All right. Good evening, Lunberg. Name is Brett Ramston, chairman of the sewer commission, and we're going to start our meeting as we usually do with uh the pledge of allegiance to the flag, which
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we'll do a roll call confirmation uh of all members. Um and um followed up by a roll call of the staff. Now we'll start with Scott Dah >> here. >> And Dan Parker is not here.
Arthur Cadis >> here >> and I myself Brett Ramston is here. Um and staff I'll start with Bill Bernard. >> I'm here. >> Andrew Bellier >> here >> and Jane Ranley
>> here. >> Thank you all. Um the meeting is in progress. Uh we'd like to start with any public comment if there is any or from the staff and commissioners. All right.
>> None for me. >> Excited to I'm excited to have a quorum and being able to move forward here, folks. >> Yep. >> Um we're going to jump right into the business meeting and business. Um we're going to start by voting on the minutes
from 8:26 25. >> I wasn't present for those. >> I'm sorry. >> The item wasn't present for those. >> Yeah. >> And um Yes. So, I'm I'm looking for someone to >> I even though you weren't there, you can still go.
>> Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. Yeah, I looked I looked at the notes. Okay. I saw >> I'll make a motion to accept the notes. >> Yeah. >> Yep. I second that. >> No problem. >> And um just a reminder and also to Lunberg, I'm very hard of hearing. So,
if you're looking right at me and you park clearly, I'll hear you. >> Good. >> Otherwise, the Inerson meetings are a challenge for me. Okay. >> So, I'm not going to catch everything you say. >> All right. So, >> directed right at you, kid. >> You are. Thank you. >> Um, so, um, I'm looking for a motion to
accept the minutes from 8:26 25. >> I make a motion to accept the minutes. >> And if that motion could be seconded, >> second that motion. >> All right. We have a motion that's been seconded. And, um, we're going to vote.
Um, gonna start with Scott Dah. I >> Eth Cavis >> I >> and I for myself. Very good. Um we're going to jump into our business business manager updates
and looks like we're jumping right into the AD edus. >> Yes. It's all I hear now in commercials. >> This won't go away on >> the radio. That's all you hear. >> It is exciting. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's uh I think we're going to have our teeth sunk into this for a while. >> Yeah. So, and that's okay.
>> Yeah. >> Do we want to get it right the first time? >> Exactly. >> Um, does anybody have anything they'd like to start with regarding that or let's let's ask the director if he has anything to start with? >> So, um, Dan stopped by this afternoon and he came up with some ideas which you
should have a copy in front of you. These ideas. >> Yep. These are ideas and the other sheet is the ideas that Andrew put together. >> Nice. So, we probably should read them over and discuss them a little bit.
>> This is great. Big step forward. >> Yeah. Because what >> the the goal is to try to write a regulation. Yeah. >> Because our regulations now are silent on ADU because they're new.
>> Of course. Yeah. Of course. >> So, >> we can kind of work around it at the moment >> logically. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. Just kind of follow our rules as they are. But we want something a little >> more solid. >> More solid. >> Of course. So people know. >> Yeah.
>> It doesn't change from one person to the next. Right. >> Exactly. Right. Because you can interpret things slightly different. So >> we want to nail it down. >> Good idea. >> Um I have a quick question, Andrew. I thought the minimum residential connection was higher than 20. um that
that that's actually um that's the minimum, but it's usually more than that. Um but that's just what our updated policy says in >> in the appendix G. So in appendix G, that's basically where it I think this verbiage that we're that we want to put
into um you know, place would go in this appendix. >> Um right, Bill >> probably in that. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So this is the section the highlight. Yeah. This is the appendix actually. So the emptiness the empty here is just for us to add in.
>> It's in black and white. So I call it this in the appendix. This is proposed. >> This is proposed. Okay. So >> well it says already that they would charge 550 after three, right? >> But before that we want to charge more. You're saying
>> so so Dian's idea like on the fees. So, the dwelling um that that's already in our >> everything that's on here, that's already our um >> in place in regular. Um the one that's highlighted is kind of something, you know, what I came up with just to extend
some of that. Um that obviously the word that wording could be changed around uh to anyone's liking um >> or maybe be incorporated with uh Dan's wording um >> into there. So, >> I don't see here is square footage. Yep. So I don't have that. So
>> we don't need to address that because that's in the state law. It is in the state. Well, that's already addressed to state law, but it's 900 square feet. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Minimum 2250 according to what we have right now. >> That is Yeah. The minimum >> that that's for a regular regular house,
but an ADU is going to be more because it's less. >> Well, that's Yeah, I left I left. >> Okay. So, I just want to make sure. So Dan suggested a $500 fee to the >> additional >> to tie in and um
>> I can't read it. $330 fee for the bedroom >> bedroom. Yeah, >> the distance doesn't matter >> no >> distance doesn't matter. >> No, it's flow that view all the flow volume. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Right. Volume
>> water being flushed. Yeah. So that's based upon the state plumbing code. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Did we I know I was deferring to to Dan's expertise um when we were writing
this up, but did we decided that we were going to go straight all the connections through right through the existing structure, not any that have to be an exception made to >> stepwise. to get an easement or
>> Yeah. It would have to tie into the existing property. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, Scott, you don't have it in front of you, but let me read it. This is Dan's idea. >> Yep. >> ADU ADU unit sewer line must tie into
the existing sewer line on the property. So, no new connections from the street. >> And then he has methods of connection and it's sight specific. So they can do it through interior plumbing. So if your ADU is, you know, just an attachment to
your house, you can plumb it inside your house. >> Yep. >> But if say you have a garage, external garage, detached garage here, make it into an ADU. Um, he's saying connected by using a TY connection underground
into the existing line going out, >> which makes sense to me. >> On on the on the customer's property or on >> on the customer, >> are we teeing? Okay. So, we're just teeing off the on the customer's property. >> It's not a tee off of the public line.
>> Is that correct? >> Is that going to take pipe cutting or is it or is it Yeah, it's going to take pipe cutting, >> right? So, they have to put a down. >> Yeah. >> And then you have to put that Y in and we want to clean out at that Y because that's a potential plug point. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Well, while we do while we do those
cleanouts and do those things as far as HADU goes, is there anything else that we could do for maintenance or preventive while we're there already? That could make it cost effective, you know, like is it something that look, you know, they're going to do put the tea in? >> Yeah. Is there anything else that can
that while it's open that we can already, you know, that needs replacing that we know of or so when we get to those places? >> Well, digging in. >> This is all private, >> right? So, the the sewer commission, we
won't be doing any of the work. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Yeah. >> But >> this is all their own property, >> right? So, the person doing the work is we call them a drain layer. They have to be licensed by us. >> So if the drain layer digs it up and he
sees that the pipe's in bad shape, >> hopefully he recommends the homeowner, hey, we got to replace some of the pipe, right? >> The contractor >> I have to go out and inspect it and if I see that, you know, the pipes all cracked and what I'm like, no, no, no. >> Yeah, it's not going to be approved. >> That's got to be replaced.
>> Y >> cuz crack is going to let water infiltrate. >> Is that a Is that a town expense or is that a individual expense? >> That would be on them. Okay. >> We're only responsible for >> the connection on the in the street
>> in the street. >> Um and we're not responsible until the connection that's actually on the main, right? We're not responsible for the tie in from the connection on the main in >> well within the town rightaway is ours. So the lateral coming off the main goes
right up to the the property line. That's ours. But from there to the house, it's the homeowner. Okay. >> Excellent. >> What I wanted to ask and this was, you know, I'm hoping that Dan will uh
hear this comment or we can email about it later or whatever. But um what if somebody is it's new construction and at the same time they're proposing an ADU to be built at the same time and I'm not
talking about an in-law. I'm talking about the 900 square foot separate detached unit. How would our fee structure work? Is that going to just go as one extra bedroom or is that going to go as the secondary ADU fee or is that
all going to be one fee because it's all new construction? I think the way we're proposing it now, it would be two separate fees, right? A regular connection fee for the house and then this new connection fee for the ADU. I think that's the best way to go.
>> Even if it's >> even if it's brand newly new connection >> because it's still the same volume. We're just measuring volume. It doesn't matter what's new. >> Yeah. Leaving our existing um that's the only way to do it. >> Meter it. >> Yeah. And that's how you know if you connect your house now and build an ADU
10 years from now that's how we are going to get built right. >> So to me it's consistent. >> Yeah. So I just wanted to be consistent that's all. >> Yeah. Good. >> Yeah. Perfect. >> Okay. Very good. And yeah this is a
great start. Andrew it looks uh got it all tied together nice. >> Thank you. So Andrew touched on So Scott saying you don't know this, but Andrew touched on water meters. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> yeah, >> it's up to the homeowner if they want to
put a separate water meter to the ADU. >> You know, I think I said it the last time, if you're building an in-law apartment, you're probably going to tie it into your house. You're probably going to use one meter. >> But if you're going to rent out the ADU, you're probably going to want separate meter. Right.
>> We can't require a second meter, >> but we thought maybe put it in the reg that you know you can go either way so people kind of understand maybe they'll question why do you have that in there? Right? Then we can explain why.
>> Okay. Well, even then when we were when we were discussing that and initially we thought it was only going to be one meter no matter what and we are billing based off water usage, you know, for the sewer. What are we going to do? Whose
name will be on the bill? Will it be the tenant if there's a separate water meter in that we're now charging sewer on or will that still be the owner of the property? uh it's a separate uh meter um for an edu. I'd like to think it' be the
tenants name because that's how what how we do things now for apartments in general. I mean >> somebody's trying to finagle a bagel and trying to >> Yeah. I mean it could be you know let's say like but it would have to be incorporated as like you know 38A or B but you know it's going to go to the
same address but basically it would be two meters tied to one address at the same time but both names would technically have to be on the bill um just for billing purposes. >> Yeah. And I'm just wondering if that
gives us an out, you know, with the unpaid percentage that we had if that puts if that can be put in to put the onus on the owner of the property. If the tenant doesn't pay,
>> right? I mean, I I think that it would go on the main property. I mean, if they're not paying the bill, >> it's like having a double decka pay the bill. >> Yeah. It's the same. Same thing. >> Well, I think Andrew, the way you wrote it, I think the bill goes to the owner
of the propert, >> right? It's going to go to the owner tech, but the the tenants's name could be on it too on the same bill because generally, like I said, if they have 2 meters, there's properties that we have 2 meters for same property. So, it would kind of
work like that just so getting a different number. There's two different readings if that makes any sense. >> I mean, as long as we get both numbers. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. If there's a obviously the water department would have to you know give me that number uh which they do with with other properties that have uh two meters >> and then we'd have to find out do they
consolidate those? No, they can't cons they wouldn't consolidate them but >> no they're not they're not together. It's they're just kind of I get numbers based off of one one meter and numbers based off so we can just >> they're recording. Yep. Yep. So that's how I generally get the numbers from the
water department. So, and like I said, that's just based off of um if there are two meters or not um our property. So, >> if it's just one meter, that's great. I mean, it's just going to go to the homeowner. So, >> thanks. Hello.
>> It it depends, I guess, you know. >> Hey, hey, hey. >> Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. in the back seat. >> So Dan, we were just talking about your thoughts on the ADUs and then um Y in front of you is Andrew's thoughts.
>> That one there in the highlighted section. >> Yep. >> So we're just kind of kicking it around at the moment. >> I wonder if he's 80 years. >> So we've already had Andrew and Dan drawing up. Sorry.
>> Say it again. Scott, >> if we already have Andrew, you know, where we discussed the last couple meetings about drawing up the proposed letter and we already I'm sorry, policy and we already have uh Dan's and Andrew's input. Now, we're at the point
of maybe refining and tweaking wording or possible scenarios. Uh, how long would it be before you had to go in front of town council with the final proposal to implement the fees? >> That's a good question. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Well, why don't we do this? Why don't we Everybody seems to be kind of in agreement with everything so far. We could kind of tie it all together into one document. Yeah. And then we could discuss it at the next meeting and then
bring it to the town council after that if we think we're ready. >> Right. And have him tweak it with the right verbage and and what type of thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because I mean I'm sure we're even without seeing the paper, just from
hearing it, I'm sure between the two of them were right on point. And of course with you, Bill. >> Thanks. You give me too much credit. No, it looks bad. >> Well, I mean, you need simple, but it's, you know, I mean, I think the biggest thing we talked about was whether we were going to be able to go in the
street with a separate one, which I don't really think that's the route we want to go. >> The fees are, you know, whatever we decide. I mean, you know, I'm open to that. I mean, I did it, you know. Um, what I don't always understand with the sewer just because there was so many different phases like you have tie-in
fees and then you have um cor help me out fees. >> Yeah. In the reverse uh reserve capacity fee and all that type of stuff. So that money gets allocated to different funds. Correct. >> That is correct. That is correct.
>> Okay. So I guess I don't know how that would affect the ADU money coming in. In other words, with some sold to that I mean um reserve fund or would it all just a pipeline once it comes in the pipeline hits and everybody gets their
pieces >> because everything has an impact and they want to have finance towards that impact I guess. I think that I mean >> yeah like a lot of that was the money >> you know like it wouldn't go to sewer permit fees I don't think I think it would go to um because we're adding adding a connection I think it would
fall in line with the flow capacity >> you know >> maybe I don't know >> we might >> right and I mean I don't know if that's a question council how it has to go >> like where yeah >> the dispersement of the funds because money was borrowed different ways right
that's how that Yeah. >> Was set up. I guess >> it Yeah. Um >> do easements affect this at all? >> Like as far as >> connections and what if they run an easement? They run piping through an
easement and it's just making like I don't >> Are people going to get crafty and and you know uh shifty with easements and tieins? >> Is it going to be a problem? I just you guys know more than me. I'm bringing it up. I don't know. It's a good question.
Our reg say no easement, >> but there is an exception, >> right? There's a waiver that can be applied for. >> There's three steps you got to get over. The first step is emergency. >> Mhm. >> It has to be an emergency situation. The
other two steps, what is it? Is it in the best interest of the town? >> Right. But ADUs do not make it an emergency. Right. Because ADUs seem to be an emergency situation, right? They have a right to have an ADU. Right. >> Right. So they can plead their case for an easement,
>> but it's going to meet our criteria. Then it'll be up to the commission meet those three criteria, >> right? And I mean, I think that >> coincides with that first bullet item that I had that it must be definition of the the way the attorney
is able to conduct their own easement kind of uh rules. We can, but again, the whole ADU unit is not >> a separate house. It's it's an auxiliary dwelling unit to an existing house. >> So, there really shouldn't be easements
in play, you know, because that that house should already be >> a house lot, >> I guess. Right. >> New constructions aren't going to >> So, it would be houses that they're building, >> you know. >> But townhouse, not a
>> No, I know, but Okay. If they wouldn't Okay, you're right. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. The town houses that would be a different, you know, category alto together type. That's where easements could come into play. >> But an ADU unit is is a piece of land that already has a house on it and we're
just going to build a small 9 to >> Yeah. Okay. I'm curious to see how many we'll have here, too. >> Yeah. There's one right now. It's in this process. So,
>> if jobs are available and the youth get some jobs, maybe they won't build them. You know, who knows? >> Yeah, because I think that's one of the, >> you know, main premises behind it. >> Yeah. I mean, that one you're talking about, I'm pretty sure she's renting it to her sister-in-law or something and so
it's going to be a revenue stream for her and a place for her sister-in-law to live and, you know, the whole front. So, >> yeah, we're close enough to Fitsburg State. Like you said, a student might want to >> Oh, absolutely. grab an AU with no exactly 900 ft. That's a good size
building honestly. >> 30 by 30. I know nothing. >> Yep. >> So, what do we want to do for next step here specifically? >> What concerns do we have? >> H >> what's what are the concerns?
>> Um well, I mean, we want to consolidate >> the >> the overall wordage, >> right? But individually, what's a concern? So we have >> we need to nail down a definite price, you know, we we definitely want to keep it
>> a single fee for and only for ADUs. >> Yeah. >> Um and then the question there is do we have a discrepancy on the off chance because not everybody fits in the same box,
>> right? >> Yeah. Um, if there just happens to be some strange situation where they've got no choice but to go directly to the line >> and it's not hurting anything or somehow
it's agreed upon, what kind of a charge would that be? Should that scenario somehow come about? Do you see what I'm saying? >> Yeah. The exist not through the existing >> shutting the door in people's faces when we don't know they're coming. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? You don't know what's down the pike.
I've run into this this before. >> Yes. So some kind of waiver from >> people are like, "Yeah, but what about this situation?" And it's like, "Well, that was never thought about." Well, >> you're not going to think of everything right now about what's coming. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. It's it certainly could happen. And a lot of it would be
more like elevation wise. So in other words, if this is the existing house and you know their line goes down to the street, well, if the if the auxiliary dwelling unit is over here and gravity, >> so it struggles to get to that because
that down I mean they can always pump, >> you know, and you could force them to pump, you know. So I mean a pump wouldn't allow an auxiliary dwelling unit to be anywhere on the property basically. >> Perfect scenario. >> And now you're relying on a pump instead of gravity feed, >> right? which again is not terrible. Pump
pumps are pumps are very common and they have self-contained units now that are super efficient and what have you. So >> excellent. Yeah. >> You know, so I mean that could always still happen. It could pump up to that existing line. So >> I really think the chances of someone
having to go into the street for an ADU unit >> pretty small and we could >> and for all we know there's a big huge piece of >> Right. Right. right in the middle. >> And it's like, well, >> it's going to cost us 30 grand
>> to get that pipe with a pump, you know, I mean, >> we don't know what they're up against, right? >> I just want to keep that >> actions open for the public. >> Maybe we just say this exact words.
>> We use those exact words and we say if this scenario comes up, right, blah blah blah, >> right? probably be a question for town council >> how to word that that gives us an out >> that if we do have to grant a waiver >> that this is the wordage we would have
>> at least we address it here and maybe they don't address it there and they we thought of it and they could have it >> right >> right so we can use pretty much the same waiver language we have now >> right >> my opinion though we should soften that emergency >> yeah somehow >> right no absolutely because of emergency
where do you really >> what do you call an emergency your idea and all type of thing. >> And what I was leading to with all that is yes, we want to have a single fee, but >> should the scenario
somehow appear down the line should there be a direct connection. We don't want to, like you said, we got to >> talk to council about it, >> but we should have at least a a fee in mind. >> Yeah. whether it's on the document or not. Um, as to what it would be for a
new direct connection, >> the same as a house, >> you know, be >> I mean, it's kind of >> same as a house. You think >> it's obvious? >> Yeah, >> because I live in 1138 ft. That's a house to me, >> you know. Yeah, we I thought we had >> I thought we had discussed at last
meeting that any new tiein would be a new fee. >> Yeah, >> not just an ADU fee. It would be the full new unit tie-in. >> Well, if they're going directly, but I think the language has
>> Yeah. And then they still have to show their three points of qualification for it too for us. And it wasn't even so much avoiding the new connection. It's more of trying to have to avoid the easement situation.
>> Yeah. And again, I think the excuse me, I think the easement issue really shouldn't be happening on this type of application. >> Yeah. Just because again I I think has to be on the property which is what >> that definition of mass general law
>> has to be on the property. >> Yeah. So no easement no exception right >> right >> exactly. >> Yeah. Um, yeah. And I think Gardler's got a good good thought there because if
the scenario should happen and it's just I'm thinking he's got good food for thought because if you're going direct to the main line you're going through all you know it's going through all the major steps it would be to add a house
from DBW's perspective from the commission's perspective from the line itself's perspective I mean town's perspective so that might be something you know even if
it's just the minimum >> every time of >> I could sell it as a separate unit as a realtor I think if it's got its own address RB and it's got its own water connection it's meter as a realtor I walk in like I'm going to sell this >> already and ready right there >> yeah it's in the house it's a house
>> oh there's another scenario >> uh oh >> what if the house is in the sewer a service area but has its own septic system. I didn't want to bring it up. I was like >> I don't know enough sewer. >> Yeah, I know. I thought of I was like I don't know enough of that.
>> That kind of falls under some of the other regulations >> because they can't pipe in from the home because they go septic. >> So they have to go separate. So there's Yeah. >> Right. Because somebody's people want to do an ADU and their septic can't handle that extra bedroom. They can't do it. >> Right. Or they'd have to get a new higher volume septic system or a
separate septic. for the ADU, >> but they might want to disconnect from >> Yeah. But if they're service area, they're service area. >> Well, it's right. That's what Scott is kind of saying. You know, he's thinking we should all >> I feel as though they're going to they
just there's no you can't. You just you'd have to hook up your mean home and the edu to the door. That's it. >> We all want to keep our property value. We have to, >> you know, for all of us to keep our property value good. I mean, you have to
look at the market a little bit and say, do we what is the possibility of selling houses that like that? You know what I mean? The the septic connection with the list and that, >> right? Right. I know. >> Yeah. But we we did bring that up a couple weeks ago when we were talking
about that, you know, cost conducive to >> they would probably if they did have to tie in with the ADU, they were just going to tie the whole house in because it really wasn't going to cost them much more. probably would have cost him less money in materials and labor than it
would be to file for the separate permit. >> What other towns doing? Have they Have they installed these? >> It's so new. >> It is. >> Yeah. The conversations we had with a few other >> town just like us. Okay. We're all in
the round table discussion stage type of thing scratching your head, you know. >> Yeah. And but Bill's right. There's so many different scenarios that could always pop up. So >> I guess the key is again to have town council write it up. We always have an out >> or we always have an avenue that we
could go that this is why we didn't want it. This is why we didn't want it, you know. >> So maybe so maybe we finate this a little bit further. Um, we keep thinking about it. Um, it's not going to all be worked out tonight for sure.
>> Um, >> and I think we should all take copy of this home. So, >> potentially have some of the options that we were talking about
>> and then, you know, our next meeting, maybe finite it a little bit. finite it a little bit further. >> Yeah. >> And >> um maybe you could potentially >> tune Yeah. Fine tune it a little bit. >> Fine tune a little.
>> Sure. >> Um and then within the next couple of meetings we should have something pretty close that we could have also look at. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I do agree with if people have to go this route and tie into the street
>> that that should really be a whole separate tiein fee. Absolutely. >> Yeah. Whereas the ADU, if someone has an ADU up here and they run it into their house, I mean, that could be a little bit more of a flat fee of, you know, 500 or a,000 or whatever type of thing where this would be the >> falls right under it's already in
writing right there. You know, >> exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, that makes sense. Excellent. Um, do we want to cover anything else on this before we move forward tonight or think about Scott? How what do what are your
thoughts like? >> I mean, I'm thinking that as long as we get our it, you know, all our tees crossed and eyes dotted before we go to before council, then we can simply adjust to whatever suggestions council
has. and then we can probably immediately vote it in without having to go back again and delaying it further. And I know it's, you know, um I know we're way ahead of this than most people are, so we might as well set the
precedent. >> Are we running into any troubles yet with people trying to build an ADU? And have we run into any troubles yet? >> There's there's one being permitted right now. >> Yeah. >> I haven't touched the permit yet. >> Yeah. Um, like I said, we can we can
work with it with our existing regulations. Yeah. Right. Figure out a fee and all that, but >> this is going to be much better and easier, >> right? >> Because he's kind of like, you know, sorry.
>> Yeah. And like we discussed, once you see one going up, it's going to snowball quickly. >> Yeah. Yeah, I agree. >> Excellent. Going to miss this one when we're done
with it. >> Well, it's got impact, right? >> It does. So, >> all right. Um, thank you everyone. And, um, is there anything to even discuss regarding the manhole repair IFB?
>> Uh, same report as last time. They're still waiting for the manholes to come in. Hurry up and wait. >> The man covers frame and >> gray frame and >> All right. And then we have a a bill credit for 45 Riley Road.
>> So that one's a little unique. Um the president called called me directly. Um you know toilets were only as good as the numbers that the water department is providing to me. But um I guess in this aspect um no one kind of relayed the
message that they uh they upped her number cuz they're they're changing they wanted to change her water meter. So they adjusted her bill and I did confirm that with the water department. Um so I said you know because our current bill
is 28324 and generally it hovers around the 174 mark. Um, so what the water department did, um, lowered her usage to a,000. Her usage from the water department I had was 1787. Um, so I said
maybe the thinking, um, I'll bring it up to the commissioners to see if we can credit your, you know, for next quarter, next bill, um, give her an $8324. >> Does that require a vote? >> Uh, it would. Yes. From you from the
commissioners. uh just so I can adjust that for um you know her next bill. Um because like I said normally when I look it is her bills are you know lower. Um but that was because the water department needed to change out the
meter but I wasn't aware of that. So she called kind of like towards the end of the billing period. So because now we're really in quarter two technically so um so I'd have to adjust that for November's bill. >> Is this different from we had this discussion last year? No, that was a that was a different totally different
one. So, this is a different one as well. So, >> so um >> I mean the res like said she'd be uh a static because like I said her bills usually not that high. Uh but like I said for next quarter the 8324 amount. >> Okay.
>> This was at Riley you said >> uh this is Yep. 45 Riley Road. >> We'll go back to everything he said. I I'll have the correct numbers from the water department um next billing >> quart next cycle. So
>> I make a motion to allow Andrew to credit that woman's account. >> I can second that motion that motion motion. >> Second that motion. >> Second should be strong. >> There we go. I think >> um we'll go start with Dan. >> I
Scott >> I >> and by myself. Motion carries. >> It's a vote. >> All right. Thank you everybody. Um very good. So we're actually now to discuss our future meeting agenda
items. Obviously um the ADUs is going to be right there top of the list. Um the minutes from tonight um manhole repair if we can get our our meeting our
by monthly update and um uh anything else that you gentlemen >> we I think we have two different parties that want to come in for easement waiverss getting out getting out
>> that should make it an interesting meeting by itself. >> Yes, it should. >> I don't want to go to that. >> We may not spend all of a lot of time. And then we also have the um change in use um
>> to vote on from uh >> yeah I think it's 308 I think it was >> the Dollar Tree or something >> they're going to put in a gym. So that's a change in flow. >> Yeah. >> So that's something you guys have to vote on.
>> That's right. The new place there >> it's an increase. >> Yeah. So >> the commission has to vote on that. >> Yep. whether it's allowable or how much we're going to charge them or just >> No, if you're allowed >> I mean that place is empty. We need
something left. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Right. >> We're not going to say no to both because we don't want to hear >> Actually, one of those I am going to have to >> share that place. It's got polls inside.
>> Leave the room to the next meeting. >> I will be at the next meeting. >> Okay. >> I was going to say next meeting is a Zoom. Correct. >> Yeah. >> Correct. >> It seems like it caught fire amongst the uh contractors like, "Oh, they're considering easements and oh
>> and now, you know, words out, hey, it is what it is. They just want to build." >> Excellent. Um, so, uh, I guess we're going to be talking about upcoming meetings now. And
mine was a little short, so I'm going to get it off my phone. Um, oh, you didn't have the two sides looking on me. >> Right. Then, um, is there any public comments?
And do we have any comments from commissioners or staff before we wrap up even? Okay. Very good. Um, Eric Coning, uh, City of Commission Pedro activities for activities. Uh, next one is
September 30th. There'll be Zoom meeting at 6 p.m. Then we have October 14th at 700 p.m. another hybrid meeting. October 28th is going to be a 6 p.m. Zoom meeting. And then November, I can't even
believe we're talking about November. >> Let's go. 11th um 2025 will be a hybrid meeting at 7 PM here at the DPW. >> Okay. Um without further ado, I'm gonna ask for a motion to adjurnn.
>> Make the motion to >> I'll make a motion. >> You're we had two motions in one second. Um we'll start with Scott Bell. I >> Arthur. >> Hi
>> Dan. >> Hi. >> And I for my side. >> Thank you Lunberg. Have a great night. Tune in next