Good afternoon. Sorry. Good. Good. Good afternoon everybody. This is the Lunenburgg Water Districts Commissioner meeting. Uh today is March 25th, 4 p.m. And we will start with the
pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> First thing we have is review and sign
warrants. And my commissioners are so efficient that they've already done that. We had a set of meeting minutes rolling around. were looked at as well. >> Y uh Mr. Chair, I make a motion we approve the minutes of March 11th, 2026. All those opp.
>> Okay. Next thing we got is a presentation for developer for the proposed development which uh requires a district expansion around 110 street. >> Uh gentlemen, take it away. >> Thank you very much. My name is Anthony
Cle. with Haley Ward engineers and land surveyors here on behalf of MDO partners. Uh also in the audience we have some of the project team here as well. So what the proposal is before the water district is to expand the water
district up to about 110 Bur Street which is this property here um as shown on this map in red is the existing water district. So anything in here already is in the water district boundary. The proposal is to expand it in this blue
line here. Again, the the intent is to provide um the municipal water out to this property for future development, but including other properties along the way into that water district. So, this is the property um that our team is involved with uh for a potential
development. So, that's the proposal before the water uh the water commissioner and the water district for that. I believe the water main ends here. You know, this is in the water district. It ends at Reservoir Road and Page. So, the intent would be is to extend the water system up Page down
Birds to get to this parcel here. Um, and some of the benefits that would um come to the district would be into the town in general providing fire protection because there' be hydrants associated with that water system extending that out. So, improving fire protection of the area, excuse me. You
know, also provides the ability for any existing homes along the way that may be on wells if they have any problems currently or in the future, then have the ability to tie into that system and also becomes a source of revenue for the water district as well without any cost
because the water district would not have to pay for the installation of that water system to bring it out to that to that property. So, that's kind of the brief overview of the request to expand the water district to that area.
just to give some folks an idea of where we're at very preliminary uh and the stages in infancy uh of our proposal but again that's that property I just mentioned that larger property 110 Burj proposing
a 17 lot residential subdivision loop road coming in off of Burge uh coming in and around um roadway to servicing you know, essentially 17 residential lots. So that's that's that's the gist of the project in very beginning stages and the
intent is to just bring bring water up, get it in the water district to provide municipal water and again the benefit to the district as well. So it's a brief overview for the commissioners and anyone in the audience. >> What's um how many feet is on the on the uh well
it's two sections on the road on street, right? Yeah. So I think it's if we come I believe we were both it's about a 900 foot extension of the water man from from reservoir and page >> up and then >> all right what I'm getting at is so
where let me have that >> how many feet on barrage street >> where where do you intend to stop the main expansion on that's what I'm getting because you got to go from what I understand you got to go halfway down the property line right Fran
>> well yeah in this case where I'd go to the second one. >> And so I think so again, so that would be, you know, things to definitely work out with the water district uh and the commissioners through the development of the through planning board and everything through the process. We'll be
working with with your folks on that, but I would suspect you'd probably want the water man looped around, >> right? Exactly. >> You know, so um so you'd be you at least coming up to here, looping around, and then probably back down would >> Exactly. That's what I would expect um
to be required. >> That's what I was getting at. >> Yeah. >> So when when you're looking at it, >> this is your >> Yes. >> parcel. Yep. >> You're coming up. Where is your roughly your first and second entrance? >> Yep. So we have Right. So we got that
bend in the road. There >> is the bend in the road. >> Okay. Yeah. >> So yeah, that bend in the road here. And then this parcel is actually part of it as well. >> You know, you kind of loop up and around. Yeah. So, that was kind of my question. The border the proposed border
for the the new pro border for the district is beyond that. Is it going to go all is the is the water line going to go to the new proposed border? >> At this time, we haven't gotten in as far as design. We're just talking about expanding the water district because if the water district will get expanded,
not going to talk about 50, 100 feet, 200 feet of water man, >> but that would be something absolutely I would expect the commission to bring up and and ask about that. I think with the development of this, it made sense to include some properties beyond it because even if if this part of this
project that stopped there if someone wanted to extend it, you're already in the district, you know, to do that. But that would be something we would expect to come up through the design process. >> Penman's putting a house across the street down the street a little ways. >> I think he is. I think he saw where that
trailer was. I know he sold it, but I'm not sure if >> Oh, because he's not doing it. >> One time that was in with this part of the deal. Whoever bought that was going to Bill Pedan our street house across the street. >> That's not >> okay. Cuz I was just wondering if they were planning on bringing the down to his new
>> that wouldn't be an issue with us to bring it to the >> I think it's one of those >> and then make it future to tie in with a gig or something for >> I think it's we're talking about those details. Great. We've we've just jumped five steps. If we're talking about where's your water gate going to go,
where's your hydrants going to go? Fantastic. Yeah. >> Premature if this isn't in the water district. >> That section on the right hand side of that whole lot that's marked off. 16. Is that I can't see if >> What's that? >> That one? No. Up. Up. Up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up here. >> Yeah,
>> that's the parcel that was cut out of the deed. >> Um I'm not sure. This is the assessor's mat. So it's a separate parcel. So but it's >> but own that. >> You own that piece? >> Not that I don't think that's no. Okay.
No. Okay. Well, we're going to include it in the water district uh proposal, you know, to expand. >> But you understand what was going on there. >> 116 >> on this parcel. >> No, the small one on the right. >> Number 16.
>> That's what Penid dumped all those from Maldahhide. And that was a super fun cleanup. >> Okay. >> And that's what all You mean you guys don't know that? >> Oh, we know all about it. But that is >> Okay. That's why I'm saying >> Yeah. Yeah. We didn't cut that one. He was going to divide that off of that parcel. That wasn't going to be part of
the whole parcel. >> It was like 50 acres to start with and then I think it went down to 42 or something. I don't know. >> They're just trying to >> trying to get a handle on everything so I know what's going on. >> See, it's my impression that that
>> super fun site supposedly is clean tested and >> it's all reported D. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's all done. Yeah. I know that that that part is a is a concern for a lot of people. >> So on the district expansion, this kind of what I drew up. So a lot of times in
the past, we can see it went down Page Street. Uh we would just do like a a line 500 ft or 1,000 ft that followed the roadway. Uh in this particular case, we found it better to do the the property lines because if someone has a house that's way off the road and we only went 500 ft, we didn't get the house.
So we use the property lines of the residents as the boundary border. So we cover the entire property of the person. >> There's this little gap here between the existing district line and the new. >> Does this affect anybody that is that
currently owns these as far as being able to connect? >> I mean we basically as Fred mentioned we follow the property line. >> So basically anyone that fronted on Bur here is covered. >> Correct. this line if you wanted to clean things up.
>> I I Yeah, I >> probably would just fall. They come some point would be pulling off their frontage. Actually, yes. Their frontage is in the district. But we've run we've run into issues before that people have frontage in the district. They have land in the district connected to land
outside the district and it and it causes a real problem. >> Sure. Yeah. I mean, probably if if this would to go through that would make sense to kind of clean that up. has no bearing on this because these people would tie into Page Street kind of connect. So like this
>> like this line would kind of go away and come here and then it probably just >> tie it up on the GIS and then tie it back up, you know, cut. That's a great point. >> Fix that a little normally. >> So that's something you want to fix for
this meeting? >> No. Okay. >> If it I guess if we're vote well >> because it is expansion. You know what the thing if if the vote >> it depends how the vote's going. We may want to I don't know if we can
>> like as part of amendment to say common law. >> Yeah. If you were to approve if the district would approve that >> with an amendment to expand the existing district to match the boundary of the proposed district. >> That makes just cleaning up. prior prior
to the vote we would probably >> I think prior to the vote we just put that >> and then then it's up to the >> with the people would understand that it's not really making this map any bigger it's just cleaning up >> it's almost administrative >> but there is >> but no absolutely it needs to but it
needs to be documented >> yep >> how many houses will go in there >> 17 lots 17. >> Yep. That's why I can go back to that. >> 17 lots. >> You know, there, you know, there's
there's wetlands on the property. So, it's, you know, kind of going in around the wetlands. But >> what we tried to show here is kind of the light green would be, you know, approximate area of development, disturbance, you know, clearing. >> That's what cut down the amount of houses. >> Yeah. I mean, I think I can see we had a
wetland system here. wetland systems out out back, you know, not going, you know, all back here. >> So, just kind of, you know, nice little loop road in and around and through. >> I don't have any more questions. Thank you very much. That's it's that's great.
>> I mean, there's a whole bunch more I could ask. Probably not relevant. Does anybody in the public comment section here have any questions for the developers on this project? >> You know I do, right? >> Well,
John Fortune50 drops. I'm just curious and I don't know how this is done. Fran knows and I could just simply ask you on the side, but do you typically put drops along the way for the houses that are there or is that done sometime after whenever they decide to connect? >> That'll be something we work with the
water district on. um you know so it' be another it' be cost obviously so sometimes we'd stub them off that's what the district wants us to do sometimes you don't if it's a longterm and you're not going to put them in if you have issues but that would something we would work through the design process of that
>> and work with the water district on there >> so the only drops you'd have would be fire hydrants >> yeah absolutely definitely mandatory fire hydrants probably every 500 feet you know or so we could usually trying to put those at property corners so Yeah, >> if if someone doesn't have a lot developed, you don't want to put in the
middle of the lot, they try to put a driveway and you have to move the hydrant. So, you try and stage those about 500 ft apart at property lines. >> There's a lot of line going down Bar Street on the right hand side, I would assume. See, it's going to come up that side on page. >> Yes. >> Yeah.
>> I got So, there's a lot of ledge up in there. So, I'm what I'm getting at is a town going to make you pave the street after you're done. >> We haven't got to that yet. >> This is the first step, right? They got they until they can actually put the line in. They not I wouldn't go as if they're going to if they're going to
pave the whole road, we should talk about making the crossings >> instead of digging it up after it's paved. >> But it's a great point and that's the that's the beauty and reasoning for planning board process, conservation process is it gets all the stakeholders
in the town. have done this >> on the same table, which is great comments to get them up up front, but absolutely be working with the, you know, water superintendent and the commissioners um in conjunction with the plane board. Hopefully there'd be some communication there to work those things out. It's a great it's a great point,
though. For sure. >> Even if >> I don't have a question, but I have a comment. Uh I think uh having fire hydrants there would be a wonderful thing. I I own a piece of property by
Dead Pond and uh Yeah. 29 I think it is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And uh my son lives there, but he had a brush fire and almost burned the neighborhood down and had the truck
lined up in the street with water. >> Yeah. >> And there was no water for >> That's the That's the tough thing. It's, you know, rural firefighting. It's >> Is that the house? Is that the model they pick up in the uh Some people may know. >> Uh yeah, >> that's his house. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's one of the >> That's how we identify
>> I know right there talking >> that's how that's that's a great point. It's one of the real big benefits of this is bringing that fire protection to areas that are already in the water district actually. you know, um, you know, coming I'm upside down now, you know, coming
down page >> up in there and then you even though it's not going to continue all the way down birch, you bring that that system a little bit closer so it helps the fire department. >> It wouldn't be very far. >> No, right. But but I was but my point was is even houses down here, >> you know, where
>> maybe now you can if you had to at least back up your truck and and pull off a hydrogen to fill up your tank instead of running >> Well, I understand they have 2,000 ft of hose on the truck. So, >> by the way, so that's one of the big benefits to this is that fire protection to existing areas that are developed.
That's a great point. >> We had another question. >> So, this is a citizen petition. Correct. >> Correct. >> So, has the commission done any analysis of what he's talking about revenue? How much revenue this would bring in? >> As much as we can get.
>> That's great, but that's not a number. So, >> you got to buy the house, you know. >> So, this being a citizen's position u petition petition. Sorry. Basically, I mean, the way this works is anybody can petition to expand the water district and there's a set of rules that go
through basically get a petition sign with so many people and then that goes to bas a meeting which we're having in a week. The commissioners, we have one vote like a citizen vote that that's it. You know, we don't we don't control this this >> No, but you you're going to be asked to
take a position on it, I would assume. >> I can take my position on it as a one person voter. No. No. But has the commission taken a position on it? >> I can do mine right now if you'd like. >> No, not as a board. >> We don't we don't control the ability for the district to expand.
>> So, for the board to take a a position on it, I think would um be out of line. I agree. >> Me, too. >> I would distinctly disagree that that is what would be the job of the commission. Otherwise, what's the point of the
commission if they don't take if they don't take a pos I didn't say control? You can take a position whether you support >> what it's going to be. So, how we if we can't control, how are we going to tell you? >> Because you're the water commissioners and people are going to look to you and say >> what is your position on this? Do you
accept? Do you agree? >> Position yet. It hasn't even been brought to the meeting. It's been brought to the article the at the meeting people are going to ask the water commissioners what they feel and to help people answer I just gave you
>> it depends on the houses and it depends on how much water each house uses. Now if you can tell me each the consumption of each house we could probably figure that out in the future for you. You know how many houses are going in there? How much water are they going to use per house?
>> On average what is it? >> But even but even that guys 100 a month a quarter. >> The this petition while he brought in some extra details of what they're going to put in for a housing development, this is a petition to expand the district. If this gets voted to expand
the district, they can take that plan on page two and throw it out and put something completely different in. It's got nothing to do with this stage of development. It is simply a petition to expand the district. There's benefits and and you know that have been stated today. there's, you know, people may not
want a housing development that this would be a disadvantage to some people. So there therefore, it's not like we have the entire plan. We're voting on that. You're voting on simply to expand the district and that's that's it for me to I feel as a water commissioner, my
personal views on this would sway other people's vote and I don't think that's the right thing to do. That's my position. Okay. You have any other comments or questions? >> All right, gentlemen. I appreciate you coming in.
>> Thank you much for your time. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> I'll just put them down. >> I mean, you can. All right. >> Yeah, cuz you're going to have them for Saturday. >> So, you're more than welcome to leave. just walk you like
a couple other boys and supported here. >> Yeah, because we're going to be coming back Saturday. >> I don't understand I know a negative or positive position doesn't really >> All right, there is no reason >> just want to nail down an answer. Moving
on, uh we have article 4 be before us. Um after consulting with the office of campaign political finance and legal console from Massachusetts State Ethics Commission, we confirmed that candidates are legally permitted to speak at public meetings. This is a common practice as
as many of us have seen through candidate interviews and debates. After receiving the request from Mr. Tibetan to be placed on the agenda, we extended the same invitation to the other candidate, Mr. Empty, to ensure equal opportunity. Unfortunately, Mr. Empty is out of town and un unable to attend this
evening. Out of respect for both candidates, we will defer this agenda item. Okay. Next one we have is on agenda is number four. I mean, excuse me, number five. This is to review and vote Ty Bond's proposal for grant assistance on the
community one stop growth application. >> Okay. So, we're in the process. We we were made aware of a a potential grant uh process for expansion of the water main and uh we kind of thought that limits of Shirley Road would be a good
spot. It's all industrial land and uh so we felt that we should pursue this. So we started looking into the grant uh process and uh it's it's way more uh entailed deep extensive because usually a lot of times we'll we'll put the grants together and submit them and
stop. We've done we've done pretty good with them, but this one's was above what we felt comfortable doing. So, we felt that uh we got a proposal from time bond and the proposal was $4,700. Uh in their opinion, they feel that it's
probably not guaranteed, but like likely to probably get something for a funding source. >> Uh so I I think you know we like to present it to you guys to consider it hiring time. There's other side benefits this thing. I mean so it's industrial land all all right neck heings.
>> So just to clarify this is from Lemus to Shirley Road which is going to go down past Keings Powels >> correct >> go down Route 70 >> to to the Lancaster >> to the Lancaster line. >> Correct. >> And then how far will it go down Lancaster I mean Lemon Shirley Road will it go past >> not past the bridge.
>> Okay. >> Yes. So we'll stand there because the crossroad to be >> understood the be very uh very difficult. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And this is already in the district now. There's no expanding the district for this already. >> Okay. >> So, this just an opportunity to possibly
get something. I mean, yeah, we could lose 4700, but I I think it it's worth the the risk. >> This is a fully funded grant. >> As far as we know, yes, >> it's a fully fun. So, we we we submit a project
>> and they fund the whole project or practice. >> Well, sometimes they they'll say, "All right, we'll give you, you know, it's a $3 million project. we'll give you a million and a half or something like that. So, no one knows until you till you get in >> until you apply for it. >> Yes. So, there's some other side benefits. I mean, because we're always
looking for instant connection with other towns. I know we tried the Lancaster project. That was one of the main things was into connection with with Shirley, Devons, and Lemonster. Uh so, this will bring us possibly closer to to like the Shirley water district. And then I'm not sure how things go down
the road. Khaliva Road's huge >> water problems in Lancaster also. I'm not sure how people would feel about doing something there, but that you know that that would be a huge benefit to to those residents although they're from another town. They're they're seriously hurting, >> but that's a separate separate that's
whole separate from this. This just simply is a would be a grant to extend that water main down there >> and like say there's a ton of actually invest. >> So, so I mean uh Powell has tried to expand. Yes. He's got a lot of the residents down there that are interested in it, but it was just so much money
they they they couldn't do it. >> Yes. cuz I know they they wanted to do a new >> Yeah, this came up a couple years back possibly doing >> and there was there was I think where they're talking about like that Kadings loop down past one to Shirley Road to the to the bridge and then when we
discussed this I I talked with the superintendent about gez we should just add right to the town line >> because then it does give us some some other opportunities. Um and you know if if it becomes a fully funded grant then
you know I think it would uh definitely be helpful to the district. So to follow up with that um in talking with time bomb when I first started looking into this to realize that this was a lot more. So you actually have to go through they have this AI program
that you have to plug everything into and that's what kind of tells you anybody who wants to apply has to do that first and that was the step that time bond took and that's when they came back and they said yeah it's it's worth applying for you know they entered all the criteria everything into it. So
that's what made them feel >> pretty confident, not guaranteed, >> but more confident in this project. >> And and it's not just dealing with with the water, it's dealing with the towns of the plan, >> the petitions, the Yeah, I I completely understand. I know that in I've sat down
before with some of you guys that you have done well in the grants, but in in talking to you earlier about what's involved in this, I can understand that maybe uh we it may be a little out of our expertise in this people in that field that uh can navigate this a little bit >> and have done this grant for many other
towns already. So, >> what are we looking at for a timeline and a funding source? Uh >> just come right out of a maintenance budget. >> Yeah. they probably get working on right away. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I think in that
front page was the timeline because I think they had to have it. >> Um >> is there a deadline to get the application? >> Excuse me. There's a whole time February.
So May 4th to June 3rd is um the submission period for them. full application deadline June 3. So, >> I mean, I we got plenty of time. We're still kind of in the beginning stages of this, but it seems as though like Fran said, this isn't just a here's our
proposal. This is, you know, I from my understanding with this, it's a community grant. So, it's going to be working with um the planning board getting um plot plans. All right. What's there? This is commercial. This is industrial. This is develop. This will be developed. this
what's potential for how is this going to help the community in an industrial commercial land. So, this could take a little bit of time to put it all together. So, >> I know we touched on it before. So, uh I'm in favor of this. So, I would make a
motion that we approve the um >> how much was the amount >> quote from Tying Bond? 47 >> for $4,700 for submission of the community one-stop grant assistance
program. >> It'd be nice. >> I know. >> Especially in that area. It's not really It's more of an industrial commercial, >> right? I don't see it. >> Yeah, >> you have the residential aspect of maybe trying to get an agreement with uh
Shirley and get that road or Lancaster. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, and just you could sell them water and help them out. >> Yep. >> It wouldn't have to be in the district or those those poor people. >> I know. >> Yeah. >> City runs out of water every summer.
>> Yep. >> All right. All right. Next thing we have is commissioner superintendent clerk treasure additions. What do we got? >> Okay. So, uh at 1:30 today, I received the call from Michelle Higgins from ASD. She's the uh project manager for the SRF program.
>> So, she was questioning if the water district was still going to proceed with the funding through the SRF program. uh she made a me aware that uh that we need to start considering beginning the design and treatment plant of the design of it very soon because there's very
strict deadlines and I told her I would contact time bond to discuss that uh which actually when right before this meeting I was actually on the phone with time bond they're pulling away with deadlines and all that stuff so they kind of uh said what we should be good to go and get that stuff done. Uh then
she also questioned if Lunar was uh be able to get the district residents to support the borrowing of the money that we need to uh have appropriate for the SRF which is uh usually June 30th as a deadline. Uh I told her that we would call a special meeting and I'm I'm no we
haven't discussed it but we should but I'm hoping we call a special meeting in May to authorize the borrowing and if that gets voted down then I think we call another one in June. So she was questioning if she felt that we eventually would get the support and uh I said due to the time constraints on
the PAS remediation uh I think the residents would finally once we relay the cost comparison between SRF and bond >> financing uh that they would we eventually we would get them to support the SRF
funding. So this whole interaction with mass DP took place because the special interest group, the citizens were for the water were on a public hearing saying everything they could to mass DP uh to pull off funding from the SRF
program. So people attending Zoom public hear was Andrew Savoski, John Fortune, Bill Enki, Barbara Turkington, Joan Peas, and Bob Peas. >> They got some balls, don't they? >> Oh yeah. Almost all of them spoke in some fashion of bashing myself or the water district. Mos was bashing me.
Angie Sasi's big complaint was that it did not have the authority to apply for funding. It did not have >> respond. >> No, you cannot. >> We voted on this funding um >> December. >> Yeah. In December. >> Yeah.
>> As a board to approve to have that to to approve you to have this done. Yep. So that's >> okay. >> Corre correct. Yeah, I remember. >> Okay. >> We had the we had the um >> there was invoicing from time on that we >> Yes, >> we approved it.
>> Okay. So, uh so the the big thing for this was this is the last year for the infrastructure money from the federal government. So, I I spoke to Ty Bond. I questioned them. I say it to to do a submittal. Are we talking a lot of money? >> And they said no, we've already we're just going to take the same submittal,
change the dates and resubmit. Right. >> Because we like we did it. We've already done it. >> Yes. So they said the cost is not much at all. So this kind of comes to the the uh the 400 foot radius you know and to get a survey questions came
up from the same residents you know how did you do this? Why did you you didn't get you know over law they would they did all kinds of complaints against us and it came up that you that I don't need your permission to do small little things. I think that was $13 or $1,800. I don't need you guys to give me the
permission to do it. >> So that to me for me to go out and say, "Hey, let's do this." That you gave me permission to do it. >> So I I did it and and I I think that was a very good thing that I did. So uh so the residents, this is most for the people to see, the residents to be aware
of this group and has one intention and that intention is to not to run that hickory well. That's their only intention. has nothing to do with being affordable. The the the wells operated for 15 years with no impact to the lake. The actions that
they are taking going to cost the customers of the district massive amounts of money. If this funding is denied, the district will be required to obtain funding through bonds. And if this takes place, it'll cost approximately estimate estimate $25 million more to go through bonds in the SRF program.
So because when you go through a bond, you're not only borrowing money, you need to go and borrow temporary correct financing. So it could be one years, two years of financing. We went through the water just went through with >> borrow money. And I mean Christie did good because we we re reinvested and uh
so we got some really good interest on the money. So we did good with it, but still it cost us more money. We got to pay you got to pay money to get that money. So the so when the residents come and they make, you know, come and talk to us and stuff that they make they need
to make decisions based on what they're educated on on the facts. So, uh, so I'm I'm not a superintendent of the water district. I have no hidden agendas. I I I I speak with what I feel is correct. I'm not against Hickory Hills. I'm not for Hickory Hills. I'm
I'm my my goal is to the best quantity and quality for the town of Warner. And in in my by meaning quality, I want zero beat fast. I want zero mayonnaise and I want hardness in control right now. It's the biggest complaint. I mean, I play
hockey with Mark. You wouldn't believe the people at hockey complain about the hotness in Lunberg. So, it's it's a it's a well-known thing. A lot of people are accepting it. >> The shower head's plugging up. No one knows that that's the hardness why the water's not coming out of the shower head. So, I hope the residents need to
look at this. They call themselves affordable group. It's actually 100% the opposite. Unaffordable group that can affecting the finances to this town, all the water rate payers and everybody needs to pay attention and overlook everything that comes out of their
mouths. That's all I got to say. >> I must have hit a tone with Mr. Sassi's last. >> Excuse me, sir. >> Mr. I didn't hear what you had to say about me. So, um, nope. >> He mentioned my name. Can I hear your comment? >> You mentioned everybody's name.
>> Excuse me. >> We're going to move on. >> That's good. >> So, um, I know hardness has been something that's come up and and people think that it's in a local close to what comes from the Keing
Well. Mhm. >> Um and yeah, Fran and I talked to a resident that lives on Pine Street and and and when we said hardness, he's like, "Oh, like wow." On Pine Street, you know, and and
actually I washed my hands today. I use a bathroom here. It was pretty cool. You turn the water on and it actually came out of the faucet. Nice. Because you guys must have changed the faucet or something. change the area >> because it used to have like these little jets coming out of it because of
the hardness that jams it off. So, you know, that part I get. Um, I'm going to stop there because I feel I'm going to go off on a tangent when I talk about um the way the public information is and the way things are going.
um little embarrassed to be a pres president of Lunenburgg when I when I and that's where I'm going to leave it. >> All right. I I will get way >> I'll Yeah, I'm done.
>> I'm going to go next. >> Excuse me. >> So, this is uh Mr. Resto's last meeting basically. Uh well, he will be here for the final meeting on Saturday. He's been doing this for 29 years and um you know
I don't care what you say 29 years is a long time to do anything at le you know lease of sitting on this board which can be very difficult at times. Uh John's been here for forever. He's helped out a lot. He helped out a lot with this building. Um I appreciate you John. I'll
tell you that right now. I know a lot of people kind of just look at you as a grumpy mean old man, which I do that sometimes too, but I I have I really appreciated the your different approach and different thought process on a lot of the things we do here because you
come up with things or different ways of thinking or different approaches to things that I I I really haven't. And uh so I think it's a testament to you and I think it's testament how boards work where different individuals have different qualities and and uh I've appreciated I've appreciative of all the
things that you've done for us and uh I wish you well and uh I wish you happiness if you can achieve it. >> Thanks. >> I'll achieve it. Believe me, >> Mr. Chair, I' I'd echo that. You know, when I first met Mr. Espazito, he
probably won't even remember it. I was kind of scared of him. you know, and uh and and and you think about uh I think about um a lot of guys with rough exteriors have hearts of gold
and uh John, you're definitely a a man with a heart of gold and the the amount that you've given to the uh district and your time and effort and even in physical doing stuff, you know, if I can do a quarter of what you've done in the
time that I get to spend here. I would be amazed. >> Well, you know, I'll tell you, I was I was hoping to stick around go for a few more years. My main goal was to see the treatment plant built and see
the water line come out of woodlands down to the treatment plant. But over the last couple of years, the that you got to put up with just isn't worth it anymore. At least not for me. I mean, I'm 83 years old. I've been doing this for a long time. I
don't need this stuff from these guys. I'm going to let you guys handle it. >> Thank you. I really appreciate you passing that. >> Good luck. You're going to >> Mr. Woodward. >> Thanks a lot, fellas. YouTube, Christie, YouTube, Fran,
and I want to thank everybody over the last 29 years. I mean, I'm a jerk. Everybody says so. But I've won elections for the last 29 years, so I can't be too bad a jerk. I want to thank you all.
Not all of you. Most of you. >> I'm done. >> Okay. >> I just wanted to follow up on one thing. Is that you guys all said? Um, so there's been lots of posts out on on social media and I just wanted to put
out there that we had mo you know most people questioning things say why why isn't the water district responding why aren't we answering questions I think I spoke with superintendent and the chairman that I think we as the district myself who answers on Facebook
we don't monitor Facebook every day that is not my job we post our information our meetings our facts everything when it comes to comments back and forth. We don't I I myself am not going to respond and I'm pretty sure the board agrees
with me that none of us are going to respond to comments to accusations that if a resident or a group has a specific question that they would like answered, you're more than welcome to call the water district. I don't have time to monitor Facebook all the time. >> They're on the agenda. And if you if I
cannot give you the answers that you want, then you're more than welcome to request to be put on the agenda as an as an item on the agenda and we can answer your questions. But I just didn't want to put out there that that the water district is ignoring people and
residents. That's just not how it's done. We're not communicating back and forth through social media. So, there was one of the posts like no response from LWD and uh I saw it. I'm not responding. I think KLS, you have a water problem. I got someone
there in 20 minutes. You got a true emergency. Not not the that goes, >> right? And that's that's how this this works. >> What do they call those? Warriors, keyboard warriors. That's they're all right there. >> If someone has an issue or needs to have questions answered, the first step for them would be to call the water district
to talk to for some reason you don't receive the information that you think you should have received or you have further questions about it, request to be put on the agenda. We will gladly have you come to the agenda with the items that you're you're looking to clarify. That will give us the
opportunity to make sure we have the correct information and answers for you and we'll have a conversation there. Okay, which leads me next into which is public comment which is next. Uh, in the past it seems like public comment has gone a little sideways from where it was
meant to be. Public comment is just that. It is public comment. It's not a conversation back and forth with commissioners, etc. I more than welcome public comment. I want to hear your comment, but we're going to try to keep public comment to a simple three minutes. I'm going to try just keep it,
you know, the inform informative, but it's not a back and forth with commissioners because I just I don't think that's what it's intended to do and I don't think it's doing the service that it needs to be. That being said, is there any public comment? >> But back to the agenda if if you need to speak an interaction.
>> Yes. >> Put you on the agenda. >> We'll put you on the agenda and then we'll have it back. Absolutely. >> Sir John, I want to personally thank you. Okay. You gave me a call two or three years ago and says, "Geez, can you come up and help Paul?" So, when I've been here ever since, I think I've only
missed a couple meetings. >> Thank you, Paul. >> When I first met you, was doing a road job and I didn't let you through and this GUY STICKS HIS HEAD OUT the window and I won't say exactly what he said. And I go, "What? Who the hell's this guy?" So, I walk over, he says,
"Everything okay?" And no, everything wasn't okay. But we became very close friends. and I regard you as a close friend. Your first impression, I go, "Wow, this guy scares the hell out of me." You know, but in all seriousness,
you do have a heart of gold, and I will. And and you're a good standup guy, and I'm going to miss you. Okay. >> I'm not going to die. >> No. No. >> I know. But you're not going to be sitting where you're sitting now. That's what I'm saying. >> A lady's going to be sitting over there. >> Yeah. Well, that's all right. You can
sit next to me. How's that? Okay. >> Plenty. >> All right. Okay. But thank you from the bottom. >> Thank you. >> Yep. >> Mr. Svaskki. >> Andy Starvaski. So to clarify, you said we're talking about the SR funding. In
the December meeting, you voted to approve funding. Is that what you said? >> I'm listening to your comment, sir. >> Well, I've watched There's nothing in the December meeting minutes that anything was voted on to approve funding for anything. And my comment is the
deadline to submit the SRS uh form was back in June, five months earlier. And in the May meeting prior to that, you did vote and it is in your meeting minutes that it was the Lunberg Watt District Board was not going to pursue
any funding. And my comment is that Mr. McNamera did submit and that was there was no other comments being made. there was nothing by the board saying that you had changed your mind and so he submitted it and then in December he announced to you for the
first time that he had submitted it and there was no discussion in December about approving that fund. So I there's nothing in the meetings. I've watched the video and even if you did approve it in December, that was well past when the submission was made and clearly after
you've made the decision not to go forward with funding that year. >> Okay, further comment. Uh do we have any other public comments? It's for >> John Fortune and 50 Hemlock Drive. Uh
just one comment and that is it's unfortunate that this round of SRF funding looked exactly like the last round of SRF funding. Uh there was a lot of conversation during the summer last year that all the well fields will be included uh in whatever was submitted
and and uh for SRF funding that did not happen. It is only two of the well fields not the third one. So one is still being left out our main well that we use today. uh it eventually will need treating treatment but that's not part of that funding and that's unfortunate
but there's a lot of frustration on that that those were the comments that the board made I spoke to one of you personally and you thought that's what it was uh going to be going to be when it was submitted and well it did so and it wasn't you okay so anyways um
that's unfortunate and we're going to continue to go round and round until we have a complete plan pulling all the well fields together that could be submitted, presented to the people and then that that gets voted on. >> Thank you.
>> Okay. Is there any any other public comment? >> All right, Mr. Espazito, this could be your final one. Oh, do you have anything, sir? >> I'm I'm good. >> Okay. All right. Um I really don't know where to start. I
got a whole bunch of stuff here. I don't know how much time you guys have got, but this is my last meeting. I'm going to get some things off my chest. You fellas ain't going to like it, but that's too bad. It's the truth. That's something I don't think any of
you know about. Mr. Lonzo, you're first. In the ledger it says if the Lunberg Water District is looking for someone. No, that's John Fortune. I'm sorry.
Wrong page. Says, "Over the past couple of years, I have been at the water district meetings that Bill has attended and his great input input to the conversation, always been on point. I've been here 29 years. I think I've
only missed six meetings. I don't ever remember you being here with Bill MP. Now you tell me. Why don't you tell me those meetings? >> John, we're not gonna we're not going to call people out. This is you can comment. This is your comment. >> All right. That's my comment. >> Never seen you here with Bill Mk.
>> A lie. Okay. The other thing is your special interest group. I need some names. I want to know who they are. I want to know who the chairman is. You guys know all our names and everything about us.
Who are your members? Either you, Sadiski, or Mr. Fortune. You got any names? >> There's not a Q&A. You can state your business. >> Okay. How are we going to get their names? >> This is not
a minute. >> Okay. Definitely a form for you, John. >> All right. Well, I can find out anyhow if I really go into it deep enough. Okay. The other thing is um Mr. Mi at one of our meetings or on M on
Facebook or wherever you guys communicate supposedly has saved us the water district $350,000 for something that was in the pilot study that he didn't like. Now, Mr. Remy is not an engineer. He works for Bell
Laboratories. He never was an engineer. I like the guy. Matter of fact, I think he's the only one who tells the truth. And he didn't save us 350,000 cuz we never spent it. All right.
The other thing is Joan Peas, >> keep it going. >> I am just relax. >> I'm working it over in my head. Joan Peas was talking about our reason down to the well
the woodlands >> we don't we don't protect it. Yeah, she's trying to tell us that at least she's trying to tell everybody another lie that the easement down there hasn't been worked on or hasn't done anything with it and we haven't protected it. So,
it's not valid. Now, I didn't know Joan was a lawyer. I don't know where she came up with that. There's bements all over town, all over the state that haven't been touched for years, 20 years, 50 years. gas
ements for Tennessee Gas and Unatel, electric lines, overhead foul lines, right? When are you people going to start telling the truth and stop twisting everything that the water district says? You know, I could go on
with this forever. Ever. Hey, Joan Peas is a retired school teacher. I hope she didn't lie to her students as much as she lies to us. See this picture right here? You know about this, Mr. Snipy or whatever your
name is. This right down in back of your yard. This was December 27th, 2021. I got a hundred of these pictures. All right. This is a picture of somebody in your backyard when the lake was down
December 27th with a mini excavator. I don't know who was running it, but it's right there in the picture. Anybody wants to look at it, right? Digging out a beach in the lake. No DP number, no permits from conservation,
no order of conditions, no nothing. All right. Digging in the lake now. You're so worried about your precious lake. Why did somebody blow the whistle on this guy? Or was it you? >> Was it you? Right in your backyard. >> No, no, no. We're just we're just calling we're just calling.
>> No, I'm just asking. >> I'm just let you know. >> Okay, I got you. >> All right. And you know and the reason this was brought up to the conservation commission. You know what they said? We can't do anything about that. You know why they
couldn't? Cuz I think the guy who did it, I know who did it. Cuz I know who rented him the excavator. The reason nothing was done about it because he was a member of the conservation. That's why that's why nothing was done. Now, you ain't telling me that none of
the neighbors down there didn't know what was going on. Every one of them knew was going on, but they kept their mouth shut because they're probably going to want to do the same thing someday and they don't want the whistle blown on them. All right, I'm done. I'm going just start and get started on you guys. I
could go on for hours. I know more about you guys and what's going on down in Woodlands. You know, >> Mr. Bur, I will take a motion to Okay, you are we all you set, Mr. Chair? >> Can we Can we allow Mr. Espazito to do
with this one last time? >> I make a motion we adjourn. >> So beautiful. Thank you.