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Part 1 (Video ID: 8usm4uHzje8):
- 00:00:05: Meeting Opening, Roll Call, No Public Comment
- 00:02:31: Review and Approval of March Meeting Minutes
- 00:03:48: Manager's Monthly Report - Budget and Updates
- 00:05:11: Network Switcher, Storage Space, Studio Packing
- 00:09:01: Key Code Media Casters Quote Discussion Begins
- 00:14:12: FY27 Budget Submitted; Salary and Payroll Review
- 00:18:40: Legal Fees, Indirect Costs, Operational Expenses
- 00:22:58: Revenue, Investments, Budget Shortfall Explained
- 00:26:26: Retained Earnings & Warrant Article Discussion
- 00:31:28: Key Code Media Quote - Four Channel System
- 00:35:24: Mobile App Annual Subscription Questioned
- 00:38:33: Mobile App, Roku, Apple TV Channel Options
- 00:41:53: Mobile Streaming Impact on Cable Negotiations
- 00:44:05: Cost Migration, ADA Requirements, Professional Services
- 00:47:57: Supplies Line Item Budget Concerns for Casters
- 00:51:10: Mobile App, Apple Programming Program Confusion
- 00:55:16: 63,000 Dollar Question; Mobile App Options
- 01:00:12: Features Importance, Data, & Channel Evaluation
- 01:02:58: Pack Policy, Studio Space and Other Updates
- 01:04:55: Any Other Business, Motion to Adjourn Meeting


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In accordance with the requirements of the meeting law, please be advised that this meeting of public access cable committee is being recorded and will be uploaded to the Lunberg access YouTube after the meeting. This meeting is being

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for in-person rather than virtual attendance according. Zoom meeting information is in the notice. The agenda lists all the topics which may be discussed at the meeting and are those reasonably anticipated by the chair.

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Votes may be taken as a result of these discussions. uh not all items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by the open meeting

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law. So roll call Brian are you here? >> I am >> excellent and faith you are here >> here and I'm here Steve Walker chair Joe is here right? Yes.

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>> Um, Steve Ash Clark is not here tonight. Had a previous engagement. Brian is our secretary pro 10. Any public comments? Not any.

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Any permitting comments? hearing. None. Moving right along. Any communications? No. >> Oh, this is getting exciting. >> They need to review and approve the meeting minutes from the March meeting

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which was on the second which Steve has sent out. had a quick look through them. >> I didn't see anything at all. >> Oh, I found one. >> Oh, did you? >> Oh, yeah. >> Actually, it's interesting

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because there's a date of uh where are we? The studio space. It says DC Pacios is closing as of June the 31st. The good news is June doesn't have a 31st, so it's going to stay open forever.

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So if you're the secretary, you need to note that some else. Anybody see anything? >> I don't see any spelling mistakes or anything motion. >> Make a motion to accept the minutes as

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submitted. >> Oh, with as amended with a big change. I will second that motion. >> And any further discussion here in none favor say I >> I thank you. And the next thing on this magic sheet

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of paper is the manager's monthly report. >> Okay. This is Joe Tol speaking. Um I don't have a lot listed for this month because most of this month was spent on the budget um doing budget work with the

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town manager. Um we had a shortfall in our salaries line item uh for the remain excuse me for the remainder of the fiscal year. By the end

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of the year, we'll have a shortfall of $6,000 >> this present fiscal year >> this present fiscal year FY26. So, um I did some line item transfers from other line items today. Um,

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specifically from our new equipment line, $ 36.50. Um, from our advertisement line, $350. Um, and $2,000 from our equipment

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maintenance and supplies line item, all equaling up to $6,000. So, we'll make it till the end of the year. >> Okay. Um, I'll go through the budget momentarily because that's part of part

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of my report. Um, I may have mentioned this last meeting, but we took a loner networker networking switch network switcher um, from AERS that we're using in the control room to see if that alleviated

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the audio problems we're having. Um, we've had we had one glitch. I'm not sure if that counts as much, but um really there have been no audio issues to date. So, we're going to need to replace our network switcher

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>> costing >> in the $2 to $300 range. >> Just want to >> Yeah. Yeah. Um I've been checking out the storage space that I gave you the map of. Um,

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that's at town hall. >> Oh, did you not hear one? >> I think I did not. >> Oh. >> Um, it's going to it's going to work, but it's going to need work.

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>> Thank you. >> Yeah. where it says outlet in your handwriting I think. >> Yeah. >> Does that not exist at the moment or that's just a note to say there is one >> it does exist there. >> It does exist. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. It it's going to be a tight squeeze. Um >> the small equipment is that ours or that? >> Ours. >> Okay. >> Carts are hours. Tool chest is ours. cameras, chargers, or hours.

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>> Yeah, >> but I will inquire about a table. >> I don't know how large it can be, but >> No, the space is rather small. This makes it look a little bit bigger than it is,

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but I will look into a table. Um, >> does it have air conditioning or does that have to be put in? It does have air conditioning. >> Yeah. >> Under the window it looks like. >> Um we'll be packing up the studio in

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April. Um the studio equipment storage will be at the Eagle House. However, that's unconfirmed as of yet. The town manager said that's where she was looking, but um I haven't heard anything more about

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it. >> Was that the second floor? >> Yes. They have an elevator. >> No. >> Springs. I mean, some of that stuff's not lightweight. >> Well, we're going to I'm going to

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request that we get help from facilities to move our stuff. I'm I believe they do help with that sort of thing. So, >> I'm a little confused. This is the server room, which is going to be where?

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>> In town hall. in town hall. >> Yeah, that storage is for videographer equipment. Equipment that they take out all the time to use. >> Yeah. >> The Eagle House would be basically packing up our studio and its contents

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and storing it there. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Um, and the last thing on my list is the key code media casters quote, which I'd like to go over. So, if you um if you take a

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look at the packet I sent you, the current balance, and this is with the last Comcast um fee paid to us,

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which was 39781.90. >> That was actually posted. >> That was posted. >> Okay. Oh, I I'm sorry. No, that was not posted. >> No, that was not posted. I added it into the >> notice the number. >> Yeah, I added it into the number and

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>> I just want to >> and it worked out. >> So, we're at 100 I'm sorry, not 100. We're at a,77, 340.59. And of course, second page is just um confirming that. And the

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town financial page is here. If you try to reconcile it, you'll be off by the 39,781 Comcast payment. >> Some of this is highlighted. >> Um that was just my for my purposes.

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Yeah, I was off and it turned out I didn't have the interest added in. So, had to go back and do that. >> Um, the program analysis, the colorful sheet, um, we're at 80% local

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programming, which is where I really like to be. >> That's great. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's really, really good. And we're up to a total programming of 112 programs so far this year. 90 of them local.

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>> Wow. >> Yeah. >> Very good. Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Okay. After the program analysis, there is a document called FY26 pack projection expenses for

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salaries and payroll videographers. These are just the sheets I used to um to figure out if we were going to make it by the end of the year with our expenses. So I have our projected salaries on the right side there right

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underneath the date um what I have projected for April, May and June for the year and then I subtracted that on the left side from what we had budgeted for

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FY26 which was $102,100 And it's actually going to come to projected to come to 107,892. So it's almost $6,000 off.

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And below that um on the left side transfers to salary line item which I just mentioned. >> Yeah, >> that was transferred over. If you go down to the second part of the sheet, payroll videographers,

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um they are going to make it um we're going to make it on that line item by almost $3,000 projected. That is >> any questions?

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>> Is there still money left for us and wasn't all of it? >> Um, >> shouldn't >> No, they both had they both had uh a couple of thousand dollars in there. That's what I

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>> However, finance closed them out in order to do the transfer. >> Don't understand that concept. >> Well, I didn't either until I met this

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morning with them. Basically, they liquidated the PO and that money went back into line item um 54 >> 1018.

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>> It went into Yeah. 541018 supplies. >> I asked about >> continuing purchases. We haven't lost the money. But if we want to buy it from B&H now that's all process >> we have to create a PO

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>> so >> okay >> so the next page is our budget which was submitted the orange column is the final column As you can see, we have 108,000 for salaries and

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40,785 for payroll videographers. And the longev longevity pay is a one-time payment um to myself for my years of service.

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>> Oh, which we >> Thank you. um going down so that so the salaries and the longevity come to 150,675 below that equipment maintenance and

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lease. This is the lease. We are going to rent studio space in the new fiscal year. So we needed to fund that line item. It was $6,000 and now it's $12,000

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at about $1,000 per month. >> That's the best number we can come up with, I think. >> Right. >> This is for the use of the studio and all the equipment in the studio, >> right? >> Shoot and match.

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>> Yes. The $1,600 is purchase of services, which is our bulletin administrator consultant. That's Travis Faulk. Um, we I was going to do away with that, but um

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>> I'd like to, you know, that's um that's about five hours of his time, >> but it keeps the line open. >> Yes. That matters. >> Yes. advertising I

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did away with because we haven't used it. It was originally uh put there for um >> logo clothing and >> well on the ledger put stuff in the >> Yeah. Yeah.

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Now we now I send information to the Sentinel and Enterprise >> and it's free. I send >> I send our um >> our programming highlights to them every week. >> I lately it's been every month because

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we don't have a lot of new shows. So >> uh but I am in touch with them and so we didn't really need advertising >> office supplies without a studio without an office. Um, I'm not sure where my office is going to

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be yet. Um, there was some talk about the Ritter, but I'm not sure yet. Um, then >> does Eric as well? >> Yeah, he should. Yeah. >> What's the other supplies? the other

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supplies that is um on our reports from the town. It's equipment maintenance and supplies. >> This line is critical because this is

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the line I purchase the music license that we use from. This is the line that I order B&H from, Amazon from. But as you'll see in a few minutes when we go over the um the

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castis quote, there's a yearly subscription fee and it's quite a lot and it's going to have to come out of this line item. >> So that line item is very important. Going to the next line item, new

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equipment. Um we brought that down to 5,000. We're not because we don't have a studio. Um, you know, we're not we're not anticipating a lot of activity out of that account.

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Um, legal fees. Um, we're going to be starting the cable advisory committee and, um, PAC has to pay for the lawyer. Um, I got a quote, a very loose quote. It

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wasn't in stone of around 12. I believe it was $12,000 for the year for the >> Yeah, it was it was around 10 or 12. Um, so we broke that into two years. So

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6,000 a year. Um, now comes the indirect cost. It came in at 20,972. If you go to the next page, you'll see a calculation

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on the top of the sheet which gives um the salaries, the Medicare taxes, the health insurance, the workman workman's comp, the retirement, and life insurance

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for myself, for Eric Foster, and for the videographers. I get life insurance. >> Um, Jen actually filled this in, so I guess I guess so.

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>> You know what? That that really is curious. >> Good choice of word, right? I assume they do get workers come. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let me look into that. The 395.

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She said she recalculated it all and it came to 2972. >> That doesn't sorry doesn't make sense. Did the health insurance raise not come in as big as we expected? It was like

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22% or something. >> Right. It came in at 8 something. So >> eight. >> Yeah. Or eight or up somewhere up to nine. >> It was quite a difference from what would be >> it was quite a difference. >> It was quite a difference. So that's

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I'll I'll check into the indirect costs a further. >> I understand why this is so different from 26. >> Well, indirect costs >> given that they're essentially derived from salary. >> Mhm.

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um plus the well no I just come the health insurance but the others are generally algorithmic from salaries. What isn't it similar to the 40,000 we've been paying 32,000 or whatever it is. I'm just

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confused specializ >> it was it was probably the health insurance difference. No, no, it's gone back. The indirect costs on your very transit sheet

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uh should be there some minimum indirect costs and the total already oh this is nominally for the whole year that's the way they did it is uh 31,000

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I'm just trying to understand how it went down Is it 22,000? >> 20,972. >> That's close. But I mean, which is a minor miracle. Should go all to the east just in case.

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So either something has been flawed or is flawed, but they're not consistent. >> I will look into that. Thank you. Um then

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the total no I'm sorry the um operation expenses are 67 172 added with the 150 under salaries is 21784.

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47 is the total expense. And if you go to user charges at 152,000, that was estimated based on

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$39,000 a quarter coming from Comcast. That's the franchisee. >> Yeah. >> Our investment income we estimated a little bit lower um at 20,000.

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>> That's a lot lower. We have 35,000 from Bartholomew 12,000. So from the town being Main Street Bank as far as we so it's gone down from

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47,000 to 20,000 but that's less than half. So >> we discussed that in that meeting. >> We did and not thrilled with the result. Okay. So, um our revenue for PEG access

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with the use I'm sorry not user charges with the investment income interest and user charges comes to 177,000 in revenue.

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So that 5,000 there is actually the interest on the rest of our money, >> right? >> It's just these name. Okay. So it's the 35,000 from went down to 20, >> right?

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>> Just so we're on the same page. Okay. So the delta what we're the shortfall as you can see at the bottom is 40,84755. It >> should be clear this does not include the casters. Correct.

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>> That does not include the cast. The cast is going to be a separate capital request that will come from our retained earnings. This will also come from our retained earnings. But >> has she changed the name?

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>> Well, let's go to >> I thought she said we couldn't use this for operation retain. >> She did not want to. >> That's a different statement. >> If you go to the second to last page,

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here's a sample of the warrant. >> Oh, really? So if you can read the the summary, this is the annual appropriation of expected PEG revenues and available funds to support PEG access operations

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in FY27. The PEG fund is separate from the town's general operating budget and must be self-supporting, meaning cable related revenues and available funds must cover peg access expenses each year. The planned motion is to appropriate 177,000

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from PEG access and cable related revenues and to transfer 40,84755 from retained earnings for a total of for a total FY2027 PEG operating budget of $217,84755.

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Next paragraph is about the Castis PAC is also seeking to replace the Cast Castis system software and server used to broadcast pack programming. The current system is at end of life and the estimated replacement costs is $70,000.

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A transfer from retain earnings will be requested at town meeting to fund this purchase. The vendor has advised that due to tariffs, pricing is expected to increase by 15 to 20% as of July 1st. Therefore,

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this article seeks to authorize a purchase in FY 2026. >> This is one warrant was best two. >> I think it's combined. Oh, I see what they've done. Okay.

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And if it doesn't pass, what happens? Okay. >> Does anybody have any questions on the budget? I've asked anyone else. It's pretty bare bones. I mean it looks

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like a lot but um you know 70 well If I remember correctly, even if the cast isn't completely installed by the

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30th of June because it's uh budgeted and committed in FY26, that's still okay. We don't have to do anything. It still comes from FY26. >> Yeah. I need to meet with um Julie.

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She's the chief procurement officer. >> Oh, is she? >> Yes. Because >> Oh, that way. Okay. >> Yeah. Because there's details I need to discuss with her about, you know, you have to pay 50% upfront and and so

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forth. And I just want to make sure that we do it correctly. >> That would be good. >> Yeah. Um >> we we can we don't have to do multi- quote situation because we're upgrading

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existing system, right? Just again want to make sure. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, I have a copy of the Keycode Media, the vendor who sells us the cast. I have their quote in front of you.

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It's hot off the presses. Um, if we if you want to go through each page, so on the second page, I wonder why they call it the four channel, but they say >> between one and two, there's a paragraph that

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>> Yeah. Now you said as a whole next year that you year after next. >> Yeah. >> So the first thing listed it's pretty self-explanatory is the cast it itself at $34,895.

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The number two upgraded motherboard. That's the one I was questioning because you only need that if you have a 4 channel system

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and you wanted a three channel system upgradable to four and this looks like it's already created as a four but not enabled as a four yet. >> Right. So do you want to request that taken off? I I don't know because my

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suspicion is if you take it off either the upgrade will be way more difficult or um it won't work at all. >> We should probably leave it in there. >> Yeah. >> Especially the way computer prices are gone. >> Yeah.

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>> Probably a year later it might just be. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Number three is one year support and maintenance including training hours. This is really important to have it. Um,

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it is a yearly fee. So, that's always going to every year it'll be a $1,795 fee, part part of the fee. >> Um, number four, video on demand and

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live streaming, three channels. Um that's just as it says video on demand and live streaming the what what we currently do with our castus right now to do live meetings and um

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except we're adding video on demand. So there'll be a self-contained site with all of our videos. Presently we use that through YouTube

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they give us that effective service >> but this will be in the cloud. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> YouTube cloud too. >> Yeah. Number five is um 500 500 hours of live

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close captioning hours. We paid in 250 hour units. Um the first quote they gave us was for 250 hours of live close captioning, but

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we have so many meetings and >> so many hours. We may even have to go above the 500 at some point, but >> to start off purchasable, >> right? It's an operations cost as well. >> Right. Right.

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Um, number six, content delivery via mobile app to viewers. And it mentions it's an annual subscription spelled wrong. At $2,90.

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My opinion on this is you need to think long and hard. Do you really want to spend 20 20 $2,90 um every year,

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but it's a mobile app where people can watch the channel on their cell phone if they want to. What I don't know is if you have to have that if you want number eight. They seem to me to be related to each

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other. If you want us to have a a branded Oh, it's fighting. you want to have a branded Lunenburgg video on Apple TV

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so that people can stream it. I suspect because this is you know I haven't just worked this one out. >> Yeah. >> I suspect that when they say a mobile app um it's I think it's the other way around. It's to support mobility. It isn't an app you get and put on your

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phone. >> Oh, right. Right. I >> think so. >> Well, it says mobile app. Yeah, but you can interpret that both ways because he didn't put the offset comma >> or any apostrophes which wouldn't help either.

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>> Yeah. >> So that's this would be instead of YouTube. >> Well, the video on demand would be instead of YouTube. Number four would be instead of YouTube. >> Yeah. So we actually wouldn't upload to view

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>> we would upload to our video on demand >> page. Yeah we Okay. So uh what about our archive? Is that the NAS? We've been using YouTube as an archive as well. >> Yes.

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>> Does VOD represent an archive or does it have a No, it's up there for a year. I don't know. I believe I believe it's an archive, but let me find out. And the other question you had was if

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the mobile app was related to >> Yeah, if you have to have it for number eight, which is the I'm presuming we want to do that or do we want a discussion on that? What this does is it creates a channel essentially for our

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videos that you can get through your own subscriptions that you already have uh through Roku, Fire TV, Apple TV, Fire TV, Amazon. That's a one time three. Yeah.

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>> Yeah, that setup is a one time. that >> I have a well we should check with him >> okay >> that's the royal means >> we can call him now in the meeting >> uh I wouldn't >> okay

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>> but thank you >> okay I will find out >> the content migration >> well the next thing is number seven >> which is the RTMP stream we use this quite a lot when we do remote

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um broadcast town meeting. Um now that doesn't go live but we do record to the cast so we need to connect to it. Um sports sports um yeah this is very important

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>> is one sufficient I I'm not this is not my area >> one persistent yeah >> if we have basketball and the school committee meeting at the same time >> will we decide which is more important >> oh

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>> unless we want to buy a second >> well that's why >> persistent key >> bringing it up. See, they're two different channels, you know, from our perspective as well. Be a channel 8,

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channel 9 and channel 22. Probably the sports you put on two channels. Okay. >> Let me find out if if >> that will work on two different channels >> simultaneously.

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At the same time you say it's redundant again >> I I have a feeling it will not because it's persistent key and it's only pointing to one place

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precisely >> but we haven't really come across two things that we need remotely done at the same time but I I want to cover it now, not later. >> Yeah. >> Gets to be an issue later,

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>> right? Okay. Um, number eight, we talked a little bit about it's a fully branded channel on Roku, Fire TV, and Apple TV. He didn't tell me if

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that was one channel or all of our channels. I'm assuming it's one channel. >> Oh, I'm not see it's any of our videos. They may not be organized by channel, you know, 8 922,

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but it I would have thought it was all of our stuff, but yes, check please. >> Okay. And >> now, how is this item going to impact our negotiations with cable

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provider? Well, if we say we're going to be streaming, isn't that undercutting their their business? >> Oh, no, no, no, no. They

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cont gets paid for the internet service. >> They may have packages and things. I understand. But you picking on you as an example, >> generic view, if you subscribe to Fire

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TV, then within the Fire TV environment, you would find our stuff branded with our name, >> right? So you could try and get there. Not making sense. It looks like you're sort of confused. No.

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>> Well, it's just that you know, >> but they didn't change any of the monies except for one thing, which it does do. If the streaming bill comes through when people would be paying uh depends how they do it but if uh if

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you get uh Apple TV >> Mhm. >> part of that fee would come to us directly nothing to do with Comcast. >> Okay. >> Um as a kind of tax on the streaming service.

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So this actually I'm not totally thrilled with this as I've mentioned to Joe before that uh the people who presently pay um the franchise fee uh are the ones who have video services because it's an old

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law and that's the way it's set up. Um this and not only this but even YouTube and do we use Facebook Live as well? I'm not sure. >> Yeah, we do. Yeah. the um people can see our stuff which is

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fine because you know if you're in England on a canal boat you can watch it there but they don't give us anything at all we don't get anything >> on the other hand where I'm torn is we also want to get our information out

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there our programming meetings >> so it was designed and put into law uh before We have the internet which I used to use. Shows you how old

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my first email message was in the early >> 70s September. >> So that's >> Sorry, was that okay, Faith? >> Okay. >> So that's the services. Number nine is

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the cost to migrate our our retiring server to to the next cast which comes at a cost of 1490 >> and that's a one time >> that's a one time. >> Yeah.

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The next page has um as you as it's titled professional services. Oh, actually, if you go up above that notice of the ADA requirement new services, um we're going to be mandated

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to have um delivery of WCAG audio descriptive services for all repeat playout of streamed content beginning April 2026 for stations with 50,000 viewers or more, viewers with less than

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50,000 and date is April 26, 2027. Castis solution includes less than seven includes less than seven minutes per hour turnaround and AI generated audible description for the site appeared per

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ADA. They're still developing their audio descripting service. Um, one thing that I I talked to uh Robert about and I cannot find my notes,

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but basically it's the audio description service is going to be just like the closed caption service where you by a certain amount of time and then that

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comes out. He mentioned think of it like a bucket and you have a certain amount of hours in there >> and then you pay cast per >> this is not real time

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read it carefully. Yeah, >> descriptive audio descriptive services um in they call it repeat play out. So you process it after you've had the meeting. It's not while the meeting is happening,

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>> right? >> Otherwise, you know, some of the meetings or the descriptive service would say this is getting boring. >> So, a year away. >> It is a year away. >> Doesn't really have. So,

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>> Right. Right. um the professional services, installation, materials and hardware and travel and mileage for his training. >> When you say his training, his training of us, >> he's going to do some training. >> Mhm.

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>> Of us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, I'm not paying for his training. >> No, I I know it sounded like that. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> Yeah. >> My job >> for him to do training for us. Um, and

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that comes to $4,272. Project notes. This is what this is the number that concerns me. Um, because if you go back to the budget, the line item

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that this would come out of is the supplies line item which is $20,000. If we get the full package, it's it's 12,355, leaving us less than $8,000 to pay for everything else that we have

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to pay for. So that that's a steep that in my in my opinion and and you guys need to make up your mind that's a steep amount of money every year to to pay. Um

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so keeping that in mind going through the page two we have to think about what we really really want. I mean the VOD and live streaming we need to have number four under Castis

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cloud-based services we need to have video and live streaming for three channels. Number five, we need to have 500 hours of live close captioning hours. >> That's coming in the ADA issue. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> Number six, the mobile app for viewers. That that's an option. If you feel strongly about it, we can, you know, leave it in the quote. If you

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don't, then it would take off 2,90 from the total quote. And also, we wouldn't have to pay 290 every every year to have that. Now, if you feel like it's important for people to

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have it on their mobile devices, that's entirely up to you. >> Yeah, it's Well, it does do that. It also means it uh if you're in a hotel somewhere and you have an Apple subscription and watch it

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on the hotel TV, it's not just for mobile in sense of phone. It's right. >> It's a confusing pair of words the way they >> right. >> What it does in simple terms, it inserts >> us.

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It inserts us into Apple programming program, >> right? >> TV program >> which you can watch any way that you would normally watch it. Mhm. So, yeah, it's Sorry, I keep going back to it, but it's confusing. I'm getting some

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numbers that don't match here. The um Oh, printed. >> The per year number of 12,000. No, this was 10,000.

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>> Yeah, that number is the thing that um I didn't have on there that I called Robert about because I came up with $10,265. >> Um >> that's what I was doing, but I was just using my head.

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Well, you have to add the um the four channel playout server section, the first section of the quote. Um the one-year support and maintenance you have to add on there. >> Oh, as well. >> I hadn't

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but the other thing is and I may be confused on this one as well. All of this did this whole package and a first year subscription.

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Is that come to the 62,000? That's on page five or whatever. That's page four. >> Well, what? >> 63,200. >> 63,22. Does that include the first year

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subscription is my question or not? >> I believe it does >> because if it does then the 20,000 isn't an issue. Probably still needs to be there. I don't think it does.

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need to find it out. >> Well, it's listed in the quote, so I'm assuming it does, but I don't want to assume. So, I'll talk to him. >> It also says in the quote that because they're trying to make the point we pay code instead of casters in the future.

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Um, and the way that was written, it's as if we get a monthly bill from them. Um that being the case then it's not included. So we do need to clarify it because it's 12,000 difference.

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See what I'm getting. >> What is the 12,000 difference? >> Well, if it's included in the 63,000 also which is our present. But what we would know if the sign is then

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um if it's included uh then it's paid once for this coming right >> months right >> if it's not included then that would be billing us monthly that that's where I'm

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>> billing us yearly >> you think so >> annual subscription cost. >> Well, yeah, that's not necessarily paid annually, but it is for the year. Again, we're playing games with that delightful

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thing called the English language. What I have so much fun. >> So, we need to actually the simple thing now is find out where the 63,000 comes from. That'll tell you.

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So if we just add up all the on the casters itself with the motherboard which is 35 38. That's a one off.

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Yikes. That's included in the number 42. Take this with me. We can still change this number right up until the annual meeting almost. >> Um, she was looking for the number like

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>> tonight, right? Yeah, but we can't >> I think we have to resolve that one because that's a big one. >> Yeah. >> So, you asked about number six. Is this something that we

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that we want to offer costing um you know 2,000 90,000 I mean 2,000

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9. Um, >> we we still have an open question if that is uh pathologically linked to number eight, but that's what we're not sure about.

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>> Use that once a month. I've already used up my exacerbator this month. >> So, what do you think about Joe about what you want the the station to

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offer? And is this too >> I feel like I feel like the mobile app and the that now I'm not on the committee so I just feel like the mobile app and the channel are

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really big add-ons >> that we should or shouldn't >> that that I don't see a great need for. >> Okay. I I would at least consider doing it the other way around for the interesting

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reason is if we put everything in at the moment. So we have a a goldplated system and somebody comes to us and says reduce costs we can as long as we think they're

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not very useful to us. >> Okay. >> Um >> so we would have some data. >> Yeah. accumulated as to how other people use it, >> all that kind of stuff. So, in a year's time, all

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>> to re-evaluate, >> you evaluate all of them. >> Mhm. >> Um, if you don't put them in and try to add them in a year's time, that's going to be way more difficult >> just from a financial perspective. >> It's easier to take away than add. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. And that um 2000 is a one time or it doesn't say one time. That's an annual >> annual. Yeah. >> But number eight is one time >> to set it up. Yeah.

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>> Number eight is one time. Yeah. Um because there's such a time crunch on this to have it ready for a town meeting. I'm going to get all of these answers to everyone.

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I'll send out an email. >> Okay? >> Do not reply all. >> Okay? >> But if you do have further questions or new questions, send them to me >> individually and I will get back in touch with him.

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We're okay. >> Sure. >> So, are we in as good a place as we can be on this? >> I think so. I think so. Anyone have any gone over most of it?

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>> But think about, you know, of course you'll have to see my answers that I get from him beforehand, but definitely think about what features are important to you. >> Well, I think what our chairman has said is um is relevant. It's and what you've

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said, it's easier to take off than to add on. So if we have it as is and then we're asked to cut costs and we discover that it it's not being utilized then we

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can use that to cut costs broker TV Apple TV that has the potential of widening the audience. I what I don't know of which I know nothing about any of them. I'm not a subscriber to any of them

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at Amazon Prime. So I'm probably reach >> so I don't know if they have tracking data that's of use to us. YouTube does tells us how many views we've had. I don't know how

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>> fire have that information because that would be >> that would be tremendous to have that make it even more valuable >> to run it for nine months and then >> evaluate it before we >> renew for a year.

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>> Yep. >> It's amazing what we don't know, isn't it? >> Well, the channel is once it's set up, it's good forever. It's not a yearly subscription. So if you decide to drop the channel, you're not going to save any money

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>> except if the >> that's the annual one. But yeah, if they if they're >> pathologically intertwined. >> Okay. >> So until we answer that question, I

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can't answer your question. Are >> we all good? >> Yeah. Yep. I will get those answers. I will get in touch with him tonight. >> Do we get a trade in? >> No,

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>> it's so obsolete. >> Oh, it's it's on its last leg. >> Excellent question. Chance in a hot oven. Okay. >> A hot oven. Heard that one before. Problem with computer parts, they don't exactly

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hold their value too long. >> No, I guess not. >> That was all I had. >> Okay. Thank you, Joe. >> You're welcome. >> We um pack policy

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update. We were supposed to vote on one issue in particular. Um but without Steve being here would suggest we table. >> Okay. >> Makes sense.

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>> Yeah. >> The master plan update. I've got nothing. Anybody else got anything? And whether they or not. Studio space update. Uh we've got as much as we're going to get at the moment,

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>> which is zero, right? >> Well, for a studio, but renting one, but >> yeah. >> Uh any concern there is if we start doing that, whether we better get a studio back. So that's my concern. I'm entitled to that.

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>> Yeah, it's it is it's a valid concern. >> Okay. Cable advisory committee update. Steve. Oh, no, he's not here. Anyone heard anything on that? Enterprise fund investment status

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uh is due at the next meeting. Only just a breached um mm what's her name? >> Oh um >> Marali Mari >> Mari is that right?

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>> I think so. So, uh, we typically get that she gets that a few days into the month, then it comes to me and so that'll be at the next meeting. Is there any other business that may

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lawfully be brought before this body told you the English language is a fun? >> It is. Anyone have anything else for Joe Lee or anyone? If not, I will entertain a motion.

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>> I move that we adjourn. >> Second the motion. >> No discussion. All those in favor, get the hell out of here. And thank you.