Good evening. I'd like to call to order the board of commissioners regular meeting. Today is October 1st, 2025. It is 6 p.m. City attorney, would you please lead us in the invocation and pledge of allegiance?
Our heavenly father, we seek blessings on the tasks before us. Bless our efforts with clear insight, our deliberations with wisdom, our work with clarity and accuracy, and our decisions with impartiality. We pray that our work this evening will find favor in your
sight. This we pray. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Mayor Brooks, >> here. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> here. >> Commissioner Taglerini, >> here. >> Commissioner McGee here. >> Commissioner Gabayi here. >> All are present. Thank you.
Um, do we have an Before we do an approval of the agenda, there was one item that I was hoping we had discussed at our last meeting we could discuss again today, and that's in regards to our lobbyist. If we add that to the agenda, would everyone be in agreement?
>> Yes. >> Will this be a discussion or a vote? Just >> It could be both. It won't be to hire a new lobbyist. That's not the discussion. >> I I I'm for discussion. I I I had really wanted to meet
>> uh R.J. Okay. I haven't had an a chance to make an appointment, but we could have a discussion. >> If you're okay with that, I'd like to do that. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. Then, do we have an approval for the agenda? >> Does that include the consent agenda?
>> We haven't got to that yet. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'll make a motion to approve the agenda with the addition of the uh discussion on the lobbyist. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please?
>> Vice Mayor Kerr? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini? >> Yes. >> Commissioner McGee? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Gavay? >> Yes. >> Mayor Brooks? >> Yes. >> The motion carried five to zero. >> Next on the agenda is proclamations.
I will read the proclamation. Florida City Government Week, October 20th through the 26th, 2025. Whereas city government is the government closest to most citizens and the one with the most direct daily
impact upon its residents. And whereas municipal government provides services and programs that enhance the quality of life for residents, making their home making their city their home. And whereas city government is administered
for and by its citizens and it's dependent upon public commitment to the understanding of its many responsibilities. And whereas city government officials and employees share the responsibility to pass along the understanding of
public services and their benefits. And whereas Florida City Government Week offers an important opportunity for elected officials and city staff to spread the word to all citizens of Florida that they can shape and influence this branch of government. And
whereas the Florida League of Cities and its member cities have joined together to teach citizens about municipal government through a variety of activities. Now therefore, I Anmarie Brooks, mayor of the city of MadiRaa Beach, do
recognize October 20th through the 26, 2025 as Florida City Government Week. And the city of MadiRaa Beach encourages all citizens to support the celebration and corresponding activities passed and adopted by the city of MadiRaa Beach
this first day of October, 2025. Next on the agenda is presentations. We have a chat presentation from Florida Representative Linda Cheney. Good evening everyone. State Representative Linda Cheney. You all are
proudly in my district. I'm proud to represent you all. My dear Beach. Um I I don't know if Ann Marie or had an opportunity the mayor had an opportunity to speak with you all about this check.
Um but MadiRaa and your neighbors have gotten some generous appropriations from the state in years past. Um, this year was a little different and that is because of the John's Pass project. Uh,
that's been funded for years and your former city manager did not seem to get that project executed. So, I did not feel comfortable putting more money into the city and I let your mayor know that I'm sorry you weren't going to get any
appropriations this year. and uh she advocated very passionately for the city and convinced me that she's going to oversee this project and that it would be okay to be able to fund any projects
for you. And so we kind of negotiated a a deal where I would fund a small pro or apply for a fund for a small project for you all and uh monitor the John's Pass project. Uh what happened with that
project is we were being told that it was being handled that things were moving forward that permits were being submitted. Well, we found out that was not true. And so I got on that from the state level. So all the state permits
got through. Your mayor is now managing your consultants that are managing the project. So we found out we had to manage the managers. And uh now that that's all in place, I'm confident that next session I'll I'll feel comfortable
bringing uh larger appropriations to you. But so for the good news, you you did get some because of the passion of uh Mayor Brooks because it was going to be zero. So, I know this is a small check. It's a H 100,000 for your storm
water project and um expect to see a few more zeros next time as long as that John's pass project keeps gets moving along. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Commission. Could we all step down and have a picture with Representative
Cheney? Yeah. I've never been to a city meeting where there aren't people in the audience. >> I know. I was going to say so this is like the drama free zone. >> True, true, true, true. Yeah, sure.
>> Good. Perfect. Um, okay. You were it was on video, so just screenshot it or do you know how to do that? Oh, >> let's see. I can't even read anymore. There we >> Oh, okay. Sure.
>> Okay. All right. One, two. >> There you go. >> Of course. will be on it. Thank you so much. >> Yes. Yes. >> Thank you.
Good. Next on the agenda is public comment. Public participation is encouraged. If you are addressing the commission, step to the podium and state your name and address for the record and the organization or group you represent.
Please limit your comments to 5 minutes and do not include any topic on the agenda. Public comment on agenda items will be allowed when they come up. If you would like someone at the city to follow up on a comment or question made at the meeting, you may fill out a
comment card with the contact information and give it to the city manager. Comment cards are available at the back table in the commission chambers. Completing a comment card is not mandatory. Do we have any public comment?
With no public comment, we will move on to approval of the minutes. If the commission has had the opportunity to review the minutes, do we have any changes requested or a motion? >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes as written.
>> Do we have a second? >> Second. City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner McInn, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini,
>> yes. >> Vice May, I mean, Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carried five to zero. >> Next on the agenda is the consent agenda. Any member of the board of commissioners can ask to pull a consent item for separate discussion and vote. I
will read the items. Item A, amendments to Aclarian consult and software agreements. Item B, mowing and lawn maintenance services contract renewal. Item C, S. Renee Narlock recruitment proposal advertising city manager
position vacancy and other senior position vacancies. Does the commission have any >> comments on this? I'd like to pull agenda item 9A, amendments to a clarion consultant and software agreement.
>> Any other comments? >> Should I move to approve the rest of the consent agenda items? And >> yeah, >> you can. Do we have a motion? >> I would like to make a motion to approve consent agenda 9B and 9 C. >> Do we have a second?
>> Second. City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Gabay, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carry 5 to zero.
>> Then next on the agenda will be amendments to a clarion consult and software agreements. >> Um, since I pulled it, I'll um start us off. Um I don't have any issue with um approving the amendments to the clarion
consultant and software agreements. Um I do have a I'd like to bring up as in a discussion um exactly whether we should continue to uh outsource this or to um bring in a finance director. I did a little
homework and I asked um Claire to print it off for me. we can we can print it off for everyone else for the following workshop. But I'd like to discuss um the need for the uh HR director and the uh
need for the finance director and um consider combining those uh actually and having someone in house that would um carry both of those positions. Uh in the package here, I
just did um an email to myself basically. Well, it was email to Clara that um provides uh the feasibility of the finance department to handle the HR duties uh in Madier Beach.
And um I won't I won't kid you, I used AI to to um to come up with the bullet points on whether that is a uh good idea or not. Um so I'll let you read through that at your uh leisure if Clara can
share those. I also um did a uh search on the uh estimated um residents in the different cities and townships within Penllis County and um Mader Beach and
the 2024 uh consensus or census is 406. So the one under that is Indian Rocks Beach and the one above that is Bair, the town of Bel Air. and they're very comparable at
3700 or 4300. So 300 residents more or less to so it's within a 10% range. Um, so then I went to the um town of Belair budget for 2026 and printed out for their finance department what they're
doing and their salaries and wages and what um uh what they outsource. Uh the accounting and on Belair the town of Bair budget is proposed at 455,000.
They do have a line item in here for accounting and auditing and and I know no one has a copy of this. So, um you will and so we can talk about it at the next workshop. Um so their their budgets total for the finance department is
considerably higher, but when you when you break down the salaries and wages, it's I'm going to call it comparable. But the city of Indian Rocks Beach, um, they have a finance director and his base salary is $123,000,
$830 with a senior accountant. They also have a finance/HR specialist at 70,000 and a revenue officer. So, their salaries are combined at 322,000. Now, that's before all the FICA and
retirement and and whatnot, but their their total finance department with a full-time finance director is 518,000. So, I want to have this um of course I want to share my research um but I want
that to be part of the HR director uh discussion because I really feel that adding a full-time HR director, they're going to be sitting on their hands quite a bit. So, that's my my opinion. So when
we get to the workshop, but as far as the uh amendment, I would say that we move forward with that. So that's that's my two cents. >> Do we have any public comment? Commissioners, do you have comments?
>> Commissioner Kerr, I know you said that you're going to provide that for us, but in your research, have you uh found that there those two skill sets are in one person? How often does that happen? Um what I found is um
it it it does happen. It happens. Um and I would encourage everyone to do research prior to the workshop. I mean, you know, don't don't just rely on on my research, but um uh well, Indian Rocks Beach, they have a finance/HR
specialist, >> but uh that's so that's in the finance department. It's not the head of it's not the head chief finance officer. >> That's that's the way I'm reading it. Okay. >> Right. Um, >> what I'm saying it's not the chief finance officer himself. It's in his or
her department. It's in the department. >> I mean, it it we went down this path um years ago when it was and the residents asked for a full-time finance director. And um
attorney Tras said that even though that was that was voted in, it was we could still h outsource that. Um, but it weighs heavily on me that if we're The reason that we we
decided to do that was that a full-time finance director we were told was going to was going to cost us between 140 and $180,000. Well, according what's in Indian Rocks Beach is it's 123 before
um payroll expenses and retirement. Um, but I'm just thinking, you know, if we have a demand for an an HR director, I' I'd at least at minimum like to have that discussion and comply with, you know, if we can
comply with the what the president's asked for and and get the HR director, I think that that's something we need to pursue. We need to at least review it and talk about it. Well, we can we can each uh do our own due diligence and uh do some
research, >> right? And I'll ask >> that to the workshop. Yes. >> Claire, >> can you when you do print this, can can you do that like tomorrow and just put it in everyone's cubby and they have >> Well, I'm more than happy to do that >> and an opportunity to at least see what
I did, >> right? >> My research and and I encourage everyone to research on their own. You know, I'm not saying, you know, I spent it m probably half a day on it researching and I
>> you had emailed it to me so after the meeting I can just forward it to everybody. >> Can you just email it? >> I'll email it. I'll just forward it to everybody. >> I'd rather not have it printed. I'd rather >> That's fine. Just just as long as it's distributed >> because it was emailed. I can just forward it. Because what what I did is I just went
to the well of course in the summary I asked some questions to the you know to the AI um to get independent thought on it. Um and um then I you know I can I
can provide sources but um this it's pretty open. um and Ellis County provided me the um actually the population and then I just went to the individual the town of Bair and the city of Indian Rocks
Beach for their finance department what they're actually spending for a similar size town in Penalis County. >> I think that when you I it'll be interesting to read that and to do the research, but I think that when we talk about our city, our city's more than just the number of residents that we
have here. We have over three and a half million people a year who visit us and we staff accordingly to that and our budget grows accordingly to that. So um but I'm happy to have the conversation and to work >> research how many people come to Indian Rocks Beach.
>> Not as many as come to Madira Beach. >> Okay. >> But I I mean I think it's a >> I would have to review the task. That would be appropriate. You know that's why I put in 85 and I don't even think we're at 85 employees. I think we're a couple less 80 81 83
but I put in 85 when I was doing my research as far as you know what >> I thought we were like 86 or 87. Megan, how many employees do we have? Do you know right off? >> Okay. >> Yeah, I I thought it was >> okay. But regardless, if you're running
payroll, basically it's it's done um by your systems. I'll say, you know, you're you may be inputting their hours, but other than that, the system your your software is going to handle that.
So, I'll hold till we have discussion at workshop. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Ray. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner. Then do we have a motion for the consultant and software agreements?
>> Sure. I'll make the motion to amend the clarian consulting and software agreements. >> Do we have a second? >> That was to approve those agreements, right? Okay. >> All right. I mean, we have regardless of what our decision will be down the road,
we need we need this. Now, >> I just thought I heard you say amendments to a clarion consultant instead of >> Well, that's what I just read the subject line. >> Okay. Your motion is to approve agenda item 9A. Yeah, >> basically. Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, we we have to have a
continuence regardless of what a future decision might be. And >> I was just trying to make uh clarify what I heard is the actual motion. That was the only thing I was trying to do. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> In that case, I second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Vice Mayor Kerr,
>> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabay, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on the agenda is ordinance 2025-17,
amendment to chapter 14, Florida building code references, second reading and public hearing. City attorney. >> Thank you, mayor. This is ordinance 2025-17, an ordinance of the city of Madira Beach, Florida, amending sections 14-30, 14-31, and 14-32 of article 2
technical codes and standards of chapter 14 of the city of Madira Beach code of ordinances to remove references to outdated technical codes and standards, providing for conflict, providing for severability, providing for codification, and providing for an effective date. That was the second and final reading of ordinance 2025-17
by title only. And of course it does require public hearing. >> Do we have any public comment? With no public comment, commissioners, any comments? >> I have one question. Um I guess this requires public hearing. So it could not
have been put just just for my own iteration. It couldn't have been put on consent agenda, right? >> No, it's correct. It had to be it has to be a separate agenda item because it is a public hearing. >> Okay. Thank you. Any other comments, commissioners? It >> seems to be straightforward. I think we
talked about this in the workshop and it was just making it, you know, it's kind of like taking the fees out of each different ordinance. It's just that, yeah, current, you know, using current dates instead of actual dates. I >> Then do we have a motion? >> Like to make a motion to approve
ordinance 2025-17. >> Do we have a second? >> A second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gavay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes.
>> Motion carried five to zero. >> Next on the agenda is unfinished business, ARFP for auditing services selection committee scoring results and I will hand this to Andrew Laughlin. Perfect. Thank you.
So just to summarize, each of you scored the uh proposals from the RFP for auditing services independently. And in your packet, I included the results of each of the evaluation
committee members, which is the board, and um provided those scoring results individually and then combined them all and then displayed the total amount of points uh to each respondent. So
that that was my job in this process to assist you in the evaluation process. if you have any questions, guide you on how the scoring process will work divvied up into those four sections and then provide you with the scoring results.
So, um based on that information, now you have that information, would like direction on the um firm that you all would like to select to be the um audit firm for the city of Mader Beach. >> We have no public. So, commissioners,
>> I'll go um based on the um uh the comments and the uh rating from the commission, I think it's an overwhelming support for Malden and Jenkins. Um especially when you consider
the uh the financial uh part of it, which I don't think we had privy to at the time. Um, so they are the least cost and I believe they got the highest rating. >> Commissioners, >> I agree with Commissioner Curry.
>> Yes, >> commissioners. >> Yes, I also agree. >> I agree as well. Do we have a motion? Um, I'd like to make a motion that we hire the firm
Malden and Jenkins for our auditing services. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gavayagi, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini,
>> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. The motion carried five to zero. >> So I added lobbyist here. I didn't specify that when we were agreed to add it, but as it is unfinished business, I thought this would be a good place for
us to talk about it. Um, does anyone have any comments or input? Um, I do. Um, I believe the discussion was um whether we choose to stay with
our current firm that we have a contract with or to um reach out to R.J. um to uh understand his interest and um cost. Um,
however, if we're going to do that, I would like to open the floor to uh other lobbyist firms. Um, I've done some homework here as well. Um, I'd like to at least have a
conversation with a few uh such as Capitol City Consulting. um they seem to be um a good a good choice. Um there are some
others such as Greg Robinson or Corkran Partners, but if we're going to consider changing, I'd like to have more than just R.J. in the discussion. I And I like R.J. I think he's very personable. I just don't know how effective. I'd
really like to get some feedback from Representative Cheney what her thoughts were, but I don't know if that's you you should I don't know if that's even allowed. So, um, but, um, I would like to
consider, uh, at least those firms that I just discussed and see how they've actually I know other cities in Penllis County and around in and around Penllis County have used them. Um, so we could
evaluate them based on the number of Penelis based clients, uh, legislative wins or appropriations secured and relationships with with key legislators and committees. >> Comments? >> I hadn't thought of that, but it makes
sense. >> Comments. >> I agree with Vice Mayor that we should open up the floor for other companies to comment also. And I'd like to speak with R.J. as well. >> So, when we met last week, I encouraged everyone to reach out to him and I know
that Megan provided everyone with his contact information and so if you had reached out to him, he would have made time to meet with you. Here's my concern. Um, he has a pro or my comments. He has a proven track record for our city of money and relationships in Tallahassee.
We are in a crucial year of dollars that we will need to have advocated for us on a grand level. And my input would be to give him a year
if we're going to start shopping today for a new and and I'm saying that based off of we got nothing last year whether I mean other than what we got today and Representative Cheney
discussed that but um so my Point being, if we're going to give an opportunity to R.J., um, I would like him to come and do a presentation at our next meeting, which is on the 22nd, but legislative session
for us to submit our appropriations starts in November. So, we don't really have months to shop for a new lobbyist firm. If that is if that is the di desire of
what you all would like to do um then that would be the consensus. I just know that we've worked with him in the past. He did a great representation for us. I made a couple of phone calls to other people besides
Representative Cheney and got recommendations. if you can take the time to meet with him, he can provide you with references. Um, and that that's that's my my input
and I'm just one of five. >> I also heard some good rapport about them. Um, but I but I have a question. Um, how do we monitor their work? So when our I mean they should be coming
every month and giving reports. Uh the lobbyist shouldn't just know us. The lobbyists should know employees within the city that that that firm is lobbying for to get grants. And one of the things that I did do was ask within
our employees who knew our current lobbyist and the information that I received back. So, I didn't come here last week with a with an opinion based off of Ann Marie. I came here based off of an opinion of speaking to other people
within the city as to their experience and because we're getting ready to submit and um the feedback I got was much more it wasn't positive. there wasn't a
relationship and that's important and though and those people had a relationship with our previous lobbyist representatives. So that's what brought
us here last week to the conversation. It's a I I see I see the the the issue. It's it's it's it's a little complicated. We need to get started. But I also see that uh it would be good at this point if we're going to switch
lobbyists. Look around. Um Commissioner Kerr, how would you feel if we I mean two of us at least have not met him yet. I I know I had the opportunity. I've I just haven't had a chance to reach out to him. if after we make that that if I could
just get a chance to talk to him and we we do it for a year and then uh maybe do a search during that time or make a decision later. Is that you you would still rather search first? >> Well, I would just like to Well, let me back up.
My opportunity to meet with R.J. a couple of years ago, like I said, I like R.J. he's very personable, very, very nice person. and we had coffee. Uh we talked about a lot of things. One of the things we talked about was resiliency of
the city and I was told don't go there. This the the state is not going to approve any of that. It was like well what do what are we really what are we what are we going for? So as much as I like R.J.
per as a person. I don't know if he has the conviction on some of the things that we're really looking for such as resiliency. Now, that being said, um with the board's approval, I I would
reach out to not only R.J., but some of the other firms and just see what kind of um what they tell me. you know, is it too too late in the in the year to to consider that? You know, what would
their fees be? We can look at that. Um, you know, what you know, get a list like I like I mentioned, get a list of their um uh legislative wins, the appropriations that they secured for for their clients
in Penllis County. Do they have clients in Penllis County? Um, and at least Let R.J. if you want to do a presentation at the workshop, great. I, you know, but I I I feel like we're
we're not doing a full due diligence. Um, the mayor mentioned his, you know, what he's brought to the city. Do you have a sum quick summary of that by chance >> the successes? >> I do.
>> Great. Wonderful. Hold on. It'll take me just one second. >> Yeah, >> because I did I requested a list from someone else. >> Um, roadway improvements, I'm going to round to the nearest 550,000. The beach groin
rehabilitation a,750. Um, undergrounding a million. The John's Pass dredging a,560. A seaw wall replacement 100,000. I don't know the years. Those were the
most recent. Those were all >> So R.J. He did R.J. was >> our lobbyist for all of those. >> For all all those. Okay. Good. >> So I I'm not I'm not trying to to like push him in or anything. That's not my intent. So if if it is the desire that
we get presentations, this isn't a bid process. This falls outside of having to bid. However, I don't think that we should vote on anything that makes anyone up here uncomfortable. We've been fair to do that, right? To be fair. So, we have on
the 22nd, we could ask R.J. to come and do a presentation. If you had someone else, we could get the city manager to reach out and request them to come for that presentation. And then I would think that at that meeting we would be
able to come to a consensus >> at that time. >> Would that be an acceptable? >> I like that idea. >> That's that's that's fine. Um so is the direction that I not reach out to any of these give this >> Well, I'm not going to reach out to R.J. for a presentation. I'm going to ask the
city manager to Okay. >> Um so I think it would be that would I mean to me that would be the most appropriate I I could definitely forward this uh to the acting city manager and ask him to um do just that. um asked for
you know their interest and the three the the evaluation there's three bullet things that I've I've asked for um number of panelis based clients their wins and appropriations
and um their relationship with key state legislatores and committees I think yeah >> so we would meet on we have our meeting in October on the 22nd and it's a workshop and then our only meeting in November we hold on the 12th. So
whatever decision we make, we could vote >> on that at that time. Do we want to vote today to notify our current lobbyist that we're going to leave our contract with them?
>> What what's what's their contract? >> We have to give a notice. Is it a 30-day contract? Does anyone >> uh the city attorney >> I would be careful to to give a notice of termination before you've got someone else on board. Maybe no one else will take on the responsibility and you've
just cut your ties and have no lobbyist. Okay. So, just my suggestion. >> That's great advice. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. >> I have a question just uh because I don't know. I'm asking. So, is a lobbyist typically um hired by this
board or the city manager? >> It would be by you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Board. >> Um >> you may authorize the city manager to sign the contract, but this is a big deal. It would it would come here. >> Yeah. >> Yes. So, I I would be in favor of having
R.J. pres make make a presentation. >> Okay. then we will have that on our on our agenda for the workshop. >> Okay. Great idea. >> Great. Great idea. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. >> Next on the agenda is contracts agreements. A is the property purchase
approval of contract. City attorney. I mean I'm sorry, city manager. >> No worries. Um, mayor commission, what you have before you is the clean copy, seller signed copy of the real estate
agreement for the property at 555th Avenue. Um, in that packet is also two appraisals, one coming in at 21 million and one coming in at 27.5
million. Um the agreed upon price is $18 million and they are asking for 50,000 due in 5 days after agreement and then a 1022 closing date. >> We have no public for comment.
Commissioners >> comments >> I'll start us off. Why not? on a roll. Um, this piece of property is an opportunity that will only come by us once. Um, I I I say
that I think it did come by the board a few decades ago or something and they they did not take it. I could be wrong on that. Um, it is
a very large investment for a small city such as ours. However, I can only speak personally of the vision that I have for MadiRaa Beach being a fishing town to have a suitable
marina and and um attraction for the tourism that that keeps us keeps us going. Um, I did reach out uh to attorney Tras and
ask what if we could, you know, what what would limit us from making this a revenue generating property. Um, you know, it's it's 4 and a half acres, 4.6 acres. Um
let's say we we wanted to put in um the marina and not only all the marina services that we have at the our existing marina but other services where people would come in and actually
have short-term rental there stays VBO type stays or longer term or um the response was that we since it was not in a residential
neighborhood that we would be able to actually um have that as a you know to have a return on our investment. Um who knows how that would be developed. That's too far in
down the road to really figure out. But um I would I would support the purchase I also agree with that. I think it's a great investment for the city. I believe that we're going to purchase a piece of
property that's actually um under the appraised value. Um, anytime you come across something like a property like this, I think the city should take advant advantage of it and the residents and the the tourists
alike will really enjoy this and the future of Madira Beach. So, uh, they've the two commissioners have said just about everything. Uh, I I like the idea that we're in control of what people see first when they come over Tom
Stewart Causeway for a change. we get to we get to decide what what it looks like and I I think that's very positive plus everything commissioner Ker and Commissioner McGhian said. >> So I have a couple of questions. Uh question number one um how are we going
to pay for this? What sort of an interest rate can we pay for it? Um, second is obviously long-term it appears what I'm hearing is we want to be in the
business of retail or overnight accommodation. Um, how that's addressed. Um, I'm thinking maybe some cities do this
already. I'm not 100% sure. I would like to look into it to see how they manage properties and businesses and leases and things of that nature.
Um, do we need to respond to this proposal pretty quickly? >> We're voting on it today, yes or no, to purchase it. Um, Andrew can answer to the financing part of it, but I would like to say that I have been advocating
for this purchase of this property for many, many, many months. And the opportunity and what I said to have said several times is the purchase is the easy part. It's what do you do with it after you purchase it. So, um,
and I think that's a discussion that will be community involvement. There'll be a lot of um involvement in that conversation. We know we need an area for a public works building. Um the aspect of having boat slips all around
the property and um making it a recreation primarily recreation green space. There is money I've already spoken with some of our elected officials. There's money on the federal level and on the state level to help
fund not only the vote slips at a 50/50 split, but other things that we could do there. This is a prime time for us to make a purchase of a piece of property that can get incorporated into our
master plan and then for it to be part of our strate strategic planning that we're going to do in hopefully in the next few months and have something for the city that is fantastic.
Um if you look down at city of St. beat. They purchase property for the sole purpose of recreation. Clearwater's done it. Uh I believe uh Duneden has done it. Safety Harbor I think has done it. So
the opportunity to own a piece of property that will take us some time to make all the decisions on doesn't come along. And I don't right off can't think of any other piece of property in the city that
we could purchase and make such an impact on the residents long-term as this piece of property would be. Now, as to the so that's the the paying of the building it out and once you build once you come to the the
decision on how to build out that um boat slip area extension of the marina then that is going to be revenue generating and uh Andrew can speak to how we will physically pay for it and what our
options are. Um, let me just clarify. I am in favor of the property, >> but you know, I would like to do some due diligence. I'm sure due diligence happened. Maybe there's some geotechnical engineering that was done
to see what sort of a soil we might have there. Do we have any environmental concerns like level one? Uh, just a couple of couple of concerns I have. I think they were that was that's been done >> that was addressed in the in the contract itself. >> Yeah, it's in the contract.
>> So, I believe it's a you know, >> if if we vote to to move forward and purchase this, I believe that there's some earnest money, $50,000 or something that is that has gone into escrow and but your concerns
were in the contract that I >> Yes, they are. Um so my only other two cents is that um Kimley Horn had me mentioned that they they were successful in getting uh a their
largest grant ironically for this type of of purchase for the city for a city was $18 million. So to my only concern is that by
purchasing it before we get a grant, are we still eligible to get a grant? Don't know, but I think I' tomorrow morning I think I'd get them on the horn and find out. Yeah, the Kimley horn
and and um tell them of what our what we plan to do and what see what they can do. to help us uh secure a grant for a marina. That one young lady that was here, she I think she I think it was either
Louisiana or some one of those states where she was adamant about marinas and she just every city such as ours if we I mean that is such a big big big deal >> working marinas there's a lot of money for that. >> Yeah. So, um, you know, like, uh, the
mayor mentioned, we'll have workshops over workshops on how we what the what the plan will look like if we secure this property. Um, but, um, yeah, if we can get if we can get grant
money in addition to that, oh my lord, it makes it it makes it a no-brainer. Um, I had one other thought and I've lost it because I'm I'm getting old. >> I I would love to hear what Andrew says about >> Yes. about the
>> first question. Are we going to pay for it? >> Yes, >> sure. So, good news is we've got flexibility. So, what we currently have in cash and short-term investments in the local government investment pool totals almost
$40 million. So about 37 38 million I think current cash and liquid investments on hand. So my proposal would be that we if we're moving forward with this closing towards the end of October that we pay out of current
reserves out of current available cash. What I would recommend is that we do a reimbursement go through a reimbursement resolution at the next regular meeting which should be in November and that would preserve the city's ability to uh
engage in a in a taxexempt finance at a future date. So pay and so basically the city can reimburse itself for the $18 million paid in a time in the taxexempt financing. And I don't necessarily want to rush that because we have this 18, you know, I think we got almost 40
million in the bank, but now we're going to spend $18 million on the land. We've got storm water improvement projects and and and various projects and areas that we're looking at. We've got what do we our development on this property? What is that going to look like? What are those
development costs going to be? Um, so you know, it's not just necessarily let's just get and we could we could say let's just go do a bank RFP and get a bank loan for a tax exempt financing for all or a part of that $18 million and then we can worry about the development
stuff and how much that's going to cost. maybe wrap that in with other projects and other that we're going to endeavor to perform over the next two to three years and do a separate um uh debt issuance for that. Um I also want to
find out more about the intended purpose of the the land itself that if there's going to be any kind of P3 a public private partnership and there's going to be um business use not in the control of the city that could affect the the taxexempt nature of the financing. and
why do we want tax exempt financing because that'll be in a lower debt service cost, lower interest rate. So all these are things that we need to consider and talk about. Um but the good news is we don't have to make this decision in the immediate near term
because we do have cash on hand available to go ahead and and stroke a check and make the purchase. But all these things are going through my mind now and that what I'll work with collectively with uh leadership and the commission to determine what are these
not only the purchase cost but also the development costs both for the land as well as other big tick items that we have and and have a more all-encompassing financing plan which could be a fixed you know fixed loan or it could be a commercial paper program kind of a line of credit facility where
there's draw down. So a lot of different options we can pursue. I don't have all those answers on that. I just know if you do want to move forward with this purchase, we can do that without immediately borrowing funds and then but there are things where we're going to need to strategize for long term. Um and
that will require borrowing. Hope that helps. >> Thanks. >> That's that's great. I did remember what I was thinking. >> Okay. There is a um very large contingency of people that um live on their boats and
just travel the world and they um they find marinas where they might stay for a week, they might stay for a month and then they move on to another marina. Um I mean there is a captive audience for
that type of of revenue. Uh there's so many revenue generating options that would still keep it as a marina and still keep it to the true spirit of what in my opinion we want MadiRaa Beach to be. Um and I just
wanted to bring that to light. >> So you're talking about transient slips. So our current marina has transient slips that houses or docks who you're exactly talking about those people like the loopers that do the loopers that they come in and um there are slips that
are dedicated and if Krabby was here he could speak specifically to it but roughly it is >> when we got the grant to build those docks it was a requirement to get that funding that we had to have so many slips dedicated to transit slips.
>> Are they pretty full? Yeah. Yeah. Surprisingly, I think the marina is on like a two-year wait. >> There's very limited services at the marina currently. Yeah. You can get fuel, but that's it. There's there's no >> And people still come,
>> right? So, >> I mean, I can see them. >> Imagine, you know, I'll just say imagine leave it. >> That's the part of when that's the part of to me buying the property is the easy part. That's the super easy part. The next part is
we know we have this need but it's only a small portion of the property. What do we do with the rest of it? That Marcy did you want to share anything? >> Um um Commissioner Gahi um you had mentioned the soils and environmental I
did receive a packet from Clint and it because there's been projects proposed on there. They have done the geote a lot of geotechnical work and there was uh no real identified anomalies. Most of them were like um the piles going to 30 feet standard 14 you know 14 in squared. So
the soils reports looked good and the environmental report when it was done while they identified various minor things um the environmental phase one came back fine. So, and that was as of like 20 2018 and I think the environmental report was maybe 2020, but
since the property's not been developed since then. So, >> understood. Um, we have an up-to-date survey, right? Is there a survey on the property already? >> There was a survey attached to the document, but not one that we've commissioned. So, I'm not sure if we're be doing that. >> We haven't done a survey ourselves. We
got received two appraisals. Um that boat dock, the the boat loading area that is not ours, right? It's the neighbor to the
west of us. >> Correct. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anything further? Do we have a motion? I move that we approve the purchase of
this property. >> Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabayi, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee,
>> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carried five to zero. Super excited. Yeah. Yeah. >> Next on the agenda is G Beach's public
library agreement. City attorney, >> city, >> I got it. I got it. >> Oh, I'm sorry. City manager. I just want to give everything next door. >> It'd be easier for me. >> Um, what you have in your packet is a Gulf Beach's public library service
contract for city of Madura Beach. runs through fiscal year FY2526 and they we give them an amount of $99,78 for fiscal year beginning October 1,
2025 and ending September 30th, 2026 >> with no public commissioners. Do you have any comments? >> I support this. Yeah. No comments. >> No comments. >> Do we have a motion? >> I make a motion to enter into agreement
with the Golf Peaches Public Library for the amount. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gavay, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> Motion carry five to zero. >> Next on the agenda is new business, a final FEMA payout for administrative work. Catz approval. >> So what this is, uh, mayor and
commissioners, is the final payout from Hurricane Ian in 2022 for administrative work. the final administrative work that Karen Pollson had submitted. Uh it's category Z which is final category and they're just
looking for final approval and they were asking for Mayor Brooks's signature and with that that has come in front of the board >> with no public commissioners. Do you have any questions or comments? >> Do you have a copy of the resolution?
No. No. Seems pretty straightforward >> resolution about the >> to me too. Any comments, commissioners? >> No comment, >> city clerk or do we have a >> I'm I'm not sure how to form the motion.
>> Yeah, thanks. that was not provided. >> I I move that we approve the uh cat Z uh proposal. >> Pay out. >> Pay out. >> Do we have a second?
>> I'll second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Tagarini? >> Yes. >> Commissioner McGee? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Gabay? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr? >> Yes. >> Mayor Brooks? >> Yes. >> Motion carry five to zero.
Next on the agenda is resolution 2025-03 MadiRaa Beach authorized signers on bank account city attorney. >> Okay. I have it as resolution 2025-10. Is that the correct resolution number? >> Yes,
>> that is what I see in the packet. >> Okay. So this is a resolution of the city of MadiRaa Beach, Florida designated authorized signers of banking documents for the city of MadiRaa Beach by repealing resolution 202203 and any other resolution in conflict
herewith and by providing for an effective date that was reading resolution 2025-10 by title only. The whole purpose of this resolution is to just take um Robin's name off of the bank documents and um and put um Chief
Phelps name on it. >> With no public comment, commissioners, do you have any questions or comments? >> That's pretty straightforward. >> Yes. >> I move we approve resolution 2025-10. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. City clerk, would you call the
role, please? >> Commissioner Taglerini, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabay, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGin, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carry five to zero. >> Next on the agenda is acting city manager pay. City manager.
>> All right, mayor and commissioners. Um, it was brought to my attention that we should probably figure out some type of a pay arrangement for doing the acting city manager role. And um, what I propose is I think is pretty fair. Just
the the new city manager's proposed salary minus my salary and whatever that difference is, split it or divide it by 12 and however many months I I'm sitting in this seat is what I get. and it came out to just just over $4,600. But I said
to the mayor, you know, $4,500 it would be fine with me. I'd be more than happy with that. >> But if you, you know, feel free to just have any discussion you'd like >> with no public. >> I I think Chief Belulka is being very
generous with his offer. In my opinion, I had calculated higher number. Uh if he's comfortable with that amount, I think that's more than fair. >> How this has happened before, I understand,
where we had the the the chief um step in for as acting city manager. And how was it how was it handled back then? I tried to find his uh he had he went under contract and he I I don't know if
he went into an interim status because I'm just I'm acting and I'm you filling a vacancy and until it's filled and he went into an interim status and he had a a contract and I was trying to find it because it's it had verbiage in there that if this didn't work out in the
interim basis that he could revert back to the to the firehouse and or his previous position fire chief, but I was not able to find that. And so I'm not sure how it it was handled in the past previously. I
>> Okay. So, right now you're you still have both titles, acting fire chief and acting city man. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I agree with uh Commissioner Taglerini. um
our acting city manager is being more than generous and uh I totally agree. >> I agree with the rest of the team. I'm just wondering, you know, once we get a city manager and you're back in your own position, how you would feel?
>> He's going to feel fabulous and they're going to love to have him back because they said his team said we could borrow him, but we couldn't keep him. >> We couldn't keep him. and I assured them that we would send him back in one solid whole well piece. >> We'll see.
>> No, I also want to take this opportunity to say again, I've said it before that if we're going to attract a quality candidate, we need to consider a a a uh marketing marketable uh salary for
Igree. That's all. Just because it's mentioned that we the salary well that salary we need we're going to have to take someone. So, we need to entice them. I just want to say that again. >> So, that being said, um at our workshop at our at at the end of the month, we're
going to workshop the position and the um I believe that the company that is going to do the search will be here. And so I think that that would be a perfect time for us to workshop what you're saying and maybe some other positions
within the city as well that are that we're trying to fill being the uh building official and see where we lie on that. But I totally agree with you commissioner. also for some food for thought um in preparation of that workshop just going down the beach.
Treasure Island city managers the range is 175,000 to 200. Um St. Pete Beach is 240,000 and Gulfport is 202,000 or 203 I can't remember one of the two. But there to be competitive we're going to have to
approach $200,000. We don't, in my opinion, we wouldn't want a a retread. No, no disrespect to anybody or, you know, somebody who's in between jobs. I feel like if we can entice somebody to leave their current position and make this look as attractive as as we can,
we're going to get the best candidate. >> I agree. >> I agree. >> Yes, I agree. >> So, do we have a motion? >> I move that we approve uh Chief Bel's recommendation >> of >> 4500. Thank you.
>> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Per what? Week, month, year, >> month. >> Month. >> Per month. >> Okay, we need to make sure we get that in the motion. >> Sorry, I thought that was understood. Sorry. >> Yeah, just >> do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role,
please? >> Commissioner Tagarini? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Gabay? >> Yes. >> Commissioner McGin? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr. >> Mayor Brooks? >> Yes. >> Five. Motion carried five to zero. >> Mayor, if I could also just I just want
to make sure that we have have a clear idea. This is going to be prrated back to the day that he took the position. This is not something moving forward from October 1st. Correct. Correct. An understanding. It's going to be prrated back to the date that he started as acting city manager. Right. Okay. I'm
seeing all heads nod. Yeah. Okay. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you for that clarification. Next on the agenda is D Civil Service Commission appointment. And I will hand this to the city clerk. >> Yes. Currently, there is one member term
expiring on October 30th, 2025. And that seat is held by Jerry Contrell. And he submitted an application for that to serve a new three-year term. And that will be expiring October 30th, 2028.
So the recommendation is to appoint Jerry Contrell to serve a new term on the Civil Service Commission. The term would be expiring on 10:30 28 with no one in you know public for comment. Do we have any comments
commissioners? >> Mayor uh Mr. Kenfrill has asked me to to speak on his behalf if it's okay. Uh he's uh as you know he's a teacher and he is attending the grad the military academy of graduation of one of his former students who invited him and it's
in Dallas. So he's he's rarely out of town but he happens to be out of town. He really wanted to be here. I just want to point out that he's been doing the job uh as chair for for quite a while now. He has a a degree in electronic engineering. He has a master's degree in environmental engineering. uh he's
worked with uh biomedical engineering in hospitals and he teaches physics uh and AP physics and honors physics for Florida virtual and I think he would be a wonderful candidate to continue doing the job and he's very willing to do it
>> with no public comment. >> I already said that. Do we have any other comments by the commission? >> I support Jerryo wholeheartedly. I think everyone I do too. So, do we have a motion? >> I'll make a motion that we um appoint uh
Jerry Contrell um to the Civil Service where Civil Service Commission. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City Clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Vice Mayor Kerr? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Taglerini? >> Yes. >> Commissioner McIn? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Gabay?
>> Yes. >> Mayor Brooks? >> Yes. >> Motion carry five to zero. Next on the agenda is agenda setting for October 22nd, our regular BOC workshop at 6 PM. Um, in addition to A through E, I wrote down um that we would add city manager
position description pay director discussion. We'll have RJ Meyers and whoever else comes. Is there anything else that the commission would like to see on our workshop? Mayor, I uh I I don't see the
noise uh discussion again. And I don't know, I thought Marcy was in here, but she I felt like she was going to present a rewarding or or this recommendation for ease of enforcement. And I' I'd also like to include uh Deputy Schneider on
discussion if possible. >> We definitely can add it. I thought that what we learned was that we couldn't change our noise ordinance because of Senate Bill. >> Well, >> um >> we can't we can't we can't be more restrictive, right?
>> But we can uh educate or and I'd like to get feedback from Deputy Schneider what would make it easier to enforce, what is unclear, >> and uh I felt like Marshy was going to provide something like that for us >> so we could have that on the
>> Yeah. Yep. >> And I'd also just like to make sure that for the uh recommendation of our amendment to the swim zone that we have Deputy Schneider and Deputy Seam here for that as well available for uh input.
>> Okay. >> Have we have we provided our wish list for the um upcoming legislative session? I believe that we decided that in our last meeting what would go um it was public works was going to take the
primary role. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I didn't >> we don't have to vote on that. It was just a discussion and then staff will present that and put it through. >> Okay. >> I mean if you want to talk about it at
the next meeting again we can. No, I just thought at at one point we were asked to basically do our homework and come back with a list. The next meeting after that was the a board meeting which it was not for that meeting. It was for the following workshop and then it was
never brought up. You know, I know I recall the discussion on the public works building, but that you know we we're just going after one item. That's >> nom. So in our last meeting there was a
because Megan Weeter was not able to be here, the city manager presented on her behalf the projects that she had and um I could pull it up and tell you.
>> Yeah, the resiliency the undergrounding. >> So what's there are Let me see if I can find it. with this >> date appropriation request. So the public works and fire department
training facility was one of the things to present and then the next several projects were road projects for drainage and improvement. >> Right? and it was presented or the way I took it as these are the
it was almost like a capital budget um wish list for the next several years and but it didn't really cover any of the wish list like the the resiliency the undergrounding in the residential areas.
And that those items I don't believe were discussed. If >> if that's not what the board wishes to, >> it's I mean we can add we could add it to the next workshop, but it has always been my understanding that
there they won't fund undergrounding in a residential neighborhood. >> That has been my understanding repeatedly when I've asked. >> But things have have, you know, have they changed? I guess that's my question and that was my conversation with R.J. you know back
then resiliency undergrounding was not an option. However, due to uh the storms and to the um federal government hand having more of a focus on resiliency in coastal communities or
in all communities that you know has that changed, you know, and that was that was one of the push backs that I had. Well, we're not even we're not going to ask that question because we know what the answer is. Well, if we're not going to push, these are these are
the things that we need. We need we need to talk about um a bed tax to fund our our public safety. You know, that was that was one of the things that was high on my list. I didn't
you know, I want to take the burden of public safety cost for 3 million people off the backs of 4,000. That's not That's not submitting. That's not an appropriation request, though. What you're talking about is not an appropriation request.
>> It's not appropriation, but it's legislative. >> It is legislative, but do you want to have legislative discussion because you're you're crossing over >> I know, but it's a wish list for our lobbyists to take to to Tallahassee is what I'm >> Okay. So, that's not what we
workshopped. What we workshopped was what appropriations we actually wanted to put forward to get the elected officials to fight for us, not what we wanted to have our lobbyists lobby for on our behalf. Those are two completely different things.
>> Yeah. And >> I know I know what you're saying, Vice Mayor Ker, but there it's two different lobbying for something and asking for specific >> during the legislative session. Don't they discuss these types of things as well? >> They do. >> Okay. Well, that's my point. We're
taking this list to Representative Cheney. >> No, this is what I'm telling you. The appropriations is specific dollars we're asking for. We have to go into a portal and ask for them. Having the conversation on what we want a lobbyist to lobby for is a separate conversation.
>> Well, then that's what I'm saying. >> That's the conversation we need to have. >> Okay. That's a conversation we can have, but you can't you can't coingle them because they're two different things. >> Okay. In my mind, we're all they're all going to the same place, >> but they're not >> they're all going to to our representatives. how they address them may be different
because I know, you know, they're having the discussion on the property taxes and how do we fund the cities and and but regardless of that, in my opinion, if this community was inland and we did not have tourists, we would not have the
expenses that we have with our police, our fire, and our EMS. They'd be a fraction with the same 4,000 residents. And that's, you know, that's just
my opinion. And >> I don't disagree with your opinion. I'm just saying it's two separate items. You're talking two separate things. If you want to talk to the lobbyist about what we want them to lobby for, that's one conversation because lobbying for something like that is different than
you're lobbying to get them to change policy, to change something. the appropriations that we're asking for is specific money, dollars for something. So, we're specifically saying, "Here's a project. It's going to take us five years." >> I get that. I know. >> It's just two separate things.
>> I understand. >> But they they all go to the same house, >> but it's two separate things. It go It doesn't actually go to the same house. It may be it may end up being Representative Cheney or it could be Representative Diggley. It's different different representatives that lobby for
different things. Those are the kinds of things that your lobbyist comes to this meeting and tells us who that person is. >> Tallahass are there specific appropriations committees though? >> Yes. >> So appropriations is going to go before those committees. >> That is correct.
>> Whereas legislation is to the the% and I understand that. But I'm just saying we we've never >> had the final discussion on whatever our priorities to take that Tallahassee. >> Well, let's let's have that decision. that discussion, but the the
appropriations specifically requests. We also I wanted to say we also asked discuss continuation of the Marina Seaw wall project and addition of public docks at ROC park. Those were things that were on the list. We we prioritize public works, but those are going to go to specific appropriations committees.
>> Correct. That is correct. >> I'm I'm all in favor of lobbying for changes in legislations. >> So, we can have lobby for whatever it is. We'll have a we can have a conversation at the workshop on lobbying for what to make that list that you're talking about.
>> Legislative action. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Okay. Anything else? >> Good. No, thank you. >> Then next on the agenda is reports and correspondence board of commissioners 2025 meeting schedule and city clerk,
I'll hand this over to you for 2025 and 2026. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And then the report um AB and C. >> Yes, ma'am. uh for the 2025 BOC meeting schedule.
I would like I'm I'm hoping that we can have the December workshop in regular meeting change from uh 2 to 4 to 4 to 6. I've missed my Panelis County City Clerks. >> I thought we voted to do that.
>> November we did. >> I thought we voted for December also. We could have, >> but we would like to do it for December. >> I actually only have it changed for December, not for November. >> Oh, I have it changed on November and December. >> Well, maybe I just missed it, but I I do
have it changed on my calendar for December >> to two and four on December 10th. >> November the 10th. Yeah, I I also have that. >> You have it at two and four >> in December. >> Oh, I had it at four and six. I was
asking if we can change December to four and six. >> Oh, go back to four. >> Yes. >> No, it was already two and four originally. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yes. And then so in no um at the last meeting, the November meetings were
changed to four and six. So I was hoping you would also change December to four and six. >> I had already changed it. I thought we had >> I have no issues with that. I went on ahead and changed it in here just in case for fingers crossed. Are you okay
with that? >> Sorry, I I'm I guess I made an error in my calendar. I changed it for December 10th, but to be honest, they're all those options are fine with me at this point. >> Yeah, they're deal they're on December
10th. I haven't written down here for four and six. Just keeping my fingers crossed that it would get changed to four and six from two from two and four to four and six. So, okay. So, that take care of that. And do we have any changes for 2026 so
far? And we visit this every month. >> I don't have any changes needed. >> Okay. >> Not yet. >> Commission any? >> I do not. Now for the BOC board of com for the board of commissioners 2025 meetings
report it's updated through the end of September and it's forformational purposes only. I had one change by um Commissioner Gavayi on a date there and so I'll fix that and unless anybody else
has anything not isformational purposes and then on mine um of course we have the municipal elections on March the 10th 2026 and we have the candidate qualifying
period that starts um Monday December the 1st 2025. at noon and it ends at noon on Friday, December the 12th, 2025. That's always the first two full weeks of December and it excludes the weekends.
And of course uh candidates have an opportunity to pre-file uh before then by filing the DSD9 the appointment of campaign treasur and designation of campaign depository with the city clerk and then within 10 days of that and can also do that on the same
day file the DSDE84 which is the statement of candidate and being it's already October any earlier than that you're on the quarterly financial reporting And so if you file now, it uh during
this quarter, that report is not due until January the 10th, but then it changes after the qualifying period, which is it's more often. And then you're also allowed to within 14 days of
the qu starting of the qualifying period to file other qualifying papers. The only thing you cannot but it does not get accepted those the DSD9 and the DSD84 will get accepted to where you can proclaim to be a um
candidate. But the documents that are turned in within the 14 days of qualifying period. I can't stamp those in until the when qualif until qualifying period starts. And the only thing you can't do um until qualifying
period starts, you pay your fees during that time once you get qualified, of course. And then, but once you pre-file, you're more than welcome to go out and start collecting your signatures. And there's just 25 signatures, so you can take your time, whatever, or give
you a time to knock on everybody's door if you'd like to do that. >> Great. >> Thank you. Welcome. >> D on the agenda is board of commissioners reports and correspondence. Do any of the commissioners have any comments that
you'd like to make or conversation? >> I just I'm I reached out to the mayor and city manager of managers of Treasure Island and St. Pete Beach because I just wanted to understand their swim zone situation. Uh I just wanted to let you
reach out to them. I haven't heard back yet. It's been, I guess, two days. So, uh, I will follow up on that and let you know. I just want to make sure that we're making, uh, informed decisions that are, uh, that are that support our
businesses, but also are being aware of public safety. >> I had shared with, um, Marcy the ordinance for St. Pete Beach for their swim zone. So, if you would like to email and ask her for that. Oh, ask Marcy.
>> Ask her to share share that with you. That might be something you you would find informational as well. >> Thank you. >> Great. >> Vice Mayor, any comments or anything? >> Nothing. >> Commissioners, any comments or anything? >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> And next on the agenda is the city
attorney. Mayor, commissioners, I just um wanted you to remind you or bring to your attention if you had not read the emails. Um the snack shack concessionire has threatened litigation against the
city. Um I received a third letter from the attorney uh recently where he makes that threat. I think I forwarded that letter on to you. I have responded to that letter by an email yesterday setting forth what my legal position is
on that. I don't really want to discuss the specifics of it tonight, but I wanted you to know that um for those of you haven't gotten to your emails yet on that uh that um I have not received a response to the email yet, but if you have specific questions about my
position or about our legal standing or anything like that, please call me independently. I'd be happy to talk to you about that. Um, because there is the threat of litigation, I would ask you to use extreme caution when you're talking to the concessionire either, uh, I don't
believe the attorney will contact you directly, um, because he knows that you're represented, but uh, but when talking to the concessionire as to what your personal position is on the matter, um, I would just refer them all to me
um, and I'll handle it from there. So anyhow, that's just a short update. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> city manager. >> I have no report. >> We had no um public comments at the
beginning of the meeting. So it is 7:28. We are adjourned. >> Thank you.