All right. Good afternoon everyone. Welcome to the city of MadiRaa Beach code enforcement hearing. My name is Bart Valdez and I'm the appointed special magistrate to hear today's cases. I'm a practicing attorney and have been a member of the Florida Bar for over 25 years. I've been appointed to this
position in accordance and with the authority set forth in chapter 162 Florida statutes. It is my role to fairly and objectively review the matters presented. As such, I would like to advise you of certain matters related to today's proceedings. Today's matters will be heard in the order that they
appear on the agenda. Every effort will be made to hear all persons having relevant evidence, argument, or comments to offer related to the specific case that is being heard. If you wish to speak today, it is necessary that you be sworn in by the city attorney in just a few moments. In all cases, since the
city has the burden of proof, the city will present its case first. The respondent then will be given the opportunity to refute the city's allegations. Formal rules of evidence do not apply to this proceeding. However, I will exert every effort to ensure that fundamental
fairness is afforded to all parties. After hearing all relevant evidence, I will issue an order. The order will be reduced to writing and you will be provided with a copy by mail. Additionally, you're advised that I do not have the authority to grant you a variance, permit, or special exception
of any kind. My role is solely to determine whether a city code has been violated and to provide you a reasonable time to correct the violation by whatever means is available to you. Please be advised that you may be subject to a fine and a lean may be recorded on your property if the
violation is not corrected by the compliance deadline. If you wish to present any information to me today, it is necessary that you swear affirm that you will tell the truth. This includes any members of the public. Therefore, at this time, the city attorney will swear in any witnesses. So, if there's anybody out in the audience that wants to speak
to me today or anybody up here on the dis, please uh stand and raise your right hand and be sworn. You swear the testimony you're about to give today is going to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. >> All right. Thank you.
All right. The first matter on the agenda today is case number 2025.001 for the property located at 350 Bokeh Sega Drive. Is the city ready to proceed? >> We are. >> Go ahead, Mr. Tras. >> So, I would call the deputy um this
morning for this first case. Deputy, if you could please state your full name for uh the special magistrate and your occupation and your job responsibilities here at the city. I'm Deputy Alex Sanwin with the Panel County Sheriff's Office assigned to the community policing division uh code enforcement in the city
of Madira Beach. >> Are you familiar with this property at 350 Bogga SiGa Drive here in Madira Beach? >> I am. >> And is this a case that's brought forward uh based upon a complaint that you received or was this proactive enforcement?
>> Uh a little bit of both. Actually, the first complaint I got was from the neighbors uh next to the uh property in question and then throughout my uh hooies throughout the city inspections.
>> Okay. So, when you received the complaint from the neighbor, what was the complaint that you received? Uh the complaint that we received was basically uh tall grass uh unckempt property u uh
doors unsecure and the pool at the resident it's uh not maintained. >> Okay. This property is owned by whom? >> On the uh prop appraisal we were able to locate the that the register owner is
Happy Horse LLC. Uh, it's a Robin Mills Trust. >> Okay. And did you uh print out the tax collector's website reflecting the ownership? >> Um, believe so. It's in the It's in
there. >> Go ahead and pull it out. I'm going to show you a couple of documents today. First of all, is this the tax collector printout reflecting the ownership of the property as you just testified to? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And um once you received the
complaint, when was your first inspection of the property? >> First inspection conducted was in started in August 29th. >> Okay. Did you uh follow up? Well, first of all, when you got there, what did you
find specifically? >> Uh just like it was addressed, uh the the bushes, the the palm trees were unkempt. Um uh vegetation was high front and the back of the residence and you
can see through if you're standing in front of the house uh the property you can see through the the house and the doors were unsecured and you can see the pool as well. >> Okay. So did you follow up then with issuing a courtesy notice or a letter to
the property owner as to the violations? >> I did. >> Okay. And I'm going to show you here a courtesy notice. It's dated September the 3rd, 2025. Is this the courtesy notice that you sent to the property owner? >> Yes. >> Okay. And when you sent this to the
property owner, did you cite the code violations that you believe that the property um had? >> I did. >> Okay. Could you go through those code violations as you found? >> Um ordinance Section 14-68, maintenance of vegetation, trees,
planting, and landscaping. Uh section 1469 of the code ordinance, uh maintenance of exterior of the premises. Section 1470, general maintenance. Uh sub and then section 303.1 swimming
pools. Uh swimming pool shall be maintained in a clean and sanitary condition and in good repair. >> Thank you. When you issued the courtesy letter to the property owner, did you ask the property owner to bring the property into compliance by a certain date? >> Uh I did.
>> And what was that date? >> Uh by reinspection will be conducted on September 25th. Did you subsequently go out to the property determine whether or not it was uh still in violation?
>> Uh yes. I I conducted reinspection of the address on such date and it was not. >> All right. I want to back up just a moment. When you sent the courtesy notice of violation, did you attach to it photographs? >> I did. >> Okay. >> And we're going to show some of the
photographs up on the screen. I think Holden is Are you the one in controlling? Okay. if you could look at these photographs that you attached the courtesy letter and explain what these photographs depict. >> So that that photo is from the front of the residence.
>> And the next photo, >> uh, it's the rear. >> Okay. And what are these photos showing other than the location on the property? >> It's it's just overgrown. uh you you can't see exactly um like the pathway
and you can tell that it's it's not kept. >> And are you also bringing the attention to the palm frrons on the ground and the uh debris on the ground as well? >> Yes, sir. The debris. >> Okay. And if we could stop right there in that photograph. Uh it looks like
this door. Um could you pan down a little bit? Holden. Is this one of the doors that's open to the public? >> Uh yes. That's from the front of the house. You can see that sliding door is open, unsecure, and it's visible from the front from the front of the property. >> Okay.
All right. Thank you. So, once you uh did your reinspection, did you in fact issue a a violation notice on September the 25th? >> I did. >> And did it reflect the same information as the courtesy notice, those three or
four code sections that you had just um testified to? >> Did. Yes. Okay. And um in that September the 25th letter that it was sent to the property owner, did you ask the property owner to bring the property into compliance again by a date certain? >> Yes, sir. >> What date was that?
>> Uh the date of the reinspection will be conducted by October 3rd. >> Okay. Did it come into compliance by October 3rd? >> It did not. >> Okay. Did you attach to that um letter additional photographs? >> I did. >> Okay. We're going to go through these photographs on the screen again. if you
could tell us what we're looking at in these photographs. They're up here. That's the front of the property again. Front of the property. The front of the property. And that's the front of the property as
well. That's the uh first letter that I posted. Front of the property. No change. That's the front of the property. Front of the property. That's the rear of the property. That's That's the rear of the property
to the neighbor's house to the >> So, hang on. Just understand this. So, the property we're talking about is on the left side of this photograph. The neighbor is on the right. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> All right. That's a picture taken from with the permission of the complainant
um above his uh pool or upper deck. >> Okay. Is that picture showing the pool? >> The pool. >> Yes. >> Okay. And where is the pool located? >> Uh it's in the back and backyard right there where you're on the mouse. It's like green. You can see it's algae.
>> Okay. It's the green area in the photograph. >> Yes. >> Okay. Is that another picture of the pool? Yes, that's it. Uh, same picture of the pool. That's the front of the residence.
And that's the front of the residence. The front. >> Was the door still open on your second inspection of the property? >> Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. When you sent this letter, did you uh the notice of violation, did you send it by regular and certified mail?
>> I did both. Yes. >> Okay. Did the regular mail come back to the city? >> The regular mail did not. >> Okay. Did the certified mail come back to the city? >> They did. >> Okay. And when it came back, what was the envelope marked? Um
envelope was marked returned on 102 for the first one and then >> and what was the reason it was being returned? >> Uh it was attempted not known unable to forward the correspondence. >> Okay. The address that you sent the notices to was the address listed by the tax collector's records. Correct.
>> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Um after you sent the um this letter by certified mail and regular mail, uh did the property come into compliance? I did not. >> Did you issue then a um statement of violation and a request for hearing?
>> I did. >> Okay. And I'm going to go ahead and show you that. Is this the statement of violation request for hearing? >> Yes. >> And it set forth the factual basis of the request for the hearing itself? >> Yes. >> Okay. And did you also issue a notice of
hearing for today? >> I did. >> And is that this I'm showing you a notice of hearing? Is that the correct one? Correct. >> All right. Did you send these by regular and certified mail as well? >> Both. >> Yes. >> Did the regular mail come back to the city? >> It did not. >> Did the certified mail come back? >> It did.
>> And it was it had the same reference on the letter? >> Yes. >> Unable to forward? >> Unable to forward. >> Okay. And lastly, I want to ask you about the posting of the property. Um, did you prepare an affidavit of service and and is this a copy of that
affidavit of service showing um how you served the property owner? >> I did. Yes. >> Okay. And is this reflect that you sent these notices of the notice of hearing by regular mail and certified mail? >> Yes. >> Okay. Does it also say that you posted the property with the notices? >> Yes.
>> And did you post it at city hall as well? >> I did. >> Okay. This photograph that's up on the screen right now, what does that reflect? uh the uh courtesy letter, uh the notice of uh violation, and then the
notice of uh uh hearing for today, match. >> Okay. And did you also take a photograph of it being posted at city hall? >> I did. >> And is that a picture of it being posted here at city hall? >> That's it. Yes. >> Okay. So, have you had an opportunity to talk to the property owner since these
violation notices went out? Um, I talked to a property owner actually today by phone. >> And who did you actually speak to? >> Uh, Karina Croft. >> And what was the conversation with um that person? >> I explained to her the uh the complaints
that we received and the uh code uh violation that we found uh on her property. explained to her about the maintenance of the the yards, uh the unsecured doors on on the structure and the pool as well.
>> And her response >> uh her response was uh that she would take care of it uh within this weekend to mention that it's been over 10 months since we've had the the hurricane and >> Okay.
All right. Did she say that she was going to come to the hearing today? >> Uh she was not. >> Okay. How much time do you think it will take to bring the property into compliance? >> I would say 30 days. >> And what will the property owner need to do to bring the property into compliance? >> Uh well the ve first of all the uh the
vegetation needs to be cut and trim. Uh and the structure needs to be secured. The doors needs to be secure and the pool needs to be clean and or drain or >> okay. If the property is not in
compliance within those 30 days, what do you think the appropriate dollar amount of fine should be? >> Uh based on the safety of uh of the property being unsecure, I would say uh 250 per day on on that on that code
violation and same for the for the pool. >> All right. Um I don't have any other questions for you. Have you had an opportunity to look through these documents as as we were talking? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And is are you asking for the special magistrate to receive these documents into evidence? >> Yes, sir.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you. I don't have any other questions for you. I would tender into evidence pages three through 62 of the packet. Ask that they be received into evidence. All right, Mr. Trash, I'll go ahead and accept in as
exhibit number one, pages 3 through 62 of the agenda packet. All right. Is there anyone here on behalf of the property owner at 350 Bokeh Drive? Happy Horse LLC is trustee of the Robin Mills
Trust. Anyone here on behalf of the owner? Okay. Uh any other witnesses? Mr. Tras said he has no other witnesses. There is a neighbor in the audience. I'm not sure if she wanted to speak or not. >> Okay, that'll be fine. Now is the time for public comment. Are there any members of the public who have knowledge
about this code enforcement issue that would like to come forward and be heard? >> Going once, going twice. Okay, we'll go ahead and close public comment. All right, Mr. TR, anything else?
>> Just ask that special matter, you find the property in violation of the cited code section, I require the property to property owner to bring it into compliance within 30 days of the date of this hearing. Um if it's not in compliance by that date, we're asking that you um set a fine of $250 a day
because of the life safety issues, the uh open pool and the open structure with the doors not being secured. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Tras. Based upon the testimony and information provided, I do find the propertyy's in violation as set forth in the notice. Uh
the compliance will be based upon the item set forth in the notice as well as on the record today. I do believe that 30 days is a reasonable time to bring the property into compliance and that thereafter based upon the health, safety, and welfare issues, $250 a day is an appropriate fine thereafter. All
right, let's move on to the next case, which is CE 25-91 and this is for the property located at 11 Lenway, 11 Lenway. Is the city ready to proceed? >> We are. >> Go ahead, Mr. Tr.
>> So today on this case, Taylor Davis is going to testify. on behalf of the city. So, Taylor, if you could go ahead and state your uh occupation here at the city and your job responsibilities. >> Uh my name is Taylor Davis. I am a
permit and code compliance specialist for the city of MadiRaa. Couple of my duties are to posttop work orders, create code violation cases. >> Are you familiar with this property located at 11 Lynn Way? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And is this a complaint uh case or
is this a proactive case? >> Proactive. We found this one ourselves. >> Okay. And um when was the city's first involvement with 11 Lynn way relative to this code enforcement case?
>> Um probably the same day we sent out the courtesy notice of violation which was June 20th of this year. >> Okay. And is that when the inspection of the property took place on June 20th, 2025? >> Um, we actually have never seen the
inside. We found the photographs that are in this letter off of Zillow when the place was for rent. It's a quadplex. >> Okay. So, um, let's step back just a little bit. Who's the owner of this property at 11 Lynn Way? And how do you know that?
>> From property appraiser Oliva Land and Sand LLC. Okay. And did you receive that information through the Penelis County Property Appraisers Office? >> I did. >> And is that um set forth in pages 63 through 65 of the packet?
>> Correct. >> Okay. Um was this one of the properties in the city of Mader Beach that was flooded? >> Yes. >> And approximately how much water was inside this structure? >> About four feet. >> Okay. And how do you know that?
>> Um, we have our own kind of external companies that went out, tidal basin, we got water lines and stuff, uh, photographs of that. >> Okay. >> And neighboring homes, obviously. >> All right. So, when did it come to the city's attention that there was work on
this property having been done without obtaining a building permit? just through the photographs of a whole remodel and I think um HVAC and everything was replaced as well. >> All right, let's talk about
>> the photos. Is it the city does city normally through the course of business review Zillow information to determine whether or not people are pulling permits? >> It's a good source. >> Okay. And is you're saying that that's the way the city found these violations on this particular property? >> This one? Yeah.
>> Okay. What I'd like you to do is I'd like you to turn to page 68 of the packet and let's talk about the two photographs there. >> So, two different kitchens I assume from two different of the four units. >> And these photographs were on Zillow,
>> correct? >> Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Next photograph. Um, brand new condenser, brand new stand. And then also page 69, uh, brand new bathroom vanity.
>> Okay. Once the city determined there was a violation, did the city issue a courtesy notice of violation? >> Courtesy, yes. >> And what was the date that that was sent? >> Sent out June 20th of 2025. You could turn to page 66. Starting at 66. Is this
the courtesy notice? >> Yes. >> Did you attach to it the photographs that you just shown on the Yes. screen? Okay. And when this courtesy notice was sent to the property owner, was there a compliance date set? >> Yes. On July 4th, 2025, two weeks.
>> Did it come in in compliance by that date? >> No, we haven't received a permit. >> Okay. Did the city then issue a notice of code violation? >> We did July 3rd. of 2025.
>> Okay. Did this notice of code violation does set forth a specific code section that was um they were in violation of? >> Yes. Uh section 8652 when required um requiring a permit for doing over $500 worth of work.
>> Okay. And it's uh the city's um position that over $500 worth of work was done on these four apartment apartments. >> Yes. >> Okay. Did you send this letter by certified and regular mail? >> Yes.
>> Okay. Did the certified mail um first of all, did the regular mail come back to the city? >> Regular mail? No. >> Did the certified mail come back to the city? >> Turn your attention to page 75 of the packet. It was sent. We got the green card back signed.
>> Okay. After you got the green card back signed, did you hear from the property owner? >> We did not. >> I'd like you to turn to page 76 of the packet and tell me what this particular uh piece of evidence reflects. Page 76.
>> Um so that was pulled from Zillow as well. Um so listed for rent back in April. So, we're assuming all the work was completed back in April, removed, listed again for rent back in July. Um, and then it specifically says under the
what's special area, fully remodeled and updated. >> Okay. Did the city then ball up and issue a statement of violation and request for hearing since the permit was not obtained? >> We did. And is that reflected starting
on page 79? >> Yes. >> And did it site the same code section as what was in the notice of violation? >> Yes. >> Did you also issue a notice of hearing for today's hearing? >> We did. >> Um, and was that sent by regular and certified mail?
>> Regular and certified? Yes. >> And did the regular mail come back? >> No. >> Did the certified mail come back? >> No. Did the city also post the property and post the city hall with the um uh notice
of hearing for today? >> Yes, those are Yeah, the picture that's on the big screen. >> So, if you could turn to page 83 and 84 and tell us what those photographs depict. >> 83. The time stamp even has the the address and the time and date up top
when that was uh staked into the front yard. That's the notice of hearing for today. And 84 is same downstairs hall posting. >> Okay. And did the city also issue then
an affidavit of service reflecting that the notice of hearing was sent by regular mail certified mail posted at the property and posted here at city hall? >> Yes. >> And is that reflected starting at page 81 of the packet? >> Yes. >> All right. Is the property in compliance as of today? >> It is not.
>> Okay. Have you heard anything from the property owner about bringing it into compliance? Um, we received a permit application on the 24th of this month. >> Okay. >> Not yet issued, not accepted as a project or anything yet. So, not in compliance.
>> So, approximately 3 days ago? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, other than the application having been filed, have you had any has the city had any contact with the owner? >> No. >> All right. How much time do you think it will take for the property owner to obtain the
building permit and get the property in compliance? >> 30 days. >> And what do you think the dollar amount of the fine should be? Should it not be in compliance within that 30-day time frame? >> Uh 250 a day due to life and health safety reasons.
>> Um and what are those life and health health and safety reasons? >> The work being done and no city staff has inspected and there's tenants in there already. Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, I don't have any other questions for you,
Taylor. I would tender into evidence the agenda packet starting at page 63 and ending at page 84. Ask that they be received into evidence. All right. I'll go ahead and accept into evidence as exhibit number one, pages
number 63 through 84 of the agenda packet. All right. Is there anyone here on behalf of the owner? Olivia Sand and LL Olivia Land and Sand LLC. Anyone here on behalf of the owner? All right. Come on forward, sir. And first, give me your
name, please. >> My name is Jason Sanchez with Blue Water Builders. >> All right, Mr. Sanchez. I'm going to give you a chance in just a few minutes to tell me anything you want to tell me. Uh, this is your opportunity, however, to cross-examine Miss Davis on any of her testimony. Again, this is just
limited to asking her questions. Do you have any questions about what she testified to? >> No, I really don't. I mean, we did submit for a permit. It was Friday. I did try to submit earlier in the week, you know, and and you know, trying to get ahead of this, but I couldn't get an answer on a couple things via email and
I sent it tried to call a few times to the building department, but so we submitted it as a residential permit. I assume that's the right way. I had emailed a couple different times to see if it had to be a commercial permit because it's a forplex. So, I submitted as a residential, so I hope that's the right way. >> All right. Well, two things. First of
all, so you don't have any questions because I'm gonna let you tell me whatever. Do you have any questions from Miss Davis? >> No. I I mean, I would think hopefully within the 30 days should be able to get at least something, but it's going to be hinged on for them to go out and do an inspection or, you know, look at the
property. It's got to be somewhat approved or reviewed. So, can that happen within 30 days would be my question. >> All right. Do you have a answer for that, Miss Davis? I'm not one of the inspectors for permits and things. Um, and I don't know because it was all after the fact. I
don't know what our building official is going to go. I don't know if drywall is going to have to be ripped out. I don't know. I don't know either. >> And I don't want to speak for her. So, um, but to get an after the fact permit issued, as long as everything is correct, um, and looks good your end and my end, then, uh, I think 30 days could
be issued. >> All right. And, sir, what I'll say is this. if you get into some issue and it's certainly the the city's fault that you know you've done all the work and you've dotted all your eyes and cross your tees, you know, you can always come back to see me and we can give you an extension of time to comply. Uh but hold
on, don't go anywhere. Let me see if the city has any other witnesses. >> No other witnesses. >> Okay. All right, sir. So, u this is your opportunity to tell me anything you want to tell me. Show me any documents you want to show me. Call any witnesses you want to call. >> I don't have any witnesses, any other documents. It was more or less just be here on behalf of the owner. They hired
me obviously after the fact and I'm on a few of different of their properties right now. So, we're trying to help them get out of this. They're uh in and out of the country often. So, I know they I'm sure they kind of hurried up and did this and we'll just leave it at that. >> All right. Well, I'm glad that they have
a licensed contractor like yourself helping them. Uh and then what I would also say to you is if you want to, we're going to go through all the agenda items. Usually the city staff will make themselves available after this hearing. So, if you have a question, I would encourage you to just sit tight till the end of the hearing and then you can talk to city staff about any questions that you have.
>> Now, I'm hopeful they'll get this reviewed and we'll get on our way. >> All right. Thank you, sir. You can have a seat. >> I have some I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Ask. >> All right. So, Mr. Sanchez, you've been hired by the property owner, correct? >> Correct. >> When were you hired by the property owner? >> Uh, about two weeks ago.
>> Okay. Were you the person that did the work in the apartment building? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Do you know who did the work in the apartment building? >> I do not. >> Okay. Um, when you applied uh for the building permit, did you submit all the required paperwork that's necessary for
the uh the building permit to be issued? >> I'm hopeful that I did. >> Okay. Um, and so you don't know whether you did or you didn't because of the fact that someone in the city hasn't called you back just yet. >> Uh, correct. >> Okay. And you actually filed it on
Friday, correct? Correct. >> What time on Friday? >> Toward the end of the day. >> Okay. Um, so the city is asking for the special magistrate to order the property be brought into compliance within 30 days.
This is not to get the work completed. This is to get the building permit issued. You can get that done within 30 days, can't you? >> I'm hopeful. Again, I I can't that's one thing I cannot control is, you know, the review process. And if they have questions, obviously I'll resubmit, get them the answers that they need or information that they need to try to get
the permit pushed through. Okay. Thank you. I have no other questions. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Have a seat. All right. Are there any members of the public that have information relating to case number 25-91 for the property located 11 Linway? Any members of the
public? All right, we'll go ahead and close down public comment. Mr. Trask. Anything else on this one? >> So, we just ask that you find the property owner in violation of the sighted code section. Order that the property be brought into compliance within 30 days. And because of the fact
that there are four apartments that are currently being occupied with work done in it without inspections being done, we're asking that you find this to be a uh life safety issue and order that the fine be $250 a day for every day the property remains in non-compliance.
>> All right. Thank you, Miss Tra. Based upon the testimony provided in the documents, I do find the propertyy's in violation as set forth in the notice. Based upon the testimony, it does appear that 30 days is a reasonable time within which to bring the property into compliance because that's as you point
out, Mr. Tras issuance of the building permit based upon the testimony of Miss Davis. I also believe that there is life, safety, and welfare issues here. So, I believe the $250 a day fine is appropriate. All right, I'll go ahead and get the order out in that one. Let's move on to the next one which is
C25-127. This is for the property located at 1453 North Beayshore Drive. And the city would call Connor Mechco. Connor, if you could please state your occupation here at the city and your job
responsibilities. Um, I'm the code compliance specialist for the city of Madiraa Beach and some of my duties include uh issuing stop work orders and enforcing code compliance. >> Thank you. Are you uh familiar with this
property located at 14503 North Behore Drive? >> Yes. >> Okay. And is this a proactive case or was this complaint driven? >> This was proactive. And what was the um first of all, when was the inspection of this property done that created this
code enforcement case? >> Uh the same day we sent our courtesy notice, which was August 16th. >> Okay. And what was um the code violation found on the property?
>> Um 8652. Uh they did work without a permit. >> Okay. Who's the owner of this property and how do you know that? >> Uh through Penllis County Property Appraiser. Uh the owner was MadiRaa
Beach Getaway LLC. >> Okay. I'd like you to turn to page 85. Starting at page 85 of the packet. Is this the printout from the Penllis County Property Appraiser that reflects who the owner is? >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. When the courtesy
notice was sent to the property owner, um I'd like you to turn to page 91. Is this the courtesy notice that was sent to the property owner? >> Yes. >> Okay. And when this courtesy notice was sent, it was sent by regular mail, correct? >> Yes. >> And uh did it set forth a compliance
date of September 1st, 2025? >> Yes. >> And did the property owner bring it into compliance by that date? >> No. Okay. >> Did the city subsequently issue Well, first of all, when that uh courtesy notice of code violation was sent, were there photographs attached to it?
>> Yes. um on 93 and 94 of the packet. >> All right. If you could turn to page 93 and tell us what this photograph depicts. So this is the inside of the property just showing that it's been remodeled.
Work has been done after the storm. Okay. Was this another one of the properties in Madira Beach that was flooded? >> Uh, yes. >> And approximately how much water was in this structure? >> Uh, approximately 3 to 4 feet. >> Okay. And um, how was this picture
obtained? >> Uh, just from the front of the property, from the outside of the property. >> Okay. So, just peering through the window the photograph was taken. >> Yes. >> All right. And when you say that this was remodeled, what exactly in this
photograph is the remodeled portion? >> In this photograph, you can see the drywall, the baseboard, and the um the cabinets at least have all been redone just from what you can see in this picture.
>> Okay. If you could turn to page 94, then there are two photographs there. What does the top photograph reflect? a posted stop work order um from the city and more of the inside with drywall put up.
>> All right. And then the bottom photograph >> uh a door that looks to be newer um or just remodeled. >> All right. So, the property owner did not bring the
property into compliance by the date that was requested. Correct. >> Correct. And so the city issued a notice of code violation. Correct. >> Correct. >> And is that on page 95 of the packet? >> Yes. >> And does it reflect the same cited code section 8652 as being the violation?
>> Yes. >> And does it attach the same photographs that we just reviewed a moment ago? >> Yes. >> And did you send that by regular and certified mail? >> Uh yes. This was sent with regular and certified mail. >> Did the regular mail come back?
>> No. Did the certified mail green card come back? >> Yes. Um, page 99 is the certified mail that was sent and 100 was the return green card with the signature. >> Okay.
Um, did you hear from the property owner after the code violation notice was um, received by >> I personally have not heard from the owner. >> Okay. Has anybody in the city heard from the owner that's been noted? >> I'm not aware. Okay. All right. I'd like
you to turn to page 101. And there's a couple of photographs that follow or at least Yeah. two more photographs. Could you tell us on starting at page 101, what is this photograph of? So, this is a Zillow ad
from prior to the storm, which shows that same room from the courtesy and certified. That shows that it's clearly different. Um, the upper cabinets are
the same, but the lower cabinets are different. Uh, this has changed. Um, just showing that work has obviously been done that's different. >> Okay, please turn to page 102. Looks like
there are three photographs there. >> Yeah, this is just more of the interior and as you can see, work's been done. This is what it used to look like and it clearly looks different now. Okay. And page 103,
>> uh, page 103, uh, is actually from the the homeowner. They applied for an interior demolition permit with the city, and they gave pictures of the property. And this is one of the pictures that shows the uh, some of the
water line in the home and some of the damage to the drywall and the in the baseboard and everything. Okay. >> So, is the property in compliance as of today? >> As of today, no. >> Did the city issue a statement of
violation and request for hearing? >> Yes. >> Can you turn to page 106 of the packet? Is this the statement of violation request for hearing that the city uh prepared? >> Yes. >> And if you could turn to page 104 105. Is this the notice of hearing that the city issued prepared and issued?
>> Yes. Were both of those sent by regular and certified mail to the property owner? >> Yes. >> Uh, was the property also posted with the notice of hearing for today? >> Yes. >> And was city hall posted with a notice of hearing for today? >> Yes. >> All right. I want you to go ahead and
turn to page 108 showing this is an affidavit of service. >> Yes. Is that the affidavit that shows that it's been sent by certified mail, regular mail, posted city hall, and posted at the property? >> Correct. >> When I say that, it meaning the notice of hearing. Correct.
>> Yes. >> Okay. All right. There are a couple more photographs starting at page um 110. Can you tell me what 110 reflects? 110 is just a duplicate of the uh the
stop work order that was posted for work without permit. >> And then 111. >> 111 is the posting at the property >> of the notice of hearing. >> Yes. >> And then what does 112 reflect? Page 112.
>> That's the posting of the notice of hearing at city hall. >> All right. How much time do you think it will take for the property owner to obtain the building permit to bring this property into compliance? >> Uh, it should just take 30 days. >> All right. Is it is the property uh
occupied at this point? >> Uh, I do not believe so. No. >> Okay. Um, what do you think the appropriate fine would be on this property since it's not occupied >> as it's not occupied and not a life health safety issue? Uh, I believe $100
a day. Okay. All right. Thank you. I have no other questions uh for Connor. I would tender into evidence pages uh one I'm sorry 85 through 112 of the packet and ask that they be received into evidence and uh
Mr. Wheeler is here in the audience. He I believe he's the owner. >> All right. Great. Uh first I'll go ahead and accept in evidence as exhibit number one pages 85 through 112 of the agenda package. Connor, remind me how do you spell your last name?
>> M E C K O. >> Just like it sounds. Okay. All right. Uh I understand for Mr. Traassy, owner of Madiraa Beach Getaway LLC is here. All right. Come on forward. >> Good morning. >> Good morning. Uh can you please give me
your full name? >> Yes. Steve Wheeler. Uh owner of 14503 North Bay Shore Drive. >> Give me your first name one more time. Uh, Steve. >> Steve. All right, Mr. Wheeler, I'm going to give you an opportunity in just a moment to tell me anything you want to tell me. Call any witnesses you want to call, show me any documents, but this is
your opportunity to cross-examine Mr. Meccco based upon his testimony. Do you have any questions for him? >> No, I do not. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Anybody else from the city, Mr. Tra? >> No other witnesses. Thank you. >> All right, Mr. Wheeler, tell me what you want to tell me about this violation. >> I think I'm I'm actually just looking for suggestions or maybe help. Um, I
bought this back in September of 2024 with uh about 90% of my retirement. So, it was supposed to be a good investment. Um, three weeks later, Helen hit. Um, I immediately got my two long-term renters that came with the sale notices that it
was uninhabitable. I had to refund them 7,000 bucks. Uh, and um, so and it was uninhabitable. So, uh, I went to my realtor. My realtor gave me a recommendation for a contractor, called the contractor, and then I came down to
Madera Beach uh here, found out what I had to do. So, I put through a permit to uh tear down drywall and such. So, when that was approved, so I thought we were good to go. Contractor started. Um that was about a year ago, and honestly, it's
been somewhat of a nightmare ever since. Uh the contractor doesn't show up. When he does show up, he he's slow. Um, I asked him multiple times about permits and I was told, "Don't worry about it. It's taken care of." I mean, I'm 67
years old. I've never got a permit in my life outside of the tear down here or the um, you know, this to start the work. So, I don't know anything about it. I just trusted the contractor. Um, the minute that I saw that stop work order, I came down here uh, and I was
told what to do. We had to do an after the-act interior remodel permit and I have been trying to get the contractor to complete that ever since. And that's been about two months. Um, this place is costing me about 4,000 bucks a month
between mortgage, taxes, insurance, and utilities. I can't afford 4,000 a month. I I He's tried to do it, I guess, a couple of times, and he's done the permit wrong. He did it as a demo permit. Um, I'm not even sure he's a
contractor. I think he works for a contractor. So, I'm a little bit lost as to what to do. Uh I know what has to be done based upon my multiple visits here to this office, but I mean, does does
the city suggest or give uh I don't know what to do. I'm a little bit lost. >> All right. Uh Mr. Trash, do you have any questions, Mr. Wheeler? Um who was the contractor? Uh, I know his first name. He's a Hispanic
gentleman. I don't know the name of his company. I don't know if he has the name of his company. I believe what he is is he works for a general contractor and he does side work. I think that's what I got kind of caught up in. >> Did you have to pay him by check?
>> Uh, I have paid him by uh zel. >> Okay. And when you sent it by zel, what was the name it was sent to? Uh, J O N John, which is his first name. Um, I I'm sure I have his last name somewhere.
I'd have to search to find it, but I've had um probably hundreds of texts with him over the last two months, multiple phone calls, uh, threats. You don't know his last name then? >> Uh I I don't It's just J O. I don't have
his last name. I can certainly get it. Um >> it would probably be important to the Penelis County Construction Licensing Board. >> Okay. Um Okay. Um so the city is recommending 30 days to obtain the building permit, not
to to finalize any of the work, but just to get the building permit. Do you think that that is a reasonable period of time? I mean, I will go back to him again. Uh, my realtors got involved in trying to meet with him as well to try to help him do it and we haven't been able to get it
done. So, I mean, I all I can do is just go back to the guy, maybe get an attorney, maybe threaten um pursue that direction. Again, I'm a little bit lost as to what to do, but certainly if I can get him or his contractor to do it, 30 days should
be fine. >> All right. Thank you. even though I've been trying for two months. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Wheeler. I don't have any questions. You can have a seat. Are there any members of the public that have any direct knowledge about this code violation that want to
come forward and provide any information? All right. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public comment. Mr. Tras, anything else on this one? just ask that you find the property in violation of the cited code section. Give the property owner 30 days
to come into compliance and if he's not in compliance within that 30 days um set a daily fine of $100 per day since it's unoccupied structure. All right. Based upon the testimony and the information provided, I will go ahead and find the property is in violation based upon the
stated code provision. 30 days appears to be a reasonable time to bring the property in compliance. the compliance is to do what is set forth in the notice and on the record thereafter it'll be a $100 a day fine. Mr. Wheeler, again, I I don't the city can't give you any legal advice, but if you want to sit tight
until the end of the hearing, they can talk to you. I don't know if Mr. Jason Sanchez is still wandering around, but he sounds like he's a contractor, so you may want to talk to him. But uh but anyway, if and if you need more time to comply, sir, you know, please come in and we reserve jurisdiction to hear if
you need more time. So otherwise, there'll be a $100 day fine running on that. Okay, that concludes that case number C25-127. Let's move on to case number 25-131 for the property located at 154 154th
Avenue. Is the city ready to proceed? >> Yes. Go ahead. So, we're going to I'm the fourth different witness today from the city. Okay. So, we're going through all of them. So, um, Holden Pinker is the witness that I would call. Mr. Pinker, if you could state your
occupation, your job responsibilities here at the city. >> Uh, Holden Pinker, the building compliance supervisor, and one of my duties is to issue building code violations. >> You familiar with this property at 154 154th Avenue? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is this a proactive case or was
this complaint driven? >> This was a proactive case. And um when was the first involvement on the case relative to the code violation? >> The first involvement that we had would have been the date that the stop work
order was posted and that the courtesy letter was mailed. Uh August 26th of 2025. >> When the letter was sent, did you determine who the property owner was? >> Yes. Oliva Land and Sand LLC.
>> Okay. And how did you find that out? >> The Penllis County Property Appraiser. >> If you could turn to page starting at page 113 of the packet and take a look at that. Is that the print out from the Penelis County Property Appraiser? >> It is. >> And that's where you got the address from? >> Yes. >> Okay. When you sent the courtesy notice
of violation, what code section did you cite? The code section that was cited was section 86-52 when required, which is when work exceeds $500 or when it needs to be inspected.
>> So, what was done at this property? >> The work going on here was a uh staff identified a construction vehicle outside and a full interior remodel was being done. this picture that is on page 119.
Actually, there's two photographs. Can you explain what these photographs depict? >> The photo on the top of page 119 is a photograph of the stop work order. And the second photograph is a picture of
the property from the street view. >> Was this one of the properties in Madera Beach that was flooded? >> Yes. >> And approximately how much water was inside this home? approximately three feet. >> And how do you know that? >> Uh based on our data from Tidal Basin.
>> And Tidal Basin is what? >> Good question. >> It's a company, correct? >> Yes. >> And it was hired by the city or provided to the city as uh for technical data gathering. >> Right. They it is a emergency disaster
program that helps communities prepare for disasters. Okay. When you um sent this letter, this courtesy notice of code violation on August 26th, did you send that by regular mail? >> Yes. >> Was it sent by certified mail?
>> It was. Yes. >> Both of them. >> Correct. >> Okay. So, was the certified uh did the regular mail come back? >> It did not. >> The certified mail come back? >> No.
>> All right. When did you ask for the property to be brought into compliance? >> The courtesy letter had a follow-up date of September 9th of 2025. >> Was it in compliance by that date? >> No. >> Is it in compliance as of today?
>> As of today? No. >> Okay. Did you issue a notice of code violation then? >> Yes. >> And is that reflected on page 120 of the packet? >> Correct. >> All right. When you sent the uh notice of code violation, did you attach the same photographs?
>> I did. Yes. >> All right. Um I'd like you to turn to page 123 of the packet and explain to us what this starting at page 123 is. this document. >> Page 123 is a copy of the building
permit application that was submitted. And page 124 has the description of work that for the permit after the fact install or installation of new drywall up to 4T. Uh installation of new kitchen, vanities,
baseboard, interior doors, new flooring, all electrical outlets, French doors, and an entry door. And when was this application submitted? >> This was submitted um at the end of September. >> Don't have a specific date, but it was
submitted at the end of September. >> And the purpose of including this document in the packet today is to do what? uh to provide that an extensive amount of work is required to bring the property back to its pre-torrm state.
>> And has that work already been done to the best of your knowledge? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um I'd like you to then turn page to 125 and tell me what that is for. >> This is a copy of the certified mail that was sent of the notice of
violation. >> All right. Since the property is not in compliance as of today, did you issue a statement of violation um in request for a special magistrate hearing? >> Yes. >> Is that reflected on page 128 of the packet? >> Correct.
>> Is the site the same code section 8652 as being the violation? >> It does. >> And did you issue a notice of hearing for today at this time? >> Yes. >> And is that reflected on page 126 of the packet? >> Correct. Do you send these by regular and certified mail? regular and
certified mail. Yes. >> Did either one of those come back? >> No. >> Right. And now let's talk about the affidavit of service. It's reflected on page 130 of the packet. What is this affidavit of service reflect? >> This reflects the notice of hearing
being mailed regular certified that the property was posted and that the uh city hall was also posted. >> And are there uh photographs attached to that? If you could explain first of all what the photograph is on page 132.
>> This the van or the work van the blue water uh construction van is 132 and is that parked out in front of the house where the work was being done? >> Yes. This is the same day the property was posted with the stop work order. So,
it was actually Bluewater Builders that was working on the project without a building permit. >> Correct. >> Is this the same U contractor that was testifying earlier today? >> Yes. >> Okay. If you could turn to page um the next photograph,
page 133, it looks like. And what does this photograph reflect? This is a photograph of the notice of hearing that's posted at the property >> and 130 page 134. What does that photograph reflect? >> This reflects the notice of hearing
being posted here at city hall. >> So as of today there's no building permit, although it's building permit application pending. >> Correct. >> And um is this structure occupied? >> That I I don't believe so. No.
>> Okay. What do you think is the appropriate amount of time to bring the property into compliance? >> 30 days. >> And what do you think the dollar amount of the fine should be if it's not in compliance within 30 days? >> Uh $100 per day because the structure is
not occupied at least to city staff knowledge. >> Okay. Thank you. Have no other questions for Mr. Pinker. I would tender in the evidence pages 113 through 134. The agenda packet asks that they be received into evidence. All right, I'll go ahead
and accept in evidences pages 113 through 134 of the agenda package as exhibit number one. Mr. Pinker, just so I'm aware, the permit has been submitted that would bring them into compliance
that it just hasn't been approved yet. Is that the situation? >> Right. My understanding is um the permanent application was submitted. There have just been a couple things that have needed to be either revised or removed um to be something that we can
approve. >> Okay. All right. U Okay. Is there anyone here on behalf of Aliva Sand Land and Sand LLC? Anybody here on behalf of the owner? All right. Mr. Sanchez, are you standing around somewhere that I can't
see? And Mr. Pinker, do we send off Mr. Sanchez? I just want to make sure he's not like meeting with somebody over there and and misses the hearing today. So, >> no, I explained to him that it would be a similar process as the previous uh case that he was involved in that it
would likely be the 30 days and if he needed additional time, he just would need to reach out to me. >> Okay. No, no problem. No problem. All right. Okay. Are there any members of the public who have knowledge about this code violation that would
like to come forward and uh be heard? Okay, seeing none, we'll close public comment. Mr. Tras, anything else? Just ask that you find the property in violation of the cited code section. Order that the property be brought into compliance within 30 days. And if not in compliance, um establish a fine of $100
a day for every day that the property remains in non-compliance to the cited code section. Okay, I'll go ahead and find based upon the testimony information provided that the property is in violation is set forth in the notice and the owner will have 30 days to take the corrective action set forth in the notice and stated on the record
here today and thereafter be a $100 a day fine. Okay, let's move on to the next case. This is 25-106 for the property located at 533 John's Pass Avenue. Is the city ready to
proceed? >> Yes. I just want to let you know one of the property owners is here in the audience today. Um so the city would call Holden Pinkard. Holden, if again if you could state um your occupation and your job responsibilities here at the city.
>> Holden Pinker, building compliance supervisor, and one of my duties is to issue building code violations. >> Are you familiar with this property located at 533 John's Pass Avenue? >> Yes. Is this a proactive case or was this complaint driven?
>> This was a proactive case. >> And um what was the first um action by the city uh with regard to this code violation case? >> The first action of this case was photographing the new uh mechanical unit
that was installed and following up with a courtesy notice of code violation. >> And what date was that? That was on July 11th of 2025. >> Who's the owner of the property and how do you know that? >> Uh I have a Kim Stacy family revocable
trust and is it Freri? Freri. >> Okay. Um and you determine that by finding that on the Penelis County Property Appraisers website. >> Correct. >> And if you could turn to page 135, is that the printout that you received to determine who the owner is? >> Yes. Okay. When you uh were out there on
July 11th, did you say that you followed up with a courtesy notice of code violation? >> Correct. >> And what was the cited code section? >> Section 86-52. When required, uh when work exceeds $500
or when work needs to be inspected, >> requires a building permit. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um was this uh did you take photographs and attach them to the courtesy notice of violation? >> We did. All right. Can you turn to the page 141 of the agenda packet and tell
me what these two photographs depict? >> The photograph on the top depicts uh the original mechanical unit that was installed on blocks and the photograph below on page 141 shows the new air handler unit um
installed with a metal bracket. >> Okay. And this is the violation. And they needed a building permit to install that new uh HVAC system. >> Correct. >> All right. And when the courtesy notice of violation was sent to the property owner, did you ask them to bring it into
compliance by a specific date? >> Yes. That date was July 25th of 2025. >> Did it come into compliance by that date? >> No. >> Okay. Is it in compliance as of today? >> As of today, no. >> Okay. Did the city issue a notice of code violation?
>> Yes. You can turn to page 142. Is this the notice of code violation that was sent by the city? >> It is. >> All right. And it cited the same code section 8652 as being the violation? >> Yes. >> Did it also attach the same photographs that you had just referred to a moment
ago? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did you send this by regular and certified mail? >> Yes. >> Um, did the regular mail come back to the city? >> Not that I'm aware of. No. >> Okay. Did the certified mail come back to the city? the green card? Not that I'm aware of.
No. >> All right. If you could turn to page um 145 of the packet. Is this the certified mailing envelope that was sent to the property owner on August 5th, 2025? >> It is. Yes.
>> All right. Next in the packet is some information relative to an application for a building permit. If you could turn to page 146 and tell us what this document is. This is a printout from our permitting program um showing that a permit
application was submitted. Uh it looks like the contractor was air 247 LLC and the description of work on page 148 is a HVAC change out. This application
was submitted back in February and that permit was never issued. It stayed an application and then was voided. Why was it never issued? >> Either the Well, it was approved by staff, but the contractor never paid for the permit and the permit was never issued.
>> Okay. So, has the permit expired? >> Uh, no permit was issued for this. The application did uh was voided. >> Okay. Understood. So, the property owner then would have to come in and apply again, pay for the permit, and pick it up. Correct.
>> Correct. And or a licensed contractor. Okay. All right. Did the city issue a statement of violation and request for hearing? >> Yes. >> Turn to page 152. Is this that statement of violation? >> It is. Yes.
>> And again cited the same code section 86-52. >> Correct. >> The city also issue a notice of hearing for today. >> Yes, we did. >> Is that on starting on page 150? Correct. >> And both of these sent by certified regular mail. >> Correct.
>> Okay. Did the city also post the property with the notice of hearing for today? >> Yes. >> And when did that happen? >> The property was posted with the notice of hearing on October 16th. >> And was city hall also posted? >> Yes.
>> All right. There are a couple of photographs at the very end of the packet starting at page 156. Can you tell us what those photographs reflect? 156 is a photograph of the original mechanical unit before the
uh new unit was installed with the uh metal bracket. And then page 157 is a photograph of the posting of the notice of hearing at the property.
And page 158 is a photograph of the notice of hearing posted here at city hall. Okay. And after you did that, did you issue the affidavit of service that is shown on starting at page 154? >> Yes. >> How much time do you think it'll take to
get this building permit issued once it's applied for again? >> 30 days. >> And what do you think the appropriate dollar amount of the fine is if it's not in compliance within that 30 days? >> Would be the $100 per day. >> Okay.
Thank you. I don't have any other questions. I would tender into evidence at this time agenda packet items starting at page 135 and ending at 158. Ask that be received into evidence. All right. I'll go ahead and receive into evidence as exhibit number one,
pages 135 through page 158 of the agenda packet. All right. Is there anyone here the owners here? Anybody here on behalf of the owners? Uh Kim Ferich's Feric or Stacy Ferich. Anybody here on behalf of the owner? All right, come on forward,
sir, and tell me your name, please. >> Stacy FS. >> All right. Uh, sir, it looks like you had a had a a building contractor, AC contractor that just didn't get the permit across the line. So, I'm going to
give you a chance to tell me anything you want to tell me, but do you have any questions for Mr. Pinker based on his testimony? >> Well, I think I will. Um, would you like me to ask that first? >> Sure. So, I'm going to give you a chance to tell me anything you want to tell me. Show me any documents, call any
witnesses, but this is specifically the time in the hearing where you can ask him questions. So, do you have questions for Mr. Pinker? >> I guess I do at this point. Um, I hired 247 Air, very reputable company to to do this job along with another one of my
houses. Um, both at the same time, both told me that they got permits. The other house is fine. this one all of a sudden. You said you got a permit but they never followed through with it. >> Yes.
>> I don't know what's going on. >> So it looks like we this the permit application was submitted back in February and at the time we weren't issuing permits for just
mechanical units only. We needed to know the full scope of work from the damage uh because we didn't want to be issuing smaller permits for things that we didn't know if those things could be put back anyway. It might be a home that had to be demolished and we wouldn't want
you putting in a new unit in a home that you couldn't repair. Um and the it looks like staff sent a um comment to the contractor letting them know that we needed a full remodel permit with that mechanical unit included in that scope
of work. So that's the reason that that that the mechanical unit wasn't permitted at that time. >> Okay. Um a full remodel is not happening on the house.
Um, I'm going through a divorce. I just need a roof over my head with some air conditioning. >> Sure. >> Nothing's been done in the house on the inside. Um, except um my sink is on on saw horses instead of the cabinets it was
on. Um, so just the air conditioner. So that that's what I didn't understand. And then I talked to uh Air247 on Friday and they said they're still trying to get the permit, but somebody at code compliance said that now I need a
general contract. >> It's possible if it's not if if it if the property is under well this is under a trust. >> Yeah. >> Um so my understanding of that is if we would need something that shows you're
either an authorized agent or a member of that trust. >> I am the trust. Yeah. Um or you'd have to hire a licensed contractor to submit like the total remodel project. >> But you already have that set. You have that 24/7 because nothing else has been
done. That is the full scope of work. Um, I just know from the storm permits that I understand what you're saying that nothing has been done, but for us to be
able to issue that permit, we need to know the full scope of work to bring the house back to a pre-torrm state. So, if it's drywall or flooring or trim or doors or whatever it is, we need to know that full scope of work with the air handler included
to make sure that you you're allowed to put everything back. >> Well, in all due respect, >> I'm not going to put it back. Um, lawyers are going back and forth on the the divorce. The house is worth the
land. It's on John's pass, as you know. Duh. Um, so I'm not going to put the house back together. It'll be it'll be sold as is and it'll be tore down like everything else around here. Um, for now I'm just living in it. So I guess I'm
even more confused now for the scope of work just to get the AC permit. I'm not going to have any other work done. So I just need a air conditioning permit. I I understand. I think the best
thing that we can do is maybe set up some time for you to meet with staff to go over what you want to do and what you don't want to do and we can figure out how to get you across the finish line with what you want to do. >> Okay? Because my other my other house right down the road, it got the permit
just fine and it it's just nothing but studs. So, I just don't understand when they're two, three blocks apart what the difference in the two houses is. I think the only one the only reason this one is on our radar or was on our radar is that
it was voided. >> Yeah, that's weird. They they voided it because they're telling me all this other story now. >> Yeah. I can't see right now who voided it,
>> but I do know that's why the permit wasn't issued. >> Okay. So, where do we where do we go from here? Um, according to um the correspondence that I got from y'all
>> was uh needed to have a permit. Um, and from what I understand today, that'll probably be like 30 days, but I'm not understanding how I can even get a permit. Like I said, I think the best thing that we can do is after this is over, I can give you or the hearing total, all the cases are heard, I can give you my card
and we can set up some time to go over it and get you across the finish line. But the last comment that we sent back in looks like March was what I explained like we needed a remodel permit covering all the costs to bring the permit back to its or uh the property back to its
pre-damaged condition. So with pictures and costs and estimates, that's what most are doing that aren't demolishing. >> I understand. >> So >> I understand, but yeah, I'm int different circumstances right now. Um,
okay. So where do we go from here? >> Okay. Any further questions of Mr. Pinker? Have you gotten all your questions out? >> Well, I think I got all my questions out this far. We're going to sit down then and work this out or what? I I would encourage you after we get through the hearing today, just sit in the audience there till we're done. We only have a
few more matters after yours and then you can talk to Mr. Pinker some more and he can get you in touch with the right person. >> Okay. >> All right. Okay. Uh Mr. Tras, anyone else from the city you plan to call? >> I have no other witnesses in this case. >> All right, sir. And this is your opportunity to tell me. Obviously, I've been listening to everything that you
have to say at all, but this is Is there anything else you want to tell me? Any pictures you want to show me? Any other witnesses you'd like to call? >> No, sir. >> All right, Mr. Tras, any questions? I have no questions. Thanks. >> Okay. All right, sir. Have a seat and just sit tight. All right. Are there any members of the
public that have information or knowledge about the code violation at 533 John's Pass Avenue that want to come forward and be heard? Seeing none, we'll close public comment. Mr. Trash, anything else? Just ask that uh the special magistrate find the
property in violation of the cited code section. Uh give Mr. uh give the property owners 30 days to come into compliance. And if it's not in compliance within those 30 days to issue a fine of $100 a day for every day the property remains in violation of the cited code section. >> All right. I'm going to go ahead and find based upon the testimony
information the property is in violation and uh give the owner 30 days to bring the property in compliance or be $100 a day fine thereafter. Again, sir, if you can just wait and hang out, you can talk to Mr. Pinker. And if for whatever reason, you know, I I listened to everything you had to say. I think I
understand the situation is you need a place to live. the properties in a divorce proceeding. You're not going to remodel the home. I I get all of that. So, for for whatever it's worth though, there was an AC that was a unit that was installed by a contractor, but the
permit didn't get issued. Hopefully, that's an easier easy issue to resolve. If not, and there's a problem, please come back and come to another hearing, tell me that you need more time, and we're happy to consider that. Okay? All right. Let's move on to the next hearing
on the agenda and this is for case number 25-105 for the property located at 30 Lynn Way. Is the city ready to proceed? >> Yes. And the city would call um Holden
Pinker as our witness in this case. Um Holden, if you could state your occupation, your job responsibilities here at the city. building compliance supervisor and one of my duties is to issue building code violations. >> You familiar with this property that's
located at 30 Lynn Way? >> Yes. >> Okay. Who's the owner of that property and how do you know that? >> Kappa Corp LLC and the Penllis County Property Appraiser. >> And if you could turn to page 159 of the packet starting there. Is this a
printout from the Penllis County Property Appraiser that reflects um who the owner of the property is? >> Yes. >> All right. Um when was the first um action by the city relative to the code violation case
against this property at 30 L way? >> The first action was the date of the courtesy notice of code violation uh July 7th of 2025. >> What was the violation at this property on that date?
The violation was section 86-52 when required and that is when work exceeds $500 or does not require an inspection. That is when a permit is required. Okay. And what work was done on the property at located at 30 Lynn
Way. The evidence that we have are photographs from Zillow and that would be any repair or remodel work due to the hurricane damage. Uh that would include
the kitchen and bathrooms. And this is a duplex. >> Okay. And and was this one of the properties in Mader Beach that was flooded? >> Yes. >> And approximately how much water was in this structure? >> Approximately 3 to four feet.
Okay. When the courtesy notice of violation was issued, you said that you had these photographs from Zillow. Um, do we have any before pictures or is this just the work that was done after?
This is just the work or the work after, but we do have photographs that aren't included in the packet that show damage from the curb. Just debris piles. >> Okay. Uh, when this letter was sent to the property owner, did it have a compliance date set in it?
>> Yes, that date was July 21st of 2025. >> Did they come into compliance by that date? >> No. >> Is the property in compliance as of today? >> No. >> Did the city issue a notice of code violation? >> Yes. >> You can turn to page 164 of the packet.
Is this uh the notice of code violation? >> Yes. Does the site the same code section as what you had just mentioned a few moments ago 86-52? >> Yes, it does. >> And when this uh notice of code violation was sent, but was it sent by regular and certified mail? >> Correct.
>> Did the regular mail come back to the city? >> Not that I'm aware of. No. >> Did the certified mail come back to the city? >> It did. Uh no, that because there was no mailbox. >> Okay. When you sent this notice of code violation, did you attach the same
photographs that you attached um to the courtesy notice? >> Yes. >> You turn to page 166. These are the same photographs that were attached. >> Correct. >> All right. All right. So, the um certified mailing
came back to the city and what does it reflect there? >> Return to sender, no mail receptacle, unable to forward. >> Okay. So, but it was not sent to the property that was damaged this on 30 L way. This was actually sent to the address listed
in the property appraisers website. Correct. >> Correct. >> All right. Um, did the city then follow up and issue a statement of violation request for hearing? >> It did. Yes. >> If you could turn to page 71 of the packet. Is this the statement of violation request for hearing? >> It is.
>> Did the city also issue a notice of hearing today? >> Yes. And is that reflected on page 169? >> Yes. >> And did that site the same code section 86-52? >> Yes, it does. >> Okay. Um, did the city uh post the property
>> with the notice of hearing? >> Yes, we did. >> What date was that done? >> That was posted on October 16th. >> Did the city also post city hall? >> Yes. >> With a notice of hearing. >> Correct. and is could you turn to page
175 and tell us what this photograph depicts? >> This is a photograph of the notice of hearing posted at the property. >> And the next photograph, >> the next is a photograph of the notice
of hearing posted here at city hall. >> Okay. And did you issue an affidavit of service reflecting that the notice of hearing was sent by regular mail, certified mail, and posted at the two properties? >> Yes. >> Okay. And is that reflected starting at page 173? >> Correct.
>> All right. How much time do you think it'll take to bring this property into compliance? >> 30 days. >> What does the property owner need to do to bring it into compliance? >> In order to comply, they will need to apply for and obtain an after an after
the fact building permit. >> Okay. And if it's not in compliance within the 30 days, what do you think the appropriate dollar amount of fine should be um for each day the property remains in violation? >> Would be the $250 per day. >> Okay. And why do you believe it should
be $250 a day? >> Because city staff was not able to inspect the work that was done after the storm. >> All right. I don't have any other questions for Mr. Pinker. I would tender in evidence pages 159 through
76 it looks like of the agenda packet. >> All right, I'll go ahead and accept an evidence as exhibit number one, pages 159 through 176 of the agenda package. All right, is there anybody here on behalf of the owner? Kappa LLC. Anyone?
Anyone here on behalf of the owner of the property located at 30 Lenway, MadiRaa Beach, Florida? All right, seeing Nobody. Let's move on. Well, actually, Mr. Tras, anything else
from the city? >> No. >> All right, let's move on to public comment. There any members of the public that have information about the code violation at 30 Len Way for case number 25-105? None. All right, Mr. Tr, anything else on this
one? >> No, thank you. >> All right. based upon the information and the testimony provided by Mr. Pinker to find there is a violation. 30 days is a reasonable time to correct the violation for the matter in in the ways set forth in the notice of hearing and
also on the record today. Uh after that, there'll be a $250 day fine for the violation. All right, let's move on to case number CE-25-129. This is for the property located at 101107
154th Avenue and 15398 2nd Street East. Is the city ready to proceed? >> Yes, we are. >> Go ahead, Mr. Dask. >> We call Holden Pinker. Holden, if you could state your occupation, your job responsibilities here at the city. >> Building compliance supervisor and one
of my duties is to issue building code violations. you familiar with this property that has two addresses on it? >> Yes. >> Okay. Why does it have two addresses? >> Uh there are multiple structures um on different parcels that have different
addresses. >> Okay. It's is it one parcel with different structures on the same parcel? >> I'm sorry. That's correct. So there's multiple structures on one parcel. >> Okay. Um, I'd like you to turn to page
177 of the agenda packet and um, this is a print out from the Penllis County Property Appraisers Office. Correct. >> Correct. >> And and and it's reflecting the property that's in question today. >> Yes. >> And who is the owner of that property? >> Uh, Ocean Enterprise LLC.
>> Okay. And is does it depict a photograph, aerial photograph of the property showing a number of structures on it? >> Yes. Uh in red you can see the aerial view and then here highlighted in blue the number of buildings three.
Okay. Thank you. Um is this a complaint based violation or is this proactive? >> This was proactive. >> And uh what was the violation on the property?
work without a permit. Uh specifically the hurricane remodel and new mini splits, windows, exterior doors, drywall, etc. >> Okay. Did the city issue a courtesy notice of code violation? >> Yes.
>> You could turn to page 181 of the packet. Is this the courtesy notice you the city sent? >> Yes. >> Did it Did it site a particular code section? >> Yes. Section 86-52 when required, which is when a building
permit is required, when it exceeds $500 or when it requires an inspection. >> Okay. Did you attach to that courtesy notice uh a photograph of the property? >> Yes. >> You turn to page 183. There are two photographs. If you could tell us what
each of these photographs depict. >> The top photograph is a Google Earth shot of before the storm. And below on page 183, uh you can see the two doors have been
replaced. Um the difference being the windows in the doors. It looks like there are three doors there that are different. Correct. And um what else? What else does the bottom photograph show?
the mini splits as well that are above the uh front porch area overhang. >> Can you explain to special magistrate what a mini split is? >> Uh a type of air conditioning system. >> Okay. And were there
windows replaced in this photograph too? It's like bottom right. Correct. All right. When this courtesy notice of violation went out, did it require the property to come into
compliance by a date certain? >> Yes, that date was September 9th of 2025. >> Did it come into compliance by that date? >> No. >> Is it in compliance as of today? >> As of today, no. Did >> the city issue a notice of code violation? >> Yes.
>> You turn to page 184 of the packet. Is this the notice that was sent? Yes, it is. >> What was the date? >> That date was September 9th of 2025. >> And it did it site the same code section again? >> Yes, it did. >> Was this sent by regular mail and certified mail?
>> The notice of code violation? Yes. >> Okay. Did you re did the city receive back the original uh the regular mail that was sent? >> The regular mail? Not that I'm aware of? No. >> And what about the certified mail? Did it come back to the city?
>> Not that I'm aware of. No. Okay. Did the city issue a statement of violation and request for this special mastery hearing? >> Yes, we did. >> You could turn to page 190 of the packet. Is that a copy of this statement of violation request for hearing? >> Yes. >> And then did the city issue the notice
of hearing on page starting at page 188? >> Correct. >> Okay. And were these sent by regular and certified mail as well? >> Yes. Um, was the city was the property um posted with the notice of hearing for today? >> Yes, it was.
>> What date was that done? >> That was done on October 16th. >> Okay. Was it also posted at city hall? >> Yes. >> Okay. If you could turn to page um 194 and 195 can explain to the special magistrate what these photographs
depict. Page 194 is a photograph of the notice of hearing posted at the property and page 195 is a photograph of the notice of hearing posted here at city hall. >> And did you issue an affidavit of
service reflecting those uh different postings and mailings? >> Yes. >> And is that on page 192 of the packet? >> Correct. >> All right. So, um, how much time do you think it would be appropriate for the property owner to bring the property into
compliance to get the building permit? Uh, 30 days. And what type of dollar amount of fine would it be should the property not be brought into compliance within 30 days? >> The 250 per day.
>> And why are you asking for $250 per day? >> Uh, city staff hasn't had the ability to inspect the work that was done. and our understanding is that the property is occupied. >> All right. Thank you. I have no other um questions of Mr. Pinker. I would tender
into evidence pages 177 through 195 of the packet and ask that they be received into evidence. All right, I'll go ahead and receive evidence is exhibit number one, pages 17 of the agenda packet through 195. All right. Is there anyone here on behalf of Ocean
Enterprise LLC? Anyone here on behalf of the owner? Anyone here on behalf of the owner for the property located at 101 or 107th 154th Avenue or 15398
2nd Street East? All right. Nobody has appeared. Okay. Mr. Trash, any other witnesses on behalf of the city? >> No. Thank you. >> We'll go ahead and open up public comment. Are there any members of the public that would like to come forward and provide any information at this
hearing in regard to the violation at 101107 154th Avenue or 15398 2nd Street East? >> Okay, seeing none, Mr. TR, anything else? >> No, thank you. >> All right. Based upon the testimony provided in the documents submitted into
evidence, I find that the property is in violation is set forth in the notice. The landowner will have uh 30 days to bring the property in compliance to do the things set forth on the record and in the notice. Thereafter will be a $250 a day fine. >> Thank you.
>> All right. Now, let's move on to old business. The first one is an affidavit of compliance for case number 2022 3444. And this is for the property located at
431 Virginia Avenue. Is the city ready to proceed? >> Yes, we are. Go ahead, Mr. Dask. >> Um, so I would call Holden Pinker on these next couple of cases real quickly. Um, Mr. Pinker, um, your occupation, your
job responsibilities here at the city, >> building compliance supervisor, and one of my duties is to issue building code violations. >> Are you familiar with this property located at 431 Virginia Avenue? >> Yes. >> Okay. And is the city um requesting that
the special magistrate find the property in compliance with the code violations that have been in place for a number of years? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did you issue a um affidavit of compliance on this case then? >> Yes, I did. >> Okay. If you could turn to page 2011 of the packet.
Is this the affidavit of compliance that you prepared? >> Yes, it is. >> So, the property was in compliance as of November 4th, 2024. >> Correct. So, this has been in compliance a number of ye at least a year then. Correct.
>> I'm sorry. Uh, November 4th of 2025. >> Okay. So, your affidavit says 2024. It's actually 2025. We haven't even gotten to November 4th, 2025. What was the actual compliance date?
>> I'm sorry. It is 2024. Okay. >> Just want to make sure we get it right. Okay. But it is in compliance as of nove November 4th, 2024 according to your affidavit. You're asked in the special magistrate to find it in compliance as of that date. Correct?
>> Yes. >> Did you issue a notice of hearing for today's hearing? >> Yes. >> And is that shown on page 196 of the packet? >> Yes. >> And did you also issue an affidavit of service um showing that the notice of hearing was sent by regular mail
certified mail posted at the property and posted at city hall? Correct. >> Okay. And is that affidavit of service reflected starting at page 199? >> Yes. >> You can turn to page 202.
Tell us what this photograph depicts. >> That is a posting of the affidavit of compliance hearing posted at the property. And 203 is a post or a photograph of the posting of the affidavit of compliance hearing here at city hall. >> All right. Thank you. Have no other
questions for Mr. Pinker. Would ask that the affidavit of compliance be received. They asked that the code enforcement special matter right the property in compliance. It was actually a non-compliance for 797
days. The fine amount was a $100 a day. The outstanding fine is $79,700. >> All right. Thank you. Is there anyone here? Is Mr. Mr. or Mrs. Nazerie Ivanchchuk
here? Anybody on behalf of the owner of the property at 431 Virginia Avenue here today? All right. Okay, Miss Tras. So, I'll go ahead and enter an order finding the property in compliance. Just want to make sure I've
got the date right. November 4th, 2024. >> Correct. and then certifying a lean in the amount of $79,700. Correct. >> Correct. >> All right. I'll go ahead and enter that order. Let's go on to the next case, which is C24-233
for the property located at 703 Sunset Cove. The city ready to proceed? >> Yes. I'd call Holden Pinker. Uh Holden, your occupation, your job responsibilities here at the city, please. building compliance supervisor and one of my duties is to issue building code violations. >> Are you familiar with this property
located at 703 Sunset Cove? >> Yes. >> Um, are you asking the special magistrate to find the property into compliance? >> I am. >> Okay. Did you issue an affidavit of compliance in this case? >> I did. Yes. >> Turn to page 209 of the packet.
This affidavit of compliance was signed by you. It provides that the property was in compliance as of October 2nd, 2025. Correct. >> Correct. >> Did you issue a notice of hearing for today's hearing? >> I did. >> Um, and did you post that? Well, did you send that by certified mail and regular mail?
>> Yes. >> And did you also post it at the property at city hall? >> Correct. >> And is that reflected in the notice of hearing starting at page 204 and the affidate of service starting at page 207? >> Yes. >> Okay. I don't have any other questions of Mr.
Pinker. Ask that you find the property in compliance as of October 2nd, 2025. The property was in violation for 88 days from July 7th, 2025 to October 2nd,
2025. The fine amount was $100 a day. Therefore, the total fine is $8,800. All right. Is Kent Richard Baker or Deborah Anne
Culie here or anyone on behalf of the property owner at 709 or 7, excuse me, 703 Sunset Code? Okay. Seeing none, based upon the testimony, I'll go ahead and enter an order that the property was in compliance as of October 2nd, 2025 and
certifying a lean of $8,800. Okay. The next case is another affidavit of compliance for the property or case number 25-87 and this is for the property located60 140th Avenue East. City ready to
proceed. >> Yes. The city would call Holden Pinker. Holden, if you could state your occupation, your job responsibilities here at the city, please. >> Building compliance supervisor, and one of my duties is to issue building code violations. >> Is this case before the special
magistrate to ask the special magistrate to find the property in compliance? >> Yes. >> Did you issue an affidavit of compliance? >> I did. >> Did you turn to page 217 of the packet? >> Is this your affidavit of compliance? >> It is. Yes. >> And so the property was in compliance as of August 13, 2025.
>> Correct. Did you also issue a notice of hearing uh uh for this matter to come before the special magistrate today? >> Yes. >> Did you send it by certified and regular mail? >> Yes. >> Did you also post the property and post city hall with the notice? >> Yes, I did. >> Okay. If you could turn to page 212, is
that the notice of hearing that you had prepared for today? >> Yes. >> If you could turn to page 215, is that the affidavit of service showing how the notice was actually served? >> Correct. >> Okay. Uh lastly, there are two photographs in the packet, pages 218 and 219. Can you tell us what those
photographs depict? >> Uh the photograph on 218 is a photo of the notice of hearing posted at the property and 219 is a photo of the notice of hearing posted here at city hall. >> All right. If you could turn back to page 218, the photograph.
So, um, up in the upper right hand corner, it's showing the property address of 14,000 Vivian Avenue and on the building it shows 160 as in 160 148 40th Avenue East. What is the
reason that there's a different address in the upper right hand corner of the photograph? The timestamp software that we use to take our photograph sometimes grabs the wrong address. And I think before this new construction was built, that was the previous address.
>> Okay. But it was it it was actually posted at 160 148th Avenue East. Correct. >> Correct. >> All right. I have no other questions. Uh would bring to your attention that the compliance date was November 6th,
2025. So the property did come into compliance timely and there is no fine on this property. >> All right. Good for the owners. All right. Are there is Mr. Ryan Dyer or Heather Mard here today?
Okay. Uh based upon the testimony and the information, I'll find the properties in compliance as of August 13, 2025, which is before the compliance deadline. Therefore, there are zero fines accured on that property. All right. The last one I have for today is
C25-71. And this is for the property located at 14060 Myiramar Avenue. DNR Realy and Estates LLC is the owner and this is a request for additional time to come into
compliance. Go ahead, Mr. Tras. >> Well, it's a property owner's request. >> Okay. Are the are the property owners here? Anybody here on behalf of DNR Realy and Estates LLC? All right. We can both come forward and I don't know if one or both of you want to speak but
whoever speaks I just need your name. >> Hello. My name is Syria Rahan. >> All right. Spell that for me. First and last name. >> S U R Y A. The last name is R A L H an >> R A L. >> H an A. >> Okay. All right. And I understand you're
requesting additional time to bring the property in compliance. So what is it you'd like to tell me as to why you need more time? Um, before I do that, could I just hand you a couple? >> Sure. I just showing them Mr. Tras first. >> And while Mr. Tr is looking at. Can you
just tell me your relationship to the LLC, your role or your title with property? >> Uh, sure. I'm just uh here representing my brother. Okay. This is my brother's property and his LLC. >> Gotcha. No problem. >> And this is my mom. >> I'm going to call you the owner's representative. How's that sound? >> Sounds fun.
>> Okay, great. All right, sir. And we may be able to do this by agreement. So, let me just ask you first. How much more time are you asking for today? >> Uh, sir, we're just asking for a 60-day extension. All right, Mr. Tras. Uh, do
you have any objection to that 60-day request? >> The city objects to any extension request. This is the third extension request that the property owner has made. Um, the original compliance date was June 11th. Then they asked for a 60-day extension
till uh September the 6th. When that expired, they came back and asked again for an additional 30 days to extend it until October the 11th. So far, they've been given 90 extra days to bring this property into compliance in addition to
the compliance time frame that was given to them and the original order that was entered on July 11th. So, the city objects to any further extensions on this one. >> All right, sir. go ahead and explain to me why I should give a third extension
on this one here. >> Okay, sir. So, just to reiterate, I am Sir Rahan and this is my mother Number Rahan where we're representing my brother uh and her son Drew Rahan who is the sole owner of DNR Estates LLC and 14006
Miramar Avenue here in Madura Beach. Um he's also watching this session live I believe. Um, so over the last three months, we've worked in good faith to bring this property into full compliance. After our original general contractor had to step away due to
extended overseas travel, we we retained Caress RPO of MSR construction and management on September 10th, which the contract I have attached and given to you to take over the ATF permit. Um, Caress submitted the completed pack
permit packet on October 8th. Since then, the submitt has been rejected twice, but the rejections have been peacemeal. Each round reveals new items that were not listed before. Um, we are not asking for any kind of leeway or leniency on compliance. We are just
trying to meet the city's requirements. Our challenge has always just been predictability. The fragmented feedback that we've received has caused delays and it's also risking our relationship with our current contractors and our subcontractors who need clear and stable direction. Um,
as I've also submitted, we have our subcontracts with the electric and plumbing companies as well. So, our request here is twofold. Um, first of all, we would just like a 60-day extension uh to allow us to obtain the PCPAO split appraisals and to finalize
all the corrections. And our second request is a is a one consolidate corrections memo coming uh from the building compliance supervisor with all the required items across all disciplines with the necessary code references so that we can address
everything in one shot and avoid further delays. Um I would like to say that we've been responsive. We've submitted things uh quickly and we've committed to get this right. Um, I believe like a single comprehensive list will save the city more time, will save me and my
brother a lot of time. It'll reduce repeated reviews uh and ensure that our resubmitt gets hopefully uh completed and processed uh correctly. Thank you. >> All right. Go ahead, ma'am. And then give me your name as well for the
record. >> I'm Namrada Ralhan. >> Can you spell that uh first name for me? N A M R A T A and last name is Rahan R L H N. >> Okay. What would you like to share with me about this request? Uh we just uh
requesting a extension because this has been happening like we are being we are trying to get this work done because this property was uh my property he bought for us like for his parents and grandparents so that they we can come
and enjoy the city and you know the good environment taking care of all the safety safeguards. He's trying to do all he could and trying to get the property back on in a timely manner. But if you
do not give him uh a list of uh whatever is needed to be done on a time in within in the list. uh it becomes difficult for us because once he gives submit something then then it gets rejected and
then he has to give another one something again. So this on 23rd of uh October he got this thing that letter which says that he has to provide something different which is about the
two property thing which I'm not I'm cannot I mean I'm >> what she's referring to is like our at at first this was being treated as like a single property and now because of October 3rd this is being treated as two separate um permit packets. So that obviously requires us a little bit more
time. At first we were following that that line of you know work on on a single permit and now we're being asked to submit two different permits. >> So I mean uh it's very stressful uh since you know the mother parents are always stressed when the children are
trying to do something and then it's not moving moving on. We are trying to uh move on and we want to get this done as soon as possible. We so we just need your support and your help that way we can you know do it in a timely manner
and if you can just provide us this extension we really appreciate thank you we you for your cooperation and support all the time Mr. Holden that you have provided us those extensions. One more time, please. Just a request. That's
all. >> All right. Thank you. Anything else you'd like to share with me? >> Uh, nope. That's about it. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Tras. I'll give you the last word. So um it's obvious even from the chronology of events that the first two months after
um they were supposed to come into compliance, their contractor was not doing anything according to their own chronology of events. Um, and I take exception to the fact that these people who have
done this remodeling work to this home without getting a building permit is now a problem or an issue uh because the city is not being cooperative um in the review of their incomplete uh plans that
they have provided. So um they've been given 90 additional days. So, that's a total of 120 days to get a building permit. Um, and as you've already ruled today on five or six different cases
that 30 days is an appropriate period of time to come into compliance just to obtain a building permit. They've been given 120 so far. So, the city objects to any further extensions. I have nothing else. >> All right. All right. Well, certainly it looks like
you guys are making progress. That's a good thing. Obviously, it's been a long time since I did enter my order and it is an issue because the, you know, work was already done and we're applying for an after the-act building permit. But I'm going to give you a little bit more time. I'm going give you 15 more days. So, I would encourage you to talk to
your contractor. Tell your contractor you need to have this permit wrapped up and the submission completed within 15 days. I'm not going to I don't have the jurisdiction to order the city to do anything or to provide you with documents. I'm sure they'll timely review the permit. So, I'm going to give
you another 15 days, but you know, this work needs to the permit needs to get finalized and submitted. So, I'll send an order granting you 15 more days. >> Well, we appreciate it, sir. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Tras. Is there anything else before me today? >> I just want to make sure I understand when the 15 days is going to run because
if it was 15 days from the compliance date, that would be October the 26th, which was yesterday. So, is it 15 days from today, from the date of this hearing? Let's do 15 days from the 26. So, what day of the week is that? Can somebody look at their calendar? And I just want to make sure it falls on a
week day and I'll put a specific day in my order. >> 15 days from October 26th. That would be um November the 8th, which is a Saturday. >> All right. I think I'm going to make it I'm going to make it November 7th, 2025
will be the compliance deadline. >> All right. Thank you very much. That concludes that hearing. All right, Mr. Tras. Anything else before me today? >> No, that's it. Thank you. >> All right. And again, I encourage you if you want to sit here today, we're wrapping up the hearing and so you can go ahead and talk to the city.
>> So, I'm working. Okay. >> I mean that this is a penalis county now. Penalis county is it is going to take time some time to give those permits. Sir please consider this. We are trying to get this done.
>> Sir please I tell you what I I've made my ruling. I'm going to stick by that ruling. If however you come back to me 30 days from now at the next hearing and it's a hold up with Penllis County and that's the only holdup, I'll certainly hear whatever argument you have to make at that point in time. But based on the
testimony I've heard today, it sounds like the city can process his permit if it's given everything within 15 days. But again, I'm here every month. You can come back before me again if you need more time. Okay. >> All right. Thank you very much. All right. That concludes today's hearing. Thank you very much.