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How do I stop recording? >> He said he's off Thursday through Monday. Yeah, he'll be back Tuesday. >> Good evening. This is the uh Wednesday, July 22nd meeting of the Lunberg Park Commission. Uh, in accordance with requirements for open meeting law, please be advised this meeting is being

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recorded and will be broadcasted over Lunberg public access uh, channel and uploaded to the Lunberg uh, channel at a at a later date. Uh, meeting is being held via Zoom tonight. Uh, if you need to uh, we'll unmute

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during the meeting. If we need to if you have any questions, please raise your hand. Um agenda list all topics that will be discussed at the meeting and those that originally anticipated uh by the park commission may be taken as a result of these discussions. Not all

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items listed may be in fact discussed and other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by open meeting law. With that I will open our meeting. Um don't need to do a roll call attendant. I learned that last time. >> Correct.

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Um, I'll open it up to u board or public comment. Anyone in the board has any public comments to start the meeting? >> Not. >> Do we have any public comments for those on Zoom?

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I Jen. Hi, Jen. Um, we'll move on to facility director and recreation director updates. Uh, from a facility director update, uh, the only update Chris had was that weeds were being pulled at Town Beach >> today. >> Starting they finish today. >> Yeah.

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>> Right. Yes. Start Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. There were no swim lessons this week is my understanding when I stopped by Dr. Jared. So, uh, that didn't interrupt swim lessons, which was good. uh kind of convenient week to do that. Um and uh I don't know the end result.

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>> They'll know next week. So the >> what that looks like, but >> yeah, >> Chris debated on maybe grabbing a tank and going for a swim with them. I'm not sure if he did that or not, but >> no. So when they um first of all, how to give a park commissioner a panic attack, come around the corner at 9:45 in the

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morning and see a large boat in the buoy area thinking like somebody was now boating in the swimming space. Um, I about had a heart attack and then I realized who it was. Um, so it's when they pull the weeds, it's mucky now

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because it stirred up all the muck. So, it's going to take um up to a week or so for it to settle down and then they'll have a better idea of the success of it. >> Uh, buoys did get fixed. By the way, Jared had said to me, by the way, just buoys get fixed by the beach. There were some buoys that were damaged corners

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>> that got fixed. Uh, and I did point out uh the hole in the fence um on the side we don't use. There's a uh it looks like someone peeled the corner of the gate back to try and crawl into that space. There's no door on that side anymore. There used to be a door to

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get into the building on that side at one point, right? Wasn't there a door that went >> So they pulled it up on the um >> on the flat side. >> Oh, so on like the um >> where the picnic table >> where the picnic tables were. They like years and years ago. >> Used to be a door a long time ago. Long time ago. There's no door and it was a

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window, but they did peel. There's enough space in there to be able to crawl through. So, I did take a picture to Chris to see if we get that. It looks like it can be pulled back down and secured, I think. But I did send that off when I stopped by the other day. Uh, that was the only

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update from Chris. Um, Chris updates from >> Yeah. So, thanks for coming by. Um, one thing that was brought to my attention about the beach was they were wondering about closing date. So, they

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were asked, well, Jared was mentioned, um, normally they close like around the 23rd. Um, because that's when most people go back to school, but since Labor Day is a little bit later, he was thinking they could stay open till the 29th. I did do some digging to see if it's even worth

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um, keeping open. Uh, can I throw some stuff in here? So, I also talked to Jared today. Um, and I actually pulled a bunch of numbers um trying to see >> where we were. Um, in order for he has enough to staff the beach with the

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regular hours through the 23rd of August. >> If we were to consider staying open an additional week, the hours would have to be adjusted from noon to 6. Um, all of that said, um, our when we

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increased our rates back in May, we have seen an increase in what we've brought in for for money, but we are not realizing what I think we had hoped to realize like I I think when we or whenever we raised it, was it March,

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April, whatever we raised it, um, we had raised say the in town rate, say It was like by 25%. We haven't realized a 25% increase >> in what we're bringing in >> in we are bringing in more but we I it's

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remembering correctly I think we thought we would see about a $10,000 increase. We are not realizing that at this point. So, I would throw out some extreme caution, especially um we have expended out of the $15,000 that the town has

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on the salary line for Town Beach, it's 15,000. We have expended $8,000 and $8,93 of that. And that was an update as of today and that covered through this past Saturday. So, in the two and a half

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weeks that we were open, what Melissa in town manager's office had told me today was that we've expended 8,900 of those dollars. Once we hit 15K, it's going to come out of our revolving account from our beach fees,

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which is fine. Um, I just don't want to get into a situation where we decide to keep the beach open and we are getting ourselves really far into the red because we are also paying other salaries from that line.

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>> Yes. So, I was also going to say um with that if we were to extend it, I was only going to say maybe do the weekend and do some kind of closing like event on the weekend if we wanted to. But I don't think it's

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um going to be worth keeping open for another week, especially with kids going like getting ready to go back to school and um families like you know finishing up vacations. I just I don't know. I I don't think

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>> it's quieter. The end of the end of the end of December is quieter. You get more people that are probably going to try and squeeze that last minute vacation in before, >> right? >> The school starts the 31st. I think >> it starts the first. Sorry, the 31st is

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a Monday. So, we start >> I do like the idea of ending on a weekend with some type of closing event instead of just like is that a midweek? the 2. So the 23rd is a Sunday. >> Oh >> yeah, 23rd is a Sunday and the 29th will be >> Yeah. >> the other option which is a Sat which

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will be the following Saturday. >> I mean I I don't think we should keep it open if we're I mean we're looking to save some money too and try to keep you for longer. Um and even trying to keep it like people want to open the beach

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next year, but if we keep going in red with all of our programs or other stuff, we're not going to be able to do that, right? So, >> a little bit of savings can impact the abilities maybe to >> Right. Do we contract like our beach person or our lifeguards to a certain date? No. No. Okay. We we haven't told

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cuz we don't have a end date normally until we know when they're all going back to school. Um, so >> does that impact because I know there's a seasonal >> we have those dates. We have >> we have this discussion every year where like we know they need to end by a certain. So, we have um and this is for

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everybody's education. In order for us to hire life drag on a seasonal basis, we have to file paperwork with the state and it can only be a certain number of days. >> And we typically try to do it this year was a little bit different because I think the paperwork got in a little bit later, but we typically try to do it

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>> earlier so that if a beach director came needed to start a week or two before everybody else, they could because we can't pay them until that date with the state >> starts. And so I think they're going I think we technically have put in for a

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seasonal employment through the middle of September. I believe that's what we did again this year. And that has we've always put it in there in case we wanted the beach director to come to a end of the year meeting with us that we they could

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actually be paid for it. Um we've never had them do that but um so there is that but that's not something that we've put out to >> Yeah. We've never open to that. >> Right. Okay. >> Do we know what the breakdown is for utilization? Um, season passes versus

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day passes. >> I have money wise. I had a hard time going through today trying to get the actual numbers. >> I only did the membership stuff. I didn't get to the day stuff yet, but I did from this year to last year just trying to get numbers and then swim

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lessons. But I haven't done day. I can look at day right now though. >> I have money figures for day. The day file. Okay. So money figures last year 2025 up to this day of June 22nd we had brought in $996.

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This year up to this day is $1,745. >> Yeah. >> And I know and that that last deposit that I did was probably like a week ago. So I haven't done another one yet. So I haven't gone back to get the rest of it. So there could be more in there. >> And well and so that's you mean the cash

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is down in the beach. This is just the numbers that I filled up. Um, this is just the myra numbers. >> Oh, cuz I did c my cash deposits I think close to 1,200. Um, >> the only the feedback that Jared gave just for future reference for all of you

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for next year is that um he said day passes have been going well that when the only um negative he has seen is he's had some out of town residents that come in ask what the out of town rate is. they give it to them and he said there's

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been quite a few that have decided it's just too much and they they don't they don't come in but overall we're up and I don't remember I did go back to look I don't know how much we are up if we hit the goal and the day passes the day

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passes seem to be up more than I expected them to that's more than that's about double and she is c a cash deposit we're definitely more than >> yeah double >> do you have the actual um like how many um family passes and that kind of stuff. I don't have that

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>> from like 20 26 to last year. >> Yeah. Whatever you're comparing. >> So, actually we have the same amount for last year to this year. So, there's 87 family passes. Um the individual passes went down from four. Like we had six last year, we only have four this year.

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Um the senior passes went down. We had 23 last year. We only had 12 this year. And then the add-ons went down. We had 20 last year and 10 this year, but the family passes remain the same. We had 87 for both years. Um, so I wonder why my

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numbers aren't making sense. So this is what I have. >> But to be fair real quick, the way that it was set up last year is really difficult to interpret. I don't know if I'm interpreted correctly because of the way it was set up.

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>> So I can't also say if that's 100% accurate. So I want to put that out there. Yeah. No, and that's in going back in my old emails that I had sent back in the spring to town manager, that's exactly what I said. I'm like, >> I don't know why >> my my rack math isn't math mathing, so

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don't quote me on it. But so total beach passes in 2025 total that were sold um price-wise was $8,673. And then this year, and I can't imagine much more would be sold, we're halfway through the season, is 10,780.

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So we're up 2,000 on that. on the swim lessons. And this is important to note. Um, last year he did two sessions, both morning and afternoon sessions. This year they were only running morning. Last year we brought in 3,930 and this year we brought in 4,796.

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So even though our swim lessons have gone down, >> more kids have signed up for morning sessions. >> More we have more in the morning session, but it should if I'm He has four people on, correct? When he has swim lessons, he's running So we're

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employeewise we are only running three in the afternoon now whereas during swim lessons last year he had to run four. >> So um yeah I mean in looking at the he and I looked at the numbers together for a little bit today and I was surprised

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at some of them and I was surprised at some of the attendance numbers I didn't expect after reading some comments on Facebook about somebody saying they never see anybody at the town beach. I was expecting to see a lot of zeros in there and I wasn't.

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>> Right. So there are we do have um I mean we had three people one afternoon. It's like >> well this is the thing I mean if day passes are up like that financially that's the only reason to extend the season is if we're going to

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continue to get more day passes. We the the season passes are purchased that's done for. Um, if the day passes are up though, is it worthwhile to stay open? Are we actually getting enough people for it to be worthwhile to stay open that extra

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week? >> That's a concern because again, >> we Yeah, we just don't know. And >> but are we anywhere close like if if it's just >> I mean, because if we four people come that day though, that's not going to even pay or touch for the staff to all

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be there, >> right? That's that's what I'm trying to get at some context for that >> approximate numbers and this is back of the navig >> to put two if he cut back to just having two lifeguards for those that six hour shift which

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>> that would be the the absolute bare bones minimum and something that he wouldn't want to do but he would if he had to. for six hours, it runs about $270 a day in salaries. And I'm not sure we'd bring in $270, okay, a day in day passes.

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>> Okay. >> Well, it's weather dependent, right? >> And so that's the other thing, too. So, my what I had said to Jared and what I was going to suggest to you guys tonight is, you know, consider holding it, not

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making a decision tonight. Let's figure out what the money actually looks like because again, we are just starting fiscal year on July 1. Karen Barrett, who's the town accountant, she's actually out. Um, and

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she's usually pretty good at helping me understand the numbers. It would be good to get another week or two into this and see what we're at for money and then also um to see what the weather starts looking like because a couple of things

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could happen. We could have a bacteria bloom at the beach and then the beach gets closed >> and if we're closed for a week >> that may that makes the decision a little bit easier on the other side. If we get weather, he's been really good this year at

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>> watching the weather. yesterday he had they had closed early. >> So, you know, if we get a week of weather, three or four days of weather, it may be something that we say because that also impacts our season's passes cuz nobody's going to want to buy seasons passes if the season gets

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shorter and shorter and shorter, >> right? you know, so I would say wait >> in, you know, at sometime in that first week of August, um, make a decision on whether or not we're going to close on the 23rd or whether we want to close on

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>> Do we need to vote on when we close or that's a unilateral decision that Christa can >> I don't know >> or can we vote to make >> it, you know, like I'm not I don't know. I don't recall past years we voted on date.

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>> It's been mixed. We've talked about it and we've sort of all come to an agreement this year. What's makes it a little different is we know for a fact that salaries are coming out of our revolving account. So, if you're going to give um approval for Christa to make

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the final decision, it may be something that you want to say as long as it meets this criteria because you don't not that I think Chris is going to run away with yeah, I think she's going to do that, but we don't want it we don't want it to go

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into the we don't want too much coming out without us knowing that it's coming out. And additionally, as we're looking at the beach closing for the next summer, we may want to show a profit for the year as like part of an incentive to stay open as opposed to depleting our

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funds to keep the beach open an extra week and paying for the salary. So if we see that we went up on the swim lessons, we went up on our day passes, we went we stayed steady on our, you know, um, on our family passes, but actually we went

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up a little bit because we charged more. Correct. Right. >> So, you know, we're going to show that this might be generating a little bit of revenue to keep it open as opposed to like if we deplete it by taking out salaries and all that stuff at the very end. Um, but it also might show good

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faith that we're keeping the future of residents a little bit longer. So >> that's the look at it's a it's a nice service we provide a town residents, >> right? So >> Labor Day is later so it's a different sort of >> Yeah. So I think you know 90 degrees and

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it's closed people right it's the opposite effect right and talking to Jared today was um was funny because he's like you know we had nice weather and it was warmer earlier in the day and there was nobody here and now it's raining and we've got kids here in

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the water figure he's a good figure >> so they don't care that's part of that's part of it you know >> so we should table this until we get town accountant to tell us what our needs really Or maybe even if you have to call on like you could only

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just have that one topic >> cuz we don't meet until the 26 which would be >> but it would be too late >> either after we close or in the midst of >> moving too. There's no question of uh like high school versus college kids. There is staff and everyone >> there is staff. Um Jared had had said he

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has enough staff to be open from noon to 6. >> Um >> at least two guys high school please. >> Okay. Yes. He's available in so um so he's available. So I think a combination >> of that kind of stuff and we have just so everybody knows too if they haven't

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followed there have been a couple of days we've had to close because of staffing numbers which >> I mean it is what it is. I mean what are we going to be like we it's not like we have a huge pool of candidates to pull from. So, it's not like we can be like, "You have to work July 4th weekend

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because if they have plans every year and they're away, they're not going to take this job. They're going to go somewhere else and have anybody." >> Correct. Correct. So, our pool's not big enough to sort of play those games though. It was only two days and then we had to just take a twohour time off one

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day. So, it wasn't too bad. Yeah. Which is good. >> So, I would say let's let's hold on making a decision. Uh because I do think like for sure I would I would certainly like if we're closed for bacteria or we're closed for a week of weather then I would certainly be in favor of

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>> and you guys know what that that's what that email is that's coming in >> that we get every week. Yeah. Thankfully >> the bathing beach. >> The ba I like that every time I read it. Is that really why are we calling this the bathing beach on

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>> No idea. >> Um >> joking. So that's that's fun. So I don't know if you want me to do any other updates or do theou first or >> we have that as a separate line. So if you have a hold dates, we can do that. And but I did add theou right after this as a separate.

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>> Okay. So >> item in case we needed to >> I mean I'm planning fall the registration dates are going to open um August 3rd for residents and then the following Monday the or whatever that is. I can't math right

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now. That Monday will open for non-residents. Um the programs are open for people to view. And then this Sunday there's the volunteer information session at the library at 1. So I've been advertising that. Hopefully people will show up. I did get an email from

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one person saying that she wants to help but she can't make it. So that was great. >> That was Sunday. >> Yeah. >> So I going to send her some opportunities, but just throwing that out there for >> for that. I'll definitely need some help. >> See you soon. That's um in terms of

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registration, have we had a lot of programs canled because we've had no registration? >> So, I haven't canceled any programs yet, but Kids Test Kitchen does not have anyone registered for it yet and that starts the second week in August. So, that one would probably have again

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>> that with no registrations. That one's easier. I'm just worried more worried about um when people are registered. If we're canceling a program, we're not doing it. So, I'm actually trying to keep all of them open. So, a few of the programs are the programs I'm running

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and there's only a couple for one and uh a few more for another. So, I'm going to try to join them and then but I'm not canceling any of them. I'm going to run them either way, even if it's low numbers um just to get them going and hopefully spread the word like, oh, the

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class was really fun and that kind of stuff. So, I'm hoping people will hear a little bit more about it. you have um you have some the the bubble program which I think is fantastic. We have a program in town, Chris, I'm

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hoping you have a name for me. It used to be run by um Patty McCarthy Gillette Gillette McCarthy. You know who I'm talking about? It was runth over at the TC Pacios and that queen used to also work there.

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No, they did something in the morning. Do you know who's running it now? My kids did the summer camp over there. >> I'm going to see if I can find it for you. So, they have an early learning center. I don't know what they're doing next year or I don't know what they did this year. Um, and I'm wondering if you

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should reach out to them and ask if they can send out an email say you're running this program because they don't have any programs over the summer. So, just say I'm running this program. Would you, you know, could you share this? It's through a grant. I'm going to see if I can find it. And

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I'm also wondering if you should try hitting up like St. Bonafice Preschool, which is in the center of town. Um, what's the place across the street? Um, >> Bonjour School. >> Bonjour. And I'm wondering if you should throw it out to them to see if they have >> What was the first school you said? St.

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>> St. B. Oh, I'll just let him. >> It's really stressful spelling out loud. Do this right. Do this right. >> Yeah. For the whole splash. I was hoping to get like more of a turnout, but right

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now like I only have two registered for one of the days. So, we'll see what happens. Like, I'm still, like I said, I'm still going to run it. Um, Natalie Marbella, it's coming your way. >> Okay. What is the what's the program?

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>> It's um it's the early learning center and afternoon extended day. So playgroup room and afternoon extended day is what it is. So they have a during the school year they have a play group. >> Oh they do the well yeah before kids get picked up. >> Nope. Nope. This is um this is separate.

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Um yeah it's separate and it's um it used to be at TC Pasio. It's like a playgroup type thing where kids could come in. I think they came with their parents and then I think they also did like a um like a preschool program outside of the preschool program here.

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>> My kids didn't do it. >> Yeah, but that may be a way to get some ext. >> Okay, I'm done talking now. >> I don't think so. Maybe point to the contrary. We love the character

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>> and I love that >> you have good information. >> One docker to >> um but yeah, I think that's all I'll give some updates right now. >> Uh we can go on to the um for >> Sorry, I do have one more.

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>> Oh, please go ahead. Um, so we're going to do pet chalk again this year. I don't know if the girls were part of that last year or not, but that we picked a date. I'm meeting with um DPW tomorrow actually to like go over details and everything, but it's going to be August

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21. I'll just double check so I don't give you the wrong date. August 28th, Friday, from 12:00 to 2:30. Um, so that's when we're going to do the touch event. >> Yep.

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>> Well, so what time? >> 2:30. >> I have a question for you. She >> and it might have come from her. Have you? Um, so years ago when the track was the track and the fair complex

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were built over at um the high school, they ran miles for miles, which >> I forgot. Quiet now. I forgot to bring this one up, too. My mind's everywhere. Sorry. I've been out of it this week. I was at the hospital this week, so don't

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mind me. But anyways, uh, >> right. >> Yeah. >> She'll survive. I'm sure. It'll be a bit, but she'll survive. >> Um, I was talking to Chris about doing a costume parade run. Uh, he said to bring

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it up to you guys to see what your thoughts were. So, I was really excited about it. I was like, we could call like costume craze, but like do like a 5K. I was mapping it out and we were talking about doing um, let me just pull it up real quick because I don't want to give you the

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wrong way. So, we said start at the school, go Oak A to Northfield to Highland to stay all on the back roads so that we're not like on the main roads, not have to shut anything down. Um, I figured around the track we could do like one of the kids like a boo dash or whatever for like the smaller kids.

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Um, we could get the one day liquor license. Um, and then like I have it all sorted out, have like maybe some stations lined up um, and things like that. that. So, I wasn't sure what your guys's thoughts were. I think it's

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great. Um, I will say that you may want to touch base with the um Lunberg Business Association if you're doing something around Halloween because they do trunk or treat and you just don't want it to conflict with their event. >> Okay. And do we need to involve Lenberg Police

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Department? >> I would think I have them on there a police detail cuz I'm pretty sure they're going to have to like have combs and stuff out. I don't know because I think they do that, right? I would think so. >> So, Miles for Miles is not really allowed. So, I >> I don't know what Miles Miles is. I

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>> Miles Miles planning committee. >> Okay. That's right. Right. >> Still. >> Yeah. >> They still have it. >> Oh, it happens every >> Miles from Miles. >> Yes. October. >> Okay. Then I take that back. We can't do it in October. >> This is where Yeah. This is where I was getting. So, but what I So, here's what

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here's what I would here's what I might suggest. So I'm okay >> I I help out with the finish line. That's what I do with those. And I I bring a clock because I get a clock from my running club in Grton and I have an inflatable art >> miles for miles. It's it's run by the track boosters. It's a fundraiser for

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the track track team. >> Um it is mid October every year. I believe this year is October >> to Sunday. always do a turkey trot. That's a sort

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of thing. You maybe even >> bump the miles is October 18th is the date that's reserved for miles. >> Yeah. So, >> I actually really I like the idea um and the thought it's the same race course. So, you'd be like if you did this, it

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would be a direct competition and probably not well >> received. This is why it's not good that I don't know much about the time. >> However, like I I mean I think every year like they're always looking to bring in, you

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know, more runners and >> all that kind of kind of deal. They do a great job with sponsors. >> Um >> so it may it may be worth a conversation. I don't know what the partnership would look like and I'm not

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like I I have no I I >> I I don't have a track runner in the in the mix anymore. I'm not like I'm but I help out with the race for the next couple of next couple years mainly and kind of in part because I think in 2028 as part of the 300th anniversary we would kind of brand it that way. My hope

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it would be to brand things in 2028 as part of the >> I don't want to share their profits or anything like that. No, but if you drove additional like I I don't know what it would look like and I can put you in touch with people to have a conversation kind of deal >> the table so that I can promote things. That's

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>> Oh, that would be sick. I think that would be s I'm sure we can you know I'm sure we can figure >> Hold the thought for a second as I ask Chris this the um teen center color run was held down at at the lakeside cor right

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>> that I don't remember where they held it. So they did the >> there was a color run. >> They did a color run. I believe it took off down by the by the lakefront which depending on when you did it right, >> you could even if you ended up doing you

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could do something in the winter, but you could also do something in the spring because then we could have the beach house open for, you know, bathroom usage. But um they I'm almost positive they were down on the lakefront because I remember seeing pictures of them set up. So the lakefront is weird. We

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obviously we have the town beach. The the parking area I actually believe falls to the select board, but if you go down to the um the rotary and you go down that other side >> that's owned by the the water side of that is going by the sledge board.

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>> Yes. >> So that's still town >> that I and I know that they would be more than happy to um have us do something like that. So that would might be an alternate to the or alternate to >> give something different or runners. >> Yeah, that would be

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>> or you could combine it with a fall festival in November. >> Yeah, >> like a turkey trot fall festival with tables that vendors will come in and set up, >> right? >> For the turkey trout, just watch your date because airly p the air turkey truck pulls a lot of people. >> The air

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>> air has a turkey truck. So what you're saying is we need to find our own dates like sep where we're not competing with anybody so we can >> I don't want the just I mean just from a a a race standpoint like the running the race market is very saturated. Oh, I

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know. >> I do like I'm like I've done the Graten Road race. I'm not part of that for >> 15 16 years. >> So, >> and every year you have the discussion, all right, when is the Resnan race? When is this race? When is this? So, you don't like you're trying to navigate and pick your like we're going to lose

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certain number of hunters to this and we lose a certain number here. When do we maximize our you know >> different make money for our >> miles is small >> miles isund 200 people maybe kind of it used to be big when I like we first

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started when we first moved to town it was several hundred >> I didn't even know you still did it so >> well running is a big thing and everybody wants to run >> so I think it's a great deal or >> I one year made a goal for myself to run a 5k every month and do you know how many 5ks are in the area

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I get it. So, >> but I think if I was trying to make it something different, I was even thinking cuz like color runs or things that are different. I thought it'd be fun to do like an inflatable run. You know those silly inflatables that people wear? How funny would it be to see like T-Rex run?

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>> So that so I would like to try to make something our own. So if you guys have other ideas, maybe we don't do the turkey char the Halloween thing. We do something of our own. Like if you guys have ideas, just shoot them. I mean you can look at things too like even like couch to 5k plans like you as from a

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volunteer standpoint so forth right >> that lead into some of these races even right like some sort of >> thing that leads into you know and it's your group that is running in costume or >> right >> you know whatever it may be so I'm happy to line you up with the you know the the

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contact from miles from miles and if again I from that like I mean I think they're always looking to grow numbers and >> yeah and that kind of so there's a partnership in some capacity to figure I I don't know like I'm >> not speaking with any authority I literally stand at the finish line and

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click a button when people cross and we verify we got the right times with the right with the right runners like that's the extent of my thing >> heavier in the fall as far as races versus sprint >> it doesn't it's the only time it thins out was the winter time >> yeah and if we want to do like a resident or a community thing hope for

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Haley might be a nice idea for a ride >> Patty I'm sorry Um, that might be a nice idea. Uh, and it wouldn't be revenue generating for us, but it might be revenue generating for the family. I know a lot of we we had the same thing

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in Arlington. It was very popular. Um, you know, >> just paying it forward to >> paying it forward to a community or a um, you know, a medical charity or something like that. So, just a thought just throwing it in, throwing my hat in

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there. Thank you. >> Oh, >> I think I'm done. I know. I think >> you're here. Appreciate you being here. >> If you think of more, you can you can tell us at any moment. Totally fine. >> Um, but we can go on to the uh from the

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uh from the library trustees. >> Yeah. So, this all started when I went to um New York and we were having a discussion about space because obviously space to run programs and so he wanted to make sure that

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what space I we're going to be using um doesn't interfere with what they're trying to do at the library. So, that's kind of what this is outlining. He did ask me to meet earlier this week, but I was out. Um, and so I'm meeting with

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him, I think on Friday. Um, but he said that the trustees had cuz he also brought this to the trustees just to go over it. And he said that they there was a couple concerns. So, I don't recommend we do anything with this yet until I

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hear what the concerns were um from him about it. But it's basically just kind of outlining what we're going to be using and doing um just to have an understanding um on both sides.

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So I mean if you guys want to ask any questions about it, you can. I just like I said I don't know what they're going to say from the text side yet. So >> this is the strangest animal I've ever seen. >> But the language is very odd.

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The conflict I see is both parties acknowledge that the attendance fees for rec department events are contrary to library mission and values >> because they don't charge anything for their events and they like to keep it that way. So when we were having the

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discussion about keeping um like because obviously we're using their facilities but we're charging and they don't charge. So it was kind of conflicting to like their mission and their values for the library itself. So he was just trying to make sure that it's >> the library that's funded by our tax

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dollar. >> Exactly. >> So my suggest my suggestion on this too would be to say yes in the in the overall authority of things as they're going to put forward whatever they put forward. Whether we agree to it or not

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is fine, but I would say I think there's somebody else in town that should also weigh in on thisou. >> I agree. Um because I think that um in the big picture of things, we are one town. Our tax dollars pay for that

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building that they rent out for free to other community things which and they're not looking to charge us. >> But and I'm going to give an example. Years ago, we tried to start up the Graange again in in town and we were successful until CO hit. That was

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membership fee based. What's the green? It was a It's like a um agricultural type um um fraternity type thing. Um but there was membership fees for that and >> it's like the >> you know there was noou that came

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forward >> for our use of that building. So I'm a little bit concerned that there I think if it's it's because it's a lot which is fine which is >> I keep I'm like can I use this? Can I use this? and I use these this day for the next 6 weeks. So, I think that's

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more of a concern. It's not like every now and then, like for the fall from on Saturdays right now, I have it from like 8:30 in the morning till like 300 p.m. And so, I think that's more of the concern. they have anything in like

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>> not yet but cuz I scheduled so far concerned >> just if anybody else wants to use it like they're giving it priority to town >> I would so I am not disagreeing I know I know what they're trying to do

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I'm just saying it's it's just a >> um and anou is not >> it's not atypical for stuff like this it's you know It's we don't have anything in writing with the school district and we need to have something in writing and it would look you know it

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would be different than this but it would have some of the same details of being on the same page of understanding. I'm just a little bit more um they they do fall under general town

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stuff unlike the school they fall under general like the library is falling under general town stuff. >> Yeah. And then the language of of which the parks and recck departments are outside groups. Like I feel like we should be considered an inside group if we're all the town. >> Like I don't

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>> like if they came to rent from us, if they wanted to use our field, they would be in that top tier. They'd be in that top tier. >> Correct. >> It's not like someone else is coming in to rent the space or use the space to run a program. It's not a big building.

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>> Yeah. You're not coming from town. So, I feel like it's not we don't fit into that outside group like list. And I think that's a problem that this town looks at like these are our spaces. No, these are all of our spaces. Like we all

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should be able to utilize the schools, the library, the fields. Say though we do fall higher than other like outside groups if that helps. But I'm just That's true.

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>> Inside outsiders. >> And I'm not saying, you know, I love the library. I like the programs. I think we have a great library and our head librarian is awesome. Um, but some of the language here makes it sound like we're like a charity like department or just will allow you to use the space and

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we're going to but we pay taxes and the people that are going to be using the space are residents that pay taxes, right? >> So, it's it's different. It's a different vibe, I think, than just some outside group wanting to use the space to work program.

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>> Um, and then this and this commitment to schedule events at on at least 75% of these reserved dates. >> Um, what does that mean? So, we went over that because I h I didn't know what was meant by that either, but he's saying

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like if they're trying not to schedule stuff on certain days so that I can use it on certain days that we're I'm going to actually have stuff in there. Okay. >> If you're reserving time and then going to be scheduling things into that time and they want to make sure that if you're reserving the time, >> what is the consequence if say we have

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to cancel a program for low enrollment or >> Yeah. So, what is that you know like you can never use the space again. Next year when we go to use space again, they're going to say no because we didn't honor thisou. So what is the you

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know? Yeah, I actually didn't think of that or ask that because the kids test that is supposed to be in August I feel like is is not going to get anybody. So we might I'm going to have to cancel it. So that's actually a great question and I can talk to him about that as well.

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And then they're opening I mean according to this they're opening the the space back up four weeks in advance. So there's a month's not like if it means if you're scheduling something last minute the space may not be

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available but >> right yeah I told them >> how much stuff are they booking >> four weeks in advance. Um, yeah, it's just a >> I like the advertisement, but I'm confused about the language. The library will showcase one rec department event

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happening in the library facility. >> So, in their newsletter, they'll put one of the events that >> just one. >> Yeah. That I'm going to do in the library. So, like they by the 15th of every month, if I send them um information, they'll put it in their newsletter to highlight a program. >> So, who chooses the one?

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>> I did. I just choose the school like I'm trying to choose programs that are one at the library because we're using their two I'm trying to pick programs that I know are beneficial or have like maybe a low

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revenue or not like a low participation and I want to increase the numbers to that program. >> Um so that's kind of what I did. >> So why would they not advertise all >> they don't they don't have space. Okay. >> Yeah. They don't have space. So this is for us to advertise one. >> Yeah. And then but he did say on their

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monitor that I could al they'll also advertise that um on their monitor but it also just gets the program out so that hopefully people will look at more programs. Yeah. >> So that's kind of the idea of that. >> I don't love the language and they keep saying like attendees fees for rec departments events are contrary to our

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library mission. In fact is a free access for all. That makes us sound bad. Like, >> well, this this will come down to like some a little bit of like semantics of the way that they're wording things on all of this because there's no such thing as

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free. Like, you know what I mean? >> Everything cost money. >> Everything costs money staff to keep the library open, run the free programs like >> and even even their programs aren't free. Whether they're getting it through a grant, whether the friends of the library are covering it, there's no such

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thing as free. They're just they don't have to extend >> it a fee, which is the issue that we've had in the past when they run >> there was one year they ran a fitness program >> and they didn't charge for it yet we were running a fitness program that we

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had no choice but to charge for. It's like there got to be some there's going to be some level playing field here. They have a bigger they have a bigger um activity budget that comes from the town. Their programming fee

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>> that the programming they get from the town >> it's huge compared to what we used to get. We get nothing. We have nothing right now. So, you know, it's I I as much as I respect what they're trying to do, I think personally I have to push back on it and say what you're doing is

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not free. It's just being covered by our taxes. It's all the same thing. It's just coming from a different pot. So to say that it's contrary, it's not contrary. It's just it's different than what you're doing because you're paying for it from a different bucket. And this asks in the budget to to fund the staff

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that st that staff these free programs. So that's not free. Um so I mean and there's a room use policy that everything has to be free there because we're violating the room use policy. Do we have any other place where we can

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use that? I don't want you to go back. So, >> you know, I I know that their policy like you cannot >> I could go down there and book a room to to do one of my sword presentations. I could not charge people to attend it, >> right? >> Because that would be a violation of the

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the library's free use policy for the room. >> So, I can have the space. >> I just can't charge. >> You're the same as us. No, no, I was saying that's what the policy is >> in that capacity. I would very much be an outside entity. Business can't come

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in Exactly. and charge charge an >> event. So that's why I feel the difference is you're an outside entity providing a free service. Now, do they have to staff the library though to if you're in there like at night give you they closed >> the allow like

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>> you could use the >> east side the Dragons game that ran until 9:30 every Monday for the heat on >> the lights the lights are on bathroom >> that seems like that will be cost to the

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city if we're keeping lights on and heat up >> the town I mean this everything costs So to say you're running something for free doesn't mean that anything is free. And I agree with you there. But this is just a very I've never read anou between a library >> and a town. >> We haven't anything right.

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>> I have seen anou it just but it's more like the reporting which is very important when you have use in the library like how many people are in there who's coming in you know >> usage. Who drafted this initially? >> New York did library

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on the best page. It looks like something else just caught my eye. Uh, the recck department will be permitted to hang flyers and posters on the town info side of the community bulletin board in the library. Well, does it okay

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department flyers will include an acknowledgement of the library support in enabling events to take place at the library when the format permits. A vocal acknowledgement will also be made during events. I'm sorry that seems >> I'm I am wondering

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>> to me >> I am very curious what the board of trustes feedback actually was here because we could be sort of making them out of molehill. They could be looking their feedback could be this is ridiculously prescriptive. We want to have a partnership with the town.

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>> We no just putting that out there both >> either way. >> I mean we're kind of stuck because we want to run these programs there. It's a very nice facility. Right. >> Yeah. But I mean, I feel like this is a jumping off point here, this like we're not just going to sign this blindly,

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>> right? Right. >> Yeah. I would say before we make any bread lines, let's get them back. >> All set like for now. So >> without signing this, >> right? >> So you you have use of facility. That's the biggest primary concern right now is

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>> you're getting used to the facility, >> right? If anything, I can use this room too for most of the programs. it wouldn't be an issue. So, if I do have to move stuff, I already know that this room would work. I would just have to set up different tables. >> And if you have to use this room, you

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reach out and let us know so we can I'll come in and we will clean this out. I'm actually I am actually also meeting with Jod and Liz tomorrow as well to talk to them just to introduce myself you know so they know who I am make sure they

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understand like the access I'm having issues with still like talk about like how we can work with each other like I know some of their sports programs got cut like how can I help you like can I bring something in that kind of stuff um so I am going to meet with them tomorrow

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as well so I'm hoping >> to trying to start a golf league relationship. What did you say? >> I'm in the midst of trying to start a golf league. >> Oh, really? >> Maybe you should do that through the recreation department. >> I wonder if director a program sponsored by that.

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>> Would they take an individual conversation? >> So, yeah, I don't think we should be signing this yet. And maybe we should have >> We're not going to sign. They're doing they're going to have fall. Can we can we revisit this with

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>> their edits so you get the edit and then >> is it possible to have a inerson meeting with them and us >> to go over like the questions that we have because I might be like >> interpreting this as like incorrectly right >> and as like even text messages emails

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you can build >> but some of the language is very odd to me >> I would I would say let's get there >> do the same thing you just do language sentence ahead of time is great. So everyone's able to look at it and review it. Um so I would do the same thing. We can if it's at the next meeting we can

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talk to the next meeting and if we feel we want to schedule a meeting with them to have a conversation. >> But as long as there fall >> yeah primary concern is making sure you have space to do that. >> I'll make sure that too but I'm pretty like it's already booked in there. So that's why I'm saying I'm pretty sure that I'm not I doubt he's going to be

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like no you can't use it anymore if it's not signed. But it's already booked. So >> we may know some people that deal with the finances in this county. We can see >> could figure that out very easily >> if you're meeting with the school and so forth. But we do have we don't have anou

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but we have a reciprocal agreement of facility usage. >> It's not even in writing. >> It's not written. It's been kind of Isn't there wasn't >> that >> I think the school committee made a motion just >> I think the school committee had made it

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>> they have like a policy they so they have a policy and we have a policy so we know where we fall in the pecking order the problem that has come into play when it comes to the school department is their needs are much greater than ours or I let me rephrase their needs for sports are so great in the fall and in

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the spring that sometimes they don't have enough space for themselves. >> Yeah. >> And when you're now trying to compete with us, >> it it's hard for us to find time to slide a program in. And we're not going to be able to slide a program in in the afternoons on any of their fields for

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youth. So, it would open up like an evening program usually for adults. Mhm. >> But the problem with all of this, not even that it's a problem cuz it's it's certainly not to have the baseball programs, the softball and baseball programs on Marshall Park. If you were

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to if you chose to keep score you and you put down all the usage that they take from us, we don't have that in return and they because there are the fields fall under us, their use of those fields don't get added to their books.

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So we as a town in the general budget under the facilities budget cover all of those costs and no piece of it is borne by the school committee. >> Yeah. We absorb some all the cost for >> for sub base. when you then look, you

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know, when you're looking at what we use for space, I we and we could talk about this at another point or you and Chris can talk about it is, you know, there may be an opportunity here if we can't get the outside field space because what the

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reciprocal agreement had been was that um we could use their outside field space at no charge, but if we started using inside space, we'd have to cover the um >> custodial the custodial type thing. But my question in my head is what do you

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what is the true cost for custodial if you're running if we're running a program that we typically don't leave our spaces a mess when we walk out of so is there a way that you know if you're using Marshall Park for 100 hours can we get 25 hours of indoor classroom time in

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the season like there may be something more creative that you can do to think about um but you know obviously feel them out tomorrow to see what they if they have needs that we can help with that what they come up with in terms of you know being able to use their space

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because our original agreements were not with the current administration. >> Jod just started a year >> or this past year. This is her first year. >> So all of all of that stuff had come with their previous superintendent who had a very interesting relationship with

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the recreation department in general and all of the rec directors that we've had in the past. that was not always a seeing eye to eye situation. >> Um so you know it could be >> totally different this year. She could throw something different at it.

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>> What's the requirement of the justification of the custodial staff in the school >> as opposed to we can go into the library, we can come into the Ritter building, we can do the other buildings. >> I think it's a union thing. There's there's a custodial union. So a union

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thing that if the building >> if the building's being used >> there have to be a custodian on property >> that is the >> yeah but let's clarify that >> um along with the rate because it could be a different rate because it's night

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time if we're using it at night time it could be you know what I mean so >> I think we should clarify the >> there I mean that's the point right I mean so like go that's when the custodians are >> are they >> working >> usually they might. >> So I don't know how they figure out any

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of that. >> So if it's not costing them any more money to have them there. >> Well, they could be they could certainly come back and and there there is some validity in this. They you know we are using space more people in the building. You know if we leave it a mess of course

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they're going to have to pick it up. There's more people using their bathroom facilities. You know, sometimes when they're off hours, kids just, you know, run a muck. And even though I would think we'd be keeping an eye on our kids, you you know, I'm sure they're covering for themselves, which is perfectly fine.

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>> We we should follow suit at our fields, >> right? So that we used to do that and we're get way off topic, but we do that. >> I'm just saying like like you said, it's not even >> town is is is very difficult. It's um I don't think it's even usage

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>> I ever think when I joined this committee years ago was like just it's one big pool of money but >> no >> like during like um vacation weeks and stuff if they run like camps for the school or have any >> they are not right now.

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>> Yeah. There was there was a discussion two summers ago about >> maybe it was last summer but I think Kevin left and never they never get off the ground. So the former ad there was there was some discussion about running some sports camps in the summer time and

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they're >> so it was a difficult for me to to make partnership with them as well. Well, >> but it was difficult. It was a difficult conversation because it >> extended >> a little bit of a kind of compet created a little bit of competition like you're

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talking about like parks is running programming and then they're going to add a sports camp and it's >> sort of I got >> you know competing but there's opportunity perhaps to >> be a sports game could be an art camp multi camp. >> Yeah. So you mean could be a sword fighting camp?

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>> That was the discussion the discussion last summer going into the summer they were trying to think revenue as well, right? >> Um and so there was there was a thought of of sports camps and using the student athletes to be able to run some camps and so forth and revenue generating mechanism there and so forth

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>> generating a school or generating revenue for other outside. >> No, it was school revenue. >> Yeah. So it was it was kind of compete but it was the perception from a park standpoint wasn't directly competing with program that we're already trying to run. >> What you want to ask is whether or not they have an if their extended day

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program which is their before and after school program runs over any school vacations if you're look if you're looking for that. That's what you want to ask for because I don't know what I don't have any kids that are that age anymore. Um but they do have an extended day program.

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They do run just for your reference in terms of things that happen in town. They the school through their director of community schools position they run some sport adult sports stuff. >> Oh, fun. >> Um, so there's basketball that takes

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place most of the year. It kind of takes a break during basketball season because they compete for space on the court. Um, >> that's a I think that's the um Natalie Marabel's email address that I just forwarded to you. If you look at the >> used to be Patricia. >> Yeah.

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Gillette. Yes. Yes. >> Patty. Patty something. >> Yeah. Patty Gillette. Um, who did you say does the adult stuff? The school does. >> The school does. >> The school has a school has a position director of community schools. They also It's the same person that runs the extended day program. >> It's also another thing for the school system to run.

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>> They generate a it's another revenue. It's another revenue mechanism for the school because you play b anyone that signs up and you sign the waiverss to go play basketball. accommodating. >> It's a $40 I think it's 40 bucks to go play in the adult men's basketball. There used to be an adult women's league and that seems

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to have gone away. >> Um but they used to play down at at the primary school. Um now that the men's league is in the gym here, >> um soccer had happened in the past. There was an adult soccer thing that happened in the past. >> They used to do um the the fitness room

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used to be opened up at the >> Yeah, they did a fitness nights. They used to do fitness nights and they'd have an a coach like or one of the gym teachers would be there and they would run uh circuit night. >> Yes. >> You go in twice a week and they had you they had the little fitness bands you'd wear and you you'd see all your results

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when you were done. >> Look at the budget where >> that revenue came in and why it went. >> Well, that name that I gave you that Natalie Marabella, she's a director of community services. >> Natalie. >> Yeah, I'm literally on their page. Natalie Marabella, director of community services. She she retired. Oh, Patty

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retired. Patty got retired services through the school system. >> Okay. >> It's a position director. Yes. The same person that runs the extended day program. >> So interesting to me. >> I know. >> But we double on a lot of um >> Yeah. >> stuff.

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>> Yeah. >> Can't figure it out. >> But they do run some just for your reference thinking of programming. So they do run some >> they run pickle ball. >> All of that over the library. >> Yes. Well, I think it's it's just good to know like who's running what programs. >> It is in really an odd town the way this

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is run. Like generally these programs would run under a recreation, >> right? That's why >> apartments and not under schools or libraries. >> Personally, I think if you were to put together if you as you're digging through all the stuff, start making a list of all the stuff that you find out

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and then somebody I will offer to help put together a calendar. I think if we put everything on paper of all the duplicate stuff that we do in this town where who's it falling under on one calendar and said to town manager make this make sense.

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>> Exactly. You're going to cut the recck department when we could be generating revenue for that everybody else is doing. So, but it's really hard when you have so many when you have different departments doing different things and then say to somebody, well, this department's doing this unless you can

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see it like on paper to say like this is what a calendar in this town looks like and this is all the different parties that are doing things and this is where we probably could see some cost savings if we combine some of this stuff. Um,

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you know, but I think that community person, I think she used to be running under a grant and I I don't know if she still is. Patty Gillette used to be under a grant and I'm not sure what her I don't know what they're doing now. >> I used to soccer. There was an adult soccer in the fall. Used to play on the Massfield Field, you know, all that kind

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of thing. So, it's just >> these pickup soccer pickup soccer. like, oh, this would be fun to do is like dwindling. >> I think I agree, Karen. And and if we could start working together on compiling that calendar, I would love to

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hear what the town manager thinks about it. >> Did you pick up the void that's happened though? Cuz in all this conversation, there's a clear void of what's not who what the age group that's not being serviced, and that's us. >> There's there are some athletic programs

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at the high school. There are, you know, there'll be a single free craft night at the library or every now and again a single event, but that senior center that's a hop in place that they're busy and they have programs >> throw that in there. >> They put like their program in the um

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they did it last Christmas time frame. It was passed like you there was no extra room for it. And those are typically the seniors that are going because it's being offered by the senior center >> and like there's my husband will say it a million times over. There's nothing for

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me here >> because there's nothing for his age group. So, you know, it may be a matter of shifting the age demographic that we're looking at too, especially if we don't see a pickup in registration numbers in some of our programming. >> So, I was thinking about a shift. Um, I

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started working on it last week. Um, and I started writing it down, but instead of focusing more on programs for like kids and like weekly things, I was thinking of trying to focus more on community events and doing

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like like some bigger things or like I don't know if you guys heard of wildlife encounters or you know doing like family bingo nights once a month and like bringing more of like that part into it rather than just like the kid programs or the community situation. >> Yeah. And I think that's kind of the

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place I might need to go. And like you said with adult stuff as well, >> like I think toddlers and adults, like everybody's always looking for toddler stuff. I mean, I'm a I'm a mom of a toddler and I'm always looking for stuff, so I assume other moms are. So, and then adults, like you said, I

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personally look for stuff all the time for myself as well. Um, so, but then there's not a lot of family stuff. So, like I said, like I started writing down just a list of different family stuff that we could do or like a summer special dance. My Candyland estate,

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there is a special dance every year in the >> room. Okay. So then I can do a see the >> spring flame face or something, >> but like more stuff like community >> rather than the programs cuz I feel like

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I've been going crazy trying to get all these programs in and I keep thinking about it and I'm like if I don't get anybody to register, it's not really going to do anything, >> right? >> And it just takes your time and then your frustration when nothing comes in.

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And I think I will be honest and when I look at your list of programming, I think your programming is phenomenal. I think your ideas are absolutely spot on. >> They're outside the box. They're different than what we've done, which is great. >> We get the community to do them. And it's um

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>> you know, I I'm I'm not sure what what it is. >> Educational. We can't advertise at the library. >> However, that I just sent you an email as well. The Luna Lunar Cultural Council is going to be opening up. >> Yes. And the cultural council also does

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a community engagement survey every year that gets feedback on the type of events the town wants to see funded. Um, so that would be a good place to start. I know in past years when I was on the council, yeah, family events was always >> a big thing. Um,

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>> summer concert, the Lunberg Cultural Council. Um, I think I can get you in touch with I think Elise WY is still the chair. >> I think you're correct. Um, I I just I literally just sent her the link. >> Okay. Yeah. Um, but they I'm sure they'd

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be willing to share the results of that community engagement survey with you. Um, and also just kind of give you insight into what past grants have been successful. Um the general their general opinion is anything that is happening

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here in Lunenburgg always gets priority. Y >> um and we h in past years we've ended up funding a significant amount of outside events. So the more stuff coming from Loomberg the >> so I basically would just tell them what I'm what I want to run.

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>> There's a grant application. >> Okay. >> Um there and um and I'm not 100% sure when it opens but there is a grants. It says FY27 details to come. There's a grant application, but if you scroll through, you can see the groups in that

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got last year's grant money and it's I mean a place in acting about it. Fitchburg Art Museum. >> FB Art Museum gets some. Canon Theater gets some. >> Arts and culture grants are the way to go right now. Recreation grants are like >> and the library had had gotten some and

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the Council on Aging had also gotten some. Um, so I think that there's the the question then to figure out is if you can I think part of our problem is we need to get ourselves known like we're here we're

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offering programming because a lot of people don't want to shell out money for a program that they don't know if it's going to be good or not. So, you know, can you get something in early enough so that you can use that money to cover the cost of a program >> to do a free program >> to do a free program. Um,

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>> cultural council grants are uh reimbursement grants. So, they will not cover the outlay. They will reimburse you for the cost of the event. So, you have to be able to cover the event before it runs. They reimburse after the event has been successful.

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>> We can cover that. And I wondered if the senior center is it 55 when you 5, you know, they have the programming for that age and forward. So 50 >> well focused 55. >> They renamed themselves the adult

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activity center. They dropped down to 50. Um you want to know how many 50 year olds are? >> Who look better? >> Anthony. >> Anthony. Yes. Anthony goes big. The majority of the folks are older because they're >> they are open during the day and the

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majority of folks in their 50s are typically still working. So, you know, it is open. I'm usually >> the only one at cribage >> hustling people with cribage change >> cribage money. um you know so I it's the

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majority of the people are are very well into their senior years but that night time slot of um you know our age group of being able to do anything whether it be an art class whether it be >> paint and tip type thing

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>> yeah I have an instructor I'm talking to about doing those right now her name is Judy so I do them too I love them too but yeah >> September 1st is uh when cultural council grants open they close at the end of October

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>> um >> two months grants >> that's when the deadline that's when the deadline for submission is >> though I will say I've been writing a grant >> reach out reach out to the council I guarantee you they will be more than willing to

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>> to help you >> and tell you what they're looking for >> uh but I've >> with the exception of, you know, like the sports stuff. I haven't heard anything that you're proposing that wouldn't qualify for cultural counsel grant. The process is not very

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difficult. Um, really, as long as you can show the impact to the community and the biggest thing is already having a space identified, having an agreement to use a space somewhere. Um because if it's you know we want to hold it here at

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the library but we haven't actually talked to the library yet they will generally not not take those grants seriously but yeah reach out to their I'm sure they'd be more than happy to to help out. >> Okay thank you that's helpful. That was

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the most random all under the under the library folks >> from the director update. Yeah, that was pretty. >> Um, so on the rec director's side, I know you asked about sock best soccer

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scholarships and whatnot. I haven't received any back from LSA. >> Yeah, it's fine. He was >> they weren't sure if they were going to reach out to you directly maybe, but >> it was for the campus. >> So, nobody Okay. >> It was just last minute because he I think he was trying to get more kids

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into the program because like I said, there was only 10 for the full day and I think he wanted more and he wanted to cancel and I was like, "Please don't care. 10 is a good amount. Something it's better than two. Yeah. >> So any that but that would be license

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would be the way to take the >> Okay. >> Um give you um I added budget finance review on here. Chris isn't here. He did send the the sheets to everybody. I know people had questions. We got questions answered. those. I was curious if I

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could >> I didn't think I would see on it because I didn't see them. Also, I was I missed it. >> I just saw Tanya's reply and I was like, "Wait, what is she talking about? Just saw a little little discrepancy. Just a

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little something something." So, so similar situation happened to us in Arlington where someone had control of the lights and they were like putting the lights on and like playing on the fields and we ended up having like this giant light bill and we're like why is

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this light bill so high >> and there was no like lock or like >> there was nothing on there and I was like >> I didn't send it to you I sent it to each I sent it to individual emails and not >> Oh my watching just I don't know. I just

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see I just see your reply. It says, "Oh, >> oh that >> maybe he replied all replied to a group >> or maybe it went to parks. Did you get it through parks or >> Yeah. Oh, no. I was >> see me on it, but I don't see

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>> Okay, thank you. I was curious about them because I can I'm still learning this and I it's hard for me to budget line by line. Dan, did you follow that budget discussion on what she was saying when so there is a there was a a big discrepancy this year compared to what

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it has been for water at Mar Park >> and what happened was a user group or an individual changed the timer >> in the response. >> Yes. So the user group changed the timer setting so it it it went for much longer

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than it was supposed to go. So, our bill ended up being um much higher and it's because it this it wasn't locked. So, he is now locked. >> Okay. >> It's Lake View's coming. >> But that's not what he's saying. >> What are you saying? >> It's like why aren't we trying to figure

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out what group did that something because that's a lot of money that we just spent out >> the pro. So, and I'll counter that with why weren't we checking to see >> that's fair if we knew it wasn't locked. >> Fair. I didn't know it wasn't but I was just curious. >> It's locked now though. Okay, I'm sure

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at home that was the response that I got. >> I'm looking at it right now. >> We initially thought it was a leak in the irrigation system, but it turns out the irrigation controllers weren't lockable and someone changed it to run for 1 hour and 46 minutes per zone for power field, which is about an hour and

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26 power field. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Um, which is about an hour and 26 minutes longer than it should have been. We have since removed the old irrigation controller and installed the lockable one and fixed the programming. That's a nice touch >> on the corner. Is that the little lake field?

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>> Which field is that? >> The dances. >> So yeah. So does that mean someone changed it on purpose or the field would be greener? Who knows? >> We don't know. >> Like what is that? Like >> we don't >> who I don't know. >> Okay.

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>> You don't have camera. >> Well, now that we have a policy and process in place to check our water heaters to be going on there. >> But it was a lot of money. It was like >> eight grand. >> Eight grand. >> And this is something similar happened many years ago. Um and it was before we

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were still a board of three and the DPW director called me and he goes, "Hey, can you call the um water department? We just got a $10,000 bill." I'm like, "Excuse me?" And he's like, "Yeah, you want to give him a call?" >> I'm like, "Sure." >> We we had we had a leak.

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>> That was a leak. And the thing about it is is that typically um if you look at ours, sometimes the um some bills come out of our revolving account. So when stuff like this happens, if it ends up coming out of our revolving account, >> even if it doesn't come out of our

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revolving account, now at the end, if there's no other money, it's going to come from our revolving account. >> Like that's just it's that's a really hard thing to swallow when you're dealing with >> covering somebody's salary that we're doing this year. you know, all I I'm sure that's not the only irrigation

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system that we have. They're all locked now. >> I have no idea. Um, but as you say that, I have a question, another one that I'm not going to publicly say cuz I anybody can go and turn it on. So, >> yeah, that's the other question. If it lets >> which one is

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any of those >> any of those systems, >> I'll send an email right now. Um but yeah, it might be good practice to a lock them and b check >> like on a monthly basis. Um >> yeah, monitor access >> and that does think that that happened

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and that did happen in you know in a town like Arlington which is much larger and it was a lot of money and it did come out of our revolving account and when I was running programming there I was like why should that come out of our revolving account when it's like >> a user? Yeah,

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>> like an outside user that did it because they wanted to play longer. Basically, it was a men's soccer league. >> That's not in our end of our agreement. >> What's that? >> Water. >> No, because I mean anybody could have done it. I mean,

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>> yeah. >> Yeah, we don't have any cameras. >> I mean, at the same time, we had people go down to the >> um 90 foot diamond this year that thought snowblowing the baselines was going to help the situation. All that did was create a river. >> Yeah.

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>> And the water then it folds. So, you know, do do were we able to figure out who they were? Yeah. >> Yes. >> Were they in some way associated with another program? Yes. But they didn't act on behalf of that program. They acted on their own accord. So, you know, >> they were trying to be open.

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>> You know, who knows? >> These people with the lights kept the lights on long so they could play long. Period. Like, it was very And we could we knew when the lights were on and off. So it was easy for us to detect which program obviously that program was no longer allowed to be on the field.

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>> Um then processes go put in place. Um so but yeah that stinks. So that was the only question I had on the budget. >> So so we'll continue to get back in the habit of every other month that the next review would be we get an update again in September.

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>> Yeah. which would be post summer, which would be good to get an idea kind of what we look like. >> And how like All right. So, if that happened, I think it was in October and it and got this in July.

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So, I'm just wondering like how often do we get budgetary? >> We were getting them more frequently and then we kind of stepped away. >> Okay. So, there was and and I'm sure Chris will probably call me next week being like, "I can't believe you said this because you're wrong." Um, and by Chris, I mean Chris,

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not my husband. Um, >> he would never >> the um when we didn't have Christa. >> Yeah. >> Cuz now that we have Christa, she'll be doing all the bills. >> Okay. When we didn't have her,

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when we didn't have her, it was all being siphoned back to the DPW office and Samantha was doing it. >> And I don't know what the communication was like between Sam and Chris. I don't know if she even caught it cuz it's not

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something that she'd be doing all the time. That's right. So, the way the water department works, and too much information in my head, is if there's a leak and there's a ton of usage, they they typically will alert us like right away. It's not something that they typically sit on.

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>> In this case, it seemed to span two >> Yeah. of their billing cycles, which doesn't make any sense to me because one of the billing cycles I would have expected to have had no water on down there because if it was the winter, I don't remember when it gets shut off. So, I

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haven't requested those bills from Chris. I didn't look. I mean, they they came in. So, I mean, if he's on top of it, I trust that he's on top of it. >> And in good defense, like when you're Samantha and you're just paying the bills, you're not looking at the bills. you're not you're going to look at the

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budget and the bills and be like what is this? She's just paying them because that, you know, that was her job. So, >> we have three water district bills or three water district line items all for October 28th. >> Well, that would be um >> one was 162, one was 90, and one was $8,874.

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>> That was she did notice. >> So, it's she did >> Yeah, she did. She did notice those. Um, but I I don't know whether where the communication between Sam and because the total of the um didn't it hit like $10,000.

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>> So, >> not here. It just says 8,000. >> Is there another between the three? >> Then there was another big one like an $1,800 one >> 19 on January 21st 197.

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That's the one that I don't understand. >> Was 3 ft deep, >> right? But I don't know when they're This is my guess. >> They do quarterly. So that's why we get >> Right. So I I have a feeling it was um it was July, August, September is probably the really big one,

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>> right? >> And then October, November, December would be the 1900. And the only reason it was pot was because at that point it couldn't get any higher than 1900 cuz the water had been turned off. So hopefully it wasn't before.

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>> And so like and those are specific to Marshall Field. >> No. So it would be McN. >> Um do we have water at Fitzgerald? I can't remember if we have water. I don't even know if that 19800 is specific to what field. >> No, it >> that would be Marshall. >> It would be Marshall. Okay.

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>> It when the bills come in the bill. >> You can look at the um when the bills come in, it will identify what the location. So maybe on the budget is does it say what field it is on? >> It does. Uh see >> well it's always going to be the biggest thing at Marshall because we've got the

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three. >> So the other two the other two in January 129 $90 and >> but if we had get another field like we don't know which those go to. You know what I mean? If we pulled it like if we asked Chris or Christa to

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>> you said if we saw one of the other ones jump. >> Yes. So I would out of those three like I would be like oh that must be Marshall. That must be Fitzgerald. That must be like cuz Fitzgerald could have a leak and be >> he probably ask >> no between 125 and 9720. I don't know which field is which.

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>> Yeah. So like maybe put on the budget which field which budget item listing goes to which >> Yeah. >> field. Why not? >> I like to look at those things. Plus, if we're using a lot of water, our wash

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product and we're giving this field to like our youth baseball program for next to nothing and we are spending all this money on water like it's a justification to possibly go up on fees >> if we need to. So, we need to like save our department.

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>> They I was they get the fields for a great price. >> They really do. >> They do. And I I do think um hopefully with more active people on the board, this might be the time to start picking them apart to figure out what it truly

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costs us for these fields because as we have had um as we have had groups come in to use our field and they're like, "Oh, we're paying all of this money and we're not getting, you know, class, you

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know, top of the class fields." I don't think we've ever been able to truly articulate what these fields cost us and it would I mean we can't look at the water bill at Marshall and be like little league this is all your usage because it's not because they're not

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they don't use the field you know we have to keep them green and we have to water and there's other people that do use those fields but to understand the true cost of what these fields cost us um is something that some that's something um it could be figured out.

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>> Um so I did email Chris with that question and I CCed everybody on it. So >> um >> but you know having individual fields specifically if we let a large group use them to have those costs and like in our mind when we set

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fees you know even though they're not using it the entirety of the time they are using it a a large amount of the time I feel. Um, youth baseball uses it a lot and doesn't pay that much. Um, so

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it's another justification of being able to prove that we have a maintenance program, we have water usage, we have, you know, things that go into the fields, >> landscape. >> Yeah, I don't know how much >> we can say no leak because there was no bill in March.

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>> No landscaping. I was like, >> we had no water bill in March or April. >> So all of our landscaping is outsourced. does not do it. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Yep. And that's through Lake View. And it's um we actually um >> the contract lists what it costs per

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field like field location. So if we ever wanted to figure out that and then it will um if we go above and beyond that, they bill us above and beyond. And we've always gone >> we've always had them require more mowings than they >> um they've done. So

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>> how long is that contract for? Curiosity. I think we just signed the three-year. >> Okay. >> Um, >> you don't I don't You're just >> So, who signed that? Who signs off? >> Um, Chris Ruth does. Okay. And do we did we have that need? >> We looked at at one point. We looked at

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because it was input from baseball. So, like when Boeings were needed because it wasn't >> I think the former contract didn't detail out like >> when they Saturday or like >> got much more. >> We got a little more specific on that >> not just stressful. I just like

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>> feedback process. >> Yeah, exactly. >> We we had feedback and figure out one thing that road we >> we for a while had to be more reactive than we were proactive because we just didn't know on some things. And this

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last contract, some of it started with um it actually started with the cemeteries and we had um Veterans Day. Veteran No, not Veterans Day. What's Memorial Day? one of the one of the holidays, the big um holidays, Memorial Day it must have been, um it wasn't mode

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and it was a huge to-do and rightfully so. Um and at that point, people started to pay a little bit more attention to what was in contracts and um that sort of thing. >> That makes sense. So, my questions aren't accusatory. They're just I need information.

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>> I like to know information. Um, town beach rename. >> You're on. You're on. You're >> moving forward. Good. >> The beach will be closed by the time we get >> That's why we're gonna have to extend

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the beach. >> I am very determined to make sure it happens over. Now, originally, um, we were targeting August 3rd, um, just with the family, the Jean Nessa's living

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daughter, um, was hoping to, uh, do the ceremony before. I think there's one of the grandsons going off to college and so trying to do that before. Um and then I'm learning just the slow

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wheels of government of uh so um Dillis and Roy had had written a check for the sign and then it had to go to the select board to be accepted >> two meetings ago.

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>> Yes. And then it was accepted. Um but that now the >> the notification never got over to Chris Ruth, the notification from that meeting never went to never left the select board meeting. >> Okay. >> And so and without Chris being able to

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create the the track the path of this documentation, he can't agree to pay it until that's been taken care of. And the problem is that that wasn't didn't come to light until the past few days or the

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end of last week or whatever. and our town accountant is also out on vacation for the next two weeks >> and town manager is out this week. So, him trying to piece some of this together, I don't think it's going to come as fast as he would like.

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>> Yes. Um, so I've been in touch with um, Liz um, and she is saying that it's possible to put it, you know, put it forward a week. >> Um, to try to allow some of that to

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happen. Um, >> what does he go to? Did she say when he goes to school? I wonder if he if we move it a day or two, does that make a difference kind of deal? >> He was willing to go to play soccer, >> you know. I believe he's going to play soccer this time. >> Um, so right now that's the targeting date, the 10th.

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>> Um, >> I was like, we move it to the ninth. Is she still home on the 9th? >> Yeah. >> She she seems to say for most family members the 10th would still work. So >> I don't want to make it more complicated. >> Knock on wood. That that is a good date. >> That may be probably a um it may be a

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better date. Anyway, this last week we had a town band concert sponsored by Peter and Deb Lincoln. It had a fantastic turnout. Their next one is August 3rd. >> So, anybody listening, August 3rd, it's a jazz concert. It's um it's a different

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group of of band people coming in. Uh 7 o'clock at the adult activities. So, >> what time were you thinking? >> Uh I was leaning towards 6 or 6:30. Okay. You know, she she had an evening. Um, you know, want to make sure everybody get is able to get from

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whatever work they have. >> That would be during the day. >> No, she Yeah. So, it' be more evening. Um, so yeah, once we get the we know that the sign is being made, we can I'm

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waiting to get just a picture from um from Liz and doing all the social media and the the emails and the flyers and stuff. So that that'll happen once we have the date. The date is like the key

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thing. And so hopefully within the next that is the date. >> Was the picture that Chris sent is that going to be the sign. >> Oh, but the 26 that was another thing. 265.

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>> Don't worry, I saw it this morning. 265. But that that's the sign. I was just going to Yeah. >> So, the sign that um >> Chris sent out this morning, for anybody who hasn't seen it, that's what it is. But there was >> there was um >> um >> I I saw like three different versions of

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what the addresses. >> Yeah. So, um that's >> a couple years back we were cleaning the weed, meaning I was cleaning the outside of the beach house and realized the sign actually had this the street address on the sign and the street address on the pole were two different

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>> things. a resounding. Yeah. >> So, it happened to be okay, though, because the half the numbers on the sign were coming down. So, I recut the vinyl numbers for the sign, fixed the sign, and then Chris called me this morning and he's like, what's the address of the beach house? I'm like, I think it's 265.

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Prospect, you sure it's not 267? I'm like, I don't know. Let me go drive by. >> So, I went and drove by. >> It could be. I drove by online. Potentially, >> potentially, but it needs to have we need one consistent address in case

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somebody has to call the ambulance up front. So, um I drove by this the sign that I fixed a few years back says 265 prospect. The numbers on the post are 265. The um the GIS says 265. So, 265

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>> 265 in those Christa does not have to stay for the rest of this meeting. I know. I was going to ask as soon as you guys done. >> So you can put in the pencil the the time. >> Let me know how you're let me know how the meeting goes for school. I'm very

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>> Yes, I will. Yeah. >> We're behind you on that >> if you need any reinforcements. >> No, I got you. >> Chris needs >> chair and vice chair.

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>> Yeah. I've had I've had enough interaction. >> I've had no interactions with the school. But if you need call for counsel help here, >> but you know, no interaction that is >> I also have no history with them. So

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>> that could be a good thing. Why it makes it a good thing because last year we did go in um Angela and I did go in and sat down with the current superintendent and had a sort of a pow-wow on like what the history of this was and and everybody

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got on to the same page. So, she has the history. She doesn't need anything. So, clean slate's not a bad idea. >> Yeah, >> it might be a who knows who knows what kind of slope he's like lately. So, >> Christ,

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>> um that's great. All right, keep us posted. What you need if if it makes once we get the date locked even or even if we I mean I'm hesitant to put a save the date until we get it locked. Thank you, Trista. Um, I'm hesitant to put a save the data, but we can create a like I jump on Cam and just create a simple

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save scenario, whatever. Just a kind of deal. >> Yeah, I put it in my C. It's in my calendar, but we can >> as soon as we know I'll like if you >> if you're not Canva proficient or >> whatever, but we can do a simple I don't have the paid Canva, but I have a

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>> a free Canva and we can >> just create something simple and okay >> to push a save the day kind of >> till we get something more. >> Yeah. I already have some names that need to be contacted on a personal level

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and versus for the community. So, >> um just ready to jump in once we get the date. >> Did you reach out to anybody on the select board to ask for um >> certificate or whatever. Did you get a response? >> Yeah. No. >> Okay. >> But I can push that again.

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>> Was it Did he send it to Renee or did he >> reply back to Maryanne, please? pass the text that's on right now. >> She was gonna be quiet. >> Oh, >> um with the 300th anniversary scenario

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here, uh real quick, um New Year's Eve going into 2028. The talk is to do some small fireworks display >> um just to kind of ring in the ring in the new year and kick off the 300th

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anniversary year celebration. Um and talking about space and usage of open space to to do a small fireworks display. >> Um Marshall Park would be one they they asked if that would be feasible

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potentially to use. They ideally would like to use I think school has been the topic of discussion. There's been some sounds like some resistance from the school at this point to >> liability issues. I mean >> uh it's no it's no >> Is it just fireworks display or is there

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something else going >> No. No. Not going to New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve is strictly Yeah. >> So people would just watch it from wherever they're doing >> the idea would be a gathering center. >> Okay. >> It's still in the works. There may be a small sort of whatever mill about

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>> center of town going into 2028. So New Year's Eve December >> 31st 2027 going into January 1st 2028. >> They may be able to pivot depending on what goes on with the Pasios building. Like they may be able to come up with a plan right now for space that we have

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available but depending on what direction we go with that Pasio's building that could end up being an empty lot later. So, >> yeah, >> and that's under the control of the selection. >> So, Marsha would not be their first choice, but it would be >> it'd be a back a back they asked if we

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could if we were open to it being a backup >> option or at least have it nothing else would be going on in the park on December 21st in 2027. But, >> um but ideally the thought is center of town coming up so people can gather in the center of town.

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>> Okay. Marshia would be the next logical spot because they come up and they would still be visible over the town hall that nature of it. So, okay. >> Um open space committee. So, we have an the

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town has an open space uh committee. Uh we typically have had an appointee to go to those meetings. Has anyone had a chat? I know we talked about briefly last meeting. Has anyone had thought of looking at that? I have had a committee firing briefly.

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>> I cannot attend. I am on too many committees. >> They're coming up. I'm just wondering >> always consider pushing out. >> They have a meeting once a month. Let's see. >> So, they're they're meeting in um that

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was held in July. They just they discussed the revisions to the open space acquisition criteria. Um and that was really all. So, doesn't sound like they have anything major on their board at the moment. doesn't mean nothing will pop up. But

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>> July, yeah, July 8th was the last. >> You should have gotten a response from Renee M on July 10th. >> You should have gotten a response from um Renee on July 10th. >> Oh, things happen. Shaking. >> Wow.

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>> I think I can make that commitment. Looks like they meet the first day of the week. >> Dan, you have I I just >> That was a Wednesday. I'm throwing this out there. Enjoy a Wednesday. >> You'll never get back. You have a senior

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in high school. Her lasts always have to come first. Just >> Oh, I I'm well aware of that. >> Yes. >> Are you an upcoming senior in high school? >> Yes, I Yeah. >> Nice. Is this your last one in high school? >> No, my first one in high school.

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>> Oh, okay. So, you have younger? >> Yeah. And then I've got Yeah, I've got an 8-year-old, a 5-year-old, and a 2-year-old. >> So, you might be the best person to sit in a spoken situation because you have >> people at the schools, >> but the senior's not in Lunberg schools. They go to they're at Quava Regional. So,

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>> Oh, nice. Nice. >> The draft. Yeah. Chorus concerts are uh fun. Well, we've all been there, done that. We've always changed our schedules like parks is always >> It looks like second they do It looks

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like they're doing second Wednesdays. >> Yeah. >> And that's We're not second Wednesdays. >> No, we're fourth >> or fourth. >> Fourth. >> Unless you're the ZBA and your second Wednesday and fourth Wednesday. >> Yeah. So I don't think that >> and I don't think it's nights are

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>> not critical to be at every >> meeting kind of like you know it's it's more like >> you can also look at the agenda see what's on decide whether to go or >> they're 100% too >> oh yeah then that's the case yeah

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>> and they met at 7:30 this last time >> yeah 7:30 p.m. I I I definitely have >> you like Do you know Mike Tuhill? He's he's he's awesome. He's a great guy and he's been chairing for a while. I'm assuming he's gone back to chair. could

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be wrong, but >> that's what it says on the I don't know how accurate that how up to date that is, but I had to take call off the last letter. So on

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>> she's listed on there, but she >> she's listed on >> you know, I don't think I notified her. When I notified everybody that our things changed, I didn't even think about open space. So, I'm going to guess he doesn't even know that she's not with us anymore. >> Okay, I can send a message after.

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>> Perfect. >> I'll send a message to them to >> Thank you. We We don't need a motion on that, do we? A motion. No, you for Dan, you can I'll make a motion to appoint Dan to the um open

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space committee um as our as our park represent. >> All in favor? >> I uh approval of minutes. We had two meeting minutes in the share draft. May 27, May June 24th. Did anyone have any?

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>> I do. Um, so the May ones I can't open. Um, I'm sure I've read them and they're fine, but I I couldn't open it. Um, yeah. So, my request is um at the that's the meeting that I arrived late to. So, he has it in the

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body of the meeting. if we could remove it from the body of the meeting and put it up next to my name. Just put um 7:30 PM arrival. >> June. >> Yep. The June one. Um and then um further down he has um

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that I encouraged commission me or I encourage people to go to the beach, which I did, but it would be I think I'd like to see it says that I encourage commission members to go down to the beach to check it out and meet our staff. >> Right. It just seemed like I am just encouraging people to go to the beach

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and I'm like, >> which is great. Also, >> um, how do you typically I mean just point of do you typically send him a message to move it or you just >> you just you just >> do you have are you able to edit? If you're not I can do it. I

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>> think so. >> I usually copy and paste. So, I usually copy and paste that whole document onto the town letterhead onto the um the the minutes. >> I was going to edit edit it first or not. >> You can do whatever you want. However you want to do it, it's fine. It's

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>> you say approved and amended, right? With the response. >> Yeah. >> So, next to me abs after members absent, you would say just put you arriving. You just put it next to member. Just put parentheses arrived at 7:30. >> Yeah. >> Right.

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>> Y >> and then it's further down in the body. That way people know that there were portions of it that I didn't vote on as they start reading it from the beginning. They realize I wasn't there from the beginning. >> Do you Does it stay where he added it as well? >> You can leave it there or you can just

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take it out whatever you want. >> I Oh, sorry. His name's Anthony. He does the um he's the minutes taker for parks. >> Okay. Anthony Sensei. >> So when I yelled at the screen the other the last meeting, I'm like, just so you know,

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>> I showed up at 7:30. That's who I was talking to. >> That's Karen say that she encourages the commissioners. >> Yeah. go to the right. That's how we need to say Karen. >> Yep.

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>> Commission members to go to the town beach. >> Yeah. >> To meet staff. We'll see how thrust of it. >> Yeah. Whatever. Just something in there that didn't make it seem like I was like, "Yeah, everybody go to the town beach. That'd be nice if y'all want to go party.

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>> See operation. >> Okay. >> Open the May ones. I don't know why. >> They It just spins. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I couldn't open both. >> Yeah. >> I read the May cuz I they had come into

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us already. So, >> you initially couldn't get it because we weren't in the fair share drive. >> Oh, that's why. But now you're >> now and I'm in the share drive and I could open June and I but I couldn't open May. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And also there's still April is still in there is pending.

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>> It looked like there were minutes for May. >> I only had two. >> I thought I saw three. So I only have the 10 minutes in the share. >> You I could have Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You can't You can't open that.

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You have a me. >> Yes, please. >> Please. >> Mark it. Maybe that's my problem. >> Marian, you can see. Can you get in the share drive? Okay. You are. >> Yes.

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>> Okay. just said >> I just said send that to you >> because when I even go into the uh you know >> Oh, I was just saying April's because I had looked at them recently. So, it was in my recent >> my recent things

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>> because I had looked at it last month. >> That's helpful. That gets you in. Let's see. But you can't open Why would you? >> I don't I can open one and not the other. >> I don't know. But I don't I don't remember having any chance. I read them previously. So,

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>> and Dan, you read them? >> Yes. >> And Marian, were you able to read them? >> So, I let me I'll make a motion to accept both the to accept the May 2026 minutes and the June 2026 minutes as amended >> for June.

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>> I just it that works. I have a second. >> Second. Oh, I can't second. >> We can't second. >> Oh, what happened? >> Did you second? Second. >> Okay. >> We're just really excited. >> I was trying to read the minutes real

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fast. >> All in favor? >> I posted. No. Um, chair report. Uh, not much to report. Skatepark. Um they're not on the agenda tonight because their their lawyers

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talked with our lawyer and they're going over that um agreement. >> Um hopefully I pointed out the next meeting date we have in August that would be their target. They hope to be here in August to get that final I should get that squared away. >> Um

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uh no real other updates um I think from my end at this point. think of upcoming meeting dates. We're already scheduled for August 26th our next date.

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>> I will not be here this morning. >> Not here for August 26th. I think uh beyond that the fourth meeting fourth Wednesday in September would be the 20. Yeah, it would be the 23rd if we want to put a couple of dates

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>> for September. >> That's the fourth. That is >> over. >> That is that. So, that's the first summer over meeting. >> So, I'm not here on September 23rd. >> Same. I don't think I will be either. >> Okay. So, we can do that date. >> Well, I mean, if you if the three you can do

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>> we could do three, but it'd be >> I could probably I actually I'll just I'll be out of town for work, but I could attend via Zoom. >> So, I could three Um, is the 30th better for people?

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>> Yes. For me, >> not for me. >> You're just not help at all. >> Sorry. >> She's on too many commissions. >> It's not because of that. >> Is this going in the minutes? I better stop making >> He's good at He's good at cutting them

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out. >> And then Tanya's head. >> Talks too much. Yeah, exactly. >> Aaron knows too much. She needs >> Oh my goodness. >> Um, if the 30th is better for people, I'm behind with 30. It doesn't pay me.

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>> Um, but that's easier, but that's fine. >> Okay. >> So, we can say the 30th. Um, and I'll have to talk to you about reserving the room later, changing that. >> And it shouldn't be a problem because it's um >> um a fifth. >> It's the fifth. It's the fifth. So it it

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would just go to town park. So you can and you can just email Alan directly. She'll let you know. And I would do it probably sooner than later that you're in. >> 17th. >> Um any other business? I don't think we have any other business.

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>> Whoever Jen was got tired of waiting called. >> Yeah, Jen. I don't know what Jen H manager didn't answer me. So I >> She's just here on the slide hanging up. >> No, >> Sarah was they were on for quite a while. There was a riveting

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conversation. >> Wonder if it was Jared Bowser if he was logged into somebody else's >> because um he typically he join a lot. So it's possible he's like she's gone. I could go. Kristen's gone. I I can go. >> Yeah.

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>> Um any board of public comment? I will make a motion to adjourn 854 seconds. >> All in favor? >> I thank you. Stop.

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Thank. Yes. I stop.