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that this hearing is being recorded in accordance with the requirements of the open meeting law. Please be advised that this meeting will be broadcast live through local access cable on Facebook Live on the Facebook Public Access Facebook page and will be able found on

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Looney Public Access YouTube channel within 24 hours after the meeting. I'd like to introduce you to the board. To the left is uh Leah Aane uh board secretary. I'm Alfred Grebell. Um I can

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see who's where. Uh that's uh David Blat, Patrick Alan, Tony Niccastro, and uh Karen Menard. The way the hearing will proceed is Leo will read the application and any other

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submitted communications. The applicant will have the opportunity for comments on the application or submission of additional documents. you'll please come forward to the mic, give your name and address. Board members will have the opportunity to ask questions they might have on the application while you're at

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the mic. There will be a public comment period. There's nobody from the public here right now, but if anybody should show uh you would please come forward to the mic, give your name and address, and address all comments and questions to the board. And with that, I would ask Leah to please read the petition.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have a petition from Ryan Proctor, one Main Street, Sweet 1, Lunenburgg, Mass, with a primary location of 1325 Massav, Lunenburgg. The owner being GCJT

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Realy LLC. Property address 1325 Massav, assessor's map 62, parcel 3. It is a special permit under Mass General Law 4A, section 9. Was a written zoning determination or

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denial issued or received? Yes. Our project description. The project proposed project involves the installation of a business sign for the proposed professional office building located at 1325 Massav. Applical code of Lunberg section

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250-5.2C. Water supply public. Sewage disposal system public. Property type commercial. The applicant is J G C JT Realy LLC of

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105 Chestnut Street, Lunenburgg, Mass. We are applying for a special permit for dimensional variation. The existing previous use of the property was residential vacant. The proposed use of the property is a professional office. Please describe how

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the proposed action will prevent conditions that are injurous or dangerous to public health unduly hazardous because of traffic conditions, danger of fire or explosion. The proposed sign is located adjacent to the site entrance and set back approximately

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21 ft from Massav right of way and will not have any adverse effect on site distances nor vehicular or pedestrian travel within the right of way. Significant fire or explosion risk at the location of the proposed sign is not

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anticipated. Please describe any material adverse effects on the value of the land and buildings in the neighborhood or on the amenities of the neighborhood. The proposed sign location is unlikely to have any material adverse effects on the

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value of the neighborhood properties. The proposed sign will be located approximately 21 ft from the edge of Massachusetts A pavement and is consistent with the business sign located on the adjacent parcel. Please describe how the proposed use or activity will operated with reasonable

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regard for order and unsightliness if in open use. The proposed sign will be associated with a new professional office building and will be constructed on granite posts adjacent to the property entrance. The setback from the property line is similar to a budding

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business signs and will not be unsightly. The sign will be installed within. Please describe how the proposed action will reduce and or prevent noise, vibration, dust, odor, heat, and or glare at the lot lines in amounts

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clearly detrimental to the normal use of adjacent properties. Significant noise, vibration, dust, odor, heat, and or glare is not expected to be generated by the proposed sign. The sign will have downward-f facing lighting as depicted

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on the submitted rendering that will not be detrimental to the normal use of adjacent properties. Additional information relative to the applicable section of the code of Lunenburgg. Strict compliance with the 20ft property line setback would place

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the sign approximately 40 ft from Massav right of way, reducing the overall visibility of the sign from the traveled lanes. In 2023, the zoning board of appeals voted to grant a special permit for a similar application on an abuing property now identified it is as 1295

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Massav. Hearing information hearing 7826 at 7 p.m. Lunenburgg Town of Hall, second floor narrative. The applicant is seeking a special permit for dimensional variation

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relative to setbacks for other uses. Section 250-5.2C to place a sign closer than 20 ft to the street line front lot line. The applicant is seeking to place the sign 2 feet from the street line front lot

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line. Along with the application, there is an abut's list, site plans, building plans, proof of payment to the ledger, copy of a determination,

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a sign layout, and a sign rendering. >> That is all. >> Okay. Thank you. And with that, uh, applicant. >> Thank you, Mr. chair and thank you for as always for that uh thorough reading. Um I feel like I always feel like I come

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before you and I don't have to give a presentation but I will. My name is Greg Roy. Um I am before you tonight as the applicant owner of 1325 Mass Massachusetts have through the uh LLC that was referenced. A tongue twister

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GCJT. I have four kids so you can do the you can do the math on that. Um and uh our intention just to just by way of um bringing your board up to speed is our intention is to um construct an office

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building um for the for the purposes of um moving DS and Roy to that to that space. Um as you'll see in a minute from the the sign rendering, we do we have set the building up. It's a 6,000 foot building um which again has been

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permitted through site plan approval and storm water management um with the planning board um as recently as I think a couple weeks ago we went back um it was pre it was previously permitted as a 5400 foot office building back a few years ago but um that was done as part

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of the larger development project. Now that the subdivision of 1325, the the 1 acre where this building will is to go has been subdivided and purchased by um by us. Um we decided to to go back in

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and amend that site plan approval. So that has been completed. Um so it's our intention to uh construct the office building for the purposes of the primary purposes of of our uh engineering business. Um but there will be a leasable space. We're proposing to have about 1 th00and square feet of the the

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building to be a leasable space. So the sign that we're proposing is um just to orientate you. We we submitted a lot of information. I I essentially gave you the same level of information that we submitted to the planning board, but a lot of it's a little bit sup.

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Um but if you have the plans in front of you, sheet C 2.0 of the site plan package is probably the best one to look at. Um, this the this is brighter than the surface of the sun, but right to the left of the uh of the driveway entrance

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uh where it accesses Massachusetts A is where we're proposing the sign. I can't even see it from this far away, but um we're proposing uh to put it closer than 20 that your bylaw would require it to be 20 ft from the the edge of the rightway. Not the street line, not the

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pavement line, but the edge of the rightway. Um the street the edge of Massachusetts A is approximately 20 ft or excuse me yeah roughly 20 ft 19 or so feet away from the um from the rightway

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line. So strict compliance another 20 ft would push push us almost 40t back uh with the sign and it's just it almost just becomes a little bit of a moot point to put a sign that far back in the street. So um we're asking to move that closer. we would still have it

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completely outside the rightway uh by two feet. Um and as was stated in the um in the application package, there's still plenty of space. That 20ft space um on that apron would give plenty of adequate sight distance space. So, we're not

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going to be obstructing any any um you know, safety views or or anything like that entering or exiting the site. Um I'm going to flip the page. Hold on. So, we're proposing a I guess it's a

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monument sign, if you will. Um, fairly classic look. Two granite posts that would be uh 6 ft apart, 8 by8 granite um with uh with a uh with sign boards in between. Um we're proposing two 9 square

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ft signs as the primary um primary surfaces. One would be for there would be one for each each of the spaces. Um and then the uh the uh address uh number sign above it. The total height of the sign would be 6 1/2 ft. Width again is 6

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ft. Um we're proposing to light it. So, we I had uh Damon McUade Architects uh in town here was the one that's been that we've been working with on the architectural package for the building and I had him put together these renderings uh for you just so you can

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see what it would look like um uh in at least in rendered view. So, here it is in the in the day the top one uh you can see the sign right there behind the uh the pavement. This would be as you approach the site coming from the uh from the east on on Massav. you' be

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you'd be seeing the building and the sign. And then at night, we tried to give it a try to do it some justice to what it would look like at night. Again, we're proposing an LED strip, I'm sorry, down lit strip of LED lights below the

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the top number placard. So, you'd have that top number placard and on that bottom surface, you'd have a LED strip that would that would turn on and down light uh the uh the signs below. So, uh, the bottom picture there, uh, attempts to show what that would look like at

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night. Um, again, all down lit so we're not going to have sky pollution and that kind of thing. Um, we just want to do enough so that people can see where we are. Uh, particularly in the shoulder seasons in the winter. Um, and that's really it. Um, that's that's what we're

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we're here tonight for. The bottom picture is just a a cleaner view of the architectural just for your reference. Um, you have the entire architectural package just in case you for your ratification. Um, >> but uh, yeah, that's it. I just wanted

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to come and >> be present myself this time. I meant to be there at the planning board two weeks ago, but I had to represent another project. So, um, anyway, happy to answer any questions that you folks may have. >> Thank you. Um, so basically the sign is 22 ft back from the edge of the road.

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>> That That's correct. I think it's 20, >> which is the same as what uh their next door neighbor. >> That's correct. >> I'm not exactly certain of the exact dimension that he asked for, but it we're in that same ballpark. It might be a couple feet different here. >> Pretty much. >> Yeah. >> The same. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I don't have any issues with it.

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Uh I open it to the board. Any questions? Any >> I do have one. Greg, are you going to the down lighting? Is it going to be 24/7 lighting like all night? I'm just a little concerned about the people directly across the street. Yeah. Um, we don't anticipate being 247. I just want

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it to be um, so I mean I think we could put that on a timer. It would not have to be. It's not a safety thing. It's just a matter of >> sure >> probably until say 8 or 9 or something clock at night. So we're happy to if that's something the board would like to condition. We're happy to Yeah, we're happy to

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>> put a timer on it. Turn it off. No, I just I just when I'm looking I'm looking at the um an overhead of it right now and there's unlike the parcel next door where the um >> there's nothing directly

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really across the street residential wise. It look I believe that there is that is a that's not a garage across the street. >> No, I think that's the garage. I think that's >> if it's the garage I think that's I didn't click on you correctly. I think that's the garage, but be that as I may, I I don't need it on all night. I'd

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rather save the uh It's an LED fixture, but I'd rather save the the electric. >> Not sure anybody's living at the garage, so I think my concern is mitigated anyway. >> Yeah, that hasn't happened before. >> That is true. >> Any other questions?

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>> I just clarification, Mr. Chair. Um my understanding on the side bylaw was that uh the main sign could be the nine square ft and the rest of them had to be smaller. >> Am I right with that or is that is that >> I believe you are but I'd have to look

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it up for a long time. >> So that's the only concern is that the second secondary sign would end up having to be smaller. >> Well, I'm not asking for a relief from you folks for that. So if it's I'm just asking for the the place to put it. So, if the building commissioner decides that we have to make the the secondary

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sign smaller, we'll do that and we'll just narrow that up. But >> I understand. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm not I'm not asking for any relief on the from the bylaw on the actual size square footage of the sign, just the location for relief on the on the 20 ft. Do you want to ask for relief on the sign?

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>> No, I don't I don't want to do that. >> I I'm I I >> The bylaw is difficult to translate. the signed bylaw. Yes, it's difficult to translate. >> Um, so >> no, no, no further questions. >> Anyone else have any questions?

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>> Hearing none of that. >> Seven, it's 7 ft tall, is it? And significantly smaller than the one right next to you. >> Six and a six and a half. >> Six and a half. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Smaller than the one. Yeah. Lower than the one. >> Still can't see. >> Is it further? >> This this high. >> The one there feels like it's closer

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than 20 ft of caveman. Is it? >> No, I don't think so. So I think it's out of the rightway, you know. So >> it is because they were before us and >> yeah, >> they just say that's why I knew because it's the same thing. >> I mean from the street. >> Well, I think >> that one's a lot closer than 20 ft to

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the >> Massav east down um Massav as well. It suddenly because you're you have to pass the woods and then the signs right there. I feel like it just suddenly jumps out at you which is why it may seem closer. >> Yeah. I didn't feel like it was much further

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back from the utility poles when I was driving by today. >> Yeah, you know, I'd have to look at it again, but I I I'm pretty confident it's pretty similar. >> No, I think that one would be much taller and no. >> Yeah, >> good with it.

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>> No other questions. I'll take a motion. >> Um I'll make a motion that we approve the um Is this a special permit or merits? >> It's a special >> deviation. It's a deviate. So that we approve the uh deviation and allow for

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the uh sign to be placed um uh 22 feet from the um street the the 20ft mark on the street. >> I'll second that. >> Okay, we have a motion to second. >> So if I could, Mr. Chair, would you mind

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just saying two feet from the rightway line? I think that's clear. >> Okay. Yeah. >> So that weap Yeah. Yeah, >> the sign to be uh 2 ft from the right right away. >> And I'll resec that. >> Okay. Thank you. I'll take a vote. A

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>> I >> I >> I >> I >> and I and you know I have to read one more. >> Yes, sir. >> Do you want to read Do you want to recite it from memory? >> Okay. >> Okay. The special permit is granted with the contingency that a petitioner

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complies with all licenses, regulations, statutes, ordinances, any and all applicable local, state, federal boards or agencies with jurisdiction over the premises. The special permit is subject to a periodic review by the permit granting authority or the enforcement

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officer to ensure compliance with any conditions. Non-compliance to such conditions may result in revocation of this permit. A copy of the board's decision shall be filed with the town clerk within 14 days. Any party agreed by the board decision may appeal to

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superior court 20 days after the decision is filed with the town clerk after certification by the town clerk that 20 days have elapsed since the decision was filed. You should have it recorded in the registry of deeds. No special permit shall take effect until

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it has been recorded and the special permit shall lapse within two years unless substantial use of construction has amened. Good day. >> Thank you very much. >> The new building sign. >> Appreciate it. >> Good luck. >> And welcome to U Mrs. Bernard.

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>> Goodbye. Okay, that being done, we do have to do something over. Um, apparently you have to post now when you're going to vote on on the chair and the vice chair. >> Oh,

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>> so we're going to do both. >> Huh? >> So, I'm going to ask first for the chair. Anybody nominate anybody? No nomination. >> I nominate you, Mr. Chair. >> I second.

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>> My third. >> I was hoping for the side. >> I don't think so. We can't get along without you. >> You're a wealth of information. >> All right. With that, I'll ask for a vote. >> Oh. You willing to take the accept the nomination? >> Yeah, I will.

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>> Okay, then. And um >> till I can get some more better. >> Do we get some better folks on the board for you? >> No, no, not better folks. Just enough. >> Okay. Um I I I vote yes. >> I >> I

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>> I Okay. Thank you. And now we have to do vice chair. >> My first congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Now we Now we have to do vice chair nomination. I would nominate Patrick. >> Y >> second.

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>> All in favor? I >> I >> I >> and I >> Thank you. Did you want it? >> I guess. >> As much as I don't want to be the chairman, >> no way. I >> not notice I'm learning in Lunberg. You

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step back when they were asking for the chair. >> You can't just sit here, right? You have to step back. Step >> like right. >> Yes. Step forward. Everybody steps back out front. >> You're just standing there, right?

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>> All right. With that, uh, I'll ask for an adjourn. >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn at 7:22. Second. All in favor? I I meeting is adjourned.