--------- Good afternoon and welcome to the board of commissioners regular workshop meeting. Today is Wednesday, December 10th, 2025. It is 400 pm. City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Mayor Brooks >> here. >> Vice Mayor Kerr >> here.
>> Commissioner Taglerini >> here. >> Commissioner McGin >> here. Commissioner Gavayi >> here. >> All are present. >> Before we um do public comment, I would like to ask the commission to add two items under the board of commissioners
for discussion. C being the parking garage and D chronic nuisance chapter 34 article 7. I'd like to add something as well very quickly. a quick discussion about uh
property that has become available and the and the public works building >> and that would be E. >> Okay. >> Um is everyone okay with that? >> Yeah, I'm fine with that. Can we also add a discussion on the um parking rates
in John's Pass over the holidays? >> Parking rates, >> lowering the parking the city parking or is that Is that available? >> I mean, I don't have I don't have an issue with that. >> Okay, good.
>> Okay, everyone's okay with that. >> All right. Public comment. Public participation is encouraged. If you are addressing the commission, step to the podium, and state your name and address for the record and the organization or group you represent. Please limit your
comments to five minutes and do not include any topic on the agenda. Public comment on agenda items will be allowed when they come up. If you would like someone at the city to follow up on a comment or question made at the meeting, you may fill out a comment card with the
contact information and give it to the city manager. Comment cards are available at the back table in the commission chambers. Completing a comment card is not mandatory. Do we have any public comment? Hi, I'm Bob Bellow 13301
uh Golf Lane Beach. Um I would like to suggest that the city looks at options to encourage lifting and rebuilding elevated as opposed to repairing properties on the ground. This could be done by relaxing the code primarily regarding nonconformities and setbacks. Make it easier to encourage people to
lift, rebuild their houses so they don't have to struggle with giving up things like covered walkways, existing decks, stairs, and the like that are not considered a part of the structure footprint. As FEMA considers those things as a part of the 50% rule, it's
kind of weird to see that it doesn't also apply to our redevelopment code. Um, I know there's been some work done with the recent amendment, but I believe there's still some more work that could be afforded to the residents. This may not be the best analogy, but when the government's looking for you and want
you to do something, they make it easier for you to do things like offering tax credits and such. Not that I'm advocating for direct financial assistance from the city. But by making the decision for people to lift, rebuild easier, it helps push people in that direction versus them having to grapple
with do they want to give up a portion of their existing structures, walkways, stairs, decks, etc. Um, due to how the current how the code is currently written. As staff as reported by the staff, half the community has not done anything yet. There's still a great
opportunity here. The number one goal should be to use this event as a catalyst to get as many houses off the ground as possible. So when this happens again, and it more than likely will happen again, it will be more of a non-event. The more incentive you give people to lift and rebuild versus a standard repair on the ground is better
in my opinion by so giving people more time to vet out their options. It helps it helps them and the community. What I'm advocating for is maybe something along the same concept applies applying to residential rebuilds as you do for like a plan development agreement. In a plan development agreement, the city
approves things that would normally not be approved in a variance as it is to the benefit of the city and the community. You have this process for developers but not for residents. Well, I would offer up that getting as many houses lifted up as possible, relaxing some of the constraints, preventing some
of the homeowners is in to the benefit of the city and the community. I think a good illustration of the benefit that this would be to provide to the city is to ask each commissioner two questions if it's not too intrusive. One, was your residents elevated or on the ground?
Two, were the damages you suffered more along the lines of an inconvenience or was it a major lifealtering event such as you've been displaced for a long period of time? I would imagine those that were impacted much less were those that were on the ground were were those that were elevated than on the
ground, which is why I would say that it would be beneficial to for the city to use this event in any ways they can to incentivize as many people as possible to either lift or re elevating. Thank you. >> Thank you. Do we have any additional
public comment? >> Hello, commission. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. Captain Dylan Hubard from Hubard's Marina. Uh, one of the items I wanted to talk about was the parking garage. So, I will strike that for my comment. Uh, but I did want to come up today and speak about the jetty
situation. And I know uh you guys are going to be talking about the outcome of those uh those public meetings. And one thing that I think I I feel should be emphasized to you all is the importance the tourism importance and the impact to visitors and locals alike of that jetty.
That jetty walkway is something that is special that's a part of Madira Beach's history and is super important to our community. And uh I know uh at those public meetings, the first one had a strong sentiment for doing something to replace the jetty and that's because I was able to attend that one. The second
one wasn't as strong of a sentiment because there was no real strong opinions there. But then when asked like, hey, it's going to cost this much and it's going to have to have sidewalk or railings around it. Uh then the sentiment was like, yeah, might as well leave it how it is. So I feel like yes,
there was an overall sentiment. And the first one, hey, rebuild it. The second one was kind of like, ah, we're okay with leaving it how it is. But if you put it into context of the conversation, the second one didn't have a strong opinion. And when encouraged, like, hey, it's going to have to have railings and it's going to cost this much money, then
they were kind of like, yeah, okay, leave it how it is. But I feel very strongly that overall community opinion would support restructuring, rebuilding that jetty uh with the walkway. It is huge for tourists. It is huge for
locals. It is huge for handicap accessible fishing and our fishery, our our region, our city is known for fishing. We're a fishing community, right? That's the where our roots came from. Uh so I think we really really need to take a hard look at
reestablishing that jetty walkway to the best of our ability, whatever that might look like. Uh, also I wanted to thank you all for the opportunity uh that you afforded us at the last commission meeting uh by uh allowing staff to have that uh meeting and follow-up meeting
with us about the John's Pass Committee. Uh we had a really good meeting and I look forward to uh what's to come. And I appreciate the commissioners and the mayor uh that were able to attend our last meeting in John's Pass and uh very happy to uh see the momentum and the uh
forward momentum we have uh establishing that John's Pass committee. And then also while I'm thanking you all, I wanted to add uh the dredge situation. Uh just met with Bay News9. They're doing a story about the positive step forward and and how we're nearing the
finish line on this very long project. And uh I want to thank you all uh for your help and then also for putting someone like Megan involved uh and in charge. I feel like we're in really good hands and really making some quick progress uh compared to where we were
just a year ago. So thank you. >> Thank you. Do we have any additional public comment? >> With no additional public comment, we will move. >> There's one more. Hello to anyone. So this is Adrien Turko. I'm I'm from
Romania and we are like a coffee shop developer. So I we are just waiting for everything. I mean from the public project that I know that you have right here. So I'm
waiting for everything. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. May may I elaborate on that just a little bit? >> Sure. >> Thank you so much, >> Adrian. They're they're a wonderful company out of Romania and they are
they're extremely good in coffee and coffee shops and little restaurants, things in that nature. So, we're doing some projects for them and I was so impressed with their work and their ability. So I asked him to come here and make a quick presentation to this board
for any possibility that in the future if we ever decide to put a coffee shop on the U project we just bought if you know and whenever that may be these folks will be extremely interested. >> Thank you so much Mr.
>> Thank you. Next on the agenda is board of commissioners results of the outcome of the two town hall meetings regarding the newly acquired property. City Manager, >> Mayor and Commission, what you have is
or in the agenda packet is the result or are the results from the first town hall on that Saturday, the second town hall that Wednesday evening, and then um the opinions from the Dairy Deck Dary Shack
conversations with the mayor. Uh there's plenty of suggestions for everybody to sift through. So with that, I'll turn it over to the board. >> Do we have any public comment? Commissioners,
u I was impressed at the creativity of our residents and the optimism and enthusiasm with which they shared their ideas. If if you go down to page nine in the uh in your packet, it has it broken down into categories such as
beautifification, buildings, events, marina, miscellaneous, park, parking, and parks and shopping district. So you you can kind of see how the everything's categorized like uh in the park green
space received seven suggestions um and marina docks received seven suggestions I believe that was those two were the most for anything but everybody kind of had the same goals you know whether it was awarded the same or not they wanted something nice something
pretty something beautiful something for the Thank you, Chief, for summarizing that as um very helpful. Um as in anything we do, we're not going to make everyone happy, but we can do um try to try to make as many people happy
and and and proud of what we designed. Um what I guess My question is more more of a question is what are the next steps and how do we get there? I think um we need to get Kimley Horn involved in the
in the design once we have an idea the what we agree that are the most impactful for the uh for the residents for the city for the for the um uh the
well just for that just for for the city and um it's it how it looks to um tourism and how it's used and useful for both residents and for tourists. Um, so what we could do is if everybody wanted
to kind of weigh in, send me an email, Marcy and and Megan as well, and once we have an idea of what what we want, then we could go to kind of like a design, have a few different companies come out,
engineering firms, and present their idea of what they think it would look like with everything that we all have agreed upon. Something along those lines. Correct me if I'm wrong, Marcy. I think that was okay. >> No, I I think you're correct. And I think there's some things that'll come out of uh the strategic planning that we
discuss to start looking at everything holistically, all the property that the city owns and how we build out each of those. But definitely then reaching out to firms and uh letting them compete and come up with some pretty nice conceptual ideas and take it from there.
>> Uh this was well put together. Um the uh meetings also were was very positive in the community and I want to thank all the uh residents for coming out supporting their ideas. Um
one of the questions I get normally is uh as far as revenue generating ideas uh with the uh the boat slips, how many can we actually put over there, you know? Um, some
people would, you know, want to know exactly, uh, if we did the boat slips over there, which is a great idea. How many can we fit over there? I >> think it's dependent on what we do. When we purchased the property, the previous owner provided us with all of their
drawings and conceptual drawings that they had done. Um, there was a plan develop or is a plan development approved on that property that included boat slips. So, we could look at that and count the number. However, the city might choose to do something different than what they had laid out. There's
been some discussion on having charter boats and having a finger go out that the charter boats would be on. I think we need more um understanding of what not just what I mean what the community had their input has been and to take
that and put it into something for the commission to look at. Um I don't know that I think two meetings was enough. I had one meeting uh conversations with the mayor that was packed from the Dakshack and we did not discuss anything
other than the property purchase and so I believe that we probably should have another meeting. I don't think that two official meetings that are recorded for reviewing and then one um conversations
meeting is enough for the community. So, I would recommend that we do one or two more meetings and those meetings might could be when staff runs them uh focus more on what the consensus is that we've received so
far and what the residents see that on the on a broader picture would be my thoughts and recommendation. >> Mayor, I totally agree with you. I don't think we should hurry up and get to the finish line. This should be a um a
project where we should take our time and be sure that we don't make any mistakes. I also would like to somehow have a like a 10, 15, 20 year master plan for the future
of all the properties together. if we can come up with some sort of a master plan to include the um the oatyard area as well as other properties that we have just as an
overall picture and then phase it phase one phase two phase three so we'll have a general overall picture of what the entrance to the city would look like that would also incorporate some major
beautifification to Tom Stewart Causeway. Uh I I I envision as you drive into Madura Beach. Um you see beautifification, you see activities,
uh waterworks, uh businesses. U so um I I'm I'm in agreement with our mayor to to have a few more meetings. maybe not one, two or three or whatever it takes to feel comfortable with what we would
like to do in the long run. >> So ideally we want to have an idea um we will want to look for funding for the property externally. So if we spend the
next 6, eight months coming up with taking our time, doing our due diligence with the community, understanding what the community wants, what that looks like, then we will be able to have the opportunity to look for the funding to pay for it. >> Yes.
>> And what phases that would be in, whether you start with the boat slips, which are revenue generating, how you whatever that looks like. Um, but I do I think that more community input's needed >> before we make any decisions.
>> Has anyone um spoken with Visit St. Pete Clearwater to get any input from from them as far as um what they consider is needed in Penllis County? Any suggestions? Um they they did ask to
be part of any discussion. >> Not specific. city staff has not we what we have done is we've reached out to grant works and uh our lobbyist to explore the purchase is done he's kind of stated
that there's no real grants for reimbursement but we can look at grants to develop it design it and what have you >> right >> so we have done done that part of it I guess >> no I I agree with everything been
brought up. Um I think it some point um we need to kind of come up with some different ideas of which way we're leaning to go and have those public meetings after that and get input. either it's they the public likes it or
they there's there's a lot of push back one way or the other. but continue the discussion and continue to getting some some ideas, but kind of start to narrow funnel it funnel it down into a couple of different ideas and see what
>> it may not also be a bad idea to to ask some developers to just come up with some sort of ideas um to share, you know, what sort of business they're in, any restaurant owners that would like to move in here
so we can collect collect some possible future tenants. It doesn't mean we have to commit ourselves to anyone, but at least collect some really high-profile business ownerships. So, when the time comes, it would be
easier to decide actually what we would want to be building out there. >> So, that in my opinion is kind of putting the cart before the horse. We've had two official meetings. Now we have a list of
what people said. Take that list back to the public and have another conversation with the public. This is what we got where the public can see and then your discussion comes from there. When we get to the point of if if ao I
mean if a um restaurant's going to be built that's that's not going to be I don't think that's what we're thinking about right now. I think right now it's about making sure the community is heard and that whatever direction the commission is taking that we're taking the direction
that represents the community, not ourselves. >> Absolutely. >> I I No, I I agree with you, mayor. I'm I'm just saying that if we have teens that would be willing or excited to to
move to our city. It just having some items on the table to share with our residents to say listen we have all these folks and we can pick and choose. We don't have to commit ourselves to any any team. we can, you know, we can bring
those. Um um >> so one of the things I recall in the meetings was that um the community was um the the individuals who stood up and spoke about a restaurant. It varied. So I think I would like to hear a little
bit deeper of what kind of restaurant people see there. Do they see a snack shack or a Salt Rock Grill? Do they see Islandway Grill? What is it? What does the community That's what I'm talking about. Before we start looking, let's dig a little more and see have another
meeting or two to see where the community based off of the feedback we already have. Let's expand on your thoughts. These this is what came. So, let's expand on those and and find a deeper understanding of what the community wants. Because
when you look at this, there are quite a number of things that I mean there was one comment. Uh would there have been 10 people commented on that if they had been at the same meeting together? >> In response to that, I would be hesitant
to lead on a developer for a specific business before we know what specific businesses are we're looking for. I'm not I'm not opposed to it. I I I feel like it's too I feel like it's too soon. I'm still we're looking at the big picture. Let's find out what do we want there and then we'll say okay this is
we're looking for this type of business now. You guys can give us your ideas and we'll check select from you. But I feel like doing it this soon may lead them on even not even if it's not uh specifically I mean or or legally it
would still give the impression that we're and leading them on when we're not we're not there yet. That's just my opinion about that. >> I mean, I think we should have a couple more meetings. >> Two more meetings. >> At least two more meetings to >> Yes.
>> Um staff will love that. Um, and so Marcy, if if we did a a meeting and chief, um, when we do the next meeting, would it be possible to drive that meeting um, based off of the
feedback we've already received instead of just having the open free-for-all, which I love, and and obviously we would still get um, you know, a total whatever the community wanted to input, but to kind of gear it more more focused on what we've already received in comments.
ments so that we could, you know, drive down. >> Yeah, we can definitely do that. And I was going to suggest the same thing that that you did is let's figure out what what we all agree on. Let's not bring them the entire list, condense it down a
little bit. Then they can choose from those as those items on that list. if there's any new ideas that they could add them. >> So, I mean, I think that staff could could narrow this down because I think that there are several um you know,
things that go together. If you look at beautifification, something beautiful complement what we have at John's Pass, fountain, trees, um landscape architecture, that's really all one idea, >> right? Um, and then to be able to, you
know, beautifification, uh, is that is it a sign? Is, you know what I'm, you know what I'm saying? The planting, what is that? And get the public to kind of give that kind of input. >> Yeah. Like like you said, is it a snack shack or is it a Salt Rock Grill? >> I can tell you that I do not want to sit
here on this commission and make the decision for what we build there. I obviously ha I know what is said that I like and I felt like the community was very very in line with my own thoughts but I feel very strongly that we are not
making the decision we need the community to drive it. So if we can combine these things and make the list maybe shorter and then get the community to give the input and by list shorter I mean um
you know taking the the comments that are basically the same and and joining them together and then let that drive the meeting and then we can go from there so that when we're voting on something we're voting because the community said this is what I want. And I think some of the things we could
do to be helpful too is one of their next meetings is going to be um taking it out of the PD and putting it back to its original to to the zoning. With that we can say okay you know we have four plus acre site of that let's just say for the discussion you know two acres
can be covered with a a structure. We show what that twoacre looks like and then we can play with it and say, "Okay, do we want it closer to the seaw wall, further from the seaw wall with a walkway and maybe start kind of honing it in and giving people a visual of how that site starts to come together with with all those parts and kind of play
with it like a puzzle. Then once you kind of figure that out, then you can start backing into where the buildings are and how you start kind of building out all those different functions. But I think start visualizing what it looks like to put a building on that lot, to put a walkway, a path, and those kinds of things. But we can do that at a staff
level without having to go out and pay and spend. >> Exactly. >> Right. Okay. I like that idea. I like keeping it more in house to start um instead of spending money. We've made it a habit over the last many years to spend a lot of money on things and then
do nothing with it. So I think if we could get some conceptual things going and really have a lot of community input and then once we have a good plan then take it out to the professionals. So I think that's a great idea Marcy. So then we could schedule a couple of
you could schedule a couple of town halls. Any additional input? >> No. >> Next on the agenda is the med I'm sorry. >> Sorry. Sorry. You want to go over the the jetty part? >> Oh,
>> but the the again the >> it's it's Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. So, I have them all Sorry about that. >> Right here. And the the summary, I guess, was uh fishing access, sunset viewing, food trucks or small vendors, public art, a designated sunset point
experience, similar to Mallalerie Square. Um again, fishing access must be maintained. Some advocated for restoring the walkway with improvements. Others supported leaving it in its current condition until funding and plans are defined. Interest in exploring grants, state
appropriations. So th those are all the um suggestions from those two town halls. >> Do we have any public comment? >> Sure. I'll take the opportunity. Uh Captain Dylan Hover from Hoverards
Marina. Uh I think uh just one thing I wanted to add in while the conversation was going on there. I'm I'm the chair of the outreach and education technical committee for the Gulf of Mexico uh fishery management council and one of the things that we grapple with is public input and I think that's kind of
what I feel like we're grappling with here and one thing that is super valuable and super helpful to us is uh we put out Google forms to captains so our our federal for hire fleet uh the email database is there in your case with residents it's a little bit more uh
challenging I'm sure but there's ways that the residents could potentially a link to a Google form, right? And the Google form could be very simply what has already been put together by staff and that gives residents the opportunity to give you input without having to attend a town
hall meeting. Uh so I think if you do that in conjunction with a town hall meeting, you're enabling uh a lot of public input very easily. Uh because people are a lot quicker to respond to a email or a QR code left on their door handle of here, give your input at this
link. and uh fill out a quick Google form. Uh and I think you'd get a lot more feedback from residents that way and and you could target residents that way by by targeting the residents. Uh as far as the jetty is concerned, I think really all the points there are uh really good ideas, but I mean you had a
walkway. That walkway was fully utilized by fishing and then also it was heavily utilized by tourists. Uh people walk down John's Pass boardwalk. That boardwalk ends, they continue underneath the bridge and out to that jetty. We see it a lot at sunset. If you walked out
there at sunset, you could hardly walk down that sidewalk. It's packed with people. And also, we got to remember the wheelchair access. That was the one wheelchair accessible fishing point uh in our region really. Um I mean now the Skyway Fishing Pier, they're talking
about tearing it down because it's falling apart and getting dilapitated. That South Skyway Pier. So, these jetties, in my opinion, are supremely important and uh I think we're really doing a disservice if we don't reestablish that jetty walkway. Um, so
personally, I would love to see that conversation continue and I think there's a lot of funding opportunities. I think we could continue to explore that and I'd be happy to help in any way I can. There's uh a lot of funding through the state uh with boat ramp
access and fishing point accesses. There's multiple different nonprofits that FWC has. Um there's different arms of the federal government that have a bunch of funding for fishing access points as well. So, if you leaned into
that and really uh u pushed that side of it, I think there's ways that we could get funding and potentially uh remove that uh railing requirement or at least maybe lower it a little bit. Um because I feel like a lot of that
fishing access will help um maybe alleviate some of that conversation potentially. So, I would love to continue the conversation and uh connect uh the the grant opportunities there because I think there's some funding resources that could be explored. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Do we have any additional public comment commission >> funding funding resources is the key point. So maybe we can talk to Captain Hubard and um connect those opportun
with him for those opportunities because obviously we've got to have the funds to do this. So if we can come up with the funds, I'm okay with it. >> Mure.
I also agree uh looking at how we can fund the project. I think um the jetty is a um very important part of our city and tourism. Everyone loves John's pass
in the jetty and also u getting back to making it ADA compliant. Um we're going to have to definitely have to do that. Um, the commissioners make great points. Um, I do have some concerns about the
railings with the handicap being able to fish from there. Um I don't know if that's you know it's kind of >> difficult task I would think you know given given all the rocks and the
distance between where that that would be um an actual sidewalk from where you'd have to cast to to be able to fish effectively. Um, one of the things in my mind, do you make it wider
and a little further from the from the rocks a few feet further um north? Um, more for accessibility to actually view and enjoy the water and the sunset. Um, and not so much for the actual fishing
because the the fishermen that are not handicapped. I I would imagine they're they're going to go out on the rocks anyway because I mean I' I've been down there a few times. Um, and it's as popular a fishing
spot as it's ever been as far as I'm my experience. Uh, without the um sidewalk. So, there's a lot to consider. You start putting railings on there and then you put that same exact sidewalk we had, that gets pretty restrictive. Um,
so that's just some thoughts. But again, back to the grant funding, we'd have to come up with an idea, design, and and a and a cost >> and start searching either through grant >> we need close to half a million dollars. >> Megan's going to come up and um give us
some input. Hello everyone. So I want to with the handrails that is a requirement by Army Corps and that's what they refer to on the call. So when we originally talked about putting the sidewalk back in its original condition, that is all the
preapp meetings that we've already had. So, if we're talking about changing the footprint of what that sidewalk is going to be, we're completely changing the original scope of where we had originally anticipated on going. But
when we had that meeting with 408, it has to be ADA accessible. And being ADA accessible means to have the handrails. Just because it has handrails doesn't mean that it's all one layer. If anyone has visited the fishing pier over here at Rock Park and also the two fishing
peers that we have over at Patriot Park, both of those have ADA handrails. So, those are accessible. And yes, people do fish from the rocks, but they unfortunately when we put the sidewalk back, if we do, if that's the choice, it will have to have handrails. There's not
any really way about that because the sand comes and goes there. So if there's any sort of a drop off over I don't remember what that that requirement is, it has to have a handrail. >> Having attended both meetings, uh, everyone's already made all the points,
but I will say that there was a drastic uh, difference in opinion from one meeting to the next, and I think Captain Hubard illustrated that he was at one and he wasn't at the other. So that that I'm sure led the way. That said, I think as we are deciding with the new property, I think this discussion needs
to continue as as well so that we get uh representative ideas along with uh along with the new property because I mean I personally I I have seen a lot of people a lot of activity there. On the other hand, I love the idea of a sunset spot.
I mean I I don't have super strong opinions about either one. I I want for our residents to have some input in this uh and more than just a couple. So I guess I would say let's let's continue the discussion.
>> I agree. Megan, do you have any um if so I have two questions, but the first one's going to be do you have any cost estimate to put it back the way it was with handrails? >> Currently right now the issue that we're having is trying to get a cost
associated with the permitting. So, as we all know because we've gone through the permitting with Army Corps and D, um we don't know the length of time. So, we need to definitively know what we're going to do first so that we can get a cost from our engineer for the design
and the permitting cost, which could be anywhere from $50,000 to $150,000. So, while we've had the preapp meetings with everyone, including Penllis County, and everyone except for the 408 section said that they're the only that wants to
review it. What we found is that if we give them the design plans, they're going to want to fully review it and that could add an additional year to the process. So, that's kind of one of those things where we need a clear direction on which way we're moving and we're
hoping that it's to put it back the same way that it was because that's what we've already talked about. So, um, until I have a clear, I haven't gone out for any type of construction costs yet because we were trying to think of something that was a little bit more flexible than concrete because it moves,
which is why we had the lawsuit from the trip and fall in the first place. >> Um, in the discussion with the community, there's been discussion about making something similar to Mallalerie Square, making the sidewalk wider, um,
where it would come over into the sand. Can you speak to the pros and cons of any of that? >> So, when we talk about changing the original, we talk about possibly moving around or adding more structure to it if we're going to widen it.
>> So, then we're completely changing um the aesthetics of the jetty, which is a federal asset. So, that it requires more permitting from D, from Army Corps, from section 408, and from Penllis County. Um, so I would highly advise that if we
want to put that back, we stick with the same way that it was, which was, I believe, 8 feet wide in the first place. And then we add those handrails to it, which will be ADA accessible. Um, there's those handrails that you see everywhere on any new fishing pier are
all ADA accessible. So it it is it is easy for someone who is in a wheelchair or, you know, is not able to fully stand up and fish, they can do so. >> Okay. is is the point of the of the
concrete ADA um jetty is it is the point more for the a for the handicap to be able to fish or is it is it more for the fisherman just without any handicap or is it more just for enjoying
I mean as far as tourism bringing in more tourism to go out and watch the sunset, enjoy the water, to be able to walk out. I mean, is there a general feel of the use of it? >> I think it's combined all of those
items. I think it's not just per fisherman, but it's also for someone who is in a wheelchair. Although we have the Moby Mat out there, it doesn't go out as far as the sidewalk went out. So, the sidewalk went all the way out to the end. So, I think it's I don't think it's
just to one group. Um, that's kind of the feeling that we've gotten >> just in my my mind if if you and not I'm not making any recommendation at this point. I'm just trying to figure it out
in my head. Um, you know, if we can get the funding and and go ahead and put the concrete down, is it going to be used more or or not by tourism and by um fishermen without a
handicap or is it just going to be used the same amount? Are they they still still walk out there? That's >> I mean if you were to go down there today and look at all the fishermen who are on the rocks and the people who are utilizing the Moby Mat I think it's kind of hard to determine whether they're tourists or they're fishermen or they're
>> I'm yeah >> I think it's kind of hard to measure. >> It's a lot of it's a lot of work. So it'll be an you know an an expense. I'm just trying to justify in my mind how I would vote on that. So just trying to >> I believe we can get grants for the construction of it as long as we do gear
it towards the fishing community because there are a lot of grants available for that. >> Um Dylan just pointed out one and I don't remember the name of it. Sorry. And I know Noah comes out with a fisheries um grant every year. There is certain criteria that you have to meet
to do so which obviously we it we we could meet that. >> Okay. While we're on on the discussion, I just I brought up or I didn't bring it up. Somebody in in our meetings when we were talking about all this extending
the jetty and I spoke with Captain Dylan Hubard about that. He he was a he had a ton of information about studies that have already been done and um I don't want that to drop without a discussion.
So, I don't know that now's the time. But I'd really like to know more about that. >> I think we need to bring in the proper people for that discussion because that is not a city asset. That is a federal asset that is maintained by the county. >> Um, so we would need to make sure that we have all the information and all the
people, >> right? I would agree. But we make a decision whether we want to pursue federal. Before we get too far down that that path, I'll I'll send the board the uh inlet management plan and >> extending the jetty was was alternative
six. And it didn't really say it would be helpful. No, I'm just saying no offense. Not trying to go any against you or whatnot, but it's that's just what it actually says. >> It wouldn't it wouldn't collect the sand from the reourishment north of us. We're
collecting the sand on our beach from the reourishment north of us right now. >> But are we are we collecting it in the past? That's my question. >> I'm I'm sure that a portion of it is being collected inside the pass, but we're also collecting it on our beach. So, there's a lot of moving information
for that. So, I would like to, if we're going to have that conversation, have all the right people in the room. >> I'd love I'd love that. Yeah, I'll send I'll send out the the um inlet management plan and you commission can read it and you can go from there. >> Okay. >> And I think there's also in addition to
that one, there was one that the city, >> the county, and I believe hover was that in 2020? >> In 2020, we paid for a separate study which also included talking about that as well. So, I'm not sure if that's I don't think that's that. >> No, this was Dr. Wayne from USF.
>> Yeah. make sure you have both of them and then to read over it and then get in contact with all parties to see when we can bring them in. >> That'd be wonderful. >> But even if we put in this sidewalk because it is a top of a federal asset,
if Army Corps chooses to come in and do work on their federal asset, they will remove our sidewalk and they will not put it back. So that's already been talked about as well. and they don't have any direct plans within the next five years, but they couldn't give us any further than that.
>> Okay, thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you, Megan. >> Thank you. >> Any additional comments? >> Then next on the agenda is parking garage. So, I spoke with Chief today
about this. Um, and I wanted it on our agenda because there was a commission that raised parking and that raise of parking went into a fund and the purpose of that fund was to build a parking garage down in John's
Pass. The original location was slated to be the parking lot at it's 131st, >> I believe. So, >> um, and we were, since I've been on this commission, we were told we couldn't build there because there's utilities
that run through it and a beach access. What I would like us as a commission to do is start the conversation on building that parking garage and where we're going to build it. getting the hard information on that lot of what
utilities are there, what would that cost, can it be moved, what would it be, or do we want to look at building a parking garage down on the um south lot, which is where the restrooms are and the jetty is.
We own those two lots. Um, I've had a lot of conversation with business owners in John's Pass and they struggle with parking. They struggle with the private lots that are there
that charge a enormous amount of money and it's it they they it changes. It's dynamic pricing. Um, and I think that this is another one of those things that's just kind of been kicked down the road over and over and over. The money
is there to start the parking garage. The ROI on the garage is going to pay for itself. So, we obviously will, or most most likely, I won't say obviously, most likely will have to take out a loan to build the
parking garage. We don't have all of the money to build it, but we do have a substantial amount of money to get it started and to do something that will benefit the community as a whole. Um, and so I wanted that to start today because we have not talked about it in
quite some time and I think that it's something that's heavy on the minds of the business owners and of the residents who go down to the pass. So we should as a commission make that a priority for discussion and what our next steps would be.
Do we have any public comment? >> Uh yes, I would love to speak on that. Captain Dylan Hoverard from Hovers Marina. Uh if you look at any of the John's Pass Village uh Google business pages and uh I have the blessing uh of uh operating a few of them. It is
overwhelming. 99% of comments and reviews are negative and they are all relating to parking. Uh city parking is in my opinion uh pretty nominal. I mean $4 an hour in a high volume tourist destination on the beach, it's
understandable in my opinion. The the blight of John's Pass are those private lots, specifically that dirt lot in the back. It does have dynamic pricing. They're very very strategic. They put out signage that directs people in there. People show up there, they don't
realize that it's a private lot. They don't realize the predatory pricing structure that they have. And they pay extra people to go out and flag cars into that lot. And countless times a day, you can watch cars pull in there. People get out, they walk to the pay
machine, and they see 35, 45, 50, $75 to park. And they immediately get back in their car, leave, and leave negative reviews and tell all their friends about how John's Pass Village sucks. Don't go there. and it is killing John's past, crippling business, and it is harmful to
our city and our future. And we really need to do something about getting uh some clear signage like, hey, these are the city spaces. These are cheaper. This is cheaper options. The parking garage at John's Pass, in my opinion, does a much better job at trying to uh match
city pricing. uh it's a little bit more than city parking but not by much. But their surface level area, they do try to make a premium in those surface level spots as well. But again, it's not as bad as the dynamic pricing and just straight up price gouging that happens
in that dirt lot in the back. Uh so I think there's some bad players that are giving John's Pass a bad name. And I feel strongly that John's Pass Village business owners are very adamantly in support of moving forward with this
John's Pass parking garage. A little bit of history. John's Pass Village Association back when it was still a thing had a meeting and the city came to that meeting and proposed to us raising parking for the city from 350 to $4. And
the promise, the earmark, the guarantee was that that 50 cents increase was going to go to a fund to fund a parking garage specifically for John's Pass. It was brought up at the last meeting that it is not earmarked specifically for a
parking garage in John's Pass. It's only earmarked for a parking garage. And that was severely detrimental to hear because in my opinion and and the opinion of all John's Pass business owners is that fund is specifically for a John's Pass parking garage which we desperately
need. And we've been through different iterations and I feel strongly that our previous city manager dropped the ball. I mean, we were pretty close to getting a development done and a parking garage built in that triangle area. Uh but unfortunately due to lack of follow-up
and communication, city meetings happened and there wasn't the support there because no one knew about that meeting and no one was made aware. And uh I think we are now at a place where that specific area is going to be hard to redevelop because if the ball hadn't
been dropped, if the communication was there, the biggest holdup to that triangle development was the BFW. They didn't want to close and understandably they don't want to shut their doors during construction. Well, they got knocked out by Helen. So, behind Haleem, we could have easily built that parking garage and then had a brand new VFW and
they would have been on board for that. But unfortunately, that didn't happen. Now, they're in the process of rebuilding and they're spending money. So, I guarantee they're not going to want to knock down their brand newly rebuilt VFW. Right. We've had the 133rd lot that was in discussions. A
feasibility study was done and to my understanding that lot is not feasible. you have a beautiful piece of property that the city already owns and there's plenty of opportunity there to build a parking garage and I uh have talked to other people uh that are smarter than me
and I think there's really smart ways that you could go about building a parking garage there. Multi-story as tall as you can get it. You can make that uh area right turn only. So you have to approach from the north. You have to take a right into there. You have to park in that parking garage and then exiting people are like, "Well,
we're going to have to send everybody to Treasure Island." No, you don't. Don't let them pull out there. Send them underneath the bridge. Underneath the bridge, cops use that that parking or use that as a driveway all the time. And uh big huge cop SUVs fit under there.
There's plenty of overhead room. And currently uh the the regional the district guy for FDOT, Justin is a really really good dude and I think he'd be willing to have a conversation and I think you have an opportunity to build that walkway or driveway into John's Pass and let cars exit that way. So, I
think there's plenty of opportunities and there's a lot of positive benefit that could happen from moving forward with parking garage development. >> Thank you. >> Do we have any Thank you very much. Do we have any additional public comment? >> Hi, Bob Bellow 13301 Golf Lane. Just one
thing kind of piggybacking off what Dylan said. Um, in regards to, you know, parking garage and the backlash from, you know, tourists and what have you. I think something the city could do better is having signage, you know, going from
150th down to John's Pass stating what the rates are for city spots. Um, so this way they're aware of what is a reasonable rate to pay being, you know, four bucks an hour and they're not surprised to, you know, pay 40 bucks and
I think that's something pretty simple that the city could do to, you know, clean up our image of it. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any additional public comment? So I would like to start with um because both uh individual they both
spoke on the signage and I shared with chief today one of the biggest conversations that I've had is about our signage for parking and how it doesn't work for most people. And if you've never if if you've
if you don't really pay attention to it you don't notice it because I don't I don't pay to park because I live here so it doesn't pertain to me and we're usually on our bicycle anyhow. So, if you go down to John's Pass and you look at the parking signs that we have, the
logo on the top of the sign is about this big. It's about that big. So, when you look at the parking sign, there's really nothing that jumps out and says this is city parking. And what I had asked and I shared with
um Chief is I took a picture of our signs. there's two of them and put it into chat GPT and asked chat GPT if it would give me a better looking sign that would give better information and identify the city and it is amazing what
chat GPT will do. So it comes back with this sign that right across the top says city of Madiraa Beach parking. It is clear that it is city parking and I I think it would be beneficial for the city, especially based off of the
comments because I see the comments on social media where people they they come and they park. I mean, there's some people that don't want to pay $4 an hour, but the mo the majority of the comments are coming off of the private lots. And I can see when I go down and
look at the private lot parking signage and look at our city signage how someone would not recognize that they're different. They're not very different in how they look. So, um I'm I am encouraging of our city staff to take a
look at our signage and see if we couldn't do a better job at identifying our spots. And I agree with um Bob, you know, making it more known what our fees are. There's a
million parking signs in this city and they mean nothing because they don't say anything that really tells you. It's just it's just too much. And that's my opinion. So, I' I'd love to see the city staff come back with something um that
would be moreformational and would be would set us apart from those private lots. And and previously, I had brought up, couldn't we pass an ordinance that would require the city lots to do some additional signage that defines it as not a city lot? I think
that would be really important, too. Those are my opinions. >> Uh Mayor Regarding the signage, there's some of the private lots say public parking with a similar logo, right? >> So, I think it's intentionally uh deceiving.
>> Regarding the parking garage, if I were to vote today, I would say yes. What are we waiting for? >> Right. >> We've been talking about this since Commissioner Kerr and I were elected four years ago and we're I I I wondered where the conversation had gone. I want to continue this. I strongly want to
continue this conversation. I think I'd like to know specifically and I know with most of this information we can get right away. What am how much do we have saved? Uh what approximate would be the approximate amount of the loan that would be necessary to get the project started. Uh let's con let's confirm.
I've heard it don't think it can be used. Let's confirm that the 131st it's 131st, not 133rd, right? It's 13th. >> It's 13th >> because it's 133rd. It's at my house. So, so it's >> confirm that 131st Street lot can't be used. Let's make sure of that. And then
an approximation maybe uh our building department can give us I don't know combined with parking. How many do we need? How many what do we need? What's >> Well, we've never done a feasibility study on parking to know whether or not to know what the number of parking spaces we need. So, we do need a
feasibility study on parking. >> I I think it's time we push the button and get going on this. U I'm I'm all about it and I personally this is you could talk me out of it because I thought the triangle was pretty good too. I'd love I think it's a great place at the at the tip there. We have all
that property. We can incorporate nice nice bathrooms in there. Uh and I think that would be a good location for us >> and vote today. I'd vote yes. Build it. >> Sorry, just to clarify, it is 130th. 130 130th. Yeah. And secondly, um, while we
were sitting here, Clara pulled up the resolutions regarding the parking and, um, it does say within one half mile of John's Pass Village. So, it's does at least define the area a little and can't be anywhere. So, just want to clarify that >> we have two resolutions that state that.
It's resolution 20 220 and 20 220. One of them speaks to the 50 cent, but they both state the address that she's talking about. >> Thank you very much, Clara. >> Comment.
>> Well, I definitely think the signage is uh very important for the city. The city parking, we need distinctive um signage for our parking set alone from from the other private u parking lots there. I think it's a great idea that we move
forward with this as soon as we can and we get together and streamline it and and move into that positive direction of building that parking garage, finding out how much um you know the loan will
be and u and then move forward with it. We have a great piece of property where we can put that parking garage at. So, I'm all for it. Um, so Chief, could you could we have staff come back and present to us on
both properties? >> Yes. >> And now my understanding is there was not a feasibility study done on the 130th. >> Not an official feasibility study. >> Yeah, it wasn't an official feasibility study. I think that term was just used
generally and um yeah it was we can definitely um research those properties >> because I think that will give us I mean to understand what's on that property. I know there's utilities and all that run through it and I've been a part of a lot
of conversation, but I think the benefit for the board and for the community to under or the commission and the community to understand the differences of the two properties, what we could do at each property, what we would have to do if we wanted to build a parking garage on either property, because my
understanding is there would be some constraints and things that we would need to do um to build on either one. So if we could have that information come to us and then we can discuss it and decide how to move forward whether you
know I mean once we choose the property I would um assume that we would want to do a feasibility study to determine how many parking spaces we wanted and then I know you can build a parking garage so that if you build it today three stories
but it could be a five-story building it can be built so that in the future additional parking could be added if it was needed. needed down the road. I mean, it's the only way we're going to get it moving forward. >> No, we we have to um decide on which
property it is. Um personally, what I'll call the South Beach lot. Um I brought that up to some residents probably three or four years ago that helped me with my initial campaign and
floated the idea. And you would have thought I was going to be run out of town on a rail that we could not mess with their South Beach parking lot. So, I never brought it up. I It was It was good to hear that the um at least the merchants,
the the businesses in John's Pass Village support the idea. U I love the idea because you don't have to cross Golf Boulevard um as a pedestrian. you can walk right underneath the um the bridge. And um we've brought it up
before about uh vehicle vehicle access. Uh so that if you're going to be traveling north, you go underneath the bridge and you travel north. If you're going to be going south, you go out the um entrance off of Golf Boulevard. Um,
but that's the first time I've heard anyone bring up the actual $4 an hour being on the sign, and I really like that. Um, if we decide at some future date that we're going to change the fee,
um, so be it. we we absorb that cost, but it's an easy um fix for the tourist that doesn't know. So that they don't see that sign with a with a p with a published
published rate right on the sign, they're they're in the wrong spot. I don't care if it says public or whatnot, but and we can restrict the signs. This is not city parking. That'd be wonderful, too. So, I think that was a great idea. Mayor, I have a question possibly for a city attorney. Um, price
gouging is that's called price gouging, right? Is that permissible? There are prohibitions for price gouging during an emergency. Um, but the if you're asking me whether or not that they can charge $35 an hour
versus our $4 an hour, if people want to pay it and there's other available parking lots at $4 an hour, they can continue to do that. But it is not an emergency situation and so the price gouging statutes don't apply.
So, when we permitted this site to be parking, I'm sure there was a permit on this property, right? To to do parking. Would you probably know that, right? >> So, you're asking about the the the flat lot and the permit that was issued for
that. >> Yes. >> So, um currently the flat lot is not uh permitted. It's has a code enforcement on it. >> Okay. So,
here's the challenge in code enforcement. The state makes it very difficult for the city to enforce, which is terrible because our residents often think and our and our businesses
think that we don't enforce things. And I mean, we've talked about that up here. I mean, it's they can get fined every day, but if they're making more money than the fine, they don't really care.
And obviously with a permit, the parts we would be able to control is some of the aspects of the lot, the signage on the lot, but obviously no no way shape the pricing or anything like that. But those would have been the things that would have been looked at during the permitting process.
>> M Mr. ask you you you said as long as people are willing to pay it and there are no other lots of and there are other lots available. Well, they change their pricing so that when there are no other lots available that they're they're raising their rates on holidays and
whatnot, but that's that's there's no restrict code does not prohibit that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Oh, so we could write a we could write an ordinance that would prohibit that. Um I haven't researched that, but I would think that um we cannot regulate
what they charge for their lots. So I think that that would um we'd get some kickback on that and probably get sued. >> Anything additional? >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Um so I skipped the Madira
Beach City Manager brochure. So that would be next on the agenda. All right. Um, I was in touch with or we been in constant contact with Renee in the firm or her firm. She is not here
um, in person. She's she is logged in and is able to answer any questions anybody has. I reviewed the brochure. Megan Powers reviewed the brochure. We had no really big changes to to this. So, we're
we're ready to move forward. Do we have any public comment commissioners? >> Uh, mayor, I looked over this brochure in detail and I think that uh B's done a very good job of capturing uh the spirit
of our city. Uh the description u who would who wouldn't want to work here if they if they read this? But just as important, I thought that the city manager's uh description was exa very much like what at least I described in my one face toface meeting with her.
It's all very clear what we expect. And if we can get someone who fits all checks off all those bullet points, I think we're going to we're going to have someone really great leading our city. So I I think this brochure is is ready to go.
>> I think it looks great. Um, my question is I I was kind of expecting to see what the actual contract would look like because I wanted to have some input on >> Oh, we're going to negotiate that after we find a um someone we want to hire.
>> We don't have >> She's not going to write the contract. >> There is one section on this where uh the first review of resumes will take place on blank. So, >> right, we have to fill in a date. When you make your motion, please include a date. >> Yes, I saw that. Um, well, I was
curious, did she have a date that she felt like she could hit? >> No. The discussions we've had is was that the holidays could possibly, you know, slow this down a little bit, but she we haven't talked about a specific
date. It's just been a time frame. February, March, April, May. >> Oh, stop. I'm just kidding. >> So, she I think she needs to give us some direction. >> Renee, are you are you still on on? >> Yes, I am.
>> Okay. So, she can answer any questions. >> Okay. So, on the first review of resumeumés will take place on what date? What date do you feel comfortable that you would have the applicants to be able to submit to us for review? >> I would like us to have a date no sooner
than January 26. That's a Monday. I always like to have it on a Monday because people have the weekend to get their stuff to me. And in Florida, a lot of candidates wait until the very end to apply because of open records and public records and uh what have you. But uh
that gives us six weeks to really um market this position and and do quite a bit of outreach to have a great pool of candidates for you. So um I would like to see January 26. If for some reason that's a conflict or you want a different date, I would just suggest it
be after that. >> I mean, commission, do you does anyone have an issue with that date? >> That's fine. >> Do you have an issue with January 26th? I don't have an issue with that date. Hooch, >> no.
>> Nope. So, I mean, I I thought I thought the um brochure was great. I I agree with um Commissioner Tagalini. It captured everything that I felt like was part of the conversation. So, um I'm
excited for us to have January 26th show up. >> So, so that's not that's a Monday, so we're not we're not interviewing that day, right? That's first review of résumés.
>> So, would we have a official meeting or would the résés be emailed to us independently to read? How would that work? >> We need to have a public meeting. >> A public meeting, >> right? >> If that's the case, that date doesn't work for me. I work that I work all all that day. >> Um, mayor, >> yes,
>> I'm sorry. If I may, that's the date where I begin to review resumes, okay, >> to see the quality of candidates that we have. >> You will be getting a timeline for me shortly. uh you'll see that date on the calendar, but there'll also be a couple of other dates on there. Those are the dates where you will decide which
candidates you would like to interview. And then the the second date that's important will be the date you interview candidates. So it's this is just a date for me to get started to >> the 26 doesn't involve us. >> That's correct. >> Then okay.
>> Do we have any additional comments? >> No. >> No comment. Thank you. So, do we have a motion? Oh, no. We can't approve this. We're going to approve it the next one. Remember, whoever makes the motion, January 26 is our date in our next meeting. All right. Next on the agenda
is chronic nuisance chapter 34, article 7. This is on the agenda. Just to get the discussion started, I think we may need the city attorney to do some research. One of the problems that we've had post Hela and Milton is chronic
nuisance. And that is people who have chronically not done the things that they need to do under code enforcement. It could be anything from um not repairing your
property to grass to um anything. And so when we were in discussion, I had a discussion with Marcy and we were reading chapter 34 article 7. And we'd like for the city attorney to weigh in on this as to whether or not we can use
this um to motivate people for finding for different things like that. And you don't have to answer it today, but we wanted to start the discussion. I know you weren't prepared because it wasn't an agenda item.
>> Yeah, I I would have to read that. I mean, I obviously I remember the chronic nuisance ordinance because I was the one that drafted it, but that was a number of years ago and it was for a different purpose back then. So, I'm pulling it up right now. If you want to move on and give me a couple minutes to
read it real quick, then I'll be able to answer you. Okay. >> Okay. Do we have any public comment? >> Marcy, do you have any input on it? >> No. I I think what what we were kind of going through this and what appealed to us was it seemed to give the city
authority to do things on a property if the person that was not compliant wasn't adhering to it. But like we discussed and what Tom kind of alluded to is it may not be particular to the situations that we're interested in resolving. And maybe if it's not, then maybe we address
that too as well because I do feel like um it's hard to continue to explain to the residents that our hands are tied to the extent that they are. And I know it's it's it's becoming more and more frustrating following the storm. And I know you guys get a lot of complaints about pools, grass, um and properties
that are in disrepair. There's lots of rats in this town. I know more about rats than I ever thought I would. >> I'm I'm getting there. Okay. I think my point on it is that the I think staff needs more in their toolbox
than what they have to be able to address the issues. Yeah, I think what you and I were looking at it says like abatement by the city and gives the city it looks like a an avenue by which we do certain things and then they get charged back. But like
I said to Tom's point, it may not be particular to what we're exactly >> to what we want. >> Okay. So this particular code provision does not do anything more than what your special magistrate code provision provides under your normal code violation cases. Um
this doesn't give any priority. Um you'll remember that in chapter 162 in our code relative to normal code enforcement actions the special master has the right to uh order abatement um and also allow the city to recover those
fees or those costs. But a chronic nuisance lean is on the same level as a special magistrate lean. They don't take priority over any um other leans like
tax leans or special assessments. Um and they fall in the same category as if it's a homesteaded property, you would not be able to foreclose them. So you don't put you don't gain anything by going through this longer process because there is a longer process going
through chronic nuisance to get to the same point. If it's actual abatement by the city that you want the ability to do that you can use this. But what what does that mean? Normally abatement is we send our lawn mower out
there to cut the grass. But most of these structures here that are damaged are um not livable. They're kind of abandoned. Do we want to pay for demolition and you may be $10,000 of property and
demolition of a home? Do you want to go to that extent, put a lean on the property and not be able to recover it? Because that's the bottom line. Whether the lean is for demolition, grass cutting, special magistrate, chronic nuisance, it's all the same level of
priority. So, I know that some cities that we represent, the cities have a budget for demo. Uh Tarpon Springs puts away, I think it was $15,000 a year that they use for demolition of properties, but that's right in their budget. um and
they do one or two demolitions and they're done for the year because they've exhausted their budget. So, it all depends on what you want to do. But, u the other option obviously is um file a complaint for injunctive
relief in circuit court and have a judge order them to do things. And if they don't do it, then they could be held in contempt of court and fined and jailed in a worst case scenario. So, not recover the fines. Under what circumstances would the city not be able
to recover fines that were levied on a property when it sells? >> So, um, under the law, the lean never hits. So, it's it's like it's a floating above the property if it's homesteaded.
If the homesteaded property sells, that lean never drops. It it never hits the property. That doesn't mean that it doesn't hit any other non-homesteaded property. So, for example, they own a home here. You have the lean on this property and they own a vacant lot in
seinal. Well, that lean once it was recorded, it hit that lot in seinal. So, you could foreclose that lean and you you know there. most people they don't have significant other assets or non-homesteaded property. So most of the
time we're unable to collect. >> So that's what I thought. Um and we were discussing today. I thought that I had remembered you telling us that or or maybe it was just myself in a one-on-one conversation with you that if a property was homesteaded, you couldn't collect
even when it sold. You couldn't make them pay if it's a homesteaded property. >> That's correct. That's the law. Right. So, so the the um benefit for the city is that or or for our benefit here today in this conversation if we were to move
forward with saying, "Okay, if you don't cut your grass, we're going to cut your grass. We're going to do it under the abatement. We're going to put a lean for the $100 it cost to cut your grass. You're not living in your house. It's ratinfested. We're going to send out a
crew and we're going to um board the whole house up so that there's no ingress egress. The city could spend a dollar or could spend $10,000. And if that's a homesteaded property, we may as well have just said with the money because we're not going to get it back
unless they own a piece of property someplace that is not homesteaded >> in Penllis County. >> In Penllis County, >> if we know that they own it in Pasco County, for example, we could record the lean there, too. and then it would hit that property. But when we record it only in Penelis and only as Penelis properties
>> but I I think we should also make it clear that there are some things that we do in the city protect life and property. We spend money to do that. We're talking about one property in particular right now uh that we have in in MadiRaa Beach that I have suggested
to the city manager that we go out and we board it up because it's a life safety issue. Right. we will more than likely not be able to recover that money, but we've protected the public. So, there are sometimes we have to do that and we don't get our money. >> I think that makes total sense, but um
for the conversation to understand if we could use that chapter or not. So, >> okay. >> All right. Any questions? >> Does that does that sort of fall under the 5A? What community development,
>> the chronic nuisance, >> the chronic nuisance with the non-conforming time restrictions. >> That was that was what I added just for discussion specifically about that. So, next on the agenda is the property. >> Okay. Um
I'll I'll take care of that. So, and thank you for putting it on the agenda because it is uh timesensitive um for a couple of the board may know but I know I don't believe the entire board
knows that uh property has become available uh on 150th just behind um the strip center where Gast Homes is. And I've been back there. I haven't I
haven't spoken with the owner or anything, just through a third party. And that open space back there, it would be a fantastic in my opinion place to put the public works building
and store the equipment there. it would what we're trying to do at the new property at the marina and the existing property at the marina um by and I know we just voted to move forward on that
just a couple of weeks ago um but we didn't have this information at the time they they want to move the owner wants the way I understand it they want to move quickly uh to sell that property
It was basically sold prior to the hurricane and then that deal fell through. Um it has at at least two different access points to be able to
get to the property, possibly three. Um it's bigger than the property that was allocated at the marina for public works. It's basically out of sight. it opens up um since we're going to develop
that entire marina area in my mind anyway um to put a full plan together for that property. Um but I I wanted to bring it up and hopefully um not looking for a lot of
discussion on it right now, just that um keep an open mind. Um the uh chief is well verssed on I mean we have lots of questions yet to get be answered but um to be able to speak with individual
board members on a one-on-one basis and just present the information so that we can um provide a uh continue the discussion as soon as we get back in in January because we have no more meetings between now and then.
Um but um personally I I I I if we can if we can get that property uh it's it's worth at least a discussion on. >> Commissioner, do you have is there an
address you can give us so we can >> I can find it or >> it is it is the property directly behind the old Jeff the Jeweler. There's three lots there. Um, do we have any public comment?
So, I will tell you I had been approached by someone about this piece of property prior and I deemed the property not useful for the city based off of the configuration, the what the current owner wanted from
the city in return. And I confirmed today with Megan the footprint of the building that has been designed for public works won't work on this property the way it the way that the property is
laid out. It's very narrow and it would it would not and there is not two um entrances. The street that the Verizon currently uses is owned by
Madiraa Cove and MadiRaa Cove owns that road. It's a private road. So the entrance would be off of 150th and would come up. It's it's a very odd my opinion I think everybody should look at it. It is it is a very oddshaped piece of
property and with the lease to Frontier um that property is not accessible because it's already leased out to someone. But the the building that is being built for public works is a drive-thru and it's a drive-thru for
many purposes. But when you're I've spent quite a bit of time over at the public works yard and I have a I feel like I have a very good understanding of the equipment that we have and how it's used and how it is loaded and offloaded
and I don't personally see how this property would work for our public works department. That is my opinion based off of and I have I've been looking into this property for months within. >> So everyone's aware, the address that I
have is 217 150th. >> Yeah, actually there's a a couple of parcels that go together on that. Um >> he had it up on the screen. >> Okay. Um yeah, there's actually all three of those parcels together. Now the
one is is leased out. You're absolutely right. Um I believe um the lease agreement was being forwarded to the chief. Um did you receive that? >> I received the um easement agreement from Frontier, but
that was it. >> Okay. If you need anything additional, I'm sure we can get that for you. >> Um but yeah, I mean it's it's a it's a much bigger piece of property than than what's at allocated for the marina. And I think as far as a
draw a drive-thru um what I have here I I think that that could be accommodated uh if that's important or as um the what I have here is that the size and design of the original building is
135 ft by 55 ft. I is that correct? Yeah. I, you know, I haven't done any measurements, but by just looking at the Penllis County um site, it looks like that would fit on there. Um I don't know. I I I just think it needs some
consideration. >> Voice may occur. Do we know how much that cost the land? >> Not yet. >> Not yet. But I would encourage Oh, sorry. >> Yeah, I was going to say it's probably worth a maybe five 10 minute discussion.
So I am okay at least to you know put it on the agenda to discuss this maybe 5 10 minutes. It it never hurts. >> Let's do some homework on that. Let's do some studies. >> So moving forward what I would do is I would have to set up one ones because it
couldn't be discussed up here without an agreement in place. Correct me if I'm wrong, Tom. Is that accurate? you can do it, but you would blow your um capability of getting a better deal. Once the public knows about the numbers that you're talking about, it's it's
probably not beneficial to talk about it publicly. And that's the reason why most of these um things are um done by way of the city manager entering into an agreement, bringing it to you, and discussing it to you once that agreement is there, contingent upon your approval,
obviously, just like the last one. That's usually the way that it's done, but um I would not suggest if you're going to make an offer that you all talk about it up here, but you can get the information directly with um the acting city manager and then if you if
Commissioner Ker, Vice Mayor wants to put it on the agenda for discussion, you would have the ability to do that then. But I would just caution you because that drives up the price is the bottom line. >> What I'll do is I'll reach out. I'll set up one-on- ones to discuss and then
at the next meeting you can provide direction. >> I'm not against the discussion. I hope you didn't take that. That isn't what I meant. I just Right. I'm not against that. Um but that property, all three lots combined, including the rented piece, is 1.66 acres.
>> So it it it is not um bigger than the current public works. what >> the usable space isn't, but that's that's for a conversation. >> Um I will welcome the one-on-one chief. >> Yeah, I would definitely encourage um the commission to uh look at this piece
of property. I think there's value in this piece of property. Um and I I would encourage a discussion on going forward with this also. >> Any additional comments? Okay. Next is parking rate.
>> Yes. actually um I've been approached by some merchants and and some residents in in uh John's Pass or uh I'm sorry, Madira Beach um to possibly do a lowering of our city
parking rate in John's Pass to 250 throughout the holiday season to encourage more shoppers to come in. some uh local residents that not do not live on MadiRaa Beach but live in say Simol, Largo, Clearwater to come down and visit
our our city throughout the shopping season. Um so basically looking at um say the next 90 days to lowering the price and I would like to have a a
discussion about this. Do I have any public comment? >> Uh, I love the idea of uh lowering the rate and encouraging more visitors uh for however long a time frame you guys deem necessary or possible. Uh but I
really enjoyed the conversation earlier about some uh ordinances uh potentially coming from the commission to make it clear uh that that private lot in the back is not public parking. It is a privately owned lot and it has expend
exponentially higher rates. Uh I think that would be more beneficial. Uh because if you lower the parking to 250 that's awesome but getting that news out there is a little tricky and then someone comes down to John's who doesn't know John's Pass, they're going to get funneled right into that predatory lot
and they're never going to come back. And uh I think that is the biggest concern. Uh while this is an awesome idea and I appreciate the idea and I I love the city commission looking at ways to try to encourage people to visit John's Pass. Um and and I think it would
be positive. My biggest concern is we all work really hard to get people down here. you guys sacrifice funding to get people to come down only to end up in that private lot and never come back. Um, so that would be my biggest concern and I would encourage you guys to move forward with a discussion on passing
some sort of ordinance uh to to force signage changes at that private lot in the back. Uh, that is the biggest blight to John's Pass by far. Uh, I understand uh attorney Tr's comments about uh regulating their pricing and I
understand that you can't do that to private business, but I think there's ways that you could uh maybe handicap their ability to funnel traffic into their private law by making them change their signs to make it clear that that is a privately owned lot. And then we
could do outreach. Hey, the privately owned lots are more expensive and then funnel them to that city parking. Uh where the city makes more revenue, John's Pass would make more revenue because people would be less turned off of visiting for sure. Um while I
appreciate the idea, I think we have a bigger problem that we need to address for sure. >> Thank you. Do you have any additional public comment, Commissioner? Oh. Good afternoon. I'm Christina Pascusi. I think you all know where I live. Um, I
have to agree. You can make free. You could actually pay people to to stay in your parking lot. It's not going to affect anything. It What's happening to us is that private laws just shooting us in the foot. It's a nice thought, nice gesture, but why don't we take that
money and come up with some creative way, the parking money, instead of discounting it, take the money we got, come up with some creative way with a wonderful attorney that we can make sure we eliminate the the they're being
exploited. The poor visitors are being exploited by that private lot. So, that's my thoughts. Completely agree. >> Thank you. Do you have any additional public comment commission? >> Well, it's a um humble I mean it's a great idea. I I can't support it. I I
think it just creates more confusion than it would be beneficial. And I would agree if I mean we'd be losing the 50 cents per hour to fund the new the new uh parking uh during that 60-day period, 90-day period, whatever. Um we're going
to need that funding. Um I don't think there's a lot of push back on the $4 an hour. People want to come to the um and you're you're at the beach. It's you're going to pay for parking. I think that's reasonable. Um, let's expedite the signage and and
anything we need can do to um stop the predatory uh parking rates. I had heard some complaints about parking cost in
Archa Park, not John's Pass. So, if you would like to consider lowering the price per hour in Archaw Park, I would support that. Um, but not John's Pass.
My concern is how do we get the word out in time? And I'm generally not opposed to, you know, breaks over the holidays, but I just don't we'd have to advertise somehow to let people know we got the cheap parking. And I definitely agree
because I've seen this problem with the private parking for many many years. Let's let's put our energy into fixing that problem. >> I agree. We can't we would not even be able to vote on this until January because it's not on the agenda. So, it's
a it's a great idea. I will say I had a conversation this week with a staff member who was talking about um had just dis in discussion on maybe doing like uh a Friday or a Saturday where it's free
parking in the city lots. Come to John's Pass from this to this you can park for free. In the future that might be a great way to help um jin up business for the pass. I thought it was a cool idea. not mine, but um a neat idea. I don't
think we could do anything to parking because it would be January, but I agree we should focus on an ordinance and maybe new signage that would be better detailed for the residents and for the visitors. So, if nothing more, then we'll move on
to the next item, which is community development non-conforming time restrictions. Marcy, >> um good afternoon, commission. We had brought this um forward to discuss because our non-conforming code in
general uh needs some attention but the main thing in it that we caught um or that we were trying to focus on was in 110-93 um we have some time limitations as we go through this. It's important to note that you can be non-conforming for
three reasons. You can be non-conforming due to use that's no longer allowed. You can be non-conforming because your lot doesn't meet current requirements and you can be non-conforming due to your structure possibly being within the setbacks and stuff like that. So you
have three three things going on. The one thing that we were concerned about as staff is in 110 93 2D there's time limitations about you losing non-conforming use.
The issue with this code is it interchanges use structure and land. It just kind of has mired it all together. So staff was concerned that the way it was worded, it would limit the time frame by which non-compliant homes, which means if they're not flood
plane compliant and elevated, would lose the ability to rehabilitate their home through renovations um within the 18-month period. But once we had drafted this up and had sent it to Tom for review, his most recent correspondence, and Tom, you can
correct me if I'm wrong. Um, because I know Jed sent you the email. The 110, we have clauses in here that address involuntary loss and catastrophic loss. So, if you lose your structure or have damage because of
those, it kind of triggers a different set of rules. Both of those sections or neither of those sections have time frames associated with them. So what we probably need at this point based on a recent correspondence we have with Tom is clarification on
if the time frames listed in 11093 have any impact on how we interpret and enforce our recovery efforts in 110-95 andor 110-96. If the time frames are not applicable in
those two categories, then we have nothing to address here. Um, but we've been going back and forth quite a bit and just something most recently with um the city attorney made us kind of wonder just need clarification from him to be quite honest and like I said, we've been kind of going back and forth based on
planning commission comments and then this. So, as of like the last day or two, we've got some comments that kind of needed some clarification from Tom and he's just now hearing this. in all fairness to him um as we were discussing it today. So our goal was to protect the residents
such that if they were an atgrade structure and still interested in just repairing their home and moving back into it, we didn't want our code to prevent that from happening. So that was our biggest concern with touching this and we have time. It would come up in March. So, we don't have to solve it
this evening, but we definitely need to get the discussion out there and make sure our code allows for the ability for homeowners to to repair their homes. And I don't know, Tom, if you want to weigh in on the time constraints and how they're applicable to the sections. So,
the question I was asked um a couple of days ago was, are there time restrictions relative to um section 110-95? And that is is the loss of use involuntarily. There is no time restriction on that.
So, you don't have to worry about 18 months or 365 days, however you're looking at it. And under 110-96, rebuilding after catastrophic loss, there's no time requirement there either. So, both of those will probably come into play relative to hurricane
damage homes. the 110-932. That's the provision of the code that basically says, "Hey, I' I've had this business. Um, it's a not a permitted use on the property and I've had it for a
number of years and I've just decided I'm no longer going to run that business there, and I'm gonna" and a year passes. Well, can that person start that business up again? Well, no, he cannot because he voluntarily or she
voluntarily stopped that nonconforming use. So, there is a 365day requirement there. Most cities have a 90 to 120day provision. You have
a one-year provision. So, uh which allows a lot of nonconforming uses to continue to exist. And the idea of your code provision relative to non-conforming uses is to force people to become um in conformity with your code, not to
allow them to continue to be nonconforming. So um I hope that answers your question. Involuntary loss, catastrophic loss, whatever time it takes to rebuild, you know, they don't lose that nonconformity. >> So with that clarification from Tom, we
do not have to discuss this right now. you will see the non-conforming come to you again and that's going to be to better clarify use structure land and better identify that. So the urgency with the time constraints does not exist based on this clarification so we don't
have to go down this rabbit hole right now. >> Thank you. Do we have any public comment? >> Bob Bellow 13301 Golf Lane. So, thank you for that because I had two pages that I was going to have to talk really, really quick to get in my five minutes.
Um, so it's a move point now. However, since we're bringing this up and we're looking at revising that, I don't know if you remember maybe about four months back, I shared um some stuff with the mayor um in regards to nonconformities and some things I thought that would be
helpful and kind of touched on what I spoke about earlier about helping people to, you know, rebuild and, you know, encourage it. So, I don't know if I need to resend that. If you might have it, I I'll look. But if we could maybe get
that in the hands of Marcy, um I think it would be a great opportunity to try to kill two birds with one stone and you know knock out some concerns I would have. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Do we have any additional public comment commission?
Yes. And >> in some instances, nonconformity can become conforming. If a project was permitted, let's say, 100 years ago and is still standing and it's not in conformance with today's
code, we should still honor that. Now, if they tear the project down and want to rebuild it, that's another story. But if a project if the building's been there for a long long time, I would like to give the honor of the ownership to
retain the property the building. >> Okay. Thank you. Next on the agenda is public works interlocal agreement with Penllis County for the designation of collection and removal responsibilities within geographic Penllis County. >> Good evening again.
commissioners. This is really just um an item that we need to approve for Penllis County in the event of a disaster. So this >> um issues that we had during Helen was who was responsible for where not really so much here in Madiraa Beach, but in other areas within the county, but this
just clearly defines what the county is responsible for and what the city's responsible for. So they're just asking that we approve the analo agreement. Do we have any public comment commissioners? >> After reading it seems very clear we
need to approve it. >> I believe we discussed this already. >> I think we've had some discussion on something. >> We've not had an agreement on the responsibility on the next topic. Yes, we have. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. No comment. >> Yeah, I read it and it makes total sense to me. Then next on the agenda is the interlocal agreement with Penllis County for disaster debris and monitoring services. This is again another item that is only in the event of a disaster.
The county does the bidding process for us. There was an agreement that was done I believe in 2023 or four. I don't believe that is still in effect until 2028. The issue with that and the difference between the two is this allows market value to be
changed whereas in the other agreement it does not. So we had that issue with the previous agreement which is why our debris started a little bit slower because we were competing with Hillsboro and FDOT. So that's the only difference you see here.
>> Do we have any public comment commission? >> No comment. >> No comment. Thank you, Megan. Then next on the agenda is Street Sweeping Services, Sweeping Corp of America contract. This is currently our street
sweeping um contractor that we've had for the previous year. Um 2025 was approved by the previous city manager and there is a price increase which is why it's coming back before you. I apologize on having the contract
on the dis um but attorney Tras does have some changes. So what we're asking is that um we get the approval to proceed with the comments and changes as approved by attorney Tras and this is off the source well contract
which is a procurement that we use often. >> Do we have any public comment? Chuck Dylan, 529, Lilian. I didn't mean to be here for this, but yet the street sweeping, they do a lousy job. I mean, you know, and it just like they go down the streets 30 miles an hour and barely
pick up anything. So, I'm sorry, Megan, but like it's just like it's it's I don't think that we're getting our due as to whatever we're paying for them because they go fast as ever. Thank you. >> Do we have any additional public comment? Commissioners,
>> can I make a comment on that? Anytime it's been brought to my attention that the drivers have been driving too fast, I immediately reach out to the route supervisor and it's corrected. Um, so I just need those phone calls to come to me. >> I I had no idea Mr. Dylan was coming up
because I was going to say the same thing. Uh, and I walk around, ride my bikes, walk my dogs frequently, and right after they're done, they're they're kind of a mess still. I mean, I I guess we're you're satisfied with it. But in in in my personal in our my
little neighborhood, they they don't do a very they don't do a very good job to be honest. I did not know Mr. Dylan was coming here today. That was my opinion. So, I I don't know. Do we have any Have we looked at some other businesses or what can we do? You say they fix it after you have a conversation with him.
Well, we shouldn't have to keep having conversations with them. >> I don't get many complaints about them if I'm going to be completely honest. So if the complaints are brought to me, I don't I'm not aware of the >> Yeah, I've never complained to you directly. I just >> So I need to be aware of the issue so that I can correct them because I can
tell you that they do pick up an enormous amount of debris. So um sometimes they are driving a little bit too fast and it does get corrected. I get um one resident who will send me their Ring video which works perfect or I personally go out and I will watch
them. So, if I'm not aware of it, um, then I I can't really correct it. Is there other companies out there? Yes. Um, but this is just the company that we've been using and we did use prior to owning a street sweeper. And the reason for not purchasing a street sweeper is
the street sweepers now are over $400,000. Um, and the life expectancy of a street sweeper is five to six years. So, 400 plus,000 in five to six years. needing additional staff because we currently
don't have that staff right now. It it it's a lot more of a a hassle and I understand contracting out a service you don't get as good of a service as you would if you do it in house but it's more feasible for us to contract it out.
>> Thank you. I actually wasn't going to comment on the speed. I was going to just comment on the effectiveness. Uh the streets don't seem clean. So it depends on so Bokea neighborhood is pvious concrete which is why there's that second additional regenerative air.
So you have two different trucks that come out here. One truck is just the mechanical sweeper and then the second truck which only does the pvious is the regenerative air because it's a vacuum. >> Is it the same company? >> It's the same company just two different times. >> Two different times >> because we need a vacuum to clean the
pvious. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Megan, is this a yearly contract that we do? >> Yes. >> And do they weigh like when they get rid of the debris, they weigh it? Yes. Or Okay. So, maybe we can put them on notice that we are getting complaints and maybe start getting the data of how
much they're picking up and >> maybe just let them know that, you know, we've gotten some complaints and we can start looking at the data from what they're picking up and start reviewing that maybe a little bit if you if you want. >> Absolutely, we can do that. But we also have a enormous amount of construction
sites. So in areas where they're tracking out a lot >> and they're tracking out on the days whenever we're sweeping or the mud and the curb line is two inches thick, the sweeper's not going to pick that up. So it makes it really incredibly difficult to keep the streets clean when there's
so much construction going on. >> Just as a side note, >> do they cover the whole entire city? >> They do except for Gulf Boulevard and 150th. That's dot >> but sometimes they will do it but that's not what we pay for
>> comments. >> The contracts annual as you stated. Yes. >> Is it coming up? >> Yes. January 1st is whenever it's expiring. >> So the old price >> could we just put it out to bid and see if there's any competitive bid with
maybe a cheaper price? we can if you give the approval to go on a month-to-month basis. Um, but I don't know that the contract the pricing would be the same if we were to go month-to-month versus having a contract price because going out to bid is is going to be a a couple month process.
So, we can either not sweep for a couple months or pay a month a month, which I don't know what that fee would be. So technically we should have started this a couple months ago if we were planning on >> it was just brought to me that there was an increase.
>> I I I would be willing to move forward with them uh with uh Miss Forb's suggestion put them on notice. This this might be the last year. >> What percentage is the increase? >> Um it's it's $2,500 a month to only
2725. So, $225 a month increase. >> I guess we can wait another 10 months. >> So, it's a 62,000 contract. 62,700 for one year. >> No, 32,700 for one year. Currently, it's $30,000 a
year. >> Okay. >> I also agree. I I I believe that uh we could put them on notice, you know, and let them know that we're getting um some complaints and uh I mean obviously this
is this is a great contract for them as well. So uh um definitely and do you know when exactly their schedule is when they >> usually it's the first and the third week. First is first to second week is the whole city and then the third week
is the pvious which is Bogusa 137th and portions of Gulf lane. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Thank you. Anything? Thank you. >> One of the thing you should know, this is not an annual contract. This is a 36-month contract with two one-year
renewals. So, it's up to five years possibly. So if you want to give direction on some other time period um then we would need to negotiate that but so if you if you look at >> paragraph >> I think that's something that we need to
correct in that Tom because when I reached out to them about that same question they had their legal review and their legal review said that the term which was the one-year term in the original contract overrode that. So we can definitely make that change. we would just needed to strike out the
revision saying it's a 36-month term in paragraph number three. And there are some other things that um that Megan and I have talked about that that we need to change in this form agreement that they have, but I think that what we're just looking for is if so long as you're
comfortable with the price amounts, you know, allow me the opportunity to negotiate the terms of the contract so long as the numbers are good to you. I just want to make sure that we don't take any other obligations. And there's one thing I'm really concerned about is
that when they pick up our street debris, they dispose of it. They don't tell us where they dispose of it. It's not in the contract, but we still own it. So, if it's hazardous in some way, and they're placing it somewhere, that's our responsibility. So, I just that's
one of the things I want to address. There's a bunch of others, but as long as you're comfortable with the numbers, Megan and I and the contractor can work out the contract. >> So, in our next meeting, the motion would be to approve the contract subject to you negotiating.
>> Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. >> I think that's >> Thank you. So, um respond to public comments. We had two or we had three um public comments prior to the meeting. Um the first one was um to look at options
to relax code for lifting etc. Um there was some talk about PD for residential. I think that that conversation that was given to us. If staff could dissect that and maybe come back with an opinion at a
later meeting on that, I'd be happy to share what my thoughts were on it later. Um, but I think it it would be a good conversation to have and to be able to just have the conversation here at another meeting.
And then um uh when the second that we had was on the jetty and the tourism of the walkway and handicap fishing. I think that we're all committed to finding what we want to do there um and moving forward with that and then the
coffee shop. So that was all that we had. if anyone has any other comments. If not, it is 5:56. We will take um we will reconvene at 6:10
and the meeting is adjourned. Part: 2
Good evening and welcome to the board of commissioners regular meeting. Today is Wednesday, December 10th, 2025. It is 6 pm. City attorney, would you lead us in the invocation and pledge of allegiance, please? Our
heavenly father, as citizens of the city of Madera Beach meet together to address our local concerns and opportunities, we give thanks to you for the bounty that we enjoy in all as aspects of our community life here. We ask for inspiration to strive for excellence in
our endeavors to serve the public um and grant us peace in our world and harmony between all people greater glory. This we pray. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Mayor Brooks. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> here. >> Commissioner Tagalini >> here. >> Commissioner McGee >> here.
Commissioner Gabbay >> here. >> All are present. >> Next is the approval of the agenda. Do we have an approval? >> Like to make a motion to approve the agenda as written. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role,
please? >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Taglery, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabay, >> yes. Mayor Brooks. >> Yes. >> The motion carried five to zero. >> We have no proclamations or
presentations. Next on the agenda is public comment. Public participation is encouraged. If you are addressing the commission, step to the podium and state your name and address for the record and the organization or group you represent. Please limit your comments to five
minutes and do not include any topic on the agenda. Public comment on agenda items will be allowed when they come up. If you would like someone at the city to follow up on a comment or question made at the meeting, you may fill out a comment card with your contact
information and give it to the city manager. Comment cards are available at the back table in the commission chambers. Completing a comment card is not mandatory. For any quasi judicial public hearings that might be on the agenda, an affected person may become a
party to a quasi judicial proceeding and can be entitled to present evidence at the hearing, including the sworn testimony of witnesses and relevant exhibits and other documentary evidence and to cross-examine all witnesses by
filing a notice of intent to be a party with the community development director not less than 5 days prior to to the hearing. Do we have any public comment, please? >> Good evening, commissioners, mayor. Um
Helen Price, 1330 Street East, uh in Mader Beach, and I'm here, uh representing the board of trustees for the Gulf Beaches Library. just thought I'd give you my popup uh library report since I sometimes send
you emails and sometimes I just want to come down and see you. So, um uh basically um library is doing good in really good shape. If you've gone to see it, you'll see the inside of it is totally redone after the uh the storm. And we are having our annual fundraiser
on February 26th, just to let y'all know. Um, we're having a couple of meetings about that, so I don't know the exact format, but the chamber will be involved and it'll be similar to the last one, I believe. Um, I also want to remind everybody that
there's a notary at the library, two of them. It's only $5. I don't know if you've gone to your bank recently and got something notorized, but they're charging like 15, $20, but you can always go to the library and get it done without making an appointment or stay
standing in line. Um, don't know if everybody's aware that you can check out readers and audio books from the library. We have museum passes there from many many of the major museums. You can check them out. You get
them for free if you have a card. Uh, for two people and two children, good for one week. Uh, but you have to go down and actually physically check it out. Um, we also have a large archive of city documents really all up and down
the beach. Really interesting, cool documents that are kind of kept in the back. We're trying to show them off and rotate them out front, but if you go in there, you'll see some really, really neat older pictures of the library and things around it. Um, also don't forget
that the AARP does the taxes for anybody. You don't have to be a senior citizen or a member of AAP. Just call, make an appointment, and they'll go down and do your taxes for you. So, really, that's it. Wanted to let you know we're having the fundraiser and that you're
all invited. Everyone behind me is too. And, uh, you'll be hearing about it later. >> Thank you. >> Any questions? >> Sounds great. Thank you. >> Can I ask a question? Yeah, >> mayor. Just regarding the the the fundraising
brick project, where where are we with that? What's what's the progress? I I know we got we got sideswiped, >> right? I believe they're either installed now or they're about to get installed actually in the front of the library. It didn't work out putting them
back as like thin papers on top of the patio. Nobody goes out to the patio. So, and then when they came in, first wave came in and they were like two and a half inches thick. Another wave came in, they were two inches, things like that. So, we've decided to embed them in in
the ground right by the front doors where we have white rock. >> Great. >> I'm not sure if they're there, but they're coming up. >> Thank you. >> And um you can always get those year round. You just The $100 though was only
good for that eight months that we had the project. So, okay. And there was something I remembered at the end. But, well, that's it. Any questions? Email me or anything you'd like. Our library is here for everybody and it's a really
great place. >> Thank you. Do we have any additional public comment? Next on the agenda is approval of the minutes. If the commission has had the opportunity to review the minutes, there's no changes. Do we have a motion?
I'll make a motion to approve the minutes as written. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabbay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee,
>> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carried five to zero. >> Next is the consent agenda. I will read the items on the consent agenda. A is ITB number 25-14 John'spass dredging contract approval. B
interlocal agreement with Panelis County for disaster debris and monitoring services. C interlocal agreement with Panelis County for designation of collection and removal responsibilities within graphic geographic Penllis County. D Street sweeping services
sweeping corp of America contract approval. and E MadiRaa Beach city manager brochure. If everyone is okay with the consent agenda, do we have a motion? >> Mayor, do we need to pull out the street sweeping services to allow for attorney
tr or to include that in the the approval? >> And we also need to pull mad beach city manager brochure to talk about the date >> the day the date. >> So if we could pull those two items and approve A, B, and C. >> Okay. Do we have a motion?
I move we pass a consent agenda for items A, B, and C on the agenda. >> Do we have a second? >> A second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Gavay, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carry five to zero. >> Next on the agenda is the street sweeping services sweeping corp of America contract approval. Do we have a motion? >> I'm just requesting that the motion be
made to approve the contract uh with the language negotiated uh with through the city attorney's office. I'll make a motion to approve the street sweeping services um with the contract language interpreted
by the uh city attorney. >> Do we have a second? Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini, >> yes.
>> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carry five to zero. >> Next on the agenda is the MadiRaa Beach City Manager brochure. We need to add in the date if someone would like to make a motion.
I move that we approve the brochure with the insertion of January 26 uh 2026 as the due date for résumés. >> Do we have a second? >> A second.
>> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Taglerini, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gavay, >> yes. Mayor Brooks. >> Yes. >> The motion carry five to zero.
>> Next on the agenda is public hearings. A resolution 2025-14 affordable housing property tax exemption. City attorney. >> Thank you, mayor. I'm going to read this resolution by title only. This is resolution 2025-14, a resolution of the of the board of commissioners of the
city of Mader Beach, Florida, opting out of providing the 80 to 120% AMI missing middle property tax exemption to developments that would otherwise qualify pursuant to House Bill 7073 and providing for an effective date. That
was the reading of resolution 2025-14 by title only. This is very similar to the resolution that you adopted last year. We just changed the date on it. Um, and so we're asking for your consideration of approval on this one. >> Do we have any public comment,
>> commissioners? >> Madame Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve to adopt resolution 2025-14. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Gavagi, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Tagler, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. Vice Mayor Kerr. >> Yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carry 5 to zero. >> Next on the agenda is ordinance 2025-9 C3 zoning district setbacks. Second
reading and public hearing. City attorney. >> Thank you, mayor. This is uh ordinance 2025-9, an ordinance of the city of Mader Beach, Florida amending chapter 110 zoning article 5 districts division 7 C3 retail commercial section 110-321
setback requirements of the city's land development regulations to reduce the front and side setbacks providing for conflict providing for severability providing for codification and providing for an effective date. That was the second and final reading of ordinance 2025-9
by title only. It does require a public hearing. I'm not sure if Marcy wants to um give any staffing on this. Is this is the second reading of this ordinance. You've already been received staffing on it. Whatever your direction is.
So, this this was a privately initiated uh a amendment to our uh zoning code um that staff does support um to reduce the front yard setback in the C3 retail commercial zoning district from 25 ft to
10 feet and then to reduce the uh uh sideyard setback for uh lots 120 feet or or less. And we still would be be maintaining the 10 foot uh minimum side setback required for uh corner lots
or or have sideyard street adjacent. Um and and in the staff memo listed in various uh or comprehensive plan or special area planner I guess now adop adopted Madira Beach master plan that
that support this uh this code change. Do we have any public comment? Commissioners, do you have any questions or comments? >> This aligns with our master plan. There's been no changes since our first vote. Uh, I move the approval of
ordinance 2025-9 C3, zoning district setbacks. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Taglerini, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gabay, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks,
>> yes. The motion carry 5 to zero. >> Next on the agenda is ordinance 2025-20 certified recovery residences first reading and public hearing. City attorney. >> Thank you mayor. This is ordinance 2025-20, an ordinance of the city of Madier Beach, Florida, amending article
6, supplementary district regulations of chapter 110 zoning uh of the land development regulations by creating division 16 certified recovery residences, providing for definitions, providing for procedures for the review and approval of certified recovery residences, providing for request for
reasonable accommodations, providing for revocation of reasonable accommodations, providing for codification, servability, and an effective date. That was a reading of resolution. I'm sorry, ordinance 2025-20. It's the first reading by title only. Remember that this is an ordinance that
was is basically required to be adopted because of the fact that um there was a law enacted during the last legislative session and the law specifically provides I'll just read this by January 1st, 2026, the governing body of each
county or municipality shall adopt an ordinance establishing procedures for the review and approval of certified recovery residences within its jurisdiction. The ordinance must include a process for requesting reasonable accommodations from any local land use regulation that serves to prohibit the
establishment of a certified recovery residence. So, it's required by statute. Uh we've drafted the ordinance. I would bring to your attention there are two technical um additions that uh that we have added uh that are not in the
statute and they are on page 127 of your packet or page five of seven of the ordinance. Um, and that's paragraphs D4 and D5. D4 requires a survey of the property be provided to the city with the application and uh D5 requires a
scale drawing showing all the proposed site development on the property uh with the application as well. So, it's here uh for public hearing and approval. One thing I would like to add, we brought this to the planning commission and one thing they had requested
clarification on is because they're varying levels of the recovery residences. We did confirm the permit application if we do receive one is specific to that level and if a level was to change then we would have to go through the permit process again. So
what we're going to do is once we create there they reference a form in here that will have to be submitted to the community development department and within that form we will reiterate that any level changes will require to revisit the the permitting process. >> Do we have any public comment
commission comments or questions? >> U can you remind me again how many levels are there in the uh recovery program? >> There's four. >> There's four. Okay. I just have a question.
Um, can this be restricted to short to um I don't know what the zoning districts are. R R1 that's more like um weekly rentals or nightly rentals areas that have shortterm rentals already approved
and can can you be restricted within so that I and I may have this wrong R3 that's six months right? So R R1 is the long-term. You have to have long-term R. >> I have it flipped. >> Yeah. Okay. R2 is minimum of three. I mean R2. Yeah. R2 is minimum three.
>> So R3 would be the one that has a short-term rental. >> Correct. >> Because I wouldn't have a problem with this within areas that we already have short-term rentals. My my issue is where that's not allowed where you have a six month or three month rental. So I don't know if that can be written into the
ordinance that we write. So we're allowing it. We're but we're not allowing it throughout the entire city. >> I think that would be a legal question for Tom based on >> So I don't really know the answer to the question other than um even if it was
not allowed in particular areas they would have the ability to ask for an accommodation. That's the whole purpose of the statute is to allow um these types of recovery residences to be placed in the city. The statute was adopted specifically because small cities or even larger cities have
shunned these types of facilities and the Florida Florida uh legislature and the governor believes it's very very important. Um that's why they've codified it and required us to adopt it. So I wouldn't want us to get us into a position where we've made it so difficult to have one of these
residences in the city um that were found to be in violation of the statute. So, I I would not recommend that you add any additional qualifications on these homes because they're basically like any other group home that you have in the
city. It's just for a different purpose. So, >> but it also goes against the rental policy that was established decades ago. I I would foresee that the rental of the
property would probably be for the longer term, but like Traskin described previously, you would just have residents coming and going. If you have a three-bedroom house, then those three bedrooms would be occupied by whoever at whatever time, but I would foresee the rental aspect of that still would have
to meet our our code requirements. So, they may rent it still for a year, but you wouldn't be able to control how they come and go. the people who live within the home, if that makes sense. That's that's kind of what I think we're up against here is they may very well have a much longer lease on the property.
>> I mean, if our hands are tied and the state say we need to do it or we're subject to not getting state funding or grants or whatever, then we would have to vote for it. But I'm just trying to figure out if there's a way to
have both. >> Understood. And I that it's that it's you know yeah over 50% of the >> city we allow it but you have to I don't know that's just I don't want to see
neighborhoods broken up over this that's all >> I'm not aware of any application that the city's received during my entire tenure at the city of MadiRaa Beach so I'm not sure that this is such a big issue >> but u >> just voicing the concern that's all
>> and I Understand. I understand. I just don't know how that, you know, if it hasn't been a concern so far, us creating a process to allow for it. It I don't think it would change anything other than if you're going to do it, this is the process that you need
to go through versus willy-nilly coming to the city and saying, "I'm going to build one of these things here, or I'm going to lease one of these things here." This creates a process for us to review it at least. Any additional comments?
>> Do we have a motion? >> I'd like to make a motion, mayor, to adopt U ordinance 20 U 2025-20 um with the additional requirements of D4 and D5.
>> Do we have a second? >> Second. City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Gavayi, >> yes. >> Commissioner Taglerini, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Mayor Brooks, >> yes.
>> The motion carry 5 to zero. >> Next on the agenda is ABP 2025-06, Docside Dave's Restaurant, City Attorney. >> Yes. I just remind you the next three items on your agenda are all quasi judicial hearings. So there is a process
that we need to follow pursuant to your code and I'm going to lead you through that process. On the first application um which is ABP 2025-06 Doside Dave's Restaurant, the property is located at 14701 through 1473 Gulf
Boulevard. Uh summary of the application um is that pursuant to um land development code article 6 division 6 alcoholic beverages the applicant for the AP 2025-06 is seeking a quota for cop alcoholic beverage
license for the sale of beer, wine, and liquor for consumption on premises at Docside Dave's Restaurant located at 14701 Gulf Boulevard and 1473 Gulf Boulevard here in Mader Beach. This application is being made pursuant to section 110-534
uh change of alcoholic beverage uh zoning because the applicants request a change from a special food service establishment for cop alcoholic beverage license to a quota for cop alcoholic beverage license. The standards to be applied and I'm only
going to read the this once but we're going to use the same standards for all three of these cases. That'll shorten our little time to go through this if you don't mind. So the standards are under section 110-532. When considering the alcoholic beverage application, the board of commissioners
shall consider the following factors. Number one, the extent to which the location and the extent to which the proposed alcoholic beverage request will adversely affect the character of the existing neighborhood. Number two, the extent to which traffic generated as a result of the location of the proposed alcoholic beverage request will create
congestion or present a safety hazard. Number three, whether or not the proposed use is compatible with the particular location for which it is proposed. Number four, whether or not the proposed use will adversely affect the public safety. And the last factor
is um that no application for review under this section shall be considered until the applicant is paid in full any outstanding charges, fees, interest, fines, or penalties owed by the applicant to the city under any section of the code. Uh the burden of proof as
required by uh section 2-10 of your code reads as follows. The applicant shall have the burden of proof at the hearing to show by a greater weight of the evidence the application is consistent with the city's comprehensive plan and complies with all procedural
requirements of law. conditions may be suggested by the applicant, the city or any party or may be imposed by the board which are intended to asssure consistency and compliance. The parties in this case since there have been no u
notices of intent uh to become an effective uh party filed in this case there's only two parties the city and doside Dave's real estate LLC. the order of the presentation. Since there are only two parties, the city is going to present first and then docside Daves will have an opportunity to do
that. So I need now read to you the quasi judicial rules and procedures. This is a quasicial proceeding where the board of commissioners in a quas is acts in a quasudicial rather than a legislative capacity. At this hearing,
it is not the board's function to make law, but rather to apply law that has already been established. Uh in this hearing, the board is required by law to make findings of fact based upon the evidence presented at the hearing and apply those findings of fact to previously established criteria
contained in the code of ordinances in order to make a legal decision regarding the application before it. The board may only consider evidence that this hearing that the law considers competent, substantial, and relevant to the issues. If that competent, substantial and relevant evidence at the hearing
demonstrates the applicant has met the criteria established in the code of ordinances, then the board is required by law to find in favor of the applicant. By the same token, if the competent, substantial, and relevant evidence of the hearing demonstrates the applicant has failed to meet the criteria established in the code of ordinances, then the board is required
by law to find against the applicant. So now I need to ask each and every one of you whether or not you do you need to disclose any experte communications that you've had with the applicant or anyone else. Does anyone need to disclose any
of those communications? No. >> I'm seeing all the shaking. No. U any conflicts of interest that any of the board of commissioners need to disclose? I'm seeing no. Okay. At this point, I need to swear in all witnesses. So, anyone that's going to speak on this
agenda item, if you could stand up, raise your right hand. I'm going to swear you're under oath. Is there Okay. Anyone here for Docside Daves? Okay. You swear the testimony you're about to give is going to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Okay. Thank you very much. So, with his
witnesses sworn in, um, the city can go ahead and proceed. Andrew, are you going to be making this presentation? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. We need to get that mic on. >> It should be on now. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um, when considering the alcoholic
beverage license application, the board of commissioner shall consider the following factors. The first one is the extent to which the location and extent to which the proposed alcoholic beverage request will adversely affect the character of the existing neighborhood. Docside days is proposing to change from a special food service establishment for
COP alcoholic beverage license to a quota for COP alcoholic beverage license. quota for COP alcoholic beverage license uh does not require a percentage of gross food and beverage revenue to come from non-alcoholic items and uh it does not require a minimum
number of physical seats. The special food service establishment for COP license requires a minimum number of 120 physical seats and uh 51% of the gross food and beverage revenue to come from non-alcoholic items. Doside Daves still
plans to operate as a restaurant, but would uh not be required to meet the seating and food sale requirements of the previous license. This proposed change will not have a negative impact on the existing neighborhood character since the applicant proposes to continue to operate as a restaurant. The existing
neighborhood is mostly commercial or multif family uses and the existing restaurant always already has a special food service establishment for COP alcoholic beverage license to serve beer, wine and liquor on on the premises. Additionally, the Reef Bar and Grill uh located adjacent to this
property already serves liquor. Um the next one is the extent to which uh traffic generated as a result of the location of the proposed alcoholic beverage request will create congestion or present a safety hazard. As proposed, the quota for COP alcoholic beverage license use does not present a safety
hazard or lead to additional congestion. Doside Daves does meet the parking requirements of the city's land development regulations when the five off-site shared parking spaces are included in their total parking count. The off-site shared parking spaces will be for employees only and all proposed
parking on site will accommodate customers based on the number of seats indicated in the approved site plan provided. If the property of the offsite shared parking is redeveloped, oxide days would be out of compliance with the city's parking regulations unless they found additional uh parking. Uh attached
to the memo is a copy of the off-site shared parking agreement. Um there um the one attached to was a was a draft one uh a attorney Tras and there um
they they worked on a a a revised share of parking agreement based on um so it's it's there are some differences um and and if the alcohol license is approved they would be uh they would
need to record it into the uh uh Penelis County uh records. Tom, do you have anything to say about the shared parking agreement? >> I'll let you finish your uh No problem. Your presentation and then I'll address those issues. >> Okay. Thank you. Um and then under uh
figure one is a a screenshot of Docside Day's parking requirements from their approved site plan. The next one is whether or not the proposed use is compatible with the particular location for which it is proposed. The pros change in alcohol beverage license juice is compatible with this location since docside days would continue to be a
restaurant. Nearby businesses like the reef bar and grill or reserve liquor. Doxide days would continue to focus on food and the alcoholic beverages would complement the food. Whether or not the proposed use would adversely affect public safety. Public safety should not be adversely affected by doxy days restaurant. Changing from a special food
service establishment for cop alcoholic beverage license to a quota for cop alcoholic beverage license. The restaurant is more than 500 feet away from any established church, synagogue, temple, or place of religious worship, public or private school operated for the instruction of minors or youth recreation, community center. The 500
foot requirement is a minimum distance required for bars and clubs located in the C3 zone district and uh does not need to be met for restaurants. Stocks like Days is classified as a restaurant. The next one is no application for review under this section shall be considered until the applicant has paid in full any out outstanding charges,
fees, interest, fines, or penalties owed by the applicant to the city under any section code. The applicant has no outstanding fines or penalties owed to the city under any section of the code. And then uh under staff recommendation, staff recommends the approval of ABP 2025-06 with the following conditions.
The applicant must maintain a minimum of five parking spaces offsite. If there's a change to the existing contract, uh, docide days will need to submit a revised contract and site plan showing where the new parking spaces would be located. Uh, per the attached site plan
sheet SP 1.0, the area labeled no open entertainment space permitted cannot be utilized for additional seating, standing space, or open entertainment space with the exception of the applicant applying for a special events permit as defined in article 2 special
events. Attached is there a local application um previous draft of their parking agreement now and the public notice mailing and posting and attach your local application is the approved site plan.
You have any additional questions I'm happy to answer them or before we get to questions you want uh the your staff uh memorandum and attachments to be received into evidence correct? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. All right. So, any questions from the commission about the presentation
that Mr. Morris cave. >> I have one question. Um, how come we don't have scale drawing as a part of this package? It's all seem to be blown up and mixed copies and
this doesn't it it's not doesn't look like a fullsight plan. So, so it it because it's in this agenda packet, it it shrunk down the side. So,
if we pulled this up in in Blue Beam, it would be to a full scale site plan. It just it doesn't it it shrunk it down to fit on the on the in the agenda packet. And I think like actually look looking on the PDF, it's it's pretty large, but
the the printer like auto like they shrunk it. So staff's approved is approving the site plan. You know that there's plenty of handicap spaces accessibility to the I mean none of that that I would be interested in is shown
here. So I'm I'm just going to depend on you to have looked at it and have been okay with it. >> Correct. So as separately with this, they've obviously been doing the remodeling work and during that review process, they've met all they've met the parking requirements on site, including handicap and then of course they have
the additional five spots offsite which will be utilized um by staff. But yes, during our original site plan review for their permitted work, we have reviewed all of that. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions from commission? Okay, there being no other questions,
sir, do you have any questions of Mr. Morris about his testimony? Okay. No. The city have any other witnesses that you wanted to call? Andrew? No, >> I'm good. >> Okay. So, now it would be appropriate for the applicant to step forward and make any presentation that he would like
to make. Sir, if you could come forward, state your name, your relationship to the property, and the application, and any other information you want the commission to know. >> Brandon Iserio doides. I'm the owner. Um, Commissioner, it's awesome to see
you again. And mayor, it's good to see you. Uh, Marcy and Andrew, thank you for helping me with everything so far. They've been awesome. They've been really good. Um, I don't think I have any questions, but if you have any questions for me, I'd be gladly. >> Any questions for Mr. Nazario?
>> I do. Um, can I ask So, I want to ask questions about the recommendations staff made to us in approving. Okay. >> Absolutely. >> So, there are two recommendations that staff made. One was that you maintain the five parking spaces offsite and the second is the no open entertainment
space permitted. So in reviewing the drawings um it's very specific where you can't have open entertainment. So I'm curious, are you going to have entertainment, live entertainment? And and I'm if I'm
reading it correctly, the only place you can do that is in the new small building. There's a very small square area that says entertainment. >> Yes. >> So, there won't be any entertainment outside or um Okay. The reason I bring that up, Commissioner Taglerini, is when
we've discussed the noise ordinance and talked about um if we're approving things that are outside of the noise ordinance, how are we maintaining that? And this is a great example um for you. So, okay, I have a question for you, but I should wait till I'm done with him.
Um, so all if you're done with your questions, any of the uh commissioners have questions of the applicant? I'm seeing no. Okay. So I'd be happy to answer any questions you have. >> Okay. So this is my question. >> So um in the past when the commission
has approved things, there would be conditions placed on it and then those conditions go away after a period of time. So that I understand um it's very defined that they can't
have open entertainment outside. Do we need to memorialize that in some other fashion than it just being part of the approval so that it's enforcable for years to come or I mean is that something that should be a concern or a conversation? Um well well first of all
the the city should be every at at the end of each one of these hearings the city should be issuing a letter saying your application has been approved or denied >> right >> your application has been approved uh with the following conditions and and that is the documentation and they the conditions don't go away
>> okay so >> if in this particular case um they failed to have the five off-site parking spaces I would think that uh city staff would immediately bring it back to you to have you revoke that alcoholic beverage permit because that was a condition of the permit. Um so um the
contract there was a question by Mr. Morris about that. I just want to address the parking agreement. Right now your code is very specific as to what needs to be in that parking agreement. So, I I uh worked with
the property owner and the parking lot um um leasing agent and their attorneys to develop a parking agreement. Um it has they have met all the terms that I requested in the agreement.
Specifically, what I was concerned about is what happens if the the lease agreement goes away? Well, there's a legal obligation on Mr. Nazario and his company to immediately notify the city
that either the underlying agreement or his agreement has been terminated. Um, once that notice is brought to you and he doesn't have the ability to get the five spaces again somewhere else, then obviously you would want to address the alcoholic beverage permit. But the
agreement will be recorded in the public records. So it will become uh like a deed being recorded and it is an obligation of the property owner and the parking agreement company or the parking company and uh dockside Daves. So I think that we've covered all the issues.
There's no way we can draft such an agreement that makes them never make those parking spaces go away. Um, but he's done as best that he can do to get these spaces under this agreement and and I I believe the agreement meets the
requirements of the code. And so this is the agreement that would be attached to that letter that I was just mentioning to you as being a condition. >> So, >> and and because I brought up the the entertainment thing, I I did want to say that my understanding is they can get
special event permits to have entertainment outside. >> That's what the condition is. Yes. >> Yes. I just wanted to be sure I said that because >> Okay. Awesome. >> Okay. If there's uh no other testimony from either the city or uh the
applicant, um I would want to open it up to the public for um anyone to speak. So have a seat. Thank you. Um anyone in from the public want to step forward? Mr. Dylan, did you want something to say? Okay. Chuck Dale and Lillian Drive. It's great
to see the city finally coming back. This is one of the many steps this and the other two things about bringing the city back to life and uh getting food back in our city so we don't have to go other places. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Any any other um public comment? >> All right. There's no other public comment. Comes back to the commission for consideration of the application. There should be a motion to approve and you can vote it up or down. The motion to approve should include the conditions that are last listed by staff recommendation.
I make I'll make a motion to approve ABP 2025-06 Stockside Dave's restaurant with the including the um special circumstances with the parking lot.
You just need to move staff recommendation of the two conditions. >> Staff recommend recommendations of the two conditions. >> Okay. >> Second. >> City clerk, would you call the role?
>> Commissioner McGee? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Gavay? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Tagarini? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr? >> Yes. >> Mayor Brooks? >> Yes. The motion carried five to zero. >> All right. Thank you. >> I think I can say for everybody, we're
super excited for them to open and I speak on behalf of myself, the commission, and many, many, many visitors that come to our city. It's probably one of the number one questions I see on social media is when is Docside Daves going to open? So, thank you staff
because I know you all worked very hard to help them um be in the position they are to open. So, we're super excited for that. And and Brandon's been a consmate professional throughout this. Um he's been thrown a lot of stuff that he's had to learn, but
he's been very receptive. And um once he kind of understood where we were trying to go with it, he was he was really receptive to it. And you couldn't have a better commission. Um McGee had reached out to me a couple times about it. So, um just making sure you were on track. So, we're excited about his too and agree it's a a monumental opening to say
that the city is recovering and getting back on our feet. I 100% agree. >> Next on the agenda is AB2025-07 John's Pass Convenience Store and Rentals. City Attorney. >> Thank you, Mayor Commissioners. This the applicant in this case is Corey Jennings
and Coastal Rise LLC. Uh the address of the property is 13045 G Boulevard. There are no notices of intent uh by persons seeking to be an affected party. A summary of the application is that pursuant to land development code
article 6 division 6 alcoholic beverages, the applicant for a 2025-07 is requesting authorization from the board of commissioners for the approval of a package sales to APS alcohol and beverage license for the sale of beer and wine package sales for off- premises
consumption at John's Pass Convenience Store and Reynolds at 13045 G Boulevard here in Madiraa Beach. Um, I've already gone over the standards. We're not going to repeat them. They're the same as the last case. The burden of proof is the same as the last case.
Since there are no affected parties, the only parties are the city, Mr. Jennings, and Coastal Rise LLC. Uh the city will therefore present first. Um and I've already read the quasi judicial procedures. They're the same for this
case. Question to each one of you. Any experty communications that need to be disclosed? >> No. No. Any conflicts of interest that need to be disclosed? >> No. >> No. All right. I need to swear in all witnesses. Um, city staff's already been sworn in. So, if there's anybody in the
public or the applicant here for this application, you can stand up, raise your right hand, and be sworn under oath. Are you here for this application? No. Okay. I guess the applicant's not here. Staff's already been sworn. So, um, Andrew, are you handling this one?
>> Okay. You can go ahead and proceed then. >> Okay. Thank you. Um the extent to which the location and the extent to which the proposed alcoholic beverage requests will adversely affect the character of the existing neighborhood traditional village character district or the John's Pest Village Activity
Center is focused on commercial uses to cater to both residents and visitors. A convenience store selling beer and wine would be a compatible use for the location. The proposed alcohol use would not adversely affect the character of the existing neighborhood. There are nearby businesses that have various types of alcoholic beverage licenses.
The next set of criteria is the extent to which traffic generated as a result of the location of the proposed alcoholic beverage requests will create congestion or present a safety hazard. The traditional village character district of the John's Pass Village Activity Center is a walkable commercial
area where customers can walk between their shopping and eating destinations. This establishment is in the John's Pass Village parking area listed in section 110 954 special parking areas. The proposed alcoholic beverage license use
would not create additional congestion or present a safety hazard. John's Fest Convenience Store was previously located along Fisherman's Alley. Their previous store was damaged during Hurricane Helen. At the previous location of the John's Best Convenience Store, they did have a package sales to APS alcoholic
beverage license. The proposed alcoholic beverage license would be the same level of intensity and not generate additional traffic more than their previous location. The applicant clarified that their lease includes two parking spaces. One space would be uh used for employee parking.
The other space would be used for customer parking. Since the establishment is located in the special parking area, the proposed parking will be sufficient. uh whether or not the proposed use is compatible with the particular location for which it is proposed. A convenience store would be a compatible use in this
location since it is a commercial use and would be near other commercial uses. Many of the the nearby tenants have various types of alcohol beverage licenses. The structure that the establishment is located in has previously had other commercial tenants. The proposed use is compatible with the
location. The next is whether or not the proposed use will firstly affect the public safety. Public safety should not be adversely affected by the John's best convenience store rental selling beer and wine. Package sales for off premises consumption. The convenience store is more than 500 feet away from any
establishment established church, synagogue, temple or place of religious worship, public or private school operate for the instruction miners or youth recreation community center. There are business nearby that already sell alcoholic beverages.
Um, the applicant has no outstanding fines or penalties owed to the city under any section of the code. And under recommendations, city staff recommends the approval of ABP 2025-07, John's Pass Convenience Store and Rentals. Attached is the local application
and the mailing and uh posting notices that were that were done um 15 days out. Um, that's the conclusion of my uh uh presentation and >> you're asking that uh your the
memorandum your staff report and the application and all the attachments be received into evidence. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Any questions of Mr. Morris from the commission? Seeing none. Okay. The applicant's not here. So, it kind of
shortens what we have to do. Is anybody from the public want to address this application? Not seeing one there. So, it's back before the commission for your consideration of the ation as presented without the applicant. >> I don't have any.
>> I have a question. Are the parking spaces existing? Are all of them already striped? Because dimensionally none of them works when you look at >> I mean I think they they've been there for a very long time. It's one of those
kind of older legally non-conforming structures that um have kind of oddly shaped parking spots. Obviously, if they ever redeveloped the site, they would have to relate to this alcohol per like it would it'd have to be br compliance,
but as it st I mean it's just existing stuff. So, >> just from public safety, um I would be concern concerned about cars that cannot really back out. There's not
enough space between the between the parking spaces and the drive aisle to at a 90 degree angle to back out. It appears minimal. But if it is what it is, it's been like that, no striping, restriping, then I guess we have to live
with the situation. >> Yeah, this came with um this was not part of any other permit or site plan review or anything like that. This is strictly just adding the sale of alcohol. So it for us it doesn't trigger for this request it wouldn't trigger us to make them become like fully compliant. Um unless they wanted to if
they started to stripe or touch the parking lot at that point in time then we would it would trigger the full compliance. But at this point in time we have nothing before us that they're they'll be doing any site work like that. >> So so so what they're requesting doesn't require additional parking >> as the convenience store of the
>> Yeah. It doesn't require additional parking and it's in a special parking area and the store is like 300 square feet. It's very very little store. So, but the two two spaces that are that the applicant said in the email are are
sufficient. >> Thank you. >> Okay. It's up to the commission decide whether you want to approve the application. I recommend the approval of APB ABP 202507
John's Bass Convenience Store and Rentals. >> I'll second. >> City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Taglerini, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Kerr, >> yes. >> Commissioner McGee, >> yes. >> Commissioner Gavay, >> yes.
>> Mayor Brooks, >> yes. >> The motion carry 5 to zero. Next on the agenda is ABP2025-08 Broken Board Bar and Grill City Attorney. >> So, um
I'm not going to even try to say this name. Um I will have the applicant step forward and say his name, but Dejetto maybe first name. Um but this is for the property located at 15015 Madira Way
sweet 100. A summary of the application is uh pursuant to the land development code article 6 division 6 uh alcoholic beverages. The applicant A 2025 to08 is requesting authorization from the board of commissioners for the approval of a
special food service establishment for COP alcohol called beverage license with stated intent to sell beer, wine, and liquor for the consumption on premises at Broke and Board Bar and Grill located at 15015 um Dear Way sweet 100 here in MadiRaa
Beach. Um the standards to be applied are the ones that I mentioned in the first two cases. They're still the same. The burden of proof is the same. Um the there are no affected parties that have filed notices of intent. So the only parties are the applicant and the city.
Um the city should present first. Um I've already read the quasi judicial procedures. They are the same for this case as the last two. I need to ask each and every commissioner any exparty communications that you need to disclose. >> No. >> No. Any conflicts of interest that need
to be disclosed? >> No. >> No. >> All right. I need to swear in any witnesses other than city staff. Were you already sworn in earlier, sir? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, so now is for Well, first of all, can you tell us how to say the
name? Cetto Djiraay. Lj U LJ DJ U R AJ. All right. So, that's why I didn't pronounce it. >> When I was born, they had J's on sale, so I bought a couple of more. >> You've got a lot of them there. All right. We're going to have you hang on
right there. But, um, city staff needs to go ahead and make its presentation and we'll ask you to participate. >> Okay. So, when considering the alcoholic beverage license application, the board commissioner shall consider the following factors. the extent to which the location and the
extent to which the proposed alcoholic beverage requests will adversely affect the character of the existing neighborhood. The property has the future land use designation and plan redevelopment mixeduse and is surrounded by other properties with this future land use designation. The plan redevelopment mixeduse future land use
designation is given the properties located within the Madira beach town center special area plan. This property is in in the commercial core district of the Madiraa Beach Town Center special area plan. This district supports commercial uses and commercial mixed uses that are walkable. There are other nearby businesses that sell alcoholic
beverages. A restaurant that serves beer and wine liquor would be an acceptable use for the property and would not adversely affect the character of the existing neighborhood. Uh properties located within the madira beach. The extent to which traffic generated as a result of location of the proposed
alcohol beverage request will create congestion or present a safety hazard. Properties located within the Mader Town Center special area plan have a reduced parking requirement that is 50% less than other areas of Madir Beach. The restaurant is attached to a hotel structure that has a parking garage. The property has sufficient parking for both
the hotel and restaurant uses. The traffic generated from this proposed alcohol beverage request would not create congestion or present a safety hazard. Um whether or not the proposed use is compatible with the particular location for which it is proposed. Uh
Don, the beach comer was previously using this location and had the same type of alcoholic beverage license. The proposed alcoholic beverage license use would be compatible with existing structure and with the zoning and future land use designation for the property. The property is not located within 500 ft of a church, synagogue, temple or
place of religious worship, public or private school operated or the instruction miners or youth recreation community center. Whether or not the proposed use will adversely affect public safety. The requested license is not anticipated to adversely affect
public safety for the special food service establishment for COP alcoholic beverage license. The state of Florida requires at least 51% of gross food and beverage sale revenue to come from the sale of food and non-alco non-alcoholic beverages. The previous tenant on the
beachr had a special food service establishment for COB license. Pros alcoholic beverage license request would not adversely affect public safety more than the previously approved alcoholic beverage license use at this location. Um the applicant does not owe any outstanding charges, fees, interest,
fines, or penalties to the city. And under recommendation, city staff recommends approval of ABP 2025-08 broken board bar and grill. Attached is the local application. Um they're um proposing they keep the
same amount of seating as the as the previous ten tenant did. Um and then also attached is the public not mailing notice postings. >> Okay. And you're asking that your um memorandum, your staff report, and the all the attachments be received into
evidence? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Any questions from the commissioners, the mayor to about Mr. Moors's testimony? Not seeing any. Okay. Sir, do you have any questions uh we call cross-examination of Mr. Morris about any of the testimony
that he's given today? Any questions of Mr. Morris? >> No, sir. >> Okay. City have any other witnesses? No. Okay. So, sir, now is your opportunity to make any presentation that you want to the commission. Tell them anything
you need. Um >> well the um the place is not changing anything pretty much the way it was. >> You can direct your comments to the commission. >> Okay. The place is not changing anything
from what it was before. All we doing is maybe better food and u pretty much doing whatever they were doing before like a bar, restaurant. We
we will use the patio. As far as entertainment, we will have um pretty much uh with the city's guidelines. We're not going to go till 6:00 in the morning or anything like
that, but we will uh follow the city rules to the time that the city allows it. Uh we not want some kind of uh place I had it in I had a place in
Indian shores. We never had issues. I have still one in red shores. Never an issue. So, I don't think you guys going to have an issue with me. I'm not a troublemaker, but any questions you guys have for me,
I'm here to address it to the best of my knowledge. Any questions from the commission? Um I I just want to say in the prior restaurant that was there, there were noise issues uh from the out that I mean it's was a wonderful nice setup uh and
their outdoor patio. There's there's condos right next to it >> and there were times you could drive through the intersection and hear uh music. I just uh I wonder if you're sensitive to that situation and if you have any plans to I mean they were more or less in our ordinances but they
pushed it to the limit it seemed like. Um do you have any thoughts on that? >> There will no there will be no issues with that. >> Uh are uh in the outside mostly it's going to be piano
um type slow. >> It's volume the value >> I guess not genre. >> It's not it's not going to be any issues. >> Right. >> Thanks. I look forward to visiting your restaurant. >> Thank you. We'd be glad to have you.
>> If there are no other questions from the commission, um I'm going to open it up to the public. Is there anyone in the public in the audience today that wants to go ahead and Okay, Mr. Dylan. Sir, thank you. Mr. Dylan, you've already been sworn under oath. You don't need to be sworn again. Okay.
>> Well, I'd have to say if it is the same business that's up north, they have delicious food and I'm looking forward to them also. And hopefully you can keep 5,000 square ft going. There hasn't been many hotel or restaurants there that can keep the business. So, but good luck to
you. And if they are related, it's delicious food. Looking forward to it. Okay. Anyone else from the public want to address the commission? Okay. So, now it's back to the commission for consideration of this
application. I'm I mean I'm in favor of it. >> Yeah, I would tend to follow the city staff recommendation. >> Yep. >> Do we have a motion? >> I move the approval of ABP 2025-08 broken board bar and grill.
>> Do we have a second? City clerk, would you call the role, please? >> Commissioner Tagarini. >> Yes. >> Commissioner McGee. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Gavay. Yes, >> Vice Mayor Kerr. >> Yes, >> Mayor Brooks. >> Yes.
>> The motion carried five to zero. >> Moving on. We have no unfinished business or contracts agreements. There is no new business. So, we move to the agenda setting for January 28th, 2026 BOC regular workshop at two. I have
three things that were in our earlier discussion to bring back, which would be an update for the parking garage, the jetty, and then the piece of property that Vice Mayor Kerr mentioned um wanting us all to review. If we could
briefly touch on those three items, >> Mayor, there's one additional one. The city has received a request for a fine reduction for code enforcement lean on the property located at 703 Sunset Cove. Um I believe that you've all received
the memorandum with a little bit of backup on it. So I'd like to add that to the agenda as well on January 28 if that is acceptable. And remember the process is to review it at the workshop and then act upon it at a regular meeting. Okay.
>> Anything additional. >> Thank you. >> Next on the agenda is reports and correspondence. Board of Commissioners reports and correspondence. Does anyone have >> Mayor I do have a correspondence? >> Yes, please.
>> Um I'm I'm I'm uncomfortable with this. Uh so forgive me if I read a lot. Uh, mayor and fellow commissioners, I'm bringing this to you under the communications because sorry, I hear uh
I'm bringing this to you under communications because I received an email from Mr. Tras regarding an ongoing complaint against my campaign finances of two years ago. Uh the email reads in part, "The email below discusses your entitlement to be reimbursed for legal
fees for an ethics complaint. The charter does not mention reimbursement for legal fees for an election camp matter. I apologize for mixing these two topics and leading you to believe your election complaint fees are reimburseable by the city. They are not
reimbursible. Let me know if you have any questions. So before I get to the gist of this, I want to provide some background to help you understand the complaint to which this email is referring. Uh on April 7th, 2023, a year
after I was elected, roughly, I received notification that a complaint had been filed against me stating that I was in violation of Florida's election laws by John Hendris, former mayor of Madiraa Beach. The complaint included 24 alleged violations.
22 of the violations were because no occupation was listed for the contributor. However, in each of the 22 cases, the contribution was $100 or less. And according to form DS-DE13, instructions under item 8 states,
occupation of contributions over $100 only. Each of these donations was $100 or less. So those 22 items were invalid. One item stated that there was no address listed for a contributor of $20. This was a mistake on my part. However,
the report was amended on January 16th, 2022, more than a year before the complaint was made. So now 23 of the 24 items have been corrected. The 24th item was that my final summary did not reconcile. And at one time that was
true. Um, however, the final report was submitted before the deadline. I turned it in on time. However, it happened to be shortly before I left for a one-month planned vacation out of the country. It was my intention to correct the
difference upon my return to the US. But frankly, my first year on this board was a whirlwind. And to be honest, life got in the way and I put it off for several months. Several months later, upon reviewing my note, reviewing my notes, I was reminded that I needed to amend my
report so that it was reconciled. I found my error and submitted a reconciled report before I received the complaint. Full disclosure, the reason for my error was my misunderstanding of the way GoFundMe works. I used GoFundMe
to raise the majority of my money, my my campaign funds. I'd never used this source for anything in the past. And to summarize, I subtracted the GoFundMe fees twice. Once I discovered the error, my report balanced to the penny. The short story of this situation is
that every alleged violation on the complaint was invalid by the time I received the complaint, and many of the items were invalid before any amendments were necessary. They were just false accusations. I'm not sure why John Hendricks chose to
make this complaint, but I will say that my time on this board with him was most unpleasant. On the day of my swearing in with my friends and family present to help me celebrate what should have been a proud day for me, John Hendricks welcomed me to the board by saying, "I can already see the wasteful spending."
And that comment set the tone for my first year on the board. I received the complaint about a year after I had started serving on the board. I emailed attorney Tras for his advice on what my next step should be and I asked if he could advise me. He
informed me that he could not not represent me which made sense but he gave me the contact information of a lawyer he recommended. I sent Mr. Tras a detailed account of the nature of the complaint as well as the complaint itself and asked him if he would be able
if the city would be able to cover my legal fees. Mr. Tras responded, "I've attached section 5.3 of the charter. prohibits me from representing an elected official in a Florida commission on ethics proceedings. I would recommend that you retain etc. He made a
recommendation and I said uh later I asked him this will the city cover my fees. He said the city charter provides that you are entitled to have your attorney's fees paid by the city. Please consult with consult with the city manager on how he
will be handling that. Based on that response I contacted Mr. Gomez and asked what I needed and he said to get something in writing from the lawyer regarding his fees. Contacted the lawyer recommended my Mr. Trask and he emailed me an outline of what his services would
cost. I forwarded that to Mr. Gomez and his response was please have him send the invoices to and he gave the city address attention to himself. This all happened April of 2023, two years ago roughly. I've heard nothing
from the city during that time regarding fees and all I've heard from my lawyer is that these things take time. On December 1st of this year, I received the email from Mr. Tra stating in part, the charter does not mention
reimbursement for legal fees for an electric election complaint. I apologize for this is what I read at the beginning. I apologize for mixing these two topics leading you to believe your election campaign fees are reversible by the city. They're not reimbursable. The
the the key words there are election complaint versus ethics complaint. I submitted the actual complaint which says elections. And when Mr. Trash said ethics, I didn't question it. I I don't I thought maybe that's what an ethics you he's a legal
expert and I I'm and I honest I I believe that an honest mistake was made. So, at this point, I'm asking, in short, I'm I'm as being asked to reimburse the city for legal fees, which apparently have been acrewing for the last two years in the amount of roughly $600.
Had I known that I would be responsible for these fees two years ago when this complaint was filed, I probably would not have retained a lawyer because, as I've said, the complaint was filed using false accusations, which I felt any reasonable elections board would see and
close the case. What I'm asking to bringing to the board today is that I I'd ask that the board allow the city manager to authorize payment of my legal fees at least up to this point as I was led to believe would be my right and was promised to be by
the previous city manager. I will take responsibility from this point on for any fees that I might incur. Thank you for your consideration. >> Could I can I just jump in? Um uh the
commissioner is absolutely correct on the background. I think I've got a solution for this. Um I'll just give a credit to the city for the value of the attorney's fees so that there doesn't have to be an issue with
the commission considering his uh commissioner tag's request. So, whatever the value is of that invoice, which I think is in the $600 range, I'll just give you give the city a credit for that since I think it's already been paid. Um, and then we can it's it's a
non-issue at this point. So, if that's an acceptable solution, because I really don't think that it's appropriate for the commission to authorize the payment of the attorney's fees um because I failed to see that there is a public
purpose for that and I don't want the city to be placed into a position where Commissioner Taglerini to have that issue come up in a later complaint. So, um the city's already paid it. I'll give a credit to the city for that dollar amount and I think that that addresses
the issue if that's acceptable to Commissioner Tagler and the and the commission. >> $630 total. >> So I'll give you a credit on your next bill for $630. Is that acceptable? >> Yes, sir. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Very much. >> Yeah.
>> Do we have any public comment? >> So this is Do we need to We don't need to vote on this then. >> You don't need to do anything >> future meeting, do we? >> No. Commissioners, do you have any comments? I don't have any comments. Thank you.
Next is the board of commissioners 2026 BOC meeting schedule. Did everyone review it and have any need for changes? Good. Then next on the agenda is the board of commissioners 2025 BOC annual meetings
report. >> This was just for information purposes. >> Thank you, Clara. I look forward to this. I like it. It puts everything we've done together. And also I'm going to start adding each month um the city the U board of
commissioners budget and what your balance is each month and your expenditures and I think that should go in your report. >> Thank you Claire. >> Do we have any public comment? >> Next on the agenda is city clerk.
>> Yes. Um the qualifying period for the March 10th, 2026 municipal election will end on this Friday, uh March the 12th at noon. Um there's three candidates have
qualified so far and they have come in and one was David Taglerini. He qu uh qualified for commissioner district one. So commissioner district one and two are up for election for March. And then um
incumbent Ray Kerr, he qualified for Commissioner District 2. And Chuck Dylan came in and qualified for Commissioner District Two. So if somebody comes in tomorrow, they'll still have time to qualify, but they have to have it done
by noon on Friday and that's it. That's all I have to say. I look forward to the election. get it get trash the draft ordinance coming up for the procedures and who's on the ballot and take it from there. Do you have any
public comment commissioners? Any comments? I would just like to say um before we adjourn um merry Christmas to everyone out there that's watching all of our MadiRaa Beach
residents and happy holidays and we'll see you at the boat parade on Sunday. >> Saturday. >> Saturday. >> Saturday. >> Saturday. That's what I meant. >> Next on the agenda is city attorney. Um >> I don't really have anything. I just wish everybody a merry Christmas, happy
new year. We'll see you in January. Next on the agenda is city manager. >> I just wanted to give a quick update on a couple projects. The John's Pass dredging um set to begin in January, still contingent upon when Penllis
County finishes their dredging of the channel. And then the snack shack sand removal that will begin on December 22nd and go through December 27th with of course Christmas being an off day for the uh business or the uh contractor.
But other than that, that's it from city manager's office. >> Do we have any additional comments, questions? We did not have any um public comments at the beginning of the meeting. So it is 7:24. We are
adjourned. Thank you.