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All right, welcome everyone. We'll go ahead and call the meeting of the planning commission to order. If you would please call the role. >> Chairman Wyoff >> present. >> Commissioner Connley.

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>> Commissioner Holloway. Commissioner Noble >> here. >> Commissioner Cloud, Commissioner Laroo, >> where did they go? >> Commissioner Maher >> here. >> All right, looks like we do have a

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quorum. So, we'll move on to public comment. Uh just uh the announcement here is public participation is encouraged. If you're addressing the planning commission, please come up to the podium. Give us your name and address for the record. Please limit your comments to 3 minutes

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and do not include any topic that's on the agenda. If it is an agenda item, you can have uh the opportunity to speak to it at that time. We will ask for public comment under each agenda item as necessary. Um that's that. Okay. >> Hi, my name's Tom Wallally. I live at 60

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137th Avenue Circle, Madiraa Beach. I would imagine all you guys are all Madura Beach residents, too. Um, I sat sat on the clan planning commission years ago with this gentleman. So, I know how much you guys love the city to give your time up for this. So, I want to thank you all for

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what you do. I've done it. I know what you're doing. Appreciate y'all. Um, the reason that I came today was a couple things. I see that they're doing um construction across the street at 137th Avenue. And this might not even be the forum to talk about this, but you guys

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might be able to tell me who to direct my questions to. I'm rarely in town, so I'm taking this opportunity to come and maybe get some answers. They're doing the construction of something, and I want to know if they can make it uh put in like a beach mat and make it ADA

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accessible at the uh 137th Avenue Circle Beach access when they're done doing whatever they're doing over there. That was one thing. And uh the other thing is I heard that the uh county got a big grant to clean out the canals. And

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when that um hurricane Helen hit where I live in back of the candy kitchen, we got tons and tons of sand that were washed and blown in the water behind our houses and under our boats and stuff and like it needs to be dredged back there. But

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the biggest problem is is the church's uh thrift shop shed blew into the water and when they took it out all the stuff from it was in the water. They did a good job of cleaning it out but there's still a ton of trash back there. And um

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the third thing was, you know, it's really none of my business about this Kitty Park thing, but I came to a commission meeting and there were some people that I knew that were kind of uh upset about it. And so,

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um getting involved in it a little bit and I'm rarely around here, so I was hoping to come here and ask a couple questions. Um, I noticed that our our new city park, I got the drawings for it and I knew notice that it's under

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construction and I drive by it every single day I live right there. And I'm wondering why there's not like a construction fence going around the whole property like I would have to have around my house or one of those black silk fences around the property until

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they get their certificate of occupancy when they're done doing all that construction over there. And um the other thing is if somebody doesn't do something about that Tom Kitty Park situation where every car robbed Madira

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Beach residents. This old lady left us a park to use as Madiraa Beach residents. And now with this uh a development agreement that our current city attorney signed, every car that goes to Caddies

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is going to be driving through our city park. And there's a lady laying dead someplace, Kitty Stewart. That w that wasn't her intention was to have every car going to Catty's drive through the park that she donated us, us citizens of Madera Beach, you know, and I'm going to

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get involved in it. I'm going to get something done about it. I love this city. I don't want to hire a law firm to sue this city, but I got the best law firm that there is that handles this type of stuff and he'll, you know, tear

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this city apart, you know, about the stupid thing about making all the cars go through time and city kitty Kitty Park over there. So, I hope somebody starts doing something about that, you know, cuz I really don't want to sue the city. I love the city and thanks again

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for everything that you guys do. I know what you're doing. So, let's do something about our park and my mat at the end of the beach access and all the dirt and water. Thank >> All right. Thank you, sir. Anybody else?

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>> Anybody else? Okay. Thank you. And we are on to the approval of last month's meeting minutes. I have a motion to approve said minutes. Make a motion to approve last month's meeting minutes. >> Thank you. A second.

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>> I'll second. >> Thank you. We have a motion in a second. Please call the role. >> Commissioner Maher? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Noble? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Holloway? >> Yes. >> Chairman Woff?

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>> Yes. Minutes approved. Thank you. Um, under new business, first item is to elect a new vice chair or a vice chair. We don't even have an old vice chair to speak of at this point. So, we need to elect a vice chair. So, you can nominate someone or nominate yourself. If you'd

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like to do that, please feel free and go. >> I nominate somebody other than myself. >> Anyone? Mr. Maher, how about you? >> You want to be the vice chair? I will, but I I guess should this be

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maybe put on till next time in case >> We can do that, too. I mean, I'll be at the next meeting. So, yeah, we'll we'll wait till everybody's here. >> Everybody's not here. So, >> that's fair. Yep. Good enough. Okay. Can we postpone that till uh next meeting? >> Sounds good. >> All right. >> Appreciate that. Do we need to make an

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official motion to postpone? And >> would that be our best? That's what I thought. Robert's rules of order. Would someone like to move to postpone this till next meeting? >> I'll make a motion to move the postpone it till next meeting. >> Thank you. >> I'll second.

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>> Okay. Anybody got any discussion on that motion? Anybody opposed to that motion? If there's no opposition to it, it passes. >> Thank you. We can do it that way. It's faster, right? Go going through or do we or do I physically

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>> We could all just just verbally uh say your votes. Okay, never mind then. We'll call the role. >> Commissioner Mah, >> yes. >> Commissioner Noble, >> yes. >> Commissioner Holloway, >> yes. >> Chairman Woff, >> yes. Thank you. Thanks for keeping me on track. I belong in some other groups and

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sometimes we just do it by if there's no opposition, it carries, whatever. Okay, so uh next item of new business, Ordinance 20 2026-09, non-conformances and rebuilding regulations. Who's got that one?

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>> Yep. So, as discussed last time, >> uh we haven't changed the ordinance since we discussed it, but uh there was some concern. We wanted some numbers on how many properties this ordinance is going to affect, particularly the portion that allows non-conforming

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structures to continue to get repair permits another year. Um the best data I can provide, I did provide some numbers in the memo. Um but so there were 452 properties that were sent the letter that we know 100% we need some

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documentation on most likely a permit. Out of those 452, about a a little less than a quarter of them either obtained a permit or

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sent some kind of letter or mail or documentation to the city or spoke to the city to let them know that they're waiting for Elevate Florida or some kind of concern on why they're not moving forward. So, that's the best available

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data we have. I also provided uh on 4Erunner which is where we're tracking this uh they're able to so basically every property has a a damage status and that's how we're tracking these. So most of them the ones that are

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on the no permit status are the ones that are going to get received receive the letters every time we decide to do a mailing. So, when we sent the mailings, like I said, they were 452. Now, we're down to 390 on the no permit status. We're also tracking. We have a status

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for order and communication. So, they're not compliant, but they're at least communicating with us so we can keep those separate so we don't continue to send those mailings. This is kind of the pie chart what it looks the statuses look like now. Most of them are on what

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we're calling QC needed, which are mostly postfirm buildings. We just want to manually verify that we're not putting something into that status until we're sure. And also a lot of them are like condo buildings. But as you can see, most excluding that big chunk,

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most of the properties that are preferred did get a permit so far, about half of them, and then the other half it's split between still no permit or or working on elevating something along that lines. But basically the ordinance

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has remained unchanged since our discussion last time. Happy to answer any questions. All right. Planning commission members, you got any questions? Or actually before we do that, any member of the public like to speak to

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this agenda item? Good. Okay. Right back to where we were. Thank you. >> I have a comment. And I have my permit ready to go. So, you'll be getting that uh probably tomorrow or the day after. So, you're electronic. >> You're off the naughty list. >> It has to be issued to be off the

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naughty list. >> Okay. >> Once it's approved, >> we appreciate you leading by example. >> Slow example. So, were we getting any push back from any on this other than people maybe have

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felt rushed and now they're not going to and they maybe, you know, the people that went and did their thing feel like they got punished for going faster. >> Yeah, I would say that's the only kind of push back I would say. The only other comment we got on the ordinance was when we presented it to the board of

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commissioners. One of the commissioners asked about uh one of the portions about the F being able to be maintained for non-conforming structures. Um but that was dismissed basically. And

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I could talk more about that if interested. But basically that that part of the code allows uh non-conforming commercial uses to retain their F which is usually the limiting factor for commercial as where residential is usually set back or structure.

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>> So we're just letting the people rebuild giving them an extension of time to remain non-conforming >> basically. Yep. Including with a new structure. >> Okay. >> So that would that would be for rebuilding after a catastrophic loss. So that would be replacing a

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destroyed commercial building with a a new one. That would The thing is currently in the ordinance um it mentions footprint but not commercial F even though we use commercial F. So it

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doesn't make much sense that you would approve it in the same footprint but not approve the same F. and and and the only place really with like high commercial F in John's past and and that's we've

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changed made the F higher there. So >> it's just good that you just cover our basis because not clarifying unfortunately our code there's a lot of things that aren't clarified and when you mention like >> footprint the notch commercial F it doesn't make sense so it's more of a

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clarification thing. >> Very cool. All right. Any questions from our planning commission members of the city? All right. Anybody got a motion they'd like to make? I can't do it. Do we have to make a motion on that one?

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>> Yes, >> we do, I think. Right. Yeah, we have to >> accept >> to recommend approval to allow the ordinance to proceed to the first reading at the next regularly scheduled board of commission meeting. To clarify, this one needs needs to go to the next upcoming board of

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commissioners meeting to line up with making sure we we pass it before that that September deadline. The other ordinances that that you're voting on today would be going to the month after that. >> Okay. So this is CL.

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>> I make a motion to pass ordinance 2026-09 nonconformances and rebuilding regulations to approve. And do we need to clarify the motion to

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say allow to be at the next planning commission, I mean the next city commission meeting? >> Uh no, I wouldn't say that it's necessary. It's just the way the agenda flows. >> Okay. So, we have a motion for approval of 2026-09. I have a second, please. >> I'll second. >> Thank you very much. Any other

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discussion on the motion from our planning commission members? >> All right. Please call the role. >> Commissioner Noble, >> yes. >> Commissioner Maher, >> yes. >> Commissioner Holloway, >> yes. >> Chairman Woff, >> yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Um the next item on our agenda is

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ordinance 2026-10 chapter 106 vegetation. So uh this was also presented at the last planning commission meeting. Uh there were some minor changes based on the discussions we had as well as the

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city attorney's review. Um but largely unchanged. The biggest changes are that we added uh tree credit for larger trees to count as multiple trees, which is common in other municipalities like we talked about. Um and then mostly just formatting

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issues. Um happy to answer any questions. >> You added back in some additional trees. >> Yeah. So that was based on the city attorney's feedback. Let me go to that section real quick.

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So basically in the ordinance that was presented before, we basically just struck out all of the trees and referenced the list that we already referenced. And what we did here is we're still referencing that same

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list that you guys saw last time. We're just keeping the same trees that were already counted as allowed trees in the code directly which most of these if not all of them are already within the

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reference list. Uh but basically just keeping it there because it's been there and it's not hasn't been an issue. >> All right. Any public input on this particular topic? Good. Okay. All right. Any other questions for the city and or

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a motion to approve? >> And remember, there's only a few of you here tonight, so you're going to >> I'll make a motion to approve. Ordinance 2026-10, chapter 106, vegetation to approve as

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the changes are written. >> Thank you. Anybody want to second that one? >> I'll second it. >> Perfect. Thank you. We have a motion and a second. If there's no discussion, other discussion on the motion, we'll call the role. >> Commissioner Noble, >> yes.

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>> Commissioner Holloway, >> yes. >> Commissioner Maher, >> yes. >> Chairman Woff, >> yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Uh, next item is ordinance 2026-11. Do you see a pattern for me here? Perfect. Um section 110-423

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intersection visibility city please also presented at the last meeting. The only changes here from the last meeting is originally we were going to recommend

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lowering the intersection visibility height requirement. So when you're in intersection visibility between 3 ft and 8 ft is what the current current code says. It has to be clear. Um one of the commissioners of the border commission recommended

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lowering that from 36 in to 30 in which is what we presented last time. Um but we realized we can't do that because of Senate Bill 180 would be more burdens and more restrictive on developers. Uh so we're just basically keeping it what it is. Um all other changes has been the

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same from the last meeting. >> Okay. >> All right. Any questions for the city? If not, you know the drill. I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 2026-10.

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Um intersection vis. This is ordinance 2026-11. >> Sorry, 11. Intersection visibility. >> All right. Thank you. I need a second, please. >> I'll second. >> Very good.

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Any further discussion on the motion? >> Seeing none, please call the role. >> Commissioner Maher, >> yes. >> Commissioner Noble, >> yes. >> Commissioner Holloway, >> Chairman Woff, >> yes. And that motion also passes. Thank

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you. The next item is ordinance 2026-12 which is repealing section 110-670 landscaping green areas. We anxiously await your description. >> So also the same as last time. Uh,

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essentially we're making sure all the landscape requirements are in one section of the code, which is a code section dedicated to landscaping, not this random section that staff before us probably didn't even realize existed. Uh, so just striking that since all of those requirements are now in chapter

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106. Any member of the public have any questions or comments? Sorry. Good. Okay. Any planning commission members have any questions for the city? If not, we need a motion, please.

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>> I will make a motion to accept cleaning up uh the ordinance and consolidating it. Ordinance 2026-12, repealing section 110-670,

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landscaping green areas, accepting the city's recommendation. >> I'll second. All right, we have a motion and a second to recommend the uh the approval to allow the ordinance to proceed to the first reading at the next regularly scheduled board commissioners meeting. Any other discussion on the

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motion? >> If none, we'll take the role, please. >> Commissioner Noble, >> yes. >> Commissioner Maher, >> yes. >> Commissioner Holloway, >> Chairman Woff, >> yes. >> You pass. >> Thank you. Ordinance 2026-13

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chapter 82 definitions related to chapter 106. >> So these definitions have also remained unchanged from the last presentation. Essentially all of our definitions for the land development regulations are in their own chapter. So

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this requires a separate ordinance uh just to make sure that they're consistent with the landscape regulations that were already voted on earlier. All right. Any member of the public have any discussion on this matter? Thank you very much. Uh planning commissioners, do

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we have anything for the city? We kind of beat this all up the last time. All right. And I just need a motion. I'll make a motion to accept the city's

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recommendation for ordinance 2026-13, chapter 82, definitions related to chapter 106 and approval of the city's recommendations. >> All right, we got a motion and a second. I'm going to guess nobody wants to talk

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about that motion, so we're going to be good. Okay, well, please call the role. >> Commissioner Noble. Yes. >> Commissioner Holloway. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Maher. >> Yes. >> Chairman Woff. >> Yes. Motion passes. Thank you very much.

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Very well done everyone. Uh any items of old business that we need to address? Planning commissioners? Anything comes to mind? City got anything on your Okay. Uh any administrative or staff presentations at this time? Smooth. Any planning commission

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discussion? Did I see at the workshop that I was at uh they this the city commissioners are doing RFQ for somebody to come in and consult a rewrite of our codes or a review of all of our codes. >> Yes, that's correct. So, we will be

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drafting up an RFQ for our codes. We foresee doing that in two phases. The first phase will be cleaning it up, removing contradictions, and kind of doing what Joe did this evening where we're taking stuff out of one code, putting it in one location. That'll be the first go of it. And then the second

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round will be actual changes and updates. There will be some changes and updates as we clean it up and clarify it. Um, but then the big task with a lot of public input and things like that will be once we go in and change the codes. But the first thing is really to clean it up, get rid of contradictions,

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and make it a lot more user friendly. >> And is then is that then going to have to come to us or is it go straight to the city commission? >> I believe for an RFQ it would just go to the BSL. Double check with Andrew. >> I don't mean the quote stuff. I mean the

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the actual uh body of work that they do once it's hired out. >> The body of work will come to you guys. >> Perfect. >> Yes. Apologize. Yeah. >> Cool. Good. Any other questions or discussion for the city? Good. Um, looks like our next meeting

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then is Monday the 14th of September and uh we'll be right here at 6 p.m. Looks like that's all we got. All right, we'll adjourn the meeting. Thank you.