Thank you. All right, we're in. Uh, welcome to the Lunberg Water District Commissioners meeting. Today is July 23rd, 4:00 p.m. Pass. I'm going to start by playing saying the pledge of
allegiance. I allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Um, we had some warrants floating
around. Maybe those are all signed. Minutes are Mr. Chair, make a motion we approve the minutes of July 9th, 2025. So all those in favor I
>> I review and vote the approve marker CPA yearly audit contract with >> I didn't really pass around the same contract every year. >> He did go up $500. >> So we are at 16,000.
>> He did go up quite a bit last year. >> Yes, but I've had >> it is what it is. >> It's requirement. It is. Um, and from what my understanding looking around, looking at all this, this really isn't that much. There's not many small firms that will do this anymore.
>> Um, they're getting he does spend a lot of time. >> I look, I I I mean, >> just letting you guys >> I think he does a good job and I really kind of enjoy having him do it because it does >> shine to light a lot of different it makes my job a lot easier. >> And I think it's good that he he does
it. He's getting done the last 10 years. >> Yeah. uh that he kind of knows the routine. So if he sees something out of line because he's got a little there's little formulas he does. So he looks at a lot of stuff that >> other people I don't think would. So I think he does a good job.
>> Mr. Chair, I'd authorize uh motion authorize superintendent chairman to sign the yearly audit contract with Mark Bueller or CPA. >> Superintendent and chairman. >> Superintendent and chairman. All those in favor? I >> I Okay,
>> we'll get management and governance. >> Uh I think that's you. >> Oh, sorry. >> Okay. uh review public engagement question regarding future treatment options. So we went over that quite a bit last uh
meeting. Is this a final? >> So this the draft that I put in front of you guys is I took all of the stuff that we crossed out last time. Any little suggestions? So the only thing that we didn't have which we just got like an
hour ago was on the um the scenario breakdown. >> Mhm. So that didn't really change. So that we just got from Lou from time bond. So I think it's I mean if you guys were comfortable with all the other stuff that we kind of cut out to make it
shorter, >> I think that's good. So now it's just a matter of how you guys want to move forward with. >> So on some of the scenarios I I had a meeting with uh Mr. Mi for a couple hours >> and it was actually a really good
meeting. Uh I told him I enjoyed this. I said we should do this, you know, if he has more people that want to come in and sit on, we just just talk about stuff. He didn't learn a lot of stuff. >> But, uh, in his opinion, scenario four, which is just the PAS treatment at Keadings,
he said, uh, which he he totally he opposes because the hardness would be through the roof, >> right? >> But he says, no, no matter what we do with Keings, you have to have, uh, a redundancy source to it. So in his opinion the Keing treatment plant only
should have an interconnection with some other town as part of that cost. >> So to me that that did make sense and it it kind of and I think we should add it. I mean it's on this sheet we have now it's a separate scenario but I think that should be tied directly to it.
>> So scenario four should be tied. A lot of these involve something else that should that needs to happen or knowing that you're not just going to pick one and you know
we're going to need to do something else but I need a plan to move forward because you're not just going to treat Keings well and I agree with you. You're not going to treat it without having a backup. We're going to we're going to eventually do some sort of treatment at the other sources. This is what we're looking at right now.
And then when we do one of these, we drop that scenario off and we're going to have to add because we're going to still need to have right redundant sources. >> Exactly. >> So basically you're saying scenario four or five which is keings only whether it's with softening or not softening almost must have scenario seven with it.
>> Yes. You know what I'm saying? which is seven would be that in unit >> and the the unknown is what the on andm's going to be because how much water are we going to rate etc etc etc >> well the goal not to be
emergency but but then you're heading back to kings with the hardness is going to be double what people are seeing now and that's that's not >> right >> that is not >> to me it's not okay so >> right I I I I simply don't still it's just one board member I think that's
even an option. I really don't think it should be on the table because it's not something we're going to do. >> It just I can't I mean, you know, I mean, so >> so what does that do? Take Keings out completely? Cuz if you're if you don't
soften it, you're doubling the hardness. >> I guess the only way you can do Keings is, you know, if you mix it like we're doing now is really as far as the hardness goes. We're only mixing it at a certain point because we're not being we can't mix it at the source. We don't have the capability to mix it at
>> No, I I know what you're saying, but like so in general heings runs at night, right? I mean, that's pretty much what we do. >> Uh they we we run most of most of our pumping is at night. Uh we get a day we have, you know, the high demands like turn the irrigations on now,
>> right? >> Uh so there are days times that we'll just run that by itself. >> Correct. Um but I'm just making things up here. Let's just say we did that in a municipal with towns. And so on an average day, not in the middle of the summer, we're just, you know, pumping
this thing at night and filling up the tanks. Would that suffice enough of mixing going up in the tanks? And you still think that people like along Reservoir Road or whatever would have wicked hard water just because it's still in the pipe, you know? I I I >> they they Yes. Reservoir Road, they're
at full hardness all the time. >> Yeah. >> Because Lancaster have never mixed >> So they're going to they're going to see it worse. >> Yeah. Well, they're going to say the same. It's the same >> because as of right now, it's getting pumped, >> right? >> Right. The odds of them using enough
water to suck it out of the tank before that well kicks on is just it's not really >> right. It's a 16inch >> main. Yeah. a week for it to >> So what you're saying though is if you change that location and eliminated Lancaster and you're coming in from Townsen, if you did Townsen and Keings,
more of the town, not just Reservoir Road, is going to be feeding off of >> Yeah, trueings. Because you're >> and the intent of Townsen is not to never even use it. It's only >> Kings is down. We need to take it offline to do our maintenance >> ultimately. Yeah. >> So that uh
>> I'm just saying Yeah. Thank you. >> How would you connect that up? >> Go down Northfield Road, then West Townsen Road. >> They got $13 million roughly to tie into >> Yeah, I was looking at that. That's that's that's like double what I thought it was going to be.
>> I found that pretty high. >> And by the time you get around to it, if you ever would be double that. >> Where would you hook up to cows? >> Uh that they actually don't have enough pressure to feed us right now. They're looking at expanding their system towards
uh it's Pine Ridge the uh yeah Pine Ridge area and putting in a new storage tank that could feed Lunberg because when I was on the board in towns they they have an area in town that they they couldn't feed themselves. So they were wondering if Fluenberg would feed
into Townsen over near West Road area and I said well we'd have to talk to about stuff inside. So anyway, so they're going to put a looking to put a new storage tank in to raise their uh elevation in that area, put a booster pump in and to cover that
area, which in turn could have enough pressure to feed back to Liver. >> So are you saying as of right now like this is not possible? >> As of right now, it's not possible. >> So can't do scenario seven, right? >> Uh well, they're in the works of putting
it in. So I I think by the time all this happens it it will be an option at some point and if it's not an option then it could be the option to us we'd have to pay to put in the tank and to to do it. So which I don't
>> So should we get that across somewhere in this survey that this >> is not an option? >> Well no not not that that these scenarios that we're presenting to you are just step one.
This isn't none of these options solve everything. What we're looking for is how do you want us to start? Because I think people need to understand that like if you don't really read all this, you're going to look at it and go, "All right, what's the cheapest cuz that's what I'm going to go for." And they think that's it. So I don't think
anywhere in here did we really say like this is just step one. Like >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so like I got to be honest, it's like it's I can't say it's confusing, but it is a little confusing. I'm pretty well verssed in this. And if you sent me this in the mail, I'd be
really kind of confused. >> So I think I think that I mean obviously there's a lot of options out there on how to approach this. And I kind of agree what you're saying is like at this point when we send the survey out it's just to get the feedback from
the public of you know I don't think we need to have all the the this is dynamite this is rocks all what we're going to do. We just need to see >> where we start heading on this and to appease the public of you know what what
they're going to go along with. So, like this scenario seven, which I I like. I mean, I think it's it's it's a it's an option, but if it's not feasible right now, I'm nervous about even advertising it. You know what
I'm saying? >> You're you're saying they're going to do it. >> They have money appropriated in plans and they and they and it's to me that's they're going to do it. Not I mean, we're going to treat Hey, we're going to treat PAS. Right.
Yeah. >> This all came when we did the tour of their plant where he told me this is when he said he said, "Oh, we're looking to feed up in here. We could sell water." >> I mean, >> and uh I'm not sure.
>> So, that's the thing. So, it's not it's it's uh it would it would have to happen at a at an approximate cost only if they did their project and they're looking to do their project, but they really don't have the funding or it's not plan ready.
So, scenario 7 doesn't exist. >> Well, plus scenario 7 doesn't really wouldn't be like our first option. >> This is what we're kind of talking about is what's our first option? Our first option isn't to spend $13 million to tie into towns and because that doesn't
>> that's that's a backup. We we >> you know like we need to focus on we where are we starting here? >> Hold on. >> And then what's the second step? >> Playing devil's advocate here. What if it's not a backup? What if that's now our primary source of water? >> And I I'm just saying look at I'm just
these are the questions that the public's going to bring up being like well why can't we just spend $13? I yeah I'm not a big fan of this scenario because of of a lot of different things. One it's not even plan ready. It's a it's in somebody's mind as I would like
to do and the to be determined on annual onm could exceed what we're talking about for keyings treating hardness. So why I >> So I understand. However, these I'm I'm telling you what what is going to be brought.
>> What happens when that one main feed there's a brick. Our entire town is down. >> No fire, no water. >> I've spoken to towns and I've talked to the the the board. Uh >> so the the superintendent is the one
that's was pushing this. >> So I I brought it to the chairman of the board. I'm like, "Hey, is this something we can do? What are we talking about money? Can you can you support this and what how far can you support this? You know what what is available to Lunberg? You're going to have a set, hey, this is your max day.
>> Y >> I said we we need to know know all that stuff. And he says, yeah, we we've been talking about it and uh different members of the board have different rate ideas, you know, some are more cheaper, you know, or get it to us, you know, so
because, you know, they can they can make money. It's going to be, you know, something we have to have. So he's like, "Well, you that they're looking at playing the game. Hey, we can't just raise the price because they're not going to take it. They're going to do another option." So, but anyway, they're still in the the angling figuring out do
how much water do we have and what's their demand down the road? Because I mean, if we were selling water to somebody else, hey, you know, so Shirley wants 200,000, let's say, and and we say, "Okay, but we only have it. We need you can't go more than that because we're going to need it for our future." So, this is where because who knows
what's going to happen in towns. So uh we had looked at this before we put the keing well in. We looked at purchasing water from Fitchburg, Lemonster, whoever we could >> and it it was very simple math. This is the cost to put in the pipe and the in
the building and here's the cost you have to pay Fitchburg every year for a a quarter of the amount of water that well could produce. And so you start looking at hey here's a here's a payment of paying to Fitchburg. Here's the loan payment. Well, the loan payment's way less than you're gonna pay Pitchburg.
>> So, it was no-brainer. We're gonna put our own source in. 20 years is paid for. We're done. No more payments. So, and I think that's the same thing with Townsen. It's going to be just I hate the bash of sewing with the sewer. I mean, there are they have no control over what they're paying. Lemon store
Fitsburg said, "Hey, we're doubling the rate. What are you going to do? You're done." And so now could be the same thing because I mean Townsen wants to do it now. So you might come across with a, you know, pretty decent price. >> What's in 10 years? >> If it becomes our supply.
>> All right. Once again, I'm just going to be playing devil's advocate here. Um, what if that was a like temporary s solution for Lunberg until
you know we've figured out how the public wants to deal with peas? >> You know, that's an expensive. >> I personally agree with you. I don't really think that, but I'm just trying to say like I know the public's going to ask these question. So, I'm just trying to get these things out here that, you
know, is this uh something we explore that in the next 5 years the the feds change the rules on this, they move the goalpost. I don't know. I I'm just Is it Is it something we look into or not?
>> Well, I mean, the it's already in motion. I mean, yeah, they're trying to figure out pricing and what's available. So, I mean, they they don't >> it's not there's too many unknowns to it, right? I'm not saying it's a bad scenario. There's too many unknowns to it.
>> But, you know, >> I'm not for buying water from anybody. >> Oh, I I agree with you, John, because we >> you're going to pay forever. Like Franny says, do what we got to do. Get the money, build this stuff, put it in. 20 years or 30 years, it's over with. Not
Not a 100red years or 150 years. >> Just think Bloomberg started buying water from London. That's right. >> It was a old brick building. It cost it cost a ton of money. That's why we started putting our own sources in. So, we we smartened up and did our own thing. >> 100% for interconnections because that
that was one of my big pushes for the connection with Lancaster that was going to tie in because Shirley has the potential well the horn packaging that the factory there. >> Yep. >> And uh Lank has a has a short distance to connect the lemons there. So I mean we could have inter interconnection with
several uh municipalities. Yeah. Although Shirley couldn't feed Lunberg but with the assistance of Shirley Lemster we could or if we needed to feed Shirley or assist Lea which we we have in the past. >> But it wasn't a case of you know hey let's do this a full-time thing. It was
just an emergency thing. Hey help them because you know we would you know they would help us too. >> Okay. I mean, I'm just I'm glad to see that that that's written up, but I think it's I don't think I want to start putting it into all this because it's it's too much of an unknown. I think I
agree that the focus here should be is how are we going to treat our water? You know, I'm just like I said, I'm not I agree with all this, but I'm just trying to bring up questions that I think the public would ask. So, as far as that scenario seven, it's like I
I hate as soon as we print something, they're like, "Oh, you can do this." >> I don't think this I think scenario 7 should go away, but I think the dollar amount should go to scenario four. >> Okay. >> As a reporter redundancy, >> right? >> Okay. So, but but uh yeah, I agree. We
could never send this to No. >> Oh my goodness. >> So, we have to scenario one is not an option. >> Yeah. >> Scenario two is not an option. Scenario three is an option which is the combination of pick and Lancaster. >> Uh the Keing well scenario four to me it
is not an option. Five is just insane money. That's not an option. So pretty much to me you have scenario three or uh scenario six. >> Okay. So, I got just honest an honest question here is,
>> you know, I think we got I think you got the right idea, Freddy. It's just that every time we look at it, we figure out a way to talk ourselves out of it. >> So, let's let's be real here. What happens to the Keing? Well,
>> well, eventually if if not utilized, it'll uh be taken offline, become an inactive source. Um, >> you're saying if we don't treat it, >> if we don't treat it, >> right? >> Uh, I mean, because the two ways of
treating keings are both not appetizing to me anyway. You know what I'm saying? One is pumping out hard water that's I think is not usable and the other and cleaning up is not financially possible, >> you know. So I'm just kind of Yeah. You
know, I mean right now we can use that water because we can mix it with other waters and it it mitigates a little bit of you know it's okay, >> you know. But >> so let's say down the road >> so down the road now I guess I could see if scenario three went into effect and
we had a treatment plant here up and going. I could see in the future doing scenario four treating for PAS not hardness and mixing it back in like we're doing today. >> So we could actually kind of tie into what what Mr. M was saying we move the
keing treatment to Lancaster AB. So maybe maybe we do a dedicated main to Lancaster Aings and then >> and then either dilute it to the PAS. >> Sure. But but but now you're you're
talking a large amount of Lancaster which couldn't do it but say large amount of Lancaster and Hickory Hills to offset the amount of Pass in the key. So >> amount of hotness >> and which would drop the Pass and the hotness. >> Yeah.
>> Nothing's easy. >> No. So I mean for as far as we're really talking about this survey. I think we should I like the survey the way it sits and I and I I don't feel the need to introduce scenario 7. If you want to add
that cost to scenario four or five of an intermunicipal kept connection I agree because the reality is is that if we did do four or five we would then have to have some sort of redundancy and the quickest and easiest cheapest way to do that is intermunicable connection. Correct.
>> Correct. Um, so if you want to add that number to that be like plus intermunicipal connection, I would say that's a fair we should almost be adding that to everything. >> Well, we should we should it shouldn't even be a scenario. It should be a you
know note in order for redundancy and backup we are going to have to have an inter intermunicipal connection that's going >> if we had scenario three would we have enough >> uh would scenario three satisfy our uh redundancy
>> I think it determined be determined by the design of the treatment plan >> okay >> but but let's look at the numbers now so you got kidings to treat for PAS is $21 million to do the interconnection with Townsen is $13 million and that doesn't
include any water. So $13 million then you start buying water above that. So to me I mean it's kind of crazy you look at $8 million is not really a big deal but that's the difference between between interconnection with town and the $8 million for for for keepers.
>> So to me I would I would say hey we we need redundancy. I would say let's skip the towns and and let's treat the kings Lancaster and Lancaster uh Lancaster and Hickory Hills. >> I agree. We got to have we got to have Hickory Hills has got to be involved in
this somehow. >> That's the toughest part. >> Yeah. Good luck. >> And then and then then it comes down to it. the engineers not not me the engineers uh is it's not really worth putting in $20 million treatment plant in Lancaster rapidly limited amount of water
available a consistent amount of water available >> so okay so let's look at the big picture now okay we don't use hickory rails what what are we going to do we we have to have something else and where how you know so
someone needs to I mean I I don't know how to do it Right. All right. >> They need to tell us how. >> Okay. >> They don't know. >> So once again, we're we're we're have great ideas here, everybody. But the focus is this survey, right? I mean, this is what we're kind of working on
right now is what to do with this. I these are all we we have done this at nauseium for hours and hours and hours. >> Agree. >> I think the way the survey sits as written as you hold in your hand is the survey that you go out. >> That's just what I think.
>> Yeah. Get a start on it somewhere. see what it comes back as. >> I think it needs a little >> I don't know, a little more >> love on the uh >> it has benefits and concerns. I just it needs to be stated. Everybody's going to
look at this and go Keing's POS only. >> I I just You know what I mean? >> So, let's add the redundancy. >> Yes. So, that's what I'm saying. I think something needs to stand out to let people know like you can't just go for the cheap one. Like you need to understand that >> there's more to this.
>> Yes, you might do this step one, but it's a lot more for step two. This will hold us over for now. And this is good. You know what I mean? Like there needs to be some way to for people to know that we can do this, but there's a whole another loan coming next.
>> I I I >> And not that we have to give them that second option, but they need to understand that this doesn't solve it. Listen, what this this survey here is simply to go out to the town and get feedback, okay, of where people who care
about their water and want to fill this thing up, they're going to do that. We're going to get this feedback. if it comes back is overwhelmingly the cheapest one, that's when we're going to have some sort of meeting with the public here being like, listen, I know this this seemed to be the most popular
and given the pros and cons on it like for real and it may change the mind, but for right now, we've we've sat here at this board and come up with the best what I believe was the best approach to this and it fell flat on its face. Okay,
just it just did. Okay. So, let's put this out there, get the input from the public, and we we can try to educate them on the on on what we feel is the best option, but at the end of the day, we're not doing a thing unless >> twothirds of the people vote for the
thing. So, let's just start there, grasp what is out there. We in the meantime will still try to, you know, I mean, I'm I'm on board with this, but I don't, sometimes we put a lot of effort into it and it's >> we need the public. >> Yeah. >> So, we can re Yeah, we can react to what
they >> we can react to what they say and then maybe that'll help us steer our ship a little bit better and we can instead we're focusing on seven scenarios and maybe things that doesn't exist right now. Maybe we just need to focus it down onto three >> where we know this isn't going to happen. Public noise is going to, you
know, that's why we came up with this. So, >> I I'm okay with that. >> Yeah. I like just sending this out as is. It's >> got to start somewhere. >> Yeah. It's not perfect perfect, but I think it's darn good. >> Yeah. >> Send it out. Let's get some feedback. >> Well, I'm going to send it to um I know
um Bobby Tington had reached out and I >> sent her this and literally we just got this an hour ago, so I sent it to her. So, I know she was reviewing, but I also have a Zoom with um Nicole tomorrow. So, I'll send her this stuff and maybe next meeting if Nicole kind of tweaks anything, changes words, whatever, we'll
come up with, you know, if I hear back from um Bobby Turkington or anybody else, >> we'll tweak some things and then next meeting we'll >> maybe present a final draft. >> Yeah, I would like to do that. That's mean to try to get something final that we can vote on and can go through. >> All right.
>> Did anybody have any anything to add? just nothing really 100% with this but tied on the PAS resident was in here today you know complaining that you know the the federal government needs to assist in the funding of this and I said that they were I said the last loan with
the SRF that principal forgiveness that was their >> big contribution to it so I said that that's kind of all run out now there was a uh Governor Healey just did I think it was 200 >> million towards the PAS so that there is more money going to be available I'm not
It's going to be principal forgiveness, which would be the key thing for us. >> But, uh, and I was just once a resident was in here saying, "How are we going to do this?" >> Right. >> And I said we agree. >> Did you tell them we had $17 million in our pocket that we lost?
>> I didn't I didn't >> They didn't They didn't mention that. >> Uh, all right. Moving on. Uh, commissioner, superintendent, treasure co additions. >> Uh, let's see. Well, on on the PPAS
side, uh we have new testing requirements for Lancaster have wells. Now, we test wells two and five which run together and one and four run together. That isn't all the time thing, but the majority of time that's how we do it. They uh they came back with
elevated levels of PAS. They DDP responded to you immediately need to go take another set of samples. We did haven't got the results back yet, but depending on the results because we were so high that uh we may have to go to monthly testing for all the sources.
>> $400 a test. >> Yeah. Jeez. >> Well, what are you going to do about it? >> And and yeah, and no way do I I think this is horrible. I mean, >> true it is. >> No way do I want to build, you know, $40 million treatment plants and
>> we don't have any choice. Nope. The old days when I first started working here, we didn't even do pH adjustment. We did no chlorine. We pump water out of the ground straight. That was it. >> That's how it started. >> So, it's it's changed a lot since how the wells are >> delicious.
>> Yeah. Well, I mean, >> it's I agree. It's it's it's frustrating to sit here and kind of even go through all this, but it the reality is is look around. costs go up on everything and you know I mean I wish this wasn't even
a thing but it is and >> we'll make the best of it. >> That's all we can do. I mean we'll have to change if all this does take place. We'll have to change how we you know billing structure and everything like that. We'll go to monthly billing and >> well we can we can get it done. I mean
no one's going to like it but we can we can do it. We'll do our best to make it >> you know as affordable and efficient as possible. Uh yeah, what else? Uh auto cars still at uh at Zach's. Something else was broken. They
kingpins wore through something so they had to get a couple extra parts and they they were on order, but it's coming. What else we got? >> Uh next Wednesday. >> Oh, we're going to do the T on uh >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay.
getting prices on pipe and stuff. >> Yep. Pricing I got sent for quotes on piping, >> but we still couldn't even tackle it this fall. >> I'd like to get on quick. >> This year was kind of messed up. I mean, with with the the big main breaks we had that kind of messed us all up on the
flushing. So, everything got delayed, pushed out, and uh yeah, this was a this was a tough year so far. So, >> I know was out there today cleaning up all looks like fences. >> Yep. I had to get permission from the state. I just got that the other day. Sent it to MDR. So, they're wrapping
that up today. Uh we're going to go uh assist them on pulling the bags out of the catch basin. >> Yep. >> Uh because they they don't have a piece of machinery here. So, we're going to go in the back pick up the covers. So, >> so tomorrow they should be done. >> You going to use our tractor to tap that
main and move it into the gate valve a little ways and stuff or what are you going to do? Are you going to keep going after you get this connection connected up? down. He's just You just >> Oh, just a T panel. Yep. So, the T panel we got the pipe. We'll get the pipe pretty quick. >> Y >> and then we're looking at renting a
30,000lb excavator, which is about with the extra bucket. So, we have two buckets, trench bucket and a cleanup bucket. >> And uh it was under 6,000 a month. So, should should be huge money. >> 6,000 a month. >> Yeah. Just it'll be on the
>> It was like 55 anywhere between five and six. >> Is that least option to buy or just lease? I mean, I just rent >> rent for a month based on weekly rental. Yeah, I tried to buy one, but we got two commissions out. Don't want to buy one. So, I thought these two guys were businessmen.
>> We are good ones today. I might say, if I say so myself. >> Well, would you rather Let me put this to you then. Would you rather spend $200,000 for for um engineering that you'll never see again and it'll probably be wrong or would you rather
spend $140,000 for a machine that you'll own for less money? >> Wow, Mr. Espazito, that is comparing apples to oranges. >> It is >> absolutely. >> Well, the way I see it is 160,000 is 160,000. I don't care if it's made of apples or
made of oranges. >> Okay. Okay. Well, I mean like I don't ever want to pay for engineering, but if if it's required, you >> It isn't required. >> Okay. Then don't pay for the engineering. >> It's required. >> But that's what he say. We need a machine >> instead of going out to bid and having a
contractor to do it and pay an engineer to design it and go out to bid >> where we would buy the machine and just do the job ourselves. We don't even need an engineer. >> So, how does this how does this prevailing? >> How does this correlate to the $5,000 rental? Well, it's 5,000.
>> The idea I know the answer. >> The idea is that we do our own main replacement with our own machinery and own staff so that we don't have to pay engineering and prevailing wage to get these jobs done.
And I'm I'm open to that at some point. But we >> I am too. I think it's a great I think France plan I saw how we written wrote it down how we're doing all this. I think it's a great idea. And I also think it's great that we're going to spend $5500
on an excavator for a month. I think that's a bargain because the first time that thing breaks, it could be $5,000 that we don't have to pay. So, I am all >> Okay. So, so the only thing I got is uh rolling. You got the two turns. I think
we're pretty good around the two turns. After that, I think we're going to have to start heading into the road a little bit. So, that's my difficult thing. H how are we cutting the road? I mean, we could just saw cut and pull it out. >> Uh or we could rent a >> milling machine and mill I mean or or do
we do we buy equipment? I mean, so >> I think just saw cutting it in and pulling out is the easiest way to do things. >> I mean, so we we could we could actually rent a walk behind the cutter instead of our little >> that would be worth investing in. >> Big enough.
I would. So, the town bought a Sorry. Did I interrupt? >> Did I interrupt you, John? I'm sorry. >> Yes. >> Go ahead. >> The town a while ago bought I believe a 16inch road saw 16 maybe was a touch bigger >> and they told me what they paid for it and it was very reasonable. I was like,
"Oh, it wasn't bad." And >> I would be able to walk behind >> behind I mean push walk behind but it was large and you know it could >> some of the not very expensive. Yeah. I mean, 3,500 bucks or something like that. And I was like, "Oh, so if that
made this job easier, I'd be all about Yeah, because you're going to use it more than once." >> So, I mean, I think it would make a lot of their jobs easier >> cuz we've rented them in the past. But, I mean, somebody buy one, probably a good >> Yeah, I would definitely, but I I if I was sitting off the road, I'd rather saw cut that, pull the asphalt, get, you
know, throw that over to Keings. Do you work before you pave, you may have to put another saw cut line if you beat that edge up a little bit, but, you know, >> Yep. No big I think it's just a project. Do we have enough staff for that project? >> That'll be time. I got I have Jeff coming in. Jeff's all back. He's ready to work.
>> Oh, okay. Good. >> Uh, so I have Jeff uh downsid is Ryan is doing his CDR classes for the next five weeks. So he's gone for more. >> So uh >> good. >> Yeah. And what what time is class? >> 8.
>> 8. So maybe we can sneak in him to do the wells on the way glass >> and then we don't have to go straight to >> acres. Did you give any thought to a pie cutter? >> A what? >> A pie cutter. It cuts hot top. Put it on the bucket.
>> Yeah. Every time I've tried one, borrowed one. It doesn't really get them to work too good. >> No, you got to have the hot mix has got to be fairly warm. But it all depends where you're using it, you know. So, but the goal is to not go in the road. When we get down near Metal Lane,
there's there's a lot of cement, stone walls, and I really don't want to be >> have Mark have to go fix. >> I think it's going to be good. This This will be good. You know, we've we've been doing pretty good on uh replacing the
bad veins. We got Massav down both D Mackeis. And then down the other side, uh, Parkway, what else we got? Whale Road. So, we're getting a lot of the bad mains done. If we can get rolling in, that'd be great.
Next problem spot is Pleasant Street. >> Pleas tough because we got the brook, which will be a directional drill. So, yeah, >> can sneak through that one pretty easy, too. >> Cool. It's all good. >> You think, Mr. I got nothing. I didn't
cut you off too much. So, >> I make it motion. We injured. >> Hold on. Can we do public comment? >> Oh, well, we don't have public comment. >> He's next on the list. >> You don't have anything to do. I'm good. >> Motion to adjourn.
>> What do you think? >> Well, that phone. Yeah. Look at you got to get home.