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All right. Good evening, Looney. It's Let's see. It is 6:06 on April 28th, 2026. Uh we're here for the sewer commission meeting. Um

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let's see. Um, Scott D, the vice chairman of the sewer commission. The chairman is out today and could not make it, so I'll handle the reigns. If I could ask everyone to join into the pledge of allegiance. Somebody have a flag. I

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believe Dan does. All right. I pledge allegiance to the flag United States of America >> and to the republic for which it stands one nation >> under God

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>> indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. So, in accordance with the requirements of the open meeting law, please be advised that this meeting of the sewer commission is being recorded and will be able to be found on the Lunberg Access YouTube channel after the

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meeting. The following information is also provided for members of the public that would like to participate in the meeting remotely. To participate remotely from a computer, please use the link in the public meeting webinar found on the posted agenda or from a telephone, dial the telephone number

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888-4754499 and enter the webinar ID 831-87249940. If you have not registered with Zoom, you'll be asked for your name and email address. Note, no participant ID is needed. Just press pound when asked. All right, let's see.

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I'm going to do a roll call to confirm that all members are present and can hear me. Uh members, when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. Uh Dan Proctor >> here. >> Arthur Cadis >> here.

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>> Alan Chip Wilson. >> Yeah, here. >> Uh Brent Brimson is absent tonight. Um and I am here myself. Scott D. Uh the staff, if you could please respond. The affirmative you're here. Bill Bernard is

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not here tonight. Um Andrew Valeri >> here >> and Jane Ranley >> here. >> Thank you all and we will get on with to see any business we have tonight. Is

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there any public comment? >> No public comment. >> I don't see anybody on. Okay. Is there any comment from the committee or staff? >> No. No comment.

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>> All right. So, let's move on to current business. Um, I'd like to entertain a motion to accept the minutes from the April 14th, 2026 meeting. >> I'll make a motion to accept the minutes. >> Second.

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>> Do I have a second? >> Second. All right. Uh, let's see. Uh, we'll do a roll call vote. Uh, Dan Proctor, >> yes. >> Arthur Cadis. >> Hi.

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>> Chip Wilson. >> Hi. >> Brett is absent tonight and an I for myself. All right. Those minutes will be accept or approved and we can carry on to

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the sewer business manager DPW director updates which I'm assuming are going to be handled by Andrew Valeri tonight. If you could give us an update on the manhole repair. >> So we stand there.

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>> Yep. Yep. So on Citro forum has emailed back and forth um with Bill. I've been on the emails as well. We're just trying to obviously the same situation as last time. Um they're working on other jobs now. Uh so we're hoping we can get them this week because obviously the weather was a little bit warmer, but if not,

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we'll try for next week. Um but it will get done. So, but once I have a concrete date, you know, keep everyone updated to when they finish. >> Yeah. You kind of hope that they would uh give us a little preference after their mistake last year.

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>> Right. Right. >> Um well, they they did um to their you know to their part, but unfortunately we didn't want them to do work on the manholes when it's too cold. >> Um >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're going to protect our interest. So,

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>> well, if as long as you're confident that you know they're going to get it done without losing the product and >> Yeah, they will. Yeah. Anybody else have any comments regarding that?

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>> No. Keep our fingers crossed it gets done soon. >> Yeah. Yep. No, we are. Um, probably going to send another email tomorrow if we don't hear anything. So, we're we're on top of it. >> Sounds good. I know you guys have been on top of them, so I'm not too worried

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about it. Just like to get it put it on the back burner. >> Right. A concrete date. >> Yeah. All right, let's see. Andrew, do we have any updates on five Ramrren Road? >> Um, so that went up to bid. Um, and the

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lowest bidder for that one um was Bob Proctor at U 4,800. So, uh, the work uh for that would be starting possibly next week. All goes well. >> What are they just tying it in? I can't

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remember. Yep. Sorry. >> Just going from the manhole to the property line, correct? >> Yep. >> Installing to go with the sewer stub. >> Yep. >> Okay. I mean, that's good news. Got to

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tie it in and then that's basically it for us on that one, right? >> Yep. Yep. That's all we Yep. So, I mean, it's good that, you know, it wasn't 10 grand. So, Yeah. >> How many bids does it have, Andrew?

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>> Um, oh gosh, I think there was a few of them. Three or four. I have to I don't know the exact number, but I know that um Bob was the lowest one. So, >> 4,800. And I know that there were a couple that were um a little too high. So,

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>> Yep. >> Well, that's good that we're getting uh more than one actual bid, too. So, >> right. No, it is. It's helpful. It is. So, >> yeah. Uh, does anybody else have any questions

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about that? All right, moving on. Let's see. All right. Uh, Andrew in, you know, coming up to the Lunberg town meeting. I believe it's a week from Sat. Is it? No, it's this Saturday.

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this Saturday. >> Yep, it's this Saturday. So, Andrew is going to go through the slideshow for us on the rate increase presentation that will be showed at the town meeting. >> Yep. So, let me just share my screen. >> I just want to make sure. Is that the

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meeting that we're voting on the override too? >> Yes, >> that is correct. Um, >> I'm gonna try and make that. >> That's the town override, not a sewer commission ask. >> Right. >> Right. know has a turnover. I just wanted to make sure.

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>> But yes, that is and uh unfortunately I can't be there. So uh if you're going to be there, Arthur, I will uh look for some updates from you. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> All right. Uh so I have my screen up. Can everyone see that or?

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>> Yep. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Um so uh the town manager did ask um Bill I mean you know to let the town know of course that we have to u do a rate increase. Um so what we did

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we just took um you guys have seen these slides. I just wanted to present it to the commission um because there just we kind of broke it up to pieces that are relevant to the town's you know um the homeowners uh so they can view um so why

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do you know obviously um you know our budget uh what are our you know cost drivers you know disposal costs our shrinking betterments um and we're not using retained earnings this year um that we have been for

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>> um you know we need to let those um build up a little bit more. Um so we have that slideshow. Um and then obviously you know payroll uh maintenance um basically the you know the budget um

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it's pretty much the same as last year. We've like I said we saw we only increased by a little but it's needed because you know we have of course because we have other you know projects that really need to get done

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with the pump station. So >> um see the funding sources um you know obviously lets everyone know how we're funded. Um most of our revenue is the user charges. So without those user charges we don't operate. So

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>> yeah, >> and with the betterments going down, we're gonna and for future income, it's going to be really more reliant on user charges. >> Yep. >> And then, you know, obviously, you know, the slideshow, you know, difference

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between the um where the betterments were and what our debt service is. And as you can see, just forformational purposes for the residents. >> Yeah, I think the slide is >> you know going down most important >> right and then obviously our lemon stern

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and fix usage right we or uh >> y >> so I mean that it's just you know we we have to abide >> well it's important that everybody understands that >> right it is >> you know it's our cost going up and and >> right >> I I didn't dig in because I wouldn't

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know the commentary that was necessarily going on with this but are you will there be a special note regarding that we are not increasing the minimums Um there no there is going to be a note um basically you know saying you know this should be here the user rate

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increase um let's get down there >> and I think they you know it should be a special point especially where that you know the >> a lot of the seniors have um >> right >> voiced their opinion for you know possible tax increases that this may at

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least be a small yet um >> at least uh what sh you know trying to keep their best interest at heart >> is that and and that's I mean yeah exactly Scott I mean that's um what I presented to Bill when I was coming up

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with this what I think that you know we should be doing um especially when I heard oh we might have have an override I mean you know it obviously is in the best interest if we can keep the minimum charge at the lower end I you know that's what

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I want uh for for you know for residents, especially the um lower income and elderly as well. So, um and it and I do have it stated right here, you know, um 5% increase. Um see if it's in the summary and recap.

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I mean, should be, you know, um yeah, I mean, good explanation as to why we needed to increase the rates. So >> well I mean you can see that even with the sliding scale of the you know the

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the treatment fees you know us not being self- sustaining on on that anyways and relying on outside sources you know it's important that people know hey look look at this sliding scale over the past you know what 30 years you

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shown constant uh growth right in steady and somewhat predictable. So, >> right, >> uh, you know, that's good. At least we had that information, you know, as you're preparing the 2028 budgets, >> right? And like I said, u this, you

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know, this budget season, you know, going doing this this year, uh, will definitely help me for next year, uh, when I see, you know, what we've taken for revenues, which I think honestly, um, for next year the increase shouldn't

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be as dramatic. I'm hoping not. Uh but we'll see. Like I said, as as you know, it also um determines our um you know, the debt basically how many people owe. So, and right now our

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percentages are under under that 20%. So, um I I'd like to see them stay that way if if so we're not >> I mean the new system >> Yeah, the new systems been pretty

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conducive between the text and the ability to pay. Um it's not too bad. >> Yep. And like I said just in leaving that open for um the whole quarter uh so everyone can pay you know so it's not

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just cut off you know anyone can pay their bill whenever they want um where's a you know a good uh implement implementation >> and and partials if they are even behind you know with the rate the penalty rate isn't uh super

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steep >> right right yeah that hasn't increased um the like we haven't increased the interest um which is at 12%. 12. Yep. So that hasn't increased. Um so

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that I'm not sure if anyone has any questions I can answer. >> Anybody have any questions about the between the presentation or what's going to happen uh Saturday? >> Andrew, can you pull up the uh slide

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number four? >> Number four. Yeah. >> Yeah. What um so obviously user charges fees, betterments, interest, that type of thing. What >> what mechanism do we have for the um the INI charges that we get that we

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assess people when they tie in? >> Yep. So the INI I mean that's a that that is a fraction. I I I'd say that's as under the fees section. I mean it's very minimal un unfortunately. Um but it it is better than nothing. Um but it it would be

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under that fees category. >> Okay. Does that get assessed on every tie-in >> um for INI? Let's see. I on the SRF projects I know it does. Um so not every single project it does. Um I think it was only for um certain projects that

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from 2015 Dan that rings a bell. Um the SRF projects those are the ones that usually have the you know INI fee. Okay. >> Establish your thumb. >> Okay. Thank you. >> No problem. >> Anyone else? Uh I I would like to ask

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one question only because I haven't paid too much attention with the override the the two separate override situations. But uh Andrew, if you don't know, don't feel any pressure to even add lib on it. But um do we uh meaning the sewer

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department um look at any significant cuts if none of these are passed? >> Um no. So uh for as a sewer department goes because the sewer department we're self-funded. Um so if you were to go on

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you know online >> Yeah. No I understand but if you know oops a a lot of them are part of um what am I trying to say? Um >> your manpower though too, right? Comes from the DPW.

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>> Um it it does. Um so you know we do have you know some work you know work from the DPW but that that's not going to change um the structure as is right now um would remain the same. >> Um and a lot of the things that we have

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um you know the pump stations that we subcontract out they're under contract. So >> y >> they're good. um nothing on our end um would change override or no override um from what I what I've seen and from the

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information that's been posted online. So which is um it's it's a bright side. So >> yeah, I mean I understand that part. I was just wondering if other services could be impacted that would affect our

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service indirectly. I mean to think of I mean fully think of it and not I I I'm not sure that it would um I know that you know it would be you know tough. >> Like I said don't put yourself on the

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spot. It was just more of a you know me thinking out loud but uh especially you know the a few days before this uh you know vote. >> So >> Right. Right. For sure. Um I yeah I mean sewer services um our ability to um you

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know if there's any emergencies um I I think that I I don't think any of those services would be derailed um for the this coming year. >> Okay. >> Uh before we move on, did anybody have any other questions regarding

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the presentation? Nope. or the rate increases for that matter. And we still don't have any public on >> not that I can tell. Nope. >> Okay. All right. So, uh, Andrew will

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move on to 100 Laurel Lane. Is this a new project? >> Uh, no. This is our our fun our um fun one. We have a tie card for that property and we're still trying to find the sewer stub. So,

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we know it's we think we're 95% sure it's there. Uh I mean so, um >> we just haven't found it yet. >> We just haven't found it yet. So, um it's a work in progress and the gentleman would like us to find it sooner rather than later. And I totally

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understand, but it's um it's been difficult because we did one video inspection that didn't really even it's it didn't didn't go anywhere. It just stopped. But according to the uh the tie card, it's there. We just Yeah. So,

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we're working on that one. This is the one where Arthur's going to need to dig out his metal detector. >> Yeah. I mean, >> yeah. I mean, we don't want to go poking around either. Um,

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and it's not even that far from the end of his driveway, right? >> Well, >> no, I don't know, Dan. Right. >> No, it's not. It's I think it's like 80 ft, >> you know, but it's lead ledge in the ground, what have you. So, you know,

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it's not easy digging by any means. That's why the manhole stopped where it did. And, you know, but again, we have a tie card that shows there's a line going there. We just can't find out where it ends. So, just very frustrating. But, >> when was the when was the last time that

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uh that card was updated? Is that just based on the initial plans that they should have finished it or you know? Well, well, they found there's three of them. That's the one that I took the picture of. There's three lines coming out of that manhole. One of them tied into one of the other houses. So, we know it went down the road and was tied

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in there. So, it just makes sense that all three of them were put in that same trench when it was done. But, >> we just can't find the shut off >> for it because that's pressure. It's pressure lines at that point. >> Yep. That's what I was going to ask. It's a pressure line, right?

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>> That's correct. It's a pressure line. So, Oh, I'm not sure we even where we go from from there with it unless to what basically we come up with a plan to try to dig and find it. >> That's correct.

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>> That's really y need to find it. Um absolutely make sure it's not there because if not um we also would owe that uh customer a sewer stub. So, >> right. Yep.

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>> All right. Well, I guess keep us up to date on that one and whatever we need to do with it. We certainly can. Um, did anybody have any other comments on the Laura Lane situation? >> No.

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>> Yeah. I would say it would be nice if the if the if the homeowner is uh you know really insisting on finding it sooner than later. I hope we can kind of accommodate that. Um all right, let's see. It's moving on.

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Does anybody have any future agenda items that we would need to uh discuss or add on to future discussions? >> 100 Laurel Lane. Yep. >> Yeah. Fair enough. >> Yep. That will be on there.

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>> Dan, you've been there. >> It's I mean, what's what's the next step, Dan? You going to start digging it up backwards? >> Yeah. I think >> I mean, realistically, I haven't I haven't driven over there. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm actually working like two houses down the street from there. I

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moved my equipment in yesterday. So, I told Bill while I'm there, I'm going to dig some holes and see if I can go right next to where that stub that we know the neighbor tied in and just hope that they're all right next to each other. You know, maybe get paved over. Um, you

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know, that type of thing. So, I totally know while I'm in the neighborhood, we'll >> pop some holes and just see. >> Do we have an estimated depth on it? Estimation. >> Yeah, it should be four feet deep, but again, it's it's pressure line, so there's a shut off. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Gotcha.

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>> So, and the water's on the other side of the road, so you know, that's out of our way. So, um it's a matter of cutting some asphalt and and digging some holes and >> do a little search and destroy type of thing. That's really the game plan. I know he was talking about, >> you know, trying to get his crew there,

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but they're paving Northfield Road and their guys are kind of busy with that project at the moment. So, um >> yeah, >> that that's really what >> No, I understand. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. But it's only for it's a pressure line. So, but there should be a shot for it. So, that's what we're trying to

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find. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Understood. >> Yeah. All right. That's all. >> Okay. Um I guess we have to keep the manhole

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repair update uh for you know, old slash new business. Um, but have we heard anything regarding, um, and forgive me, I forget the

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address. Um, the old funeral home just off of Massav, I know they've been doing work on the house part. But I haven't seen them break ground on anything for uh the town homes. But uh we haven't they haven't come back

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with any proposal on tying in. >> I do not I have not seen a new um new plan for that um or an updated one. So >> and our friends from the driving range, we haven't heard anything back.

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>> Uh no, we have not. Um there is um I mean for an update um connection wise there is um a home on Runny Street um if anyone's familiar with Runny Street uh 3 Runny Street um it was it's actually kind of covered up by a bunch of brush

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um and there is a potential a buyer um that is going to fix the property up and connect the sewer. So, >> well, how far is that? Just at the beginning of the street.

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>> That would be Yep. Right on the corner. So, it's on the corner of Renie and um Yeah, the side street right there. Yeah, >> Crack Street. Yeah. >> Yeah. Crack Street. Yep. Correct. >> That's good. >> That's been a long time coming. That's good that someone's buying that property

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and fixing it up, right? Yep. Yep. >> Good. Um, I don't have any other future agenda items. If nobody else does, we can move on to

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really any old business, but we kind of just covered that also. But, but if somebody does have anything that they want to add right now for future, just let us know. Um, I probably will add um the quarter 4

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commitment to our next agenda uh because I've completed the billing uh for quarter 4. >> I know that wasn't on our agenda initially, but >> uh we can discuss that um >> at our next uh meeting on May uh May

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12th, right? Yeah. I I wouldn't mind if we could have a a brief discussion on if there's any kind of feedback um from the town meeting because our next meeting is in what a couple weeks. So,

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>> absolutely. Yeah. >> Even if it's not, you know, official, just more of what if not that I expect any real feedback, but it's worth the discussion. >> Oh, for sure. Absolutely. I definitely put that on the agenda as well. Anybody

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else want to add anything? >> All right. Well, let's move on to old business, which we don't really have too many uh ticked off items that we haven't already addressed, but if we're missing something, somebody can bring it up now

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if they want. All right, let's uh Is there any public comments out there that'd like to chime in on any of the discussions? >> Do not see any public comment. >> All right. Well, let's move on to the

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upcoming scheduled meetings. Uh, looks like we have May 12, 2026 will be a 6 p.m. It will be a regular hybrid meeting. Um, looking at I believe that one's in person, right?

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>> Yes, correct. >> That'll be at the DPW, you know, or if you can't make it, we'll certainly take you on Zoom. Uh, let's see. Then May 26, 2026 at 6 p.m. that is a fully

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remote Zoom meeting. Uh June 9th, 2026, 6 p.m. that is a hybrid meeting at the DPW. And June 30th, 2026, 6 pm meeting uh you know the Tuesday before the uh 4th of July, it looks

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like, right? So we'll be uh in the home run for that. And um that one uh hybrid. There's no other comment. >> Yes, >> that one it is. It is. Yeah, it is remote. It >> basically you look at the the ones at

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the beginning of the month. What's that? The second Tuesday of the month are in person and end of the month remote. >> Correct. Uh, and if there's no other business, uh, we would entertain a motion to

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adjurnn. >> Make a motion. >> Second. >> All right, we'll take a roll call vote to accept the motion to adjurnn. Uh, Arthur Kadis, >> I. >> Uh, Dan Proctor,

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>> I. and Chip Wilson. >> I >> and an I for myself. Brett Ramson is absent. Thank you very much to Andrew and Jane for all the help tonight. And I apologize for me stammering through

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this. Hopefully uh Brett will be back uh next meeting all healthy and uh ready to lead us very smoothly. >> Oh, you did a good job. >> No, you did great, Scott. Yeah, that's what but uh yeah uh thank

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you all and we will see you next time. Lunberg >> guys. Good night everybody. >> Good night everybody. >> Good night. Great. See you guys. Yes.