didn't mute the owl. Oh, okay. Start again. Yeah. All right. Uh well, uh welcome everybody to the stormwater task force meeting uh coming out of the uh DVW today, Thursday, September the 25th. Um we will
open up with any public comment if we have any public in the Zoom. We do not. All right. Excellent. Um then we can just jump straight into our meeting then. Um,
Bill has given us a new package of data here. Um, for a or is it part of it is a engineering company or uh what was this? Is this somebody who's
done Weston? Yes. Yes, that's what I was saying. talked about that we weren't happy with what CI was providing. So yeah, we reached out to Western and Samson. They gave me a cost estimate and it uh
it breaks the bank. Yeah. So maybe we can reduce the scope of work there and make it more reasonable. Sure. And find a way to squeeze it in. Um,
okay. So we're looking at the Samson. Yes. Proposal on the last page. It has all the tickets for all the sounds. Yeah. Wow. There it is. Yeah. That makes it easier. Two-sided printing. Yeah.
This is the the same thing. It's just an enlarged version. Oh, okay. So, task one, background data collection and review. I think we need to leave that in, right? We kind of know where we're at.
Pass to DPW capabilities assessment. I think we can take that out. [Music] I don't I don't know what anybody else has thoughts on that. So yeah, just to back these this go was what they did for conquer.
Yeah, which they did it was a large Yeah. Yeah. Even beyond storm water, right? Probably. So this was and and I think it was over multiple years probably. Yeah. So there's
likely things that we can cut and shrink, but that's where it's coming from for tax. I feel like you've already identified what you think. So there's really no need for them to reidentify. Yeah. Story is a big chunk of change,
right? And I think we can reduce that. Yeah. Because if you read it, I think they're they want to look at every property. You've already said single family home one eru. So right, exactly. Why? They don't need to look at those
and parcels over 10 square feet. Yeah, that's too I think that's a very low Yeah, I think if we could get them to do it by like the what's it? Not the parcel ID, but the the type of parcel rather than
what like you know 1010 whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And just leave out the residential maybe. And then because we know that residential is going to be one that should cut it way down. I would hope so. But they When I looked at this, I remember
thinking, you know, they call out driveways, parking, sidewalks, and walkways. Mhm. I mean, doesn't that just go along with if you're doing like uh that warehouse on Lemonster Shirley, you would of course do the driveway and
But those sidewalks are all the sidewalks owned by the town. Not necessarily. That could mean like a walkway from your driveway to your front door. Oh, I got you.
They went to a level of detail. Yeah, I think that Yeah, it's overkill, but So, if task three became, is it enough to say excluding residential,
multif family, single family, because they all have different codes, condos? Yeah, I think well because for condos are we still we're just doing one u to the property owner because the condo is still going to be one property owner, right?
But on a apartment then we'd be looking at a bigger scale for the property owner. So condos would probably fit in that residential. Well, what about like um I forget that
the the whale arrive that would be that's a complex so that only has one or like a company that owns the property. Okay. So I would think that what we were thinking before is that that would be considered one property.
What's what's the code on that? I think it'd be easy if we could tell them exclude these codes. I think residential it's 1010. Yeah. 1020 is condos. Oh, is it multi? Because I think I'm 1020.
Where are their condos in Lberg? Oh, look at You can look up mine. [Music] That's one big parcel. And it is 3,400 office
is the description. Yeah. So, it says Well, it has an office. Yeah, it has the property manager's office. Have an office 3,400. Huh. Interesting. So, exclude 1010. That's single family home, I think.
Yeah. want to hear us all in. It's um and it's showing the entire parcel, but also Oh, it's showing the value is just 180,700. I would think that I'm missing
something, but that's definitely the whole parcel. So, isn't that weird? Building value. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. No, it says that it sold for 76 million.
That ASR is going to be way off. That's weird. Um, all right. So, give me a condo. Um, I'm looking I'm looking at 11 Winter Green Court. Uh,
where's the I looked at a house on that street. Oh, I know that name. Yeah, I know that's 1020. Okay, so that's condo. Yeah. And then 1010 is Let me look at my house.
Yeah, that should be single family home. What I don't know is multif family. Anybody know an address for multif family? search. What actually delineates a single family from multif family? Cuz like I think this is a problem or question we
ran into before. Yeah, true. Oh, a little bit like 7-Eleven, Massav. Those are Oh, those are owned separately though, I think. Yeah, that's condo. I can't think of any.
Multifamilies might all come back as condo like condo because they usually are cuz they're usually owned separately or one person owns it and then rents out a unit. So then it would be but it would technically still be a multif family. But that wouldn't be a condo if one person owns it and then
rents out. So here's the document of the property type classification codes. Yeah. From DLS, there's a lot of multiple use residential single family
101. How do you do these in 102? You must Yeah. Uh mobile homes are 103. Two family 104. Three family one is in here. Okay. So, anything 1040 or 1050
are what we would consider multifamilies. So it looks like Well, and then there's apartments and mobile homes. Oh, yeah. We're doing We have a trailer park. Yeah. Do they do each of those pay property
taxes or is that rented? I don't land. I don't know. So 10 10 to 11:40 looks like hotel motel and resort. What did you say arrive was called?
Arrive was office, which was odd. Um, that's got to just be the property manager's office. It's the whole It's definitely the whole property. That doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense though. This is What was the code though? The um the code is 3,400 office and then it's see the yellow outline. That's all of our eyes.
Yeah. So, this is that's the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't have it actually isn't including this parcel over here. Yeah, there are some, right? Yeah,
maybe it's 24. I think it's probably 24. Yeah, also also arrive. Um, use code 1300 vacant land. I was going to say that's just an open path that but no, there's there's a couple of
houses there. Um, I live across from it and I look at it all day. So there's not all day but yeah there's three houses right there. Those are the ones that are is that the they're right on the waterfront.
Yeah. So there is the whole thing and then they're the ones that have the garages and it's just like the two families. Okay. But they are showing as vacant land
1300. Okay. That's still No, we know for a fact they have houses on them. Yeah, I see them all the time. I drive I drive by them. Whenever I leave my house and go to the Rotary. Strange. Yeah, there's a
1300 developer land is what it shows up in this document. So there's um It's weird. So, is it enough to say exclude residential to actually get like the codes?
Yeah. Not sure. Do you know how much offhand we already paid CI for what we've had them do? It's over multiple years. So, I have to think it off.
Fair enough. Somebody came with that away. [Music] Ranky. Yeah. Oh, it is John. How are you? Hi. How's it going? Okay.
I'm running a low-grade fever, so I thought I'd save you guys the uh very much appreciate that. Thank you. Um just so you can keep up with us, uh we're going through the documents that
Bill emailed last week or this week. I don't remember when. Okay. Yep. I did my homework. I read through them. Okay, good deal. So, if we modify task three to say exclude the resident, whatever the codes we just
went through. Um, is there anything else? Yeah. I'm I'm curious how much how much money that would shave off. Is there anything else we could on that
greater than 10 square feet just seems like crazy. Yeah. I mean, I could see 100, a thousand. I don't know. Pick a number. But also like decks and patios. Yeah. Could be um permeable. I know. So, there's also
cut those off. Yeah. And increase the minimum size. I don't think it's going to cut it that price tag in half. Are you trying to brainstorm ways to reduce that? Um, yeah, task three. So,
yeah, John, we thought task one was yes. Task two, no. In here, now we're on task three. the GIS person.
I really didn't. Yeah, I am. Bill, is this top part is that 50? Is that how much is left to spend on storm water like this initiative? I think so.
Plus, there's other spending like the demonstration BMP that would now. That's coming out of there. That's probably going to be another 25,000. Oh my god. So, there's not much left. Yeah, right. And we don't have a target number
from town manager what we could possibly well when I talked to her you know I told her we're going to try to reduce then come back to her and she didn't give us you need to reduce it to this at least.
No. Okay. this task. I mean that really the initial time you do this is the most costly right like the first time you do it but it's also like it's a foundation for everything having that
having that information be accurate and correct and not 10 years old but going forward you would only need to look at new properties and if it's single family homes We don't need to. [Music]
[Music] department this right probably should eliminate recreational and I don't know what falls into that you know it would be nice to get a week now
but oh here's Rick that it's on here on this DLS document. I should I should send you guys the link. Yes. Um it's listed as chapter 61B recreational property. I don't know if that's what that's referring to. That
should be exempt anyway. There you 1300 parcels. How did they come up with that number? I didn't find myself that. Yeah, I do. So, this is task three you're talking about, right?
I think that we gave them that would be our max number of parcels. Yeah, that seems like a lot to me. Yeah, and that's on up to And you see that? So they're saying this is only from 1300 parcels. So they've
already taken out residential. I thought we had 1300ish. Or is that how many parcels do we have? I thought we looked it up when we were Huh? Look at the screen. I don't have my glasses on.
That's from Oh, CI 4,800. Yeah. Residential. We had what? 3 and a half thousand. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. What we've got left is
everything but residential. Yeah. But if that's up to 1300, 185, 132, that's 300. 350 600. Yeah, there's like less than 700 there.
That would be not feempt. Where did CI get those numbers? We know that they're made. I mean, they must have got it off of assessor's maps, right? Sarah said the GIS database was updated
like the week before she presented to us, right? This report was like from March. So, yeah, I should probably worry then. There are more definitely more properties. I I don't know the last time GIS was updated. So I
I think we're starting from scratch. So at the top of the test, they say they're using GIS data from 2023. For their parcel count, I don't know how that matches up that list. I think
the CI data is older. Yeah. The problem we had was their impervious area data was like 10 years ago. Yeah. Um there's certainly new properties since 2023.
Yes. A lot. How many of them are not single family homes or or residential of some sort? Probably not many. Right. That's what I think. Most of the construction has been I can think of one on two way that new storage,
right? Um so I thought the GIS data was I don't know if this is a copy and paste from Conquer's plan. conquered scope of work. Oh, that's 2023. That's what I'm wondering. I don't know. I'm just
thinking the 1300 parcels. And this is in Lunenburgg, but yeah. Where did they get that from? Did we get them that number? I don't remember. I feel like I heard that number somewhere. I just don't remember where. It could have been somewhere else.
Looking at this, right? Yeah. Round it to 4,900. Round the single family to 3600. Yeah. 1300. Yeah. So, that initial call we probably said up to gave them the upper limit. Okay. Cuz we do have 581 there that are
bee exempt. Do we know what that means? No. But that's what it says on there. They may not be P exempt. I don't know where that data came from. I'm not looking at CI's report. So, so much for cutting that number.
Well, I think that on the next tasks, maybe we could cut the scope a little bit. Um, like we we've kind of already decided what our rate structure is. For the most part, we're comfortable with
what we've come up with. You mean as far as like commercial or No. Well, for residential. Sure. Not for I think we have like a residential. I agree. That's what we're looking for.
Where we want to be kind of in between, right? Depending on the size. Yeah. Yeah. This here, right? Even if we haven't settled, I think it's something we can decide with that if we have the the data and the information,
right? I think we can come up with Yeah. different choices. Sure. I tend to agree. I I think we know what we want and we're pretty comfortable with what we've been discussing. I don't think it need them to tell us something we,
you know, where the where the bullseye is on the target because I think we know where it is. Yeah. So test four it's giving us this table here. You already have the table, right? Yeah. But we can expand it on the top end like we talked about.
Yeah. So we really just need them to give us from task three. The output would be uh where did it go? um use assessors data to assign a land use category of multif family res. So we
just need to get the category for the properties that they find. We should be able to get that from our assessors anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Which part are we getting from the assessors?
the most upto-date um glass code for all the property, right? Okay. So, task three is to get the impervious area. Yes. Data. Sorry, I was looking at task four. I got mixed up. Yeah. And then task four is break the properties into different class codes so
we know and then come up with a rate structure. So, we can do that. Yeah. So that would save almost $20,000. And task five is why we're bringing them
in, right? Because we want somebody who knows how to pay for the public. Yes. That's expensive. Yeah. basically 30 but I don't think we have the expertise or
the time to do that now with the design number we're trying to reach. We don't Oh, it's possible. Less than 85,000. Yeah. Yeah. Does it say 25,000?
Where's the thing? The only part going back sorry to task for that is the billing and collection options because wasn't there a question about I think on the call what was her name? I forget her name. She said we couldn't put it on the property.
She wasn't sure. We can't put it directly on the property tax. She was going to get clarification on if we can put it into an insert because the law isn't very clear, but it does say you can put inserts in about things,
but it doesn't say if it's okay if it's another fee was kind of weird, like a bill, but I have a feeling. So, so I think the billing may be more complicated than we thought. Yeah. Is that something worth keeping in task four?
I mean, if we don't have something ready to go, we might have to anyway. We might not have an option there. Um, was sorry, was putting it in property tax different than attaching it to water and sewer bills?
Not everybody has water, I'm sorry. Sure. Very few people have sewer. Don't get a water or sewer bill. Yeah, I don't either. Very few people have sewer. Yeah. Yeah, we have it. It's so weird that we have it where I live because
it's such a random place. It's not a public road to bring sewer. But you're close to Lemonster line. I wonder if that's why it's town next to the lake. Yeah, I try. My neighbor, I think a champion.
all of us around this future around um well I don't know I think the billing is going to have to be separate like the sewer billing you know reduce our own bills and send their own separate
okay just add that to the cost of the How much is it to send out a bill like per stamp nowadays? Just the just the cost of a stamp. Yeah. And then somebody's tied to stuff the envelopes, right?
Oh, you don't contract that out? No. We only have a thousand customer. Okay. Right. So, we print them all here. We have a senior tax write off person come in and stuff the envelopes.
quest is going to be much bigger, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're doing this. We're looking at what uh 4 and a half thousand whatever we had up on that chart a moment ago.
We have to contract it out probably like we probably do. Okay. Contact it out for somebody to stuff envelopes to print. Oh, yeah. To print. Yeah, but we print them in house here. Yeah. Yeah. The store. Yeah.
It's only a thousand times. You have to set up the software so it's available online. Okay. Well, you can add offer that as an option. Not everyone will do it or could do it,
right? Because there's fees. And then even if you do pay online, you still look at the paper bill, right? Right. So, it's still going to go out no matter what. Does it have to go out quarterly?
Twice. Maybe we could do twice a year. That would save Twice a year would save us a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. It's not a lot of money. I don't think people get upset if it was a $30 bill instead of a $15 bill.
And would it would be half the cost. Yeah. All right. So with text task four is on. Okay. Task five. We need I think we can reduce tax six, right? Public presentations. If they come up
with a PowerPoint for us, you know, we can do the presentations. Sure. to like the select board and finance. I think if we go to town meeting, we'd want him there. Or if we want to do a separate meeting, you know, come and learn about the
storm water utility, we want them there. So maybe we cut the meetings in half. Does meeting with us, is that included in like the three small group meetings? I think the nine monthly progress meetings are meeting with us. Okay.
The three small group meetings would be maybe meeting with Bill and somebody else. I don't know what the three small group meetings would be for. The task includes as many as three in-person three meetings to hold dialogues and information sessions
different organizations and group. Oh, like select four. Well, maybe we could do it all in one. Yeah, take that down to one. And do we need I don't think we need four public.
No, two. Two. Yeah. This to one take this to two. Nine monthly progress meetings. Yeah. I think we can reduce that six.
Yeah. Okay. I think well once we have good data a lot of this we'll try to come up with on our own and then once we have what we want to do then we can get them to start helping us message it.
So if we said four monthly progress meetings, the total number is cut in half. We go from 16. Oh, not even. They could do five and they'll cut it. So they have total of 16 meetings here.
Nine. If we go into Oh yeah, five would be eight total. You cut it in half. Yes, please. This fly is driving me nuts over here.
So I just did a quick math. If we cut task six in half for cost as well, eliminate task four and task two
by adding up to 51,50. Yeah, it's pretty close. But I think that's in the ballpark of what that's what CI we were targeting right before I think for the year with CI
CI was 55 for everything that's like their BMP stuff their storm water utility they have 15,000 on CNM right there. Well, if we I was thinking it it's not the same goal work. They're not
going to give us as much. Yeah. Right. I don't think they can. Yeah. I'm going say we could talk to Sam and see, you know, what we can reduce in scope. Shoot. I got these out.
Thanks for printing these both. Actually, So when we go back to Weston and Samson, what is that woman's name? Jarus. Jarus. Jarice. Yeah. Um
remove task two, task four and reduce the task six meetings to one small group to public and five monthly progress. Is that right? That's what I have written down. Yeah.
And then take that number to the town manager. Yeah. See if I can find it. That means we'd have to ask for money at special time meeting, right? I can think of another way. See,
we don't want what? Don't rub a bank. What? What's another way? Just watch out the 90 funds, but something else. Transfer the money.
Wait. Oh, because you can't use chapter 90 for this on this. No, is is there 50 but some of the P I was going to do
right 50,000 set out of my operational budget use chapter 90 that 50 grand is available to transfer to storm water. We did get a lot something like that could work. We did get a lot of extra chapter 90 this year, right?
We did. It doubled. Well, we haven't got it yet, so we don't know yet. In theory, we they doubled. Hasn't landed yet. The checks in the mail. Yeah.
What do you guys think? Um, I mean, I think we go forward with what we have. We see if Western Samson is willing to adjust their fee structure
with what it is that we're looking for. um and see what we can get. I mean, do we have to take this back to Jen for kind of like
I think I missed part of this uh in terms of like what we need for approval. Yeah, we should definitely keep her in the loop. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Of course. She knows that we talked to Weston Samson. Yeah. Right.
Right. She knows I don't have 85k to pay for that. Yeah. Neither does she. Um, I guess is there the scope of work with the the changes that we talked about, is that good? Is
there more you'd cut or stuff you'd put it back in? So the only change to task three is um I don't know that it's going to change the cost any not to exclude the residential and to do we want to instead of saying greater than
10 square ft put another number there take out decks patios we can do that probably won't change much. Yeah. As I mean 10 square feet is like Yeah. If we're looking at this right, none of
this is actually including residential which is where like most of our decks and like sorry am I understanding that correct? When they talk about for task three like at that point we're just
looking at commercial products. I don't think we explicit it doesn't explicitly say that but I think that is how we got up to 1300 parcels but we gave them a target based on that but in the actual if we proceed we'd
have to be more specific on what was you know what properties they are excluding from this and now this sure is because if we're looking at the same fee structure as before or a similar one like it is like if it's for
residential then we don't care about you know a 10 square foot whatever because it's you're paying the residential fee. Yep. But when we go to commercial products like it is then going by square footage but 10 square foot also feels negligible
in the realm of you know 4,500 or whatever one ERU was. I just don't want someone to pay someone to sit there and try to draw a polygon around a tiny tent there. I mean because that's that's how this is being done. Someone is sitting there and drawing
around things on a map. Right. Right. So if we say you don't have to worry about drawing around these things, that's going to be less time and that means less money. Sure. True. That's true. What we I mean it's slightly automated. It's not totally somebody
just has to sit there and go through and Yeah. The other thing that came up though too was and I think Sarah from CI brought this up. Do we want to create
you are exempt if you have less than X number of square foot? Like I think she gave the example of someone's got you know a house that's you know a mansion and then someone's got a cottage. Oh. Like and they're paying the same
J's little shed on her. Yeah. Checking the property. Yeah, I feel like that's not covered. That would be We'd have to like go into property cards and Sure. I feel like if we do that, we're over
complicating it though cuz if we're we're what we're looking at as a fee is pretty low. I know. I agree. You know, and yes, occasionally it sucks if somebody has a really big house and they pay the same fee as somebody with a little house, but
we're talking about not a huge Yeah. amount of money and we could say, "Okay, well, we're going to get more granular. We're going to charge you more if you have a bigger house, but we're just trying to be fair." Sure. So, I mean, that's sort of the same problem
we run into when we come up to the the clumps for the commercial products. is like the low end and the high end are paying the same amount until you bump up into the next one and then you're paying the full amount for that. Yeah,
I I agree with Jenny. Keep it simple. And I I still view it as everybody this is a tax that's used to really maintain the roads and storm water infrastructure in the town. So, everybody needs to pay. It doesn't matter if you have a big house or small house in my mind.
Yeah, I think that um the meeting that I accidentally scheduled last week, uh Glenn Mloud came in um and he just kind of voiced some of his concerns. And I think that's the way
the primary way to look at this and explain it to the town is that this is as much as anything is a a tax or a fee for maintaining our infrastructure. Not necessarily like the actual my property does or doesn't
produce runoffs like using the roads, you're using the infrastructure. This is your contribution to it. Yep. Yep. It's not a big tax. I don't think people should get too upset if
it's 15 bucks a quarter. Hopefully. Some will. Oh, they're always going to be. Yeah. I don't know. There was so much talking about about fees and taxes and things at the planning board or the
master plan meeting last night. Like I I worry that that it's going to be a way bigger push back than we expect. But I don't know. It's going to be I'm worried that it's just going to be that one last straw,
you know, that just breaks everybody. But we got to at least try do it again. Yeah. And then we'll have more experience and more information stuff in a drug though to get people to care about water. Well, that's what I was joking about
before. I was like, Bill's going to have to stand in the middle of a flooded street to sell it. Yeah. Well, in May that would have been case So, will you talk to Weston and Samson and just kind of talk to them about ways so they
can reduce the scope what we're talking about? Do you want me to set up a Zoom? Maybe one or two of the members can be on. Sure. Yeah. Okay. two of us at most. Otherwise, we can
set it up. Are you moving on to the next thing now? Sure. So for the the master plan steering committee, I haven't seen the corrections for firm ro. Do you have them? I do. There's four questions. Okay. That's not as nearly as many as conservation.
Yeah. Have to look at the other ones. Looking at it, there's only one of them that I I think actually applies to us. Okay. And it's specifically what it is that we're trying to do here. Yeah. Um, so the only one I think actually applies
to us, establish a town fund dedicated to storm water infrastructure and maintenance, which is precisely what we're doing. Yeah. Um, the others involve um, and I'm I I should have asked last night. I didn't think to get into this.
Um, the only other one I'm not sure about, and I think Bill, I asked you about this last week. um ensure the town has an updated hazard mitigation plan and create a roadmap to reduce the impacts of natural hazards and climate change within Lunenburgg. I think I was asking
you along the lines of that. You said that's mostly through like the police and fire department. Yeah. Has mitigation. Yeah. Okay. The climate change part and like show we have anything. Okay. I just sent out um they had sent
something about this and you're not on it so I sent it to you. Okay. Are you familiar with what we're talking about right now from any other? So it's the master plan steering. I I know what the master plan steering committ and they're asking for all of the
commissions and boards and task force to give some input on uh Excel that they sent out. They also send out a PowerPoint that is useful to look at. Yeah. Um, so the other two on here
encourage new housing developments that broaden the available residential options uh and are planned appropriately to preserve open space, public trail access, and wildlife connectivity. Not really our wheelhouse. um incorporate resiliency strategies for
conservation land to protect from natural disasters, environmental concerns, and extreme weather events. I see why they look to us, but I don't think that's part of our I would say that it is. I would say that storm water infrastructure is
a resiliency strategy even for conservation land because when I first moved here we had just had that 11in storm and um you know all the conservation land was flooded from Opusbrook and Sure.
Um that's just my opinion. Yeah. Well, I agree. Okay. So, I've helped out volunteers. Bob, huh? Bob, right? Who uh replaced some pipes? Yeah. Over. What's up?
Uh lane. Is it the wait the between Massab and Mopus Road? Oh, Cowry. Cowry. The what we had last week? Oh, it a while ago. I I gave him some pipe and you put it on you.
Okay. Yeah, because um Josie Gilchrist led a the whole day for the United Way where they cleaned up cowry and did a lot of trail work and some invasive removal and they worked on the bridges and they did a bunch of stuff.
So nice. Excellent. Um yeah, so that's it for the master plan recommendations. Um, I will fill this in. Uh, you know, just saying for the two that that do sort of align with
us and two that don't and I'll turn that in. We should be good to go. Cool. Pretty straightforward. Um, I will fill that out and send that to Kim tomorrow.
Um, meeting minutes. Did everyone get an opportunity to review last month's meeting minutes? Yep. Yes. Right. I will take a motion to approve them then. So move. Second. All right. Uh, all in Oh. Um.
All right. We're gonna have to do this roll call. Um, John, I'll start with you. Hi. Um I for to approve. Okay. Mark approve. Rene I. Chen. Hi. And an I for myself. All right. Minutes
are approved. Great. Yeah. Where's Mr. Miyagi when you need him? um outreach, we're back a couple steps, so we're not worrying about that at the moment.
Um or at least that that's what makes sense to me. If anybody else has any other ideas, please let me know. I feel like that we put on the back burner burner for anyone. Yeah, that's going to be part of the the lesson in Samson. Yeah. Or whomever we end up going with.
That doesn't happen. Um, Bill, what's our storm water BMP situation look like? Under construction. If you go by in the library, see a market. It should be done a week or two. Oh, great. Yeah.
Excuse me. We have to come up with something for the kiosk. Okay. Some kind of diagram or something explaining what it is, why. Sure. All right. Um, how do we go about like what
level of production value are we looking for for the kiosk? Yeah. Should be quite good, right? Sure. Yeah. Sure. Like one of those, a tin or aluminum signs. Yeah. And just that will last a long time with
some information on it. This is just like we plot out the kind of description for it and then we hand that off to somebody else to actually produce the Yeah. kiosk. Okay. Okay. Are you trying to be like specific to that particular BMP or could it just be
we just steal it from somewhere else and just say this is a storm water BMP for helping storm water management or Yeah. combination of we include what what might have gone into it, how it works maybe. Okay.
Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Then we can have a sign made up. The contract is going to make the kiosk there plans for it. So Oh, okay. Oh, so close. It's so much nicer
outside. I'd rather be outside. Oh, he's in here. Garbage can over here, right? Um, all right. Well, if that's where we are, I will accept a motion to When's the next meeting? Oh, yeah, of course. And I'm gonna
my calendar so I don't do that. I can't because my phone is in my card. So, somebody remind me. Um, I can put it in my calendar on the computer. It's 2025. So, the third is the 16th. Yeah.
Yeah. Um, I am good with the 16th. I am right, John. Does the 16th work for you? It should. Yep. All right.
And Mark, you're good with that? Yeah. Should work. All right. Good deal. Um, then it hurts. [Music] All right. I will accept a motion to
adjourn the meeting. Second. All in favor? I I Great. That's the meeting. Thanks, everybody. John. Night, John. Feel better, John. Yeah. Feel better.