bring Commissioner Poto in once he arrives starting at 8:01 for our um pre-commission meeting looking over our consent agenda any questions from that
are we giving away trees on Arbor Day we are yes no questions from consent and then looking at old business the final reading ordinance 1178 for milestone inspections i don't know if you had any
questions about it there's really any questions last time we we went through it for the city attorney um addressed it any other questions regarding it no moving on to uh new business number 13
we have a development order request of Bay Reores Mel Enterprises Incorporated you have any questions in regards to that one for Amanda yeah I do
um this is the one there were some questions about the um lift station at one time yes ma'am okay and I saw Chris's response that it was okay yes
ma'am why is it okay now Chris so it it was always okay the lift station on Cashmera that this development is going to has adequate capacity the lift station down the line lift station 47 which is located at the foot of the bridge here that's the
station that will need upgrading in the future it needs upgrades now not because of the development because of everything it pumps to um everything on the east side east of 77 north of 12th Street pumps to that lift station so it is
already in need of of bigger pumps a bigger panel and possibly a larger force main from lift station 47 to lift station one which is just across the canal but that is not on the developer to do that is part of our master plan anyway to upgrade that station so it's
nothing to hold up this development as part of tying into Castle Marift Station additional questions yeah I noticed um from the the minutes from the planning board that was voted down um what was the concerns that they
had sir from from the the um the planning commission yes ma'am um basically it was because we we had a room full of people um some of whom were from Kashamara some of whom were county residents on Grassy Point Road um who
were concerned about all sorts of things really just don't want it there I think but you know at the end of the day um there were concerns about traffic there were concerns about uh how low the property was but obviously when they come to develop it when they go to the buildings department they are obviously
going to have to elevate according to what's required with flood plane management procedures um they're going to have to go up quite high which is why they're going to uh not have any living on the lower they're going to be town homes where you can put a car underneath but they can't have any storage or living accommodation on that floor cuz
there'll be breakaway walls um and um the the traffic that's a county road that they're going out onto um so the developer has spoken with the county the county had issued them a permit but then when all people got angry about it um
they rescinded the permit but they have now we have it in the packet they have now said that they do intend to issue them a permit if you approve the development order they'll issue a permit i think they're going to make improvements to that roadway um but so I can I anticipate there being people come out because you know and I and I we
don't the planning commission doesn't often get a lot of people out angry about something it was a bit like the grease pro thing um so I think they just had a few concerns which I which I think you know the developer has kind of like addressed all of them since my question
would be that the HOA is suing the people that that is suing the developer so has that been resolved or are they still under yeah initially what happened was um because they wanted to have an
exit uh ingress egress not a general one for regular cars but just for the garbage trucks and for our emergency services um going on from that culde-sac on Cashamara they were going to have a entrance there for our fire trucks and
police and things but they didn't it wasn't wide enough and so they bought some land from somebody who lived on Kashamara they the person on Kashamara sold these people a piece of their land um and the homeowners association said
that it was illegal for that person to do that and so that was what the issue was there as soon as that as soon as they realized that as soon as they said that they were going to sue and everything they didn't actually the developer didn't find out about that until the planning commission meeting um
they basically gave it back it's no longer part of the project so it's it's null and void it's gone away okay yeah i mean I don't know if the homeowner association still has beef with the person who did it but as far as this development goes it's not connected
in any way okay that's good and also kind of I guess an ethics question here so I know we're not supposed to talk to the boards before a vote um I guess this would be for our attorney but whenever I see in the minutes here that like let's say in this particular situation it's
voted down five to two are we as the commission allowed to ask why they voted a certain way after the vote has already been completed ellen can you repeat the question i'm sorry okay so after a plan the planning
commission or any other advisory board votes after the vote has already been completed are we allowed to reach out to them and ask why they voted a certain way um so I mean the way it so you can't have prejuditial conversations right um
and so and if you have a prejudicial conversation you have to disclose it it doesn't mean you can't have that conversation you just have to disclose the conversation and the nature of that conversation publicly before you vote so assuming that you did have a conversation and you talked to a member
of the board and asked them their question you would simply have to disclose that conversation to the public at at the beginning of the of the hearing for the approval of the development order now the followup to that is someone opposed to your position
um after the vote could challenge your vote because of that action right um but that is that's a a longer kind of conversation about when you when when your vote is tainted versus not um but the purpose of the Jennings disclosure
is to disclose any conversations that you have that could be prejuditial or would affect your vote okay so even though it's a different board so okay that answers my question i'll just uh Yeah one of the things we've done in the past and we can do it for this is we have invited or asked someone from the
planning board to come and speak during that time to give us you know ins so we can ask questions to give us insight on what Yeah what the board was uh I think that might Yeah time yeah and I and I and I would um agree with the mayor that that's a good approach to to
getting your question answered without um having any sort of kind of um outside the hearing conversations yeah that's smart i like that and I don't know if the attorney would know the answer to this question but I remember I think it was at a commission meeting I I talked
about how a lot of times as a commission our hands are tied on development orders because as long as they're abiding by all state and federal things and I brought this situation up and Miss Meyers brought up that in this case is not totally true we had a choice and I I
don't know what that was all about um would you know Mr cole um well I don't know what the context of the conversation you have with Miss Myers um I can tell you that depending on the nature of your approval the the standard of review is different so we have what we call quasi judicial
decisions and we have legislative decisions um for instance like a comp plan amendment is a legislative decision where you have a lot more leeway to make a decision based on your determination as a council member or commission member
um you know your the the rational basis that you may have now when you're in let's call let's say a reasonzoning um you're tied to a certain set of factors that you have to consider and as long as that application and applicant meets
those factors you your hands are tied so right when you're exercising your land use powers um what you're approving matters a lot um because that's where you have different abilities based on
what the application is for so um if I understand it right this development order still ties the development with um is it called cash no sir it doesn't it doesn't connect with it anymore not not for they took
that um emergency exit yes sir so there's only going to be one entrance on that one road yes sir our entrance exit on that road and how many units it's going to be again 38 or 38 yeah 19 duplexes which is 38 and ours requires
if it's over 50 that's what requires one okay um the other question I had that was brought up to me was um they said that there's they seen bald eagles spawning over there is there any requirement for that if they're going to
develop the area i mean if it were a comp plan amendment if it were large scale then they have to do an environmental assessment but they've already got that high density land use on there okay okay thank you you're welcome what are
the plans for you know it's kind of an L-shaped piece of property yes ma'am and I I understand where the duplexes are going or the town houses yeah but how about that section that goes close to the uh water they're not asking for
anything on that they're only asking for approval for a development order for the town homes what they say is that I think in the future they're thinking about maybe um asking for a single family home there or maybe two single family homes because obviously that's waterfront um
but at this point in time nothing so what we really need to look at is what's before us which is what has been applied for all right that's a single family home that's right in the middle of that L-shaped piece of property there's no single family home there now there used to be one single family home there that
whole property used to have one house on there that house was demolished and so now it's just vacant property but they don't want to develop on there at the moment it's a bit like um the Circle K project you know how that whole there
was a larger parcel like a rectangle that had the land use amendment for but then the Circle K project came to you with like a carve out on the corner but and then they also came with a development order for the storm water ponds for the parent parcel but there's
nothing uh has been decided on that parent parcel when there is something a development order will come to you if in the future they want to do anything on the rest of this parcel other than single family home if it's a single family home they go to the building department to get their building permits
if they want to do a a triplex if it's a duplex they can go to the building department but if they wanted to do a triplex or anything more than that they would need another development order any other further questions um
yeah if you don't mind Mr cole um when Miss Meyers available if she doesn't mind calling me because I I just want to know what she was trying to say in that conversation we never really talked about it yeah I'll follow up with her and I'll have her and I'll have her get in touch with you i mean on a development order
on the development order level you're looking at compliance with code right um and making sure they're not deviating so I I'll follow up with her and get the context and then I'll ask her to give you a call okay thank you sir yeah no problem uh one more thing i know that uh I think Mr snyder was the chairman
during this time but he's not on the planning commission anymore right so could we get someone from the planning commission maybe the vice chair or someone to show up to this meeting yes sir i'll ask I'll ask him to come yeah yeah yes sir i like that suggestion from
the mayor so absolutely and then Chris had one other comment so we I know we discussed the the uh sewer and the lift station but also the water when it was modeled it is less than the required 1,000 gallons per minute for fire protection so what you will be um
looking at Tuesday to approve has a dedicated fire service connection stub out for each unit so it will be a sprinkler building um once they apply for their building permits they have the connections put in in the water system now
thank you number 14 city attorney discussion of possible approval approving an amount of $1,000 to property located at 11:06 Wyoming Avenue uh yes sir so this is a nuisance
abatement from talking to M myers I think you guys haven't done a whole lot of these but um anytime that you do a um an actual cleanup of a property um you know what we do is we assess those to all the costs um associated with that cleanup
and we have the council the commission approve that lean um which we then record in the official records and if not paid um we put that we use the assessment method that we're allowed to uh to put that on the tax roll
any questions what does this have like a lot of trash on it or something sometimes it's debris uh trash uh yard a mess all that okay they got plenty of time to fix right yes yes thank
you number 15 um discussion of possible approval to award beautifification grant phase two this was a DOT reimburseable grant we received last year and um bids came in only two contractors submitted uh the
lowest bid came in at 119,800 and the next bid was 194,000 and how much is the grant for the grant is for 151,000 so it came in under the grant amount and this will be for putting
additional landscaping at both entranceways and then at Mosley Drive at Mo Road and at 24th and 26th Street intersections oh nice mhm it'll help tie all that color together but the grant will only get 119 won't get the whole 51
right uh that's right that was my question right any further questions all right and number 16 city attorney discussing uh discussion regarding our policy number 96 for
adopting or Yes sir um it appears that you have a board policy that dictates how you do board appointments um I think I don't know if you've all had a chance to review that um it's looks like it's a little bit um past or before most of our
times um but it dictates that you know each board member gets a nomination for boards and then that's approved with the consent of the commission um you know it's a perfectly good policy if it's what you want and if it's not what you want then obviously we can make changes
to that policy all right thank you um open for discussion it made reference to a deputy clerk yeah I noticed that too yeah that could in that in that we Yeah I need we need
updated yeah sure we can definitely It also uh made reference to u some kind of manual that the board members are given did you read that yeah when they first get appointed they get a letter with I
guess a manual and how uh works in the bylaws do they still do that they do get they do get the but they if there are bylaws with that particular board they do get those um and every year we have to send in every and some of you may receive them uh to the e ethics board if
you serve on the board um you your name is submitted to uh the exits board as well and so we have to keep that list updated um I don't know how all you feel um I have my opinions of what I would like to do with this um obviously it's almost 30
years so I'm sure there's some updates that need to be made to it and I'm sure it'll take a couple beatings before we we can fine-tune it but I'd like to have it where whatever position we want to fill we advertise it for x amount of days and then obviously if it's a board
of five then each one of us has some seat that correlates with us so when that board member goes away we the ones that nominate it and then it gets voted on by the commission i don't know how you guys I mean that
that is kind of uh in the policy already but it could definitely be worded better to be more explicitly say that right if it's a board of five now if it's not a board of five then I'm not sure how that works um me personally like like to take
the planning board for instance there's seven mhm me personally you number them one through seven and so C1 would have one C2 C3 C4 and then C5 for the mayor and then the other two just I guess we just have discussion and vote on it like
we did in the last one that's just kind of how I feel i don't know how you guys feel about that so like with the planning board you're suggesting like uh five by appointment and then I mean all of them would be by appointment but five correlated to appointments from a
commissioner mayor and then sort of two at large per se right um that would be go from there okay and then and this is probably a good one to discuss because I don't know the history on it but I I talked to like some of the other commissioners and mayors from other
cities and um all the ones that I've talked to they don't have a board of adjustment and so I was like that's interesting and uh I said so if you have variances what what do you do with it and it all goes to the planning board um I remember when I was
on the planning board we very seldomly got together i mean it was like I think only two meetings I've been to i don't know if it's still like that or not yeah do you know the history on it maybe um maybe two a year we have had years
when we've only had one we've had years when we might have three but very very rare yeah which is you know good because that means most people are keeping to the codes right right and and I guess what I'm Well first do do you know the history of why how it got started that way and I'm I'm assuming that maybe at
one time maybe there was a lot of varian I have no idea it was like this when I arrived here yeah um I guess what I'm getting at is if they're only getting together that often is it really and I'm just throwing it out there for discussion is it really worthwhile to
have that board the the the board of adjustments which is interesting with the other um cities because the board of adjustments is a decision-making board but if you know they're not happy with that decision and they make an appeal they do appeal to the commission whereas in some cities it goes to like a court
or something um the planning board is not a decision-making board the planning board makes a recommendation so I'm not sure how that would work with the variances because they would make a recommendation I guess to you guys so I know Panama City when it goes to the
planning board that decision is final so they they're a decision-m board I guess so and I'm not sure how that works but in Callaway it goes to planning board but then it also goes to the commission so I'm I'm not sure how that works and maybe the city attorney can explain i
mean I think with the board of adjustments it when we're speaking of community engagement and citizens being involved in city government uh it still allows that where we're allowing more citizens to have input insight be involved in government as well and to uh
you know dissolve that board with but then that's less citizens that are engaged and and and involved um with the city as well and uh to Amanda's point I mean you do have those different decision-m boards so for example like uh can't remember the exact name of it but
the contractor's construction board right so it would be similar to that where you know they're a decision-m board and then if there's an appeal and they go through that that process for appeal right so I don't know i just if they're only getting together like maybe
once a year maybe twice a year it starts making me question is it really worth the time to have it the home board as opposed to the planning board cuz then you know Amanda you probably got to be there does the city attorney got to be
there you know those things cost money essentially um there's there's also different uh requirements for a variance request so we have to send letters out to people who live within a certain distance there's different public noticing requirements so other than the
board there are kind of different things that go along with it mhm and there is a charge yes and there's a charge yeah right so I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if you guys That's a good point and I guess on the other end if I look at if they're only meeting once or
twice and that's that means that that's as often as people are making those requests to be reviewed versus the planning board meeting more frequently because they do have I guess easier issues to handle per se and then
primarily they're just there to what we're going to look at and make a recommendation to us whereas with the uh board of adjustments what they are meeting because there is something that's critical that they must address all right so for our C I guess that means that there's not as many variances and
other things that are they're following the rules yeah on regular I'm assuming I'm and I'm just making an assumption here but I would imagine back when they did it and I don't know when it started but I'm sure probably at one time maybe there was a lot of variances and they're like let's have it as a separate board
which probably made sense back then yeah um I just uh and I I guess the question is can we make the planning board the decision making of the board of um of variances or not you know not saying one way or the other
it's just something to think about did you all research to see when we established the board of adjustments no sir okay i mean to Commissioner Warren's point you can do that if you so choose okay
if we do that then we need to we need to get very specific on how we select you know um like you were talking about the 1 2 3 4 5 we got to really fine-tune that because we got to get to the point to where if they're making
decisions um definitely want to make sure we're going through a process of voting who's in there you know so and if we do the one where each seat has their own nomination we need to know who that person is cuz I don't know what that is
right now right there's a mention also uh in the older policy of a liaison is that a voting number oh you're talking about the school board one right yeah i wasn't sure what that was either yeah never happened in any of the boards that have
been established and many of these boards for instance the community services board was established in 2019 i know that and that was kind of established by the commission um by vote on that particular board um the board of
construction that board was in effect and then reestablished I think in 2020 by the commission um and then uh code enforcement magistrate that that board has always
been in place now I do know when those happen sometime you do have a liaison there and because it is a legal hearing but other than that I don't know what the liaison is but they're not voting members they're not but I I think that's
the other thing is we need to list out all the boards in our policy so we know exactly just for a simple fact of it makes it easier on us or it would make it easier on me and I also like I I know that there's some that are appointed some that are not it seems to
be the case or is every single board that commissioners appoints we vote on them we vote on the members that are on that board but we don't necessarily have a as Commissioner Ward was pointing out every board isn't connected to one of our seats correct yeah yeah the beautifification board isn't connected
to our seats but the application's made and we still approve it right um usually goes through the consent agenda we review it we approve it yeah um so we still do all the the appointments to the board but just not choosing the member doesn't necessarily be on that board
according to our seat kind of kind of like when you did the debt review what was the other ones the charter review those ones before you first got in office we each nominated a person right that we voted on and and I uh one of the things we you need to decide because
those are committees those are considered um at any point you can dissolve those if you want to so those are committees and then you have your official boards so um I think that's one thing you need to decide on in terms of
you know differentiating between boards and committees because the committees where you you'll uh choose um the cirax committee the finance
committee the charter review committee um those are the committees that you have uh put in place that you choose um those particular people and some of the then you go to the boards which are the
pension boards as well you may choose I think you have one person that's board appointed from the the pension boards as well so it's surely a difference of uh responsibilities and a difference of how those boards are managed because the
committees could be dissolved by any commission at any point got it yes cuz those are the team resolutions that we approve that is correct so the boards are like mandatory once you establish a board uh it's
chartered oh so if we make any changes to it it's going to have to be voted on by the residents then if it's in the charter right or they're they're part of our charter where it's like the debt review committee financial review committee right we create the resolutions and then just each year we
or whenever it expires and we just renew it um same for the charter same for the search tax we just renew those each year um because they're not included in our charter um or when I say charter just the entire document like the boards you can go see those actually in the charter
so if you make any changes to them then that's got to be voted on by the residents it might be smart to add in the policy something that points a review to the charter for those boards you know when it describes the boards up top you just make a little note that says to see boards or whatever see
charter or whatever just to so that we don't have to have this conversation we've had it once but there's going to be future commissioners and mayors down the road no that's good uh one of the things I have thought about is uh and Cole you can help me to see if this is
even possible um is that we as commissioner mayor um actually be I guess not necessarily a part of a particular border committee but sort of the uh commissioner liaison um in the sense of attend the meeting and then possibly come back and just give us an
update on hey this is what happening in this meeting for example um I was on call for the finance review committee meeting the other day so then I can say hey this is what the finance comm review committee discussed as related to our storm water of course the city manager and others can do that as well um and so
I have thought about that that it might be one or two that we're part of but that that way we can actually know what's happening right quicker um you know in regards to these boards just to to keep that community communication going so that that is something that
I've thought about um so uh but I don't know if that's a a conflict or not um you have any thoughts on that uh Cole yes sir yeah um so I've done it a few different ways um we've done it the two ways I've seen it done is you depending
if you're standing up like an ad hoc committee like a charter review committee where you you know you want um it's it's got a finite mission and a finite you know time that is going to exist um sometimes the commission will will say okay we're going to appoint one member of the commission to serve as the
chair of that commission um and then that that commission member you know kind of is acts as the the liaison but also um is a voting member on that board because these are advisory boards they don't have authority so there's no conflict there
um now the other way you can do it is as a as an exeicio member to sit in on that on that board meeting um as a non- voting member you can do that as well um you know I've done that you know sometimes we'll do advisory boards where
we'll have you know members of the chamber of commerce or we'll have you know representatives from different entities also serve as non- voting members to allow them to be liaison to different different agencies so you can do it kind of as the non- voting member
or you can do it as a voting member we can do it either way depending on what you want to do my thought would be certainly as a non- voting member because certainly don't want to have any influence from the commission as to how that committee or board votes um right and you know would
want us to be I guess as non interfering as possible even in the discussion uh but certainly as a I would certainly think as a non voting member um so nothing for us to decide today out there just I agree on the non that I
thought about all right well thank you Cole and then I'll talk more with the attorney we'll follow back up on how that may how that may look for us uh I also like Jaime's idea about advertising because
that serves two purposes you you get who's interested possibly but it also informs the citizens of more what's going on and you know um with the commission or with the
committees and okay I think we could just simply put it in the policy say something like two weeks notice or something like that and then that there won't be any confusion everyone will know there's advertisement out there now for the board of adjustment
Yeah if you've had any bites off of that um and to your point um I what I will say is on the beach what we do is we have um an automatic 14-day um advertisement but we do give
the commission the ability to wave that so if there's a vacancy we'll inform them and give them the opportunity to wave that if you let's say you have a a member who is just up for reappointment who wants to continue serving um we have what we do on the beach is we say hey so
and so is up for a reappoint do you want to advertise that or would you like to that person is willing to serve again would you like to reappoint them to give you the option one way or the other but you can just do a mandatory 14 days I like that yeah we Is everybody in agreement with what Cole just mentioned so yeah we like that if you could note
that for insert into this to this policy yes sir just see and if I can address one other thing I did just review your charter you can your your charter requires a planning commission exist um but it does not necessarily dictate the
powers or duties of that of that commission okay thank you yes sir um with the um with the current uh vacancies for the board of adjustments it is currently being advertised um and it is open till the end of the month um
we've had at least three people I believe apply we've also got the lady who applied for the planning commission that we said could go on to the board of adjustments so she thinks that she's going on to the board of adjustments so what I kind of need guidance on is
because we do really have the two vacancies but we were going to she was going to fill one and so we were advertising really for just that one vacancy but if you I don't know if you want us to put her in the packet as well so that you're voting on the two now but
she already thinks she's going on does that make sense i think we kind of lined her up so just bring for the one vacancy just bring everybody who's applied like the three or if there's another one four bring them all in the packet to you um to to make a decision on the ones after
it closes okay thank you speaking that's a good that kind of brings a thought for me is I think in the future if there's more than one applicant we should just go ahead and put it on the regular agenda rather than the consent agenda and then
I talked to a few uh other cities the way how how they handle that and I kind of like how they do it so basically what they do is they'll have like they have like a basically have a ballot where each commissioner will write down the person that they want they'll hand it to the city manager and then the city
manager will read the vote that way it won't be anonymous we'll say who voted for who but that way you don't get like that pressure of like um well well this person already has three votes so might as well just vote them in you know it just it kind of is more of like an election rather than like an official
like an commission vote i just like that technique that's how Panama City does yeah it's like reality TV right right good either way voted off the um anything else for discussion of course we're going to continue to discuss this
on Tuesday um in regards to the uh the policy um any other items for discussion i need to bring back um remember I asked y'all to kind of canvas the citizens to find out if they're interested in
alcohol for private rental on city property the citizens I talked to said no well the citizens I talked to said no but they're old i mean that's who I generally hang around so
I'm curious about the younger generation the younger generation is in favor of it but um the but I don't want to just come up here and say go gung-ho on it if you know the large majority says no I want
what the large majority wants so um but yeah I will say uh candidly the the younger generation is for it but I realize that also there is a large um senior community here in Linhaven as well so I don't want to infringe uh on
what they want either i just want what everybody wants and so if we can get a good consensus I think um you know I think everyone's concern is that you're going to have like what the concerts in the park or whatever and then someone just gets
hammered and and they just fall over and pass out or something and that's obviously not what we want but I think with the it's been a while since I looked at it but I remember there was all these different caveats that you had to do this this this and this and my biggest thing that I brought up was I
don't have a problem with it as long as we're protecting the city u legally the liability of the city private event the city would require in insurance in instated in yeah it would definitely have to be a big deal yeah it would have to be very very
looking at drram shop insurance well basically what I'm asking is do we proceed and put this on the agenda for discussion sure if that's what you want to do i want it to be consensus as to what we
put on the agenda got it um anybody have a I don't I don't mind it being put on the agenda to discuss so we get more public input yeah that's a fair point so that's let's let's do it to appeal to the public not that we're going to make
a decision is that hey we're bringing this as a point of awareness and we want to hear from you so we can get more feedback from our citizens and can we make sure that um we label a private event it's not city sponsored events
make that very very clear the city would require that they be additionally insured because the city doesn't want to insure it right I'm sure it should not and and you got to look into the uh the feasibility for for for that and
You got to set up guidelines yes sir the odds of someone being able to do it is probably slim anyways but Mhm um yeah so I got uh Oh is it Sorry is that enough on that or I I just wanted it to
be agreeable by everyone ifies discuss do it and business entities that already have that kind of insurance can name someone also insured because they could already have it built into their insurance to take it to take
it to different places but it's definitely only for anything yep right yeah we I like what the city manager said be very crystal clear that it's not the Sith putting it on for example if you rented the garden
club for a wedding you could serve champagne right right something like that yeah it's not to have like house um Yeah checkers or anything like that right um one thing that I was thinking about is just so happens the way that
the uh election is lining up is on the same night as a commission meeting so you could potentially have uh results of the election coming in while we're having the meeting that could be a bit distracting whether that's you know we have one seat that has an incumbent one
seat that that doesn't um and I believe Panama City has already decided to either change their their time or to cancel it so it might be something that we want to consider doing kind of want to hit it way before the election so we can we don't have to make a decision today or anything but just to put it on
our minds no that's a good point i think we can decide at first meeting in April what we do okay um so we can all mull around think about it and I can follow up with city manager see what the calendar looks like if we want to move it to a different date um and really just really depends on what would
actually be on that agenda if we were to cancel it for example if someone has a development order coming up we don't want to cancel it from that perspective but if it's a light agenda then you know if it's just primarily discussion then we could probably cancel it at that
point so um so let's look at maybe we first of Yes and the city had kind of looked at that already and um absolutely had thought about I mean to to stay out of the way of the election um we were
going to recommend to you guys and you just got ahead of me that Monday Monday instead of Tuesday yes sir okay but that's that's up to you i just have one quick thing [Music] um first Friday for Bay County Chamber
of Commerce for April and they asked all the candidates if they wanted to come out and speak and then um it's during the same time as our preconvention meeting so they always talk um yeah so I was wondering if you guys had a problem if we started like an hour later i mean
we could just depending on the agenda not meet that day and for those of us that are available just go to first Friday okay because I have thought about every invitation we get the first Friday we we do have our pre-commission meeting we're not able to to attend it um unless it's on like one of those odd Fridays
where you know like a fifth week or something like that so um we could just not have that pre-commission meeting that day and then for those that able to attend first Friday just be you know be there and uh if you can't attend that's okay too so that's my recommendation um
I have a question and the election is on April 24th 22nd you won't vote on the wrong day don't confuse me early voting is only a week not two weeks that's true early voting is only a week before not two
weeks found that out so my term ends on the 22nd or does it not end the If it goes in the runoff you'll be here till May yeah if there's if someone gets 50 plus one then that'll be your last
meeting yes yeah so your term doesn't So if someone wins out right on the 22nd Yeah you'll still be commissioner until the next commission meeting right yes which is in May which is in May first week in May you'll still be commissioner first week in May um even if someone wins outright you'll still be first
commission you'll be commissioned to the first week in May and then you'll we'll call the meeting to order you'll still be on the the panel call me into order and then once they do the swearing in then y'all will change seats at that point awesome well everybody have a
great weekend thank you i think it's so yellow