the town. >> It does >> like their general fund, >> right? town. >> Well, the general >> right now 100 bucks, right? Burials,

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$3,800 for 38 burials. So, 100 bucks. >> They get a 100 for each person. >> What do they take that out of, Bill? Do they take it out of the perpetual care or the uh >> the burial rights? I believe >> burial rights. So, so when they take that $100 out, where's the f where's the $500 go for Saturday? That goes into the

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general fund. >> Yeah. So, I don't bet fees are really your guys to worry about because the money is going into the general fund, >> right? >> Oh, only $100 out of it. >> Oh, out of out of the current uh

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>> Yeah. >> out of the current 200, you get half a 100. >> But we're still losing because we're you're saying every time someone passes away, the first one's free. So, if a husband passes away, the wife's still

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alive. >> You're gonna bury him for free. >> The first one's free. That's the That's the way it's been for as long as I know. >> Okay. >> So, we only get 1,200 for that two plots. >> Okay. Well, why don't we why don't we first get the plot fee?

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>> Yep. >> Of 1,200 agreed to. >> Okay. Yep. >> Now, now currently at 800, we take 500 of that and put it into sale lots and 300 into perpetual care. So, if

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we go to,200. >> So, this >> Yeah, >> we have Yeah, we were talking about that. We're trying to figure out how much uh we'd have to break that up. Um, >> did I did I didn't bring it today? Yeah, if we if we said uh

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>> if we said uh >> so let's see 12. So >> if we if we do 800 it's five and three, right? 800 five and three. >> Yeah, that's 800. 56 that's 800. So five and three.

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So if it's 1,200 >> 750 12 four Oh, that would be in the equals. >> So would that be 750? >> So it doesn't all go into one account. You're splitting into two accounts. >> Perpetual care and and burial rights.

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Yeah. So we just got to figure out where the split is. >> He's got a sheet on that could tell us that. But >> we we can figure that out. That's that's not a big deal. >> Can't get in there right now. >> There we go. >> That's all right. We can we'll let you know what it is. It's >> I think I think

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>> Oh, you found it out. >> So, this would be uh >> 750. Yeah. >> Sale of lots and this would be uh actual care if you want to break it to

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to $50 or do 800 and 400. Um do we want a little more in the sale of lots? >> Well, I think we'd have to ask the town. I think we'll have to ask Mileen that. >> Oh, is that a rule of the >> I think there's going to be Yeah, I think there's going to be something that we're going to have to ask on it. What

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the split would be on, 1200 and Mileen would have to tell us that. >> Yeah, cuz right right now the 800 if we say uh 300 and 500, >> right? >> So, you got uh you know

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three three. >> So, that's what it'll probably be 750 and 450. Yeah. Okay. >> So that that would be the same proportion. >> Uh >> okay. So times two. So uh so so 24. >> So 2400

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total. >> What now? What do the numbers for the uh Thank you, Mike. >> Right. Oh, okay. >> So it' be 1,500. >> 1500. >> All right. There you go. >> And then 900.

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>> 15 and 9. Yep. >> And a perpetual care. We don't use, right? We just use the >> interest sale lots and the interest. >> So, you're getting 1,500 bucks in your account every two lots I sell, >> right?

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>> Instead of >> Well, not really because one,000. >> No, no, that's that's the burial. That's not That's not That's just buying the lots. You're going to get that 1,500 bucks. You're going to get that $1,500 in your sale your seal of watts account and then you're going to get

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if the if the like you said two people killed in a crash you're going to get an extra five uh $500 for a full body. First one's free. >> So >> Oh, you're talking about the digging part. That's what you're talking about. Oh >> yeah. >> So you're you're making money on that too.

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>> We're making significant money >> I hate to say it like that. You're making money on that too but Yeah. >> Right. Well, you're getting an extra 500 per set of lots >> and then the 900 goes into perpetual

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care. So, that's only going to come out as interest on that. >> 900 interest on 900. >> Yeah. And we're saying we probably can't um upset the ratio. >> Mhm. Probably not. >> No. >> So, uh we'll keep the ratio the same. >> Yeah.

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>> And that's good. And then the you want to do the other ones too which was the >> should we do this >> cremation and the full body. >> You want to do one at a time. >> Do you want to do this as a a motion to for the um watch?

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>> Just get it done. Yes. >> Just do the whole thing. >> But and then >> do it all together. That way it's it's easier on me because >> we don't know how you're splitting out the uh I >> I think you got it right, Mike. I think you got it right. >> Yeah, this this is right. Yeah. Uh but

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then for when we talk about the burial fees. >> Well, we don't know how much is going to the town. >> Well, no. >> Unless you just want to >> No, no, that the burial rights the $500 goes goes right to your account. The burial rights goes right to your account for burial. >> Okay.

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>> The Saturday the Saturday $500, which I think we should increase that also. >> Should that that goes into the general fund. I don't we don't even see that. But that's something I I've been telling Bill. I don't know why he doesn't get that money to to reimburse his his

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account right on his employee me. >> I don't understand why the town does that, but >> we can we can make a motion to do all the rate changes. >> Yeah, >> we can circle back on if if we have to the proportion of these that go

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>> because everybody a lot of people in my folder. >> Okay. >> I I told them I don't know what the prices are going to be yet. So, you know, everybody's kind of curious to know what we're going to do. So if you do that tonight, >> so what do we want to make it effective for? >> That's the first of the month.

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>> Well, we today is the 25th. Do you think we can do with that? Will that give Todd enough? >> Well, it's the fiscal year. I would actually time Dave. That's right. July 1st. >> 2027. >> Yep. >> It's the fiscal year. Start. >> So we have to advertise what you're

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saying. >> Yeah, that's a good idea. >> Will that give you enough time to call these people to courtesy? Yeah, cuz as we start doing the construction, I'm sure they'll all start. >> I told them I'd be talking to them when everything starts and gets going, you know, because I'm going to start off with the first people that talked about

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it and then and then let them let them pick their lot. Like I said, when I go to >> when I go to let them stop buying, I'm not going to let them just go anywhere. They got to we're going to start in one corner, right? >> And we're going to work our way out, you know. >> Okay. is my I guess my last I didn't

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realize about Saturdays. How do we get around that? We should we don't bury on Saturdays. >> Some some places don't bury some places offer like like Monday through Friday and then only on a Saturday. I don't I've seen some places not include

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Sundays, but it's entirely how you guys >> Yeah. Well, I don't think I don't think it's legal to vary on Sunday or holiday. Pretty sure that's that's a law. >> I'm questioning the Saturday. We're not getting anything. >> No. Well, that's that's what I was telling Bill. Well, you guys don't get

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nothing, but you get the sale of the burial. So, if it's a $500 dig, you're going to get that you're going to get that $500. >> We're going to Bill's going to get where Bill's not even going to get the $500 for the Saturday. It's going to go to the general fund, which I've been telling him for years.

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>> That money should go back to him to reimburse him to pay me. >> But the 500, we don't get that for the >> not the not the Saturday. Wait, wait a second. >> Yeah. >> If you bury on a Saturday, Okay. You bury on a Friday, your second

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burial, they pay 500. >> If you bury the second on a Saturday, they pay 500 plus 500. >> 500. Exactly. >> So that we do get the first 500. The other 500 as the Saturday fee goes into the general fund.

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>> Fine. >> Right. That's great. >> Oh, there's an extra 500 fee. I didn't >> Yeah. Yeah. That's an additional adder, >> right? Well, right now it's only Saturday. Right now it's only 200 if I can. >> So, in other words, if somebody is going to be buried, I'm sorry, I'm not sorry. >> So, because some places I've seen,

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>> you pay a premium to be buried on a Saturday, >> which is $500. We do >> which is $500. Whether it's a cremation or a full body, it's still $500. But we don't see that money. You guys don't see it. We don't see it. >> If you bury somebody in a Friday, >> y >> and it's a paid It's It's 5 It's still

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500. Well, not not No, no, it's Well, right now it's it's only 100 or 200 for the body. >> But but what I'm saying if you even if we increased it. >> Yeah, >> you guys will get the >> We see the first 500. >> I don't care about where the money's going. I'm saying does somebody have to pay? A lot of places charge more to be

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buried on a Saturday >> and and we >> because you guys are working overtime, >> right? We do. We charge extra $500. That's right. >> You do. Okay. So, it's a,000, >> right? Well, it'll be a 500 for the body and 500 for the Saturday service, right?

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And then, but we don't see it. But if it's Monday through Friday service, >> it's just it's just regular $500. >> Okay. No extra no extra money. No extra money. Just $5. >> Okay. So, it's 500 and that goes to you. >> It's 500 Monday through Friday and then Saturday it's a,000. >> That's correct. And and Monday through

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Friday that that burial rights $500 goes directly to you. >> I think we should make it clear. Maybe I wasn't. Okay. I didn't know that either. So, >> okay. >> That's a service fee. >> Yes. I mean, you should because most people you're working on Saturday and

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you guys are working on April or Friday. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we would want >> We can call a service fee. We can call it a Saturday fee. I don't >> It says It says on It says right on my my my paperwork my uh it says uh

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Saturday uh weekend service >> weekend work. Okay. >> So, what we're doing, we' be >> So, you got 2400, 500, and 300. >> The information would from be from one. >> Well, we're just going with one lot at the moment. So, 1,200 1,200 for the first grade, >> 1,200,

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500 for the full body, >> 500 and 300 >> and then 300 for the cremation. Now, times the 500 is that 500 and then 24,00. >> So, Saturday would be >> an additional 500. >> An additional 500. >> So, 500 and 500. >> Yeah. But that's just for Sarah then.

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>> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. >> That's after we raise the rates. >> So you're looking at 29. >> Yes. >> $3,200 >> the new one for the bar on the website in a in a manner other people because I've looked at how people

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>> you got to separate the cremation places make it very clear >> and I think we have to make it very clear. >> Yeah. See the Saturday $500 you we don't even we don't even see that money. I don't know who raises that rate. I don't know who who we stay away from that fee.

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We don't need to touch the fee for Saturday if it keep it 500, right? It doesn't do nothing for us, right? >> You know, um that would be the town to solic they may actually once they see this meeting, they may say >> we're going to raise it. We're going to raise it.

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>> So the lots we're going to do 1,200, >> the full body, we're going to do 500. Creation three. Yes. >> On any particular person, if there's no cremation, we're going to get 2900 >> cuz there's no cremation normally.

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Well, that Okay. Well, let's let's just focus on a motion. So, we want to set the price of a standard one grade lot >> at $1,200. >> Um, and and set the price of a full body

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burial at 500 and a cremation at 300. >> That's correct. >> Effective FY 2027, >> which includes >> July 1. Yeah. >> Which includes the niche wall. The niche wall would be $300 in the niche wall also. >> Okay. You got to keep it across the

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board. >> And where does the niche fall out? >> 100. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So now now that now when we go to sell a niche >> for a,000 instead of being they're still going to get that one free one, but now

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it's instead of $100 to the second one, it's going to be $300 now. >> So that a niche wall space is a,000, >> right? That's correct. >> Well, we're not going to raise that. >> Nope. Unless you want to. >> No. Okay.

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>> I think that's a good number, right? >> I think it's a good number. >> Okay. >> So, the niche wall, one person's free, you said? >> Still, that's still that one is free. Yeah. But now it's going to be 300 for the second one, Dave. >> Okay. >> Just just like the just like the in the ground, >> right?

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>> Okay. >> And what's that thousand you were just talking about? Uh >> that's the new wall space. >> Oh, the space. >> I think that >> and we're going to keep that the same. >> Yes. >> Okay. tomatoes. >> Daddy's >> you want to >> you like

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>> for the rules and regulations. You're going to change that and then pass it out to everybody so we have it cuz we're going to have to the let the town know, >> right? >> We have to put it in the rules and regulations, >> right? We got a lot to do on those rules

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and regulations before we we do anything on that yet. >> Well, they change this. So, we got >> Well, we got to change this first before July 1st for the uh >> just for the pricing. >> Pricing. Okay. >> Let's just do the pricing today, >> right? >> Yeah. So, we want to set the price of a

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one grave lot at 1,200. >> Mhm. >> Correct. >> We want to set the >> price of a full body burial at 500. >> Correct. >> A cremation at 300. >> Correct. >> And opening of the nishwall at 300.

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>> Correct. for the second, >> but it's still you should >> no charge for the first or cremation. >> Now, now you what you got to do now is you you have to you have to remember we're selling two lots at a time. So that's that information. Now you have to set it up for two lot minimum.

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>> Mhm. >> So now you got to add those double those numbers now. Well, well, the first number which is the which is the lots. So you have to double that now. >> So >> Right. >> So it's going to say two lot minimum. Now it's going to be $2,400. And then you know what I'm saying? >> Okay.

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>> Yeah. >> Because I'm going to continue to sell two at a time like I've been doing for 12 years. >> That's the that's the way it was that's the way it was handed to me and that's the way I tried to do everything. And the only the only changes we had were changes into the into the numbers, you

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know, and and not not crazy things get changed like you know. So um so that's good. That's that's what we want. You know, just >> make a motion that we change the figures for uh

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one one lot burial $1,200. Two lots $2,400. >> Full body $500. Cremation >> $300. Niche wall the first one's free. Second one is $300.

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>> Effective effective 71. effective 71. Sure. >> 26. >> There you go. >> Second the motion. >> All in favor? >> I I Okay, Mike. But but the people in here are we we're still going to be at we're still we're still at that you know there's a cut off. You know, like I

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said, there's like there's like 12 people that I still told him $800. Right. >> But he >> did you tell I thought you told him No. No. There's we remember I told Remember we had said >> 17 people. Well, out of the 17 is there's like eight eight or nine that

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still are at $800. But then I then I have a cut off date. There's a cut off that I I know which lady it is. And from there on in, I told I kept telling everybody, I don't know what the price is. I can't give you to you at $800. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, quick question. So, these people

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here, you're going to give them a heads up. How much of time are you going to allow them to decide? I mean, are you going to say we'll give you a week? I'm sure once they once we we get equipment in there, I'm sure the all these people are going to start calling and then I I know where the cut off is and I'll I'll

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start telling everybody to, you know, generate that money. >> So, of the 12, there's eight or nine. >> There's like eight. There's like >> eight of them that you >> I counted what 17 earlier. So, so there's eight that are at the $800. Not 12. >> They're at eight. But then after that,

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there's this nine of them, >> right? They're underneath. >> Okay. >> They're going to be at what you guys just voted on. All right. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Oh, I see what you're saying. But are they going to pay in advance? >> I hope so. Once they see the I'm sure they will. I mean, if they want to buy

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the lot, they got to they got to pay for it, you know. But I I tried to keep everybody in order. Y >> and I and I wanted to be fair, you know, >> and what we just told is for all the lots, no matter where >> everywhere else, everything else from here on in >> is going to be at at at the uh except

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for a couple. Except for a couple. Okay. You're saying the 800 you're you're giving them that but everything after that is going to be at the prices that we've made effective as >> correct. Exactly. >> Yeah. He's got eight people in the folder that >> I just wanted to understand. >> Yeah.

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>> This is a big folder >> and then the other nine people he's going to increase the >> buying lots and niche wall spaces loc. So this you know >> this whole thing right here. Look at look at them all. I got tons of them. These are people that that want to go. Look, there's another whole set right

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here. All these people right here. Look at this is all the burial rights agreement because they they just wanted to, you know, >> people should get these things out of the way. >> Yep. Okay. >> Is it temporar? >> Okay.

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>> I know. I know. >> All right. Are we good? Does that count then? >> I think so. I think so. Now I can Now I can start talking to people and tell them >> they can start writing checks. >> Okay. Great. Great. Very good. >> Okay. Any other items here? Our next

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meeting of July 30th at 6 so we can wrap up that SIMS uh and and any other loose ends. Can I get a motion to adjurnn? >> I make a motion we adjourn at uh 7:56

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p.m. >> I second the motion. 756. >> I should bring my daughter.