[Music] All right, since we got about uh about 45 seconds, I'll go ahead and we'll go ahead and get this uh the introduction part of it started. Thank you uh everyone for coming out this evening. Um
I asked Dr. Young uh a couple weeks ago if he can gather his team, I appreciate that. Gather his team to talk about the sports culture uh as far as it pertains to sponsorships.
Uh about a year ago, Mr. Paddock and I I was at the open house of Pike and he informed me about the I guess the the program was in its beginning stages. Uh I think that are we due for another open house at the high school coming around
this time. So about Okay. So about a year ago. So he had told me that you know I didn't ask him too many details about it back last year. Uh he said he's going to roll it out here in springtime or late summer. Uh so today we have
we're going to see what that that program is and we can get our questions in that we need to know and you know how can we make it better what we can do to assist it. So, at this time, I'll turn it over to Dr. Young. >> Thank you, Mr. President. I know everyone in here knows everyone, but I'll still introduce them. Um, so to
present tonight, we have Mr. David Paddock. Also, Mr. Mrs. Kendra Champion Mlin. They are our co-ads at Pike High School. Um, I believe most of you know also Mr. St. Jacob, director of wellness, but he also serves as a
district lison when it comes to athletics in Pike Township. And then also Mr. Wall-E, who didn't expect to be here. He had another event, but it let out enough time for him to join us as well. So, he'll he'll also contribute to the conversations as well. But for now,
I turn over to Mrs. Champion Maloon and Mr. David Hack. Thank you. again, uh, David Paddock for those who don't know. Um, I have been with the I've had the honor of of serving our community for 12 years now. I'm super
excited about all the things we've done to grow. Um, Dr. Young gave us a list of items outside of sponsorship um, that you had questions um, surrounding. And so it's our intent tonight to kind of share where we're at in the with those
items and in hopes to uh grow together and make sure we're all heading in the the uh same directions and and providing the best possible experience for our student athletes. I know a lot of people always ask what do athletic directors do. So we're going to talk a little bit about that tonight. Um so again, thank
you for having us and and we're looking forward to sharing a little bit of of what we do and answer your questions. >> All right. As Dr. Young said Kendra champion macaloon. Been in the district for a long time. Just saw the newborn baby of a girl I taught years ago. So feeling a little bit old, but still
excited to be here and share with you all of the awesome things that we get to do. Um starting off just we thought we would include our mission statement here. Um just because this is really the basis for all that we do and we do do a lot.
um providing students the opportunity for mental, physical, and emotional growth. And what people ask us often what we do and my response almost 100% of the time is our goal is to create great experiences for students. Um those students who have chosen to become
athletes. So grow mentally, physically, and emotionally through a well-developed athletic program. Um, and then we're going to talk, we'll talk a little bit this evening about our articulation, which is our relationship and what we do with our three middle schools, the high
schools, and even all of our elementary schools. So, as we talk this evening, um, we're going to talk about several things to try to get all of your questions answered, but this is where kind of our our mission lies. And I do think everybody has Dr. Young may be passing out um, copies of this, so you
have a little bit closer version. So again, this is an overview of everything we will be going over tonight. I think we're going to go ahead and start off with sponsorship. So if you have any questions along the way, uh the sponsorship piece has been I think three
years in the making conversations. Um we we started with the um our uh our uh >> strategic plan. Started with our strategic plan. I think that might have been about four years ago. And it's it's evolved quite a bit like anything else that we've done. You kind of plant a
seed and you and you water it and see how it grows. And I think we're in a spot now where we're really about to take off. I know um President Anderson talked about uh I think it was yeah last year open house. Um we were finishing up the proposal to present just for um some
feedback from the district. uh last last uh January we officially rolled it out to our coaches so to speak to kind of get their buy in. Um and there's two two phases to the to the uh sponsorship program. Um executive summary once when we sat
down um there was lots of talk, right? We've got coaches that have friends in this industry, this industry, parents, teachers all over the place. It was very important to us in the district not to loiter all of our areas with just signs anywhere we could find.
There were some other things that we also talked about which was um forging sustainable community partnerships. We've heard of stories of athletic directors, coaches, staff members talking to one dealership, offering them
a package for x amount of dollars, going to another dealership, and offering the same package for a different amount of dollars. It was almost like a what can I get and where can I get it? Um, experience taught us listening to other schools that might sever some relationships in the district. So we
wanted to make sure that we put something together that we thought was sustainable and helped us build great relationships with the people and industries in our in our community. Mr. P question here before you get too far away from it. So the the roll out with
the coaches do and you talk can you speak a little bit more to what was that like? Was it like a think tank or was like meetings or how'd you get the coaches buy in on this? So the the first go round uh it I want to say it was late February. We sent an email out, right?
We didn't know what to expect. We sent an email out to the coaches and 120 people show up in a room. We weren't sure what to expect. So we sent it out to our coaches to gain buy in and how um to share with them how this benefits them and we we include the middle schools. So this is this is a a K
through 12 really a middle school through 12 experience that we're trying to create. Um, we asked them, the coaches, to show up to the meeting. I I want to say it was pretty well attended. Probably 80% of them showed up. Um, some of them working coaching throughout that time. And it
was just to kind of share the same thing we're sharing with you guys today, gaining their feedback, what they um, what we don't want is we don't want our coaches to feel like they have to go and I I guess secure the actual funds themselves. Some people are really good
at it, some are not. But we didn't want to put the pressure on them. What we wanted them to do is just to be a part of it and introduce us to the right people, right? How how far can our hands reach? And they can reach a lot farther through all of our coaches, assistant coaches, head coaches. So the original uh meeting included the head coaches
just to kind of start from that. >> Great. Um the o the overall goal right is to to raise money so that we can provide an experience for students and there there's that money can go towards all kinds of things um provide premier uh
resources opportunities and experiences to nurture the athletic and personal growth of our student athletes. Right? Everybody wants a fieldhouse. Everybody wants team gear. There's there's all kinds of things when it comes to athletics. And so that's that's something we balance quite a bit. So
we're we're looking for some capacity in how we do that. Um the annual fundraising, we'll get into that a little bit later. There's been there was a lot of talk about that when we sat down in our our committee. How much can we raise? Oh, 200,000 20,000 50. What I think what we the
consensus we came to is we don't know what we can do. We've heard of we've heard of districts solidifying deals with uh dealerships year one, you know, $50,000 to start. So there there's a lot of different opportunities and we didn't want to limit ourselves and we also didn't want to put ourselves in a
position to where we felt we weren't we weren't achieving anything. The goal every year as we walked out was how do we beat what we did last year? Uh the mission statement of of what we did as far as what we put together, the mission of the MSD Pike Township
Athletics Community Sponsorship Program is to equip our student athletes with premier resources and opportunities, nurturing both their athletic prowess and personal growth. Um to the left, this is a slick that we put together, a marketing piece for the coaches and really anybody else. We're going to show
you where you can find it on our website. So again, the goal long term is anybody can advocate for Pike Township. >> One more question, Mr. Pock. Um, so you said the goal is to beat what we did last year, correct? >> Okay. >> Is there a measurement on what we did
last year? Zero. >> Okay. All right. >> Zero meaning no funding raised. >> So I think what you were talking about, Mr. Paddock, was once we do the campaign, >> once we do the campaign. >> So the camp there hasn't been a campaign yet. >> It's been a soft roll out,
>> right? So, so after we have a campaign, then we have a baseline of okay, here's what we did our first campaign and then from there, you know, let's see if we can do better the next year. Like we couldn't say for this first first campaign, let's get 10 million or let's get we didn't know what that amount would look like.
>> Okay. >> Because we haven't had the first we haven't had the campaign. >> Okay. That makes you have a year to plan a campaign that you haven't had yet. >> You said a year to plan the campaign that we Yeah. So yeah, these discussions have been going on a lot.
>> Yeah. For for quite some time. Yeah. >> Yeah. We made the initial proposal at the I want to say it was at the end of last >> end of the year. So sometime in December. I can't remember the date. Um and then from there the conversation was we need to
we need to make our coaches aware because we need >> 12 years being here in 12 years. This is your first campaign. This >> correct? This is the first time. So this was >> 12 years. This is your first campaign. Yes. >> So, to find this, if if you're out and about with um your friends, family,
talking to coaches, if anyone's curious on what it is we're looking to accomplish, we've got the slick that's out in front of you. If you go to our website, pikehsathletics.com, Kendra will show you. You can drop down to other info and then down to sponsorships, partner
with Pike. And that's the information. We want to make it that easy for anybody just to initiate a conversation. What we know is we've got coaches and family members that come to us all the time just asking how can we partner with Pike Township. >> This is already live. >> Yes. Yes. This has been alive for some
time now. >> Question. So um has coach uh Teague imple um give too much much input on sponsorship? Reason why I asked the question is
because I remember when he and Dr. Young and myself sat in Dr. Young's office when we were interviewing him and he stated that he had uh Adonis for one his name came up right off the bat and said
and and then I think someone from the Boston Celtics now I'm not I forgot who that was but anyway he said these are uh NBA players that were right off the bat ready to make sponsorships for Pipe. You you recall that Dr. Mhm. >> So, I'm just wondering how much input
has he had in this? >> We we pitched this out to the coaches in January, February, so February, and that was in the middle of the season. >> Um, I don't even recall if he was at the meeting. >> Okay. So, that might be a circle back too on something such as this to see if
we could get the NBA sponsorship. >> Absolutely. >> 100%. >> Oh, yeah. And to be clear, I I my understanding of the vision was we wanted to plant all the information into our coaches so they >> Well, he is the coach. That's why I said that. >> Yeah. And the idea long-term again,
sorry, in the beginning was that they could start having those conversations now so that when the campaign kicks off, we're ready to go. The idea is, and you'll see, right, if we campaign from February till May or June, we've got one month, July, to get ready for the season
of of the fall. And the goal is that when we partner with a dealership, we partner with them for the year. Um, we do have the opportunity to pick up people along the way throughout the year. But the idea of the campaign and the kickoff is that game one in fall, we
are partnering with all of our our partners uh for the entire school year and then we'll do it again the following spring, a new campaign for the following school year. We'll accept money along the way and we'll have those conversations. But the idea is the concentrated effort, right? If if we we
just ask a couple people, throw out some information, maybe that information gets around. But if we got everybody going at it at the same time, it creates a little more buzz. And that's that's >> How many partners do you have right now? >> You've been there 12 years. You don't have a partner now.
>> So this strategic plan was just approved last last uh fall. >> You've been there 12 years. This is your first strategic plan and you have no resources from partnership now. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> One question. When did this roll out? I
said uh Nicole asked if this was live. When did this go live on the website? >> Um I believe the summer or >> this past December? >> No, I'm sorry. The summer. I'm I'm trying to remember if it was late
spring, early summer. Yeah. 25. >> Okay. >> Question. My question. So, you said you don't believe that uh you're not sure if uh Coach T was even at the roll out. Have you circled back to him to ask him
about his potential sponsorships? Have you addressed him? >> We shared this at the coaches inservice this uh past July. So, the other piece of it is we will be sharing this with all of our parents, students, and coaches at the preseason meeting.
That's not what I asked you, Mr. Paddock. I asked you, have you we have we have a former NBA >> and and and and forgive me if I sound a little agitated about this, but we have a former NBA basketball player on the as as a coach
that stated that he would um he was ready to bring on former exNBA or some in the NBA now. is still NBA uh to sponsor uh the basketball program. So I'm asking you not was he at the meeting but have
you reached out to him and if not do you have a problem with it or reach out to him either or that's all I'm saying. >> Understood. Understood. Um I >> I mean that makes sense everybody. Am I making sense? >> Yeah. And I think, you know, to your question, you have not gone to probably
him or any coaches specifically and asked, but I think to your point, Dr. We was in that meeting, too. I think we have an advantage because a lot of of high school teams don't have a an an XNBA really allar. Um, so, uh, would
that be a special conversation? >> I think it would. >> I think so. Yeah. >> And I wasn't aware that you guys had talked about that. No. >> So, yeah. >> Um, I apologize. Yeah, sir. Is there any other questions specific to that? >> I said that you weren't aware. So you
didn't know about the >> No, this conversation was was was actually he hadn't yet? >> No, it was just the three of us. So no one no one knew about what Dr. Webster is sharing now. Yeah. >> So I guess it was hard. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't know about.
>> Yeah. [Music] >> Again, back to the U strategic plan and how it was rolled out and the things that I think there was 15 to 20 of us in there. Uh we just talked about how to create a sponsorship program that was sustainable. Um in the past, we have
accepted some sponsorships here and there um donations, things of that nature, but this is the first time we will make it a concentrated effort. Again, this outlines some of the things we talked about in the different areas and ideas we have that we want to share with
with the uh partners. We talked about just different things. Um we we used the idea of of special events. The Tostitos Pike invite, right? There's a lot of different dealerships and and uh places that would like to I think I think Mr. Jacob and I talked about it yesterday. What they want to do is they want to
know how their name's going to be used. So we tried to figure out every way we could walk into there be armed with all the the appropriate material and and share with them how we can partner. Quick question uh Mr. Product. So uh with the the goals and objectives, do
we have like an idea of a of a number of amount of of money that we're trying to obtain to help supplement you know the support for the teams as we go along with this uh program. So, do you have like an idea? >> We do not have an idea. The the
conversation in our meetings were what could we do if if we were to walk into Champion Chrysler and they offer us 50,000 right there, right? That would that would give us a a parameter that we could start with. Um, I think a dealership is going to offer something a little bit different than maybe a mom
and pop heating and air conditioning business. Um, we also have uh levels for grandma and grandpa if they want to, you know, sponsor just $250. We give them shout outs, tickets, um, passes to the games, things of that nature. Again, we want to make this a collaborative effort, not just I mean, we all want to
hit the home run. Um, which is the goal and that's that's part of the reason this was put in place because if we don't have anything that's sustainable and documented every year could be something different. This will allow us to maintain that same structure and goal. >> Do we have a an idea about a roundabout
number like fall sports? We all our fall sports, wrestling, football, volleyball, stuff like that. how much money that typically they would need combined through a year is it I mean 60,000 50,000 somewhere in there do we have an
idea I know it's not complete science but just the ballpark >> the economics as far as so the programs themselves they don't provide so the programs themselves they will provide we provide uniforms balls anything they need to compete that that's the athletic
department so the money that's being raised here would be for the athletic department and and in supporting our coaches and athletes >> and and so like the uniforms wouldn't be purchased every year, >> correct? They're on a rotation, >> right? So So am I right? So you're kind of trying to quantify what it costs to
run those programs. >> Yes. So yeah, for the fall >> in a sense. So what I'm saying like okay, the football team, we know that what the school the district is going to provide >> and then anything outside of that, you know, they may need some help with that school doesn't provide or we don't have
the money to provide. So that's where they get into like the the trash bag sales and the car washes and stuff like that. Yeah. The fundraisers. So do we have an idea of how much each sport like football? >> Yeah. How much they would need to raise every year? So if
>> if football needs, you know, 7,000 to help supplement and you know, basketball needs this amount, volleyball needs this, you know, do we have an idea of that combined how much that is? >> I think that might depend a little bit on the program itself. So, I coached cross country for many years. We did
some special stuff like we went on an overnight trip, we went to dinner, we raised additional funds for those types of things. >> Um, we do, I think, a pretty good job of keeping them covered like Mr. Paddock said so that they can play all the things they need to play. So, then outside of that might be, for example,
our soccer team is going on an overnight trip this weekend. So, they're going to raise they raise quite a bit more funds because they know they're going to use more. Some some of them have extravagant end of the year celebrations, so they might raise more money. I know when I was doing it, it was kind of a I wanted
to raise it and spend it all of it. So, whatever we did, if I I did an extra t-shirt or whatever. Um, so I think that is kind of program to program, we would really have to sit and go through what they've raised um to give you an assign a number to that. >> That's what I'm looking for. So when you
have the meetings with the coaches and they say you sit down with everyone and they say okay we're going to do we're going over here for this trip we're doing this this is about how much money you think we're going to need and then everyone gives you that sum of that amount and then you look at the program
there okay we're going to need I don't know five diamond levels uh some platinum levels to reach this amount to be that's what I'm looking for that's what I'm trying to see does that happen in in these meetings >> yes and so the caveat is right there's an athletic
department ECA fund and then each team has their own ECA, their own account, their own responsibilities. What she's speaking to feeding the children, do they do they do they have, you know, uh practice gear, things of that nature. That is the responsibility of the head
coach. That is that is in a different pot than this sponsorship money would go towards. >> And do do head coaches do they make that known like, "Hey, this is what's coming out of my pocket cuz they we give them uh stipens." Correct. like coach coaching like paid.
>> Yeah, we give them sip. So, so I'm assuming that this siphon that we give them to help supply, but but this program here will help them be able to get the above. >> Yeah. So, I I think and correct me if I'm wrong, in order to give what they
need to play, the district will provide. But if you want to do things overnight, those types of things, t-shirts, above and beyond those things, then that's where the fundraising comes in. Is that >> No. >> No. Okay. >> The the fundraising comes in. So, we pay
for officials. We pay for ticket takers. We there. So, the cost of running events is pretty exponential. I think we spent we calculated over 17,000 a year just on officials or no, sorry, not officials, on workers. It's probably more than that for officials. Right. And so our we do
not receive any direct funds from the district as an athletic department. All of our money is raised through soon to be sponsorships, but it's always spent through gates. >> Through what? >> The the ticket gates. So football gates, basketball gates, soccer gates. And if you've been to a lot of our different uh
events, right, football brings a different amount of people compared to cross country where there's no revenue coming in. So we're supporting sports like cross country and golf and there's there's no revenue coming in to support them. That money is being used from gate money from other events.
>> So right now because of the the the trim down of the amount of students that that we allow at the football games. So you're saying now that's that's also a trim down on your fundraising. >> Yes. If we were to sell out we we
haven't sold out. Yes. If we had 3,000 people there at $10, that's way more than 3,000 or sorry, 2,000 at $10. >> We're averaging now about how many? >> Uh, depending on who we play, between a,000 and 12,500. >> And so we normally max out at how many? >> Uh, we we have it set at 2,000 right
now. >> That's what I mean by by district. We're not asking for folks to come out and sell or the kids to sell something. It's the gate, people coming, you know, all of those things that we monies that we generate to cover the cost of playing.
>> Our kids don't pay to play. >> All schools do. >> We We've got districts that pay. It's $150 per student to play a sport, >> right? That's how they're offsetting plus they got sponsorships and things of that nature. I I'm pretty proud about I know Kendra is too, what we've been able
to do with just ticket money. Um the we it is our goal and we tell this to our coaches. You'll see this a little bit later when we we have our preseason meetings with him what we go through, but it's our goal. Our coaches don't have to worry about anything but coaching. We've got coaches like our girls basketball coach who we love the
things he does. He wants everyone to look the same, same shoes, three different practice shirts, all those things. Those are the things that would fall on the coach. Not every coach feels like that is important to their culture and their program. So that that that money would then be raised by his
program. So right there's there's the athletic department and then we're now up to 25 sports with 25 sport under us and anything they want to do above and beyond. And we've uniforms, balls, uh officials, uh I mean facilities, all those things.
I mean top of the notch or you know top-notch with with what we have to provide for them. Do they still are are they the team still able to work concession stand and get um funds from that? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Because I know a lot of them do. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. We're using
>> they get a percentage of >> it's a fundraiser. Yeah. >> That's considered a fundraiser. >> Are we at the high school level or are you talking about districtwide? >> Um so we middle school and high school. >> Okay. In the youth programs they pay >> for some. And the youth programs parents
pay. >> I was gonna say I just want to make sure everybody in the room we say we don't pay to play at the middle school level we pay to play. They they have to buy their their uniforms. They they do have to. >> You said everybody pays $125. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Oh I'm I see I know of schools that
charge students $150. >> We don't do that here. >> No. >> Okay. I thought that's okay. when I coached I think for the girls it was usually about 70 80 bucks or something like that for to pay for their uniform and stuff but that that is an expense of the students >> I guess I'm still kind of curious about
the question Mr. Anderson was trying to get at because even though each sport does its own thing at some point we should know we can anticipate that this has been our pattern of spending for this in the past collectively what might
our pattern be so that when we if we are talking to somebody and we want to say anything what is the target we're shooting for that we want to to say we need like you said, this many to do this, this many to do that, so that we
can kind of present it to folks in a way that this is, oh, we're not just kind of out here looking for whatever. We have a certain number we're trying to hit. Anytime you go into a a a capital campaign or some kind of campaign, you need to know your target. What's your
goal? That's to me what the goal we need to know what we're trying to hit. >> Yeah, that's >> Let me add to that, too. My thought I I think most athletic departments in my thinking should be compartmentalized because you have some some some some
athletics that are going to be a wash. Cross country is a wash. What else is a wash? >> Uh so there's there's wash and there's deficits. >> There's loss. >> There's probably more deficits. Yes. In most in most schools, colleges, the football programs carry all.
>> So what I'm saying scenario is for instance, you what? >> 30 helmets short this year. >> You were 30 helmets short this year. >> We were short 30 helmets. >> That's what I got. That's what I heard. >> Not at the high school >> in the high school with Washington. >> That would be the first be the first I heard.
>> I heard that. That's those are coaches talk. So, but anyway it goes um what I'm saying in that scenario is when you compartmentalize in my thinking soccer compartmentalizers. So if cross countries of Washington connected with
possibly with with soccer and you have those entities that help one another to sustain what those particular u u disciplines of sport needs. Um
uh for instance, you ought to know going into basketball that coach ought to have a list of what he has to go into basketball 6 months before he goes into basketball before even they get on the floor or go
into weight training what he needs to carry him through that season. That ought to be done through compartmentalization with every sport that we have. So, for instance, if you got volleyball going on, well, you're going to need $10,000
for uniforms. You're going to need so much for equipment. So, you know, every year through compartmentalization, what a budget is for each >> sport. And then those who can be
consumed by by by by by the wash effect can be connected. For instance, basketball might be your strongest one or football might be your strongest one. You might be able to put um cross country. Connect those two together and
whatever comes in from cross country automatically goes into the pot that particular pot and they can make sure that they have uniforms and things of that nature. Uh, you can't depend on gates now because
you could have a good gate with Ben Davis and Pike and you get a fight at the Ben Davis Pike game, then you got to do some discipline or not discipline, but you got to do some things that would detour the crowd the
next time. So that's why sponsorship is so important. Sponsorship is so important to maintain an athletic program in case the gate and the behavior of students
and activities don't work out the way they work out. That's why you have to have the compartmentalization ideology. Football needs 20 grand before the season starts. Uh volleyball needs 15 grand before the season starts. uh tennis needs 30 uh hypothetically 30
grand for the season starts. Um women's girls volleyball and now flag football needs $7,500 before the season starts. And so it's really basically saying what are you doing in conversation with your
coaches to find out how they're budgeting these teams so you can then begin to find out the places that you can find the sponsorships that can connect all of these dots for us together. I remember when I don't know if Dr. Young remembers it before he
became as great as he is in fights uh the uh uh the how St. Vincent was so active. Coca-Cola was so active. I remember you could not come to a football game
without a banner somewhere in here. And those monies were keeping those kids in good cleats, good uniforms. >> At one time, Pipe was the best dress.
Best dress. If they weren't one, they were two. best dressed athletic program in township and districts. And so if you don't, this is, you know, and and I'm done after this. If you don't have
the conversation with your coach coaches about the budgets they need uh through compartmentalization uh and and and and and talk about uh uh
sponsorship I I I've been sitting here waiting for a a a lunchon an executive sponsorship lunchon or dinner. I've been sitting here waiting for that for years to where you
bring the people. Uh I mean, we we we have a lot of things going on around here, but we haven't had a sponsorship lunchon or dinner for the businesses that are in Pike. Do you know how many
business dial is in Pike? Um um my god, so many people are here in Pike. Uh the coach the coach shouldn't have to go nowhere else but right here on 71st Street to dump money on these athletic
students right here. We get sporadic gifts from the coaches. And so we have a lot of major multibillion million dollar companies in Pike, especially in the 86th Street
area. all those there needs to be a corporate lunchon to bring all these people together and talk about your plan uh that you've been working on for a year so that they can see well I can buy
into this or I can buy into that or let's talk about what I can buy into this is what we're going to do for the community. Matter of fact, uh [Music] D owe us some money anyway. As far as
I'm concerned with that decision that took place some time ago when we had to pay for that $30 million, that lie that was told, they gave us some uh garden boxes here in Pip. Y'all remember that? Hello, somebody. Nobody wants to
remember that. Took totally advantage of us. we should have got thousands and thousands of dollars from that multi-million dollar company. So that conversation was not marketed right and um our children should not have to
struggle in the athletic arena when the athletic arena here is so rich and has been for so many years. And so um I'm waiting to see how this works out. Uh,
but I am not pleased. I'll say that with uh you being here 12 years and this is your first year doing something like this. If that was somebody else probably in Pike Township, that would be probably unacceptable. And uh that is to me unacceptable. 12
years, this is your first time doing something like this when you know that sponsorship drives athletics. I I mean I I love where your mind's at and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't want to get into the minutiae of all the things that's gone down in the 12 years. Um I can tell you there was
conversations that were had about field houses and I was told to step in my lane and we did. Um there's not a decision that I've made without the guidance of my principal or those above me. Um and and we've all sat down and said, "Hey, this is where we got to go." And I agree
with you. Um there's a lot more we can do and and that's why we're here. So I I do appreciate it and I I I'm I'm real quick. I think D we may be connecting with with is now Corteva. >> Yeah. >> Yes. And Corteva does sponsor quite a
bit. Maybe not with athletics but they do do a lot with science uh STEM robotics. So 3D if our uh >> that's recently though isn't it? >> Yes. So if our contact people are listening we we appreciate you >> and we thank you for all that you do.
And I think Dr. more, you know, um I'm excited uh of of what the future holds and I'm glad we're we we've got this thing I think coordinated now that we can kick it off. Uh Pike Town Council's a gym, I think, you know, have we for years and and you know, been being here
forever, um I think tapped into all the possibilities. No, but I I I believe with the things that we've got in place now, uh we can we can begin. >> Dr. Young, you have nothing in place, sir. What you have here is a proposal to
put in place. You've had a meeting to get input to put this in place. February is just a few months away. You have nothing from sponsorship. We're in the height of a athletic season. and and and all I'm basically saying is I understand
what you're saying, but at this particular junction uh when we see all these other schools and because I know it's a gym. I've been here 30 years in this time, >> I know it's a gym. I know what it was. I know what the sponsorship used to be.
And I'm not here trying to beat anybody up. I'm here because I'm concerned because I know athletes ath athletes that have left our system and went to other schools. I don't want that to continue. >> No, we don't. We don't. >> Yeah. And I think Mr. Paddock knows I'm
right about that. >> 100%. >> Yeah. And so I don't want that to continue. I want us to have an athletic program that's going to produce an a student athlete to go to the next level of higher education. >> Yeah. >> And and and I that's what I'm concerned about our children. And and and just to
clarify when I say we got things, this is a plan. It hasn't been rolled out yet, but when I say things I things in place, we have >> great coaches. We have the number one ranked boys and girls basketball team, right? So, uh success in many different sports. So, when I say things in place,
we have themes that I believe when we reach out to organizations and and and companies that they will say, "Yeah, I I want a part of that." We do have students that are graduating from high school at a very high rate. Years ago, we had children that were qualifying for
division one schools and they weren't uh eligible. So that's we put in place the 3.0. So there's a lot of things I think that are in place now that when we roll out our plan would entice people to want support
athletic role. That's that's what I was what I was saying. >> This is one thing I I'm going to give you an expectation. I that I want to see come out of this play. Just as same as you talk to the coaches, you know, when I hear and see of a plan like this, I think about the single the single parent
that may have two or three athletes and they have to two or three times pay >> Yeah. >> uh a sports fee, you know, will this plan supplement, you know, to help that parent, you know, because nobody nobody
wants to be embarrassed. I can't play because, you know, I got to pay $300 to to play volleyball, but my other child has to have business, but I can't afford that. You know, that's I think those are real those are smart goals and real measurements and that is something that I expect to see as we you know, we'll
set markers during the year. How how much did we how much did we generate and who did it, >> you know? So, that's the kind for me that's what I that's what I expect to see here. And then, you know, maybe after the fall season, what did we do? >> Yeah. No, I appreciate that. And to your point, Dr. Moore, you'll see a little
bit later, we do have those conversations with our coaches. I'm actually very proud of what we do and how we do it. At the end of each review, we ask our coaches, "What do you need? What do you want? And what is your wish list?" We know that a year in advance. I'm sorry that you heard that there was
30 helmets missing. I heard from my head coach. We were We were short three extra large. That >> I heard about that one, too. >> So, I ordered three extra large helmets. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Um, so there is not a student athlete that did not have what they need to participate here in my my
12 years. Would I like it to be in the scenario of three different color helmets and all those things? Yes, sir. >> No, we're not talking about >> but but our kids want it. Our kids want it and that'll keep them here, right? >> Yeah. Well, yeah. I think athletics are I mean I I I don't mind talking about I graduated because of athletics. I mean
it kept me in school. we kept be and and and some of these children need athletics whether we realize it or not to help them get through school because school pride and athletics means something to them and and all I'm basically saying is um um you know
sometimes it's just hard to just talk about truth. We're just not there now because I' I've been in pipe when it was at its height at its height. Now I'm not saying that we go back to that. I'm just basically saying how do we continue to build on
that? And you know when I see mid January, March, uh June, July, and I know you're going to explain that sponsorship. We're still not getting there. >> Correct. >> And that bothers you. It just it just bothers me. And maybe I maybe shouldn't
be in this meeting now, but it just bothers me uh to to to hear and you don't always believe what you hear. But something's going on when you hear what you hear. Does that make sense? >> Yeah. Something's going on when you hear what you hear. It don't necessarily have
to be true, but um it just I'm just heard about our children and and and our children and all of our kids in athletics and pike right now. We got some great great we have a great girls basketball team uh who's doing doing well, who probably
will go as far as they did last year. and uh you know we were able to help them do some things during the course of the year. I know some people uh who donated money in other places and money was moved around because it wasn't there. You know, you know what I'm
talking about. >> I think the number one need for all of our coaches and you've probably heard in education regardless if it's athletics or not, but we got to feed them. How are we going to feed them? I think that's the biggest piece talking about what could this money go towards feeding our feeding our athletes, having them properly nutrition before and after
games. Um, and you'll see you'll see some of that here, but that's part of what we have the money allocated towards as well as one of the things we talked about was having an endofear K through 12 SP award kind of celebration where we bring the whole community together and show them this is what a Pike athlete
looks like. >> Can you give the website one more time? >> Uh, Pike [Music] HS athletics. I think you can get to it from the the main the main website. It's it's difficult
>> right now and I've went to athletics and I can't get >> Okay. And we can we can follow up with with it to make sure that that's still we'll check for sure. >> Um and to everyone's point our idea asking
coaches giving them information right who's going to go out and do it? Who's going to go out and have those conversations? The idea is that from mid January, you know, early February to March, May, we just have a concerted effort with anybody and everybody, if that includes you guys here, coach,
Teague, everybody. The idea of that meeting in February is to get to June and have, dare I say, $50,000, $100,000. Now, we've got a whole month to prepare for the next school year and how we're going to partner with them and let
everyone's name be seen, be heard. Okay? with that this is this is the financial plan that we we had pitched and we had talked about as the um the uh our committee again 15 to 20 people 50% of it would go to the high school programs right is that and then from there that's how we allocate where where the money
goes whether it's food coaches gear um you know making sure students are well equipped um uniforms I could tell you we spend over 25,000 this year on new football uniforms we do that every three years helmets every year just to reconditioner about 15 grand. I spent 10
to 12 grand. You could pull it up every year on brand new helmets. We ride our coaches on keeping track of them. We know how hard that is. Some helmets don't make it through those years. So, we got to replace more this year or that year. And and and I promise you, we do that. And I' I've never had Coach B came
to me and said, "Hey, we're short XL." I said, "I'll have them here in a week." We had them there in a week. >> Mr. product. Can you uh about the uh can you give me a success story about anyone from uh Pike that's spoken to a dealership and what was that like and
success stories? >> Well, yeah. Go ahead. >> When it comes to athletics, you can talk about what you I mean I don't know that necessarily be a success story about dealerships and athletics, but you can talk about what what you've done. >> Mr. president. I've gone out to
Dodgetown Road and all the dealerships here. I met with them oneonone. One of the things about doing that. It was we had a letter that was helped drafted by Dr. Young was to establish a relationship to tell our stories and I've gone to do that and this is an area
that I have experience in. I coach at Penn State and I did that and I was a head coach at UPY. So, Dr. Young helped guide us through that. We've made I've made all those visits to them and I've followed them actually this week to say hey when can we meet you will bring you
in to have a conversation with our superintendent. You know what I've understood and done this I was athletic director at another school district was once you have that um relationship we can talk they can share with us what they able to do. The athletic department
gave me hats, um, visors, t-shirts that we were able to share with them. So, we're just waiting for those to maturize. I just met with Andy Moore. I didn't know Andy Moore was moving >> yes to um, Whitetown. The general manager said to me yesterday, I'll get
back to you this week or next week because we can still support Pike. and I'm waiting to hear back from him and then I'll share that with the superintendent to be able to have a conversation or bring them in and see what they're able to support us with. >> And Christ of Champion used to be um
owned by >> Thank you. the Falcon. >> So when they left, you know, there was sort of that that missing connection. I was able to connect with um a well the the general manager and then another
manager who actually was um the played on the football team when we actually went to state against Carmel. Right. So I believe that the the opportunities are there. I think now we have to execute the plans the seeds have been planted um
in order to you know to to bring those funds that that we want. And a lot of the partnerships we've had like I just we just connected but they're just not those funds don't necessarily come to the athletic department but as a district like we just partnered with Malice right down street automobiles right they're giving us 10% discount all
Pike employees if you didn't know. So a lot of partnerships you know we have now that sponsor our um celebrations event. So we have a lot of sponsors but we haven't necessarily gone through and connected with with the athletics piece. I think this
will help us kind of bridge that gap. >> Go ahead. >> As part of the strategy, do you guys plan to train the uh coaches >> on how >> on how to go out? I mean, >> that's a big step for a coach to go into
a place and try to get their business if they have the relationship. And sometimes they're scared or hesitant. So if you at least give them the tools that they need, even if it's a script, you know, to go out and talk to those people, >> 100%. >> So are you doing I do you have something in place for that or no?
>> So that's our biggest fear, right, is is asking our coaches to do one more thing. They work 365 days a year, >> you know, working with our student athletes. I mean, it's it's and and so part of it was us creating again the dialogue in that meeting, right? Just having just to start off
just regular conversations. I've had so many coaches come to me. I've got a parent on my team. I've got a friend. I've got someone else. And we we're going to hand we're going to hand them that that slick that you got there. And we're going to give them a two sentence. Hey, looking for if you're looking for an opportunity, you know, here here's
what we can do for you. There's the different levels. Would you be open to speaking with Mr. Jacob, with Mr. Paddock, with with Dr. Young? >> Not been that has not been the expectation in the past, right? >> There has never been no that has not been an expectation. we're gonna and that's part of what we what we talked about last February is here's what we
need from you >> and again some of our coaches gave us the deer in the headlight like wow I'm not going to go ask anybody for $50,000 >> right >> and then one piece one piece we talked about too I really believe that we have some coaches that I think could absolutely
>> turn us on to some to some some major funds and dollars. I think it's going to be our parents and our community people. So we have parents that work at very large companies, organizations, and so one of the things that that that would be part of the plan is to actually
roll this out to our parents. So we talked about what parent meetings. >> So we started that this this fall. Yeah, we have a mandatory parent meeting with our parents. We sit down and we go through our list of stuff and on there this is included. So as a parent, there's opportunities for your organization or your company. If you
guys or you as an individual want to be a sponsor, right? So let's say you're there, if you could just connect us with the person in your company, then we can take it from there, those organizations. But if you think about every team, you multiply that times 15, 20, 30 different
athletes. I think those parents and the people and grandparents are going to be the ones that are really going to connect with those large corporations to get some money. So, there's also a parent piece. Like you said, some of our coaches, they're just not going to be very effective at doing that.
>> I think some will be good. We our baseball coach, he talks to us and he's got a name for us or running or top one or something. I don't know. >> The reason why I asked that and I'm going to speak to Dr. Morris Point. So, and thank you for your your testimony, uh, Mr. Jacob, and what you said, Dr.
Young. So, um, in one day, uh, my daughter, uh, got $65,000 pledged from five different, uh, businesses here in, uh, in Pike in one day. Pledge, $65,000.
I didn't realize how rich, to your point, Dr. for Pike was and how enthused a lot of businesses are about helping the school district because the school district is the heart of the township. It's the heartbeat of the township and
so to this point having the lunchins uh doing stuff like that. Uh Planned Parenthood Tony Dunie came and spoke two weeks ago and they did all $100,000 and had a little auction. You know, I was in shock like wow how effective this is. So
if a teenage child can go out by herself in one day and got pledged and she had three or more on the on the line, $65,000 easily just like that. They were enthused. I was I mean
>> I I bet that as a district we could be even more efficient. >> Yeah. >> And that and uncovering those opportunities. Yeah. you know, not just hearing about it >> and talking about it, but people going out there for teenage child feeling. Does that make sense? >> 100%. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> And that's the plan. I think that's why
we are very excited about it. And I think to Mr. Wilson's point, this this will be a huge help because even I I I don't mind talking. I love to talk in public settings, but going and asking someone to donate money is more challenging. So, I think this and then
connections that >> I love it >> that our coaches already have. >> I love it. like they there's like he like Mr. product said when people come and say, "I've got this parent who wants to do this, this, so this is just going to be that extra piece that we need to kind of get across the finish line to
>> its connections." Yeah. >> I don't have to stumble over the words. I don't have to try to sell you on it. This is a listing of some of our opportunities. >> Um, and it it can help bridge the gap between those folks that are really really good >> and those folks that I can I I I have
connections. I just don't feel comfortable asking or articulating what the possibilities are. >> Right. I have a a a podcast and I've raised $250,000 in 3 years just talking at 8:00 to 9:00
>> and pushed it into organizations >> at a 8 to 9. And it is an art. It is an art. You got to know how to do it. And uh you got you got you got to if you don't love pike,
you can't sell pike. You got to love pike to sell it. And and uh that's the main objective is is to love pike and to sell it. And uh
to to to come to do what what I not talking about me. I'm just talking about the opportunity that I have to to push dollars to other other entities. It never comes to my hands. I just push it to those directions and they get it
done. And so all I'm saying in that scenario is that you got to be creative. And really, I don't think it's the coach's job to raise money. It's the coach's job to make sure them people are making that 3.0 know that you're talking about
>> and that they're staying in school, that they ain't in the crevices of these hallways >> doing something that's going to get them put out of school, that you got to put them in detention. That's not their job. Their job is to coach and maintain discipline, make sure their grades are
there. There ought to be somebody, I don't know if Brother Jacobs is doing that, that that there must be a concentration on that because you've got 11,000 students that is between 250 to $325,000
a year to have and to feed your sports programs. >> That's just me looking at it from my lens. And that's bare tactics. That's that's with one helmet, not three. And you know, so I'm just basically saying, I mean, we can talk about this
all day. Uh, and then after we get through talking about it and it don't work, then what you going to do? >> We're going to be on the podcast. >> We want to spot on the podcast. >> You do have one of these, right?
>> I think, you know, we the committee. All right. out of here. >> Again, collaboration and support. We don't have to continue can you continue going through this. One thing I did want to say is again, this is not just the high school. It includes the middle schools. You know, if we get to a point
where we're bringing in 100,000 a year and they're getting 10% per school, that's 10,000. That's more than they've ever you you could talk to the middle school ads right now. There won't be another student that has to pay for um obviously the signage and marketing, right? we start putting signs across the
district, things of that nature. Uh we're gonna have to pay for that out of our own as part of the partnership. And then this is this is one of the things um that we really want to make sure we start doing with this is the district sports banquet. We have like the top 30, all those things. We would like to do a K through 12 red carpet celebration at
the end of the year that starts recognizing our athletes at the youngest of ages. We want to build those relationships as soon as possible. Any other questions on the sponsorship, sir? >> Yeah, I'm going to put you on the lead right now.
>> The new bank at 38th. Is it Old >> Old? >> Old National >> 38th I >> uh you need to send somebody up to Old National. Uh because Old National has some very
very difficult issues. um and uh do a small presentation with the manager just to see how they will respond. Uh, I would take one item, whatever the item
is you want to to to address, whether it be series of what you got coming up, basketballs. You need 100 basketballs or you need 100 baseballs or whatever you need, just take a tell them that you know you're the athletic director or
whoever you send and tell them that we're happy to have you in our community. Uh I don't know if anybody's t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t tapped you into sponsorship, but uh Pike, which is a well diverse school, which Old National has a problem dealing
with diversity, and so um uh they would probably be uh uh willing to listen to you. Uh sponsorship starts off with equipment, [Music]
>> if you know what I mean. >> Yep. It doesn't start off saying we need $10,000. >> And if you go to if you go to Old National, ask for Raphael. >> There you go. Talk. >> Raphael is the president. >> And so and when you do that,
when you do that, you say, "Well, we need so many jerseys for the we need we need to find uniforms for our volleyball team." You go in there with a specific and and and and when you go in there with a specific, they can understand
that more. And the uniform might be $20,000, but when you say you want $20,000, that's a that's a that's a that's not fundraising. Fundraising for an athletic department is could you do this for
these children? And then as you develop that relationship, then you can say we need a scoreboard, we need uh we need this, we need that. Uh but you start off
pushing the children who wear the uniforms, who are exactly in those particular situations. You want to meet corporate entities love meeting the needs of children.
And so you push your children. You push your children. Uh when I mean children, what your cross country children or your tennis children, you might need this or you might need that for this particular sport. You push that. Like he said they
had to pay what $80 for uniforms. So if he would have known that he could have pushed that idea on a corporation, it probably would have been different. Do you think so, sir? >> Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, in most cases. >> I I do want to kind of piggy back on
that just before we get off with the get off the topic and you know the 50 the 30 and everything and and I get that. I just I come from the middle school and middle school athletics and so I just I we talked why I asked about why when we
say the word we um I know the high school is always it's it's the Taj Mahal, right? It's it's the big thing. I get that. It always is. It's it it makes sense. I do just want to make sure that even more than just dividing these things up exactly evenly maybe like this
and I always want to be careful sometimes I say stuff and it it takes a sharp right turn out of my mouth and goes a different direction than I meant for it to nothing I am saying I think the I do not want anything to be taken as a negative on any of the middle school athletic directors they do an
outstanding job I know most of them um I've seen what they do if you go but with the funds they have. You go in the equipment rooms and look at the equipment that our middle schoolers have and look at the equipment that our high schoolers have. We could probably buy
more and better for our high schoolers, but maybe sometimes let's look at it. Is it good enough right now here in the high school? And maybe we need to put some dollars a little more in the places that we don't normally put it. And that's I said whenever I ran for this
that I wanted to be the one talking for the middle schools cuz that's I I feel like sometimes it gets a little overlooked. Um and so just >> that's why compartmentalization compartmentalization >> middle school >> compartmentalization is so important. You can compartmentalize the high school
and compartmentalize middle school. >> So Mr. uh Mr. to your point. Um, I've been I've been hearing it for about two weeks from coach Hall over at uh Gian on the soccer team
>> and he's been screaming about their needs and um unfortunately he knows I'm a board member and he comes right up to me at the health collection and he's just screaming about what they need. And so I
took I said, "Well, so to your point, >> yeah, >> co do you know coach all over?" >> I don't know him, but I but I do know Mr. Dawkins who's the Again, that is not a slide on him because I know he's doing with what he's got. But >> that's what he told Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> And we collaborate with
>> the middle school ads. We do not oversee them. Um, but they were a part every they were a part of every piece of this and and we meet with them every 3 months and we go we go through all these things. I know at this point um Mr. Jacobs is missing with them every week,
every other week. >> Every every two weeks is meeting with them. >> Your name did come up. >> He came up. >> So that is that is that is not lost. Um and and we agree that's one of the things we talk about on how we're going to retain our athletes. >> Yeah.
at so at the soccer it come up right over at guy in moon school >> your name come up you you've been over there [Music] >> anyway I like the the compartment guys though we we taking a certain effort on
certain compartments I think >> and the we piece of it when we sat down is we didn't want to compete against the middle schools that's why that's why you know and that pie can change I get that what we didn't want is to compete compete against the high schools cuz if you are a local business and it's one of the middle schools or one of the high
schools which is going to bring more notoriety to your name and and so that that was a big piece of it. That's that that's the part that was very important to us >> in that in that I think too I think we talked about too though if a middle school parent they should get the same information but if they land a sponsorship those numbers don't stay the
same. >> Okay. That's one thing I want to absolutely absolutely >> so that means they're included. No, that means the the the the the do we have that number where we talked about so what if a Okay, that's a conversation we
we've had, right? Where if if I'm at Guyian and I land a sponsorship, I don't just get 10% of that money. That whole thing's flipped around. Yes, absolutely. But that that would be important and we've the athletic directors know and the coaches know at the high school
level there's a difference between a sponsorship and a donation. We know we have families who want to donate to their child's program. They can collect donations still that comes up through the board in our process. Okay. So there's there's the sponsorship piece and there's the donation piece.
>> Right. >> So there's we understand there's a lot that goes into this. I am I am not you know God's gift to collecting money and and going out and asking for it. Um but uh we sat down I thought collectively and came up with a pretty good plan. And that was one question that came up. Um
it might have been it might have been um Dawkins just like what if I have a parent that wants to take it there there's a donation process. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Okay. So, uh one of the other things Dr. Young asked us to talk about is athletic director's roles and responsibilities. There are many of those. Uh we pulled
this straight from our handbook. So, obviously Mr. Wallally is our guy. he's the administrative lead um responsible for the IHSAA and he has put us in place to kind of make it happen. Um so this is
just a tiny snapshot of what we do and kind of and within each one of these there's a there's a lot more beneath it. I know you you have this in front of you. Um, obviously our biggest one, supporting and supervising the coaching staff. And
I said this earlier, people ask us what we do is create great opportunities for our students. Um, so that's technically our goal, but our coaches we feel like kind of need to come first sometimes because that's who's touching our kids. The coaches are with our kids all the
time. So supervising and taking care of our coaching staff is very high on our priority list because they're the ones that are really creating these great experiences for our kids. >> Question. >> Yes. >> I see was evaluating head coaches.
How does a coach take a team to a state final and not be the coach of the year? Could you explain that to me? >> We we do have that in our presentation. I'll just skip ahead to to that piece. >> Yeah, I was just looking at the evaluation of head coach here. Yeah, and we have it at the end of the you
>> want to the year. You want to talk about >> You want to skip? We do have that whole >> We have that in the presentation. >> Okay, I'll wait on it. >> Okay. >> I just saw that in there. I was just reading. I'm sorry to get ahead of you. It just came to me. >> Oh, good. Yes. So, we will definitely come back to that. Um hiring coaches, evaluating coaches, scheduling the the
actual contest itself, the officials, the transportation, um supervising the programs, policies that coaches put into place. Um communicating, communicating, communicating. That's also kind of our big we communicate with literally everyone. Uh everyone in the district,
also our kids, our coaches, parents. Um that's huge on our list. And then there's a lot we're responsible for too, the Indiana High School Athletic Association. So we're in meetings with them. There's a whole book of bylaws that we follow. We're responsible for knowing those, sharing those, ensuring
that our coaches know those. um providing our staff with safe facilities and equipment. Financial management, we've talked a lot about that. Facility usage. Um it's like a Tetris game. Kind of trying to schedule all of our facility usage, which is an awesome
thing. We've got a lot of teams in the building and on our outdoor fields and uh courses all the time, which is awesome. Huge part of the job. Um and then the Mr. Wally's favorite one, other duties assigned by the principal. So whatever the boss says to do, uh that's
what we do. So really tiny snapshot um of what we do. Um some of it's daily, some of it's I always say the tough part of the job is prioritizing. I've got a game tonight, but I really want to get this crew for this 6A football game that's two years down the road. That's
also a big priority. So there's a lot that goes into thinking every day. Um, being a high school athletic director, it's not I'm I'm a person who really likes control. I should have known going into education that I was going to lose all that. Um, but it's just you never know. You walk in the door and you never
know what you're going to walk into that day. Um, sports culture articulation. Something else Dr. Young asks us to chat about. We do have an articulation plan. um kind of an overarching and then each of our coaches are responsible for this
as well which we will talk about a little bit more in detail when we talk about um our expectations of our coaches and evaluations. Um but our coaches are expected to provide this to us and it's really an example or an explanation of how they are going to communicate with
the middle school coaches, elementary youth. Um because when we say that we h when we hire a new coach at the high school level, we say that he or she is in charge of that program for our district, we want them to be out and
about um making connections with our our younger kids in elementary school and then obviously the middle school into the high school. Um our newer coaches, we kind of try to if they're brand new, let's figure out this program here at the high school. Um, then we work into, okay, let's work down at the middle
schools and and we eventually get to our younger kiddos. Um, they're responsible for meeting with middle school and youth coaches. They provide information for clinics and camps that may be statewide or nationwide. Um, they do a great job of attending middle school practices,
competitions, um, just trying to keep our kids here. And we've talked about this too, especially this day and age. Um, it's tough to keep our kids. So, they do special visits, recognition days, special tournaments that we hold here. Um, we've actually got our both
middle school soccer teams are playing on our soccer soccer fields right now. They're hosting the Marian County tournament here. Kind of a cool experience for our kids. Both teams won Tuesday, so hopefully they'll win uh this evening. That's kind of a huge view, an overall view of our
articulation plan. Yes, sir. >> Feet systems. [Music] I remember years ago we had [Music] it had been long ago a a an outstanding football feeder
system here. You've been here 12 years. You were here when it was here. What happened to it? >> So the youth organization did not report to me. It's the It's the responsibility of the head coaches, but uh Derek
Wilkerson, who's the president of the PFL, um I I I have no we do not work together as far as anything other than uh paying officials and helping out with scheduling uh the the fields.
>> Who's who's responsible for that? >> You're not responsible. >> Yeah. So, the youth sports coordinator would be Mr. Mr. Wilkerson, but that would be all you sports. And then specifically for football is X. >> You only got two teams this year. Am I right?
>> Yeah. Derrick Wilkerson and then Yes. Mr. Clinton. They work together. Yeah. And they've I know I don't know a ton about it, but I've heard some about it um just through our coach. I know they've kind of changed the structure a little bit this year. >> We can I can and and I don't want to speculate, but I I think if I understand
I could we can get you the answer. Uh Dr. Moore. I think what I'm understanding from you is participation has waned in youth football and you're asking why. >> Yeah. I'm basically saying when she makes a statement, what are what are the
coaches involvement? At one time our coaches >> Mhm. >> were extremely involved in those youth programs. >> And that's when when when our our football team was I mean was moving pretty pretty good. And so I don't know
what this new head coach does with this youth football, but I mean uh it's >> Let me help you out, Doc. So, >> okay, help me >> to help Dr. Moore out. Obviously, we are
in the community all the time. Let's just take example your foot what you talk about the football program. I've gotten from from coaches. Unfortunately, they see me, they don't talk, and I have to listen. I cannot
shut them off because they were some of the ones that help elect me as school board members. Some of them are certainly upset at the school at the Little Lee football program now because we once used to have all of the all of
our middle schools and grade schools play football together. Now we've come in and been overtaken by another league uh flag football and all that. And so now we don't have that feeder system
like that amongst us because young boys are not playing at that level. I think we got I think we we were they were downsized quite a bit uh to the point that some say well they just not signing up no more. So anyway
coaches have their own story about that answer the question. They had their own story about that. They also champ I want to push back some. They also have their own story about the football program and the overseer head coach because from what we also understand is that there's
no such thing. They do not visit these schools with the exception if they get win of a certain talent that we don't want to lose, then they come see them. >> But other than that, they're they're not coming to our school. Now, I get this on
a regular basis. >> The football program. >> Yeah. And I think >> basketball program too, but but but mainly football. One of the reason we kept Isaiah at the reason why we have Isa now is because the basketball coach did make the visits to get Isa over here
because Isa was being recruited by you got to understand that the same story that y'all hear plus you probably don't hear >> right >> that we do hear and and it's and it's right now it's just it's just not a good
place we talk middle school or youth. >> All of it. I'm I'm really I'm really talking about all those. >> Backing up to our our coaches. We do have several high school coaches on staff who do coach at the youth league as well. And I'm I'm talking football right now to address your question that
are on staff with youth. Um and then our and like what Mr. Paddock said, the the youth program itself, the organization of it, the game schedule, all of that is handled by Mr. Wilkerson. Our head coach does h he holds all winter and all
spring youth camps for K8. So he'll have the youngest kids come inside al he does it once or twice a week all um winter and spring. The the younger kids come inside. The older kids are out on the field. Um we were just floored really by
the number of kids he had in um the last I guess it's been two years now. um the number of kids that attend those, tons of kids of youth that want to play football, they do like speed and agility um and they do actual football drills, but that is all winter. And I know that
they on Thursday nights um like nights like tonight, our practice ends at early 4:35 so that the coaches can go to middle school games because our middle schools play football on Thursday nights. So, it may not be obviously the
head coach at every visit and they may or may not know who. I mean, there's several coaches on our staff. Um, but I know coaches do they are going to these events to their games >> and we can talk to them about expectations about when they're being there and on the sideline. It's different. They're talking to athletes.
I also know that they >> How often Jeff do they go? >> Um, we don't have to get an actual from that. To my knowledge, we can check on it, but they talk about it often. I mean, they'll come in and say, "Oh, the game at Guyen last night." They talk about it. So, >> we'll get that for you. I know like they
had the summer program where we had the the the gentleman who played professionally. I get his name of mine come back. But, yeah, we we'll get that for you. >> Question. >> How does the How often does the head coach >> make his presence known at the middle school when there is some some athletes
there that you do have to go put your hands on? And I do know that coach Holland is very good at going over to the reason his basketball girls are number one and then recruiting them is because he goes over there. He doesn't
send his assistants. He he scopes them out. He goes to the awards nights at the the middle schools so that those people know this is who you're going to be dealing with and we want you to stay here. So, how is the head coach of the boys
football team being held accountable that you can say, "Coach, tell me when did you go over it?" Tell me when you went over to to to to Lincoln and when you went over there, what kind of prospects do you have?
>> I don't want you guys talking about individual coaches and work session, but I think if you guys have We'll get that anything you want. So what I'm hearing is you want to know sort of how often what the opportunities are for the youth group and then also you know with the
youth program how yeah we get that information measurement of measurement better communication measurement that that way it won't be like a whether or not it's like oh we get a report >> what are you prepared to do to strengthen that youth program if you can
in any way what are you prepared to do >> what what can you be prepared to do to strengthen these youth program. >> Mhm. >> I mean, because uh I'm in a personal dilemma myself with with with with one of my grandchildren.
>> I mean, you know that. You know that. >> And uh um he's in Pike every day, but he plays in good Davis. And so I might want to make I want to make this statement too because I don't
I don't want our athletic directors I want I don't want to be perceived that we are picking on certain coaches but we do care and when you Dr. more talked about the feeder system. I think it's important. Yes, it's it's it's okay to
send staff when you can, but I think it's also very important for uh let's just use Jim since we're not going to talk about call names here. Let's just use Jim Delahan for example. >> Jim Delahan was at South Wayne. He was
at and and I know this per se because my nephew and all of them play football in the Ben Davis system. he came down to the programs feeder system and then he had the Ben Davis Little Giants summer camp and so I think that it's very
important and I'm not just single out no coach but I think it's very important if we if we going to have a a good feeder system so that so that our talent is not picked off. >> I think it's very important that we that we keep hand
and I'm with you 100%. I think one thing to consider is feeder systems look a lot different these days. I I've got a 16-year-old now, one in college. Feeder systems consist of 8 to 10u and then they travel. They go and play all over
the place. And we talk about this in our AD conference all the time. High school athletics are under attack because there's so much money made in youth sports >> and they they travel all over. My daughter, she does she she elected not to play softball in college because she played too much sport when she was younger.
And it's every sport there. We we've lost our best goalie to a developmental Olympic league in Carmel. >> So now Dave, I want to put you on the spot. >> There's a there's I I guess I'm just asking you guys to consider too that there's there's a dynamic shift in athletics that's changing and our
coaches are trying to figure out and it's to to your point. It's really got to focus on the 8 to 10U and the articulation plan. We talk about this. If if I have a if I have a daughter growing up in Pike Township, what does my articulation look like if I want her to play collegiately? >> So, I want to ask a question. So, where
at what point does she start traveling, which is what everyone's pressured to do? >> We we we get that. We get that. >> But we're talking about retaining the talent that we have. >> Yes. >> So, I want to ask you a question personally. What have you or would you consider
going to it don't have to be all the time but our AD director of the district or or or the high school going to our middle schools and middle school program say hey I'm Dave Paddock we look forward to ABC it's just anything positive to
say to our kids we're looking forward to you coming along in this system pike the pikeway ABC D and they and they're seeing who you are. They're seeing who a champion is. I mean, would you be beyond that?
>> No. There's I have a lot of emotion to that question right now and I I don't want to speak out of turn or out of place. I agree with you. I'd love to be able to do that. We've added five new sports at the high school. We are working six days a week just to cover events and I'm I'm not making excuses. I'm I'm proud of what we're doing and
how we're getting there. We we are we are expanding what kids are allowed to do. And then we are we are asking I think more of our coaches and just everybody in general um whether that's and again that's that's probably more than I probably should have said or got there but I would love to have that
conversation with with these guys and we've we've started the conversations as far as what what would it take to do that. I I know our football coach right at one point his position was designed to be at the middle schools half a day. We we need more people in the wait room. We've got 500 students in our weight
room. It's too small and it it's tight. And you want we want to compare ourselves to other schools and what their weight rooms look like. We got we got kids as freshmen at other schools that are putting in more squats, more squat reps as freshman that we can
get kids in that room. And so now we've got to have more people in there. And so we are we are working very diligently and hard with all with with all the powers that be to be able to do those things. >> I guess it come down to me. It comes down for me to I'm we're not asking him
or her or them to be at the high school 3 days a or the middle schools three days a week. All we're asking is because we have to feel questions when I'm trying to be in the hot room cooling uh just taking care of my mental state.
Somebody in here talking to me about Pike's football program and why they don't. All we're asking is it don't they don't have to be designed to go there four days a week. Just do they go and how often? >> We'll get back to you. >> Who do you go and how often? >> I understand. I got that.
>> We can get that back to you. >> Can I ask questions? >> Yes. >> You touched on something that is a little more near and dear to me. I'm the weirdo on the board that I love going to football games, but I still love all that stuff, but the other sports are kind of it's from where my heart is. Um, you talking about your daughter with
softball. Um, I saw that when I coached middle school softball here near the end of my time coaching, we actually started making games on the other teams. It wasn't that we were getting better. It was all that all their best players, even in middle school, was already leaving middle school and going to play
travel ball. So they finally had girls playing on their teams that had the same amount of experience that our girls did because until then they were just killing us. But so I I definitely see the travel mall and I would assume it's not just softball. It's everywhere. It's
taking the kids from public school sports. I I I saw that happen um more around us than to us. Um, but with that, I also know one reason that our girls didn't participate in travel ball, and I know what it is for softball and baseball, and I'm going to assume that
it's like that else, you know, across the other travel leagues, it's money. You you you can't afford to. Um, so I don't even I I guess my question is more what do we do? This gets back to the sponsorship. This back things for our
kids that financially going and playing into travel ball, travel league, whatever sport it is. That's not a thing. What do we do here to help them so that their public school experience with that at least gets them the
equipment, gets them what they need to go as far as their talent can take them as far as they want it to take them, help them through their their high school career. That's what I always saw was I got tired of it being that our girls are getting beat by them. Not because they're not as good as them or
even as athletic as them. They don't have the same opportunities cuz they don't have the money. >> Yeah. And then those other girls in middle school that weren't seen. >> They're not participating in middle school, but they sure come back in high school and they're really good. So, so I think a couple things. one, I think
that's sort of where we uh started trying to create some of the camp opportunities, >> which is great, but you know, in in an ideal world, >> um with a whole bunch of money, what what you could do, we've had this I know with baseball, you could have your own
what we couldn't do is sponsor you, give you money to go play travel somewhere else, but we could have our own travel team, >> but but with that, you have to pay all the registration fees, travel fees, and you're going to have to pay for a coach. too. So, I think those are some
opportunities to bridge the gap. I mean, we you know, you're right. Right. Yeah. If you have fans that have money and they can it's expensive, >> then they've got an advantage. I do believe through through through sponsorships >> that we could provide, but it's, you
know, it it it's going to take some money. >> Yeah. But there's nothing wrong with us creating our own travel program, but you have to pay for uniforms, all the registration fees for all the tournaments. If they go overnight, pay for that. And I think if you're going to do it right, you're probably going to have to pay for a a not one of your head
coaches, but a travel coach. >> The head coach has limits on how many there it is just such a thing. >> Absolutely. Now, the another thing that I've seen too is >> I've seen schools partner with an organization.
So, for example, I'm going take like my boys play up at um for the the Titans travel program. Well, I've seen some school organizations claim that as the travel program. So they would use that
infrastructure, implant their own sort of coach so to speak, um have their own coach there, right? And uh then all funnel uh their own the kids from that school maybe to that travel program.
>> Here's how that worked, Dr. Young, if I could. I had to say it because I experienced it. What happened was when we had a multiplicity of between nine to 10 teams in fight at one time, you do remember that they would create the all-star team.
>> Mhm. >> Which which then became the travel team. >> Mhm. They would they had all of those teams together and those and out of all of those teams what made it so phenomenal was they would pick all stars
out of each of those teams to create the travel team which made competition for students or our athletes uh young athletes more more competitive and they would take what they were doing more serious because they wanted to be on
that But >> team, >> travel team. >> Yep. >> And so that's how that's how it once worked was uh I think it's a great system. I mean, if you got 10 girls uh uh youth softball teams here, you pick from those group to create your travel
team to move up in Hamilton County to move to playing play all over during the summer. It's mostly in the summer right before school start at the end of school. But that's the way it worked at one time where all the tra all the teams
that were pike whatever you know they created that travel team out of those nine to 10 teams so they would end up with maybe 25 to 30 boys football
that is that were on the travel team and they furnished and then that's when the parents came in doc Mr. Pat made a great point. Parents are not ever going to go to a corporation and ask for sponsorship. They're going to give you donations for their children. And so,
uh, that's how the uniforms got bought, uh, and things of that nature for that traveling team because the traveling team had their uniforms were much different than playing for the Pike Eagles or playing for the Pike Giants or
playing for the Pike Owls. So they had that red that red jersey on that travel team with the with the helmets and things. >> Okay, move forward here. I know there's a lot we're trying to get to, so just slow me
down if I'm going too fast here. But this, we wanted to put this in here. This is something that we share with our coaches. I think Mr. Paddock mentioned our summer inservice every summer. And this is every coach from youth league to high school, head coach, assistant coach, volunteer coach, everyone that we
have on staff gets together over the summer. We actually had a huge turnout this year. But we go through this with them kind of as a whole group. Um, and just talking about these are our priorities and I've you've got two sheets worth there, two screens worth.
Um, our organization, we've talked about this a lot from the elementary to the high school athlete um staffing. Um, and that's at the middle school and youth. Sometimes it's tough to find, it's always tough to find coaches, even at the high school level. Um, but training coaches really on on how to coach.
Sometimes you I you might get a teacher at a middle school that says, "Hey, I'll do it." But they may not really know a ton about that sport. So, we've worked on that a bit, our coaches um coaching the younger the the middle school coaches. Talent identification and retention. We've talked about this a
lot. Trying to keep our kids here in Pike. We want to keep our kids here in Pipe. The landscape on that has changed a lot. Um there a new law was passed. The IHSA passed this transfer. I mean, if you think it's prettier over here, you can transfer now. You can go.
Everybody gets a free one-time transfer. That is something that we talked to our coaches quite a bit about this summer. Um we're meeting with them here, I don't know, within the next couple of weeks. Again, that's going to be something that we are really going to hit hard. Not that we haven't always discussed that and wanted to keep our kids here, but
it's tougher now. Um, so we're really going to have to work to keep them here. Of course, fitness and skill development. Um, game plans, so X's and O's. Academic plan. We touched on this a little bit. Uh, develop and maintain high academic standards. This is a
non-negotiable. You can't play if you don't reach a certain academic standard. Um, we send our grades out every Friday to our coaches. They're in hand. I think our coaches do a great job with this. Um, coaches and assistant coaches holding kids accountable. And then also
here, character development. This one's huge for us. Moral values, standards, exemplary behavior. We'll talk a little bit about a little bit more about sportsmanship, but that one's big. Parental involvement. Um, it can be awesome or not so awesome. We can have parents that are really involved and super helpful. Parents that are really
involved and a little stressful. Um, and then some that just aren't involved at all. So, this is something that we're trying to work with our coaches to you pull from that parent group and and use those parents to help get on board because they can help with a lot of the things that we're talking about.
Equipment, facility planning, um progressive plan for our facilities. We've got a lot happening right now. Um I don't know, I heard you posted a picture today. The gym, did you post it of the gym? Um the floor, the bleachers, it's beautiful. Uh we are super excited
about that. bright, new, going to be awesome. Community involvement, um, community service. All of our programs have a community service piece that they're responsible for that they they do with their teams. Public relations. So, we're trying to promote, market
positive image of Pike athletics. Again, this goes along with trying to retain. We want our whole community to be involved. That's something that I love about this community. Um, I've been at Pike. I taught here first for 15 years, so 25ish years. Um, that is one of the things that I love the most is that the community is involved and they want to
be involved and they want to have arms put around them. Um, it's a really cool thing that I think a lot of people maybe don't know about our community. Um, and that's huge and I think we can touch a lot of the people in the community through athletics and we try to to teach our coaches this as as well. Um, and
then lastly, administration facilitate a unified communication process um among our administrators and our leaders. And I I think we do a pretty decent job of that. Like I said, communication is literally what we do sometimes. I think that's all I do, whether it's talking,
emailing, phone calls, all the things. Um, communicating. So, that is a really quick overview um of our our high priorities that again we share with our coaches, every coach in our district, and we go through this every year with them at the inservice.
Um, so we've kind of talked about what our idea is, what our plan is, K through 12, this is how we want to develop and keep our kids here. And then collegiately, just briefly, because this was something um, Dr. Young wanted us to mention as well. Um, collegiate relationships. Our head coaches really
take the lead on this because there are so many things that differ from sport to sport as far as the next level is concerned. Um, so they do take the lead. However, we have implemented this core course GPA tracking system that our department pays for. This is something
that every athlete, we want every athlete to be signed up for this. This will literally track their grade. They they input their classes. It will select these are the core classes because the NCAA's core might be different from what they're taking. You know, advanced
ceramics is not going to count. The A+ in advanced ceramics is not going to count toward the NCAA core GPA. So, this program is awesome. They put their courses in, it follows it tracks. So, when you're a sophomore and you decide, I want to play at the next level. You can look at what you've got, sit with
your counselor, um, and decide, okay, I got to, you can really plan it out. I got to take these classes. Because what we don't want to happen is for a kid who never thought they would play at the next level to be starting his or her, you know, halfway through their junior year and decide, "Oh, I do want to play." And now we don't know. We don't
have all the classes we need. We don't have the grades we need. So, this has been really great. Um, they work with our counselors on this. We also, one of our assistant principles is awesome. He will take any athlete anytime in the office, sit down, go through their classes. Um, that's a huge one because they they can't go to the next level
unless they manage their their core course GPA. Yes, sir. >> Can you go back and elaborate on number three, head coaches facilitate college relationships? >> Yes. So this um and as we go through
here um the head coaches so they whatever it is in their sport a lot of coaches um will have relationships they know what coaches at the collegiate level they'll reach out to those coaches we do put it in their hands it's their responsibility to work with the athletes
and the parents and the coaches to try to create those connections so that they can go on to play at the next level and as I said it It's different. It's not something that we feel comfortable just taking on because I don't want to miss something and there's lots of rules, lots of different the time periods are
different. Um, recruiting, signing, but our coaches know this is their responsibility. Um, and I we've got a lot of kids each year signing in a lot of sports to play at the next level at every level. Um, division one, division 2, division three, we've got NIA. Um,
and so that I don't know if that answers your question. Well, what I'm getting at. So, so again, again, the stuff that fathers tell us in the community, um, do the my question is,
do the ads, yes, the head coaches facilitate relationships, but do the ads talk from time to time with the head coaches to see, for example, we have D1 players and
athletes that get letters and that kind of thing coming to them. Does do the AD sit down with the head coaches to see or even maybe not sit down but just kind of see what's coming this athletes way and
are they ready? Do the ADS do that? Yes, that is something that we talk about with our coaches um one-on-one and we'll get here too. We we meet with our coaches preseason each season one-on-one. Also, postseason. So, um pre-season maybe would be when we would
talk about the kids that are up they're getting ready. They're it's it's time. Um postseason maybe those that are coming along. We got a lot of mail in our office with the athletes name on it that we're dropping in these coaches mailboxes. Hey, you got letters for you got letters? Yes. And it's awesome. It's really cool to be a part of when those
letters come in 100%. And then those letters go to the kids and then that's and a lot of kids I mean they've got a lot of questions. We've got kids making huge decisions right now. Um and that they work with their parents, they work with the coaches and we we talk about this um at our parent meetings too. We
our parent meetings are individual sport by sport. So it's a smaller group. So we can sit down we we chat for 15 minutes or so before the coach takes over and runs that meeting. that we talk about all these things in those meetings too and let them know that they have several outlets coach counselor us Mr. Cidella.
Yes. What would Yes. >> What would be the a repercussion if if an athlete father knew that their son or the athlete was
not getting the letters that was coming to them and they found out what would be the repercussion from the ads? >> There'd be a conversation. I I' I'd have to understand and investigate why are they not. So, the father would have to come to us and say, "Hey, I've got proof this is happening." Yes or no. Okay.
>> Um, >> what what are your thoughts? >> And that's that's a pretty serious offense. I mean, that's that's that's a that's a coach that's not, you know, speaking up for the better well-being of their athlete. >> Just know I'm not making this up. So, just know I'm not making it up. That's why I'm asking the question and I know
that these are this is the setting to ask the question in. >> Yeah. >> Brought to us. >> That's not been brought to us. >> No, >> I'm a victim of that. Yeah, >> I was a victim of that. I was >> That's a heck of a That's That's a heck
of a feeling for a father and and a and a student athlete. >> Yeah. >> I mean, to to graduate and then they hand you your >> Thank you. >> Coaches can be pretty mean. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I said it. So, it can be pretty
mean. Um, anything else here? Eligibility. Coaches go through that. Timelines. I think I kind of talked about this. And then we do we share um obviously we share lots of things. Everything through Parent Square. Uh, our coaches really do that as well. And then final forms. I'm
not sure if you're familiar with that. If you're a parent of an athlete here, you are. Um, that is a database that houses all of our athletes. And so we have contact information for our parents. So we can send out blasts of information in that way to all of our parents and our athletes through final
form. So we we share this stuff often with them. And then one more slide here just on retention. I know we've talked about this a lot, but things that we are doing um to to keep our athletes here to make them excited about Pike to be Pike proud. Um sports and literacy fair
that's every year. Our coaches come to that. Um Mr. Anderson talked about the open house that's coming up in November. We'll have kids and coaches there. Eighth grade night, same thing. Anytime we're going to have community in our building or kids in our building, we want our coaches to be there. We want to
be there. We want to be showing off what we've got. Um we've got an athletic council um that shows up to all these events. They'll give tours, answer questions of kids. We always like to put the kids in front of the our high school athletes in front of the younger kids because that's cooler. They're way cooler than we are. um and they want to
be with them and experiencing time with them, going through the schools, seeing the facilities. That's a big one. Um this past year we had some athletes that qualified for the state finals in track and field and it was on the same day as our commencement. Um not a ton we can do about that, but we did a ton about it.
It was awesome. Um Dr. Young, Mr. Wall-E created an extra graduation ceremony. So we had a ceremony just for these athletes the night before or two nights before their actual graduation. It was really awesome. Uh they came, their families came. Really, really cool
thing. Just something special that we're doing, showing them that we support them. We love them. Um we are all over X website marketing. Um or actually our current our new administrative assistant has been working with us for a couple of years. Um marketing, she's she posts all
the things. Um the game day things, photos, scores, all of that's out there. Just recently we did our first ever soccer and tennis all going on at the same night. So we offered a one ticket for any student um to come and one ticket would get you into any event plus
they could they got a was a hot dog or chicken sandwich and chips and a soda. Um but really cool just something that we're just we're getting started. This was the idea of the athletic council things like that to make kids want to be here and make our the students who aren't athletes just want to come and
support us. Um, theme nights. We do this all the time. Middle school recognition nights. Every single sport has a night where we recognize our middle schoolers. They come, they come free, we do a shout out. The coaches kind of do that. Some coaches volleyball always throws candy at them. It's whatever the coach wants
that to be. Youth nights, similar thing. Um, and then this, Mr. Paddock talked about this sports appreciation banquet is something we would really like to do. We want to make it big and awesome. And that's K12 so that kids can see. I mean, we want to praise them. We want to celebrate them every opportunity that we
get. So, just a few things that we're trying to to do to keep them here. [Music] Okay, we ready. Coach evaluation process. I can't. >> So, another item that was we were asked to talk about. It's one that I'm
actually pretty proud of. Um Kendra and I have been working on it actually with Dr. Young back when he was the assistant superintendent. Um, when I first started, it was a page and a half front and back. Okay? And what we found out is the coaches weren't getting the message of what our expectations are. So, you
guys are going to see here the kind of conversations we have with our coaches throughout the year. This is this is how it was written again in the um the handbook as far as how often they should be um say it's here for all paid athletic personnel for the purpose of improving services to students retaining
and continuing services for the next season providing documentation determining compensation increase or termination. Actually we don't get to do this part but um looks cool in there. Um evaluations to be conducted the athletic director is evaluated by Mr. Mr.
Wallally, our principal. Every year, the head coach will be evaluated by the school-based athletic director and reviewed by the principal. In my 12 years, I have never given an evaluation to a head coach that the principal did not know about. As we talked about in
the beginning, right, the principal is in charge of all things athletics, all things school. We are the designate that he puts in charge of facilitating those things, right? Kendra and I like to talk about we like creating a great spir experience. We also are providing
healthy boundaries for students. He talked about coaches being mean, right? We've got to protect our athletes in in all areas and and so a lot of what we do on a daily basis is compliance, protecting the community, protecting the kids, and protecting our coaches. Okay?
And we'll get into some of that later, but um all that lives in our documentation to come. Assistant coaches are evaluated by the head coach. There is not a head coach that will give an evaluation to an assistant coach without talking to us first. If we have some concerns, we will let we will let the
coach know. After we sit down and go through our evaluation with them, they will then give them to the assistant coaches. Uh this goes into the at one point we had an assistant athletic director, event manager. We do not have any of those. And um athletic secretaries will be evaluated by the athletic directors. So what I'm
understanding is that the head coach who evaluates the assistant coach, right? >> Correct. >> But you all see the evaluation prior to them giving it. >> Correct. You'll see that >> and that that stems back going back to you know if you have a mean coach being
evaluated unfairly then then the ads can can be involved intervening prior to >> Yeah. I think we had a situation where we >> we had a coach that we were like n this is not a good situation and the head coach felt otherwise and so right all these processes are put in place because of something that's that's that's what
I'm learning and you know appreciating most about tonight is right we're we're we're aligning ourselves there's some gaps um right understanding your expectations and understanding what we do so I I do appreciate it again what what we try to build is a
structure and alignment for our head coaches there is no question what it is we expect them to do. Okay, the we have the summer coaches in service is going to just click on it and it's going to bring up this wonderful athletic framework. We can send this to you later. We won't go through it piece
by piece. This was actually put in place by um Dr. Jones back in the uh Dr. Jones and uh uh Dr. Young uh when I first started and it basically it's this is this is where we live. This is how this is how the district should look when it comes to athletics. So, we have our
coaches in service and the first thing we talk about every year is that framework. Uh, next up is the 2526 head coaches manual. This is 106 pages. It might even actually be longer than that, but um that is something that all our coaches
are given and they sign off on. A lot of the information you're receiving tonight came right off of there. Okay. Um, and again, we're trying to make it repetitive um and and add value to the process. Our my favorite piece of it is
you're going to see is it's the same pieces showing up in each evaluation. All right, Kendra, if you'll pull up the head coach's preseason meeting, right, we're getting ready to start basketball season. We will sit down with our girls basketball coach, our boys basketball coach, our girls wrestling coach, our boys wrestling coach, our swim coach,
and we will go through this document front and back. It'll take us an hour to an hour and a half. Okay. Are your athletes eligible? We have a little sheet for them. In order for an athlete to participate, right, they've got to pass five classes. They got to have a 2.0. There's a lot of
things that are in place. We got to find out if they need to have a transfer on file. If so, we get into the IHSA and we we process all that. Okay. This lays out more than that. Um everything from how many practices they have to have before they can start practicing, how many practice they have to have if they
mispractice. Right. again the compliance piece of things that could really cost the district a lot of money if we're in if we're negligent. I mean that's that's >> and also going to hurt the kids. I was in a Marian I was in a meeting with superintendent this past week. There's a Marian County school district that has to for forfeit every single one of the
football games and they won the first three. >> So the checklist that you guys have is one way to be helpful. >> Correct. >> How do we stay out of the news and how do we I when I no joke you can call any head coach in here. I look at them all the all the time and I say, "Do you love
your family?" Because if you're not following this these core fundamentals, you could end up in this place where you're not around your family. We've we've read about it. We've heard about it. I mean, we go to we go to conferences every year and they they go through all the litigation and and uh lawsuits that have been out there with
high school athletics. It is scary. >> Makes it very difficult what we do because we're trying to support our coaches in every way, but they don't know everything. and they've got great grand ideas, but it doesn't always fall within the confines of of what we've been allowed to do, whether that's our
district policy, whether that's IHSAA, and then the other piece that always falls into negligence and um expectations. That's I think for me one of the most difficult things about being an athletic director is understanding what we do. Um for our coaches, this is where we lay it out for them. So, we go
in final forms compliance roster. We we um we contract it with final forms. Uh this is where all of our physicals live. This is where our handbooks live. This is where this is where our parents have to get on and sign their life away to
allow their students to participate. If this ain't done, they can't participate. We explain to the coaches the importance of it. They've got to be green in the system. Okay. With that, right, there's always difficulties. We're mult we're working on multiple platforms. We've got final forms compliance roster. We've got
our Skyward roster, which is where we pull grades, where we check attendance. We send out attendance reports every day to the coaches. Students have to be in class at least four periods in order to participate. Grade roster. We talked about attendance roster. Then we go through, we schedule theme nights. All right. Boys
basketball, girls basketball. When's our pink out? Okay, we're doing that in this meeting. We go through special event night, senior night, youth night, middle school tournaments, picture day. We want them, right? This is this is two, three weeks before the season starts. We want them to go in and coach. Unfortunately,
there's a lot of things they've got to wrap their head around. Posts, um, where everything's being done. Here's a huge one. Safety training. We have to talk to our coaches. What do you do in case of a fire, right? What do you do in case where are you? We talk about active
shooters. You know, we've had some situations. Where do you go? What if you're here? What if you're there? What if your cross country runners are running around? These are conversations they've got to have with us. And we've got to mentally prepare them because, right, if if something goes down and we get ourselves in a situation,
you guys have probably seen it way more than I have, and I I hope you guys keep protecting us from all that stuff, but right, who knew about it? Who was negligent? It works its way down. Does the district know about it? What do you have in place? Did the high school know about it? What do you have in place? Did the athletic department know about it? What do you have in place? The coaches? So, these are all things that we've got
to go through. We talk about tornadoes. Uh, the two huge ones that have been um there's there's been some new laws written, so we've been, you know, finessing that with the coaches and working the emergency action plans. What do you do in case someone has a heart attack? We we have to sign off on
sheets. Our coaches um and the AED piece. There's three different areas that they have to go through. I think it's the it's the coaches inservice. Um there is the uh the actual online training that we do as a district and then our athletic trainers meet with them at practice and they've got to tell
each student where the AED is and they got to tell the coaches where the AED is. We got to sign off on that. Turn it in. >> Um transportation requests. We then say, "Hey, here's your schedule. Give us your give us your department times."
Our >> our department then goes in, make puts them in. We got to make sure we get them there. Um, we then make sure all coaches are meeting the provisions of rule 7 1.4 mandatory coach accreditation. The IHSA requires accreditations, right? And that
accreditation is everything from concussion to um >> illness, >> heat illness. There's there's they've got not only they have a test we give them, they've got >> suicide prevention, >> suicide prevention the has to take. >> Okay. Then we we go into the whole who
are your coaches? Give us your list. We should know by now. Now, if we don't, there's a problem. Have they gone through a background check? Have they Have they done the coaching compliance? And what's the coaching stipen? Okay. So, right, you guys all voted on that for us. We have to split that out, send it over to the district. They disperse
all that for us. I'm sure all head coaches have fulfilled their mandatory online rules. They got to get online before every year and go through a test on what are the rule changes. They haven't even started practicing yet. Then we go through and we review the sportsmanship program. We provide
appropriate access to resources. If you don't know, the IHSA gives the school a sportsmanship score. We start out at 100 every year. And from there, you can earn up to five exemplary onepinters. And then if you have a student that gets
ejected, it's minus minus five. You have a parent that gets ejected, it's minus 5. You have you have an administrator that gets ejected, it's minus 20. Um, so there's a lot of things that we navigate. Those reports come to us. It's it's silly cuz they will report a yellow
card in soccer, which is no different than an intentional foul in basketball, but we got to call the students in. So again, all the different things we have to make sure they're aware of that they got to do besides just coaching X's and Os. Yes, sir. >> So is this is this where maybe it's maybe it's your rule book, maybe? No,
might be your rule book where like um for example, your tour days and all that. Is that is that in there or your rule book like your practices? For example, we had a situation probably about several years ago in the in in the Collins situation and and he had that
when you I that triggered my thought when he had that heart attack and that heat. >> Oh yeah. >> Several was that in the rule book or would that be there cuz parents had to sign off on that? So >> Oh yes. So the heat illness is in final forms. >> Okay. So when they sit down and they
can't step foot on any anywhere, they can't step foot in the gym, on the pitch, in the pool, unless they've got their physical on file, which is which lives in final forms. And on there lives lives where the parents sign off on the parent handbook, which is almost as long
as the coach's handbook. And that's the liability piece that we review every year, send up to you if there's changes, but that's the part that we have to make sure is in place. Going back to that student, that's that's an example I use every year with my coaches. What if that student didn't have a physical on file? >> Yeah.
>> You would be negligent and you would be responsible for a student that passed >> and you would have to go home and face your family. And it sounds deep, but I want them to know it is deep. Nobody wants to live that. And I don't think the coach would have been, you know, malicious at that point, but if you're not paying attention to details, you're
you're going to put everybody in a bind because all right, he's going to get in trouble now. Athletic department, what do you do? How do you support them? Well, this is what we had in place. Um, but again, that's that's the piece you're talking about. Yeah. Um, we go through discuss postseason awards process. All right. At the end of the
year, you have to make sure you're a part of these organizations. If you're going to nominate kids for all county, all conference, um, >> yeah, ICCA, TC. Yes. Each each sport has their own associations. We go through that. Um, we asked, "Do you have any
athletes with upcoming milestones, coaches or players? You have someone who's about to hit a thousand points. We got to know. We got to know which week it's going to be. We got to be prepared to paint a ball. We got to know if we're going to be home or away. We got to tell everybody who wants to be there." So, we had that conversation. I highlight it because we've had some situations where
coaches like, "No, we good." And now all of a sudden, oh, by the way, we're about to break a record. Okay. That that right brings some other stuff. Online comp tickets. Um, we ask them to provide lists, right? They want to get everybody into the games for free. Athletic
trainers, we want them to know where the trainers are, what time, how to communicate with them, impact testing is something we're no longer doing. Um, but they're so used to asking that question, we just have it up there. We talk to them about how reporting scores, date of mandatory parent meeting. We ask them
ECA account status and fundraising. Where are you at? How much money do you have in your account? Are you good for the year? How are you going to feed the students? things that they're responsible for that the athletic department doesn't. I promise you in my 12 years there's nothing there's not we had to order some extra stuff last
minute. Yes. Our athletes have never gone and needed anything. Have they wanted something different? Yes. And I love our coaches for that. For instance, shooting guns. They want more shooting guns. I would love to give them as many shooting guns they want, but they're about 15 grand a piece. If I get them a shooting gun, guess
what? I got to buy football a blocking sled. I buy them a blocking sled, guess what I got to buy? baseball pitching machine. It doesn't stop with just one thing because right people start talking to us about title N Dave. Title N. Title N. You gave this, you gave baseball this. Why didn't wrestling get this? I'm
going to a board member. So when we purchase, I I tell you, we purchase to the dollar. It I know what you're going through. I sit there and I think I don't want to be a board member ever. I'm an adv. I got Right. So yes, again, mandatory parenting. We ask them core
course GPA. Have we just told you about core course GPA? Have you talked to your students about it? Are they signed up? If not, take a practice off and do it. Um, supervision, practice again, how do you when is practice over? Do you need late bus passes? What color are they?
Competition day, where are they supposed to go if they don't play till 7? All the things that Mr. Wallally wants to know about when he's like, "Uh, we've got some volleyball kids walking around. Where are they supposed to be? Let me call coach. They're supposed to be in this room." We know how students are. We can chase them all we want, but they're going to find their way to be students.
competition day, the big one. How are we gonna support a football game? Who's doing the clap? Who's doing the music? What do you want to look like? All those things. We we we want to give the coaches anything they want within reason. If I could give them anything, it's kind of like my kids. I would give
them everything and anything. But can we do that? No. Um, then we we get into the safety essential equipment inventory miscellaneous. I ask the coaches, "Where are we at with equipment?" You'll see when we do the end of season, I ask for your needs, wants, and wish list. They
bring it to me and I said, "Okay, I got your needs. I don't know about this one, but if you wait till next year, I think there's a projects come. A project's coming. We can fit it into there." That's how we end up getting things. Okay. Um AD to meet with team. We want to meet
with the team, talk about our expectations, congratulate them on the year. Team expectations. Parent Square. This is new in the last year. They're not allowed. They're allowed to use two forms of communication, but really three. Email, parent square, and final forms. And there's there's some learning
gaps as we're finding, right? Um you have eighth graders coming in and coach has been working on Miss Parent Square. I think we've been we've been working with Miss Dorsy over here and I think we got it figured out. Um but that was new to us. That was new to us. And so how do we continue to keep everybody looped in?
Um we we ask our coaches to do Twitter. It's not an expectation, but we know that's where all the students go and uh where we get a lot of our information. Again, they're required to do a BSN spiritware shop. Um what what kind of music they want, all that. All that's in
there. We do a facility walk through, what's safe, what's not, where do the where do we need to put in work orders, go to the order, it's a little quote I have in there from Mr. Inman. I can't read it. Excuse me.
>> Um, this was this was his this was his his anchor when it came to those things. We just want to make sure they're supervised. Um, make sure their sportsmanship and grades are where they're supposed to be, right? He's like, okay, that's bare minimum. Let's go. We ask him, go to the order, what do you need from me? What do
you need from us? Are you ready? Let's go. We clap. We never had to do this before. We're at a point now where I am signing off with coaches. Did we have this conversation? Yeah, we did because we've had coach Oh, we didn't have that conversation, Mr. Paddock. I've had it with every coach
but you. No. Here, sign. And you file. >> So, that's that's the preseason. That's an hour, hour and a half depending on the sport >> or the um how new the coaches >> how new the coaches the newest coaches might take two or three. >> The new coach. >> It's not it's it's >> a lot.
>> We put this in place to support them. There is there is not a coach that can go out there and say, "Man, I didn't know." You can't because guess what? Now you're now you're going to go through your preseason. Now you're going to go through your season. We'll have our conversations. Coaches are different animals in season they are out of
season. That that's all there is to it. We respect that. So we try to stay away until we need to talk to them, support them. Chad, if you'll go to the >> the self evaluation. This is something I love. I give coaches. Sorry. We give
coaches, I love this, we give coaches a self-evaluation. This self-evaluation is their evaluation. They sit down and evaluate themselves. What I like about it is I walk in the door and if I've got something I want to talk to coach X about and he marked himself as exceptional and I think he's
unsatisfactory, I'm going to have to put a little more intention into that question. If he marks himself as unsatisfactory and I think he's satisfactory, I've got to pump that coach up a little bit. There's no doubt we This is my favorite tool that we use. And if you read
through this, able to use final form Skyward in order to check compliance. This lives in the preseason the preseason uh sheet. I call it Mr. Wally laughed at me when when I first met him. I don't call it evaluation. We call it reflection of direction. Let's reflect
where we're going, how we getting there. Okay. There's a whole second page to it. We asked them program numbers by grade. How many you have? How many nth graders you got? How many 10th graders you got? How many 11th graders you got? How many 12th graders you got? We want to know that going into the evaluation. They fill that out. They give it back to us.
Okay. They got they got two to three weeks after their season to give us this. Let's see. >> Really important. >> Oh, this is Yeah, I'm missing a lot of important stuff. I'm getting ahead of myself. We ask them what they think their program strengths are. We ask them program challenges and opportunities.
What is holding you back, coach, from being the best you can be? What is your area of focus? This is their self-evaluation. They're giving that to us. So, we're prepared to evaluate and support them when they come in. Do you have your articulation plan, right? I always use volleyball as an example. If
you want someone jump serving by eighth grade, is that happening in our district? Yes or no? No. Why not? Who do we need to teach? How do we get there? Baseball, you want them throwing a change up or a curve by seventh grade? Are is that happening? No. Why not? How do we get there? That this is a living
document. our coaches go through that. What What do we need to do differently? We talked about K through 12. If your son or daughter was growing up in our district, where's the gap? Because the truth is there's gap with a lot of different sports. We have softball, baseball, two come to mind right away.
Okay? And we can make excuses, right? Cost a lot of money to buy a bat and travel all over the world to play baseball. That's the truth. But we're not going to accept that. What do we got to do? Do you have to have more clinics? Our baseball coach started having coaching clinics for coaches. here. Go
go go teach them this. These are the conversations we have. Down here is an example of what we ask them for before we even start to evaluate them. Program moving forward. ECA printout. Again, how much money you got? Where you at? What do you need? What are you saving up for? Same question we got. What are you
saving up for? Right? We had a couple coaches. I want 10 grand in the bank for what? Uh program. Here we go. Program needs, wants, wish list. I want a five-year plan. I want to know how to support you. What is going to make your team better? And again, I want a sevenman blocking
sled. I can't provide a sevenman blocking sled if I don't if I'm not prepared to have a shooting gun for basketball because what happens? They start pointing fingers, right? Assistant coaches evaluations, we give them all that. >> One second. Um, two questions with that.
>> Yeah. >> So, you two split the teams up evenly or >> No. So, how many of those do you do? >> We do them all. >> You you do them all together? Yes, sir. >> Okay. Okay. Got it. >> Yes. 100%.
>> And uh so these here, these self-evaluations, you know, you compare those you say that you compare those with the with your evaluations and you kind of see like you said, you know, coach may find themselves, you know, lacking in one area, but you
think otherwise. So you collaborate and this is all documented notes and stuff like that. Okay. Um then also you said what is your fiveyear plan? >> Uh that seems like that's that's on every five year wish list. I wrote plan.
You're right. Yes. The articulation plan is kind of their fiveyear plan. This this probably should say but you can Yeah. 10. >> Okay. Cuz I'm thinking cuz to me it almost sounds like each coach is guaranteed five years. You know what's my plan? Okay. Okay. We don't want to assume nothing either.
>> Okay. So, you clearly Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. We We do not have a timetable. We We've actually had some great conversations. >> You don't have the fiveyear planned then. That's not That's not >> So, so the five-year plan piece is is the needs, wants, and wish list. What in perfect world? >> Like in a perfect world, if you want a
dome, I got to have five years to plan for it. That that's what that's >> But you're not you're not understanding five years. Correct. >> Correct. And you'll you'll see where that lives in our actual evaluation. Um, so yeah, >> I would say, but it is important in case you're here. >> Oh, yeah.
>> For 5 years, we want you to be thinking about what the needs are. But yeah, no one should be promised that they're going to have a goal. >> Yeah. >> Um, again, so there's that piece of it. Let we can show them real quick the um assistant coaches evaluation. This is
what the coaches do. It's a lot more brief, but this is this is the coach. I want to know who the coach is. Loyalty to the head program. warranty of the head coaching system, care of equipment, knowledge of sport, teaching ability, ability to motivate, all those things. Okay, they will they
will do that and they've got three successful needs improvement, unsatisfactory, they'll just give that to us when they've turned everything in. We'll review that and if we okay, wait a second, we are struggling a little bit. And again, we don't ever go into an evaluation without sitting down. I mean,
Mr. Wali is fully aware of all these things when we come through. Um because his interaction with an assistant coach might be different than mine. >> Do you guys help coach head coaches with the the evaluation process? Cuz everyone that's a head coach doesn't mean that they can evaluate.
>> Uh so do you guys help? >> Yes. >> And we challenge them too. >> What does that what does that sound like? What does that look like? >> So I always I challenge I have coaches that come in and just give everybody a all success. This coach is perfect. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We actually have a spot on our head coach's evaluation where we evaluate them evaluating their coaches. At that point, I will say to a coach, you're telling me that coach could take your job? I mean, we're we're my biggest strength and my biggest weakness is I'm I'm never going to be
good enough. That's what athlete That's what athletics did for me. There's always room for improvement. I can always get better and I'm learning to be more kind to myself. But but that's kind of our thought process. If if all your coaches are top-notch, what is going on here? Because we're not getting top-notch. Um, and our coaches
are getting better at it. Do we spend a ton of time on it? Nope. Um, but we spend enough that they understand, hey, you need to have some better coaching sessions with your coach. Uh, we got some coaches that take it to heart and do it really well. And we have some that'll kind of go through the motions,
and we know who that is. And, right, we pull up old evaluations when we when we move forward. Um, >> we have some that may ask like during the season >> if there's something going on with an assistant coach or just ask for advice on, you know, what what's going on with the head coach, assistant coach dynamic,
which is pretty great. Always an open door. They may ask us about that and we can coach them on that in that way. >> Who's the old who's the old Jets coach? Herman. What's his her name? >> Anyways, he has a quote, Herm Edwards. He says, "There's two types of coaches. There's coaches that are committed and
there's coaches that are interested. I tell them, we don't want coaches that are interested. We want coaches that are committed, meaning they're doing whatever it takes to get better in their profession, right? They're reading books. They're they're asking questions. They're getting around people. We don't want someone who just wants to show up on Friday and throw a headset on or sit
next to, you know, a championship basketball team or, you know, show up just on wrestling. We don't want that. We're we're investing in kids. And um that that that is very near and dear to us. But that's the piece of it, right? And again, it depends on where we're at with the coach. we might have something else that's a lot more important in that
moment. >> It sounds like this process this process in place to me I get the perception that nothing can really get past you guys. You know you you've got your finger on the pulse of the the coaching culture the sports culture with a process like
this when it comes to the evaluation. >> I felt confident in it. I wouldn't say nothing. >> I would say nothing. I wouldn't say nothing because I I think part of that process has been developed over the years because stuff has gone by. >> So I think it's detailed but I think
it's always it's also fluid where we can also adjust that as needed. >> But trends I mean trends are trends are things that have >> you know gone by. So you can but you can catch a trend. You can never >> some sometimes though it may not be a
trend but it's a big enough deal that we never want to happen again. >> That's that's what I'm talking about. Yes. >> And and a lot of the stuff that you've seen has come through just you know hey we got to do better >> and we've got a lot of set of eyes between everyone here on on the
evaluation process. >> Yep. No and whole and again we only get to make a recommendation. I have never fired a coach, let a coach go without the powers of P knowing. We make a recommendation. You'll see where that's at and where that lives. I can tell you
in 12 years, there are two coaches that we have parted ways with that I can remember off the top of my head. I was thinking about that all day today. Like there's only two coaches in 12 years. We've had a lot leave because they knew where it was what was coming. Like there's no when you sit down with us on
that day, you know where we stand. And it it's not we, it's we, right? And we get the information that is shared with the group. Um, and we keep our eyes open for it, right? We coaches are competitive people, right? And and they are looking, you know, they are they are
walking that line of of of everything, right? How can I get the advantage in my sport? There's not a coach that doesn't. We are here to protect again the student athletes from those adults that are not in the right frame of mind. We're here
to protect the community for coaches that a just don't know or don't care. Like what we do on a daily basis, athletic directors, I want to be one. Dayto-day is a grind with compliance. And we're great with it because we understand the impact the kids have. Um,
and and there's nothing better than holding a coach accountable because I can't share with anybody how I hold a coach accountable. I'll get in trouble. But guess what those coaches can do? They can say whatever they want to whomever they want. Head coaches evaluation. So this this is the final product,
right? Um, fun fact, you've been you two have both been a part of a coaches coaching hire. All of this lives in our documentation as far as how you guys vote on a coach that we're going to hire and the questions we ask you to ask. Um, here's where we go. Strategic
leadership, accountability, supervision, operations, total points. Here's where they're at. Okay, we either give them an exceptional, satisfactory, needs improvement, or unsatisfactory. Right down here, go up a little bit further. Down here is where we leave our little
notes. We circle our our information. Again, all this stuff I don't want to uh if you guys want a copy, we can send you a copy. The coach has got a copy. Um they've been through it. Yeah. No. And and and if you find something, again, this is something that's been developed over time. Like I told you when we
started when I started um when I was an assistant 80, it was a page and a half. I was like, what are we what are our coaches learning through this? And so, this is where this developed. If >> I can interrupt you for just a second, Mr. Anderson because you asked this earlier. Um what we do is we each take a
copy prior to us meeting with a coach. We each take a copy and kind of fill it out on our own first just like here's what Kendra here's what I'm thinking. Here's what Dave's thinking and then we set up a time and then we meet together to go through our thoughts. And this is
once we have the self eval in hand as well from the coach. We go through all of that and then we get ourselves and typically we're on the same page or very close to it prior to then meeting with the coach and then we meet with the coach and go through it. Sorry. >> No, and there's there's again areas in
here. We'll send this to you. I I know >> it's I don't want to lose you guys. There's another conversation I know you guys are looking forward to having. Um everything from sportsmanship um you know are are they hiring the best uh coaches? How do they assist the strength
and conditioning coach? Communicates effectively. So, that's all in there. Oh, I think the evaluates go down. I just want to show because it looks cool. Uh, evaluates members of the staff to improve professional growth and job performance. That answers your question right there. We we make sure that they don't just
throw a bunch of satisfactories because they're buds. So, um, just go skip go up a little bit more and we'll come back to that piece, please. So down here, we offer the same things that they that we asked them. Got your articulation plan. What's your goal
for next year? Program strength. Here's what we think it is. Program challenges and opportunities. This is what we think it is. Equipment. Current. This is where we write down current program needs, wants, wish list. What do you what do you need? What do you want? What do you What are you hoping for? Because, right,
sometimes things we we redo a track all of a sudden. Oh, we need new pits. There's there's some money for the pits. Let's get them. But we want to know ahead of time what we're getting. Um areas of focus. We tell them here's where you here's what you need to focus if you want to be who you want to be.
This is what's got to be done. And really holding the coaches accountable is simply asking them what where they want to go and how they want to get there. And what I end up finding, you want to you want to win a state title. Well, you made these seven decisions this this year. Is that getting you closer or further away? You tell me.
They know the answer. Needs from the athletic department. What do you need from us? Are we asking too much of you as far as compliance? What do you need? Do you need us to be around more? Do you need more one-on- ons? What do you need? Tell us. And if you if if
you guys know us very well, you know, I I'm I'm honest to a fault and I'm good with those conversations. I just want to get better and I want you to get better. Okay? Some coaches are good at it, some are not. What I find is maybe two weeks down the road, you know, they might have some other things that
they want to bring up, but we ask that you you have the opportunity. What do you need from us to be better? >> Period. >> Is the uh the win loss conversation included? >> There is never a win- loss conversation. >> They do, but they input it in their We obviously have it, but they input it in
their self-evaluation. Just >> how does that work? We >> they could they could score highly on a lot of that stuff and say they they just had losing season after losing season after losing season, >> but they score high here. >> Correct. And you can win all kinds of game and score low on here. >> So, how does that not Yeah. So, how does
that work? How how does that work? How does that work? >> Um I I that's pretty in-depth, but I use the analogy of let's let's talk about our our friend here at Penn State, right? We have we have a Hall of Fame coach, right? who let some things slide. Is he
a Hall of Fame coach? Yes or no? Right. We are here education based athletics. We are here to create an experience for young people to learn about themselves, how to deal with adversity. Mental health coach, we're about to talk about this. We learn more through sport about ourselves than in a lot of different places in our life. Anyone here that's
an athlete knows that, right? And so that's these are the experiences we want. We talked about Isaiah. Love Isaiah. Love Jeff T. Does Isaiah need to be coached by Jeff Teague to get a D1 scholarship? Yes or no? I'm not going to answer that.
>> But I'm going to tell you, his experience needs to be the same as the kid who's barely making the team. And so for us, when we talk about education based athletics, how are we supporting the whole child? How are we supporting the whole program? Because for some of them, it is the greatest
moment of their life playing high school ball. I don't care what sport it is. Let's talk about softball. Okay. win loss record. Does that mean that coach is a bad coach or he's up against a different challenge than a basketball team in a basketball community?
>> The latter. >> So, those those are the things we evaluate and those are the things we evaluate and and so there's there's a lot that goes into that and and we talk about X's and O's. Yes, we all want to win. We understand what that brings to community, >> but we don't want to win doing things
the wrong way. Well, but the real the the real the real um how do I say this? Uh the well, one of the one of the real realities outside of you our created system of evaluating is one of the real
realities with with uh retaining talent or losing talent. Um >> if if if if if our community start saying I'm not sending my kid there and they are and they ain't won the game in 30 years now we going to have to do
something about that although they may pass all of the and look good on paper but somewhere when we sitting in here and saying y'all ain't getting that talent cuz y'all can't win no game what how do you take that into consideration >> through our honest conversations we've
had really good coaches we've had coach coaches that have scored high understand where we're at, where we're going, and left on their own because they knew it was coming with the conversations we've had, >> right? I mean, that's that's the reality. I mean, coaches are competitive people. They understand, and they understand the pressure for basketball
and football is a little bit different than the pressure for swim. And I don't necessarily agree with that. I understand that. >> Well, it it's it's it's not a matter, Dave, if you agree with it or not. I think it's a matter of of culture. Culture is it's culture. Culture likes to win. Yeah.
>> And and when they ain't winning, you going across town and somebody else is winning. >> Well, winning people are attracted to win, right? Absolutely. You know, but I think the other side, you know, of the coin, there's a school district next to
ours and close to ours and um very successful uh I I won't I won't name the sport. State champion. Uh, and then they're in the news because of an altercation
with a coach and a player. Um, and I believe that there's a lot of stuff there in the background, too, you know. So my hope and desire is that coaches that are doing these types of
things at a high level will will yield, you know, uh, results, but also we can have that conversation even though it's not part of the evaluation, too. But what I don't also want though is a coach who has won but could potentially
embarrass the school district to have a fall back on well based on my wins and my score you you know you can't fire me right or you can't justifiably firing me too. So I I think you know to your point whether it's an evaluation or not having
those conversations I think can help us in either way. >> It's tough. I mean, I I understand what you guys go through with those conversations. I mean, we been doing this 12 years. I go through these conversations all the time, and people question me all the time, but I can
leave here and know that I have done what's best for students and our coaches. And I can tell which coaches are moving in the right direction or not. And we can have a conversation with a coach. Hey, coach, you're doing all these great things, but we ain't going in the right direction, man. You know, we we ain't we ain't going in the right
direction. what here's where we're at and and we've had conversations about how we've never promised anybody in years, but like what is a what what's a reasonable amount of times, use your words, >> to get a program moving in that direction. >> I've been here 12 years. I you know I
there's very few sports that I can think of where we've had coaches in position in certain sports for too long. I can't that didn't have success in in those those areas. and and and again we're we are not oblivious. We want to win too.
I'm not I I shouldn't have said we don't talk ex or or wins and losses. I guess for us in giving the students the best opportunity. This is what's important, right? That's that's the foundation. the other piece
of it. We understand the pressure that comes with it from everywhere in the community because we all have, you know, I've become a little more, you know, Dave in this meeting because I got a lot of passion when it comes I've been here 12 years. That's longer than any school I've ever been in my life. Um, this is
this is my home. I love this place. I I've got kids that are in college that have left that I can call right now and talk about their experiences. Um, and that's what that's what we love about what we do. We're we're not, you know, we're not blind to all the other things, but we're also in a position where we
can't share everything either. Well, >> that's why I like these conversations. >> Well, I just want to say and then then I'm done on that on this comment, but I I do remember that we were a part of the process and I do remember that we were we I think Mr. Anderson was was with one
group in the interview. I was with another group in the interview, but I do remember that the parents that were on was was in my room in my group asked the question about uh the importance of winning and losing and the and the
interviewer said well uh I I I don't he he said when I'm not too Now I sat there and I understood where he going but he said I'm not too can't keen on
winning and losing as long as I can turn a program around and make men out of these young fellas and help them. So that warn me on on that. But the them women was about to jump on him and say,
"Oh, no. We we we care about winning in the news." And I had to jump in and help. >> No. And I and I love that. And so one of the reasons we have 30 pe I mean no offense to anybody else in the room. My interview did not include 30 people. >> Yeah. >> Right. We had 30 people picking said
coach. >> Yeah. >> And Right. Everyone has a different ideal and a different agenda. Let's be honest, what a coach wants and thinks. What a what a teacher wants. What what does a teacher want from said player? What does a parent want from said
player? What does what does mom want? What does dad want? What what does a board member want? We get that. That's why we put 30 people in there because it's an evaluation. It's got there's there's 15 questions on there. Everyone evaluates them on that. We put it together and a decision is made based on that. All right. This is this is, you
know, and if we had to, we almost had to go back and look again. But, um, there's a reason those processes are in place. And and I would put I would put this process and that process up against any other school. That's pretty in-depth. I mean, I I that's that's a lot. And I sometimes I, you know, I'm like, coach,
okay, it's end of season. He's like, "Man, it's been, you know," she's like, "It's been a long season. Now you want me to go through two weeks of self-evaluation?" Yes. And then take a month off cuz guess what? Their limited contact practice is starting again. They they've changed the rules of high school athletics over and over and over and
over. Our coaches coach 365. Um, and the difference at the high school level is they feed them, they supervise them, they they they they're social workers. Like we we provide a different service than youth sports. One last ask uh Mr.
Patter if you could just the evaluation process if any board member would like >> that the blank ones emailed to them uh pick up or you can send it to me then if you would like one just reach out to me and I can forward it to you. But if we could just the the evaluation processes
uh for the assistant head coach the three head up there. You can just email that to me and I get that over and >> I might have hard copies. I think they're in the blue in the middle but I can give them to you. the the digital will work better for me. Digital work work better for me. Then also I just want to add so because I do want to be considerate of of time. I know we got
two. The last two are actually very important. So um I'll let you guys on that if uh we do have questions because these everybody's been here since about 7:00 this morning or earlier. So I know they got them we want to get to. Uh let's try to as they talk about this
we'll take a few questions. Uh, anything else we'll do? Let's let's do emails over that way we can speak instead of people's families at times. All right. >> Appreciate that. Thank you. >> Uh, coach of the year. >> Um, put a nice little quote in there from Mike Singleary. One of my favorites
from my favorite team. I'll let you read that. But the selection committee before I even got here, this was in place. It is the ads and the principal. Those are those are the three people that made that decision.
Um, again, the process existed informally for years. This is how it was taught to me. I didn't make it up. It's not written anywhere. This is how it was taught to me. I think it's important to understand. Culture of the year is a recognition, not an evaluation.
It is a recognition, not an evaluation. It's no different than you see all the time. 2018 still breaks my heart. David Bell didn't win Mr. Football. I don't know how that guy was killing everybody as a sophomore. He didn't win Mr. Football. How? I don't know. Right. But there's there's it's it's a recognition.
So, I we had a lot of coaches up for consideration. It wasn't easy. That's a good problem. That's a good problem. We've got coaches that, you know, um got got some room for growth, but every coach is up for consideration, right? And again, the big piece, it's a
recognition, not an evaluation. I put this on here because I think it's important. Evaluations are HR processes handled through principles and are confidential by law. Okay. Again, I understand all the targets are on us,
but uh there there's there's there's considerations in place. Here are the things we talk about. Success and progression of a program. Okay, year one, that might look different than someone who's been here seven years, three years, two years, one year, but we we we talk about what that succession
and success looks like. When you came in, where were you at? Where are you at right now? What is the We'll talk about it down here. The team culture and team climate, where's that moving? That that climate and culture is not what you see on the field all the time. It's what happens in the hallways, information we
get from teachers, parents, communications. You guys get a ton of emails and whispers in the ear. We get a ton of emails and whispers in the year, too. Sportsmanship, we talked about the IHSAA, okay? They grade us on that. There's reports, coaches get reported on all kinds of stuff. Some of it we agree
with, some of it we don't. We navigate it, but that's part of it. Okay? We also discuss the the sportsmanship of the athletes, what's tolerated and what's not. We have some coaches that'll let some things go by and we're like we got some coaches that are like you're
sitting and we're like bye. Right. We that that that's part of it. Like where are you at with sportsmanship? I think this is a big one. Standing in the formal evaluation and I didn't get to it because I got sidetracked. Can you jump to it real quick? >> Yeah.
That's something about. >> So right here, these are the three recommendations we make to Mr. Wall-E. All right. Mr. Wallally then takes that up. There has not been a coach that has ever been put in any situation that didn't include them in our decision. You
have one of three areas to go. Full recommendation to continue with head coaching assignment in this sport. Provisional recommendation for continued head coaching in this sport. Areas of concern are and unacceptability. noted in the evaluation and will need to be
addressed. Last but not least, not recommended to return as head coach. I've never had to mark that. Never. This process weeds the people out. >> Yep. Going back to this standing in the formal evaluation.
One more page. >> That's right. >> Oh, sorry. Just bigger. My bad. We talked about this. Coach of the year can only be considered if they're in full. If a coach is provisional, they will not
be considered for coach of the year. Strategic leadership and accountability, we talk about those things. Supervision and operations, talk about those things. Alignment with the IHSAA, right? We we catch you trying to poach kids
from other schools and causing a mess. I mean, you could you could potentially I think it would take a long way to get there, but you could potentially get us barred from the HSA. We got we got to self-report these kind of things. They will put you they will
put you in their little paper that says Pike is on probation. They do it again, they will miss the tournament. I don't want to explain that to the to the community. development of athletes and assistant coaches.
That's huge. Are they are they doing those things that we asked to make the program better? Team culture and climate, right? A lot comes with that one. Uh community engagement. We sit down, the three of us, we have that discussion. We start with who do we think who do we think can be up there?
Who's eligible to be up there? And then the conversation takes place. An hour worth of conversation. Really what ends up happening is the conversation starts two weeks before the actual meeting. One here, one there, one here. Oh, what about this? Um, it was pretty unanimous.
Um, again, I've been doing it 12 years. It's never been done any different. It's how it was taught to me. Um, this is the first time I've been asked to explain it. Um, I can understand, you know, all that goes into that, >> but that doesn't that is not an evaluation of a coach. That is a
recognition and these are the items that are in place for it. I'm glad you said that you understand >> and I was I'm glad that you understand that because >> you know from our perspective uh being the conduits from the community over to the district you know we're going to
hear a lot of stuff some of the things that we don't even speak on but we just know. So when we come to a controversial uh what could appear to be a controversial uh choice like this, you
know, and but and this is why I'm like you understand what you understand the process, please be ready to explain it. So when the board member when we catch fire or when we get pulled it over at the sal gas station the barberh shop and
cuz we don't know all the ins and outs you know cuz we're of where we're at but when we need to come in and say okay I need to know in detail how did that work you know be ready to explain that >> because then that way when we have to go
outside of the community and we face that we'll be able to explain it. No, and I appreciate and I don't know the Yes. I don't know what we're allowed to share and what we're not allowed to share when it comes to those things. Um, but >> well, there's there's a process. So, if a board member needs to know something,
uh, there's a process. We we know how that process works and we we'll get with Dr. Young and we want to know every detail from from even the the ink that was used, the color ink that was used on the evaluation process. That's something that that's that's privy to the board
>> and and not hesitation. >> Yeah. And and there's been a lot of coaches that have been in the provisional state. >> We've had we've had coaches, >> huh? >> Look for look for, you know, us coming to, you know, cuz we got a lot of stuff going on, but look for us to come to see
how did that work, you know, how did that how the process of the choice and how that was all made. Look for us to come to down the line, you know, in future, you know, how did that work? Can you explain that to us through the right process, through the right channel? I'm I'm not worried losing the work session or anything like that. But just expect
that to be coming. Make sense? >> Yep. And again, if it includes HR, that's that's out of my hands. I would I would, you know, suspect a lot of stuff, >> but I think I think the key thing is like M. And sharing, I'm familiar with that. What we can how we can, you know,
maneuver through it to make sure the board has as much information as they need. >> Yeah, I got you. >> All right. >> Yep. Sorry. Um, but yeah, that Did you have a question? No, I Okay, you said we can do it at a different time. >> Okay. And Okay. No, I I think that's it.
Um Oh, wait. No, we've got the >> ethic, behavior, mental health. >> Coach Jacobs been waiting all night to talk. >> Mr. President and members of the board, Dr. Young, thank you for this. I'm excited about you know, this is my
passion. As you guys know, I know Dr. Young asked me once a month or every other month, when are you going to finish that doctorate? I'm working on it. It's not a sprint. It's not a a sprint. It's a marathon. That's part mental health is part of my work. When I came here, you know, I came here as a
former professional athlete, three-time Hall of Fame and Olympic medalist. I came here because we want to support our student athletes. And what we've done has given us that opportunity to be able to write that grant. I remember when I was so excited two months into the job I
went to Dr. young. The grant was 21 million. So excited and he kind of helped me understand that we will have a better chance going through LUA and that the 21 million was for the whole entire Samson grant. So we were able to look at
how are we going to support our student athletes. I am blessed you know we don't have it here that we have a superintendent and a board that values student athletes mental health. We are one of the only few schools that have a mental health coach and we have a a good
one, you know. And the key thing he was a former student athlete, you know, he was a student and played collegiately. So he understands when someone is talking to them, you know what, I know what to go into and was also a coach, you know. So one of the things that this
has helped us next one is how do we as a district and thanks to Dr. young helping us put this together. This is what every coach, you know, if we hiring a coach has to go through this, you know, program guidelines, you know, to, you know, it's
part of the interview process as an assistant coach, understanding the expectations that is in there for you to support. One of the things that uh Dr. Webster Jr. is doing is every week sending out emails to the coaches about
what the focus is going to be, you know, this week. And we've been blessed with making sure that those coaches and we did this during our inservice. I I believe Mr. Anderson you were there when we we went through that and what the expectation and guidelines are for our
coaches. Go to next. Yeah. So I shared about um Dr. Wester Jr. and the area and services. This was actually developed before I came here. You know Dr. Young had done the work with I just blank on
his name at Indiana State that helped create this. So we followed those that's this was already um being established you know when Dr. Young was in charge you know to look at the areas that we look we look at the physical the spiritual aspect of it. I know this as
and I'm going to say this publicly as a black male being an athlete they tell you to pray about it. I want to pray about it but at the same time there are needs that I have. you know, if I'm not eating well or if I'm not going home or if I'm sleeping with my friends, how am I going to be able to perform? It's not
like a light switch that you just switch on when you show up to class or when you show up to play. And I think someone mentioned earlier at a athletics is a gateway for some of our students. It's a place for them to express themsel and we able to provide that with a sport mental
health code. Not just Mr. Webster, we have other support as well. If you get to you know through the work that we've done IU School of Social Work have received a grant as well too. So they provide us with interns you know Miss
Helman was actually Dr. Young hired her. She was a teacher here for 9 years and she's helping with our student athletes. You've seen her, you know, she's goes to practices. She's been working with small groups, you know, doing presentation one-on-one as well, too. And what
they've done is, you know, create an opportunity. If I'm a female athlete and I want to speak with a female person, we provide that opportunity that they can do that. And we also have Miss um believe she was um a former Pike cheerleader that is all
Miss Jones, you know, so she's also supporting with um supporting our student athletes with mental health support and also with their families. As you guys know, we receive significant recognition, you know, nationally from
American healthier schools. part of what the work we do with our student athletes was part of that recognition supporting student. We've had the courts here, you know, that came in and help us to bring uh change to mind. Again, that is part of what we've done with uh
supporting our student and families, you know, that struggle with mental health. It is okay not to be okay. And mental health is real. >> And this has been really great for our student athletes. And that you can see if you read through the coaching guidelines, they are we they are
required to meet with they schedule a meeting, a full team meeting >> um with Dr. Webster and Junior. And then also the one-on- ones and and I feel like I don't know if you agree this year the one-on- ones have really taken off. There have been a lot of those and I
think that the weekly things that he's doing, I just think it's like anything >> it's really ramping up. >> I mean, as a parent, I can speak to that. I Yeah. as as a you know I mean your superintendent you've got your kid in school involved in athletes uh
involved in athletics and man you got I got the same issues everyone else had my son was going through a difficult time because of a relationship that he was having that I thought was just unhealthy and you know it was really through you
know working with um our mental health coach that there were some things that I could see, but because I'm dad, I couldn't seem to, you know, I'm that guy that's making you clean up your room. Um, but to have someone else who, you
know, my son respected to be able to provide some guidance to kind of work through those things and still be able to perform. This is during this is during the season. He was a fall athlete and a spring athlete. So, he's only out of season during the winter time and you're trying to go and perform and your
head is at a completely different place, right? So I I can attest as a parent, not just superintendent, but I also when we talk to people about, you know, the success of the programs have, we think about just wins across all of our programs. I always say it's not a silver
bullet, but it's really everything. And I think that this is a piece uh it's powerful. Professional athletes and college athletes have it for a reason. There's a reason, right? So we had the idea, we just didn't have the funding for it. And that's what project aware
provides. >> So when you have a student that's stressed out or even to go through a co say you know I just don't want to live anymore mentally. So what is the procedure? Do they go do you do do you bring Dr. Webster in
>> referral process? You know that you self referral the kids. >> Is it is it live on the documents >> and it's on Dr. Webster's if you go to Dr. Webster's um page there's a scan code that is in the locker rooms that they can self-referral or parents can
refer coach >> so the coach gets child contact the parents or do you contact >> Dr. Web to be clear if it's a if it's suicide that's a whole different and that's an immediate >> social work you know
>> that's an immediate report to thank >> one of them >> okay I'm just saying so the coaches know that right so That's what I'm asking. If they know they know the protocol that if if a student comes to me and says, "Hey, I just can't do it anymore and I just don't I don't want to be here. My boyfriend broke up with my girlfriend."
>> Yeah. >> They immediately should go to >> That's part of that mandatory meeting. Those guidelines that we put in place, part of that mandatory meeting is an opportunity to go through that whole process and how do you utilize it? >> So you saying Dami Co. So are they working out? So this could happen after practice at 8:00 at night and we
>> and it's happened. >> It happened. >> I receive a call, I make a call. the man in charge of the social workers and then and then it funnels around, right? Cuz I'm not Yeah, >> we've had it postgame in our office at 10:30 at night. It's Yes. And I want to make it very seriously.
>> When Dr. Young hired me, he said he wanted someone that is 24/7. >> Okay. >> And I've done it 24/7. I've been at McDonald's at 10:30, you know, texting him to make sure he knows that I'm still alive, you know, that we waiting to find a student
athlete. Okay. and we finally got our police chief Mr. C uh Chief Casper and we were able to reach that student and the parent did not know you know we were able to provide that support but throughout that time I was updating Dr. Young to make sure hey we are this place
my job and I'm I take I'm passionate about what I do I'm thankful you know to the board and to Dr. for creating my position. I love what I do. And I I I serve that every child matters. And I'm going to finish with this. I know for a fact as a student, as an athlete that
struggled, I also know as someone that was in leadership, as a dean, athletic director that saw a student lose their lives. That is why I went into this profession. And and I and I might just add also um as I would anyone else, not
only do we have our student athletes that take advantage of the sports mental health, but I also know our teachers take advantage. >> Cabinet members have students that >> take advantage.
>> Board members >> have students that take advantage. So this is and I'm not just saying it, but this this this is a this is a major piece. And not only that, I was over at the library just a little while ago and
our sports mental health coach is working with a young guy in down at Guy Middle School. He just got put out of the library over here and can't come back. I walk up just a little earlier and he comes up to me, Dr.
They just put me out, showed me his yellow sliff. I said, "Call your sports meal health coach." And I walked on in there. >> Okay. I said, "Don't call me. Call your sports." >> And he's one of the promising young talents that's coming to our district
next year. So, it's huge. >> My favorite part so far is the the last couple weeks, the girls soccer team. I've actually heard them in the hall like racing racing to go see him. Um, which was kind of neat because right my generation growing up we didn't talk about those kind of things and our
students are now racing to get down there talking about it. So it's been cool >> and plenty of ways to be referred. They can refer they can sign up themselves, be referred by a parent, be referred by a coach. Our athletic trainers have referred kiddos and you mentioned a lot of groups of people. I know for a fact our coaches I've had coach We've had
coaches sit individually with our mental health coach too which is pretty cool. >> Yeah, that's good. >> Um, but yeah, absolutely. And I won't pay back, but going back to my son, there was a we had an associate minister at our church who has a degree in counsel, those types of things. And I I
tried to set up an opportunity for him to talk to that. And he said, "No, I want to talk to our mental health." >> Cool. And now it's time for relationship. I was like, "Okay, cool. Long as you talk to somebody." >> That's awesome. >> Well, is there any any other questions
on the stuff that we've we've gone through tonight? I hope we didn't take up too much of your time. I I do want to say thank you. I I came in here not knowing what to expect. I've never been a part of one of these. Um right, got a little bit of anxiety, all that good stuff. What I what I believe to be true is we all want the same thing. We're
just trying to understand how to get there together. I I believe that thank you guys. >> Well, one of the things it does for us, David Champ, thank you so much foration. It it it helps us to know how to respond
and put to bed some of the conversations and the information that we get >> in the sauna or these things. It helps us put some of this to bed on what to do. So, so we appreciate >> Thank you. And I know we've we've been 12 years a lot of times been with you.
So, I appreciate that cuz I I know like you said what it's like not to know or being able to speak. So I think sometimes we get put in there. We like to close out. >> Thank you very much Dr. Young for having your team and come out and explain anything to us. Everybody drive sing
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