There we go. Thank you. Okay. I don't I don't know why it came in different this time. Odd. All right. This is the um December 12th, 2025 meeting of the Lunberg Open Space Committee. Uh this meeting is being held uh in accordance
with the requirements of open meeting law. It's being recorded and broadcast live over Lunberg public access channel and on Facebook live on the public a access Facebook page. and it'll be available um after tomorrow on the Lunberg Access YouTube channel. We are
holding this meeting on Zoom. Um the Zoom meeting number is 766 3167607. Uh it's 7:36. Sorry for the late start. Uh but I'd like to call this meeting to order. And I apologize guys, I couldn't see
anyone. Uh normally people pop in and we chat before the meeting. So, um, first order of business is the the minutes. And Colleen, you are correct. Those those were the old minutes that Eric originally sent. He sent out the minutes from last month. I don't know whether I looked at them. They look fine
to me. I don't know whether anybody else had a chance to look at them. >> Yeah, I looked at them. I >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, um, any comments or changes on them? No comments.
>> Okay. >> No. >> So, I'd accept a motion to approve the minutes as written. >> So, moved. >> Second. >> Thank you. Thank you. Oh, one order of business. Um, Chris, would you do me a favor and be the the recording clerk tonight >> for the minutes?
>> Yeah, >> sure. >> Okay. Um, Eric can't make it. He's he's on the road, so So you um you made the motion
Chris and then Anna, did you second? >> I second. Yep. >> Okay. So if you can just record that, Chris, that would be great. >> That was for minutes of November. >> Minutes from November 19th. >> The November 19th meeting. >> Okay.
I mean, I found a couple typos in it that I'll fix before I send it to the town clerk, but other than that, it it was really thorough. >> Yeah, that's all I saw. It was good. >> All right, good. All right, so the next order of business is to just um give you
guys an update on where we are with the draft bylaw mission statement u process. Um I've had a number of conversations with Jen Duffy from the Agricultural Commission. um she's not adverse to having one of
the members be from the ad commission, but she was worried that maybe she wouldn't get a taker. And if she didn't get a taker, how would we fill that seat? Um my my response was, well, you can fill the seat with anyone from the community that, you know, you designate
as representing the agricultural commission. Um so she's thinking about that. She hasn't brought it to her um committee yet. I don't think they've had a meeting since we met, but it's it's on the agenda to to talk about that. So, as it stands right now, we are still
proposing to make that change where we'll remove one uh community member position uh which is currently open. So, we're not removing anyone that's on the committee. Um and replace that with with a rep from the agricultural commission.
Um so one other thing and I think that goes along with um Miss Duff concern is um getting u quorum and it turns out that and this is something we learned through the process of uh the master
plan is that in our um charge which may be a bylaw or you know like an ad hoc um charge from the planning board we can actually call out what is a quorum in the committee. >> So by default is usually 50 you know you
know 50 plus%. Right. >> But you can actually say like in our committee of of seven I think it would be a total of seven we can say there are quorums three >> as >> so that's something that you know I kind of thought about it afterwards because
sometimes you know it's good to have these meetings regularly and discuss different things and keep the ball you know in the game but I can see how it's not always a top priority and you know life happens and we are a committee of other
committees for the most part. So I can see being, you know, so if we do that change, it'll help us meet quorum more often. Um, and I know that's something that was, and maybe team Wilmer can speak to it. That was something they did
for the master planning. >> Uh, yeah, absolutely. Um, it was because the the planning board got to dictate. uh we didn't have any language around uh quorum so we got to actually dictate it
and uh my understanding is that it's worked very well for the master plan steering committee um I unfortunately wasn't able to make it to tonight's meeting but because like they were still able to get five people still able to
get a meeting going um yeah it's it's worth considering it's it's been very helpful >> okay so they're they're meeting Tonight, Tim. >> Um, the master plan steering committee had a meeting at 6:00 that I was unable to get to. >> Okay. So, Jen Jen is on that as well.
Jen Duffy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, she was >> Kim. >> Excuse me. >> It's uh Kim Duffy. >> Oh, Kim Duffy. I'm sorry. I got all my Jennifers mixed up. Okay. Kim Duffy. Um, >> that is a Kim and that is a Jennifer.
>> Yes. >> They're sisters. >> Yes. So, I I've been Who's on the agricultural committee? That's Jennifer. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. She's not on the on this. She told me she was on the master plan committee as well.
>> Oh, I don't know. >> Okay. >> She could be. I I don't know. It might be, but I just want to say that is a Jim, a Jennifer, and a Chem. >> Yeah. So, Jennifer is the one I've been corresponding with. >> Okay. Yeah. >> It's agricultural. But then she mentioned because I had sent our
proposal out to the um agricultural committee and to the um oh she's on the bylaw committee. >> That's what it is. Mass. >> That is what it is. She's >> she's on the bylaw committee. Okay. So that's the that's the other committee
that's um gotten the information from us about the proposed changes. I also sent it on to um another Jennifer uh our town manager. Jennifer and she and I have been corresponding. Actually, I just got an email from her just yesterday
um suggesting that what we should do is that she and I and the chair of the select board might want to sit down and just talk about the proposed bylaw and then um I also recommended that maybe it' be good to have a meeting with town
council. So, I've got that coming up on the list as well. And I can bring up the quorum idea if it's in our bylaw with Adam and see what see what Adam thinks about that. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> So, that's kind of where we are right
now. We're, you know, waiting to get a couple of meetings together and get some feedback from uh both the bylaw committee and from the agricultural uh commission. >> No, that's great. I think that's that's good progress. Thank you, Mike, for
leading that. Yeah, sure. >> I'm hoping to get most of this done before Christmas. We'll see. >> Your ambition guy. >> Well, Adam's going to be in town again before sometime in December. They don't know what date yet. So, I'll I'll get on his calendar over at the library.
>> Right. It's a It's a nice way to do these meetings with town council. So it alleviates some of the burden to having to go through everything through the town manager, you know, just I have found in various modes those meetings
are very helpful for volunteers. >> Yeah, I've met with him several times because of things we had before this committee. So yeah, he's always been very helpful. >> Yeah. Matter >> of fact, that's how we wound up doing the u the work on the on the Lake Shirley parcel, the title work was
through Adam. Yeah. So that's about it for the draft bylaw and mission statement uh process as it stands right now. Um do we have any reports from other boards planning or um conservation >> or parks?
>> Conservation has no >> parks. >> Yeah, nothing for conservation. >> Okay. >> Um nothing for parks. There's a meeting next week. Um but I actually am not going to be able to attend. >> Okay. Anything
new from Planning? >> Still sorry about that. Um, no. Uh, nothing to report from planning board. Our next meeting is uh next Monday. >> Okay. >> All right. And Chris, just so you know,
Mary Mary asked me if I would come in at some point in January or February to talk to conservation about Riverfront area. >> Okay, great. Great. >> So do a do a little short course on riverfront. >> That'd be that'd be awesome. Yeah.
>> Okay. Um I I haven't heard anything else. The item number number five, I guess I keep getting my numbers wrong. Item number five is other items not anticipated there. I haven't had anything else come up. Um, has anyone else
had anything come up for this committee? >> No. One thing I'll I'll tie back to it. It's not come up that I just thought of. The select board is reviewing their bylaws, which is their policies and procedures, which is where the place
where it handles communication to other boards. >> Yes. Um, so you know, maybe it's a good time to poke them and ask them to properly update that section that deals with notifications. >> That's that's one of the things that
Jennifer and I have been talking about. And she actually she sent me I she I don't send me the current one or their draft. Um, but I'm I'm advocating for us to become part of that uh notification process for uh chapter 61 lands.
>> Right. Right. even if it's internally. Um, >> correct. >> Right. And then and they had other things there they're not doing like notifying a nonprofit who might be interested. So >> yeah, I noticed that the land trust or somebody I don't think they've ever done that.
>> I I they might have done it when they purchased the lane property because uh North Country they did buy a a parcel there at that time. >> North County did. Yeah. >> Yeah. And um and it's a it's a piece of land that it's not accessible, but
Darren Massie allows people to use his property to get to it. So it's um it it adds to the continue open space on that area of town, which is nice. >> Okay. The trail continuation. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Good.
>> Yeah. So, okay, that's great that you're on top of >> Yeah, it's it's on my list. >> Perfect. >> One of the items I want to talk to her about. Okay. Um, I'm going to look again at our participants. I don't know that we have any non-member citizens on. We do not. Um,
so I don't know that we're going to have any citizen comments this evening. Um, and it just brings us very quickly to our meeting schedule coming up uh 14th of January and 11th of February. And so I guess I'll ask one more time.
You know, this is very quick, which is good, I guess. Um, is there anything else that committee members want to discuss before we um look for a motion to adjurnn? >> No. So, I'll take the pleasure of making
a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll second. >> Short and sweet. Okay, we'll do we'll do a roll call. So, Tim, I got you on the screen. >> Yeah. Uh, I >> Colleen, I uh Chris, >> hi. Anna
>> I >> and the chair votes I. And I just realized I should have done that for the minutes as well. So let's go let's backtrack and just do that for the minutes. We had a um first and a second for the minutes approval. So we'll go kind of in reverse
here. Colleen >> I. >> Chris >> I. >> Anna >> I. >> Tim >> I. >> And the chair votes I. Thank you very much. I sorry I forgot that before. So, now we're on the record of having done a roll call vote for both items.
>> Thank you again all for coming and sorry for the delay in getting you on board here. >> That's great. And Mike, thank you so much for the work you're doing off offline with all these things going on. Thank you. >> Yeah, you bet. >> Absolutely. >> Happy holidays everybody.
>> Yes. Happy holidays to everybody. >> Take care. >> All right. Good night. >> Good night.